[06:07] <mazal> More oom Kilos 
[06:07] <Kilos> more mazal en ander
[06:29] <mazal> How safe is a partition resize with parted magic ?
[06:29] <Kilos> ive only used gparted and didnt give probs
[06:29] <mazal> I have read that you can boot with parted magic cd , then using gparted make a current partition smaller without lossing the data
[06:29] <mazal> loosing even
[06:29] <Kilos> i think goosie also used g[arted
[06:29] <mazal> Scenario: 
[06:30] <mazal> 4 partitions: / , /home , swap and 1 data partition
[06:30] <Kilos> you just drag the part to which ever size you want
[06:31] <Kilos> is root too small?
[06:31] <mazal> I have to install Win 7 as well ( unfortunately Ubuntu is forcing me into it ) in dual boot scenario
[06:31] <Kilos> hehe
[06:31] <mazal> So I need to make space available on the data partition
[06:31] <mazal> I plan to make that one smaller. Install win7 to the then created free space
[06:31] <Kilos> just drag it with gparted
[06:31] <mazal> Repair grub with boot-repair cd
[06:31] <Kilos> takes a while though
[06:32] <mazal> Will that plan work ?
[06:32] <Kilos> im sure ive read its better to install win first
[06:32] <mazal> Yes it is , but now I can't
[06:32] <Kilos> or run it in virtualbox
[06:33] <mazal> Don't want to re-install my main os also
[06:33] <mazal> Already have 3 os installs waiting :P
[06:33] <Kilos> hehe
[06:33] <mazal> Win 7 , 12.04 , and k
[06:34] <mazal> Work is just getting more and more hehehe
[06:34] <magespawn> good morning\
[06:34] <Kilos> haha
[06:34] <Kilos> but yes gparted works for resizing
[06:34] <Kilos> hi magespawn hows things?
[06:34] <mazal> Well , I repaired a laptop at work with boot-repair and work excellent , so I have a bit of hope that it will work
[06:34] <magespawn> good and you Kilos?
[06:34] <mazal> Morning magespawn 
[06:34] <Kilos> all good here parcel gets fetched tomorrow for me ty
[06:35] <magespawn> hey mazal
[06:35] <magespawn> cool Kilos 
[06:35] <magespawn> mazal why do yo need win7?
[06:35] <mazal> Too many things starting to break down in Ubu magespawn 
[06:35] <mazal> Making my work difficult
[06:35] <magespawn> ouch
[06:36] <magespawn> software breaking?
[06:36] <mazal> And discontinuing looks like
[06:36] <mazal> k9 is a good example
[06:36] <Kilos> mazal, stay on 12.04 till they got the new gui thing going
[06:37] <mazal> And I have other issues as well with other apps
[06:37] <magespawn> i have often wondered about that
[06:37] <Kilos> im trying to install 13.04 then i can try compile k9 for you but its stupid
[06:37] <magespawn> wonder if it is an idea to download the source and install from there?
[06:38] <mazal> From what I see that specific project is not going anywhere
[06:38] <magespawn> satisfy any dep. manually
[06:38] <mazal> Last update was end 2011
[06:38] <Kilos> only about 6 dependancies needed and some might be available
[06:38] <mazal> Which might explain why it is not in the Ubu repos anymore
[06:39] <magespawn> i install no repo software and most of the time it does not give problems
[06:40] <mazal> And that's just 1 of the issues. I'm just tired of having to struggle to get things to work and be able to do what I want to do. Get more than enough of that at work , don't want it at home also
[06:41] <mazal> For now dual boot is way easier and will keep an eye on the problem apps if it gets resolved or new ones are developed
[06:47] <superfly> good evening everyone
[06:47] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[07:06] <magespawn> hey superfly
[07:07] <magespawn> mazal you might have to redo the ubuntu install to get the grub working properly
[07:07] <mazal> Boot-repair should take care of that
[07:08] <mazal> It scans for os's on the drive and installs grub
[07:09] <inetpro> good morning
[07:09] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[07:10] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[07:10] <mazal> Morning superfly and inetpro 
[07:10] <Kilos> mazal, you should be able to size the data part with gparted from your ubuntu
[07:10] <mazal> Yeah gonna try that Kilos 
[07:11] <mazal> I have a 2nd option though
[07:11] <Kilos> ive done that a couple of times
[07:11] <Kilos> whats the second option
[07:11] <mazal> I can do it with laptop what is needed , but all the data is on my pc. But could add it to samba and access with laptop
[07:12] <mazal> And leave pc as is
[07:12] <magespawn> that is a nice geeky idea anyway
[07:13] <mazal> Which one ? The samba one ?
[07:13] <magespawn> yup
[07:13] <magespawn> might also be the one with less potential problems
[07:14] <mazal> Indeed , as the laptop is Win7 anyway
[07:14] <Kilos> no man gparted resizes fine
[07:14] <mazal> Lan should be fast enough for input for video convertion hey ?
[07:15] <mazal> Won't run as fast as from hdd , but will work
[07:15] <magespawn> i have tried to dual boot my win 7 laptop and have not managed to get it right yet
[07:17] <inetpro> hi mazal, magespawn... oh and superfly 
[07:17] <Kilos> hehe
[07:17] <Kilos> havent woken up yet hey
[07:17] <Kilos> too early
[07:17] <mazal> I keep laptop as is , the needed app is already on it. Add my data partition to samba on pc where the videos and iso's are. Map drive on laptop to data partition and use as input for app. Copy output when done to same data share. Done.
[07:17] <mazal> Ha ! That's a plan !
[07:18] <Kilos> good luck
[07:18] <mazal> Hehe , this one be easy Kilos , much easier than the other plan :-)
[07:18] <Kilos> whew
[07:18] <mazal> Unlessssssssss , the app don't accept a network as a source lol
[07:19] <mazal> Don't know about that part yet , but is rare these days
[07:41] <Kilos> morning tonberryE352 
[07:42] <tonberryE352> morning
[08:08] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[08:18] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:20] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:37] <Kilos> morning Vince-0 
[08:57] <Kilos> di i also join/quit all the time
[09:02] <magespawn> mazal, what app are you using?
[09:02] <magespawn> hey inetpro
[09:03] <magespawn> Kilos, not as far as I can see
[09:04] <Kilos> yay ty
[09:04] <magespawn> i think most irc clients are not set to rejoin automatically
[09:05] <magespawn> i feel like i have done a full day works already
[09:05] <Kilos> ai!
[09:07] <magespawn> Kilos seriously thinking about giving sugerplum a run
[09:08] <Kilos> you are magespawn ?
[09:08] <Kilos> write down how you get it going
[09:08] <Kilos> hehe
[09:09] <Kilos> i think its a good tool
[09:09] <Kilos> would have to hear from fly weed and pro though
[09:09] <Kilos> i have it installed but dunno where from there
[09:17] <Kilos> magespawn, i think the pro said something about being sued when i discovered it about a year ago
[09:29] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[09:31] <Cantide> hello :p
[09:37] <magespawn> hey Cantide 
[09:37] <Cantide> hello '-'/
[09:37] <Cantide> I just threw 20 USD at the Ubuntu Edge :)
[09:37] <Cantide> hope it makes it to 32 million >.<
[09:38] <magespawn> Kilos, sued? for using sugerplum? did inetpro say why?
[09:38] <magespawn> Cantide, what does that get you?
[09:38] <Cantide> magespawn, nothing :P
[09:38] <Cantide> I think I get listed on the "founders" page, wherever that is :p
[09:38] <magespawn> looks like it has away to go
[09:38] <Kilos> i think it had something to do with crashing other peeps pcs magespawn but not sure anymore what he said
[09:38] <Cantide> yeah
[09:39] <Cantide> almost on 6 million now though - if it keeps the same pace they will reach it
[09:39] <magespawn> i read the indiegogo page, you get the money back if they don't make it hey?
[09:39] <Cantide> yup
[09:39] <Cantide> i actually want to buy one
[09:40] <Cantide> but i'm moving soonish - before it ships
[09:40] <magespawn> if it is as good as it looks will be awesome
[09:40] <Cantide> and i won't know my new address until i get there..
[09:40] <Cantide> so >.<
[09:40] <Cantide> yeah :)
[09:40] <Cantide> pity it also has Android
[09:40] <Cantide> i think i'd prefer a pure Ubuntu device
[09:41] <magespawn> my dream is to have a phone/tablet that i can change the os when ever i want
[09:41] <Cantide> yeah, like a PC
[09:41] <magespawn> like on pc/laptop
[09:41] <Squirm> woop woop http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0rCQS6q0ci3OpZzzfWior_MMHdk7HwZB
[09:41] <Cantide> but i'm not sure that'd happen
[09:41] <magespawn> ditto
[09:41] <Squirm> and hello
[09:41] <magespawn> hey Squirm 
[09:42] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[09:43] <magespawn> inetpro what would the problems be with running sugerplum?
[09:43] <Cantide> Squirm, cool :)
[09:44] <inetpro> uh
[09:46] <inetpro> magespawn: I have never run sugarplum 
[09:46] <Kilos> hehe
[09:46] <inetpro> sorry, no time to look into what it is now
[09:47] <Kilos> magespawn, you still got the slexy link to what it is and does
[09:47] <Squirm> Cantide: it is very much so
[09:47] <Kilos> just keep it for when the guys have time to look
[09:47] <Cantide> i want a gopro >.<
[09:48] <inetpro> Kilos: ok perhaps I have looked at it, but my brain is like a sieve
[09:49] <Kilos> it was long ago inetpro 
[09:49] <Kilos> oh my it crashed mage
[09:49] <inetpro> Kilos: will have to look again later some time
[09:49] <Kilos> np inetpro 
[09:50] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[09:50] <Kilos> what happened
[09:51] <magespawn> not sure
[10:03] <Kilos> im just gonna try get modem going on 13.04. stupid thing boots to blank pink screen with no panel or launcher
[10:03] <Kilos> will try sort things from cli
[10:04] <Kilos> dont see the fx5500 vidio card
[10:04] <Kilos> grr
[10:14] <Kilos> grrr
[11:18] <not_found> \o
[11:19] <magespawn> hey not_found 
[11:20] <not_found> how are you magespawn?
[11:20] <magespawn> good and you?
[11:21] <not_found> good but anxious  ...
[11:21]  * not_found has a new game of refresh the idiegogo page :p
[11:22] <magespawn> looks like a lot of people are paying attention to that one
[11:23] <magespawn> ubuntu edge?
[11:26] <not_found> yup :D
[11:29] <Cantide> not_found, haha, i was doing the same earlier :p
[11:29] <Cantide> and then i threw 20 USD at it
[11:29] <Cantide> and decided to stop before i bankrupt myself :p
[11:31] <not_found> nice Cantide... if enough people chip in this might still become a reality :)
[11:31] <Cantide> yeah :)
[11:31] <Cantide> i really hope it does
[11:35]  * Kilos- loves sakis3g. can install and setup from cli, so who needs launchers and top panels
[11:36] <not_found> ah so uncle Kilos- becoming a terminal 1337 h@x0r5 type now ;)
[11:37] <Kilos-> no choice not_found 13.04 didnt show panel or launcher so there was no nm icon even 
[11:38] <Kilos-> stupid video card i hope
[11:39] <not_found> :) best way to learn, when there is no alternative
[11:39] <Kilos-> lol yeah
[12:16] <mazal> Om Kilos- , what is that " list usb devices " command again ?
[12:16] <Kilos-> lsusb
[12:16] <mazal> ah
[12:16] <mazal> Ta
[12:16] <Kilos-> yw
[12:16] <mazal> *sigh*
[12:17] <Kilos-> what
[12:17] <mazal> My scanner I got don't work with ubuntu :-(
[12:17] <mazal> Another nail in the coffin
[12:17] <Kilos-> oh my
[12:17] <mazal> lsusb sees it , simple scan don't
[12:17] <Kilos-> with simple scan??
[12:17] <Kilos-> hmm...
[12:18] <mazal> And the list grows against ubu :-(
[12:18] <Kilos-> what model is it
[12:18] <Kilos-> we google some
[12:18] <mazal> scanjet 200
[12:18] <mazal> hp
[12:20] <Kilos-> http://askubuntu.com/questions/322304/how-to-install-hp-scanjet-200-in-ubuntu-12-04
[12:20] <Kilos-> oh thats 12.04 sorry
[12:20] <Kilos-> but might be relevant
[12:21] <Kilos-> i didnt have to install anything, simple scan just worked
[12:21] <not_found> if it works in 12.04 there is a very high likelyhood for working in something later...
[12:21] <not_found> typically with HP for me is has also always just been plug&play
[12:21] <Kilos-> yeah
[12:21] <mazal> It doesn't work on 12.04
[12:22] <Kilos-> hp normally very ubuntu friendly
[12:22] <mazal> Will check on my 13.04 when I have time
[12:22] <Kilos-> read that link then, looks like you gotta install something
[12:23] <Kilos-> alright, you should go to system settings, printing, and add your scanner to it. hopefully on configuration, it should start working. – Projjol yesterday
[12:24] <mazal> Will do , bookmarked the link , ta Kilos- 
[12:24] <Kilos-> np
[12:24] <mazal> Maybe this weekend
[12:24] <not_found> there is a thread on ubuntu forums that might be relevant, pity it is still down :/
[12:24] <Kilos-> looks like just settings
[12:24] <mazal> Seems that way , unfortunately already packed it away now
[12:25] <Kilos-> you gotta add your scanner in settings
[12:25] <Kilos-> hehe
[12:26] <mazal> I don't see how adding a printer that isn't a printer is going to help
[12:26] <Kilos-> no man it says add the scanner
[12:26] <mazal> But in "printers"
[12:26] <mazal> And in there , there is only option to add a printer
[12:26] <Kilos-> yeah they are similar hardware
[12:27] <mazal> Check it out , there is no option for scanners there
[12:28] <not_found> I don't think this is the way to go...
[12:29] <Kilos-> maybe one of the clever okes will come up with the solution
[12:31] <Kilos-> or maybe when you tick add it will show some more
[12:31] <Kilos-> if its connected that is
[12:39] <magespawn> mazal hp has their own software for use on ubuntu
[12:40] <mazal> Scratching around in their site now magespawn 
[12:40] <magespawn> you seem to be collecting all the hardware problems at the moment
[12:41] <mazal> " We were unable to locate the Drivers & Software downloads page for 'HP scanjet 200' "
[12:41] <mazal> Their site says that
[12:42] <magespawn> which ubuntu are you using?
[12:43] <mazal> Here is 12.04 , at home 13.04
[12:43] <not_found> check software center, there is specific HP software but typically that is not needed to make the hardware work...
[12:43] <mazal> Tested here now as it was delivered here  (12.04)
[12:46] <magespawn> scanjet 200? mazal ?
[12:46] <mazal> yup
[12:48] <mazal> Ok , I'm off
[12:48] <mazal> Enjoy your evening everyone
[12:48] <mazal> Bye
[12:49]  * not_found sees that the Ubuntu Touch SDK has now gone beta... perhaps I should install it and pretend I am a dev >.>
[12:49] <not_found> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/ubuntu-touch-sdk-beta
[12:50] <magespawn> Maaz tell mazal http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=Hewlett+Packard&model=&bus=usb
[12:50] <Maaz> magespawn: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[12:57] <Squirm> my Pi is telling me to run my python script as root because it can't access /dev/mem, though I am root...
[13:00] <not_found> be more root
[13:01] <not_found> me go home now so have a good one all :)
[14:32] <magespawn> Maaz tell mazal http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD
[14:32] <Maaz> magespawn: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[14:43] <magespawn> Maaz tell mazal http://is.gd/MLfP2R
[14:43] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[14:44] <magespawn> and for general info http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[15:19] <Kilos> ohi ThatGraemeGuy 
[15:19] <Kilos> and Dreen 
[15:32] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[15:32] <magespawn> mazal, did you get my messages?
[15:32] <Kilos> hi magespawn speeds good. 41m in 2 mins
[15:32] <Kilos> gracias
[15:33] <magespawn> that is cool Kilos, is it working with the router?
[15:33] <Kilos> still gotta get there, but no rush sis still readin books
[15:33] <Kilos> will look tomorrow
[15:34] <Kilos> i got router disconnected at the mo
[15:34] <mazal> Hi magespawn , I did thanx
[15:34] <mazal> Nothing that helps though
[15:34] <Kilos> still no luck with scanner mazal ?
[15:35] <mazal> Nope , I put it on my Win laptop , runs like a dream there
[15:35] <Kilos> you gotta plug it in
[15:35] <Kilos> hehe
[15:35] <mazal> Oh and btw , that hp toolkit somebody suggested , " no devices found " , that also don't work
[15:36] <magespawn> maybe that one is too new
[15:37] <mazal> Possibly
[15:37] <magespawn> Kilos, i will be interested to see how that modem works with the router
[15:37] <mazal> Oom Kilos why ? Everything "runs through thin air" these days :-)
[15:38] <Kilos> lol mazal 
[15:38] <mazal> Seriously nice little piece of hardware , doesn't even have a power cable. Usb only
[15:38] <magespawn> mazal, that last one is from a google cache of ubuntu forums, so there maybe more info there when they come back up
[15:38] <Kilos> me too magespawn , im just fighting 12.04 which has got screen at 640x480
[15:39] <magespawn> wonder if you could do usb to ethernet with POE to turn it into a network scanner
[15:39] <mazal> So I can easily shift it once a year and see if it supported yet. Just glad for my laptop so that I can go on with the work so long
[15:40] <mazal> magespawn, I seriously doubt it. This is just a plain entry level one
[15:42] <mazal> Oom Kilos , the k test is getting further and further down the to-do list :P
[15:42] <Kilos> ai!
[15:43] <mazal> Have 1 more movie to clean up , that's a full day almost , then 12.04 recovery install , then photo scanning project , then k
[15:43] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:43] <mazal> Will fit it in during the scanning when I get tired of that
[15:43] <mazal> asdaar
[15:44] <magespawn> later all home time
[15:44] <mazal> Bye magespawn 
[15:44] <Cantide> see ya~
[15:54] <mazal> gtg , bye everyone
[16:01] <Kilos> wbb
[16:45] <CantideAFK> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1j166z/hi_im_mark_shuttleworth_founder_of_ubuntu/
[16:45] <CantideAFK> following this right now
[16:45] <CantideAFK> but i'm out in a minute -.-
[17:58] <Kilos> whew what a business
[17:58] <Dreen> yo!
[17:58] <Kilos> yo Dreen 
[18:09] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[18:15] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[18:15] <Kilos> or have you forgotten to show you are away
[18:16] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[18:16] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[18:16] <Kilos> hehe
[18:16] <psychicist> I mean kbmonkey
[18:28] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:29] <psychicist> good night Kilos 
[18:29] <psychicist> welterusten
[18:29] <Kilos> ty you too
[19:22] <Squirm2> hi