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inetprogood morning05:31
inetproMaaz: tell kilos good morning05:32
Maazinetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode05:32
superflyMorning inetpro 05:44
inetprohi superfly05:44
superflyIn early this morning, inetpro05:51
inetproI'm trying :-)05:52
inetproand I don't always remember to come here first05:53
Kilosmorning superfly inetpro and others06:30
not_foundI am others06:31
not_foundhello uncle Kilos 06:31
not_foundand superfly 06:32
not_foundand inetpro 06:32
not_foundand others06:32
Kiloshello not_found 06:32
Kiloshehe06:32
Kilosians mom had her gmail account hacked into yesterday and lotsa bad links sent to all her contacts06:39
Kilosevil swines06:39
inetprogood morning not_found06:51
not_foundsucks uncle Kilos ... ubuntiforums still down after the hack too06:52
Kilosits time someone started fighting back at these criminals06:53
Kilostraceback trackback sugar plum06:54
not_foundif it was easy...06:59
Kiloshave you looked at sugarplum not_found ?06:59
not_foundnope07:00
Kilosits in the repos07:00
Kilosanti spam thing that fights back07:00
not_foundand its purpose?07:00
not_foundah... 07:01
not_foundin a fight against spam you can only loose07:01
KilosSugarplum is an automated spam-poisoner. Its purpose is to feed realistic07:01
Kilosand enticing, but totally useless or hazardous data to wandering address07:01
Kilosharvesters such as EmailSiphon, Cherry Picker, etc.  The idea is to so07:01
Kiloscontaminate spammers' databases as to require that they be discarded,07:01
Kilosor at least that all data retrieved from your site (including actual07:01
Kilosemail addresses) be removed.07:01
not_foundnever going to happen... mass spammers mail hundreds of thousands of address each day and can re-create and get fresh databases daily I would wager07:02
Kilossorry for the spam07:02
Kilosshe is getting mail from her customers now asking whats going on07:04
Kilosthats bad for business i think07:06
ThatGraemeGuymorning07:15
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 07:25
Kiloshi psyatw Xethron 08:13
psyatwhi Kilos08:13
psyatwhi Xethron08:14
inetpronoddy: is www.info.gov.za up?08:39
inetprooops08:39
tonberryE352looks fine to me08:40
tonberryE352well ok, looks up08:40
tonberryE352site could use some more prettyness08:40
* inetpro talking to noddy when I meant Maaz08:40
inetprotonberryE352: thanks08:40
inetprotonberryE352: guys are busy revamping it08:41
Kiloslol inetpro email addy available if you need it08:44
Kiloshi tonberryE352 08:45
inetproKilos: ja thanks08:45
Kiloshaha08:45
Kiloshmm... gmail woes09:31
Kiloshttp://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/02/how-to-stop-your-gmail-account-being-hacked/09:31
inetproKilos: where most people fail horribly is at number 409:36
inetpro Choose a unique, hard-to-crack password09:36
inetproand it's no so much about hard-to-crack as it is about unique09:37
Kiloshehe i think mine is good09:37
inetprounique means you do not use the password anywhere else09:38
Kilosnee man i can only remember one password09:38
inetprohaha you see, there's the first problem09:39
Kiloslol09:39
inetpromany sites are not protecting your password properly, so they find your password somewhere else09:39
Kilosif you have different passwords for everything you even forget which one goes where09:39
magespawngood morning09:45
Kilosohi magespawn 09:45
magespawnkeep a password book Kilos 09:45
Kiloseish09:45
Kiloswill worry about that when i get hacked09:46
Kiloshi Squirm 09:46
Squirmhello09:48
magespawnKilos, who does sugarplum? i have found it in the repo but there does not seem to be a website09:49
Kilosive hunted magespawn but cant find man pages or any how to anywhere09:50
Kiloshi mazal 09:50
Squirmfor the life of me I can't figure out how to connect a switch to my RPi09:50
magespawnhi Squirm 09:50
KilosRPi??09:50
mazalMorning all09:50
magespawnhi mazal 09:50
mazalHow's everyone ?09:50
magespawnRaspberry Pi09:50
Kiloscold09:50
Kilosah09:50
Kiloscome on summer come on09:51
magespawnnice and sunny, cool but nice09:51
Kilosbest thing about mtn09:51
magespawnSquirm, does it not have ethernet?09:51
magespawnhere is the ubuntu page http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/misc/sugarplum09:53
Kilosty09:53
Kilosoh ya been there but cant find a how to09:54
Kilosor an open with09:55
magespawnnot that there is much more info there09:55
magespawnhere is some more info http://manned.org/poison/2f29915f09:56
magespawnhttp://manned.org/browse/ubuntu-raring/sugarplum/0.9.10-17.209:57
Kilosthe problem i see is that it might hit the person that spammed you but not being guilty themselves09:59
Kilosas in they might have been 50th down the line10:00
Kilosits getting to the original guilty person that will be tough10:00
magespawni think that program only creates fake email address that it then gives to the harvesting programs, which are only run by spammers10:05
magespawni think the theory is to fill the spammers db with addresses that are fake and therefore worthless10:06
Kilosah10:06
Kilossigh i dont have permission to read /usr/share/doc/sugarplum/README.gz10:07
magespawnthey get less than 1% return anyway, so if 50% or more of the addresses are returning nothing that will drop10:07
Kilosmaybe i can chown that one file10:08
magespawnshould be able to or sudo maybe? not sure10:08
Kilosonce sugarplum is installed you dont know if its running or what10:09
Kilosah10:11
Kilosyou copy the debian one to desktop then double click it10:11
Kilosand it opens with text editor10:11
Squirmmagespawn: it has ethernet10:12
Squirmbut wrong type of switch10:12
Squirm:P10:12
Squirmtalking about adding it to the GPIO10:12
Kiloshmm lotsa info on the readme10:16
KilosEncode the harvester's IP address in teergrube (tarpit) addresses,10:17
Kilosto identify where they came from.10:17
KilosSymmetria, how do i unsubscribe from rpd-request@afrinic.net10:26
Kilosno unsubscribe link at the bottom10:26
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s23lUKIflK10:28
Kilostheres the story on how and what sugarplum does10:28
Kilosi like the part where it gets spammers to spam each other10:29
Kilosoh i found the unsubscribe at the top of the mail10:53
Kilosdomdonner10:53
magespawnlol11:00
magespawnSquirm, GPIO?11:00
inetpronot_found: how do you deal with the VAT issues if the Edge goes ahead?11:02
superflymagespawn: General Purpose Input Output11:07
Vince_0Kilos! You wouldn't happen to know how legal it is to terminate international callers to ZA PSTN over the Internet?11:47
Kilosnope sorry11:47
Kiloswho is ZA PSTN11:47
Vince_0ah, saw some mention of a Kilos on the MyBB VoIP forums11:48
Kilosno im the dumb one11:48
Vince_0"South Africa Public Service Telephone Network"11:48
Vince_0ha11:48
Kiloshe just stole my nick11:48
Vince_0oow11:51
magespawnty superfly 12:11
not_foundinetpro, I live in a muslim country... what is tax?12:15
inetprohmm... 12:16
not_foundthe guys in EU might have an issue however12:16
inetpronot_found: yep, and for that reason I think we see the $32M target being reached12:17
inetproand I don't think it's only the EU12:17
inetprohow does it work here in za land?12:18
inetpros/we see/we will not see/12:18
inetpronot_found: are the moneys subtracted from your account already?12:20
inetproor do they only subtract when it gets shipped?12:20
mazalBye everyone , have a nice evening12:44
Dreenhizit b's n g's13:37
Kilosyo Dreen 13:37
not_foundinetpro, AFAIK it is blocked somehow... but I don't think it has gone off... I used Paypal (not sure there was a choice)13:55
not_foundnew lower pledge amounts... get it while its hot!!!!13:56
Kiloshi Banlam bakuman lewe julle nog14:09
Kiloshi Kerbero 14:09
Kilosyo koiosify 14:18
koiosifyhi there, repaired the bouncer again  :|14:19
Kilosyay14:20
Kiloswb14:20
koiosifythanks :D14:22
KilosMaaz, ubuntu releases14:30
Maaz4.10 (Warty Warthog), 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog), 5.10 (Breezy Badger), 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake), 6.10 (Edgy Eft), 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron), 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope), 9.10 (Karmic Koala), 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx), 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat), 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot), 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin)14:30
Maaz12.10 (Quantal Qu14:30
Kilosoh my14:30
KilosMaaz: ubuntu releases15:46
Maaz4.10-Warty Warthog 5.04-Hoary Hedgehog 5.10-Breezy Badger 6.04-Dapper Drake 6.10-Edgy Eft 7.04-Feisty Fawn 7.10-Gutsy Gibbon 8.04-Hardy Heron 8.10-Intrepid Ibex 9.04-Jaunty Jackalope 9.10-Karmic Koala 10.04-Lucid Lynx 10.10-Maverick Meerkat 11.04-Natty Narwhal 11.10-Oneiric Ocelot 12.04-Precise Pangolin 12.10-Quantal Quetzel 13.04-Raring Ringtail15:46
Kilosinetpro: is dit ok so?15:46
Kilosoh i added the salamander as well15:57
Kiloshi kbmonkey check how small the room has got15:58
Georgllol16:18
Georglwhere did everybody go?16:18
Kilosi dunno16:19
Kilosi was changing from unity to kde and when i got here they were all gone16:20
Georgllol16:20
Kilosoh my net sick still16:21
Georglthey coming back16:21
Georglthe list is growing16:21
Kilosyay16:21
Kilosi get worried when we get small like that, just now theres no one to help me16:22
Georgltrue that16:22
Kilosuseless getting to #ubuntu i cant keep up there16:23
Kiloswb mage16:40
Kilosai!16:41
magedroidhey kilos16:41
Kilos8ta is sending a tech to come see why my connection is slow16:42
Kiloshe will fone and make an appointment16:42
Kiloshehe16:42
Kiloshi cocooncrash all good by you?16:44
magedroidyou famous, ne?16:56
Kiloshehe no man its the nagging16:59
magedroidso infamous then?17:02
Kiloshaha17:03
Kiloshave you reinstalled kubuntu?17:03
Kilosquassel17:03
magedroidno i have left a pc on at the shop with xchat open17:04
Kilosah17:05
magedroidthere was no time today, also going to pretty busy over the next couple of days17:07
Kilosai!17:08
magedroidone of those things i suppose17:08
Kilosyeah life happens17:08
Kilosi got a stupid 13.04 install that boots to a blank pink screen17:09
Kiloswanna try do update/upgrade from cli if i can stay awake17:10
Kilosmethinks its something to do with graphics17:10
Kiloshaha new uk prince gonna be teased at school17:24
Kilosgeorge alexander louis17:24
Kilosgal17:24
Kiloskoiosify: does that bouncer remember the logs no matter how long you are offline17:37
not_foundgood night you fine people17:45
Kiloshi smile4ever 18:01
magedroidKilos the bouncer will keeps logs as long as it is online18:06
Kiloswhere does it go online from here or is it anouther online goodie18:07
Kiloshttp://znc.in18:07
Kilosanother18:07
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:24
smile4everbye! :)18:32

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