| jussi | I think its minorly strange that canonical is going after the phone market, when the other big companies in that market are now heading in different directions - google/motorola's glass, LG have just registered a trademark for glass etc etc. Canonical don't seem to be introducing much "new", apart from maybe the convergence "my phone is a laptop" story. Anyone got thoughts? | 06:03 |
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| syn-ack | jussi++ | 06:04 |
| AlanBell | well I think glass is silly | 07:08 |
| AlanBell | there is a lack of market focus from Canonical I think | 07:09 |
| syn-ack | There is a general lack of focus, all around. There has been for years | 07:12 |
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| DJones | Possibly its just trying to have something that differentiates a product from everybody else, I keep reading that traditional desktops are a reducing market, tablets themselves are dominated by Apple & Android, phones are getting bigger bridging the gap between phone and tablet to the point where they seem too big to be comfortable to use as a phone but too small to use as a tablet, the Edge seems a bit different in that with the addition ... | 09:03 |
| DJones | ... of a bluetooth keyboard/mouse & a cable to connect to a monitor in theory you get the 'best' of both worlds | 09:04 |
| DJones | I know there are phones that plug into a tablet casing, but even then you don't have a keyboard/mouse with having to get them | 09:05 |
| jussi | DJones: yeah, true words. I guess this whole HW thing is more about market measurement than anything else | 09:48 |
| k1l_ | i think the dock-mode is some part of the future. motorola tried it before but they didnt have a proper desktop and the ARM wasnt powerfull enough. with a ARM 4core and 4gb ram and 128gb storage that equals most laptops. | 09:50 |
| DJones | One thing I was wondering about the Edge was what the battery life would be like if you're using it as a desktop machine for a couple of hours, would you need to have it connected to a mains supply and secondly if you have it mains powered how well would the heat disapate, my samsung phone heats up if its on charge | 09:54 |
| k1l_ | i asked if they consider induction for charging (like the nexus4 and nokias and the old hp/palm) but they didnt. | 09:56 |
| DJones | To me, that would be more of a gimick rather than something particularly useful, its only really useful if you have a fixed workplace, if you're moving round and need to charge its easier to just carry a cable than the induction pads (looking at size anyway), if you're in the car you're more likely to have the phone in a cradle which is simpler to connect to a cable (or have to buy a cradle with built in induction charging), I charge my ... | 10:04 |
| DJones | ... phone overnight on the bedside cabinet, so having an induction charger there would work, but then if I wanted to use the phone as the desktop without power dropping I'd then need to move the charger or have multiple chargers and I can't see the chargers being as cheap as a £1 as the cables are now | 10:04 |
| k1l_ | yes. a cable always works :) since you need to put some cable in for the dockmode it could be charged through this anyway. and since it uses some power that would make sense. | 10:06 |
| k1l_ | but i do like that i dont have to put a cable into it when charging it on the induction pad. i didnt think it would benefit but since i got induction on my hp touchpad tablet and the nexus4 i didnt put a cable into it since ages, and i am glad :) | 10:08 |
| DJones | I've never looked at induction charging, presumably different manufacturers/devices potentially could have different charging rates or is there an industry standard | 10:09 |
| DJones | I just have visions of putting a device on one pad & it charging and a 2nd pad and it burning out through charging at too high a rate (or not charging due to too low a rate) | 10:10 |
| DJones | Just looking at the funding campaign it seems to have stalled after the initial 24 hours | 10:13 |
| AlanBell | new prices seem to have got it going again a bit | 11:03 |
| DJones | Sure has, thats gone up about $500K in the last hour | 11:07 |
| AlanBell | I think there is a chance they will get above the biggest ever crowdfunding total | 11:09 |
| k1l_ | http://korczynskij.pl/shared/ubuntu/ there you see the beginning of the effect | 11:12 |
| DJones | It wouldn't surprise me if it gets above the $11M level (which I think is just above the previous biggest) but I'm not sure if it'll get to the $32M | 11:12 |
| DJones | I wonder what will happen if its at $31.5M in the last hour, it might be tempting to somebody (not necessarily Mark) to put the rest of the funding in so that the project could be considered a success | 11:15 |
| AlanBell | DJones: tempting to indiegogo if it gets to $31M | 11:37 |
| AlanBell | they have 1.28M commission to protect | 11:38 |
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| jussi | and we are over 4 million... | 12:33 |
| jussi | I like the idea of putting all those different closely priced perks up. it makes people want to make a decision now to save the little bit extra. | 12:34 |
| jussi | mind, the people who paid 830 must be feeling a bit pissed off... | 12:35 |
| k1l_ | jussi: i think i t says thex get a refund | 12:35 |
| jussi | k1l_: ahh, yes, so it does | 12:36 |
| jussi | but, they dont get a refund untill after the event, so those extra bits still go towards the total | 12:37 |
| jussi | :P | 12:37 |
| Daekdroom | Some of the involved people could refuse getting it back. | 12:40 |
| Daekdroom | So it can, you know, go towards the development | 12:40 |
| jussi | Daekdroom: yes, that is mentioned there | 12:40 |
| Daekdroom | It didn't seem to be. | 12:41 |
| jussi | Daekdroom: If you’re happy with the amount you contributed, you can opt out of this refund by emailing us at indiegogoinfo@canonical.com. | 12:47 |
| Daekdroom | It's an issue I have regarding patience to read stuff. | 12:48 |
| Daekdroom | (kinda harmful when you're graduating in Philosophy, tbh) | 12:48 |
| jussi | haha | 12:48 |
| DJones | Bit of a different take on the Edge & its funding http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2013/07/24/ubuntu-edge-the-begging-bowls-not-big-enough/ | 15:46 |
| AlanBell | interesting | 15:49 |
| AlanBell | it isn't a begging bowl as such, it is pre-orders | 15:49 |
| AlanBell | however committing to not make any more means it is a dead end | 15:49 |
| AlanBell | and they are saying it is a breakeven pricing strategy | 15:50 |
| AlanBell | in fact they are saying that they need more than $625 per handset and they haven't accounted for tax | 15:50 |
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