[03:37] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1120077] Upgrade to kde 4.10 leads to terminal related artifacts on the desktop @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1120077 (by bastafidli)
[07:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:03] <Quintasan> \o
[09:13] <Riddell> 4.11 rc2!
[09:40] <soee> Riddell, available for Kubuntu ? :)
[09:47] <Riddell> as soon as someone packages it
[09:50]  * Riddell marks alpha 2 candidate images as ready
[09:53] <lordievader> Whoo :)
[10:00] <allee_> Can someone move libkgapi2 to backports?  kdepim-runtime : Depends: libkgapi2-2 (>= 2.0.1) but it is not installable
[10:03] <Riddell> allee: what release?
[10:03] <allee> raring
[10:04] <Riddell> installing 4.10.5?
[10:04] <allee> argl 4.10.95 so not backports but beta repo
[10:04] <allee> sorry
[10:07] <allee> more raring 4.10.95 missing deps:
[10:08] <allee> nepomuk-core-runtime : Depends: libnepomukcore4abi1 (= 4:4.10.95-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1) but 4:4.10.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 is to be installed
[10:08] <allee>                         Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.9.3) but 2.9.2+dfsg1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 is to be installed
[10:08] <yofel> hm, not everything was copied it seems
[10:09] <Riddell> hang on I'll get onto it
[10:09] <yofel> Riddell: I'm on it
[10:09] <Riddell> ok thanks
[10:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, yofel: http://paste.kde.org/pe447d49f/
[10:09] <apachelogger> when cleaning a not completely built qtwebkit....
[10:10] <yofel> I did not finish that package
[10:10] <yofel> so dunno ^^
[10:10] <apachelogger> given the shittyness of qtwebkit I'll advocate building it outside the qt5 mono source
[10:10] <apachelogger> it will only break stuff
[10:10] <yofel> er, that's what I was working on
[10:10] <yofel> you don't want to build that with the rest of qt
[10:15] <apachelogger> right
[10:15] <apachelogger> but you did not finish it, so I am doing it :P
[10:15] <apachelogger> cuz lunchpad is a drag and kdelibs is broken
[10:17] <allee> At least for my raring pkg selection libkgapi2 2.0.1 and soprano 2.9.3 pkgs are missing in beta repo
[10:22] <yofel> allee: they're waiting to be published, will be there soon
[10:23] <TheOneRing> I tried to update to kde-4.11 beta 2 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-applications-411-beta-2
[10:23] <TheOneRing> no something went wrong mor or less all packages wehre remove
[10:23] <TheOneRing> when i now try to install kubuntu-desktop it complains about unmet dependencies
[10:23] <TheOneRing> and dist-pgreade keeps back 3 nepomuk packages
[10:24] <apachelogger> TheOneRing: packages have not bee completely published disabling apt to build a complete dependency chain on beta2
[10:24] <allee> yofel: Thx! 
[10:24] <apachelogger> yofel: didn't we want to use staging ppas to prevent that? :O
[10:25] <Riddell> apachelogger: we did I just forgot to copy some packages :(
[10:25] <TheOneRing> hmpf great
[10:26] <TheOneRing> hm wouldnt it not be possible to make apt-get atleast warn in that case :P
[10:26] <TheOneRing> before removing everything
[10:27] <apachelogger> TheOneRing: it does that, if you choose to ignore what apt tells you, that is your problem :P
[10:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: so how can we prevent that? script? don't we have a script?
[10:28]  * apachelogger just noticed that he is building qtwebkit in a tmpfs
[10:28] <apachelogger> may be a really bad idea
[10:29] <Riddell> apachelogger: I just used copy-packages from ubuntu-dev-tools
[10:29] <Riddell> apachelogger: a scipt that runs copy packages on the kdesc and other bits would be good but I don't know if the other bits are reliably known
[10:29]  * yofel doesn't copy-packages because it has no way to copy *everything*
[10:29] <apachelogger> yofel: do we have a better script?
[10:30] <yofel> I once wrote kopypackages (in kubuntu-dev-tools)
[10:30] <yofel> *could* use some improvements, but it works for me
[10:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: with staging I'd argue that as soon as everything in $pocket is built&published everything should be copied
[10:30] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes that sounds scriptable
[10:31] <apachelogger> someone create a trello card please
[10:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: I mind we used to have a script that was then dropped in favour of copy-package from ubuntu-dev-tools
[10:31] <apachelogger> my qtwebkit just failed -.-
[10:36] <yofel> copy-package has much better command design than kopypackages so it usually is what you want to use. But it's missing the batch processing 
[10:36] <yofel> so either one needs a script that lists all packages in a given archive for a release so that can be fed into copy-package, or one improves copy-package to operate on more than one package at a time
[10:59]  * Riddell runs ./kubuntu-initial-upload -d saucy -v 4.10.97 -m "New upstream RC 2 release" -t ~/src/4.10.97
[10:59] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/c/kpN1Nh2S/10-create-copy-package-script
[10:59] <azeem_>  
[11:00] <azeem_> oops
[11:00]  * azeem_ waves to allee 
[11:13] <allee>  /me waves gladly surprised back to azeem_
[12:59] <apachelogger> hm
[12:59] <apachelogger> yofel: for some reason syncqt didn't autorun
[12:59] <apachelogger> it's a big surprise that one :P
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: syncqt?
[13:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: tqcnys?
[13:38] <shadeslayer> :/
[13:39] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[14:26] <apachelogger> yofel: triggered qtwebkit
[14:29] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:58] <Riddell> ScottK: I'm rejecting your kubuntu-meta and kubuntu-settings uploads, I think more discussion is needed on them
[15:24] <Riddell> Quintasan: I get no problems doing a dist-upgrade in raring for the kscreen in -proposed bug 1195806
[15:41] <ScottK> Riddell: ok
[15:44] <Riddell> agateau: won't kde-max-width mess up high res displays?
[15:44] <Riddell> but then high res displays are probably screwed up already
[15:45] <agateau> Riddell: It should help keeping lines short. But I recon the max width should be defined according to dpi these days
[15:47] <Riddell> I see gnome got some high res machines sponsored by intel, might be good for kde to ask for the same
[15:47] <Riddell> agateau: what's the def _create_webview(self): method about?
[15:47] <Riddell> just refactoring?
[15:47] <agateau> Riddell: yes
[15:48] <agateau> Riddell: would be nice to get hdpi display indeed :)
[16:07] <Riddell> agateau: comment added about dpi issue and merged and uploaded, also done ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[16:07] <agateau> Riddell: thanks!
[16:15] <Riddell> agateau: probably best if xnox looks at ~agateau/ubiquity/nm-split as there's a bunch of gtk code changes
[16:16] <agateau> Riddell: yes, I assigned the team as reviewer, hoping someone would chime in, but so far it has not happened
[16:16] <agateau> Riddell: I guess it's holiday time everywhere
[17:16]  * Riddell prepares https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/13.10-alpha-2
[17:20] <soee> yo
[17:20] <soee> Riddell, i have question
[17:21] <soee> on one PC i have installed Arch and have free partition ready for Kubuntu, is Alpha 2 stable enought to use it ?
[17:22] <lordievader> soee: In my opinion Alpha 2 is quite stable :D
[17:23] <soee> lordievader, you wouldnt lie to me  ? :)
[17:23] <Riddell> soee: yeah alpha 2 is pretty good
[17:24] <soee> Riddell, will Kubuntu and its grub find my Arch system ?
[17:24] <lordievader> Let me put it differently, for me it is stable enough. Haven't seen many crashes ;)
[17:25] <Riddell> soee: I hope so yes
[17:25] <soee> Ok downloading
[18:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I think we can remove the black screen issue from the list of known issues
[18:09] <shadeslayer> was fixed in RC1 I think
[18:09] <soee> whats the name of the package to create bootable usb ?
[18:10] <shadeslayer> usb-creator
[18:16] <lordievader> Or unetbootin, but that is not installed by default.
[18:18] <soee> yeah i go for unetbootin
[18:25] <ScottK> usb-creator works pretty well for me.
[19:47] <soee> yo :)
[19:47] <soee> Riddell, 
[19:48] <soee> i have installed 13.10 a2 without any problems (i had to only update Arch grub as Kubuntu entry was not seen)
[19:53] <lordievader> soee: Yayy :D
[19:55] <soee> do you know if there is .deb with copy.com app ?
[20:04] <Quintasan> あああああああ
[20:04] <Quintasan> omfg
[20:04] <Quintasan> fcitx works as expected
[20:04] <Quintasan> with kimpanel integration working
[20:04] <Quintasan> YES
[20:04] <Quintasan> YES
[21:41] <Riddell> Quintasan: impressive
[21:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh good to know
[21:46] <Riddell> voila http://www.kubuntu.org/news/13.10-alpha-2
[21:59] <Quintasan> Riddell: If I get some testing done I belive we could get rid of ibus by 14.04
[22:30] <Riddell> Quintasan: ooh interesting
[22:32] <Quintasan> I was expecting a question but this is fine too
[22:32] <Quintasan> Anyways, we won't have to pull gtk stuff for ibus and we get better integration IMO
[22:33] <Quintasan> At least it works with KIMPanel out of box
[22:33] <Quintasan> I never managed to get ibus working with it.
[22:36] <Quintasan> hmm
[22:36] <Quintasan> It even has a KCM
[22:36] <Quintasan> I'm sold
[22:43] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1204182] Locale wrongly defaults to en_US.UTF8 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1204182 (by Graeme Hewson)
[23:13] <Riddell> Quintasan: why not for 13.10?
[23:13] <Riddell> Quintasan: do you know what languages and input methods it supports compared to ibus?
[23:13] <Riddell> where's smartboy when you need him?
[23:34] <Quintasan> doh
[23:36] <Quintasan> Riddell: Theoretically I want to go bed. As for your question: In raring there is no package for Anthy (Japanese) support, but I don't think this is a major problem since there is mozc backend support which works just as good if not better
[23:36] <Quintasan> I'm also sure there are Korean, Chinese backends.
[23:37] <Quintasan> Riddell: Theoretically we could do it for 13.10 but I'd have to get someone else to test that.
[23:37]  * Quintasan -> bed