[00:01] <sithlord48> MichaelP:  do you mean install a program without also install the additional recommended packages
[00:03] <wxl> MichaelP: it may actually be that the default server is slow. find a faster server and you can remap the default FQDN to the ip of the faster server in /etc/hosts
[00:08] <MichaelP> wxl: sithlord48: down speed is perfect... I had set something years ago.. that took things away.. Where apt-get did not do 3 different things. like unpacking selecting.. setting up... where it just installed packages faster... like how pacman downloads.. a 1 process install
[00:08] <sithlord48> MichaelP:  it has to do those things. they are the install steps.
[00:09] <fractaline> ok, i'm in trouble...i did an apt-get update and lost desktop effects, i then installed qt graphics backend config to change backend and now i have almost no plasma or kwin... i have a black screen.   i have this window and chrome as they were the last ones open when i rebooted.  i can  use krunner but it's not successfully opening anything.   i can't open terminal with hotkey either..
[00:10] <MichaelP> sithlord48: i remember back at like 10.04 100.10 dev's told me how to configure it to install like that
[00:10] <sithlord48> fractaline: can you run plasma-desktop via your krunner?
[00:12] <fractaline> no response...
[00:13] <sithlord48> fractaline: have you tried restarting lightdm?  (alt+crtl+ F1 to move to tty then run sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart)
[00:13] <fractaline> last i checked i could log in as guest and i had some semblance of desktop so i was thinking to examine my .kde folder
[00:14] <fractaline> sithlord48,  i will try now .. thanks
[00:14] <sithlord48> fractaline: umm i think i got something else
[00:14] <fractaline> ok
[00:17] <sithlord48> fractaline:  you can change your graphics config bac to raster
[00:17] <sithlord48> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?41914-A-Lighter-Faster-(-)-Plasma&p=238938&viewfull=1#post238938
[00:18] <fractaline> i can't as yet .. i haven't been able to start anything from krunner
[00:19] <fractaline> if i log in as guest could i do it manually  in my .kde from there?
[00:21] <sithlord48> fractaline:  you can try QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=raster plasma-desktop in krunner. see if that works, if its your Qt setting
[00:23] <fractaline> will do,  i've always used raster
[00:24] <fractaline> nothing
[00:25] <sithlord48> fractaline: what did you switch your backend to ?
[00:25] <fractaline> x11 then back to opengl
[00:26] <sithlord48> have you loged out since the change?
[00:26] <fractaline> yes, i've rebooted several times
[00:28] <sithlord48> fractaline: you can do the graphics setting change from a tty as your user.
[00:29] <sithlord48> fractaline:  use echo "export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=raster" > ~/.kde/env/qt-graphicssystem.sh
[00:29] <fractaline> ok i'm pretty new to tty
[00:30] <sithlord48> fractaline:  you have several of them and you can change between them using alt+ctrl and F1 - F8  (or more ) F7 i usually the desktop .
[00:31] <sithlord48> fractaline:  other then that is just a terminal interface .
[00:33] <frac> sithlord48: can you show me that command again...
[00:34] <sithlord48> fractaline: use echo "export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=raster" > ~/.kde/env/qt-graphicssystem.sh
[00:34] <sithlord48> fractaline:  sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart (to restart lightdm)
[00:35] <frac> Do I need root?  For the first one?
[00:35] <sithlord48> no because you want it in your user folder
[00:35] <frac> Right
[00:38] <frac> Should I do both?
[00:42] <frac> Nice
[00:54] <fractaline> sithlord48,   thank you,  those commands worked.  i got the black screen again upon switching back to opengl...  so it seems that it is borked for me atm...
[00:54] <sithlord48> fractaline: glad to hear
[00:55] <fractaline> there was a heap of kde stuff in the update that i did just before all this.   it seems there is a driver issue
[00:55] <fractaline> yeah man...   thanks heaps!
[00:55] <fractaline> saved me
[00:58] <fractaline> when i lost desktop efffects, the error said it could not load compositing most likely due to a driver issue... how can i check on this?
[01:06] <sithlord48> fractaline: can you run glxgears?
[01:17] <fractaline> sithlord48, how exactly?
[01:17] <sithlord48> glxgears in konsole
[01:18] <fractaline> need to install first
[01:18] <sithlord48> ok
[01:20] <fractaline> puddle@puddle-Satellite-L500:~$ glxgears
[01:20] <fractaline> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[01:20] <fractaline>   Major opcode of failed request:  154 (GLX)
[01:20] <fractaline>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[01:20] <fractaline>   Serial number of failed request:  12
[01:20] <FloodBotK1> fractaline: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <fractaline>   Current serial number in output stream:  12
[01:20] <sithlord48> do u know what kind of video card you have in that thing ?
[01:20] <fractaline> intel
[01:21] <sithlord48> do u know what packages you removed eariler?
[01:22] <sithlord48> oh you did an update.. (sorry ) . you might want to try sudo apt-get update
[01:22] <fractaline> hmmm.  i did do auto remove...     i thought it was mostly old kernels...   :/
[01:22] <sithlord48> fractaline:  do u know what video card  from intel
[01:23] <fractaline> i forgot hold on
[01:23] <sithlord48> fractaline:  yea it should be , was thinking maybe a broken package but if you can install stuff thats not the case.
[01:26] <fractaline> whats the command to list hardware specs?
[01:26] <sithlord48> lshw
[01:28] <sithlord48> find you display section looks like this http://pastebin.com/ShqKBYpV
[01:29] <fractaline> yep got that
[01:30] <fractaline> http://privatepaste.com/9728cd0111
[01:33] <sithlord48> fractaline:  i have this in my netbook iirc. effects work fine except for blur . disable blur and maybe try again.
[01:41] <GiGaHuRtZ> BluesKaj: you around?
[01:46] <GiGaHuRtZ> Im having that kubuntu time gloitch, even on 13.10
[01:46] <GiGaHuRtZ> I dont remember exactly whazt I did to fix it
[01:47] <GiGaHuRtZ> Current UTC is at the right time, and UTC is 4 hours behind (EDT should be 4 hours behind UTC, not the other way arround)
[01:48] <GiGaHuRtZ> finally got it right
[01:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> hopefully oit stays
[03:20] <GiGaHuRtZ> guess my time fiux didnt stick
[03:20] <GiGaHuRtZ> \dangi8t
[03:21] <GiGaHuRtZ> ]this is quitew the popular problem it seems im not doing it in the right steps
[07:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:56] <cseviciu> hello
[07:57] <lordievader> Hey cseviciu, how are you?
[07:57] <cseviciu> wandering around to see whats new :D
[10:20] <TheOneRing> I tried to update to kde-4.11 beta 2 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-applications-411-beta-2
[10:21] <TheOneRing> no something went wrong mor or less all packages wehre remove
[10:22] <TheOneRing> when i now try to install kubuntu-desktop it complains about unmet dependencies
[10:22] <TheOneRing> and dist-pgreade keeps back 3 nepomuk packages
[10:23] <lordievader> TheOneRing: I believe someone in #kubuntu-devel has exactly the same problem, you might want to ask around there.
[10:23] <TheOneRing> thx
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:29] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:37] <Riddell> hi lordievader, I declaired the images ok thanks for your help
[14:38] <lordievader> Riddell: I saw that is great :D. Hope the two oem bug get fixed before beta 1 arrives.
[15:09] <kaffeebohne> hi. Just one quick question: Is the kde-version in the latest version of kubuntu the latest stable kde? Or is there a "lag" between kubuntu and kde?
[15:28] <Guest35138> Hi , I am getting an error : CMake 2.8.11 or higher is required.  You are running version 2.8.9 I am using kubuntu12.04 ,how may I upgrade cmake ?
[15:33] <tsimpson> stack3457: you could get it from the project neon PPA https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/kf5  the only other source is saucy (the development version)
[15:33] <tsimpson> or you can build it yourself
[15:34] <tsimpson> if you use the PPA, it's probably a good idea to remove the PPA after you upgrade cmake
[15:34] <stack3457> @timpson I actually need to build framework5/plasma2 if you could suggest something for that also?
[15:36] <tsimpson> stack3457: well the PPA I posted is for KDE Frameworks 5
[15:36] <tsimpson> so you could just use that
[15:38] <Guest54692> ciao
[15:48] <BlaXpirit> wait what
[15:48] <BlaXpirit> KDE 5 is available?
[15:50] <tsimpson> BlaXpirit: it's not released, but development code is available from git
[15:50] <BlaXpirit> well  yes, obviously it's not released
[15:51] <BlaXpirit> but I didn't realize it was actively worked on
[15:51] <BlaXpirit> let alone some preview versions being available
[15:52] <tsimpson> it's not a preview version, it's from git
[15:53] <BlaXpirit> ... that's not my point
[15:55] <amundsen> did anyone install the NitrusOs icon theme in Kubuntu ?
[16:23] <himanshu> Hi everyone!
[16:24] <himanshu> where are list of all keyboard-shortcuts? eg. terminal ctrl+alt+t in ubuntu
[16:25] <himanshu> i am using kubuntu 13.04
[16:26] <cahir> i guess system settings>Schortcuts and gestures
[16:27] <tsimpson> himanshu: System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures
[16:30] <himanshu> tsimpson: i can't find terminal listed there
[16:31] <himanshu> tsimpson: what's the default keyboard shortcut to launch terminal(konsole)?
[16:31] <tsimpson> there is no default for that
[16:31] <tsimpson> look under the Examples "folder"
[16:32] <tsimpson> there's one called "Run Konsole"
[16:33] <himanshu> tsimpson: what does that mean? which key combination would run konsole or how to set it up
[16:34] <cahir> himanshu: Nevertheless, i strongly reccomend you to check out guake  program.
[16:35] <vedu> hello. I am facing problems updating/ installing software using apt-get. It always gets stuck at "waiting for headers"
[16:36] <himanshu> cahir: where is it?
[16:52] <cahir> Hello, trying to do some google reasearch but can't find anything on subject of window decorations. I've downloaded a custom window decoration. Yet, i'd like to modify some textures (colorise). I tried to change this with inkscape, but even though i save this, nothing ever changes. Are these somehow precompiled? Where can i learn about this?
[17:00] <cahir> Hello, trying to do some google reasearch but can't find anything on subject of window decorations. I've downloaded a custom window decoration. Yet, i'd like to modify some textures (colorise). I tried to change this with inkscape, but even though i save this, nothing ever changes. Are these somehow precompiled? Where can i learn about this?
[17:01] <cahir> (using aurorae)
[17:08] <OerHeks> baltolkien__, fix your connection please
[17:23] <Kitt3n> The trash bin is empty but I can't delete any files, Dolphin just tells me the trash bin is full
[17:23] <Kitt3n> Help?....
[17:28] <genii> Kitt3n: Perhaps try some of the recommendations at http://askubuntu.com/questions/171596/kde-waste-bin-issues
[17:31] <Kitt3n> genii, tried both the trash-cli and removing the files from the Trash directory, still can't delete files with Dolphin
[17:33] <genii> Kitt3n: If it's due to the other issue of your had filling up, perhaps  sudo apt-get clean or sudo apt-get autoclean to see if it frees up some room
[17:34] <genii> hard drive, not "had" intended there, typo :)
[17:35] <Kitt3n> Still nothing. "The trash has reached it's maximum size! Clean the trash manually."
[17:36] <Kitt3n> Dolphin says there's 0 files
[17:55] <genii> Kitt3n: In between doing the other operations, did you at some point make sure to close dolphin and then open it again to get a refreshed look?
[17:56] <Kitt3n> genii, yah, no change
[17:59] <genii> Kitt3n: What does: df -h  say, as far as how much space you have?
[18:00] <genii> ( aplogies on lag, work is very busy and taking me from the computer often)
[18:01] <Kitt3n> dev/sda1 148 GB available space ( SSD and / ) and dev/sdb1 1,3 TB available space (/home)
[18:06] <stack3457> Hi , http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Y3QSscR3 on building frameworks branch of kdelibs. as mentioned here http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building/Details I am getting error (as shown in pastebin)
[18:17] <poee> hi, I removed wine using sudo apt-get remove wine1.6 and removed the .wine folder. But when trying to reinstall its not, properly. help?
[18:18] <lordievader> poee: Try removing the config files too: "sudo apt-get purge wine". Before installing again.
[18:19] <kaffeebohne> Puh, wer hat mir gerade bei meinem Boot-Problem geholfen? ^^
[18:20] <lordievader> !german | kaffeebohne
[18:20] <kaffeebohne> Oh, sorry, forgot the -de lordievader!
[18:20] <lordievader> kaffeebohne: No problem ;)
[18:21] <poee> lordievader, it doesn't install properly. A .wine folder is not created
[18:22] <lordievader> poee: Been a while since I had wine installed but isn't that folder generated when somethin is ran with wine?
[18:22] <poee> hmm
[18:22] <poee> it should install as such.
[18:23] <lordievader> poee: Run winecfg and see if the folder is created.
[18:23] <poee> got it , one sec
[18:24] <genii> Kitt3n: Yeah, so looks like low space isn't the issue in this case, but something else. Perhaps manually set ~/.kde/share/config/trashrc line of: Empty=false    (assuming that's what it has currently)  to: Empty=true ...may have to clear all the files in /var/tmp/kdecache-<your-sername/  and logoff-logon to take effect
[18:25] <stack3457>  Hi , I am getting http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Y3QSscR3 on building framework branch of kdelibs , I had build qt5 as mentioned here http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building but qt version is still 4.8 on my kubuntu .suggestions?
[18:27] <poee> lordievader, it works. Thank you
[18:27] <lordievader> poee: Good to hear that. No problem ;)
[18:28] <genii> stack3457: Do you have  	qtbase5-dev installed?
[18:28] <poee> linux is the best!
[18:29] <lordievader> poee: :D
[18:30] <stack3457> @genii http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fFjdC5X9 error
[18:32] <genii> stack3457: Looks like you have broken dependencies from ppa there :-/
[18:32] <stack3457> :-/ so now?
[18:33] <genii> stack3457: Try what it suggests.eg: sudo apt-get -f install
[18:34] <stack3457> I did that as you can see in pastebin link
[18:35] <genii> stack3457: You put the packagename, try without the "qtbase5-dev" at the end
[18:38] <stack3457> @genii http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pSkb8gMX
[18:40] <stack3457> @genii could you suggest how to solve broken qt5 package from ppa ? may be that will help to get qt version as 5.0
[18:45] <Kitt3n> genii, the trashrc empty is set to true
[18:47] <genii> stack3457: Manually tracking dependecies is... to put it bluntly... a pain in the ass
[18:49] <genii> stack3457: Plus which, any repositories which are not official *buntu ones are unsupported
[18:49] <stack3457> so now?
[18:51] <genii> stack3457: If the deb packages it says it can't install are still in your /var/cache/apt/archives directory, you could chance to force them with sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/<packagename-here>
[18:53] <lordievader> I have a feeling this is not going to end in sunshine and happiness.
[18:54] <stack3457> it has a lot of libqt5... .deb  files
[18:54] <stack3457> @lordievader :P please dont say evil , I need to build framework5/plasma2
[18:56] <lordievader> What strikes me as odd is that you are trying to build something very new on old software. I suppose you'd have a better change doing this on Saucy then on Precise.
[18:57] <stack3457> So I should use kubuntu 13.04 for this?
[18:58] <lordievader> stack3457: I'm not sure but I think it would be easier on 13.10. Mind you I might as well be wrong.
[18:58] <lordievader> Raring = 13.04, Saucy = 13.10
[19:01]  * stack3457 feels I should use 13.04 for framework5
[19:02] <lordievader> stack3457: Why do you need it anyway?
[19:02] <stack3457> framework5/plasma2?
[19:02] <lordievader> Yes.
[19:03] <stack3457> My gsoc project involves porting to plasma2 .I have ported trashcan and window list till now to plasma1 :p these need to be ported to plasma2
[19:04] <lordievader> Ah a gsoc project, nice. Isn't there by any change a framework5/plasma2 channel around on freenode?
[19:04] <stack3457> I dont think so
[19:12] <stack3457> @lordievader So to build framework5 plasma2 I need to have plasma-framework build and the other packages required for plasma-framework like framework branch of kdelibs , what else is needed?
[19:14] <lordievader> stack3457: I have no idea, never done anything like that. I just let my mind wander. It might be that they know in #kde.
[19:16]  * stack3457 hopes everthing works peacfully without crashing on 13.04 _/\_
[19:17] <lordievader> I make no promises.
[19:35] <OerHeks> Hey :-D
[20:45] <benbloom> what is the program(s) that takes care of auto mounting in KDE? (ie usb flash etc)
[20:45] <benbloom> i should say, in Kubuntu
[21:27] <stack3457>  kubutnu13.04 has cmake version 2.8.10.1 how can I upgrade it to 2.8.11 ?
[21:32]  * stack3457 feels people have slept now 
[21:45] <cahir> Hello,  i am trying to modify window decorations. I'vee made some changes in .svg files of window decoration i am using. How can i restart windows for a visible change? i tried command kwin --replace and  kbuildsycoca4 && kquitapp plasma-desktop && kstart plasma-desktop but nothing changes
[22:14] <fractaline> morning
[23:33] <Kitt3n> Dolphin can't delete files and just says the trash bin is full, but it's empty.
[23:33] <Kitt3n> Help..?