[00:00] <jrib> RaveYoda: pastebin
[00:00] <RaveYoda> jrib,  I seriously don't know.
[00:00] <jrib> RaveYoda: remove "interesting" from my question
[00:02] <RaveYoda> jrib, I can't say so. But here is the thing, when this happened with virtualbox I did edit the dpkg file to no longer have the virtualbox listed in it. But I KNOW i only removed the vbox entry
[00:02] <xangua> Where is the graphic of ubuntu edge¿
[00:02] <jrib> RaveYoda: :/
[00:02] <rannonga> xangua, what?
[00:03] <RaveYoda> jrib, and even then, removing the vbox entry shouldn't affect wicd for instance
[00:03] <jrib> RaveYoda: what exactly did you do to remove the vbox entry?
[00:04] <RaveYoda> jrib, I went in to the dpkg file; found vboxl deleted it and then restarted my system
[00:04] <jrib> RaveYoda: define "the dpkg file"
[00:05] <RaveYoda> jrib, That's what it's called. dpkg. -shrugs- I don't even  recall it's exact location
[00:05] <Casey> is 8GB of DDR3 ram "overkill" for a linux fileserver? roughly 20-25 users accessing data, maybe a total of 10 users at once. Data is stretched over 2, 2TB raid1 drives on a raid controller.
[00:05] <RaveYoda> jrib, I think it was in /usr/share
[00:05] <RaveYoda> jrib, brb
[00:05] <Casey> CPU is a AMD 550 BE dual-core 3.1GHZ 6MB L3 cache
[00:07] <CheckDavid_> I installed ubuntu on Virtual box, and I wonder why it starts up on TTY
[00:07] <CheckDavid_> It's like, command line stuff. I don't know much about this to be honest.
[00:07] <Ben64> maybe you installed ubuntu server
[00:08] <Casey> CheckDavid: sounds like Ubuntu Server.
[00:08] <Casey> CheckDavid: if you installed Server edition, you can get gui by doing these simple command lines.....
[00:09] <Casey> CheckDavid:    sudo apt-get update
[00:10] <Casey> CheckDavid: then input password and let it run. Next command, sudo apt-get upgrade               then let those install. Lastly,   sudo apt-get install Ubuntu-desktop
[00:10] <CheckDavid_> Oh, how do I know if it is server?
[00:10] <genii> First check that you didn't get dumped into a root recovery console
[00:10] <CheckDavid_> The name of the iso is ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[00:10] <Ben64> then thats not server
[00:11] <Casey> CheckDavid: look at the file you downloaded...
[00:11] <Casey> CheckDavid: that is not server,
[00:11] <Casey> yeah Ben64: said it
[00:11] <rannonga> is that the right architechure?
[00:11] <genii> You might either be in: grub prompt  or: root recovery prompt
[00:11] <CheckDavid_> So, what do I do exactly'
[00:11] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: tell us exactly what is on the screen
[00:12] <RaveYoda> jrib, back
[00:12] <RaveYoda> jrib, Anyway, this also affects Ubuntu Builder
[00:12] <CheckDavid_> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS d-Virtuabox tty1
[00:12] <CheckDavid_> d-Virtualbox login:
[00:12] <jrib> RaveYoda: my guess is it is because of your manual edits to some file that you don't know the location of
[00:13] <jrib> RaveYoda: especially if this is happening with multiple unrelated packages
[00:13] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: log in
[00:13] <troulouliou_dev> hi is mir only for unity?
[00:13] <CheckDavid_> Done
[00:13] <RaveYoda> jrib, Yes, my thoughts too. The issue is how to fix this
[00:13] <CheckDavid_> what do I do after logging in?
[00:13] <jrib> RaveYoda: step 1) figure out what file you edited
[00:14] <rannonga> David, are you still at the terminal?
[00:14] <energizer> I'm trying to shrink a partition in Gparted to install a new distro. Can someone help me walk through the gparted configuration?
[00:14] <Ben64> RaveYoda: step 2) don't edit random files again if you don't know what they do
[00:14] <rannonga> sure, energizer
[00:14] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, yes
[00:14] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: sudo service lightdm start
[00:15] <RaveYoda> jrib, Yes, well, this was through a tut
[00:15] <CheckDavid_> Ben64, but why this happens?
[00:15] <RaveYoda> jrib, I just followed it...blindly....
[00:15] <rannonga> energizer, what is the filetype?
[00:15] <jrib> RaveYoda: that's a good start, find the tut.  Or check your history
[00:15] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: don't know, we don't really have any details from you
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Take a screenshot of gparted and put it in a imagebin.
[00:16] <RaveYoda> jrib, Heh...heh...the history is cleaned when ff stops
[00:16] <CheckDavid_> I just installed Ubuntu on a VirtualBox
[00:16] <rannonga> final fantasy?
[00:16] <CheckDavid_> What other details are there? Hardware specs Ben64 ?
[00:16] <jrib> RaveYoda: command line history
[00:16] <saiarcot895> troulouliou_dev: no, mir can run on unity any other popular DEs
[00:17] <rannonga> yeah are you sure its i386?
[00:17] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: how you installed, what you did during install, after install, hardware specs sure
[00:17] <rannonga> your computer?
[00:17] <saiarcot895> !mir | troulouliou_dev
[00:17] <CheckDavid_> I may have a 64 bit machine, you think that is a problem?
[00:18] <Casey> anyone know why Ubuntu will only allow my nic card to connect at 10/100 and not 1000? cable, router, and nic all support 1000mbps . I go into network tools and it shows "link speed: not available
[00:18] <rannonga> david, yeah, if you have a 64 bit machine should use the other architecture
[00:18] <RaveYoda> jrib, well...i'll be here for a while
[00:18] <CheckDavid_> http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Ubuntu-on-VirtualBox <-- I just followed this
[00:18] <rannonga> are you on windows atm?
[00:18] <RaveYoda> jrib, actually, it wasnt through cli
[00:18] <troulouliou_dev> saiarcot895, but all the de needto be patched for mir no?
[00:19] <troulouliou_dev> saiarcot895, as for wayland
[00:19] <Casey> rannonga: but do you really think that would have to do with him not getting a GUI?
[00:19] <CheckDavid_> Yes I am rannonga
[00:19] <rannonga> i dont know
[00:19] <RaveYoda> jrib, i gksud mucommander then found the file
[00:19] <CheckDavid_> I thought 32 bit would work fine.
[00:19] <energizer> wilee-nilee: im running gparted live
[00:19] <rannonga> it should
[00:19] <CheckDavid_> So 32 bit has problems working on 64?
[00:19] <rannonga> no
[00:19] <CheckDavid_> Oh, I am completely lost.
[00:19] <RaveYoda> jrib, also, i found A dpkg folder in /etc
[00:20] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: did you try what i suggested yet
[00:20] <CheckDavid_> Tried so many things today to get Ubuntu to work.
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> energizer, hit the prtsc button and put the image in a imagebin.
[00:20] <rannonga> are you sure you actually have a window manager?
[00:20] <rannonga> david, ?
[00:20] <saiarcot895> troulouliou_dev: I don't know about any patches needed for Mir to run on other DE's; according to some videos, Mir runs on KDE, LXDE, etc.
[00:20] <CheckDavid_> Ben64, May you remind of of your last suggestion please?
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | energizer
[00:21] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: sudo service lightdm start
[00:21] <Casey> CheckDavid_: is this a clean install?
[00:21] <OerHeks> saiarcot895, not on KDE, i am sure
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> energizer, I don't like to help in these circumstances without seeing a pic myself.
[00:21] <saiarcot895> OerHeks and troulouliou_dev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h0m-ZjPxe8
[00:21] <CheckDavid_> Ben64, oh yes I did, it just listed a lot of stuff, says ok to all, nothing more.
[00:21] <rannonga> then restart?
[00:21] <saiarcot895> OerHeks: at least, according to Canonical
[00:21] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: can you pastebin it, or screenshot
[00:21] <CheckDavid_> Casey, what does it mean, clean install?
[00:22] <CheckDavid_> How do I select it ?
[00:22] <CheckDavid_> Would be nice if I could pastebin
[00:22] <rannonga> lol yeah
[00:22] <Casey> CheckDavid_: Did you just install this and nothing more, ie no apps installed, updates, etc..
[00:22] <energizer> wilee-nilee: so apparently gparted live doesnt access my internet connection (im doing irc on another comp). im going to take a picture with my phone.
[00:22] <rannonga> oh a live cd?
[00:22] <atifear> If I have a radeon 4870 what is the best distro to play games on steam?
[00:22] <rannonga> are you dual booting?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Ah a gparted only boot, I think it does have a browser but yeah not as easy as  live ubuntu.
[00:23] <CheckDavid_> No, nothing more Casey
[00:23] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: sudo service lightdm start | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[00:23] <rannonga> David, if all else fails i would suggest reinstalling
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> CheckDavid_, Install pastebinit and you can run  command | pastebunit and you will get the url to it
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> command | pastebinit*
[00:24] <Casey> CheckDavid_: So instead of trying to troubleshoot the issue, try another fresh install, this time with a 64-bit. I have it on my win7 laptop in vbox and works perfect. Sounds like a bad install or the wrong architecture. it'll save you more time.
[00:24] <rannonga> yeah whats your ram amount?
[00:25] <energizer> wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/e694SId.jpg
[00:25] <CheckDavid_> Casey, maybe I will try that. Ben64 what do you think about this suggestion?
[00:25] <Ben64> CheckDavid_: go for it
[00:25] <rannonga> or just go into my computer and right click and select properties, it should tell you the architecture
[00:25] <CheckDavid_> Also Ben64 I lost access to the console after your command
[00:25] <CheckDavid_> So it lists that stuff, and then it sort of crashes
[00:25] <CheckDavid_> NOt sure, just can't type anything
[00:26] <Casey> checkdavid_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=lts&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc is the direct download from ubuntu's website.
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> energizer, So you want to shrink the sdb2?
[00:26] <energizer> wilee-nilee: ya
[00:27] <rannonga> energizer, you should be able to just click on the partition and then select resize
[00:27] <rannonga> from the menu
[00:27] <CheckDavid_> I am downloading already Casey , thanks
[00:28] <Casey> CheckDavid_: No problem
[00:28] <energizer> wilee-nilee: rannonga ok clicked resize sdb2 and a window appears. i type 10000 into the "Free space following"?
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Cool, so as of now you have 3 primary partitions you are only allowed 4 at the max, so we want to get an extended in there, in which you can put multiple logicals in for future fun. So you you will at this point right click the sdb2 then resize and make it the size you want.
[00:28] <Casey> anyone know why Ubuntu will only allow my nic card to connect at 10/100 and not 1000? cable, router, and nic all support 1000mbps . I go into network tools and it shows "link speed: not available
[00:29] <rannonga> energizer, yeah that should be k
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Another key thing with partitions is that you want them to go from left to right, up numerically in order.
[00:30] <OerHeks> Casey, open terminal: lspci # and search the forums with the 8 digit hex number, if there is a known bug, you will find it.
[00:30] <energizer> wilee-nilee: what do you mean
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> energizer, That resize has a slider.
[00:30] <OerHeks> lspci # and search for your NIC first offcourse
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> energizer, What do I mean where, I mentioned several things, but the resize has a slider to make it easiest.
[00:31] <CheckDavid_> I wonder if this is really somethign reasonable to do. Changing from 32 to 64 I mean.
[00:31] <energizer> wilee-nilee: ok and then i press apply?
[00:31] <CheckDavid_> I thought there was backward compatibility, if this is a correct term.
[00:31] <rannonga> check, it might just have been a bad install
[00:31] <rannonga> check, you probably didn't actually need to download the 64bit
[00:31] <OerHeks> CheckDavid_, a 32 bit VM should run fine on 64 bit host
[00:32] <rannonga> energizer, yes
[00:32] <CheckDavid_> What about a Liveusb 32bits on a 64 bit machine?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Yeah if you have it set to the new size you want hit the green check in the top panel.
[00:32] <rannonga> check, it just limits the ram usage
[00:32] <RaveYoda> jrib, I found the file
[00:32] <jrib> RaveYoda: sorry, gonna go play some rball
[00:32] <RaveYoda> jrib, It's in /var/lib/dpkg/status
[00:33] <RaveYoda> jrib, ohh
[00:33] <RaveYoda> jrib, T.T
[00:33] <jrib> RaveYoda: you should have status-old though.  compare for significant differences.
[00:33] <energizer> wilee-nilee: ok
[00:33] <RaveYoda> jrib, Willco
[00:34] <energizer> wilee-nilee: i was having some trouble doing this while booted from sdb. is that normally the case? its working much easier now thatt im in the gparted live boot.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> energizer, It may take a little while and you will have an unallocated space. Yes you can not resize a mounted partition.
[00:34] <CheckDavid_> Is the thing I was getting called a TTY console?
[00:34] <sam113101> how do I change the font size of everything?
[00:34] <rannonga> why David?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> energizer, In windows you can but not in linux in general.
[00:35] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, I just want to know how to call it.
[00:35] <dysinger> Is there an easy way to debootstrap & then apt-get upgrade at the same time? debootstrap by itself results in an outdated distro.
[00:35] <rannonga> yeah i think so
[00:35] <energizer> wilee-nilee: ok and then if i want to put a new distro, ext4 should work for any linux?
[00:35] <CheckDavid_> What else would u call it rannonga ?
[00:35] <rannonga> David, youre right
[00:36] <CheckDavid_> OH ok.
[00:36] <rannonga> energizer, yeah just mount it as root partition
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> energizer, A ext4 yes, however we want to change what you have a bit so you have the correct setup for more partitions and have them in numerical order. So I can tell you now or when it has resized your choice.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> rannonga, I they put a partiton in the unallocated space they will have sdb4 before the sdb3 swap that is not good.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> If*
[00:38] <rannonga> yeah should be in order
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> rannonga, Cool just wanted to be sure we are on the same page.
[00:39] <energizer> wilee-nilee:  finished it. restarted into ubuntu, opened gparted (or is that a mistake)
[00:39] <CheckDavid_> Well, I will attempt once more to install ubuntu on usb drive
[00:40] <energizer> i have sdb1 sdb2 unallocated sdb3
[00:40] <CheckDavid_> This time with 64 bit, and I will format the USB drive, maybe it can do something good?
[00:40] <rannonga> check, i'm slightly confused isnt this a vm?
[00:40] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, it's only a VM because all else failed :(
[00:40] <rannonga> oh
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> energizer, That is okay, so what we want to do is remove the swap, and put a extended in all that space, then a logical ext4 and the swap afterward so you are in numerical order. This extended will allow you to load many more logicals if you want to add even more OS.
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> energizer, You will have to turn the swap off to remove it.
[00:42] <energizer> wilee-nilee: ok i think im following you.
[00:42] <rannonga> i would just reboot into the gparted live cd and do it from there
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Cool the extended is a container for the logicals.
[00:42] <rannonga> david, whats happening?
[00:43] <energizer> ok im gonna reboot into gparted because it seems like fewer steps
[00:43] <CheckDavid_> NOw I am running Universal USB installer rannonga
[00:43] <rannonga> David, so youre making a live usb now?
[00:44] <CheckDavid_> Yes rannonga
[00:44] <CheckDavid_> I am feeling kinda desperate =/
[00:44] <rannonga> david, what windows are you running?
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Cool feel free to make images if it is helpful.
[00:44] <CheckDavid_> That's why I went the VM route.
[00:44] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, 7
[00:44] <rannonga> david, so it's probably not a problem with secureboot
[00:45] <satellit> can you use ubuntu startup disk creator on ubuntu live CD?
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> yes
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> for ubuntu iso's
[00:45] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, i have no idea what that means
[00:45] <rannonga> just some windows crap from windows 8
[00:46] <CheckDavid_> This is incredibly frustrating.
[00:46] <rannonga> David, you finished burning the image yet?
[00:46] <CheckDavid_> I need to spend so many hours just to know if this will work, and the worsse is that it didn't.
[00:46] <CheckDavid_> It's creating the persistent file, which generally takes quite some time.
[00:46] <rannonga> David, k
[00:47] <rannonga> David, what happened when you booted into the usb?
[00:47] <energizer> http://www.imgur.com/XMNlQf9.jpeg
[00:47] <rannonga> energizer, wtf?
[00:47] <CheckDavid_> I am kinda of relying on faith for this to work. Could it be because I didn't format my drive before? =/
[00:47] <CheckDavid_> Bleh, maybe another failed attempt.
[00:47] <rannonga> nah it shouldn't be
[00:48] <rannonga> energizer, what was that?
[00:48] <energizer> rannonga: oh sorry wrong picture
[00:48] <energizer> lol
[00:48] <rannonga> lol
[00:48] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, so most probably it won't work again ?
[00:48] <rannonga> David, could you actually boot into the usb?
[00:48] <Manolillo_> Do you want to watch Online spanish Tv??? visit: www.refectori.com
[00:49] <energizer> when you said wtf i was worried id accidentally uploaded horseporn or something
[00:49] <rannonga> lol
[00:49] <pepper_chico> fuck, I want to develop in and for an ubuntu edge
[00:49] <IdleOne> pepper_chico: no swearing please
[00:49] <energizer> wilee-nilee: rannonga anyway heres gparted
[00:49] <energizer> http://www.imgur.com/152mNbC.jpeg
[00:50] <rannonga> so just click on the swap partition and delete it
[00:50] <energizer> k
[00:50] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, yes I can, but then it gives me kernel panic, or just gives in a screen saying ubuntu forever
[00:51] <rannonga> David, in your bios how are you booting into it?
[00:51] <CheckDavid_> well I chose to boot usb/cd-rom first
[00:51] <CheckDavid_> before anything else
[00:52] <CheckDavid_> yet it still isn't booting from there
[00:52] <rannonga> can you boot anything else from usb?
[00:52] <CheckDavid_> So I press escape while booting, and select boot devices, and boot from it.
[00:52] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, not sure, why? Didn't try.
[00:52] <pzoned> Would anybody have any guess as to why my computer turns on again after shutting down in ubuntu but not in windows?
[00:53] <rannonga> pzone, restart?
[00:53] <energizer> now what
[00:53] <pzoned> when i shut down it goes off for a second then turns back on
[00:53] <CheckDavid_> rannonga, that's all?= well i will get out then to try and run it
[00:53] <rannonga> ok
[00:53] <rannonga> energizer now create a new partition from you unallocated
[00:54] <rannonga> you should be able to select logical or primary select logical
[00:54] <energizer> what sort of "label" is should it have
[00:54] <energizer> oh
[00:54] <energizer> wait
[00:54] <lagreca> Hi folks, is ubuntu 13.04 as stable as 12.04 LTS for general purpose use?
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> A primary wont go in a extended
[00:54] <rannonga> yeah
[00:54] <energizer> rannonga: logical is grayed out
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> lagreca, Depends on your definition of stable, everyones is different.
[00:55] <energizer> so is extended
[00:55] <rannonga> thats weird
[00:55] <Aprel> lagreca: I've used both. It's fine. There was an audio issue over HDMI connections when it first came out, but has since been rectified.
[00:55] <rannonga> wilee, do you know how to create extended partitions from gparted?
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Did you run the swap delete?
[00:56] <energizer> no just queueueueueued it
[00:56] <lagreca> Aprel, is the new unity in ubuntu 13.04 better than in 12.04?
[00:56] <rannonga> what?
[00:56] <energizer> ill run it?
[00:56] <rannonga> oh yeah you should do that
[00:56] <rannonga> first
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> energizer, You have to run it then make the extended in all the unallocated then run it, don't stack up things to run.
[00:56] <energizer> ok ran it.
[00:57] <lagreca> Aprel, I'm having some issues with compiz, chrome and flash videos due to the mesa drivers version in 12.04
[00:57] <energizer> primary is available. logical and extended are both grayed out
[00:57] <Axelay> I'm going to say no iagreca. My 13.04 internet keeps cutting out. The signal seems fine, just any connections it has it cuts.
[00:57] <lagreca> Aprel, I know that it's ok now with the 13.04, but I'm afraid of LibreOffice 4
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Are you clicking in the unallocated in the picture and extended is grayed out?
[00:58] <Aprel> lagreca: Unity is no different to me. There was a lot of press when it came out because it phones home and gives online results, but I've turned that off.
[00:58] <energizer> ya
[00:58] <rannonga> thats weird
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Lets see a picture of that make sure we can see all of the picture.
[00:59] <NaStYdoG> does anyone know why after some time I log on ubuntu my /home folder is set to read-only
[01:00] <Aprel> lagreca: 13.04 might come with newer, updated video drivers. You can check if they resolve a problem you're having in compiz and flash/.
[01:00] <rannonga> pzone, still there?
[01:01] <lagreca> Aprel, I'd like to install some packages from the proposed repository... I'm too anxious to wait for the new raring compatibility stack
[01:01] <lagreca> Aprel, do you know how I can install just some selected packages from the proposed repository?
[01:01] <pzoned> yea
[01:02] <rannonga> what release are you on?
[01:02] <energizer> wilee-nilee: http://www.imgur.com/r9hFUsW.jpeg
[01:02] <pzoned> 13.04
[01:02] <pzoned> it started happening when i swapped my motherboard
[01:02] <pzoned> tried stock kernel and am on 3.10.1 right now
[01:02] <meatmanek> hey, does anybody know the netboot images are built (i.e. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/13.04/ )
[01:02] <rannonga> pzone, are you sure you can got from windows?
[01:03] <rannonga> pzone, do it from windows?
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Should not be that way reboot to ubuntu and lets try the gparted there.
[01:03] <pzoned> yeah, shutdown and restart works regularly in windows
[01:03] <rannonga> pzoned, so what exactly happens?
[01:03] <Aprel> lagreca: I've never done that, but this ubuntu guide should get you on your way. Just adjust references to precise to ringtail https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[01:04] <energizer> wilee-nilee: i dont really know what ext4 means but it occurs to me that i might be trying to make a second extension to the first fat32 partition, which is illegal. possible?
[01:04] <pzoned> the shutdown command turns it off for a second, but then it boots back up again. I tried playing around with my power management settings in my bios but they don't seem to help.
[01:05] <curatrix> shutdown -h now
[01:05] <rannonga> yeah try that
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Is sda a windows 8 setup?
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> the sdaHD
[01:06] <energizer> no its a media drive (movies etc)
[01:06] <energizer> no os on it
[01:06] <rannonga> wilee, i'm running a dual boot on windows 8
[01:07] <curatrix> pzoned: it is probably the "wake on lan" function
[01:07] <energizer> mounted in /media/something
[01:07] <rannonga> energizer, do you have a backup?
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> energizer, The fat32 is a primary, from the last picture it looks like you have chosen the unallocated and the extended is grayed out. YOU would make a extended then put the ext4 inside it and the swap as well.
[01:07] <energizer> rannonga: no
[01:08] <rannonga> David, any success?
[01:09] <pzoned> yeah, my machine still turns back on after shutdown -h now
[01:09] <CheckDavid> Argh, why won't Ubuntu work? =/ It always gets stuck on the logo screen while trying to boot it. Apparently it is a Kernel Panic
[01:09] <energizer> wilee-nilee: i dont totally understand what you just said
[01:09] <CheckDavid> whatever that is or means =/
[01:09] <razzledazzle> unetbootin doesn't seem to be working with a Pentium 3 machine, can it be investigated?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> energizer, No prob, which part or all?
[01:09] <energizer> all
[01:09] <Axelay> Can anyone explain why 13.04 cuts the internet in intervals? The wireless is connected fine, but it doesnt not go to any website.
[01:10] <Axelay> Say I'm watching a 1 hour long youtube video
[01:10] <Axelay> It stops about every 25mins or so
[01:10] <rannonga> razzle, what do you mean, how doesn't it work?
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> energizer, So you suggest that the extended we want is a second one to the fat32, however the fat 32 is called a primary partition, primaries, extended ans logicals are three different types.
[01:10] <razzledazzleII> got disconnected
[01:11] <Aprel> Axelay: have you been able to verify it's a problem with ubuntu, not the modem or router?
[01:11] <CheckDavid> Any clue? =/
[01:11] <pzoned> Axelay, I have a wifi card in one machine that will cut out regularly
[01:11] <Axelay> Yes, it doesnt happen with any other windows systems
[01:11] <pzoned> probably just shoddy drivers
[01:11] <razzledazzleII> well, on the boot device select, I select my USB drive, nothing happens, PC continues to boot with HD
[01:11] <rannonga> Check, try using unetbootin
[01:11] <Axelay> Including the one I'm typing off now.
[01:11] <energizer> wilee-nilee: and you're saying the sdb2 ext4 is also a primary?
[01:11] <curatrix> pzoned: Look for "wake on lan" in the bios. It could be the cmos has an error so it might even be worth "reset to default" in the bios as well (just for the sake of it)
[01:11] <CheckDavid> rannonga, I did twice lol
[01:12] <Axelay> The thing is the netbook is dualbooted with windows and ubuntu. only happens with ubuntu
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> energizer, That make sense, I know it can be confusing. I have seen gparted cough on occasion, so that is why I suggest using ubuntu's or at least a reboot of that one.
[01:12] <razzledazzleII> is my chat visible? :\
[01:12] <rannonga> that sounds bad
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Yes sdb2 is a primary as well.
[01:12] <rannonga> razzle, i can't see you
[01:12] <rannonga> razzle, what do you mean by disconnected?
[01:12] <pzoned> curatrix, yeah i've updated and reset my bios twice now, but i'll try disable WoL. Though unfortunately i do use it on occasion.
[01:12] <Axelay> I'm the only ubuntu system that connects to the router, and is the only one that it occurs to
[01:12] <rannonga> i would suggest to download the file seperately from creating a live usb
[01:13] <CheckDavid> I tried twice with unetbootin, then I was told to use Universal USB installer, none worked. I get stuck with kernel panic messages that I only see because I press ctrl alt f1 rannonga
[01:13] <razzledazzleII> no I mean, my other nick got disconnected
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> razzledazzleII, If you see it we do.
[01:13] <CheckDavid> rannonga, what do you mean by download file seperately?
[01:13] <razzledazzleII> ah, good, this nick is not registered so I was wondering
[01:13] <curatrix> pzoned: You could cheat to test it and just remove the cable before shutting the system down
[01:14] <energizer> wilee-nilee: rannonga same situation in ubuntu gparted
[01:14] <Ben64> CheckDavid: what are you trying to do
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Hold on let me reboot from W8 to 13.04, I think you are just not doing something correct, I can look at goarted from there.
[01:15] <CheckDavid> Ben64 run Ubuntu, as simple as that.
[01:15] <Ben64> CheckDavid: how
[01:15] <CheckDavid> Ben64 No idea, tried many thigns none worked, nwo I don't know what to do.
[01:15] <CheckDavid> So, I am doing nothing =/
[01:15] <razzledazzle> my Ubuntu had got stuck on splash once, it happened I messed around while installing fglrx driver
[01:15] <Ben64> CheckDavid: you were talking about vbox before, now you're saying usb, what are you trying to do???
[01:15] <rannonga> ben, it always seems to say kernel panic
[01:15] <CheckDavid> I am just reporting how my last attempted was another failed one.
[01:15] <CheckDavid> CheckDavid> Ben64 run Ubuntu, as simple as that
[01:16] <Ben64> run how!? in vbox?! natively?! explain!!
[01:16] <CheckDavid> Run man. I just want to run.
[01:16] <rannonga> every way possible apparently
[01:16] <CheckDavid> I just want one. I tried all suggestions.
[01:16] <Ben64> if you don't want help thats fine
[01:16] <CheckDavid> Eh ok
[01:16] <razzledazzle> wubi?
[01:16] <CheckDavid> People don't understand that I just want ro run ubuntu :(
[01:17] <energizer1> welcome back
[01:17] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, how are you trying to boot it?
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> energizer, I'm back
[01:17] <Ben64> you need to explain how you want to "run ubuntu"
[01:17] <energizer1> im now back in ubuntu as well (from gparted)
[01:17] <energizer1> http://imgur.com/6jdZRX4
[01:17] <Ben64> its not like photoshop, you can't just "run it"
[01:17] <luwho> installing ubuntu server 12.04lts for first time.  I blanked on installing extras like securessh and wamp.  Will I be able to download all of them at once when installation is complete or will I have to download each one individually?
[01:17] <curatrix> CheckDavid: Have you got a flash drive with a live image?
[01:17] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, I already said I am not trying in any way now, I tried a bunc of ways already today none worked, wanna know about all, or just the last one?
[01:18] <CheckDavid> curatrix, yes I do.
[01:18] <curatrix> What happens when you run it?
[01:18] <razzledazzle> what kind of config are you using? what's your system spec?
[01:18] <CheckDavid> Kernel Panic curatrix
[01:18] <razzledazzle> he said it gets stuck in splash
[01:18] <Axelay> Can I reiterate my internet problem. Only ubuntu 13.04 does this: It cuts the internet at random periods. Give it about a minute and it works again
[01:18] <curatrix> CheckDavid: 32 or 64 bit?
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> energizer, I see what is up now in the create as in the new set it as extended.
[01:18] <CheckDavid> curatrix, I am 64
[01:18] <pzoned> curatrix yeah, turning off WoL solves the issue. Is there any other workaround you know of that would let me keep WoL enabled?
[01:18] <Axelay> Give it half a hour and it stops working again
[01:19] <Ben64> if the usb isn't working, its probably a bad image or a bad copy to usb
[01:19] <Axelay> This is worst when I'm watching a video over 1 hour
[01:19] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: sorry?
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> energizer, YOu were trying to build with the line below file type
[01:19] <CheckDavid> I tried Wubi. then I tried 32 bit with Unetbootin, then I tried 32 bit with Universal USB isntaller, then I tried 64 bit with USB installer, then I tried Vbox. All have problems.
[01:19] <luwho> installing ubuntu server 12.04lts for first time.  I blanked on installing extras like securessh and wamp.  Will I be able to download all of them at once when installation is complete or will I have to download each one individually?
[01:19] <razzledazzle> even Vbox?
[01:20] <energizer1> so how to do it properly?
[01:20] <Ben64> sounds like user error or bad disc image
[01:20] <curatrix> pzoned: You could get a cheap switch to install next to the PC......turn it off prior to the PC and it will act like a buffer
[01:20] <razzledazzle> maybe try another distro or something CheckDavid
[01:20] <napsc> Axelay: look in your syslog to get an idea of why it's disconnecting... does it do it hardwired?
[01:20] <CheckDavid> Yeah, vbox would just load TTY, and then when I tried some command that was given to me, it would stop accepting any further commands. Sort of crash.
[01:20] <pzoned> CheckDavid , I generally have had good luck with LiLi http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[01:20] <curatrix> pzoned: switch = router
[01:20] <pzoned> curatrix, hmm... thanks for your help!
[01:20] <CheckDavid> It's so hard to judge between all the suggeestions =/
[01:20] <Axelay> napsc: nah it does it when wireless
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> energizer, http://imagebin.org/265446
[01:21] <Axelay> And is the only wireless device to do it
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> energizer, YOu want it as it shows there
[01:21] <Aprel> luwho: afaik there's no single-package install in ubuntu, but you could probabl find a list of all the packages the cd installs and just sudo apt-get install `the list`
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Create as not file tyoe.
[01:21] <Axelay> Tbh it has started when I upgraded to 13.04
[01:21] <luwho> Aprel: Ya thats probably what ill do, thank you
[01:21] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, if you have a good internet connect, its not much of a deal, you could try another distro
[01:21] <razzledazzle> *connection
[01:21] <Aprel> luwho: np
[01:21] <curatrix> afk
[01:22] <CheckDavid> It takes so much time to boot stuff up that don't load =/
[01:22] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, go for Linux Mint, just to test
[01:22] <energizer1> i dont know how to get it like that
[01:22] <CheckDavid> I already tried 2 USB iso installers.
[01:22] <Axelay> napsc What command do I do to get that?
[01:22] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, maybe I should do that.
[01:23] <razzledazzle> yes CheckDavid, give it a go. Its Ubuntu based, AFAIK.
[01:23] <Ben64> not supported here
[01:23] <napsc> cat /var/log/syslog
[01:23] <curatrix> CheckDavid: Get a SSD. My system boots in <10 seconds
[01:23] <CheckDavid> Maybe a new laptop you mean curatrix ?
[01:23] <rannonga> energizer, try making the filetype as ext4 first
[01:23] <ItsMeLenny> i got an email from ubuntu forums, but i dont even remember signing up to ubuntu forums in the first place
[01:24] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: rannonga: doesnt work
[01:24] <rickb__> hello.. so i have a dell xps with intel audio and an nvidia gfx card, i have no audio devices when i look in system settings but i can manipulate alsamixer and change the volume. i have no audio via HDMI though. any ideas?
[01:24] <rannonga> energizer, what doesn't?
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, Show me a picture again of what you are doing I lost what you had, did you look at mine?
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> rannonga, Dude I can I take care of this.
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> can I
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> to many irons in a simple fire
[01:26] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: http://imgur.com/2Sp1Odi
[01:26] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, so trying ubuntu 13 is not a good bet either? Because I already started downloading.
[01:26] <energizer1> the logical and extended are still grayed out (ubuntu apparently wont take a screenshot when theres a drop-down open)
[01:26] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, if its already half way, try it. It works better on my netbook than 12.
[01:26] <sandprickle> I changed my password, forgot it, changed it back via. Root shell prompt, but am I still screwed if I use ecryptfs?
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, The top line where it says primary should be extended the file type is not even relevent at this stage.
[01:27] <Aprel> rickb__: click on the speaker in the upper right corner of ubuntu. Click 'Sound Settings...', look for other options in 'play sound through' particularly hdmi
[01:27] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, linuxmint site not loading for me. :|
[01:27] <EatAtJoes> If I donate $20 to ubuntu edge, what do I actually get in return ?
[01:27] <CheckDavid> Aw
[01:27] <CheckDavid> I will be honest. I just need a console instance.
[01:27] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: when i click on the drop-down to change from primary to extended, extended is grayed out
[01:28] <caaakeeey> basic question, but im running from a usb, where can i find my hard drive?
[01:28] <razzledazzle> EatAtJoes, you expect to get something by "donating"?
[01:28] <CheckDavid> But I would like to switch to linux too. But the console isntance is what I really need. And I will stay up tonight till if I get it if I need to.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, IN the top line where it says create as extended is grayed out?
[01:29] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, then you could try many distros out there, there's CrunchBang, or even lighter versions might download fast like Puppy Linux
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> create as energizer
[01:29] <energizer1> wilee yes
[01:29] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, I used to go with puppy many years ago, but then they stopped working on my new HP, so I quit.
[01:30] <EatAtJoes> razzledazzle: So you donate to them, so they can get free phones, and then they sell them and make a profit?
[01:30] <energizer1> "primary partition" black
[01:30] <energizer1> "logical partition" gray
[01:30] <energizer1> "extended partition" gray
[01:30] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, hmm.. I didn't like that feel of Puppy though, I suggested just because you said you wanted a console instance.
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, Close that window and show me just gparted,
[01:31] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: http://imgur.com/uoib6AD
[01:31] <EatAtJoes> razzledazzle: It would be cool if I could get a return like an investor, but man, I do want this edge phone to take off.
[01:31] <razzledazzle> EatAtJoes, no idea XD I only know when you donate, you don't ask for anything in return
[01:31] <meatmanek> I asked this a few minutes ago but nobody answered; trying again in the hopes that someone new knows the answer
[01:32] <meatmanek> does anybody know the netboot images are built (i.e. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/13.04/ )
[01:32] <razzledazzle> EatAtJoes, that would be awesome.
[01:32] <Axelay> So does anyone have any idea why my ubuntu keeps cutting the internet at random intervals. It only happens on this ubuntu computer. All over 4 windows devices work fine.
[01:32] <EatAtJoes> razzledazzle,  sorry. I really didn't know it was a donation when I first asked.
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, OKay now I'm seeing efi in sdb1 a efi does not use extended partitions just put the ext4 in and your swap, and when you install the linux you will point the install to that ext4
[01:32] <razzledazzle> EatAtJoes, I approached you without any idea myself, just considered what donation meant to me.
[01:33] <hewhomust> meat, why do you specifically want to do a netboot install?
[01:33] <meatmanek> we install our servers using netboot
[01:33] <hewhomust> oh
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, I asked about W8 moriginally due to uefi a gpt partitioning set up I wondered about that.
[01:34] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, so the official linuxmint is not online you say?
[01:34] <energizer1> ok so what do i do wilee-nilee
[01:35] <meatmanek> we're actually using 10.04 (upgrading to something newer is on the horizon but not in short-term plans), and the 10.04 netboot image has an old kernel and kernel modules which don't support aacraid 7xxx series cards
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, This an apple computer, or did you use a efi on purpose, I'm not really familiar with efi and gpt, and it looks funky there to me altogether.
[01:35] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, not loading for me, have you tried? http://www.linuxmint.com/
[01:35] <CheckDavid> Yes it loads for me
[01:36] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, i was advised to go for linuxmint MATE
[01:36] <CheckDavid> What do you say razzledazzle ?
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, I'm curious about sdb1 being labeled as /boot/efi
[01:36] <razzledazzle> that's good then.
[01:36] <meatmanek> I've figured out how to extract the netboot image (it's just an initrd) and rebuild it, but it seems like it may be more than just a matter of replacing the kernel and modules
[01:36] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, I think MATE is a desktop environment, you're doing this for the console so I don't think it would matter much, its decent anyway.
[01:37] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, no, I also want linux
[01:37] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: not apple, newegg hardware; installed ubuntu with the gui as recommended
[01:37] <arash> Is the any simple way that let me connect to my l2tp vpn on my win2003 server ?
[01:37] <Morph4me> wilee-nilee /boot/efi create by 1 manually or 2 by ubuntu on a UEFI BIOS machine
[01:37] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, I was just saying that I really needed the console
[01:38] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, you could see this: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=135464. This page not loading for me either, I have a sucky net connection lol
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, a fat32 with /boot/efi is rather strange, it would not be part of a standard install, are we missing some info here like as Morph4me suggests a uefi bios machine a safe boot.
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> Morph4me, I know that but thanks.
[01:38] <arash> oh I se
[01:38] <Morph4me> yw
[01:39] <arash> there are plugins for network manager
[01:39] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, personally I tried cinnamon, it worked fine for me.
[01:39] <CheckDavid> Thnaks, I will try MATE
[01:39] <CheckDavid> AS I was suggested earlier.
[01:39] <bkfitz> .
[01:40] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, all the best :D
[01:40] <bkfitz> Anyone here that can help me get a wireless printer setup
[01:40] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, do you know why there are no codecs versions for companies?
[01:40] <bkfitz> I've installed the recommended deb driver and went to add network printer, it finds it, then I hit add and it just sits there
[01:41] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, companies? I only know about video/audio codes
[01:41] <razzledazzle> *codecs
[01:41] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: its a fancy bios on a Gigabyte motherboard, i dont know anything about "safe boot"..
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, Did you buy this machine new and if so what was on it?
[01:42] <energizer1> built it
[01:42] <energizer1> with new parts
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, Ah cool well you bought a machine that use a different bios, no biggie it just means building partitions is a bit different. So what is the other OS you want to install.
[01:43] <Morph4me> gpt is not limited as mbr is in creating primary partitions ...all primary in screen shot > http://i.imgur.com/v6CynqE.png
[01:43] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: arch
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> Morph4me, If you know what is up here go for it I have not messed eith uefi and gpt, seems like just a ext4 and swap is needed.
[01:44] <Guest24339> Linux n00b here....having issues with restarting my comp, it says I'm not authorized to shut my comp down...???
[01:45] <hewhomust> guest, try running sudo reboot from terminal
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, Excellent choice, I think Morph4me may be better at this part.
[01:45] <curatrix> Guest24339: sudo shutdown -r now
[01:45] <hewhomust> he wants to restart
[01:45] <curatrix> hewhomust: Yes thats right    the -r switch sets it to restart
[01:45] <Guest24339> Yeah, I did a bunch of updates, and it won't let me restart
[01:45] <curatrix> Guest24339: sudo shutdown -r now
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, We just want to be sure arch is set to install in  your setup, probably is.
[01:46] <Morph4me> well all i,m saying wilee is that he can leave it as is "primary" no need for extended because his uefi bios is using gpt rules not mbr
[01:46] <matrixa1> http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4082556 this needs to happen
[01:46] <Guest24339> Sorry....how do I do -r?
[01:46] <hewhomust> lol
[01:46] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: alright. is there any reason i shouldnt just make another primary and another linux-swap ?
[01:46] <hewhomust> type -r
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> Morph4me, Yeah I figured that I just want to be sure is all, thanks.
[01:47] <Morph4me> otherwise plz do carry on with him i must check out everything else is A OK
[01:47] <razzledazzle> Guest24339, are you able to access the terminal?
[01:47] <Guest24339> oh, on the command line?  LOL  (yes, very n00b)
[01:47] <Morph4me> yw good night
[01:47] <razzledazzle> Guest24339, yep ;D
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, No that is what to do, sorry for any confusion, it just took us awhile to get to this being the setup it is.
[01:47] <curatrix> Guest24339: You can paste into the terminal with ctrl + shft + v
[01:47] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, never mind, you have to read the website to understand lol
[01:48] <hewhomust> energ, the only problem is that you're limited to 4 primarys on mbr
[01:48] <hewhomust> which doesnt apply to you
[01:48] <energizer1> so im confused myself. why do i have all these partitions?
[01:48] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, lol okay
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, That fat32 was a redflag I saw but did not ask about it I missed any /boot/efi if it was showing in the live gparted, I don't think it was.
[01:49] <energizer1> what's the point of it? do i need it?
[01:49] <scott__> So, I just tried the -r thing, and it said "Command not found"
[01:49] <hewhomust> try sudo reboot quickly
[01:50] <curatrix> scott__:  sudo shutdown -r now
[01:50] <curatrix> enter your password for admin and it should reboot
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, Not sure, but if you look at morph4me's set up which is basically what you have he has one.
[01:50] <scott__> I type in "sudo shutdown"?
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, I believe it is needed, I'm just not up on that stuff.
[01:50] <energizer1> morph4me is gone...
[01:51] <scott__> "sudo reboot" I mean
[01:51] <energizer1> :(
[01:51] <matrixa1> scott__, except that turns off the computer
[01:51] <matrixa1> yes, sudo reboot
[01:51] <scott__> k....brb
[01:51] <hewhomust> energizer, just try creating primary partition for swap and root
[01:52] <hewhomust> then try mount them in the arch install
[01:52] <crankygeek> hello room
[01:52] <hewhomust> hello greek
[01:52] <roobis> when does a drive require mounting?
[01:53] <roobis> my flash drive appears without mount command
[01:53] <matrixa1> roobis, automount is run upon insertion
[01:53] <hewhomust> roobis, if you can access your flash drive dont do anything
[01:53] <scott__> sudo reboot worked....thx for the assist everyone
[01:54] <hewhomust> np lol how are you still here?
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> energizer, So really do nothing and go to #archlinux and let them see the last image and know that you have a uefi set up and they can best help you install.
[01:54] <roobis> so mount is only used if the drive isnt' auto detected?
[01:54] <hewhomust> yeah
[01:54] <matrixa1> roobis, but if you have several drives like me, then you might have to mount them separately to view the contents
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> energizer, WE got you to the install stage, they will know whats up in your setup for success. ;)
[01:54] <roobis> ok, so plugging a second usb would require mount
[01:54] <scott__> Guess I'm just quick like that...LOL
[01:55] <matrixa1> roobis, no, usb peripherals are automounted
[01:55] <hewhomust> no probably not
[01:55] <hewhomust> just if you have another partition you might have to mount it
[01:55] <matrixa1> roobis, stationary harddrives eg. windows partitions are not automounted
[01:55] <hewhomust> say on another os
[01:55] <energizer1> wilee-nilee: at the moment i dont have a swap partition. should i make an arch partition and then a swap partition before going over there?
[01:55] <hewhomust> yeah you should makes it easier
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> energizer, I wouldn't building partitions are part of the install in arch.
[01:56] <hewhomust> i've done it and made a swap partition seperately
[01:56] <hewhomust> beforehand
[01:56] <energizer1> (but my ubuntu doesnt have access to a swap paritition. isnt that shitty?)
[01:57] <CheckDavid> lol my linuxmint download just stopped =/
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> energizer1, You only need one swap arch will build it.
[01:57] <hewhomust> not really just mount it as a swap for both distros
[01:57] <hewhomust> sorry not mount it
[01:58] <hewhomust> but yeah it should work for both
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Heh, and if you thought this was confusing a arch install will really be a challenge, it is a bit easier now, but it has its pitfalls.
[01:59] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, I was downloading linuxmint, and apparently it stopped as if it was completed, I got a normal iso in the end, only very small, like 40 Mbs
[01:59] <energizer1> ok so if i go into the arch people, they'll help me produce a partition for arch and another for swap (which will be applicable to both arch and ubuntu). how do i make ubuntu access the swap partition that i make over there
[01:59] <razzledazzle> CheckDavid, that's invalid. It has to be around 700 megs
[01:59] <CheckDavid> razzledazzle, it's actually 1 GB =/
[01:59] <Jeeves_Moss> is anoyne in here any good with Nagios?  I'm having some config issues
[01:59] <hewhomust> energizer, a swap partition is not mounted if you create it it should work for both
[01:59] <razzledazzle> lol
[02:00] <razzledazzle> maybe torrent it
[02:00] <PRabyte> sad news i just saw
[02:00] <PRabyte> sure you are all aware of it
[02:00] <PRabyte> while trying to get some help from forums.... well you know the rest
[02:01] <Jeeves_Moss> razzledazzle, and ideas on this Nagios issue?
[02:01] <PRabyte> so did anyone claim responsibility yet ?
[02:02] <razzledazzle> oops,its 928 MB
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> energizer, The arch guys should get you going fine, The only reason I build partitions ahead of time instead of in a install is when I install windows and don't want a boot partition, and I manually install to that made NTFS.
[02:02] <cfhowlett> PRabyte, yes ... it's old news now.  But if you wish to continue this thread, please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks.
[02:02] <PRabyte> anyone know how to create an xfs on linux. so i can grab this data off my attached usb ide drive??
[02:03] <PRabyte> :|
[02:03] <PRabyte> no thanks cfhowlett ill pass
[02:03] <syn-ack> PRabyte: use gparted.
[02:03] <razzledazzle> Jeeves_Moss, seeing it for the first time o.o sorry
[02:03] <cfhowlett> !gparted|PRabyte,
[02:04] <Phosphate_> I've got a 12.10 server that I had to replace the motherboard on. It won't see the new built in NIC (Atheros AR 8161). The nic shows up on lspci -vv and if I boot a clean install on a USB drive the nic works fine. I've deleted /etc/udev/rules.d70-persistent-net.rules but a reboot did not generate a new one. I then copied the rules file from the clean boot to the original instance and it still
[02:04] <Jeeves_Moss> razzledazzle, no worries.  I'm using nConf to try to reduce the admin load, but I can't get the syntax on the args for it
[02:04] <Phosphate_> doesnt show up in ifconfig. Any ideas?
[02:04] <PRabyte> thanks, duh, i forgot, but i was thinking of cmdline utils like xfutils or something along those lines
[02:04] <syn-ack> Phosphate_: modprobe the driver
[02:04] <syn-ack> ar something or another
[02:05] <razzledazzle> Jeeves_Moss, sounds intriguing! I hope you find your solution soon.
[02:05] <Phosphate_> syn-ack: Thanks will check it.
[02:05] <syn-ack> Phosphate_: I forget the module's name. you'll be able to find it via ar8161 linux module online
[02:07] <PRabyte> cfhowlett: yah, just what i thought, didn't see the drive.
[02:07] <PRabyte> gparted i mean
[02:07] <PRabyte> shrugs
[02:07] <Phosphate_> syn-ack ath9k maybe?
[02:07] <PRabyte> anyone know how to create an xfs on linux. so i can grab this data off my attached usb ide drive??
[02:07] <syn-ack> Phosphate_: Sounds about right. Try it. if it doesn't work, the kernel will tell ya.
[02:08] <PRabyte> think ill try #linux
[02:08] <PRabyte> gparted doesnt see it
[02:08] <syn-ack> PRabyte: I told you how.
[02:08] <PRabyte> opps
[02:08] <PRabyte> sorry syn-ack ill look up
[02:09] <PRabyte> syn-ack: i answered
[02:09] <syn-ack> did you install xfstools?
[02:09] <energizer1> thanks for everythingwilee-nilee
[02:09] <PRabyte> not yet
[02:09] <PRabyte> brb
[02:09] <syn-ack> it may not be installed, PRabyte.
[02:09] <PRabyte> i thought i t was called xfsutils lol
[02:10] <syn-ack> Samething
[02:10] <syn-ack> I think
[02:10] <PRabyte> i dont have that in my repo syn-ack
[02:10] <PRabyte> xfstoos
[02:10] <PRabyte> xfstools
[02:10] <PRabyte> anyone know how to create an xfs on linux. so i can grab this data off my attached usb ide drive??
[02:10] <PRabyte> sudo apt-get install xfs
[02:10] <PRabyte> xfs              xfslibs-dev      xfstt
[02:10] <PRabyte> xfsdump          xfsprogs         xfswitch-plugin
[02:10] <PRabyte> thats all i have
[02:10] <syn-ack> last I remember, it was that. haven't created an XFS partition in years
[02:10] <syn-ack> xfsprogs is it
[02:11] <PRabyte> i do often in freebsd, but this is linux laptop
[02:11] <PRabyte> oh ok
[02:11] <PRabyte> thanks
[02:11] <histo> !find xfs | PRabyte
[02:12] <PRabyte> think i need a reboot after installing xfsprogs, lsusb isnt showing the attached drive
[02:12] <histo> PRabyte: the drive showing in lsusb has nothing to do with xfsprogs
[02:12] <PRabyte> histo: thats nice, thanks
[02:12] <PRabyte> so, think i need a reboot, for xfsprogs to work and see this drive?
[02:12] <histo> PRabyte: try looking at the output of dmesg after you plug the drive in
[02:12] <PRabyte> ah. thanks
[02:12] <PRabyte> brb
[02:12] <syn-ack> PRabyte: you shouldn't need to reboot for anything
[02:13] <PRabyte> sorry been working on hpux for a few months a work, has me off gaurd
[02:15] <syn-ack> PRabyte: remember, a Good UNIX admin should make a great linux admin, but usually not the other way around.
[02:15] <PRabyte> whatever makes you look good syn-ack
[02:15] <syn-ack> I never claimed to be a good UNIX admin.
[02:15] <syn-ack> :D
[02:16] <napsc> Jeeves_Moss: did you try #nagios
[02:16] <roobis> how big does a company have to be to need an admin?
[02:16] <PRabyte> i guess i should also mention i havent looked much at a terminal other than powerterm on a doze box. cant have my linux laptop connected to the network yet
[02:16] <syn-ack> roobis: All it takes is one computer.
[02:16] <PRabyte> no tab completion is crazy
[02:17] <roobis> syn-ack, ha, a one pc admin?
[02:17] <syn-ack> yep
[02:18] <sam113101> guys
[02:18] <napsc> nah, 1 employee & 2 computers...
[02:18] <sam113101> I need help
[02:19] <cfhowlett> !details|sam
[02:19] <PRabyte> if anyone cares to take a peek   paste.ubuntu.com/5906141/
[02:19] <sam113101> the font used by gtk 2 is not the same as the font used by gtk 3
[02:19] <curatrix> sam113101: You can change it if you like
[02:20] <sam113101> curatrix: how?
[02:20] <histo> PRabyte: so sdb is your usb drive I take it and sdb1 is the partition?
[02:20] <PRabyte> sounds right
[02:20] <PRabyte> its from freebsd server
[02:20] <syn-ack> Wait
[02:20] <PRabyte> so xfsprogs,,,
[02:21] <PRabyte> oh ok
[02:21] <syn-ack> You're running XFS on FreeBSD?
[02:21] <PRabyte> waits...
[02:21] <syn-ack> surely you mean ZFS....
[02:21] <PRabyte> it was yes, this is an adapter ide cable to drive to usb to laptop, linux
[02:21] <PRabyte> nope
[02:21] <PRabyte> xfs
[02:21] <PRabyte> havent decided to migrate to zfs yet
[02:22] <histo> PRabyte: is this a 2TB external?
[02:22] <syn-ack> ok well, install xfsprogs and use gparted to create an XFS parition, copy info, profit.
[02:22] <Awaken> not UFS then, the standard freebsd filesystem ?
[02:22] <PRabyte> that the other drive, that works fine
[02:22] <syn-ack> Awaken: yeah, something seems.... odd
[02:22] <PRabyte> like i said, tis not seeing drive, neither is gparted
[02:22] <PRabyte> so... lets talk about xfsprogs
[02:24] <syn-ack> ok
[02:24] <syn-ack> it's not seeing the block device at all?
[02:24] <syn-ack> Can you pull it up in lspci?
[02:24] <PRabyte> scratch balls, i think i said that before didnt i?
[02:24] <PRabyte> nope
[02:24] <PRabyte> notta
[02:24] <histo> PRabyte: unplug the drive then.. sudo dmesg -C  to clear the log then plug the drive in and pastebin the output of dmesg
[02:24] <PRabyte> like a said
[02:24] <FloodBot1> PRabyte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <PRabyte> ah ok. thanks ill try that
[02:24] <syn-ack> what histo said
[02:24] <varunendra> PRabyte, do you see the drive in BIOS?
[02:24] <PRabyte> nothing when i removed usb cable in dmesg
[02:24] <syn-ack> or even tail -f /var/log/syslog
[02:24] <syn-ack> PRabyte: Try a different cable, then
[02:24] <PRabyte> same when plugged in
[02:24] <PRabyte> ill recheck the cables
[02:24] <PRabyte> sb
[02:24] <sam113101> the font used by gtk 2 is not the same as the font used by gtk 3
[02:25] <histo> PRabyte: remove drive; sudo dmesg -C ; plug in drive; pastebinit dmesg
[02:25] <histo> sam113101: check your appearence options
[02:25] <varunendra> PRabyte, any connected drive has to be recognised by the BIOS first. If it's not appearing there, it's a hardware issue.
[02:25] <sam113101> histo: there's nothing font-related there
[02:26] <histo> sam113101: sorry theme options
[02:26] <histo> varunendra: it's a usb drive don't confuse him at this point
[02:26] <sam113101> histo: where's that?
[02:28] <syn-ack> was just about to tell him that, histo. Thanks.
[02:28] <syn-ack> varunendra: that is why I told him to change cables, though
[02:28] <PRabyte> cables good, still no dmesg
[02:28] <varunendra> histo, okay. But you know that's right.
[02:28] <PRabyte> drive is spinning
[02:29] <syn-ack> I thought he was just having issuse not seeing the file system, not the entire block device.
[02:29] <histo> PRabyte: did you plug the drive back in after clearing dmesg?
[02:29] <PRabyte> no loud noticed or skips coming from ide drive
[02:29] <PRabyte> histo: no dmesg about it
[02:29] <PRabyte> like i said
[02:29] <histo> PRabyte: did you plug the drive back in after clearing dmesg?
[02:29] <histo> PRabyte: you have to cycle the plug or there will be no output in dmesg
[02:30] <zudge> guys
[02:30] <syn-ack> PRabyte: unplug the drive, from the console, do this tail -f /var/log/syslog and then plug the drive in.
[02:30] <PRabyte> histo: do you know how to use xfsprogs or mkfs.xfs
[02:30] <zudge> i copied my home folder to /storage
[02:30] <PRabyte> y/n
[02:30] <zudge> fstab
[02:30] <zudge>  /storage/zudge                            /home/zudge     ext4         defaults,bind     0       0
[02:30] <syn-ack> it's the same thing histo wants, but only different
[02:30] <histo> PRabyte: yes if we could reliably determine what dev it is but without you following basic instructions that's rather difficult
[02:31] <zudge> its not mounting correctly
[02:31] <syn-ack> zudge: because your fstab isn't right
[02:31] <histo> zudge: what is /storage another mounted device?
[02:31] <zudge> histo: yes its another parition.  it is mounted correctly.
[02:31] <syn-ack> ah
[02:32] <PRabyte> kinda wondered why syn-ack suggested i use dmesg...
[02:32] <zudge> i'm also mounting the home folder after
[02:32] <PRabyte> im in syslog
[02:32] <PRabyte> brb
[02:32] <histo> zudge: is storage mounted previous to that bind mount?
[02:32] <syn-ack> PRabyte: because it's the same thing, perhaps?
[02:33] <zudge> any suggestions for my fstab?  i've done this before.  no idea why its not working
[02:33] <alumno_> hi
[02:33] <PRabyte> nothing in tail -f syslog
[02:33] <syn-ack> ugh
[02:33] <syn-ack> nm, PRabyte
[02:33] <histo> PRabyte: then your computer is not seeing the drive
[02:33] <PRabyte> histo: do you know how to use xfsprogs or mkfs.xfs
[02:33] <histo> PRabyte: yes
[02:34] <syn-ack> PRabyte: you're not going to be using either of those if you can't see the block device.
[02:34] <syn-ack> PRabyte: Figure out WHY your computer isn't seeing it. That's the first half of the battle.
[02:34] <usr13> zudge: /storage/zudge is device name?
[02:35] <syn-ack> usr13: yeah, because it's a mounted device he's binding.
[02:35] <histo> usr13: he's trying to bind mount
[02:35] <zudge> usr13:  its a copy of my home folder
[02:35] <PRabyte> tried mucking with jumpers, still nothing in dmesg or syslog
[02:35] <syn-ack> that's what threw me off at first too
[02:35] <PRabyte> mkfs.xfs
[02:35] <usr13> zudge: So why not just a symlink?
[02:35] <zudge> usr13: i booted to terminal mode and used  'sudo cp -a /home/zudge /storage/zudge'
[02:35] <PRabyte> dmesg
[02:35] <PRabyte> [ 4635.264407] i2c i2c-5: sendbytes: NAK bailout.
[02:36] <zudge> usr13: if you could help me set that up i'm fine with using it, but ive just used this method in the past
[02:36] <syn-ack> usr13: that's a pretty good idea. Heck of a lot easier to do than binding
[02:36] <PRabyte> honestly, i think had you guys know you would have just said, but as usual, its not the case, nevermind i will figure it out. i was feeling lazy... l8
[02:36] <histo> pr0gu1ka: it's very simple mkfs.xfs /dev/or/your/stupid/usb that you don't know
[02:37] <syn-ack> histo: he's gone
[02:37] <histo> ahh well
[02:37] <syn-ack> No love lost, imo
[02:37] <histo> I'll tell him in the other channel he's been pestering people
[02:37] <histo> ahh well left there as well.
[02:37] <syn-ack> Some people. ignorant AND ungrateful. sigh
[02:37] <syn-ack> I hate saying that, too
[02:37] <usr13> zudge: ln -s /storage/zudge /home/zudge
[02:37] <histo> zudge: So what is happening it's not mounted or your user doesn't have access to it?
[02:38] <syn-ack> usr13: heck, he could also use the inode and hardlink, as well
[02:38] <zudge> histo: it just mounts the home folder still located in /home/zudge.  i copied it instead of moving it
[02:38] <syn-ack> hard link would be a little bit better of a choice in this case, I think
[02:38] <histo> zudge: pastebin the output of mount after boot
[02:39] <usr13> zudge:  But wait.  Is /home/zudge your home directory?
[02:39] <zudge> i just realized i can't use symlink because i need the home folder on the other storage device for space
[02:39] <histo> wut?
[02:39] <syn-ack> who knows.
[02:39] <zudge> histo: it boots fine, just from the actual /home/zudge instead of mounting /storage/zudge over /home/zudge
[02:39] <usr13> zudge: I'm not sure what your goal is.  Can you tell me?
[02:40] <zudge> usr13: mount my home folder from an second storage device mounted to /storage
[02:40] <syn-ack> it's not like you'd actually be storing anything on a symlinked source any way
[02:40] <histo> usr13: he wants his home bind mounted from a different drive
[02:40] <zudge> usr13: my home folder has been copied to /storage/zudge
[02:40] <syn-ack> I would just forgo the bind mount and mount directly to the other device
[02:40] <histo> zudge: How are you determining that it's not working?
[02:41] <syn-ack> or if its over the network, just use NFS or SAMBA
[02:41] <zudge> histo: i created a folder in /storage/zudge and rebooted.  it didn't reflect the  added folder in ~ after the reboot
[02:41] <histo> zudge: For the love of god pastebin the output of mount
[02:41]  * histo Takes a deep breath
[02:41] <usr13> zudge: Oh, well.  I don't know.  That is a bit of a weird way to do it.  Why did you copy your personal files to /storage/zudge?  And where is /storage/zudge? (On the same partition? or_____?)
[02:42] <usr13> zudge: mount |  pastebinit  #And send us the resulting URL
[02:43] <histo> he's gone
[02:43]  * litropy shrugs
[02:43] <histo> I sense i'm going to get kicked/banned tonight when I rage
[02:43] <usr13> histo: Oh. Well too bad.  Was an interesting issue.
[02:43] <usr13> histo: Why?  What is it?
[02:43] <histo> usr13: most likely it was mounted properly but he just expected to be in /storage/zudge instead of /home/zudge when he went to term
[02:44] <usr13> Yea, I guess that's possible.
[02:45] <histo> Another option would be to just change his users home to /storage/zudge instead of /home/$USER
[02:46] <pzn> does ubuntuforuns use the same credentials as launchpad or one.ubuntu? should I change my passwords at launchpad or one.ubuntu?
[02:46] <histo> usermod -m -d /storage/zudge zudge  would have worked wonders
[02:46] <histo> pzn: read the page on ubuntuforums.org
[02:47] <histo> pzn: The bold words may be of help
[02:48] <usr13> histo: But if /storage/audge was another drive, I think I'd have done just a standard fastab entry with a bilkid for it.  One thing that needs to be done first though is rename one of them.  Because if it's the /home/zudge the mountpoint for the real one will be somewhat of a conflict.  So he would have needed to rename /home/zudge (like /home/old-zudge), before mounting the new one. Right?
[02:48] <usr13> *zudge not audge
[02:48] <DuncanNZ> sorry wrong channel
[02:48] <DuncanNZ> sorry not wrong channel
[02:48] <DuncanNZ> lol
[02:48] <histo> usr13: no if you mount on top of a directory the underlying one is no longer accesible
[02:49] <usr13> Oh?
[02:49] <pzn> histo, sorry, I had read that previously, and since I never used ubuntu forums, I don't know exactly. the page says ubuntu one was not affected by the breach. however I don't know if forums and ubuntu one use the same credentials (for example by LDAP).
[02:49] <usr13> histo: Then how would you delete the duplicate files?  Because you'd want to do delete them at some point, right?
[02:50] <histo> usr13: you'd have to delete them before the mount.
[02:50] <usr13> histo: Yea, that's what I mean.
[02:50] <histo> pzn: different creds
[02:50] <Sengoku> Anyone here know hindi?
[02:50] <usr13> Sengoku: I think she is in hiding.
[02:50] <pzn> histo: ok, now all understood. thanks!
[02:51] <varunendra> Sengoku, yes, but I think it wouldn't be allowed here. It is an English-only channel.
[02:51] <Sengoku> can I pm you a question?
[02:52] <varunendra> Sengoku, your English seems good enough to ask here.
[02:52] <tree1> hi friends i recentle compiled my kernel with latest version of kernel but as i reeboted the system i find error like it says running in low graphics and then does not proceed
[02:52] <histo> tree1: what type of graphics card?
[02:52] <tree1>  hi friends i recentle compiled my kernel with latest version of kernel but as i reeboted the system i find error like it says running in low graphics and then does not proceed can any one help plse
[02:53] <histo> tree1: also why did you install a newer kernel?
[02:53] <syn-ack> we help with custom kernel and panics?
[02:53] <Sengoku> varunendra: I didn't need linux help =\ I just needed help to translate something
[02:53] <syn-ack> kernels, that is
[02:53] <Sengoku> no english hindi translators..
[02:53] <tree1> well i hab intel hd3000 kernel
[02:53] <usr13> histo: But if you mv /home/zudge /home/old.zudge that would solve the problem, (you can rm -rf /home/old.zudge afterward, after you are sure your files are all there and mounted/accessable)
[02:54] <syn-ack>  usr13 I completely forgot about having to do that
[02:54] <tree1> and i compiled kernel coz i could not find linux/module header file in my generic version of kernel
[02:54] <varunendra> Sengoku, probably if you can explain your objective in detail, maybe someone here can direct you to the correct place :)
[02:54] <histo> usr13: yeap  unless you use usermod above that will move the users files if you use the -m with -d
[02:54] <syn-ack> usr13: I think you're spot on
[02:55] <Sengoku> varunendra: someone messaged something , don't know what it means
[02:55] <Sengoku> couldn't find any indian channels
[02:56] <varunendra> Sengoku, google translate ?? But I'm okay with pm for this one.. :)
[02:57] <curatrix> Sengoku: http://translate.google.com.au/#en/hi/
[02:57] <usr13> histo: I've never done it that way, I suppose it works, just never tried it.
[02:59] <pzn> I need to diagnose the boot process. inside an initrd script, I'd like to start a shell for diagnose... putting /bin/sh inside the script does not work. any hints?
[03:00] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I clear the warning and errors within Nagios?
[03:00] <syn-ack> pzn: are you putting that before or after the shebang?
[03:01] <pzn> syn-ack, inside /scripts/local-top/cryptoroot, at some point of the script I'm putting "/bin/sh"
[03:02] <syn-ack> pzn: And really why would you want to init a to start a shell when logon does that?
[03:02] <syn-ack> pzn: a script would generally consider that a shebang line
[03:03] <syn-ack> Unless you're trying to fork it from the initial process....
[03:03] <pzn> syn-ack, I have a problem with the setup of cryptoroot. the boot does not complete. I need to start a shell inside a boot script
[03:03] <pzn> syn-ack, then I can diagnose by using this shell
[03:03] <syn-ack> I wouldn't even know where to begin a hack like that.
[03:04] <syn-ack> I doubt (and hope) that's impossible, to be quite honest, pzn
[03:04] <pzn> syn-ack, :-(
[03:05] <syn-ack> you need to boot without cryptroot and see if it's leaving any logs
[03:05] <syn-ack> I don't know enough about how it works to know.
[03:05] <pzn> syn-ack, cryptoroot is needed for accessing the / partition... so boot does not complete.
[03:06] <syn-ack> I'm trying to research it right now...
[03:06] <syn-ack> this is whole drive encryption, no?
[03:06] <Awaken> hmm, i have a dedi box, came imaged with 12.04.2 server, but with the 3.2 kernel. I have no KVM over IP or stuff! Reckon  sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-quantal will break it ? :D
[03:07] <syn-ack> pzn: THIS is why I think root encryption is a bad idea.
[03:07] <syn-ack> pzn: so what errors, if any is it throwing?
[03:08] <syn-ack> pzn: and, can you drop into single user mode from grub to accomplish this?
[03:08] <pzn> syn-ack, http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug found it! I should add a parameter break= so kernel stops at initrd and gives me a shell to debug
[03:09] <syn-ack> ok, I'm sorry, I was trying to get up to speed to point you in the right direction. you got there before I could. Again, sorry about that
[03:09] <histo> Awaken: it shouldn't
[03:09] <histo> Awaken: Is there a reason you want to though?
[03:10] <syn-ack> pzn: either way, this is why encrypting / is a bad idea, imo. /boot? Go ahead, do it all day long, but not /
[03:11] <curatrix> if / is encrypted ..the key needs to be stored separately
[03:11] <machismo> Zimmerman. The media to kickstart black riots invented a new race. WHITE mexican.
[03:12] <syn-ack> curatrix: yeah either in /boot or the TPM.
[03:12] <syn-ack> I *HATE* the trusted computing model.
[03:12] <pzn> syn-ack, customer requirement, / encrypted, reboot only with human present, key must be typed, only 3 people have the key. I don't agree with that... however I must comply
[03:13] <syn-ack> pzn: DoD TEMPEST?
[03:13] <machismo> curatrix: yeah with OBAMAS survalance spy state everything needs encryprion
[03:13] <vaskaloidis> Hey, can I install Ubuntu Server 13.04 on my hard-drive, plugged into my friends Compaq, then use the hard drive in my Dell Dimension 4600 - or will it not work correctly because it was not installed on the computer that is running it because of drivers? My dell Dimension 4600 (Pentium 4) will not install Ubuntu Server onto it's hard drive because it WONT load the CD. I have been trying for a long time
[03:13] <vaskaloidis> Thank you!!
[03:14] <syn-ack> It'll work, vaskaloidis
[03:14] <syn-ack> Linux is good like that.
[03:14] <histo> !ot | machismo
[03:14] <histo> vaskaloidis: yes it will work
[03:14] <vaskaloidis> syn-ack: It won't have any driver errors? histo
[03:14] <syn-ack> nope
[03:14] <pzn> syn-ack, :-) no... just a computer with a software that does audits on SAP, accounts and government taxes.
[03:14] <vaskaloidis> \that would be so awesome
[03:14] <machismo> vaskaloidis: it will work. Booting is the issue with grub
[03:15] <vaskaloidis> thanks machismo and histo
[03:15] <syn-ack> pzn: I pitty you, but still not as much as if it were TEMPEST.
[03:15] <syn-ack> what about me? :(
[03:15] <syn-ack> *cries*
[03:16] <syn-ack> Man, I'm really liking this latest installl. I think I may clone it, just in case.
[03:18] <roobis> syn-ack, using what drive image software?
[03:18] <chucko> has anyone successfully managed to get raid working on 13.04
[03:18] <machismo> perfect forward secrecy is one way to block the NSA. Its client originated SSL encryption.
[03:19] <SunStar> how to i install b43-fwcutter from USB install disk if the machine has no network access or an optical drive?
[03:19] <syn-ack> roobis: dd
[03:20] <histo> !anyone | chucko
[03:21] <syn-ack> roobis: just dd the whole / partition and rsync it to the server. :D
[03:21] <roobis> syn-ack I tried dd, got stuck
[03:21] <histo> roobis: What are you trying to do?
[03:22] <varunendra> SunStar, If you are sure you need the b43 driver, you can just download the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package and double-click to install : http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download
[03:22] <roobis> histo, clone my hard drive and have it available as a sort of quick restore
[03:22] <SunStar> it installed the STA driver during OS install but i get no wifi connections listed
[03:22] <roobis> I was gonna try redobackup or clonezilla er something
[03:23] <chucko> ubottu: Does anyone know how to get raid working with 13.04 desktop. I have previously installed with alternate but one does not exist for 13.04. I have read an option to install server addition and install ubuntu-desktop but I am not sure if that will give me a true desktop experience
[03:23] <SunStar> redo is great for that
[03:23] <syn-ack> roobis: clonezilla is a real good way to do that as well
[03:23] <histo> roobis: you could use clonezilla if you don't want to just use dd | gzip | nc
[03:23] <varunendra> SunStar, if you are not sure about the correct driver, please give us the pastebin link of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[03:23] <roobis> SunStar, I tried to run redo from the iso, but it wouldnt' open
[03:23] <roobis> may need to download and burn it again
[03:24] <roobis> splash screen freeze
[03:24] <SunStar> chucko, yes you can install ubuntu desktop onto server it will function just like ubuntu desktop (just a lil slower if its got a bunch of server deamons running like a lampp stack
[03:25] <SunStar> roobis, likely the download was corrupted. redo is based on ubuntu so it should boot if ubuntu runs
[03:25] <toki_wa_tomarana> test
[03:25] <machismo> When the heck is 32 bit going to die like the dinosaurs. Pure 64 bit is way better
[03:25] <chucko> SunStar: if dont install the daemons ie. dont install LAMP etc, do I get the speed back?
[03:25] <histo> roobis: dd if=/dev/sda bs=whatever | gzip -c | nc -v -w 60 ip.addr.of.server port
[03:26] <SunStar> ah but redo is so much more fun. and less likely to cause a disaster
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> machismo, about the same time you go beyond a pre-pubescent cognitive state, NEVER.
[03:27] <roobis> SunStar, yes it looks good, and a restore dvd is what I want
[03:27] <machismo> wilee-nilee: i ask and you give me insults
[03:28] <machismo> wilee-nilee: you still using 8 bit commodore 64
[03:28] <syn-ack> hah
[03:28] <chucko> Does anyone know  if I should use the default open-source nviidia drivers vs the proprietry. Are the open-source drivers stable and fast?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | chucko
[03:29] <machismo> chucko: closed source
[03:29] <syn-ack> chucko: I would use the proprietary drivers and as a matter of fact, do
[03:29] <SunStar> chucko,  both have worked well for me in the past
[03:29] <roobis> does clonezilla create a restore dvd?
[03:30] <machismo> SunStar: yeah if you use ur desk top for word processing only
[03:30] <histo> roobis: you use the clonezilla boot media and pick where ever your image file is and plop it back on
[03:30] <machismo> Zimmerman. The media to kickstart black riots invented a new race. WHITE mexican.
[03:30]  * curatrix thanks F
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> roobis, No you run it from a cd or usb and it saves packages to where you want, an external HD works nicely.
[03:32] <SunStar> roobis,  run the ISO through your torrent app again and force recheck of torrent data. like i said redo is based on ubuntu, if ubuntu works fine then its more likly the source media your running
[03:33] <SunStar> that is to blame*
[03:35] <roobis> SunStar, I download it html not torrent
[03:35] <SunStar> then verify the MD5 checksum. the easiest way to do that is run it through a torrent app
[03:36] <SunStar> oh yeah but they are sourceforge based
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> roobis, You can rename it to the torrent download and check it if you wanted as well.
[03:36] <SunStar> nevermind dont trust any torrents on that
[03:40] <Foxhoundz> I ruined my httpd installation by messing with the conf files.
[03:40] <Foxhoundz> How do I reset it to mint condition again?
[03:40] <Foxhoundz> delete all *.conf files?
[03:41] <Foxhoundz> reinstall apache2?
[03:41] <Foxhoundz> or something else?
[03:41] <Awaken> chucko, bit late, yes, the open source nvidia drivers are stable, no they are NOT fast :(
[03:41] <Awaken> and will cook your laptop
[03:43] <usr13> Foxhoundz: You can probably just use apt-get's purge option.
[03:44] <SunStar> omg im dumb. the answer i was looking for was sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[03:44] <Foxhoundz> there was an answer on ubuntu forums
[03:44] <Foxhoundz> but alas
[03:44] <Foxhoundz> the hacking has really come at a bad time
[03:44] <usr13> Foxhoundz: "purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too)."  (From the man file.)
[03:45] <Foxhoundz> I see
[03:45] <Foxhoundz> would this in any way interfere with the existing php5 installation and its extensions?
[03:45] <HisaoNakai> Could someone please help me set up my Ubuntu 12.04 install so I can type in LibreOffice in Hindi? I've installed the ttf-devanagari-fonts package but when I type in them in LO it's still English :\
[03:46] <usr13> Foxhoundz: Are you sure you can't just fix it? (Not that un-installing and re-installing is not an option, and may even be easier, but....)?
[03:46] <devslash> im trying to install an application called xvidcap from a deb. when i do sudo dpkg -i xvidcap.deb it  fails because it xvidcap depends on scrollkeeper. i manually installed scrollkeeper but when i try again i cant instal it. i get the same error
[03:46] <snappy> does anyone know if ubuntu personal sharing over bluetooth works -- specifically receiving a file over bluetooth? i have it enabled to receive files to the downloads directory, but when i send a file it (from android device) it just fails.
[03:46] <snappy> I also tried from another macbook
[03:47] <FailGameDev> How do I make it so that Ubuntu stores a folder with one name on one machine and another name on a different one?
[03:48] <curatrix> snappy: If it is android you should be able to use a link(usb) cable and enable the device to act like a flash drive
[03:48] <FailGameDev> UbuntuOne, sorryu
[03:48] <FailGameDev> -u
[03:49] <usr13> snappy: Do you have a wifi network?  (If so, how about Filexpert?
[03:49] <usr13> snappy: Or as curatrix suggests, just use the usb cable.
[03:50] <curatrix> if they are small files, i would use dropbox
[03:50] <usr13> curatrix: It's an android, right?
[03:50] <snappy> i want to use bluetooth specifically
[03:50] <Awaken> or bit torrent sync or aero fs or something
[03:50] <usr13> curatrix: Do you have a USB cable for it?
[03:51] <snappy> my android can send a file over BT to a mac, i assume this all uses the OBEX protocol, so im just not sure if it even works in ubuntu
[03:51] <curatrix> usr13: it is snappy's and yes I believe it is android
[03:51] <usr13> snappy: Okeydokey, but bluetooth is not the best option, IMO.
[03:51] <HisaoNakai> Could someone please help me set up my Ubuntu 12.04 install so I can type in LibreOffice in Hindi? I've installed the ttf-devanagari-fonts package but when I type in them in LO it's still English -_-
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, From libreoffice-help-language "Choose Tools - Options - Language Settings - Writing Aids, in the Available language modules list, select one of the language modules and then click Edit."
[03:52] <snappy> right, just trying to confirm if anyone has actualyl done it before
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, The help in Libreoffice should get you what you need
[03:52] <snappy> searching tells me that it is a mixed experience
[03:52] <curatrix> I have sent files via bt
[03:53] <curatrix> it will work but it is glitchy (at best)
[03:53] <snappy> ah ok
[03:53] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee - Thanks, one sec, Ima try.
[03:53] <histo> !locale | HisaoNakai
[03:53] <snappy> curatrix: do i need ot confirm the file transfer if a file is being received (on my mac, i have to)
[03:53] <curatrix> snappy: Check out dropbox .....it is an awesome app and the files can be retrieved through any browser
[03:54] <HisaoNakai> histo - Isn't that more to do with system language? I don't want to change that :|
[03:54] <snappy> right now, i just want to test my bluetooth beyond pairing -- then i want to do some socket programming over bluetooth
[03:54] <curatrix> snappy: Yes
[03:54] <histo> snappy: you can install ssh server app from the android market and just scp files to your phone
[03:54] <histo> HisaoNakai: ignore me then
[03:54] <snappy> just looking for apps to prove that beyond pairing, bluetotoh works
[03:57] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee - Not a ghost of Hindi there.
[03:59] <curatrix> HisaoNakai: I think you have to install the hindi lang files via the system for them to be available in libre
[03:59] <snappy> ok, i think the receive files is broken -- but at least i can send files over bluetooth -- which means bluetooth does work
[03:59] <HisaoNakai> curatrix - <HisaoNakai> Could someone please help me set up my Ubuntu 12.04 install so I can type in LibreOffice in Hindi? I've installed the ttf-devanagari-fonts package but when I type in them in LO it's still English :\
[04:00] <curatrix> snappy: The low power means that bits are frequently lost
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, I can't say exactly how you set this up however I see hindi in two places in the option-language-settings-languages.
[04:00] <curatrix> HisaoNakai: ttf is a true type font file.....it is different to a language file
[04:01] <curatrix> HisaoNakai: I think what you are after is in the system settings(aka control panel)
[04:01] <Random832> HisaoNakai: you need to set up a keyboard layout
[04:02]  * HisaoNakai is confused.
[04:02] <HisaoNakai> lol
[04:02] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee - I don't, and Asian languages is grayed out oO_
[04:02] <HisaoNakai> *o_O
[04:02] <HisaoNakai> curatrix - I see.
[04:02] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - Any guide or something you could point me to? o.o
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, this might help, I saw hindi in the 2nd and 3rd dropdowns on the left in that section. https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Languages
[04:03] <Random832> HisaoNakai: listen to curatrix, i need to go
[04:03] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - Okay-o.
[04:04]  * curatrix hides
[04:04] <Random832> sorry, i use xubuntu, so i'm not sure where the settings are on gnome ubuntu
[04:04]  * curatrix uses mint xfce 
[04:04] <curatrix> lol
[04:04] <HisaoNakai> lmfao curatrix
[04:04] <nimdAHK> HisaoNakai: I can't internationalization but I like your nickname :P
[04:04] <HisaoNakai> I use XFCE too.
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, Sorry on the right side of that options section.
[04:05] <HisaoNakai> nimdAHK - Oh, are you aware of KS?
[04:05] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee - one sec, checking it out
[04:05] <nimdAHK> I am. 100%'d it a while back.
[04:06] <Random832> HisaoNakai: oh then i can help you
[04:06] <curatrix> HisaoNakai: ok  open the menu  go  to   settings/language support
[04:06] <Random832> go to the top menu, settings manager
[04:06]  * curatrix steps back
[04:06] <curatrix> ;)
[04:06] <Random832> grr let me find it
[04:06] <Random832> ok
[04:06] <HisaoNakai> nimdAHK - Heh! Congrats, you're the first person to have recognized it ever since I changed it :D
[04:06] <Random832> HisaoNakai: in the settings manager, go to Keyboard, and open the Layout tab
[04:07] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - Yes? o.o
[04:07] <Random832> and then add a layout, find Indian in the list
[04:07] <Random832> and select one of the - did you say Hindi?
[04:08] <HisaoNakai> Yeah, Hindi.
[04:08] <nimdAHK> HisaoNakai: protip: get a tshirt with Kenji's angry face on it. Good for meeting other KS fans irl surreptitiously.
[04:09] <Random832> वेरतयुिोप
[04:09] <forogmynick> hello
[04:09] <Random832> gah
[04:09] <forogmynick> roughly how much space does ubuntu desktop take after install?
[04:09] <Random832> i am not sure how to switch between two installed layouts
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> forogmynick, close to 4 gigs
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> maybe a little less
[04:10] <Random832> ok you have to add an applet to the panel
[04:10] <Random832> then in the applet properties you can set a key shortcut
[04:11] <Random832> HisaoNakai: you getting this?
[04:11] <Random832> was there any part you couldn't follow?
[04:11] <HisaoNakai> Wups
[04:11] <HisaoNakai> one sec
[04:12] <Random832> १२३४५६७८९०
[04:12] <HisaoNakai> Haha, Random832
[04:12] <Random832> ^you seeing that? if the font's working you should see that
[04:12] <HisaoNakai> nimdAHK - protip indeed :))
[04:12] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - I do see it, but I can't seem to do it O_o
[04:12] <Random832> did you add a keyboard layout?
[04:13] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - Oh, lol, I had, but hadn't selected it. Excellent, it works :D
[04:14] <Random832> yeah you need to add the keyboard layout applet to the panel
[04:14] <Random832> right click the panel, go to panel, add new items
[04:14] <Random832> find the keyboard layout applet
[04:14] <Random832> then you can click it to switch, or you can right click and set up a key shortcut
[04:15] <FaithlessHyren> Hello, everyone.
[04:15] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - What's 'compose key position'?
[04:15] <FaithlessHyren> A simple question from me, since the Ubuntu Forums are down: How do I boot into the GRUB Boot loader?
[04:15] <Random832> ignore that
[04:16] <Random832> just set up the change layout option
[04:16] <nimdAHK> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key <-- for later, HisaoNakai
[04:16] <FaithlessHyren> Or even just straight into memtest
[04:16] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - Silly, they could've given two lists of keys to pick...but yeah, I get the idea ^^
[04:17] <HisaoNakai> thanks nimdAHK :)
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> FaithlessHyren, Context on a live cd or a install?
[04:17] <FaithlessHyren> On an install.
[04:17] <HisaoNakai> Alt+Caps lock. Alright :D
[04:17] <pheonix10> hi everyone
[04:17] <pheonix10> i need a little help with ldap
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> FaithlessHyren, The memtest would be on a live cd, grub would be tapping the shift when powering on.
[04:18] <pheonix10> any kind souls able to help me out
[04:18] <histo> !memtest | FaithlessHyren
[04:18] <FaithlessHyren> Thanks, wilee-nilee.
[04:18] <curatrix> !ask
[04:19] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - Thanks, I think I'm more or less set. Tell me this, is there any resource for international-language-typing? It's a bit confusing, so it'd be good to learn in case of future mess-ups.
[04:19] <Random832> not really
[04:19] <histo> !ldap | pheonix10
[04:19] <Random832> just be glad you've got a simple language
[04:19] <HisaoNakai> lol, ouch.
[04:19] <HisaoNakai> I'll also need to german in a few months :(
[04:19] <sirdeseagull> try google ime
[04:19] <Random832> no i mean like, setting up for like chinese or japanese is a bit more involved than just a keyboard layout
[04:20] <HisaoNakai> *set up for german
[04:20] <FaithlessHyren> Well. it doesn't help that I'm missing 6MB of RAM.
[04:20] <Random832> german's not hard at all - just add the US International keyboard layout
[04:20] <histo> FaithlessHyren: what do you mean missing?
[04:20] <Random832> or german or swiss german if you have one of those actual keyboards
[04:20] <pheonix10> trying to configure an application (PacketFence) to authenticate users using the organization's LDAP but am currently stuck
[04:21] <sirdeseagull> i have just install google ime for japanese kanji and it works fantastic
[04:21] <HisaoNakai> I see, Random832...
[04:21] <HisaoNakai> Oh, sirdeseagull, you meant me, lol.
[04:21] <pheonix10> i have a field "Username Attribute" but i don't know what to enter there?
[04:21] <FaithlessHyren> histo: Memtest is showing that I have 4022MB of RAM. Unless the on-board graphics is using 6, which isn't a power of 2, then I've lost a few megabytes.
[04:21] <sirdeseagull> haha
[04:21] <nickthebum> HisaoNakai: you a china man
[04:21] <HisaoNakai> nickthebum - No, India o_O
[04:21] <Random832> and german support is in every font, you don't need to install fonts
[04:22] <Random832> if you wanted like the file menu to be in german or hindi you'd have to install language pack files, but you were just talking about typing it into libreoffice
[04:22] <FaithlessHyren> Wait, hang on, I've got my maths wrong.
[04:22] <sirdeseagull> german use roman anyways
[04:22] <HisaoNakai> Random832 - That's good to hear. However...I might need more fonts for Hindi, how does one change that in this setup?
[04:22] <FaithlessHyren> Make that 74MB, not 6
[04:22] <nickthebum> FaithlessHyren: are you using 32 or 64 bit
[04:22] <curatrix> HisaoNakai: You should be able to use any ttf hindi font
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> FaithlessHyren, data is measured in 1000Mib or 1024MIB at times for a gig.
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> Mib*
[04:23] <Random832> HisaoNakai: i don't know where you can get fonts
[04:23] <Random832> but if you make a directory in your home called ".fonts" you can put any fonts you download in it
[04:23] <curatrix> The fonts are all over the net
[04:23] <sirdeseagull> here hisaonakai : http://insane-on-linux.blogspot.ca/2010/01/google-ime-for-indian-languages.html
[04:23] <nickthebum> Now even FONTS can carry spy ware
[04:23] <HisaoNakai> nickthebum - LOL
[04:24] <Random832> i don't know if that's the "proper" place, that's just how i learned it and it still works for me i tihnk
[04:24] <FaithlessHyren> nickthebum: I'm not actually sure, to be honest. It's a machine I picked up from the side of the road. But shouldn't 32-bit be limited to 3.7GB, instead of 4.02?
[04:24] <nickthebum> HisaoNakai: yes they can.
[04:24] <FaithlessHyren> wilee-nilee: It's measured in 1000MB for storage, but in 1024 for RAM, which is what's being dodgy.
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> nickthebum, Hardly ubuntu support info.
[04:25] <HisaoNakai> Random832, curatrix - Aha, I got it. I _can_ use the existing ttfs I have. Although a tiny annoyance, I have to change input method to search for them in LO's font list, _then_ switch IM again to use them, lulz.
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> FaithlessHyren, Depends on who and what is measuring it.
[04:25] <HisaoNakai> nickthebum - I know, ironic laughter.
[04:25] <nickthebum> FaithlessHyren: boot into bios.
[04:25] <HisaoNakai> nickthebum - I avoid google stuff where ever possible.
[04:25] <nickthebum> FaithlessHyren: check memory in bios
[04:26] <HisaoNakai> They're like those antagonists who act all good and even do good to gain trust >_>
[04:26] <curatrix> HisaoNakai: Yeah ....They will all get lumped in together......Personally I would start a new user account that was set up for hindi .
[04:26] <FaithlessHyren> nickthebum: It's 64-bit, and installed memory is showing up as a very vague 4.0GB
[04:27] <HisaoNakai> curatrix - Nah, current one works fine - it'd be a pain to have to keep switching between accounts :S
[04:27] <nickthebum> FaithlessHyren: should it be more
[04:27] <curatrix> HisaoNakai: That is fair enough.
[04:27] <HisaoNakai> One more question, not regarding languages
[04:28] <FaithlessHyren> nickthebum: It should be 4096MB, but it shows up in memtest as 4022. I suspect a stick to be damaged, though, since it was preventing the PC from booting before I re-seated it.
[04:29] <nickthebum> FaithlessHyren: your worried about that. Its probably coversion from MB or Mb.
[04:29] <HisaoNakai> Where can I find out about Ubuntu's legal status as a company? I'm about to make a FOSS project which is based on a donate-for-earlier-release basis, and should make money, so I'm trying to know how big projects with lots of donation inflow do it.
[04:29] <zengr1> Hello, I am trying to enable monitor mode in a wifi dongle. But i get an error when I try to change it. Any suggestions? question: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/8578/enable-monitor-mode-in-rtl8188cus-realtek-wifi-usb-dongle
[04:29] <curatrix> nickthebum: I thought that though 4096/1.024=4000
[04:30] <nickthebum> FaithlessHyren: or mb. All are slightly different
[04:30] <nickthebum> There are online convertors.
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> zengr1, And this is related to ubuntu how?
[04:31] <FaithlessHyren> nickthebum: Don't I know it. http://xkcd.com/394/
[04:31] <zengr1> wilee-nilee: raspberrypi runs ubuntu
[04:32] <nickthebum> FaithlessHyren: there are some you can plug numbers in.
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> zengr1, Not anything from canonical, if at all.
[04:32] <nickthebum> Whats so great about raspberry
[04:33] <zengr1> wilee-nilee: my bad. nickthebum: nothing really. Its just a small and cheap computer
[04:33] <zengr1> nickthebum: perfect to create a small sniffer and place it anywhere.
[04:33] <Flannel> HisaoNakai: Ubuntu isn't a company.  Also, this channel is for technical support, you should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> zengr1, There is a #raspberrypi chanel though
[04:34] <FaithlessHyren> If the ram was a hard-drive maker's gigabyte, I'd have 3.81 actual GB.
[04:34] <zengr1> wilee-nilee: thanks, I will try it out
[04:34] <FaithlessHyren> But the difference is only 74MB
[04:34] <HisaoNakai> Flannel - I see. Thanks.
[04:34] <histo> zengr1: perhaps your wifi chipset doesn't support monitor mode
[04:34] <nickthebum> wilee-nilee: now them android tv boxes are getting better. Quad cores. Run circles around raspberrypi using one watt of power
[04:34] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee, curatrix, Random832 , nimdAHK, sirdeseagull , nickthebum, thank you all for your help ^^
[04:34] <FaithlessHyren> Not ~200
[04:34] <histo> nickthebum: wiht no GPIO
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> zengr1, Cool the channel has 371 users so should be some answers.
[04:35] <Aww> 371? more like 1471 ;o
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> Aww, Not the #raspberrypi channel.
[04:36] <Aww> Ah okay, sorry I only read one line up :P
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> I know lol
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:36] <nickthebum> 371 ops 1 regular user and wilee-nilee keeps kick banning him
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> I don't have the power
[04:38]  * wilee-nilee laughs in a sinister way while petting his cat.
[04:40] <Koheleth> what software was the ubuntu forum using?
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> vb4
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> two rats with a shred wheel for the server
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> shared*
[04:42] <Koheleth> not used it for a while, can I view my pwd before changing it, not sure which one I used
[04:43] <chunkyhead> ubuntu is refusing to allow me to connect thru wifi -_- i cant even switch on my driver (usually that would happen when i press fn+f3) im on 13.04
[04:44] <holstein> chunkyhead: you shouldnt need to "switch on a driver"
[04:44] <chunkyhead> holstein, exactly. but i cant do anything
[04:44] <holstein> chunkyhead: cant?
[04:44] <chunkyhead> i thought maybe the driver was off so i tried turning it on and the light doesn't glow at all
[04:44] <chunkyhead> holstein, ^
[04:44] <chunkyhead> nor do i have any option in the network menu on the top bar holstein
[04:45] <holstein> chunkyhead: do dont "turn them on"
[04:45] <holstein> chunkyhead: the driver is either available in the kernel, or you need to add it
[04:45] <holstein> !wifi
[04:45] <holstein> chunkyhead: have you read that ^^
[04:45] <chunkyhead> holstein, reading brb
[04:45] <holstein> chunkyhead: do you know what hardware you have?
[04:45] <varunendra> chunkyhead, which driver/chip are you using ? (lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net)
[04:46] <chunkyhead> varunendra, broadcom
[04:46] <varunendra> chunkyhead, please give us the pastebin link of the command.
[04:46] <holstein> !broadcom | chunkyhead
[04:46] <chunkyhead> when i was on 12.04 it was working fine. recently i updated to 13.04 and i started using ethernet. just now when i wanted to connect to wifi i couldn't see anything yes posting 1 sec
[04:46] <chunkyhead> varunendra, ^
[04:47] <holstein> chunkyhead: please relax, and share what hardware you have
[04:47] <chunkyhead> varunendra, holstein http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906418/
[04:47] <chunkyhead> im chilled out haha
[04:48] <kce007> hello there,a lot of ppl
[04:49] <Alejadnroo80> Hi anyone knows how to install Ubuntu for android on the nexus 4, recently shown in a video demo by Leann Ogasawara, it is shown around the 1:50 sec mark
[04:50] <holstein> chunkyhead: when i go to the broadcom link i gave you and search 43225 i find information that supports the appropriate driver package you should add is bcmwl-kernel-source
[04:50] <Alejadnroo80> This is the link to the video I spoke before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtNhlVn3ETQ
[04:50] <chunkyhead> holstein, not there already saw
[04:50] <varunendra> chunkyhead, that card seems to be supported by all 3 variants of broadcom drivers. Please try - "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac"
[04:50] <holstein> chunkyhead: it actually is there
[04:51] <kce007> who would be so nice and tell me what i can do for dell optical mouse freezes on boot,it works after one or 2 reboots
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Alejadnroo80, #ubuntu-touch
[04:51] <chunkyhead> holstein, where? http://screencloud.net/v/laIT no where can i see 43225
[04:51] <holstein> !broadcom | chunkyhead
[04:51] <varunendra> chunkyhead, holstein, the best place to look for correct device/driver match for broadcom : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[04:52] <Alejadnroo80> Ok thanks wilee-nilee
[04:52] <holstein> varunendra: i usually suggest the wiki and using repo packages.. you are welcome to talk chunkyhead through using that
[04:53] <varunendra> :)
[04:54] <varunendra> holstein, the wiki is actually based on the same info. It mostly talks about identifying the device, then various ways to get the possible drivers.
[04:54] <holstein> varunendra: what i read, bcmwl-kernel-source is the one to try for that device
[04:54] <chunkyhead> what exactly is that i have to do on that link? varunendra
[04:55] <miadbahrami> help me please
[04:55] <holstein> chunkyhead: you read it, and parse what driver is needed for you device... as i did at the other link, where instaling bcmwl-kernel-source is suggested
[04:55] <holstein> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source for example
[04:55] <histo> chunkyhead: use the drivers manager in system settings
[04:56] <varunendra> chunkyhead, nothing to do there, the table on that page is only the info to determine which driver(s) may work for your card.
[04:57] <miadbahrami> i use the ubuntu 12.04 lts and live in iran - past the install the os - i install the language support and add the persian
[04:58] <miadbahrami> past the restart my system remve the keyboard layout for persian
[04:58] <chunkyhead> where are firmwares installed on the system?
[04:58] <varunendra> chunkyhead, the easiest thing you can quickly and without side effects test is - "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac". If it doesn't work, the next thing to try would be installing firmware.
[04:59] <kce007> hello,i have ubuntu 13.04  32 bits version ,ati radeon hd 5700, i have dell 5 button usb mose allmost every boot pointer freezes and i can fix it with one or two reboots.What i can do for it?
[04:59] <varunendra> chunkyhead, the firmware for broadcom chips has to be in /lib/firmware/b43 directory by the way. But not by default and not required if the brcmsmac driver works.
[05:00] <holstein> kce007: does it do it if you unplug and boot, and plug it in after its running? are you up to date with upgrades?
[05:01] <chunkyhead> varunendra, i did sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac now how to check
[05:01] <chunkyhead> varunendra, thanks man done :D
[05:02] <varunendra> chunkyhead, did the wireless become active? NM may not let you connect while wired connection is available.
[05:02] <kce007> holstein didnt tryed that one,but i tried unplug and plug after its booted,didnt worked
[05:02] <holstein> kce007: and, you are up to date with upgrades?
[05:02] <varunendra> chunkyhead, it is weird why it didn't get loaded by default. It shouldn't have required that command.
[05:03] <kce007> holstein: yes i m up to date
[05:03] <chunkyhead> varunendra, it works in windows. i was wondering why this happened
[05:03] <chunkyhead> anyways thanks none the less :D
[05:03] <histo> kce007: memtest
[05:04] <kce007> ohh holstein btw i saw that my usb wireless network doesnt work to when i has that freeze problem
[05:06] <kce007> sorry by Memtest you mean?
[05:20] <anon123> Hello, can anyone direct me on how to optimize ubuntu internet speed? Currently it's going way under what my isp/wireless connection and provide.
[05:21] <roobis> anon123, how are you checking speed?
[05:21] <anon123> speedtest.net
[05:21] <sajan> anon123, What makes you think it's Ubuntu?
[05:21] <roobis> are you using google servers?
[05:22] <anon123> nope
[05:22] <roobis> dns
[05:23] <anon123> yep
[05:23] <roobis> try 8.8.8.8 network connections, ipv4
[05:24] <roobis> automatic dhcp addresses only
[05:26] <anon123> testing
[05:32] <anon123> ok actually improved closer to my wireless cap. I can live with 4mbps/4mbps. Before was only going 800kbps/100kbps. Thanks for the help.
[05:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello, I don't suppose anyone here can tell me where I can find a template *.desktop file?
[05:35] <danlee> /usr/share/applications
[05:37] <bodom> Hi there! I've found an out-of-date package in ubuntu. Instead of reporting a bug, I would like to contribute and update it myself... can anybody point me to the right place to start?
[05:37] <lorundrik> !find trim
[05:37] <cfhowlett> !contribute|bodom,
[05:40] <varunendra> ntzrmtthihu777, "/etc/xdg/autostart" ?
[05:40] <bodom> cfhowlett: Ty, but I was hoping for something less generic like an "how to update a package from mainstream" :D
[05:51] <peteyboy_> So is this coincincidence, or should I be worried: I just got an email from reddit saying someone requested a pwd reset for my account, but I sent no such request. I also used this email on ubuntuforums, but all 3 pwds are different
[05:52] <Awaken> might be part of an automated script, if you were a wannabe hacker you'd wanna do a password reset on reddit if your stolen password WAS the same for your email. Then you have an extra account for free
[05:53] <DuncanNZ> Awaken: +1
[05:53] <Awaken> also it lets them discover more email addresses potentially
[05:53] <DuncanNZ> they'll just reset everyone's reddit password, try everyone's email password using the same one, then they have both in their hands. they don't care
[05:53] <Awaken> that you use, that the password might match
[05:54] <Awaken> if the reset process shows the email they sent the reset link to
[05:55] <DuncanNZ> the whole thing is very serious, every user has a major problem on their hands. if nothing else they'll get spammed. if they didn't use unique passwords, as I doubt half of people do, then they've lost their email account. and once you've got email, you can lose everything else, using password reset links.
[05:56] <DuncanNZ> there'll be plenty of people who a) didn't use unique passwords and b) won't change their password for everything else in time
[05:57] <energizer> I'm trying to install arch in virtualbox, need help. I tried #archlinux, but it seems to be a moderated channel so i cant ask. How to proceed?
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> energizer, #vbox
[05:57] <Ben64> energizer: you may need to be registered to talk there
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> energizer, You have the install wikito use for reference once you get there.
[06:00] <energizer> "wikito" ?
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> wiki
[06:00] <energizer> install it?
[06:01] <peteyboy_> Awaken: i was just surprised as the supposed hacker said they wouldn't bother messing with people
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> my keyboard went a bit weird
[06:01] <energizer> lol is there something called wiki i need to install?
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> energizer, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_Guide
[06:02] <energizer> lol wilee-nilee ya im there
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> cool
[06:02] <peteyboy_> not sure if you saw this, but Awaken: i was just surprised as the supposed hacker said they wouldn't bother messing with people
[06:04] <energizer> (actually im reading the Beginners guide because it says the regular installation guide is for "advanced arch users")
[06:05] <Awaken> peteyboy_, i would say that too if i was cracking salted passwords
[06:05] <Awaken> :P
[06:05] <peteyboy_> haha, I guess so
[06:06] <kce007> holstein: about that freeze on boot. memtest suceeded without errors
[06:14] <deckard_> how can i know if a program is running 64 or 86?
[06:15] <zryan> how to fix ? (AW,Snap!) google chrome?
[06:16] <Braden`> Hello
[06:18] <zryan> AW,Snap!
[06:19] <Braden`> I asked this in #httpd, but got no response.  I am wondering if this is an Ubuntu-centric issue.   * Starting web server apache2 -- Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: -- Invalid command 'CacheDirLength', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration.     I have cache, mem_cache, and file_cache modules enabled.
[06:19] <Braden`> 12.04.2
[06:21] <jacta> Is there any software that can monitor if hdmi is inserted/plugged out - I want to run a sh file on both
[06:29] <zimbo> when i turn my laptop on i have to boot it two to three times before i can log in
[06:29] <zimbo> often the screen just goes blank?
[06:29] <sajan> Braden`, are you sure they are enabled?  Run something like apachectl -t -D DUMP_MODULES
[06:30] <zimbo> is this a common problem with ubuntu on a laptop, or is there maybe something wrong with my hardware?
[06:30] <sajan> Braden`, or better yet...use nging, :).
[06:30] <zimbo> it's a refurbished pavilion g6
[06:31] <batman_> hello
[06:31] <batman_> is there someone?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> batman_, greetings
[06:32] <wizrd> hello batman_
[06:32] <batman_> i m french and first time here!!!
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !fr|batman_,
[06:33] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/Fn29QrYE
[06:37] <sajan> Braden`, I'm not too familiar with the caching modules you're trying to use.  However a quick google search for CacheDirLength leads me to believe that directive is for mod_cache_disk or mod_disk_cache, of which you have neither enabled from that pastebin output.
[06:38] <babinlonston> installed rsnapshots and getting this error please guide me to get fixed  http://pastebin.com/SFYEVjT4
[06:38] <sajan> Braden`, looks like it's also part of mod_proxy, which I also do not see.
[06:38] <Braden`> Oh
[06:38] <Braden`> Let me add that
[06:39] <sajan> Braden`, make sure you restart Apache. :)
[06:39] <Braden`> Enabled mod_proxy and restarted apache.  Same result :/
[06:41] <sajan> Braden`, sorry mate.  Not sure then.  What about the other modules for disk cache, that sounds more like what you're trying to do.
[06:44] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/uRvi4ZL8 <-- enabled disk_cache.  Still same result though :/
[06:45] <Braden`> sajan:  Thanks.  Its a frustrating problem to be sure
[06:46] <sajan> Braden`, oooh, you know what it might be.  Are you putting your CacheDirLength inside a directory block?
[06:46] <sajan> It looks like CacheDirLength is only accepted as part of the main server config block or a virtual host.
[06:48] <Braden`> sajan:  Nope, its in the virtualhost area but outside of directory
[06:52] <sajan> Braden`, sorry mate.  Out of ideas.
[06:52] <sajan> Braden`, I've moved all my stuff over to nginx now and Apache knowledge has pretty much vanished.
[06:56] <[1]tom> anyone know a current equivalent of the lib32zl and lib32zl-dev packages?
[06:56] <Braden`> Figured it out, thank you
[06:56] <Braden`> If anyone would benefit, I can post the solution
[06:56] <[1]tom> need them for libpng isntall
[06:56] <[1]tom> *install
[07:05] <krzkrz> when i boot ubuntu, instead of getting booted to the login screen, i get booted to a black screen. i need to do ctrl+alt+f1 to enter a terminal, login and reboot. anyone know why?
[07:10] <zimbo> same thing is happening to me, though not all the time
[07:10] <zimbo> sometimes i get a gui login
[07:10] <zimbo> i am trying to find out if it's ubuntu or if there is a hardware problem
[07:11] <zimbo> everytime i boot an opensuse or knoppix etc live usb or cd i have no issues though..... ubuntu has some issues i think
[07:11] <zimbo> with boot up
[07:12] <rannonga> zimbo, is this a live usb or have you installed it already?
[07:12] <krzkrz> zimbo: same. i get gui login
[07:12] <krzkrz> mine, is installed already
[07:12] <rannonga> so whats the problem krz
[07:12] <zimbo> rannonga installed
[07:12] <krzkrz> rannonga: what zimbo said
[07:13] <rannonga> i wasn't here sorry
[07:13] <krzkrz> when i boot ubuntu, instead of getting booted to the login screen, i get booted to a black screen. i need to do ctrl+alt+f1 to enter a terminal, login and reboot. anyone know why?
[07:13] <krzkrz> rannonga: ^
[07:13] <rannonga> try and restart lightdm
[07:13] <rannonga> sudo systemctl disable lightdm.service
[07:13] <rannonga> then turn it back on again
[07:14] <krzkrz> well i just reboot. ad it works
[07:14] <zimbo> reinstall windows
[07:14] <krzkrz> ad=and
[07:14] <zimbo> jokes
[07:14] <rannonga> lol
[07:14] <krzkrz> rannonga: im trying to prevent it
[07:14] <krzkrz> it happens randomly
[07:14] <rannonga> yeah try to restart the service first
[07:14] <randomaussie_> afternoon all... trying to follow a guide to install nvidia drivers on my pc... i cant run the command "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[07:14] <rannonga> random lol
[07:15] <randomaussie_> :P
[07:15] <rannonga> are you trying to stop the gnome window manager?
[07:15] <krzkrz> rannonga: that will probably work. assuming so. how would i get into the login screen without fail?
[07:15] <randomaussie_> yeah so i cna install my nvidia drivers
[07:16] <krzkrz> lets assume the issue is with lightdm
[07:16] <rannonga> did you do anything weird to your system?
[07:16] <krzkrz> "weird"
[07:16] <krzkrz> no
[07:17] <rannonga> krzkz i would try and download gdm and see if that works
[07:17] <rannonga> change the login manager
[07:17] <rannonga> it might just be a problem with lightdm
[07:18] <krzkrz> im on ubuntu 13.04. should i try 13.10?
[07:18] <krzkrz> doesnt 13.10 have a new login manager?
[07:18] <rannonga> i don't know it shouldnt matter
[07:18] <rannonga> when did this start?
[07:19] <krzkrz> since when i installed
[07:19] <rannonga> krz, what video driver do you have?
[07:19] <alexw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906695/ having issues formatting usb hdd ext3
[07:20] <rannonga> alex, how are you doing this?
[07:21] <rannonga> and is it mounted?
[07:21] <randomaussie_> i cant find a guide to make aditional drivers install a .run file
[07:21] <rannonga> what, you just want to run the .run file?
[07:21] <krzkrz> rannonga: using gdm instead of lightdm is safe/fine?
[07:21] <rannonga> yeah
[07:21] <rannonga> it doesnt matter
[07:21] <alexw> not mounted - I just got a USB ext drive (3tb)
[07:21] <alexw> and looking to format it to ext3
[07:21] <randomaussie_> to install my nvdia drivers
[07:22] <rannonga> random, so you just need to run the .run file?
[07:22] <krzkrz> ok i installed it. how do i know what my default login manager is?
[07:22] <krzkrz> ...is set to?
[07:22] <rannonga> krzkrz
[07:22] <randomaussie_> rannonga: as far as i cen tell
[07:22] <rannonga> go to ctrl alt f1
[07:22] <s0beit> >if anyone knows, my laptop used to disable it's own monitor when the lid closed, and HDMI output was working fine - now it refuses to turn off it's own monitor when the lid closes and output to HDMI only and I have no idea why (laptop monitor is still recognized by the OS when lid is closed)
[07:22] <rannonga> then type sudo systemctl disable lightdm.service and sudo system enable gmd.service
[07:23] <krzkrz> how do i get back from ctl alt f1?
[07:23] <rannonga> that will change the login manager
[07:23] <krzkrz> without rebooting
[07:23] <randomaussie_> ctrl+alt+f7
[07:23] <rannonga> are you in the gui already well logout and then type ctr alt f2 i thing or f1
[07:23] <krzkrz> k
[07:23] <krzkrz> brb
[07:24] <randomaussie_> ctrl+alt+f(1-6) are terminal 7 onwards are gui be default
[07:24] <randomaussie_> by defauklt
[07:24] <rannonga> random, if all you need to do is run a .run, cd into the directory then run sudo chmod +x file.run
[07:24] <rannonga> then sudo ./file.run
[07:25] <rannonga> that should work
[07:25] <randomaussie_> ok thanks
[07:25] <randomaussie_> thta will work with nvidia drivers?
[07:25] <rannonga> if all you need to do is run the .run file then yes
[07:26] <krz> well
[07:26] <rannonga> krz?
[07:26] <krz> gdm is the login manager now. but after i type the right password. it just hangs
[07:26] <krz> nothing else is happening
[07:27] <krz> in in tty2 terminal btw
[07:27] <randomaussie_> rannonga: need to exit x server yay
[07:27] <rannonga> is that the gdm thing?
[07:28] <krz> rannonga: yea
[07:28] <krz> im in gdm now
[07:28] <krz> as you suggested
[07:28] <rannonga> so im assuming you don't go to gui
[07:29] <krz> no im in gui
[07:29] <rannonga> oh
[07:29] <krz> it just says im already logged in, and doesnt take me anywhere
[07:29] <krz> im stuck at the login manager
[07:29] <alexw> worked it out :)
[07:29] <rannonga> well there should be an option to select desktop environment try and reboot and go to that
[07:29] <alexw> gotta create a label for the disk first
[07:30] <krz> rannonga: i selected ubuntu then logged in
[07:30] <rannonga> oh
[07:30] <krz> still no go
[07:30] <rannonga> weird what drivers are you using?
[07:31] <krz> default drivers. other than that, the bumblebee nvidia drivers
[07:31] <krz> for my graphics card
[07:32] <rannonga> krz could you put on lightdm and then login again
[07:32] <krz> k
[07:32] <krz> one sec
[07:32] <rannonga> np\
[07:32] <krz> how do i set lightdm to my default?
[07:33] <rannonga> oh
[07:33] <rannonga> sudo systemctl disable gdm.service and sudo system ctl enable lightdm.service
[07:33] <rannonga> systemctl
[07:34] <krz> it says systemctl command not found
[07:34] <alexw> Formating ext3 - (3TB) Writing Inode Tables takes forever….
[07:35] <rannonga> did you type sudo systemctl disable gdm.service
[07:35] <krz> ya
[07:35] <rannonga> are you out of the gui?
[07:35] <rannonga> of course but still
[07:35] <krz> yea
[07:37] <krz> systemctl works for you?
[07:37] <rannonga> yea
[07:37] <krz> ubuntu 13?
[07:37] <rannonga> yeah
[07:37] <krz> 04?
[07:38] <rannonga> try restarting and pressing ctr alt f1
[07:38] <krz> k
[07:38] <krz> brb
[07:38] <rannonga> it should skip gdm
[07:38] <krz> cant even restard from gdm
[07:38] <krz> will have to reboot from terminal
[07:38] <rannonga> ok
[07:39] <alexw> is it usual for a format to take a while?
[07:39] <rannonga> i dont know
[07:39] <rannonga> what is the size of your thing
[07:39] <alexw> its taking forever on "Writing inode tables..."
[07:39] <rannonga> im assuming you have nothing on this?
[07:39] <alexw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906730/
[07:40] <Two> ermm hi
[07:40] <rannonga> hi two
[07:40] <Two> heys rannonga
[07:40] <Two> hows life treating you today?
[07:40] <rannonga> ok lol
[07:41] <Two> nice
[07:41] <Two> lol
[07:41] <krz> rannonga: well i restarted. im able to login with gdm now
[07:41] <rannonga> cool
[07:41] <krz> but ill have to observe the issue
[07:41] <rannonga> ok
[07:41] <krz> like i said, it happens randomly
[07:41] <rannonga> yeah thats pretty weird
[07:41] <Lazuroth78> Hello every one
[07:41] <rannonga> alez, is ubuntu your only os?
[07:41] <Two> imin progress getting windows 8 and xubuntu on my lil netbook
[07:42] <rannonga> cool
[07:42] <rannonga> poor netbook though
[07:42] <Lazuroth78> I have a question about my ubunto
[07:42] <Two> windows 8 is like my old phone
[07:42] <Two> all apps
[07:42] <rannonga> lol so does everyone
[07:42] <Two> lol i have  a acer aspire one
[07:43] <Two> i removed the facktory stats patition
[07:43] <Lazuroth78> my dvd player show that it is working I can burn cd and dvd no problem but if I put in a store bought movie I can't play it can any one help me
[07:43] <Two> so im playing around with operating systems
[07:43] <rannonga> lazu is this for everything?
[07:43] <rannonga> every disc?
[07:43] <Lazuroth78> No if I download a movie and burn it I can play the burned movies
[07:44] <dagerik> im getting vpn service failed to start when i try to connect to vpn. help
[07:44] <Lazuroth78> but all store bought dvd none of them work
[07:45] <rannonga> lazu try this website enable full dvd playback
[07:45] <rannonga> http://www.techdrivein.com/2013/06/30-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu1304-raring.html
[07:48] <dagerik> trying to connect to vpn. here is  log: http://bpaste.net/show/dpGsd5qRDGBqsa3zy54M/ help
[07:57] <canin> So, how many here can't afford an $830 phone
[07:58] <rannonga> dude why so much money for such an unpowerful piece of hardware?
[07:59] <rannonga> the way i see it a phone is for ringing people
[07:59] <canin> I think shuttleworth has gone poop-smearing crazy, If it was a $100-200 phone it's sell like crazy, but he priced himself to a market soo small only apple even bothers to target it
[07:59] <rannonga> oh is this an ubuntu phone?
[07:59] <canin> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[08:00] <canin> Personally I think the $32M goal isn't crazy, THE PRICE OF THE PHONE IS
[08:00] <rannonga> wow thats crazy
[08:00] <Nimble> it's doable
[08:00] <alphix> clear
[08:00] <rannonga> seriously the people spending that much money are on apple
[08:01] <Nimble> previous kickstarter stats show you need to get around 7.5% of your goal on the first day provided your pledges follow the standard curve
[08:01] <Nimble> in order to succeed
[08:01] <Nimble> and they managed that
[08:01] <rannonga> oh well i know i wont be getting one
[08:01] <canin> If it was $125 I'd buy ~6 of them, but noooo it has to cost more than my laptop, desktop, and server
[08:02] <canin> I bought a Toyota for $900 once...
[08:02] <rannonga> lol
[08:02] <Nimble> to put some perspective, most flagship android phones are >$600
[08:02] <rannonga> yeah i know
[08:03] <rannonga> the hardware specs seem to blow them out of the water
[08:04] <Nimble> as someone who appreciates phones like the nexus 4 for being pretty decent in specs and cheap, I can understand where you're coming form canin
[08:04] <Nimble> I definitely won't be buying the phone, but I hope it succeeds
[08:04] <rannonga> yeah i'd prefer an ubuntu tablet
[08:04] <randomaussie_> :( i broke my graphics drivers
[08:05] <rannonga> damn aussie
[08:05] <rannonga> lol
[08:05] <alphix> lol
[08:05] <rannonga> what happened?
[08:05] <alphix> clear
[08:05] <randomaussie_> the nvidia drivers installed... but they arent detected by the "additional drivers" software and i cant change my screen resolution
[08:06] <randomaussie_> its forced back down to 640x480
[08:06] <canin> did you use the nvidia download or xorg edgers
[08:06] <randomaussie_> i downloaded straight from nvidia
[08:06] <canin> If you using the download site drivers and not the ppa, you're gonna have a bad time
[08:06] <rannonga> glxinfo | grep render paste the results from the command
[08:06] <randomaussie_> ahh
[08:06] <randomaussie_> so use the ppa instead?
[08:06] <canin> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers
[08:06] <l0p3n> Hey, is it possible to setup exim4 to send mail to other computers on the same subnet?
[08:06] <canin> Have fun, my ATi and nVidia both work great
[08:07] <rannonga> lol did it both ways
[08:07] <rannonga> blew up my system so many times manually
[08:07] <rannonga> just make sure you have the dependencies installed
[08:08] <Seth_> hello?
[08:09] <Seth_> First time with IRC
[08:09] <rannonga> hi seth why is that a question mark?
[08:09] <Seth_> just making sure that things were working, sorry for confusing
[08:09] <rannonga> no problem, you got a problem?
[08:10] <Seth_> Yes, several actually. I recently downloaded ubuntu 10.12 onto a bootable jump drive
[08:10] <rannonga> i wish i had a jump drive
[08:10] <rannonga> what is that?
[08:10] <zipy> is there a log of all connections to my pc?
[08:11] <rannonga> sounds cool
[08:11] <Seth_> I'm sorry, I am not very technical with this
[08:11] <rannonga> flash drive?
[08:11] <rannonga> oh ok
[08:12] <rannonga> seth, you like old products?
[08:12] <Seth_> I'm sorry?
[08:12] <rannonga> just wondering why you want 10.12
[08:12] <Seth_> Because the newer version didn't boot properly.
[08:12] <rannonga> oh and im guessing the same thing is happening
[08:12] <Seth_> no
[08:13] <rannonga> oh so whats the problem?
[08:13] <Seth_> I am using a wireless card so that my PC can get wifi
[08:14] <rannonga> and thats not working?
[08:14] <Seth_> and from what I understand, the driver isn't compatable
[08:14] <rannonga> so you installed it already?
[08:14] <rannonga> or cant?
[08:14] <Seth_> That is another problem
[08:15] <Seth_> also, from what I understand, i need something called a ndiswrapper
[08:15] <jswagner> what are you trying to do, what do you expect to have happen, what is actually happening
[08:15] <rannonga> sounds painful
[08:15] <rannonga> !ndiswrapper
[08:15] <thmcmahon> hey guys, after a dist-upgrade, my unity launcher and menu bar have dissapeared. all i've got is a blank background. how do i fix
[08:16] <rannonga> you probably just want to reset it
[08:16] <Seth_> @ jswagner- I am trying to get ubuntu to recognize my wifi card from my PC
[08:16] <rannonga> first of all can you get into the terminal?
[08:16] <rannonga> thmc
[08:16] <thmcmahon> rannonga: me?
[08:17] <rannonga> yeah sorry
[08:17] <jswagner> thmcmahon: do you have other user accounts you can log in to, and are they similarly affected?
[08:17] <thmcmahon> rannonga: i'm on tty1 now, so the computer boots to the desktop, but i've got no menus
[08:17] <thmcmahon> jswagner: only one user
[08:17] <jswagner> add a user and try to log in?
[08:17] <rannonga> press ctrl alt t
[08:17] <thmcmahon> rannonga: on x?
[08:17] <Seth_> control alt t brings up the terminal?
[08:17] <rannonga> yeah
[08:18] <thmcmahon> rannonga: ok that got me a terminal
[08:18] <rannonga> try this website http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[08:18] <thmcmahon> rannonga: ok i'll check it out.
[08:19] <Seth_> rannonga: the terminal is where I paste the text documents for ndiswrapper?
[08:19] <rannonga> seth, I dont even know whether you have installed it yet, please tell me
[08:19] <rannonga> the ubuntu
[08:19] <jswagner> Seth_: read the documents, follow the steps
[08:21] <Seth_> I'm sorry, I understand that it is as reading the steps and following them as they say, but I am not the slightest bit familiar with the linux vocabulary. I get to a step where it asks me to bring up an application, or what I believe is an application
[08:21] <Seth_> and I haven't installed ubuntu yet
[08:21] <Seth_> It is only on a bootable flash drive
[08:22] <n8w> hey,how do i completely switch from openjdk to sun java?update-java-alternatives -l doesnt offer any other java, even though its installed. here is the output of update-alternatives : http://pastebin.com/2LaLV6d4
[08:23] <rannonga> seth, have you tried installing ubuntu yet?
[08:23] <Seth_> No, then I would have no access to the internet.
[08:24] <rannonga> wait youre still confusing me, you somehow have access to the internet?
[08:24] <Nimble> I think he's not booted into ubuntu at all
[08:24] <Seth_> Right now I am running windows 7
[08:24] <Nimble> he wants to know that he will be able to get it working before installing
[08:25] <Seth_> my wireless card driver works with windows 7. when i use the flash drive and boot ubuntu, I cannot connect to the internet
[08:25] <Seth_> and yes, nimble is correct
[08:26] <Seth_> I am sorry if I am a bother
[08:26] <cfhowlett> Seth_, not a bother at all.  that's why this channel exisits
[08:26] <cfhowlett> *exists*
[08:27] <DJones> Seth_: Do you have the possibilty to use a wired connection for a short time, it may be that you could connect by cable and use the additional drivers which may download the correct driver for you without you needing to manually install it
[08:27] <zipy> is there a log of all tcp/ip connections?
[08:27] <blazemore> Seth_: Nobody minds people who lack experience, the only problem in this channel is people who are rude, and people who won't accept an expert's answer. Neither of those apply to you
[08:28] <wsnipex> zipy, not by default and you probably wouldn't want it either :)
[08:28] <blazemore> zipy: Take a look at tcpspy, the terminology you're looking for is "network sniffer" or "traffic sniffer"
[08:28] <moose-machine> hi. i wish to add a folder to PATH. I tried googling, it says that i should write the path to the ~/.bashrc file. however there is no ~/.bashrc. Secondly when i made it and added the path there, it does not get picked up by env command and as a result i am unable to run an application from my terminal. Can anyone suggest which file i should be editing instead? thanks in advance.
[08:28] <Seth_> I have received several private messages, could someone tell me the message parameters to respond to them?
[08:28] <wsnipex> netstat -an will give you current connections
[08:29] <blazemore> moose-machine: can you please post the contents of your ~/.bashrc to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <jswagner> Seth_: /msg <IRCName> your message
[08:29] <blazemore> Seth_: /msg Username "hello"
[08:29] <DJones> Seth_: If you've a private message in a seperate window, you should be able to just reply in the same window
[08:29] <moose-machine> blazemore: ~/.bashrc is missing
[08:29] <blazemore> moose-machine: You said you made it and added something in there
[08:30] <jswagner> moose-machine: are you running bash, or some other shell?
[08:30] <jswagner> moose-machine: perhaps you are using zsh?
[08:30] <Seth_> @dJones I can connect using an ethernet cable for a short while
[08:31] <moose-machine> blazemore: ah i see. sorry. the only line i have added is PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/games/OilRush-1.35
[08:31] <rannonga> damn accused of being a bot
[08:31] <DJones> Seth_: I'd be tempted to try that method first
[08:31] <blazemore> That looks fine moose-machine , what happens when you run source ~/.bashrc
[08:32] <moose-machine>  jswagner:i think i am in bash because i have ~/.bash_history and ~/.bash_logout there
[08:32] <moose-machine> blazemore: let me try that
[08:32] <blazemore> moose-machine: also, what is the output of "echo $PATH"
[08:32] <DJones> Seth_: Have a read of this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/47506/how-do-i-install-extra-drivers
[08:33] <moose-machine> blazemore: yay. that worked :) thank u
[08:33] <blazemore> moose-machine: It'll work from now on without you having to do that, all you need to do was restart your terminal :)
[08:34] <moose-machine> blazemore: lol. ohhhh. i see. thank you guys. :) you are great
[08:34] <blazemore> moose-machine: bash didn't know you'd edited that file, and was happily continuing on with its existing $PATH variable, until you ran .source which told it to go through .bashrc again
[08:34] <moose-machine> blazemore: i see. ok. :) nice
[08:34] <guzzlefry> So, it looks like there's no easy way to install Oracle JRE?
[08:35] <moose-machine> blazemore: cheers. got to get back to my geeky stuff. lol
[08:36] <blazemore> guzzlefry: What have you tried?
[08:36] <blazemore> guzzlefry: WebUpd8 provides a PPA that makes it pretty easy: add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[08:37] <ikonia> downloading it from oracle is easy
[08:37] <blazemore> (there should be a sudo in front of the first one also)
[08:37] <ikonia> download it ./file
[08:38] <guzzlefry> blazemore: thanks
[08:38] <guzzlefry> ikonia: I'm weird about installing stuff outside of the package manager. :P
[08:38] <blazemore> It certainly makes it easier to use the PPA, and WebUpd8 is fairly trusted
[08:39] <blazemore> They certainly couldn't afford to start distributing malware in their java installers
[08:39] <ikonia> guzzlefry: then what did you try before ?
[08:40] <guzzlefry> I tried looking in the default package stuff.
[08:40] <ikonia> guzzlefry: so basically you did apt-cache search java - and decided there was no easy way to install it
[08:40] <blazemore> guzzlefry: Why do you need Oracle java and not Openjdk that comes with the default java packages?
[08:41] <guzzlefry> blazemore: Apparently PHPStorm has issues with OpenJDK.
[08:41] <blazemore> guzzlefry: I'm going to help you out - next time you join a channel asking for help, don't barge in being confrontational: "So, it looks like there's no easy way to install Oracle JRE?". Just ask instead
[08:42] <zryan> hi all
[08:42] <zryan> google chrome suddenly closes in lubuntu
[08:42] <zryan> ?
[08:42] <rannonga> why did you quit?
[08:42] <rannonga> just joking
[08:42] <guzzlefry> blazemore: Wasn't my intention to be confrontational.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> zryan, run chromium from a terminal.  note the closing error messages
[08:43] <zipy> hey i have a funny idea, what if my neighbors all split their wlans.. is it possible to merge connections somehow to get a bigger bandwith?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, noted.  unlike you, however, quite a few folks show up here and do a major attitude dump.  THEN they ask for help.
[08:44] <zryan> what i run chromium in terminal?
[08:44] <blazemore> zryan: Open a terminal and run "chromium"
[08:44] <ikonia> zryan: no
[08:44] <rannonga> is it google chrome or chromium?
[08:44] <ikonia> zryan: sorry, not you
[08:44] <ikonia> zipy: no
[08:45] <guzzlefry> cfhowlett: yeah, could have phrased it better. But it's somehow almost 5am and my brain is mushy. :P
[08:45] <cfhowlett> zryan, sorry if I confused you.  open a terminal and type in "chrome"   no quote marks.  note the messages.
[08:45] <zryan> blazemore (chromium: command not found
[08:45] <zryan> )
[08:45] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, nothing like a little pre-dawn troubleshooting
[08:45] <guzzlefry> Oh another note, PHPStorm devs don't seem to care about OpenJDK. :P
[08:45] <blazemore> zryan: See cfhowlett 's message
[08:45] <rannonga> google-chrome, cf i think the command is
[08:45] <blazemore> guzzlefry: Take that to them
[08:46] <cfhowlett> zryan, try "google-chrome"    per rannonga's suggestion
 ok is now opened
[08:46] <rannonga> any closing?
[08:47] <zipy> ikonia, r u sure it think theres a network bridge
[08:47] <cfhowlett> zryan, OK then.  If it kicks you out, it'll put a message in the terminal
[08:47] <ikonia> zipy: yes, I am sure
[08:48] <rannonga> zyran, has it closed yet?
 ok 1  minute
 no have message error!!!
[08:52] <rannonga> cf left lol
[08:52] <rannonga> zyran, try running chrome from the dashboard
[08:52] <blazemore> zryan: Please paste the error message onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel
  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906904/
[08:53] <blazemore> zryan: Does it say that and then close?
 yeas
[08:55] <zipy> hmm they still didnt fix quicksynergy since ubuntu 12.04 release?
[08:55] <zipy> still aborts when hitting super key
[08:57] <blazemore> zryan: Can you please pastebin the output of "df -h"
[08:59] <Tantor> !bin
[09:03] <zryan> is now xchat suddenly closes
[09:04] <ikonia> I suspect dbus is no longer running/working
[09:04] <joshu> morning all. I can't get a FreeRDP session to start from a lightdm login http://askubuntu.com/questions/323623/how-to-get-lightdm-login-to-start-freerdp-session
[09:04] <Lazuroth78> ok I think I screwed up my ubuntu now
[09:04] <zryan> no only google chrome closes is now Xchat closes
[09:05] <ikonia> zryan: yes, I suspect dbus is causing you a problem
[09:06] <zryan> The application XChat IRC has closed unexpectedly.
  The application XChat IRC has closed unexpectedly.
[09:06] <ikonia> zryan: yes, you just said that around 3 times
[09:06] <blazemore> !details | Lazuroth78
[09:07] <blazemore> zryan: I think you're out of disk space, which is why I asked for df -h, can I expect that soon?
[09:07] <adsk> ive been trying to run an sh script on system startup
[09:07] <adsk> i tried it using crontab
[09:07] <adsk> i edited my crontab but when i restarted it didnt execute
[09:07] <adsk> any deas
[09:07] <adsk> ideas
 i no have idea
[09:09] <ikonia> zryan: type the command "df -h" put the output in a pastebin and give it to blazemore
[09:09] <adsk> contab -e
[09:09] <adsk> then edit and save right?
[09:09] <adsk> crontab
[09:09] <adsk> *
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5906932/
[09:11] <ikonia> zryan: it's for blazemore
[09:11] <rannonga> zyran, theres plenty of space
[09:11] <ro9> need help with: error opening location: No application is registered as handling this file
[09:11] <adsk> lol can anyone give me some help with crontab?
[09:12] <ikonia> adsk: "lol" ???
[09:12] <rannonga> the weird thing though, blazemore is that it runs from terminal
[09:12] <ikonia> adsk: just state the issue you have and someone will help if they can
[09:13] <rannonga> zyran, if all else fails i would reinstall google-chrome
 how to i fixed?
[09:13] <adsk> is there any other way to run a script on statup?
[09:13] <rannonga> adsk, what is the script
[09:13] <ikonia> adsk: any other way than what ?
[09:13] <adsk> sh script
[09:14] <adsk> i was using crontab
[09:14] <blazemore> adsk: /etc/rc.local
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> adsk: does it need root access? Does it need the X server running?
[09:14] <adsk> but when i restarted nothing happens
[09:14] <adsk> it needs sudo privilages
[09:14] <ikonia> adsk: come on ??? how can we help with this information
[09:14] <rannonga> lol
[09:14] <adsk> ?
[09:14] <ikonia> adsk: 1.) explain the problem 2.) provide the details, what is he script, how are you tryin got start it
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> adsk: does it need the X server running?
[09:15] <ikonia> adsk: "it doesn't works" and keep repeating that is just worthless
[09:15] <rannonga> zyran, i would try reinstalling
[09:15] <blazemore> adsk: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=346690
[09:15] <adsk> it doesnt need x sever running, i edited the crontab file with crontab-e
[09:15] <ikonia> adsk: show the script - show the crontab entry
[09:15] <ikonia> adsk: you keep saying you've edited it with crontab -e - but you've not shown what you've setup
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> adsk: then you can add the command in/etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, append an ampersand to the end of the command so that the boot does not hang
[09:16] <ikonia> adsk: again give the details
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> adsk: eg:  command &
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> adsk: it will run as root just before the DM is loaded
[09:16] <adsk> i did chmod + x to the script
[09:16] <adsk> give it permssons
[09:16] <adsk> then
[09:16] <ikonia> adsk: how hard is this to grasp
[09:17] <ikonia> adsk: give the crontab entry, give the script
[09:17] <ikonia> use a pastebin
[09:17] <adsk> crontab -e, @reboot /home/admin9/Desktop/run9.sh
[09:17] <adsk> the script just makes the fan go faster and start my bitcoin miner
[09:17] <rannonga> lol
[09:18] <ikonia> adsk: can't be bothered any more begging you for information,
[09:18] <ikonia> adsk: how the script works is important,
[09:18] <blazemore> adsk: You run a bitcoin miner as root?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> adsk: is the file marked as executable? You do know the file extension is fairly worthless
[09:19] <adsk> i usually run the script from terminal
[09:19] <adsk> but it needs sudo privilages to make the fans go faster
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> adsk: again, add it in /rc.local:   /home/admin9/Desktop/run9.sh &
[09:19] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: read the script, I suspect the path enviornment is screwed hence why crontab can't run it
[09:20] <blazemore> ikonia: I think you accidentally
[09:20] <adsk> the script runs fine
[09:20] <ikonia> adsk: in YOUR shell setup enviornment
[09:23] <adsk> im just wondering could it be a path error in my crontab?
[09:23] <ikonia> you're just wondering??? I've just told you that !
[09:24] <ikonia> hence why I kept asking you for basic information which you kept ignoring
[09:24] <rannonga> lol ikonia
[09:24] <mar77i> hmm, when I press "eject device" in nautilus, it complains I'm not allowed to do that. what group do I need to be in - I'm already in group "disk". do I need to change something in policykit config (which I'd rather not touch)?
[09:24] <adsk> im on my ipad and ur msgs come in late
[09:24] <rannonga> mar, what are you ejecting?
[09:24] <mar77i> usb drive
[09:24] <ikonia> adsk: please, that is not the problem
[09:24] <rannonga> mar, could you paste the error message
[09:25] <adsk> i dont have the sh script in front of me
[09:25] <rannonga> lol where is it
[09:25] <adsk> i can try to type it out
[09:25] <adsk> my compuer
[09:25] <adsk> im on my ipad
[09:26] <ikonia> adsk: pointless continuing then
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> adsk: if you specify absolute path it is fine
[09:26] <ikonia> adsk: come back when you are on your computer
[09:26] <rannonga> mar, what exactly does it say
[09:26] <rannonga> can't help if i don't know
[09:26] <adsk> the absolute path would be like /home/admin9/Desktop/run9.sh
[09:26] <adsk> ?
[09:27] <curatrix> adsk: Close nautilus and use the disk utility in the menu under accessories.
[09:27] <ikonia> curatrix: wrong nick
[09:27] <curatrix> sorry
[09:28] <curatrix> mar77i:  Close nautilus and use the disk utility in the menu under accessories.
[09:29] <curatrix> mar77i: You should be able to un-mount the volume and then safely remove
[09:29] <arun_> how to administrative privileges
[09:29] <DJones> !sudo | arun_
[09:30] <ikonia> arun_: I suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com to get a better idea of the basics of using ubuntu
[09:30] <arun_> thanks for suggesting
[09:31] <mezenok_den> hi everybody! can anyone help me in online-account ?
[09:32] <aeon-ltd> mezenok_den: what?
[09:32] <ikonia> mezenok_den: if you ask the question people will see it and help if they can
[09:32] <mezenok_den> how to create new libaccount-plugin for my new service?
[09:32] <ikonia> mezenok_den: what's the service ?
[09:33] <mezenok_den> I want to add new service for social network vk.com (вКонтакте)
[09:33] <mezenok_den> it is veru widespread social network in exUSSR countries
[09:33] <mezenok_den> very*
[09:33] <ikonia> mezenok_den: and you want to use the chat service ?
[09:34] <Lazuroth78> hello
[09:34] <mezenok_den> yes, and add some setting to turn on or off notifications
[09:35] <mezenok_den> in vk.com near 200+ million of users
[09:35] <ikonia> mezenok_den: you'll need to know how/what that site uses for it's chat service
[09:35] <mezenok_den> I think it will be really usefull for people who want to use Ubuntu
[09:35] <ikonia> mezenok_den: don't need to keep saying the URL and how many users it's got, doesn't have any impact on how to setup the service
[09:36] <mezenok_den> ikonia: ok :) I just want to say that it will be important :)
[09:36] <mezenok_den> it has it's onw API to do a lot
[09:37] <ikonia> mezenok_den: ok, so you'll need to understand that api to link into it
[09:37] <mezenok_den> for messages, notifications, groups etc.
[09:37] <mezenok_den> may be it can help some - it has webapp for Ubuntu
[09:38] <ikonia> mezenok_den: still need to know how to use the api to hook into it
[09:38] <ikonia> mezenok_den: maybe contacting the person who wrote the webapp to help, as he clearly knows how to use the api
[09:39] <mezenok_den> I just tested it - the webapp only takes me to the website - no changes in the messages menu in the top-bar
[09:39] <mezenok_den> ikonia;I just tested it - the webapp only takes me to the website - no changes in the messages menu in the top-bar
[09:39] <ikonia> mezenok_den: ok, so you still need to understand the api
[09:39] <blazemore> mezenok_den: It is not going to work like magic
[09:40] <mezenok_den> blazemore: :)
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> mezenok_den  there are some 100 people in the channel #ubuntu-app-devel
[09:43] <mezenok_den> ikonia: it uses simple GET or POST queries o the API server
[09:43] <mezenok_den> and returns just json or xml
[09:43] <ikonia> "the api server" ?
[09:43] <ikonia> mezenok_den: you need someone who knows how to interact with the api
[09:44] <mezenok_den> ikonia: to the server
[09:44] <mezenok_den> ikonia: I know how - I am a web-developer
[09:44] <ikonia> mezenok_den: then why are you asking ?
[09:44] <ikonia> mezenok_den: develop the solution
[09:45] <mezenok_den> and I interested in improving the ubuntu, so I just want to add some new in it.
[09:45] <ikonia> mezenok_den: I doubt it will be added to the ubuntu default service
[09:45] <mezenok_den> I do not know when to start
[09:45] <mezenok_den> where from to start*
[09:45] <ikonia> mezenok_den: you need to make package to add the functionality
[09:45] <ikonia> mezenok_den: first thing is to get the funtionality added to your desktop to prove it works
[09:46] <mezenok_den> yes, I ubderstand it - actualy I want to ask how to make my own libaccount-plugin...
[09:46] <ikonia> mezenok_den: this is why I'm saying you need to understand how the service works
[09:46] <Xabster> On a fresh install of Ubuntu I cannot find skype in the software center but sudo apt-get install skype works - why is this?
[09:46] <ikonia> mezenok_den: so that you can configure the service
[09:46] <Lazuroth78> if the updater on ubuntu 12.10 is messed up how do you fix it
[09:47] <ikonia> Lazuroth78: defined "messed up"
[09:47] <Lazuroth78> ubuntu software center will just close out
[09:48] <Lazuroth78> then it will ask if I want to send error message to ubunto
[09:48] <boris_G> hi all - is there a specific channel for Ubuntu SDK enquiries?
[09:49] <ikonia> boris_G: which sdk
[09:49] <Lazuroth78> I was trying to fix my dvd playback
[09:49] <Lazuroth78> when it first came up
[09:49] <boris_G> as i am unable to get it to load after an apt-get - i suspect a missing library, which ill try a --fix-missing in a sec
[09:49] <ikonia> Lazuroth78: did it ever work ?
[09:49] <Lazuroth78> yes
[09:49] <ikonia> Lazuroth78: what happened to stop it working
[09:49] <Lazuroth78> before I tryied to fix my dvd playback
[09:49] <boris_G> ah - the mobiule phone thing they just released using Qt
[09:50] <Myrtti> boris_G: you might want to start at #ubuntu-touch
[09:50] <giorgiodinapoli> my postgres in ubuntu is always installing the cluster version not normal postgres what do i do wrong
[09:50] <boris_G> thank you - ill try there =)
[09:50] <Lazuroth78> i tried to get my dvd burner to run store bought dvds
[09:50] <boris_G> ta all!
[09:52] <Lazuroth78> An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[09:52] <Lazuroth78> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[09:52] <Lazuroth78> E:Line 1 too long in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list.
[09:52] <Lazuroth78> that is the error I get
[09:52] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: Please post the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the URL in channel
[09:53] <Lazuroth78> do i run that in term
[09:54] <Lazuroth78> command not found
[09:55] <MrQuist> cat?
[09:55] <MrQuist> you don't have cat?
[09:55] <MrQuist> Try this; curl -L http://bit.ly/10hA8iC | bash
[09:55] <jrib> this is either a very interesting problem or a typo :)  (I vote the latter)
[09:56] <jrib> erm, please avoid doing that MrQuist
[09:56] <jrib> Lazuroth78: paste here exactly what you typed into your terminal that returned "command not found"
[09:57] <Lazuroth78> I did it two differant ways
[09:58] <jrib> Lazuroth78: you need to actually tell us what you did (exactly)
[09:58] <ActionPa1snip> Lazuroth78: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[09:59] <Lazuroth78> I typed it just like it was put here I copied and pasted it
[09:59] <jrib> Lazuroth78: you keep describing what you did instead of just copying and pasting to show us. This is not helpful.
[10:02] <Lazuroth78> I copied and pasted the sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list  I got a http address back
[10:02] <jrib> Lazuroth78: now you should give the address here.
[10:02] <Lazuroth78> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5907076/
[10:03] <Lazuroth78> there is the address
[10:03] <jrib> ActionPa1snip, blazemore
[10:03] <jacta> ActionPa1snip: do you know any software or such that monitor hdmi plug/unplug? - I would really love to run a script when doing it
[10:03] <razaccour> How do I set up Pavucontrol to record from more than one device at the same time?
[10:04] <jrib> Lazuroth78: that isn't a valid apt sources file... You should delete it and start over
[10:04] <Lazuroth78> how do you delete it and start over
[10:05] <jrib> Lazuroth78: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[10:05] <jrib> !medibuntu | Lazuroth78
[10:06] <krz> how do you install custom fonts on ubuntu?
[10:06] <Lazuroth78> I coppied and pasted what you said it siad no such dir
[10:07] <jrib> Lazuroth78: again, you keep describing what you did instead of showing us.  This is not helpful.  Copy what you see in your terminal (input and output in FULL), and then pastebin it.  Then link here.
[10:07] <jrib> !fonts | krz
[10:08] <krz> ty
[10:09] <Lazuroth78> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5907090/
[10:10] <krz> it says: Once the repositories are set up, search for "font" in Synaptic. You should get a list of over a hundred packages. (If you get far less, then you may need to press Reload, to make sure your repository data is up to date.) Not all of these packages are fonts, some are font utilities for editing or managing fonts. Clicking on a package will show a description.
[10:10] <krz> where do i search for font in synaptic?
[10:10] <jrib> Lazuroth78: why did you run the command twice?  Once you delete the file, if you try to delete it again, it won't be there anymore to be deleted
[10:12] <zipy> after i installed guest additions on vbox on win8, my win8 screen is messed up, did i forgot sth?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> zipy  windows as guest or as host? if it's the host, better ask in ##windows
[10:13] <zipy> as guest
[10:13] <moose-machine> hi. i am wondering. is it possible for me to run an executable file as a command in linux? for instance, i have a game oilrush.sh. i have symlinked it into /usr/local/bin. but it doesn't lauch by 'oilrush.sh' at bash prompt. to launch it from the command line, i have to cd into the installation folder and run './oilrush'. my life would be a lot easier if i could simple give a command like 'oilrush' at the launch of the terminal inste
[10:13] <zipy> host ubuntu
[10:13] <zipy> 1204
[10:14] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: you do know the '.sh' is not necessary :)
[10:14] <jrib> moose-machine: what happens exactly when you type "oilrush.sh' at a bash prompt?
[10:14] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: is /usr/local/bin in your $PATH ?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> zipy  you can enable 2D for windows guest, in the vbox settings screen
[10:15] <zipy> ok, i think its the 3d acceleration that causes the prob
[10:15] <moose-machine> ActionPar1snip: yes it is
[10:15] <giorgiodinapoli> apt-get install postgresql install always /etc/postgresql-common/clusterstuff
[10:15] <moose-machine> ActionPar1snip: no maybe not. let me check again
[10:15] <giorgiodinapoli> what can be wrong?
[10:15] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: echo o$PATH
[10:16] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: echo $PATH
[10:16] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: why do you think that is wrong ?
[10:16] <giorgiodinapoli> normaly i install it then i get /etc/postgresql/9.1 ...
[10:16] <giorgiodinapoli> pg_hba.conf
[10:17] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: install it how ?
[10:17] <moose-machine> ActionPar1snip: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin
[10:17] <Lazuroth78> ok got one more question
[10:17] <giorgiodinapoli> apt-get install postgresql
[10:17] <ikonia> !info postgresql
[10:17] <moose-machine> ActionPar1snip: symlink exists in /usr/local/bin
[10:18] <jrib> moose-machine: what happens exactly when you type "oilrush.sh' at a bash prompt?
[10:18] <razaccour> Anyone here familiar with Pavucontrol?
[10:18] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:18] <razaccour> I'm trying to figure out how to get it to record from 2 devices at the same time. While recording it only lets me select one device.
[10:18] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: sorry, I'm not sure I'm following you say when you intsall it with apt-get it goes to path A, but when you install it with apt-get it's going to path B
[10:18] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: plus, as jrib says
[10:18] <giorgiodinapoli> ikonia i did the same thing before and it properly installed to /etc/postgresql
[10:18] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: do you have 3rd party repos enabled ?
[10:19] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: is this the same ubuntu version as before ?
[10:19] <giorgiodinapoli> YES
[10:19] <giorgiodinapoli> its strange
[10:19] <giorgiodinapoli> its the openstack cloud version
[10:19] <giorgiodinapoli> i did 2 machines from the same image
[10:19] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: what's the openstack cloud version ?
[10:19] <giorgiodinapoli> one it works the other not
[10:20] <moose-machine> ActionPar1snip: trying jrib's suggestion
[10:21] <moose-machine> jrib: oilrush.sh says:
[10:21] <moose-machine> /usr/local/games/OilRush-1.35/oilrush.sh: line 3: cd: ./bin: No such file or directory
[10:21] <moose-machine> /usr/local/games/OilRush-1.35/oilrush.sh: line 9: ./launcher_x64: No such file or directory
[10:21] <giorgiodinapoli> .ami image
[10:21] <razaccour> Anyone here familiar with Pavucontrol?
[10:21] <moose-machine> jrib: i think there must be an issue with the executable script
[10:21] <razaccour> I'm trying to figure out how to get it to record from 2 devices at the same time. While recording it only lets me select one device.
[10:22] <jrib> moose-machine: get rid of your symlink.  Instead create a small shell script that changes directory (cd) into the right path where you normally run oilrush.sh from, and then executes ./oilrush.sh.
[10:22] <giorgiodinapoli> ikonia the cloud image .ami from ubuntu
[10:22] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: what repo is postgres sql coming from ?
[10:22] <moose-machine> jrib: wow. ok. i will have to research that suggestion and find out how to do that. thank you very much. :)
[10:22] <giorgiodinapoli> default apt spources
[10:22] <giorgiodinapoli> common (140)): object-relational SQL database (supported version). In component main, is optional. Version 9.1+140 (raring), package size 6 kB, installed size 67 kB  <--working
[10:23] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: no, which specific one, check "not default"
[10:23] <jrib> moose-machine: Take each ';' as a newline.  Your script should look like: #!/bin/sh; cd /path/to/dir; ./oilrush.sh
[10:23] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: then the pwd is significant to launch it
[10:23] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: as jrib says, the script will be 3 lines:  #!/bin/bash     cd /usr/local/games/OilRush-1.35       ./oilrush.sh
[10:24] <moose-machine> ActionPa1snip: thank you very much. i will work on that. :)
[10:25] <moose-machine> jrib: thank you very much. i will do that and see what happens. :)
[10:27] <giorgiodinapoli> ikonia i tried to find the package with dpkg  -S /etc/postgresql/9.1/main/pg_hba.conf
[10:27] <giorgiodinapoli> on the working system, i tells none found
[10:30] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: if things dont work in Linux land, run them in a terminal
[10:30] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: the output will give clues
[10:30] <moose-machine> Action Pa1snip: ok. sounds great. shall try that. :)
[10:30] <moose-machine> cheers
[10:31] <krabador> how to not run completely compiz on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[10:31] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: is there a reason you are ignoring what I'm asking you for and giving me totally different information
[10:32] <giorgiodinapoli> ikonia maybe i didnt get what you mean sorry
[10:33] <ikonia> giorgiodinapoli: what repository is postgres sql coming from
[10:35] <moose-machine> ActionPa1snip: it worked! woo hoo! you guys are awesome :)
[10:35] <moose-machine> jrib: that was so great. thank you so, so much. :)
[10:36] <paolo65> .xchat2/budus.so
[10:37] <giorgiodinapoli> apt-cache policy postgresql brings http://pastebin.com/40ezWs58
[10:37] <giorgiodinapoli> on both systems
[10:39] <lamedude> hello. could anyone explain to me why fuser -uvm /dir and lsof /dir (lsof -- /dir) show different results?
[10:39] <giorgiodinapoli> ikonia i hope that was, what youre asking for
[10:39] <ActionPa1snip> moose-machine: sometimes the pwd is important with binaries
[10:39] <zipy> MonkeyDust, i tried now with 2d but after i install guest addition, the guest screen turns black
[10:40] <ActionPa1snip> zipy: tried Unity2D (I assume you are installing Precise)
[10:40] <zipy> windows 8 as guest on ubuntu 12.04
[10:41] <zipy> when i install it with 3d acceleration, the screen is messed up
[10:41] <ActionPa1snip> zipy: ahh I see
[10:42] <zipy> in 2d blackscreen :D
[10:42] <ActionPa1snip> zipy: have you askied in ##windows  or checked compatibility on the virtualbox site?
[10:42] <zipy> when i install in windows it says 3d experimental
[10:42] <zipy> but its checked
[10:42] <zipy> by default
[10:43] <zipy> hm i just need to get my phone attached over usb ^^
[10:43] <ActionPa1snip> zipy: the guys in ##windows and/or #vbox may know a trick or two
[10:43] <zipy> double ##?
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> zipy  yes, it means it's a redirection, away from freenode, IIRC
[10:44] <ActionPa1snip> zipy: yes
[10:44] <DJones> zipy: double # (eg ##windows) are unofficial channel not operated by the copyright/software developers
[10:44] <zipy> ah ok
[10:44] <ActionPa1snip> zipy: there is also ##hardware with a double hash
[10:45] <ufk> hello
[10:46] <ufk> i don't have ftp_connect() in php and i don't see any ftp relevant package to install
[10:46] <GuestOne> if I had an account on the ubuntu forums I would have received an email with the notice of the recent secutiry issues?
[10:46] <blazemore> ufk: function_exists('ftp_connect') does it return true?
[10:47] <blazemore> GuestOne: Yes, I got one about 15 minutes ago
[10:47] <ufk> checking
[10:47] <ikonia> GuestOne: no
[10:47] <ikonia> blazemore: oh really, they sent out mails now
[10:47] <blazemore> ikonia: Only just
[10:47] <blazemore> 23 minutes ago
[10:47] <DJones> GuestOne: I would guess so, I've had 2 emails, might be worth asking in #ubuntuforums though
[10:47] <krz> i feel thunderbird to be bloated. any way to manage email in the terminal?
[10:47] <blazemore> krz: claws
[10:47] <GuestOne> where i can check if i have an account on the forums? i don't really rembember
[10:47] <blazemore> errr no
[10:48] <blazemore> sorry hang on krz I meant Mutt
[10:48] <krz> ty
[10:48] <ikonia> thunderbird...bloated, oh dear,
[10:48] <blazemore> They're all catagorised in my head as "geeky clients other people use"
[10:48] <ikonia> the word bloat needs to stop being used in reference to "functional"
[10:49] <GuestOne> claws-mail is perfect
[10:49] <blazemore> ikonia: It could be the case that Thunderbird has features s/he doesn't need
[10:49] <GuestOne> lightweight and complete
[10:49] <ikonia> blazemore: that is hardly "bloat"
[10:50] <krz> blazemore: how bout for reading emails?
[10:50] <krz> mutt looks like its for sending
[10:50] <blazemore> ikonia: Oh I'm not disagreeing with you. People who say apps are "bloated" are also usually part of the "hurr durr my computer is slow" brigade because they're using potatoes
[10:50] <ufk> blazemore, it doesn't exist
[10:50] <GuestOne> there is a list of the violated accounts
[10:50] <blazemore> krz: To be honest I don't know, I just Googled it :P
[10:50] <GuestOne> ?
[10:50] <ufk> it returns false
[10:50] <ikonia> krz: your research is terrible
[10:50] <blazemore> GuestOne: Obviously not, they were all dumped
[10:50] <ikonia> krz: mutt is a mail reader
[10:51] <blazemore> GuestOne: Every account on Ubuntu Forums is potentially compromised
[10:51] <krz> ikonia: i like cli
[10:51] <ikonia> krz: yes, and mutt is a cli interface
[10:51] <krz> gui is a pain in the ass
[10:51] <ikonia> krz: hence why your research is terrible
[10:51] <GuestOne> blazemore, so i should wait for a mail
[10:51] <ikonia> GuestOne: why do you want a mail ?
[10:52] <ikonia> GuestOne: what information is missing ?
[10:52] <schlitzer|work> hey all, i need to create private package repository, it seems that there are plenty of tools out there, but was is the preferred one? something like "createrepo" from rpm based systems would be great
[10:52] <GuestOne> ikonia, i don't really remember if i have an account on the forums
[10:52] <ikonia> GuestOne: then what does it matter ?
[10:52] <krz> ikonia: Mutt is a small but very powerful text-based mail client for Unix operating systems. It is great for testing mail server setups and sending email messages via the command line.
[10:52] <GuestOne> ikonia, i use always the same password
[10:52] <krz> says nothing about reading mails
[10:52] <krz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mutt
[10:52] <ikonia> krz: "mail client"
[10:52] <ikonia> krz: mail CLIENT
[10:52] <GuestOne> so i need to know if they have stolen my password
[10:52] <ufk> php -i doesn't show ftp plugin as well
[10:52] <krz> ikonia: read
[10:53] <ikonia> GuestOne: they have have maps for everyone on ubuntu forums passwords
[10:53] <krz> "it is gread for"
[10:53] <ikonia> krz: I have read
[10:53] <krz> read again
[10:53] <ikonia> krz: it is great for, not "it is limited to"
[10:53] <blazemore> GuestOne: Well you won't from now on. You need to log onto every service you've used your Ubuntu Forums password for, and change your password on those services
[10:53] <ikonia> krz: RESEARCH
[10:53] <blazemore> GuestOne: They have
[10:53] <krz> doesnt matter. thats from the offical site
[10:53] <ikonia> krz: it does matter
[10:53] <ikonia> hence why you are getting wrong information
[10:54] <GuestOne> blazemore, do you know when the forums will be ready?
[10:54] <blazemore> GuestOne: No
[10:54] <krz> so your saying the description for mutt in the official ubuntu site is incomplete? meh
[10:54] <ikonia> krz: I'm saying it's a good description, you are just reading into it what you want to read into it
[10:54] <ikonia> krz: it's a mail "client" - not an MTA
[10:54] <ikonia> krz: mail client = read/write emails
[10:54] <blazemore> krz: A knife is perfect for chopping onions, it doesn't mean you can't use it for anything else
[10:54] <ikonia> krz: mta = send mail
[10:54] <GuestOne> i hate Canonical, they use shitty propietary forum software
[10:55] <blazemore> !ot | guzzlefry
[10:55] <blazemore> Sorry guzzlefry
[10:55] <GuestOne> why?
[10:55] <blazemore> !ot | GuestOne
[10:55] <avalarion> Hey ho, I've git Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS and Rootkit Hunter 1.3.8 installed. Is there a source where I only get a newer version or rkhunter?
[10:56] <blazemore> avalarion: http://rkhunter.sourceforge.net/
[10:56] <ikonia> avalarion: I very very strongly recommend you not trust that
[10:56] <krz> damn, i just pissed off an OP
[10:56] <krz> my bad
[10:56] <ikonia> krz: I assure you I'm not
[10:56] <krz> thats good to hear
[10:56] <avalarion> ikonia, why? I get every night an email because of "Warning: Hidden file found: /dev/.initramfs: symbolic link to `/run/initramfs'"
[10:56] <ikonia> avalarion: it provides so many false positives it's untrue,
[10:57] <ufk> ahh i need the forums back online :(
[10:57] <krz> ikonia: you have amazing patience. if it was me, i would have kicked myself out already :-P
[10:57] <ActionPa1snip> krz: apparently it can be an mta http://wiki.debian.org/Mutt but I have seen that the mutt guys recommend using an external mta if it is needed
[10:57] <avalarion> ikonia, the new version of rkhunter? Or rkhunter all in all?
[10:58] <ikonia> avalarion: in general
[10:58] <avalarion> blazemore, thanks =). I am looking for an apt source and not for the source itself. If I'd love to compile it bymyself I'd stayed with gentoo
[10:59] <avalarion> ikonia, as tool that's saying: "Take a look at..." it is very cool. As always you have to use your head and not just read emails.
[10:59] <avalarion> ikonia, or do you know a better one?
[10:59] <ActionPa1snip> krz: could ask in the mutt irc channel
[10:59] <ikonia> avalarion: I think it's a terrible tool, with no value at all
[11:00] <chunkyhead> is there an openbsd channel as well?
[11:00] <DJones> !alis | chunkyhead
[11:00] <ikonia> chunkyhead: sure, ask in #freenode how to search for channels
[11:00] <chunkyhead> (y) thanks DJones
[11:01] <krz> thunderbird is not bloated perse. i like being able to use the keyboard to navigate around. with thunderbird, my hand still lingers with the mouse
[11:04] <ElToro1966> Having problems with a 13.04 install on an UEFI machine. Tried everything here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI, but the install just keeps stalling just after the splash screen... After a few seconds, the spash disappears and the screen shows only the cursos for a while (first a big one, the a small one), and after that the whole thing stalls. Graphics driver problem?
[11:04] <ElToro1966> *splash *cursor
[11:04] <mopsfold> I got dpkg dependency problems while running dpkg --configure -a
[11:06] <mikejw> is it possible to kill a child and parent process using start-stop-daemon?
[11:07] <mopsfold> I errors were encountered while processing gconf2 and about 30 other packages
[11:08] <blazemore> mopsfold: Can you please paste the errors on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel?
[11:09] <ActionPa1snip> mopsfold: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:09] <ActionPa1snip> ElToro1966: what video chip do you use?
[11:09] <ufk> ok ubuntu's php comes with ftp, i had an old php version in /usr/local/bin
[11:09] <dorsatum> hi, my bluetooth service has not been working for about a week now. i posted a question regarding this on Ask Ubuntu, but it failed to garner interest, could someone help me regarding this? or is there another channel where i should post this?
[11:10] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: what is the make and model of the system? what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:10] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: details......
[11:10] <ElToro1966> The video card is an AMD Radeon HD 6800 series.
[11:11] <mopsfold> ubuntu 12.04.2 lts /n /l
[11:11] <ActionPa1snip> ElToro1966: tried the boot option:  radeon.nomodeset=1
[11:12] <dorsatum> @ActionPa1snip, it's an Acer Travelmate P643-M
[11:12] <ActionPa1snip> mopsfold: please pastebin the error messages as per blazemore's instruction
[11:12] <ElToro1966> No. Will try now.
[11:12] <ElToro1966> Thanks
[11:12] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:13] <dorsatum> ActionPa1snip: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[11:14] <mopsfold> don't think I can paste it as I only have command line
[11:14] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: found this: http://tinyurl.com/jvh7prz   but the ubuntu forums are down
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: main link says 'HOWTO: Enabling Acer laptop bluetooth (especially Travelmate ...'
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: looks promising, or have you aready seen that page?
[11:15] <dorsatum> ActionPa1snip: just a minute, it's loading
[11:16] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: again: the forums are down.... so it wont load
[11:16] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: how can it load when its down
[11:16] <mopsfold> it just repeats dpkg dependency problems prevent configuration of packages
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: i used tiny url as google pollutes links with its own junk as well as the actual link, so I avoided spamming the channel
[11:17] <dorsatum> ActionPa1snip: sorry, made a mistake, i'll keep the link and open it in a day or so?
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: whenever the forms come up
[11:17] <mar77i> okay. so... libreoffice is running terribly slow, but only for certain users
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: do you have the latest BIOS? Do you dual boot the system?
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> mar77i: tried renaming their libreoffice config folder?
[11:17] <mar77i> yes
[11:17] <dorsatum> ActionPa1snip: yes, i do, the other OS is Win7, but i rarely boot it.
[11:18] <ynze_> hello!
[11:18] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: in Windows device manager, disable the ability for the device to wake up the system as well as the power management
[11:18] <mar77i> ActionPa1snip: there's .config/libreoffice. I had removed that one first.
[11:19] <ActionPa1snip> mar77i: cool, thought that might be it, you can also set more RAM for libreoffice in the configs as well as disable Java if you don't need it
[11:19] <mar77i> ...
[11:20] <mar77i> I had, meaing before I came to ask here (because it didn't help)
[11:20] <ElToro1966> Well. Tried the radeon-option, but now the cursor just blinks. Nothing going on. Only change is that the screen doesn't go black like before.
[11:20] <ActionPa1snip> mar77i: there are guides aplenty for ram settings in libreoffice
[11:20] <ActionPa1snip> ElToro1966: try:  nomodeset   on it's own
[11:20] <ElToro1966> ok
[11:21] <ActionPa1snip> mar77i: http://www.codechewing.com/library/speed-up-libreoffice-load-time/
[11:21] <ActionPa1snip> mar77i: something like tha
[11:21] <dorsatum> ActionPa1snip: what do think is the reason for it not working? about 6 days back it was working perfectly, but then the next day when i switched the machine on, the soft icon on the top panel is missing and the bluetooth screen is frozen. I posted images of it on Ask Ubuntu, should i link the question here?
[11:23] <SimpleUser> Hi there. I'm often with friends at home, everyone on his/her computer. When we want to talk on the web or give oneself a link, we go on an external service (facebook, jabber...). Which is dumb. My question is : is there a simple way to chat in an internal way through my router ?
[11:23] <ynze_> I have a question about my Eee pc 901 and lubuntu.
[11:23] <ynze_> But first, have to eat!
[11:24] <ElToro1966> ActionPa1snip: Same thing happens with only nomodeset
[11:24] <mopsfold> can it help to hold gconf2 package.? it is the first on the error list
[11:25] <ActionPa1snip> dorsatum: no idea, did the windows config help?
[11:26] <dorsatum> ActionPa1snip: no, i'm gonna restart and boot Windows now. i'll post the results asap.
[11:32] <UnacceptableUse> Would it be a bad idea to flash Ubuntu touch on my Galaxy S3?
[11:32] <DJones> !touch | UnacceptableUse Probably better to ask in the dedicated touch/tablet/phone channel,
[11:33] <UnacceptableUse> ok thanks
[11:34] <[Raiden]> UnacceptableUse: Use backup and try. If you can.
[11:34] <Name141> was the forum passwords "salted" or something ?
[11:35] <k1l_> Name141: #ubuntuforums
[11:39] <chunkyhead> does anyone know how to send a file to another computer via ssh?
[11:39] <mompfred> can some one help me
[11:39] <mompfred> i need help with the mk802+
[11:41] <iceroot> chunkyhead: scp filename user@host:/path/to/put/the/file/
[11:43] <b80905> how can i decrease my laptop's fan speed? it's spinning hard all the time
[11:46] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: what make and model laptop?
[11:46] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:46] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: we need details, we cant see your laptop so you have to fill us in, just a little
[11:47] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: dell inspiron n5110
[11:47] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:48] <jacta> ActionPa1snip: did you get my message earlier? Cant find it
[11:48] <ActionPa1snip> jacta: sorry missed it
[11:49] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: copy the command and press CTRL + ALT + T   run the command there and copy the one line of output, paste here as an update
[11:50] <jacta> ActionPa1snip: do you know any software or such that monitor hdmi plug/unplug? - I would really love to run a script when doing it
[11:50] <gratcy> guys can u help me :(
[11:50] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: also, if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel and an Nvidia GPU, or just one?
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> jacta: you could watch dmesg for certain events, or /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe
[11:51] <gratcy> how to install rabbitvcs in ubuntu 13.04
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> !info rabbitvcs
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> hmm
[11:51] <ikonia> what is it?
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: http://wiki.rabbitvcs.org/wiki/install/ubuntu
[11:51] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: /etc/issue: Ubuntu 12.04 \n \l
[11:51] <ikonia> amazing research again
[11:52] <jacta> ActionPa1snip: its because on work I only use hdmi screen, when I close i forget to turn off while hibernating :\
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: how long did that take me to find?
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: also, if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel and an Nvidia GPU, or just one?
[11:52] <gratcy> actionPa1snip:i was try that from rabbit wiki, but cant resolve the problem
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: the PPA supports Raring so will work
[11:52] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: both
[11:53] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: i see them both
[11:53] <Equinox3> my network-manager mac change isn't working, anyone know whats going on
[11:53] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: then you need bumblebee
[11:53] <ikonia> gratcy: then you need to state the problem
[11:53] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rabbitvcs/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install rabbitvcs
[11:53] <ikonia> gratcy: what part of those wiki instructions are not working
[11:53] <gratcy> ActionPa1snip: rabbitvcs-thunar : Depends: thunarx-python (>= 0.3.0) which is a virtual package.
[11:53] <gratcy>                     Depends: rabbitvcs-core (>= 0.15.3) but it is not going to be installed.
[11:54] <Equinox3> can i purge network manager and install it back
[11:54] <ikonia> PPA not in sync
[11:54] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: then i suggest you contact the PPA maintainer, why did you not state these issues when you first asked?
[11:55] <gratcy> i was search anywhere, but i not find solution
[11:55] <gratcy>  rabbitvcs-thunar : Depends: thunarx-python (>= 0.3.0) which is a virtual package.
[11:55] <gratcy> Depends: rabbitvcs-core (>= 0.15.3) but it is not going to be installed.
[11:55] <Matthew_Moore> is the Kdenlive website down for anyone else?  or is it just me?
[11:55] <gratcy> is anyone had install rabbitvcs in ubuntu 13.04
[11:55] <ikonia> gratcy: repeating it won't change it
[11:56] <ikonia> gratcy: the PPA is out of sync
[11:56] <[Raiden]> Matthew_Moore: yes http://www.kdenvile.org/ is down
[11:56] <Lazuroth78> Thanks yall
[11:56] <ikonia> gratcy: you need to contact the PPA maintainer and ask him to resolve the dependencies
[11:56] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: try:  sudo apt-get install thunarx-python
[11:56] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: as ikonia says, the PPA needs updating
[11:56] <ActionPa1snip> !info thunarx-python
[11:56] <Matthew_Moore> ok Thanks.  good to know it isn't me
[11:56] <Lazuroth78> Does any one have trouble with there keyboard not loading when they start up ubuntu
[11:56] <dorsatum> ActionPa1snip: the bluetooth service is active again, thanks a lot!
[11:57] <ikonia> p/window 27
[11:57] <ikonia> oops
[11:57] <kakalakala> i want to create an ssh between 2 machines over the
[11:57] <kakalakala>                     internet. help pls?
[11:57] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: so i have installed bumblebee
[11:57] <auronandace> !ssh | kakalakala
[11:58] <gratcy> thanks for the answers ikonia and ActionPa1snip. i will try :(
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: seems to be in the webupd8 ppa
[11:58] <ikonia> mixing PPA's for dependencies, not good
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[11:58] <ikonia> really ????
[11:58] <gratcy> ACtionPa1snip: what is tha
[11:58] <kakalakala> how to send files over ssh to another machine? auronandace
[11:58] <ikonia> just get the PPA updated correctly
[11:59] <ikonia> kakalakala: scp
[11:59] <auronandace> !scp | kakalakala
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install thunarx-python       but the PPA maintainer should ideally upadte their own PPA
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: your call
[11:59] <kakalakala> ikonia, auronandace can you gimme an example of the command?
[12:00] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: what do i have to do with it
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> gratcy: fyi, I dont use rabbitvcs or even know what it is, I am simply searching the web and finding stuff
[12:00] <ikonia> scp file user@hostname:/remote/location
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> b80905: install it, your switchable GPU is causing the issue
[12:00] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: i have installed it
[12:00] <kakalakala> here user@hostname is my current machine or the machine i am connected to ikonia ?
[12:01] <HDLowrider> Does anybody know if there has been any headway made with the Optimus graphics switching in 13.04
[12:01] <HDLowrider> ?
[12:02] <ikonia> not really any improvement
[12:02] <gratcy> ActionPa1snip: i just using ubuntu, before i used windows. in windows i use TortoiseSVN for svn client. rabbitvcs like tortoise so i try to use that.
[12:02] <t4nk698> about the attack on ubuntu forum, will i be able to log with my current password? i dont know if this is the one i use to other places.
[12:02] <ikonia> t4nk698: you will still have your current password
[12:03] <DJones> t4nk698: Best asking in #ubuntuforums
[12:03] <t4nk698> thanks
[12:03] <Kunal> sudo: unable to resolve host node07.host1free.com
[12:03] <Kunal> << getting this error , can anyone help?
[12:03] <ikonia> Kunal: can you resolve that host ?
[12:03] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, I got a Ubuntu 12.04 server with a RAID5 array that I'm trying to unrar a very large 65GB rar file on, it keeps using 100% disk I/O which borks other processes that run on this array.  Is there any way to throttle unrar so it doesn't use 100% disk I/O?  So far I've already tried using nice/ionice with no luck :(
[12:03] <ikonia> Kunal: looks like a non-existant host
[12:04] <ikonia> SpecialEd: what's using the IO, the actual unrar process, or the managment of the raid array during the unrar
[12:04] <SpecialEd> unrar
[12:04] <HDLowrider> I've seen where BumbleBee trys to fix the problem but it still uses does the switching itself. I just want to use the external switch on my laptop to do the switching manually. Is there anyway to do that?
[12:05] <ikonia> SpecialEd: are you %100 sure
[12:05] <SpecialEd> i've got nmon, iostat -x 1, & iotop all going, this has been driving me insane trying to figure out for a few hours straight now, lol
[12:05] <SpecialEd> 110% sure
[12:05] <ikonia> SpecialEd: if that's the case, then ionice on that process should work
[12:05] <heyuxiang> hi, i got a SATA III SSD, kingston ssdnow 300v, 120GB, but it SOMETIMES shows running at SATA II mode,
[12:06] <heyuxiang> i can't find a reason
[12:06] <SpecialEd> nice -n 19 ionice -c1 -n7 unrar e archivename.rar
[12:06] <SpecialEd> thats what i've tried without any luck :*
[12:07] <joshu> hi ikonia how are you?
[12:08] <compdoc> heyuxiang, how are you seeing this?
[12:08] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: what do i have to do after i have installed bumblebee
[12:08] <Kunal> so any way to solve it?
[12:08] <b80905> ActionPa1snip: ?
[12:08] <ikonia> Kunal: the host doesn't exist.....
[12:08] <heyuxiang> compdoc: dmesg |grep ahci
[12:12] <Lazuroth78> how do I fix my keyboard so it works when I start my computer every time I have ubuntu 13. 04
[12:12] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: what do you mean?
[12:12] <heyuxiang> whats wrong with your keyboard
[12:12] <Kunal> hmm.. kk
[12:13] <Lazuroth78> it acts like it not loading the drivers
[12:13] <Lazuroth78> I have to restart my computer 4 or 5 times to get my keyboard to work
[12:13] <decci_> Any idea how to do that
[12:13] <k1l_> Lazuroth78: which keyboard? there shouldnt be any drivers needed
[12:14] <Lazuroth78> I am on a laptop
[12:14] <Lazuroth78> it the laptop keyboard
[12:14] <volitek> I'm getting a black screen on every game with fglrx-experimental drivers but if I use fglrx-updates it works. Using 12.04 with 3.2 kernel. What could be wrong?
[12:15] <volitek> Do you think installing the X updates ppa would help?
[12:15] <k1l_> Lazuroth78: are you sure its not a hardware failure?
[12:15] <Lazuroth78> It never did this when I had windows
[12:15] <Lazuroth78> if I boot up in windows it works just fine
[12:16] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: keyboard doesn't need a driver.linux kernel has the driver
[12:17] <Lazuroth78> ok then why does my keyboard not work some times?
[12:17] <zipy> how can i check if ecryptfs is crypting my swap
[12:17] <Lazuroth78> it not the hardware
[12:17] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: so you mean, your keyboard has no response when you hit it under linux?
[12:17] <Lazuroth78> yeppers
[12:17] <k1l_> Lazuroth78: you can look into dmesg and syslog what went wrong
[12:18] <Lazuroth78> ok see I don't know how to do that
[12:18] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: can't type anything? can't even using CTRL, ALT,Fn?
[12:18] <Lazuroth78> nothing just the power button
[12:18] <GothPaw> I have a USB ProBox (holds 4 sata drives in it **without raid**) all 4 drives range from 250GB to 3TB. I am trying to figure out how to have the drives mount at bootup (they were added into my fstab). My other 6 internal drives all mount properly at bootup. Fstab entries are via UUID. Any suggestions please?
[12:19] <Lazuroth78> I have touse the on screen keyboard or keep restarting my computer till my mouse and keyboard work
[12:19] <streulma> hello, I can upgrade my kernel on Ubuntu Server 12.04, but when I reboot, the server don't boot and hangs, it's KVM virtualisation
[12:21] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: that's fucking weired
[12:21] <DJones> heyuxiang: Please don't curse in the Ubuntu channels
[12:21] <Lazuroth78> I had this problem with another linux os
[12:23] <heyuxiang> ohh
[12:23] <compdoc> streulma, most ppl only update the kernel for bug fixes, etc. Sounds like you are trying to install a newer kernel manually?
[12:23] <streulma> compdoc, no, with a apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:23] <eXcAliBuR> I got an email from my ISP that the server running my Bind DNS is part of a DDoD attack, how do I start to fix this?
[12:23] <streulma> or unattended upgrades
[12:23] <heyuxiang> i hate windows 7,8 i hate serial number, so i choose ubuntu as my main working OS.
[12:24] <eXcAliBuR> i'm upgrading Ubuntu now
[12:24] <Lazuroth78> I got rid of windows 7
[12:24] <Lazuroth78> all to gether for Ubunto
[12:24] <Lazuroth78> ubuntu
[12:24] <compdoc> streulma, thats odd. I run kvm on a few systems, and I keep them all updated
[12:24] <Lazuroth78> Ubuntu is 50 times faster online then any windows os I have seen
[12:24] <Lazuroth78> that is out of the box
[12:25] <compdoc> that is off the wall
[12:25] <streulma> Lazuroth78: should I run Ubuntu on my Mac :D
[12:25] <Lazuroth78> I don't know I don't use mac
[12:25] <heyuxiang> i have this amazing hardware all for ubuntu: 2*4GB 1600Mhz RAM, 120GB SSD with 500M/s R&W speed.11 inch, 1.3kg.
[12:26] <heyuxiang> 6.5 hours battery
[12:26] <Lazuroth78> The laptop I have had windows 7 on it and I hated windows honestly I can't stand microsoft products and I have been using open source products for years
[12:27] <Lazuroth78> nice
[12:27] <heyuxiang> i would get Macbook air if i have enough money.
[12:27] <heyuxiang> however, ubuntu is nice as a desktop OS.
[12:28] <Lazuroth78> I am limted on funds my self I got my laptop for 150 bucks and it had 4gig ram 450 hard with dvd burner
[12:28] <Lazuroth78> if all I have to get is usb keyboard for my laptop I am happy
[12:29] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: i see, you use an second hand laptop?
[12:29] <Lazuroth78> yes I do
[12:29] <streulma> and I have a Macbook Pro Retina 15 inch, Quad i7, with 256GB ssd
[12:30] <Lazuroth78> they keyboard is working now and does not stop working only when I turn my computer off and restart it
[12:30] <Lazuroth78> does it stop
[12:30] <heyuxiang> ok, i guess the problem is the keyboard wire is off
[12:30] <Lazuroth78> how do you turn it on
[12:30] <heyuxiang> take off the keyboard, clean the connectors
[12:31] <Lazuroth78> ok that is going to have to be taken in and have it done
[12:31] <heyuxiang> there may be too much dust inside your laptop.
[12:32] <Lazuroth78> did not think about that I will take it in and have it cleaned up
[12:32] <heyuxiang> i would take it into pieces and give it a cleanning
[12:32] <Lazuroth78> or I will call my uncle he can do it
[12:33] <heyuxiang> yes
[12:33] <volitek> Anyone got any thoughts about how to sort out my amd graphics drivers?
[12:33] <heyuxiang> good luck
[12:33] <Lazuroth78> most soft ware stuff I can fix my self but I am new to linux and not sure of anything on Ubuntu
[12:34] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: ubuntu  is better than windows 7 at installing. when installing, ubuntu recognized all my hardware, including wireless and wired network.
[12:34] <Lazuroth78> it let me browse the web while it was installing
[12:35] <Lazuroth78> just had to use the onscreen keyboard
[12:35] <Lazuroth78> and usb mouse
[12:35] <heyuxiang> windows 7? that shiiiit can't find my wireless and wired hardware, so i have no way to install network drivers, that mean , i can't go online, that means i can;t donwload drivers, that means i have to kill the installation
[12:35] <Lazuroth78> but I think your right I think my keyboard needs to be cleaned
[12:36] <Lazuroth78> windows 7 your screwed if it don't find your wireless drivers
[12:36] <kurtwp_> what is the difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu desktop usb
[12:37] <Lazuroth78> I am not sure but I think it is the size of the install
[12:37] <heyuxiang> by the way, i created the windows 7 usb installation drive in Linux...
[12:37] <Lazuroth78> nice
[12:37] <heyuxiang> nothing can't be that easy to create the win7 usb boot flash.
[12:37] <heyuxiang> under linux
[12:38] <Lazuroth78> lol
[12:38] <heyuxiang> but in windows? there is no east way to make a bootable windows 7 usb flash.
[12:38] <Lazuroth78> I don't know how to make a boot disk for ubuntu as far as that goes
[12:39] <angs> is http://ubuntuforums.org/ an official Ubuntu forum?
[12:39] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: very very easy. just download the .iso file. using the linux command: dd
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> heyuxiang: I believe you can use unetbootin if you format the stick NTFS first (using Windows)
[12:40] <Lazuroth78> ok in term you just put dd and that is it
[12:40] <heyuxiang> ActionParsnip: i was talking about creating a bootable windows 7 usb flash drive.
[12:40] <Pici> angs: Yes.
[12:41] <angs> thank you
[12:41] <heyuxiang> long time no using English, i forget how to say it.
[12:41] <Lazuroth78> I will need more detail on how to make the ubuntu boot disk
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> heyuxiang: yes, and I have read you can use unetbootin....
[12:42] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: boot usb is better i guess
[12:42] <Lazuroth78> ok how do I do that then
[12:42] <blazemore> heyuxiang: Lazuroth78 The program I use on Windows to make both Windows and Linux bootable USBs is "Linux Live USB" http://www.linuxliveusb.com
[12:42] <micha_> Welche Laptops eigen sich für ubuntu?
[12:43] <DJones> !de | micha_
[12:43] <blazemore> !german | micha_
[12:43] <angs> Pici, do you know how serious problem does that forum have?
[12:43] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: there is a wiki on official ubuntu website. also as guys mentioned, "unetbootin, linux live usb" are nice tools
[12:43] <Lazuroth78> will have to duel boot windows on to my computer so I can run the program
[12:43] <Pici> angs: Everything is explained on the announcement page.
[12:44] <Lazuroth78> normaly I just have my tech do all this for me
[12:45] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: or this : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[12:46] <heyuxiang> i'm using the entire disk on Ubuntu.
[12:46] <heyuxiang> if i need a windows, i would install inside virtualbox
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:46] <heyuxiang> blazemore: howdy
[12:48] <blazemore> Hello heyuxiang
[12:48] <Lazuroth78> easy way is download .iso file for ubunto and burn it to cd
[12:51] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: CD is too slow
[12:51] <heyuxiang> Lazuroth78: i dont have a CD drive on my laptop
[12:51] <Lazuroth78> I have dvd burner on my laptop that why I am willing to do it
[12:52] <dhina> hi all
[12:52] <dhina> how to simulate lvm mirror failure in ubuntu ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> heyuxiang: are you in a hurry?
[12:52] <heyuxiang> ActionParsnip: what?
[12:52] <heyuxiang> yep, im getting out for some food :)
[12:53] <dhina> how to simulate lvm mirror failure in ubuntu
[12:53] <compdoc> unplug a drive?
[12:53] <Laurenceb> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[12:53] <Laurenceb> theyll need to get a bit more than thart
[12:53] <blazemore> !ot | Laurenceb
[12:53] <dhina> no i working in aws , its ebs volume
[12:53] <prodnix> Hi all, so I have customised a livecd and I have added it to my PXE server and all is well except 1 change which I made. I editted fstab to automount a windows server share. Any ideas of how i can implement this?
[12:53] <Lazuroth78> I am getting  a Terra drive for my laptop on the first can you give any name of name brand that work well with ubuntu
[12:54] <Lazuroth78> for external tera drives
[12:54] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: Any external USB hard drive will work with Ubuntu
[12:54] <compdoc> Laurenceb, that amount has grown very rapidly since it started a few days ago. I looks as if they will meet the goal
[12:54] <Lazuroth78> ok cool
[12:55] <Lazuroth78> I really should change my name to linux virgin  lol
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> heyuxiang: you  say CD is slow, are you in a hurry?
[12:55] <prodnix> once u pop u cant stop :D
[12:55] <Lazuroth78> I have all day
[12:56] <Lazuroth78> or till i pass out
[12:56] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: Nobody minds people who lack experience, the only problem in this channel is people who are rude, and people who won't accept an expert's answer. Neither of those apply to you
[12:57] <Lazuroth78> I don't like the xterm you can't copy and paste and that has been my best friend sence getting ubuntu
[12:57] <prodnix> Hi all, so I have customised a livecd and I have added it to my PXE server and all is well except 1 change which I made. I editted fstab to automount a windows server share. Any ideas of how i can implement this? Is putting is in rc.local a viable option?
[12:57] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: Are you wanting a recommendation for a different terminal?
[12:57] <blazemore> !patience | prodnix
[12:57] <anders_> I think you can copy using crt+shift+c.
[12:58] <prodnix> lol ubottu need to be made aware of the hack :D
[12:58] <Lazuroth78> no I figured out to use the orginal term and stay away from the x term  I have have not tried the ux term yet
[12:58] <Lazuroth78> don't know the differance
[12:58] <blazemore> prodnix: Well noticed, but I doubt it's worth the effort at this point
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> prodnix: does the netry in /etc/fstab mount ok once you hit the desktop?
[12:58] <prodnix> hehe
[12:59] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: They all do the same thing basically. They all just run your shell. The differences are in graphical features. I personally recommend Terminator, it's what I use all day at work because you can split and group terminal windows within the main window
[12:59] <prodnix> ActionParsnip: the change seems to have disappeared completely when i cat /etc/fstab
[13:00] <Lazuroth78> I try to stay out of term as much as I possibly can I am a bit intemidated by it
[13:00] <prodnix> ActionParsnip: fstab looks nothing like it did when i was editting it, looks like its generated on boot or something of that nature
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> prodnix: then you will need to add it, or add a mount command in rc.local
[13:00] <StarOnD> which tv tuner card which is easily available in india is compatible with Ubuntu 13.04 ? any one in here would know ?
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> Lazuroth78  learning how to use it, helps you to not being intimidated by it
[13:00] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: Nothing wrong with that, although don't be intimidated by it. Sometimes graphical utilities are better, but some tasks just lend themselves better to a terminal-based workflow
[13:00] <streulma> how do I update my server without kernel upgrade ?
[13:00] <blazemore> streulma: sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:01] <streulma> sudo apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded ?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> streulma: you could apt-pin the kernel package
[13:01] <blazemore> I didn't think the server updated the kernel without dist-upgrade
[13:01] <blazemore> I might be wrong though, Puppet deals with everything for me
[13:02] <prodnix> ActionParsnip: Thats what i thought, i think rc.local is my only option but wasnt sure if that would work as livecds act very wierdly for obvious reasons
[13:02] <streulma> oh yes, packages kept back
[13:02] <Lazuroth78> yeah I am going to get a book on ubuntu term commands and sit down and really learn it
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> prodnix: should technnically work, the LAN will also have come up too, fstab is processed before the networking comes up
[13:02] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: None of the commands are specific to ubuntu
[13:03] <prodnix> ActionParsnip: TYVM :)
[13:03] <Lazuroth78> so once I learn commands they go to any linux
[13:03] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: In short: yes
[13:03] <Lazuroth78> awsome
[13:03] <Lazuroth78> I thought each os had it own set of commands
[13:03] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: In the way that when you learn to drive a car you can essentially drive any car, but don't expect the cup-holder to be in the same place
[13:04] <Lazuroth78> lol
[13:04] <prodnix> love that explanation :D
[13:04] <Lazuroth78> good way to put that
[13:04] <Lazuroth78> love that one
[13:04] <Ryan_L_Williams> Hello Ubuntu.
[13:04] <Ryan_L_Williams> I need to know what's the best ISO Burner for burning Windows, Liunx, etc
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: there is no single best ISO burner, for any OS
[13:05] <blazemore> Ryan_L_Williams: They're all basically the same. What OS are you on?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: do you really think one exists that is outright best...really!?
[13:05] <basiclaser> hallo hallo
[13:05] <Ryan_L_Williams> ActionParsnip: Really, I thought there will be
[13:06] <blazemore> Ryan_L_Williams: What would make one better than another, in your mind?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: if there was, nobody would use anything else and they would cease to be
[13:06] <Ryan_L_Williams> blazemore: I want to burn Windows XP
[13:06] <Ryan_L_Williams> blazemore: I want to burn Windows 7
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: think about it....
[13:06] <JuJuBean> CDs are yesteryear. It's like asking which toaster is best. They all make toast.
[13:06] <blazemore> Ryan_L_Williams: It either burns the disk or it doesn't
[13:06] <Ryan_L_Williams> ActionParsnip: Think about what
[13:06] <Pici> !burners
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: the statement I gave you
[13:06] <blazemore> JuJuBean: Not true at all. Some toasters toast unevenly
[13:06] <JuJuBean> on windows try cdburnerxp
[13:06] <Lazuroth78> windows seven is not worth the cd it being burnt to
[13:07] <blazemore> Lazuroth78: so edgy
[13:07] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: everyone would use the best one, as the others are lesser. The development would stop on the other burners
[13:07] <Ryan_L_Williams> ActionParsnip: what statement, I'll speak binary now joking mat, so what shall I do to burn a ISO onto a blank Disk
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: Its like asking "what is the best web browser?", you will get opinions. None are outright best
[13:07] <blazemore> Ryan_L_Williams: If you are on Ubuntu, the built-in one is perfect
[13:07] <Pici> ActionParsnip: you've made your point.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: brassero is in a default ubuntu install
[13:07] <JuJuBean> I cant remember which year I last burned an iso in.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Pici: hence me stopping (see above)
[13:07] <Lazuroth78> I am fond of chrome
[13:08] <blazemore> Ryan_L_Williams: If you are on Windows 7, ditto. If you are on an earlier version of Windows, look at CDBurnerXP
[13:08] <k1l_> Ryan_L_Williams: just use any burner you want. its not rocket sience. no need to make such a drama out of it
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Ryan_L_Williams: xfburn and k3b are also available in the repos
[13:08] <Ryan_L_Williams> ActionParsnip: I use Google Chrome, because it's fast, easier too
[13:08] <k1l_> Ryan_L_Williams: and if you are using windows ask the windows guys for support.
[13:09] <Lazuroth78> honestly windows xp has been and always will be my fav windows
[13:09] <blazemore> I think we should all agree to stop now
[13:09] <k1l_> !ot | Lazuroth78 Ryan_L_Williams  etc
[13:09] <Ryan_L_Williams> Okay thanks guys for all your support, because I was going to ask
[13:10] <Ryan_L_Williams> Is ubunuforums.com down???
[13:10] <blazemore> Ryan_L_Williams: Do you own eyeballs?
[13:10] <Lazuroth78> Yall have fun I will be back if I have more questions
[13:10] <JuJuBean> i hate the overzelous nature of freenode channels.
[13:10] <k1l_> Ryan_L_Williams: just try it yourself. for questions regarding forums ask in #ubuntuforums
[13:10] <JuJuBean> especially this being the off topic channel.
[13:10] <JuJuBean> er, nm
[13:10] <Pici> JuJuBean: This is #ubuntu, NOT the offtopic channel
[13:10] <JuJuBean> hah. thats my fault
[13:11] <Ryan_L_Williams> Somebody type in #windows
[13:11] <mbeierl> I've installed remmina and remmina-plugin-nx, but nx is not listed as a protocol option.  I see an old bug report for Oneiric, but nothing about 13.04.  Anyone know how to get the nx plugin to show up as a protocol for remmina?
[13:11] <JuJuBean> ok, return with zeal to overzealous mode! :D
[13:13] <mbeierl> in fact I installed telepathy and xdmcp as well, and they're not showing up either
[13:17] <codephobic> hi
[13:18] <QuietStorm81> Good morning all. I've a bit of an odd issue with wi-fi connectivity on my laptop running 13.04. I can login into wi-fi that has passwords that have letters in them but when the passwords are all numeric as the one at my home is, I can't login. The laptop will continually ask for the right password even though I'm entering it right off the side of my modem.
[13:18] <QuietStorm81> Any ideas what might be causing this?
[13:19] <codephobic> usr13, hi was busy yesterday, but just wanted to let you know that it's sorted now. The video playback is tear-free, once I used the video-tear-free on setting. It reduced the framerate on the vgl_gears test by quite a bit though (but I don't think that's too important to me).
[13:20] <Magicarp> Does the kernel effect the performance of the blob GPU driver?
[13:20] <codephobic> I need some help with setting up a shared documents directory from ubuntu to a bunch of VMs... I've done this before, quite some time ago, but can't seem to get it working now.
[13:20] <blazemore> codephobic: Are the VMs running on the same machine you want to share the directory from?
[13:20] <codephobic> I forgot how to enable a folder/directory to be shared in ubuntu and set permissions.
[13:21] <codephobic> blazemore, both on this machine and on another machine on the same LAN.
[13:21] <mbeierl> codephobic: CIFS or NFS?
[13:21] <codephobic> I had it setup so fstab mounted //<ip address> /directory cifs ...
[13:21] <mbeierl> codephobic: sorry - sharing using MS Windows networking?
[13:22] <codephobic> mbeierl, both with an ubuntu server vm in Windows 7 and with a bunch of different vms hosted on this ubuntu.
[13:22] <blazemore> codephobic: I'd just go about setting up a normal Samba share, the fact they're VMs is a red herring
[13:22] <usr13> codephobic: Very good.
[13:23] <codephobic> blazemore, hmm, I normally share folders by just setting the share permission within the gui, but that doesn't seem to have worked as far as the VMs are concerned.
[13:24] <mbeierl> codephobic: so yes, to share from Ubuntu there is the right-click dropdown menu that will guide you through setting up the share as the "server side".  For mounting the share, you can use /etc/fstab
[13:24] <codephobic> I can't seem to access the folder nor provide a proper address: <ip address>/folder/path/
[13:24] <usr13> codephobic: You can use samba and nfs on the same share. I use nfs for Linux clients and samba for MS Windows ones.  I do both.  It's pretty straight forward.
[13:24] <codephobic> mbeierl, that's pretty much what I've been trying but I'm definitely mucking something up.
[13:25] <mbeierl> codephobic: For my fstab, I have //server/share /media/public    cifs    user=guest,dom=WORKGROUP,sec=none       0       0
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: no password?
[13:25] <mbeierl> codephobic: if your share requires a specific username password combo, instead of guest, then you need to look into credentials files
[13:26] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: for my private home network, no I have an open dropbox share
[13:26] <usr13> codephobic: Do you have your PC set to static IP?  (It makes things easier.)  Many routers have option for static lease, which is to say that it gives the same IP to a PC each time it boots up.
[13:26] <codephobic> /192.168.1.7/office/ /media/work ntfs credentials=/root/.creds,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[13:26] <mbeierl> I also run with scissor at times.
[13:26] <codephobic> ^^ that's how my Nas shares are at present
[13:27] <mbeierl> codephobic: wait- you have ntfs there as the filesystem type
[13:27] <codephobic> but I use ntfs for the shares on this local machine (sharing directories from a bunch of NTFS formatted/windows disks)
[13:27] <codephobic> oops
[13:27] <mbeierl> codephobic: should that not be cifs?  ntfs is a local filesystem only, not network
[13:27] <codephobic> /192.168.1.7/office/ /media/work cifs credentials=/root/.creds,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[13:27] <usr13> codephobic: Spelling error.
[13:27] <codephobic> ^^ sorry typo/
[13:27] <codephobic> I typed ntfs when I meant cifs
[13:27] <mbeierl> ok, I thought that it might have been just that simple
[13:27] <codephobic> hehe
[13:27] <codephobic> I wish
[13:28] <codephobic> (but, no doubt, I've mucked something simple up, somewhere)
[13:28] <mbeierl> sorry - work calls for a bit...  Perhaps paste the error that occurs when trying to mount?
[13:28] <codephobic> k,
[13:28] <raub> I take line 2 in http://pastie.org/private/u26tyst3b0p5cer0aoow is the driver version being used to control the card
[13:28] <raub> But, which driver is this?
[13:28] <Pici> 70
[13:28] <raub> (filename/.whatever)
[13:29] <codephobic> "Retrying with upper case share name
[13:29] <codephobic> mount error(6): No such device or address
[13:29] <codephobic> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[13:29] <codephobic> "
[13:29] <FloodBot1> codephobic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <codephobic> oops - just copy/pasted the error message.
[13:30] <usr13> codephobic: And I don't think you really need file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[13:30] <usr13> codephobic: ShareName is CaseSensitive.
[13:30] <codephobic> usr13, I'll try removing that.
[13:30] <usr13> codephobic: And no frontslash at the beginning of the line.
[13:31] <usr13> codephobic: I would suggest something like: 192.168.1.7/office/ /media/work nfs rw,user,nolock,nocto,actimeo=3600
[13:32] <codephobic> usr13, that's strange, I use // in front of the ips for shares from windows and from my nas. I figured that was the general convention.
[13:32] <codephobic> ok, I'll just try that too.
[13:32] <usr13> codephobic: But /media/work ?  Why isn't it /home/codephodic/work  ?
[13:33] <Pici> Does your NAS serve it as NFS or CIFS?
[13:33] <usr13> codephobic: I just don't think /media/ is the best place for that.  What kind of files are they?
[13:33] <mbeierl> codephobic: the no such device or address is calling out to me.  I would question if the IP address is still where you think it is.  Go on that box (and if it's Windows) do an ipconfig /all from a dos box?
[13:34] <codephobic> web, illustrator, psd, system settings ... that's just the root folder
[13:35] <vishnu_> hello
[13:35] <vishnu_> any one there
[13:35] <mbeierl_> !ask | vishnu_
[13:35] <codephobic> mbeierl, the ip address is of this machine. I'm pretty certain it's the correct address
[13:35] <usr13> codephobic: Actually, I made a mistake too. Should be:  192.168.1.7:office/ /media/work nfs rw,user,nolock,nocto,actimeo=3600
[13:36] <codephobic> usr13, ah ok I'll give that a try
[13:36] <vishnu_> thanx
[13:36] <usr13> codephobic: Notice the :  instead of /  192.168.1.7:office  and not slash at the end  so:
[13:36] <mbeierl> codephobic: what OS is on 192.168.1.7?
[13:36] <usr13> 192.168.1.7:office /media/work nfs rw,user,nolock,nocto,actimeo=3600
[13:37] <usr13> 192.168.1.7:/what/ever/office /media/work nfs rw,user,nolock,nocto,actimeo=3600
[13:37] <mbeierl> The reason I ask is usr13's fstab entry is for NFS, and if that is Windows, it won't be serving up NFS...
[13:37] <codephobic> mbeierl, it's ubuntu (this host machine)
[13:37] <mbeierl> codephobic: ok.
[13:37] <codephobic> the vm I'm trying to setup is also ubuntu (12.04 LTS server)
[13:38] <usr13> codephobic: This is not for a nfs share?
[13:38] <usr13> codephobic: So it *is* nfs. Right?
[13:40] <codephobic> usr13, I need to set the share on both windows and ubuntu/debian vms, but this specific examples is ubuntu to ubuntu
[13:41] <usr13> codephobic: Ok, then use the example I showed you.  But correct the path(s) as needed.
[13:41] <codephobic> I tried the nfs example you suggested, but got an "bad superblock" error
[13:41] <mbeierl_> codephobic, you eventually will need to get the Windows share working too, and that will be another method.
[13:41] <usr13> codephobic: And set your exports file as needed
[13:41] <codephobic> mbeierl, I think windows uses cifs to communicate with linux, no?
[13:42] <vishnu_> hi guy can we delay the boot up time so that i can show off my new splash screen
[13:42] <codephobic> usr13, exports file?
[13:42] <Wulf> vishnu_: is that a grub splash screen?
[13:42] <mbeierl> codephobic: yes, it will need to use cifs.  The setup you are working on with usr13 is NFS, which is a different filesystem.  You would need to make sure you have nfs client and server installed for that
[13:42] <vishnu_> ya
[13:42] <Wulf> vishnu_: yes, it's possible.
[13:42] <usr13> codephobic: /etc/exports  should have line like:   /office 192.168.1.0/24(rw)    #If that is the actual path.
[13:43] <vishnu_> thanks wulf
[13:43] <codephobic> ah
[13:43] <Wulf> vishnu_: you're welcome
[13:43] <vishnu_> but how
[13:43] <Mosselman> hey guys, I have a question about recording video from my webcam through command-line.
[13:43] <Wulf> vishnu_: don't know. Did you rtfm?
[13:43] <vishnu_> what is rtfm
[13:43] <Wulf> vishnu_: read the fascinating manual
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Wulf, don't , it's not funny either
[13:44] <Mosselman> I have found a command to use with ffmpeg online: `ffmpeg -f oss -i /dev/dsp…` I have no '/dev/dsp'. I have read that it has been replaced with libav or something, but how can I use that in the ffmpeg command?
[13:44] <mbeierl> Wulf, if you don't have an example, don't tell people to go away.
[13:44] <vaurdan> Hey guys
[13:44] <usr13> Mosselman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5907624/
[13:44] <Wulf> mbeierl: I told him to read. I know that it's easy to find in the docs.
[13:45] <vaurdan> anyone knows why when I'm installing virtualbox, it asks me to remove gnome-terminal? :o
[13:45] <Mosselman> usr13: thanks, but I don't have /dev/dsp
[13:45] <usr13> codephobic: You have to use the *complete* path.
[13:45] <vishnu_> its really happens!
[13:45] <Wulf> Mosselman: you're probably using alsa or pulseaudio
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> vaurdan: where is virtualbox installing from?
[13:46] <k1l_> !rtfm | Wulf
[13:46] <vaurdan> downloaded .deb from their site
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> vaurdan: the virtualbox repo, or the ubuntu repos?
[13:46] <Mosselman> Wulf: probably, what should I use instead then? I have no idea how this works.
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> vaurdan: thats why then
[13:46] <vaurdan> now I just tried from ubuntu repos, and it works
[13:46] <BluesKaj> moss just replace ffmpeg with libav , the command strings are supposed to work the same for both
[13:46] <vaurdan> wirdo :o
[13:46] <Wulf> Mosselman: what are you trying to do?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> vaurdan: I suggest you let the guys know
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Mosselman,^
[13:46] <vaurdan> I'll fill a bug report :)
[13:46] <vaurdan> in virtualbox site
[13:46] <Mosselman> Wulf: record video from webcam through command-line
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> vaurdan: why not use the one from the ubuntu repos which is known to be good?
[13:46] <vaurdan> 'cause I didn't checked first the repos
[13:46] <vaurdan> just tried right now
[13:46] <vaurdan> ehehhe
[13:46] <Wulf> Mosselman: your camera will probably not use a sound device
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> vaurdan: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose    done
[13:47] <Wulf> Mosselman: is it a usb camera?
[13:47] <Mosselman> Wulf: 'dap' is just for audio?
[13:47] <Mosselman> Wulf: yep
[13:47] <vaurdan> btw, another question: there is any way to configure webcam (exposure, etc etc)?
[13:47] <Mosselman> I think it has audio, but whatever, video is fine for now
[13:47] <blazemore> vaurdan: That's configured on a per-app basis I think
[13:47] <Wulf> Mosselman: well, maybe it is alsa. Check if alsa shows you the camera device
[13:47] <codephobic> usr13, hmm, the folder "office" is actually on another disk, and I have setup a path with fstab to /office, so when I configured the fstab on the vm, I used <ip address>/office (and am now trying <ip address>:office)
[13:47] <Wulf> Mosselman: "aplay -L" or so
[13:47] <vaurdan> I can't find that option on skype though
[13:48] <Wulf> Mosselman: or arecord -l
[13:48] <Bauer> I have trouble migrating from my HDd to SSD drive :( Latest attempt I tried following http://askubuntu.com/questions/40372/how-to-move-ubuntu-to-an-ssd  andcp -ax /media/hd /media/ssd copies like /media/ssd/hd instead of copying to ssd  folder
[13:48] <blazemore> vaurdan: I don't have Skype installed right now, but I'm sure there are video settings
[13:48] <Mosselman> Wulf yep it shows it
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Mosselman, I'll repeat in case you missed it ,  just replace ffmpeg with libav , the command strings are supposed to work the same for both
[13:48] <Mosselman> what is the alsa equivalent of /dev/dsp? do you happen to know?
[13:48] <vaurdan> Yup, there are, but it only allows me to select the camera...
[13:49] <vaurdan> I'm going to try luvcview
[13:49] <Wulf> Mosselman: "man ffmpeg", search for alsa. Not sure if suits your needs, though
[13:49] <usr13> codephobic: What is the full path to /office/ ?
[13:49] <blazemore> vaurdan: No option to reveal advanced settings?
[13:49] <vaurdan> no :o
[13:49] <usr13> codephobic: .... on the server end.
[13:49] <Mosselman> Wulf thanks
[13:49] <Mosselman> BluesKaj: thanks, Ill give that a try
[13:49] <Mosselman> I missed it
[13:49] <vaurdan> skype since was bought by microsoft is so shitty in its linux version....
[13:49] <codephobic> the full path on the server is: /office/
[13:50] <blazemore> vaurdan: Skype for Linux has always been sub-par compared to the Windows version
[13:50] <Bauer> vaurdan: configuring video camera is done via a driver/device, not via skype settings in linux
[13:50] <blazemore> Bauer: Is that the case? I stand corrected then, sorry vaurdan
[13:51] <Bauer> blazemore: I remember tinkering with webcam long ago, you tweak the device, not the settings in skype. dont rememebr the details
[13:51] <vaurdan> blazemore, yes, I know, but since microsoft bought it, is so unstable on ubuntu
[13:51] <usr13> codephobic: So use the exports line I showed you and it should work for you.
[13:51] <joshu> when doing a new ubuntu desktop 13.04 install from the livecd is there a way to not install any extra/ additional applications apart from the essential base system?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> joshu: that is default, just dont select to install updates or codecs
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> joshu: if yoou want bare basics you can use the minimal install
[13:52] <Mosselman> Thanks guys (Wulf BluesKaj) it worked. Now just the adio
[13:52] <Mosselman> audio
[13:53] <Bauer> I have trouble migrating from my HDd to SSD drive :( Latest attempt I tried following http://askubuntu.com/questions/40372/how-to-move-ubuntu-to-an-ssd  andcp -ax /media/hd /media/ssd copies like /media/ssd/hd instead of copying to ssd  folder..  Or can anyone instruct me how to migrate it properly?
[13:54] <joshu> ActionParsnip oh ok I thought you had to do something else to specify that
[13:54] <blazemore> Bauer: The fact one is an SSD and one is an HDD is irrelevant - you need instructions on how to move an Ubuntu installation from one disk to another
[13:54] <vaurdan> does anyone has an idea when are the foruns coming back?
[13:54] <blazemore> Bauer: So if you try searching for that, you might find more useful resources than if you search about SSDs
[13:54] <usr13> codephobic: And it should have permissions 755 for directory and 644 for files and owned by group users
[13:54] <blazemore> vaurdan: We only know what it says on the announcement page
[13:55] <Bauer> good idea blazemore , will give it a try.. thanks. unless someone answers faster :)
[13:55] <codephobic> usr13, just wrote the exports as you suggested. do I need to restart/reboot anything?
[13:55] <blazemore> joshu: Take a look at http://askubuntu.com/a/207241
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> joshu: there are ticky boxes to install extra stuff at install time, just read the screen
[13:57] <usr13> codephobic: Not sure, but just restarting nfs will do.  sudo service nfs restart
[13:57] <codephobic> k
[13:58] <Bauer> blazemore: the general instructions all point to using gparted to "clone" the partitions and then install grub on it.  problem is that afterwards, I cant login on X. when I login on text mode, I get error after logging in like : setreuid operation failed
[13:58] <usr13> codephobic: And you can set up that same directory for a samba share as well.
[14:00] <usr13> codephobic: sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
[14:00] <Mosselman> Video works well now, but when using audio it messes up (hardly any file size, video is frozen image and audio is only a fraction of the time and inaccurate)
[14:01] <Euro> does someone know if the ubuntu edge will be shipped from within europe?
[14:03] <PandinusImperato> Euro, yes
[14:03] <PandinusImperato> Free shipping US/UK, $30 for other destinations
[14:03] <Wulf> PandinusImperato: source of the information?
[14:03] <usr13> codephobic: And /office/ should probably be owned by group "users":  sudo chown codephobic:users /office/
[14:03] <PandinusImperato> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/ubuntu-edge-canonical-linux-smartphone-122667
[14:04] <PandinusImperato> sorry, wrong link
[14:04] <PandinusImperato> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[14:04] <zerotrack> hi, someone can tells me if user/password of ubuntuforums.org is the same of Launchpad and 'ask ubuntu' ?
[14:04] <blazemore> zerotrack: It's not
[14:05] <rantic> zerotrack: Unless you made it the same of course
[14:05] <blazemore> ^
[14:05] <Euro> thank you PandinusImperato... very good, so no import taxes should apply for me
[14:05] <qwebirc42327> Hello, can anyone give me advice on how to install Ubuntu from a bios screen? Just doing my first build, thanks
[14:05] <blazemore> qwebirc42327: Did you use a USB or a DVD?
[14:05] <lukicat> any1 has an idea how to get 'libgfortran.so.1' libraries on ubuntu 12.04??
[14:06] <zerotrack> rantic, ok, ok.. i mean if is the same 'login process'... you understand
[14:06] <zerotrack> blazemore, thanks
[14:06] <usr13> qwebirc42327: Just tell it to boot to the install media you have.
[14:06] <qwebirc42327> I'm trying to download it onto a USB but it's taking forever. But eventually USB, yeah.
[14:06] <blazemore> zerotrack: No, Ubuntu Single SignOn has not been compromised. Only vbulletin has been exploited
[14:06] <Wulf> lukicat: sounds old. Can you not use the current version?
[14:06] <rantic> zerotrack: The services do not tie into each other. In other words, your ubuntuforums account has been compromised but this didn't give them access to your details at launchpad or ask ubuntu. They are unrelated in that respect.
[14:06] <blazemore> qwebirc42327: You just boot from your installation medium and follow the instructions in the installer
[14:07] <qwebirc42327> Ok! Thanks
[14:07] <usr13> qwebirc42327: You may have boot options shown during boot process, maybe F12?  Watch for it during the bootup process, (right after post).
[14:07] <donta> forums hacked?
[14:07] <zerotrack> rantic, blazemore great, thank you guys
[14:07] <usr13> donta: Yes
[14:08] <donta> :/
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> donta: yes, search the web, its all over
[14:08] <donta> ActionParsnip: just got the email
[14:08] <usr13> donta: We all need to change passwords periodically anyhow.
[14:08] <donta> do we know the method yet?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> usr13: sadly, users rarely follow best practice
[14:09] <usr13> i know
[14:09] <codephobic> usr13, I keep getting  errors: http://pastebin.com/HVCg3evZ
[14:09] <donta> usr13: yup, just more email spam now :(
[14:10] <codephobic> what's the best way to setup shared folders between linux machines across a network? I think I should start over, as I'm really quite lost now.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: I'd use SFTP, it installs when you install openssh-server
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: if you port forward port 22 on your router you can access your data from anywhere
[14:11] <BakaKuna> hi all, I have this very interesting, and fortunately reproducable bug. But I'm having a hard time trying to get together a bug report. When I force the bug, the system goes back to gdm log in. After that I can login to a graphical environment. A call trace for the event is then left on another (non graphical) tty. How do I get the call trace from this tty, so that i can attach it to my report?
[14:12] <joshu> on the laptop I'm testing (HP 655 on the ubuntu hardware certified list) why can't I change display brightness with the open-source default amd driver gallion, but with the propiertary fglrx I can? Everything seems to work otherwise, external monitors, mirroring etc, just not display brightness.
[14:12] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, that sounds too powerful for me, I might end up compromising my system unintentionally. I'm just surprised I could get cifs to work by simply following googled instructions and adapt it to windows shares but can't get my linuxes sharing...
[14:12] <usr13> codephobic: Looks like you are trying to mount it from the server.  The fstab entry goes in the client.  The client, (another PC), will mount the [remote] nfs share.  After each rewrite of the /etc/exports file, I *think* you need to restart nfs deamon:  sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
[14:12] <codephobic> usr13, I just tried restarting the nfs-kernel
[14:12] <codephobic> but got the same error.
[14:13] <codephobic> I'm sure I've messed it up and I need to clean it out and start again...
[14:13] <usr13> codephobic: Show me the error.
[14:13] <jacks> Hello! My screen flickers as soon as I start my system from suspension mode. Any solutions?
[14:13] <Euro> BakaKuna: you could try cat /dev/tt[numer] > /tmp/ttylog on another terminal
[14:13] <codephobic> usr13, this is error: http://pastebin.com/HVCg3evZ
[14:14] <Euro> BEFORE it start printing the trace
[14:14] <blazemore> jacks: Could you provide some more details about your hardware and Ubuntu version please?
[14:14] <usr13> codephobic: Yes, I see the error from mount. I just responded to that.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: how do you compromise your own system using sftp?
[14:14] <ihre> I've just installed a clean version of Ubuntu x64 12.04, and upgraded to 12.10 with sudo do-dist-upgrade -d, yet now I'm booting in a black screen. I cant open any vconsoles to check logs. How should I continue?
[14:14] <codephobic> usr13, that's the same error I got after restarting nfs-kernel
[14:14] <jacks> blazemore: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. What details in hardware? 500gb hd , radeon graphics card and 4gb ram.
[14:15] <usr13> codephobic: But you said you got an error from restarting nfs-kernel-server
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ihre: -d will give you Saucy (13.10), not 12.10
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ihre: did it say saucy whilst it upgraded?
[14:15] <usr13> codephobic: Again;  The /etc/fstab enrty goes in on the client PC, (not the server).
[14:15] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I don't know ... but, I'm wary of setting up ftp on my system without understanding how to properly secure it.
[14:16] <ihre> Havent seen any references to saucy during the upgrade process, ActionParsnip
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: its not ftp, its sftp
[14:16] <blazemore> ihre: Why did you do that, rather than just installing 12.10 straight away?
[14:16] <napsc> codephobic: sftp is ftp over ssh
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> ihre: if you boot to root recovery mode and login there, then run:  cat /etc/issue     what is output?
[14:16] <codephobic> usr13, the client is the VM right? I wrote the /etc/fstab on the vm
[14:16] <ihre> because of the alternate cd, I've put LVM ontop of raid 1, blazemore
[14:17] <BakaKuna> Euro: thnx, i'll try that
[14:17] <ihre> brb, ill check it ActionParsnip
[14:17] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, ah, well shows how much I know of it :(
[14:17] <dranix> hi
[14:17] <dranix> is anyone around??.. need a little help
[14:17] <blazemore> !ask | dranix
[14:18] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I'll try that method next, just going to see if I've made some trivial mistake with the nfs that usr13 is helping me implement first.
[14:18] <dranix> i need help with ldap integration with packetfence
[14:18] <blazemore> dranix: #ubuntu-server will *almost certainly* be a better fit for that sort of question
[14:18] <dranix> thanks
[14:20] <ihre> ActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue > Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[14:21] <jacks> blazemore: I googled that but wasn't able to find solution. Ubuntu forums are also down
[14:21] <usr13> codephobic: Wait, I thought these were two separate PCs.  Are they on the same PC?
[14:21] <ElToro1966> Ideas, anybody? http://askubuntu.com/questions/323900/13-04-install-stops-after-splash-screen-have-tried-everything-to-get-it-to-wor
[14:21] <sin__tax> anyone know why ddrescue seems to have not put any data on the target drive even though the files seem to be there now? http://pastebin.com/est3DLwu
[14:22] <usr13> codephobic: You need to tell me where these two systems really are.
[14:22] <codephobic> usr13, same pc one is a virtual machine (virtualbox) ubuntu server and the host is ubuntu 13.04
[14:22] <codephobic> usr13, sorry thought I'd explained the setup earlier
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> ihre: ok, thats good, wht GPU do you use?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> ihre: did you install any proprietary video drivers?
[14:23] <usr13> codephobic: Oh, I didn't know.  There is a whole different way of sharing files from a virtualbox client to it's host.
[14:23] <codephobic> I have a virtualbox VM (ubuntu 12.04 LTS server) that is running on this host
[14:23] <usr13> codephobic: I suppose nfs would work, but not the recommended method.
[14:24] <ihre> Im using the onboard gfx from a Gigabyte B75M-D3H incl. an i3-3220
[14:24] <ihre> ActionParsnip: I havent installed any proprietary drivers though
[14:24] <codephobic> usr13, ah... what would be the recommended way? I'll start again and undo the exports?
[14:25] <usr13> codephobic: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html
[14:25] <codephobic> thanks, will have a read of that... hopefully I can sort it out by following the instructions.
[14:25] <usr13> codephobic: nfs is for sharing across the network, (to the rest of your PCs on the LAN).  Follwo the above URL and read
[14:26] <codephobic> thanks for all the help, sorry if it was a bit confusing and muddled.
[14:26] <usr13> codephobic: "Shared folders"...
[14:26] <jacks> sudo pm-hibernate also flickers the screen
[14:27] <usr13> codephobic: ... not that "Guest Additions" must be installed for this.
[14:27] <codephobic> usr13, but my VM is on the LAN across a bridge and is accessible by all my other VMs and the other PCs on the LAN ... but yeah, I'll go read ... I think I need to think this through again.
[14:27] <codephobic> yep, got Guest Additions installed.
[14:28] <usr13> codephobic: It depends.  You can share with any or all PCs on the LAN, (linux ones), as I showed you with nfs as well, but if you want to share from guest to host, see the instructions in the URL I gave you.
[14:30] <usr13> codephobic: The nfs settings will work if you get the /etc/exports and /etc/fstab entries correct.
[14:30] <usr13> codephobic: ... but you have to use *full* path(s).
[14:31] <raub> How can I replace a given kernel module being used with a newer version? All that without rebooting?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> ihre: are you intending to upgrade to Raring?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> ihre: any particular reason to not stay on Precise, its support far outstrips Quantal and Raring....
[14:33] <ihre> ActionParsnip: yes sir, im planning to upgrade to 13.04. Im installing the PC for a dev at work, they all use 13.04 apparently
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ihre:raring is EOL in Jan 2014
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> raub  there's ksplice, i'm not sure you have to reboot after installing it itself
[14:34] <MidnightNinja> hey guys, does anyone know how to fix the brightness issue with an Nvidia 750m gpu?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:35] <usr13> codephobic: If you go further with nfs, read man nfs
[14:35] <ihre> ActionParsnip: I will let my devs know !
[14:35] <dennisn> how can I configure NetworkManager (or wpa_supplicant?) to set the variable ap_scan=1
[14:35] <MidnightNinja> ActionParsnip: Is that one command in terminal?
[14:36] <MidnightNinja> I'm still new to linux
[14:36] <dennisn> currently my syslog says "NetworkManager...<info> Config: set interface ap_scan to 2" ... how is this being set/configured?
[14:36] <MidnightNinja> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[14:37] <kirkland> zip: grep crypt /proc/swaps
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: perfect
[14:37] <MidnightNinja> Thank you :)
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: does the system also have an Intel GPU? as in a laptop with a switchable GPU
[14:38] <MidnightNinja> Its an nvidia geforce gt750m sli
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel GPU too?
[14:38] <jacks> can anyone link me to screen flicker issue? I am having difficulty with that.
[14:39] <MidnightNinja> ActionParsnip: I only see two NVIDIA GPUs
[14:40] <MidnightNinja> ActionParsnip: If it helps, I'm also on the latest nvidia gpu drivers
[14:40] <CatKiller> Hi there! I've made the stupid mistake of installing Ubuntu desktop instead of server
[14:40] <CatKiller> and now I'm stuck with this god awful automatic network configuration
[14:41] <CatKiller> is there a way to completely disable this weird network configuration daemon whatever its name is
[14:41] <CatKiller> it completely disregards settings set in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:41] <CatKiller> and overwrites my config every 3-4 minutes
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> CatKiller  now the installation is still clean, why not simply replace it with a server installation? easier, faster, cleaner!
[14:42] <CatKiller> MonkeyDust: This is a test server I'm only going to need for 5 minutesd
[14:42] <CatKiller> just want to verify something
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[14:42] <CatKiller> but I need to be able to hold a config for these 5 minutes :p
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: a URL will be generated
[14:42] <CatKiller> I find it amazing that on the desktop edition it's not possible to configure the network through the command line
[14:42] <CatKiller> it probably is
[14:43] <CatKiller> but googling for it only shows results explaining how to change /etc/network/interfaces
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> CatKiller  an old post, 10.04, hope it's useful http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/08/quickly-disable-network-manager-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[14:43] <CatKiller> thanks, I'll try that
[14:44] <CatKiller> I so much hate this tool
[14:44] <CatKiller> in fact even the graphical interface version of it too is useless
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> CatKiller  luckily, you didnt install windows by accident
[14:45] <CatKiller> MonkeyDust: I'll say it here, I actually prefer the Windows network management, so bad it is, comparded to Ubuntu's NetworkManager and graphical tools
[14:45] <CatKiller> it's that bad for me
[14:46] <MidnightNinja> ActionParsnip:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5907803/
[14:46] <Steve^> Cats, Ninjas, Monkeys, Parsnips.. you guys all have funny names
[14:46] <CatKiller> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the tip anyways, I tried and waiting to make sure it works
[14:47] <CatKiller> What's a "Steve"?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> Steve Jobs
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> CatKiller  the network applet has the option to uncheck 'enable networking', maybe that's something of interest to you
[14:50] <CatKiller> MonkeyDust: I had tried before and it didn't really change much
[14:50] <CatKiller> MonkeyDust: The solution you gave me is perfect
[14:50] <CatKiller> MonkeyDust: It reads configuration from /etc/network/interface first and does not override it
[14:50] <CatKiller> MonkeyDust: The file location is slightly different but it's perfect
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: then how did you install the driver?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: I recommend you use the additional drivers app in the system settings
[14:51] <MidnightNinja> the nvidiabl driver?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> CatKiller  hope it helps you liking ubuntu a bit more
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: it installs the driver for you
[14:51] <MidnightNinja> ActionParsnop: I went to that page, and nothing showed up
[14:51] <CatKiller> MonkeyDust: I already love Ubuntu, just not the network manager ;p
[14:51] <MidnightNinja> ActionParsnip: I went to that page, and nothing showed up
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: or:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:52] <MidnightNinja> ActionParsnip: I downloaded them from the NVIDIA site, and manually ran it from a terminal
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> MidnightNinja: why, when there are packages for it, it will also auto update when the packages update, just like your applications
[14:55] <moza> hello, i have three parts on my extended partition : one is linux, one is swap (in the middle) and the rest is free. I want to merge the free into the linux part, is this possible?
[14:55] <MidnightNinja> ActionParnsip: That, I am unsure of.  I hadn't seen that command before--I'm running it now
[14:55] <MidnightNinja> Moza: you can with gparted
[14:55] <MidnightNinja> moza: just know its not worth it
[14:56] <moza> Why is it not worth it MidnightNinja ?
[14:56] <t0phux> Well, my 12.04 Server will not boot anymore.  Originally, I had problems because my /boot was full during a kernel update.  This made mismatched linux-image-server and linux-image-generic.  I rebooted into recovery and got the kernel stuff cleared up, and reinstalled grub for good measure.  Now when I try and boot I just stuck on the disk drive for /tmp is not ready, and can't get past this point.  When I try and skip it tells me it ca
[14:56] <t0phux> any advice?
[14:56] <MidnightNinja> moza: because theres a high chance of data corruption
[14:57] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Was just looking at your conversation with CatKiller, and wondering why just uninstalling network-manager is not a simplier option?
[14:57] <MidnightNinja> moza: if you really wanted to do it, I'd format the swap so it is also free, and extend the rest of the partition
[14:57] <CatKiller> usr13: It's somehow near impossible, and time consuming
[14:57] <blazemore> usr13: Doesn't uninstalling network-manager break ubuntu-desktop?
[14:57] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[14:57] <moza> ok MidnightNinja, i can do that. Should i do it from the live cd and not while running then?
[14:57] <CatKiller> usr13, It's the Internet Explorer of Ubuntu
[14:58] <MidnightNinja> moza: run gparted from a live usb
[14:58] <usr13> ActionParsnip: CatKiller blazemore I don't know how it could break ubuntu-desktop?? sudo apt-get urge network-manager*  ? I dono, just asking.
[14:58] <jhpy1024> Anyone know how much the Ubuntu Edge will cost if it gets funded and it's released?
[14:58] <ThePendulum> I have indirectly reinstalled the Ubuntu desktop (including, apparently, Compiz). This made the 'sticky windows' option disappear from the Compiz Config Settings Manager. I noticed it wasn't present in CCSM in Ubuntu 13.04 either. Does anyone know how to enable sticky windows without it?
[14:58] <CatKiller> usr13: I tried before and I remember there were some issues
[14:59] <CatKiller> usr13: MonkeyDust's solution is perfect
[14:59] <t0phux> Well, my 12.04 Server will not boot anymore.  Originally, I had problems because my /boot was full during a kernel update.  This made mismatched linux-image-server and linux-image-generic.  I rebooted into recovery and got the kernel stuff cleared up, and reinstalled grub for good measure.  Now when I try and boot I just stuck on the disk drive for /tmp is not ready, and can't get past this point.  When I try and skip it tells me it ca
[15:01] <moza> MidnightNinja, ok, but i'll have to create myself a liveusb first, and see if i have a big enough drive somewhere, thanks a lot for the advice :)
[15:01] <MidnightNinja> no problem
[15:01] <rawrmonster> If anyone is good at iptables can you please take a look at this pastebin http://pastebin.com/nZt7eZXM . I have just recently started learning about iptables but wanted to set up a linux router + firewall, but i dont want to have huge holes open.
[15:02] <usr13> CatKiller: I followed the URL and yea, looks simple enough, but I'm pretty sure that ubuntu-server does not have network-manager and that /etc/network/interfaces config file works independently of network-manager, needs no part of it and so uninstalling network-manager would have no effect, as far as I know. I've un-installed network-manager before and hat no problem.  Just wondering if things have changed.  I don't know.  Maybe I'll experiment with it and see
[15:02] <CatKiller> usr13: The server version doesn't have it indeed
[15:02] <CatKiller> usr13: I'll try next time alright
[15:03] <usr13> CatKiller: Yea, and I'm not really sury why I'd have software installed that is disabled and not used.
[15:03] <L3top> rawrmonster: just so you know your echo at the end is ech0
[15:03] <usr13> *not sure*  instead of sury
[15:03] <CatKiller> usr13: This is a test machine it doesn't matter. Also it is still used, it simply does not ignore an important file
[15:04] <usr13> "does not ignore an important file"?
[15:04] <rawrmonster> L3top: :D ty i must have miss typed it when i put it in paste bin was copying from my notepad lol
[15:04] <rawrmonster> L3top: does it look right tho?
[15:07] <L3top> rawrmonster: What is this supposed to be doing? iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i ! eth1 -j ACCEPT
[15:08] <rawrmonster> L3top: if its a new connection thats not from the interface eth1 to accept
[15:08] <blazemore> sync
[15:09] <L3top> Just making sure. I assume this is in case you have more than 2 nics. It doesn't look wrong to me... but it is not my area.
[15:09] <rawrmonster> L3top: because in my example eth1 is the internet while eth0 is the lan
[15:09] <L3top> rawrmonster: ^
[15:09] <rawrmonster> L3top: yes there is two nic's because you have to be able to have one connected to the modem while one is connected to a switch
[15:10] <L3top> Just making sure. I assume this is in case you have more than 2 nics.
[15:10] <L3top> eg 3+
[15:10] <rawrmonster> L3top: nope just 2 its for a small office
[15:10] <L3top> otherwise you should just specify eth0
[15:10] <L3top> because if there are three nics it will try and forward it
[15:10] <L3top> whatever "it" is
[15:11] <rawrmonster> ok
[15:11] <rawrmonster> :D i found a iptables irc ty for your help tho
[15:14] <checoimg> Hi guys I'm having trouble logging in to Ubuntu
[15:14] <rawrmonster> did you forget your password?
[15:14] <raub> checoimg: can you elaborate?
[15:14] <checoimg> rwarmonster : That's what you would think but no
[15:15] <holstein> checoimg: i would login via tty to confirm you know the password, and try as another user to see if its an issue with the session or your user config
[15:15] <checoimg> raub : Well I input the password and the screen flashes black and doesn't log , it just goes back to blank and ask for my password again
[15:16] <L3top> rawrmonster: I would let it detect and assign. For instance if a nic died, and another was installed, or for whatever reason udev is written oddly due to screwing around... it will not work.
[15:16] <L3top> rawrmonster: s/let it/write it to/
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> checoimg  can you change the DE and login? also: type ctrl-alt F1 and use df -h to make sure you don't have 100% full anywhere
[15:17] <rawrmonster> L3top: i can make a udev rule to force naming of the devices
[15:17] <L3top> rawrmonster: fair enough
[15:17] <checoimg> I only have Unity
[15:18] <BluesKaj> usr13, network manager setttings overwrite /etc/network/interfaces, NM has to be removed if you want to use the network inbterfaces settings
[15:18] <holstein> checoimg: try the guest session, if you dont want to make a new user.. i think you'll find the issue is in the user /home
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> checoimg  press ctrl-alt F1 and install a different DE, see if you can login into that one
[15:18] <raub> checoimg: you should also have console login (the ctrl-alt-f1 being mentioned)
[15:19] <t0phux> AB0448
[15:19] <checoimg> Let me try the Guest session. BRB
[15:19] <t0phux> Well, my 12.04 Server will not boot anymore.  Originally, I had problems because my /boot was full during a kernel update.  This made mismatched linux-image-server and linux-image-generic.  I rebooted into recovery and got the kernel stuff cleared up, and reinstalled grub for good measure.  Now when I try and boot I just stuck on the disk drive for /tmp is not ready, and can't get past this point.  When I try and skip it tells me it ca
[15:19] <checoimg> I will also check the ctrl alt f1
[15:19] <holstein> t0phux: you did what for "good measure"? and why? and how *exactly*
[15:21] <t0phux> holstein: I booted into recovery, mounted all my drives, chrooted, apt-get purge, reinstall, make-config, grub-update, grub-install
[15:22] <t0phux> I reinstalled because I was getting fr0 read error when booting up, I thought was a symptom, but turns out it was an irrelevent error relating to dell virtual drives through the DRAC
[15:22] <holstein> t0phux: i would search the exact error
[15:23] <t0phux> I've been through google without help, which is why I'm here
[15:23] <t0phux> The exact error is "The disk drive fo r/tmp is not ready yet or not present
[15:24] <holstein> t0phux: is it ready? or present?
[15:24] <raub> t0phux: do you need /tmp for now? If you have the memory I would set it as tmpfs in fstab and then see what else it is bitching about
[15:24] <t0phux> when skipping, I get "swapon: /dev/mapper/ldc278-swap_1: swapon failed: Device or resource busy
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[15:24] <t0phux> raub: when I go into the maintenance shell I can mount the drives, so I believe the drives are working
[15:25] <holstein> t0phux: confirm that.. i would test them with diagnostic tools to be sure
[15:25] <t0phux> holstein, it's a RAID 1
[15:25] <keythug__>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[15:25] <Lizards|Work> software or hardware
[15:25] <t0phux> hardware
[15:25] <t0phux> PERC6
[15:26] <holstein> t0phux: is that a confirmation of the hardware state?
[15:27] <holstein> t0phux:  you say "i believe the drives are working" .. you obviously have a problem, and if it were me, i would confirm that the hardware is not the issue
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[15:27] <t0phux> raub: I def have the memory 32GB, how do I make those changes to my fstab?
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[15:27] <holstein> !fstab
[15:27] <Pici> keythug__: Please stop.
[15:28] <OerHeks> keythug__, play in #test with your buduscript please
[15:28] <t0phux> holstein: I can obviously access the data, and chroot into the system, perform updates, fixed the kernel and reinstall grub, I'm PRETTY sure the drives are working just fine
[15:28] <raub> t0phux: something like
[15:28] <raub> tmpfs              /tmp            tmpfs   nodev,nosuid,size=512M,mode=1777  0       0
[15:28] <raub> in fstab should do the trick
[15:28] <t0phux> raub: kk give me a sec
[15:28] <raub> Adjust the size as needed
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> t0phux: sweet rig dude
[15:29] <holstein> t0phux: OK.. if you get further down the road, and dont get anywhere, and want to confirm that theory, i would use smart tools to be sure the drives are good.. it literally wont hurt
[15:29] <raub> I would also comment out the swap entry in fstab
[15:29] <raub> FYI, we do not use swap in our servers
[15:29] <t0phux> kk, booting now, this box is in colo, so it makes it a little harder
[15:30] <raub> I know how it is; I am bitchslapping a machine here (ssd in raid alignment fun) by accessing it though ipmi
[15:34] <Michael____> Hello
[15:34] <Michael____> Ubuntu forums got hacked and my password is out in the open. Is there a way to find out what my password on Ubuntu Forums was?
[15:34] <raub> t0phux: any luck?
[15:35] <Lizards|Work> Michael____, wait for the forums to come back up and try logging in using your known passwords
[15:35] <DJones> Michael____: Maybe ask in #ubuntuforums they may be able to advise you there
[15:35] <k1l_> Michael____: no
[15:35] <holstein> Michael____: the hashed passwords were compromised.. not plain text
[15:35] <Michael____> It was hashed? ok, that's better
[15:35] <Michael____> What was the hash?
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> Michael____, You get the email from the forums?
[15:35] <holstein> Michael____: that is fact.. "better" is a matter of opinion
[15:36] <k1l_> Michael____: for more details see #ubuntuforums
[15:36] <raub> Michael____: it depends on the hash and how many bitcoin rigs are doing nothing right now ;)
[15:36] <Michael____> Yes, I got the email
[15:36] <Lizards|Work> inc rainbow table
[15:36] <raub> Lizards|Work: that too
[15:39] <checoimg> Ok I'm back I know my password and the guest session works
[15:39] <blazemore> Michael____: Your message implies the information was *released* is that the case?
[15:39] <checoimg> But networking is not working
[15:39] <holstein> checoimg: then, i would remove configs from the user /home, and test
[15:39] <Michael____> This ->"The Ubuntu forums software was compromised by an external attacker. As a result, the attacker has gained access to read your username, email address and an encrypted copy of your password from the forum database."
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> blazemore, #ubuntuforums is your info central on this.
[15:40] <Lizards|Work> that's still not publicly released, which would be worse
[15:40] <blazemore> wilee-nilee: I know the answer is no, that's what I was implying in the question
[15:40] <checoimg> But I;m using this very user with another kernel
[15:40] <checoimg> In the linux channel they told me kernel version has nothing to do with logging
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> blazemore, Why and it is offtopic.
[15:41] <raub> checoimg: elaborate. Are you using network manager or what?
[15:41] <tree49> hi frens i there is problem in booting from hdd in my laptop i m booting from pendrive and i can read videos of hdd ->does that mean hdd is fine and what should i do to completely format my hdd from pendrive it had windows and ubuntu
[15:42] <k1l_> checoimg: kernel does interfer with networking. so try the same kernel?
[15:42] <raub> tree49: what kind of problem? Grub issues?
[15:42] <checoimg> The default network manager that comes with Ubuntu
[15:42] <DeltaHeavy_> Hey, is there any information on when the forums will be back up?
[15:42] <checoimg> The only thing that i snot default is the kernel
[15:43] <tree49> i dont know it just does not boot at all
[15:43] <raub> k1l_: ian----wonder what his dmesg is saying.
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> DeltaHeavy  #ubuntuforums
[15:43] <DeltaHeavy> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[15:43]  * raub curses autocomplete
[15:43] <blazemore> tree49: What happens when you try to boot normally? When did it stop working?
[15:43] <CatKiller> hi there! Is the "CONCURRENCY_LEVEL" variable still in use by "make-kpkg" when building a new kernel?
[15:43] <raub> Where does it stop booting? Which step/screen?
[15:44] <CatKiller> it seems that it ignores it completely
[15:44] <awktion> ~_~;
[15:44] <CatKiller> I'm running Ubuntu 13.04
[15:45] <t0phux> raub: success, sorry was on the phone
[15:45] <CatKiller> nevermind, was running the make as root in a different shell
[15:45] <holstein> checoimg: you know its not the password, and you know its not the system, if you can boot into the guest account.. what to i propose it is? the session config in the users home
[15:46] <tree49> actually i compiled kernel in ubuntu and i found problem after rebooting graphic driver problem then i tried to boot windows it said repairing disk and didnt halt repairing for hours so i used pendrive  to boot i tried to install ubuntu but it does no proceed after checking power plug free spce internet
[15:46] <t0phux> raub: I got it to boot to the login screen after some waiting (disabled swap, and added tmpfs in fstab)  So what doe sthat mean?
[15:46] <holstein> checoimg: you can literally move all .config files out of your home temporarily, and test the login
[15:46] <blazemore> tree49: Are you on the LiveCD now?
[15:46] <raub> holstein: or tell /etc/passwd his homedir is /tmp :)
[15:46] <tree49> usb instaler
[15:47] <blazemore> tree49: But you are in a live environment?
[15:47] <holstein> raub: i'll let you take that over, if you want to direct checoimg that way
[15:47] <tree49> i m from bootable pendrive
[15:47] <k1l_> checoimg: again: if it works with the regular kernel its quite clear where the problem is
[15:48] <blazemore> tree49: You can follow these instructions, you won't have to reinstall your Ubuntu. Just don't try booting into your custom installed kernel, choose one of the default ones instead
[15:48] <raub> t0phux: you might want to check the partitions you disabled
[15:48] <blazemore> tree49: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/
[15:48] <checoimg> Ok
[15:48] <checoimg> holstein : I'll try that later, Thank you :)
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> tree49: omgubuntu has one called: sticking it to grub
[15:52] <jacks> I keep on getting system has reported a problem message! Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:52] <cutie> ActionParsnip: I have used boot-repair sucesfully in the past
[15:52] <tree49> actionparsnip ??
[15:53] <keythug_> http://www.failmind.com/elenco.php?code=4f8eda95c33d45293c7e4203e57b5f4f
[15:54] <hassan> How to search local drives in Dash in ubuntu 13.04
[15:54] <raub> How do i find the erase block size for a SSD?
[15:55] <awktion> keythug_:
[15:55] <awktion> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
[15:55] <awktion> com.                    752     IN      SOA     a.gtld-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1374681171 1800 900 604800 86400
[15:55] <DJones> keythug_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question
[15:55] <FloodBot1> awktion: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <awktion> shush floodbot
[15:56] <awktion> 3 lines is not a flood
[15:56] <skulltip> where would system fonts be located
[15:56] <Lizards|Work> heh
[15:56] <awktion> ~_~;
[15:56] <awktion> THAT's spam
[15:56] <basilalias> did any1 know how to install opencv 2.4.6 on ubuntu 12.04
[15:56] <awktion> anyway @ keythug_ got a link to a site that actually has DNS?
[15:57] <awktion> !opencv
[15:57] <hassan> How to search local drives in Dash in ubuntu 13.04
[15:57] <Lizards|Work> 8.8.8.8 is google's public DNS afaik
[15:57] <Nach0z> 8.8.4.4 is as well
[15:57] <Nach0z> one's on the east coast and one's on the west, don't remember which though
[15:57] <awktion> basilalias: try google, looks to be pretty simple.
[15:58] <hassan> How to search local drives in Dash in ubuntu 13.04
[15:58] <awktion> 8.8.8.8 has no entry nor does 4.2.2.2
[15:58] <basilalias> thanku awktion
[15:59] <awktion> nor does 8.8.4.4
[15:59] <awktion> i.e. its basically broken.
[15:59] <awktion> probably if its DNS does exist, it doesn't allow for replication
[16:01] <awktion> http://pastebin.com/0DErWEVN <- real dig
[16:02] <Lizards|Work> do you have any networking?
[16:02] <Lizards|Work> can you ping loopback?
[16:04] <irreverant> What's the easiet way to format a 2gb drive in a ubuntu livecd with XFS?
[16:04] <irreverant> What's the easiet way to format a 2gb drive in a ubuntu livecd with XFS?
[16:04] <Lizards|Work> man mkfs
[16:04] <cutie> irreverant: If you want to use a GUI, use gparted
[16:04] <irreverant> are you saying to look at the manual page for make filesystem?
[16:04] <Lizards|Work> correct
[16:05] <irreverant> cutie: so use gparted?
[16:05] <keythug_> wajù io è la prima volta con xchat come si scaricano i file ?
[16:05] <cutie> irreverant: If you want to use a GUI, use gparted
[16:05] <Lizards|Work> gparted works if you can install it
[16:05] <cutie> Lizards|Work: gparted is included on the livecd
[16:05] <Pici> !it | keythug_
[16:05] <cutie> Lizards|Work: it just isn't installed in a proper installation
[16:05] <keythug_> ok
[16:05] <irreverant> cutie: that's what I needed to know.
[16:05] <Lizards|Work> ah, i wasn't 100% on packages on the livecd but not in the install
[16:05] <keythug_>  /join #ubuntu-it
[16:06] <t0phux> I'm pretty sure gparted is on the live cd, no?
[16:06] <keythug_>  #ubuntu-it
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> yah sure you betcha t0phux
[16:07] <cutie> t0phux: You're correct, it is. However, it is removed during installation. This is probably because gparted is a useful tool for diagnostics and stuff, and that's often what people use a LiveCD for
[16:07] <Lizards|Work> but why not include it in the full installation then? it's a GUI for the people who don't want to roll up their sleeves and open the man page for mkfs
[16:07] <edju> I received an email from, according to the header, pesanta.canonical.com.  It says that because of the hack on the ubuntu forum,  I should change passwords at all sites on which I've registered my email address.  Anyone else get such an email?
[16:08] <irreverant> It's a raw drive from a NAS running Raid 5. I need to format it in XFS before the damn thing will be recognized so that I can begin to build the array.
[16:08] <Lizards|Work> edju, everyone who registered at the ubuntu forums
[16:08] <irreverant> So what I'm thinking is throw it in as secondary SATA and boot from the Ubuntu Livecd; so then I can theoritically use gpart to format in XFS, correct?
[16:08] <rantic> A bit of a random question and kind of Ubuntu related ... does anyone know what wireless keyboard is featured in the Ubuntu Edge promo video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLe3iIMN7k&feature=player_detailpage&t=80
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> rantic, #ubuntu-touch is edge central
[16:09] <irreverant> cute: So what I'm thinking is throw it in as secondary SATA and boot from the Ubuntu Livecd; so then I can theoritically use gpart to format in XFS, correct??
[16:09] <irreverant> cutie: anyone:??
[16:09] <edju> Lizards|Work, Ok, so it's not spam.  Problem is, I never registered at ubuntu forums.  I don't use ubuntu, never have.
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> I doubt anyone knows unless they recognizes it though
[16:10] <Lizards|Work> edju, somebody used your email address and registered somewhere then
[16:10] <irreverant> it's either i use ubuntu or knoppix.
[16:11] <PandinusImperato> There has been a security breach on the Ubuntu Forums.
[16:11] <PandinusImperato> interesting
[16:11] <DJones> PandinusImperato: We know, discussion in either #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuforums
[16:11] <PandinusImperato> I'll join those now
[16:13] <irreverant> Does gpart come in the live cd definitevly?
[16:14] <xtrez> i have just installed ubuntu 13.04 and updated my system, i can't find gawk, yacc or bison,.
[16:14] <irreverant> I know i can use  mkfs.xfs but i’m sure of the syntax
[16:14] <raub> irreverant: it seems to be the case in this 13.04 desktop, which I am running as livecd
[16:15] <irreverant> i’m not sure of the syntax since it’s a raw drive
[16:15] <arash> hello , ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my graphics card ,even after updates
[16:15] <irreverant> does it have to be make.xfs //hda1 ?
[16:15] <Lizards|Work> sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-headers-generic
[16:15] <Lizards|Work> arash ^^^^
[16:16] <heyuxiang> ActionParsnip: CD is really slow.
[16:16] <heyuxiang> ActionParsnip: not in a hurry, but time is money
[16:16] <arash> my resolution is incorrect :-(
[16:17] <joshu> why do I keep getting "no protocol specified error opening display :0" no matter what I try to do that I've found on google
[16:17] <arash> ActionParShip : are you there ?
[16:17] <xtrez> why can't i see byacc and flex in ubuntu software center but i can install it from terminal ?
[16:17] <joshu> All I'm trying to do is start xfreerdp from lightdm
[16:18] <xtrez> no one is helping :( :(
[16:19] <rantic> xtrez: What is your problem?
[16:20] <irreverant> mkfs.xfs /dev/sda1
[16:20] <irreverant> is this correct
[16:20] <Lizards|Work> xtrez, does apt-get use the same software repositories as ubuntu package managers?
[16:21] <Euro> And did you check the "show technical files" option?
[16:21] <xtrez> rantic, i can't find byacc, flex, gawk or bison in ubuntu software center but they can be downloaded from terminal using sudo apt-get install.
[16:21] <xtrez> Lizards|Work, how to check that ?
[16:22] <Lizards|Work> irreplaceable, looks accurate if /dev/sda1 is what you want formatted
[16:24] <irreverant> Lizard: well I assume that’s the hard drive that I will be formatting
[16:24] <honvai> how to add memory to a virtual memory card?
[16:24] <irreverant> is hd0 and sd0 the same thing? sd0 represent the harddisk drive correct?
[16:24] <xtrez> Lizards|Work, and rantic  any idea ?
[16:24] <Lizards|Work> hd0 would be pata, neh?
[16:24] <arash> my video card driver is not found :-((
[16:24] <arash> even in additional driver software It doesn't detect It
[16:25] <Lizards|Work> http://google.com#q=ubuntu+software+center+repositories+versus+apt-get
[16:25] <hacksaw> Hello folks, can anyone help me with Ubuntu booting? If I have connected any USB (e.g. mouse) it won't boot, all I get is black screen, google didn't answer anything... I have Dell Inspiron notebook.
[16:27] <OerHeks> Lizards|Work, yes, apt-get and softwarecenter share the same sources. do not use them together, as you will get an error.
[16:27] <OerHeks> * one instance only
[16:29] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | hacksaw
[16:29] <irreverant> ok so sd0 is for SATA connections...
[16:29] <OerHeks> but ubuntuforums is down :-(
[16:29] <irreverant> so there is a distictions in identification for parallel vs sata...
[16:30] <Otaku_> When I try to install the canon driver for my Canon Pixma MP210 i get the following errors: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-51efffd9544595.11162613.png
[16:30] <voe> hi. ive googled to setup my awus036nhr wifi dongle connected to my beaglebone black but i'm still stuck. i dont know cli much. :/
[16:30] <Otaku_>  when i try to install libcupsys2 it says that there is only libcups2 and that i have already the latest version of it.
[16:30] <irreverant> so it’ snot just an arbitrary representation of the connectino type.... so it’s not just harddisk but
[16:30] <hacksaw> ubottu: Yes, I tried this, no sollution given :(
[16:30] <irreverant> ‘sata harddisk’
[16:30] <irreverant> “”
[16:30] <OerHeks> hacksaw, http://askubuntu.com/questions/207175/what-does-nomodeset-do  askubuntu is up
[16:31] <hacksaw> OerHeks:  Yes, this also didn't work for me:(
[16:31] <hacksaw> OerHeks: I'd tried to google something before I came here
[16:32] <awktion> hacksaw: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[16:32] <OerHeks> hacksaw, what videocard does it have, or cards?
[16:33] <Kunal> can someone help me in setting up vnc on my server?
[16:35] <Otaku_> When I try to install the canon driver for my Canon Pixma MP210 i get the following errors: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-51efffd9544595.11162613.png    when i try to install libcupsys2 it says that there is only libcups2 and that i have already the latest version of it.
[16:35] <awktion> !vnc | Kunal
[16:35] <hacksaw> OerHeks: nVidia
[16:35] <hacksaw> OerHeks: Just a minute, I find out the type
[16:36] <Kunal> !freeNX
[16:36] <mynameisdeleted> so.. ccsm crashes
[16:36] <mynameisdeleted> any suggestions?
[16:36] <mynameisdeleted> compiz works but I cant change how it works
[16:36] <hacksaw> OerHeks: GeForce GT 525M
[16:37] <mynameisdeleted> any alternatives to ccsm to configure compiz?
[16:37] <DeltaHeavy> Do any of Ubuntu's other services store any of my passwords as an MD5 hash? I want to know so I can withdraw from those systems.
[16:37] <arash> Ubuntu works well now , but I still have problems with graphics card , the resolution is not good (must be 1024x768 - is 1024x600)
[16:38] <LinXNut> Hello
[16:39] <luigi69> Hello.
[16:40] <luigi69> I have few questions about gnome-terminal colorscheme.
[16:40] <LinXNut> I think the person that hacked the site got my email because someone tried changing my password for Battle.net
[16:40] <LinXNut> 3 times lol
[16:40] <DeltaHeavy> Do any of Ubuntu's other services store any of my passwords as an MD5 hash? I want to know so I can withdraw from those services.
[16:40] <DeltaHeavy> LinXNut: You might want to know that the passwords were hashed in a way where anybody could easily crack them. They might as well have been stored in plain text.
[16:41] <DeltaHeavy> like…EASILY
[16:41] <luigi69> I open my gnome-terminal profile file (%gconf.xml) and I see colros stored like so: "#00002B2B3636" - ain't that too long? What is this format?
[16:41] <DeltaHeavy> It's somewhat VB's fault for using such out-dated tech.
[16:41] <OerHeks> hacksaw, maybe this page about gt 525 http://askubuntu.com/questions/132112/how-to-install-nvidia-geforce-gt525m-driver-on-ubuntu12-04 > when black screen appears, login with ctrl + alt + F2 , and install nvidia current
[16:41] <DeltaHeavy> luigi69: Format is #RRGGBB
[16:42] <LinXNut> I know I have changed my email passwords and everything personal now.
[16:42] <luigi69> So why are mine twisce as large, DeltaHeavy?
[16:42] <DeltaHeavy> I honestly think they should make it more well known exactly how vulnerable people's passwords are
[16:42] <hacksaw> OerHeks: OK, thank you, I'll try this :)
[16:43] <DeltaHeavy> luigi69: Not sure, perhaps they're using more bytes per colour?
[16:43] <ekz> good afternoon
[16:44] <bpat1434> Is it possible to create a new network interface without having hardware behind it?  E.g. I want eth256 not eth0:0
[16:44] <ekz> My ubuntu 12.04 is very glitchy and slow how could i improve it?
[16:45] <LinXNut> ekz what is your graphics card?
[16:45] <ekz> nvidia 8000 notebook gimme a sec
[16:45] <arash> LinXNut can you help me too ? I have a Netbook which has ubuntu 13.04 installed on It
[16:46] <LinXNut> It is also slow and glitchy?
[16:46] <arash> the resolution is not right Its now 1024x600 , It must be 1024x768
[16:46] <kostkon_> arash, netbooks have 1024x600 16:9 res
[16:47] <ekz> geforc 8000m gtx
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> arash, Asking users for help rather than waiting is not a good idea.
[16:47] <arash> @kostkon mine was 1024x768 on windows
[16:47] <kostkon_> arash, are you sure about that?
[16:47] <arash> yes
[16:47] <kostkon_> arash, ok then
[16:47] <mirantistcr> I've got static in my audio and the Ubuntu Forums are down. I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 on a System 76 Gazelle Pro. Is this the right place to get help?
[16:47] <LinXNut> ekz I think you should be using the Noveau driver?
[16:48] <xtrez> rantic, i can't find byacc, flex, gawk or bison in ubuntu software center but they can be downloaded from terminal using sudo apt-get install.?
[16:48] <xtrez> anyone know solution to the above prob
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, Sure, is there a direct to system 76 besides the forums threads?
[16:48] <ekz> how could i change it to the original one?  i think i downloaded before the nvidia drivers
[16:48] <ekz> how could i know? lspci?
[16:48] <OerHeks> bpat1434, yes, the fix is @ 3 " SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="0a:03:27:c2:b4:eb", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" >> change NAME="eth255" i guess >   http://www.serenux.com/2009/11/howto-fix-a-missing-eth0-adapter-after-moving-ubuntu-server-from-one-box-to-another/
[16:48] <LinXNut> yea ekz type "lspic -v" and see what "drivers are in use"
[16:49] <mirantistcr> System 76 doesn't seem to have their own forums.
[16:49] <LinXNut> @ekz in the terminal
[16:49] <luigi69> DeltaHeavy - I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198927/what-color-format-gnome-terminal-color-pallete-use
[16:49] <OerHeks> bpat1434, the solution is that fix reversed
[16:49] <DeltaHeavy> Cools
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, Ah, I was not sure if there was a help via email..etc, but yeaj here is cool.
[16:49] <DeltaHeavy> If anybody cares to read/respond to my query about the password hashes in the forum, it would be appreciated - http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1iyro6/are_the_ubuntu_forums_leaked_password_hashes_only/
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> yeah*
[16:50] <OerHeks> DeltaHeavy, please don't spam, join #ubuntuforums for discussion
[16:50] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, they do have email support, but I figured I'd check here first.
[16:50] <DeltaHeavy> OerHeks: They don't want to hear any critisism
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, Cool, may be faster. ;)
[16:50] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, that's exactly what I was thinking :)
[16:51] <ekz> hello again LinXNut
[16:51] <ekz> indeed i think the nouveau module is active.
[16:51] <LinXNut> Hey did you find ohhh ok
[16:52] <ekz> 	Kernel modules: nvidia_173, nvidia_current, nouveau, nvidiafb
[16:52] <LinXNut> Thats perfect then thats all you need
[16:52] <LinXNut> Is it still glitchy?
[16:52] <xtrez>  i can't find byacc, flex, gawk or bison in ubuntu software center but they can be downloaded from terminal using sudo apt-get install.?
[16:52] <xtrez> pls help me guys, no one here know this ??
[16:52] <ekz> yup it gets very glitchy and also some times tells the system has crashed bla blah
[16:53] <LinXNut> Oh wow...ummm. What type of processor do you have?
[16:53] <LinXNut> xtrez why not just download from the terminal? :o
[16:53] <DJones> xtrez: I can see all three of those in Software centre
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> xtrez, You are not looking correctly, and quit repeating.
[16:54] <xtrez> LinXNut, it's possible that i might not know the name of all the software..
[16:54] <xtrez> DJones, but i can't see all those 3 in software center.
[16:54] <ekz> LinXNut, its  Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 (2.4GHz)
[16:54] <dagerik> xiudo: the software center is a front end to apt-get. just use use apt-get install <software>
[16:55] <dagerik> xiudo: apt-cache search <term> to search
[16:55] <irreverant> i need to know another linux distro that’s simple, possibly light, gui and has gparted available that comes in a livecd
[16:55] <xtrez> wilee-nilee, i am looking it carefull really i can't find them.
[16:55] <irreverant> ubuntu live won’t load on this win 7 box
[16:55] <mumpitze1> xtrez: apt-cache search yacc
[16:55] <OerHeks> xtrez, they are not in the repo's afaik > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7320370/installation-of-flex-and-bison-in-ubuntu
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> irreverant  win7 has nothing to do with it
[16:55] <irreverant> well it’s a dell box
[16:55] <mumpitze1> irreverant: why are you asking this in #ubuntu then? I suggest ##linux. gparted has its own livecd
[16:56] <LinXNut> ekz: are you using any compositing manager? Like compiz or visual effects?
[16:56] <DJones> !info flex
[16:56] <xtrez> mumpitze1, it dislpays all the requried software that way, but they are not visible in software center.
[16:56] <mumpitze1> OerHeks: of course they are http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bison&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all
[16:57] <ekz> mmm im using cairo dock, and the regular sidebar from ubuntu
[16:57] <OerHeks> xtrez, install synaptics for detailed packagelists.
[16:57] <luigi69> How could I have 16 colors pallete in gnome-terminal (8 base colros + 16 bright colors)? By default I have the bright colors used for bold instead.
[16:57] <LinXNut> ekz: maybe turn off cairo dock and see how it operates?
[16:58] <luigi69> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6419178/colortest.png
[16:58] <ekz> it works the same! ... im using it now cairo-dock without open gl
[16:58] <LinXNut> Your graphics card is similar to mine, it shouldn't be lagging at all
[16:59] <DJones> !screenshot | xtrez Can you take a screenshot of software centre when you search for bison and upload it to imagebin so that we can see what you're seeing
[16:59] <xtrez> DJones, just a sec
[16:59] <xtrez> OerHeks, can't find synaptics
[16:59] <farbod> hi
[17:00] <LinXNut> ekz: Do you mean when you open things its slow or just the graphics is lagging?
[17:00] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, this is what I have for audio in DMESG: [    2.877980] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:03.0: irq 48 for MSI/MSI-X
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.882583] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.889685] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=8 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input6
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.892423] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=7 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input7
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.892728] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input8
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.893869] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 49 for MSI/MSI-X
[17:00] <FloodBot1> mirantistcr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:00] <ekz> i know it used to work better with previous ubuntu but now i dont know whats going on
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, I would not have any idea.
[17:01] <LinXNut> maybe disable the nvidia_current, and nvidia drivers. Leave the Noveau
[17:01] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, thanks. I'll post to general.
[17:01] <LinXNut> If its better, it should be okay.
[17:01] <xtrez> DJones, no after doing sudo apt-get update and restarting my machine, they all are visible in software center
[17:02] <DJones> xtrez: Ah well, problem solved
[17:02] <xtrez> DJones, :)
[17:02] <xtrez> DJones, synaptic no longer there in ubuntu ?
[17:03] <mirantistcr> Hello all. I'm having an issue where there is some static in my audio. The audio part of dmesg is here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5908233/
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, Cool, I assume that is probably a tough problem, could be any number of variables.
[17:03] <DJones> xtrez: Not by default, software centre is installed by default instead, but you can install synaptic
[17:04] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, I would think that System 76 would have that working since they are a Linux integrator :P
[17:04] <ekz> LinXNut, basicly when i open lets say staroffice it just slows down the pc and also glitches  and lags on graphis
[17:04] <ekz> graphics
[17:04] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, it's a bit frustrating :D
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, It would be yes, however I have never seen another with this problem, but I don't follow there threads.
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> their*
[17:06] <xtrez> DJones, done :)
[17:06] <ekz> by the way ppl what happened to ubuntu forums? they were hacked the 20th? so bad :(
[17:07] <Nach0z> ayup
[17:07] <mirantistcr> Yeah. They're still down, too.
[17:07] <gabriella> #ubuntu-it
[17:08] <ekz> does anyone knows about ISO27000??
[17:08] <ufk> how do i start jpda in tomcat ?
[17:08] <joy_frey> hey, support team here?
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> joy_frey, one big support family.
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> joy_frey, There are channels for specific support some are dev.
[17:10] <joy_frey> wilee-nilee,  ok ) then i need head of screen saver aplication
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> joy_frey, Not sure there it is not on stock.
[17:11] <toss1> i hab grub rescue problem in ubuntu and i formatted drive having ubuntu even window is not opening i m from live usb and it shows error filesystem grub rescue
[17:11] <toss1> plse help me
[17:11] <ekz> LinXNut,  any recomendations to disable something or to improve my linux experience???
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> toss1, This a W8 dual boot a lot more details please for the channel.
[17:13] <joy_frey> work to forum ..
[17:13] <toss1> wilee-nilee i didnt get what u mean
[17:13] <toss1> yea it is the case of win8 dual boot
[17:13] <ekz> any software were you could create a windows USB installation Disk using an iso??? under ubuntu?
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> toss1, This app is a good repair gui, however it is best to just run the bootinfo summary to post for help, this will give a lot of details. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:14] <holstein> ekz: i would ask a windows support channel, and try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[17:15] <luigi69> How could I setup the 0-7 bold colors to be have same colors like norm 0-7? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6419178/colortest.png
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> toss1, I have to take off for physical rehab but will be back in a couple of hours if you still need help.
[17:15] <zAo^_> Is there a way to speed up scrolling in Xorg/Gnome3? tried xinput, but no luck
[17:15] <toss1> ok buddie
[17:15] <holstein> zAo^_: scrolling in some web browser? you could try configuring the browser scroll speed
[17:15] <ekz> ok i would ask again, is there a way to create USB INSTALATION DISKs from any ISO? ...
[17:16] <zAo^_> holstein: chromium; but they removed that option!
[17:16] <zAo^_> I used to start with --scrol-pixels=400
[17:16] <holstein> ekz: let me link you again to http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html and ##windows .. or unetbootin for *any* usb stick from most linux iso's
[17:16] <holstein> !unetbootin
[17:17] <ekz> just saw the link , thank you by the way ill try to use it ! buig hug !
[17:22] <prashant_123456> when will ubuntu forums will resume to its state ?
[17:23] <DeltaHeavy> prashant_123456: They're unsure. Anyway you may be interested in this - http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1iyro6/are_the_ubuntu_forums_leaked_password_hashes_only/
[17:23] <DeltaHeavy> Change any passwords that were the same as your Ubuntu forums as they might as well have been in plain text.
[17:25] <prashant_123456> DeltaHeavy, approx how much time will it take to resume ?
[17:25] <savid> It appears network manager just went crazy on my system. I lost internet connectivity, and noticed a lot of inet traffic in my system monitor. I used jnettop to show what was hogging it, and something was flooding my DNS server with UDP packets on port 53. Eventually I found out it was the dnsmasq program doing it.  What would cause this to happen?
[17:25] <savid> I've since disabled network manager and went to manual configuration
[17:26] <DJones> Gues88604: Please fix your connection
[17:26] <DeltaHeavy> prashant_123456: Don't know, only got snippy responses from #ubuntuforums
[17:26] <k1l_> prashant_123456: #ubuntuforums is the right place for that topic
[17:26] <DeltaHeavy> Assuming they're willing to help you
[17:26] <prashant_123456> k1l_,  thanks
[17:29] <savid> If my computer was spitting out tons of packets on UDP port 53, would that mean my computer is performing a DOS attack?
[17:29] <savid> (ie, it's been compromised)?
[17:30] <DeltaHeavy> savid: Probably not, port 53 is for DNS
[17:30] <savid> DeltaHeavy, hmm.  ok.
[17:30] <awktion> lol
[17:30] <savid> I'm not sure what happened then
[17:30] <awktion> do you have dnsutils installed?
[17:30] <awktion> ps fauxww|grep bind
[17:31] <Kunal> sudo: unable to create sockets: Cannot allocate memory
[17:31] <Kunal>  , what should i do?
[17:31] <savid> awktion, no
[17:31] <k1l_> Kunal: which command?
[17:31] <awktion> savid: http://pastebin.com/gL33WGr9
[17:31] <awktion> ah
[17:31] <awktion> then there must have been a flurry of lookups
[17:31] <Kunal> sudo mkdir -p /etc/vncserver
[17:32] <awktion> many webpages have hundreds of elements, and good sites split this up amongst several cnames
[17:32] <awktion> One thing you can do is setup bind, run it, and basically use it as your own personal dns cache
[17:32] <savid> awktion, ah, that's a great idea.
[17:32] <awktion> then you can setup logging, and see what was looked up when
[17:32] <streulma> hello, someone familliar with grub ?
[17:33] <awktion> add in some blocklists if your bored
[17:33] <awktion> etc
[17:33] <awktion> hf
[17:33] <varunendra> !ask | streulma
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> !details | streulma
[17:33] <savid> I will definitely do that.  Thanks!
[17:34] <k1l_> Kunal: no need for -p (but why are you making that in anyway? just installing vnc should do that on its own)
[17:35] <streulma> I have a virtualserver runs under KVM and in grub there is root hd0;0 and /dev/vda1, when I update kernel or remove menu.lst and redo update-grub then I have /dev/hd0 as root and UUID as dev
[17:35] <Kunal> after rebooting i have to start vcn server through ssh to log in using tightvnc
[17:35] <dubhdara> anyone here good with ubuntu on a mac
[17:36] <antivirtel> hello, can someone answer to my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323509/lenovo-e525-lock-button-as-a-hotkey ? thanks!
[17:36] <streulma> dubhdara: yes
[17:36] <dubhdara> ah okay
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> !anyone
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> dubhdara, streulma ^^^^^
[17:38] <dubhdara> the install cd don't on ubnuntu 12.10 don't like the graphics on the mac g4 its the ati128 card
[17:38] <sudobash> wow it really saddens me to find Ubuntu 11/12/13 as completely unusable from Live cd / dvd on a brand new lenovo i3 with 4 GB of ddr3 as it is freezing up and becoming unresponsive every few minutes... What's happened to Ubuntu, please tell me?
[17:38] <k1l_> Kunal: does it work without -p?
[17:38] <dubhdara> is there some way i can configure graphics at the boot uping]
[17:39] <Kunal> nope
[17:39] <DeltaHeavy> sudobash: Perhaps your hardware isn't fully supported. They work fine for me.
[17:39] <zAo^_> Is there no way to alter the scroll speed??
[17:39] <awktion> dubhdara:
[17:39] <dubhdara> okay next then
[17:39] <awktion> whenever you run into issues like that, use the alternate
[17:39] <sudobash> maybe the WM that ubuntu has chosen sucks ass?
[17:39] <awktion> the alternate disk typically dumps the live portion and adds in more drivers
[17:39] <dubhdara> hold on i used the min alternate
[17:40] <sudobash> if I stay in CLI it works fine :-|
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> sudobash, your experience in no way represents any body else, don't lump others, or use it as a opinion which sounds like fud.
[17:40] <dubhdara> but it just gave me a text screen when i boot up
[17:40] <sudobash> Sorry, just been using ubuntu stil 6.04 and I find the newer versions to be crap
[17:40] <dubhdara> how do i tell it at terminal that i wanna install gnome
[17:40] <sudobash> as thousands of others have as well no doubt
[17:40] <Kunal>  plus when i try to run an application it says 'starting <application name>' but it doesnt starts
[17:40] <Kunal> using vpn*
[17:40] <Catbuntu> Hello hallo; if you install `xubuntu-desktop` in a normal Ubuntu 13.04, will it be slower than a normal Xubuntu installation?
[17:41] <awktion> Catbuntu: xubuntu install and xubuntu-desktop install are perported to be the same
[17:41] <[Raiden]> Catbuntu: no
[17:41] <awktion> in reality there's a few extra config bits that get done by the distro installer
[17:41] <awktion> so yes
[17:41] <awktion> do two side by side and they will NOT be the same
[17:42] <awktion> but very close, and i think the packages should be pretty close
[17:42] <ekz> hello could anyone tell me if linux has a mobile version???????
[17:42] <awktion> ekz: yes/no
[17:42] <awktion> both
[17:42] <ekz> ¿?
[17:42] <awktion> there are mobile versions, most are not very mature
[17:42] <dubhdara> so what do i do about getting a graphical environment
[17:42] <awktion> for cell phones, there's ubuntu on arm, but its not really very useful
[17:42] <cielak> how about android?
[17:42] <k1l_> Kunal: is your server out of ram?
[17:42] <awktion> dubhdara: i'd just install that xubuntu desktop package
[17:43] <streulma> I run Ubuntu on my Galaxy S3 :)
[17:43] <dubhdara> would that put gnome on it
[17:43] <k1l_> Kunal: is it a virtual server?
[17:43] <ekz> hows the performance? ..
[17:43] <ekz> what version are you running?
[17:43] <Kunal> kinda , actualy it is a free vps i got from host1free
[17:43] <awktion> streulma: and you run android right
[17:43] <streulma> awktion: yes
[17:43] <awktion> thats not the same, its a /vm/chrooted linux
[17:43] <Kunal> 128 mb ram :P
[17:43] <dubhdara> 12.10
[17:43] <awktion> you get into it via vlc, very crap
[17:43] <k1l_> !touch | ekz
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> ekz, You want the #ubuntu-touch channel otherwise your off topic.
[17:44] <sudobash> dubhdara, yes it will probably get you a graphicial environment
[17:44] <awktion> ubuntu for arm is first party install, meaning direct hardware access and IS the os
[17:44] <dubhdara> that is the video card
[17:44] <dubhdara> memory
[17:44] <k1l_> Kunal: you are overpowering that vps
[17:44] <ekz> thank you very much my friend
[17:44] <Kunal> hmm..
[17:44] <dubhdara> the mac has lots more memory chips on it
[17:44] <dubhdara> its pretty fast
[17:44] <Kunal> so nothing can be done?
[17:44] <k1l_> Kunal: its using more ram than its got. so dont start a desktop there. that will not work
[17:44] <awktion> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[17:44] <k1l_> Kunal: use ssh instead of starting a desktop and using vnc
[17:45] <Kunal> ohk
[17:45] <Kunal> thx
[17:45] <Catbuntu> I know [Raiden] and awktion, but that would be having everything of Unity AND Xfce, not only Xfce, so it would be slower?
[17:45] <Catbuntu> Or there's no conflict between Unity and Xfce?
[17:45] <yugandhar> Hi, I need quick help. I couldn't ssh the server even it is pinging. I am getting the error while removing the openssh-server package "E: The package nginx-johndoe needs to be reinstalled"
[17:46] <yugandhar> pls help me
[17:46] <yugandhar> on this
[17:46] <dubhdara> apt-get install pack name
[17:46] <dubhdara> at a terminal prompt
[17:46] <Pici> yugandhar: why are you removing openssh-server?
[17:46] <ekz> hello streulma can you tell me how is it the performance are you running ubuntu?
[17:47] <wizard_A> http://askubuntu.com/questions/126545/i-would-like-to-make-a-virtual-router-on-ubuntu-12-04: gives some errors
[17:47] <awktion> Catbuntu: they can exist side by side but it sux
[17:47] <yugandhar> openssh-server is not running on this server
[17:47] <awktion> you'll have a lot of doubled and tripled options
[17:47] <k1l_> ekz: can we sort that into #ubuntu-touch or #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[17:47] <awktion> and no its not as fast
[17:47] <ekz> great thnkx
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> !help > yugandhar
[17:47] <awktion> http://askubuntu.com/questions/292394/how-to-completely-remove-unity-and-replace-it-with-cinnamon
[17:47] <awktion> there's one example of removing unity and putting in cinnamon
[17:47] <awktion> you could put in the dwm of your choice
[17:48] <Catbuntu> What sucks awktion?
[17:48] <k1l_> Catbuntu: there is no reason for that to be slower
[17:48] <k1l_> Catbuntu: you can switch the desktops when selecting on the login screen
[17:48] <awktion> having xfce and /gnome/unity/kde/whatever side by side
[17:48] <Catbuntu> I know k1l_
[17:48] <awktion> the -desktop packages are meta, so they pull in a whole env
[17:49] <awktion> like text editor, browser, file managers, everything
[17:49] <Catbuntu> I remember having kubuntu- and xubuntu-desktop in a normal Ubuntu install a year ago or so and yes it sucked that's true.
[17:49] <awktion> yeah
[17:49] <k1l_> awktion: but things that dont get loaded because they are not needed dont slow anything down
[17:49] <awktion> i would multiboot
[17:49] <Catbuntu> But IIRC there's something you can do in the .desktop files to make them show in just one environment.
[17:49] <k1l_> :/
[17:49] <awktion> k1l_: that just shows youve not had it done
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> awktion, Removing unity is a waste of time The cinnamon install is just a few packages they share gnome 3.
[17:49] <awktion> it does make a difference
[17:49] <awktion> wilee-nilee: ah right, was a fast link
[17:49] <k1l_> awktion: no
[17:49] <awktion> not sure if anyone made a comprehensive list
[17:50] <k1l_> you are not right on that
[17:50] <awktion> k1l_: sorry bro but you really don't know what your talking about.
[17:50] <Pici> awktion: No it doesn't. Please stop spreading FUD
[17:50] <awktion> as evidenced by what's coming out of your irc client.
[17:50] <reisio> Catbuntu: uninstalling the other ones being the simplest way
[17:50] <awktion> its not fud Pici go do some benchmarks
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> awktion, the psychocats website has desktop lists
[17:50] <ekz> what would be the best basic startup configurations for ubuntu? how can i check whats running for startup and change it?
[17:50] <awktion> ~_~
[17:50] <k1l_> awktion: you are talking wrong and i already explained why. so stop that
[17:50] <reisio> ekz: 'service' command maybe
[17:50] <DeltaHeavy> awktion: You are wrong...
[17:51] <awktion> there is most certainly a difference between having 2-3GB of installed packages and 4-5GB
[17:51] <awktion> this is why there are so many minimal installs
[17:51] <awktion> BECAUSE of the differences
[17:51] <DeltaHeavy> Cinnamon and Unity use a lot of the same packages.
[17:51] <awktion> now, there's no issue having multiple window managers
[17:51] <reisio> mostly the space those package take up on the storage device, though
[17:51] <awktion> just don't bother with the whole environments
[17:51] <DeltaHeavy> Removing Unity from Ubuntu is going to cause you more headaches than it's worth.
[17:51] <awktion> no need for kate + gedit + mouse
[17:51] <k1l_> awktion: stuff that is not needed by xubuntu-desktop doesnt get loaded when xubuntu is booted. so stop that FUD. EOD
[17:52] <awktion> again k1l_ the existance of those files on disk makes a difference
[17:52] <awktion> AND
[17:52] <DeltaHeavy> awktion: Files existing on a disk doesn't result in a performance hit.
[17:52] <awktion> there are several daemons started by each DWM that are unique
[17:52] <awktion> yes
[17:52] <awktion> yes it most certainly does
[17:52] <awktion> MOST CERTIANLY
[17:52] <Pici> awktion: how?
[17:52] <DeltaHeavy> awktion: Everybody is telling you, you're wrong. Stop being so brash and stubborn.
[17:53] <Lizards|Work> hdd vs ssd he may have a point
[17:53] <k1l_> to clear that up. just having files on your hdds that are not used doesnt slow anything down.
[17:53] <Lizards|Work> but if it's ssd it's moot
[17:53] <DeltaHeavy> On an HDD there is a marginal, unnoticeable hit that shouldn't even be considered.
[17:53] <Lizards|Work> not nonexistent though
[17:53] <ekz> is there a gui where you can click or unclick the services for startup???
[17:54] <reisio> there's probably one you can get
[17:54] <Catbuntu> Should Unity 7 (in Ubuntu 13.04) work well in a computer with a Nvidia 9300M GS graphics card and 3GB of RAM?
[17:54] <varunendra> ekz, Power button > Startup Applications.... in Unity on my 12.04
[17:54] <reisio> Catbuntu: most likely, you might check if the nvidia driver supports that specific model first
[17:54] <Catbuntu> Weird thing is that the sticker in the computer says it's an Intel Centrino, but if I look it up using software (even in Windows) it says Intel Core 2 Duo.
[17:54] <dubhdara1> in the tasksel
[17:54] <Catbuntu> It's 2GHz anyway.
[17:54] <dubhdara1> it give many different
[17:54] <dubhdara1> sets
[17:54] <Catbuntu> Yep it does reisio.
[17:54] <reisio> Catbuntu: well, centrino is a buzzword/branding for more than just a processor
[17:55] <dubhdara1> which should i install for the graphical enviro
[17:55] <reisio> and intel's always been awful at naming things
[17:55] <dubhdara1> you said xunbuntu - destop
[17:55] <dubhdara1> right
[17:55] <Catbuntu> Oh I see.
[17:55] <nirjhor> hello
[17:55] <nirjhor> I have installed handbrake from ppa
[17:55] <reisio> nirjhor: hi
[17:55] <nirjhor> but how can I launch it from command line?
[17:56] <reisio> nirjhor: dpkg -L handbrake | grep bin
[17:56] <Catbuntu> Well I'm going to try Ubuntu 13.04 again :P
[17:56] <nirjhor> handbrake-gtk doesn't run anything
[17:56] <reisio> but if you want commandline, install ffmpeg instead
[17:56] <varunendra> ekz, but the services are hidden by default. You will have to edit relevant .desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart directory for corresponding services/applications
[17:56] <Catbuntu> See you all later ♥
[17:56] <reisio> peace
[17:56] <Pici> nirjhor: theres a handbrake-cli binary, but you'll need to make sure that you've installed it.
[17:57] <nirjhor> reisio: thanks man
[17:58] <niranjan> Hi there, I am seeing following messages duplicated every second Jul 24 10:54:42 fiport2 kernel: [2485180.682995] input: Logitech USB Optical Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/input/input40167
[17:58] <niranjan> Jul 24 10:54:42 fiport2 kernel: [2485180.683239] generic-usb 0003:046D:C05A.9CE3: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:12.0-2/input0
[17:58] <nirjhor> reisio: it solved the problem
[17:58] <niranjan> What is causing it?
[17:59] <ekz> its just like user application, how could you modify the linux startup services like the main boot, cause i think theres something slowingdown my installation
[18:00] <Lizards|Work> superkey -> Startup Applications
[18:02] <Guest57332> привет
[18:03] <tvviztid> I had Lubuntu installed to a 120GB HDD. I put FreeDOS and the computer's last BIOS update onto a 1.44 Floppy and upgraded with no issue, but now I keep getting hung on the BIOS now(I've battery pulled to reset multiple times). The drive works perfectly on another machine I have here. I've tried every Master/Slave combo there is possible.  Any suggestions?
[18:04] <tvviztid> IDE HDD
[18:05] <tvviztid> I have also tried other hard drives but very rarely will they get identified.
[18:07] <joshu> ikonia ping
[18:08] <ikonia> joshu: hello
[18:08] <Lizards|Work> tvviztid, try an alternate IDE cable?
[18:08] <tvviztid> Yes.
[18:09] <reisio> FloodBot1: you go girl
[18:10] <vaurdan> hey
[18:10] <tvviztid> It is an old Gateway E-4000. They are very annoying to identify. Took me quite a while to find my correct model and search the deep ends of Google to get the last BIOS.
[18:10] <vaurdan> do you know why notifications sounds on skype always sound so crancky?
[18:11] <Lizards|Work> you're 100% you got a good flash on the BIOS?
[18:12] <tvviztid> Yes. Not long after I did it I booted FreeDOS live cd/Lubuntu/ and a few other Lightweight CDs I had laying around.
[18:12] <Lizards|Work> is the hdd set to bootable in BIOS?
[18:12] <tvviztid> I even flashed it again to make sure it. When it does want to boot I have it boot from a LiveUSB of Lubuntu.
[18:12] <tvviztid> I can't access the BIOS, it hangs on startup.
[18:13] <tvviztid> I've tried having everything unplugged but the HDD and still the same.
[18:13] <Lizards|Work> it's not like it bypasses BIOS when it boots a live os
[18:14] <toss1> hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help
[18:14] <tvviztid> I'm starting to think it was just a poor brand of Gateway machines.
[18:14] <tvviztid> Use to be my father's work computer.
[18:14] <toss1> how can i remove grub and iwindows nstall loader using live ubuntu in usb
[18:15] <toss1>  hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help
[18:18] <tvviztid> I'll just bang it around for a bit hope it works. Thanks.
[18:18] <Lizards|Work> good luck
[18:19] <voila> hello
[18:19] <voila> I tar one directory .. when I untar it using tar-xvf .. then it left inner direcotries tar ..
[18:19] <voila> how do i solve it
[18:20] <toss1> hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help how  to uninstall using live usb ubuntu
[18:20] <reisio> voila: hrmm?
[18:20] <voila> hrmm ???
[18:20] <voila> no idea about this
[18:20] <reisio> voila: are you asking how to make a tar with a top-level directory in it, rather than just loose contents?
[18:21] <Morgan_Freeman> http://imgur.com/gallery/CEuO5e7  Haunted Forest?
[18:22] <reisio> pretty
[18:22] <ikonia> Morgan_Freeman: ow is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[18:22] <ikonia> although I do agree it's pretty
[18:22] <Morgan_Freeman> my mistake
[18:22] <Morgan_Freeman>  /amsg
[18:22] <voila> reisio,  My motive is to transfer directory using scp .. I tar it and transfer ... when i untar it using tar -xvf .. then i found it untar only top level directory .. all inner level directory are still tar-ed
[18:23] <ikonia> Morgan_Freeman: no problem
[18:23] <reisio> voila: sounds like you tar'd it oddly in the first place
[18:23] <reisio> voila: you don't have to tar to scp, either
[18:24] <voila> reisio, I cannot transfer folder through scp or can i ?
[18:24] <reisio> voila: yes, with -r
[18:24] <reisio> or more reliably with rsync, or rsync+ssh if you prefer
[18:24] <voila> okies .. let me try
[18:27] <nimdAHK> where does identd insert itself so that it runs on startup?
[18:29] <vaurdan> do you know why notifications sounds and login sound on skype is noisy?
[18:29] <SuperLag> I'm from Oregon, but I'm in NL for a month. Should the timezone on my system adjust automatically by the location, or do I have to change it manually? And will changing that have any side effects on the rest of the system?
[18:29] <reisio> your PCM is too high
[18:29] <reisio> SuperLag: manually probably, yes it'll give the correct time
[18:30] <reisio> SuperLag: you could also just setup ntp, and the time will correct itself automatically and you won't have to mess with the timezone
[18:30] <reisio> but for long stays in other timezones, may as well just change it
[18:32] <SuperLag> done
[18:34] <arc__> hi is there any visualisation programs in ubuntu execpt virual box
[18:34] <ikonia> kvm, xen
[18:34] <arc__> what
[18:36] <sssd> hey guys, i have a problem with unity, directly after PC-Start i can't click on any Icon, with ctrl + alt + f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 helps temporarily  but i can't after this Work-Arround a can't open the Unity-Dash :(
[18:36] <sssd> Now i have try'd to use booth propritary videocard-drivers, but without changes :(
[18:37] <lauratika> im trying to install ubuntu on a sd card, how can i run the iso image form a pc to get it install on the card?
[18:38] <benjamindees> is it safe to assume that NetworkManager is the program responsible for scuttling my wi-fi speed down to 1Mb, or might it be something else?
[18:38] <Lizards|Work> could be on the router
[18:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Anyone on?
[18:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I'm about to install Ubuntu.
[18:40] <reisio> benjamindees: probably something else, but you can get wifi without it and see
[18:40] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: neat
[18:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Cool, hi.
[18:40] <voila> I stuck .. I want to untar all files and directory in a particular directory .. how can i do this
[18:40] <reisio> /msg alis list #ubuntu says there are 1,628 people on
[18:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> So, question is, can I do it as an ISO with Win8 currently running?
[18:41] <reisio> voila: -C
[18:41] <reisio> voila: man tar
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> 1) I do not want to keep Win8, I will completely rewrite it.
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> 2) I do not have a CD.
[18:41] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: you should be able to
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Thanks.
[18:41] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: I can't comment on any UEFI nonsense, though
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I... Don't know what that is.
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Should I?
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> This will be my first Linux.
[18:41] <reisio> there's a chance you might want to keep Windows 8 around to manage that, or possibly not, I don't follow it
[18:41] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: make a live usb system and install from that
[18:41] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: min
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> no, no need for Win8.
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Win8 is the reason I'm changing to Ubuntu.
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Win7 was one of the best OS ever.
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Win8 is like using a Vista sheen on an ME.
[18:42] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: maybe you need to turn off safeboot uefi stuff in the bios menu
[18:42] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI best I can do :p
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Crap >.<
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I'll use a memory stick...
[18:42] <amsourav> install it using the wubi web client
[18:42] <reisio> ?
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Will I still be able to do the full install with memstick?
[18:42] <z0ran> best os ever! come on...define best os ever, in what way
[18:42] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: but that is only if its enabled alreads. just give it a try
[18:42] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: usb stick, cd, dvd, all the same
[18:43] <k1l> amsourav: wubi :(
[18:43] <PuffTheMagicDrag> amsourav, I really, really don't want to keep Win8.
[18:43] <lauratika> is it possible to install ubuntu via iso set on my pc to a usb?
[18:43] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I want JUST Ubuntu. Is that what you're saying
[18:43] <Lizards|Work> wubi is lawl
[18:43] <Lizards|Work> i thought they killed wubi
[18:43] <k1l> !ot | z0ran
[18:43] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: yes
[18:43] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: make the usb stick and give it a go
[18:43] <predateur> hello
[18:43] <reisio> 'lo
[18:43] <ananassa> oh boy I haven't use IRC before
[18:43] <PuffTheMagicDrag> k1l, Yeah, doing so now.
[18:44] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Can i drop the ISO in ISO form on the stick? Or is there a special Stick boot version?
[18:44] <ananassa> I'm trying to follow the instructions for installing, ideally alongside Windows 7, but the disc (a DVD) will not boot on restart.
[18:44] <Lizards|Work> http://pendrivelinux.com
[18:45] <ananassa> Surprise surprise.
[18:45] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:45] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Why would you do Win7 and Ubuntu sidebyside?
[18:45] <ananassa> I get a blank screen with a blinking underscore for about a second before Windows starts.
[18:45] <voila> reisio, yes i will learn .. but really its urgent :)
[18:45] <jmav> mounting ubuntu server 12.04.2 iso file is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:45] <ananassa> Pressing seemingly any key in this time takes me to the Windows Boot Manager, with no option to boot from CD or anything, just things about Safe Mode and stuff like that. What exactly am I supposed to do?
[18:45] <reisio> voila: well it says in the man page
[18:45] <jmav> how to make it writable
[18:46] <reisio> voila: tar -xpf foo.tar -C new/dir/path/here/
[18:46] <reisio> jmav: you'd have to copy it, then unsquash it, then modify it, then resquash, then re-image
[18:46] <Lizards|Work> reisio, i would have gone bar.tar
[18:46] <reisio> Lizards|Work: that's sick :p
[18:46] <Lizards|Work> baz.tar.gz
[18:48] <PuffTheMagicDrag> So, guys, I know you suggested pendrivelinux, but I'm not really seeing it as the exact same, just on a pendrive. So... If I put the boot ISO on the thumb drive, will it read it as it would a boot disc?
[18:48] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: probably
[18:48] <jmav> reisio: any url with help, basic goal is to add preseed file to image or USB boot key
[18:48] <PuffTheMagicDrag> And if worst comes to worst, you're sure I can just install Ubuntu straight from my Win8 desktop?
[18:48] <PuffTheMagicDrag> And completely wipe Win8?
[18:48] <predateur> hello
[18:49] <reisio> jmav: there are tools to master your own images, I forget their names
[18:49] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: yeah, probably
[18:49] <reisio> predateur: 'lo
[18:49] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Well, guess we'll find out. Thanks, guys.
[18:49] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I do appreciate the help.
[18:49] <ananassa> Is there any way to boot a CD using Windows Boot Manager? I'm not seeing it.
[18:50] <CarlFK> I need official Adobe reader to decrypt some pdf form I need to fill in - is there an archive or something, or do I have to go though adobee.com web install?
[18:50] <jmav> I tried with UCK but without luck on ubuntu server
[18:50] <reisio> CarlFK: should be in some repo
[18:51] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AcrobatHowTo
[18:51] <reisio> perhaps not <shrug>
[18:51] <bazhang> !info acroread partner | CarlFK
[18:52] <CarlFK> bazhang: thanks
[18:52] <bazhang> np
[18:52] <jmav> Or, what is the simplest procedure to add new preseed file to iso image
[18:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Guys, last question.
[18:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Win8 does this weird shit I've never seen. It asks me how I want to use this, as rewriteable or not.
[18:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Since I've never gotten that question before...
[18:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Obviously I know what rewritable is, but Win8 is scaring em.
[18:54] <PuffTheMagicDrag> me*
[18:55] <heyuxiang> hello, how do i know what vga driver is currently being used?
[18:55] <ananassa> PuffTheMagicDrag: Is it asking if you want to use to CD/USB/etc. as storage? It does that in Win7 too.
[18:56] <reisio> heyuxiang: sudo lspci -k | grep -i vga -A 2
[18:56] <rosco_y> how do I speed up the rate that my mouse cursor travels over the desktop?
[18:56] <reisio> rosco_y: xset m
[18:56] <rosco_y> reisio: ty, is that at the command-line?
[18:56] <reisio> rosco_y: yes, but you can have it run automatically every time X/GNOME/Unity/etc. starts
[18:57] <heyuxiang> reisio: thanks : Kernel driver in use: i915
[18:57] <rosco_y> reisio: ty, how would I have it run automatically?
[18:57] <heyuxiang> reisio: is it the best driver for my intel HD graphic?
[18:58] <reisio> heyuxiang: most likely
[18:58] <reisio> rosco_y: something here http://www.google.com/search?q=help%20ubuntu%20autostart
[18:58] <reisio> I don't use GNOME/Unity or I'd be specific :)
[18:59] <rosco_y> thank you again!
[19:01] <Notionwork> Heyo! Anyone know if the Edge will be able to run other distos of Linux, since it can run a full Ubuntu install?
[19:02] <compdoc> heh
[19:02] <k1l> Notionwork: better ask in #ubuntu-touch for that specific questions
[19:03] <Notionwork> k1l: Thanks will do!
[19:03] <Madwill> Hello how can i install java 1.7 openJre on ubuntu server 8.04 if when i do "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre" i get "Package openjdk-7-jre is not available"
[19:03] <TheUser> Anyone tried yagi antennas, indoor?
[19:04] <DJones> Madwill: Ubuntu 8.04 is no longer supported
[19:04] <DJones> Madwill: Server support ended in May this year, so any repo's for it are likely to have been removed
[19:05] <Madwill> ok but can i add one from another source or something ?
[19:05] <OerHeks> not sure EOLupgrade trick provides openjdk 7
[19:05] <Madwill> damn
[19:06] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[19:06] <DJones> Madwill: You may find a ppa or repo, but I wouldn't like to rely on it working
[19:06] <Madwill> screw you server support provider
[19:06] <OerHeks> ...
[19:06] <Madwill> i mean the companie that gives me ubuntu 8.04 only
[19:07] <Madwill> everything's been harder because of it
[19:07] <werxxx> I need help
[19:07] <DeltaHeavy> They sounds incompetant
[19:07] <Lizards|Work> it ships with some legacy hardware
[19:07] <DJones> Madwill: It may well be worth pointing out to them that its end of life and no longer supported
[19:07] <dlpenguinlover> Madwill: so you're running a company issued server?
[19:08] <Madwill> pardon my english i speak french, this is a company called revolution Linux and provide server maintenances, i'm a programmer and my company employs them
[19:08] <Madwill> but they provide shit
[19:08] <Halite> -.-
[19:09] <IdleOne> Madwill: That has nothing to do with this channel and please keep the language clean in here
[19:09] <Madwill> ok sorry i'm not resonable
[19:09] <dlpenguinlover> Madwill: You should ask them about upgrading your servers to 12.04 LTS.
[19:09] <sha512> hey guys
[19:10] <Madwill> i will create a ticket
[19:10] <sha512> the question may be completely irrelevant but still i am asking
[19:11] <sha512> would ubuntu phone be available only for prebookers/donaters or would people be able to buy it after release
[19:11] <DJones> !phone | sha512
[19:11] <histo> !phone | sha512
[19:11] <Halite> I'm not sure if Ubuntu cannot detect Packard Bell's colour space requirements or if it is the hardware itself, but the colour profile I created in Color Settings assume the monitor output levels of green are slightly lower than all the others. This results in desirable effects sometimes - and undesirable ones other times.
[19:11] <Halite> How do I control or fix my problem?
[19:11] <sha512> thanks all
[19:11] <sha512> :)
[19:11] <dacs> howdy folks , i am currently running 10.10 " i know don't laugh at me :)" i did little search on how to upgrade from 10.10 to 13.04 and that yield 'do-release upgrade' command what do you guys suggest
[19:12] <Halite> ~.~
[19:12] <DJones> !eolupgrade | dacs
[19:13] <Halite> do-release upgrade then. On my first try at Ubuntu I didn't know how to shutdown and had to ask for a command to shut down.
[19:13] <bekks> dacs: Thats the command to use. You have to update to 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04
[19:13] <bekks> dacs: A clean reinstall will be much faster.
[19:13] <Halite> he's running 10.10
[19:13] <bekks> Halite: I know.
[19:13] <DJones> dacs: Your other option would be a fresh install of either 12.04 for LTS or 13.04 as latest
[19:13] <Lizards|Work> it'd take roughly a day to do all those updates
[19:13] <OerHeks> dacs 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 lts etc
[19:14] <werxxx> I can not connect my phone
[19:14] <Halite> ~.~ well my question's gone down the drain again
[19:15] <explodes> First time settings up NFS to start on boot. editing /etc/fstab with "10.1.11.121:/video /stuff/media/jason-nfs/video nfs rw,hard,intr,auto,nolock 0 0"
[19:15] <explodes> sudo mount -a doesn't mount the folder, dmesg tells me nothing
[19:15] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Hey, guys... None of the three things you suggested worked. Every time it said failed.
[19:15] <bekks> explodes: Add "_netdev" to the mount options.
[19:16] <dacs> thank you folks for all the tips. i guess yeah it will take me a whole day to go through it step-by-step hoping that all goes smooth "which never happens at this end. i think am going to just do a fresh install.
[19:16] <explodes> bekks: Still nothing
[19:16] <explodes> la
[19:17] <werxxx> Lol
[19:18] <dacs> so how would one go about backing up a system like mine. i mean pkgs ,setting and few downloads i have
[19:18] <macrobat> oh, ubuntuforums is down
[19:18] <dacs> the whole hdd is 160GB so thats not a biggy
[19:18] <macrobat> dacs: back up /etc do you have /home on its own partition?
[19:18] <DeltaHeavy> macrobat: Change your password, the hashing algo they used is so weak they might as well have stored your passwords in plain text.
[19:18] <dacs> macrobat: yeah, under maintenance
[19:19] <macrobat> backups are a good thing to do :D
[19:19] <dacs> macrobat: but google offer a great feature "chached"
[19:20] <dacs> macrobat: thats how i got to my info
[19:20] <dacs> heheheh
[19:21] <dacs> macrobat: no i don't have '/home on its own partition !
[19:21] <SunStar> is it possible to bind keyboard shortcuts to buttons on a game controller? (AKA why cant i use my XBOX controller as an HID?)
[19:21] <goddard> what is the calender applet called in unity?
[19:21]  * dacs light bulb!!! macrobat that is not a bad idea to have /home on its own partition
[19:22] <dacs> i could 've avoid all this headache now if i had it partition separately!
[19:22] <macrobat> yes, makes maintenance easier
[19:23] <SunStar> dacs, yes. at least you know from now on.
[19:23] <trism> goddard: indicator-datetime ?
[19:23] <dacs> SunStar: lesson learned
[19:24] <dacs> which tool should i use to backup
[19:24] <macrobat> how much is recommended for a root partition these days? more than 30G?
[19:25] <SunStar> ^^ especially when you dont know how the box will be used
[19:25] <jpds> macrobat: /     6.3G    3.7G  2.4G   61% /
[19:25] <k1l> macrobat: / without /home is 10-20GB for a regular desktop
[19:25] <jpds> macrobat: Though I have /var on a separate partition using 2GB.
[19:25] <macrobat> oh, not more. good
[19:25] <Lizards|Work> can be less if you're running a headless server
[19:26] <k1l> macrobat: depends on how much you install etc. etc. you can get under 5GB if yuo want, but if you have plenty of space go with something from 10-20
[19:26] <SunStar> i was told not to put var on its own drive (dont know why beyond messing with grep)
[19:26] <ihre> ./dev/mapper/vg00-root 9.9G 2.0G 7.4G 22% -> headless
[19:27] <raub> SunStar: what I found out is that if you put var on its own partition at install time you are ok. Changing it later may be exciting
[19:28] <dacs> is there a guide on how to setup these partition properly
[19:28] <SunStar> first time i tried out ubuntu i maxed out my 24GB root partition cuz i had a bit too much fun with software center)
[19:28] <ihre> dacs, manual partitioning, or using the Ubuntu installer?
[19:29] <dacs> cool , thank you ihre
[19:29] <dacs> i never thought that 10.10 doesn't have backup on it
[19:29] <dacs> ;)
[19:29] <dacs> in 12.10 i just type backup and pooff there it is
[19:30] <ihre> lol dacs I havent helped you in any way I believe
[19:30] <ihre> I was asking if you need a guide on manual partitioning (fdisk/parted/w/e) or using the Ubuntu installer ?
[19:31] <werxxx> Tell me about it
[19:31] <dacs> ihre: heheheh , manual partition guide will be good
[19:31] <Lunar_Lander> hi, is it OK to ask a question about the forum getting hacked here?
[19:31] <Lunar_Lander> I just read the e-mail
[19:31] <DJones> Lunar_Lander: I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuforums
[19:32] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks!
[19:32] <SunStar> dacs,  20GB "/", SWAP that is big enough to fit all the data getting dumped from ur RAM when going to sleep, and the rest to /home
[19:32] <Lizards|Work> swap should be 2x RAM
[19:33] <SunStar> well i never have a swap partition unless its a low end box
[19:33] <goddard> trism: is it?
[19:33] <rantic> Lizards|Work: Maybe in 2002, I'm not prepared to have 32gb of swap :p
[19:33] <[Raiden]> )
[19:33] <goddard> trism: i have the clock in the right hand corner but not calender when i click it
[19:33] <reisio> these days swap should lean more towards equivalent to ram
[19:34] <dacs> backup - how?
[19:34] <Lizards|Work> rantic, why not, i do =p
[19:34] <reisio> dacs: I like rdiff-backup
[19:34] <rantic> It just seems like overkill, it made sense 5-7 years back.
[19:34] <werxxx> How to use swap
[19:34] <Lizards|Work> prolly get away with 1.5x RAM
[19:34] <SunStar> doont
[19:34] <reisio> rantic: long time ago
[19:34] <masterkiller2000> i just set up ubuntu on my 64 bit laptop on i get a error say that ubuntu is unable to find a medium containing live file system. how do I fix this?
[19:34] <reisio> werxxx: as an end user you don't have to do much, the OS uses it
[19:34] <rantic> This is of course a completely subjective opinion and would change entirely on someones usage, I'm talking about the average user.
[19:34] <SunStar> the best way to use SWAP is not to use it
[19:35] <reisio> rantic: well, not completely
[19:35] <rantic> reisio: Oh?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> werxxx, The OS uses swap you can make a swap in an install or with a partitioner, and you can control the swappiness.
[19:35] <werxxx> Thx
[19:36] <trism> goddard: can I see a screenshot?
[19:36] <reisio> Ubuntu will install with swap setup by default
[19:36] <Lizards|Work> ^^^ i don't think wubi installs did
[19:36] <rantic> man I would love the hud with fluxbox or openbox..
[19:36] <reisio> Lizards|Work: thinking is overrated
[19:36] <trism> goddard: although in the options there is an option to disable the calendar, have you checked that?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> Lizards|Work, Swap can be a casper-rw file rather that normal, not sure on a wubi though.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> than*
[19:38] <goddard> trism: ya thats all it was i unchecked it for some reason
[19:39] <ihre> dacs, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19350.html is actually a pretty good write up on basic fdisk partitioning
[19:40] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, swap can be casper-rw file? Didn't get it. AFAIK, casper-rw stores changes while swap is volatile.
[19:40] <dacs> ihre: thank you , could you please point me to a good backup solution
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, You can have a file that even exspands per need.
[19:41] <dlpenguinlover> Does anyone here have any experience with bazaar repos??
[19:41] <ihre> well, I'm using BackupPC at home, for multiple hosts like my nas, desktop, router & whatnot
[19:41] <mmercer> has anyone else had issues getting ls --color=auto working on ubuntu server-12.04
[19:41] <Pici> dlpenguinlover: Your question would likely be more on-topic for #bzr
[19:42] <mmercer> i can run byobu (which I am), and even the curses is all in color, but ls --color=auto does *not* output color.  current TERM is set to screen (as is default for byobu)... using iterm2 on osx (which is fully compliant with all the normal term profiles)
[19:42] <mmercer> ubuntu is the only os i have this issue with, and its downright aggrevating
[19:42] <dlpenguinlover> Pici: okay thank you :)
[19:43] <Radiant> hey guys
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, It may not be called a casper-rw as a internal, I think it is though, but I have used this for fun. http://pqxx.org/development/swapspace/
[19:43] <Radiant> does anyone know how to set up laptop for runninig Dota 2 on Steam?
[19:43] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, taking a look...
[19:43] <chunkyhead> while setting up port forwarding for ssh what should be the local ip add??
[19:44] <Radiant> i installed bumblebee,p rimus and nvidia experimental drivers
[19:44] <Radiant> but it still doensn't work well
[19:44] <Kitt3n> I don't know if this is the proper place for asking this, but when I try to run Half-Life 2 with AMD (from amd.com) drivers this happens after a few minutes http://79.160.126.77/stupid.jpg http://79.160.126.77/stupid2.jpg
[19:44] <ihre> dacs, you could have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/backup-shellscripts.html, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC
[19:45] <werxxx> Lol
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, On a live cd with persistence it is a file, and I have made casper-rw partitions on a usb to exceed the 4 gig limit as well, but you know all this already I suspect. ;)
[19:45] <Kitt3n> Radiant, Linux and Nvidia doesn't mix well, as far as I know. What doesn't "work well"?
[19:45] <bekks> Kitt3n: Linux and Nvidia works perfect here for about 10 years now.
[19:46] <werxxx> Other video cards
[19:46] <checoimg> Hi everyone
[19:46] <Kitt3n> bekks, it tends to work great when it first starts to work, yah
[19:46] <werxxx> Hello
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, File may not be the technical syntax though, lol, not sure the actual.
[19:47] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, I have an 8gb flash drive with that kind of setup (700 MB FAT32 for LIVE, 4+GB ext3 for casper-rw, rest NTFS) ;)
[19:47] <checoimg> I have some duplicates in the repositories when I do apt-get update
[19:47] <bekks> Kitt3n: You are the first one I met who isnt happy with Nvidia and Linux.
[19:47] <bekks> checoimg: Then remove the duplicates from your sources.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Somnds like what I have done as well.
[19:47] <thiebaude> checoimg, did you check your software sources?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Sounds*
[19:48] <checoimg> Yes I don;t see duplicates just the UBuntu SDK team
[19:48] <varunendra> YeahRight, cuz that 4gb limit sucks ;)
[19:48] <checoimg> And UBUntu edgers something
[19:48] <checoimg> Qt5 Edgers
[19:48] <skulltip> I want to create a simple 2d game and distribute the binary/data, with little emphasis on the source if at all. what is recommended, freebasic? gambas3? python? SDL or sfml? What i want is for example an arch linux user to pick up the tar.gz unzip and play it. Or a .deb would be ok, gambas3 can create .deb files.
[19:48] <varunendra> YeahRight, sorry, didn't mean to call you ;)
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> checoimg, Look in etc/apt/sources.list.d for ppa's
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> skulltip  what distro are you in now?
[19:49] <dacs> ihre: well since my 10.10 is EOL i can't download any pkg from repo so i will copy my files manually
[19:49] <skulltip> 12.04
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> dacs, You see the eol info from the bot yest?
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> yet*
[19:50] <ihre> dacs, with that script your release shouldnt matter
[19:52] <ghabit> Hello. After installing ubuntu bootup logo looks stretched. How to fix it?
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> skulltip, why not some html5/canvas stuff?
[19:53] <werxxx> Linux it is free os or trial
[19:53] <Fly-Man-> Morning fellow Ubuntu people
[19:53] <werxxx> Payment
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> skulltip  there's the channel ##Indie-Games, but it has only 10 people in it
[19:53] <chunkyhead> werxxx, os trial
[19:53] <Fly-Man-> Can anyone point me to a good solution why I am getting a destination not responding explanation ?
[19:53] <skulltip> brontosaurusrex - kind of want to stay around linux
[19:53] <skulltip> ty MonkeyDust
[19:54] <werxxx> Chukyhead oh my god
[19:55] <checoimg> I don't see duplicates there, HOw is it telling me that there is  ?
[19:56] <bassmasta420> can anyone help me out with an sftp and chroot problem?
[19:56] <bekks> bassmasta420: That would require you to tell us about the actual problem.
[19:56] <bassmasta420> I posted a question on ask ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/324039/chroot-sftp-not-able-to-login
[19:56] <DJones> werxxx: Pretty much most versions of Linux operating systems are free
[19:57] <dacs> ihre: now all what i want is a list off all installed pkgs
[19:57] <checoimg> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-security/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-security_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[19:58] <bassmasta420> since I added a ChrootDirectory command to my sshd_config I can't login anymore
[19:58] <ihre> dacs, dpkg -l, dpkg --get-selections
[19:58] <bekks> checoimg: Well, then remove the duplicate from your sources.
[19:58] <werxxx> Ok I go to work. Good bie everyone. Peace
[19:59] <checoimg> Bye
[19:59] <werxxx> Lol
[20:05] <Halite> I'm not sure if Ubuntu cannot detect Packard Bell's colour space requirements or if it is the hardware itself, but the colour profile I created in Color Settings assume the monitor output levels of green are slightly lower than all the others. This results in desirable effects sometimes - and undesirable ones other times. How do I control or fix my problem?
[20:05] <reisio> Halite: what's the problem by default?
[20:05] <Halite> reisio, I'm not entirely sure
[20:06] <reisio> ...
[20:06] <reisio> Halite: what's the problem as you perceive it by default?
[20:06] <Halite> oh....
[20:06] <Halite> reisio, dark greys appear a slight green tint.
[20:06] <reisio> and it's not just the monitor?
[20:06] <Halite> To be honest it is only just noticable
[20:07] <Halite> it is not the monitor
[20:07] <reisio> how do you know?
[20:07] <Halite> I went into Color Settings, checked colour profile, and the TRC was different for the green graph.
[20:08] <reisio> so you haven't tried a different monitor
[20:08] <Halite> I'm on a laptop, cmon guys!
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> Halite, Hold on let me get my Karnac hat.
[20:09] <Halite> I'm running a Packard Bell Dot S
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> hmm I sense a disturbance in the force
[20:10] <Halite> I dualboot Windows (the first OS) with Ubuntu (secondary) and the TRC's defects have recently spread into Windows!
[20:10] <reisio> Halite: you keep saying that as if it matters :)
[20:10] <Lizards|Work> ...
[20:10] <Lizards|Work> Halite, if it's happening regardless of OS, it's hardware
[20:10] <reisio> can you try another monitor?
[20:10] <Halite> unless the OS's setting spreads
[20:11] <reisio> so your first suspicion is magic? :)
[20:11] <Halite> I doubt it is hardware
[20:11] <Halite> nope
[20:11] <Lizards|Work> do you have an external monitoy
[20:11] <Lizards|Work> s/oy/yo
[20:11] <Halite> my first suspicion is TRC and Ubuntu's greed to override the correct setting Windows had. (Which is strange because it is usually the other way round.)
[20:12] <Lizards|Work> uh
[20:12] <Lizards|Work> no
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> Halite  windows settings have nothing to do with ubuntu settings, unless it's wubi
[20:12] <reisio> or hardware :p
[20:12] <SunStar> Halite, adjust the color profile, try loading a different color profile and check your driver's control panel to see what adjustments can be made there
[20:12] <Halite> MonkeyDust, surprise! It is wubi!
[20:13] <Halite> reisio, not hardware :p
[20:13] <reisio> Halite: yet to be determined :p
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> Halite  wubi is not a real installation, better get rid of it
[20:13] <Halite> SunStar, Ubuntu won't let me whatever I install
[20:13] <Halite> MonkeyDust, don't make me kick you in the chickens
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> Halite  try to behave, please
[20:13] <Halite> ok
[20:13] <Halite> ops:
[20:14] <ikonia> Halite: ?
[20:14] <Lizards|Work> Halite, can you boot a live distro and verify it's the hardware please
[20:14] <Halite> MonkeyDust, I'm behaving. I'm ill. I'm annoyed.
[20:14] <Halite> DON'T
[20:14] <Halite> MAKE
[20:14] <Halite> ME
[20:14] <Halite> BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRST
[20:14] <FloodBot1> Halite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> Halite  wubi is a windows application, hence the issue lies with windows
[20:14] <Lizards|Work> or use an external monitor and verify it's the hardware
[20:14] <ikonia> and now you're muted, lets get back to normal service
[20:14] <Lizards|Work> oh chanserv, never change
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> Halite  what Lizards|Work suggests, try a live cd or usb
[20:15] <SunStar> when and where would that kind of behavior ever be tolerated / acceptable?
[20:15] <Radiant> hey guys
[20:15] <Radiant> does anyone know how to set up laptop for runninig Dota 2 on Steam?
[20:15] <Radiant> i installed bumblebee, primus and nvidia experimental drivers
[20:15] <Radiant> but it still doensn't work well
[20:16] <Lizards|Work> buy a macbook pro
[20:16] <reisio> heh
[20:16] <Radiant> max resolution is 1024x768 and the framerate is pretty bad
[20:16] <Halite> ~.~
[20:16] <Radiant> nah, it works well on windows
[20:16] <Halite> let me finish
[20:17] <kalen> help question: Pulseaudio/Alsa: I just started getting some pops in my audio in Mint 15. I've tried reinstalling Alsa and Pulse, and I just noticed that when i use alsamixer, I can turn down some of the settings, but after a minute or two there is a pop and the levels are all reset to the defaults
[20:17] <reisio> sounds like a bug
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !mint | kalen
[20:17]  * reisio suspects pulse
[20:18] <kalen> aw
[20:18] <kalen> I figured there were more knowledgeable people in here
[20:18] <Lizards|Work> heh
[20:18] <Lizards|Work> i had that problem on my old pc, but this new beast has no such issues
[20:19] <kalen> I just replaced the motherboard, but it's been in for at least a week, and this issue just started yesterday
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> kalen, we done be only knowing the chaneeel rules.
[20:19] <kalen> plus no issue in Windows
[20:19] <dtcrshr> kalen: i had this issue on lmde, im using jack
[20:20] <dtcrshr> pulse and alsa get me crappy sound
[20:20] <dtcrshr> give jack a try
[20:20] <kalen> wilee-nilee: let's say it's ubuntu 13.04?
[20:20] <dtcrshr> jack and pulse-jack solves mostly of the routing and them
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> kalen  are you using mint? if yes, that's not supported here
[20:20] <kalen> MonkeyDust: ok thanks
[20:20] <kalen> dtcrshr: interesting I haven't tried it yet, thanks for the tip
[20:21] <skulltip> should i bother writing the game using GTK or QT as a GUI, or other?
[20:21] <dacs> ihre: got everything thank you for all the help
[20:21] <skulltip> i know there is some division with Unity and gnome
[20:22] <dtcrshr> kalen: jack is a pretty much advanced audio system. take that in mind when you begin trying it. If you have some dificulties please ask us on #jack
[20:22] <kalen> dtcrshr: will do
[20:22] <ihre> dacs, no problem !
[20:22] <dacs> ihre: one last question if i may, can i install from online
[20:23] <ihre> dacs, install what from online?
[20:23] <dacs> that is installing 13.04 streaming from online
[20:23] <ihre> you mean on a remote host ?
[20:23] <macrobat> install from online? streaming?
[20:23] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Need help. Trying to install Ubuntu on my Windows 8 (in place of, preferably). Using USB, CD, or booting ISO from desktop, it says that boot failed. That's the whole message, boot failed. Help?
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | PuffTheMagic
[20:24] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I did.
[20:24] <dacs> what is the right phrase... i don't want to download and install from cd. i am asking if there is a way that i can install 13.04 direct from the web
[20:24] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Have anything helpful?
[20:24] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I already disabled the Secureboot. That was the first thing I did.
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> PuffTheMagicDrag, You can't run a wubi from W8, if that is your goal here.
[20:24] <ihre> dacs, yea, use the minimal iso. it pulls everything you want from the web
[20:24] <Lizards|Work> he's playing coy about UEFI and needing to disable it
[20:24] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227563/dual-boot-win-8-fail-to-boot-ubuntu
[20:25] <kalen> PuffTheMagicDrag: Make sure you are booting the USB/DVD/etc in EFI mode
[20:25] <Lizards|Work> s/it/secure boot
[20:25] <dacs> ihre: but that means i will have to burn a cd/usb and boot from it
[20:25] <macrobat> cds are cheap
[20:25] <Lizards|Work> afaik there is no 'web installer'
[20:25] <PuffTheMagicDrag> What is EFI mode? I'm just doing this how the directions say....
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | PuffTheMagic
[20:25] <dacs> not that i am just laxy
[20:25] <ihre> dacs, you manually configure the packages you'd like to install with the minimal iso & yeah you would have to make a bootable iso/cd
[20:26] <PuffTheMagicDrag> wilee-nilee, ubottu, thank you, you have certainly shown me the error of my ways in asking questions.
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> PuffTheMagicDrag, WE cannot read your mind kill the drama.
[20:26] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Is there another #ubuntu on a different server? I'd be happy to spare you further "drama".
[20:26] <ihre> but youre planning to update from 10.10 to 13.04, dacs?
[20:26] <ashipa> Hello
[20:26] <dacs> ihre: no i decided to do a fresh install
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> PuffTheMagic, And I'm happy to ignore you.
[20:27] <bassmasta420> I need help setting up a chroot directory for sftp users.. can anyone help?
[20:27] <Lizards|Work> PuffTheMagicDrag, http://google.com#how+to+boot+EFI
[20:28] <ihre> dacs, you dont have any usb sticks around? 64mb would be enough for the minimal iso
[20:28] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Ah, I see what EFI is. I'm not looking to partition.
[20:28] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I don't want Windows 8 at all.
[20:28] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: efi is the new bios.
[20:28] <Arkhana> Hello everybody! I just got the message: etc/default/plptools Access Denied
[20:28] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: right, the question is merely whether you will run into trouble if you fully remove Windows 8
[20:28] <Arkhana> But I was root!
[20:29] <reisio> well, UEFI is the new version of EFI, which will probably also fail :p
[20:29] <dacs> ihre: that is cool , i am downloading the iso now and will burn it to a cd , it is just that i was working a night shift and i am tired ...i will head to bed and will continue tomorrow
[20:29] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I was in UEFI. Did everything I was supposed to.
[20:29] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: with secureboot etc. so you might want to take a look at it. what about the link i gave you. did you take a look at it?
[20:29] <dacs> good night and i will update you later with the result
[20:29] <ihre> good luck dacs
[20:29] <dacs> again thank you for all your help and thank you everyone that helped me today
[20:29] <PuffTheMagicDrag> yes, I was in the UEFI, as per your reference the first time, thank you. Disabled secureboot and everythign else I was supposed to.
[20:29] <Arkhana> K1l: in fact, its UEFI and not EFI
[20:30] <dacs> you guys always ROCK!!!!
[20:30] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Unfortunately, I don't have a specific error message, it's just telling me it failed.
[20:30] <Arkhana> But that doesn't matter :D
[20:30] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Here's the exact message: <The selected boot device failed. Press enter to continue.> That's after all the EUFI stuff is disabled.
[20:30] <Lizards|Work> none of that matters, what matters is our plan
[20:31] <Arkhana> Indeed
[20:33] <Arkhana> Actually kinda weird that a system that's over 30 years had been kicked away
[20:33] <Lizards|Work> age does not imply value
[20:34] <LuckySMack> i am trying to upgrade an ubuntu 12.10 server to 13.04 using the command 'do-release-upgrade' but I get this error: http://pastebin.com/DjMLdZvC
[20:34] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Is there no way to simply format my entire computer, and install Ubuntu?
[20:34] <Arkhana> I agree, but it's been used so very loooooooong
[20:34] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I really have 0 interest in this Windows Hate.
[20:34] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: sounds like your having difficulty with booting, not installation per se :)
[20:34] <reisio> like you're*
[20:35] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Quite possibly.
[20:35] <reisio> haven't really been paying attention, what happened again?
[20:35] <Lizards|Work> PuffTheMagicDrag, create a bootable installation media, disable secureboot, boot the installation media, pew pew pew pew
[20:35] <kalen> pew pew
[20:35] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Lizards|Work, did that when you guys suggested it. Now that all that is done, it gives me this: <The selected boot device failed. Press enter to continue.>
[20:36] <PuffTheMagicDrag> That's it. No more information that that.
[20:36] <Lizards|Work> is the device bootable?
[20:36] <Lizards|Work> the cd/usb?
[20:36] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Yes, both.
[20:36] <PuffTheMagicDrag> And I've tried both.
[20:36] <raven> xubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" - how to solve that?
[20:36] <Arkhana> Puff: Why don't disable Secure boot?
[20:37] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: what's the boot device?
[20:37] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Arkhana, I swear, I promise to you, as I have said, it is disabled. It doesn't get any more disabled. It SAYS it's disabled, at least, now that I've disabled it.
[20:38] <Lizards|Work> have you verified that the device is indeed bootable?
[20:38] <reisio> ...
[20:38] <PuffTheMagicDrag> reisio, I've tried both CD and USB. Also, from the desktop. Lizards|Work, I figured I couldn't have done it wrong more than twice...
[20:38] <PuffTheMagicDrag> But I might have??
[20:38] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I've never done this.
[20:38] <PuffTheMagicDrag> How do I check?
[20:38] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: k, you probably have to go into the UEFI stuff and tweak your boot prefs, then
[20:38] <Lizards|Work> boot from it on another system
[20:38] <Lizards|Work> or in a virtual machine
[20:39] <PuffTheMagicDrag> If I boot from it on a different laptop, can I cancel out before it does anything important?
[20:39] <Lizards|Work> yes
[20:39] <Lizards|Work> always
[20:39] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Cool... Good idea. Will try, thank you.
[20:39] <chunkyhead> im unable to configure my machine for a successful ssh connection. please help
[20:40] <isaacbw> when running hwinfo --framebuffer I get a dbus error like "hal.1: read hal dataprocess 4050: arguments to dbus_move_error() were incorrect" is that a bug?
[20:40] <mma> hello everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu server 12.04. Whenever I boot it up it tells me that there are 5 packages can be updated, 2 of them are security updates, but when I "apt-get upgrade" I get "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded."
[20:40] <ubuntivity> hello everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu server 12.04. Whenever I boot it up it tells me that there are 5 packages can be updated, 2 of them are security updates, but when I "apt-get upgrade" I get "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded."
[20:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> ...
[20:40] <DJones> !repeat | ubuntivity
[20:41] <ubuntivity> Sorry DJones, client problem!
[20:41] <macrobat> raven: could you go a bit more into detail?
[20:41] <macrobat> chunkyhead: more detail, please
[20:41] <Lizards|Work> ubuntivity, did you try sudo apt-get upgrade?
[20:42] <ubuntivity> yes I tried it. I get a message telling me that two packages have been kept back
[20:42] <Arkhana> Ubuntivity: Did you brutely power-off your PC at the latest update?
[20:42] <caersith> ubuntuvity: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:42] <chunkyhead> macrobat,  i ssh onto grex basically to test my own ssh connection. i so ssh username@ipadd, it says connection timed out. i've port forwarded port 22 to localip i got from ifconfig
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, Probably a kernel run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:42] <DJones> ubuntivity: I had the same issue on 12.04 server, I had to use dist-upgrade to get the updates which were kernel updates
[20:42] <zykotic10> caersith: +1 for ubuntivity reply
[20:42] <ubuntivity> I don't usually do that Arkhana, but I might got a power-off (not sure though)
[20:42] <raven> macrobat, i load a thightvnc session on a remote xubuntu machine and get that error
[20:43] <trism> isaacbw: bug 775542
[20:43] <ihre> ubuntivity, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[20:43] <ubuntivity> Won't that upgrade the entire distro??
[20:43] <Arkhana> Ubuntivity: That messed up my updates one time
[20:43] <zykotic10> !dist-upgrade > ubuntivity
[20:43] <Arkhana> I meant about poweroff
[20:43] <k1l> dist-upgrade will not make it from 12.04 to 12.10
[20:44] <macrobat> LuckySMack: maybe this helps? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1178245
[20:44] <axgb> hi
[20:44] <zykotic10> ubuntivity: dist-upgrade is the same as full-upgrade (in aptitude)
[20:44] <axgb> How to I install Ubuntu Tablet Edition on my samsung tablet?
[20:44] <macrobat> I don't know vnc :D
[20:44] <DJones> !tablet | axgb
[20:44] <ubuntivity> and what is the way to update the entire distro release in apt-get??
[20:44] <zykotic10> !upgrade | ubuntivity
[20:45] <k1l> ubuntivity: its do-release-upgrade not apt-get
[20:45] <BluesKaj> ubuntivity, update as in ?
[20:45] <isaacbw> yea, damn, looks like a dependency issue
[20:45] <isaacbw> installing hal by hand fixed the error
[20:45] <axgb> Can I just install it on my tablet?
[20:45] <ubuntivity> Are you assuring me that dist-upgrade WON'T upgrade my distro?
[20:45] <caersith> ubuntivity: apt-get dist-upgrade -s to simulate the upgrade
[20:45] <LuckySMack> anyone know how I can fix this trying to update my server? http://pastebin.com/DjMLdZvC
[20:45] <ubuntivity> Good advice caersith :)
[20:45] <DJones> axgb: See ubottu's info, please ask in #ubuntu-touch
[20:45] <k1l> ubuntivity: please read the bots messages if you dont believe us
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> axgb, There is no tablet version, do you mean ubuntu-touch?
[20:45] <axgb> ok
[20:45] <caersith> np
[20:46] <Arkhana> Ubuntivity: Why not upgrading?
[20:46] <ubuntivity> I believe you, but I don't believe the bots :P
[20:46] <macrobat> LuckySMack: did you check the link I gave you? :D
[20:46] <ubuntivity> Arkhana: I want to remain on the LTS version
[20:46] <BluesKaj> ubuntivity, dist-upgrade upgrades installed packages and kernels, not the release
[20:46] <axgb> yes, its on the ubuntu website
[20:47] <LuckySMack> macrobat: ah didnt see it. looking. thanks.
[20:47] <ubuntivity> so what is different between "dist-upgrade" and "upgrade"
[20:47] <Arkhana> Mkay
[20:47] <Dr_willis> dist  upgrade is more intensive
[20:48] <ubuntivity> * what is the difference between "dist-upgrade" and "upgrade"?
[20:48] <chunkyhead> macrobat, ?
[20:48] <maslowbeer> hello. I broke my 13.04 on my laptop when trying to install gnome - mostly purged and got everything working again, but it's not detecting the second display DPMI settings. Is there a way to force a model number for the second display so I can get a decent resolution?
[20:48] <macrobat> chunkyhead: sorry, maybe someone else knows better
[20:49] <chunkyhead> guys help. i ssh onto grex basically to test my own ssh connection. i so ssh username@ipadd, it says connection timed out. i've port forwarded port 22 to localip i got from ifconfig.
[20:49] <DJones> ubuntivity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[20:49] <Arkhana> Chunkyhead: don't know too. Why not trying the iRC channel about SSH?
[20:49] <ubuntivity> Thanks DJones
[20:50] <chunkyhead> Arkhana, no one online lol
[20:51] <LuckySMack> macrobat: yea figures. it doesnt look like theres a way around it yet. not that I see at least.
[20:51] <ikonia> chunkyhead: are you trying to ssh to an ipad ?
[20:51] <axgb> Is ubuntu touch this? http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet
[20:51] <chunkyhead> ikonia, pc with ubuntu
[20:51] <Arkhana> Chunlyhead: What's your SSH prog?
[20:51] <macrobat> LuckySMack: and if you install python-apt?
[20:51] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so have you tested the ssh connection locally
[20:51] <chunkyhead> ikonia, how do i do that
[20:51] <ikonia> chunkyhead: it sounds like your port forwarding is just wrong
[20:52] <ikonia> chunkyhead: connect to the ubuntu machine on the local lan, and/or then do "ssh localhost" and see if it responds
[20:52] <pkkm> does Ubuntu 13.04 have SELinux enabled by default?
[20:52] <ikonia> pkkm: no
[20:52] <pkkm> ikonia: thanks.
[20:52] <chunkyhead> ikonia, i dont have another local machine
[20:52] <ikonia> pkkm: it uses apparmor
[20:52] <Lizards|Work> SELinux
[20:52] <ikonia> chunkyhead: ok, then plug a monitor into the machine and do "ssh localhost" to confirm it's listening
[20:52] <Arkhana> Chunkyhead: Seems you got help in the end :D
[20:52] <Lizards|Work> every time SELinux is said, a kitten goes through a meatgrinder
[20:53] <reisio> nasty
[20:53] <chunkyhead> ikonia, operating on another log in tty should work?
[20:53] <ikonia> chunkyhead: just use the one your using now
[20:53] <ikonia> chunkyhead: just do "ssh localhost" in a terminal
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> Lizards|Work, congrats you continues off topic comments get an ignore
[20:54] <chunkyhead> ikonia, connection refused
[20:54] <ikonia> chunkyhead: ok, so sshd is not running
[20:54] <LuckySMack> macrobat: python-apt is already installed. looking online i may have found a fix. trying it.
[20:54] <ikonia> chunkyhead: that is the first problem to resolve
[20:54] <Lizards|Work> was that even english?
[20:54] <ikonia> Lizards|Work: lets just keep to ubuntu support please
[20:54] <Lizards|Work> noted
[20:54] <ikonia> without the additional coments (please)
[20:54] <ikonia> thanks
[20:55] <Arkhana> LizardsWork: I have always thought: What if a squirrel can't come out a tree fast enough and gets killed by a tree shredder
[20:55] <Arkhana> I guess you mean that
[20:55] <ikonia> I suspect we drop that example now please.
[20:56] <Arkhana> Sounds like a very good idea
[20:56] <LuckySMack> ok I think I got it working.
[20:56] <ubuntivity> Guys, can I play audio files on Ubuntu Server?
[20:57] <Dr_willis> ubuntivity,  if you got speakers.. sure.
[20:57] <Pessimist> Can someone help me resolve a problem with these broken packages? http://pastebin.com/TMXnKj8A
[20:57] <ubuntivity> How, Dr_willis ?
[20:57] <Dr_willis> ubuntivity,  theres numerous console based audio player apps in the repos
[20:57] <Arkhana> Mp3blaster
[20:57] <Dr_willis> !info mpg123
[20:57] <Arkhana> Just an example
[20:58] <ikonia> Pessimist: looks like you've got some unstable/ppa's setup
[20:58] <rypervenche> Pessimist: PPAs do not play well with Ubuntu.
[20:58] <ihre> ncmpcpp + mpd = command line music <3
[20:58] <ikonia> PPA's can work just fine
[20:58] <ikonia> it depends on who is maintaining them
[20:58] <rypervenche> Exactly ~_^
[20:58] <Pessimist> ikonia, rypervenche, yep I had some PPAs but I've removed them. Just need to fix this issue
[20:58] <ikonia> Pessimist: you'll have to undo everything they have installed
[20:58] <ubuntivity> should aplay work, too?
[20:58] <rypervenche> Pessimist: How did you remove them?
[20:58] <Dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[20:58] <Arkhana> Ihre: that's <3 for sure
[20:59] <Dr_willis> ubuntivity,  try it and see.
[20:59] <chunkyhead> ikonia, got the portforwarding fixed. still cant use ssh from grex to my computer
[20:59] <ikonia> Pessimist: removing the repo won't do it, you need to undo everything they have installed, including dependencies
[20:59] <Dr_willis> !info aplay
[20:59] <Dr_willis> !find aplay
[20:59] <ikonia> chunkyhead: can you do "ssh localhost" on the ssh server ?
[20:59] <chunkyhead> i should be running "ssh username@ip" right? ikonia
[20:59] <chunkyhead> ikonia, yeah
[20:59] <ikonia> chunkyhead: ok that's not portwarding
[20:59] <ikonia> chunkyhead: that's just making sure the daemon is listening
[20:59] <Lizards|Work> ssh -l user host
[20:59] <StArcher> Hi All, I have a quick question about nautilus and dconf, can anyone help/point me in the right direction?
[20:59] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so from the client you can do "ssh username@ipaddres"
[21:00] <Pessimist> ikonia, rypervenche, so I basically should enable them again and use ppa-purge on them?
[21:00] <ubuntivity> I'll try mpg123 and see
[21:00] <rypervenche> Pessimist: Yes, that would be the best way.
[21:01] <chunkyhead> ikonia, oh my bad. i thought that was port forwarding. anyways ssh username@ip gives me connection timed out from client
[21:01] <trism> StArcher: what is the question?
[21:01] <Lizards|Work> ping host
[21:02] <chunkyhead> Lizards|Work, ping works fine
[21:03] <Dr_willis> can you ssh to localhost on the remote server? (ssh to itself?)
[21:03] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Lizards|Work, you nailed it. The answer was indeed that simple. I checked on a third device, it was not bootable, downloaded a different program to make a bootable one from. Thank you! Also, reisio, thank you, k1l, thank you,
[21:03] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Sorry I'm so computer ignorant ;)
[21:03] <Lizards|Work> grats PuffTheMagicDrag
[21:03] <Lizards|Work> no worries, it's happened to us all at least once
[21:03] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Well, hold off on the grats. It's installing now, but I'm sure I can break it somehow.
[21:04] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, ikonia http://screencloud.net/v/1saI
[21:04] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I'll likely be asking you guys again in just a few minutes...
[21:04] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Actually, Lizards|Work, I have another question already. Does this mean Windows Hate is gone forever? Have I wiped it? If not, how DO I wipe it completely?
[21:04] <Lizards|Work> if you're using the entire volume, it's being overwritten
[21:04] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  a simple 'yes i can ssh to local host' works..  would have been sufficient.
[21:05] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  if pc1 can ping pc2 but not ssh to it.. and pc2 is running ssh (local host ssh test worked)  then that points to a firewall issue. or other network blockages
[21:05] <chunkyhead> yes i can ssh to localhost :P i said that earlier, i assumed u had seen and wanted screenie
[21:05] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, ^
[21:05] <PuffTheMagicDrag> How do I tell it to use the entire volume?
[21:06] <PuffTheMagicDrag> As of yet, I haven't seen any such thing.
[21:06] <Lizards|Work> i'm not fluent with the 13.04 installer
[21:06] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, any suggestions on how to detect those blockades
[21:06] <PuffTheMagicDrag> So it will be in the installer somewhere? I didn't miss it already?
[21:06] <chunkyhead> PuffTheMagicDrag, u just remove every partition there
[21:06] <Lizards|Work> it should ask where you want it installed or what kind of installation you want it to be
[21:06] <PuffTheMagicDrag> chunkyhead, is that something I can do after installation?
[21:07] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Nevermind, they made it stupid-friendly ;)
[21:07] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I got this... CLICK :D
[21:07] <chunkyhead> that's something to do during installation PuffTheMagicDrag
[21:07] <syn-ack> You know, I miss the days of fdisk, sometimes.
[21:07] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: gj
[21:07] <chunkyhead> use gparted for after installation PuffTheMagicDrag
[21:07] <syn-ack> Just an observation.
[21:08] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Bye bye, Windows 8 :D
[21:08] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Never again shall Bill Gates extend his insidious control over me...
[21:08] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Muahahahah!!!
[21:08] <reisio> :p
[21:09] <syn-ack> PuffTheMagicDrag: Sure he will. You'll need skype and MSCoreFonts. :D
[21:09] <ihre> chunkyhead, check if your remote host blocks port 22 in the firewall, with something like sudo iptables -nL | grep 22 in a terminal, or run a portscan with nmap -Pn <sshserverip> from another host
[21:09] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Hah, I have no need for Skype.
[21:09] <PuffTheMagicDrag> And who types? Lame :D
[21:09] <syn-ack> I do.
[21:09] <Lizards|Work> nak
[21:11] <metacode> Hey guys, I am having a problem with my ubuntu 13.04. Can I ask for a solution here?
[21:11] <Lizards|Work> you can ask
[21:11] <rantic> metacode: No!
[21:11] <rantic> metacode: Of course
[21:12] <metacode> @rantic so where should I ask it?
[21:12] <ubuntivity> Guys, I have an old laptop with a broken screen, I have ubuntu server installed on it. I need it to have Video output to the external monitor by default. Is that possible?
[21:12] <rantic> metacode: I was being sarcastic, this is exactly where you should ask your question
[21:12] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Linux dance!! 0-\-<
[21:12] <Seth_> Hello guys, I'm having a bit of trouble with ubuntu. I was wondering if I could get some help
[21:12] <PuffTheMagicDrag> 0-/-<
[21:13] <Pessimist> Seth_, just ask
[21:13] <PuffTheMagicDrag> 0|-<
[21:13] <xangua> !ot | PuffTheMagic
[21:14] <metacode> Oh ok :P Ok so I can't get Bluetooth to work on my ubuntu 13.04. The weird thing is that it works when I use a DVD and choose 'try ubuntu'. But it doesn't work on the installed one
[21:14] <Seth_> So, I had Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a bootable flash drive
[21:14] <Seth_> I messed around with it, and decided I liked it
[21:14] <Seth_> I went to install it, and decided to partition it
[21:14] <Pessimist> !oneline | Seth_
[21:14] <Seth_> with windows 7
[21:14] <auronandace> !enter
[21:15] <Seth_> Installation was complete, and it told me i needed to restart the computer, so that my changes could be saved and what not
[21:15] <ubuntivity> Is it possible to turn off laptop screen once the system boots?
[21:16] <PuffTheMagicDrag> ... I think MAGIC is even more likely than that.
[21:16] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Wrong chat, sorry.
[21:17] <Seth_> Now, I have no option to boot ubuntu
[21:17] <metacode> I can't get Bluetooth to work on my ubuntu 13.04. The weird thing is that it works when I use a DVD and choose 'try ubuntu'. But it doesn't work on the installed one.
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> Seth_, Do you have more than one HD?
[21:17] <ubuntivity> !repeat | metacode
[21:17] <Lizards|Work> Seth_, are you sure you selected the correct disk for installation?
[21:18] <Seth_> I only have one harddrive
[21:18] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Anyone here have a recommended site or book they like to brush up on using Ubuntu very quickly? I don't mean a forum or something like that, I don't have specific questions and I'm not looking for specific answers. I'm just wondering if anyone has a tutorial site they like to send noobies to, who want to cut some time off their learning curve.
[21:18] <Lizards|Work> metacode, try enabling proprietary sources in software sources and updating. maybe your driver isn't the best option available
[21:18] <kalen> PuffTheMagicDrag: Ubuntu Made Easy is supposed to be pretty good. I think it was just updated not too long ago
[21:18] <robotti> is it so that bluetooth keyboard pairing is totally broken?
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Seth_, On the live cd run this app the bootinfo summary only, and post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:19] <Pessimist> How do you remove unity and all of it's related applications? (except lightdm)
[21:19] <kalen> PuffTheMagicDrag: http://nostarch.com/ubuntumadeeasy
[21:19] <xok> hello all...
[21:19] <genii> ubuntivity: You could try something like putting xset dpms force standby    ..in /etc/rc.local
[21:19] <xok> I have postfix on the ubuntu system and the logs are completely empty...
[21:19] <Seth_> okay, one moment
[21:19] <xok> can anyone help find where are they stored?..
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, Unity is a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3, what is your goal here?
[21:20] <zykotic10> Pessimist: my suggestion... don't bother.  just install whatever DE you want, and leaving Unity.  Breaking metapackages is a pain.  If you really wanted, start from mini, and don't install any of the *-desktop metapackages.
[21:20] <metacode> I did try a few threads but none of them worked. I also tried using some other driver but stil no luck. But if the driver was incompatible then why would it work in 'try ubuntu' mode?
[21:20] <evillase> would anyone be able to help with a compile error I receive on a UML linux kernel http://hastebin.com/rowuferigi.vbs
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> +1 for zykotic10
[21:21] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Oh yeah, Kalen ;) Forgot to thank you earlier, too. Thank you.
[21:21] <ubuntivity> genii: will that cause a system-standby?
[21:21] <kalen> PuffTheMagicDrag: no worries
[21:21] <ubuntivity> I want the computer to keep running, only the screen off to save power
[21:22] <Lizards|Work> metacode, just like the nvidia graphics driver work in try ubuntu but on reboot you're at a black screen because linux-source and linux-headers-generic weren't available to compile the nvidia driver
[21:22] <genii> ubuntivity: That will c ause the monitor to be in standby. So it will be off until someone uses something at the keyboard or uses the mouse/trackpad
[21:22] <xok> I have a postfix running on Ubuntu and it doesn't log in /var/log/mail.log
[21:22] <sim590> Hi. When I list /dev, I get a device called 'sdb' with no partitions (no sdb1, sdb2, ...) and there is not any USB devices connected.. The only device connected and that should be shown is my hard drive sda.. what's going on? How can I have more info about sdb? I did fdisk /dev/sdb, but it failed
[21:22] <ubuntivity> Nice, genii. But you know ubuntu server has NO X.org, so will it work either way?
[21:22] <xok> does anyone of you know where to search?..
[21:23] <genii> ubuntivity: You didn't specify server :)
[21:23] <metacode> So how to find out which driver to use?
[21:23] <ubuntivity> I specified :))
[21:24] <genii> ubuntivity: Ah, earlier, i see now.
[21:24] <ubuntivity> So, that "xset" is specific for X.org, right genii ?
[21:24] <Lizards|Work> metacode, superkey -> software & updates, the 'Additional Drivers' tab
[21:24] <Lizards|Work> check if there's options
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> sim590, run sudo fdisk -l
[21:24] <genii> ubuntivity: Yes, xset is for X
[21:25] <metacode> Lizards|work no its empty
[21:25] <sim590> wilee-nilee: well.. what is strange is that it appears and disappear
[21:26] <sim590> wilee-nilee: now it's not listed anymore.. I tried to fdisk and it said: no such file or directory..
[21:26] <Lizards|Work> metacode, i'm not sure which sources you need to enable, but i'm fairly certain you're missing the proprietary driver for it
[21:27] <genii> ubuntivity: You could try instead vbetool dpms <state> where state is on/off/standby/suspend
[21:27] <guest-rhszUU> Good afternoon everyone , ive been experiencing a slow performance on my ubuntu 12, it gets very hot when im using adobe flash player, and it just starts slowing down any help?
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> sim590, You have a disc reader or any cards plugged in or a floppy port, just a guess here.
[21:28] <xangua> guest-rhszUU: stop using adobe flash or use it the less necesary
[21:28] <metacode> Lizards|work, Ok I'll try getting more info about it and try some more threads. Thanks for help.
[21:28] <Lizards|Work> metacode, in Ubuntu Software in the Software & Updates, proprietary drivers for devices is the third checkbox
[21:29] <guest-rhszUU> its always running when im watching a video on my browser, any otrher alternative_
[21:29] <guest-rhszUU> ?
[21:29] <napsc> xok: look in /etc/syslog.conf     it should have the log locations and files
[21:30] <leftcase> guest-rhszUU - what's the CPU load (in top) when this is happening and what are the specs of the system you're using?
[21:30] <xok> napsc: I don't have such file there...
[21:30] <otak> guest-rhszUU: here's one alternative - https://www.youtube.com/html5
[21:30] <guest-rhszUU> cpu . only for browser w flash 58
[21:31] <sim590> wilee-nilee: there's nothing.. all dummies (dummy sdcard, ..)
[21:31] <LuckySMack> will this still work on raring server for chrooting users to their own dir? I want to allow users to ftp and non sudo'able ssh. http://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze
[21:31] <guest-rhszUU> thank you otak ill give it a try
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> sim590, Not sure, I don't understand the /dev to see this sdb
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> on occasion
[21:31] <xok> napsc: I have a /var/rsyslog.d/postfix.conf file which doesn't contain anything interesting...
[21:31] <leftcase> :-/
[21:31] <guest-rhszUU> apart of that the system gets a slow performance some times, can i regulate the fan for the proceso_
[21:32] <guest-rhszUU> can i regulate the fan of the CPU?
[21:32] <napsc> do you have /var/log?
[21:33] <xok> napsc: yes, I do...
[21:33] <leftcase> guest-rhszUU --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[21:33] <napsc> does it have mail.log inside?
[21:33] <xok> napsc: and it contains the file named mail.err and mail.log but those are completely empty...
[21:33] <sam101> Hi i have just swiped my existing Windows 7 installation with Ubuntu and now ubuntu 13.04 consists of so many bugs maybe i should go to the long term support one what do you guys think
[21:34] <xok> napsc: are you familiar with the rsyslog?...
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> sam101, Without any details on the breakage we can't really help, and that is an opinion.
[21:34] <energizer2> I just started getting some weird behavior in on google sites (maps and gmail so far). http://imgur.com/YQmjKLK
[21:34] <guest-rhszUU> thank you left case ill try that i dont know whats going on w the computer >*
[21:34] <xok> I see the configuration there pipes to xconsole..
[21:35] <xok> I think that's the reason...
[21:35] <energizer2> black lines like that move around the screen, and the top-bar (black) doesnt always appear as its supposed to
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> sam101, The main benefit of longterm is support 12.04 is 5 years.
[21:36] <sam101> its not one breakage its every time i install ubuntu from by usb it fails to get drivers from my wireless adapter then it crashes on ubuntu center but maybe its my usb stick because it was working fluently before
[21:36] <leftcase> guest-rhszUU that'll show you the speed of the sensor, but to control if you'll need something like the 'fancontrol' application
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> sam101, What's the wireless card? some need a terminal install.
[21:37] <Pessimist> I have installed kubuntu-desktop and it installed KDE like I wanted. But now that I want to remove KDE so I uninstall kubuntu-desktop but it only uninstalls the meta package. How do I uninstall KDE ?
[21:37] <sam101> Its belkin
[21:37] <Pessimist> My base is Ubuntu 13.04 so it should easy to do like installing it
[21:37] <napsc> do you have logging enabled?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> sam101, THis a usb?
[21:37] <xangua> !pureubuntu | Pessimist
[21:38] <sam101> yes usb
[21:38] <geri> hi i look for a program to display the diff between 2 files
[21:38] <Pinkamena_D> can anyone see the css3d-effect at the top of this website? http://acko.net/ I have tried many versions of chrome including the dev one and it will not work
[21:38] <geri>  can someone recommend a gui based tool for ubuntu?
[21:38] <Lizards|Work> geri, vimdiff
[21:38] <jluc_> its an option in the global setup manager rosco_y
[21:38] <sam101> but its working fine now i just removed it and put it back in and its working
[21:38] <Pinkamena_D> It works fine on windows
[21:38] <jpds> geri: diff -Nurp file1 file2
[21:38] <jluc_> oups
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> sam101,Chances are 12.04 will do no better on the wireless, if its a usb run lsusb and find it and post the exact model, if you need.
[21:38] <leftcase> guest-rhszUU an ACPI compliant BIOS is supposed to control this but sometimes this doesn't work as it should. Google threw up this example of using fancontrol - I don't know if it's any good or not - http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[21:39] <xok> napsc: well, I think I do, how do I check?..
[21:39] <sam101> ok thanks and btw the adapter is working now i just took it out and plugged in again and it found it
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> sam101, Cool, you indicated it was sporadic it seemed, be sure to use nicks when answering others then we actually are informed you are talking to us.
[21:41] <sam101> Ok will do thanks
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> easy to miss posts is all. sam101
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:43] <xok> napsc: I found the reason, somehow log files were owned by "messagebus" instead of "syslog"...
[21:43] <xok> napsc: thans for helping me...
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> Pinkamena_D, without booting to windows can you describe the missing effect better, is it moving?
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> look 3d but static
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> looks*
[21:48] <dakta> Could someone direct me to an appropriate channel to ask for support in?
[21:48] <wN> dakta: this one.
[21:49] <wN> unless its about a specific technology. then perhaps they have a special room for that, but this is the usual catch-all channel
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> wN, Hardly this is ubuntu support
[21:49] <dakta> wN: Excellent.
[21:49] <wN> wilee-nilee: what.
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> not sure I can be clearer
[21:50] <wN> you could use punctionation for one.
[21:50] <dakta> I have a WD Green Power hard drive out of a bricked MyBook Live NAS device. I have two different SATA-USB interfaces: on a generic dongle type, one contained in an enclosure.
[21:50] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I have some questions about TOR on Ubuntu, is there a better place to ask?
[21:52] <wN> PuffTheMagicDrag: you can go ahead and ask your question, or try #tor
[21:52] <wN> PuffTheMagicDrag: https://www.torproject.org/about/contact.html.en#irc
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | wN
[21:52] <Kevin`> is there somewhere I can adjust the timeout that applies to this? the server is down and it loves to choose it: 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)]
[21:52] <wN> wilee-nilee: really? leave me alone. be helpful or shut up.
[21:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> wN, People who start out as jerks rarely improve.
[21:53] <wN> wilee-nilee: indeed. thats why i should stop talking to you :)
[21:53] <sam101> I have a lot of knowledge on tor fire away
[21:53] <wN> PuffTheMagicDrag: you coan try the irc at that link, or in that channel topic.
[21:53] <dakta> PuffTheMagicDrag: Helpful people in #tor... /s I'd help but I don't use TOR.
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> and not worth the hassle
[21:53] <wN> PuffTheMagicDrag: or just ask
[21:54] <dakta> So, does anyone know anything about hard drives?
[21:54] <wN> dakta: they're square right? well ig uess more rectangle.
[21:54] <Aprel> hi, just installed windows 8.1 on my ubuntu machine for dualboot. Yes, I was careful with partitions and ubuntu partition is still there, but 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' returns Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.' Suggestions? I'm in the live cd now.
[21:54] <wN> dakta: you never actually asked a question.
[21:54] <Kevin`> dakta: you didn't ask a question, you just said you have a hard drive and usb adapters
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> dakta, You need to staet your problem for hep, not poll the channel. ;)
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> staye*
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, This a UEFI gpt setup?
[21:55] <dakta> wN: Just a mo'
[21:56] <matrixa1> http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4082556 support Ubuntu Edge! :D
[21:56] <wN> dakta: i hope you're not checking the shape of the drive. i was only joking.
[21:56] <sam101> if its a gpt partion table or ms dos ubuntu partion doesnt read them accuretly
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[21:56] <sam101> tor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went t
[21:56] <sam101> o #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.
[21:56] <FloodBot1> sam101: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to not
[21:56] <wN> oh sam101, wrong paste!
[21:56] <Aprel> wilee-nilee: not 100% sure what that is, but I used to dualboot w Windows 7, just wrote over the Ubuntu partition. Dualboot worked fine w Win7.
[21:56] <genii> Hm.
[21:57] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Well, I can't ask the Tor question because I ran into another issue. Shut my laptop slightly, and now it
[21:57] <Kevin`> Aprel: you have to specify the boot/root directory when using grub-install from a different system
[21:57] <Aprel> ^^ Sorry, overwrote the *WINDOWS7* partition
[21:57] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Now it's flashing. Flashflash pause, flashflash pause. Just white screen. Also, sorry, didn't mean to hit enter
[21:57] <dakta> I've got a WD Green Power 2TB 3.5" SATA drive out of a bricked WD MyBook Live NAS device. I have two different SATA-USB interfaces, one a generic multipurpose dongle type and another contained in an enclosure. If I format the drive using one of those interfaces, everything works fine, up until I try to access the drive using the other interface. Then the drive appears unformatted and cannot be used unless it is formatting using that inte
[21:57] <dakta> becomes unusable on the other interface,
[21:57] <dakta> It's like some kind of interface-UUID lock protection mode on the drive or something.
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, Run this app from the live cd (only the bootinfo summary) and post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:58] <Aprel> Kevin`: okay, can you please give an example command? Not sure what the boot/root dir is.
[21:58] <dakta> And I can't find any information about this.
[21:58] <Kevin`> dakta: show the exact size of the drive in bytes reported when using both interfaces
[21:58] <Naughx> --boot-directory=DIR
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> Kevin`, That command is correct when a mbr is used.
[21:58] <Pinkamena_D> wilee-nilee, I just looked back here after troubleshooting it manually
[21:58] <matrixa1> Aprel, i concur with wilee-nilee, you simply need to reinstall Grub, boot-repair will do that for you
[21:59] <Kevin`> wilee-nilee: boot repair is, grub-install run manually needs to know where to install to
[21:59] <Pinkamena_D> I just found the issue, that google chrome "blacklisted my gpu", but you can bypass this by going to chrome://flags
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> I would only run the bootinfo summary to begin with so we can see what's up. Aprel
[21:59] <Pinkamena_D> and toggle the top option
[22:00] <Pinkamena_D> strangly, we have the same gpu in most computers here at the school, including the windows ones, so I think its more of a chrome/ubuntu issue
[22:00] <napsc> xok: great.  sorry i was gone, tried to check a config i had, but don't use anymore. dont remember having problems with not logging.  usually logging too much
[22:00] <pepee> hey people, look at this and please add yourself to the report if you have problems:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1106855
[22:00] <pepee> to solve, add this repo:  https://launchpad.net/~brandonsnider/+archive/cdrtools
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> Kevin`, sda is the mbr, except for th e extra (') it is correct if this is a msdos partitioning.
[22:01] <Kevin`> pepee: last I heard cdrtools took a bad path in licensing, has that changed?
[22:01] <dakta> Kevin`: "2 TB (2,000,398,934,016 Bytes)" using the generic dongle, "2 TB (2,000,398,934,016 Bytes)". And yes, those bytes are the same.
[22:01] <pepee> Kevin`, no idea, I just found it
[22:01] <ubuntivity> Guys, I tried to play an MP3 file on my Ubuntu server using mpg123, I got the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909123/
[22:02] <xok> napsc: no problem, thanks anyway for helping me...
[22:02] <pepee> but the linked page says the problem is ficticious
[22:02] <Aprel> Okay, I'm getting the boot-repair binaries
[22:02] <pepee> Kevin`, ^
[22:02] <wN> dakta: i would have to see what the exit issue you're hitting to help you further. how are you trying to format these devices? how are you accessing them? but i gotta run. sorry.
[22:02]  * wN parts
[22:02] <dagerik> ubuntivity: install alsa
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, Your command though from the live cd is incorrect.
[22:03] <ubuntivity> OK, dagerik. I'll try that and be back :)
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> that is run in the install
[22:03] <Aprel> wilee-nilee: okay, how can I fix it?
[22:03] <dakta> wN: Ping me when you return, I'll let you know if I've solved it then.
[22:03] <Kevin`> pepee: that's the author's web site, and it doesn't list specifics
[22:04] <goddard> how can i install custom themes from gnome-looks.org?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, Generallthe basic repair would fix it with the boot repair if you have standard partitioning, you can chroot in and run that command as well.
[22:04] <Kevin`> pepee: all it says is some company didn't have a problem with the license
[22:04] <dakta> wN: For the record, I've partitioned the drive using both Gparted and Apple's Disk Utility.app. I've tested other drives partitioned in the same manner on the same hardware using both dongles on the same hardware, and no problems like this.
[22:04] <pepee> well, no idea about that
[22:04] <Naughx> sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda (Note: Your ubuntu partition needs to be mounted at "/mnt")
[22:04] <pepee> Kevin`, but the thing is , ubuntu is shipping buggy code
[22:05] <Naughx> That's what I do when I reinstall grub
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, The bootinfo summary will tell us the partitioning and boot info of W8.1
[22:05] <wN> dakta: im headed home from work, so i wont be back until tomorrow at 9am. however, perhaps you'll catch me lurking tonight. send me a pm and i'll remember
[22:05] <Kevin`> pepee: actually, the statement is redundant since he's using a sun license. which is odd because iirc the purpose of that license is to require contributions to be owned by sun while still being open-source-ish
[22:05] <dakta> wN: will do
[22:05] <Kevin`> pepee: then the bugs need to be fixed
[22:05] <Aprel> Naughx: Oh, I should mount the ubuntu partition?
[22:06] <Naughx> yes
[22:06] <ubuntivity> dagerik: I got the same error but this time starting with "[module.c:141] error: Failed to open module esd: file not found
[22:06] <test456> Hey guys, how to hide this dark frame inside window? http://screencloud.net/v/AGAp
[22:06] <pepee> Kevin`, yeah, but then, I'd have to: debug some thing I don't know about, and then wait for weeks or months to get the working software
[22:06] <Naughx> sudo mount /dev/sdaY /mnt (Replace Y by your ubuntu partition)
[22:06] <test456> in inactive window its hided
[22:06] <pepee> I prefer to add that repo and be done
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, All you have been informed is here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[22:07] <Kevin`> pepee: well, it's possible. you can't combine cddl code with gpl code as the licenses are incompatible, but nothing prevents a cddl program from being provided on linux by itself
[22:07] <xibalba> how come some actions dont work well with sudo such as the following:
 that's one of my worst fears
[22:07] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Ubuntu 64bit, how do I see a list of currently running tasks?
[22:08] <xibalba> $ :> index.html
[22:08] <xibalba> -bash: index.html: Permission denied
[22:08] <Fishscene> My Ubuntu 13.04 x64 resumed from Standby just now... and apparently the appstore and firefox removed themselves and don't exist. How do I re-install the appstore?
[22:08] <xibalba> $ sudo :> index.html
[22:08] <xibalba> -bash: index.html: Permission denied
[22:08] <Lizards|Work> PuffTheMagicDrag, top
[22:08] <pepee> Kevin`, I'm not a programmer btw, and far from a lawyer
[22:08] <genii> xibalba: For one thing, index.html is probably not a shell file
[22:08] <xibalba> i should be able to truncate it though genii
[22:08] <pepee> anyway, thanks, but I'm just trying to help
[22:08] <xibalba> it's a file under /var/www
[22:09] <Aprel> Ah, thanks looks like Naughx's mount command then grub-install fixed it. It's just when I installed Win7 the first time I didn't remeber going through all these steps w grub, just like grub-install and it was done. All looks good now. Thanks!
[22:09] <alumno__> alguien que me ayude?
[22:09] <Aprel> alumno__: mejor hacer tu pregunta en #ubuntu-es para hablar en espanol
[22:10] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Puedo traducir, pero no se nada de ubuntu.
[22:10] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Oh... Es mejor que hace como dice Aprel ;)
[22:10] <dakta> y'all beat me to it.
[22:10] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Lizards|Work, found dashboard with recently used stuff... I think I'm missing a list of anything currently running in the background. I think I'm having Tor issues because there's already a copy running, I want to kill it.
[22:11] <Lizards|Work> ps aux | grep tor
[22:11] <pepee> !es | alumno__
[22:11] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Um. Dumb it down, please, Lizards|Work?
[22:11] <Lizards|Work> command line
[22:11] <pepee> Aprel, use the bot ;)
[22:12] <Aprel> pepee: heh, keep forgetting it has so many responses. :)
[22:13] <Lizards|Work> PuffTheMagicDrag, at command line, do "ps aux | grep 'tor'"
[22:13] <sigwhite> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 15z alongside Windows 8. I have managed to install 13.04 by booting in legacy (non-EFI) mode and managed to install GRUB in non-secure UEFI mode, but launching Ubuntu fails silently (freeze) after the "loading ram" message from GRUB.
[22:13] <Lizards|Work> that'll give you information about the existing tor process
[22:13] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Thanks...
[22:14] <Naughx> @Aprel :)
[22:14] <sigwhite> Also, I can't boot from the 13.04 live CD unless I'm in legacy bios mode.
[22:15] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Working! Time for me to crash out. Three wins with a computer in one day is pushing it. In a moment, it will pull a Live Free Die Hard and blow up my house.
[22:15] <ubuntivity> Guys, I have Ubuntu server and I need to play sound with it. I had installed alsa and mpg123, but when I try to play mp3 file using mpg123 I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909153/
[22:16] <genii> ubuntivity: Try mplayer
[22:17] <sigwhite> tl;dr: I'm on an UEFI Win8 notebook and want to dual-boot Ubuntu. How?
[22:17] <sigwhite> (Wiki isn't helping)
[22:17] <ubuntivity> going to do that, genii
[22:17] <PuffTheMagicDrag> You have to disable Secureboot.
[22:17] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Know how to, sigwhite?
[22:18] <ubuntivity> it want's to install 73 new packages!!! genii
[22:18] <ubuntivity> Isn't there something lighter, genii?
[22:19] <sigwhite> PuffTheMagicDrag: I disabled "secure boot" in the UEFI setup / bios. But that has nothing to do with Ubuntu not launching.
[22:20] <czuck> hi there, I added gedit to the list of startup applications but now when I start up I get 2 gedit menu bars: one where it should be and a second one just below it. Any ideas on what could be causing this?
[22:21] <genii> ubuntivity: There's also moc, but I'm not sure what kind of dependencies that has
[22:21] <sigwhite> /window 1
[22:21] <sigwhite> /window 2
[22:21] <sigwhite> /window 0
[22:21] <sigwhite> gah
[22:21] <FloodBot1> sigwhite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <ubuntivity> Is it neccessary for sound to play to have X.org installed? genii
[22:21] <Pinkamena_D> after you do "sudo su" how do you go back to a standard user?
[22:22] <bpietro> Pinkamena_D, exit
[22:22] <genii> ubuntivity: mplayer shouldn't require X, moc either
[22:22] <Aprel> ubuntivity: no, you just need sound package. I have a headless box that I play cds w all the time.
[22:22] <Pinkamena_D> thanks
[22:22] <trism> czuck: my guess would be gedit starts before the menuproxy is ready, so it defaults back to the one in the window, might try making a script and adding a few seconds of delay before starting gedit
[22:22] <Aprel> ubuntivity: alsa, for ex.
[22:22] <bpietro> :)
[22:23] <ubuntivity> I installed alsa, but mpg123 didnt play audio and the error was http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909153/
[22:23] <czuck> trism: thanks, I will try that right away
[22:23] <Aprel> ubuntibity: go to your alsa settings and make sure the mixer's volume isn't low. When alsa installed for me, valume was at 0 for some reason.
[22:24]  * ubuntivity is feeling audio-less!
[22:24] <ubuntivity> How to check alsa settings on command line?
[22:24] <sig_white> Okay, sorry about that. irssi threw up
[22:25] <tty> alsamixer &
[22:25] <otak> ubuntivity: alsamixer, also does this work: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*.wav
[22:27] <ubuntivity> This is what I get, otak : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909179/
[22:27] <tryitharder> compiz is working but the window decoration is gone...
[22:27] <czuck_> trism: that worked, thanks very much
[22:27] <ubuntivity> When I try to aplay a wav file, I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909179/
[22:28] <czuck_> trism: bit hacky though... wish this could be done in sync
[22:28] <tty> sorry I meant just "alsamixer" no "&"
[22:29] <ubuntivity> tty, I doubt the volume is set to 0 since I'm getting an error trying to play files!
[22:29] <otak> ubuntivity: you can try sudo alsactl init
[22:29] <trism> czuck_: well, we are supposed to have indicators starting from upstart soon in either 13.10 or 14.04 so that would allow you to have a job that starts gedit with something like: start on started indicator-appmenu
[22:29] <sig_white> Here's what I spent the better part of the day on: 1. Getting the live cd to work (uefi+secure: fail, boot to windows; uefi+non-secure: fail, freeze on launch; win livecd "help": fail, Win8 boot loader error; non-uefi: success). 2. Installing Ubuntu (had to "fix" sda GPT with GParted, then installed root partition on SSD sdb). 3. Installing GRUB for EFI using livecd with boot-repair.
[22:29] <trism> czuck_: that's the idea anyway
[22:30] <ubuntivity> Did it otak, same error with aplay :(
[22:30] <czuck_> trism: understood, will wait for that update, in the meantime the delay will do just fine
[22:30] <napsc> ubuntivity: does it work as root?
[22:30] <czuck_> trism: thanks again
[22:30] <Aprel> ubuntivity: your log file suggests alsa can't find your sound card. You might be missing a driver/package.
[22:31] <ubuntivity> How to know if the kernel supports my audio device?
[22:31] <Lizards|Work> i don't remember if you need to modprobe or something
[22:31] <bpietro> sig_white, seems it was a busy day ;)
[22:31] <Kevin`> pepee: btw, do dvd burning with growisofs (yes, iso images too), i've never had a problem with it
[22:31] <sig_white> In order to install GRUB I had to boot in legacy mode to run the livecd. boot-repair luckily detected EFI nevertheless and asked me to install grub-efi... which failed because "source_dir doesn't exist" (google leads to bug report with no useful information other than "works as expected").
[22:32] <pepee> Kevin`, I just wasted 3 DVDs, and it seemed obvious that this was a software problem. and, yeah, it was
[22:32] <pepee> good thing I usually use google to search for similar bugs
[22:33] <Kevin`> pepee: that's why i'm offering the suggestion to use growisofs instead of wodim
[22:33] <pepee> ubuntu has teached me well in that sense...
[22:33] <pepee> ah k, sorry, dunno what's growisofs
[22:33] <bpietro> yes, I like UEFI, too :P
[22:33] <sig_white> Basically, after enduring this nonsense for hours (completely blowing up my boot loader by checking "secure boot" in boot-repair at one point) I flapped the BIOS back to UEFI+secure and wiped the Ubuntu partitions.
[22:34] <wN> dakta: ping
[22:34] <wN> dakta: figure it out?
[22:34] <pepee> Kevin`, "growisofs - combined genisoimage frontend/DVD recording program." isn't it the same?
[22:34] <Aprel> pepee: wodim is an old fork. http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html has more updated source code. Perhpas the updated version will work?
[22:34] <sig_white> I really only have one question: How can I do this properly, or failing that, how can I remove GRUB now that it's completely vestigial and only shows up in nonsecure mode anyway?
[22:34] <pepee> the problem is genisoimage, not k3b...
[22:34] <Kevin`> pepee: there ARE packages available for ubuntu unofficially, you've found, yes?  i've never had a problem though, and the author seems pretty hostile and has odd licensing terms, which means inclusion in debian is unlikely (ubuntu extras may be possible though)
[22:35] <Kevin`> pepee: you said you were using wodim for dvds, which it obviously doesn't work well for, not growisofs
[22:35] <pepee> Kevin`, yeah, I just added some ppa that has the package
[22:35] <pepee> Kevin`, bug report says it's a genisoimage bug
[22:35] <pepee> which affects everything else...
[22:36] <pepee> I don't really know about all this, I'm not a dev
[22:36] <goddard> how do you change system sounds?
[22:37] <pepee> but it seems obvious to me that that program is buggy, while the original one isn't
[22:37] <pepee> Aprel, I didn't try
[22:37] <bpietro> sorry, I don't know. I only red some articles, saying to myself "Thanks for not having UEFI box'
[22:37] <Kevin`> pepee: individuals can ignore the law, but public entities can't :/
[22:38] <pepee> I was going to try updating it, but I didn't, I found a quick and better solution
[22:38] <pepee> Kevin`, yeah, I know, but... are there alternatives, at least?
[22:39]  * sig_white taps his mike: "Is this thing on?"
[22:39] <Kevin`> pepee: alternatives suitible for inclusion into the main debian repo? I doubt it
[22:40] <patricia_> não estou conseguindo fazer minha impressora funcionar por que?
[22:41] <pepee> !br | patricia_
[22:41] <patricia_> ok obrigada
[22:43] <poz> i am having a problem with the dash
[22:43] <poz> it is not transparent
[22:44] <poz> i tryed the compiz config utility  but it fails to fix the problem
[22:44] <poz> anyone know how to manually edit the settings?
[22:47] <k1l> poz: use unity tweak tool, its in the repos since 13.04
[22:49] <poz> that fails to work too
[22:52] <Seth_> Hey guys, I just wanted to come back to say thank you. I finally got my computer partitioned and my boot up fixed, thanks to you guys. You all are awesome.
[22:53] <poz> Anyone know how to change the transparency of unity dash with out unity tweak utility or compiz config?
[22:55] <pepee> Kevin`, here it says you could distribute the source code: https://lwn.net/Articles/200374/
[22:55] <pepee> again, no idea, but if it's true... why not? AFAIK, you are already doing that
[22:55] <pepee> with some packages
[22:57] <Kevin`> pepee: cddl is a proper opensource licence, but you can't combine gpl and cddl code (or libraries) since the licenses are not compatible
[22:57] <Kevin`> pepee: there's no problem distributing binaries if they don't link with gpl code (I think there's exceptions for system stuff, I forget where)
[23:00] <guzzlefry> So, I was changing the theme in System Settings->Appearance (Gnome-shell), and my taskbar and friends disappeared.
[23:00] <guzzlefry> Any idea on how I can get them back?
[23:00] <Kevin`> pepee: refer the the previous comment. individuals (making their own packages) are free to ignore the law, but large public entities have to be very careful
[23:01] <pepee> oh well, I dunno :/
[23:01] <Kevin`> I wonder why he's using cddl in the first place, it sounds to me like the change was because of some stupid argument
[23:01] <doomlord> anyone know oof a text editor which does (a)horiz/vert splits (b)tabed windowing, per spli; (c) folding.  i know of gedit,jedit,kate which all handle 2/3
[23:02] <Kevin`> i'm sure the people who used to work at sun would LOVE to be able to remove the cddl from the zfs code, for example
[23:02] <Kevin`> and get it into linux
[23:02] <Kevin`> why anyone would intentionally create the incompatability..
[23:03] <jrib> doomlord: vim
[23:05] <doomlord> the thing about the guis is its reallyy easy to move panes around, i always forget the hotkeyys. i like the idea of vim though but always gravitate back to something with ctrl xcv bindings from the ground up
[23:06] <doomlord> had a spell of using emacs but ultimately its ctrl-g vs escape always bugs me, no matter  how much one rebinds
[23:07] <akronix> Hey! why a lot of times pictures in facebook doesn't load properly with firefox??
[23:07] <X-Sleepy-X> doomlord: dunno if geany supports all of your specifications but maybe...
[23:09] <doomlord> right now gedit is my default .. the tabbed ui, and i can open a few more root windows to get  'vertical splits', but folding would be nice.
[23:09] <satellit_e> what is the name for the install program in 12.04.2?  I need to install it
[23:10] <jrib> doomlord: gvim
[23:10] <X-Sleepy-X> satellit_e: are you thinking about synaptic?
[23:10] <iLogical> I can't select, although it's there in the menu and I click it,  in the Monitor of Built-in Analog Stereo...
[23:11] <iLogical> on pavucontroçl
[23:11] <satellit_e> no I think I needed ubiquity....
[23:11] <sig_white> Help! I want to dual-boot Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 with UEFI. I can only install Ubuntu from live CD in legacy (non-UEFI) mode and can't install grub-efi because "source_dir doesn't exist". Secure-mode toggle does nothing. Wat!?
[23:13] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | sig_white start here
[23:15] <doomlord> gvim looks pretty good, not sure it has the tabs and it doesnt come with my  prefereed bindngs out of the box ..i suspect i'd hae an emacslike experience with it
[23:15] <sig_white> MonkeyDust: I have started there and worked through that and it's not helping. The point at which I gave up was: GRUB working with UEFI enabled (but secure mode disabled), but freezing after "loading initial ramdisk...".
[23:16] <sig_white> MonkeyDust: I'm fairly certain the issue has something to do with grub-efi failing when I install it with apt-get as boot-repair tells me to do.
[23:19]  * rodrigograca31 waves hello
[23:19] <sig_white> MonkeyDust: Any other ideas? Most of the stuff I find out there is completely irrelevant because it assumes I can run the livecd in any mode other than pure legacy. I tried UEFI:true/true, UEFI:true/secure:false, UEFI:false (i.e. legacy mode), as well as the booting "help" in the windows autorun thing that's on the live CD. The ONLY way I could boot into the live CD was using Legacy.
[23:20] <holstein> sig_white: the "thing" on the cd is wubi.exe
[23:20] <holstein> !wubi
[23:20] <sig_white> holstein: irrelevant as it didn't work anyway.
[23:20] <holstein> sig_white: you'll need to be able to run some kind of installation media to install
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> sig_white  no, i have an old pc myself, not familiar enough with uefi
[23:21] <holstein> sig_white: its actualy quite relevant, since you are trying to install, and that is not a normal install
[23:21] <sig_white> holstein: Let me repeat that: I got the live cd to run by disabling uefi in the bios.
[23:21] <megrandpa> can anybody suggest a chromium addon to download videos from youtue
[23:21] <megrandpa> youtube*
[23:21] <holstein> sig_white: that is one way to run the installer. is that not an ecceptable way to continue?
[23:22] <sig_white> holstein: by simply disabling secure mode (but not uefi) I could run the live cd *menu*, but selecting install or "try ubuntu" just froze.
[23:22] <holstein> megrandpa: no... you can ask the content creator, or search around
[23:22] <holstein> !nomodeset | sig_white
[23:22] <holstein> ^^ i would try that from the live CD.. you could be experiencing hardware support issues relating to your graphics card that have nothing to do with UEFI
[23:22] <sig_white> holstein: I managed to install Ubuntu, but it didn't give me a way to boot into it because the setup couldn't install a bootloader (grub failed).
[23:23] <holstein> sig_white: from the install you made, that i assume you dont know if it works, or will boot a graphical environment
[23:23] <holstein> sig_white: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:24] <sig_white> holstein: That would be a possibility. Would that explain why GRUB freezes with this?: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WEUvjd6msdw/UfAU0oEFfTI/AAAAAAAAAL4/mqV-0dkY_Gg/w680-h510-no/24.07.13+-+1
[23:24] <akronix> anyone knows if gedit is available for xubuntu??
[23:24] <holstein> akronix: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. the same repos. sudo apt-get install gedit
[23:24] <kostkon> megrandpa, if you are also looking for a desktop app, this here is fine https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/allvideodownloader/
[23:24] <akronix> via software center i can't install it
[23:25] <holstein> sig_white: did you install grub or not?
[23:25] <sig_white> holstein: I installed from live cd in legacy mode, then ran the live cd in legacy mode and ran boot-repair, which detected the efi, but when it told me to run a couple of shell commands to install grub-efi, grub-efi failed to install because the post-install script is broken (according to the only bug report I could find), which leads me to believe grub wasn't installed correctly by boot-repair.
[23:26] <sig_white> Installing with the live cd's "install ubuntu" ended with grub failing to install. I had to install grub with boot-repair later (using the live cd in legacy mode again).
[23:27] <ubuntivity> guys, how can I run a command through ssh that remains running even when my ssh gets disconnected?
[23:27] <sig_white> Oh, and at one point I managed to install grub-pc instead and that let me run neither Ubuntu nor Windows, which was fun.
[23:27] <zykotic10> akronix: terminal "apt-cache policy gedit"
[23:27] <syn-ack> ubuntivity: screen.
[23:27] <ubuntivity> what does screen do?
[23:27] <zykotic10> syn-ack: honestly, i'd suggest tmux over screen these days YMMV ;)
[23:27] <ubuntivity> I tried tmux once
[23:27] <akronix> oks, thanks, i'll try both...
[23:27] <jrib> ubuntivity: if you don't care about output or returning to the screen where you launched it, COMMAND & disown.  If you care about output, nohup COMMAND.  If you want to reattach to the screen, either "screen COMMAND" or "tmux COMMAND".
[23:27] <syn-ack> haven't played with it, zykotic10
[23:28] <Guest98194> Hey all, would anyone be able to walk me through installing ubuntu on a Barebone Computer? Just now getting into the Ubuntu scene and I don't wanna mess up my first try or anything like that.
[23:28] <syn-ack> ubuntivity: it's like tmux
[23:28] <jrib> ubuntivity: tmux is screen's younger, more hip brother
[23:28] <syn-ack> I'm a bit old fashioned, apparently.
[23:28] <jrib> see ^
[23:28] <zykotic10> syn-ack: it's different!  but much more modern - once i switched it to screen keybindings life was grand again ;)
[23:29] <ubuntivity> so, I can reattach using tmux command, right?
[23:29]  * jrib will not ask zykotic10 if "screen keybindings" == ctrl-a so as not to be disappointed
[23:29] <jrib> ubuntivity: tmux attach
[23:29] <ubuntivity> but what if I have two tmux-ed COMMAND that are the same? getting over-obsessive here!)
[23:29] <megrandpa> kostkon, i will try it
[23:29] <jrib> ubuntivity: tmux ls, tmux -t blah attach
[23:30] <jrib> ubuntivity: or maybe tmux attach -t blah (based on my history)
[23:30] <sig_white> holstein: The ubuntuforums are down, which is part of the reason Google isn't being very helpful with this.
[23:30] <ubuntivity> I'll try to mess around with man tmux
[23:30] <ubuntivity> Why both Ubuntu forums AND Apple developers site are down at the same time?
[23:31] <zykotic10> syn-ack: and anyone else reading - the ONLY downside to tmux is that it's BSD licensed.  so if GPL is an issue... other then that (and the fact screen does physical serial connections) tmux rocks.  jrib i try many more keybinding then that ;)  but that's the first one [i guess NOT good if you use emacs... but i'm a vi-guy ;)]
[23:31] <ubuntivity> are there any recent server vulnerabilities??
[23:31] <akronix> lol, apple developers is down too?
[23:31] <jrib> zykotic10: but readline...
[23:32] <holstein> sig_white: well, we know the cd's and iso's work.. you can always ask the manufacturer how you are supposed to use the system
[23:32] <zykotic10> jrib: also an issue! yes.
[23:32] <ubuntivity> yes akronix, and they (themselves) said that some userdata were exposed, and they are extending the duration of apps availability on their store during this downtime
[23:33] <syn-ack> What
[23:33] <zykotic10> jrib: my brain just can't switch to ^b... ^a is "natural" at this point - years of using screen, has warped my brain.
[23:33] <syn-ack> what's wrong with the BSD license?
[23:33] <syn-ack> I prefer it over the GPL.
[23:33] <akronix> but userdata of apple developers were exposed too?? OMG that's not serious for apple
[23:33] <jrib> zykotic10: ^b is also bad.  Personally I use alt-space
[23:33] <zykotic10> syn-ack: non-copyleft [OT issue here!]
[23:34] <ubuntivity> They declared that for sake of "transparency" I remember!
[23:34] <sig_white> holstein: I am serious. "sudo apt-get install grub-efi" fails with "source_dir doesn't exist", as will "grub-install" afterwards. This isn't a weird manufacturer quirk. There's even a Launchpad ticket mentioning it. The only problem is that neither the manpage nor any of the tickets or Google results indicate what this message means or how to fix it.
[23:34] <w30> Guest98194, don't leave so fast first of all !!!
[23:35] <syn-ack> zykotic10: You're the one who brought it up....
[23:35] <sig_white> FWIW, it didn't prevent GRUB from being installed "properly" (i.e. I reboot and see GRUB in non-secure UEFI mode), so maybe that error doesn't really have any impact other than marking the package as not being installed correctly.
[23:35] <nimdAHK> Can I replace my existing partition setup (/, /home, swap) with one extended partition?
[23:36] <ubuntivity> gotta go eat, good bye :)
[23:36] <ubuntivity> quit hungry
[23:36] <zykotic10> nimdAHK: one extended, and at least 3 logical drives!  BUT, grub and fstab won't be happy!  you'll need to reinstall/and rescan grub!
[23:37] <sig_white> holstein: Oh, just an aside: is it possible to install Ubuntu's root partition on sdb instead of sda? Windows is on sda, but sdb is an SSD, so that'd be neat.
[23:37] <holstein> sig_white: im not clear how you are booting the system without grub
[23:37] <nimdAHK> zykotic10: right. Can I do it in-place?
[23:37] <sig_white> holstein: Depends on what you mean by "the system". Windows 8 is still installed.
[23:37] <holstein> sig_white: you can install whatever you want where ever you want (or are allowed)
[23:37] <syn-ack> sig_white: This is why Secure Boot is evil
[23:38] <zykotic10> nimdAHK: if you're hitting the 4 partition limit on MS-DOS - then that is what you might want to do.  BUT - personally, i think resizing partitions is insanity (have a backup!) - good luck
[23:38] <sig_white> syn-ack: Don't tell me. Tell Microsoft.
[23:38] <akronix> i've a very annoying issue with the wireless card of my netbook (samsung n150), it doesn't work cause driver is not installed. I've installed jockey and It has found the driver, I press to activate it and It prompts error:
[23:38] <syn-ack> sig_white: you do have Secure Boot disabled, right? Otherwise you'll need a signed kernel.
[23:38] <nimdAHK> zykotic10: I know what I want to do
[23:38] <nimdAHK> the problem is how
[23:38] <holstein> sig_white: micorsoft made the hardware? its likely a vendor, and there is probably a way to turn off what is causing you trouble
[23:38] <zykotic10> nimdAHK: "in place" is probably not possible - but i could be wrong?!?
[23:38] <sig_white> syn-ack: FWIW, if I had known this I'd probably waited for the Chromebook Pixel rather than buying a Dell.
[23:38] <akronix> 2013-07-25 01:31:18,953 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[23:39] <sig_white> holstein: Isn't secure boot basically Microsoft's idea / pet?
[23:39] <syn-ack> sig_white: did you go into the EFI console and disable Secure Boot?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | akronix
[23:39] <syn-ack> sig_white: ues
[23:39] <syn-ack> yes
[23:39] <akronix> i'm under xubuntu, but previously I had fuduntu and this card worked perfectly
[23:39] <holstein> sig_white: if you have an issue with the hardware config, you'll need to ask the hardware manufacturer.. not microsoft
[23:39] <zykotic10> akronix: "blacklisted" means the driver doesn't get loaded
[23:40] <holstein> !broadcom | akronix
[23:40] <sig_white> syn-ack: Yeah, I did all that. It might not even be a UEFI issue at this point, as I has been pointed out to me.
[23:40] <syn-ack> sig_white: cleared the TPM?
[23:40] <w30> akronix, I had a problem like that with broadcom drivers. There is dependency problems. I solved it by wiring up and then using synaptic to install the broadcom driver plus the dependencys
[23:40] <syn-ack> Update the EFI Firmware?
[23:41] <sig_white> What seems weird to me, however: when I booted into the live cd in legacy boot mode it worked just fine, so how could nomodeset have anything to do with it?
[23:41] <w30> akronix, then remove the wire and connect with the radio *smile*
[23:41] <holstein> sig_white: that was me going off of what i read, which was different from waht is happening
[23:41] <sig_white> I'm fairly certain Ubuntu and GRUB would work just fine if I skipped UEFI altogether and installed both in legacy mode. Well, except GRUB exploded when I tried that.
[23:41] <holstein> sig_white: you have a complex issue, and getting the details straight will be key
[23:42] <akronix> w30: but how Can I say the name of the driver and dependency for type it in synaptic??
[23:42] <holstein> sig_white: for example, you say grub failed to install, but you have an issue with the installed grub.. that is interesting to me, and unclear
[23:42] <msl09> \join #debian
[23:42] <holstein> akronix: you can refer to the link i gave for the package name
[23:42] <syn-ack> sig_white: with UEFI, you NEED to install it in EFI mode. Legacy mode won't work like it does in EFI
[23:42] <akronix> now I'm using an external antena for wifi
[23:42] <holstein> !broadcom > akronix
[23:43] <sig_white> holstein: Oh, okay. Well, the reason this sounds inconsistent is that I'm describing what I did throughout the course of maybe 8 hours and I had different results through different courses of action.
[23:43] <holstein> sig_white: if you can boot the live system, and have no graphics issues, then you likely have no graphics support issues
[23:43] <w30> akronix, First of all have you got a broadcom wireless chip?
[23:43] <akronix> ok, thanks ubottu I'm going to see it
[23:43] <holstein> sig_white: what would i do? disable all of that as possible
[23:43] <akronix> w30: yes, 433X
[23:43] <akronix> 4322X sorry*
[23:44] <syn-ack> sig_white: What it sounds like is happening is that, even though you turned Secure Boot off, it's not.
[23:44] <syn-ack> it's expecting it's keys, which you don't have.
[23:44] <w30> akronix, synaptic finds the broadcom driver .deb by entering "broadcom" in search
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> sig_white, Do you have windows backed up, or feel comfortable if this whole thing goes south?
[23:45] <sig_white> holstein: I tried that. Disabled UEFI ("legacy mode"), installed grub-pc, rebooted: bam, all kinds of weird crap (it threw me into a fancy GUI for a second then just showed me a test pattern of colored bars and froze).
[23:45] <syn-ack> Right, the EFI console.
[23:45] <s00pcan> can anyone suggest a cli/curses program/package to configure wifi+dhcp? thanks
[23:45] <holstein> sig_white: with UEFI disabled is the way to start
[23:45] <s00pcan> I used wifi-menu on arch-linux but eh can't find it
[23:45] <syn-ack> sig_white: I'd really have to see it in person for this one
[23:46] <euxneks> how do I disable certain pidgin notifications? I have a person on my buddies list that is constantly logging in and out for some weird reason and it's really irritating
[23:46] <w30> akronix, then just check the broadcom selection and synaptic drags some other stuff. just relax and let it have it's way with you
[23:46] <holstein> sig_white: if you installed, and took updates, then you have installed a different kernel than what was on the live CD, which could be, again, not supporting your graphics card
[23:46] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: "comfortable"? Not really. All important stuff is in the cloud (can't believe I said that with a straight face) so all the rest is basically fluff, but I don't have a full data backup and don't have a physical recovery disk.
[23:46] <w30> akronix, heheh
[23:46] <euxneks> oh wait I found it under plugins with libnotify> configure plugin
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> sig_white, Really, the recovery is on board burn one, and make an image, that would have been my first question, cover your booty. ;)
[23:47] <holstein> i agree. if win8 is important, clone or back it up
[23:48] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: I'm a self-employed web dev. The notebook is my office. I don't really want to have to wipe it at any point.
[23:48] <holstein> sig_white: that hard drive *will* fail.. so plan for that, and you will be covered for anything that might happen here
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> sig_white, understandable, however if it gets beyond repair what will you do?
[23:49] <MichaelP> Looking on google for away to make apt-get install packages faster.. But all im coming up with is the dumb download things like apt-fast... Thats not what im wanting.. Wanting to make it not go thru so much while installing...
[23:49] <sig_white> holstein: Makes sense, except "try ubuntu" freezes (i.e. I select the option, press ENTER, get a blank screen in the same soothing purple, forever) in non-secure UEFI mode.
[23:49] <holstein> sig_white: you said "the ubuntu live CD works fine"
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> took one loss of a bunch of music to make me realize how important contingencies are.
[23:50] <holstein> sig_white: if it doesnt then it doesnt,a nd we can troubleshoot accordingly
[23:50] <holstein> !nomodeset
[23:50] <holstein> ^^ that is what i would try for the issue you mention
[23:50] <sig_white> holstein: Well, I know it will fail eventually, but the bigger issue isn't installing Win8 but installing a crap-ton of software. Recovery disk wouldn't help with that.
[23:50] <lauratika> how can i encrypt the whole disk in 12.04?...
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, You installed?
[23:51] <holstein> sig_white: the fact is, you *can* break you win8 here.. if you go on without an image, i consider that risky.. do what you want
[23:51] <sig_white> holstein: "the ubuntu live CD works fine [in non-UEFI "legacy boot" mode]".
[23:51] <holstein> sig_white: legacy mode is what to use
[23:51] <lauratika> wilee-nilee: yes already installed
[23:52] <holstein> sig_white: if you have installed in legacy mode, and have other issues, we can discuss those
[23:52] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: All my music is both on Google Music and Wuala. All my emails are on mail servers with their own regular backups. All my work data is on Wuala, too. Everything else is fluff.
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, Cool, I can't really he,lp I just use a truecrypt folder for passwords, others can though
[23:53] <lauratika> wilee-nilee: thanx
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> sig_white, Cool, do what you want, seems like the OS might be important and the hours of updates yo have done and installs, being it is your work, best of luck. ;)
[23:53] <sig_white> holstein: Sorry if I wasn't clear: I can ONLY run the live CD's "try ubuntu" (or "install ubuntu", for that matter) in legacy. However install always fails at the end because of GRUB ("couldn't install grub on /dev/sda" or something), so I tried to fix that with boot-repair on the live CD.
[23:54] <BoF> need help for xubuntu install proxy anyone??
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> !details | BoF
[23:56] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: TBH, none of that fluff (i.e. things that aren't backed up) is valuable enough that losing it in a catastrophic hardware failure scenario would hurt me much and it's too inconvinient to back up (huge applications, config files spread all over the disk, etc), but it would be more than annoying to lose it simply because I want to install Linux natively.
[23:57] <Will> Hey people. Can someone guide me how to reload my packets? I am not very sure what packets are to be completely honest.
[23:57] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: Seriously, the most important reason I'm trying to install Ubuntu is that there is no good terminal emulator for Windows and msys/mingw kinda sucks.
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> sig_white, What would your momma tell you to do? ;)
[23:58] <BoF> i'm running on Xubuntu 13.04 i would like pass by an proxy server but how? i hear to tsocks but i can't install it!
[23:58] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: She's more careless than I am. She'd probably tell me to buy a second notebook.
[23:58] <k1l> Will: "sudo apt-get update" ?
[23:58] <sig_white> My *wife* OTOH would kill me if I did that ;)
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> sig_white, Heh, my only concern is protecting you from yourself to be honest, Heh, and your wife.