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| chance | does juju-core take pull requests on github? or can someone point me in the right direction? | 03:03 |
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| den_sheleh | Hi. I have a little problem. Juju 1.11.4 should work with LXC. But when I try bootstrap environment I go a error : "error: no reachable servers". What is wrong ? | 09:14 |
| jamespage | den_sheleh, do you have the mongodb-server package installed? | 09:32 |
| jamespage | and which Ubuntu release are you running on? | 09:32 |
| jamespage | raring+ is good for mongodb-server - for 12.04/12.10 you need to use a PPA right now | 09:32 |
| jamespage | jcastro, fyi - http://javacruft.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/juju-put-it-there-please/ | 09:32 |
| den_sheleh | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | 09:36 |
| jamespage | den_sheleh, ok - lemme dig out the PPA | 09:39 |
| jamespage | the 12.04 LTS mongodb-server does not support SSL | 09:39 |
| jamespage | den_sheleh, https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/experimental | 09:40 |
| jamespage | den_sheleh, I'm working on getting that into official backports in Ubuntu itself | 09:40 |
| den_sheleh | Thank's a lot | 09:46 |
| den_sheleh | Thank You? James =) | 09:49 |
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| gotwig | hey there | 13:29 |
| gotwig | is there a need for a charm deploying to meteor? | 13:29 |
| privateStack | I am looking on help with bootstrapping juju 1.11.4-raring-amd64 on a private Grizzly OpenStack install | 13:40 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: what's your question? | 13:41 |
| privateStack | Hi marcoceppi | 13:41 |
| privateStack | I get an error, which I think you have even commented on in the boards | 13:41 |
| marcoceppi | hi! | 13:41 |
| privateStack | error: cannot start bootstrap instance: no "precise" images in RegionOne with arches [amd64 i386] | 13:41 |
| privateStack | I have created the public container and have it configured | 13:42 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: okay. there is an answer for this. one second | 13:42 |
| privateStack | that would be amazing | 13:42 |
| privateStack | banging head on wall for a few days | 13:42 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: you mean t the image data container? | 13:42 |
| marcoceppi | err bucket | 13:43 |
| privateStack | I have a control bucket "juju-control" which is not public | 13:43 |
| privateStack | I also have a public bucket "juju-fist" | 13:43 |
| privateStack | juju-dist that is | 13:43 |
| marcoceppi | what does the content of that bucket look like? juju dist | 13:44 |
| privateStack | On network captures I can see juju hitting the juju-control first, then hitting juju-dist/streams/v1/index.sjson, next it hits juju-dist/streams/v1/index.json | 13:44 |
| gotwig | how can I use JuJu with local support | 13:45 |
| privateStack | the process finally dies when juju tried to pull status 30 times from the control bucket | 13:45 |
| sidnei | marcoceppi: i think he needs to sync simplestreams or something? | 13:45 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig I have a blog post on it. one sec I'll dog it up | 13:45 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: the new juju? | 13:45 |
| privateStack | I have not configured keystone for any simplestreams | 13:46 |
| marcoceppi | sidnei: I think so to. which is why I wonder what the contents of the bucket is | 13:46 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: http://marcoceppi.com/2013/07/compiling-juju-and-the-local-provider/ | 13:47 |
| gotwig | yeah, thx | 13:47 |
| gotwig | *compiling* oh noes ;P | 13:47 |
| privateStack | sorry. the public bucket, juju-dist contains files I generated with juju metadata command. /juju-dist/streams/v1/index.json and /juju-dist/streams/v1/imagemetadata.json | 13:47 |
| marcoceppi | no no! you don't need to compile. is a dual post gotwig | 13:47 |
| gotwig | ok | 13:48 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: nice blog, btw | 13:48 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: could you patebin those files? | 13:48 |
| privateStack | sure. give me a sec to figure out how | 13:49 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: so all this can be found in the devel ppA? | 13:49 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: yup! | 13:50 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: some dude should update the getting started juju post for sure!! | 13:50 |
| gotwig | not everyone has clouds at home.. lol | 13:50 |
| privateStack | ok cool.. that was easy | 13:51 |
| privateStack | http://pastebin.com/kV2m4qH4 this is the first file | 13:51 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: it will be updated before mercy l next week | 13:52 |
| privateStack | here is the second, the metadata file | 13:52 |
| privateStack | http://pastebin.com/RenVerjf | 13:52 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: this is all so complex to me :/ I like juju gui... | 13:52 |
| * marcoceppi is actually writing it | 13:52 | |
| privateStack | looking at network dumps juju never request the metdata file | 13:52 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: do I have to manually edit the config YAML files to local? | 13:53 |
| privateStack | juju only request /juju-dist/streams/v1/index.sjson and then /juju-dist/streams/v1/index.json | 13:53 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: what does juju bootstrap -v look like? | 13:55 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: you need to create a local environments.yaml file if you don't have one already just run `juju init -w` | 13:56 |
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| marcoceppi | then you can juju bootstrap -e local | 13:56 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: what version of Ubuntu are you using? | 13:57 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: 13.10 :> | 13:57 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: also you can deploy the juju-gui to local once you get it bootstrapped! | 13:57 |
| gotwig | is the admin secret a md5 hash? | 13:57 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: no it's just a random strong of chats | 13:58 |
| marcoceppi | chars* | 13:58 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: I will put in paste bin | 13:58 |
| marcoceppi | it can be whatever you like | 13:58 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: thanks | 13:58 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: can I do anything with juju gui? | 13:59 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Here is juju -v sync-tools showing basic function http://pastebin.com/bUVLf21k | 14:00 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: anything you can do from cli you should be able to do in GUI | 14:00 |
| gotwig | error: environment has no access-key or secret-key | 14:01 |
| gotwig | when I want to deploy something | 14:01 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: use -e local when deploying | 14:01 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Here is the juju -v bootstrap --debug http://pastebin.com/XMwRrcW6 | 14:01 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: or change ~/.juju/environments.yaml default: to 'local' | 14:03 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: I thought you were using 1.11.4? | 14:03 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: do you think there is a need for deploying to MeteorJS? I really like this thing :> | 14:05 |
| gotwig | talking about writing a charm for deploying to meteorJS ;X | 14:05 |
| gotwig | its similar to nodeJS | 14:05 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: go for it! we can always use more charms | 14:06 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Sorry. I have tried a few versions on a few nodes. The dumps were made from a precise node running juju 1.11.4-precise-amd64 | 14:06 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: But yes, I have been running 1.11.4 | 14:08 |
| gotwig | works perfectly | 14:08 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: thank you | 14:08 |
| marcoceppi | why is all the metadata 1.10.0? | 14:09 |
| gotwig | what do I have to setup to use the nodeJS charm | 14:11 |
| gotwig | a github repo, a mongodb relation? | 14:11 |
| gotwig | *git repo | 14:12 |
| gotwig | I could just read the readme xD | 14:12 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: here are the http request that juju is making during bootstrap http://pastebin.com/HL1mnLt2 | 14:15 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Not sure why. I ran the juju sync-tools command and that is what was deployed | 14:15 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: In the past I have run the --upload-tools during the bootstrap and it will build and update newer tools. | 14:16 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: hum. | 14:17 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: It seems strange that the metadata file is never requested. | 14:22 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: yeah, is there a juju-dist directory or is /streams the root directory? | 14:23 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Here is where I am weak. I have not messed much with swift so all I know I learned for this. | 14:24 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: I created a swift container like so "swift post juju-dist" | 14:25 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: then I created a local directory /streams/v1/ and placed the two files in the directory, next I used "swift upload streams" to upload the directory tree, and finally I set the permissions on the container to allow anonymous access | 14:26 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: I confirmed through network dumps that /streams/v1/index.json is being returned to juju during bootstrap. | 14:27 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: how can I save the settings in the gui, there is no save button for changing the Config.yaml >_> | 14:28 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: the gui on jujucharms is much better than the one in the official juju charm >_> | 14:29 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: oh, deploy cs:~juju-gui/juju-gui instead of just "juju-gui" | 14:30 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Is it normal for juju to request /releases/streams/v1/index.json from cloud-images.ubuntu.com after my local site has been requested? | 14:30 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: thx | 14:30 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: thats just like with normal ubuntu >_> you all the time have to use extra repos or branches.. nothing official that is "modern"? | 14:30 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: any direction? Next step for me is digging through code or admitting defeat :) | 14:34 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: one sec. I'm checking how I did this on HP Cloud | 14:35 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Thanks so much.. OB1 your my only hope | 14:35 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: I think your problem is all the metadata is using 1.10.0, so juju-core can't match the version and doesn't go past the v1/index.json | 14:43 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Ok. Do you recommend that I use the --upload-tools option? | 14:44 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Or perhaps build the chain from source? | 14:45 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: so delete everything in the juju-dist bucket, using 1.11.4 (juju version) build the image-metadata again, upload to juju-dist, then bootstrap and upload-tools again | 14:47 |
| marcoceppi | also, paste the new image-metadata again once it's re-generated | 14:48 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Doing this now | 14:49 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack, I'm also doing this again with region 3 of HP Cloud which has not simplestream release data | 14:49 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: my tools are actually being uploaded to my control bucket not juju-dist | 14:55 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: Right, so juju-dist is just for image metadata (which is why it pulls from clouds.ubuntu.com which has all the public cloud information) | 14:56 |
| marcoceppi | your control bucket is where the tools go | 14:56 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Here is the output of "juju -v bootstrap" --debug and "juju -v bootstrap --debug --upload-tools=true" http://pastebin.com/GruGjEa7 | 15:02 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: and the new image-metadata files? | 15:03 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Here are the metadata files http://pastebin.com/LKdp8diR | 15:05 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: Those look good, just comparing to my index.json in hpcloud | 15:21 |
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| marcoceppi | privateStack: for comparison here is my index.json file for HP cloud az-3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5911507/ | 15:23 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: can you strip sensative information from your environments.yaml and paste that? | 15:23 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: jo,what is the name for the place of the daily juju-gui thing? | 15:23 |
| gotwig | I am now on windows :/ so I use instantserver.io | 15:24 |
| gotwig | they offer ubuntu servers for free, for 30 minutes X | 15:24 |
| marcoceppi | cs:~juju-gui/juju-gui | 15:24 |
| gotwig | thx | 15:24 |
| marcoceppi | so `juju deploy cs:~juju-gui/juju-gui` | 15:24 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: when does this become the normal juju-gui? does it have to get reviewed? | 15:25 |
| baudtack | are there juju packages for debian sid anymore? looks like they are gone | 15:25 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: it's technically the proper place for the juju-gui, that ~juju-gui team is maintaining the charm, I believe there is just a bug in the charmstore where it defaults to only ~charmers as being reviewed sources. I'll need to check on that though | 15:26 |
| marcoceppi | baudtack: I believe we removed juju (0.7) from debian sid as it's being depricated. I imagine when the core team is ready a juju-core version will be uploaded to sid | 15:27 |
| AskUbuntu | isnt there any descriptive step by step guide for MAAS + juju + Ceph + Openstach HA deployment? | http://askubuntu.com/q/324470 | 15:27 |
| baudtack | marcoceppi: thanks. guess i can install it by hand like a barbarian until then :-p | 15:28 |
| marcoceppi | baudtack: there shouldn't be much difference from the version in the ppa, if you need compile instructions let me know :P | 15:28 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: For a goof I install juju 1.13.0-raring-amd64, removed all buckets, then tried to bootstrap again. | 15:29 |
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| privateStack | marcoceppi: same problem as before, I will send logs | 15:29 |
| baudtack | marcoceppi: i just found out about juju today and have been using lxc for a long time. my only complaint being they were a pain in the rump when it came to network config | 15:30 |
| baudtack | sounds like juju handles all that kind of crap | 15:30 |
| baudtack | i also hate it when i want to hack on some new framework or language or something so i spend like 3 hours setting up a dev env. by that time i just don't care anymore heh. | 15:31 |
| marcoceppi | baudtack: it certainly does. So we have a local provider which will spin up lxc locally (there's still a bit more work there) then we also have containerization on actual clouds which hasn't landed just yet but is close | 15:31 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: I cant paste the Tilde (~) and idea what I can do :/? | 15:31 |
| gotwig | *any | 15:31 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: I dont' understand | 15:32 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: I cant use the tilde on command line ;P | 15:32 |
| baudtack | marcoceppi: it's almost enough to make me want to run ubuntu instead :-p | 15:33 |
| marcoceppi | baudtack: ;) | 15:33 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: I'm really not understanding how you can't use the tilde, this perplexes me | 15:33 |
| gotwig | well, some javascript stuff xD | 15:33 |
| gotwig | its a javascript terminal | 15:34 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: Here is the metadata from my build of 1.13.0-raring-amd64 http://pastebin.com/LnRRRqLH | 15:43 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: The log from juju -v bootstrap --debug --upload-tools=true is at the bottom of this post http://pastebin.com/bR12pDNh | 15:45 |
| noodles775 | hazmat, wedgwood: When you've time, here's a branch adding ansible support to charm-helpers: https://code.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/charm-helpers/ansible-support/+merge/176973 | 15:50 |
| hazmat | noodles775, sweet! | 15:50 |
| wedgwood | noodles775: Thanks! hey, I see some conflicts in the diff | 15:51 |
| noodles775 | wedgwood: let me fix that... | 15:52 |
| wedgwood | noodles775: no hurry, unfortunately. I won't be able to have a look at it today. | 15:52 |
| noodles775 | wedgwood: hah - it was because the prereq branch just landed... thanks for that! | 15:53 |
| * noodles775 merges again. | 15:53 | |
| noodles775 | wedgwood, hazmat: MP is clear again for whenever you get to it (no rush from my side... one of the great things about the charm-payload is not being dependent on your version of charm-helpers landing :-) ). | 15:56 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: is there anything else you can think of that I should try? | 16:14 |
| marcoceppi | privateStack: I'm at a loss, unfortunately. To prevent you from waiting around and banging your head somemore, email the juju list (juju@lists.ubuntu.com) with pretty much everything you've told me, the pastebins, the bootstrap output, etc someone else not online right now might be able to help | 16:16 |
| marcoceppi | This is just a reminder I need to setup MAAS and private openstack at my place to play with this more | 16:17 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: thanks for the help. I will do | 16:18 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: the gui still looks like the old one | 16:21 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: that's odd, I've used cs:~juju-gui/juju-gui to get the new one. Screenshot? | 16:22 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: it says cs:~juju-gui/precise/juju-gui-77 this is wrong? | 16:22 |
| gotwig | how can I "upgrade"? | 16:23 |
| gotwig | I removed the environment, made it new, etc :/ | 16:23 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: that's it -77 is the latest. Screenshot? | 16:23 |
| gotwig | of juju-status? | 16:23 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: of the gui | 16:25 |
| gotwig | imgur.com/cLjkUA2 | 16:26 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: ^ | 16:28 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: that looks like theh recent version | 16:34 |
| marcoceppi | what are you comparing it to? | 16:34 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: jujucharms.com | 16:36 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: try https://10.0.3.212/fullscreen/ | 16:36 |
| marcoceppi | you should see the jujucharms.com interface | 16:36 |
| gotwig | in jujucharms.com | 16:37 |
| gotwig | there is a side pane for the properties | 16:37 |
| gotwig | not a whole new view, which hides all other things | 16:37 |
| gotwig | hm | 16:39 |
| gotwig | I think it is like it is.. | 16:39 |
| gotwig | but I dont like this | 16:40 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: try https://10.0.3.212/sidebar/ for the sidebar view | 16:40 |
| gotwig | there is no scroll utton | 16:40 |
| gotwig | is it broken? | 16:40 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: could be, one sec let me deploy | 16:41 |
| gotwig | ok, now comes my question | 16:41 |
| gotwig | when I go the charm | 16:41 |
| gotwig | go ito the charm properties | 16:41 |
| gotwig | there is no save button I can see to save my changes | 16:41 |
| gotwig | and no scroll button... | 16:41 |
| gotwig | I have to use arrows to navigate | 16:41 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: no idea? | 16:50 |
| marcoceppi | gotwig: sorry, I was on a call | 16:50 |
| gotwig | the GUI is far away from elegant :/ | 16:51 |
| gotwig | after I reloged into the GUI, all my services are away :/ | 16:53 |
| gotwig | even juju status says they are running | 16:54 |
| gotwig | now I see them again | 16:55 |
| gotwig | got it running :> | 16:56 |
| gotwig | nodeJS | 16:56 |
| gotwig | thanks for your help | 16:56 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: where can I talk about juju design? | 16:57 |
| gotwig | Juju-GUI, launchpad? | 16:57 |
| marcoceppi | #juju-gui on freenode | 17:00 |
| gotwig | marcoceppi: do you use the GUI? | 17:05 |
| gotwig | I g2g, thanks. I am going to report a new bug, regarding responsive web design | 17:06 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: I have been debugging on the code level and think I might have found something interesting | 17:21 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: when I don't specify a public url in the config, juju tries to create one using my users authentication. | 17:22 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: This bucket creation process fails for the public bucket with the error: MakeServiceURL: no endpoints known for service type: juju-tools | 17:22 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: If I specify a public url this error does not occur, which makes me wonder if juju is expecting juju-tools to be under the public bucket | 17:24 |
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| arosales | hazmat: looking for some charmers to help out with the review queue, got any spare cycles for reviews? | 19:57 |
| * arosales will also email ~chamers | 19:58 | |
| gotwig | do charms always have to use debian packages | 21:07 |
| gotwig | I like to use some custom stuff | 21:08 |
| gotwig | downloading and setting up via curl | 21:08 |
| sidnei | gotwig: you can do it, no problem. not a recommended practice, but you're free to do anything you want. | 21:18 |
| gotwig | sidnei: I want that it becomes an official charm some day | 21:18 |
| sidnei | gotwig: then you might want to add an option to use debian packages and toggle to curl with a flag | 21:19 |
| sidnei | i think the policy might say something about official charms not going over the network | 21:19 |
| AskUbuntu | can we have multiple juju config files? | http://askubuntu.com/q/324604 | 21:19 |
| privateStack | Does anyone know if juju works with openstack quantum? Having problems during bootstrap with assigning a floating ip | 21:33 |
| privateStack | Juju appears to use the nova api to assign addresses | 21:33 |
| privateStack | marcoceppi: I figured out my original bootstrap problem. The metadata index.json had the wrong port listed. | 21:36 |
| gotwig | can I use juju deploy with my custom bzr branch? | 21:46 |
| sidnei | gotwig: yes you can | 21:47 |
| gotwig | and how, Obama :D? | 21:47 |
| sidnei | gotwig: if you have a dir 'charms', and your branch is under 'charms/precise/mycharm' you can do 'juju deploy --repository=charms mycharm' | 21:47 |
| gotwig | somehow this doesnt work for me | 21:47 |
| gotwig | I recheck | 21:48 |
| gotwig | error: cannot get latest charm revision: charm not found: cs:precise/meteor-app | 21:48 |
| gotwig | it tries to use the official sources, not my custom directory | 21:49 |
| gotwig | do I have to use version control or so? | 21:50 |
| sidnei | gotwig: try juju deploy --repository=charms local:mycharm | 21:50 |
| gotwig | my command is juju deploy --repository=eduard local:meteor-app -e local | 21:51 |
| gotwig | eduard is my charms dir | 21:51 |
| gotwig | error: cannot get latest charm revision: charm not found in "/home/julia/eduard": local:precise/meteor-app | 21:52 |
| gotwig | the charm dir name is meteor-app and the charm name is meteor-app | 21:54 |
| sidnei | gotwig: does eduard/precise/meteor-app exist? what's in eduard/precise/meteor-app/metadata.yaml? | 21:54 |
| gotwig | no | 21:54 |
| gotwig | I hav meteor-app in eduard | 21:55 |
| sidnei | gotwig: ah, that's it, needs to be into a dir named 'precise' ( really, whatever you have in default-series iirc) | 21:55 |
| gotwig | sucess :> | 21:56 |
| gotwig | now lets check juju-gui | 21:56 |
| gotwig | actually writting charms is really easy | 21:57 |
| gotwig | no, red line :D | 21:58 |
| gotwig | hook failed install... hm | 22:00 |
| gotwig | sidnei: where can I specify the icon for my charm? | 22:20 |
| thumper | jcastro: hey | 22:21 |
| thumper | jcastro: not sure if you have tried rebooting a running local environment yet, but I did yesterday (quite by accident) | 22:22 |
| thumper | jcastro: all came back up fine | 22:22 |
| thumper | so... yay \o/ | 22:22 |
| gotwig | how do I remove a service | 22:29 |
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| sidnei | gotwig: i think the icon is just icon.svg in the root | 23:01 |
| sidnei | gotwig: juju destroy-service? | 23:01 |
| gotwig | no | 23:01 |
| gotwig | destroy-service doesnt ermove it | 23:01 |
| gotwig | *remove | 23:01 |
| sidnei | what you mean by remove then? | 23:08 |
| bradm | fwiw I just submitted LP#1205130 for a charm for bip I wrote, any feedback would be great. | 23:22 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1205130: New charm: bip <Juju Charms Collection:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1205130> | 23:22 |
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