[00:04] /clear [00:04] oops [06:48] morning all [06:48] \o [07:17] Morning all [07:37] morning diplo how goes it [07:40] Not to bad thanks, very busy but otherwise good. Yourself MooDoo ? [07:48] diplo: yeah, just reading up on openstack [08:00] For some reason my inkscape hangs shortly after opening. [08:00] anyway to trace what is going on? [08:00] strace [08:00] ta [08:01] ga [08:01] had this problem before :( [08:01] its hanging trying to look at some files on my iphone which is not connected. [08:08] I want to play with that MooDoo, got no hardware to play with now :( [08:08] diplo: me neither at the moment, but I'm getting two shiney new machines at christmas then I'll set up a lab at home. [08:09] I've just got my server/san setup at work though after a year ( very old ) but it works [08:10] What I'd really like is to pop to a site where someone is using it, see how someone utilises stuff properly, I've always self taught with no best practises type of working [08:10] I'd love to see a proper setup at some point. [08:11] yeah i'm just wanting to play, the more I can learn the better i can pop into a new career [08:12] Exactly what I was thinking, about to start with puppet over the next few days as well === SuperMatt is now known as SuperGeorge [08:27] Good morning all, happy Louise Brown Day! :-D === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:30] who? [08:30] was she the first tt baby? [08:30] i had a fascinating facts bok when i was 5 [08:32] mungbean, spot on. :) [08:32] good morning everyone, [08:34] if i t remeber rightly, no googling, born 1980 or 1981? [08:34] april comes to mind though, maybe that was her middle name? [08:36] mungbean, she's 35 today. [08:38] does she have any children herself? [08:38] Not sure where the April is coming from, though. Her middle name is Joy and her parents are Lesley and John. [08:38] She does - she gave birth to a son in 2006. [08:39] these are 30+ yr old memories so i'm a bit (c)rusty... [08:40] I was a bit young to even notice at the time. :) [08:40] i was one of these children who liked reading encyclpaedia === joseph is now known as jlebrech [08:43] Nothing wrong with that, mungbean. Though I used to do the same, so I might be a bit biased. [08:45] I'm still like that now, always reading up about something, trying to absorb information, learn new stuff. [08:45] I think that's pretty much the summary of a geek. :) [08:46] INTJ? [08:46] I think I came out INTP last time. [08:46] But borderline on a couple. [08:47] an overriding feature of intj is deep diving into subjects and mastering them [08:47] but may be common to INTP too [08:48] Different tests put me in INTP or INTJ [08:48] I should look up my results, actually. I've still got them here somewhere. [08:48] so I guess I'm in the middle on the J/P spectrum [08:49] there's no crossover though, you are one or the other [08:49] although it is spectral too :P [08:49] Or just take another Myers Briggs test, I'm sure there are loads online. [08:50] intj are supposedly quite rare, which is weird as i work in IT and very many people in IT or on irc seem to be itnj [08:50] i hardly know any extroverts [08:50] and dislike a lot of them :P [08:52] * JamesTait nods knowingly. [08:57] all the 675 phones gone then [08:57] What's the point to those tests, apart from curiosity? [08:57] I've never done one [08:58] it helps you realte with other people types [08:58] helps my wife understand me [08:58] we did something a bit like that with HR from work, but it was not quite as scientific as the Beano [08:58] but it was a different scheme [08:59] and when a loud person is blurting out their uninformed opinion and making decisions based on feelings you can understand why they are doing it [08:59] I don't have a massive problem with that at the moment, but I suppose if I get 10 minutes... [08:59] also if yuo have bright INTJ type in your workplace, you should use them for troubleshooting and ways to imporve systems [09:00] because they are hardwired to improve, become specialists and find efficiencies [09:00] so it helps to understand types [09:01] also in relationships the five love languages is essential to understand. i thought it was airy fariy touchy feely, but itsvery useful to know [09:02] Hmmm. :-) [09:02] Gosh - Just seem ebuyer's daily mail. Almost a 1TB SSD for £450.00. A few years ago I spent that on a 32GB one. [09:04] still costs as much as a laptop :D [09:10] TheOpenSourcerer: link? [09:10] 450? wow that's cheap for a TV [09:10] TB [09:11] http://www.ebuyer.com/497437-crucial-960gb-m500-ssd-ct960m500ssd1 [09:11] it's about average for a TV. :P [09:12] lol [09:12] TheOpenSourcerer: oooh [09:12] TheOpenSourcerer: have you tried the Dark Roast yet? :) [09:13] Dark Roast SSDs? [09:13] mgdm: beer [09:14] mgdm: do you not keep up with his posts ;) [09:14] MooDoo: nope :) [09:14] went into home bargains last night and they had some aswesome deals on model kits. got £50 worth of kits for £15 [09:15] MartijnVdS: Yes - unfortunately I didn't take any pictures. It was better than I expected it to be. Nowhere near as "syrupy" as some dark beers and still rather refreshing. I'll try and do a quick write up over the weekend. [09:15] TheOpenSourcerer: cool :) [09:19] hm [09:19] do i want an Enterprise off-the-shelf NAS, or a regular supermicro with too many hotswap bays on it? [09:19] for you or company? [09:19] company [09:20] i vote the former [09:20] price isn't a factor. management overhead is [09:20] get a proper nas not a self built one [09:20] what is the budget and capacity? [09:21] budget is whatever i tell our accountant i need. capacity... ~20T region? plus or minus, given redundancy etc? [09:22] directhex: look at the synology boxes [09:22] i'm thinking more equallogic or ibm v7000 [09:23] iscsi, fc, SAS? [09:23] i want one of these - http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS412%2B&lang=uk [09:23] or a mini netapps [09:23] or even http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS1513%2B&lang=uk [09:24] MooDoo, had been looking at RS3413xs+ [09:24] mungbean, SATA, NAS. i don't need FC or SAS or iSCSI [09:24] directhex: even better :D [09:25] thecus N12000PRO? [09:27] oh, "encrypted volumes" is a requirement [09:37] woo! the lovely nagstamon guy has added indicator support! [09:39] nastygram? [09:40] Oh! I've been meaning to look into that for weeks === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [09:41] https://github.com/HenriWahl/Nagstamon [09:42] and it's just a python script so there's nothing to compile :D === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [10:01] oh wow, android 4.3 is gonna have selinux [10:02] 'Why is my phone not working?' 'setenforce 0' 'Oh, now it's fine!" [10:02] lol [10:04] Hiiiii [10:09] * SuperGeorge chortles at mgdm [10:09] DooMoo:How to run apache tomcat 7 as service in ubuntu could you tel me please [10:13] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-apache-tomcat-on-ubuntu-12-04 [10:13] oh they have left. [10:13] dvrr: check link above [10:15] will check [10:15] i will check [10:27] basically all the people who search my linkedin profile are in india [10:28] or spammers [10:28] I get about 2 recruiters a week at the moment [10:28] or maybe they're in love with you [10:28] mgdm: them, I tell to eff off [10:29] make sure you don't have 'seeking employment' at the bottom of your profile [10:29] caught me out [10:29] neuro: I just ignore 'em [10:29] ah, I probably do [10:29] (or whatever it says" [10:29] cos i had one agency drone telling me that the only reason she got in touch was because it said "seeking employment" or whatever [10:30] changed it tout suite [10:30] i don't mind contact via linkedin [10:30] then told her to eff off :) [10:30] but using my name to then search the company directory to spam me other junk is out of order [10:30] lol [10:30] classy [10:30] and i get random emails "Bert and Ron" [10:30] Bert and Ron are LInux contractors lkooking for work and are CRB checked [10:30] "Bert and Ron you're my heroes" [10:30] i'm not hiring [10:31] please take me off your list according the data protection law [10:31] nope [10:31] wait [10:32] why would you need to be crb checked to do a linux job? [10:32] you don't [10:32] like, why make a point of it? [10:32] but its the random crap i gt from agencies [10:32] yeah [10:32] someone gave them my name last year, i suspect a contractor i the company [10:32] unlucky [10:32] and now its got on the agency grapevine [10:32] <^2fC> How to I update instead of waiting for it to? [10:32] <^2fC> Ubuntu 13.04 that is. [10:32] <^2fC> Desktop! [10:32] can i just say though [10:32] https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/disclosure-and-barring-service [10:32] that is an awesome pic [10:33] +1 [10:33] ^2fC: just run the update manager? [10:33] <^2fC> ah ok :) [10:33] erm [10:33] are you on 13.04 already, you just wanna update the packages? [10:34] my problem is making the stupid update manager window go away [10:34] <^2fC> mungbean: yeah :) [10:36] i (heart) open government [10:36] https://www.gov.uk/performance/dashboard [10:38] it is a snake eating an elephant! [10:38] Ello peeps :) [10:39] that was an entirely average Wednesday, it seems [10:39] <^2fC> updating drivers [10:39] <^2fC> not using Open source ones anytmore [10:39] <^2fC> :o [10:39] <^2fC> seems to crash my doom3 and quake4 [10:40] how quick is unity at showing files just created? [10:40] what i love about synapse is that you save to a file gc1.png, then then dialog closes, and rather than prodding through nautilus, ctrl-space gc1 ...opens *bosh* [10:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jN8LC1aDpk [10:50] Morning all [10:50] yo [10:50] lo [10:54] popey: If you're awake, what was that disposable email address service you mentioned a couple of months back [10:54] mailinator? [10:55] mungbean: popey: Thanks, I'm pretty sure that was it [10:55] i sometimes use the swedish version [10:56] because less likely to get blocked by sites [10:59] * DJones looks at an invoice at work and wonders if there 'A Lord Satin Wheels' are a sideline for TheOpenSourcerer [11:10] hello [11:11] arc__: hello :) [11:11] it is a bit quite in here today :( [11:11] MAKE SOME NOOOOISE [11:12] YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [11:12] I'm done with making noise now [11:12] I can't keep it up [11:12] I'm too old for this gumph [11:12] I am makeing a vid for youtube at the moment [11:12] I'm just migrating some sites from one box to another [11:13] how to install adb in ubuntu [11:13] how do i clear the screen in terminal [11:13] "reset" [11:13] ctrl l [11:13] ^L [11:13] cool thanz [11:13] and apt-get install android-tools-adb [11:14] no that does not do it all [11:14] it has more manual stuff to do [11:14] that is why i am makeing a vid on ut [11:14] define "all" [11:15] define "define" [11:15] SuperGeorge: i know that feeling [11:15] i'm doing an emergency 8.04 -> 12.04 migration this w/e [11:15] why [11:15] because reasons [11:16] directthex: that command does not work anyway [11:16] neuro: ah, this isn't an emergency, it's just a happening [11:16] because we can [11:16] :) [11:16] I've been messing with nameservers this week [11:16] mine is due to a mate who bailed on doing it :( [11:17] I've been moving zones one at a time from one server to another [11:17] and the colo contract runs out on wednesday :P [11:17] eesh! [11:17] that doesn't sound any of the funs [11:17] pain in the bum, but needs to happen [11:17] it could be worse [11:17] it's only 46 gig of data [11:17] arc__: what version of ubuntu are you on and what is the video for? [11:17] a few domains [11:18] the pain bit is email [11:18] ugg, yeah [11:18] ubuntu 12.04.1 lts and it is for installing/putting adb tools on ubuntu [11:18] moving email != fun [11:18] yup [11:18] there is not many out there [11:18] i mean i have the procedure down pat, it won't be a problem, but it's just ... brrrrr *chills* [11:18] don't want to mess it up [11:19] also the really fun bit is it's 32-bit to 64-bit [11:19] arc__: why do you want the adbtools is it for flashing ubuntu to a phone or something else? [11:19] so if anyone on the box has compiled their own binaries, and for some reason it doesn't work with the lib32 stuff, they can bite me :) [11:19] arc__, you never said 12.04 - the package is just there and just works in 12.10 and higher [11:19] arc__: also isn't the install procedure fully documented on android.org? [11:20] neuro: lol [11:20] good plan :D [11:20] yes but i find videos easyer to use and to find things out [11:21] it is a way of learning like some people learn by seeing and doing [11:22] Rather than reading and questioning your self if you have done it right [11:22] fair enough [11:22] arc__: but often there are no videos, so you just have to follow the guide. [11:22] I've found it's a focus thing. [11:22] that is why i am makeing it [11:22] but, and i don't want to burst your bubble, searching youtube for 'ubuntu android tools install' comes back with "About 20,900 results" [11:23] so make sure you have some sort of unique selling point :) [11:23] do it as a rap! [11:23] lol [11:23] neuro: see what the results are [11:23] have cats installing it [11:24] the internet is made of cats [11:24] they are not all about the adb tools only what the first 3 are [11:25] Google have a 3-line guided [11:25] 1: download .tar.gz; 2: untar it; 3: run android and install platformtools [11:25] * MartijnVdS fails to see the need for a full-fledged guide for that [11:26] yes but you have to stuff to bashrc [11:26] you don't [11:26] everything works fine if you just specify the path [11:26] like this # Android tools export PATH=${PATH}:~/androidsdk/tools export PATH=${PATH}:~/androidsdk/platform-tools [11:27] yes but is a bother if you have to keep on specifying the path all the time [11:27] arc__: I just cd to ~/androidsdk first, then run platform-tools/adb [11:27] and still: how hard is it to follow a 4-5 line guide? [11:27] it does not work like that [11:27] with the simplest possible commands [11:27] it is a visual thing of learning [11:28] no, it's a question of understanding what you'll be doing before doing it [11:28] look i will make it and i will post it in about 15-20 mins [11:28] yes but people see they have self confidence [11:28] when watching it [11:28] I avoid videos like that [11:29] Afternoon all o/ [11:29] because the person explaining tends to be condescending or wrong (or BOTH) [11:29] and puts in background music and weird title screens [11:29] \o selinuxium [11:29] CONFIDENCE INSPIRING! [11:30] MartijnVdS: remind me not to ask you for second opinions on things ;) [11:30] guys, if he wants to record a video, he can [11:30] neuro: OK ;) [11:30] no need for the dogpile [11:30] directhex: sure :) [11:30] directhex: I thought he was *looking* for a howto video, not *making* one [11:30] aha [11:30] to quote my mother [11:31] "do you see what 'thought' did? it pee'd the bed and blamed the blanket!" [11:31] ಠ_ಠ [11:31] i don't know what that means [11:31] I DON'T SPEAK UNICODE! [11:31] dude, you're obviously not very l3378 [11:31] -8 [11:31] it's a lesson re: questioning your mother. it's not meant to make sense. it's meant to test your blind obedience [11:32] SPRECHEN ZE ENGLISH POR FAVOR! [11:32] neuro: 😱 [11:32] what is that? [11:32] neuro: it means you're non pep8 compliant and need to be rejected ;) [11:32] looks like a henry hoover [11:32] \/\/3 5|-|0u1d a11 T4l|< l1|<3 T|-|15 [11:32] neuro: U+1F631 [11:32] SuperGeorge: d00d! [11:32] I DON'T SPEAK UNICODE!!!! [11:33] neuro: U+1F631 FACE SCREAMING IN FEAR [11:33] that's like the worst unicode glyph i've ever seen [11:34] 😱 hah, he's not kidding [11:34] 💩💩💩 [11:35] directhex: 🚱 [11:35] make it stop! [11:35] neuro: 💞 [11:35] *facepalm* [11:35] hammertime [11:35] neuro: what about U+1F47E ALIEN MONSTER ? [11:35] 👾 [11:37] hm, odd, that only printed one of them here. there should be 3 [11:39] who here watch's Hak5 on revision 3 [11:39] or techzilla [11:40] hm, I thought they'd fixed this .. my irc client still fails at sending multibyte characters (if its sending 3 characters, it sends 3 bytes. so 3 unicode characters is 6 bytes, the first 3 are sent, the rest are left on the floor) [11:41] haven't watched either of those for a long time [11:41] i fancied a microwave pasta meal, but they only had the ones for 2 people, although it was on offer at less than what i usually pay for the 1 person one :S [11:42] so now i have to eat half and throw half away [11:42] waste ?! [11:42] "have to"? :) [11:42] or what else? [11:42] http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButThouMust [11:42] eat a meal for 2 people? [11:42] EAT IT ALL MAN! [11:42] yes [11:42] my belly will reject it after half way [11:43] neuro: your caps lock seems to be sticky today ;) [11:43] you should watch man vs food [11:43] shift key, my friend, i am a caps ninja [11:43] neuro: it's still sticky [11:43] i need to leave room for crisps too [11:43] lol [11:43] mungbean: you're saying your stomach takes a (presumably) 400g microwave meal perfectly and nothing more? [11:43] +crisps [11:44] that is nothing [11:44] so don't eat the crisps, muppet :) [11:44] and polish off a bit more of the meal so it's lest wasty [11:44] a day w/out crisps is like a day w/out sunshine [11:44] anyway, speaking of unhealthy foodstuffs [11:44] i'm nipping out to try one of the new mcdonalds meals before tesco gets here with my shopping [11:44] irn bru? [11:44] my brother is a body builder so to get a lot of protein he eats 1 whole chicken a day [11:45] and other body builder supplements and etc. [11:45] i am scrawny [11:45] never understood body building [11:45] supplements ? [11:46] anyway, to the unhealthy place! [11:46] he goes to the gym every day for 2 hours after work [11:46] where i shall probably be buying one of these: http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/ukhome/product_nutrition.chicken.871.mediterranean-chicken.html [11:46] my ex was a powerlifter. that seemed balmy enough. bodybuilding is basically the same regime, but with the addition of starvation and dehydration [11:47] your ex was male or female? [11:47] :S [11:47] female lol [11:47] cool [11:47] just checking. bit unusal for female..bit of a lifestyle choice that dominates, surely? [11:48] it was a contributing factor in the 'ex' bit, yeah [11:49] my body shuts off after the 400g are eaten [11:51] why [11:51] because 2500 calories a day are normal to eat [11:51] my stomach knows what a normal meal is [11:52] ~or "has been trained to" [11:53] from someone I know: [11:53] > Going to need a moving company soon- Moving across London. Any recommendations? [11:53] i have just converted my ogv to avi and not i have really bad lip sync [11:53] my company were ok but i got burgled soon after so meh [11:54] does youtube now support ogv files now ? [11:57] arc__: I think that works, but mp4 might work better.. or webm [11:58] hello [12:02] it is a bit quite here now for some reason [12:06] arc__: always is at dinner :d [12:06] lol [12:06] think i managed 5/8 of the meal [12:07] here is my crap vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHynTb0yXE&feature=youtu.be [12:07] is it of a cat installing ubuntu? [12:08] mungbean: it's that easy now? [12:08] no it is a vid of installing adb tools [12:08] lol [12:09] * mungbean prefers dogs anyway [12:09] you so harsh [12:09] mungbean: psh, cats > dogs [12:09] dogs are so needy [12:09] friendly [12:09] clever [12:09] loyal [12:09] my speaking in the vid [12:10] wierd [12:10] the majority of technical guys prefer cats according to a survey that I don't have a link to [12:10] i have a choc lab [12:10] arc__: are you Willy Wonka? [12:10] mmm, choc [12:10] he had loads of choc labs [12:10] tasty [12:11] and his name is rolo [12:11] lol [12:11] he's got a gooey centre? [12:11] yes i will see i can put on a pic of him === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk [12:12] http://i.imgur.com/sKFLXuL.jpg [12:12] my dog using the internet [12:12] that is cute [12:12] nawww, cute cute [12:14] cats can't do this either [12:14] http://i.imgur.com/S7R17il.jpg [12:15] they can't get taken for a walk by a baby? [12:15] mush mush...pull harder doggy [12:16] she pretty much pulls the buggy up the street herself...jack russell power [12:17] do you like to see windows fail [12:17] then watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF0ETsgpxKc [12:17] one of the self serve tills in tesco has had a BSOD for last 3 days [12:18]