[00:08] <F41l> Well, figured out the issue.
[00:08] <F41l> Clovertail Atom
[00:08] <F41l> no support in the linux kernel whatsoever.
[00:08] <F41l> thanks to intel.
[00:09] <F41l> So I managed to get the USB stick to boot and try to load Elilo, but when it hit the kernel, it just sits there.
[02:43] <roasted> hello friends
[05:00] <DarthFrog> http://www.datamation.com/open-source/ubuntu-vs.-kubuntu.html
[07:10] <randomlurker> shadeslayer: ping
[07:27] <randomlurker> How do I disable my graphics card? My laptop has two graphics cards
[08:26] <n8w> hey,how do i completely switch from openjdk to sun java?update-java-alternatives -l doesnt offer any other java, even though its installed. here is the output of update-alternatives : http://pastebin.com/2LaLV6d4
[11:16] <fractaline> anyone have any tips on getting visualizations on amarok?   i've installed projectm-libvisual but can't see any options in tools.
[11:41] <ss_haze> MichaelP, it's exactly the same kde, just because you get system you know working with like ubuntu
[11:42] <ss_haze> also if you take something like SUSE it has different tools for installing packages etc
[11:42] <yossarianuk> Suse has crap tools to get packages.
[11:43] <[Raiden]> zypper\yast not bad
[11:43] <ss_haze> learning curve for every distro is similar
[11:44] <ss_haze> except, you don't get as huge community as ubuntu, kubuntu is
[11:44] <yossarianuk> ss_haze:  a-hem - Gentoo
[11:45] <ss_haze> lol
[11:46] <ss_haze> arch also has installing process that is inevitable + it's bleeding edge (I don't believe in beta, alpha stages)
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:50] <fractaline> hi there
[12:50] <BluesKaj> who's there ?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> :)
[12:51] <fractaline> :)   you
[12:51] <BluesKaj> and you
[12:51] <fractaline> indeed
[12:54] <fractaline> so i just did an apt-get update which seemed to include lots of kde stuff   and upon reboot i've lost desktop effects.. the opengl compositing has crashed and won't start up
[12:55] <yossarianuk> fractaline: I would go to console and make sure you have all packages needed in the update
[12:55] <yossarianuk> i.e
[12:55] <yossarianuk> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:56] <yossarianuk> what GPU do you have
[12:56] <fractaline> i've done dist-update as well
[12:56] <fractaline> nothing there
[12:56] <yossarianuk> if you do it now are there no packages ?
[12:56] <yossarianuk> ah ok
[12:56] <yossarianuk> do you have nvidia ?
[12:56] <fractaline> um..  gpu   intel
[12:57] <BluesKaj> fractaline, have you tried raster rather than native in the Qt graphics ?
[12:57] <yossarianuk> you could try to clear out .kde temporarly
[12:58] <yossarianuk> i.e stop lightdm
[12:58] <yossarianuk> go to console
[12:58] <yossarianuk> mv .kde .kde-old
[12:58] <yossarianuk> restart lightdm
[12:58] <yossarianuk> Just to see if that works.
[12:59] <yossarianuk> (you can move it back after)
[12:59] <fractaline> BluesKaj,  i've been using raster all along
[12:59] <fractaline> i could log on as guest as well no?  to check kde?
[13:01] <yossarianuk> yes or as another user I guess.
[13:01] <yossarianuk> i.e create a temp user
[13:05] <BluesKaj> I've been using the Qt graphics system backend , works well . Check the repos . It might work for you and it places an option in system settings , besides the one in desktop effects
[13:11] <fractaline> brb
[13:58] <fractaline> ok, i'm in trouble... now i have almost no plasma or kwin... i have a black screen.   i have this window and chrome as they were the last ones open when i rebooted.  i can  use krunner but it's not successfully opening anything.   i can't open terminal with hotkey either..
[13:59] <fractaline> yikes...
[14:00] <BluesKaj> what did you do before this ?
[14:02] <fractaline> installed the qt graphics system backend config.  switched to x11  then switched back
[14:04] <BluesKaj> can you open system settings , the Qt graphics system should be there beside startup&shutdown
[14:05] <BluesKaj> choose raster or whatever works
[14:06] <fractaline> i can't.. from krunner it starts to open but fails
[14:15] <BluesKaj> use kdesudo systemsettings , fractaline
[14:17] <fractaline> no love
[14:23] <fractaline>  BluesKaj any other ideas?     i got no clue what to do next
[14:23] <fractaline> short of reinstalling the os
[15:00] <amichair_> In Skype the incoming and self video blocks are rendered black (webcam works ok), on a laptop with integrated intel graphics, Kubuntu 13.04, skype 4.2.0.11). In Kopete the self video works ok. What's wrong?
[15:15] <infrid> hi
[15:25] <BluesKaj> fractaline, getting anywhere ?
[15:27] <amichair> skype video problem solved by a restart. Just like the good ol' Windows days.
[15:30] <yossarianuk> Skype is owned by Microsoft - what do you expect
[15:32] <yossarianuk> if you have an issue any this time before rebooting do
[15:32] <yossarianuk> sudo lsof |grep -i skype
[15:52] <hans_> hi guys
[15:53] <lordievader> Hey hans_
[15:53] <hans_> hi
[15:53] <hans_> Changing the attributes of files is not supported with protocol mtp.
[15:54] <hans_> thats the problem
[15:54] <hans_> kan de toegangs rechten niet veranderen
[16:41] <hans____> hello every one
[16:41] <hans____> i have a problem
[16:41] <yossarianuk> which is ?
[16:48] <genii> hans____: If you describe the problem, someone may assist
[17:01] <hans_> Changing the attributes of files is not supported with protocol mtp
[17:01] <hans_> thats the problem
[17:03] <hans___> cant change acces right of my sd from my phone and hdd of my media centre
[17:19] <sean__> has anyone installed kdm in kubuntu 13.04 ?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> sean__, there's no reason to that i can think of
[17:20] <sean__> i only want to do that as kdm has more themes than lightdm
[19:16] <stack3457_> Hey , I want to know how can I compile framework5/plasma2 ?
[19:31] <BlaXpirit> Linux makes me cry sometimes :'(
[19:32] <BlaXpirit> No way to make a mouse button do some custom action
[19:32] <BlaXpirit> I have been searching for such a long time...
[19:36] <BlaXpirit> imwheel would be a good option
[19:36] <BlaXpirit> but NOPE, the author decides to not support middle mouse button
[19:40] <[Raiden]> try  xbindkeys
[19:40] <[Raiden]> may be its work
[19:42] <[Raiden]> and a very long time since I've seen btnx
[20:23] <MichaelP> I take it kubuntu and Ubuntu don't use the same server for there web forums ?
[20:26] <BlaXpirit> yeah
[20:26] <BlaXpirit> on Kubuntu forums I'm blocked because I have a dynamic IP
[20:26] <BluesKaj> yeah MichaelP , afaik http://www.kubuntuforums.net/content.php hasn't been compromised
[20:26] <BlaXpirit> they just blocked the whole range of my ISP
[20:27] <MichaelP> Ubuntu forums got attacked
[20:27] <BlaXpirit> :D
[20:27] <BlaXpirit> "Please either 1. Stop the bad behavior, or 2. Cease accessing this system."
[20:27] <BlaXpirit> just awesome
[20:27] <MichaelP> Unfortunately the attackers have gotten every user's local username, password, and email address from the Ubuntu Forums database.
[20:28] <MichaelP> lol
[20:28] <BlaXpirit> no forums for me at all :>
[20:29] <BlaXpirit> well i'm not afraid of them getting my email
[20:29] <MichaelP> BlaXpirit: get on a router.. then your ip addy is what the router gives ya
[20:29] <BlaXpirit> a bit more work for the spam filter
[20:29] <BlaXpirit> what-what, MichaelP?
[20:30] <MichaelP> you said Kubuntu forums I'm blocked because I have a dynamic IP
[20:30] <BlaXpirit> my whole ISP is blocked, ok?
[20:30] <pepee> does anyone knows what's wrong with k3b in raring?
[20:30] <MichaelP> ohh
[20:31] <BlaXpirit> pepee, haven't used it in a long time... worked nicely the last time i did
[20:31] <MichaelP> Don't know i useing 13.10 alpha 1 right now
[20:31] <pepee> I've lost a bunch of DVDs, burned and "verified" by k3b...
[20:32] <MichaelP> Find them then
[20:32] <BlaXpirit> D:
[20:33] <BlaXpirit> oh these discs are funny things
[20:33] <BlaXpirit> the problem can be on so many levels
[20:33] <genii> pepee: Do they read OK on the DVD drive which created them but nowhere else?
[20:33] <BlaXpirit> can be bad discs, bad drive, bad k3b
[20:33] <pepee> so, is there anything I can do to check what's wrong?
[20:33] <MichaelP> Yep.. I thought burning program was screwed up one time.. here a was a batch of bad dist
[20:34] <pepee> genii, no, not even this drive, I think it's a software thing
[20:34] <MichaelP> i had a 100 count 40 of them was bad
[20:34] <pepee> BlaXpirit, these were just fine
[20:35] <pepee> I'm pretty sure this is a software thing...
[20:35] <pepee> but again, why doesn't k3b show any errors when verifying?
[20:36] <pepee> anyway, again, what can I do to check this?
[20:36] <genii> pepee: Are these all different DVD images or one that you keep trying to write over and over again?
[20:37] <pepee> genii, I've tried different configurations, images, etc
[20:37] <MichaelP> What are you trying to burn?
[20:37] <pepee> a bunch of files
[20:37] <pepee> windows xp drivers
[20:37] <pepee> LOTS of files
[20:38] <pepee> I'll try recording manually...
[20:38] <MichaelP> Guess get a usb stick
[20:39] <pepee> you are not a good linux user
[20:39] <pepee> you shouldn't be searching for alternatives, but trying to help and fixing things
[20:39] <BlaXpirit> well, pepee, have you tried other burning software?
[20:39] <pepee> no BlaXpirit
[20:40] <BlaXpirit> that way you can be more sure where the problem is
[20:40] <MichaelP> It could be just a bath of bad dvd's.. i had a 100 count befor and 40 of them was bad
[20:40] <BlaXpirit> or just use that other software if it works properly..
[20:40] <pepee> and keep wasting time
[20:40] <BlaXpirit> what
[20:41] <MichaelP> try brasero
[20:46] <pepee> this is the log from k3b: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5908912/
[20:53] <pepee> what is wodim? ffs
[20:56] <[Raiden]> wodim is cdrecord
[20:57] <[Raiden]> in debian-based distros
[20:58] <BlaXpirit> man wodim
[20:59] <Guest6937> hi
[20:59] <Guest6937> i want to install fir fox
[21:04] <BlaXpirit> D:
[21:04] <pepee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1106855
[21:05] <pepee> seriously...
[21:20] <pepee> that was it
[21:20] <pepee> add-apt-repository ppa:brandonsnider/cdrtools && apt-get install cdrecord mkisofs
[21:23] <pepee> this is really sad. from the bug report, according to this:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html , distros are shipping buggy, outdated versions of the software...
[21:27] <BlaXpirit> yayy linux
[21:27] <pepee> isn't it cool?
[21:34] <BlaXpirit> it is
[21:34] <BlaXpirit> i'm so tired of it T_T
[21:53] <BluesKaj> couldn't reach brandon's ppa , packages not found , pepee
[21:54] <pepee> BluesKaj,  https://launchpad.net/~brandonsnider/+archive/cdrtools
[21:57] <BluesKaj> thanks pepee
[21:57] <pepee> yw
[22:20] <mr-rich> No decent twitter client for KDE .... pitty
[22:23] <genii> Could just use btlbee and funnel it to the irc client of your choice
[23:40] <GiGaHuRtZ> lovely ubuntu forums was compromised....
[23:40] <GiGaHuRtZ> You would thyink thyey might using a opoen source solutiuonj rather than vbullletin or saimilar with all these 0days..
[23:52] <MichaelP> Is there away to make apt-get install packages faster.. I remember about 5 distros ago useing a command or something. That made it not go thru so much on installing