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sam113101I found a bug in the dash00:03
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pittiGood morning04:14
darkxstjibel, gtk is failing autopkgtests in notify-osd, would you be able to have a look at that?04:40
darkxstwe were hoping to get this update into alpha204:40
robrudidrocks, good morning! actually it seems I don't have permission to top-approve this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/packaging/+merge/17656906:26
didrocksrobru: oh, that's so sad! let me approve it then :)06:29
didrocksrobru: only because of the smiley :p06:29
robruhahah06:29
didrocksdone ;)06:30
didrocksthanks robru!06:30
robrudidrocks, thanks06:30
didrocksrobru: once merged, you will prepare the cu2d-config?06:30
didrocks(probably your tomorrow)06:30
robrudidrocks, oh, what needs to be done in -config?06:31
didrocksrobru: adding the new component06:31
didrocksit's not in yet, right?06:31
didrocks(for daily releases)06:31
robrudidrocks, hmmm, well it has no autopilot and I don't see any tests running during build... should it be daily released?06:32
didrocksrobru: yeah, it's a simple settings package, should be part of misc I guess06:32
robrudidrocks, hmmm, let me do that now, because I want you to review it before you leave today06:33
didrocksok ;)06:33
didrocksrobru: you will need to poke fginther for setting up the upstream merger part though06:33
robrudidrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/cupstream2distro-config/add-gsettings/+merge/176606 I guess this is all that's needed? I'm not sure what else needs to be done06:36
didrocksrobru: I think that's fine, I'm not sure if the upstream merger needs more TBH…06:38
didrocksrobru: so, let me approve it, please check with fginther once he's online to set up the upstream merger06:38
didrocksrobru: and then, you can redeploy the stack to add the component to tomorrow's daily06:38
didrockssounds good?06:38
robrudidrocks, I don't think so... none of the other packages listed there have anything special. I think it's only when CI needs to know about autopilot that you need to do anything special.06:38
robrudidrocks, ok06:38
didrocksrobru: yeah, sounds like the case, he needs to create the CI part anyway ;)06:39
robrudidrocks, hmmm, how do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906637/06:49
didrocksrobru: you need to be in the team06:51
robrubah!06:51
didrocksLaney: can you add robru to ~system-settings-touch?06:51
robruis it worth joining the team (since this isn't my usual stack) or should I just let somebody else do this?06:51
didrocksrobru: well, can be easier in case you need to deploy :)06:51
robruok06:51
jibelgood morning06:54
didrockssalut jibel06:54
didrocksjibel: mind doing a quick review? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906654/06:58
didrocksjibel: the corresponding change to cu2d-run is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906657/06:59
jibelSalut didrocks07:04
jibeldidrocks, I am not sure about the change in cu2d-run, I need to look at the code in its context07:08
didrocksjibel: I've already ran it, it's just using the "head" job now for everything07:09
jibeldidrocks, indeed that's what I read from the pastebin but would like to check if it doesn't have any side effect since you're creating the main job in the publish section07:10
didrocksjibel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906678/07:13
didrocksthe full command07:13
didrocksI've moved jobname up now07:13
didrocksas we are always using head07:13
jibeldidrocks, it is different from the patch, but LGTM :)07:15
jibeldidrocks, approved07:15
didrocksjibel: yep, as told, I just moved the jobname up (instead of defining it twice in the if with the same name :p)07:16
didrocksjibel: thanks!07:16
didrocksdeploying all the stacks and pushing07:16
larsuTrevinho: woah, bamf support for qmlscene?!07:24
larsuI thought we wanted to have a proper launcher instead of relying on qmlscene07:24
pittibienvenue à les premiers langpacks pour saucy !07:27
pittihey larsu, wie gehts?07:27
larsupitti: sehr gut danke! Will sign a lease for an appartment in Berlin today :)07:30
larsupitti: wie geht's dir?07:31
pittilarsu: oh, not homeless any more! :-)07:31
pittilarsu: sehr gut, danke07:31
larsupitti: yeah! Now I have a home (with nothing in it :D)07:31
sil2100Hi desktoppers!07:36
sil2100hm, I noticed appmenu-gtk stopped building in the PPA because of the lack of gtk/ubuntumenuproxy.h07:36
sil2100Did something change? Or is appmenu-gtk so deprecated that it won't build anymore?07:36
larsusil2100: it depends on a patch in gtk that got dropped07:37
seb128good morning desktopers07:37
sil2100seb128: morning!07:37
seb128hey sil2100, larsu07:37
sil2100larsu: oh, so maybe it would be wise for me to disable it from daily release then?07:38
seb128sil2100, what larsu said, the source got dropped from saucy recently, we should probably stop daily building it as well07:38
sil2100Right07:38
larsusil2100: yep :)07:39
sil2100seb128, larsu, didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/drop_appmenu-gtk/+merge/17661507:45
sil2100If it's ok, I'll be redeploying indicators and re-running, since appmenu-gtk was blocking the release07:45
didrockshey seb128, sil2100, larsu07:45
didrocksand pitti07:45
seb128didrocks, lut07:45
sil2100Hi! \o/07:45
didrockssil2100: before redeploying, ensure to merge to trunk ;)07:45
larsudidrocks: good morning didrocks!07:45
larsuwoah, double-ping07:46
didrocks:)07:46
sil2100didrocks: I re-ran QA since a new autopilot with the AP fixes has landed after the daily-release process, so it might be green now07:46
seb128didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/drop_appmenu-gtk/+merge/176615 seems fine to me?07:46
larsusil2100: I don't even know what this does... so I'll let didrocks handle the MR07:46
didrockssil2100: ok, thanks07:46
seb128didrocks, that's not covered in the faq, seems weird that it needs a new file just to drop a component?07:46
thomisil2100: if it's still broken, please let me know07:46
sil2100thomi: thanks guys!07:47
thomisil2100: no worries07:47
thomione of those problems was really hard to track down :)07:47
didrocksseb128: I think sil2100 wants still to have the upstream merger in07:47
sil2100didrocks: we could drop it completely as well, but I thought it's not up to me if it's 'dropped' completely or not07:48
sil2100;)07:48
sil2100Having autolanding is not a bad thing for now07:48
sil2100didrocks: ok, merged in trunk and now redeploying \o/07:50
sil2100didrocks: hmmm07:55
sil2100didrocks: strange thing happened07:56
sil2100didrocks: I redeployed the indicators stack for head, but it still has appmenu-gtk in it?07:56
didrockssil2100: is the strange thing linked to my modification from the morning?07:56
didrockssil2100: yeah, the jobs aren't removed07:56
didrockssil2100: it's just "unplugged"07:56
didrocksso that you can still track the history07:56
didrocksyou need to remove it manually07:56
didrocks(the prepare job itself)07:56
sil2100didrocks: do I have to remove the prepare job for the check job to not notice it?07:57
sil2100didrocks: maybe I need to rebuild the stack without 'foo', since it's still looking for appmenu-gtk07:57
didrockssil2100: no, you don't need to remove the prepare job, it's already unplugged07:58
didrockssil2100: so, just rebuild with foo07:58
didrocksah07:58
didrocksyeah, indeed07:58
didrocksyou need to remove .project file07:58
didrocksor rebuild the whole stack07:58
* sil2100 removed the .project file and re-ran08:00
didrockssil2100: so, I changed the "force publication" mecanism08:00
didrocksif you use the command line tool, no change for you08:00
didrocks(just ensure you have the latest cupstream2distro)08:00
sil2100didrocks: I noticed that it's available on the head job as well08:00
didrocksit's only available on the head job now08:01
sil2100Ah08:01
seb128\o/ unity landing08:01
didrocksthat way, we'll get "green" everywhere in the stack08:01
sil2100seb128: yes, yesterday it landed ;p I mean, I forcefully landed it :<08:01
didrocksno more "yellow" even if published08:01
pittibonjour seb12808:01
seb128sil2100, what was the issue/how did it get unblocked?08:01
seb128pitti, salut, ça va bien ?08:01
didrocksit's in proposed, right?08:01
didrocksblocked manually by Laney I guess08:01
pittile vert, le vert pour tous le monde !08:01
Laneyhello08:01
seb128didrocks, a2 block I guess08:01
pittiseb128: oui, merci ! et toi ?08:02
seb128Laney, good morning08:02
didrocksseb128: oh, right, for lubuntu maybe08:02
pittiLaney: good day!08:02
seb128pitti, ça va bien, merci ;-)08:02
sil2100seb128: so, there was a lot of issues with unity, first we had the DBus saturation issue which got fixed in HUD, then we had autopilot failures, then there were otto problems with OOM (due to recordmydesktop), then we had powerpc FTBFS and finally there was a flacky unit test that fails randomly on slow armhf machines08:02
sil2100phew08:02
sil2100didrocks: \o/08:02
sil2100didrocks: so, even when using the CLI tool, the head job will turn green then?08:03
didrockssil2100: yep08:03
Laneydidrocks: I don't understand what the point of passing --fail-missing to all dh commands is? Does something other than dh_install listen to it?08:03
seb128didrocks,ubuntukylin rather I guess08:03
seb128(they use unity)08:03
didrocksLaney: no, it just prevent having an override for one line08:04
didrocksseb128: ah ok08:04
didrocksseb128: btw, I already preNEWed the settings package from Laney?08:04
Laneyseems weird and less self documenting08:04
seb128didrocks, is that a question? ;-)08:04
didrocksargh, brain broken08:04
didrocksit was:08:04
didrocksseb128: btw, *did you*…08:05
seb128didrocks, yes08:05
didrocksgreat, so should be there as soon as fginther setup the upstream merger08:05
Laneyam I supposed to merge this branch or wait for that?08:05
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didrocksLaney: I think it will be the right timing to check to test fginther deployement :)08:07
Laneyk08:07
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sil2100didrocks: hm, the mirslave check job seems to be hanged for ati08:27
sil2100didrocks: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/583/label=autopilot-ati/console08:27
sil2100didrocks: it's not moving, and it blocks other AP tests08:28
didrockssil2100: indeed, it seems that the tests didn't start08:28
didrockssil2100: let me ssh08:28
didrockssil2100: well, it will block until the timeout…08:28
sil2100The timeout is quite large ;)08:28
didrockssil2100: I don't remember, still 2 hours?08:28
didrockssil2100: or did we keep a higher value for your dbus issue?08:28
sil2100No idea, hm, I always thought it's till 2 hours for all, but maybe it's not?08:29
didrockssil2100: so 2h is needed, see the time taken by unity tests…08:29
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didrockssil2100: ok, I'm powering that off08:31
sil2100didrocks: ok, thanks :)08:32
didrockswill retry after those tests ran08:32
bdrungSweetshark: hi. i am sorry that i just overlooked/ignored your mail regarding libreoffice 4.1.0 rc1.08:32
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bdrungSweetshark: do you want to update the branch to rc4?08:32
bdrungSweetshark: do you want to merge debian-experimental-4.1?08:33
Sweetsharkbdrung: I updated to rc4, and have a testbuild running in https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-staging -- I will push when it succeeds.08:35
Sweetsharkbdrung: it already merged debian-experimental-4.1 quite recently.08:35
bdrungSweetshark: then it doesn't seem to be pushed to alioth.08:39
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didrockssil2100: it seems the ati machine is screwed, no?08:42
didrocksweird that we only see this on the ati machine08:42
sil2100didrocks: it happened on intel today as well08:42
didrockssil2100: a race in distro? what changed?08:42
didrocksit's the same snapshot than yesterday though08:43
sil2100didrocks: today's unity run had a timeout on intel and ati passed - I poked jibel about that, since in case of unity I thought it's the OOM thing with recordmydesktop08:43
didrocksjibel: you didn't change anything on the machines, right? ^08:43
sil2100FJKong: welcome to our team!08:49
FJKong#sil2108 thank you very much :)08:51
FJKongsil2100, thank you08:51
didrockswelcome FJKong :)08:52
pittihey FJKong, welcome to the desktop team!08:52
pittiFJKong: task #1: learn French08:52
sil2100:o08:52
pittisalut Monsieur FJKong, bienvenue à l'équipe de bureau !08:53
* sil2100 doesn't know French yet!08:53
Laneyah but you put it in your annual objectives, yesyes? :P08:54
seb128FJKong, hey, welcome on board!08:54
FJKongpitti, French  sounds good, symbol of romantic.08:55
FJKongthank you guys,  happy to meet you here.08:55
Laneywtf08:58
Laneymaliit "general packaging cleanup" -> throw away everything that was there before and start again08:58
seb128who did that?08:59
seb128oh, rsalvati08:59
Laneyyes08:59
seb128weird08:59
seb128he's usually doing reasonable changes08:59
Laneyquite annoying08:59
seb128rsalveti, ^ can you explain why you redid the packaging? (I guess you are sleeping, but later when you read the backlog)09:00
LaneyI guess it's what was in the phablet branch09:00
seb128well, that's an upload to the archive, they should have rebased on the archive version09:01
seb128not the other way around09:01
Laneyyou'd think...09:02
Laneythat's also the packaging that's in debian ^o)09:04
seb128let's wait for rsalveti09:06
seb128no need to speculate about the reasons09:06
Laneywasn't09:08
seb128Laney, btw, I reviewed your tz merge proposal09:10
seb128Laney, that list is crazy :p09:10
Laneyhaha09:11
Laneyit'll only be displayed when you type something in the box09:11
seb128it better does that, if you don't want to spend your day scrolling down ;-)09:11
Laneywill do that after reviewing the diagnostics branch again09:16
mhr3seb128, continuing on yesterday's build.id, where to get that from once hybris doesn't provide it? ie where will it be on ubuntu-edge? :)09:17
seb128mhr3, no I don't, I'm not even sure those details are defined yet ... check with ogra_ or rsalveti maybe they know09:18
mhr3somehow i expected that answer09:19
seb128;-)09:19
* Laney eyes the PS Jenkins bot09:27
didrocksLaney: what about it?09:29
Laneythere's something off in its chroot09:29
Laneyhttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-system-settings-saucy-amd64-ci/148/console09:29
didrocksLaney: ah, I thought you meant the upload in proposed09:30
ogra_seb128, mhr3, well, the question is, do you want to expose android build info at all :) the ubuntu rootfs build id is in /var/log/installer/media-info in case you prefer that09:30
Laneyno, don't know anything about any upload09:30
Laneynot sure I want to :P09:30
mhr3ogra_, well i just want a build id, surely once we don't have android bits we still need it09:31
ogra_mhr3, well, then the ubuntu image build id is probably the best09:32
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mhr3ogra_, then again we want it so the individual operator variants can be distinguished, so not exactly :)09:33
ogra_and that file is also compatible with i.e. debian-installer or ubiquity installations09:33
ogra_well, then you need the id from the props i guess09:34
ogra_btw, i wouldnt expect the edge to work differently from the nexus images we have today09:34
ogra_we will have more access to the binary blobs there but i wouldnt expect the concept to change to radical here09:35
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xnoxogra_: mhr3: there is another file we use for oem/sku distinguishing.09:38
ogra_xnox, in the cdimage generated builds ?09:38
mhr3xnox, there is?09:38
ogra_i dont think we did put any stamp info inside until i implemented the above one09:38
xnoxcreated by oem-config, i don't think cdimage creates it at the moment, but if/when we will have per-sku/operator builds, we will add it.09:38
ogra_right09:38
xnoxogra_: but using same stamp as oem-config will make it compatible between phone/desktop installs.09:39
ogra_xnox, what is that stamp file ? /var/log/installer/media-info is what all tools use (i.e. apport)09:39
* ogra_ never heard of another one except for jenkins build stamps (shich nothing in the archive uses)09:40
xnoxogra_: var/log/installer/oem-id09:41
ogra_ah09:41
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xnoxogra_:  that's present on all OEM pre-installed ubuntu machines, I believe, or if one manually create oem install and configures it.09:42
* ogra_ never saw it ... even in preinstalled oem installs, do you need to preseed anything to have it created ?09:42
xnoxogra_: so when ubiquity is launched in oem mode, it offers to specify oem id, it's optional field =/ and then it will be propogated to var/log/installer/oem-id. There is no other magic to it =) it's meant to denote batch/sku of machines09:43
ogra_xnox, ah, that why i never saw it on arm installs09:44
ogra_we never ran the preparation step there but instead started directly into the config09:44
xnoxogra_: right, cause only the later "client" portion is used in pre-installed arm. The oem-id is in the "prepare" portion of it.09:44
seb128Laney, did you get a reply from anyone on the CI chroot issue?09:48
Laneyseb128: nope, who/where is the place to ping about that?09:49
seb128sil2100, ^ can you help?09:49
didrocksseb128: this is the upstream merger09:52
didrocksI doubt sil2100 can help09:53
seb128didrocks, that's fginthers?09:53
didrocksI think you need to ping fginther/alesage…09:53
didrocksyeah09:53
seb128thanks09:53
seb128that was the question "who to ping" ;-)09:53
sil2100Sadly, all the upstream merger people are US based...09:54
sil2100This is a bit sad I must say09:54
didrocksthat's why I try to avoid the CI word09:54
didrocksbut it seems I'm in the minority09:54
didrocksanyway…09:54
seb128oh, I know what's the issue is09:55
seb128hum, or not09:55
seb128Laney, oh, I know09:55
seb128Laney, you need libtimezonemap >= 0.4.0.1 or that version is only in proposed and CI doesn't use proposed09:55
seb128so it fails to install the requirement09:56
Laneywhy is it going on about python?09:56
seb128I don't know, apt errors on install fail can be confusing09:56
Laneydidn't we make the daily releases use proposed now anyway?09:57
seb128 pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy : Depends: libtimezonemap1-dev (>= 0.4.0.1) but it is not going to be installed.09:57
seb128...09:57
seb128Laney, CI != merger09:57
Laneyyes09:57
Laneybut they should use the same sources09:57
seb128we have been going forth and back on that09:58
seb128I didn't follow closely what was decided, they both have issues09:58
seb128Laney, can you unblock libmaptimezone out of proposed?09:59
Laneyit wouldn't be much good if it passed here and then failed to build in the daily release PPA because of a problem in proposed09:59
seb128it doesn't seem there is any reason to hold it in there, it's not a disruptive update09:59
seb128Laney, there doesn't seem to be an issue with proposed, what do you mean?10:01
Laneythe argument against enabling proposed there10:02
seb128Laney, well, alternatively, if you don't want to unblock the lib, can you lower the build-depends and list the things that you need to workaround the buggy -dev depends?10:03
LaneyI'd rather unblock it than do that10:03
Laneybut I'd rather have to do neither10:03
seb128Laney, I'm not arguing in favor or anything, the CI guys are U.S based and sleeping and I don't want us to block work on them to be up and on further discussions10:03
Laneystill, I'll unblock10:03
Laneynot convinced this is the only problem though :-)10:03
seb128thanks10:03
seb128let's see10:04
seb128I just tried in a pbuilder10:04
seb128which suggests it is10:04
seb128not sure why python is listed in that log though10:04
sil2100didrocks: packages list refreshed!10:18
sil2100didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/add_check_to_unity8/+merge/17640710:18
sil2100didrocks: it tests on jenkins, so it's ok10:18
sil2100(there are some failures though)10:18
sil2100Test failures10:18
didrockssil2100: ande working apparently, right? (well some tests failing, but that's up to Saviq's team of a bad interaction with unity7 loaded?)10:18
didrocksand*10:18
didrockssil2100: you did ping him?10:18
sil2100didrocks: will to ;) But I guess the branch is OK for approval in the meantime10:19
didrockssil2100: DONE10:19
sil2100didrocks: THX :D10:19
seb128Laney, CI just acked https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/sound-design-update/+merge/176645 for me10:20
seb128Laney, which suggests the chroot is fine, it's just getting unhappy about the libtimezone thing10:20
Laneyit's in saucy now so let's see10:20
Laneyif it triggers itself10:21
seb128you might need to change the status of the mp to retrigger a CI run10:21
seb128or ping fginter/alasage10:21
Laneyi'll wait until it is on the mirror10:22
seb128ok10:22
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Saviqdesrt, ping11:43
desrtSaviq: hey11:57
Saviqdesrt, hey, I stumbled upon an issue with Gio.Settings.new_with_path11:57
Saviqdesrt, it seems to require trailing slash11:58
desrtthat's correct11:58
desrtdconf and gsettings have a very strict concept of what is a pathname and what is a keyname11:58
desrtand pathnames always require trailing slashes to identify them as such11:58
desrtit's because in dconf you can have both /a and /a/b11:58
Saviqdesrt, would it make sense to error out if it doesn't?11:58
desrtso /a is the key and /a/ is the path containing 'b'11:58
desrtSaviq: i think so... they are two different entities11:59
Saviqdesrt, so yeah, new_with_path takes it in blindly11:59
Saviqdesrt, and then the path is simply concatenated with the key value when you set_ it11:59
desrtohhh11:59
desrtouch!11:59
desrtya.  that is a bug11:59
desrtplease file that11:59
desrtthanks11:59
Saviqdesrt, which project?11:59
desrtglib12:00
Saviqdesrt, doing12:00
desrthttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=glib in case you didn't find it already :)12:00
Saviqdesrt, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70480212:04
ubot2`Gnome bug 704802 in gsettings "new_with_path deosn't check for trailing slash in path" [Normal,Unconfirmed]12:04
desrtSaviq: thanks12:04
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seb128Laney, easier to discuss it, what's the advange of an enum there? the enum helps to translate numbers to names right?12:20
seb128discuss it *here*12:20
Laneyseb128: yes, readability, I'm sure your one works too12:20
seb128Laney, in that case I just want to store/read the number12:20
seb128well, I couldn't do index = key12:20
seb128I would need to do (sort == "name") ? 1 : 012:21
Laneyyep12:21
seb128you think it would be easier to read?12:21
seb128that's basically what my first version with the boolean do btw12:22
seb128https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/storage-store-sorting/+merge/17642912:22
LaneyFeels that way but not sure12:22
Laneyyeah it's like that but more extensible12:22
LaneyI don't mind though - do what you think is best12:22
seb128I don't foresee any other option to be added there12:22
seb128ok, let's accept the boolean one then12:22
Laneyjust responded to you asking if it was nice12:22
Laneyok, in a bit though - getting this fitlering to work12:23
seb128sure, thanks12:23
desrtseb128, Laney: good morning guys12:33
seb128desrt, hey12:33
seb128how are you?12:33
Laneyhowdy desrt12:33
desrtpretty good12:33
* desrt has his coffee ;)12:34
rsalvetiLaney: seb128: the general package clean up was on top of sergio's changes, just adding vcs, fixing control, etc, not really big changes13:01
rsalvetiyou can see the bzr log for the packaging branch13:01
rsalvetialso, afaik sergio tried to make this compatible with what we had before13:02
seb128rsalveti, seems like that packaging branch had a packaging different from the one from the archive/Debian13:02
rsalvetiit's just that upstream is kind of broken at this moment13:02
rsalvetiis debian using 0.99 as well?13:02
* rsalveti checks13:02
seb128updating the version usually don't need to redo debian/13:02
seb128just to bump changelog and adapt depends and stuff13:03
rsalvetiright, but everything changed with 9913:03
rsalvetidrop support for gtk13:03
rsalvetimoving from qt4 to qt513:03
rsalvetiand such13:03
LaneyI was trying to keep the packages the same13:03
LaneyI'd have helped review and sponsor any update into Debian13:03
rsalvetiI'm not sure you want .99 in debian at this point13:04
Laneyit's only in experimental as is13:04
rsalvetiit only works for us because we'll be pushing a touch specific keyboard13:04
rsalvetieven the examples, from maliit-plugins is sort of broken =\13:04
rsalvetiright from upstream13:04
rsalveti94 -> 99 is a major change13:05
Laneyso the package is going to be useless for any other consumer than touch for now?13:06
rsalvetiLaney: yes13:06
rsalvetibecause that's the state of upstream13:06
Laneyit's not the state of what we had before in the archive though13:07
rsalvetiit'll be better once we push the other keyboard, which is not touch specific btw, it'll be the one we're using for touch13:08
rsalvetiwe'll do a bit of more work on it still, we just needed a newer version because that got tons of changes we needed13:09
Laneyphew13:19
Laneyfiltering works!13:19
seb128Laney, well done ;-)13:20
Laneythe list data isn't great though13:20
rsalvetihm, no qtdeclarative5-dev for ppc13:20
seb128rsalveti, v8 doesn't exit on ppc13:21
seb128exist13:21
rsalvetiargh13:21
seb128rsalveti, so most of qt5 is !ppc13:21
ogra_bah, so we wont have PPC phone support13:21
ogra_how bad13:21
rsalvetiseb128: so should disable builds for ppc for packages depending on qt5 then?13:21
rsalvetior just let it pending in the archive?13:21
seb128rsalveti, no, they are just going to depwait13:21
Laneyleave it depwaiting13:21
seb128rsalveti, but if it existed before (because it was e.g qt4) you need an archive admin to delete the old ppc binaries13:22
rsalvetiwho knows, someone might want to port v813:22
Laneyseb128: I'm going to reject my outstanding MPs and submit a new big one13:22
seb128otherwise britney stops migration13:22
seb128Laney, ok13:22
rsalvetiseb128: yeah, that's the case here13:22
rsalvetiseb128: oh, and btw, you're an archive admin :P13:22
seb128rsalveti, right :p is that for maliit?13:23
rsalvetiseb128: yup13:23
seb128does it has rdepends?13:23
* seb128 checks13:23
seb128rsalveti, there is a nemo plugin depending on it ... is that going away or?13:24
rsalvetiseb128: we got a dep wait for maliit-framework and maliit-plugins13:24
rsalvetias both uses qt5 now13:24
rsalvetiseb128: new maliit-plugins should bring a newer version of that package13:25
seb128rsalveti, ok, great, let me check with cjwatson to make sure it's ok to delete the binaries and that's going to make britney happy13:25
rsalvetiseb128: great, thanks13:26
attentersalveti, what keyboard are you planning to switch to?13:28
rsalvetiattente: it's basically the one already used in the touch images, but that is part of a fork that happened on top of the previous maliit-plugins package13:29
rsalvetiwhat we'll be doing is pushing another package with just our keyboard, so we can drop the fork13:30
attenteah, thanks13:30
pittiseb128, didrocks: Just a FYI, please don't expect bug 1201485 to land soon13:48
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1201485 in langpack-o-matic "Need to import translations for the unity daily builds" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120148513:48
seb128pitti, :-(13:48
seb128pitti, why not?13:48
pittiseb128, didrocks: if we need to do that entirely in langpack-o-matic, we need to replicate the entire LP logic for importing the raw tarballs13:48
pittiseb128, didrocks: which is a nontrivial amount of work due to all the overrides and mapping logic13:49
pittiseb128, didrocks: my iniitial reaction would have been "let's ask LP to import these tarballs itself", but I guess that's not that much faster as there is no devel crew any more13:49
seb128right13:50
seb128we can still check with wgrant13:51
seb128but I guess waiting on launchpad is going to take forever13:51
pittibut that also means that translating all these packages in LP is broken, right?13:51
pittias the updated translations or POTs never get fed into it13:51
seb128right, that's what the bug is about13:52
seb128the new templates are not imported13:52
seb128so the list of strings is outdated13:52
seb128the export/langpack is actually fine13:52
pittiseb128: right, but I can't fix that on the langpack-o-matic side13:54
pittithe only thing I can do theoretically is to download the raw tarballs, do the mangling/mapping logic myself, and put them into langpacks13:54
pittibut that'll of course sidestep LP translations13:54
seb128shrug13:54
* seb128 tries to think13:54
pittiso the conceptually cleanest solution is actually to copy the raw translation tarballs along when copying the source/binaries13:55
pittias if it were an upload13:55
seb128pitti, no trivial solution, I wonder if we should just hack around by scripting a "upload updated template to launchpad manually" meanwhile13:56
desrtpitti: hey13:57
seb128pitti, it sucks to have unity and indicators not correctly translated13:57
desrtpitti: wanted to talk to you about this systemd version number thing.  what's your take on that?13:57
sil2100jibel: what do you think? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/otto/fix_1203809/+merge/17669213:58
pittiseb128: I updated the bug and pinged William/Steve about it13:59
pittihey desrt13:59
seb128pitti, thanks13:59
sil2100Saviq: approved! Let's get the ball rolling13:59
pittidesrt: my gut feeling is that adding a version API to -shim should be ok13:59
pittidesrt: but it could of course lure other programs into thinking that we actually have systemd as pid 113:59
desrtya....14:00
desrti was wondering if maybe we could get upower upstream to change their behaviour14:00
desrtbut really, why is upower issuing power management jobs these days?14:00
desrtsome legacy code is poking its interfaces or something?14:00
desrtit seems pretty ridiculous that we have a app -> upower -> logind -> systemd-shim -> kernel path :/14:01
pittidesrt: yes; it doesn't issue suspend request by itself, just when you ask it over its dbus interface14:01
Saviqsil2100, yeah... at least half an hour for it to land, though :/14:01
pittidesrt: as it has had the suspend/hibernate calls for many years, we need to transition everything to logind first before we can disable them14:01
pittidesrt: but it works in principle; there is of course the new libusbx sometimes crashing/hanging upower, which causes some problems right now14:02
pittiseb128: so by #u-devel this might actually be much simpler on the LP side14:03
seb128pitti, just read that, great14:04
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ritzSweetshark ping, sorry about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/628105 .15:10
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 628105 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Quantal) "[Upstream] Text not black in LibreOffice" [Undecided,In progress]15:10
ritzSweetshark I will go ahead and subscribe ubuntu-sponsor to this15:10
Sweetsharkritz: np15:11
Sweetsharkritz: do you need this for precise or quantal?15:12
ritzprecise15:13
ritzquantal, not so much. non -LTS15:13
ritzbut nice to have15:13
Sweetsharkritz: Right. So there is a source package locked and loaded at: https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-oneirictest-20110718 -- It only needs the SRU redtape foo ...15:14
ritzmvo hi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDebdeltaSupport . this seems interesting15:14
ritzHow could I push for this out ?15:15
Sweetsharkritz: while few people (some ~300) are using the libreoffice-3-5 ppa this package has been tested there (with only a different version number) for a month now15:17
sil2100didrocks: can I redeploy and re-run unity8?15:50
didrockssil2100: sure15:50
didrockskenvandine: hey, btw, not sure if you published recently manually :)15:59
didrocksFYI, the publisher changed slightly its logic16:00
didrocksit will always retriggers all jobs16:00
didrocksto have "green" instead of "yellow/red"16:00
didrocksthat will clear the view up16:00
didrocksif you used the command line tool, nothing will change, just ensure to have latest cupstream2distro16:00
didrocksif you did it directly on the webui, the "force publication" check is on the head job now, not on the publisher job anymore16:01
didrockscyphermox: as well, FYI ^16:01
cyphermoxcool16:01
kenvandinedidrocks, cool, thanks16:07
seb128laney: oh, another detail ... "Time Zone" or "Time zone"?16:37
seb128the second one is the style we are supposed to use, I was just unsure of "TimeZone" is considered as a word16:37
Laneywhere?16:37
Laneyoh, you mean the design is wrong?16:37
seb128Laney: we didn't have consistency so far but design confirmed recently we should use "sentence case" (e.g only capital for the start of the string)16:38
Laneyshould it be Time & date then?16:38
seb128I'm not sure when there is a "&"16:39
Laneympt: ^?16:39
Laneyfixed Time zone anyway16:41
seb128thanks16:41
seb128kenvandine, do you want to give a look to the cpp code from https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/datetime-panel/+merge/176689 or should I just ack it?16:41
seb128(we can always fix bugs later)16:41
Laneywhat's the recommended api for the location detection bit?16:42
Laneyqtmobility?16:42
kenvandineseb128, you can just ack it16:42
kenvandineLaney, i think it's qtlocation now16:42
kenvandinebut i haven't used it16:42
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Laneyok16:42
Laneynot just hitting the geolookup web service then ;-)16:43
seb128Laney: qtlocation indeed, backend work is almost done, see https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/platform-api/add-location-service-api-take-2/+merge/17345716:43
Laneyok16:44
LaneyI hope it works on the desktop16:44
Laneyhate having to build on armhf16:44
seb128yeah, me too16:44
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seb128laney, I still have https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/storage-store-sorting/+merge/176429 up for review if you feel like doing an easy one ;-)17:00
Laneyseb128: yeah, can do17:02
seb128Laney: thanks17:02
seb128laney: I just approved your datetime, great work ;-)17:02
seb128next on my list is the language one17:02
seb128review list that's it17:02
Laneythanks17:03
Laneyseems alm still didn't land17:04
seb128:-(17:04
Laneysabdfl http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013/public/content/video17:08
seb128laney: laggy here :/17:10
Laney:(17:11
Laneyworks quite fine for me17:11
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kenvandinefginther, can you look at my CI failures for https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/libpam-freerdp/bootstrap/+merge/17675118:17
kenvandinethe thin-client stack shouldn't be building for quantal CI and it's using some old config, nesting the debian dir18:18
kenvandinewe've had CI succeed before... since inlining the packaging18:18
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fgintherkenvandine, sorry, got wormholed.19:54
fgintherkenvandine, I'll get to it soon19:54
kenvandinefginther, thx... the branch has merged19:55
kenvandinebut CI failed with the merge problem19:55
robrukenvandine, can you redeploy the misc stack from -config trunk? I can't do it because I'm not in ~system-settings-touch20:33
kenvandinerobru, i just added you20:35
robrukenvandine, ah thanks20:35
robruI'll deploy then20:36
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mptLaney, Title Case for the top-level categories (e.g. Time & Date), Sentence case for everything lower (e.g. Time zone)21:05
czajkowskimpt: boo21:09
mptYou can't scare me, czajkowski, you're too far away.21:09
czajkowskimpt: did you like your M&Ms21:09
mptczajkowski, you were here???21:10
czajkowskiI was21:11
czajkowskididnt evan tel you they were from me :(21:11
czajkowskimpt: there was even cake!21:12
mptDrat and tarnation21:12
mptczajkowski, they melted slightly against my screen.21:12
czajkowski:o21:13
czajkowskiwe had yummy carrot cake from Kondor  & Cook, it said Thank you - was for wgrant and stevenk21:14
mptSo that's what happens when I go into a meeting room to work in peace and quiet. I miss out on carrot cake.21:15
czajkowskiyou snooze you lose21:17
czajkowskiI sent M&Ms down to you21:17
czajkowskiand you let them melt!21:18
mlankhorstO_O21:18
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pozhi, anyone know how to change the transparency of unity dash with out unity tweek utility or compiz config22:51
poz?22:51
sarnoldpoz: check this out: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ubuntu-qa-tools/master/view/head:/vm-tools/uvt#L223322:57
pozthanks sarnold, i will take a look23:03
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