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jribRaveYoda: pastebin00:00
RaveYodajrib,  I seriously don't know.00:00
jribRaveYoda: remove "interesting" from my question00:00
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RaveYodajrib, I can't say so. But here is the thing, when this happened with virtualbox I did edit the dpkg file to no longer have the virtualbox listed in it. But I KNOW i only removed the vbox entry00:02
xanguaWhere is the graphic of ubuntu edge¿00:02
jribRaveYoda: :/00:02
rannongaxangua, what?00:02
RaveYodajrib, and even then, removing the vbox entry shouldn't affect wicd for instance00:03
jribRaveYoda: what exactly did you do to remove the vbox entry?00:03
RaveYodajrib, I went in to the dpkg file; found vboxl deleted it and then restarted my system00:04
jribRaveYoda: define "the dpkg file"00:04
RaveYodajrib, That's what it's called. dpkg. -shrugs- I don't even  recall it's exact location00:05
Caseyis 8GB of DDR3 ram "overkill" for a linux fileserver? roughly 20-25 users accessing data, maybe a total of 10 users at once. Data is stretched over 2, 2TB raid1 drives on a raid controller.00:05
RaveYodajrib, I think it was in /usr/share00:05
RaveYodajrib, brb00:05
CaseyCPU is a AMD 550 BE dual-core 3.1GHZ 6MB L3 cache00:05
CheckDavid_I installed ubuntu on Virtual box, and I wonder why it starts up on TTY00:07
CheckDavid_It's like, command line stuff. I don't know much about this to be honest.00:07
Ben64maybe you installed ubuntu server00:07
CaseyCheckDavid: sounds like Ubuntu Server.00:08
CaseyCheckDavid: if you installed Server edition, you can get gui by doing these simple command lines.....00:08
CaseyCheckDavid:    sudo apt-get update00:09
CaseyCheckDavid: then input password and let it run. Next command, sudo apt-get upgrade               then let those install. Lastly,   sudo apt-get install Ubuntu-desktop00:10
CheckDavid_Oh, how do I know if it is server?00:10
geniiFirst check that you didn't get dumped into a root recovery console00:10
CheckDavid_The name of the iso is ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso00:10
Ben64then thats not server00:10
CaseyCheckDavid: look at the file you downloaded...00:11
CaseyCheckDavid: that is not server,00:11
Caseyyeah Ben64: said it00:11
rannongais that the right architechure?00:11
geniiYou might either be in: grub prompt  or: root recovery prompt00:11
CheckDavid_So, what do I do exactly'00:11
Ben64CheckDavid_: tell us exactly what is on the screen00:11
RaveYodajrib, back00:12
RaveYodajrib, Anyway, this also affects Ubuntu Builder00:12
CheckDavid_Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS d-Virtuabox tty100:12
CheckDavid_d-Virtualbox login:00:12
jribRaveYoda: my guess is it is because of your manual edits to some file that you don't know the location of00:12
jribRaveYoda: especially if this is happening with multiple unrelated packages00:13
Ben64CheckDavid_: log in00:13
troulouliou_devhi is mir only for unity?00:13
CheckDavid_Done00:13
RaveYodajrib, Yes, my thoughts too. The issue is how to fix this00:13
CheckDavid_what do I do after logging in?00:13
jribRaveYoda: step 1) figure out what file you edited00:13
rannongaDavid, are you still at the terminal?00:14
energizerI'm trying to shrink a partition in Gparted to install a new distro. Can someone help me walk through the gparted configuration?00:14
Ben64RaveYoda: step 2) don't edit random files again if you don't know what they do00:14
rannongasure, energizer00:14
CheckDavid_rannonga, yes00:14
Ben64CheckDavid_: sudo service lightdm start00:14
RaveYodajrib, Yes, well, this was through a tut00:15
CheckDavid_Ben64, but why this happens?00:15
RaveYodajrib, I just followed it...blindly....00:15
rannongaenergizer, what is the filetype?00:15
jribRaveYoda: that's a good start, find the tut.  Or check your history00:15
Ben64CheckDavid_: don't know, we don't really have any details from you00:15
wilee-nileeenergizer, Take a screenshot of gparted and put it in a imagebin.00:15
RaveYodajrib, Heh...heh...the history is cleaned when ff stops00:16
CheckDavid_I just installed Ubuntu on a VirtualBox00:16
rannongafinal fantasy?00:16
CheckDavid_What other details are there? Hardware specs Ben64 ?00:16
jribRaveYoda: command line history00:16
saiarcot895troulouliou_dev: no, mir can run on unity any other popular DEs00:16
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rannongayeah are you sure its i386?00:17
Ben64CheckDavid_: how you installed, what you did during install, after install, hardware specs sure00:17
rannongayour computer?00:17
saiarcot895!mir | troulouliou_dev00:17
CheckDavid_I may have a 64 bit machine, you think that is a problem?00:17
ubottutroulouliou_dev: Mir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir00:17
Caseyanyone know why Ubuntu will only allow my nic card to connect at 10/100 and not 1000? cable, router, and nic all support 1000mbps . I go into network tools and it shows "link speed: not available00:18
rannongadavid, yeah, if you have a 64 bit machine should use the other architecture00:18
RaveYodajrib, well...i'll be here for a while00:18
CheckDavid_http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ubuntu-on-VirtualBox <-- I just followed this00:18
rannongaare you on windows atm?00:18
RaveYodajrib, actually, it wasnt through cli00:18
troulouliou_devsaiarcot895, but all the de needto be patched for mir no?00:18
troulouliou_devsaiarcot895, as for wayland00:19
Caseyrannonga: but do you really think that would have to do with him not getting a GUI?00:19
CheckDavid_Yes I am rannonga00:19
rannongai dont know00:19
RaveYodajrib, i gksud mucommander then found the file00:19
CheckDavid_I thought 32 bit would work fine.00:19
energizerwilee-nilee: im running gparted live00:19
rannongait should00:19
CheckDavid_So 32 bit has problems working on 64?00:19
rannongano00:19
CheckDavid_Oh, I am completely lost.00:19
RaveYodajrib, also, i found A dpkg folder in /etc00:19
Ben64CheckDavid_: did you try what i suggested yet00:20
CheckDavid_Tried so many things today to get Ubuntu to work.00:20
wilee-nileeenergizer, hit the prtsc button and put the image in a imagebin.00:20
rannongaare you sure you actually have a window manager?00:20
rannongadavid, ?00:20
saiarcot895troulouliou_dev: I don't know about any patches needed for Mir to run on other DE's; according to some videos, Mir runs on KDE, LXDE, etc.00:20
CheckDavid_Ben64, May you remind of of your last suggestion please?00:20
wilee-nilee!imagebin | energizer00:20
ubottuenergizer: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.00:20
Ben64CheckDavid_: sudo service lightdm start00:21
CaseyCheckDavid_: is this a clean install?00:21
OerHekssaiarcot895, not on KDE, i am sure00:21
wilee-nileeenergizer, I don't like to help in these circumstances without seeing a pic myself.00:21
saiarcot895OerHeks and troulouliou_dev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h0m-ZjPxe800:21
CheckDavid_Ben64, oh yes I did, it just listed a lot of stuff, says ok to all, nothing more.00:21
rannongathen restart?00:21
saiarcot895OerHeks: at least, according to Canonical00:21
Ben64CheckDavid_: can you pastebin it, or screenshot00:21
CheckDavid_Casey, what does it mean, clean install?00:21
CheckDavid_How do I select it ?00:22
CheckDavid_Would be nice if I could pastebin00:22
rannongalol yeah00:22
CaseyCheckDavid_: Did you just install this and nothing more, ie no apps installed, updates, etc..00:22
energizerwilee-nilee: so apparently gparted live doesnt access my internet connection (im doing irc on another comp). im going to take a picture with my phone.00:22
rannongaoh a live cd?00:22
atifearIf I have a radeon 4870 what is the best distro to play games on steam?00:22
rannongaare you dual booting?00:22
wilee-nileeenergizer, Ah a gparted only boot, I think it does have a browser but yeah not as easy as  live ubuntu.00:22
CheckDavid_No, nothing more Casey00:23
Ben64CheckDavid_: sudo service lightdm start | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us00:23
rannongaDavid, if all else fails i would suggest reinstalling00:23
wilee-nileeCheckDavid_, Install pastebinit and you can run  command | pastebunit and you will get the url to it00:23
wilee-nileecommand | pastebinit*00:24
CaseyCheckDavid_: So instead of trying to troubleshoot the issue, try another fresh install, this time with a 64-bit. I have it on my win7 laptop in vbox and works perfect. Sounds like a bad install or the wrong architecture. it'll save you more time.00:24
rannongayeah whats your ram amount?00:24
energizerwilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/e694SId.jpg00:25
CheckDavid_Casey, maybe I will try that. Ben64 what do you think about this suggestion?00:25
Ben64CheckDavid_: go for it00:25
rannongaor just go into my computer and right click and select properties, it should tell you the architecture00:25
CheckDavid_Also Ben64 I lost access to the console after your command00:25
CheckDavid_So it lists that stuff, and then it sort of crashes00:25
CheckDavid_NOt sure, just can't type anything00:25
Caseycheckdavid_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=lts&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc is the direct download from ubuntu's website.00:26
wilee-nileeenergizer, So you want to shrink the sdb2?00:26
energizerwilee-nilee: ya00:26
rannongaenergizer, you should be able to just click on the partition and then select resize00:27
rannongafrom the menu00:27
CheckDavid_I am downloading already Casey , thanks00:27
CaseyCheckDavid_: No problem00:28
energizerwilee-nilee: rannonga ok clicked resize sdb2 and a window appears. i type 10000 into the "Free space following"?00:28
wilee-nileeenergizer, Cool, so as of now you have 3 primary partitions you are only allowed 4 at the max, so we want to get an extended in there, in which you can put multiple logicals in for future fun. So you you will at this point right click the sdb2 then resize and make it the size you want.00:28
Caseyanyone know why Ubuntu will only allow my nic card to connect at 10/100 and not 1000? cable, router, and nic all support 1000mbps . I go into network tools and it shows "link speed: not available00:28
rannongaenergizer, yeah that should be k00:29
wilee-nileeenergizer, Another key thing with partitions is that you want them to go from left to right, up numerically in order.00:29
OerHeksCasey, open terminal: lspci # and search the forums with the 8 digit hex number, if there is a known bug, you will find it.00:30
energizerwilee-nilee: what do you mean00:30
wilee-nileeenergizer, That resize has a slider.00:30
OerHekslspci # and search for your NIC first offcourse00:30
wilee-nileeenergizer, What do I mean where, I mentioned several things, but the resize has a slider to make it easiest.00:31
CheckDavid_I wonder if this is really somethign reasonable to do. Changing from 32 to 64 I mean.00:31
energizerwilee-nilee: ok and then i press apply?00:31
CheckDavid_I thought there was backward compatibility, if this is a correct term.00:31
rannongacheck, it might just have been a bad install00:31
rannongacheck, you probably didn't actually need to download the 64bit00:31
OerHeksCheckDavid_, a 32 bit VM should run fine on 64 bit host00:31
rannongaenergizer, yes00:32
CheckDavid_What about a Liveusb 32bits on a 64 bit machine?00:32
wilee-nileeenergizer, Yeah if you have it set to the new size you want hit the green check in the top panel.00:32
rannongacheck, it just limits the ram usage00:32
RaveYodajrib, I found the file00:32
jribRaveYoda: sorry, gonna go play some rball00:32
RaveYodajrib, It's in /var/lib/dpkg/status00:32
RaveYodajrib, ohh00:33
RaveYodajrib, T.T00:33
jribRaveYoda: you should have status-old though.  compare for significant differences.00:33
energizerwilee-nilee: ok00:33
RaveYodajrib, Willco00:33
energizerwilee-nilee: i was having some trouble doing this while booted from sdb. is that normally the case? its working much easier now thatt im in the gparted live boot.00:34
wilee-nileeenergizer, It may take a little while and you will have an unallocated space. Yes you can not resize a mounted partition.00:34
CheckDavid_Is the thing I was getting called a TTY console?00:34
sam113101how do I change the font size of everything?00:34
rannongawhy David?00:34
wilee-nileeenergizer, In windows you can but not in linux in general.00:35
CheckDavid_rannonga, I just want to know how to call it.00:35
dysingerIs there an easy way to debootstrap & then apt-get upgrade at the same time? debootstrap by itself results in an outdated distro.00:35
rannongayeah i think so00:35
energizerwilee-nilee: ok and then if i want to put a new distro, ext4 should work for any linux?00:35
CheckDavid_What else would u call it rannonga ?00:35
rannongaDavid, youre right00:35
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CheckDavid_OH ok.00:36
rannongaenergizer, yeah just mount it as root partition00:36
wilee-nileeenergizer, A ext4 yes, however we want to change what you have a bit so you have the correct setup for more partitions and have them in numerical order. So I can tell you now or when it has resized your choice.00:36
wilee-nileerannonga, I they put a partiton in the unallocated space they will have sdb4 before the sdb3 swap that is not good.00:37
wilee-nileeIf*00:38
rannongayeah should be in order00:38
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wilee-nileerannonga, Cool just wanted to be sure we are on the same page.00:38
energizerwilee-nilee:  finished it. restarted into ubuntu, opened gparted (or is that a mistake)00:39
CheckDavid_Well, I will attempt once more to install ubuntu on usb drive00:39
energizeri have sdb1 sdb2 unallocated sdb300:40
CheckDavid_This time with 64 bit, and I will format the USB drive, maybe it can do something good?00:40
rannongacheck, i'm slightly confused isnt this a vm?00:40
CheckDavid_rannonga, it's only a VM because all else failed :(00:40
rannongaoh00:40
wilee-nileeenergizer, That is okay, so what we want to do is remove the swap, and put a extended in all that space, then a logical ext4 and the swap afterward so you are in numerical order. This extended will allow you to load many more logicals if you want to add even more OS.00:40
wilee-nileeenergizer, You will have to turn the swap off to remove it.00:41
energizerwilee-nilee: ok i think im following you.00:42
rannongai would just reboot into the gparted live cd and do it from there00:42
wilee-nileeenergizer, Cool the extended is a container for the logicals.00:42
rannongadavid, whats happening?00:42
energizerok im gonna reboot into gparted because it seems like fewer steps00:43
CheckDavid_NOw I am running Universal USB installer rannonga00:43
rannongaDavid, so youre making a live usb now?00:43
CheckDavid_Yes rannonga00:44
CheckDavid_I am feeling kinda desperate =/00:44
rannongadavid, what windows are you running?00:44
wilee-nileeenergizer, Cool feel free to make images if it is helpful.00:44
CheckDavid_That's why I went the VM route.00:44
CheckDavid_rannonga, 700:44
rannongadavid, so it's probably not a problem with secureboot00:44
satellitcan you use ubuntu startup disk creator on ubuntu live CD?00:45
wilee-nileeyes00:45
wilee-nileefor ubuntu iso's00:45
CheckDavid_rannonga, i have no idea what that means00:45
rannongajust some windows crap from windows 800:45
CheckDavid_This is incredibly frustrating.00:46
rannongaDavid, you finished burning the image yet?00:46
CheckDavid_I need to spend so many hours just to know if this will work, and the worsse is that it didn't.00:46
CheckDavid_It's creating the persistent file, which generally takes quite some time.00:46
rannongaDavid, k00:46
rannongaDavid, what happened when you booted into the usb?00:47
energizerhttp://www.imgur.com/XMNlQf9.jpeg00:47
rannongaenergizer, wtf?00:47
CheckDavid_I am kinda of relying on faith for this to work. Could it be because I didn't format my drive before? =/00:47
CheckDavid_Bleh, maybe another failed attempt.00:47
rannonganah it shouldn't be00:47
rannongaenergizer, what was that?00:48
energizerrannonga: oh sorry wrong picture00:48
energizerlol00:48
rannongalol00:48
CheckDavid_rannonga, so most probably it won't work again ?00:48
rannongaDavid, could you actually boot into the usb?00:48
Manolillo_Do you want to watch Online spanish Tv??? visit: www.refectori.com00:48
energizerwhen you said wtf i was worried id accidentally uploaded horseporn or something00:49
rannongalol00:49
pepper_chicofuck, I want to develop in and for an ubuntu edge00:49
IdleOnepepper_chico: no swearing please00:49
energizerwilee-nilee: rannonga anyway heres gparted00:49
energizerhttp://www.imgur.com/152mNbC.jpeg00:49
rannongaso just click on the swap partition and delete it00:50
energizerk00:50
CheckDavid_rannonga, yes I can, but then it gives me kernel panic, or just gives in a screen saying ubuntu forever00:50
rannongaDavid, in your bios how are you booting into it?00:51
CheckDavid_well I chose to boot usb/cd-rom first00:51
CheckDavid_before anything else00:51
CheckDavid_yet it still isn't booting from there00:52
rannongacan you boot anything else from usb?00:52
CheckDavid_So I press escape while booting, and select boot devices, and boot from it.00:52
CheckDavid_rannonga, not sure, why? Didn't try.00:52
pzonedWould anybody have any guess as to why my computer turns on again after shutting down in ubuntu but not in windows?00:52
rannongapzone, restart?00:53
energizernow what00:53
pzonedwhen i shut down it goes off for a second then turns back on00:53
CheckDavid_rannonga, that's all?= well i will get out then to try and run it00:53
rannongaok00:53
rannongaenergizer now create a new partition from you unallocated00:53
rannongayou should be able to select logical or primary select logical00:54
energizerwhat sort of "label" is should it have00:54
energizeroh00:54
energizerwait00:54
lagrecaHi folks, is ubuntu 13.04 as stable as 12.04 LTS for general purpose use?00:54
wilee-nileeA primary wont go in a extended00:54
rannongayeah00:54
energizerrannonga: logical is grayed out00:54
wilee-nileelagreca, Depends on your definition of stable, everyones is different.00:55
energizerso is extended00:55
rannongathats weird00:55
Aprellagreca: I've used both. It's fine. There was an audio issue over HDMI connections when it first came out, but has since been rectified.00:55
rannongawilee, do you know how to create extended partitions from gparted?00:55
wilee-nileeenergizer, Did you run the swap delete?00:55
energizerno just queueueueueued it00:56
lagrecaAprel, is the new unity in ubuntu 13.04 better than in 12.04?00:56
rannongawhat?00:56
energizerill run it?00:56
rannongaoh yeah you should do that00:56
rannongafirst00:56
wilee-nileeenergizer, You have to run it then make the extended in all the unallocated then run it, don't stack up things to run.00:56
energizerok ran it.00:56
lagrecaAprel, I'm having some issues with compiz, chrome and flash videos due to the mesa drivers version in 12.0400:57
energizerprimary is available. logical and extended are both grayed out00:57
AxelayI'm going to say no iagreca. My 13.04 internet keeps cutting out. The signal seems fine, just any connections it has it cuts.00:57
lagrecaAprel, I know that it's ok now with the 13.04, but I'm afraid of LibreOffice 400:57
wilee-nileeenergizer, Are you clicking in the unallocated in the picture and extended is grayed out?00:58
Aprellagreca: Unity is no different to me. There was a lot of press when it came out because it phones home and gives online results, but I've turned that off.00:58
energizerya00:58
rannongathats weird00:58
wilee-nileeenergizer, Lets see a picture of that make sure we can see all of the picture.00:59
NaStYdoGdoes anyone know why after some time I log on ubuntu my /home folder is set to read-only00:59
Aprellagreca: 13.04 might come with newer, updated video drivers. You can check if they resolve a problem you're having in compiz and flash/.01:00
rannongapzone, still there?01:00
lagrecaAprel, I'd like to install some packages from the proposed repository... I'm too anxious to wait for the new raring compatibility stack01:01
lagrecaAprel, do you know how I can install just some selected packages from the proposed repository?01:01
pzonedyea01:01
rannongawhat release are you on?01:02
energizerwilee-nilee: http://www.imgur.com/r9hFUsW.jpeg01:02
pzoned13.0401:02
pzonedit started happening when i swapped my motherboard01:02
pzonedtried stock kernel and am on 3.10.1 right now01:02
meatmanekhey, does anybody know the netboot images are built (i.e. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/13.04/ )01:02
rannongapzone, are you sure you can got from windows?01:02
rannongapzone, do it from windows?01:03
wilee-nileeenergizer, Should not be that way reboot to ubuntu and lets try the gparted there.01:03
pzonedyeah, shutdown and restart works regularly in windows01:03
rannongapzoned, so what exactly happens?01:03
Aprellagreca: I've never done that, but this ubuntu guide should get you on your way. Just adjust references to precise to ringtail https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed01:03
energizerwilee-nilee: i dont really know what ext4 means but it occurs to me that i might be trying to make a second extension to the first fat32 partition, which is illegal. possible?01:04
pzonedthe shutdown command turns it off for a second, but then it boots back up again. I tried playing around with my power management settings in my bios but they don't seem to help.01:04
curatrixshutdown -h now01:05
rannongayeah try that01:05
wilee-nileeenergizer, Is sda a windows 8 setup?01:05
wilee-nileethe sdaHD01:06
energizerno its a media drive (movies etc)01:06
energizerno os on it01:06
rannongawilee, i'm running a dual boot on windows 801:06
curatrixpzoned: it is probably the "wake on lan" function01:07
energizermounted in /media/something01:07
rannongaenergizer, do you have a backup?01:07
wilee-nileeenergizer, The fat32 is a primary, from the last picture it looks like you have chosen the unallocated and the extended is grayed out. YOU would make a extended then put the ext4 inside it and the swap as well.01:07
energizerrannonga: no01:07
rannongaDavid, any success?01:08
pzonedyeah, my machine still turns back on after shutdown -h now01:09
CheckDavidArgh, why won't Ubuntu work? =/ It always gets stuck on the logo screen while trying to boot it. Apparently it is a Kernel Panic01:09
energizerwilee-nilee: i dont totally understand what you just said01:09
CheckDavidwhatever that is or means =/01:09
razzledazzleunetbootin doesn't seem to be working with a Pentium 3 machine, can it be investigated?01:09
wilee-nileeenergizer, No prob, which part or all?01:09
energizerall01:09
AxelayCan anyone explain why 13.04 cuts the internet in intervals? The wireless is connected fine, but it doesnt not go to any website.01:09
AxelaySay I'm watching a 1 hour long youtube video01:10
AxelayIt stops about every 25mins or so01:10
rannongarazzle, what do you mean, how doesn't it work?01:10
wilee-nileeenergizer, So you suggest that the extended we want is a second one to the fat32, however the fat 32 is called a primary partition, primaries, extended ans logicals are three different types.01:10
razzledazzleIIgot disconnected01:10
AprelAxelay: have you been able to verify it's a problem with ubuntu, not the modem or router?01:11
CheckDavidAny clue? =/01:11
pzonedAxelay, I have a wifi card in one machine that will cut out regularly01:11
AxelayYes, it doesnt happen with any other windows systems01:11
pzonedprobably just shoddy drivers01:11
razzledazzleIIwell, on the boot device select, I select my USB drive, nothing happens, PC continues to boot with HD01:11
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rannongaCheck, try using unetbootin01:11
AxelayIncluding the one I'm typing off now.01:11
energizerwilee-nilee: and you're saying the sdb2 ext4 is also a primary?01:11
curatrixpzoned: Look for "wake on lan" in the bios. It could be the cmos has an error so it might even be worth "reset to default" in the bios as well (just for the sake of it)01:11
CheckDavidrannonga, I did twice lol01:11
AxelayThe thing is the netbook is dualbooted with windows and ubuntu. only happens with ubuntu01:12
wilee-nileeenergizer, That make sense, I know it can be confusing. I have seen gparted cough on occasion, so that is why I suggest using ubuntu's or at least a reboot of that one.01:12
razzledazzleIIis my chat visible? :\01:12
rannongathat sounds bad01:12
wilee-nileeenergizer, Yes sdb2 is a primary as well.01:12
rannongarazzle, i can't see you01:12
rannongarazzle, what do you mean by disconnected?01:12
pzonedcuratrix, yeah i've updated and reset my bios twice now, but i'll try disable WoL. Though unfortunately i do use it on occasion.01:12
AxelayI'm the only ubuntu system that connects to the router, and is the only one that it occurs to01:12
rannongai would suggest to download the file seperately from creating a live usb01:12
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CheckDavidI tried twice with unetbootin, then I was told to use Universal USB installer, none worked. I get stuck with kernel panic messages that I only see because I press ctrl alt f1 rannonga01:13
razzledazzleIIno I mean, my other nick got disconnected01:13
wilee-nileerazzledazzleII, If you see it we do.01:13
CheckDavidrannonga, what do you mean by download file seperately?01:13
razzledazzleIIah, good, this nick is not registered so I was wondering01:13
curatrixpzoned: You could cheat to test it and just remove the cable before shutting the system down01:13
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energizerwilee-nilee: rannonga same situation in ubuntu gparted01:14
Ben64CheckDavid: what are you trying to do01:14
wilee-nileeenergizer, Hold on let me reboot from W8 to 13.04, I think you are just not doing something correct, I can look at goarted from there.01:14
CheckDavidBen64 run Ubuntu, as simple as that.01:15
Ben64CheckDavid: how01:15
CheckDavidBen64 No idea, tried many thigns none worked, nwo I don't know what to do.01:15
CheckDavidSo, I am doing nothing =/01:15
razzledazzlemy Ubuntu had got stuck on splash once, it happened I messed around while installing fglrx driver01:15
Ben64CheckDavid: you were talking about vbox before, now you're saying usb, what are you trying to do???01:15
rannongaben, it always seems to say kernel panic01:15
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CheckDavidI am just reporting how my last attempted was another failed one.01:15
CheckDavidCheckDavid> Ben64 run Ubuntu, as simple as that01:15
Ben64run how!? in vbox?! natively?! explain!!01:16
CheckDavidRun man. I just want to run.01:16
rannongaevery way possible apparently01:16
CheckDavidI just want one. I tried all suggestions.01:16
Ben64if you don't want help thats fine01:16
CheckDavidEh ok01:16
razzledazzlewubi?01:16
CheckDavidPeople don't understand that I just want ro run ubuntu :(01:16
energizer1welcome back01:17
razzledazzleCheckDavid, how are you trying to boot it?01:17
wilee-nileeenergizer, I'm back01:17
Ben64you need to explain how you want to "run ubuntu"01:17
energizer1im now back in ubuntu as well (from gparted)01:17
energizer1http://imgur.com/6jdZRX401:17
Ben64its not like photoshop, you can't just "run it"01:17
luwhoinstalling ubuntu server 12.04lts for first time.  I blanked on installing extras like securessh and wamp.  Will I be able to download all of them at once when installation is complete or will I have to download each one individually?01:17
curatrixCheckDavid: Have you got a flash drive with a live image?01:17
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, I already said I am not trying in any way now, I tried a bunc of ways already today none worked, wanna know about all, or just the last one?01:17
CheckDavidcuratrix, yes I do.01:18
curatrixWhat happens when you run it?01:18
razzledazzlewhat kind of config are you using? what's your system spec?01:18
CheckDavidKernel Panic curatrix01:18
razzledazzlehe said it gets stuck in splash01:18
AxelayCan I reiterate my internet problem. Only ubuntu 13.04 does this: It cuts the internet at random periods. Give it about a minute and it works again01:18
curatrixCheckDavid: 32 or 64 bit?01:18
wilee-nileeenergizer, I see what is up now in the create as in the new set it as extended.01:18
CheckDavidcuratrix, I am 6401:18
pzonedcuratrix yeah, turning off WoL solves the issue. Is there any other workaround you know of that would let me keep WoL enabled?01:18
AxelayGive it half a hour and it stops working again01:18
Ben64if the usb isn't working, its probably a bad image or a bad copy to usb01:19
AxelayThis is worst when I'm watching a video over 1 hour01:19
energizer1wilee-nilee: sorry?01:19
wilee-nileeenergizer, YOu were trying to build with the line below file type01:19
CheckDavidI tried Wubi. then I tried 32 bit with Unetbootin, then I tried 32 bit with Universal USB isntaller, then I tried 64 bit with USB installer, then I tried Vbox. All have problems.01:19
luwhoinstalling ubuntu server 12.04lts for first time.  I blanked on installing extras like securessh and wamp.  Will I be able to download all of them at once when installation is complete or will I have to download each one individually?01:19
razzledazzleeven Vbox?01:19
energizer1so how to do it properly?01:20
Ben64sounds like user error or bad disc image01:20
curatrixpzoned: You could get a cheap switch to install next to the PC......turn it off prior to the PC and it will act like a buffer01:20
razzledazzlemaybe try another distro or something CheckDavid01:20
napscAxelay: look in your syslog to get an idea of why it's disconnecting... does it do it hardwired?01:20
CheckDavidYeah, vbox would just load TTY, and then when I tried some command that was given to me, it would stop accepting any further commands. Sort of crash.01:20
pzonedCheckDavid , I generally have had good luck with LiLi http://www.linuxliveusb.com/01:20
curatrixpzoned: switch = router01:20
pzonedcuratrix, hmm... thanks for your help!01:20
CheckDavidIt's so hard to judge between all the suggeestions =/01:20
Axelaynapsc: nah it does it when wireless01:20
wilee-nileeenergizer, http://imagebin.org/26544601:20
AxelayAnd is the only wireless device to do it01:21
wilee-nileeenergizer, YOu want it as it shows there01:21
Aprelluwho: afaik there's no single-package install in ubuntu, but you could probabl find a list of all the packages the cd installs and just sudo apt-get install `the list`01:21
wilee-nileeenergizer, Create as not file tyoe.01:21
AxelayTbh it has started when I upgraded to 13.0401:21
luwhoAprel: Ya thats probably what ill do, thank you01:21
razzledazzleCheckDavid, if you have a good internet connect, its not much of a deal, you could try another distro01:21
razzledazzle*connection01:21
Aprelluwho: np01:21
curatrixafk01:21
CheckDavidIt takes so much time to boot stuff up that don't load =/01:22
razzledazzleCheckDavid, go for Linux Mint, just to test01:22
energizer1i dont know how to get it like that01:22
CheckDavidI already tried 2 USB iso installers.01:22
Axelaynapsc What command do I do to get that?01:22
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, maybe I should do that.01:22
razzledazzleyes CheckDavid, give it a go. Its Ubuntu based, AFAIK.01:23
Ben64not supported here01:23
napsccat /var/log/syslog01:23
curatrixCheckDavid: Get a SSD. My system boots in <10 seconds01:23
CheckDavidMaybe a new laptop you mean curatrix ?01:23
rannongaenergizer, try making the filetype as ext4 first01:23
ItsMeLennyi got an email from ubuntu forums, but i dont even remember signing up to ubuntu forums in the first place01:23
energizer1wilee-nilee: rannonga: doesnt work01:24
rickb__hello.. so i have a dell xps with intel audio and an nvidia gfx card, i have no audio devices when i look in system settings but i can manipulate alsamixer and change the volume. i have no audio via HDMI though. any ideas?01:24
rannongaenergizer, what doesn't?01:24
wilee-nileeenergizer1, Show me a picture again of what you are doing I lost what you had, did you look at mine?01:24
wilee-nileerannonga, Dude I can I take care of this.01:25
wilee-nileecan I01:25
wilee-nileeto many irons in a simple fire01:25
energizer1wilee-nilee: http://imgur.com/2Sp1Odi01:26
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, so trying ubuntu 13 is not a good bet either? Because I already started downloading.01:26
energizer1the logical and extended are still grayed out (ubuntu apparently wont take a screenshot when theres a drop-down open)01:26
razzledazzleCheckDavid, if its already half way, try it. It works better on my netbook than 12.01:26
sandprickleI changed my password, forgot it, changed it back via. Root shell prompt, but am I still screwed if I use ecryptfs?01:26
wilee-nileeenergizer1, The top line where it says primary should be extended the file type is not even relevent at this stage.01:27
Aprelrickb__: click on the speaker in the upper right corner of ubuntu. Click 'Sound Settings...', look for other options in 'play sound through' particularly hdmi01:27
razzledazzleCheckDavid, linuxmint site not loading for me. :|01:27
EatAtJoesIf I donate $20 to ubuntu edge, what do I actually get in return ?01:27
CheckDavidAw01:27
CheckDavidI will be honest. I just need a console instance.01:27
energizer1wilee-nilee: when i click on the drop-down to change from primary to extended, extended is grayed out01:27
caaakeeeybasic question, but im running from a usb, where can i find my hard drive?01:28
razzledazzleEatAtJoes, you expect to get something by "donating"?01:28
CheckDavidBut I would like to switch to linux too. But the console isntance is what I really need. And I will stay up tonight till if I get it if I need to.01:28
wilee-nileeenergizer1, IN the top line where it says create as extended is grayed out?01:29
razzledazzleCheckDavid, then you could try many distros out there, there's CrunchBang, or even lighter versions might download fast like Puppy Linux01:29
wilee-nileecreate as energizer01:29
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energizer1wilee yes01:29
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, I used to go with puppy many years ago, but then they stopped working on my new HP, so I quit.01:29
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EatAtJoesrazzledazzle: So you donate to them, so they can get free phones, and then they sell them and make a profit?01:30
energizer1"primary partition" black01:30
energizer1"logical partition" gray01:30
energizer1"extended partition" gray01:30
razzledazzleCheckDavid, hmm.. I didn't like that feel of Puppy though, I suggested just because you said you wanted a console instance.01:30
wilee-nileeenergizer1, Close that window and show me just gparted,01:30
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energizer1wilee-nilee: http://imgur.com/uoib6AD01:31
EatAtJoesrazzledazzle: It would be cool if I could get a return like an investor, but man, I do want this edge phone to take off.01:31
razzledazzleEatAtJoes, no idea XD I only know when you donate, you don't ask for anything in return01:31
meatmanekI asked this a few minutes ago but nobody answered; trying again in the hopes that someone new knows the answer01:31
meatmanekdoes anybody know the netboot images are built (i.e. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/13.04/ )01:32
razzledazzleEatAtJoes, that would be awesome.01:32
AxelaySo does anyone have any idea why my ubuntu keeps cutting the internet at random intervals. It only happens on this ubuntu computer. All over 4 windows devices work fine.01:32
EatAtJoesrazzledazzle,  sorry. I really didn't know it was a donation when I first asked.01:32
wilee-nileeenergizer1, OKay now I'm seeing efi in sdb1 a efi does not use extended partitions just put the ext4 in and your swap, and when you install the linux you will point the install to that ext401:32
razzledazzleEatAtJoes, I approached you without any idea myself, just considered what donation meant to me.01:32
hewhomustmeat, why do you specifically want to do a netboot install?01:33
meatmanekwe install our servers using netboot01:33
hewhomustoh01:33
wilee-nileeenergizer1, I asked about W8 moriginally due to uefi a gpt partitioning set up I wondered about that.01:33
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, so the official linuxmint is not online you say?01:34
energizer1ok so what do i do wilee-nilee01:34
meatmanekwe're actually using 10.04 (upgrading to something newer is on the horizon but not in short-term plans), and the 10.04 netboot image has an old kernel and kernel modules which don't support aacraid 7xxx series cards01:35
wilee-nileeenergizer1, This an apple computer, or did you use a efi on purpose, I'm not really familiar with efi and gpt, and it looks funky there to me altogether.01:35
razzledazzleCheckDavid, not loading for me, have you tried? http://www.linuxmint.com/01:35
CheckDavidYes it loads for me01:35
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, i was advised to go for linuxmint MATE01:36
CheckDavidWhat do you say razzledazzle ?01:36
wilee-nileeenergizer1, I'm curious about sdb1 being labeled as /boot/efi01:36
razzledazzlethat's good then.01:36
meatmanekI've figured out how to extract the netboot image (it's just an initrd) and rebuild it, but it seems like it may be more than just a matter of replacing the kernel and modules01:36
razzledazzleCheckDavid, I think MATE is a desktop environment, you're doing this for the console so I don't think it would matter much, its decent anyway.01:36
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, no, I also want linux01:37
energizer1wilee-nilee: not apple, newegg hardware; installed ubuntu with the gui as recommended01:37
arashIs the any simple way that let me connect to my l2tp vpn on my win2003 server ?01:37
Morph4mewilee-nilee /boot/efi create by 1 manually or 2 by ubuntu on a UEFI BIOS machine01:37
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, I was just saying that I really needed the console01:37
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razzledazzleCheckDavid, you could see this: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=135464. This page not loading for me either, I have a sucky net connection lol01:38
wilee-nileeenergizer1, a fat32 with /boot/efi is rather strange, it would not be part of a standard install, are we missing some info here like as Morph4me suggests a uefi bios machine a safe boot.01:38
wilee-nileeMorph4me, I know that but thanks.01:38
arashoh I se01:38
Morph4meyw01:38
arashthere are plugins for network manager01:39
razzledazzleCheckDavid, personally I tried cinnamon, it worked fine for me.01:39
CheckDavidThnaks, I will try MATE01:39
CheckDavidAS I was suggested earlier.01:39
bkfitz.01:39
razzledazzleCheckDavid, all the best :D01:40
bkfitzAnyone here that can help me get a wireless printer setup01:40
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, do you know why there are no codecs versions for companies?01:40
bkfitzI've installed the recommended deb driver and went to add network printer, it finds it, then I hit add and it just sits there01:40
razzledazzleCheckDavid, companies? I only know about video/audio codes01:41
razzledazzle*codecs01:41
energizer1wilee-nilee: its a fancy bios on a Gigabyte motherboard, i dont know anything about "safe boot"..01:41
wilee-nileeenergizer1, Did you buy this machine new and if so what was on it?01:41
energizer1built it01:42
energizer1with new parts01:42
wilee-nileeenergizer1, Ah cool well you bought a machine that use a different bios, no biggie it just means building partitions is a bit different. So what is the other OS you want to install.01:43
Morph4megpt is not limited as mbr is in creating primary partitions ...all primary in screen shot > http://i.imgur.com/v6CynqE.png01:43
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energizer1wilee-nilee: arch01:43
wilee-nileeMorph4me, If you know what is up here go for it I have not messed eith uefi and gpt, seems like just a ext4 and swap is needed.01:44
Guest24339Linux n00b here....having issues with restarting my comp, it says I'm not authorized to shut my comp down...???01:44
hewhomustguest, try running sudo reboot from terminal01:45
wilee-nileeenergizer1, Excellent choice, I think Morph4me may be better at this part.01:45
curatrixGuest24339: sudo shutdown -r now01:45
hewhomusthe wants to restart01:45
curatrixhewhomust: Yes thats right    the -r switch sets it to restart01:45
Guest24339Yeah, I did a bunch of updates, and it won't let me restart01:45
curatrixGuest24339: sudo shutdown -r now01:45
wilee-nileeenergizer1, We just want to be sure arch is set to install in  your setup, probably is.01:46
Morph4mewell all i,m saying wilee is that he can leave it as is "primary" no need for extended because his uefi bios is using gpt rules not mbr01:46
matrixa1http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4082556 this needs to happen01:46
Guest24339Sorry....how do I do -r?01:46
hewhomustlol01:46
energizer1wilee-nilee: alright. is there any reason i shouldnt just make another primary and another linux-swap ?01:46
hewhomusttype -r01:46
wilee-nileeMorph4me, Yeah I figured that I just want to be sure is all, thanks.01:47
Morph4meotherwise plz do carry on with him i must check out everything else is A OK01:47
razzledazzleGuest24339, are you able to access the terminal?01:47
Guest24339oh, on the command line?  LOL  (yes, very n00b)01:47
Morph4meyw good night01:47
razzledazzleGuest24339, yep ;D01:47
wilee-nileeenergizer1, No that is what to do, sorry for any confusion, it just took us awhile to get to this being the setup it is.01:47
curatrixGuest24339: You can paste into the terminal with ctrl + shft + v01:47
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, never mind, you have to read the website to understand lol01:47
hewhomustenerg, the only problem is that you're limited to 4 primarys on mbr01:48
hewhomustwhich doesnt apply to you01:48
energizer1so im confused myself. why do i have all these partitions?01:48
razzledazzleCheckDavid, lol okay01:48
wilee-nileeenergizer1, That fat32 was a redflag I saw but did not ask about it I missed any /boot/efi if it was showing in the live gparted, I don't think it was.01:48
energizer1what's the point of it? do i need it?01:49
scott__So, I just tried the -r thing, and it said "Command not found"01:49
hewhomusttry sudo reboot quickly01:49
curatrixscott__:  sudo shutdown -r now01:50
curatrixenter your password for admin and it should reboot01:50
wilee-nileeenergizer1, Not sure, but if you look at morph4me's set up which is basically what you have he has one.01:50
scott__I type in "sudo shutdown"?01:50
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wilee-nileeenergizer1, I believe it is needed, I'm just not up on that stuff.01:50
energizer1morph4me is gone...01:50
scott__"sudo reboot" I mean01:51
energizer1:(01:51
matrixa1scott__, except that turns off the computer01:51
matrixa1yes, sudo reboot01:51
scott__k....brb01:51
hewhomustenergizer, just try creating primary partition for swap and root01:51
hewhomustthen try mount them in the arch install01:52
crankygeekhello room01:52
hewhomusthello greek01:52
roobiswhen does a drive require mounting?01:52
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roobismy flash drive appears without mount command01:53
matrixa1roobis, automount is run upon insertion01:53
hewhomustroobis, if you can access your flash drive dont do anything01:53
scott__sudo reboot worked....thx for the assist everyone01:53
hewhomustnp lol how are you still here?01:54
wilee-nileeenergizer, So really do nothing and go to #archlinux and let them see the last image and know that you have a uefi set up and they can best help you install.01:54
roobisso mount is only used if the drive isnt' auto detected?01:54
hewhomustyeah01:54
matrixa1roobis, but if you have several drives like me, then you might have to mount them separately to view the contents01:54
wilee-nileeenergizer, WE got you to the install stage, they will know whats up in your setup for success. ;)01:54
roobisok, so plugging a second usb would require mount01:54
scott__Guess I'm just quick like that...LOL01:54
matrixa1roobis, no, usb peripherals are automounted01:55
hewhomustno probably not01:55
hewhomustjust if you have another partition you might have to mount it01:55
matrixa1roobis, stationary harddrives eg. windows partitions are not automounted01:55
hewhomustsay on another os01:55
energizer1wilee-nilee: at the moment i dont have a swap partition. should i make an arch partition and then a swap partition before going over there?01:55
hewhomustyeah you should makes it easier01:55
wilee-nileeenergizer, I wouldn't building partitions are part of the install in arch.01:56
hewhomusti've done it and made a swap partition seperately01:56
hewhomustbeforehand01:56
energizer1(but my ubuntu doesnt have access to a swap paritition. isnt that shitty?)01:56
CheckDavidlol my linuxmint download just stopped =/01:57
wilee-nileeenergizer1, You only need one swap arch will build it.01:57
hewhomustnot really just mount it as a swap for both distros01:57
hewhomustsorry not mount it01:57
hewhomustbut yeah it should work for both01:58
wilee-nileeenergizer, Heh, and if you thought this was confusing a arch install will really be a challenge, it is a bit easier now, but it has its pitfalls.01:58
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, I was downloading linuxmint, and apparently it stopped as if it was completed, I got a normal iso in the end, only very small, like 40 Mbs01:59
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energizer1ok so if i go into the arch people, they'll help me produce a partition for arch and another for swap (which will be applicable to both arch and ubuntu). how do i make ubuntu access the swap partition that i make over there01:59
razzledazzleCheckDavid, that's invalid. It has to be around 700 megs01:59
CheckDavidrazzledazzle, it's actually 1 GB =/01:59
Jeeves_Mossis anoyne in here any good with Nagios?  I'm having some config issues01:59
hewhomustenergizer, a swap partition is not mounted if you create it it should work for both01:59
razzledazzlelol01:59
razzledazzlemaybe torrent it02:00
PRabytesad news i just saw02:00
PRabytesure you are all aware of it02:00
PRabytewhile trying to get some help from forums.... well you know the rest02:00
Jeeves_Mossrazzledazzle, and ideas on this Nagios issue?02:01
PRabyteso did anyone claim responsibility yet ?02:01
razzledazzleoops,its 928 MB02:02
wilee-nileeenergizer, The arch guys should get you going fine, The only reason I build partitions ahead of time instead of in a install is when I install windows and don't want a boot partition, and I manually install to that made NTFS.02:02
cfhowlettPRabyte, yes ... it's old news now.  But if you wish to continue this thread, please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks.02:02
PRabyteanyone know how to create an xfs on linux. so i can grab this data off my attached usb ide drive??02:02
PRabyte:|02:03
PRabyteno thanks cfhowlett ill pass02:03
syn-ackPRabyte: use gparted.02:03
razzledazzleJeeves_Moss, seeing it for the first time o.o sorry02:03
cfhowlett!gparted|PRabyte,02:03
ubottuPRabyte,: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php02:03
Phosphate_I've got a 12.10 server that I had to replace the motherboard on. It won't see the new built in NIC (Atheros AR 8161). The nic shows up on lspci -vv and if I boot a clean install on a USB drive the nic works fine. I've deleted /etc/udev/rules.d70-persistent-net.rules but a reboot did not generate a new one. I then copied the rules file from the clean boot to the original instance and it still02:04
Jeeves_Mossrazzledazzle, no worries.  I'm using nConf to try to reduce the admin load, but I can't get the syntax on the args for it02:04
Phosphate_doesnt show up in ifconfig. Any ideas?02:04
PRabytethanks, duh, i forgot, but i was thinking of cmdline utils like xfutils or something along those lines02:04
syn-ackPhosphate_: modprobe the driver02:04
syn-ackar something or another02:04
razzledazzleJeeves_Moss, sounds intriguing! I hope you find your solution soon.02:05
Phosphate_syn-ack: Thanks will check it.02:05
syn-ackPhosphate_: I forget the module's name. you'll be able to find it via ar8161 linux module online02:05
PRabytecfhowlett: yah, just what i thought, didn't see the drive.02:07
PRabytegparted i mean02:07
PRabyteshrugs02:07
Phosphate_syn-ack ath9k maybe?02:07
PRabyteanyone know how to create an xfs on linux. so i can grab this data off my attached usb ide drive??02:07
syn-ackPhosphate_: Sounds about right. Try it. if it doesn't work, the kernel will tell ya.02:07
PRabytethink ill try #linux02:08
PRabytegparted doesnt see it02:08
syn-ackPRabyte: I told you how.02:08
PRabyteopps02:08
PRabytesorry syn-ack ill look up02:08
PRabytesyn-ack: i answered02:09
syn-ackdid you install xfstools?02:09
energizer1thanks for everythingwilee-nilee02:09
PRabytenot yet02:09
PRabytebrb02:09
syn-ackit may not be installed, PRabyte.02:09
PRabytei thought i t was called xfsutils lol02:09
syn-ackSamething02:10
syn-ackI think02:10
PRabytei dont have that in my repo syn-ack02:10
PRabytexfstoos02:10
PRabytexfstools02:10
PRabyteanyone know how to create an xfs on linux. so i can grab this data off my attached usb ide drive??02:10
PRabytesudo apt-get install xfs02:10
PRabytexfs              xfslibs-dev      xfstt02:10
PRabytexfsdump          xfsprogs         xfswitch-plugin02:10
PRabytethats all i have02:10
syn-acklast I remember, it was that. haven't created an XFS partition in years02:10
syn-ackxfsprogs is it02:10
PRabytei do often in freebsd, but this is linux laptop02:11
PRabyteoh ok02:11
PRabytethanks02:11
histo!find xfs | PRabyte02:11
ubottuPRabyte: Found: x11-xfs-utils, xfsdump, xfslibs-dev, xfsprogs, obexfs02:11
PRabytethink i need a reboot after installing xfsprogs, lsusb isnt showing the attached drive02:12
histoPRabyte: the drive showing in lsusb has nothing to do with xfsprogs02:12
PRabytehisto: thats nice, thanks02:12
PRabyteso, think i need a reboot, for xfsprogs to work and see this drive?02:12
histoPRabyte: try looking at the output of dmesg after you plug the drive in02:12
PRabyteah. thanks02:12
PRabytebrb02:12
syn-ackPRabyte: you shouldn't need to reboot for anything02:12
PRabytesorry been working on hpux for a few months a work, has me off gaurd02:13
syn-ackPRabyte: remember, a Good UNIX admin should make a great linux admin, but usually not the other way around.02:15
PRabytewhatever makes you look good syn-ack02:15
syn-ackI never claimed to be a good UNIX admin.02:15
syn-ack:D02:15
napscJeeves_Moss: did you try #nagios02:16
roobishow big does a company have to be to need an admin?02:16
PRabytei guess i should also mention i havent looked much at a terminal other than powerterm on a doze box. cant have my linux laptop connected to the network yet02:16
syn-ackroobis: All it takes is one computer.02:16
PRabyteno tab completion is crazy02:16
roobissyn-ack, ha, a one pc admin?02:17
syn-ackyep02:17
sam113101guys02:18
napscnah, 1 employee & 2 computers...02:18
sam113101I need help02:18
cfhowlett!details|sam02:19
ubottusam: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."02:19
PRabyteif anyone cares to take a peek   paste.ubuntu.com/5906141/02:19
sam113101the font used by gtk 2 is not the same as the font used by gtk 302:19
curatrixsam113101: You can change it if you like02:19
sam113101curatrix: how?02:20
histoPRabyte: so sdb is your usb drive I take it and sdb1 is the partition?02:20
PRabytesounds right02:20
PRabyteits from freebsd server02:20
syn-ackWait02:20
PRabyteso xfsprogs,,,02:20
PRabyteoh ok02:21
syn-ackYou're running XFS on FreeBSD?02:21
PRabytewaits...02:21
syn-acksurely you mean ZFS....02:21
PRabyteit was yes, this is an adapter ide cable to drive to usb to laptop, linux02:21
PRabytenope02:21
PRabytexfs02:21
PRabytehavent decided to migrate to zfs yet02:21
histoPRabyte: is this a 2TB external?02:22
syn-ackok well, install xfsprogs and use gparted to create an XFS parition, copy info, profit.02:22
Awakennot UFS then, the standard freebsd filesystem ?02:22
PRabytethat the other drive, that works fine02:22
syn-ackAwaken: yeah, something seems.... odd02:22
PRabytelike i said, tis not seeing drive, neither is gparted02:22
PRabyteso... lets talk about xfsprogs02:22
syn-ackok02:24
syn-ackit's not seeing the block device at all?02:24
syn-ackCan you pull it up in lspci?02:24
PRabytescratch balls, i think i said that before didnt i?02:24
PRabytenope02:24
PRabytenotta02:24
histoPRabyte: unplug the drive then.. sudo dmesg -C  to clear the log then plug the drive in and pastebin the output of dmesg02:24
PRabytelike a said02:24
FloodBot1PRabyte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:24
PRabyteah ok. thanks ill try that02:24
syn-ackwhat histo said02:24
varunendraPRabyte, do you see the drive in BIOS?02:24
PRabytenothing when i removed usb cable in dmesg02:24
syn-ackor even tail -f /var/log/syslog02:24
syn-ackPRabyte: Try a different cable, then02:24
PRabytesame when plugged in02:24
PRabyteill recheck the cables02:24
PRabytesb02:24
sam113101the font used by gtk 2 is not the same as the font used by gtk 302:24
histoPRabyte: remove drive; sudo dmesg -C ; plug in drive; pastebinit dmesg02:25
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histosam113101: check your appearence options02:25
varunendraPRabyte, any connected drive has to be recognised by the BIOS first. If it's not appearing there, it's a hardware issue.02:25
sam113101histo: there's nothing font-related there02:25
histosam113101: sorry theme options02:26
histovarunendra: it's a usb drive don't confuse him at this point02:26
sam113101histo: where's that?02:26
syn-ackwas just about to tell him that, histo. Thanks.02:28
syn-ackvarunendra: that is why I told him to change cables, though02:28
PRabytecables good, still no dmesg02:28
varunendrahisto, okay. But you know that's right.02:28
PRabytedrive is spinning02:28
syn-ackI thought he was just having issuse not seeing the file system, not the entire block device.02:29
histoPRabyte: did you plug the drive back in after clearing dmesg?02:29
PRabyteno loud noticed or skips coming from ide drive02:29
PRabytehisto: no dmesg about it02:29
PRabytelike i said02:29
histoPRabyte: did you plug the drive back in after clearing dmesg?02:29
histoPRabyte: you have to cycle the plug or there will be no output in dmesg02:29
zudgeguys02:30
syn-ackPRabyte: unplug the drive, from the console, do this tail -f /var/log/syslog and then plug the drive in.02:30
PRabytehisto: do you know how to use xfsprogs or mkfs.xfs02:30
zudgei copied my home folder to /storage02:30
PRabytey/n02:30
zudgefstab02:30
zudge /storage/zudge                            /home/zudge     ext4         defaults,bind     0       002:30
syn-ackit's the same thing histo wants, but only different02:30
histoPRabyte: yes if we could reliably determine what dev it is but without you following basic instructions that's rather difficult02:30
zudgeits not mounting correctly02:31
syn-ackzudge: because your fstab isn't right02:31
histozudge: what is /storage another mounted device?02:31
zudgehisto: yes its another parition.  it is mounted correctly.02:31
syn-ackah02:31
PRabytekinda wondered why syn-ack suggested i use dmesg...02:32
zudgei'm also mounting the home folder after02:32
PRabyteim in syslog02:32
PRabytebrb02:32
histozudge: is storage mounted previous to that bind mount?02:32
syn-ackPRabyte: because it's the same thing, perhaps?02:32
zudgeany suggestions for my fstab?  i've done this before.  no idea why its not working02:33
alumno_hi02:33
PRabytenothing in tail -f syslog02:33
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syn-ackugh02:33
syn-acknm, PRabyte02:33
histoPRabyte: then your computer is not seeing the drive02:33
PRabytehisto: do you know how to use xfsprogs or mkfs.xfs02:33
histoPRabyte: yes02:33
syn-ackPRabyte: you're not going to be using either of those if you can't see the block device.02:34
syn-ackPRabyte: Figure out WHY your computer isn't seeing it. That's the first half of the battle.02:34
usr13zudge: /storage/zudge is device name?02:34
syn-ackusr13: yeah, because it's a mounted device he's binding.02:35
histousr13: he's trying to bind mount02:35
zudgeusr13:  its a copy of my home folder02:35
PRabytetried mucking with jumpers, still nothing in dmesg or syslog02:35
syn-ackthat's what threw me off at first too02:35
PRabytemkfs.xfs02:35
usr13zudge: So why not just a symlink?02:35
zudgeusr13: i booted to terminal mode and used  'sudo cp -a /home/zudge /storage/zudge'02:35
PRabytedmesg02:35
PRabyte[ 4635.264407] i2c i2c-5: sendbytes: NAK bailout.02:35
zudgeusr13: if you could help me set that up i'm fine with using it, but ive just used this method in the past02:36
syn-ackusr13: that's a pretty good idea. Heck of a lot easier to do than binding02:36
PRabytehonestly, i think had you guys know you would have just said, but as usual, its not the case, nevermind i will figure it out. i was feeling lazy... l802:36
histopr0gu1ka: it's very simple mkfs.xfs /dev/or/your/stupid/usb that you don't know02:36
syn-ackhisto: he's gone02:37
histoahh well02:37
syn-ackNo love lost, imo02:37
histoI'll tell him in the other channel he's been pestering people02:37
histoahh well left there as well.02:37
syn-ackSome people. ignorant AND ungrateful. sigh02:37
syn-ackI hate saying that, too02:37
usr13zudge: ln -s /storage/zudge /home/zudge02:37
histozudge: So what is happening it's not mounted or your user doesn't have access to it?02:37
syn-ackusr13: heck, he could also use the inode and hardlink, as well02:38
zudgehisto: it just mounts the home folder still located in /home/zudge.  i copied it instead of moving it02:38
syn-ackhard link would be a little bit better of a choice in this case, I think02:38
histozudge: pastebin the output of mount after boot02:38
usr13zudge:  But wait.  Is /home/zudge your home directory?02:39
zudgei just realized i can't use symlink because i need the home folder on the other storage device for space02:39
histowut?02:39
syn-ackwho knows.02:39
zudgehisto: it boots fine, just from the actual /home/zudge instead of mounting /storage/zudge over /home/zudge02:39
usr13zudge: I'm not sure what your goal is.  Can you tell me?02:39
zudgeusr13: mount my home folder from an second storage device mounted to /storage02:40
syn-ackit's not like you'd actually be storing anything on a symlinked source any way02:40
histousr13: he wants his home bind mounted from a different drive02:40
zudgeusr13: my home folder has been copied to /storage/zudge02:40
syn-ackI would just forgo the bind mount and mount directly to the other device02:40
histozudge: How are you determining that it's not working?02:40
syn-ackor if its over the network, just use NFS or SAMBA02:41
zudgehisto: i created a folder in /storage/zudge and rebooted.  it didn't reflect the  added folder in ~ after the reboot02:41
histozudge: For the love of god pastebin the output of mount02:41
* histo Takes a deep breath02:41
usr13zudge: Oh, well.  I don't know.  That is a bit of a weird way to do it.  Why did you copy your personal files to /storage/zudge?  And where is /storage/zudge? (On the same partition? or_____?)02:41
usr13zudge: mount |  pastebinit  #And send us the resulting URL02:42
histohe's gone02:43
* litropy shrugs02:43
histoI sense i'm going to get kicked/banned tonight when I rage02:43
usr13histo: Oh. Well too bad.  Was an interesting issue.02:43
usr13histo: Why?  What is it?02:43
histousr13: most likely it was mounted properly but he just expected to be in /storage/zudge instead of /home/zudge when he went to term02:43
usr13Yea, I guess that's possible.02:44
histoAnother option would be to just change his users home to /storage/zudge instead of /home/$USER02:45
pzndoes ubuntuforuns use the same credentials as launchpad or one.ubuntu? should I change my passwords at launchpad or one.ubuntu?02:46
histousermod -m -d /storage/zudge zudge  would have worked wonders02:46
histopzn: read the page on ubuntuforums.org02:46
histopzn: The bold words may be of help02:47
usr13histo: But if /storage/audge was another drive, I think I'd have done just a standard fastab entry with a bilkid for it.  One thing that needs to be done first though is rename one of them.  Because if it's the /home/zudge the mountpoint for the real one will be somewhat of a conflict.  So he would have needed to rename /home/zudge (like /home/old-zudge), before mounting the new one. Right?02:48
usr13*zudge not audge02:48
DuncanNZsorry wrong channel02:48
DuncanNZsorry not wrong channel02:48
DuncanNZlol02:48
histousr13: no if you mount on top of a directory the underlying one is no longer accesible02:48
usr13Oh?02:49
pznhisto, sorry, I had read that previously, and since I never used ubuntu forums, I don't know exactly. the page says ubuntu one was not affected by the breach. however I don't know if forums and ubuntu one use the same credentials (for example by LDAP).02:49
usr13histo: Then how would you delete the duplicate files?  Because you'd want to do delete them at some point, right?02:49
histousr13: you'd have to delete them before the mount.02:50
usr13histo: Yea, that's what I mean.02:50
histopzn: different creds02:50
SengokuAnyone here know hindi?02:50
usr13Sengoku: I think she is in hiding.02:50
pznhisto: ok, now all understood. thanks!02:50
varunendraSengoku, yes, but I think it wouldn't be allowed here. It is an English-only channel.02:51
Sengokucan I pm you a question?02:51
varunendraSengoku, your English seems good enough to ask here.02:52
tree1hi friends i recentle compiled my kernel with latest version of kernel but as i reeboted the system i find error like it says running in low graphics and then does not proceed02:52
histotree1: what type of graphics card?02:52
tree1 hi friends i recentle compiled my kernel with latest version of kernel but as i reeboted the system i find error like it says running in low graphics and then does not proceed can any one help plse02:52
histotree1: also why did you install a newer kernel?02:53
syn-ackwe help with custom kernel and panics?02:53
Sengokuvarunendra: I didn't need linux help =\ I just needed help to translate something02:53
syn-ackkernels, that is02:53
Sengokuno english hindi translators..02:53
tree1well i hab intel hd3000 kernel02:53
usr13histo: But if you mv /home/zudge /home/old.zudge that would solve the problem, (you can rm -rf /home/old.zudge afterward, after you are sure your files are all there and mounted/accessable)02:53
syn-ack usr13 I completely forgot about having to do that02:54
tree1and i compiled kernel coz i could not find linux/module header file in my generic version of kernel02:54
varunendraSengoku, probably if you can explain your objective in detail, maybe someone here can direct you to the correct place :)02:54
histousr13: yeap  unless you use usermod above that will move the users files if you use the -m with -d02:54
syn-ackusr13: I think you're spot on02:54
Sengokuvarunendra: someone messaged something , don't know what it means02:55
Sengokucouldn't find any indian channels02:55
varunendraSengoku, google translate ?? But I'm okay with pm for this one.. :)02:56
curatrixSengoku: http://translate.google.com.au/#en/hi/02:57
usr13histo: I've never done it that way, I suppose it works, just never tried it.02:57
pznI need to diagnose the boot process. inside an initrd script, I'd like to start a shell for diagnose... putting /bin/sh inside the script does not work. any hints?02:59
Jeeves_Mosshow do I clear the warning and errors within Nagios?03:00
syn-ackpzn: are you putting that before or after the shebang?03:00
pznsyn-ack, inside /scripts/local-top/cryptoroot, at some point of the script I'm putting "/bin/sh"03:01
syn-ackpzn: And really why would you want to init a to start a shell when logon does that?03:02
syn-ackpzn: a script would generally consider that a shebang line03:02
syn-ackUnless you're trying to fork it from the initial process....03:03
pznsyn-ack, I have a problem with the setup of cryptoroot. the boot does not complete. I need to start a shell inside a boot script03:03
pznsyn-ack, then I can diagnose by using this shell03:03
syn-ackI wouldn't even know where to begin a hack like that.03:03
syn-ackI doubt (and hope) that's impossible, to be quite honest, pzn03:04
pznsyn-ack, :-(03:04
syn-ackyou need to boot without cryptroot and see if it's leaving any logs03:05
syn-ackI don't know enough about how it works to know.03:05
pznsyn-ack, cryptoroot is needed for accessing the / partition... so boot does not complete.03:05
syn-ackI'm trying to research it right now...03:06
syn-ackthis is whole drive encryption, no?03:06
Awakenhmm, i have a dedi box, came imaged with 12.04.2 server, but with the 3.2 kernel. I have no KVM over IP or stuff! Reckon  sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-quantal will break it ? :D03:06
syn-ackpzn: THIS is why I think root encryption is a bad idea.03:07
syn-ackpzn: so what errors, if any is it throwing?03:07
syn-ackpzn: and, can you drop into single user mode from grub to accomplish this?03:08
pznsyn-ack, http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug found it! I should add a parameter break= so kernel stops at initrd and gives me a shell to debug03:08
syn-ackok, I'm sorry, I was trying to get up to speed to point you in the right direction. you got there before I could. Again, sorry about that03:09
histoAwaken: it shouldn't03:09
histoAwaken: Is there a reason you want to though?03:09
syn-ackpzn: either way, this is why encrypting / is a bad idea, imo. /boot? Go ahead, do it all day long, but not /03:10
curatrixif / is encrypted ..the key needs to be stored separately03:11
machismoZimmerman. The media to kickstart black riots invented a new race. WHITE mexican.03:11
syn-ackcuratrix: yeah either in /boot or the TPM.03:12
syn-ackI *HATE* the trusted computing model.03:12
pznsyn-ack, customer requirement, / encrypted, reboot only with human present, key must be typed, only 3 people have the key. I don't agree with that... however I must comply03:12
syn-ackpzn: DoD TEMPEST?03:13
machismocuratrix: yeah with OBAMAS survalance spy state everything needs encryprion03:13
vaskaloidisHey, can I install Ubuntu Server 13.04 on my hard-drive, plugged into my friends Compaq, then use the hard drive in my Dell Dimension 4600 - or will it not work correctly because it was not installed on the computer that is running it because of drivers? My dell Dimension 4600 (Pentium 4) will not install Ubuntu Server onto it's hard drive because it WONT load the CD. I have been trying for a long time03:13
vaskaloidisThank you!!03:13
syn-ackIt'll work, vaskaloidis03:14
syn-ackLinux is good like that.03:14
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histo!ot | machismo03:14
ubottumachismo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:14
histovaskaloidis: yes it will work03:14
vaskaloidissyn-ack: It won't have any driver errors? histo03:14
syn-acknope03:14
pznsyn-ack, :-) no... just a computer with a software that does audits on SAP, accounts and government taxes.03:14
vaskaloidis\that would be so awesome03:14
machismovaskaloidis: it will work. Booting is the issue with grub03:14
vaskaloidisthanks machismo and histo03:15
syn-ackpzn: I pitty you, but still not as much as if it were TEMPEST.03:15
syn-ackwhat about me? :(03:15
syn-ack*cries*03:15
syn-ackMan, I'm really liking this latest installl. I think I may clone it, just in case.03:16
roobissyn-ack, using what drive image software?03:18
chuckohas anyone successfully managed to get raid working on 13.0403:18
machismoperfect forward secrecy is one way to block the NSA. Its client originated SSL encryption.03:18
SunStarhow to i install b43-fwcutter from USB install disk if the machine has no network access or an optical drive?03:19
syn-ackroobis: dd03:19
histo!anyone | chucko03:20
ubottuchucko: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.03:20
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syn-ackroobis: just dd the whole / partition and rsync it to the server. :D03:21
roobissyn-ack I tried dd, got stuck03:21
historoobis: What are you trying to do?03:21
varunendraSunStar, If you are sure you need the b43 driver, you can just download the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package and double-click to install : http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download03:22
roobishisto, clone my hard drive and have it available as a sort of quick restore03:22
SunStarit installed the STA driver during OS install but i get no wifi connections listed03:22
roobisI was gonna try redobackup or clonezilla er something03:22
chuckoubottu: Does anyone know how to get raid working with 13.04 desktop. I have previously installed with alternate but one does not exist for 13.04. I have read an option to install server addition and install ubuntu-desktop but I am not sure if that will give me a true desktop experience03:23
ubottuchucko: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:23
SunStarredo is great for that03:23
syn-ackroobis: clonezilla is a real good way to do that as well03:23
historoobis: you could use clonezilla if you don't want to just use dd | gzip | nc03:23
varunendraSunStar, if you are not sure about the correct driver, please give us the pastebin link of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"03:23
roobisSunStar, I tried to run redo from the iso, but it wouldnt' open03:23
roobismay need to download and burn it again03:23
roobissplash screen freeze03:24
SunStarchucko, yes you can install ubuntu desktop onto server it will function just like ubuntu desktop (just a lil slower if its got a bunch of server deamons running like a lampp stack03:24
SunStarroobis, likely the download was corrupted. redo is based on ubuntu so it should boot if ubuntu runs03:25
toki_wa_tomaranatest03:25
machismoWhen the heck is 32 bit going to die like the dinosaurs. Pure 64 bit is way better03:25
chuckoSunStar: if dont install the daemons ie. dont install LAMP etc, do I get the speed back?03:25
historoobis: dd if=/dev/sda bs=whatever | gzip -c | nc -v -w 60 ip.addr.of.server port03:25
SunStarah but redo is so much more fun. and less likely to cause a disaster03:26
wilee-nileemachismo, about the same time you go beyond a pre-pubescent cognitive state, NEVER.03:26
roobisSunStar, yes it looks good, and a restore dvd is what I want03:27
machismowilee-nilee: i ask and you give me insults03:27
machismowilee-nilee: you still using 8 bit commodore 6403:28
syn-ackhah03:28
chuckoDoes anyone know  if I should use the default open-source nviidia drivers vs the proprietry. Are the open-source drivers stable and fast?03:28
lotuspsychje!nvidia | chucko03:28
ubottuchucko: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto03:28
machismochucko: closed source03:29
syn-ackchucko: I would use the proprietary drivers and as a matter of fact, do03:29
SunStarchucko,  both have worked well for me in the past03:29
roobisdoes clonezilla create a restore dvd?03:29
machismoSunStar: yeah if you use ur desk top for word processing only03:30
historoobis: you use the clonezilla boot media and pick where ever your image file is and plop it back on03:30
machismoZimmerman. The media to kickstart black riots invented a new race. WHITE mexican.03:30
* curatrix thanks F03:30
wilee-nileeroobis, No you run it from a cd or usb and it saves packages to where you want, an external HD works nicely.03:30
SunStarroobis,  run the ISO through your torrent app again and force recheck of torrent data. like i said redo is based on ubuntu, if ubuntu works fine then its more likly the source media your running03:32
SunStarthat is to blame*03:33
roobisSunStar, I download it html not torrent03:35
SunStarthen verify the MD5 checksum. the easiest way to do that is run it through a torrent app03:35
SunStaroh yeah but they are sourceforge based03:36
wilee-nileeroobis, You can rename it to the torrent download and check it if you wanted as well.03:36
SunStarnevermind dont trust any torrents on that03:36
FoxhoundzI ruined my httpd installation by messing with the conf files.03:40
FoxhoundzHow do I reset it to mint condition again?03:40
Foxhoundzdelete all *.conf files?03:40
Foxhoundzreinstall apache2?03:41
Foxhoundzor something else?03:41
Awakenchucko, bit late, yes, the open source nvidia drivers are stable, no they are NOT fast :(03:41
Awakenand will cook your laptop03:41
usr13Foxhoundz: You can probably just use apt-get's purge option.03:43
SunStaromg im dumb. the answer i was looking for was sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb03:44
Foxhoundzthere was an answer on ubuntu forums03:44
Foxhoundzbut alas03:44
Foxhoundzthe hacking has really come at a bad time03:44
usr13Foxhoundz: "purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too)."  (From the man file.)03:44
FoxhoundzI see03:45
Foxhoundzwould this in any way interfere with the existing php5 installation and its extensions?03:45
HisaoNakaiCould someone please help me set up my Ubuntu 12.04 install so I can type in LibreOffice in Hindi? I've installed the ttf-devanagari-fonts package but when I type in them in LO it's still English :\03:45
usr13Foxhoundz: Are you sure you can't just fix it? (Not that un-installing and re-installing is not an option, and may even be easier, but....)?03:46
devslashim trying to install an application called xvidcap from a deb. when i do sudo dpkg -i xvidcap.deb it  fails because it xvidcap depends on scrollkeeper. i manually installed scrollkeeper but when i try again i cant instal it. i get the same error03:46
snappydoes anyone know if ubuntu personal sharing over bluetooth works -- specifically receiving a file over bluetooth? i have it enabled to receive files to the downloads directory, but when i send a file it (from android device) it just fails.03:46
snappyI also tried from another macbook03:46
FailGameDevHow do I make it so that Ubuntu stores a folder with one name on one machine and another name on a different one?03:47
curatrixsnappy: If it is android you should be able to use a link(usb) cable and enable the device to act like a flash drive03:48
FailGameDevUbuntuOne, sorryu03:48
FailGameDev-u03:48
usr13snappy: Do you have a wifi network?  (If so, how about Filexpert?03:49
usr13snappy: Or as curatrix suggests, just use the usb cable.03:49
curatrixif they are small files, i would use dropbox03:50
usr13curatrix: It's an android, right?03:50
snappyi want to use bluetooth specifically03:50
Awakenor bit torrent sync or aero fs or something03:50
usr13curatrix: Do you have a USB cable for it?03:50
snappymy android can send a file over BT to a mac, i assume this all uses the OBEX protocol, so im just not sure if it even works in ubuntu03:51
curatrixusr13: it is snappy's and yes I believe it is android03:51
usr13snappy: Okeydokey, but bluetooth is not the best option, IMO.03:51
HisaoNakaiCould someone please help me set up my Ubuntu 12.04 install so I can type in LibreOffice in Hindi? I've installed the ttf-devanagari-fonts package but when I type in them in LO it's still English -_-03:51
wilee-nileeHisaoNakai, From libreoffice-help-language "Choose Tools - Options - Language Settings - Writing Aids, in the Available language modules list, select one of the language modules and then click Edit."03:51
snappyright, just trying to confirm if anyone has actualyl done it before03:52
wilee-nileeHisaoNakai, The help in Libreoffice should get you what you need03:52
snappysearching tells me that it is a mixed experience03:52
curatrixI have sent files via bt03:52
curatrixit will work but it is glitchy (at best)03:53
snappyah ok03:53
HisaoNakaiwilee-nilee - Thanks, one sec, Ima try.03:53
histo!locale | HisaoNakai03:53
ubottuHisaoNakai: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale/03:53
snappycuratrix: do i need ot confirm the file transfer if a file is being received (on my mac, i have to)03:53
curatrixsnappy: Check out dropbox .....it is an awesome app and the files can be retrieved through any browser03:53
HisaoNakaihisto - Isn't that more to do with system language? I don't want to change that :|03:54
snappyright now, i just want to test my bluetooth beyond pairing -- then i want to do some socket programming over bluetooth03:54
curatrixsnappy: Yes03:54
histosnappy: you can install ssh server app from the android market and just scp files to your phone03:54
histoHisaoNakai: ignore me then03:54
snappyjust looking for apps to prove that beyond pairing, bluetotoh works03:54
HisaoNakaiwilee-nilee - Not a ghost of Hindi there.03:57
curatrixHisaoNakai: I think you have to install the hindi lang files via the system for them to be available in libre03:59
snappyok, i think the receive files is broken -- but at least i can send files over bluetooth -- which means bluetooth does work03:59
HisaoNakaicuratrix - <HisaoNakai> Could someone please help me set up my Ubuntu 12.04 install so I can type in LibreOffice in Hindi? I've installed the ttf-devanagari-fonts package but when I type in them in LO it's still English :\03:59
curatrixsnappy: The low power means that bits are frequently lost04:00
wilee-nileeHisaoNakai, I can't say exactly how you set this up however I see hindi in two places in the option-language-settings-languages.04:00
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curatrixHisaoNakai: ttf is a true type font file.....it is different to a language file04:00
curatrixHisaoNakai: I think what you are after is in the system settings(aka control panel)04:01
Random832HisaoNakai: you need to set up a keyboard layout04:01
* HisaoNakai is confused.04:02
HisaoNakailol04:02
HisaoNakaiwilee-nilee - I don't, and Asian languages is grayed out oO_04:02
HisaoNakai*o_O04:02
HisaoNakaicuratrix - I see.04:02
HisaoNakaiRandom832 - Any guide or something you could point me to? o.o04:02
wilee-nileeHisaoNakai, this might help, I saw hindi in the 2nd and 3rd dropdowns on the left in that section. https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Languages04:03
Random832HisaoNakai: listen to curatrix, i need to go04:03
HisaoNakaiRandom832 - Okay-o.04:03
* curatrix hides04:04
Random832sorry, i use xubuntu, so i'm not sure where the settings are on gnome ubuntu04:04
* curatrix uses mint xfce 04:04
curatrixlol04:04
HisaoNakailmfao curatrix04:04
nimdAHKHisaoNakai: I can't internationalization but I like your nickname :P04:04
HisaoNakaiI use XFCE too.04:04
wilee-nileeHisaoNakai, Sorry on the right side of that options section.04:04
HisaoNakainimdAHK - Oh, are you aware of KS?04:05
HisaoNakaiwilee-nilee - one sec, checking it out04:05
nimdAHKI am. 100%'d it a while back.04:05
Random832HisaoNakai: oh then i can help you04:06
curatrixHisaoNakai: ok  open the menu  go  to   settings/language support04:06
Random832go to the top menu, settings manager04:06
* curatrix steps back04:06
curatrix;)04:06
Random832grr let me find it04:06
Random832ok04:06
HisaoNakainimdAHK - Heh! Congrats, you're the first person to have recognized it ever since I changed it :D04:06
Random832HisaoNakai: in the settings manager, go to Keyboard, and open the Layout tab04:06
HisaoNakaiRandom832 - Yes? o.o04:07
Random832and then add a layout, find Indian in the list04:07
Random832and select one of the - did you say Hindi?04:07
HisaoNakaiYeah, Hindi.04:08
nimdAHKHisaoNakai: protip: get a tshirt with Kenji's angry face on it. Good for meeting other KS fans irl surreptitiously.04:08
Random832वेरतयुिोप04:09
forogmynickhello04:09
Random832gah04:09
forogmynickroughly how much space does ubuntu desktop take after install?04:09
Random832i am not sure how to switch between two installed layouts04:09
wilee-nileeforogmynick, close to 4 gigs04:10
wilee-nileemaybe a little less04:10
Random832ok you have to add an applet to the panel04:10
Random832then in the applet properties you can set a key shortcut04:10
Random832HisaoNakai: you getting this?04:11
Random832was there any part you couldn't follow?04:11
HisaoNakaiWups04:11
HisaoNakaione sec04:11
Random832१२३४५६७८९०04:12
HisaoNakaiHaha, Random83204:12
Random832^you seeing that? if the font's working you should see that04:12
HisaoNakainimdAHK - protip indeed :))04:12
HisaoNakaiRandom832 - I do see it, but I can't seem to do it O_o04:12
Random832did you add a keyboard layout?04:12
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HisaoNakaiRandom832 - Oh, lol, I had, but hadn't selected it. Excellent, it works :D04:13
Random832yeah you need to add the keyboard layout applet to the panel04:14
Random832right click the panel, go to panel, add new items04:14
Random832find the keyboard layout applet04:14
Random832then you can click it to switch, or you can right click and set up a key shortcut04:14
FaithlessHyrenHello, everyone.04:15
HisaoNakaiRandom832 - What's 'compose key position'?04:15
FaithlessHyrenA simple question from me, since the Ubuntu Forums are down: How do I boot into the GRUB Boot loader?04:15
Random832ignore that04:15
Random832just set up the change layout option04:16
nimdAHKhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key <-- for later, HisaoNakai04:16
FaithlessHyrenOr even just straight into memtest04:16
HisaoNakaiRandom832 - Silly, they could've given two lists of keys to pick...but yeah, I get the idea ^^04:16
HisaoNakaithanks nimdAHK :)04:17
wilee-nileeFaithlessHyren, Context on a live cd or a install?04:17
FaithlessHyrenOn an install.04:17
HisaoNakaiAlt+Caps lock. Alright :D04:17
pheonix10hi everyone04:17
pheonix10i need a little help with ldap04:17
wilee-nileeFaithlessHyren, The memtest would be on a live cd, grub would be tapping the shift when powering on.04:18
pheonix10any kind souls able to help me out04:18
histo!memtest | FaithlessHyren04:18
FaithlessHyrenThanks, wilee-nilee.04:18
curatrix!ask04:18
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:18
HisaoNakaiRandom832 - Thanks, I think I'm more or less set. Tell me this, is there any resource for international-language-typing? It's a bit confusing, so it'd be good to learn in case of future mess-ups.04:19
Random832not really04:19
histo!ldap | pheonix1004:19
ubottupheonix10: LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer04:19
Random832just be glad you've got a simple language04:19
HisaoNakailol, ouch.04:19
HisaoNakaiI'll also need to german in a few months :(04:19
sirdeseagulltry google ime04:19
Random832no i mean like, setting up for like chinese or japanese is a bit more involved than just a keyboard layout04:19
HisaoNakai*set up for german04:20
FaithlessHyrenWell. it doesn't help that I'm missing 6MB of RAM.04:20
Random832german's not hard at all - just add the US International keyboard layout04:20
histoFaithlessHyren: what do you mean missing?04:20
Random832or german or swiss german if you have one of those actual keyboards04:20
pheonix10trying to configure an application (PacketFence) to authenticate users using the organization's LDAP but am currently stuck04:20
sirdeseagulli have just install google ime for japanese kanji and it works fantastic04:21
HisaoNakaiI see, Random832...04:21
HisaoNakaiOh, sirdeseagull, you meant me, lol.04:21
pheonix10i have a field "Username Attribute" but i don't know what to enter there?04:21
FaithlessHyrenhisto: Memtest is showing that I have 4022MB of RAM. Unless the on-board graphics is using 6, which isn't a power of 2, then I've lost a few megabytes.04:21
sirdeseagullhaha04:21
nickthebumHisaoNakai: you a china man04:21
HisaoNakainickthebum - No, India o_O04:21
Random832and german support is in every font, you don't need to install fonts04:21
Random832if you wanted like the file menu to be in german or hindi you'd have to install language pack files, but you were just talking about typing it into libreoffice04:22
FaithlessHyrenWait, hang on, I've got my maths wrong.04:22
sirdeseagullgerman use roman anyways04:22
HisaoNakaiRandom832 - That's good to hear. However...I might need more fonts for Hindi, how does one change that in this setup?04:22
FaithlessHyrenMake that 74MB, not 604:22
nickthebumFaithlessHyren: are you using 32 or 64 bit04:22
curatrixHisaoNakai: You should be able to use any ttf hindi font04:22
wilee-nileeFaithlessHyren, data is measured in 1000Mib or 1024MIB at times for a gig.04:22
wilee-nileeMib*04:23
Random832HisaoNakai: i don't know where you can get fonts04:23
Random832but if you make a directory in your home called ".fonts" you can put any fonts you download in it04:23
curatrixThe fonts are all over the net04:23
sirdeseagullhere hisaonakai : http://insane-on-linux.blogspot.ca/2010/01/google-ime-for-indian-languages.html04:23
nickthebumNow even FONTS can carry spy ware04:23
HisaoNakainickthebum - LOL04:23
Random832i don't know if that's the "proper" place, that's just how i learned it and it still works for me i tihnk04:24
FaithlessHyrennickthebum: I'm not actually sure, to be honest. It's a machine I picked up from the side of the road. But shouldn't 32-bit be limited to 3.7GB, instead of 4.02?04:24
nickthebumHisaoNakai: yes they can.04:24
FaithlessHyrenwilee-nilee: It's measured in 1000MB for storage, but in 1024 for RAM, which is what's being dodgy.04:24
wilee-nileenickthebum, Hardly ubuntu support info.04:24
HisaoNakaiRandom832, curatrix - Aha, I got it. I _can_ use the existing ttfs I have. Although a tiny annoyance, I have to change input method to search for them in LO's font list, _then_ switch IM again to use them, lulz.04:25
wilee-nileeFaithlessHyren, Depends on who and what is measuring it.04:25
HisaoNakainickthebum - I know, ironic laughter.04:25
nickthebumFaithlessHyren: boot into bios.04:25
HisaoNakainickthebum - I avoid google stuff where ever possible.04:25
nickthebumFaithlessHyren: check memory in bios04:25
HisaoNakaiThey're like those antagonists who act all good and even do good to gain trust >_>04:26
curatrixHisaoNakai: Yeah ....They will all get lumped in together......Personally I would start a new user account that was set up for hindi .04:26
FaithlessHyrennickthebum: It's 64-bit, and installed memory is showing up as a very vague 4.0GB04:26
HisaoNakaicuratrix - Nah, current one works fine - it'd be a pain to have to keep switching between accounts :S04:27
nickthebumFaithlessHyren: should it be more04:27
curatrixHisaoNakai: That is fair enough.04:27
HisaoNakaiOne more question, not regarding languages04:27
FaithlessHyrennickthebum: It should be 4096MB, but it shows up in memtest as 4022. I suspect a stick to be damaged, though, since it was preventing the PC from booting before I re-seated it.04:28
nickthebumFaithlessHyren: your worried about that. Its probably coversion from MB or Mb.04:29
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HisaoNakaiWhere can I find out about Ubuntu's legal status as a company? I'm about to make a FOSS project which is based on a donate-for-earlier-release basis, and should make money, so I'm trying to know how big projects with lots of donation inflow do it.04:29
zengr1Hello, I am trying to enable monitor mode in a wifi dongle. But i get an error when I try to change it. Any suggestions? question: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/8578/enable-monitor-mode-in-rtl8188cus-realtek-wifi-usb-dongle04:29
curatrixnickthebum: I thought that though 4096/1.024=400004:29
nickthebumFaithlessHyren: or mb. All are slightly different04:30
nickthebumThere are online convertors.04:30
wilee-nileezengr1, And this is related to ubuntu how?04:31
FaithlessHyrennickthebum: Don't I know it. http://xkcd.com/394/04:31
zengr1wilee-nilee: raspberrypi runs ubuntu04:31
nickthebumFaithlessHyren: there are some you can plug numbers in.04:32
wilee-nileezengr1, Not anything from canonical, if at all.04:32
nickthebumWhats so great about raspberry04:32
zengr1wilee-nilee: my bad. nickthebum: nothing really. Its just a small and cheap computer04:33
zengr1nickthebum: perfect to create a small sniffer and place it anywhere.04:33
FlannelHisaoNakai: Ubuntu isn't a company.  Also, this channel is for technical support, you should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic04:33
wilee-nileezengr1, There is a #raspberrypi chanel though04:33
FaithlessHyrenIf the ram was a hard-drive maker's gigabyte, I'd have 3.81 actual GB.04:34
zengr1wilee-nilee: thanks, I will try it out04:34
FaithlessHyrenBut the difference is only 74MB04:34
HisaoNakaiFlannel - I see. Thanks.04:34
histozengr1: perhaps your wifi chipset doesn't support monitor mode04:34
nickthebumwilee-nilee: now them android tv boxes are getting better. Quad cores. Run circles around raspberrypi using one watt of power04:34
HisaoNakaiwilee-nilee, curatrix, Random832 , nimdAHK, sirdeseagull , nickthebum, thank you all for your help ^^04:34
FaithlessHyrenNot ~20004:34
histonickthebum: wiht no GPIO04:34
wilee-nileezengr1, Cool the channel has 371 users so should be some answers.04:34
Aww371? more like 1471 ;o04:35
wilee-nileeAww, Not the #raspberrypi channel.04:35
AwwAh okay, sorry I only read one line up :P04:36
wilee-nileeI know lol04:36
wilee-nilee;)04:36
nickthebum371 ops 1 regular user and wilee-nilee keeps kick banning him04:36
wilee-nileeI don't have the power04:36
* wilee-nilee laughs in a sinister way while petting his cat.04:38
Kohelethwhat software was the ubuntu forum using?04:40
wilee-nileevb404:41
wilee-nileetwo rats with a shred wheel for the server04:42
wilee-nileeshared*04:42
Kohelethnot used it for a while, can I view my pwd before changing it, not sure which one I used04:42
chunkyheadubuntu is refusing to allow me to connect thru wifi -_- i cant even switch on my driver (usually that would happen when i press fn+f3) im on 13.0404:43
holsteinchunkyhead: you shouldnt need to "switch on a driver"04:44
chunkyheadholstein, exactly. but i cant do anything04:44
holsteinchunkyhead: cant?04:44
chunkyheadi thought maybe the driver was off so i tried turning it on and the light doesn't glow at all04:44
chunkyheadholstein, ^04:44
chunkyheadnor do i have any option in the network menu on the top bar holstein04:44
holsteinchunkyhead: do dont "turn them on"04:45
holsteinchunkyhead: the driver is either available in the kernel, or you need to add it04:45
holstein!wifi04:45
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:45
holsteinchunkyhead: have you read that ^^04:45
chunkyheadholstein, reading brb04:45
holsteinchunkyhead: do you know what hardware you have?04:45
varunendrachunkyhead, which driver/chip are you using ? (lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net)04:45
chunkyheadvarunendra, broadcom04:46
varunendrachunkyhead, please give us the pastebin link of the command.04:46
holstein!broadcom | chunkyhead04:46
ubottuchunkyhead: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx04:46
chunkyheadwhen i was on 12.04 it was working fine. recently i updated to 13.04 and i started using ethernet. just now when i wanted to connect to wifi i couldn't see anything yes posting 1 sec04:46
chunkyheadvarunendra, ^04:46
holsteinchunkyhead: please relax, and share what hardware you have04:47
chunkyheadvarunendra, holstein http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906418/04:47
chunkyheadim chilled out haha04:47
kce007hello there,a lot of ppl04:48
Alejadnroo80Hi anyone knows how to install Ubuntu for android on the nexus 4, recently shown in a video demo by Leann Ogasawara, it is shown around the 1:50 sec mark04:49
holsteinchunkyhead: when i go to the broadcom link i gave you and search 43225 i find information that supports the appropriate driver package you should add is bcmwl-kernel-source04:50
Alejadnroo80This is the link to the video I spoke before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtNhlVn3ETQ04:50
chunkyheadholstein, not there already saw04:50
varunendrachunkyhead, that card seems to be supported by all 3 variants of broadcom drivers. Please try - "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac"04:50
holsteinchunkyhead: it actually is there04:50
kce007who would be so nice and tell me what i can do for dell optical mouse freezes on boot,it works after one or 2 reboots04:51
wilee-nileeAlejadnroo80, #ubuntu-touch04:51
chunkyheadholstein, where? http://screencloud.net/v/laIT no where can i see 4322504:51
holstein!broadcom | chunkyhead04:51
varunendrachunkyhead, holstein, the best place to look for correct device/driver match for broadcom : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b4304:51
Alejadnroo80Ok thanks wilee-nilee04:52
holsteinvarunendra: i usually suggest the wiki and using repo packages.. you are welcome to talk chunkyhead through using that04:52
varunendra:)04:53
varunendraholstein, the wiki is actually based on the same info. It mostly talks about identifying the device, then various ways to get the possible drivers.04:54
holsteinvarunendra: what i read, bcmwl-kernel-source is the one to try for that device04:54
chunkyheadwhat exactly is that i have to do on that link? varunendra04:54
miadbahramihelp me please04:55
holsteinchunkyhead: you read it, and parse what driver is needed for you device... as i did at the other link, where instaling bcmwl-kernel-source is suggested04:55
holsteinsudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source for example04:55
histochunkyhead: use the drivers manager in system settings04:55
varunendrachunkyhead, nothing to do there, the table on that page is only the info to determine which driver(s) may work for your card.04:56
miadbahramii use the ubuntu 12.04 lts and live in iran - past the install the os - i install the language support and add the persian04:57
miadbahramipast the restart my system remve the keyboard layout for persian04:58
chunkyheadwhere are firmwares installed on the system?04:58
varunendrachunkyhead, the easiest thing you can quickly and without side effects test is - "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac". If it doesn't work, the next thing to try would be installing firmware.04:58
kce007hello,i have ubuntu 13.04  32 bits version ,ati radeon hd 5700, i have dell 5 button usb mose allmost every boot pointer freezes and i can fix it with one or two reboots.What i can do for it?04:59
varunendrachunkyhead, the firmware for broadcom chips has to be in /lib/firmware/b43 directory by the way. But not by default and not required if the brcmsmac driver works.04:59
holsteinkce007: does it do it if you unplug and boot, and plug it in after its running? are you up to date with upgrades?05:00
chunkyheadvarunendra, i did sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac now how to check05:01
chunkyheadvarunendra, thanks man done :D05:01
varunendrachunkyhead, did the wireless become active? NM may not let you connect while wired connection is available.05:02
kce007holstein didnt tryed that one,but i tried unplug and plug after its booted,didnt worked05:02
holsteinkce007: and, you are up to date with upgrades?05:02
varunendrachunkyhead, it is weird why it didn't get loaded by default. It shouldn't have required that command.05:02
kce007holstein: yes i m up to date05:03
chunkyheadvarunendra, it works in windows. i was wondering why this happened05:03
chunkyheadanyways thanks none the less :D05:03
histokce007: memtest05:03
kce007ohh holstein btw i saw that my usb wireless network doesnt work to when i has that freeze problem05:04
kce007sorry by Memtest you mean?05:06
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anon123Hello, can anyone direct me on how to optimize ubuntu internet speed? Currently it's going way under what my isp/wireless connection and provide.05:20
roobisanon123, how are you checking speed?05:21
anon123speedtest.net05:21
sajananon123, What makes you think it's Ubuntu?05:21
roobisare you using google servers?05:21
anon123nope05:22
roobisdns05:22
anon123yep05:23
roobistry 8.8.8.8 network connections, ipv405:23
roobisautomatic dhcp addresses only05:24
anon123testing05:26
anon123ok actually improved closer to my wireless cap. I can live with 4mbps/4mbps. Before was only going 800kbps/100kbps. Thanks for the help.05:32
ntzrmtthihu777hello, I don't suppose anyone here can tell me where I can find a template *.desktop file?05:32
danlee/usr/share/applications05:35
bodomHi there! I've found an out-of-date package in ubuntu. Instead of reporting a bug, I would like to contribute and update it myself... can anybody point me to the right place to start?05:37
lorundrik!find trim05:37
ubottuFound: libtext-trim-perl, trimage, trimmomatic05:37
cfhowlett!contribute|bodom,05:37
ubottubodom,: contribute is To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu05:37
varunendrantzrmtthihu777, "/etc/xdg/autostart" ?05:40
bodomcfhowlett: Ty, but I was hoping for something less generic like an "how to update a package from mainstream" :D05:40
peteyboy_So is this coincincidence, or should I be worried: I just got an email from reddit saying someone requested a pwd reset for my account, but I sent no such request. I also used this email on ubuntuforums, but all 3 pwds are different05:51
Awakenmight be part of an automated script, if you were a wannabe hacker you'd wanna do a password reset on reddit if your stolen password WAS the same for your email. Then you have an extra account for free05:52
DuncanNZAwaken: +105:53
Awakenalso it lets them discover more email addresses potentially05:53
DuncanNZthey'll just reset everyone's reddit password, try everyone's email password using the same one, then they have both in their hands. they don't care05:53
Awakenthat you use, that the password might match05:53
Awakenif the reset process shows the email they sent the reset link to05:54
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DuncanNZthe whole thing is very serious, every user has a major problem on their hands. if nothing else they'll get spammed. if they didn't use unique passwords, as I doubt half of people do, then they've lost their email account. and once you've got email, you can lose everything else, using password reset links.05:55
DuncanNZthere'll be plenty of people who a) didn't use unique passwords and b) won't change their password for everything else in time05:56
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energizerI'm trying to install arch in virtualbox, need help. I tried #archlinux, but it seems to be a moderated channel so i cant ask. How to proceed?05:57
wilee-nileeenergizer, #vbox05:57
Ben64energizer: you may need to be registered to talk there05:57
wilee-nileeenergizer, You have the install wikito use for reference once you get there.05:59
energizer"wikito" ?06:00
wilee-nileewiki06:00
energizerinstall it?06:00
peteyboy_Awaken: i was just surprised as the supposed hacker said they wouldn't bother messing with people06:01
wilee-nileemy keyboard went a bit weird06:01
energizerlol is there something called wiki i need to install?06:01
wilee-nileeenergizer, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_Guide06:02
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energizerlol wilee-nilee ya im there06:02
wilee-nileecool06:02
peteyboy_not sure if you saw this, but Awaken: i was just surprised as the supposed hacker said they wouldn't bother messing with people06:02
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energizer(actually im reading the Beginners guide because it says the regular installation guide is for "advanced arch users")06:04
Awakenpeteyboy_, i would say that too if i was cracking salted passwords06:05
Awaken:P06:05
peteyboy_haha, I guess so06:05
kce007holstein: about that freeze on boot. memtest suceeded without errors06:06
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deckard_how can i know if a program is running 64 or 86?06:14
zryanhow to fix ? (AW,Snap!) google chrome?06:15
Braden`Hello06:16
zryanAW,Snap!06:18
Braden`I asked this in #httpd, but got no response.  I am wondering if this is an Ubuntu-centric issue.   * Starting web server apache2 -- Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: -- Invalid command 'CacheDirLength', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration.     I have cache, mem_cache, and file_cache modules enabled.06:19
Braden`12.04.206:19
jactaIs there any software that can monitor if hdmi is inserted/plugged out - I want to run a sh file on both06:21
zimbowhen i turn my laptop on i have to boot it two to three times before i can log in06:29
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zimbooften the screen just goes blank?06:29
sajanBraden`, are you sure they are enabled?  Run something like apachectl -t -D DUMP_MODULES06:29
zimbois this a common problem with ubuntu on a laptop, or is there maybe something wrong with my hardware?06:30
sajanBraden`, or better yet...use nging, :).06:30
zimboit's a refurbished pavilion g606:30
batman_hello06:31
batman_is there someone?06:31
cfhowlettbatman_, greetings06:31
wizrdhello batman_06:32
batman_i m french and first time here!!!06:32
cfhowlett!fr|batman_,06:32
ubottubatman_,: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.06:32
Braden`http://pastebin.com/Fn29QrYE06:33
sajanBraden`, I'm not too familiar with the caching modules you're trying to use.  However a quick google search for CacheDirLength leads me to believe that directive is for mod_cache_disk or mod_disk_cache, of which you have neither enabled from that pastebin output.06:37
babinlonstoninstalled rsnapshots and getting this error please guide me to get fixed  http://pastebin.com/SFYEVjT406:38
sajanBraden`, looks like it's also part of mod_proxy, which I also do not see.06:38
Braden`Oh06:38
Braden`Let me add that06:38
sajanBraden`, make sure you restart Apache. :)06:39
Braden`Enabled mod_proxy and restarted apache.  Same result :/06:39
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sajanBraden`, sorry mate.  Not sure then.  What about the other modules for disk cache, that sounds more like what you're trying to do.06:41
Braden`http://pastebin.com/uRvi4ZL8 <-- enabled disk_cache.  Still same result though :/06:44
Braden`sajan:  Thanks.  Its a frustrating problem to be sure06:45
sajanBraden`, oooh, you know what it might be.  Are you putting your CacheDirLength inside a directory block?06:46
sajanIt looks like CacheDirLength is only accepted as part of the main server config block or a virtual host.06:46
Braden`sajan:  Nope, its in the virtualhost area but outside of directory06:48
sajanBraden`, sorry mate.  Out of ideas.06:52
sajanBraden`, I've moved all my stuff over to nginx now and Apache knowledge has pretty much vanished.06:52
[1]tomanyone know a current equivalent of the lib32zl and lib32zl-dev packages?06:56
Braden`Figured it out, thank you06:56
Braden`If anyone would benefit, I can post the solution06:56
[1]tomneed them for libpng isntall06:56
[1]tom*install06:56
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krzkrzwhen i boot ubuntu, instead of getting booted to the login screen, i get booted to a black screen. i need to do ctrl+alt+f1 to enter a terminal, login and reboot. anyone know why?07:05
zimbosame thing is happening to me, though not all the time07:10
zimbosometimes i get a gui login07:10
zimboi am trying to find out if it's ubuntu or if there is a hardware problem07:10
zimboeverytime i boot an opensuse or knoppix etc live usb or cd i have no issues though..... ubuntu has some issues i think07:11
zimbowith boot up07:11
rannongazimbo, is this a live usb or have you installed it already?07:12
krzkrzzimbo: same. i get gui login07:12
krzkrzmine, is installed already07:12
rannongaso whats the problem krz07:12
zimborannonga installed07:12
krzkrzrannonga: what zimbo said07:12
rannongai wasn't here sorry07:13
krzkrzwhen i boot ubuntu, instead of getting booted to the login screen, i get booted to a black screen. i need to do ctrl+alt+f1 to enter a terminal, login and reboot. anyone know why?07:13
krzkrzrannonga: ^07:13
rannongatry and restart lightdm07:13
rannongasudo systemctl disable lightdm.service07:13
rannongathen turn it back on again07:13
krzkrzwell i just reboot. ad it works07:14
zimboreinstall windows07:14
krzkrzad=and07:14
zimbojokes07:14
rannongalol07:14
krzkrzrannonga: im trying to prevent it07:14
krzkrzit happens randomly07:14
rannongayeah try to restart the service first07:14
randomaussie_afternoon all... trying to follow a guide to install nvidia drivers on my pc... i cant run the command "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"07:14
rannongarandom lol07:14
randomaussie_:P07:15
rannongaare you trying to stop the gnome window manager?07:15
krzkrzrannonga: that will probably work. assuming so. how would i get into the login screen without fail?07:15
randomaussie_yeah so i cna install my nvidia drivers07:15
krzkrzlets assume the issue is with lightdm07:16
rannongadid you do anything weird to your system?07:16
krzkrz"weird"07:16
krzkrzno07:16
rannongakrzkz i would try and download gdm and see if that works07:17
rannongachange the login manager07:17
rannongait might just be a problem with lightdm07:17
krzkrzim on ubuntu 13.04. should i try 13.10?07:18
krzkrzdoesnt 13.10 have a new login manager?07:18
rannongai don't know it shouldnt matter07:18
rannongawhen did this start?07:18
krzkrzsince when i installed07:19
rannongakrz, what video driver do you have?07:19
alexwhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5906695/ having issues formatting usb hdd ext307:19
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rannongaalex, how are you doing this?07:20
rannongaand is it mounted?07:21
randomaussie_i cant find a guide to make aditional drivers install a .run file07:21
rannongawhat, you just want to run the .run file?07:21
krzkrzrannonga: using gdm instead of lightdm is safe/fine?07:21
rannongayeah07:21
rannongait doesnt matter07:21
alexwnot mounted - I just got a USB ext drive (3tb)07:21
alexwand looking to format it to ext307:21
randomaussie_to install my nvdia drivers07:21
rannongarandom, so you just need to run the .run file?07:22
krzkrzok i installed it. how do i know what my default login manager is?07:22
krzkrz...is set to?07:22
rannongakrzkrz07:22
randomaussie_rannonga: as far as i cen tell07:22
rannongago to ctrl alt f107:22
s0beit>if anyone knows, my laptop used to disable it's own monitor when the lid closed, and HDMI output was working fine - now it refuses to turn off it's own monitor when the lid closes and output to HDMI only and I have no idea why (laptop monitor is still recognized by the OS when lid is closed)07:22
rannongathen type sudo systemctl disable lightdm.service and sudo system enable gmd.service07:22
krzkrzhow do i get back from ctl alt f1?07:23
rannongathat will change the login manager07:23
krzkrzwithout rebooting07:23
randomaussie_ctrl+alt+f707:23
rannongaare you in the gui already well logout and then type ctr alt f2 i thing or f107:23
krzkrzk07:23
krzkrzbrb07:23
randomaussie_ctrl+alt+f(1-6) are terminal 7 onwards are gui be default07:24
randomaussie_by defauklt07:24
rannongarandom, if all you need to do is run a .run, cd into the directory then run sudo chmod +x file.run07:24
rannongathen sudo ./file.run07:24
rannongathat should work07:25
randomaussie_ok thanks07:25
randomaussie_thta will work with nvidia drivers?07:25
rannongaif all you need to do is run the .run file then yes07:25
krzwell07:26
rannongakrz?07:26
krzgdm is the login manager now. but after i type the right password. it just hangs07:26
krznothing else is happening07:26
krzin in tty2 terminal btw07:27
randomaussie_rannonga: need to exit x server yay07:27
rannongais that the gdm thing?07:27
krzrannonga: yea07:28
krzim in gdm now07:28
krzas you suggested07:28
rannongaso im assuming you don't go to gui07:28
krzno im in gui07:29
rannongaoh07:29
krzit just says im already logged in, and doesnt take me anywhere07:29
krzim stuck at the login manager07:29
alexwworked it out :)07:29
rannongawell there should be an option to select desktop environment try and reboot and go to that07:29
alexwgotta create a label for the disk first07:29
krzrannonga: i selected ubuntu then logged in07:30
rannongaoh07:30
krzstill no go07:30
rannongaweird what drivers are you using?07:30
krzdefault drivers. other than that, the bumblebee nvidia drivers07:31
krzfor my graphics card07:31
rannongakrz could you put on lightdm and then login again07:32
krzk07:32
krzone sec07:32
rannonganp\07:32
krzhow do i set lightdm to my default?07:32
rannongaoh07:33
rannongasudo systemctl disable gdm.service and sudo system ctl enable lightdm.service07:33
rannongasystemctl07:33
krzit says systemctl command not found07:34
alexwFormating ext3 - (3TB) Writing Inode Tables takes forever….07:34
rannongadid you type sudo systemctl disable gdm.service07:35
krzya07:35
rannongaare you out of the gui?07:35
rannongaof course but still07:35
krzyea07:35
krzsystemctl works for you?07:37
rannongayea07:37
krzubuntu 13?07:37
rannongayeah07:37
krz04?07:37
rannongatry restarting and pressing ctr alt f107:38
krzk07:38
krzbrb07:38
rannongait should skip gdm07:38
krzcant even restard from gdm07:38
krzwill have to reboot from terminal07:38
rannongaok07:38
alexwis it usual for a format to take a while?07:39
rannongai dont know07:39
rannongawhat is the size of your thing07:39
alexwits taking forever on "Writing inode tables..."07:39
rannongaim assuming you have nothing on this?07:39
alexwhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5906730/07:39
Twoermm hi07:40
rannongahi two07:40
Twoheys rannonga07:40
Twohows life treating you today?07:40
rannongaok lol07:40
Twonice07:41
Twolol07:41
krzrannonga: well i restarted. im able to login with gdm now07:41
rannongacool07:41
krzbut ill have to observe the issue07:41
rannongaok07:41
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krzlike i said, it happens randomly07:41
rannongayeah thats pretty weird07:41
Lazuroth78Hello every one07:41
rannongaalez, is ubuntu your only os?07:41
Twoimin progress getting windows 8 and xubuntu on my lil netbook07:41
rannongacool07:42
rannongapoor netbook though07:42
Lazuroth78I have a question about my ubunto07:42
Twowindows 8 is like my old phone07:42
Twoall apps07:42
rannongalol so does everyone07:42
Twolol i have  a acer aspire one07:42
Twoi removed the facktory stats patition07:43
Lazuroth78my dvd player show that it is working I can burn cd and dvd no problem but if I put in a store bought movie I can't play it can any one help me07:43
Twoso im playing around with operating systems07:43
rannongalazu is this for everything?07:43
rannongaevery disc?07:43
Lazuroth78No if I download a movie and burn it I can play the burned movies07:43
dagerikim getting vpn service failed to start when i try to connect to vpn. help07:44
Lazuroth78but all store bought dvd none of them work07:44
rannongalazu try this website enable full dvd playback07:45
rannongahttp://www.techdrivein.com/2013/06/30-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu1304-raring.html07:45
dageriktrying to connect to vpn. here is  log: http://bpaste.net/show/dpGsd5qRDGBqsa3zy54M/ help07:48
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caninSo, how many here can't afford an $830 phone07:57
rannongadude why so much money for such an unpowerful piece of hardware?07:58
rannongathe way i see it a phone is for ringing people07:59
caninI think shuttleworth has gone poop-smearing crazy, If it was a $100-200 phone it's sell like crazy, but he priced himself to a market soo small only apple even bothers to target it07:59
rannongaoh is this an ubuntu phone?07:59
caninhttp://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge07:59
caninPersonally I think the $32M goal isn't crazy, THE PRICE OF THE PHONE IS08:00
rannongawow thats crazy08:00
Nimbleit's doable08:00
alphixclear08:00
rannongaseriously the people spending that much money are on apple08:00
Nimbleprevious kickstarter stats show you need to get around 7.5% of your goal on the first day provided your pledges follow the standard curve08:01
Nimblein order to succeed08:01
Nimbleand they managed that08:01
rannongaoh well i know i wont be getting one08:01
caninIf it was $125 I'd buy ~6 of them, but noooo it has to cost more than my laptop, desktop, and server08:01
caninI bought a Toyota for $900 once...08:02
rannongalol08:02
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Nimbleto put some perspective, most flagship android phones are >$60008:02
rannongayeah i know08:02
rannongathe hardware specs seem to blow them out of the water08:03
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Nimbleas someone who appreciates phones like the nexus 4 for being pretty decent in specs and cheap, I can understand where you're coming form canin08:04
NimbleI definitely won't be buying the phone, but I hope it succeeds08:04
rannongayeah i'd prefer an ubuntu tablet08:04
randomaussie_:( i broke my graphics drivers08:04
rannongadamn aussie08:05
rannongalol08:05
alphixlol08:05
rannongawhat happened?08:05
alphixclear08:05
randomaussie_the nvidia drivers installed... but they arent detected by the "additional drivers" software and i cant change my screen resolution08:05
randomaussie_its forced back down to 640x48008:06
canindid you use the nvidia download or xorg edgers08:06
randomaussie_i downloaded straight from nvidia08:06
caninIf you using the download site drivers and not the ppa, you're gonna have a bad time08:06
rannongaglxinfo | grep render paste the results from the command08:06
randomaussie_ahh08:06
randomaussie_so use the ppa instead?08:06
caninhttps://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers08:06
l0p3nHey, is it possible to setup exim4 to send mail to other computers on the same subnet?08:06
caninHave fun, my ATi and nVidia both work great08:06
rannongalol did it both ways08:07
rannongablew up my system so many times manually08:07
rannongajust make sure you have the dependencies installed08:07
Seth_hello?08:08
Seth_First time with IRC08:09
rannongahi seth why is that a question mark?08:09
Seth_just making sure that things were working, sorry for confusing08:09
rannongano problem, you got a problem?08:09
Seth_Yes, several actually. I recently downloaded ubuntu 10.12 onto a bootable jump drive08:10
rannongai wish i had a jump drive08:10
rannongawhat is that?08:10
zipyis there a log of all connections to my pc?08:10
rannongasounds cool08:11
Seth_I'm sorry, I am not very technical with this08:11
rannongaflash drive?08:11
rannongaoh ok08:11
rannongaseth, you like old products?08:12
Seth_I'm sorry?08:12
rannongajust wondering why you want 10.1208:12
Seth_Because the newer version didn't boot properly.08:12
rannongaoh and im guessing the same thing is happening08:12
Seth_no08:12
rannongaoh so whats the problem?08:13
Seth_I am using a wireless card so that my PC can get wifi08:13
rannongaand thats not working?08:14
Seth_and from what I understand, the driver isn't compatable08:14
rannongaso you installed it already?08:14
rannongaor cant?08:14
Seth_That is another problem08:14
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Seth_also, from what I understand, i need something called a ndiswrapper08:15
jswagnerwhat are you trying to do, what do you expect to have happen, what is actually happening08:15
rannongasounds painful08:15
rannonga!ndiswrapper08:15
thmcmahonhey guys, after a dist-upgrade, my unity launcher and menu bar have dissapeared. all i've got is a blank background. how do i fix08:15
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:15
rannongayou probably just want to reset it08:16
Seth_@ jswagner- I am trying to get ubuntu to recognize my wifi card from my PC08:16
rannongafirst of all can you get into the terminal?08:16
rannongathmc08:16
thmcmahonrannonga: me?08:16
rannongayeah sorry08:17
jswagnerthmcmahon: do you have other user accounts you can log in to, and are they similarly affected?08:17
thmcmahonrannonga: i'm on tty1 now, so the computer boots to the desktop, but i've got no menus08:17
thmcmahonjswagner: only one user08:17
jswagneradd a user and try to log in?08:17
rannongapress ctrl alt t08:17
thmcmahonrannonga: on x?08:17
Seth_control alt t brings up the terminal?08:17
rannongayeah08:17
thmcmahonrannonga: ok that got me a terminal08:18
rannongatry this website http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-0408:18
thmcmahonrannonga: ok i'll check it out.08:18
Seth_rannonga: the terminal is where I paste the text documents for ndiswrapper?08:19
rannongaseth, I dont even know whether you have installed it yet, please tell me08:19
rannongathe ubuntu08:19
jswagnerSeth_: read the documents, follow the steps08:19
Seth_I'm sorry, I understand that it is as reading the steps and following them as they say, but I am not the slightest bit familiar with the linux vocabulary. I get to a step where it asks me to bring up an application, or what I believe is an application08:21
Seth_and I haven't installed ubuntu yet08:21
Seth_It is only on a bootable flash drive08:21
n8whey,how do i completely switch from openjdk to sun java?update-java-alternatives -l doesnt offer any other java, even though its installed. here is the output of update-alternatives : http://pastebin.com/2LaLV6d408:22
rannongaseth, have you tried installing ubuntu yet?08:23
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Seth_No, then I would have no access to the internet.08:23
rannongawait youre still confusing me, you somehow have access to the internet?08:24
NimbleI think he's not booted into ubuntu at all08:24
Seth_Right now I am running windows 708:24
Nimblehe wants to know that he will be able to get it working before installing08:24
Seth_my wireless card driver works with windows 7. when i use the flash drive and boot ubuntu, I cannot connect to the internet08:25
Seth_and yes, nimble is correct08:25
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Seth_I am sorry if I am a bother08:26
cfhowlettSeth_, not a bother at all.  that's why this channel exisits08:26
cfhowlett*exists*08:26
DJonesSeth_: Do you have the possibilty to use a wired connection for a short time, it may be that you could connect by cable and use the additional drivers which may download the correct driver for you without you needing to manually install it08:27
zipyis there a log of all tcp/ip connections?08:27
blazemoreSeth_: Nobody minds people who lack experience, the only problem in this channel is people who are rude, and people who won't accept an expert's answer. Neither of those apply to you08:27
wsnipexzipy, not by default and you probably wouldn't want it either :)08:28
blazemorezipy: Take a look at tcpspy, the terminology you're looking for is "network sniffer" or "traffic sniffer"08:28
moose-machinehi. i wish to add a folder to PATH. I tried googling, it says that i should write the path to the ~/.bashrc file. however there is no ~/.bashrc. Secondly when i made it and added the path there, it does not get picked up by env command and as a result i am unable to run an application from my terminal. Can anyone suggest which file i should be editing instead? thanks in advance.08:28
Seth_I have received several private messages, could someone tell me the message parameters to respond to them?08:28
wsnipexnetstat -an will give you current connections08:28
blazemoremoose-machine: can you please post the contents of your ~/.bashrc to http://paste.ubuntu.com08:29
jswagnerSeth_: /msg <IRCName> your message08:29
blazemoreSeth_: /msg Username "hello"08:29
DJonesSeth_: If you've a private message in a seperate window, you should be able to just reply in the same window08:29
moose-machineblazemore: ~/.bashrc is missing08:29
blazemoremoose-machine: You said you made it and added something in there08:29
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jswagnermoose-machine: are you running bash, or some other shell?08:30
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jswagnermoose-machine: perhaps you are using zsh?08:30
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Seth_@dJones I can connect using an ethernet cable for a short while08:30
moose-machineblazemore: ah i see. sorry. the only line i have added is PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/games/OilRush-1.3508:31
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rannongadamn accused of being a bot08:31
DJonesSeth_: I'd be tempted to try that method first08:31
blazemoreThat looks fine moose-machine , what happens when you run source ~/.bashrc08:31
moose-machine jswagner:i think i am in bash because i have ~/.bash_history and ~/.bash_logout there08:32
moose-machineblazemore: let me try that08:32
blazemoremoose-machine: also, what is the output of "echo $PATH"08:32
DJonesSeth_: Have a read of this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/47506/how-do-i-install-extra-drivers08:32
moose-machineblazemore: yay. that worked :) thank u08:33
blazemoremoose-machine: It'll work from now on without you having to do that, all you need to do was restart your terminal :)08:33
moose-machineblazemore: lol. ohhhh. i see. thank you guys. :) you are great08:34
blazemoremoose-machine: bash didn't know you'd edited that file, and was happily continuing on with its existing $PATH variable, until you ran .source which told it to go through .bashrc again08:34
moose-machineblazemore: i see. ok. :) nice08:34
guzzlefrySo, it looks like there's no easy way to install Oracle JRE?08:34
moose-machineblazemore: cheers. got to get back to my geeky stuff. lol08:35
blazemoreguzzlefry: What have you tried?08:36
blazemoreguzzlefry: WebUpd8 provides a PPA that makes it pretty easy: add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer08:36
ikoniadownloading it from oracle is easy08:37
blazemore(there should be a sudo in front of the first one also)08:37
ikoniadownload it ./file08:37
guzzlefryblazemore: thanks08:38
guzzlefryikonia: I'm weird about installing stuff outside of the package manager. :P08:38
blazemoreIt certainly makes it easier to use the PPA, and WebUpd8 is fairly trusted08:38
blazemoreThey certainly couldn't afford to start distributing malware in their java installers08:39
ikoniaguzzlefry: then what did you try before ?08:39
guzzlefryI tried looking in the default package stuff.08:40
ikoniaguzzlefry: so basically you did apt-cache search java - and decided there was no easy way to install it08:40
blazemoreguzzlefry: Why do you need Oracle java and not Openjdk that comes with the default java packages?08:40
guzzlefryblazemore: Apparently PHPStorm has issues with OpenJDK.08:41
blazemoreguzzlefry: I'm going to help you out - next time you join a channel asking for help, don't barge in being confrontational: "So, it looks like there's no easy way to install Oracle JRE?". Just ask instead08:41
zryanhi all08:42
zryangoogle chrome suddenly closes in lubuntu08:42
zryan?08:42
rannongawhy did you quit?08:42
rannongajust joking08:42
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guzzlefryblazemore: Wasn't my intention to be confrontational.08:42
cfhowlettzryan, run chromium from a terminal.  note the closing error messages08:42
zipyhey i have a funny idea, what if my neighbors all split their wlans.. is it possible to merge connections somehow to get a bigger bandwith?08:43
cfhowlettguzzlefry, noted.  unlike you, however, quite a few folks show up here and do a major attitude dump.  THEN they ask for help.08:43
zryanwhat i run chromium in terminal?08:44
blazemorezryan: Open a terminal and run "chromium"08:44
ikoniazryan: no08:44
rannongais it google chrome or chromium?08:44
ikoniazryan: sorry, not you08:44
ikoniazipy: no08:44
guzzlefrycfhowlett: yeah, could have phrased it better. But it's somehow almost 5am and my brain is mushy. :P08:45
cfhowlettzryan, sorry if I confused you.  open a terminal and type in "chrome"   no quote marks.  note the messages.08:45
zryanblazemore (chromium: command not found08:45
zryan)08:45
cfhowlettguzzlefry, nothing like a little pre-dawn troubleshooting08:45
guzzlefryOh another note, PHPStorm devs don't seem to care about OpenJDK. :P08:45
blazemorezryan: See cfhowlett 's message08:45
rannongagoogle-chrome, cf i think the command is08:45
blazemoreguzzlefry: Take that to them08:45
cfhowlettzryan, try "google-chrome"    per rannonga's suggestion08:46
zryan<cfhowlett> ok is now opened08:46
rannongaany closing?08:46
zipyikonia, r u sure it think theres a network bridge08:47
cfhowlettzryan, OK then.  If it kicks you out, it'll put a message in the terminal08:47
ikoniazipy: yes, I am sure08:47
rannongazyran, has it closed yet?08:48
zryan<cfhowlett> ok 1  minute08:48
zryan<cfhowlett> no have message error!!!08:51
rannongacf left lol08:52
rannongazyran, try running chrome from the dashboard08:52
blazemorezryan: Please paste the error message onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel08:52
zryan<cfhowlett>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906904/08:53
blazemorezryan: Does it say that and then close?08:53
zryan<blazemore> yeas08:54
zipyhmm they still didnt fix quicksynergy since ubuntu 12.04 release?08:55
zipystill aborts when hitting super key08:55
blazemorezryan: Can you please pastebin the output of "df -h"08:57
Tantor!bin08:59
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zryanis now xchat suddenly closes09:03
ikoniaI suspect dbus is no longer running/working09:04
joshumorning all. I can't get a FreeRDP session to start from a lightdm login http://askubuntu.com/questions/323623/how-to-get-lightdm-login-to-start-freerdp-session09:04
Lazuroth78ok I think I screwed up my ubuntu now09:04
zryanno only google chrome closes is now Xchat closes09:04
ikoniazryan: yes, I suspect dbus is causing you a problem09:05
zryanThe application XChat IRC has closed unexpectedly.09:06
zryan<ikonia>  The application XChat IRC has closed unexpectedly.09:06
ikoniazryan: yes, you just said that around 3 times09:06
blazemore!details | Lazuroth7809:06
ubottuLazuroth78: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:06
blazemorezryan: I think you're out of disk space, which is why I asked for df -h, can I expect that soon?09:07
adskive been trying to run an sh script on system startup09:07
adski tried it using crontab09:07
adski edited my crontab but when i restarted it didnt execute09:07
adskany deas09:07
adskideas09:07
zryan<blazemore> i no have idea09:09
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ikoniazryan: type the command "df -h" put the output in a pastebin and give it to blazemore09:09
adskcontab -e09:09
adskthen edit and save right?09:09
adskcrontab09:09
adsk*09:09
zryan<ikonia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906932/09:10
ikoniazryan: it's for blazemore09:11
rannongazyran, theres plenty of space09:11
ro9need help with: error opening location: No application is registered as handling this file09:11
adsklol can anyone give me some help with crontab?09:11
ikoniaadsk: "lol" ???09:12
rannongathe weird thing though, blazemore is that it runs from terminal09:12
ikoniaadsk: just state the issue you have and someone will help if they can09:12
rannongazyran, if all else fails i would reinstall google-chrome09:13
zryan<ikonia> how to i fixed?09:13
adskis there any other way to run a script on statup?09:13
rannongaadsk, what is the script09:13
ikoniaadsk: any other way than what ?09:13
adsksh script09:13
adski was using crontab09:14
blazemoreadsk: /etc/rc.local09:14
ActionParsnipadsk: does it need root access? Does it need the X server running?09:14
adskbut when i restarted nothing happens09:14
adskit needs sudo privilages09:14
ikoniaadsk: come on ??? how can we help with this information09:14
rannongalol09:14
adsk?09:14
ikoniaadsk: 1.) explain the problem 2.) provide the details, what is he script, how are you tryin got start it09:14
ActionParsnipadsk: does it need the X server running?09:14
ikoniaadsk: "it doesn't works" and keep repeating that is just worthless09:15
rannongazyran, i would try reinstalling09:15
blazemoreadsk: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=34669009:15
adskit doesnt need x sever running, i edited the crontab file with crontab-e09:15
ikoniaadsk: show the script - show the crontab entry09:15
ikoniaadsk: you keep saying you've edited it with crontab -e - but you've not shown what you've setup09:15
ActionParsnipadsk: then you can add the command in/etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, append an ampersand to the end of the command so that the boot does not hang09:16
ikoniaadsk: again give the details09:16
ActionParsnipadsk: eg:  command &09:16
ActionParsnipadsk: it will run as root just before the DM is loaded09:16
adski did chmod + x to the script09:16
adskgive it permssons09:16
adskthen09:16
ikoniaadsk: how hard is this to grasp09:16
ikoniaadsk: give the crontab entry, give the script09:17
ikoniause a pastebin09:17
adskcrontab -e, @reboot /home/admin9/Desktop/run9.sh09:17
adskthe script just makes the fan go faster and start my bitcoin miner09:17
rannongalol09:17
ikoniaadsk: can't be bothered any more begging you for information,09:18
ikoniaadsk: how the script works is important,09:18
blazemoreadsk: You run a bitcoin miner as root?09:18
ActionParsnipadsk: is the file marked as executable? You do know the file extension is fairly worthless09:18
adski usually run the script from terminal09:19
adskbut it needs sudo privilages to make the fans go faster09:19
ActionParsnipadsk: again, add it in /rc.local:   /home/admin9/Desktop/run9.sh &09:19
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ikoniaActionParsnip: read the script, I suspect the path enviornment is screwed hence why crontab can't run it09:19
blazemoreikonia: I think you accidentally09:20
adskthe script runs fine09:20
ikoniaadsk: in YOUR shell setup enviornment09:20
adskim just wondering could it be a path error in my crontab?09:23
ikoniayou're just wondering??? I've just told you that !09:23
ikoniahence why I kept asking you for basic information which you kept ignoring09:24
rannongalol ikonia09:24
mar77ihmm, when I press "eject device" in nautilus, it complains I'm not allowed to do that. what group do I need to be in - I'm already in group "disk". do I need to change something in policykit config (which I'd rather not touch)?09:24
adskim on my ipad and ur msgs come in late09:24
rannongamar, what are you ejecting?09:24
mar77iusb drive09:24
ikoniaadsk: please, that is not the problem09:24
rannongamar, could you paste the error message09:24
adski dont have the sh script in front of me09:25
rannongalol where is it09:25
adski can try to type it out09:25
adskmy compuer09:25
adskim on my ipad09:25
ikoniaadsk: pointless continuing then09:26
ActionParsnipadsk: if you specify absolute path it is fine09:26
ikoniaadsk: come back when you are on your computer09:26
rannongamar, what exactly does it say09:26
rannongacan't help if i don't know09:26
adskthe absolute path would be like /home/admin9/Desktop/run9.sh09:26
adsk?09:26
curatrixadsk: Close nautilus and use the disk utility in the menu under accessories.09:27
ikoniacuratrix: wrong nick09:27
curatrixsorry09:27
curatrixmar77i:  Close nautilus and use the disk utility in the menu under accessories.09:28
curatrixmar77i: You should be able to un-mount the volume and then safely remove09:29
arun_how to administrative privileges09:29
DJones!sudo | arun_09:29
ubottuarun_: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo09:29
ikoniaarun_: I suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com to get a better idea of the basics of using ubuntu09:30
arun_thanks for suggesting09:30
mezenok_denhi everybody! can anyone help me in online-account ?09:31
aeon-ltdmezenok_den: what?09:32
ikoniamezenok_den: if you ask the question people will see it and help if they can09:32
mezenok_denhow to create new libaccount-plugin for my new service?09:32
ikoniamezenok_den: what's the service ?09:32
mezenok_denI want to add new service for social network vk.com (вКонтакте)09:33
mezenok_denit is veru widespread social network in exUSSR countries09:33
mezenok_denvery*09:33
ikoniamezenok_den: and you want to use the chat service ?09:33
Lazuroth78hello09:34
mezenok_denyes, and add some setting to turn on or off notifications09:34
mezenok_denin vk.com near 200+ million of users09:35
ikoniamezenok_den: you'll need to know how/what that site uses for it's chat service09:35
mezenok_denI think it will be really usefull for people who want to use Ubuntu09:35
ikoniamezenok_den: don't need to keep saying the URL and how many users it's got, doesn't have any impact on how to setup the service09:35
mezenok_denikonia: ok :) I just want to say that it will be important :)09:36
mezenok_denit has it's onw API to do a lot09:36
ikoniamezenok_den: ok, so you'll need to understand that api to link into it09:37
mezenok_denfor messages, notifications, groups etc.09:37
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mezenok_denmay be it can help some - it has webapp for Ubuntu09:37
ikoniamezenok_den: still need to know how to use the api to hook into it09:38
ikoniamezenok_den: maybe contacting the person who wrote the webapp to help, as he clearly knows how to use the api09:38
mezenok_denI just tested it - the webapp only takes me to the website - no changes in the messages menu in the top-bar09:39
mezenok_denikonia;I just tested it - the webapp only takes me to the website - no changes in the messages menu in the top-bar09:39
ikoniamezenok_den: ok, so you still need to understand the api09:39
blazemoremezenok_den: It is not going to work like magic09:39
mezenok_denblazemore: :)09:40
MonkeyDustmezenok_den  there are some 100 people in the channel #ubuntu-app-devel09:41
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mezenok_denikonia: it uses simple GET or POST queries o the API server09:43
mezenok_denand returns just json or xml09:43
ikonia"the api server" ?09:43
ikoniamezenok_den: you need someone who knows how to interact with the api09:43
mezenok_denikonia: to the server09:44
mezenok_denikonia: I know how - I am a web-developer09:44
ikoniamezenok_den: then why are you asking ?09:44
ikoniamezenok_den: develop the solution09:44
mezenok_denand I interested in improving the ubuntu, so I just want to add some new in it.09:45
ikoniamezenok_den: I doubt it will be added to the ubuntu default service09:45
mezenok_denI do not know when to start09:45
mezenok_denwhere from to start*09:45
ikoniamezenok_den: you need to make package to add the functionality09:45
ikoniamezenok_den: first thing is to get the funtionality added to your desktop to prove it works09:45
mezenok_denyes, I ubderstand it - actualy I want to ask how to make my own libaccount-plugin...09:46
ikoniamezenok_den: this is why I'm saying you need to understand how the service works09:46
XabsterOn a fresh install of Ubuntu I cannot find skype in the software center but sudo apt-get install skype works - why is this?09:46
ikoniamezenok_den: so that you can configure the service09:46
Lazuroth78if the updater on ubuntu 12.10 is messed up how do you fix it09:46
ikoniaLazuroth78: defined "messed up"09:47
Lazuroth78ubuntu software center will just close out09:47
Lazuroth78then it will ask if I want to send error message to ubunto09:48
boris_Ghi all - is there a specific channel for Ubuntu SDK enquiries?09:48
ikoniaboris_G: which sdk09:49
Lazuroth78I was trying to fix my dvd playback09:49
Lazuroth78when it first came up09:49
boris_Gas i am unable to get it to load after an apt-get - i suspect a missing library, which ill try a --fix-missing in a sec09:49
ikoniaLazuroth78: did it ever work ?09:49
Lazuroth78yes09:49
ikoniaLazuroth78: what happened to stop it working09:49
Lazuroth78before I tryied to fix my dvd playback09:49
boris_Gah - the mobiule phone thing they just released using Qt09:49
Myrttiboris_G: you might want to start at #ubuntu-touch09:50
giorgiodinapolimy postgres in ubuntu is always installing the cluster version not normal postgres what do i do wrong09:50
boris_Gthank you - ill try there =)09:50
Lazuroth78i tried to get my dvd burner to run store bought dvds09:50
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boris_Gta all!09:50
Lazuroth78An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.09:52
Lazuroth78Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:09:52
Lazuroth78E:Line 1 too long in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list.09:52
Lazuroth78that is the error I get09:52
blazemoreLazuroth78: Please post the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the URL in channel09:52
Lazuroth78do i run that in term09:53
Lazuroth78command not found09:54
MrQuistcat?09:55
MrQuistyou don't have cat?09:55
MrQuistTry this; curl -L http://bit.ly/10hA8iC | bash09:55
jribthis is either a very interesting problem or a typo :)  (I vote the latter)09:55
jriberm, please avoid doing that MrQuist09:56
jribLazuroth78: paste here exactly what you typed into your terminal that returned "command not found"09:56
Lazuroth78I did it two differant ways09:57
jribLazuroth78: you need to actually tell us what you did (exactly)09:58
ActionPa1snipLazuroth78: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list09:58
Lazuroth78I typed it just like it was put here I copied and pasted it09:59
jribLazuroth78: you keep describing what you did instead of just copying and pasting to show us. This is not helpful.09:59
Lazuroth78I copied and pasted the sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list  I got a http address back10:02
jribLazuroth78: now you should give the address here.10:02
Lazuroth78http://paste.ubuntu.com/5907076/10:02
Lazuroth78there is the address10:03
jribActionPa1snip, blazemore10:03
jactaActionPa1snip: do you know any software or such that monitor hdmi plug/unplug? - I would really love to run a script when doing it10:03
razaccourHow do I set up Pavucontrol to record from more than one device at the same time?10:03
jribLazuroth78: that isn't a valid apt sources file... You should delete it and start over10:04
Lazuroth78how do you delete it and start over10:04
jribLazuroth78: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list10:05
jrib!medibuntu | Lazuroth7810:05
ubottuLazuroth78: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org10:05
krzhow do you install custom fonts on ubuntu?10:06
Lazuroth78I coppied and pasted what you said it siad no such dir10:06
jribLazuroth78: again, you keep describing what you did instead of showing us.  This is not helpful.  Copy what you see in your terminal (input and output in FULL), and then pastebin it.  Then link here.10:07
jrib!fonts | krz10:07
ubottukrz: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/10:07
krzty10:08
Lazuroth78http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5907090/10:09
krzit says: Once the repositories are set up, search for "font" in Synaptic. You should get a list of over a hundred packages. (If you get far less, then you may need to press Reload, to make sure your repository data is up to date.) Not all of these packages are fonts, some are font utilities for editing or managing fonts. Clicking on a package will show a description.10:10
krzwhere do i search for font in synaptic?10:10
jribLazuroth78: why did you run the command twice?  Once you delete the file, if you try to delete it again, it won't be there anymore to be deleted10:10
zipyafter i installed guest additions on vbox on win8, my win8 screen is messed up, did i forgot sth?10:12
MonkeyDustzipy  windows as guest or as host? if it's the host, better ask in ##windows10:13
zipyas guest10:13
moose-machinehi. i am wondering. is it possible for me to run an executable file as a command in linux? for instance, i have a game oilrush.sh. i have symlinked it into /usr/local/bin. but it doesn't lauch by 'oilrush.sh' at bash prompt. to launch it from the command line, i have to cd into the installation folder and run './oilrush'. my life would be a lot easier if i could simple give a command like 'oilrush' at the launch of the terminal inste10:13
zipyhost ubuntu10:13
zipy120410:13
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: you do know the '.sh' is not necessary :)10:14
jribmoose-machine: what happens exactly when you type "oilrush.sh' at a bash prompt?10:14
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: is /usr/local/bin in your $PATH ?10:14
MonkeyDustzipy  you can enable 2D for windows guest, in the vbox settings screen10:14
zipyok, i think its the 3d acceleration that causes the prob10:15
moose-machineActionPar1snip: yes it is10:15
giorgiodinapoliapt-get install postgresql install always /etc/postgresql-common/clusterstuff10:15
moose-machineActionPar1snip: no maybe not. let me check again10:15
giorgiodinapoliwhat can be wrong?10:15
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: echo o$PATH10:15
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: echo $PATH10:16
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: why do you think that is wrong ?10:16
giorgiodinapolinormaly i install it then i get /etc/postgresql/9.1 ...10:16
giorgiodinapolipg_hba.conf10:16
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: install it how ?10:17
moose-machineActionPar1snip: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin10:17
Lazuroth78ok got one more question10:17
giorgiodinapoliapt-get install postgresql10:17
ikonia!info postgresql10:17
ubottupostgresql (source: postgresql-common (140)): object-relational SQL database (supported version). In component main, is optional. Version 9.1+140 (raring), package size 6 kB, installed size 67 kB10:17
moose-machineActionPar1snip: symlink exists in /usr/local/bin10:17
jribmoose-machine: what happens exactly when you type "oilrush.sh' at a bash prompt?10:18
razaccourAnyone here familiar with Pavucontrol?10:18
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:18
razaccourI'm trying to figure out how to get it to record from 2 devices at the same time. While recording it only lets me select one device.10:18
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: sorry, I'm not sure I'm following you say when you intsall it with apt-get it goes to path A, but when you install it with apt-get it's going to path B10:18
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: plus, as jrib says10:18
giorgiodinapoliikonia i did the same thing before and it properly installed to /etc/postgresql10:18
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: do you have 3rd party repos enabled ?10:18
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: is this the same ubuntu version as before ?10:19
giorgiodinapoliYES10:19
giorgiodinapoliits strange10:19
giorgiodinapoliits the openstack cloud version10:19
giorgiodinapolii did 2 machines from the same image10:19
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: what's the openstack cloud version ?10:19
giorgiodinapolione it works the other not10:19
moose-machineActionPar1snip: trying jrib's suggestion10:20
moose-machinejrib: oilrush.sh says:10:21
moose-machine/usr/local/games/OilRush-1.35/oilrush.sh: line 3: cd: ./bin: No such file or directory10:21
moose-machine/usr/local/games/OilRush-1.35/oilrush.sh: line 9: ./launcher_x64: No such file or directory10:21
giorgiodinapoli.ami image10:21
razaccourAnyone here familiar with Pavucontrol?10:21
moose-machinejrib: i think there must be an issue with the executable script10:21
razaccourI'm trying to figure out how to get it to record from 2 devices at the same time. While recording it only lets me select one device.10:21
jribmoose-machine: get rid of your symlink.  Instead create a small shell script that changes directory (cd) into the right path where you normally run oilrush.sh from, and then executes ./oilrush.sh.10:22
giorgiodinapoliikonia the cloud image .ami from ubuntu10:22
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: what repo is postgres sql coming from ?10:22
moose-machinejrib: wow. ok. i will have to research that suggestion and find out how to do that. thank you very much. :)10:22
giorgiodinapolidefault apt spources10:22
giorgiodinapolicommon (140)): object-relational SQL database (supported version). In component main, is optional. Version 9.1+140 (raring), package size 6 kB, installed size 67 kB  <--working10:22
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: no, which specific one, check "not default"10:23
jribmoose-machine: Take each ';' as a newline.  Your script should look like: #!/bin/sh; cd /path/to/dir; ./oilrush.sh10:23
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: then the pwd is significant to launch it10:23
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: as jrib says, the script will be 3 lines:  #!/bin/bash     cd /usr/local/games/OilRush-1.35       ./oilrush.sh10:23
moose-machineActionPa1snip: thank you very much. i will work on that. :)10:24
moose-machinejrib: thank you very much. i will do that and see what happens. :)10:25
giorgiodinapoliikonia i tried to find the package with dpkg  -S /etc/postgresql/9.1/main/pg_hba.conf10:27
giorgiodinapolion the working system, i tells none found10:27
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: if things dont work in Linux land, run them in a terminal10:30
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: the output will give clues10:30
moose-machineAction Pa1snip: ok. sounds great. shall try that. :)10:30
moose-machinecheers10:30
krabadorhow to not run completely compiz on ubuntu 12.10 ?10:31
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: is there a reason you are ignoring what I'm asking you for and giving me totally different information10:31
giorgiodinapoliikonia maybe i didnt get what you mean sorry10:32
ikoniagiorgiodinapoli: what repository is postgres sql coming from10:33
moose-machineActionPa1snip: it worked! woo hoo! you guys are awesome :)10:35
moose-machinejrib: that was so great. thank you so, so much. :)10:35
paolo65.xchat2/budus.so10:36
giorgiodinapoliapt-cache policy postgresql brings http://pastebin.com/40ezWs5810:37
giorgiodinapolion both systems10:37
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lamedudehello. could anyone explain to me why fuser -uvm /dir and lsof /dir (lsof -- /dir) show different results?10:39
giorgiodinapoliikonia i hope that was, what youre asking for10:39
ActionPa1snipmoose-machine: sometimes the pwd is important with binaries10:39
zipyMonkeyDust, i tried now with 2d but after i install guest addition, the guest screen turns black10:39
ActionPa1snipzipy: tried Unity2D (I assume you are installing Precise)10:40
zipywindows 8 as guest on ubuntu 12.0410:40
zipywhen i install it with 3d acceleration, the screen is messed up10:41
ActionPa1snipzipy: ahh I see10:41
zipyin 2d blackscreen :D10:42
ActionPa1snipzipy: have you askied in ##windows  or checked compatibility on the virtualbox site?10:42
zipywhen i install in windows it says 3d experimental10:42
zipybut its checked10:42
zipyby default10:42
zipyhm i just need to get my phone attached over usb ^^10:43
ActionPa1snipzipy: the guys in ##windows and/or #vbox may know a trick or two10:43
zipydouble ##?10:43
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MonkeyDustzipy  yes, it means it's a redirection, away from freenode, IIRC10:44
ActionPa1snipzipy: yes10:44
DJoneszipy: double # (eg ##windows) are unofficial channel not operated by the copyright/software developers10:44
zipyah ok10:44
ActionPa1snipzipy: there is also ##hardware with a double hash10:44
ufkhello10:45
ufki don't have ftp_connect() in php and i don't see any ftp relevant package to install10:46
GuestOneif I had an account on the ubuntu forums I would have received an email with the notice of the recent secutiry issues?10:46
blazemoreufk: function_exists('ftp_connect') does it return true?10:46
blazemoreGuestOne: Yes, I got one about 15 minutes ago10:47
ufkchecking10:47
ikoniaGuestOne: no10:47
ikoniablazemore: oh really, they sent out mails now10:47
blazemoreikonia: Only just10:47
blazemore23 minutes ago10:47
DJonesGuestOne: I would guess so, I've had 2 emails, might be worth asking in #ubuntuforums though10:47
krzi feel thunderbird to be bloated. any way to manage email in the terminal?10:47
blazemorekrz: claws10:47
GuestOnewhere i can check if i have an account on the forums? i don't really rembember10:47
blazemoreerrr no10:47
blazemoresorry hang on krz I meant Mutt10:48
krzty10:48
ikoniathunderbird...bloated, oh dear,10:48
blazemoreThey're all catagorised in my head as "geeky clients other people use"10:48
ikoniathe word bloat needs to stop being used in reference to "functional"10:48
GuestOneclaws-mail is perfect10:49
blazemoreikonia: It could be the case that Thunderbird has features s/he doesn't need10:49
GuestOnelightweight and complete10:49
ikoniablazemore: that is hardly "bloat"10:49
krzblazemore: how bout for reading emails?10:50
krzmutt looks like its for sending10:50
blazemoreikonia: Oh I'm not disagreeing with you. People who say apps are "bloated" are also usually part of the "hurr durr my computer is slow" brigade because they're using potatoes10:50
ufkblazemore, it doesn't exist10:50
GuestOnethere is a list of the violated accounts10:50
blazemorekrz: To be honest I don't know, I just Googled it :P10:50
GuestOne?10:50
ufkit returns false10:50
ikoniakrz: your research is terrible10:50
blazemoreGuestOne: Obviously not, they were all dumped10:50
ikoniakrz: mutt is a mail reader10:50
blazemoreGuestOne: Every account on Ubuntu Forums is potentially compromised10:51
krzikonia: i like cli10:51
ikoniakrz: yes, and mutt is a cli interface10:51
krzgui is a pain in the ass10:51
ikoniakrz: hence why your research is terrible10:51
GuestOneblazemore, so i should wait for a mail10:51
ikoniaGuestOne: why do you want a mail ?10:51
ikoniaGuestOne: what information is missing ?10:52
schlitzer|workhey all, i need to create private package repository, it seems that there are plenty of tools out there, but was is the preferred one? something like "createrepo" from rpm based systems would be great10:52
GuestOneikonia, i don't really remember if i have an account on the forums10:52
ikoniaGuestOne: then what does it matter ?10:52
krzikonia: Mutt is a small but very powerful text-based mail client for Unix operating systems. It is great for testing mail server setups and sending email messages via the command line.10:52
GuestOneikonia, i use always the same password10:52
krzsays nothing about reading mails10:52
krzhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/mutt10:52
ikoniakrz: "mail client"10:52
ikoniakrz: mail CLIENT10:52
GuestOneso i need to know if they have stolen my password10:52
ufkphp -i doesn't show ftp plugin as well10:52
krzikonia: read10:52
ikoniaGuestOne: they have have maps for everyone on ubuntu forums passwords10:53
krz"it is gread for"10:53
ikoniakrz: I have read10:53
krzread again10:53
ikoniakrz: it is great for, not "it is limited to"10:53
blazemoreGuestOne: Well you won't from now on. You need to log onto every service you've used your Ubuntu Forums password for, and change your password on those services10:53
ikoniakrz: RESEARCH10:53
blazemoreGuestOne: They have10:53
krzdoesnt matter. thats from the offical site10:53
ikoniakrz: it does matter10:53
ikoniahence why you are getting wrong information10:53
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GuestOneblazemore, do you know when the forums will be ready?10:54
blazemoreGuestOne: No10:54
krzso your saying the description for mutt in the official ubuntu site is incomplete? meh10:54
ikoniakrz: I'm saying it's a good description, you are just reading into it what you want to read into it10:54
ikoniakrz: it's a mail "client" - not an MTA10:54
ikoniakrz: mail client = read/write emails10:54
blazemorekrz: A knife is perfect for chopping onions, it doesn't mean you can't use it for anything else10:54
ikoniakrz: mta = send mail10:54
GuestOnei hate Canonical, they use shitty propietary forum software10:54
blazemore!ot | guzzlefry10:55
ubottuguzzlefry: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:55
blazemoreSorry guzzlefry10:55
GuestOnewhy?10:55
blazemore!ot | GuestOne10:55
ubottuGuestOne: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:55
avalarionHey ho, I've git Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS and Rootkit Hunter 1.3.8 installed. Is there a source where I only get a newer version or rkhunter?10:55
blazemoreavalarion: http://rkhunter.sourceforge.net/10:56
ikoniaavalarion: I very very strongly recommend you not trust that10:56
krzdamn, i just pissed off an OP10:56
krzmy bad10:56
ikoniakrz: I assure you I'm not10:56
krzthats good to hear10:56
avalarionikonia, why? I get every night an email because of "Warning: Hidden file found: /dev/.initramfs: symbolic link to `/run/initramfs'"10:56
ikoniaavalarion: it provides so many false positives it's untrue,10:56
ufkahh i need the forums back online :(10:57
krzikonia: you have amazing patience. if it was me, i would have kicked myself out already :-P10:57
ActionPa1snipkrz: apparently it can be an mta http://wiki.debian.org/Mutt but I have seen that the mutt guys recommend using an external mta if it is needed10:57
avalarionikonia, the new version of rkhunter? Or rkhunter all in all?10:57
ikoniaavalarion: in general10:58
avalarionblazemore, thanks =). I am looking for an apt source and not for the source itself. If I'd love to compile it bymyself I'd stayed with gentoo10:58
avalarionikonia, as tool that's saying: "Take a look at..." it is very cool. As always you have to use your head and not just read emails.10:59
avalarionikonia, or do you know a better one?10:59
ActionPa1snipkrz: could ask in the mutt irc channel10:59
ikoniaavalarion: I think it's a terrible tool, with no value at all10:59
chunkyheadis there an openbsd channel as well?11:00
DJones!alis | chunkyhead11:00
ikoniachunkyhead: sure, ask in #freenode how to search for channels11:00
ubottuchunkyhead: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*11:00
chunkyhead(y) thanks DJones11:00
krzthunderbird is not bloated perse. i like being able to use the keyboard to navigate around. with thunderbird, my hand still lingers with the mouse11:01
ElToro1966Having problems with a 13.04 install on an UEFI machine. Tried everything here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI, but the install just keeps stalling just after the splash screen... After a few seconds, the spash disappears and the screen shows only the cursos for a while (first a big one, the a small one), and after that the whole thing stalls. Graphics driver problem?11:04
ElToro1966*splash *cursor11:04
mopsfoldI got dpkg dependency problems while running dpkg --configure -a11:04
mikejwis it possible to kill a child and parent process using start-stop-daemon?11:06
mopsfoldI errors were encountered while processing gconf2 and about 30 other packages11:07
blazemoremopsfold: Can you please paste the errors on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel?11:08
ActionPa1snipmopsfold: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:09
ActionPa1snipElToro1966: what video chip do you use?11:09
ufkok ubuntu's php comes with ftp, i had an old php version in /usr/local/bin11:09
dorsatumhi, my bluetooth service has not been working for about a week now. i posted a question regarding this on Ask Ubuntu, but it failed to garner interest, could someone help me regarding this? or is there another channel where i should post this?11:09
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: what is the make and model of the system? what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:10
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: details......11:10
ElToro1966The video card is an AMD Radeon HD 6800 series.11:10
mopsfoldubuntu 12.04.2 lts /n /l11:11
ActionPa1snipElToro1966: tried the boot option:  radeon.nomodeset=111:11
dorsatum@ActionPa1snip, it's an Acer Travelmate P643-M11:12
ActionPa1snipmopsfold: please pastebin the error messages as per blazemore's instruction11:12
ElToro1966No. Will try now.11:12
ElToro1966Thanks11:12
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:12
dorsatumActionPa1snip: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l11:13
mopsfolddon't think I can paste it as I only have command line11:14
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ActionPa1snipdorsatum: found this: http://tinyurl.com/jvh7prz   but the ubuntu forums are down11:14
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: main link says 'HOWTO: Enabling Acer laptop bluetooth (especially Travelmate ...'11:15
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: looks promising, or have you aready seen that page?11:15
dorsatumActionPa1snip: just a minute, it's loading11:15
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: again: the forums are down.... so it wont load11:16
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: how can it load when its down11:16
mopsfoldit just repeats dpkg dependency problems prevent configuration of packages11:16
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: i used tiny url as google pollutes links with its own junk as well as the actual link, so I avoided spamming the channel11:17
dorsatumActionPa1snip: sorry, made a mistake, i'll keep the link and open it in a day or so?11:17
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: whenever the forms come up11:17
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mar77iokay. so... libreoffice is running terribly slow, but only for certain users11:17
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: do you have the latest BIOS? Do you dual boot the system?11:17
ActionPa1snipmar77i: tried renaming their libreoffice config folder?11:17
mar77iyes11:17
dorsatumActionPa1snip: yes, i do, the other OS is Win7, but i rarely boot it.11:17
ynze_hello!11:18
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: in Windows device manager, disable the ability for the device to wake up the system as well as the power management11:18
mar77iActionPa1snip: there's .config/libreoffice. I had removed that one first.11:18
ActionPa1snipmar77i: cool, thought that might be it, you can also set more RAM for libreoffice in the configs as well as disable Java if you don't need it11:19
mar77i...11:19
mar77iI had, meaing before I came to ask here (because it didn't help)11:20
ElToro1966Well. Tried the radeon-option, but now the cursor just blinks. Nothing going on. Only change is that the screen doesn't go black like before.11:20
ActionPa1snipmar77i: there are guides aplenty for ram settings in libreoffice11:20
ActionPa1snipElToro1966: try:  nomodeset   on it's own11:20
ElToro1966ok11:20
ActionPa1snipmar77i: http://www.codechewing.com/library/speed-up-libreoffice-load-time/11:21
ActionPa1snipmar77i: something like tha11:21
dorsatumActionPa1snip: what do think is the reason for it not working? about 6 days back it was working perfectly, but then the next day when i switched the machine on, the soft icon on the top panel is missing and the bluetooth screen is frozen. I posted images of it on Ask Ubuntu, should i link the question here?11:21
SimpleUserHi there. I'm often with friends at home, everyone on his/her computer. When we want to talk on the web or give oneself a link, we go on an external service (facebook, jabber...). Which is dumb. My question is : is there a simple way to chat in an internal way through my router ?11:23
ynze_I have a question about my Eee pc 901 and lubuntu.11:23
ynze_But first, have to eat!11:23
ElToro1966ActionPa1snip: Same thing happens with only nomodeset11:24
mopsfoldcan it help to hold gconf2 package.? it is the first on the error list11:24
ActionPa1snipdorsatum: no idea, did the windows config help?11:25
dorsatumActionPa1snip: no, i'm gonna restart and boot Windows now. i'll post the results asap.11:26
UnacceptableUseWould it be a bad idea to flash Ubuntu touch on my Galaxy S3?11:32
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DJones!touch | UnacceptableUse Probably better to ask in the dedicated touch/tablet/phone channel,11:32
ubottuUnacceptableUse Probably better to ask in the dedicated touch/tablet/phone channel,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch11:32
UnacceptableUseok thanks11:33
[Raiden]UnacceptableUse: Use backup and try. If you can.11:34
Name141was the forum passwords "salted" or something ?11:34
k1l_Name141: #ubuntuforums11:35
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chunkyheaddoes anyone know how to send a file to another computer via ssh?11:39
mompfredcan some one help me11:39
mompfredi need help with the mk802+11:39
icerootchunkyhead: scp filename user@host:/path/to/put/the/file/11:41
b80905how can i decrease my laptop's fan speed? it's spinning hard all the time11:43
ActionPa1snipb80905: what make and model laptop?11:46
ActionPa1snipb80905: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:46
ActionPa1snipb80905: we need details, we cant see your laptop so you have to fill us in, just a little11:46
b80905ActionPa1snip: dell inspiron n511011:47
ActionPa1snipb80905: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:47
jactaActionPa1snip: did you get my message earlier? Cant find it11:48
ActionPa1snipjacta: sorry missed it11:48
ActionPa1snipb80905: copy the command and press CTRL + ALT + T   run the command there and copy the one line of output, paste here as an update11:49
jactaActionPa1snip: do you know any software or such that monitor hdmi plug/unplug? - I would really love to run a script when doing it11:50
gratcyguys can u help me :(11:50
ActionPa1snipb80905: also, if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel and an Nvidia GPU, or just one?11:50
ActionPa1snipjacta: you could watch dmesg for certain events, or /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe11:51
gratcyhow to install rabbitvcs in ubuntu 13.0411:51
ActionPa1snip!info rabbitvcs11:51
ubottuPackage rabbitvcs does not exist in raring11:51
ActionPa1sniphmm11:51
ikoniawhat is it?11:51
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ActionPa1snipgratcy: http://wiki.rabbitvcs.org/wiki/install/ubuntu11:51
b80905ActionPa1snip: /etc/issue: Ubuntu 12.04 \n \l11:51
ikoniaamazing research again11:51
jactaActionPa1snip: its because on work I only use hdmi screen, when I close i forget to turn off while hibernating :\11:52
ActionPa1snipgratcy: how long did that take me to find?11:52
ActionPa1snipb80905: also, if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel and an Nvidia GPU, or just one?11:52
gratcyactionPa1snip:i was try that from rabbit wiki, but cant resolve the problem11:52
ActionPa1snipgratcy: the PPA supports Raring so will work11:52
b80905ActionPa1snip: both11:52
b80905ActionPa1snip: i see them both11:53
Equinox3my network-manager mac change isn't working, anyone know whats going on11:53
ActionPa1snipb80905: then you need bumblebee11:53
ikoniagratcy: then you need to state the problem11:53
ActionPa1snipgratcy: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rabbitvcs/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install rabbitvcs11:53
ikoniagratcy: what part of those wiki instructions are not working11:53
gratcyActionPa1snip: rabbitvcs-thunar : Depends: thunarx-python (>= 0.3.0) which is a virtual package.11:53
gratcy                    Depends: rabbitvcs-core (>= 0.15.3) but it is not going to be installed.11:53
Equinox3can i purge network manager and install it back11:54
ikoniaPPA not in sync11:54
ActionPa1snipgratcy: then i suggest you contact the PPA maintainer, why did you not state these issues when you first asked?11:54
gratcyi was search anywhere, but i not find solution11:55
gratcy rabbitvcs-thunar : Depends: thunarx-python (>= 0.3.0) which is a virtual package.11:55
gratcyDepends: rabbitvcs-core (>= 0.15.3) but it is not going to be installed.11:55
Matthew_Mooreis the Kdenlive website down for anyone else?  or is it just me?11:55
gratcyis anyone had install rabbitvcs in ubuntu 13.0411:55
ikoniagratcy: repeating it won't change it11:55
ikoniagratcy: the PPA is out of sync11:56
[Raiden]Matthew_Moore: yes http://www.kdenvile.org/ is down11:56
Lazuroth78Thanks yall11:56
ikoniagratcy: you need to contact the PPA maintainer and ask him to resolve the dependencies11:56
ActionPa1snipgratcy: try:  sudo apt-get install thunarx-python11:56
ActionPa1snipgratcy: as ikonia says, the PPA needs updating11:56
ActionPa1snip!info thunarx-python11:56
ubottuPackage thunarx-python does not exist in raring11:56
Matthew_Mooreok Thanks.  good to know it isn't me11:56
Lazuroth78Does any one have trouble with there keyboard not loading when they start up ubuntu11:56
dorsatumActionPa1snip: the bluetooth service is active again, thanks a lot!11:56
ikoniap/window 2711:57
ikoniaoops11:57
kakalakalai want to create an ssh between 2 machines over the11:57
kakalakala                    internet. help pls?11:57
b80905ActionPa1snip: so i have installed bumblebee11:57
auronandace!ssh | kakalakala11:57
ubottukakalakala: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)11:57
gratcythanks for the answers ikonia and ActionPa1snip. i will try :(11:58
ActionPa1snipgratcy: seems to be in the webupd8 ppa11:58
ikoniamixing PPA's for dependencies, not good11:58
ActionPa1snipgratcy: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd811:58
ikoniareally ????11:58
gratcyACtionPa1snip: what is tha11:58
kakalakalahow to send files over ssh to another machine? auronandace11:58
ikoniajust get the PPA updated correctly11:58
ikoniakakalakala: scp11:59
auronandace!scp | kakalakala11:59
ubottukakalakala: scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/11:59
ActionPa1snipgratcy: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install thunarx-python       but the PPA maintainer should ideally upadte their own PPA11:59
ActionPa1snipgratcy: your call11:59
kakalakalaikonia, auronandace can you gimme an example of the command?11:59
b80905ActionPa1snip: what do i have to do with it12:00
ActionPa1snipgratcy: fyi, I dont use rabbitvcs or even know what it is, I am simply searching the web and finding stuff12:00
ikoniascp file user@hostname:/remote/location12:00
ActionPa1snipb80905: install it, your switchable GPU is causing the issue12:00
b80905ActionPa1snip: i have installed it12:00
kakalakalahere user@hostname is my current machine or the machine i am connected to ikonia ?12:00
HDLowriderDoes anybody know if there has been any headway made with the Optimus graphics switching in 13.0412:01
HDLowrider?12:01
ikonianot really any improvement12:02
gratcyActionPa1snip: i just using ubuntu, before i used windows. in windows i use TortoiseSVN for svn client. rabbitvcs like tortoise so i try to use that.12:02
t4nk698about the attack on ubuntu forum, will i be able to log with my current password? i dont know if this is the one i use to other places.12:02
ikoniat4nk698: you will still have your current password12:02
DJonest4nk698: Best asking in #ubuntuforums12:03
t4nk698thanks12:03
Kunalsudo: unable to resolve host node07.host1free.com12:03
Kunal<< getting this error , can anyone help?12:03
ikoniaKunal: can you resolve that host ?12:03
SpecialEdHey guys, I got a Ubuntu 12.04 server with a RAID5 array that I'm trying to unrar a very large 65GB rar file on, it keeps using 100% disk I/O which borks other processes that run on this array.  Is there any way to throttle unrar so it doesn't use 100% disk I/O?  So far I've already tried using nice/ionice with no luck :(12:03
ikoniaKunal: looks like a non-existant host12:03
ikoniaSpecialEd: what's using the IO, the actual unrar process, or the managment of the raid array during the unrar12:04
SpecialEdunrar12:04
HDLowriderI've seen where BumbleBee trys to fix the problem but it still uses does the switching itself. I just want to use the external switch on my laptop to do the switching manually. Is there anyway to do that?12:04
ikoniaSpecialEd: are you %100 sure12:05
SpecialEdi've got nmon, iostat -x 1, & iotop all going, this has been driving me insane trying to figure out for a few hours straight now, lol12:05
SpecialEd110% sure12:05
ikoniaSpecialEd: if that's the case, then ionice on that process should work12:05
heyuxianghi, i got a SATA III SSD, kingston ssdnow 300v, 120GB, but it SOMETIMES shows running at SATA II mode,12:05
heyuxiangi can't find a reason12:06
SpecialEdnice -n 19 ionice -c1 -n7 unrar e archivename.rar12:06
SpecialEdthats what i've tried without any luck :*12:06
joshuhi ikonia how are you?12:07
compdocheyuxiang, how are you seeing this?12:08
b80905ActionPa1snip: what do i have to do after i have installed bumblebee12:08
Kunalso any way to solve it?12:08
b80905ActionPa1snip: ?12:08
ikoniaKunal: the host doesn't exist.....12:08
heyuxiangcompdoc: dmesg |grep ahci12:08
Lazuroth78how do I fix my keyboard so it works when I start my computer every time I have ubuntu 13. 0412:12
heyuxiangLazuroth78: what do you mean?12:12
heyuxiangwhats wrong with your keyboard12:12
Kunalhmm.. kk12:12
Lazuroth78it acts like it not loading the drivers12:13
Lazuroth78I have to restart my computer 4 or 5 times to get my keyboard to work12:13
decci_Any idea how to do that12:13
k1l_Lazuroth78: which keyboard? there shouldnt be any drivers needed12:13
Lazuroth78I am on a laptop12:14
Lazuroth78it the laptop keyboard12:14
volitekI'm getting a black screen on every game with fglrx-experimental drivers but if I use fglrx-updates it works. Using 12.04 with 3.2 kernel. What could be wrong?12:14
volitekDo you think installing the X updates ppa would help?12:15
k1l_Lazuroth78: are you sure its not a hardware failure?12:15
Lazuroth78It never did this when I had windows12:15
Lazuroth78if I boot up in windows it works just fine12:15
heyuxiangLazuroth78: keyboard doesn't need a driver.linux kernel has the driver12:16
Lazuroth78ok then why does my keyboard not work some times?12:17
zipyhow can i check if ecryptfs is crypting my swap12:17
Lazuroth78it not the hardware12:17
heyuxiangLazuroth78: so you mean, your keyboard has no response when you hit it under linux?12:17
Lazuroth78yeppers12:17
k1l_Lazuroth78: you can look into dmesg and syslog what went wrong12:17
Lazuroth78ok see I don't know how to do that12:18
heyuxiangLazuroth78: can't type anything? can't even using CTRL, ALT,Fn?12:18
Lazuroth78nothing just the power button12:18
GothPawI have a USB ProBox (holds 4 sata drives in it **without raid**) all 4 drives range from 250GB to 3TB. I am trying to figure out how to have the drives mount at bootup (they were added into my fstab). My other 6 internal drives all mount properly at bootup. Fstab entries are via UUID. Any suggestions please?12:18
Lazuroth78I have touse the on screen keyboard or keep restarting my computer till my mouse and keyboard work12:19
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streulmahello, I can upgrade my kernel on Ubuntu Server 12.04, but when I reboot, the server don't boot and hangs, it's KVM virtualisation12:19
heyuxiangLazuroth78: that's fucking weired12:21
DJonesheyuxiang: Please don't curse in the Ubuntu channels12:21
Lazuroth78I had this problem with another linux os12:21
heyuxiangohh12:23
compdocstreulma, most ppl only update the kernel for bug fixes, etc. Sounds like you are trying to install a newer kernel manually?12:23
streulmacompdoc, no, with a apt-get dist-upgrade12:23
eXcAliBuRI got an email from my ISP that the server running my Bind DNS is part of a DDoD attack, how do I start to fix this?12:23
streulmaor unattended upgrades12:23
heyuxiangi hate windows 7,8 i hate serial number, so i choose ubuntu as my main working OS.12:23
eXcAliBuRi'm upgrading Ubuntu now12:24
Lazuroth78I got rid of windows 712:24
Lazuroth78all to gether for Ubunto12:24
Lazuroth78ubuntu12:24
compdocstreulma, thats odd. I run kvm on a few systems, and I keep them all updated12:24
Lazuroth78Ubuntu is 50 times faster online then any windows os I have seen12:24
Lazuroth78that is out of the box12:24
compdocthat is off the wall12:25
streulmaLazuroth78: should I run Ubuntu on my Mac :D12:25
Lazuroth78I don't know I don't use mac12:25
heyuxiangi have this amazing hardware all for ubuntu: 2*4GB 1600Mhz RAM, 120GB SSD with 500M/s R&W speed.11 inch, 1.3kg.12:25
heyuxiang6.5 hours battery12:26
Lazuroth78The laptop I have had windows 7 on it and I hated windows honestly I can't stand microsoft products and I have been using open source products for years12:26
Lazuroth78nice12:27
heyuxiangi would get Macbook air if i have enough money.12:27
heyuxianghowever, ubuntu is nice as a desktop OS.12:27
Lazuroth78I am limted on funds my self I got my laptop for 150 bucks and it had 4gig ram 450 hard with dvd burner12:28
Lazuroth78if all I have to get is usb keyboard for my laptop I am happy12:28
heyuxiangLazuroth78: i see, you use an second hand laptop?12:29
Lazuroth78yes I do12:29
streulmaand I have a Macbook Pro Retina 15 inch, Quad i7, with 256GB ssd12:29
Lazuroth78they keyboard is working now and does not stop working only when I turn my computer off and restart it12:30
Lazuroth78does it stop12:30
heyuxiangok, i guess the problem is the keyboard wire is off12:30
Lazuroth78how do you turn it on12:30
heyuxiangtake off the keyboard, clean the connectors12:30
Lazuroth78ok that is going to have to be taken in and have it done12:31
heyuxiangthere may be too much dust inside your laptop.12:31
Lazuroth78did not think about that I will take it in and have it cleaned up12:32
heyuxiangi would take it into pieces and give it a cleanning12:32
Lazuroth78or I will call my uncle he can do it12:32
heyuxiangyes12:33
volitekAnyone got any thoughts about how to sort out my amd graphics drivers?12:33
heyuxianggood luck12:33
Lazuroth78most soft ware stuff I can fix my self but I am new to linux and not sure of anything on Ubuntu12:33
heyuxiangLazuroth78: ubuntu  is better than windows 7 at installing. when installing, ubuntu recognized all my hardware, including wireless and wired network.12:34
Lazuroth78it let me browse the web while it was installing12:34
Lazuroth78just had to use the onscreen keyboard12:35
Lazuroth78and usb mouse12:35
heyuxiangwindows 7? that shiiiit can't find my wireless and wired hardware, so i have no way to install network drivers, that mean , i can't go online, that means i can;t donwload drivers, that means i have to kill the installation12:35
Lazuroth78but I think your right I think my keyboard needs to be cleaned12:35
Lazuroth78windows 7 your screwed if it don't find your wireless drivers12:36
kurtwp_what is the difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu desktop usb12:36
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Lazuroth78I am not sure but I think it is the size of the install12:37
heyuxiangby the way, i created the windows 7 usb installation drive in Linux...12:37
Lazuroth78nice12:37
heyuxiangnothing can't be that easy to create the win7 usb boot flash.12:37
heyuxiangunder linux12:37
Lazuroth78lol12:38
heyuxiangbut in windows? there is no east way to make a bootable windows 7 usb flash.12:38
Lazuroth78I don't know how to make a boot disk for ubuntu as far as that goes12:38
angsis http://ubuntuforums.org/ an official Ubuntu forum?12:39
heyuxiangLazuroth78: very very easy. just download the .iso file. using the linux command: dd12:39
ActionParsnipheyuxiang: I believe you can use unetbootin if you format the stick NTFS first (using Windows)12:39
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Lazuroth78ok in term you just put dd and that is it12:40
heyuxiangActionParsnip: i was talking about creating a bootable windows 7 usb flash drive.12:40
Piciangs: Yes.12:40
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angsthank you12:41
heyuxianglong time no using English, i forget how to say it.12:41
Lazuroth78I will need more detail on how to make the ubuntu boot disk12:41
ActionParsnipheyuxiang: yes, and I have read you can use unetbootin....12:42
heyuxiangLazuroth78: boot usb is better i guess12:42
Lazuroth78ok how do I do that then12:42
blazemoreheyuxiang: Lazuroth78 The program I use on Windows to make both Windows and Linux bootable USBs is "Linux Live USB" http://www.linuxliveusb.com12:42
micha_Welche Laptops eigen sich für ubuntu?12:42
DJones!de | micha_12:43
blazemore!german | micha_12:43
ubottumicha_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!12:43
angsPici, do you know how serious problem does that forum have?12:43
heyuxiangLazuroth78: there is a wiki on official ubuntu website. also as guys mentioned, "unetbootin, linux live usb" are nice tools12:43
Lazuroth78will have to duel boot windows on to my computer so I can run the program12:43
Piciangs: Everything is explained on the announcement page.12:43
Lazuroth78normaly I just have my tech do all this for me12:44
heyuxiangLazuroth78: or this : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows12:45
heyuxiangi'm using the entire disk on Ubuntu.12:46
heyuxiangif i need a windows, i would install inside virtualbox12:46
BluesKajHowdy all12:46
heyuxiangblazemore: howdy12:46
blazemoreHello heyuxiang12:48
Lazuroth78easy way is download .iso file for ubunto and burn it to cd12:48
heyuxiangLazuroth78: CD is too slow12:51
heyuxiangLazuroth78: i dont have a CD drive on my laptop12:51
Lazuroth78I have dvd burner on my laptop that why I am willing to do it12:51
dhinahi all12:52
dhinahow to simulate lvm mirror failure in ubuntu ?12:52
ActionParsnipheyuxiang: are you in a hurry?12:52
heyuxiangActionParsnip: what?12:52
heyuxiangyep, im getting out for some food :)12:52
dhinahow to simulate lvm mirror failure in ubuntu12:53
compdocunplug a drive?12:53
Laurencebhttp://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge12:53
Laurencebtheyll need to get a bit more than thart12:53
blazemore!ot | Laurenceb12:53
ubottuLaurenceb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:53
dhinano i working in aws , its ebs volume12:53
prodnixHi all, so I have customised a livecd and I have added it to my PXE server and all is well except 1 change which I made. I editted fstab to automount a windows server share. Any ideas of how i can implement this?12:53
Lazuroth78I am getting  a Terra drive for my laptop on the first can you give any name of name brand that work well with ubuntu12:53
Lazuroth78for external tera drives12:54
blazemoreLazuroth78: Any external USB hard drive will work with Ubuntu12:54
compdocLaurenceb, that amount has grown very rapidly since it started a few days ago. I looks as if they will meet the goal12:54
Lazuroth78ok cool12:54
Lazuroth78I really should change my name to linux virgin  lol12:55
ActionParsnipheyuxiang: you  say CD is slow, are you in a hurry?12:55
prodnixonce u pop u cant stop :D12:55
Lazuroth78I have all day12:55
Lazuroth78or till i pass out12:56
blazemoreLazuroth78: Nobody minds people who lack experience, the only problem in this channel is people who are rude, and people who won't accept an expert's answer. Neither of those apply to you12:56
Lazuroth78I don't like the xterm you can't copy and paste and that has been my best friend sence getting ubuntu12:57
prodnixHi all, so I have customised a livecd and I have added it to my PXE server and all is well except 1 change which I made. I editted fstab to automount a windows server share. Any ideas of how i can implement this? Is putting is in rc.local a viable option?12:57
blazemoreLazuroth78: Are you wanting a recommendation for a different terminal?12:57
blazemore!patience | prodnix12:57
ubottuprodnix: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/12:57
anders_I think you can copy using crt+shift+c.12:57
prodnixlol ubottu need to be made aware of the hack :D12:58
Lazuroth78no I figured out to use the orginal term and stay away from the x term  I have have not tried the ux term yet12:58
Lazuroth78don't know the differance12:58
blazemoreprodnix: Well noticed, but I doubt it's worth the effort at this point12:58
ActionParsnipprodnix: does the netry in /etc/fstab mount ok once you hit the desktop?12:58
prodnixhehe12:58
blazemoreLazuroth78: They all do the same thing basically. They all just run your shell. The differences are in graphical features. I personally recommend Terminator, it's what I use all day at work because you can split and group terminal windows within the main window12:59
prodnixActionParsnip: the change seems to have disappeared completely when i cat /etc/fstab12:59
Lazuroth78I try to stay out of term as much as I possibly can I am a bit intemidated by it13:00
prodnixActionParsnip: fstab looks nothing like it did when i was editting it, looks like its generated on boot or something of that nature13:00
ActionParsnipprodnix: then you will need to add it, or add a mount command in rc.local13:00
StarOnDwhich tv tuner card which is easily available in india is compatible with Ubuntu 13.04 ? any one in here would know ?13:00
MonkeyDustLazuroth78  learning how to use it, helps you to not being intimidated by it13:00
blazemoreLazuroth78: Nothing wrong with that, although don't be intimidated by it. Sometimes graphical utilities are better, but some tasks just lend themselves better to a terminal-based workflow13:00
streulmahow do I update my server without kernel upgrade ?13:00
blazemorestreulma: sudo apt-get upgrade13:00
streulmasudo apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded ?13:01
ActionParsnipstreulma: you could apt-pin the kernel package13:01
blazemoreI didn't think the server updated the kernel without dist-upgrade13:01
blazemoreI might be wrong though, Puppet deals with everything for me13:01
prodnixActionParsnip: Thats what i thought, i think rc.local is my only option but wasnt sure if that would work as livecds act very wierdly for obvious reasons13:02
streulmaoh yes, packages kept back13:02
Lazuroth78yeah I am going to get a book on ubuntu term commands and sit down and really learn it13:02
ActionParsnipprodnix: should technnically work, the LAN will also have come up too, fstab is processed before the networking comes up13:02
blazemoreLazuroth78: None of the commands are specific to ubuntu13:02
prodnixActionParsnip: TYVM :)13:03
Lazuroth78so once I learn commands they go to any linux13:03
blazemoreLazuroth78: In short: yes13:03
Lazuroth78awsome13:03
Lazuroth78I thought each os had it own set of commands13:03
blazemoreLazuroth78: In the way that when you learn to drive a car you can essentially drive any car, but don't expect the cup-holder to be in the same place13:03
Lazuroth78lol13:04
prodnixlove that explanation :D13:04
Lazuroth78good way to put that13:04
Lazuroth78love that one13:04
Ryan_L_WilliamsHello Ubuntu.13:04
Ryan_L_WilliamsI need to know what's the best ISO Burner for burning Windows, Liunx, etc13:04
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: there is no single best ISO burner, for any OS13:05
blazemoreRyan_L_Williams: They're all basically the same. What OS are you on?13:05
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: do you really think one exists that is outright best...really!?13:05
basiclaserhallo hallo13:05
Ryan_L_WilliamsActionParsnip: Really, I thought there will be13:05
blazemoreRyan_L_Williams: What would make one better than another, in your mind?13:06
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: if there was, nobody would use anything else and they would cease to be13:06
Ryan_L_Williamsblazemore: I want to burn Windows XP13:06
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Ryan_L_Williamsblazemore: I want to burn Windows 713:06
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: think about it....13:06
JuJuBeanCDs are yesteryear. It's like asking which toaster is best. They all make toast.13:06
blazemoreRyan_L_Williams: It either burns the disk or it doesn't13:06
Ryan_L_WilliamsActionParsnip: Think about what13:06
Pici!burners13:06
ubottuCD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto13:06
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: the statement I gave you13:06
blazemoreJuJuBean: Not true at all. Some toasters toast unevenly13:06
JuJuBeanon windows try cdburnerxp13:06
Lazuroth78windows seven is not worth the cd it being burnt to13:06
blazemoreLazuroth78: so edgy13:07
Pici!offtopic13:07
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:07
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: everyone would use the best one, as the others are lesser. The development would stop on the other burners13:07
Ryan_L_WilliamsActionParsnip: what statement, I'll speak binary now joking mat, so what shall I do to burn a ISO onto a blank Disk13:07
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: Its like asking "what is the best web browser?", you will get opinions. None are outright best13:07
blazemoreRyan_L_Williams: If you are on Ubuntu, the built-in one is perfect13:07
PiciActionParsnip: you've made your point.13:07
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: brassero is in a default ubuntu install13:07
JuJuBeanI cant remember which year I last burned an iso in.13:07
ActionParsnipPici: hence me stopping (see above)13:07
Lazuroth78I am fond of chrome13:07
blazemoreRyan_L_Williams: If you are on Windows 7, ditto. If you are on an earlier version of Windows, look at CDBurnerXP13:08
k1l_Ryan_L_Williams: just use any burner you want. its not rocket sience. no need to make such a drama out of it13:08
ActionParsnipRyan_L_Williams: xfburn and k3b are also available in the repos13:08
Ryan_L_WilliamsActionParsnip: I use Google Chrome, because it's fast, easier too13:08
k1l_Ryan_L_Williams: and if you are using windows ask the windows guys for support.13:08
Lazuroth78honestly windows xp has been and always will be my fav windows13:09
blazemoreI think we should all agree to stop now13:09
k1l_!ot | Lazuroth78 Ryan_L_Williams  etc13:09
ubottuLazuroth78 Ryan_L_Williams  etc: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:09
Ryan_L_WilliamsOkay thanks guys for all your support, because I was going to ask13:09
Ryan_L_WilliamsIs ubunuforums.com down???13:10
blazemoreRyan_L_Williams: Do you own eyeballs?13:10
Lazuroth78Yall have fun I will be back if I have more questions13:10
JuJuBeani hate the overzelous nature of freenode channels.13:10
k1l_Ryan_L_Williams: just try it yourself. for questions regarding forums ask in #ubuntuforums13:10
JuJuBeanespecially this being the off topic channel.13:10
JuJuBeaner, nm13:10
PiciJuJuBean: This is #ubuntu, NOT the offtopic channel13:10
JuJuBeanhah. thats my fault13:10
Ryan_L_WilliamsSomebody type in #windows13:11
mbeierlI've installed remmina and remmina-plugin-nx, but nx is not listed as a protocol option.  I see an old bug report for Oneiric, but nothing about 13.04.  Anyone know how to get the nx plugin to show up as a protocol for remmina?13:11
JuJuBeanok, return with zeal to overzealous mode! :D13:11
mbeierlin fact I installed telepathy and xdmcp as well, and they're not showing up either13:13
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codephobichi13:17
QuietStorm81Good morning all. I've a bit of an odd issue with wi-fi connectivity on my laptop running 13.04. I can login into wi-fi that has passwords that have letters in them but when the passwords are all numeric as the one at my home is, I can't login. The laptop will continually ask for the right password even though I'm entering it right off the side of my modem.13:18
QuietStorm81Any ideas what might be causing this?13:18
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codephobicusr13, hi was busy yesterday, but just wanted to let you know that it's sorted now. The video playback is tear-free, once I used the video-tear-free on setting. It reduced the framerate on the vgl_gears test by quite a bit though (but I don't think that's too important to me).13:19
MagicarpDoes the kernel effect the performance of the blob GPU driver?13:20
codephobicI need some help with setting up a shared documents directory from ubuntu to a bunch of VMs... I've done this before, quite some time ago, but can't seem to get it working now.13:20
blazemorecodephobic: Are the VMs running on the same machine you want to share the directory from?13:20
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codephobicI forgot how to enable a folder/directory to be shared in ubuntu and set permissions.13:20
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codephobicblazemore, both on this machine and on another machine on the same LAN.13:21
mbeierlcodephobic: CIFS or NFS?13:21
codephobicI had it setup so fstab mounted //<ip address> /directory cifs ...13:21
mbeierlcodephobic: sorry - sharing using MS Windows networking?13:21
codephobicmbeierl, both with an ubuntu server vm in Windows 7 and with a bunch of different vms hosted on this ubuntu.13:22
blazemorecodephobic: I'd just go about setting up a normal Samba share, the fact they're VMs is a red herring13:22
usr13codephobic: Very good.13:22
codephobicblazemore, hmm, I normally share folders by just setting the share permission within the gui, but that doesn't seem to have worked as far as the VMs are concerned.13:23
mbeierlcodephobic: so yes, to share from Ubuntu there is the right-click dropdown menu that will guide you through setting up the share as the "server side".  For mounting the share, you can use /etc/fstab13:24
codephobicI can't seem to access the folder nor provide a proper address: <ip address>/folder/path/13:24
usr13codephobic: You can use samba and nfs on the same share. I use nfs for Linux clients and samba for MS Windows ones.  I do both.  It's pretty straight forward.13:24
codephobicmbeierl, that's pretty much what I've been trying but I'm definitely mucking something up.13:24
mbeierlcodephobic: For my fstab, I have //server/share /media/public    cifs    user=guest,dom=WORKGROUP,sec=none       0       013:25
ActionParsnipmbeierl: no password?13:25
mbeierlcodephobic: if your share requires a specific username password combo, instead of guest, then you need to look into credentials files13:25
mbeierlActionParsnip: for my private home network, no I have an open dropbox share13:26
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usr13codephobic: Do you have your PC set to static IP?  (It makes things easier.)  Many routers have option for static lease, which is to say that it gives the same IP to a PC each time it boots up.13:26
codephobic/192.168.1.7/office/ /media/work ntfs credentials=/root/.creds,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 013:26
mbeierlI also run with scissor at times.13:26
codephobic^^ that's how my Nas shares are at present13:26
mbeierlcodephobic: wait- you have ntfs there as the filesystem type13:27
codephobicbut I use ntfs for the shares on this local machine (sharing directories from a bunch of NTFS formatted/windows disks)13:27
codephobicoops13:27
mbeierlcodephobic: should that not be cifs?  ntfs is a local filesystem only, not network13:27
codephobic/192.168.1.7/office/ /media/work cifs credentials=/root/.creds,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 013:27
usr13codephobic: Spelling error.13:27
codephobic^^ sorry typo/13:27
codephobicI typed ntfs when I meant cifs13:27
mbeierlok, I thought that it might have been just that simple13:27
codephobichehe13:27
codephobicI wish13:27
codephobic(but, no doubt, I've mucked something simple up, somewhere)13:28
mbeierlsorry - work calls for a bit...  Perhaps paste the error that occurs when trying to mount?13:28
codephobick,13:28
raubI take line 2 in http://pastie.org/private/u26tyst3b0p5cer0aoow is the driver version being used to control the card13:28
raubBut, which driver is this?13:28
Pici7013:28
raub(filename/.whatever)13:28
codephobic"Retrying with upper case share name13:29
codephobicmount error(6): No such device or address13:29
codephobicRefer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)13:29
codephobic"13:29
FloodBot1codephobic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:29
codephobicoops - just copy/pasted the error message.13:29
usr13codephobic: And I don't think you really need file_mode=0777,dir_mode=077713:30
usr13codephobic: ShareName is CaseSensitive.13:30
codephobicusr13, I'll try removing that.13:30
usr13codephobic: And no frontslash at the beginning of the line.13:30
usr13codephobic: I would suggest something like: 192.168.1.7/office/ /media/work nfs rw,user,nolock,nocto,actimeo=360013:31
codephobicusr13, that's strange, I use // in front of the ips for shares from windows and from my nas. I figured that was the general convention.13:32
codephobicok, I'll just try that too.13:32
usr13codephobic: But /media/work ?  Why isn't it /home/codephodic/work  ?13:32
PiciDoes your NAS serve it as NFS or CIFS?13:33
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usr13codephobic: I just don't think /media/ is the best place for that.  What kind of files are they?13:33
mbeierlcodephobic: the no such device or address is calling out to me.  I would question if the IP address is still where you think it is.  Go on that box (and if it's Windows) do an ipconfig /all from a dos box?13:33
codephobicweb, illustrator, psd, system settings ... that's just the root folder13:34
vishnu_hello13:35
vishnu_any one there13:35
mbeierl_!ask | vishnu_13:35
ubottuvishnu_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:35
codephobicmbeierl, the ip address is of this machine. I'm pretty certain it's the correct address13:35
usr13codephobic: Actually, I made a mistake too. Should be:  192.168.1.7:office/ /media/work nfs rw,user,nolock,nocto,actimeo=360013:35
codephobicusr13, ah ok I'll give that a try13:36
vishnu_thanx13:36
usr13codephobic: Notice the :  instead of /  192.168.1.7:office  and not slash at the end  so:13:36
mbeierlcodephobic: what OS is on 192.168.1.7?13:36
usr13192.168.1.7:office /media/work nfs rw,user,nolock,nocto,actimeo=360013:36
usr13192.168.1.7:/what/ever/office /media/work nfs rw,user,nolock,nocto,actimeo=360013:37
mbeierlThe reason I ask is usr13's fstab entry is for NFS, and if that is Windows, it won't be serving up NFS...13:37
codephobicmbeierl, it's ubuntu (this host machine)13:37
mbeierlcodephobic: ok.13:37
codephobicthe vm I'm trying to setup is also ubuntu (12.04 LTS server)13:37
usr13codephobic: This is not for a nfs share?13:38
usr13codephobic: So it *is* nfs. Right?13:38
codephobicusr13, I need to set the share on both windows and ubuntu/debian vms, but this specific examples is ubuntu to ubuntu13:40
usr13codephobic: Ok, then use the example I showed you.  But correct the path(s) as needed.13:41
codephobicI tried the nfs example you suggested, but got an "bad superblock" error13:41
mbeierl_codephobic, you eventually will need to get the Windows share working too, and that will be another method.13:41
usr13codephobic: And set your exports file as needed13:41
codephobicmbeierl, I think windows uses cifs to communicate with linux, no?13:41
vishnu_hi guy can we delay the boot up time so that i can show off my new splash screen13:42
codephobicusr13, exports file?13:42
Wulfvishnu_: is that a grub splash screen?13:42
mbeierlcodephobic: yes, it will need to use cifs.  The setup you are working on with usr13 is NFS, which is a different filesystem.  You would need to make sure you have nfs client and server installed for that13:42
vishnu_ya13:42
Wulfvishnu_: yes, it's possible.13:42
usr13codephobic: /etc/exports  should have line like:   /office 192.168.1.0/24(rw)    #If that is the actual path.13:42
vishnu_thanks wulf13:43
codephobicah13:43
Wulfvishnu_: you're welcome13:43
vishnu_but how13:43
Mosselmanhey guys, I have a question about recording video from my webcam through command-line.13:43
Wulfvishnu_: don't know. Did you rtfm?13:43
vishnu_what is rtfm13:43
Wulfvishnu_: read the fascinating manual13:43
BluesKajWulf, don't , it's not funny either13:44
MosselmanI have found a command to use with ffmpeg online: `ffmpeg -f oss -i /dev/dsp…` I have no '/dev/dsp'. I have read that it has been replaced with libav or something, but how can I use that in the ffmpeg command?13:44
mbeierlWulf, if you don't have an example, don't tell people to go away.13:44
vaurdanHey guys13:44
usr13Mosselman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5907624/13:44
Wulfmbeierl: I told him to read. I know that it's easy to find in the docs.13:44
vaurdananyone knows why when I'm installing virtualbox, it asks me to remove gnome-terminal? :o13:45
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Mosselmanusr13: thanks, but I don't have /dev/dsp13:45
usr13codephobic: You have to use the *complete* path.13:45
vishnu_its really happens!13:45
WulfMosselman: you're probably using alsa or pulseaudio13:45
ActionParsnipvaurdan: where is virtualbox installing from?13:45
k1l_!rtfm | Wulf13:46
ubottuWulf: Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.13:46
vaurdandownloaded .deb from their site13:46
ActionParsnipvaurdan: the virtualbox repo, or the ubuntu repos?13:46
MosselmanWulf: probably, what should I use instead then? I have no idea how this works.13:46
ActionParsnipvaurdan: thats why then13:46
vaurdannow I just tried from ubuntu repos, and it works13:46
BluesKajmoss just replace ffmpeg with libav , the command strings are supposed to work the same for both13:46
vaurdanwirdo :o13:46
WulfMosselman: what are you trying to do?13:46
ActionParsnipvaurdan: I suggest you let the guys know13:46
BluesKajMosselman,^13:46
vaurdanI'll fill a bug report :)13:46
vaurdanin virtualbox site13:46
MosselmanWulf: record video from webcam through command-line13:46
ActionParsnipvaurdan: why not use the one from the ubuntu repos which is known to be good?13:46
vaurdan'cause I didn't checked first the repos13:46
vaurdanjust tried right now13:46
vaurdanehehhe13:46
WulfMosselman: your camera will probably not use a sound device13:46
ActionParsnipvaurdan: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose    done13:47
WulfMosselman: is it a usb camera?13:47
MosselmanWulf: 'dap' is just for audio?13:47
MosselmanWulf: yep13:47
vaurdanbtw, another question: there is any way to configure webcam (exposure, etc etc)?13:47
MosselmanI think it has audio, but whatever, video is fine for now13:47
blazemorevaurdan: That's configured on a per-app basis I think13:47
WulfMosselman: well, maybe it is alsa. Check if alsa shows you the camera device13:47
codephobicusr13, hmm, the folder "office" is actually on another disk, and I have setup a path with fstab to /office, so when I configured the fstab on the vm, I used <ip address>/office (and am now trying <ip address>:office)13:47
WulfMosselman: "aplay -L" or so13:47
vaurdanI can't find that option on skype though13:47
WulfMosselman: or arecord -l13:48
BauerI have trouble migrating from my HDd to SSD drive :( Latest attempt I tried following http://askubuntu.com/questions/40372/how-to-move-ubuntu-to-an-ssd  andcp -ax /media/hd /media/ssd copies like /media/ssd/hd instead of copying to ssd  folder13:48
blazemorevaurdan: I don't have Skype installed right now, but I'm sure there are video settings13:48
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MosselmanWulf yep it shows it13:48
BluesKajMosselman, I'll repeat in case you missed it ,  just replace ffmpeg with libav , the command strings are supposed to work the same for both13:48
Mosselmanwhat is the alsa equivalent of /dev/dsp? do you happen to know?13:48
vaurdanYup, there are, but it only allows me to select the camera...13:48
vaurdanI'm going to try luvcview13:49
WulfMosselman: "man ffmpeg", search for alsa. Not sure if suits your needs, though13:49
usr13codephobic: What is the full path to /office/ ?13:49
blazemorevaurdan: No option to reveal advanced settings?13:49
vaurdanno :o13:49
usr13codephobic: .... on the server end.13:49
MosselmanWulf thanks13:49
MosselmanBluesKaj: thanks, Ill give that a try13:49
MosselmanI missed it13:49
vaurdanskype since was bought by microsoft is so shitty in its linux version....13:49
codephobicthe full path on the server is: /office/13:49
blazemorevaurdan: Skype for Linux has always been sub-par compared to the Windows version13:50
Bauervaurdan: configuring video camera is done via a driver/device, not via skype settings in linux13:50
blazemoreBauer: Is that the case? I stand corrected then, sorry vaurdan13:50
Bauerblazemore: I remember tinkering with webcam long ago, you tweak the device, not the settings in skype. dont rememebr the details13:51
vaurdanblazemore, yes, I know, but since microsoft bought it, is so unstable on ubuntu13:51
usr13codephobic: So use the exports line I showed you and it should work for you.13:51
joshuwhen doing a new ubuntu desktop 13.04 install from the livecd is there a way to not install any extra/ additional applications apart from the essential base system?13:51
ActionParsnipjoshu: that is default, just dont select to install updates or codecs13:52
ActionParsnipjoshu: if yoou want bare basics you can use the minimal install13:52
MosselmanThanks guys (Wulf BluesKaj) it worked. Now just the adio13:52
Mosselmanaudio13:52
BauerI have trouble migrating from my HDd to SSD drive :( Latest attempt I tried following http://askubuntu.com/questions/40372/how-to-move-ubuntu-to-an-ssd  andcp -ax /media/hd /media/ssd copies like /media/ssd/hd instead of copying to ssd  folder..  Or can anyone instruct me how to migrate it properly?13:53
joshuActionParsnip oh ok I thought you had to do something else to specify that13:54
blazemoreBauer: The fact one is an SSD and one is an HDD is irrelevant - you need instructions on how to move an Ubuntu installation from one disk to another13:54
vaurdandoes anyone has an idea when are the foruns coming back?13:54
blazemoreBauer: So if you try searching for that, you might find more useful resources than if you search about SSDs13:54
usr13codephobic: And it should have permissions 755 for directory and 644 for files and owned by group users13:54
blazemorevaurdan: We only know what it says on the announcement page13:54
Bauergood idea blazemore , will give it a try.. thanks. unless someone answers faster :)13:55
codephobicusr13, just wrote the exports as you suggested. do I need to restart/reboot anything?13:55
blazemorejoshu: Take a look at http://askubuntu.com/a/20724113:55
ActionParsnipjoshu: there are ticky boxes to install extra stuff at install time, just read the screen13:56
usr13codephobic: Not sure, but just restarting nfs will do.  sudo service nfs restart13:57
codephobick13:57
Bauerblazemore: the general instructions all point to using gparted to "clone" the partitions and then install grub on it.  problem is that afterwards, I cant login on X. when I login on text mode, I get error after logging in like : setreuid operation failed13:58
usr13codephobic: And you can set up that same directory for a samba share as well.13:58
usr13codephobic: sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart14:00
MosselmanVideo works well now, but when using audio it messes up (hardly any file size, video is frozen image and audio is only a fraction of the time and inaccurate)14:00
Eurodoes someone know if the ubuntu edge will be shipped from within europe?14:01
PandinusImperatoEuro, yes14:03
PandinusImperatoFree shipping US/UK, $30 for other destinations14:03
WulfPandinusImperato: source of the information?14:03
usr13codephobic: And /office/ should probably be owned by group "users":  sudo chown codephobic:users /office/14:03
PandinusImperatohttp://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/ubuntu-edge-canonical-linux-smartphone-12266714:03
PandinusImperatosorry, wrong link14:04
PandinusImperatohttp://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge14:04
zerotrackhi, someone can tells me if user/password of ubuntuforums.org is the same of Launchpad and 'ask ubuntu' ?14:04
blazemorezerotrack: It's not14:04
ranticzerotrack: Unless you made it the same of course14:05
blazemore^14:05
Eurothank you PandinusImperato... very good, so no import taxes should apply for me14:05
qwebirc42327Hello, can anyone give me advice on how to install Ubuntu from a bios screen? Just doing my first build, thanks14:05
blazemoreqwebirc42327: Did you use a USB or a DVD?14:05
lukicatany1 has an idea how to get 'libgfortran.so.1' libraries on ubuntu 12.04??14:05
zerotrackrantic, ok, ok.. i mean if is the same 'login process'... you understand14:06
zerotrackblazemore, thanks14:06
usr13qwebirc42327: Just tell it to boot to the install media you have.14:06
qwebirc42327I'm trying to download it onto a USB but it's taking forever. But eventually USB, yeah.14:06
blazemorezerotrack: No, Ubuntu Single SignOn has not been compromised. Only vbulletin has been exploited14:06
Wulflukicat: sounds old. Can you not use the current version?14:06
ranticzerotrack: The services do not tie into each other. In other words, your ubuntuforums account has been compromised but this didn't give them access to your details at launchpad or ask ubuntu. They are unrelated in that respect.14:06
blazemoreqwebirc42327: You just boot from your installation medium and follow the instructions in the installer14:06
qwebirc42327Ok! Thanks14:07
usr13qwebirc42327: You may have boot options shown during boot process, maybe F12?  Watch for it during the bootup process, (right after post).14:07
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dontaforums hacked?14:07
zerotrackrantic, blazemore great, thank you guys14:07
usr13donta: Yes14:07
donta:/14:08
ActionParsnipdonta: yes, search the web, its all over14:08
dontaActionParsnip: just got the email14:08
usr13donta: We all need to change passwords periodically anyhow.14:08
dontado we know the method yet?14:08
ActionParsnipusr13: sadly, users rarely follow best practice14:08
usr13i know14:09
codephobicusr13, I keep getting  errors: http://pastebin.com/HVCg3evZ14:09
dontausr13: yup, just more email spam now :(14:09
codephobicwhat's the best way to setup shared folders between linux machines across a network? I think I should start over, as I'm really quite lost now.14:10
ActionParsnipcodephobic: I'd use SFTP, it installs when you install openssh-server14:10
ActionParsnipcodephobic: if you port forward port 22 on your router you can access your data from anywhere14:11
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BakaKunahi all, I have this very interesting, and fortunately reproducable bug. But I'm having a hard time trying to get together a bug report. When I force the bug, the system goes back to gdm log in. After that I can login to a graphical environment. A call trace for the event is then left on another (non graphical) tty. How do I get the call trace from this tty, so that i can attach it to my report?14:11
joshuon the laptop I'm testing (HP 655 on the ubuntu hardware certified list) why can't I change display brightness with the open-source default amd driver gallion, but with the propiertary fglrx I can? Everything seems to work otherwise, external monitors, mirroring etc, just not display brightness.14:12
codephobicActionParsnip, that sounds too powerful for me, I might end up compromising my system unintentionally. I'm just surprised I could get cifs to work by simply following googled instructions and adapt it to windows shares but can't get my linuxes sharing...14:12
usr13codephobic: Looks like you are trying to mount it from the server.  The fstab entry goes in the client.  The client, (another PC), will mount the [remote] nfs share.  After each rewrite of the /etc/exports file, I *think* you need to restart nfs deamon:  sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart14:12
codephobicusr13, I just tried restarting the nfs-kernel14:12
codephobicbut got the same error.14:12
codephobicI'm sure I've messed it up and I need to clean it out and start again...14:13
usr13codephobic: Show me the error.14:13
jacksHello! My screen flickers as soon as I start my system from suspension mode. Any solutions?14:13
EuroBakaKuna: you could try cat /dev/tt[numer] > /tmp/ttylog on another terminal14:13
codephobicusr13, this is error: http://pastebin.com/HVCg3evZ14:13
EuroBEFORE it start printing the trace14:14
blazemorejacks: Could you provide some more details about your hardware and Ubuntu version please?14:14
usr13codephobic: Yes, I see the error from mount. I just responded to that.14:14
ActionParsnipcodephobic: how do you compromise your own system using sftp?14:14
ihreI've just installed a clean version of Ubuntu x64 12.04, and upgraded to 12.10 with sudo do-dist-upgrade -d, yet now I'm booting in a black screen. I cant open any vconsoles to check logs. How should I continue?14:14
codephobicusr13, that's the same error I got after restarting nfs-kernel14:14
jacksblazemore: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. What details in hardware? 500gb hd , radeon graphics card and 4gb ram.14:14
usr13codephobic: But you said you got an error from restarting nfs-kernel-server14:15
ActionParsnipihre: -d will give you Saucy (13.10), not 12.1014:15
ActionParsnipihre: did it say saucy whilst it upgraded?14:15
usr13codephobic: Again;  The /etc/fstab enrty goes in on the client PC, (not the server).14:15
codephobicActionParsnip, I don't know ... but, I'm wary of setting up ftp on my system without understanding how to properly secure it.14:15
ihreHavent seen any references to saucy during the upgrade process, ActionParsnip14:16
ActionParsnipcodephobic: its not ftp, its sftp14:16
blazemoreihre: Why did you do that, rather than just installing 12.10 straight away?14:16
napsccodephobic: sftp is ftp over ssh14:16
ActionParsnipihre: if you boot to root recovery mode and login there, then run:  cat /etc/issue     what is output?14:16
codephobicusr13, the client is the VM right? I wrote the /etc/fstab on the vm14:16
ihrebecause of the alternate cd, I've put LVM ontop of raid 1, blazemore14:16
BakaKunaEuro: thnx, i'll try that14:17
ihrebrb, ill check it ActionParsnip14:17
codephobicActionParsnip, ah, well shows how much I know of it :(14:17
dranixhi14:17
dranixis anyone around??.. need a little help14:17
blazemore!ask | dranix14:17
ubottudranix: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:17
codephobicActionParsnip, I'll try that method next, just going to see if I've made some trivial mistake with the nfs that usr13 is helping me implement first.14:18
dranixi need help with ldap integration with packetfence14:18
blazemoredranix: #ubuntu-server will *almost certainly* be a better fit for that sort of question14:18
dranixthanks14:18
ihreActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue > Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l14:20
jacksblazemore: I googled that but wasn't able to find solution. Ubuntu forums are also down14:21
usr13codephobic: Wait, I thought these were two separate PCs.  Are they on the same PC?14:21
ElToro1966Ideas, anybody? http://askubuntu.com/questions/323900/13-04-install-stops-after-splash-screen-have-tried-everything-to-get-it-to-wor14:21
sin__taxanyone know why ddrescue seems to have not put any data on the target drive even though the files seem to be there now? http://pastebin.com/est3DLwu14:21
usr13codephobic: You need to tell me where these two systems really are.14:22
codephobicusr13, same pc one is a virtual machine (virtualbox) ubuntu server and the host is ubuntu 13.0414:22
codephobicusr13, sorry thought I'd explained the setup earlier14:22
ActionParsnipihre: ok, thats good, wht GPU do you use?14:23
ActionParsnipihre: did you install any proprietary video drivers?14:23
usr13codephobic: Oh, I didn't know.  There is a whole different way of sharing files from a virtualbox client to it's host.14:23
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codephobicI have a virtualbox VM (ubuntu 12.04 LTS server) that is running on this host14:23
usr13codephobic: I suppose nfs would work, but not the recommended method.14:23
ihreIm using the onboard gfx from a Gigabyte B75M-D3H incl. an i3-322014:24
ihreActionParsnip: I havent installed any proprietary drivers though14:24
codephobicusr13, ah... what would be the recommended way? I'll start again and undo the exports?14:24
usr13codephobic: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html14:25
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codephobicthanks, will have a read of that... hopefully I can sort it out by following the instructions.14:25
usr13codephobic: nfs is for sharing across the network, (to the rest of your PCs on the LAN).  Follwo the above URL and read14:25
codephobicthanks for all the help, sorry if it was a bit confusing and muddled.14:26
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usr13codephobic: "Shared folders"...14:26
jackssudo pm-hibernate also flickers the screen14:26
usr13codephobic: ... not that "Guest Additions" must be installed for this.14:27
codephobicusr13, but my VM is on the LAN across a bridge and is accessible by all my other VMs and the other PCs on the LAN ... but yeah, I'll go read ... I think I need to think this through again.14:27
codephobicyep, got Guest Additions installed.14:27
usr13codephobic: It depends.  You can share with any or all PCs on the LAN, (linux ones), as I showed you with nfs as well, but if you want to share from guest to host, see the instructions in the URL I gave you.14:28
usr13codephobic: The nfs settings will work if you get the /etc/exports and /etc/fstab entries correct.14:30
usr13codephobic: ... but you have to use *full* path(s).14:30
raubHow can I replace a given kernel module being used with a newer version? All that without rebooting?14:31
ActionParsnipihre: are you intending to upgrade to Raring?14:32
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ActionParsnipihre: any particular reason to not stay on Precise, its support far outstrips Quantal and Raring....14:32
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ihreActionParsnip: yes sir, im planning to upgrade to 13.04. Im installing the PC for a dev at work, they all use 13.04 apparently14:33
ActionParsnipihre:raring is EOL in Jan 201414:34
MonkeyDustraub  there's ksplice, i'm not sure you have to reboot after installing it itself14:34
MidnightNinjahey guys, does anyone know how to fix the brightness issue with an Nvidia 750m gpu?14:34
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue14:35
usr13codephobic: If you go further with nfs, read man nfs14:35
ihreActionParsnip: I will let my devs know !14:35
dennisnhow can I configure NetworkManager (or wpa_supplicant?) to set the variable ap_scan=114:35
MidnightNinjaActionParsnip: Is that one command in terminal?14:35
MidnightNinjaI'm still new to linux14:36
dennisncurrently my syslog says "NetworkManager...<info> Config: set interface ap_scan to 2" ... how is this being set/configured?14:36
MidnightNinjaActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l14:36
kirklandzip: grep crypt /proc/swaps14:37
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: perfect14:37
MidnightNinjaThank you :)14:37
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: does the system also have an Intel GPU? as in a laptop with a switchable GPU14:37
MidnightNinjaIts an nvidia geforce gt750m sli14:38
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel GPU too?14:38
jackscan anyone link me to screen flicker issue? I am having difficulty with that.14:38
MidnightNinjaActionParsnip: I only see two NVIDIA GPUs14:39
MidnightNinjaActionParsnip: If it helps, I'm also on the latest nvidia gpu drivers14:40
CatKillerHi there! I've made the stupid mistake of installing Ubuntu desktop instead of server14:40
CatKillerand now I'm stuck with this god awful automatic network configuration14:40
CatKilleris there a way to completely disable this weird network configuration daemon whatever its name is14:41
CatKillerit completely disregards settings set in /etc/network/interfaces14:41
CatKillerand overwrites my config every 3-4 minutes14:41
MonkeyDustCatKiller  now the installation is still clean, why not simply replace it with a server installation? easier, faster, cleaner!14:41
CatKillerMonkeyDust: This is a test server I'm only going to need for 5 minutesd14:42
CatKillerjust want to verify something14:42
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit14:42
CatKillerbut I need to be able to hold a config for these 5 minutes :p14:42
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: a URL will be generated14:42
CatKillerI find it amazing that on the desktop edition it's not possible to configure the network through the command line14:42
CatKillerit probably is14:42
CatKillerbut googling for it only shows results explaining how to change /etc/network/interfaces14:43
MonkeyDustCatKiller  an old post, 10.04, hope it's useful http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/08/quickly-disable-network-manager-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/14:43
CatKillerthanks, I'll try that14:43
CatKillerI so much hate this tool14:44
CatKillerin fact even the graphical interface version of it too is useless14:44
MonkeyDustCatKiller  luckily, you didnt install windows by accident14:45
CatKillerMonkeyDust: I'll say it here, I actually prefer the Windows network management, so bad it is, comparded to Ubuntu's NetworkManager and graphical tools14:45
CatKillerit's that bad for me14:45
MidnightNinjaActionParsnip:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5907803/14:46
Steve^Cats, Ninjas, Monkeys, Parsnips.. you guys all have funny names14:46
CatKillerMonkeyDust: Thanks for the tip anyways, I tried and waiting to make sure it works14:46
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CatKillerWhat's a "Steve"?14:47
MonkeyDustSteve Jobs14:47
MonkeyDustCatKiller  the network applet has the option to uncheck 'enable networking', maybe that's something of interest to you14:48
CatKillerMonkeyDust: I had tried before and it didn't really change much14:50
CatKillerMonkeyDust: The solution you gave me is perfect14:50
CatKillerMonkeyDust: It reads configuration from /etc/network/interface first and does not override it14:50
CatKillerMonkeyDust: The file location is slightly different but it's perfect14:50
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: then how did you install the driver?14:50
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: I recommend you use the additional drivers app in the system settings14:51
MidnightNinjathe nvidiabl driver?14:51
MonkeyDustCatKiller  hope it helps you liking ubuntu a bit more14:51
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: it installs the driver for you14:51
MidnightNinjaActionParsnop: I went to that page, and nothing showed up14:51
CatKillerMonkeyDust: I already love Ubuntu, just not the network manager ;p14:51
MidnightNinjaActionParsnip: I went to that page, and nothing showed up14:51
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: or:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current14:52
MidnightNinjaActionParsnip: I downloaded them from the NVIDIA site, and manually ran it from a terminal14:52
ActionParsnipMidnightNinja: why, when there are packages for it, it will also auto update when the packages update, just like your applications14:54
mozahello, i have three parts on my extended partition : one is linux, one is swap (in the middle) and the rest is free. I want to merge the free into the linux part, is this possible?14:55
MidnightNinjaActionParnsip: That, I am unsure of.  I hadn't seen that command before--I'm running it now14:55
MidnightNinjaMoza: you can with gparted14:55
MidnightNinjamoza: just know its not worth it14:55
mozaWhy is it not worth it MidnightNinja ?14:56
t0phuxWell, my 12.04 Server will not boot anymore.  Originally, I had problems because my /boot was full during a kernel update.  This made mismatched linux-image-server and linux-image-generic.  I rebooted into recovery and got the kernel stuff cleared up, and reinstalled grub for good measure.  Now when I try and boot I just stuck on the disk drive for /tmp is not ready, and can't get past this point.  When I try and skip it tells me it ca14:56
t0phuxany advice?14:56
MidnightNinjamoza: because theres a high chance of data corruption14:56
usr13ActionParsnip: Was just looking at your conversation with CatKiller, and wondering why just uninstalling network-manager is not a simplier option?14:57
MidnightNinjamoza: if you really wanted to do it, I'd format the swap so it is also free, and extend the rest of the partition14:57
CatKillerusr13: It's somehow near impossible, and time consuming14:57
blazemoreusr13: Doesn't uninstalling network-manager break ubuntu-desktop?14:57
ThePendulumGreetings14:57
mozaok MidnightNinja, i can do that. Should i do it from the live cd and not while running then?14:57
CatKillerusr13, It's the Internet Explorer of Ubuntu14:57
MidnightNinjamoza: run gparted from a live usb14:58
usr13ActionParsnip: CatKiller blazemore I don't know how it could break ubuntu-desktop?? sudo apt-get urge network-manager*  ? I dono, just asking.14:58
jhpy1024Anyone know how much the Ubuntu Edge will cost if it gets funded and it's released?14:58
ThePendulumI have indirectly reinstalled the Ubuntu desktop (including, apparently, Compiz). This made the 'sticky windows' option disappear from the Compiz Config Settings Manager. I noticed it wasn't present in CCSM in Ubuntu 13.04 either. Does anyone know how to enable sticky windows without it?14:58
CatKillerusr13: I tried before and I remember there were some issues14:58
CatKillerusr13: MonkeyDust's solution is perfect14:59
t0phuxWell, my 12.04 Server will not boot anymore.  Originally, I had problems because my /boot was full during a kernel update.  This made mismatched linux-image-server and linux-image-generic.  I rebooted into recovery and got the kernel stuff cleared up, and reinstalled grub for good measure.  Now when I try and boot I just stuck on the disk drive for /tmp is not ready, and can't get past this point.  When I try and skip it tells me it ca14:59
mozaMidnightNinja, ok, but i'll have to create myself a liveusb first, and see if i have a big enough drive somewhere, thanks a lot for the advice :)15:01
MidnightNinjano problem15:01
rawrmonsterIf anyone is good at iptables can you please take a look at this pastebin http://pastebin.com/nZt7eZXM . I have just recently started learning about iptables but wanted to set up a linux router + firewall, but i dont want to have huge holes open.15:01
usr13CatKiller: I followed the URL and yea, looks simple enough, but I'm pretty sure that ubuntu-server does not have network-manager and that /etc/network/interfaces config file works independently of network-manager, needs no part of it and so uninstalling network-manager would have no effect, as far as I know. I've un-installed network-manager before and hat no problem.  Just wondering if things have changed.  I don't know.  Maybe I'll experiment with it and see15:02
CatKillerusr13: The server version doesn't have it indeed15:02
CatKillerusr13: I'll try next time alright15:02
usr13CatKiller: Yea, and I'm not really sury why I'd have software installed that is disabled and not used.15:03
L3toprawrmonster: just so you know your echo at the end is ech015:03
usr13*not sure*  instead of sury15:03
CatKillerusr13: This is a test machine it doesn't matter. Also it is still used, it simply does not ignore an important file15:03
usr13"does not ignore an important file"?15:04
rawrmonsterL3top: :D ty i must have miss typed it when i put it in paste bin was copying from my notepad lol15:04
rawrmonsterL3top: does it look right tho?15:04
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L3toprawrmonster: What is this supposed to be doing? iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i ! eth1 -j ACCEPT15:07
rawrmonsterL3top: if its a new connection thats not from the interface eth1 to accept15:08
blazemoresync15:08
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L3topJust making sure. I assume this is in case you have more than 2 nics. It doesn't look wrong to me... but it is not my area.15:09
rawrmonsterL3top: because in my example eth1 is the internet while eth0 is the lan15:09
L3toprawrmonster: ^15:09
rawrmonsterL3top: yes there is two nic's because you have to be able to have one connected to the modem while one is connected to a switch15:09
L3topJust making sure. I assume this is in case you have more than 2 nics.15:10
L3topeg 3+15:10
rawrmonsterL3top: nope just 2 its for a small office15:10
L3topotherwise you should just specify eth015:10
L3topbecause if there are three nics it will try and forward it15:10
L3topwhatever "it" is15:10
rawrmonsterok15:11
rawrmonster:D i found a iptables irc ty for your help tho15:11
checoimgHi guys I'm having trouble logging in to Ubuntu15:14
rawrmonsterdid you forget your password?15:14
raubchecoimg: can you elaborate?15:14
checoimgrwarmonster : That's what you would think but no15:14
holsteinchecoimg: i would login via tty to confirm you know the password, and try as another user to see if its an issue with the session or your user config15:15
checoimgraub : Well I input the password and the screen flashes black and doesn't log , it just goes back to blank and ask for my password again15:15
L3toprawrmonster: I would let it detect and assign. For instance if a nic died, and another was installed, or for whatever reason udev is written oddly due to screwing around... it will not work.15:16
L3toprawrmonster: s/let it/write it to/15:16
MonkeyDustchecoimg  can you change the DE and login? also: type ctrl-alt F1 and use df -h to make sure you don't have 100% full anywhere15:16
rawrmonsterL3top: i can make a udev rule to force naming of the devices15:17
L3toprawrmonster: fair enough15:17
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checoimgI only have Unity15:17
BluesKajusr13, network manager setttings overwrite /etc/network/interfaces, NM has to be removed if you want to use the network inbterfaces settings15:18
holsteinchecoimg: try the guest session, if you dont want to make a new user.. i think you'll find the issue is in the user /home15:18
MonkeyDustchecoimg  press ctrl-alt F1 and install a different DE, see if you can login into that one15:18
raubchecoimg: you should also have console login (the ctrl-alt-f1 being mentioned)15:18
t0phuxAB044815:19
checoimgLet me try the Guest session. BRB15:19
t0phuxWell, my 12.04 Server will not boot anymore.  Originally, I had problems because my /boot was full during a kernel update.  This made mismatched linux-image-server and linux-image-generic.  I rebooted into recovery and got the kernel stuff cleared up, and reinstalled grub for good measure.  Now when I try and boot I just stuck on the disk drive for /tmp is not ready, and can't get past this point.  When I try and skip it tells me it ca15:19
checoimgI will also check the ctrl alt f115:19
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holsteint0phux: you did what for "good measure"? and why? and how *exactly*15:19
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t0phuxholstein: I booted into recovery, mounted all my drives, chrooted, apt-get purge, reinstall, make-config, grub-update, grub-install15:21
t0phuxI reinstalled because I was getting fr0 read error when booting up, I thought was a symptom, but turns out it was an irrelevent error relating to dell virtual drives through the DRAC15:22
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holsteint0phux: i would search the exact error15:22
t0phuxI've been through google without help, which is why I'm here15:23
t0phuxThe exact error is "The disk drive fo r/tmp is not ready yet or not present15:23
holsteint0phux: is it ready? or present?15:24
raubt0phux: do you need /tmp for now? If you have the memory I would set it as tmpfs in fstab and then see what else it is bitching about15:24
t0phuxwhen skipping, I get "swapon: /dev/mapper/ldc278-swap_1: swapon failed: Device or resource busy15:24
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t0phuxraub: when I go into the maintenance shell I can mount the drives, so I believe the drives are working15:24
holsteint0phux: confirm that.. i would test them with diagnostic tools to be sure15:25
t0phuxholstein, it's a RAID 115:25
keythug__ /load .xchat2/budus.so15:25
Lizards|Worksoftware or hardware15:25
t0phuxhardware15:25
t0phuxPERC615:25
holsteint0phux: is that a confirmation of the hardware state?15:26
holsteint0phux:  you say "i believe the drives are working" .. you obviously have a problem, and if it were me, i would confirm that the hardware is not the issue15:27
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t0phuxraub: I def have the memory 32GB, how do I make those changes to my fstab?15:27
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holstein!fstab15:27
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions15:27
Picikeythug__: Please stop.15:27
OerHekskeythug__, play in #test with your buduscript please15:28
t0phuxholstein: I can obviously access the data, and chroot into the system, perform updates, fixed the kernel and reinstall grub, I'm PRETTY sure the drives are working just fine15:28
raubt0phux: something like15:28
raubtmpfs              /tmp            tmpfs   nodev,nosuid,size=512M,mode=1777  0       015:28
raubin fstab should do the trick15:28
t0phuxraub: kk give me a sec15:28
raubAdjust the size as needed15:28
ActionParsnipt0phux: sweet rig dude15:28
holsteint0phux: OK.. if you get further down the road, and dont get anywhere, and want to confirm that theory, i would use smart tools to be sure the drives are good.. it literally wont hurt15:29
raubI would also comment out the swap entry in fstab15:29
raubFYI, we do not use swap in our servers15:29
t0phuxkk, booting now, this box is in colo, so it makes it a little harder15:29
raubI know how it is; I am bitchslapping a machine here (ssd in raid alignment fun) by accessing it though ipmi15:30
Michael____Hello15:34
Michael____Ubuntu forums got hacked and my password is out in the open. Is there a way to find out what my password on Ubuntu Forums was?15:34
raubt0phux: any luck?15:34
Lizards|WorkMichael____, wait for the forums to come back up and try logging in using your known passwords15:35
DJonesMichael____: Maybe ask in #ubuntuforums they may be able to advise you there15:35
k1l_Michael____: no15:35
holsteinMichael____: the hashed passwords were compromised.. not plain text15:35
Michael____It was hashed? ok, that's better15:35
Michael____What was the hash?15:35
wilee-nileeMichael____, You get the email from the forums?15:35
holsteinMichael____: that is fact.. "better" is a matter of opinion15:35
k1l_Michael____: for more details see #ubuntuforums15:36
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raubMichael____: it depends on the hash and how many bitcoin rigs are doing nothing right now ;)15:36
Michael____Yes, I got the email15:36
Lizards|Workinc rainbow table15:36
raubLizards|Work: that too15:36
checoimgOk I'm back I know my password and the guest session works15:39
blazemoreMichael____: Your message implies the information was *released* is that the case?15:39
checoimgBut networking is not working15:39
holsteinchecoimg: then, i would remove configs from the user /home, and test15:39
Michael____This ->"The Ubuntu forums software was compromised by an external attacker. As a result, the attacker has gained access to read your username, email address and an encrypted copy of your password from the forum database."15:39
wilee-nileeblazemore, #ubuntuforums is your info central on this.15:40
Lizards|Workthat's still not publicly released, which would be worse15:40
blazemorewilee-nilee: I know the answer is no, that's what I was implying in the question15:40
checoimgBut I;m using this very user with another kernel15:40
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checoimgIn the linux channel they told me kernel version has nothing to do with logging15:40
wilee-nileeblazemore, Why and it is offtopic.15:40
raubchecoimg: elaborate. Are you using network manager or what?15:41
tree49hi frens i there is problem in booting from hdd in my laptop i m booting from pendrive and i can read videos of hdd ->does that mean hdd is fine and what should i do to completely format my hdd from pendrive it had windows and ubuntu15:41
k1l_checoimg: kernel does interfer with networking. so try the same kernel?15:42
raubtree49: what kind of problem? Grub issues?15:42
checoimgThe default network manager that comes with Ubuntu15:42
DeltaHeavy_Hey, is there any information on when the forums will be back up?15:42
checoimgThe only thing that i snot default is the kernel15:42
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tree49i dont know it just does not boot at all15:43
raubk1l_: ian----wonder what his dmesg is saying.15:43
MonkeyDustDeltaHeavy  #ubuntuforums15:43
DeltaHeavyMonkeyDust: Thanks15:43
* raub curses autocomplete15:43
blazemoretree49: What happens when you try to boot normally? When did it stop working?15:43
CatKillerhi there! Is the "CONCURRENCY_LEVEL" variable still in use by "make-kpkg" when building a new kernel?15:43
raubWhere does it stop booting? Which step/screen?15:43
CatKillerit seems that it ignores it completely15:44
awktion~_~;15:44
CatKillerI'm running Ubuntu 13.0415:44
t0phuxraub: success, sorry was on the phone15:45
CatKillernevermind, was running the make as root in a different shell15:45
holsteinchecoimg: you know its not the password, and you know its not the system, if you can boot into the guest account.. what to i propose it is? the session config in the users home15:45
tree49actually i compiled kernel in ubuntu and i found problem after rebooting graphic driver problem then i tried to boot windows it said repairing disk and didnt halt repairing for hours so i used pendrive  to boot i tried to install ubuntu but it does no proceed after checking power plug free spce internet15:46
t0phuxraub: I got it to boot to the login screen after some waiting (disabled swap, and added tmpfs in fstab)  So what doe sthat mean?15:46
holsteinchecoimg: you can literally move all .config files out of your home temporarily, and test the login15:46
blazemoretree49: Are you on the LiveCD now?15:46
raubholstein: or tell /etc/passwd his homedir is /tmp :)15:46
tree49usb instaler15:46
blazemoretree49: But you are in a live environment?15:47
holsteinraub: i'll let you take that over, if you want to direct checoimg that way15:47
tree49i m from bootable pendrive15:47
k1l_checoimg: again: if it works with the regular kernel its quite clear where the problem is15:47
blazemoretree49: You can follow these instructions, you won't have to reinstall your Ubuntu. Just don't try booting into your custom installed kernel, choose one of the default ones instead15:48
raubt0phux: you might want to check the partitions you disabled15:48
blazemoretree49: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/15:48
checoimgOk15:48
checoimgholstein : I'll try that later, Thank you :)15:48
ActionParsniptree49: omgubuntu has one called: sticking it to grub15:52
jacksI keep on getting system has reported a problem message! Ubuntu 12.04 LTS15:52
cutieActionParsnip: I have used boot-repair sucesfully in the past15:52
tree49actionparsnip ??15:52
keythug_http://www.failmind.com/elenco.php?code=4f8eda95c33d45293c7e4203e57b5f4f15:53
hassanHow to search local drives in Dash in ubuntu 13.0415:54
raubHow do i find the erase block size for a SSD?15:54
awktionkeythug_:15:55
awktion;; AUTHORITY SECTION:15:55
awktioncom.                    752     IN      SOA     a.gtld-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1374681171 1800 900 604800 8640015:55
DJoneskeythug_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question15:55
FloodBot1awktion: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:55
awktionshush floodbot15:55
awktion3 lines is not a flood15:56
skulltipwhere would system fonts be located15:56
Lizards|Workheh15:56
awktion~_~;15:56
awktionTHAT's spam15:56
basilaliasdid any1 know how to install opencv 2.4.6 on ubuntu 12.0415:56
awktionanyway @ keythug_ got a link to a site that actually has DNS?15:56
awktion!opencv15:57
hassanHow to search local drives in Dash in ubuntu 13.0415:57
Lizards|Work8.8.8.8 is google's public DNS afaik15:57
Nach0z8.8.4.4 is as well15:57
Nach0zone's on the east coast and one's on the west, don't remember which though15:57
awktionbasilalias: try google, looks to be pretty simple.15:57
hassanHow to search local drives in Dash in ubuntu 13.0415:58
awktion8.8.8.8 has no entry nor does 4.2.2.215:58
basilaliasthanku awktion15:58
awktionnor does 8.8.4.415:59
awktioni.e. its basically broken.15:59
awktionprobably if its DNS does exist, it doesn't allow for replication15:59
awktionhttp://pastebin.com/0DErWEVN <- real dig16:01
Lizards|Workdo you have any networking?16:02
Lizards|Workcan you ping loopback?16:02
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irreverantWhat's the easiet way to format a 2gb drive in a ubuntu livecd with XFS?16:04
irreverantWhat's the easiet way to format a 2gb drive in a ubuntu livecd with XFS?16:04
Lizards|Workman mkfs16:04
cutieirreverant: If you want to use a GUI, use gparted16:04
irreverantare you saying to look at the manual page for make filesystem?16:04
Lizards|Workcorrect16:04
irreverantcutie: so use gparted?16:05
keythug_wajù io è la prima volta con xchat come si scaricano i file ?16:05
cutieirreverant: If you want to use a GUI, use gparted16:05
Lizards|Workgparted works if you can install it16:05
cutieLizards|Work: gparted is included on the livecd16:05
Pici!it | keythug_16:05
ubottukeythug_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)16:05
cutieLizards|Work: it just isn't installed in a proper installation16:05
keythug_ok16:05
irreverantcutie: that's what I needed to know.16:05
Lizards|Workah, i wasn't 100% on packages on the livecd but not in the install16:05
keythug_ /join #ubuntu-it16:05
t0phuxI'm pretty sure gparted is on the live cd, no?16:06
keythug_ #ubuntu-it16:06
wilee-nileeyah sure you betcha t0phux16:06
cutiet0phux: You're correct, it is. However, it is removed during installation. This is probably because gparted is a useful tool for diagnostics and stuff, and that's often what people use a LiveCD for16:07
Lizards|Workbut why not include it in the full installation then? it's a GUI for the people who don't want to roll up their sleeves and open the man page for mkfs16:07
edjuI received an email from, according to the header, pesanta.canonical.com.  It says that because of the hack on the ubuntu forum,  I should change passwords at all sites on which I've registered my email address.  Anyone else get such an email?16:07
irreverantIt's a raw drive from a NAS running Raid 5. I need to format it in XFS before the damn thing will be recognized so that I can begin to build the array.16:08
Lizards|Workedju, everyone who registered at the ubuntu forums16:08
irreverantSo what I'm thinking is throw it in as secondary SATA and boot from the Ubuntu Livecd; so then I can theoritically use gpart to format in XFS, correct?16:08
ranticA bit of a random question and kind of Ubuntu related ... does anyone know what wireless keyboard is featured in the Ubuntu Edge promo video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLe3iIMN7k&feature=player_detailpage&t=8016:08
wilee-nileerantic, #ubuntu-touch is edge central16:09
irreverantcute: So what I'm thinking is throw it in as secondary SATA and boot from the Ubuntu Livecd; so then I can theoritically use gpart to format in XFS, correct??16:09
irreverantcutie: anyone:??16:09
edjuLizards|Work, Ok, so it's not spam.  Problem is, I never registered at ubuntu forums.  I don't use ubuntu, never have.16:09
wilee-nileeI doubt anyone knows unless they recognizes it though16:10
Lizards|Workedju, somebody used your email address and registered somewhere then16:10
irreverantit's either i use ubuntu or knoppix.16:10
PandinusImperatoThere has been a security breach on the Ubuntu Forums.16:11
PandinusImperatointeresting16:11
DJonesPandinusImperato: We know, discussion in either #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuforums16:11
PandinusImperatoI'll join those now16:11
irreverantDoes gpart come in the live cd definitevly?16:13
xtrezi have just installed ubuntu 13.04 and updated my system, i can't find gawk, yacc or bison,.16:14
irreverantI know i can use  mkfs.xfs but i’m sure of the syntax16:14
raubirreverant: it seems to be the case in this 13.04 desktop, which I am running as livecd16:14
irreveranti’m not sure of the syntax since it’s a raw drive16:15
arashhello , ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my graphics card ,even after updates16:15
irreverantdoes it have to be make.xfs //hda1 ?16:15
Lizards|Worksudo apt-get install linux-source linux-headers-generic16:15
Lizards|Workarash ^^^^16:15
heyuxiangActionParsnip: CD is really slow.16:16
heyuxiangActionParsnip: not in a hurry, but time is money16:16
arashmy resolution is incorrect :-(16:16
joshuwhy do I keep getting "no protocol specified error opening display :0" no matter what I try to do that I've found on google16:17
arashActionParShip : are you there ?16:17
xtrezwhy can't i see byacc and flex in ubuntu software center but i can install it from terminal ?16:17
joshuAll I'm trying to do is start xfreerdp from lightdm16:17
xtrezno one is helping :( :(16:18
ranticxtrez: What is your problem?16:19
irreverantmkfs.xfs /dev/sda116:20
irreverantis this correct16:20
Lizards|Workxtrez, does apt-get use the same software repositories as ubuntu package managers?16:20
EuroAnd did you check the "show technical files" option?16:21
xtrezrantic, i can't find byacc, flex, gawk or bison in ubuntu software center but they can be downloaded from terminal using sudo apt-get install.16:21
xtrezLizards|Work, how to check that ?16:21
Lizards|Workirreplaceable, looks accurate if /dev/sda1 is what you want formatted16:22
irreverantLizard: well I assume that’s the hard drive that I will be formatting16:24
honvaihow to add memory to a virtual memory card?16:24
irreverantis hd0 and sd0 the same thing? sd0 represent the harddisk drive correct?16:24
xtrezLizards|Work, and rantic  any idea ?16:24
Lizards|Workhd0 would be pata, neh?16:24
arashmy video card driver is not found :-((16:24
arasheven in additional driver software It doesn't detect It16:24
Lizards|Workhttp://google.com#q=ubuntu+software+center+repositories+versus+apt-get16:25
hacksawHello folks, can anyone help me with Ubuntu booting? If I have connected any USB (e.g. mouse) it won't boot, all I get is black screen, google didn't answer anything... I have Dell Inspiron notebook.16:25
OerHeksLizards|Work, yes, apt-get and softwarecenter share the same sources. do not use them together, as you will get an error.16:27
OerHeks* one instance only16:27
OerHeks!nomodeset | hacksaw16:29
ubottuhacksaw: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:29
irreverantok so sd0 is for SATA connections...16:29
OerHeksbut ubuntuforums is down :-(16:29
irreverantso there is a distictions in identification for parallel vs sata...16:29
Otaku_When I try to install the canon driver for my Canon Pixma MP210 i get the following errors: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-51efffd9544595.11162613.png16:30
voehi. ive googled to setup my awus036nhr wifi dongle connected to my beaglebone black but i'm still stuck. i dont know cli much. :/16:30
Otaku_ when i try to install libcupsys2 it says that there is only libcups2 and that i have already the latest version of it.16:30
irreverantso it’ snot just an arbitrary representation of the connectino type.... so it’s not just harddisk but16:30
hacksawubottu: Yes, I tried this, no sollution given :(16:30
ubottuhacksaw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:30
irreverant‘sata harddisk’16:30
irreverant“”16:30
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OerHekshacksaw, http://askubuntu.com/questions/207175/what-does-nomodeset-do  askubuntu is up16:30
hacksawOerHeks:  Yes, this also didn't work for me:(16:31
hacksawOerHeks: I'd tried to google something before I came here16:31
awktionhacksaw: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html16:32
OerHekshacksaw, what videocard does it have, or cards?16:32
Kunalcan someone help me in setting up vnc on my server?16:33
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Otaku_When I try to install the canon driver for my Canon Pixma MP210 i get the following errors: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-51efffd9544595.11162613.png    when i try to install libcupsys2 it says that there is only libcups2 and that i have already the latest version of it.16:35
awktion!vnc | Kunal16:35
ubottuKunal: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX16:35
hacksawOerHeks: nVidia16:35
hacksawOerHeks: Just a minute, I find out the type16:35
Kunal!freeNX16:36
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX16:36
mynameisdeletedso.. ccsm crashes16:36
mynameisdeletedany suggestions?16:36
mynameisdeletedcompiz works but I cant change how it works16:36
hacksawOerHeks: GeForce GT 525M16:36
mynameisdeletedany alternatives to ccsm to configure compiz?16:37
DeltaHeavyDo any of Ubuntu's other services store any of my passwords as an MD5 hash? I want to know so I can withdraw from those systems.16:37
arashUbuntu works well now , but I still have problems with graphics card , the resolution is not good (must be 1024x768 - is 1024x600)16:37
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LinXNutHello16:38
luigi69Hello.16:39
luigi69I have few questions about gnome-terminal colorscheme.16:40
LinXNutI think the person that hacked the site got my email because someone tried changing my password for Battle.net16:40
LinXNut3 times lol16:40
DeltaHeavyDo any of Ubuntu's other services store any of my passwords as an MD5 hash? I want to know so I can withdraw from those services.16:40
DeltaHeavyLinXNut: You might want to know that the passwords were hashed in a way where anybody could easily crack them. They might as well have been stored in plain text.16:40
DeltaHeavylike…EASILY16:41
luigi69I open my gnome-terminal profile file (%gconf.xml) and I see colros stored like so: "#00002B2B3636" - ain't that too long? What is this format?16:41
DeltaHeavyIt's somewhat VB's fault for using such out-dated tech.16:41
OerHekshacksaw, maybe this page about gt 525 http://askubuntu.com/questions/132112/how-to-install-nvidia-geforce-gt525m-driver-on-ubuntu12-04 > when black screen appears, login with ctrl + alt + F2 , and install nvidia current16:41
DeltaHeavyluigi69: Format is #RRGGBB16:41
LinXNutI know I have changed my email passwords and everything personal now.16:42
luigi69So why are mine twisce as large, DeltaHeavy?16:42
DeltaHeavyI honestly think they should make it more well known exactly how vulnerable people's passwords are16:42
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hacksawOerHeks: OK, thank you, I'll try this :)16:42
DeltaHeavyluigi69: Not sure, perhaps they're using more bytes per colour?16:43
ekzgood afternoon16:43
bpat1434Is it possible to create a new network interface without having hardware behind it?  E.g. I want eth256 not eth0:016:44
ekzMy ubuntu 12.04 is very glitchy and slow how could i improve it?16:44
LinXNutekz what is your graphics card?16:45
ekznvidia 8000 notebook gimme a sec16:45
arashLinXNut can you help me too ? I have a Netbook which has ubuntu 13.04 installed on It16:45
LinXNutIt is also slow and glitchy?16:46
arashthe resolution is not right Its now 1024x600 , It must be 1024x76816:46
kostkon_arash, netbooks have 1024x600 16:9 res16:46
ekzgeforc 8000m gtx16:47
wilee-nileearash, Asking users for help rather than waiting is not a good idea.16:47
arash@kostkon mine was 1024x768 on windows16:47
kostkon_arash, are you sure about that?16:47
arashyes16:47
kostkon_arash, ok then16:47
mirantistcrI've got static in my audio and the Ubuntu Forums are down. I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 on a System 76 Gazelle Pro. Is this the right place to get help?16:47
LinXNutekz I think you should be using the Noveau driver?16:47
xtrezrantic, i can't find byacc, flex, gawk or bison in ubuntu software center but they can be downloaded from terminal using sudo apt-get install.?16:48
xtrezanyone know solution to the above prob16:48
wilee-nileemirantistcr, Sure, is there a direct to system 76 besides the forums threads?16:48
ekzhow could i change it to the original one?  i think i downloaded before the nvidia drivers16:48
ekzhow could i know? lspci?16:48
OerHeksbpat1434, yes, the fix is @ 3 " SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="0a:03:27:c2:b4:eb", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" >> change NAME="eth255" i guess >   http://www.serenux.com/2009/11/howto-fix-a-missing-eth0-adapter-after-moving-ubuntu-server-from-one-box-to-another/16:48
LinXNutyea ekz type "lspic -v" and see what "drivers are in use"16:48
mirantistcrSystem 76 doesn't seem to have their own forums.16:49
LinXNut@ekz in the terminal16:49
luigi69DeltaHeavy - I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198927/what-color-format-gnome-terminal-color-pallete-use16:49
OerHeksbpat1434, the solution is that fix reversed16:49
DeltaHeavyCools16:49
wilee-nileemirantistcr, Ah, I was not sure if there was a help via email..etc, but yeaj here is cool.16:49
DeltaHeavyIf anybody cares to read/respond to my query about the password hashes in the forum, it would be appreciated - http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1iyro6/are_the_ubuntu_forums_leaked_password_hashes_only/16:49
wilee-nileeyeah*16:49
OerHeksDeltaHeavy, please don't spam, join #ubuntuforums for discussion16:50
mirantistcrwilee-nilee, they do have email support, but I figured I'd check here first.16:50
DeltaHeavyOerHeks: They don't want to hear any critisism16:50
wilee-nileemirantistcr, Cool, may be faster. ;)16:50
mirantistcrwilee-nilee, that's exactly what I was thinking :)16:50
ekzhello again LinXNut16:51
ekzindeed i think the nouveau module is active.16:51
LinXNutHey did you find ohhh ok16:51
ekzKernel modules: nvidia_173, nvidia_current, nouveau, nvidiafb16:52
LinXNutThats perfect then thats all you need16:52
LinXNutIs it still glitchy?16:52
xtrez i can't find byacc, flex, gawk or bison in ubuntu software center but they can be downloaded from terminal using sudo apt-get install.?16:52
xtrezpls help me guys, no one here know this ??16:52
ekzyup it gets very glitchy and also some times tells the system has crashed bla blah16:52
LinXNutOh wow...ummm. What type of processor do you have?16:53
LinXNutxtrez why not just download from the terminal? :o16:53
DJonesxtrez: I can see all three of those in Software centre16:53
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wilee-nileextrez, You are not looking correctly, and quit repeating.16:54
xtrezLinXNut, it's possible that i might not know the name of all the software..16:54
xtrezDJones, but i can't see all those 3 in software center.16:54
ekzLinXNut, its  Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 (2.4GHz)16:54
dagerikxiudo: the software center is a front end to apt-get. just use use apt-get install <software>16:54
dagerikxiudo: apt-cache search <term> to search16:55
irreveranti need to know another linux distro that’s simple, possibly light, gui and has gparted available that comes in a livecd16:55
xtrezwilee-nilee, i am looking it carefull really i can't find them.16:55
irreverantubuntu live won’t load on this win 7 box16:55
mumpitze1xtrez: apt-cache search yacc16:55
OerHeksxtrez, they are not in the repo's afaik > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7320370/installation-of-flex-and-bison-in-ubuntu16:55
MonkeyDustirreverant  win7 has nothing to do with it16:55
irreverantwell it’s a dell box16:55
mumpitze1irreverant: why are you asking this in #ubuntu then? I suggest ##linux. gparted has its own livecd16:55
LinXNutekz: are you using any compositing manager? Like compiz or visual effects?16:56
DJones!info flex16:56
ubottuflex (source: flex): A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.35-10.1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 211 kB, installed size 468 kB16:56
xtrezmumpitze1, it dislpays all the requried software that way, but they are not visible in software center.16:56
mumpitze1OerHeks: of course they are http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bison&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all16:56
ekzmmm im using cairo dock, and the regular sidebar from ubuntu16:57
OerHeksxtrez, install synaptics for detailed packagelists.16:57
luigi69How could I have 16 colors pallete in gnome-terminal (8 base colros + 16 bright colors)? By default I have the bright colors used for bold instead.16:57
LinXNutekz: maybe turn off cairo dock and see how it operates?16:57
luigi69https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6419178/colortest.png16:58
ekzit works the same! ... im using it now cairo-dock without open gl16:58
LinXNutYour graphics card is similar to mine, it shouldn't be lagging at all16:58
DJones!screenshot | xtrez Can you take a screenshot of software centre when you search for bison and upload it to imagebin so that we can see what you're seeing16:59
ubottuxtrez Can you take a screenshot of software centre when you search for bison and upload it to imagebin so that we can see what you're seeing: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.16:59
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xtrezDJones, just a sec16:59
xtrezOerHeks, can't find synaptics16:59
farbodhi16:59
LinXNutekz: Do you mean when you open things its slow or just the graphics is lagging?17:00
mirantistcrwilee-nilee, this is what I have for audio in DMESG: [    2.877980] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:03.0: irq 48 for MSI/MSI-X17:00
mirantistcr[    2.882583] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro17:00
mirantistcr[    2.889685] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=8 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input617:00
mirantistcr[    2.892423] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=7 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input717:00
mirantistcr[    2.892728] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input817:00
mirantistcr[    2.893869] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 49 for MSI/MSI-X17:00
FloodBot1mirantistcr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:00
ekzi know it used to work better with previous ubuntu but now i dont know whats going on17:00
wilee-nileemirantistcr, I would not have any idea.17:00
LinXNutmaybe disable the nvidia_current, and nvidia drivers. Leave the Noveau17:01
mirantistcrwilee-nilee, thanks. I'll post to general.17:01
LinXNutIf its better, it should be okay.17:01
xtrezDJones, no after doing sudo apt-get update and restarting my machine, they all are visible in software center17:01
DJonesxtrez: Ah well, problem solved17:02
xtrezDJones, :)17:02
xtrezDJones, synaptic no longer there in ubuntu ?17:02
mirantistcrHello all. I'm having an issue where there is some static in my audio. The audio part of dmesg is here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5908233/17:03
wilee-nileemirantistcr, Cool, I assume that is probably a tough problem, could be any number of variables.17:03
DJonesxtrez: Not by default, software centre is installed by default instead, but you can install synaptic17:03
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mirantistcrwilee-nilee, I would think that System 76 would have that working since they are a Linux integrator :P17:04
ekzLinXNut, basicly when i open lets say staroffice it just slows down the pc and also glitches  and lags on graphis17:04
ekzgraphics17:04
mirantistcrwilee-nilee, it's a bit frustrating :D17:04
wilee-nileemirantistcr, It would be yes, however I have never seen another with this problem, but I don't follow there threads.17:05
wilee-nileetheir*17:05
xtrezDJones, done :)17:06
ekzby the way ppl what happened to ubuntu forums? they were hacked the 20th? so bad :(17:06
Nach0zayup17:07
mirantistcrYeah. They're still down, too.17:07
gabriella#ubuntu-it17:07
ekzdoes anyone knows about ISO27000??17:08
ufkhow do i start jpda in tomcat ?17:08
joy_freyhey, support team here?17:08
wilee-nileejoy_frey, one big support family.17:08
wilee-nilee;)17:09
wilee-nileejoy_frey, There are channels for specific support some are dev.17:09
joy_freywilee-nilee,  ok ) then i need head of screen saver aplication17:10
wilee-nileejoy_frey, Not sure there it is not on stock.17:11
toss1i hab grub rescue problem in ubuntu and i formatted drive having ubuntu even window is not opening i m from live usb and it shows error filesystem grub rescue17:11
toss1plse help me17:11
ekzLinXNut,  any recomendations to disable something or to improve my linux experience???17:11
wilee-nileetoss1, This a W8 dual boot a lot more details please for the channel.17:12
joy_freywork to forum ..17:13
toss1wilee-nilee i didnt get what u mean17:13
toss1yea it is the case of win8 dual boot17:13
ekzany software were you could create a windows USB installation Disk using an iso??? under ubuntu?17:13
wilee-nileetoss1, This app is a good repair gui, however it is best to just run the bootinfo summary to post for help, this will give a lot of details. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair17:14
holsteinekz: i would ask a windows support channel, and try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html17:14
luigi69How could I setup the 0-7 bold colors to be have same colors like norm 0-7? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6419178/colortest.png17:15
wilee-nileetoss1, I have to take off for physical rehab but will be back in a couple of hours if you still need help.17:15
zAo^_Is there a way to speed up scrolling in Xorg/Gnome3? tried xinput, but no luck17:15
toss1ok buddie17:15
holsteinzAo^_: scrolling in some web browser? you could try configuring the browser scroll speed17:15
ekzok i would ask again, is there a way to create USB INSTALATION DISKs from any ISO? ...17:15
zAo^_holstein: chromium; but they removed that option!17:16
zAo^_I used to start with --scrol-pixels=40017:16
holsteinekz: let me link you again to http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html and ##windows .. or unetbootin for *any* usb stick from most linux iso's17:16
holstein!unetbootin17:16
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent17:16
ekzjust saw the link , thank you by the way ill try to use it ! buig hug !17:17
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prashant_123456when will ubuntu forums will resume to its state ?17:22
DeltaHeavyprashant_123456: They're unsure. Anyway you may be interested in this - http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1iyro6/are_the_ubuntu_forums_leaked_password_hashes_only/17:23
DeltaHeavyChange any passwords that were the same as your Ubuntu forums as they might as well have been in plain text.17:23
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prashant_123456DeltaHeavy, approx how much time will it take to resume ?17:25
savidIt appears network manager just went crazy on my system. I lost internet connectivity, and noticed a lot of inet traffic in my system monitor. I used jnettop to show what was hogging it, and something was flooding my DNS server with UDP packets on port 53. Eventually I found out it was the dnsmasq program doing it.  What would cause this to happen?17:25
savidI've since disabled network manager and went to manual configuration17:25
DJonesGues88604: Please fix your connection17:26
DeltaHeavyprashant_123456: Don't know, only got snippy responses from #ubuntuforums17:26
k1l_prashant_123456: #ubuntuforums is the right place for that topic17:26
DeltaHeavyAssuming they're willing to help you17:26
prashant_123456k1l_,  thanks17:26
savidIf my computer was spitting out tons of packets on UDP port 53, would that mean my computer is performing a DOS attack?17:29
savid(ie, it's been compromised)?17:29
DeltaHeavysavid: Probably not, port 53 is for DNS17:30
savidDeltaHeavy, hmm.  ok.17:30
awktionlol17:30
savidI'm not sure what happened then17:30
awktiondo you have dnsutils installed?17:30
awktionps fauxww|grep bind17:30
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Kunalsudo: unable to create sockets: Cannot allocate memory17:31
Kunal , what should i do?17:31
savidawktion, no17:31
k1l_Kunal: which command?17:31
awktionsavid: http://pastebin.com/gL33WGr917:31
awktionah17:31
awktionthen there must have been a flurry of lookups17:31
Kunalsudo mkdir -p /etc/vncserver17:31
awktionmany webpages have hundreds of elements, and good sites split this up amongst several cnames17:32
awktionOne thing you can do is setup bind, run it, and basically use it as your own personal dns cache17:32
savidawktion, ah, that's a great idea.17:32
awktionthen you can setup logging, and see what was looked up when17:32
streulmahello, someone familliar with grub ?17:32
awktionadd in some blocklists if your bored17:33
awktionetc17:33
awktionhf17:33
varunendra!ask | streulma17:33
ubottustreulma: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:33
wilee-nilee!details | streulma17:33
ubottustreulma: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:33
savidI will definitely do that.  Thanks!17:33
k1l_Kunal: no need for -p (but why are you making that in anyway? just installing vnc should do that on its own)17:34
streulmaI have a virtualserver runs under KVM and in grub there is root hd0;0 and /dev/vda1, when I update kernel or remove menu.lst and redo update-grub then I have /dev/hd0 as root and UUID as dev17:35
Kunalafter rebooting i have to start vcn server through ssh to log in using tightvnc17:35
dubhdaraanyone here good with ubuntu on a mac17:35
antivirtelhello, can someone answer to my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323509/lenovo-e525-lock-button-as-a-hotkey ? thanks!17:36
streulmadubhdara: yes17:36
dubhdaraah okay17:36
wilee-nilee!anyone17:36
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.17:36
wilee-nileedubhdara, streulma ^^^^^17:37
dubhdarathe install cd don't on ubnuntu 12.10 don't like the graphics on the mac g4 its the ati128 card17:38
sudobashwow it really saddens me to find Ubuntu 11/12/13 as completely unusable from Live cd / dvd on a brand new lenovo i3 with 4 GB of ddr3 as it is freezing up and becoming unresponsive every few minutes... What's happened to Ubuntu, please tell me?17:38
k1l_Kunal: does it work without -p?17:38
dubhdarais there some way i can configure graphics at the boot uping]17:38
Kunalnope17:39
DeltaHeavysudobash: Perhaps your hardware isn't fully supported. They work fine for me.17:39
zAo^_Is there no way to alter the scroll speed??17:39
awktiondubhdara:17:39
dubhdaraokay next then17:39
awktionwhenever you run into issues like that, use the alternate17:39
sudobashmaybe the WM that ubuntu has chosen sucks ass?17:39
awktionthe alternate disk typically dumps the live portion and adds in more drivers17:39
dubhdarahold on i used the min alternate17:39
sudobashif I stay in CLI it works fine :-|17:40
wilee-nileesudobash, your experience in no way represents any body else, don't lump others, or use it as a opinion which sounds like fud.17:40
dubhdarabut it just gave me a text screen when i boot up17:40
sudobashSorry, just been using ubuntu stil 6.04 and I find the newer versions to be crap17:40
dubhdarahow do i tell it at terminal that i wanna install gnome17:40
sudobashas thousands of others have as well no doubt17:40
Kunal plus when i try to run an application it says 'starting <application name>' but it doesnt starts17:40
Kunalusing vpn*17:40
CatbuntuHello hallo; if you install `xubuntu-desktop` in a normal Ubuntu 13.04, will it be slower than a normal Xubuntu installation?17:40
awktionCatbuntu: xubuntu install and xubuntu-desktop install are perported to be the same17:41
[Raiden]Catbuntu: no17:41
awktionin reality there's a few extra config bits that get done by the distro installer17:41
awktionso yes17:41
awktiondo two side by side and they will NOT be the same17:41
awktionbut very close, and i think the packages should be pretty close17:42
ekzhello could anyone tell me if linux has a mobile version???????17:42
awktionekz: yes/no17:42
awktionboth17:42
ekz¿?17:42
awktionthere are mobile versions, most are not very mature17:42
dubhdaraso what do i do about getting a graphical environment17:42
awktionfor cell phones, there's ubuntu on arm, but its not really very useful17:42
cielakhow about android?17:42
k1l_Kunal: is your server out of ram?17:42
awktiondubhdara: i'd just install that xubuntu desktop package17:42
streulmaI run Ubuntu on my Galaxy S3 :)17:43
dubhdarawould that put gnome on it17:43
k1l_Kunal: is it a virtual server?17:43
ekzhows the performance? ..17:43
ekzwhat version are you running?17:43
Kunalkinda , actualy it is a free vps i got from host1free17:43
awktionstreulma: and you run android right17:43
streulmaawktion: yes17:43
awktionthats not the same, its a /vm/chrooted linux17:43
Kunal128 mb ram :P17:43
dubhdara12.1017:43
awktionyou get into it via vlc, very crap17:43
k1l_!touch | ekz17:43
ubottuekz: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch17:43
wilee-nileeekz, You want the #ubuntu-touch channel otherwise your off topic.17:44
sudobashdubhdara, yes it will probably get you a graphicial environment17:44
awktionubuntu for arm is first party install, meaning direct hardware access and IS the os17:44
dubhdarathat is the video card17:44
dubhdaramemory17:44
k1l_Kunal: you are overpowering that vps17:44
ekzthank you very much my friend17:44
Kunalhmm..17:44
dubhdarathe mac has lots more memory chips on it17:44
dubhdaraits pretty fast17:44
Kunalso nothing can be done?17:44
k1l_Kunal: its using more ram than its got. so dont start a desktop there. that will not work17:44
awktionhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM17:44
k1l_Kunal: use ssh instead of starting a desktop and using vnc17:44
Kunalohk17:45
Kunalthx17:45
CatbuntuI know [Raiden] and awktion, but that would be having everything of Unity AND Xfce, not only Xfce, so it would be slower?17:45
CatbuntuOr there's no conflict between Unity and Xfce?17:45
yugandharHi, I need quick help. I couldn't ssh the server even it is pinging. I am getting the error while removing the openssh-server package "E: The package nginx-johndoe needs to be reinstalled"17:45
yugandharpls help me17:46
yugandharon this17:46
dubhdaraapt-get install pack name17:46
dubhdaraat a terminal prompt17:46
Piciyugandhar: why are you removing openssh-server?17:46
ekzhello streulma can you tell me how is it the performance are you running ubuntu?17:46
wizard_Ahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/126545/i-would-like-to-make-a-virtual-router-on-ubuntu-12-04: gives some errors17:47
awktionCatbuntu: they can exist side by side but it sux17:47
yugandharopenssh-server is not running on this server17:47
awktionyou'll have a lot of doubled and tripled options17:47
k1l_ekz: can we sort that into #ubuntu-touch or #ubuntu-offtopic ?17:47
awktionand no its not as fast17:47
ekzgreat thnkx17:47
wilee-nilee!help > yugandhar17:47
ubottuyugandhar, please see my private message17:47
awktionhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/292394/how-to-completely-remove-unity-and-replace-it-with-cinnamon17:47
awktionthere's one example of removing unity and putting in cinnamon17:47
awktionyou could put in the dwm of your choice17:47
CatbuntuWhat sucks awktion?17:48
k1l_Catbuntu: there is no reason for that to be slower17:48
k1l_Catbuntu: you can switch the desktops when selecting on the login screen17:48
awktionhaving xfce and /gnome/unity/kde/whatever side by side17:48
CatbuntuI know k1l_17:48
awktionthe -desktop packages are meta, so they pull in a whole env17:48
awktionlike text editor, browser, file managers, everything17:49
CatbuntuI remember having kubuntu- and xubuntu-desktop in a normal Ubuntu install a year ago or so and yes it sucked that's true.17:49
awktionyeah17:49
k1l_awktion: but things that dont get loaded because they are not needed dont slow anything down17:49
awktioni would multiboot17:49
CatbuntuBut IIRC there's something you can do in the .desktop files to make them show in just one environment.17:49
k1l_:/17:49
awktionk1l_: that just shows youve not had it done17:49
wilee-nileeawktion, Removing unity is a waste of time The cinnamon install is just a few packages they share gnome 3.17:49
awktionit does make a difference17:49
awktionwilee-nilee: ah right, was a fast link17:49
k1l_awktion: no17:49
awktionnot sure if anyone made a comprehensive list17:49
k1l_you are not right on that17:50
awktionk1l_: sorry bro but you really don't know what your talking about.17:50
Piciawktion: No it doesn't. Please stop spreading FUD17:50
awktionas evidenced by what's coming out of your irc client.17:50
reisioCatbuntu: uninstalling the other ones being the simplest way17:50
awktionits not fud Pici go do some benchmarks17:50
wilee-nileeawktion, the psychocats website has desktop lists17:50
ekzwhat would be the best basic startup configurations for ubuntu? how can i check whats running for startup and change it?17:50
awktion~_~17:50
k1l_awktion: you are talking wrong and i already explained why. so stop that17:50
reisioekz: 'service' command maybe17:50
DeltaHeavyawktion: You are wrong...17:50
awktionthere is most certainly a difference between having 2-3GB of installed packages and 4-5GB17:51
awktionthis is why there are so many minimal installs17:51
awktionBECAUSE of the differences17:51
DeltaHeavyCinnamon and Unity use a lot of the same packages.17:51
awktionnow, there's no issue having multiple window managers17:51
reisiomostly the space those package take up on the storage device, though17:51
awktionjust don't bother with the whole environments17:51
DeltaHeavyRemoving Unity from Ubuntu is going to cause you more headaches than it's worth.17:51
awktionno need for kate + gedit + mouse17:51
k1l_awktion: stuff that is not needed by xubuntu-desktop doesnt get loaded when xubuntu is booted. so stop that FUD. EOD17:51
awktionagain k1l_ the existance of those files on disk makes a difference17:52
awktionAND17:52
DeltaHeavyawktion: Files existing on a disk doesn't result in a performance hit.17:52
awktionthere are several daemons started by each DWM that are unique17:52
awktionyes17:52
awktionyes it most certainly does17:52
awktionMOST CERTIANLY17:52
Piciawktion: how?17:52
DeltaHeavyawktion: Everybody is telling you, you're wrong. Stop being so brash and stubborn.17:52
Lizards|Workhdd vs ssd he may have a point17:53
k1l_to clear that up. just having files on your hdds that are not used doesnt slow anything down.17:53
Lizards|Workbut if it's ssd it's moot17:53
DeltaHeavyOn an HDD there is a marginal, unnoticeable hit that shouldn't even be considered.17:53
Lizards|Worknot nonexistent though17:53
ekzis there a gui where you can click or unclick the services for startup???17:53
reisiothere's probably one you can get17:54
CatbuntuShould Unity 7 (in Ubuntu 13.04) work well in a computer with a Nvidia 9300M GS graphics card and 3GB of RAM?17:54
varunendraekz, Power button > Startup Applications.... in Unity on my 12.0417:54
reisioCatbuntu: most likely, you might check if the nvidia driver supports that specific model first17:54
CatbuntuWeird thing is that the sticker in the computer says it's an Intel Centrino, but if I look it up using software (even in Windows) it says Intel Core 2 Duo.17:54
dubhdara1in the tasksel17:54
CatbuntuIt's 2GHz anyway.17:54
dubhdara1it give many different17:54
dubhdara1sets17:54
CatbuntuYep it does reisio.17:54
reisioCatbuntu: well, centrino is a buzzword/branding for more than just a processor17:54
dubhdara1which should i install for the graphical enviro17:55
reisioand intel's always been awful at naming things17:55
dubhdara1you said xunbuntu - destop17:55
dubhdara1right17:55
CatbuntuOh I see.17:55
nirjhorhello17:55
nirjhorI have installed handbrake from ppa17:55
reisionirjhor: hi17:55
nirjhorbut how can I launch it from command line?17:55
reisionirjhor: dpkg -L handbrake | grep bin17:56
CatbuntuWell I'm going to try Ubuntu 13.04 again :P17:56
nirjhorhandbrake-gtk doesn't run anything17:56
reisiobut if you want commandline, install ffmpeg instead17:56
varunendraekz, but the services are hidden by default. You will have to edit relevant .desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart directory for corresponding services/applications17:56
CatbuntuSee you all later ♥17:56
reisiopeace17:56
Picinirjhor: theres a handbrake-cli binary, but you'll need to make sure that you've installed it.17:56
nirjhorreisio: thanks man17:57
niranjanHi there, I am seeing following messages duplicated every second Jul 24 10:54:42 fiport2 kernel: [2485180.682995] input: Logitech USB Optical Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/input/input4016717:58
niranjanJul 24 10:54:42 fiport2 kernel: [2485180.683239] generic-usb 0003:046D:C05A.9CE3: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:12.0-2/input017:58
nirjhorreisio: it solved the problem17:58
niranjanWhat is causing it?17:58
ekzits just like user application, how could you modify the linux startup services like the main boot, cause i think theres something slowingdown my installation17:59
Lizards|Worksuperkey -> Startup Applications18:00
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Guest57332привет18:02
tvviztidI had Lubuntu installed to a 120GB HDD. I put FreeDOS and the computer's last BIOS update onto a 1.44 Floppy and upgraded with no issue, but now I keep getting hung on the BIOS now(I've battery pulled to reset multiple times). The drive works perfectly on another machine I have here. I've tried every Master/Slave combo there is possible.  Any suggestions?18:03
tvviztidIDE HDD18:04
tvviztidI have also tried other hard drives but very rarely will they get identified.18:05
joshuikonia ping18:07
ikoniajoshu: hello18:08
Lizards|Worktvviztid, try an alternate IDE cable?18:08
tvviztidYes.18:08
reisioFloodBot1: you go girl18:09
vaurdanhey18:10
tvviztidIt is an old Gateway E-4000. They are very annoying to identify. Took me quite a while to find my correct model and search the deep ends of Google to get the last BIOS.18:10
vaurdando you know why notifications sounds on skype always sound so crancky?18:10
Lizards|Workyou're 100% you got a good flash on the BIOS?18:11
tvviztidYes. Not long after I did it I booted FreeDOS live cd/Lubuntu/ and a few other Lightweight CDs I had laying around.18:12
Lizards|Workis the hdd set to bootable in BIOS?18:12
tvviztidI even flashed it again to make sure it. When it does want to boot I have it boot from a LiveUSB of Lubuntu.18:12
tvviztidI can't access the BIOS, it hangs on startup.18:12
tvviztidI've tried having everything unplugged but the HDD and still the same.18:13
Lizards|Workit's not like it bypasses BIOS when it boots a live os18:13
toss1hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help18:14
tvviztidI'm starting to think it was just a poor brand of Gateway machines.18:14
tvviztidUse to be my father's work computer.18:14
toss1how can i remove grub and iwindows nstall loader using live ubuntu in usb18:14
toss1 hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help18:15
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tvviztidI'll just bang it around for a bit hope it works. Thanks.18:18
Lizards|Workgood luck18:18
voilahello18:19
voilaI tar one directory .. when I untar it using tar-xvf .. then it left inner direcotries tar ..18:19
voilahow do i solve it18:19
toss1hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help how  to uninstall using live usb ubuntu18:20
reisiovoila: hrmm?18:20
voilahrmm ???18:20
voilano idea about this18:20
reisiovoila: are you asking how to make a tar with a top-level directory in it, rather than just loose contents?18:20
Morgan_Freemanhttp://imgur.com/gallery/CEuO5e7  Haunted Forest?18:21
reisiopretty18:22
ikoniaMorgan_Freeman: ow is that anything to do with ubuntu ?18:22
ikoniaalthough I do agree it's pretty18:22
Morgan_Freemanmy mistake18:22
Morgan_Freeman /amsg18:22
voilareisio,  My motive is to transfer directory using scp .. I tar it and transfer ... when i untar it using tar -xvf .. then i found it untar only top level directory .. all inner level directory are still tar-ed18:22
ikoniaMorgan_Freeman: no problem18:23
reisiovoila: sounds like you tar'd it oddly in the first place18:23
reisiovoila: you don't have to tar to scp, either18:23
voilareisio, I cannot transfer folder through scp or can i ?18:24
reisiovoila: yes, with -r18:24
reisioor more reliably with rsync, or rsync+ssh if you prefer18:24
voilaokies .. let me try18:24
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nimdAHKwhere does identd insert itself so that it runs on startup?18:27
vaurdando you know why notifications sounds and login sound on skype is noisy?18:29
SuperLagI'm from Oregon, but I'm in NL for a month. Should the timezone on my system adjust automatically by the location, or do I have to change it manually? And will changing that have any side effects on the rest of the system?18:29
reisioyour PCM is too high18:29
reisioSuperLag: manually probably, yes it'll give the correct time18:29
reisioSuperLag: you could also just setup ntp, and the time will correct itself automatically and you won't have to mess with the timezone18:30
reisiobut for long stays in other timezones, may as well just change it18:30
SuperLagdone18:32
arc__hi is there any visualisation programs in ubuntu execpt virual box18:34
ikoniakvm, xen18:34
arc__what18:34
sssdhey guys, i have a problem with unity, directly after PC-Start i can't click on any Icon, with ctrl + alt + f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 helps temporarily  but i can't after this Work-Arround a can't open the Unity-Dash :(18:36
sssdNow i have try'd to use booth propritary videocard-drivers, but without changes :(18:36
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lauratikaim trying to install ubuntu on a sd card, how can i run the iso image form a pc to get it install on the card?18:37
benjamindeesis it safe to assume that NetworkManager is the program responsible for scuttling my wi-fi speed down to 1Mb, or might it be something else?18:38
Lizards|Workcould be on the router18:38
PuffTheMagicDragAnyone on?18:40
PuffTheMagicDragI'm about to install Ubuntu.18:40
reisiobenjamindees: probably something else, but you can get wifi without it and see18:40
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: neat18:40
PuffTheMagicDragCool, hi.18:40
voilaI stuck .. I want to untar all files and directory in a particular directory .. how can i do this18:40
reisio/msg alis list #ubuntu says there are 1,628 people on18:40
PuffTheMagicDragSo, question is, can I do it as an ISO with Win8 currently running?18:40
reisiovoila: -C18:41
reisiovoila: man tar18:41
PuffTheMagicDrag1) I do not want to keep Win8, I will completely rewrite it.18:41
PuffTheMagicDrag2) I do not have a CD.18:41
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: you should be able to18:41
PuffTheMagicDragThanks.18:41
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: I can't comment on any UEFI nonsense, though18:41
PuffTheMagicDragI... Don't know what that is.18:41
PuffTheMagicDragShould I?18:41
PuffTheMagicDragThis will be my first Linux.18:41
reisiothere's a chance you might want to keep Windows 8 around to manage that, or possibly not, I don't follow it18:41
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: make a live usb system and install from that18:41
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: min18:41
PuffTheMagicDragno, no need for Win8.18:41
PuffTheMagicDragWin8 is the reason I'm changing to Ubuntu.18:42
PuffTheMagicDragWin7 was one of the best OS ever.18:42
PuffTheMagicDragWin8 is like using a Vista sheen on an ME.18:42
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: maybe you need to turn off safeboot uefi stuff in the bios menu18:42
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI best I can do :p18:42
PuffTheMagicDragCrap >.<18:42
PuffTheMagicDragI'll use a memory stick...18:42
amsouravinstall it using the wubi web client18:42
reisio?18:42
PuffTheMagicDragWill I still be able to do the full install with memstick?18:42
z0ranbest os ever! come on...define best os ever, in what way18:42
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: but that is only if its enabled alreads. just give it a try18:42
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: usb stick, cd, dvd, all the same18:42
k1lamsourav: wubi :(18:43
PuffTheMagicDragamsourav, I really, really don't want to keep Win8.18:43
lauratikais it possible to install ubuntu via iso set on my pc to a usb?18:43
PuffTheMagicDragI want JUST Ubuntu. Is that what you're saying18:43
Lizards|Workwubi is lawl18:43
Lizards|Worki thought they killed wubi18:43
k1l!ot | z0ran18:43
ubottuz0ran: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:43
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: yes18:43
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: make the usb stick and give it a go18:43
predateurhello18:43
reisio'lo18:43
ananassaoh boy I haven't use IRC before18:43
PuffTheMagicDragk1l, Yeah, doing so now.18:43
PuffTheMagicDragCan i drop the ISO in ISO form on the stick? Or is there a special Stick boot version?18:44
ananassaI'm trying to follow the instructions for installing, ideally alongside Windows 7, but the disc (a DVD) will not boot on restart.18:44
Lizards|Workhttp://pendrivelinux.com18:44
ananassaSurprise surprise.18:45
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows18:45
PuffTheMagicDragWhy would you do Win7 and Ubuntu sidebyside?18:45
ananassaI get a blank screen with a blinking underscore for about a second before Windows starts.18:45
voilareisio, yes i will learn .. but really its urgent :)18:45
jmavmounting ubuntu server 12.04.2 iso file is write-protected, mounting read-only18:45
ananassaPressing seemingly any key in this time takes me to the Windows Boot Manager, with no option to boot from CD or anything, just things about Safe Mode and stuff like that. What exactly am I supposed to do?18:45
reisiovoila: well it says in the man page18:45
jmavhow to make it writable18:45
reisiovoila: tar -xpf foo.tar -C new/dir/path/here/18:46
reisiojmav: you'd have to copy it, then unsquash it, then modify it, then resquash, then re-image18:46
Lizards|Workreisio, i would have gone bar.tar18:46
reisioLizards|Work: that's sick :p18:46
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Lizards|Workbaz.tar.gz18:46
PuffTheMagicDragSo, guys, I know you suggested pendrivelinux, but I'm not really seeing it as the exact same, just on a pendrive. So... If I put the boot ISO on the thumb drive, will it read it as it would a boot disc?18:48
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: probably18:48
jmavreisio: any url with help, basic goal is to add preseed file to image or USB boot key18:48
PuffTheMagicDragAnd if worst comes to worst, you're sure I can just install Ubuntu straight from my Win8 desktop?18:48
PuffTheMagicDragAnd completely wipe Win8?18:48
predateurhello18:48
reisiojmav: there are tools to master your own images, I forget their names18:49
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: yeah, probably18:49
reisiopredateur: 'lo18:49
PuffTheMagicDragWell, guess we'll find out. Thanks, guys.18:49
PuffTheMagicDragI do appreciate the help.18:49
ananassaIs there any way to boot a CD using Windows Boot Manager? I'm not seeing it.18:49
CarlFKI need official Adobe reader to decrypt some pdf form I need to fill in - is there an archive or something, or do I have to go though adobee.com web install?18:50
jmavI tried with UCK but without luck on ubuntu server18:50
reisioCarlFK: should be in some repo18:50
reisiohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AcrobatHowTo18:51
reisioperhaps not <shrug>18:51
bazhang!info acroread partner | CarlFK18:51
ubottuCarlFK: acroread (source: acroread): Adobe Reader. In component main, is extra. Version 9.5.5-1raring1 (partner), package size 15 kB, installed size 65 kB18:51
CarlFKbazhang: thanks18:52
bazhangnp18:52
jmavOr, what is the simplest procedure to add new preseed file to iso image18:52
PuffTheMagicDragGuys, last question.18:53
PuffTheMagicDragWin8 does this weird shit I've never seen. It asks me how I want to use this, as rewriteable or not.18:53
PuffTheMagicDragSince I've never gotten that question before...18:53
PuffTheMagicDragObviously I know what rewritable is, but Win8 is scaring em.18:53
PuffTheMagicDragme*18:54
heyuxianghello, how do i know what vga driver is currently being used?18:55
ananassaPuffTheMagicDrag: Is it asking if you want to use to CD/USB/etc. as storage? It does that in Win7 too.18:55
reisioheyuxiang: sudo lspci -k | grep -i vga -A 218:56
rosco_yhow do I speed up the rate that my mouse cursor travels over the desktop?18:56
reisiorosco_y: xset m18:56
rosco_yreisio: ty, is that at the command-line?18:56
reisiorosco_y: yes, but you can have it run automatically every time X/GNOME/Unity/etc. starts18:56
heyuxiangreisio: thanks : Kernel driver in use: i91518:57
rosco_yreisio: ty, how would I have it run automatically?18:57
heyuxiangreisio: is it the best driver for my intel HD graphic?18:57
reisioheyuxiang: most likely18:58
reisiorosco_y: something here http://www.google.com/search?q=help%20ubuntu%20autostart18:58
reisioI don't use GNOME/Unity or I'd be specific :)18:58
rosco_ythank you again!18:59
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NotionworkHeyo! Anyone know if the Edge will be able to run other distos of Linux, since it can run a full Ubuntu install?19:01
compdocheh19:02
k1lNotionwork: better ask in #ubuntu-touch for that specific questions19:02
Notionworkk1l: Thanks will do!19:03
MadwillHello how can i install java 1.7 openJre on ubuntu server 8.04 if when i do "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre" i get "Package openjdk-7-jre is not available"19:03
TheUserAnyone tried yagi antennas, indoor?19:03
DJonesMadwill: Ubuntu 8.04 is no longer supported19:04
DJonesMadwill: Server support ended in May this year, so any repo's for it are likely to have been removed19:04
Madwillok but can i add one from another source or something ?19:05
OerHeksnot sure EOLupgrade trick provides openjdk 719:05
Madwilldamn19:05
OerHeks!eolupgrade19:06
DJonesMadwill: You may find a ppa or repo, but I wouldn't like to rely on it working19:06
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:06
Madwillscrew you server support provider19:06
OerHeks...19:06
Madwilli mean the companie that gives me ubuntu 8.04 only19:06
Madwilleverything's been harder because of it19:07
werxxxI need help19:07
DeltaHeavyThey sounds incompetant19:07
Lizards|Workit ships with some legacy hardware19:07
DJonesMadwill: It may well be worth pointing out to them that its end of life and no longer supported19:07
dlpenguinloverMadwill: so you're running a company issued server?19:07
Madwillpardon my english i speak french, this is a company called revolution Linux and provide server maintenances, i'm a programmer and my company employs them19:08
Madwillbut they provide shit19:08
Halite-.-19:08
IdleOneMadwill: That has nothing to do with this channel and please keep the language clean in here19:09
Madwillok sorry i'm not resonable19:09
dlpenguinloverMadwill: You should ask them about upgrading your servers to 12.04 LTS.19:09
sha512hey guys19:09
Madwilli will create a ticket19:10
sha512the question may be completely irrelevant but still i am asking19:10
sha512would ubuntu phone be available only for prebookers/donaters or would people be able to buy it after release19:11
DJones!phone | sha51219:11
histo!phone | sha51219:11
ubottusha512: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch19:11
HaliteI'm not sure if Ubuntu cannot detect Packard Bell's colour space requirements or if it is the hardware itself, but the colour profile I created in Color Settings assume the monitor output levels of green are slightly lower than all the others. This results in desirable effects sometimes - and undesirable ones other times.19:11
HaliteHow do I control or fix my problem?19:11
sha512thanks all19:11
sha512:)19:11
dacshowdy folks , i am currently running 10.10 " i know don't laugh at me :)" i did little search on how to upgrade from 10.10 to 13.04 and that yield 'do-release upgrade' command what do you guys suggest19:11
Halite~.~19:12
DJones!eolupgrade | dacs19:12
ubottudacs: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:12
Halitedo-release upgrade then. On my first try at Ubuntu I didn't know how to shutdown and had to ask for a command to shut down.19:13
bekksdacs: Thats the command to use. You have to update to 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.0419:13
bekksdacs: A clean reinstall will be much faster.19:13
Halitehe's running 10.1019:13
bekksHalite: I know.19:13
DJonesdacs: Your other option would be a fresh install of either 12.04 for LTS or 13.04 as latest19:13
Lizards|Workit'd take roughly a day to do all those updates19:13
OerHeksdacs 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 lts etc19:13
werxxxI can not connect my phone19:14
Halite~.~ well my question's gone down the drain again19:14
explodesFirst time settings up NFS to start on boot. editing /etc/fstab with "10.1.11.121:/video /stuff/media/jason-nfs/video nfs rw,hard,intr,auto,nolock 0 0"19:15
explodessudo mount -a doesn't mount the folder, dmesg tells me nothing19:15
PuffTheMagicDragHey, guys... None of the three things you suggested worked. Every time it said failed.19:15
bekksexplodes: Add "_netdev" to the mount options.19:15
dacsthank you folks for all the tips. i guess yeah it will take me a whole day to go through it step-by-step hoping that all goes smooth "which never happens at this end. i think am going to just do a fresh install.19:16
explodesbekks: Still nothing19:16
explodesla19:16
werxxxLol19:17
dacsso how would one go about backing up a system like mine. i mean pkgs ,setting and few downloads i have19:18
macrobatoh, ubuntuforums is down19:18
dacsthe whole hdd is 160GB so thats not a biggy19:18
macrobatdacs: back up /etc do you have /home on its own partition?19:18
DeltaHeavymacrobat: Change your password, the hashing algo they used is so weak they might as well have stored your passwords in plain text.19:18
dacsmacrobat: yeah, under maintenance19:18
macrobatbackups are a good thing to do :D19:19
dacsmacrobat: but google offer a great feature "chached"19:19
dacsmacrobat: thats how i got to my info19:20
dacsheheheh19:20
dacsmacrobat: no i don't have '/home on its own partition !19:21
SunStaris it possible to bind keyboard shortcuts to buttons on a game controller? (AKA why cant i use my XBOX controller as an HID?)19:21
goddardwhat is the calender applet called in unity?19:21
* dacs light bulb!!! macrobat that is not a bad idea to have /home on its own partition19:21
dacsi could 've avoid all this headache now if i had it partition separately!19:22
macrobatyes, makes maintenance easier19:22
SunStardacs, yes. at least you know from now on.19:23
trismgoddard: indicator-datetime ?19:23
dacsSunStar: lesson learned19:23
dacswhich tool should i use to backup19:24
macrobathow much is recommended for a root partition these days? more than 30G?19:24
SunStar^^ especially when you dont know how the box will be used19:25
jpdsmacrobat: /     6.3G    3.7G  2.4G   61% /19:25
k1lmacrobat: / without /home is 10-20GB for a regular desktop19:25
jpdsmacrobat: Though I have /var on a separate partition using 2GB.19:25
macrobatoh, not more. good19:25
Lizards|Workcan be less if you're running a headless server19:25
k1lmacrobat: depends on how much you install etc. etc. you can get under 5GB if yuo want, but if you have plenty of space go with something from 10-2019:26
SunStari was told not to put var on its own drive (dont know why beyond messing with grep)19:26
ihre./dev/mapper/vg00-root 9.9G 2.0G 7.4G 22% -> headless19:26
raubSunStar: what I found out is that if you put var on its own partition at install time you are ok. Changing it later may be exciting19:27
dacsis there a guide on how to setup these partition properly19:28
SunStarfirst time i tried out ubuntu i maxed out my 24GB root partition cuz i had a bit too much fun with software center)19:28
ihredacs, manual partitioning, or using the Ubuntu installer?19:28
dacscool , thank you ihre19:29
dacsi never thought that 10.10 doesn't have backup on it19:29
dacs;)19:29
dacsin 12.10 i just type backup and pooff there it is19:29
ihrelol dacs I havent helped you in any way I believe19:30
ihreI was asking if you need a guide on manual partitioning (fdisk/parted/w/e) or using the Ubuntu installer ?19:30
werxxxTell me about it19:31
dacsihre: heheheh , manual partition guide will be good19:31
Lunar_Landerhi, is it OK to ask a question about the forum getting hacked here?19:31
Lunar_LanderI just read the e-mail19:31
DJonesLunar_Lander: I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuforums19:31
Lunar_Landerah thanks!19:32
SunStardacs,  20GB "/", SWAP that is big enough to fit all the data getting dumped from ur RAM when going to sleep, and the rest to /home19:32
Lizards|Workswap should be 2x RAM19:32
SunStarwell i never have a swap partition unless its a low end box19:33
goddardtrism: is it?19:33
ranticLizards|Work: Maybe in 2002, I'm not prepared to have 32gb of swap :p19:33
[Raiden])19:33
goddardtrism: i have the clock in the right hand corner but not calender when i click it19:33
reisiothese days swap should lean more towards equivalent to ram19:33
dacsbackup - how?19:34
Lizards|Workrantic, why not, i do =p19:34
reisiodacs: I like rdiff-backup19:34
ranticIt just seems like overkill, it made sense 5-7 years back.19:34
werxxxHow to use swap19:34
Lizards|Workprolly get away with 1.5x RAM19:34
SunStardoont19:34
reisiorantic: long time ago19:34
masterkiller2000i just set up ubuntu on my 64 bit laptop on i get a error say that ubuntu is unable to find a medium containing live file system. how do I fix this?19:34
reisiowerxxx: as an end user you don't have to do much, the OS uses it19:34
ranticThis is of course a completely subjective opinion and would change entirely on someones usage, I'm talking about the average user.19:34
SunStarthe best way to use SWAP is not to use it19:34
reisiorantic: well, not completely19:35
ranticreisio: Oh?19:35
wilee-nileewerxxx, The OS uses swap you can make a swap in an install or with a partitioner, and you can control the swappiness.19:35
werxxxThx19:35
trismgoddard: can I see a screenshot?19:36
reisioUbuntu will install with swap setup by default19:36
Lizards|Work^^^ i don't think wubi installs did19:36
ranticman I would love the hud with fluxbox or openbox..19:36
reisioLizards|Work: thinking is overrated19:36
trismgoddard: although in the options there is an option to disable the calendar, have you checked that?19:36
wilee-nileeLizards|Work, Swap can be a casper-rw file rather that normal, not sure on a wubi though.19:37
wilee-nileethan*19:37
goddardtrism: ya thats all it was i unchecked it for some reason19:38
ihredacs, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19350.html is actually a pretty good write up on basic fdisk partitioning19:39
varunendrawilee-nilee, swap can be casper-rw file? Didn't get it. AFAIK, casper-rw stores changes while swap is volatile.19:40
dacsihre: thank you , could you please point me to a good backup solution19:40
wilee-nileevarunendra, You can have a file that even exspands per need.19:41
dlpenguinloverDoes anyone here have any experience with bazaar repos??19:41
ihrewell, I'm using BackupPC at home, for multiple hosts like my nas, desktop, router & whatnot19:41
mmercerhas anyone else had issues getting ls --color=auto working on ubuntu server-12.0419:41
Picidlpenguinlover: Your question would likely be more on-topic for #bzr19:41
mmerceri can run byobu (which I am), and even the curses is all in color, but ls --color=auto does *not* output color.  current TERM is set to screen (as is default for byobu)... using iterm2 on osx (which is fully compliant with all the normal term profiles)19:42
mmercerubuntu is the only os i have this issue with, and its downright aggrevating19:42
dlpenguinloverPici: okay thank you :)19:42
Radianthey guys19:43
wilee-nileevarunendra, It may not be called a casper-rw as a internal, I think it is though, but I have used this for fun. http://pqxx.org/development/swapspace/19:43
Radiantdoes anyone know how to set up laptop for runninig Dota 2 on Steam?19:43
varunendrawilee-nilee, taking a look...19:43
chunkyheadwhile setting up port forwarding for ssh what should be the local ip add??19:43
Radianti installed bumblebee,p rimus and nvidia experimental drivers19:44
Radiantbut it still doensn't work well19:44
Kitt3nI don't know if this is the proper place for asking this, but when I try to run Half-Life 2 with AMD (from amd.com) drivers this happens after a few minutes http://79.160.126.77/stupid.jpg http://79.160.126.77/stupid2.jpg19:44
ihredacs, you could have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/backup-shellscripts.html, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC19:44
werxxxLol19:45
wilee-nileevarunendra, On a live cd with persistence it is a file, and I have made casper-rw partitions on a usb to exceed the 4 gig limit as well, but you know all this already I suspect. ;)19:45
Kitt3nRadiant, Linux and Nvidia doesn't mix well, as far as I know. What doesn't "work well"?19:45
bekksKitt3n: Linux and Nvidia works perfect here for about 10 years now.19:45
werxxxOther video cards19:46
checoimgHi everyone19:46
Kitt3nbekks, it tends to work great when it first starts to work, yah19:46
werxxxHello19:46
wilee-nileevarunendra, File may not be the technical syntax though, lol, not sure the actual.19:46
varunendrawilee-nilee, I have an 8gb flash drive with that kind of setup (700 MB FAT32 for LIVE, 4+GB ext3 for casper-rw, rest NTFS) ;)19:47
checoimgI have some duplicates in the repositories when I do apt-get update19:47
bekksKitt3n: You are the first one I met who isnt happy with Nvidia and Linux.19:47
bekkschecoimg: Then remove the duplicates from your sources.19:47
wilee-nileevarunendra, Somnds like what I have done as well.19:47
thiebaudechecoimg, did you check your software sources?19:47
wilee-nileeSounds*19:47
checoimgYes I don;t see duplicates just the UBuntu SDK team19:48
varunendraYeahRight, cuz that 4gb limit sucks ;)19:48
checoimgAnd UBUntu edgers something19:48
checoimgQt5 Edgers19:48
skulltipI want to create a simple 2d game and distribute the binary/data, with little emphasis on the source if at all. what is recommended, freebasic? gambas3? python? SDL or sfml? What i want is for example an arch linux user to pick up the tar.gz unzip and play it. Or a .deb would be ok, gambas3 can create .deb files.19:48
varunendraYeahRight, sorry, didn't mean to call you ;)19:48
wilee-nileechecoimg, Look in etc/apt/sources.list.d for ppa's19:49
MonkeyDustskulltip  what distro are you in now?19:49
dacsihre: well since my 10.10 is EOL i can't download any pkg from repo so i will copy my files manually19:49
skulltip12.0419:49
wilee-nileedacs, You see the eol info from the bot yest?19:50
wilee-nileeyet*19:50
ihredacs, with that script your release shouldnt matter19:50
ghabitHello. After installing ubuntu bootup logo looks stretched. How to fix it?19:52
brontosaurusrexskulltip, why not some html5/canvas stuff?19:52
werxxxLinux it is free os or trial19:53
Fly-Man-Morning fellow Ubuntu people19:53
werxxxPayment19:53
MonkeyDustskulltip  there's the channel ##Indie-Games, but it has only 10 people in it19:53
chunkyheadwerxxx, os trial19:53
Fly-Man-Can anyone point me to a good solution why I am getting a destination not responding explanation ?19:53
skulltipbrontosaurusrex - kind of want to stay around linux19:53
skulltipty MonkeyDust19:53
werxxxChukyhead oh my god19:54
checoimgI don't see duplicates there, HOw is it telling me that there is  ?19:55
bassmasta420can anyone help me out with an sftp and chroot problem?19:56
bekksbassmasta420: That would require you to tell us about the actual problem.19:56
bassmasta420I posted a question on ask ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/324039/chroot-sftp-not-able-to-login19:56
DJoneswerxxx: Pretty much most versions of Linux operating systems are free19:56
dacsihre: now all what i want is a list off all installed pkgs19:57
checoimgW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-security/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-security_main_binary-amd64_Packages)19:57
bassmasta420since I added a ChrootDirectory command to my sshd_config I can't login anymore19:58
ihredacs, dpkg -l, dpkg --get-selections19:58
bekkschecoimg: Well, then remove the duplicate from your sources.19:58
werxxxOk I go to work. Good bie everyone. Peace19:58
checoimgBye19:59
werxxxLol19:59
HaliteI'm not sure if Ubuntu cannot detect Packard Bell's colour space requirements or if it is the hardware itself, but the colour profile I created in Color Settings assume the monitor output levels of green are slightly lower than all the others. This results in desirable effects sometimes - and undesirable ones other times. How do I control or fix my problem?20:05
reisioHalite: what's the problem by default?20:05
Halitereisio, I'm not entirely sure20:05
reisio...20:06
reisioHalite: what's the problem as you perceive it by default?20:06
Haliteoh....20:06
Halitereisio, dark greys appear a slight green tint.20:06
reisioand it's not just the monitor?20:06
HaliteTo be honest it is only just noticable20:06
Haliteit is not the monitor20:07
reisiohow do you know?20:07
HaliteI went into Color Settings, checked colour profile, and the TRC was different for the green graph.20:07
reisioso you haven't tried a different monitor20:08
HaliteI'm on a laptop, cmon guys!20:08
wilee-nileeHalite, Hold on let me get my Karnac hat.20:08
HaliteI'm running a Packard Bell Dot S20:09
wilee-nileehmm I sense a disturbance in the force20:09
HaliteI dualboot Windows (the first OS) with Ubuntu (secondary) and the TRC's defects have recently spread into Windows!20:10
reisioHalite: you keep saying that as if it matters :)20:10
Lizards|Work...20:10
Lizards|WorkHalite, if it's happening regardless of OS, it's hardware20:10
reisiocan you try another monitor?20:10
Haliteunless the OS's setting spreads20:10
reisioso your first suspicion is magic? :)20:11
HaliteI doubt it is hardware20:11
Halitenope20:11
Lizards|Workdo you have an external monitoy20:11
Lizards|Works/oy/yo20:11
Halitemy first suspicion is TRC and Ubuntu's greed to override the correct setting Windows had. (Which is strange because it is usually the other way round.)20:11
Lizards|Workuh20:12
Lizards|Workno20:12
MonkeyDustHalite  windows settings have nothing to do with ubuntu settings, unless it's wubi20:12
reisioor hardware :p20:12
SunStarHalite, adjust the color profile, try loading a different color profile and check your driver's control panel to see what adjustments can be made there20:12
HaliteMonkeyDust, surprise! It is wubi!20:12
Halitereisio, not hardware :p20:13
reisioHalite: yet to be determined :p20:13
MonkeyDustHalite  wubi is not a real installation, better get rid of it20:13
HaliteSunStar, Ubuntu won't let me whatever I install20:13
HaliteMonkeyDust, don't make me kick you in the chickens20:13
MonkeyDustHalite  try to behave, please20:13
Haliteok20:13
Haliteops:20:13
ikoniaHalite: ?20:14
Lizards|WorkHalite, can you boot a live distro and verify it's the hardware please20:14
HaliteMonkeyDust, I'm behaving. I'm ill. I'm annoyed.20:14
HaliteDON'T20:14
HaliteMAKE20:14
HaliteME20:14
HaliteBURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRST20:14
FloodBot1Halite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:14
MonkeyDustHalite  wubi is a windows application, hence the issue lies with windows20:14
Lizards|Workor use an external monitor and verify it's the hardware20:14
ikoniaand now you're muted, lets get back to normal service20:14
Lizards|Workoh chanserv, never change20:14
MonkeyDustHalite  what Lizards|Work suggests, try a live cd or usb20:15
SunStarwhen and where would that kind of behavior ever be tolerated / acceptable?20:15
Radianthey guys20:15
Radiantdoes anyone know how to set up laptop for runninig Dota 2 on Steam?20:15
Radianti installed bumblebee, primus and nvidia experimental drivers20:15
Radiantbut it still doensn't work well20:15
Lizards|Workbuy a macbook pro20:16
reisioheh20:16
Radiantmax resolution is 1024x768 and the framerate is pretty bad20:16
Halite~.~20:16
Radiantnah, it works well on windows20:16
Halitelet me finish20:16
kalenhelp question: Pulseaudio/Alsa: I just started getting some pops in my audio in Mint 15. I've tried reinstalling Alsa and Pulse, and I just noticed that when i use alsamixer, I can turn down some of the settings, but after a minute or two there is a pop and the levels are all reset to the defaults20:17
reisiosounds like a bug20:17
wilee-nilee!mint | kalen20:17
ubottukalen: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:17
* reisio suspects pulse20:17
kalenaw20:18
kalenI figured there were more knowledgeable people in here20:18
Lizards|Workheh20:18
Lizards|Worki had that problem on my old pc, but this new beast has no such issues20:18
kalenI just replaced the motherboard, but it's been in for at least a week, and this issue just started yesterday20:19
wilee-nileekalen, we done be only knowing the chaneeel rules.20:19
kalenplus no issue in Windows20:19
dtcrshrkalen: i had this issue on lmde, im using jack20:19
dtcrshrpulse and alsa get me crappy sound20:20
dtcrshrgive jack a try20:20
kalenwilee-nilee: let's say it's ubuntu 13.04?20:20
dtcrshrjack and pulse-jack solves mostly of the routing and them20:20
MonkeyDustkalen  are you using mint? if yes, that's not supported here20:20
kalenMonkeyDust: ok thanks20:20
kalendtcrshr: interesting I haven't tried it yet, thanks for the tip20:20
skulltipshould i bother writing the game using GTK or QT as a GUI, or other?20:21
dacsihre: got everything thank you for all the help20:21
skulltipi know there is some division with Unity and gnome20:21
dtcrshrkalen: jack is a pretty much advanced audio system. take that in mind when you begin trying it. If you have some dificulties please ask us on #jack20:22
kalendtcrshr: will do20:22
ihredacs, no problem !20:22
dacsihre: one last question if i may, can i install from online20:22
ihredacs, install what from online?20:23
dacsthat is installing 13.04 streaming from online20:23
ihreyou mean on a remote host ?20:23
macrobatinstall from online? streaming?20:23
PuffTheMagicDragNeed help. Trying to install Ubuntu on my Windows 8 (in place of, preferably). Using USB, CD, or booting ISO from desktop, it says that boot failed. That's the whole message, boot failed. Help?20:23
wilee-nilee!uefi | PuffTheMagic20:23
ubottuPuffTheMagic: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:24
PuffTheMagicDragI did.20:24
dacswhat is the right phrase... i don't want to download and install from cd. i am asking if there is a way that i can install 13.04 direct from the web20:24
PuffTheMagicDragHave anything helpful?20:24
PuffTheMagicDragI already disabled the Secureboot. That was the first thing I did.20:24
wilee-nileePuffTheMagicDrag, You can't run a wubi from W8, if that is your goal here.20:24
ihredacs, yea, use the minimal iso. it pulls everything you want from the web20:24
Lizards|Workhe's playing coy about UEFI and needing to disable it20:24
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227563/dual-boot-win-8-fail-to-boot-ubuntu20:24
kalenPuffTheMagicDrag: Make sure you are booting the USB/DVD/etc in EFI mode20:25
Lizards|Works/it/secure boot20:25
dacsihre: but that means i will have to burn a cd/usb and boot from it20:25
macrobatcds are cheap20:25
Lizards|Workafaik there is no 'web installer'20:25
PuffTheMagicDragWhat is EFI mode? I'm just doing this how the directions say....20:25
wilee-nilee!attitude | PuffTheMagic20:25
ubottuPuffTheMagic: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines20:25
dacsnot that i am just laxy20:25
ihredacs, you manually configure the packages you'd like to install with the minimal iso & yeah you would have to make a bootable iso/cd20:25
PuffTheMagicDragwilee-nilee, ubottu, thank you, you have certainly shown me the error of my ways in asking questions.20:26
wilee-nileePuffTheMagicDrag, WE cannot read your mind kill the drama.20:26
PuffTheMagicDragIs there another #ubuntu on a different server? I'd be happy to spare you further "drama".20:26
ihrebut youre planning to update from 10.10 to 13.04, dacs?20:26
ashipaHello20:26
dacsihre: no i decided to do a fresh install20:26
wilee-nileePuffTheMagic, And I'm happy to ignore you.20:26
bassmasta420I need help setting up a chroot directory for sftp users.. can anyone help?20:27
Lizards|WorkPuffTheMagicDrag, http://google.com#how+to+boot+EFI20:27
ihredacs, you dont have any usb sticks around? 64mb would be enough for the minimal iso20:28
PuffTheMagicDragAh, I see what EFI is. I'm not looking to partition.20:28
PuffTheMagicDragI don't want Windows 8 at all.20:28
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: efi is the new bios.20:28
ArkhanaHello everybody! I just got the message: etc/default/plptools Access Denied20:28
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: right, the question is merely whether you will run into trouble if you fully remove Windows 820:28
ArkhanaBut I was root!20:28
reisiowell, UEFI is the new version of EFI, which will probably also fail :p20:29
dacsihre: that is cool , i am downloading the iso now and will burn it to a cd , it is just that i was working a night shift and i am tired ...i will head to bed and will continue tomorrow20:29
PuffTheMagicDragI was in UEFI. Did everything I was supposed to.20:29
k1lPuffTheMagicDrag: with secureboot etc. so you might want to take a look at it. what about the link i gave you. did you take a look at it?20:29
dacsgood night and i will update you later with the result20:29
ihregood luck dacs20:29
dacsagain thank you for all your help and thank you everyone that helped me today20:29
PuffTheMagicDragyes, I was in the UEFI, as per your reference the first time, thank you. Disabled secureboot and everythign else I was supposed to.20:29
ArkhanaK1l: in fact, its UEFI and not EFI20:29
dacsyou guys always ROCK!!!!20:30
PuffTheMagicDragUnfortunately, I don't have a specific error message, it's just telling me it failed.20:30
ArkhanaBut that doesn't matter :D20:30
PuffTheMagicDragHere's the exact message: <The selected boot device failed. Press enter to continue.> That's after all the EUFI stuff is disabled.20:30
Lizards|Worknone of that matters, what matters is our plan20:30
ArkhanaIndeed20:31
ArkhanaActually kinda weird that a system that's over 30 years had been kicked away20:33
Lizards|Workage does not imply value20:33
LuckySMacki am trying to upgrade an ubuntu 12.10 server to 13.04 using the command 'do-release-upgrade' but I get this error: http://pastebin.com/DjMLdZvC20:34
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PuffTheMagicDragIs there no way to simply format my entire computer, and install Ubuntu?20:34
ArkhanaI agree, but it's been used so very loooooooong20:34
PuffTheMagicDragI really have 0 interest in this Windows Hate.20:34
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: sounds like your having difficulty with booting, not installation per se :)20:34
reisiolike you're*20:34
PuffTheMagicDragQuite possibly.20:35
reisiohaven't really been paying attention, what happened again?20:35
Lizards|WorkPuffTheMagicDrag, create a bootable installation media, disable secureboot, boot the installation media, pew pew pew pew20:35
kalenpew pew20:35
PuffTheMagicDragLizards|Work, did that when you guys suggested it. Now that all that is done, it gives me this: <The selected boot device failed. Press enter to continue.>20:35
PuffTheMagicDragThat's it. No more information that that.20:36
Lizards|Workis the device bootable?20:36
Lizards|Workthe cd/usb?20:36
PuffTheMagicDragYes, both.20:36
PuffTheMagicDragAnd I've tried both.20:36
ravenxubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" - how to solve that?20:36
ArkhanaPuff: Why don't disable Secure boot?20:36
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: what's the boot device?20:37
PuffTheMagicDragArkhana, I swear, I promise to you, as I have said, it is disabled. It doesn't get any more disabled. It SAYS it's disabled, at least, now that I've disabled it.20:37
Lizards|Workhave you verified that the device is indeed bootable?20:38
reisio...20:38
PuffTheMagicDragreisio, I've tried both CD and USB. Also, from the desktop. Lizards|Work, I figured I couldn't have done it wrong more than twice...20:38
PuffTheMagicDragBut I might have??20:38
PuffTheMagicDragI've never done this.20:38
PuffTheMagicDragHow do I check?20:38
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: k, you probably have to go into the UEFI stuff and tweak your boot prefs, then20:38
Lizards|Workboot from it on another system20:38
Lizards|Workor in a virtual machine20:38
PuffTheMagicDragIf I boot from it on a different laptop, can I cancel out before it does anything important?20:39
Lizards|Workyes20:39
Lizards|Workalways20:39
PuffTheMagicDragCool... Good idea. Will try, thank you.20:39
chunkyheadim unable to configure my machine for a successful ssh connection. please help20:39
isaacbwwhen running hwinfo --framebuffer I get a dbus error like "hal.1: read hal dataprocess 4050: arguments to dbus_move_error() were incorrect" is that a bug?20:40
mmahello everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu server 12.04. Whenever I boot it up it tells me that there are 5 packages can be updated, 2 of them are security updates, but when I "apt-get upgrade" I get "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded."20:40
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ubuntivityhello everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu server 12.04. Whenever I boot it up it tells me that there are 5 packages can be updated, 2 of them are security updates, but when I "apt-get upgrade" I get "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded."20:40
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PuffTheMagicDrag...20:40
DJones!repeat | ubuntivity20:40
ubottuubuntivity: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:40
ubuntivitySorry DJones, client problem!20:41
macrobatraven: could you go a bit more into detail?20:41
macrobatchunkyhead: more detail, please20:41
Lizards|Workubuntivity, did you try sudo apt-get upgrade?20:41
ubuntivityyes I tried it. I get a message telling me that two packages have been kept back20:42
ArkhanaUbuntivity: Did you brutely power-off your PC at the latest update?20:42
caersithubuntuvity: try apt-get dist-upgrade20:42
chunkyheadmacrobat,  i ssh onto grex basically to test my own ssh connection. i so ssh username@ipadd, it says connection timed out. i've port forwarded port 22 to localip i got from ifconfig20:42
wilee-nileeubuntivity, Probably a kernel run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:42
DJonesubuntivity: I had the same issue on 12.04 server, I had to use dist-upgrade to get the updates which were kernel updates20:42
zykotic10caersith: +1 for ubuntivity reply20:42
ubuntivityI don't usually do that Arkhana, but I might got a power-off (not sure though)20:42
ravenmacrobat, i load a thightvnc session on a remote xubuntu machine and get that error20:42
trismisaacbw: bug 77554220:43
ubottubug 775542 in hwinfo (Ubuntu) "dbus error message running hwinfo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77554220:43
ihreubuntivity, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/6920:43
ubuntivityWon't that upgrade the entire distro??20:43
ArkhanaUbuntivity: That messed up my updates one time20:43
zykotic10!dist-upgrade > ubuntivity20:43
ubottuubuntivity, please see my private message20:43
ArkhanaI meant about poweroff20:43
k1ldist-upgrade will not make it from 12.04 to 12.1020:43
macrobatLuckySMack: maybe this helps? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/117824520:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1178245 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "missed python-apt dependency" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:44
axgbhi20:44
zykotic10ubuntivity: dist-upgrade is the same as full-upgrade (in aptitude)20:44
axgbHow to I install Ubuntu Tablet Edition on my samsung tablet?20:44
macrobatI don't know vnc :D20:44
DJones!tablet | axgb20:44
ubottuaxgb: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch20:44
ubuntivityand what is the way to update the entire distro release in apt-get??20:44
zykotic10!upgrade | ubuntivity20:44
ubottuubuntivity: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade20:44
k1lubuntivity: its do-release-upgrade not apt-get20:45
BluesKajubuntivity, update as in ?20:45
isaacbwyea, damn, looks like a dependency issue20:45
isaacbwinstalling hal by hand fixed the error20:45
axgbCan I just install it on my tablet?20:45
ubuntivityAre you assuring me that dist-upgrade WON'T upgrade my distro?20:45
caersithubuntivity: apt-get dist-upgrade -s to simulate the upgrade20:45
LuckySMackanyone know how I can fix this trying to update my server? http://pastebin.com/DjMLdZvC20:45
ubuntivityGood advice caersith :)20:45
DJonesaxgb: See ubottu's info, please ask in #ubuntu-touch20:45
k1lubuntivity: please read the bots messages if you dont believe us20:45
wilee-nileeaxgb, There is no tablet version, do you mean ubuntu-touch?20:45
axgbok20:45
caersithnp20:45
ArkhanaUbuntivity: Why not upgrading?20:46
ubuntivityI believe you, but I don't believe the bots :P20:46
macrobatLuckySMack: did you check the link I gave you? :D20:46
ubuntivityArkhana: I want to remain on the LTS version20:46
BluesKajubuntivity, dist-upgrade upgrades installed packages and kernels, not the release20:46
axgbyes, its on the ubuntu website20:46
LuckySMackmacrobat: ah didnt see it. looking. thanks.20:47
ubuntivityso what is different between "dist-upgrade" and "upgrade"20:47
ArkhanaMkay20:47
Dr_willisdist  upgrade is more intensive20:47
ubuntivity* what is the difference between "dist-upgrade" and "upgrade"?20:48
chunkyheadmacrobat, ?20:48
maslowbeerhello. I broke my 13.04 on my laptop when trying to install gnome - mostly purged and got everything working again, but it's not detecting the second display DPMI settings. Is there a way to force a model number for the second display so I can get a decent resolution?20:48
macrobatchunkyhead: sorry, maybe someone else knows better20:48
chunkyheadguys help. i ssh onto grex basically to test my own ssh connection. i so ssh username@ipadd, it says connection timed out. i've port forwarded port 22 to localip i got from ifconfig.20:49
DJonesubuntivity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade20:49
ArkhanaChunkyhead: don't know too. Why not trying the iRC channel about SSH?20:49
ubuntivityThanks DJones20:49
chunkyheadArkhana, no one online lol20:50
LuckySMackmacrobat: yea figures. it doesnt look like theres a way around it yet. not that I see at least.20:51
ikoniachunkyhead: are you trying to ssh to an ipad ?20:51
axgbIs ubuntu touch this? http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet20:51
chunkyheadikonia, pc with ubuntu20:51
ArkhanaChunlyhead: What's your SSH prog?20:51
macrobatLuckySMack: and if you install python-apt?20:51
ikoniachunkyhead: so have you tested the ssh connection locally20:51
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chunkyheadikonia, how do i do that20:51
ikoniachunkyhead: it sounds like your port forwarding is just wrong20:51
ikoniachunkyhead: connect to the ubuntu machine on the local lan, and/or then do "ssh localhost" and see if it responds20:52
pkkmdoes Ubuntu 13.04 have SELinux enabled by default?20:52
ikoniapkkm: no20:52
pkkmikonia: thanks.20:52
chunkyheadikonia, i dont have another local machine20:52
ikoniapkkm: it uses apparmor20:52
Lizards|WorkSELinux20:52
ikoniachunkyhead: ok, then plug a monitor into the machine and do "ssh localhost" to confirm it's listening20:52
ArkhanaChunkyhead: Seems you got help in the end :D20:52
Lizards|Workevery time SELinux is said, a kitten goes through a meatgrinder20:52
reisionasty20:53
chunkyheadikonia, operating on another log in tty should work?20:53
ikoniachunkyhead: just use the one your using now20:53
ikoniachunkyhead: just do "ssh localhost" in a terminal20:53
wilee-nileeLizards|Work, congrats you continues off topic comments get an ignore20:53
chunkyheadikonia, connection refused20:54
ikoniachunkyhead: ok, so sshd is not running20:54
LuckySMackmacrobat: python-apt is already installed. looking online i may have found a fix. trying it.20:54
ikoniachunkyhead: that is the first problem to resolve20:54
Lizards|Workwas that even english?20:54
ikoniaLizards|Work: lets just keep to ubuntu support please20:54
Lizards|Worknoted20:54
ikoniawithout the additional coments (please)20:54
ikoniathanks20:54
ArkhanaLizardsWork: I have always thought: What if a squirrel can't come out a tree fast enough and gets killed by a tree shredder20:55
ArkhanaI guess you mean that20:55
ikoniaI suspect we drop that example now please.20:55
ArkhanaSounds like a very good idea20:56
LuckySMackok I think I got it working.20:56
ubuntivityGuys, can I play audio files on Ubuntu Server?20:56
Dr_willisubuntivity,  if you got speakers.. sure.20:57
PessimistCan someone help me resolve a problem with these broken packages? http://pastebin.com/TMXnKj8A20:57
ubuntivityHow, Dr_willis ?20:57
Dr_willisubuntivity,  theres numerous console based audio player apps in the repos20:57
ArkhanaMp3blaster20:57
Dr_willis!info mpg12320:57
ArkhanaJust an example20:57
ubottumpg123 (source: mpg123): MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.14.4-1 (raring), package size 113 kB, installed size 333 kB20:57
ikoniaPessimist: looks like you've got some unstable/ppa's setup20:58
rypervenchePessimist: PPAs do not play well with Ubuntu.20:58
ihrencmpcpp + mpd = command line music <320:58
ikoniaPPA's can work just fine20:58
ikoniait depends on who is maintaining them20:58
rypervencheExactly ~_^20:58
Pessimistikonia, rypervenche, yep I had some PPAs but I've removed them. Just need to fix this issue20:58
ikoniaPessimist: you'll have to undo everything they have installed20:58
ubuntivityshould aplay work, too?20:58
rypervenchePessimist: How did you remove them?20:58
Dr_willis!ppa-purge20:58
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html20:58
ArkhanaIhre: that's <3 for sure20:58
Dr_willisubuntivity,  try it and see.20:59
chunkyheadikonia, got the portforwarding fixed. still cant use ssh from grex to my computer20:59
ikoniaPessimist: removing the repo won't do it, you need to undo everything they have installed, including dependencies20:59
Dr_willis!info aplay20:59
ubottuPackage aplay does not exist in raring20:59
Dr_willis!find aplay20:59
ikoniachunkyhead: can you do "ssh localhost" on the ssh server ?20:59
ubottuFound: alsaplayer-alsa, alsaplayer-common, alsaplayer-daemon, alsaplayer-esd, alsaplayer-gtk, alsaplayer-jack, alsaplayer-nas, alsaplayer-oss, alsaplayer-text, alsaplayer-xosd (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=aplay&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all20:59
chunkyheadi should be running "ssh username@ip" right? ikonia20:59
chunkyheadikonia, yeah20:59
ikoniachunkyhead: ok that's not portwarding20:59
ikoniachunkyhead: that's just making sure the daemon is listening20:59
Lizards|Workssh -l user host20:59
StArcherHi All, I have a quick question about nautilus and dconf, can anyone help/point me in the right direction?20:59
ikoniachunkyhead: so from the client you can do "ssh username@ipaddres"20:59
Pessimistikonia, rypervenche, so I basically should enable them again and use ppa-purge on them?21:00
ubuntivityI'll try mpg123 and see21:00
rypervenchePessimist: Yes, that would be the best way.21:00
chunkyheadikonia, oh my bad. i thought that was port forwarding. anyways ssh username@ip gives me connection timed out from client21:01
trismStArcher: what is the question?21:01
Lizards|Workping host21:01
chunkyheadLizards|Work, ping works fine21:02
Dr_williscan you ssh to localhost on the remote server? (ssh to itself?)21:03
PuffTheMagicDragLizards|Work, you nailed it. The answer was indeed that simple. I checked on a third device, it was not bootable, downloaded a different program to make a bootable one from. Thank you! Also, reisio, thank you, k1l, thank you,21:03
PuffTheMagicDragSorry I'm so computer ignorant ;)21:03
Lizards|Workgrats PuffTheMagicDrag21:03
Lizards|Workno worries, it's happened to us all at least once21:03
PuffTheMagicDragWell, hold off on the grats. It's installing now, but I'm sure I can break it somehow.21:03
chunkyheadDr_willis, ikonia http://screencloud.net/v/1saI21:04
PuffTheMagicDragI'll likely be asking you guys again in just a few minutes...21:04
PuffTheMagicDragActually, Lizards|Work, I have another question already. Does this mean Windows Hate is gone forever? Have I wiped it? If not, how DO I wipe it completely?21:04
Lizards|Workif you're using the entire volume, it's being overwritten21:04
Dr_willischunkyhead,  a simple 'yes i can ssh to local host' works..  would have been sufficient.21:04
Dr_willischunkyhead,  if pc1 can ping pc2 but not ssh to it.. and pc2 is running ssh (local host ssh test worked)  then that points to a firewall issue. or other network blockages21:05
chunkyheadyes i can ssh to localhost :P i said that earlier, i assumed u had seen and wanted screenie21:05
chunkyheadDr_willis, ^21:05
PuffTheMagicDragHow do I tell it to use the entire volume?21:05
PuffTheMagicDragAs of yet, I haven't seen any such thing.21:06
Lizards|Worki'm not fluent with the 13.04 installer21:06
chunkyheadDr_willis, any suggestions on how to detect those blockades21:06
PuffTheMagicDragSo it will be in the installer somewhere? I didn't miss it already?21:06
chunkyheadPuffTheMagicDrag, u just remove every partition there21:06
Lizards|Workit should ask where you want it installed or what kind of installation you want it to be21:06
PuffTheMagicDragchunkyhead, is that something I can do after installation?21:06
PuffTheMagicDragNevermind, they made it stupid-friendly ;)21:07
PuffTheMagicDragI got this... CLICK :D21:07
chunkyheadthat's something to do during installation PuffTheMagicDrag21:07
syn-ackYou know, I miss the days of fdisk, sometimes.21:07
reisioPuffTheMagicDrag: gj21:07
chunkyheaduse gparted for after installation PuffTheMagicDrag21:07
syn-ackJust an observation.21:07
PuffTheMagicDragBye bye, Windows 8 :D21:08
PuffTheMagicDragNever again shall Bill Gates extend his insidious control over me...21:08
PuffTheMagicDragMuahahahah!!!21:08
reisio:p21:08
syn-ackPuffTheMagicDrag: Sure he will. You'll need skype and MSCoreFonts. :D21:09
ihrechunkyhead, check if your remote host blocks port 22 in the firewall, with something like sudo iptables -nL | grep 22 in a terminal, or run a portscan with nmap -Pn <sshserverip> from another host21:09
PuffTheMagicDragHah, I have no need for Skype.21:09
PuffTheMagicDragAnd who types? Lame :D21:09
syn-ackI do.21:09
Lizards|Worknak21:09
metacodeHey guys, I am having a problem with my ubuntu 13.04. Can I ask for a solution here?21:11
Lizards|Workyou can ask21:11
ranticmetacode: No!21:11
ranticmetacode: Of course21:11
metacode@rantic so where should I ask it?21:12
ubuntivityGuys, I have an old laptop with a broken screen, I have ubuntu server installed on it. I need it to have Video output to the external monitor by default. Is that possible?21:12
ranticmetacode: I was being sarcastic, this is exactly where you should ask your question21:12
PuffTheMagicDragLinux dance!! 0-\-<21:12
Seth_Hello guys, I'm having a bit of trouble with ubuntu. I was wondering if I could get some help21:12
PuffTheMagicDrag0-/-<21:12
PessimistSeth_, just ask21:13
PuffTheMagicDrag0|-<21:13
xangua!ot | PuffTheMagic21:13
ubottuPuffTheMagic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:13
metacodeOh ok :P Ok so I can't get Bluetooth to work on my ubuntu 13.04. The weird thing is that it works when I use a DVD and choose 'try ubuntu'. But it doesn't work on the installed one21:14
Seth_So, I had Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a bootable flash drive21:14
Seth_I messed around with it, and decided I liked it21:14
Seth_I went to install it, and decided to partition it21:14
Pessimist!oneline | Seth_21:14
Seth_with windows 721:14
auronandace!enter21:14
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:14
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Seth_Installation was complete, and it told me i needed to restart the computer, so that my changes could be saved and what not21:15
ubuntivityIs it possible to turn off laptop screen once the system boots?21:15
PuffTheMagicDrag... I think MAGIC is even more likely than that.21:16
PuffTheMagicDragWrong chat, sorry.21:16
Seth_Now, I have no option to boot ubuntu21:17
metacodeI can't get Bluetooth to work on my ubuntu 13.04. The weird thing is that it works when I use a DVD and choose 'try ubuntu'. But it doesn't work on the installed one.21:17
wilee-nileeSeth_, Do you have more than one HD?21:17
ubuntivity!repeat | metacode21:17
ubottumetacode: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/21:17
Lizards|WorkSeth_, are you sure you selected the correct disk for installation?21:17
Seth_I only have one harddrive21:18
PuffTheMagicDragAnyone here have a recommended site or book they like to brush up on using Ubuntu very quickly? I don't mean a forum or something like that, I don't have specific questions and I'm not looking for specific answers. I'm just wondering if anyone has a tutorial site they like to send noobies to, who want to cut some time off their learning curve.21:18
Lizards|Workmetacode, try enabling proprietary sources in software sources and updating. maybe your driver isn't the best option available21:18
kalenPuffTheMagicDrag: Ubuntu Made Easy is supposed to be pretty good. I think it was just updated not too long ago21:18
robottiis it so that bluetooth keyboard pairing is totally broken?21:18
wilee-nileeSeth_, On the live cd run this app the bootinfo summary only, and post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair21:19
PessimistHow do you remove unity and all of it's related applications? (except lightdm)21:19
kalenPuffTheMagicDrag: http://nostarch.com/ubuntumadeeasy21:19
xokhello all...21:19
geniiubuntivity: You could try something like putting xset dpms force standby    ..in /etc/rc.local21:19
xokI have postfix on the ubuntu system and the logs are completely empty...21:19
Seth_okay, one moment21:19
xokcan anyone help find where are they stored?..21:19
wilee-nileePessimist, Unity is a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3, what is your goal here?21:19
zykotic10Pessimist: my suggestion... don't bother.  just install whatever DE you want, and leaving Unity.  Breaking metapackages is a pain.  If you really wanted, start from mini, and don't install any of the *-desktop metapackages.21:20
metacodeI did try a few threads but none of them worked. I also tried using some other driver but stil no luck. But if the driver was incompatible then why would it work in 'try ubuntu' mode?21:20
evillasewould anyone be able to help with a compile error I receive on a UML linux kernel http://hastebin.com/rowuferigi.vbs21:20
wilee-nilee+1 for zykotic1021:21
PuffTheMagicDragOh yeah, Kalen ;) Forgot to thank you earlier, too. Thank you.21:21
ubuntivitygenii: will that cause a system-standby?21:21
kalenPuffTheMagicDrag: no worries21:21
ubuntivityI want the computer to keep running, only the screen off to save power21:21
Lizards|Workmetacode, just like the nvidia graphics driver work in try ubuntu but on reboot you're at a black screen because linux-source and linux-headers-generic weren't available to compile the nvidia driver21:22
geniiubuntivity: That will c ause the monitor to be in standby. So it will be off until someone uses something at the keyboard or uses the mouse/trackpad21:22
xokI have a postfix running on Ubuntu and it doesn't log in /var/log/mail.log21:22
sim590Hi. When I list /dev, I get a device called 'sdb' with no partitions (no sdb1, sdb2, ...) and there is not any USB devices connected.. The only device connected and that should be shown is my hard drive sda.. what's going on? How can I have more info about sdb? I did fdisk /dev/sdb, but it failed21:22
ubuntivityNice, genii. But you know ubuntu server has NO X.org, so will it work either way?21:22
xokdoes anyone of you know where to search?..21:22
geniiubuntivity: You didn't specify server :)21:23
metacodeSo how to find out which driver to use?21:23
ubuntivityI specified :))21:23
geniiubuntivity: Ah, earlier, i see now.21:24
ubuntivitySo, that "xset" is specific for X.org, right genii ?21:24
Lizards|Workmetacode, superkey -> software & updates, the 'Additional Drivers' tab21:24
Lizards|Workcheck if there's options21:24
wilee-nileesim590, run sudo fdisk -l21:24
geniiubuntivity: Yes, xset is for X21:24
metacodeLizards|work no its empty21:25
sim590wilee-nilee: well.. what is strange is that it appears and disappear21:25
sim590wilee-nilee: now it's not listed anymore.. I tried to fdisk and it said: no such file or directory..21:26
Lizards|Workmetacode, i'm not sure which sources you need to enable, but i'm fairly certain you're missing the proprietary driver for it21:26
geniiubuntivity: You could try instead vbetool dpms <state> where state is on/off/standby/suspend21:27
guest-rhszUUGood afternoon everyone , ive been experiencing a slow performance on my ubuntu 12, it gets very hot when im using adobe flash player, and it just starts slowing down any help?21:27
wilee-nileesim590, You have a disc reader or any cards plugged in or a floppy port, just a guess here.21:28
xanguaguest-rhszUU: stop using adobe flash or use it the less necesary21:28
metacodeLizards|work, Ok I'll try getting more info about it and try some more threads. Thanks for help.21:28
Lizards|Workmetacode, in Ubuntu Software in the Software & Updates, proprietary drivers for devices is the third checkbox21:28
guest-rhszUUits always running when im watching a video on my browser, any otrher alternative_21:29
guest-rhszUU?21:29
napscxok: look in /etc/syslog.conf     it should have the log locations and files21:29
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leftcaseguest-rhszUU - what's the CPU load (in top) when this is happening and what are the specs of the system you're using?21:30
xoknapsc: I don't have such file there...21:30
otakguest-rhszUU: here's one alternative - https://www.youtube.com/html521:30
guest-rhszUUcpu . only for browser w flash 5821:30
sim590wilee-nilee: there's nothing.. all dummies (dummy sdcard, ..)21:31
LuckySMackwill this still work on raring server for chrooting users to their own dir? I want to allow users to ftp and non sudo'able ssh. http://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze21:31
guest-rhszUUthank you otak ill give it a try21:31
wilee-nileesim590, Not sure, I don't understand the /dev to see this sdb21:31
wilee-nileeon occasion21:31
xoknapsc: I have a /var/rsyslog.d/postfix.conf file which doesn't contain anything interesting...21:31
leftcase:-/21:31
guest-rhszUUapart of that the system gets a slow performance some times, can i regulate the fan for the proceso_21:31
guest-rhszUUcan i regulate the fan of the CPU?21:32
napscdo you have /var/log?21:32
xoknapsc: yes, I do...21:33
leftcaseguest-rhszUU --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto21:33
napscdoes it have mail.log inside?21:33
xoknapsc: and it contains the file named mail.err and mail.log but those are completely empty...21:33
sam101Hi i have just swiped my existing Windows 7 installation with Ubuntu and now ubuntu 13.04 consists of so many bugs maybe i should go to the long term support one what do you guys think21:33
xoknapsc: are you familiar with the rsyslog?...21:34
wilee-nileesam101, Without any details on the breakage we can't really help, and that is an opinion.21:34
energizer2I just started getting some weird behavior in on google sites (maps and gmail so far). http://imgur.com/YQmjKLK21:34
guest-rhszUUthank you left case ill try that i dont know whats going on w the computer >*21:34
xokI see the configuration there pipes to xconsole..21:34
xokI think that's the reason...21:35
energizer2black lines like that move around the screen, and the top-bar (black) doesnt always appear as its supposed to21:35
wilee-nileesam101, The main benefit of longterm is support 12.04 is 5 years.21:35
sam101its not one breakage its every time i install ubuntu from by usb it fails to get drivers from my wireless adapter then it crashes on ubuntu center but maybe its my usb stick because it was working fluently before21:36
leftcaseguest-rhszUU that'll show you the speed of the sensor, but to control if you'll need something like the 'fancontrol' application21:36
wilee-nileesam101, What's the wireless card? some need a terminal install.21:37
PessimistI have installed kubuntu-desktop and it installed KDE like I wanted. But now that I want to remove KDE so I uninstall kubuntu-desktop but it only uninstalls the meta package. How do I uninstall KDE ?21:37
sam101Its belkin21:37
PessimistMy base is Ubuntu 13.04 so it should easy to do like installing it21:37
napscdo you have logging enabled?21:37
wilee-nileesam101, THis a usb?21:37
xangua!pureubuntu | Pessimist21:37
ubottuPessimist: If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu21:37
sam101yes usb21:38
gerihi i look for a program to display the diff between 2 files21:38
Pinkamena_Dcan anyone see the css3d-effect at the top of this website? http://acko.net/ I have tried many versions of chrome including the dev one and it will not work21:38
geri can someone recommend a gui based tool for ubuntu?21:38
Lizards|Workgeri, vimdiff21:38
jluc_its an option in the global setup manager rosco_y21:38
sam101but its working fine now i just removed it and put it back in and its working21:38
Pinkamena_DIt works fine on windows21:38
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jpdsgeri: diff -Nurp file1 file221:38
jluc_oups21:38
wilee-nileesam101,Chances are 12.04 will do no better on the wireless, if its a usb run lsusb and find it and post the exact model, if you need.21:38
leftcaseguest-rhszUU an ACPI compliant BIOS is supposed to control this but sometimes this doesn't work as it should. Google threw up this example of using fancontrol - I don't know if it's any good or not - http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed21:38
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xoknapsc: well, I think I do, how do I check?..21:39
sam101ok thanks and btw the adapter is working now i just took it out and plugged in again and it found it21:39
wilee-nileesam101, Cool, you indicated it was sporadic it seemed, be sure to use nicks when answering others then we actually are informed you are talking to us.21:40
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sam101Ok will do thanks21:41
wilee-nileeeasy to miss posts is all. sam10121:41
wilee-nilee;)21:41
xoknapsc: I found the reason, somehow log files were owned by "messagebus" instead of "syslog"...21:43
xoknapsc: thans for helping me...21:43
wilee-nileePinkamena_D, without booting to windows can you describe the missing effect better, is it moving?21:44
wilee-nileelook 3d but static21:44
wilee-nileelooks*21:45
daktaCould someone direct me to an appropriate channel to ask for support in?21:48
wNdakta: this one.21:48
wNunless its about a specific technology. then perhaps they have a special room for that, but this is the usual catch-all channel21:49
wilee-nileewN, Hardly this is ubuntu support21:49
daktawN: Excellent.21:49
wNwilee-nilee: what.21:49
wilee-nileenot sure I can be clearer21:50
wNyou could use punctionation for one.21:50
daktaI have a WD Green Power hard drive out of a bricked MyBook Live NAS device. I have two different SATA-USB interfaces: on a generic dongle type, one contained in an enclosure.21:50
PuffTheMagicDragI have some questions about TOR on Ubuntu, is there a better place to ask?21:50
wNPuffTheMagicDrag: you can go ahead and ask your question, or try #tor21:52
wNPuffTheMagicDrag: https://www.torproject.org/about/contact.html.en#irc21:52
wilee-nilee!attitude | wN21:52
ubottuwN: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines21:52
Kevin`is there somewhere I can adjust the timeout that applies to this? the server is down and it loves to choose it: 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)]21:52
wNwilee-nilee: really? leave me alone. be helpful or shut up.21:52
PuffTheMagicDragWent to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.21:53
wilee-nileewN, People who start out as jerks rarely improve.21:53
wNwilee-nilee: indeed. thats why i should stop talking to you :)21:53
sam101I have a lot of knowledge on tor fire away21:53
wNPuffTheMagicDrag: you coan try the irc at that link, or in that channel topic.21:53
daktaPuffTheMagicDrag: Helpful people in #tor... /s I'd help but I don't use TOR.21:53
wilee-nileeand not worth the hassle21:53
wNPuffTheMagicDrag: or just ask21:53
daktaSo, does anyone know anything about hard drives?21:54
wNdakta: they're square right? well ig uess more rectangle.21:54
Aprelhi, just installed windows 8.1 on my ubuntu machine for dualboot. Yes, I was careful with partitions and ubuntu partition is still there, but 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' returns Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.' Suggestions? I'm in the live cd now.21:54
wNdakta: you never actually asked a question.21:54
Kevin`dakta: you didn't ask a question, you just said you have a hard drive and usb adapters21:54
wilee-nileedakta, You need to staet your problem for hep, not poll the channel. ;)21:54
wilee-nileestaye*21:54
wilee-nileeAprel, This a UEFI gpt setup?21:55
daktawN: Just a mo'21:55
matrixa1http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4082556 support Ubuntu Edge! :D21:56
wNdakta: i hope you're not checking the shape of the drive. i was only joking.21:56
sam101if its a gpt partion table or ms dos ubuntu partion doesnt read them accuretly21:56
sam101<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to not21:56
sam101tor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went t21:56
sam101o #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.21:56
FloodBot1sam101: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:56
sam101<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to not21:56
wNoh sam101, wrong paste!21:56
Aprelwilee-nilee: not 100% sure what that is, but I used to dualboot w Windows 7, just wrote over the Ubuntu partition. Dualboot worked fine w Win7.21:56
geniiHm.21:56
PuffTheMagicDragWell, I can't ask the Tor question because I ran into another issue. Shut my laptop slightly, and now it21:57
Kevin`Aprel: you have to specify the boot/root directory when using grub-install from a different system21:57
Aprel^^ Sorry, overwrote the *WINDOWS7* partition21:57
PuffTheMagicDragNow it's flashing. Flashflash pause, flashflash pause. Just white screen. Also, sorry, didn't mean to hit enter21:57
daktaI've got a WD Green Power 2TB 3.5" SATA drive out of a bricked WD MyBook Live NAS device. I have two different SATA-USB interfaces, one a generic multipurpose dongle type and another contained in an enclosure. If I format the drive using one of those interfaces, everything works fine, up until I try to access the drive using the other interface. Then the drive appears unformatted and cannot be used unless it is formatting using that inte21:57
daktabecomes unusable on the other interface,21:57
daktaIt's like some kind of interface-UUID lock protection mode on the drive or something.21:57
wilee-nileeAprel, Run this app from the live cd (only the bootinfo summary) and post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair21:58
AprelKevin`: okay, can you please give an example command? Not sure what the boot/root dir is.21:58
daktaAnd I can't find any information about this.21:58
Kevin`dakta: show the exact size of the drive in bytes reported when using both interfaces21:58
Naughx--boot-directory=DIR21:58
wilee-nileeKevin`, That command is correct when a mbr is used.21:58
Pinkamena_Dwilee-nilee, I just looked back here after troubleshooting it manually21:58
matrixa1Aprel, i concur with wilee-nilee, you simply need to reinstall Grub, boot-repair will do that for you21:58
Kevin`wilee-nilee: boot repair is, grub-install run manually needs to know where to install to21:59
Pinkamena_DI just found the issue, that google chrome "blacklisted my gpu", but you can bypass this by going to chrome://flags21:59
wilee-nileeI would only run the bootinfo summary to begin with so we can see what's up. Aprel21:59
Pinkamena_Dand toggle the top option21:59
Pinkamena_Dstrangly, we have the same gpu in most computers here at the school, including the windows ones, so I think its more of a chrome/ubuntu issue22:00
napscxok: great.  sorry i was gone, tried to check a config i had, but don't use anymore. dont remember having problems with not logging.  usually logging too much22:00
pepeehey people, look at this and please add yourself to the report if you have problems:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/110685522:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 213215 in Baltix "duplicate for #1106855 Please include original cdrecord (cdrtools) package in Ubuntu" [Medium,In progress]22:00
pepeeto solve, add this repo:  https://launchpad.net/~brandonsnider/+archive/cdrtools22:00
wilee-nileeKevin`, sda is the mbr, except for th e extra (') it is correct if this is a msdos partitioning.22:01
Kevin`pepee: last I heard cdrtools took a bad path in licensing, has that changed?22:01
daktaKevin`: "2 TB (2,000,398,934,016 Bytes)" using the generic dongle, "2 TB (2,000,398,934,016 Bytes)". And yes, those bytes are the same.22:01
pepeeKevin`, no idea, I just found it22:01
ubuntivityGuys, I tried to play an MP3 file on my Ubuntu server using mpg123, I got the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909123/22:01
xoknapsc: no problem, thanks anyway for helping me...22:02
pepeebut the linked page says the problem is ficticious22:02
AprelOkay, I'm getting the boot-repair binaries22:02
pepeeKevin`, ^22:02
wNdakta: i would have to see what the exit issue you're hitting to help you further. how are you trying to format these devices? how are you accessing them? but i gotta run. sorry.22:02
* wN parts22:02
dagerikubuntivity: install alsa22:02
wilee-nileeAprel, Your command though from the live cd is incorrect.22:03
ubuntivityOK, dagerik. I'll try that and be back :)22:03
wilee-nileethat is run in the install22:03
Aprelwilee-nilee: okay, how can I fix it?22:03
daktawN: Ping me when you return, I'll let you know if I've solved it then.22:03
Kevin`pepee: that's the author's web site, and it doesn't list specifics22:03
goddardhow can i install custom themes from gnome-looks.org?22:04
wilee-nileeAprel, Generallthe basic repair would fix it with the boot repair if you have standard partitioning, you can chroot in and run that command as well.22:04
Kevin`pepee: all it says is some company didn't have a problem with the license22:04
daktawN: For the record, I've partitioned the drive using both Gparted and Apple's Disk Utility.app. I've tested other drives partitioned in the same manner on the same hardware using both dongles on the same hardware, and no problems like this.22:04
pepeewell, no idea about that22:04
Naughxsudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda (Note: Your ubuntu partition needs to be mounted at "/mnt")22:04
pepeeKevin`, but the thing is , ubuntu is shipping buggy code22:04
NaughxThat's what I do when I reinstall grub22:05
wilee-nileeAprel, The bootinfo summary will tell us the partitioning and boot info of W8.122:05
wNdakta: im headed home from work, so i wont be back until tomorrow at 9am. however, perhaps you'll catch me lurking tonight. send me a pm and i'll remember22:05
Kevin`pepee: actually, the statement is redundant since he's using a sun license. which is odd because iirc the purpose of that license is to require contributions to be owned by sun while still being open-source-ish22:05
daktawN: will do22:05
Kevin`pepee: then the bugs need to be fixed22:05
AprelNaughx: Oh, I should mount the ubuntu partition?22:05
Naughxyes22:06
ubuntivitydagerik: I got the same error but this time starting with "[module.c:141] error: Failed to open module esd: file not found22:06
test456Hey guys, how to hide this dark frame inside window? http://screencloud.net/v/AGAp22:06
pepeeKevin`, yeah, but then, I'd have to: debug some thing I don't know about, and then wait for weeks or months to get the working software22:06
Naughxsudo mount /dev/sdaY /mnt (Replace Y by your ubuntu partition)22:06
test456in inactive window its hided22:06
pepeeI prefer to add that repo and be done22:06
wilee-nileeAprel, All you have been informed is here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing22:07
Kevin`pepee: well, it's possible. you can't combine cddl code with gpl code as the licenses are incompatible, but nothing prevents a cddl program from being provided on linux by itself22:07
xibalbahow come some actions dont work well with sudo such as the following:22:07
xibalba<DanKnox> that's one of my worst fears22:07
PuffTheMagicDragUbuntu 64bit, how do I see a list of currently running tasks?22:07
xibalba$ :> index.html22:08
xibalba-bash: index.html: Permission denied22:08
FishsceneMy Ubuntu 13.04 x64 resumed from Standby just now... and apparently the appstore and firefox removed themselves and don't exist. How do I re-install the appstore?22:08
xibalba$ sudo :> index.html22:08
xibalba-bash: index.html: Permission denied22:08
Lizards|WorkPuffTheMagicDrag, top22:08
pepeeKevin`, I'm not a programmer btw, and far from a lawyer22:08
geniixibalba: For one thing, index.html is probably not a shell file22:08
xibalbai should be able to truncate it though genii22:08
pepeeanyway, thanks, but I'm just trying to help22:08
xibalbait's a file under /var/www22:08
AprelAh, thanks looks like Naughx's mount command then grub-install fixed it. It's just when I installed Win7 the first time I didn't remeber going through all these steps w grub, just like grub-install and it was done. All looks good now. Thanks!22:09
alumno__alguien que me ayude?22:09
Aprelalumno__: mejor hacer tu pregunta en #ubuntu-es para hablar en espanol22:09
PuffTheMagicDragPuedo traducir, pero no se nada de ubuntu.22:10
PuffTheMagicDragOh... Es mejor que hace como dice Aprel ;)22:10
daktay'all beat me to it.22:10
PuffTheMagicDragLizards|Work, found dashboard with recently used stuff... I think I'm missing a list of anything currently running in the background. I think I'm having Tor issues because there's already a copy running, I want to kill it.22:10
Lizards|Workps aux | grep tor22:11
pepee!es | alumno__22:11
ubottualumno__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:11
PuffTheMagicDragUm. Dumb it down, please, Lizards|Work?22:11
Lizards|Workcommand line22:11
pepeeAprel, use the bot ;)22:11
Aprelpepee: heh, keep forgetting it has so many responses. :)22:12
Lizards|WorkPuffTheMagicDrag, at command line, do "ps aux | grep 'tor'"22:13
sigwhiteI'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 15z alongside Windows 8. I have managed to install 13.04 by booting in legacy (non-EFI) mode and managed to install GRUB in non-secure UEFI mode, but launching Ubuntu fails silently (freeze) after the "loading ram" message from GRUB.22:13
Lizards|Workthat'll give you information about the existing tor process22:13
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PuffTheMagicDragThanks...22:13
Naughx@Aprel :)22:14
sigwhiteAlso, I can't boot from the 13.04 live CD unless I'm in legacy bios mode.22:14
PuffTheMagicDragWorking! Time for me to crash out. Three wins with a computer in one day is pushing it. In a moment, it will pull a Live Free Die Hard and blow up my house.22:15
ubuntivityGuys, I have Ubuntu server and I need to play sound with it. I had installed alsa and mpg123, but when I try to play mp3 file using mpg123 I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909153/22:15
geniiubuntivity: Try mplayer22:16
sigwhitetl;dr: I'm on an UEFI Win8 notebook and want to dual-boot Ubuntu. How?22:17
sigwhite(Wiki isn't helping)22:17
ubuntivitygoing to do that, genii22:17
PuffTheMagicDragYou have to disable Secureboot.22:17
PuffTheMagicDragKnow how to, sigwhite?22:17
ubuntivityit want's to install 73 new packages!!! genii22:18
ubuntivityIsn't there something lighter, genii?22:18
sigwhitePuffTheMagicDrag: I disabled "secure boot" in the UEFI setup / bios. But that has nothing to do with Ubuntu not launching.22:19
czuckhi there, I added gedit to the list of startup applications but now when I start up I get 2 gedit menu bars: one where it should be and a second one just below it. Any ideas on what could be causing this?22:20
geniiubuntivity: There's also moc, but I'm not sure what kind of dependencies that has22:21
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sigwhitegah22:21
FloodBot1sigwhite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:21
ubuntivityIs it neccessary for sound to play to have X.org installed? genii22:21
Pinkamena_Dafter you do "sudo su" how do you go back to a standard user?22:21
bpietroPinkamena_D, exit22:22
geniiubuntivity: mplayer shouldn't require X, moc either22:22
Aprelubuntivity: no, you just need sound package. I have a headless box that I play cds w all the time.22:22
Pinkamena_Dthanks22:22
trismczuck: my guess would be gedit starts before the menuproxy is ready, so it defaults back to the one in the window, might try making a script and adding a few seconds of delay before starting gedit22:22
Aprelubuntivity: alsa, for ex.22:22
bpietro:)22:22
ubuntivityI installed alsa, but mpg123 didnt play audio and the error was http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909153/22:23
czucktrism: thanks, I will try that right away22:23
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Aprelubuntibity: go to your alsa settings and make sure the mixer's volume isn't low. When alsa installed for me, valume was at 0 for some reason.22:23
* ubuntivity is feeling audio-less!22:24
ubuntivityHow to check alsa settings on command line?22:24
sig_whiteOkay, sorry about that. irssi threw up22:24
ttyalsamixer &22:25
otakubuntivity: alsamixer, also does this work: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*.wav22:25
ubuntivityThis is what I get, otak : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909179/22:27
tryithardercompiz is working but the window decoration is gone...22:27
czuck_trism: that worked, thanks very much22:27
ubuntivityWhen I try to aplay a wav file, I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909179/22:27
czuck_trism: bit hacky though... wish this could be done in sync22:28
ttysorry I meant just "alsamixer" no "&"22:28
ubuntivitytty, I doubt the volume is set to 0 since I'm getting an error trying to play files!22:29
otakubuntivity: you can try sudo alsactl init22:29
trismczuck_: well, we are supposed to have indicators starting from upstart soon in either 13.10 or 14.04 so that would allow you to have a job that starts gedit with something like: start on started indicator-appmenu22:29
sig_whiteHere's what I spent the better part of the day on: 1. Getting the live cd to work (uefi+secure: fail, boot to windows; uefi+non-secure: fail, freeze on launch; win livecd "help": fail, Win8 boot loader error; non-uefi: success). 2. Installing Ubuntu (had to "fix" sda GPT with GParted, then installed root partition on SSD sdb). 3. Installing GRUB for EFI using livecd with boot-repair.22:29
trismczuck_: that's the idea anyway22:29
ubuntivityDid it otak, same error with aplay :(22:30
czuck_trism: understood, will wait for that update, in the meantime the delay will do just fine22:30
napscubuntivity: does it work as root?22:30
czuck_trism: thanks again22:30
Aprelubuntivity: your log file suggests alsa can't find your sound card. You might be missing a driver/package.22:30
ubuntivityHow to know if the kernel supports my audio device?22:31
Lizards|Worki don't remember if you need to modprobe or something22:31
bpietrosig_white, seems it was a busy day ;)22:31
Kevin`pepee: btw, do dvd burning with growisofs (yes, iso images too), i've never had a problem with it22:31
sig_whiteIn order to install GRUB I had to boot in legacy mode to run the livecd. boot-repair luckily detected EFI nevertheless and asked me to install grub-efi... which failed because "source_dir doesn't exist" (google leads to bug report with no useful information other than "works as expected").22:31
pepeeKevin`, I just wasted 3 DVDs, and it seemed obvious that this was a software problem. and, yeah, it was22:32
pepeegood thing I usually use google to search for similar bugs22:32
Kevin`pepee: that's why i'm offering the suggestion to use growisofs instead of wodim22:33
pepeeubuntu has teached me well in that sense...22:33
pepeeah k, sorry, dunno what's growisofs22:33
bpietroyes, I like UEFI, too :P22:33
sig_whiteBasically, after enduring this nonsense for hours (completely blowing up my boot loader by checking "secure boot" in boot-repair at one point) I flapped the BIOS back to UEFI+secure and wiped the Ubuntu partitions.22:33
wNdakta: ping22:34
wNdakta: figure it out?22:34
pepeeKevin`, "growisofs - combined genisoimage frontend/DVD recording program." isn't it the same?22:34
Aprelpepee: wodim is an old fork. http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html has more updated source code. Perhpas the updated version will work?22:34
sig_whiteI really only have one question: How can I do this properly, or failing that, how can I remove GRUB now that it's completely vestigial and only shows up in nonsecure mode anyway?22:34
pepeethe problem is genisoimage, not k3b...22:34
Kevin`pepee: there ARE packages available for ubuntu unofficially, you've found, yes?  i've never had a problem though, and the author seems pretty hostile and has odd licensing terms, which means inclusion in debian is unlikely (ubuntu extras may be possible though)22:34
Kevin`pepee: you said you were using wodim for dvds, which it obviously doesn't work well for, not growisofs22:35
pepeeKevin`, yeah, I just added some ppa that has the package22:35
pepeeKevin`, bug report says it's a genisoimage bug22:35
pepeewhich affects everything else...22:35
pepeeI don't really know about all this, I'm not a dev22:36
goddardhow do you change system sounds?22:36
pepeebut it seems obvious to me that that program is buggy, while the original one isn't22:37
pepeeAprel, I didn't try22:37
bpietrosorry, I don't know. I only red some articles, saying to myself "Thanks for not having UEFI box'22:37
Kevin`pepee: individuals can ignore the law, but public entities can't :/22:37
pepeeI was going to try updating it, but I didn't, I found a quick and better solution22:38
pepeeKevin`, yeah, I know, but... are there alternatives, at least?22:38
* sig_white taps his mike: "Is this thing on?"22:39
Kevin`pepee: alternatives suitible for inclusion into the main debian repo? I doubt it22:39
patricia_não estou conseguindo fazer minha impressora funcionar por que?22:40
pepee!br | patricia_22:41
ubottupatricia_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.22:41
patricia_ok obrigada22:41
pozi am having a problem with the dash22:43
pozit is not transparent22:43
pozi tryed the compiz config utility  but it fails to fix the problem22:44
pozanyone know how to manually edit the settings?22:44
k1lpoz: use unity tweak tool, its in the repos since 13.0422:47
pozthat fails to work too22:49
Seth_Hey guys, I just wanted to come back to say thank you. I finally got my computer partitioned and my boot up fixed, thanks to you guys. You all are awesome.22:52
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pozAnyone know how to change the transparency of unity dash with out unity tweak utility or compiz config?22:53
pepeeKevin`, here it says you could distribute the source code: https://lwn.net/Articles/200374/22:55
pepeeagain, no idea, but if it's true... why not? AFAIK, you are already doing that22:55
pepeewith some packages22:55
Kevin`pepee: cddl is a proper opensource licence, but you can't combine gpl and cddl code (or libraries) since the licenses are not compatible22:57
Kevin`pepee: there's no problem distributing binaries if they don't link with gpl code (I think there's exceptions for system stuff, I forget where)22:57
guzzlefrySo, I was changing the theme in System Settings->Appearance (Gnome-shell), and my taskbar and friends disappeared.23:00
guzzlefryAny idea on how I can get them back?23:00
Kevin`pepee: refer the the previous comment. individuals (making their own packages) are free to ignore the law, but large public entities have to be very careful23:00
pepeeoh well, I dunno :/23:01
Kevin`I wonder why he's using cddl in the first place, it sounds to me like the change was because of some stupid argument23:01
doomlordanyone know oof a text editor which does (a)horiz/vert splits (b)tabed windowing, per spli; (c) folding.  i know of gedit,jedit,kate which all handle 2/323:01
Kevin`i'm sure the people who used to work at sun would LOVE to be able to remove the cddl from the zfs code, for example23:02
Kevin`and get it into linux23:02
Kevin`why anyone would intentionally create the incompatability..23:02
jribdoomlord: vim23:03
doomlordthe thing about the guis is its reallyy easy to move panes around, i always forget the hotkeyys. i like the idea of vim though but always gravitate back to something with ctrl xcv bindings from the ground up23:05
doomlordhad a spell of using emacs but ultimately its ctrl-g vs escape always bugs me, no matter  how much one rebinds23:06
akronixHey! why a lot of times pictures in facebook doesn't load properly with firefox??23:07
X-Sleepy-Xdoomlord: dunno if geany supports all of your specifications but maybe...23:07
doomlordright now gedit is my default .. the tabbed ui, and i can open a few more root windows to get  'vertical splits', but folding would be nice.23:09
satellit_ewhat is the name for the install program in 12.04.2?  I need to install it23:09
jribdoomlord: gvim23:10
X-Sleepy-Xsatellit_e: are you thinking about synaptic?23:10
iLogicalI can't select, although it's there in the menu and I click it,  in the Monitor of Built-in Analog Stereo...23:10
iLogicalon pavucontroçl23:11
satellit_eno I think I needed ubiquity....23:11
sig_whiteHelp! I want to dual-boot Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 with UEFI. I can only install Ubuntu from live CD in legacy (non-UEFI) mode and can't install grub-efi because "source_dir doesn't exist". Secure-mode toggle does nothing. Wat!?23:11
MonkeyDust!uefi | sig_white start here23:13
ubottusig_white start here: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:13
doomlordgvim looks pretty good, not sure it has the tabs and it doesnt come with my  prefereed bindngs out of the box ..i suspect i'd hae an emacslike experience with it23:15
sig_whiteMonkeyDust: I have started there and worked through that and it's not helping. The point at which I gave up was: GRUB working with UEFI enabled (but secure mode disabled), but freezing after "loading initial ramdisk...".23:15
sig_whiteMonkeyDust: I'm fairly certain the issue has something to do with grub-efi failing when I install it with apt-get as boot-repair tells me to do.23:16
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* rodrigograca31 waves hello23:19
sig_whiteMonkeyDust: Any other ideas? Most of the stuff I find out there is completely irrelevant because it assumes I can run the livecd in any mode other than pure legacy. I tried UEFI:true/true, UEFI:true/secure:false, UEFI:false (i.e. legacy mode), as well as the booting "help" in the windows autorun thing that's on the live CD. The ONLY way I could boot into the live CD was using Legacy.23:19
holsteinsig_white: the "thing" on the cd is wubi.exe23:20
holstein!wubi23:20
ubottuWubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug23:20
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sig_whiteholstein: irrelevant as it didn't work anyway.23:20
holsteinsig_white: you'll need to be able to run some kind of installation media to install23:20
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MonkeyDustsig_white  no, i have an old pc myself, not familiar enough with uefi23:21
holsteinsig_white: its actualy quite relevant, since you are trying to install, and that is not a normal install23:21
sig_whiteholstein: Let me repeat that: I got the live cd to run by disabling uefi in the bios.23:21
megrandpacan anybody suggest a chromium addon to download videos from youtue23:21
megrandpayoutube*23:21
holsteinsig_white: that is one way to run the installer. is that not an ecceptable way to continue?23:21
sig_whiteholstein: by simply disabling secure mode (but not uefi) I could run the live cd *menu*, but selecting install or "try ubuntu" just froze.23:22
holsteinmegrandpa: no... you can ask the content creator, or search around23:22
holstein!nomodeset | sig_white23:22
ubottusig_white: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:22
holstein^^ i would try that from the live CD.. you could be experiencing hardware support issues relating to your graphics card that have nothing to do with UEFI23:22
sig_whiteholstein: I managed to install Ubuntu, but it didn't give me a way to boot into it because the setup couldn't install a bootloader (grub failed).23:22
holsteinsig_white: from the install you made, that i assume you dont know if it works, or will boot a graphical environment23:23
holsteinsig_white: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair23:23
sig_whiteholstein: That would be a possibility. Would that explain why GRUB freezes with this?: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WEUvjd6msdw/UfAU0oEFfTI/AAAAAAAAAL4/mqV-0dkY_Gg/w680-h510-no/24.07.13+-+123:24
akronixanyone knows if gedit is available for xubuntu??23:24
holsteinakronix: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. the same repos. sudo apt-get install gedit23:24
kostkonmegrandpa, if you are also looking for a desktop app, this here is fine https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/allvideodownloader/23:24
akronixvia software center i can't install it23:24
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holsteinsig_white: did you install grub or not?23:25
sig_whiteholstein: I installed from live cd in legacy mode, then ran the live cd in legacy mode and ran boot-repair, which detected the efi, but when it told me to run a couple of shell commands to install grub-efi, grub-efi failed to install because the post-install script is broken (according to the only bug report I could find), which leads me to believe grub wasn't installed correctly by boot-repair.23:25
sig_whiteInstalling with the live cd's "install ubuntu" ended with grub failing to install. I had to install grub with boot-repair later (using the live cd in legacy mode again).23:26
ubuntivityguys, how can I run a command through ssh that remains running even when my ssh gets disconnected?23:27
sig_whiteOh, and at one point I managed to install grub-pc instead and that let me run neither Ubuntu nor Windows, which was fun.23:27
zykotic10akronix: terminal "apt-cache policy gedit"23:27
syn-ackubuntivity: screen.23:27
ubuntivitywhat does screen do?23:27
zykotic10syn-ack: honestly, i'd suggest tmux over screen these days YMMV ;)23:27
ubuntivityI tried tmux once23:27
akronixoks, thanks, i'll try both...23:27
jribubuntivity: if you don't care about output or returning to the screen where you launched it, COMMAND & disown.  If you care about output, nohup COMMAND.  If you want to reattach to the screen, either "screen COMMAND" or "tmux COMMAND".23:27
syn-ackhaven't played with it, zykotic1023:27
Guest98194Hey all, would anyone be able to walk me through installing ubuntu on a Barebone Computer? Just now getting into the Ubuntu scene and I don't wanna mess up my first try or anything like that.23:28
syn-ackubuntivity: it's like tmux23:28
jribubuntivity: tmux is screen's younger, more hip brother23:28
syn-ackI'm a bit old fashioned, apparently.23:28
jribsee ^23:28
zykotic10syn-ack: it's different!  but much more modern - once i switched it to screen keybindings life was grand again ;)23:28
ubuntivityso, I can reattach using tmux command, right?23:29
* jrib will not ask zykotic10 if "screen keybindings" == ctrl-a so as not to be disappointed23:29
jribubuntivity: tmux attach23:29
ubuntivitybut what if I have two tmux-ed COMMAND that are the same? getting over-obsessive here!)23:29
megrandpakostkon, i will try it23:29
jribubuntivity: tmux ls, tmux -t blah attach23:29
jribubuntivity: or maybe tmux attach -t blah (based on my history)23:30
sig_whiteholstein: The ubuntuforums are down, which is part of the reason Google isn't being very helpful with this.23:30
ubuntivityI'll try to mess around with man tmux23:30
ubuntivityWhy both Ubuntu forums AND Apple developers site are down at the same time?23:30
zykotic10syn-ack: and anyone else reading - the ONLY downside to tmux is that it's BSD licensed.  so if GPL is an issue... other then that (and the fact screen does physical serial connections) tmux rocks.  jrib i try many more keybinding then that ;)  but that's the first one [i guess NOT good if you use emacs... but i'm a vi-guy ;)]23:31
ubuntivityare there any recent server vulnerabilities??23:31
akronixlol, apple developers is down too?23:31
jribzykotic10: but readline...23:31
holsteinsig_white: well, we know the cd's and iso's work.. you can always ask the manufacturer how you are supposed to use the system23:32
zykotic10jrib: also an issue! yes.23:32
ubuntivityyes akronix, and they (themselves) said that some userdata were exposed, and they are extending the duration of apps availability on their store during this downtime23:32
syn-ackWhat23:33
zykotic10jrib: my brain just can't switch to ^b... ^a is "natural" at this point - years of using screen, has warped my brain.23:33
syn-ackwhat's wrong with the BSD license?23:33
syn-ackI prefer it over the GPL.23:33
akronixbut userdata of apple developers were exposed too?? OMG that's not serious for apple23:33
jribzykotic10: ^b is also bad.  Personally I use alt-space23:33
zykotic10syn-ack: non-copyleft [OT issue here!]23:33
ubuntivityThey declared that for sake of "transparency" I remember!23:34
sig_whiteholstein: I am serious. "sudo apt-get install grub-efi" fails with "source_dir doesn't exist", as will "grub-install" afterwards. This isn't a weird manufacturer quirk. There's even a Launchpad ticket mentioning it. The only problem is that neither the manpage nor any of the tickets or Google results indicate what this message means or how to fix it.23:34
w30Guest98194, don't leave so fast first of all !!!23:34
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syn-ackzykotic10: You're the one who brought it up....23:35
sig_whiteFWIW, it didn't prevent GRUB from being installed "properly" (i.e. I reboot and see GRUB in non-secure UEFI mode), so maybe that error doesn't really have any impact other than marking the package as not being installed correctly.23:35
nimdAHKCan I replace my existing partition setup (/, /home, swap) with one extended partition?23:35
ubuntivitygotta go eat, good bye :)23:36
ubuntivityquit hungry23:36
zykotic10nimdAHK: one extended, and at least 3 logical drives!  BUT, grub and fstab won't be happy!  you'll need to reinstall/and rescan grub!23:36
sig_whiteholstein: Oh, just an aside: is it possible to install Ubuntu's root partition on sdb instead of sda? Windows is on sda, but sdb is an SSD, so that'd be neat.23:37
holsteinsig_white: im not clear how you are booting the system without grub23:37
nimdAHKzykotic10: right. Can I do it in-place?23:37
sig_whiteholstein: Depends on what you mean by "the system". Windows 8 is still installed.23:37
holsteinsig_white: you can install whatever you want where ever you want (or are allowed)23:37
syn-acksig_white: This is why Secure Boot is evil23:37
zykotic10nimdAHK: if you're hitting the 4 partition limit on MS-DOS - then that is what you might want to do.  BUT - personally, i think resizing partitions is insanity (have a backup!) - good luck23:38
sig_whitesyn-ack: Don't tell me. Tell Microsoft.23:38
akronixi've a very annoying issue with the wireless card of my netbook (samsung n150), it doesn't work cause driver is not installed. I've installed jockey and It has found the driver, I press to activate it and It prompts error:23:38
syn-acksig_white: you do have Secure Boot disabled, right? Otherwise you'll need a signed kernel.23:38
nimdAHKzykotic10: I know what I want to do23:38
nimdAHKthe problem is how23:38
holsteinsig_white: micorsoft made the hardware? its likely a vendor, and there is probably a way to turn off what is causing you trouble23:38
zykotic10nimdAHK: "in place" is probably not possible - but i could be wrong?!?23:38
sig_whitesyn-ack: FWIW, if I had known this I'd probably waited for the Chromebook Pixel rather than buying a Dell.23:38
akronix2013-07-25 01:31:18,953 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted23:38
sig_whiteholstein: Isn't secure boot basically Microsoft's idea / pet?23:39
syn-acksig_white: did you go into the EFI console and disable Secure Boot?23:39
wilee-nilee!broadcom | akronix23:39
ubottuakronix: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx23:39
syn-acksig_white: ues23:39
syn-ackyes23:39
akronixi'm under xubuntu, but previously I had fuduntu and this card worked perfectly23:39
holsteinsig_white: if you have an issue with the hardware config, you'll need to ask the hardware manufacturer.. not microsoft23:39
zykotic10akronix: "blacklisted" means the driver doesn't get loaded23:39
holstein!broadcom | akronix23:40
ubottuakronix: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx23:40
sig_whitesyn-ack: Yeah, I did all that. It might not even be a UEFI issue at this point, as I has been pointed out to me.23:40
syn-acksig_white: cleared the TPM?23:40
w30akronix, I had a problem like that with broadcom drivers. There is dependency problems. I solved it by wiring up and then using synaptic to install the broadcom driver plus the dependencys23:40
syn-ackUpdate the EFI Firmware?23:40
sig_whiteWhat seems weird to me, however: when I booted into the live cd in legacy boot mode it worked just fine, so how could nomodeset have anything to do with it?23:41
w30akronix, then remove the wire and connect with the radio *smile*23:41
holsteinsig_white: that was me going off of what i read, which was different from waht is happening23:41
sig_whiteI'm fairly certain Ubuntu and GRUB would work just fine if I skipped UEFI altogether and installed both in legacy mode. Well, except GRUB exploded when I tried that.23:41
holsteinsig_white: you have a complex issue, and getting the details straight will be key23:41
akronixw30: but how Can I say the name of the driver and dependency for type it in synaptic??23:42
holsteinsig_white: for example, you say grub failed to install, but you have an issue with the installed grub.. that is interesting to me, and unclear23:42
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holsteinakronix: you can refer to the link i gave for the package name23:42
syn-acksig_white: with UEFI, you NEED to install it in EFI mode. Legacy mode won't work like it does in EFI23:42
akronixnow I'm using an external antena for wifi23:42
holstein!broadcom > akronix23:42
ubottuakronix, please see my private message23:42
sig_whiteholstein: Oh, okay. Well, the reason this sounds inconsistent is that I'm describing what I did throughout the course of maybe 8 hours and I had different results through different courses of action.23:43
holsteinsig_white: if you can boot the live system, and have no graphics issues, then you likely have no graphics support issues23:43
w30akronix, First of all have you got a broadcom wireless chip?23:43
akronixok, thanks ubottu I'm going to see it23:43
holsteinsig_white: what would i do? disable all of that as possible23:43
akronixw30: yes, 433X23:43
akronix4322X sorry*23:43
syn-acksig_white: What it sounds like is happening is that, even though you turned Secure Boot off, it's not.23:44
syn-ackit's expecting it's keys, which you don't have.23:44
w30akronix, synaptic finds the broadcom driver .deb by entering "broadcom" in search23:44
wilee-nileesig_white, Do you have windows backed up, or feel comfortable if this whole thing goes south?23:45
sig_whiteholstein: I tried that. Disabled UEFI ("legacy mode"), installed grub-pc, rebooted: bam, all kinds of weird crap (it threw me into a fancy GUI for a second then just showed me a test pattern of colored bars and froze).23:45
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syn-ackRight, the EFI console.23:45
s00pcancan anyone suggest a cli/curses program/package to configure wifi+dhcp? thanks23:45
holsteinsig_white: with UEFI disabled is the way to start23:45
s00pcanI used wifi-menu on arch-linux but eh can't find it23:45
syn-acksig_white: I'd really have to see it in person for this one23:45
euxnekshow do I disable certain pidgin notifications? I have a person on my buddies list that is constantly logging in and out for some weird reason and it's really irritating23:46
w30akronix, then just check the broadcom selection and synaptic drags some other stuff. just relax and let it have it's way with you23:46
holsteinsig_white: if you installed, and took updates, then you have installed a different kernel than what was on the live CD, which could be, again, not supporting your graphics card23:46
sig_whitewilee-nilee: "comfortable"? Not really. All important stuff is in the cloud (can't believe I said that with a straight face) so all the rest is basically fluff, but I don't have a full data backup and don't have a physical recovery disk.23:46
w30akronix, heheh23:46
euxneksoh wait I found it under plugins with libnotify> configure plugin23:46
wilee-nileesig_white, Really, the recovery is on board burn one, and make an image, that would have been my first question, cover your booty. ;)23:47
holsteini agree. if win8 is important, clone or back it up23:47
sig_whitewilee-nilee: I'm a self-employed web dev. The notebook is my office. I don't really want to have to wipe it at any point.23:48
holsteinsig_white: that hard drive *will* fail.. so plan for that, and you will be covered for anything that might happen here23:48
wilee-nileesig_white, understandable, however if it gets beyond repair what will you do?23:48
MichaelPLooking on google for away to make apt-get install packages faster.. But all im coming up with is the dumb download things like apt-fast... Thats not what im wanting.. Wanting to make it not go thru so much while installing...23:49
sig_whiteholstein: Makes sense, except "try ubuntu" freezes (i.e. I select the option, press ENTER, get a blank screen in the same soothing purple, forever) in non-secure UEFI mode.23:49
holsteinsig_white: you said "the ubuntu live CD works fine"23:49
wilee-nileetook one loss of a bunch of music to make me realize how important contingencies are.23:50
holsteinsig_white: if it doesnt then it doesnt,a nd we can troubleshoot accordingly23:50
holstein!nomodeset23:50
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:50
holstein^^ that is what i would try for the issue you mention23:50
sig_whiteholstein: Well, I know it will fail eventually, but the bigger issue isn't installing Win8 but installing a crap-ton of software. Recovery disk wouldn't help with that.23:50
lauratikahow can i encrypt the whole disk in 12.04?...23:50
wilee-nileelauratika, You installed?23:51
holsteinsig_white: the fact is, you *can* break you win8 here.. if you go on without an image, i consider that risky.. do what you want23:51
sig_whiteholstein: "the ubuntu live CD works fine [in non-UEFI "legacy boot" mode]".23:51
holsteinsig_white: legacy mode is what to use23:51
lauratikawilee-nilee: yes already installed23:51
holsteinsig_white: if you have installed in legacy mode, and have other issues, we can discuss those23:52
sig_whitewilee-nilee: All my music is both on Google Music and Wuala. All my emails are on mail servers with their own regular backups. All my work data is on Wuala, too. Everything else is fluff.23:52
wilee-nileelauratika, Cool, I can't really he,lp I just use a truecrypt folder for passwords, others can though23:52
lauratikawilee-nilee: thanx23:53
wilee-nileesig_white, Cool, do what you want, seems like the OS might be important and the hours of updates yo have done and installs, being it is your work, best of luck. ;)23:53
sig_whiteholstein: Sorry if I wasn't clear: I can ONLY run the live CD's "try ubuntu" (or "install ubuntu", for that matter) in legacy. However install always fails at the end because of GRUB ("couldn't install grub on /dev/sda" or something), so I tried to fix that with boot-repair on the live CD.23:53
BoFneed help for xubuntu install proxy anyone??23:54
wilee-nilee!details | BoF23:56
ubottuBoF: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:56
sig_whitewilee-nilee: TBH, none of that fluff (i.e. things that aren't backed up) is valuable enough that losing it in a catastrophic hardware failure scenario would hurt me much and it's too inconvinient to back up (huge applications, config files spread all over the disk, etc), but it would be more than annoying to lose it simply because I want to install Linux natively.23:56
WillHey people. Can someone guide me how to reload my packets? I am not very sure what packets are to be completely honest.23:57
sig_whitewilee-nilee: Seriously, the most important reason I'm trying to install Ubuntu is that there is no good terminal emulator for Windows and msys/mingw kinda sucks.23:57
wilee-nileesig_white, What would your momma tell you to do? ;)23:58
BoFi'm running on Xubuntu 13.04 i would like pass by an proxy server but how? i hear to tsocks but i can't install it!23:58
sig_whitewilee-nilee: She's more careless than I am. She'd probably tell me to buy a second notebook.23:58
k1lWill: "sudo apt-get update" ?23:58
sig_whiteMy *wife* OTOH would kill me if I did that ;)23:58
wilee-nileesig_white, Heh, my only concern is protecting you from yourself to be honest, Heh, and your wife.23:59

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