[00:14] <vale_> phillw installing 12.04 worked :D
[00:14] <vale_> I just wonder why the heck wasn't 13.04 working
[00:15] <vale_> anyhow, thank you for the hint, I would had never thought about it
[00:15] <phillw> vale_: excellent, now take your life in your hands and follow the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware
[00:16] <phillw> as it says, if you do not know ho to update the table... ask!
[00:16] <phillw> *how*
[00:17] <vale_> even if I have 12.04 installed would it be valid?
[00:17] <phillw> by the way, to paste into a terminal, it is CTRL+SHIFT+v
[00:18] <vale_> yup
[00:18] <phillw> vale, the insides of your computer do not change depending on what operating system you use :D
[00:19] <vale_> LEL, right XD
[00:19] <vale_> I thought it was like a bug report, which also depends on the OS
[00:25] <phillw> vale_: the idea of having a hardware report in, is that if you say "it works on 12.04, but does not on 13,04", they can look and see what changed that would prevent it working on the same hardware. The wiki page that has the details on reporting your hardware does go into a bit more detail.
[00:26] <vale_> oh, now I get it
[00:26] <vale_> btw I'm installing the sofwtare needed for that report
[00:33] <phillw> vale_: do you have a launchpad account?
[00:33] <vale_> nope
[00:33] <vale_> and it seems the pc has just crashed :S
[00:33] <phillw> vale_:  you need one to report bugs.
[00:34] <vale_> not ubuntu one?
[00:34] <phillw> if you have a ubuntu launchpad account, that is what is required.
[00:35] <phillw> was there anything obvious on the crash when you tried to install the applications to get a hardware review?
[00:36] <vale_> nah it didn't crashed, it just frozed for a bit, I guess too many chrome tabs opened
[00:36] <phillw> chrome can eat memory!
[00:36] <vale_> but it seems I can't login on the wiki, since the login page doesn't load
[00:37] <vale_> it sure does, I need a lighter browser
[00:37] <vale_> I only have a PIII @500 MHz
[00:37] <phillw> has the install of the new applications happened yet?
[00:38] <phillw> vale_: we're switching back to ffox in 13.10, it is now the lighter browser.
[00:39] <vale_> is it? mh, I think I need something waaaaaaay lighter
[00:39] <vale_> nope, no new installation for the moment, nor updates
[00:39] <phillw> for a really low spec machine, there is one much lighter, just not fully official.
[00:39] <vale_> which one?
[00:40] <vale_> ok, even if I logged in it says I can't modify the page :S
[00:41] <vale_> if I give you the pastebin and other things, can you do it?
[00:42] <phillw> yes, I will edit the page up. i do need some sort of contact name at some point... wiki / launchpad address etc.
[00:43] <vale_> mk
[00:43] <phillw> the low resource browser is xombrero (used to be called xxxterm) it is avaialable from https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/non-official-apps
[00:43] <vale_> http://pastebin.com/ZUracGfP it's a custom desktop PC, asus MB P3B-F
[00:44] <vale_> ok, thanks
[00:47] <vale_> btw it's cool how lubuntu recognized the network connection via lan cable to my laptop
[00:47] <vale_> on windows i've spent like 3 hours connecting it
[00:48] <vale_> i share the web connection on that computer with a cross lan cable
[00:48] <vale_> my name on the wiki is vale_maio
[00:54] <phillw> vale_: I cannot find you on the ubuntu wiki area, can you paste your link up, thanks
[00:55] <vale_> sure
[00:57] <vale_> mh, where do I find the link to my user page? :S
[00:58] <phillw> have you got a launchpad account?
[01:00] <phillw> vale_: if you have not got an launchpad address, go get one.. you will need it for reporting bugs etc. It is quite easy to sign up to... https://login.launchpad.net/+new_account,
[01:00] <vale_> indeed
[01:01] <vale_> i have one
[01:01] <phillw> what is the link to it?
[01:01] <vale_> https://launchpad.net/~vale-maio2
[01:02] <phillw> that's pretty recent :D
[01:02] <vale_> indeed
[01:02] <phillw> Give me a few minutes whilst I get your hardware details added into the table.
[01:02] <vale_> I've just logged in
[01:02] <vale_> ok
[01:11] <phillw> vale_: have a check on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware and ensure your details are correct.
[01:12] <vale_> everything's fine, except for the graphic card
[01:12] <vale_> it's an asus v3005
[01:12] <vale_> 32 MB RAM
[01:13] <phillw> those details should be in the 'specifications' part, the title for a customised machine is the mother board.
[01:14] <vale_> yes, I'm taking about that
[01:15] <vale_> the specs say it's a SiS 300
[01:16] <vale_> anyway, thank you for your help, it's really appreciated
[01:16] <phillw> vale_: no, YOUR specs say it is, that was a search of your computer....
[01:16] <phillw> with personal stuff stripped out.
[01:16] <vale_> yes i saw that, but I personally mounted an asus V3005
[01:17] <vale_> which is curious, since windows was telling me I had the same GPU model before installing the appropriate driver
[01:17] <phillw> well, it appears your computer under 12.04 cannot 'see' it. If you have it and it cannot be seen, then you can now look p as to why.
[01:18] <vale_> maybe it cannot see it, but aat least it works pretty well
[01:19] <phillw> well, it may work better if it can... as the ubuntu forums are still down after some saddo cracker decided to attack an F/OSS team, I cannot give you the link to where to get further information.
[01:20] <vale_> yeah, I saw that, kinda sad
[01:20] <vale_> well, I gotta go now, thank you again for your help
[01:21] <phillw> you're more than welcome. i hope I have at least solved a couple of issues!
[01:22] <vale_> you sure did!
[01:22] <vale_> bye!
[02:43] <Guest12284> im running lubuntu 13.04 - 64bit on an acer aspire s3 and i was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to get controll of the screen brightness?
[02:45] <phillw> Guest12284: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireS3
[02:46] <phillw> I'm hoping that does not point to the forum area, as it is currently 'down'.
[02:47] <Guest12284> nah it seems to work .. i think i tried that in a different forum that i was looking through but ill go through it again thanks
[02:49] <Guest12284> looks like my grub file is blank ... uh oh
[02:50] <Unit193> What "grub file"?
[02:50] <Guest12284> sudo gedit /etc/defaults/grub
[02:50] <Guest12284> that grub
[02:50] <Guest12284> /etc/defaults/grub
[02:51] <Unit193> No, it's /etc/default/grub
[02:51] <Guest12284> ha typo on the webpage
[02:52] <Unit193> Bleh.
[02:54] <phillw> Guest12284: which wiki page?
[02:54] <Guest12284> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireS3
[02:54] <Guest12284> it doesnt work anyway
[02:55] <Guest12284> ...at least on my model
[02:55] <Guest12284> it says "defaults" rather than "default" under the section about screen brightness
[02:57] <phillw> Guest12284: corrected, thanks for reporting it.
[02:57] <Unit193> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75219/screen-brightness-not-adjustable-for-acer-aspire-s3 though I didn't actually read it. >_>
[02:58] <phillw> you have now contributed to the greater good in reporting an error on a wiki page.
[02:59] <Unit193> After you edit the config, and update grub, you have to reboot.
[02:59] <Guest12284> does it say that in the wiki ? or is that more or less a common sense thing ?
[03:02] <phillw> Unit193: the person who wrote the commands into the wiki page can not C&P, the source page they referred to states
[03:02] <phillw> sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[03:02] <phillw> meh....
[03:09] <kriston> Hi, how can I add a search box to the Lubuntu menu like I have in Xubuntu and other environments?
[03:15] <phillw> kriston: I've never run xubuntu, so you will have to be a bit more specific as to what you want to achieve.
[03:15] <kriston> phillw: Thanks.  In some desktop environments there is a little box that appears.  It's a search box where I can type "Terminal" and when I type it the results of that search appear from which I can choose the results.
[03:17] <kriston> In regular Ubuntu, it's the box that appears when you click the Ubuntu icon.  You start typing what you want in that box and the results start appearing instantly.  I see it in the other variants of Ubuntu but not in Lubuntu.  I think some people call it "live search."
[03:26] <phillw> kriston: it is most likely disabled (not installed) by default owing to it requiring too much resources for low-spec machines. If you find its name in, say, xubuntu, you can most likely add it using apt-get install.
[03:27] <kriston> phillw: I think you're right.  It does require lots of resources.  I'll keep looking.  Thanks!
[03:28] <phillw> kriston: it is for this reason we have LSC as our software center, the others are just too hungry for resources on the lowest specification machines.
[03:29] <kriston> phillw: Yeah, thanks, that didn't occur to me, but I think I get it now.  Thanks again.
[03:29] <phillw> you're welcome!
[03:34] <kriston> It was one of those cool features but I didn't realize it involved a significant amount of background task resources to actually index the system for it to work.
[03:36] <kriston> How do I add things to the LXDE menu?
[03:40] <kriston> Well, actually, it will be a search box, probably not able to do that.  I was just wondering.
[03:41] <phillw> kriston: the way I know is  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Windows#How_to_make.2BAC8-add_an_application_to_the_.22start.22_menu.
[03:42] <phillw> There may be an easier way (try lubuntu tweaks)
[03:42] <kriston> Excellent suggestion.  THanks.
[03:55] <Unit193> xfce4-appfinder really isn't heavy, it's the Alt+F2 application.
[04:20] <vychune> hello everyone!
[04:20] <kriston> Does Alt-F2 do a live search as I type a command, like "Terminal," into the box?
[04:22] <vychune> kriston: no its looking for a Linux command such as "man startx" or something like that
[04:23] <kriston> vychune: Oh, that's not what I'm looking for, but since live search is outside the scope of the low-resource LXDE, I'm probably looking in the wrong place.
[04:23] <vychune> you can install a program for it though
[04:24] <kriston> What program?  I am looking for a box that lets me do a live search in the main menu or in the panel.
[04:27] <vychune> i ant to say gnome-do but thats not lxde
[04:27] <vychune> *want
[04:28] <ianorlin> hmm pcmanfm doesn't have applications inside of it as a search criteria
[04:30] <ianorlin> oh actually hitting super+R for run brings up a  box that does that
[04:30] <ianorlin> if you start typing it will try to complete it or is that only if you have launched it in terminal
[04:31] <vychune> kriston: you want kupfer
[04:32] <kriston> Interesting
[04:32] <vychune> i'm about to get it myself lol
[04:32] <kriston> Honestly, I have confusion.
[04:33] <vychune> hey guys, i just tried to install netbeans and got an installArchives() error
[04:33] <vychune> any idea what happened?
[04:34] <vychune> kriston: do you mean you are confused?
[04:34] <kriston> Yep
[04:35] <vychune> about?
[04:36] <kriston> About the way to add a live search box to my LXDE menu.
[04:36] <vychune> wait....like the one in windows 7?
[04:36] <kriston> Yes, and all the other variants of Ubuntu.
[04:38] <vychune> xubuntu doesnt have that lol
[04:38] <kriston> I installed it yesterday and it does have it.
[04:38] <vychune> rally?
[04:38] <vychune> really*
[04:38] <vychune> when did that happen? lol
[04:39] <kriston> Yeah.  I was installing some of the GNOME-like "Start Menu" derivatives to see which ones had the live search feature.
[04:40] <vychune> oh i thought you meant pre installed lol
[04:40] <vychune> those dont work in lxde?
[04:40] <holstein> !info kupfer
[04:40] <ubottu> kupfer (source: kupfer): fast and lightweight desktop summoner/launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0+v208-2 (raring), package size 810 kB, installed size 2862 kB
[04:40] <kriston> If they do, I don't know how to add them to lxde
[04:41] <holstein> ^^ i just add that, which is gnome-do/synapse like..
[04:41] <vychune> holstein: thanks for that
[04:41] <holstein> i think that is "live search"
[04:41] <vychune> i told him about that already
[04:41] <kriston> Yes, like gnome-do.  But "live search" is a microsoft term people don't like to hear.  And vychune did mention that.
[04:42] <holstein> kriston: i dont care what im hearing.. the issue is, i dont know what that is
[04:42] <vychune> he wants it in the menu like Windows 7
[04:42] <holstein> kriston: pretent i dont use windows, since i dont
[04:42] <holstein> kriston: what are you wanting?
[04:42] <kriston> Well, like regular Ubuntu more like.
[04:42] <kriston> Scroll up.  We solved it already.  But, thanks anyway.
[04:44] <vychune> holstein:http://youtu.be/KhxFmU0xlow
[04:46] <ianorlin> hitting super+r to run things also gets an autocomplete which can be helpful
[04:47] <vychune> ianorlin:thats for commandline, not what he wanted
[04:47] <holstein> looks like kupfer to me
[04:48] <vychune> yep
[04:49] <ianorlin> oh
[04:50] <vychune> anybody know how to fix the slowness with ATI rage 128 pro cards?
[04:50] <holstein> vychune: vesa driver ;)
[04:51] <vychune> :/
[04:52] <vychune> caant wait to get a new card
[04:53] <vychune> oh great x crashed
[04:54] <vychune> holstein: name of the driver? might have to install from command line
[04:55] <Unit193> !vesa
[04:55] <ubottu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[04:56] <holstein> you can specify it with a custom xorg.conf.. i usually just fire up a live CD like puppy or knoppix and grab the xorg from there
[04:57] <vychune> Unit193: o/ don't remember where i've seen you but hey!
[04:57] <Unit193> Howdy again!
[04:57] <vychune> oh yeah ubuntu tn right?
[04:58] <Unit193> Yep.
[04:58] <vychune> (howdy clicked my memory)
[04:58] <Unit193> Ahaha!  Nice. :P
[04:58] <vychune> good times
[04:59] <vychune> bu anywho, there's no better driver for this?
[04:59] <holstein> vychune: no
[04:59] <holstein> support for that hardware likely wont get any "better"
[05:00] <holstein> ati isnt likely to do any new development for it anytime soon
[05:00] <vychune> i know that
[05:00] <vychune> yeah
[05:00] <vychune> but what about the last one to come out?
[05:01] <holstein> vychune: try it
[05:01] <vychune> i could if i knew how to get it
[05:01] <holstein> !ati
[05:01] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[05:02] <holstein> ^^ thats what i always refer to.. but you might need to go to the amd site for latest drivers
[05:02] <vychune> gotta lov that bot
[05:21] <vychune> hit the dng wifi switch
[05:24] <vychune> holstein: trying it now
[06:45] <freakingmartin> does lubuntu have a driver for graphics card Radeon HD4200 Series?
[06:47] <Unit193> You can check for additional drivers in "Software Sources"
[06:48] <freakingmartin> I did but i dont this my distribution supports my graphics card any more because of the new kernal raring ringtail has
[06:51] <freakingmartin> the driver only supports Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4
[06:52] <freakingmartin> Do you now what linux distribution might have this?
[06:54] <freakingmartin> :)
[06:54] <Unit193> Nope, though I'd hope they'd update it...
[06:56] <freakingmartin> Yea i dont think they'd update these graphics cards no more :( its a legacy driver
[06:58] <freakingmartin> So much for lubuntu trying to run on "old" computers.
[07:26] <freakingmartin> how would i do a man in the middle attack on linux?
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[10:54] <ynze_> goodday
[10:54] <ynze_> Little help needed for a lubuntu on a Eee pc 901
[10:54] <ynze_> Someone avialable?
[12:17] <James0r2> there a way to force a higher resolution than what's allowed in the wine configuration menu?
[12:18] <James0r2> I have an app window that opens up too big each time on my netbook. trying to resize the window just causes more problems
[12:50] <James0r2> can anyone tell me how to go about changing the font color of tasks in the taskbar?
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[14:01] <Amkei> hello, after upgrading Lubuntu 11.10 to 12.xx I dont have a mouse-wheel, I dont know where to configure it, can anyone help me please?
[14:09] <Guest81849> hi guys, hey is LNR still maintained ?
[14:14] <genii> Guest81849: As I understand, the installer now decides at runtime which desktop you need, desktop or netbook, etc
[14:19] <Guest81849> hmm I see, since wich version ?
[14:20] <maikiro> Hello all
[15:08] <maikiro> got error installing virtualbox and got no idea. Anyone advise?
[15:08] <maikiro> Iiyama prolite G2773HS 27" Widescreen TFT monitor.
[15:09] <maikiro> Setting up virtualbox (4.2.10-dfsg-0ubuntu2) ...
[15:09] <maikiro>  * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules                                    [ OK ]
[15:09] <maikiro>  * Starting VirtualBox kernel modules                                            * No suitable module for running kernel found
[15:09] <maikiro>                                                                          [fail]
[15:09] <holstein> !paste | maikiro
[15:09] <ubottu> maikiro: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:09] <holstein> maikiro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126175/virtualbox-doesnt-load-after-12-04-upgrade should be similar if not the same
[15:16] <maikiro> ta holstein
[15:27] <Amkei> After upgrading Lubuntu 11.10 to 12.xx (using it in a VirtualBox) the mouse-wheel is disabled. Does anyone know where to configure mouse-types/wheel?
[15:28] <holstein> Amkei: that will be challenging.. i would just reinstall guest additions
[15:28] <Amkei> Thats the first thing I'd done
[15:30] <holstein> Amkei: then, you understand it is not a mouse-wheel.. it is passing the hardware through virtually
[15:32] <holstein> you can try booting a 12.04 live CD in the guest, to confirm that is "should" be working out-of-the-box
[15:33] <Amkei> Isnt there something similar to xconf where I can set the mouse-typ?
[15:34] <holstein> Amkei: you can always add your own xorg.conf back
[15:34] <holstein> Amkei: i would check for and apply ugrades... and reinstall guest additions
[15:35] <joshu> hi I'm having a problem with  "No protocol specified, Error: Can't open display :0"
[15:36] <holstein> joshu: with what? the guest OS inside virtualbox?
[15:36] <joshu> I've got xserver-xorg and lightdm installed on ubuntu mini iso. I've tried export DISPLAY=:0 but that doesn't help. I don't know what packages I need or what config is required to solve this error.
[15:37] <joshu> holstein this is installed on an HP laptop
[15:37] <holstein> joshu: you shoul be able to pull in lubuntu from lubuntu-desktop metapackage
[15:37] <holstein> should*
[15:38] <joshu> holstein will it not work without the full lubuntu? I'm trying to build a minimal system I don't need a desktop GUI etc
[15:38] <holstein> joshu: it worked for me, but i dont know where the minimal iso support channel would be
[15:38] <holstein> joshu: if you dont want a GUI, there should be no need for lightdm or xserver
[15:38] <joshu> holstein wait you've done this from ubuntu mini?
[15:39] <holstein> joshu: i have used the ubuntu mini iso..
[15:39] <holstein> !mini
[15:39] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:39] <joshu> holstein I should have been more specific. I just need lightdm and when a user logs in I want to start an xfreerdp session nothing else
[15:39] <joshu> holstein perhaps as you have experience with mini you can suggest what I'm doing wrong. I've tried googling but with no luck
[15:40] <holstein> joshu: i have had mixed luck with that setup in the past.. sometimes i needed to add more packages
[15:40] <holstein> joshu: i always found documentation with the thin client helpful
[15:42] <joshu> holstein damn I need to figure this out. I didn't realise it would be so difficult to get a freerdp session running from lightdm
[15:42] <holstein> joshu: ask what the guest needs
[15:42] <joshu> holstein sorry I don't follow?
[15:42] <holstein> joshu: for thinlinc, the guest needs to have XFCE installed
[15:42] <holstein> joshu: if you dont have all the packages, you will get an error
[15:43] <joshu> holstein I'm not using thinlinc.
[15:43] <holstein> joshu: correct
[15:43] <holstein> joshu: so, you view the *specific* documentation for what you are using
[15:44] <holstein> joshu: and, you'l see what the requirements are, and what you need. which in the case of thinlinc, from my recent first hand experience, was all of xfce
[15:44] <holstein> joshu: for freenx, the requirements were different, though i did that years ago, so i didnt mention the details
[15:55] <bgd> hello
[15:56] <bgd> this is a help channel for lubuntu?
[15:57] <joshu> holstein I'm trying to compare what is missing in my ubuntu mini install versus a standard ubuntu install I have which doesn't have this problem.
[15:58] <joshu> holstein according to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession#LightDM_configuration I've followed that but nothing happens just black screen and then back at the lightdm greeter
[15:58] <bgd> how I can fix this error *E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.*  ?
[16:02] <gohst> Hi, I got earcandy from it's project site on launchpad (https://launchpad.net/earcandy) but I got some trouble to make it run on lubuntu 13.04 (see http://pastebin.com/4z077ciL) has anyone expirience with this?
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[17:08] <Guest16966> hello
[17:08] <Guest16966> j'ai la date en arabe
[17:08] <Guest16966> comment la supprimer?
[17:10] <holstein> !fr
[17:10] <ubottu> Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[17:10] <holstein> Guest16966: ^
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[20:19] <moondog> Is it true that lubuntu uses the exact same software repositories as Ubuntu?  so they should both offer the same choices of what can be installed?
[20:24] <Unit193> Exactly.
[21:14] <moondog> nice! thank you.
[21:40] <joshu> hey Unit193
[22:13] <Unit193> joshu: Howdy.
[23:59] <Kuroshita> hey all, how can I change the system font in Lubuntu? I changed the font settings in the Openbox config but the menu and everything is still the default Ubuntu font.