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mazalMore oom Kilos 06:07
Kilosmore mazal en ander06:07
mazalHow safe is a partition resize with parted magic ?06:29
Kilosive only used gparted and didnt give probs06:29
mazalI have read that you can boot with parted magic cd , then using gparted make a current partition smaller without lossing the data06:29
mazalloosing even06:29
Kilosi think goosie also used g[arted06:29
mazalScenario: 06:29
mazal4 partitions: / , /home , swap and 1 data partition06:30
Kilosyou just drag the part to which ever size you want06:30
Kilosis root too small?06:31
mazalI have to install Win 7 as well ( unfortunately Ubuntu is forcing me into it ) in dual boot scenario06:31
Kiloshehe06:31
mazalSo I need to make space available on the data partition06:31
mazalI plan to make that one smaller. Install win7 to the then created free space06:31
Kilosjust drag it with gparted06:31
mazalRepair grub with boot-repair cd06:31
Kilostakes a while though06:31
mazalWill that plan work ?06:32
Kilosim sure ive read its better to install win first06:32
mazalYes it is , but now I can't06:32
Kilosor run it in virtualbox06:32
mazalDon't want to re-install my main os also06:33
mazalAlready have 3 os installs waiting :P06:33
Kiloshehe06:33
mazalWin 7 , 12.04 , and k06:33
mazalWork is just getting more and more hehehe06:34
magespawngood morning\06:34
Kiloshaha06:34
Kilosbut yes gparted works for resizing06:34
Kiloshi magespawn hows things?06:34
mazalWell , I repaired a laptop at work with boot-repair and work excellent , so I have a bit of hope that it will work06:34
magespawngood and you Kilos?06:34
mazalMorning magespawn 06:34
Kilosall good here parcel gets fetched tomorrow for me ty06:34
magespawnhey mazal06:35
magespawncool Kilos 06:35
magespawnmazal why do yo need win7?06:35
mazalToo many things starting to break down in Ubu magespawn 06:35
mazalMaking my work difficult06:35
magespawnouch06:35
magespawnsoftware breaking?06:36
mazalAnd discontinuing looks like06:36
mazalk9 is a good example06:36
Kilosmazal, stay on 12.04 till they got the new gui thing going06:36
mazalAnd I have other issues as well with other apps06:37
magespawni have often wondered about that06:37
Kilosim trying to install 13.04 then i can try compile k9 for you but its stupid06:37
magespawnwonder if it is an idea to download the source and install from there?06:37
mazalFrom what I see that specific project is not going anywhere06:38
magespawnsatisfy any dep. manually06:38
mazalLast update was end 201106:38
Kilosonly about 6 dependancies needed and some might be available06:38
mazalWhich might explain why it is not in the Ubu repos anymore06:38
magespawni install no repo software and most of the time it does not give problems06:39
mazalAnd that's just 1 of the issues. I'm just tired of having to struggle to get things to work and be able to do what I want to do. Get more than enough of that at work , don't want it at home also06:40
mazalFor now dual boot is way easier and will keep an eye on the problem apps if it gets resolved or new ones are developed06:41
superflygood evening everyone06:47
Kiloshi superfly 06:47
magespawnhey superfly07:06
magespawnmazal you might have to redo the ubuntu install to get the grub working properly07:07
mazalBoot-repair should take care of that07:07
mazalIt scans for os's on the drive and installs grub07:08
inetprogood morning07:09
Kilosmorning inetpro 07:09
inetprohi Kilos07:10
mazalMorning superfly and inetpro 07:10
Kilosmazal, you should be able to size the data part with gparted from your ubuntu07:10
mazalYeah gonna try that Kilos 07:10
mazalI have a 2nd option though07:11
Kilosive done that a couple of times07:11
Kiloswhats the second option07:11
mazalI can do it with laptop what is needed , but all the data is on my pc. But could add it to samba and access with laptop07:11
mazalAnd leave pc as is07:12
magespawnthat is a nice geeky idea anyway07:12
mazalWhich one ? The samba one ?07:13
magespawnyup07:13
magespawnmight also be the one with less potential problems07:13
mazalIndeed , as the laptop is Win7 anyway07:14
Kilosno man gparted resizes fine07:14
mazalLan should be fast enough for input for video convertion hey ?07:14
mazalWon't run as fast as from hdd , but will work07:15
magespawni have tried to dual boot my win 7 laptop and have not managed to get it right yet07:15
inetprohi mazal, magespawn... oh and superfly 07:17
Kiloshehe07:17
Kiloshavent woken up yet hey07:17
Kilostoo early07:17
mazalI keep laptop as is , the needed app is already on it. Add my data partition to samba on pc where the videos and iso's are. Map drive on laptop to data partition and use as input for app. Copy output when done to same data share. Done.07:17
mazalHa ! That's a plan !07:17
Kilosgood luck07:18
mazalHehe , this one be easy Kilos , much easier than the other plan :-)07:18
Kiloswhew07:18
mazalUnlessssssssss , the app don't accept a network as a source lol07:18
mazalDon't know about that part yet , but is rare these days07:19
Kilosmorning tonberryE352 07:41
tonberryE352morning07:42
Kiloshi Xethron 08:08
Kiloshi psyatw 08:18
psyatwhi Kilos08:20
Kilosmorning Vince-0 08:37
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Kilosdi i also join/quit all the time08:57
magespawnmazal, what app are you using?09:02
magespawnhey inetpro09:02
magespawnKilos, not as far as I can see09:03
Kilosyay ty09:04
magespawni think most irc clients are not set to rejoin automatically09:04
magespawni feel like i have done a full day works already09:05
Kilosai!09:05
magespawnKilos seriously thinking about giving sugerplum a run09:07
Kilosyou are magespawn ?09:08
Kiloswrite down how you get it going09:08
Kiloshehe09:08
Kilosi think its a good tool09:09
Kiloswould have to hear from fly weed and pro though09:09
Kilosi have it installed but dunno where from there09:09
Kilosmagespawn, i think the pro said something about being sued when i discovered it about a year ago09:17
Kiloshi Cantide 09:29
Cantidehello :p09:31
magespawnhey Cantide 09:37
Cantidehello '-'/09:37
CantideI just threw 20 USD at the Ubuntu Edge :)09:37
Cantidehope it makes it to 32 million >.<09:37
magespawnKilos, sued? for using sugerplum? did inetpro say why?09:38
magespawnCantide, what does that get you?09:38
Cantidemagespawn, nothing :P09:38
CantideI think I get listed on the "founders" page, wherever that is :p09:38
magespawnlooks like it has away to go09:38
Kilosi think it had something to do with crashing other peeps pcs magespawn but not sure anymore what he said09:38
Cantideyeah09:38
Cantidealmost on 6 million now though - if it keeps the same pace they will reach it09:39
magespawni read the indiegogo page, you get the money back if they don't make it hey?09:39
Cantideyup09:39
Cantidei actually want to buy one09:39
Cantidebut i'm moving soonish - before it ships09:40
magespawnif it is as good as it looks will be awesome09:40
Cantideand i won't know my new address until i get there..09:40
Cantideso >.<09:40
Cantideyeah :)09:40
Cantidepity it also has Android09:40
Cantidei think i'd prefer a pure Ubuntu device09:40
magespawnmy dream is to have a phone/tablet that i can change the os when ever i want09:41
Cantideyeah, like a PC09:41
magespawnlike on pc/laptop09:41
Squirmwoop woop http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0rCQS6q0ci3OpZzzfWior_MMHdk7HwZB09:41
Cantidebut i'm not sure that'd happen09:41
magespawnditto09:41
Squirmand hello09:41
magespawnhey Squirm 09:41
Kiloshi Squirm 09:42
magespawninetpro what would the problems be with running sugerplum?09:43
CantideSquirm, cool :)09:43
inetprouh09:44
inetpromagespawn: I have never run sugarplum 09:46
Kiloshehe09:46
inetprosorry, no time to look into what it is now09:46
Kilosmagespawn, you still got the slexy link to what it is and does09:47
SquirmCantide: it is very much so09:47
Kilosjust keep it for when the guys have time to look09:47
Cantidei want a gopro >.<09:47
inetproKilos: ok perhaps I have looked at it, but my brain is like a sieve09:48
Kilosit was long ago inetpro 09:49
Kilosoh my it crashed mage09:49
inetproKilos: will have to look again later some time09:49
Kilosnp inetpro 09:49
Kiloswb magespawn 09:50
Kiloswhat happened09:50
magespawnnot sure09:51
Kilosim just gonna try get modem going on 13.04. stupid thing boots to blank pink screen with no panel or launcher10:03
Kiloswill try sort things from cli10:03
Kilosdont see the fx5500 vidio card10:04
Kilosgrr10:04
Kilosgrrr10:14
not_found\o11:18
magespawnhey not_found 11:19
not_foundhow are you magespawn?11:20
magespawngood and you?11:20
not_foundgood but anxious  ...11:21
* not_found has a new game of refresh the idiegogo page :p11:21
magespawnlooks like a lot of people are paying attention to that one11:22
magespawnubuntu edge?11:23
not_foundyup :D11:26
Cantidenot_found, haha, i was doing the same earlier :p11:29
Cantideand then i threw 20 USD at it11:29
Cantideand decided to stop before i bankrupt myself :p11:29
not_foundnice Cantide... if enough people chip in this might still become a reality :)11:31
Cantideyeah :)11:31
Cantidei really hope it does11:31
* Kilos- loves sakis3g. can install and setup from cli, so who needs launchers and top panels11:35
not_foundah so uncle Kilos- becoming a terminal 1337 h@x0r5 type now ;)11:36
Kilos-no choice not_found 13.04 didnt show panel or launcher so there was no nm icon even 11:37
Kilos-stupid video card i hope11:38
not_found:) best way to learn, when there is no alternative11:39
Kilos-lol yeah11:39
mazalOm Kilos- , what is that " list usb devices " command again ?12:16
Kilos-lsusb12:16
mazalah12:16
mazalTa12:16
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Kilos-yw12:16
mazal*sigh*12:16
Kilos-what12:17
mazalMy scanner I got don't work with ubuntu :-(12:17
mazalAnother nail in the coffin12:17
Kilos-oh my12:17
mazallsusb sees it , simple scan don't12:17
Kilos-with simple scan??12:17
Kilos-hmm...12:17
mazalAnd the list grows against ubu :-(12:18
Kilos-what model is it12:18
Kilos-we google some12:18
mazalscanjet 20012:18
mazalhp12:18
Kilos-http://askubuntu.com/questions/322304/how-to-install-hp-scanjet-200-in-ubuntu-12-0412:20
Kilos-oh thats 12.04 sorry12:20
Kilos-but might be relevant12:20
Kilos-i didnt have to install anything, simple scan just worked12:21
not_foundif it works in 12.04 there is a very high likelyhood for working in something later...12:21
not_foundtypically with HP for me is has also always just been plug&play12:21
Kilos-yeah12:21
mazalIt doesn't work on 12.0412:21
Kilos-hp normally very ubuntu friendly12:22
mazalWill check on my 13.04 when I have time12:22
Kilos-read that link then, looks like you gotta install something12:22
Kilos-alright, you should go to system settings, printing, and add your scanner to it. hopefully on configuration, it should start working. – Projjol yesterday12:23
mazalWill do , bookmarked the link , ta Kilos- 12:24
Kilos-np12:24
mazalMaybe this weekend12:24
not_foundthere is a thread on ubuntu forums that might be relevant, pity it is still down :/12:24
Kilos-looks like just settings12:24
mazalSeems that way , unfortunately already packed it away now12:24
Kilos-you gotta add your scanner in settings12:25
Kilos-hehe12:25
mazalI don't see how adding a printer that isn't a printer is going to help12:26
Kilos-no man it says add the scanner12:26
mazalBut in "printers"12:26
mazalAnd in there , there is only option to add a printer12:26
Kilos-yeah they are similar hardware12:26
mazalCheck it out , there is no option for scanners there12:27
not_foundI don't think this is the way to go...12:28
Kilos-maybe one of the clever okes will come up with the solution12:29
Kilos-or maybe when you tick add it will show some more12:31
Kilos-if its connected that is12:31
magespawnmazal hp has their own software for use on ubuntu12:39
mazalScratching around in their site now magespawn 12:40
magespawnyou seem to be collecting all the hardware problems at the moment12:40
mazal" We were unable to locate the Drivers & Software downloads page for 'HP scanjet 200' "12:41
mazalTheir site says that12:41
magespawnwhich ubuntu are you using?12:42
mazalHere is 12.04 , at home 13.0412:43
not_foundcheck software center, there is specific HP software but typically that is not needed to make the hardware work...12:43
mazalTested here now as it was delivered here  (12.04)12:43
magespawnscanjet 200? mazal ?12:46
mazalyup12:46
mazalOk , I'm off12:48
mazalEnjoy your evening everyone12:48
mazalBye12:48
* not_found sees that the Ubuntu Touch SDK has now gone beta... perhaps I should install it and pretend I am a dev >.>12:49
not_foundhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/ubuntu-touch-sdk-beta12:49
magespawnMaaz tell mazal http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=Hewlett+Packard&model=&bus=usb12:50
Maazmagespawn: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode12:50
Squirmmy Pi is telling me to run my python script as root because it can't access /dev/mem, though I am root...12:57
not_foundbe more root13:00
not_foundme go home now so have a good one all :)13:01
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magespawnMaaz tell mazal http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD14:32
Maazmagespawn: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode14:32
magespawnMaaz tell mazal http://is.gd/MLfP2R14:43
Maazmagespawn: Sure, I'll tell mazal on freenode14:43
magespawnand for general info http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html14:44
Kilosohi ThatGraemeGuy 15:19
Kilosand Dreen 15:19
magespawnhey Kilos 15:32
magespawnmazal, did you get my messages?15:32
Kiloshi magespawn speeds good. 41m in 2 mins15:32
Kilosgracias15:32
magespawnthat is cool Kilos, is it working with the router?15:33
Kilosstill gotta get there, but no rush sis still readin books15:33
Kiloswill look tomorrow15:33
Kilosi got router disconnected at the mo15:34
mazalHi magespawn , I did thanx15:34
mazalNothing that helps though15:34
Kilosstill no luck with scanner mazal ?15:34
mazalNope , I put it on my Win laptop , runs like a dream there15:35
Kilosyou gotta plug it in15:35
Kiloshehe15:35
mazalOh and btw , that hp toolkit somebody suggested , " no devices found " , that also don't work15:35
magespawnmaybe that one is too new15:36
mazalPossibly15:37
magespawnKilos, i will be interested to see how that modem works with the router15:37
mazalOom Kilos why ? Everything "runs through thin air" these days :-)15:37
Kiloslol mazal 15:38
mazalSeriously nice little piece of hardware , doesn't even have a power cable. Usb only15:38
magespawnmazal, that last one is from a google cache of ubuntu forums, so there maybe more info there when they come back up15:38
Kilosme too magespawn , im just fighting 12.04 which has got screen at 640x48015:38
magespawnwonder if you could do usb to ethernet with POE to turn it into a network scanner15:39
mazalSo I can easily shift it once a year and see if it supported yet. Just glad for my laptop so that I can go on with the work so long15:39
mazalmagespawn, I seriously doubt it. This is just a plain entry level one15:40
mazalOom Kilos , the k test is getting further and further down the to-do list :P15:42
Kilosai!15:42
mazalHave 1 more movie to clean up , that's a full day almost , then 12.04 recovery install , then photo scanning project , then k15:43
Kilossjoe15:43
mazalWill fit it in during the scanning when I get tired of that15:43
mazalasdaar15:43
magespawnlater all home time15:44
mazalBye magespawn 15:44
Cantidesee ya~15:44
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mazalgtg , bye everyone15:54
Kiloswbb16:01
CantideAFKhttp://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1j166z/hi_im_mark_shuttleworth_founder_of_ubuntu/16:45
CantideAFKfollowing this right now16:45
CantideAFKbut i'm out in a minute -.-16:45
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Kiloswhew what a business17:58
Dreenyo!17:58
Kilosyo Dreen 17:58
Kiloshi psychicist 18:09
Kiloshi kbmonkey 18:15
Kilosor have you forgotten to show you are away18:15
psychicisthi Kilos 18:16
psychicisthi Kilos 18:16
Kiloshehe18:16
psychicistI mean kbmonkey18:16
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:28
psychicistgood night Kilos 18:29
psychicistwelterusten18:29
Kilosty you too18:29
Squirm2hi19:22
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