[00:00] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: Well, my heart sank when I had reached a point where I had GRUB running but *neither* Ubuntu nor Windows 8 would boot anymore.
[00:00] <aantonic73_> crafty doesnt work in eboard but works in xboard chess? any solution
[00:03] <sig_white> Meh.At least this time around Ubuntu's wireless network drivers seem to be working properly. That was the reason I abandoned installing Ubuntu on the previous notebook (~2-3 years ago)
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> sig_white, Some windows users just save all the install packages and have a install media, some images, I would not rely on the recovery partition is all. If you have pro or above you have unlimited backups on board, legally only one image, personally I have three externals one is 2 terrabyte the others are a bit smaller the big one was 100$, cheap insurance.
[00:03] <JeremyTiki> Hey guys, I'm trying to install some new software on my Ubuntu server, but when I use 'sudo apt-get package' it throws an error and says to run 'sudo apt-get -f install' so I do and this pops up http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909398/
[00:03] <akurilin> How do I decide where to play group membership of a user on my machine? It looks like I could specify it both under /etc/user and under /etc/passwd. Is there a "correct way"?
[00:04] <JeremyTiki> I've read through a couple different answers (like deleting old files from /boot) but nothing seems to work
[00:04] <k1l> Will: support only here in the channel
[00:04] <k1l> Will: yes, that will reload the packages
[00:06] <pepee> JeremyTiki, try installing linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic
[00:07] <JeremyTiki> How do I do that? Sorry I'm still kind of new to it
[00:07] <pepee> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic
[00:07] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: I should really burn the recovery image to a DVD some time (tomorrow?). Disk backups don't really help me, though. Backing up the important data is why I use Wuala in the first place. For the rest I am honest enough to know I'm too lazy to do it properly (i.e. regularly), so the added benefit would be neglible.
[00:07] <trism> aantonic73_: there is a thread talking about it on the forums but it is down, maybe: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cupE0czL2ZsJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1492627.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[00:08] <daniel1> Evening everyone
[00:08] <daniel1> a) whats the md5 hash for ubuntu-latest-32bit.iso and b) why cant I find that on the ubuntu website? :-)
[00:08] <trism> aantonic73_: it says something about how you need to have your book files in ~/.eboard and table files in ~/.eboard/craftylog
[00:08] <bazhang> !hashes | daniel1
[00:09] <JeremyTiki> pepee just gives me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909412/
[00:09] <daniel1> thanks :-)
[00:09] <pepee> install linux-headers-server:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server
[00:09] <pepee> !dependencies
[00:10] <sig_white> Anyway. Thanks holstein, syn-ack, wilee-nilee et al. I'm going to bed. I'll give this another try tomorrow and make sure to give nomodeset a try. Maybe I'm overlooking something.
[00:10] <pepee> bah, sorry JeremyTiki , I don't remember how to solve that kind of brokennes :/
[00:11] <JeremyTiki> Damn, no one seems to know how to
[00:12] <mmun> hello! is it possible to list all packages made available from a particular installed ppa? my googlefu is failing me
[00:12] <reisio> JeremyTiki: doesn't it tell you what to do there?
[00:13] <pepee> the bot had a factoid, but I don't remember it...
[00:13] <JeremyTiki> @reisio running apt-get -f install?
[00:13] <reisio> JeremyTiki: is that your question?
[00:13] <speedracr> getting error about low graphics mode and install fails; 2 vid cards, 3 monitors. any option to install without removing a video card?
[00:14] <JeremyTiki> No that throws another error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909398/
[00:15] <mmun> argh, nevermind found a way: grep Package /var/lib/apt/lists/(repo name)_Packages
[00:15] <th0r> mmun, I think you can do that in synaptic also
[00:16] <mmun> It's ubuntu server :/
[00:17] <pepee> speedracr, have you ever used linux before? or, do you know how to use grub?
[00:17] <speedracr> familiar with grub somewhat
[00:18] <pepee> bah, forget it.... I was gonna suggest to try another method, but it's easier just try to remove one card or do something with the modules
[00:21] <speedracr> pepee: heh, i'd rather not have to open up this puppy.  i'll keep digging, likely nomodeset or something
[00:21] <pepee> speedracr, I'd try this:  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=89635
[00:21] <pepee> noload=something  in the kernel command line
[00:21] <speedracr> cool, i'll look into that, thanks dude
[00:21] <pepee> yw
[00:23] <akronix> w30: thanks for your help about the wireless card. I'm not sure if it works, it'll try it when I restart
[00:30] <Dekade> would be it be a real pain in the butt to install windows after ubuntu?
[00:30] <Dekade> would it*
[00:30] <th0r> Dekade, yes
[00:30] <Dekade> hm bummer
[00:31] <as0t> hello guys! I just install 12.04 on my laptop. its my first day on linux so sorry about stupid questions.
[00:31] <as0t> I just update
[00:31] <as0t> and now i cant login
[00:31] <as0t> i type the password in login screen
[00:31] <th0r> Dekade, I do run windows in a virtualbox vm from within linux
[00:31] <as0t> and gives me black screen for few seconds and then again login screen
[00:32] <as0t>  I can login with guest user
[00:32] <as0t> but no with root
[00:32] <as0t> any idea?
[00:32] <Dekade> I do too, but basicly the only reason I launch windows is to play a game with my mate.
[00:32] <Dekade> and I havent found it to be too cooperative just yet
[00:32] <Dekade> works great for everything else, but gaming
[00:33] <th0r> Dekade, if you try to install windows after linux, you will lose grub and have to reinstall and reconfigure it. Basically, when windows is installed it 'takes back' the computer. Can't speak for
[00:33] <th0r> win8 though
[00:33] <akurilin> How do I decide where to play group membership of a user on my machine? It looks like I could specify it both under /etc/user and under /etc/passwd. Is there a "correct way"?
[00:34] <Dekade> I understand, how hard would it be to reinstall and configure grub?
[00:34] <th0r> Dekade, not sure....always avoided the issue myself <smile>
[00:34] <Dekade> hehe :)
[00:35] <Dekade> I was looking into that option but I thought I'd jump into the channel and ask somebody for an opinion
[00:35] <doomlord> i've damaged my gtk themes i think .. is there a way to grab the originals without reinstalling everything . i put stuff in ~/.themes, but i might have changed them elsewhere too. (i;ve renamed ~/.themes to prevent it being used)
[00:35] <Dekade> thnx man ;)
[00:36] <doomlord> changing something leaves all sorts of inconsistencies ... i was after a true dark-theme desktop, but it just breaks things, all the apps i use have one critical elemment that will be inverted and look a mess
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Unity?
[00:37] <doomlord> yes i'm using the unity desktop
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Which release?
[00:37] <doomlord> 13.04 . i had a load of extra gtk themes in ~/.themes ... i got rid of them. i seem to have some residual changes i must have made in the system files
[00:38] <doomlord> cant even remember where they should be
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, You can reset the whole shebang to stock. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04  If you have added PPA's though I would purge them first that may fix it.
[00:39] <doomlord> thanks i will try
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, I am assuming the damage is not to extensive like any stock configs removed.
[00:41] <doomlord> i recall adjusting colours in some config file...
[00:41] <doomlord> so i just have messy colour schemes, some elements for a dark theme, some for light
[00:41] <doomlord> eclipse looks horrible :)
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, You have been busy no haven't you. ;)
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> now*
[00:42] <doomlord> it was eclipse in particular that sent me on this quest :)
[00:42] <doomlord> ok i have an undamaged install elsewhere, i will try copying its /usr/share/themes////
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Pretty much any OS is fixable if you want to spend the time, personally it is time against a clone reload for me.
[00:43] <doomlord> i have  a load of keybindings i prefer to keep
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> which a clone would have
[00:43] <doomlord> request for ubuntu... true dark/light theme options
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Here is a website with meta lists for desktops in playing around might be worth having. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[00:50] <ZeloZelos> is this working?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> what?
[00:50] <ZeloZelos> ah good
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[00:51] <ZeloZelos> i was wondering, my hard drive has some bad sectors and i need to try and fix it, does ubuntu have the tools i could run from a live cd and fix it, i have both linux and windows 7 partitions
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> ZeloZelos, fixing a HD is problematic I would image that sucker and get another.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> at the least back it up
[00:54] <ZeloZelos> i plan on that. till then i have to deal with this one so i need to do something..and yup, 1st thing i did was made an image of the hd
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> ZeloZelos, Cool, I'm not familiar with how you would fix it though.
[00:54] <Zhenjin> I am getting ic2 ic2-3: sendbytes: NAK bailout. messages, is this a serious issue or something i can ignore?
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> Zhenjin, Not sure myself but here is what google has to say, there is an older bug at the top. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=+ic2+ic2-3%3A+sendbytes%3A+NAK+bailout&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1
[01:03] <magoogle> hello all!
[01:03] <reisio> 'lo
[01:04] <magoogle> anyone give me a hand configuring a ceton inv4 tuner on my ubuntu 13.04 server.. when i manually add the address and restart the server i lose my ip on my primary network interface.. then i have to remove the line for the tuner to get ip back.
[01:05] <doomlord_> unity-reset: i dont think that will help: the doc says "it will affect workspaces,launcher,multimonitor,hud,compiz".."but not affect anything controlled by unity itself"
[01:05] <phong_> hi guys, is ubuntu 13.04 any good?
[01:05] <phong_> i have 11.11 and 12.
[01:05] <doomlord_> what i have damaged is *gtk config*
[01:05] <doomlord_> ubuntu 13.04 is good, it fixed problems i had eg graphics card support
[01:05] <doomlord_> its better optimized
[01:05] <phong_> any other really advantage beside more graphic cards support?
[01:06] <clue_h> integrated amazon search...
[01:06] <phong_> so does it make any diff installing to vmware?
[01:06] <phong_> maybe not
[01:06] <alexw> I'm trying to setup an NFS share around the house as a NAS
[01:06] <alexw> what permissions do I need on the folder
[01:06] <alexw> ?
[01:07] <phong_> alexw, what kind of permission do you need?
[01:07] <alexw> I was hoping that authenticated users could have rw - nobody have ro
[01:08] <alexw> can you login to NFS using credentials for the local machine?
[01:08] <phong_> can you?
[01:08] <phong_> :)
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> phong_, VM's use there own drivers it is not exactly the same.
[01:08] <phong_> well i have vmware and 11.11
[01:09] <phong_> by installing 13.04, i dont think it will make any difference
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu should run fine in a vm, I would think, if not delete it.
[01:09] <phong_> wilee-nilee, i was comparing the version ...obviously you dont pay attn.
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> phong_, Yo. ;)u funny joe
[01:10] <phong_> it's joe smoe
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> welcome back to ignore were ther mot=rons belong.
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> morons*
[01:11] <JeremyTiki> Hey guys, I've done a little work since I was here a few hours ago and now I'm getting a different error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909532/ any ideas?
[01:14] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: the "KeyError: 'linux-image-server'" is the cause of the crash
[01:15] <JeremyTiki> really? I thought the error would be something to do with ImportError: No module named debian.deb822"
[01:15] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: but i wasn't around to see what the problem was before; i'm going to guess you have added or removed apt repositories
[01:16] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: well, that certainly is an error! it's just happening later, and so could be operating under different assumptions
[01:16] <JeremyTiki> The error was when I would run "apt-get install -f" it would throw an error that said something about not enough disk space.
[01:16] <JeremyTiki> Well any suggestions on how I can fix any of this?
[01:16] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: also I do not claim to be a master at understanding apt; I may be of only minor assistance
[01:16] <JeremyTiki> Any assistance is appriecated
[01:19] <Shira> Hello i have a big problem and dont know how to solve it
[01:19] <cfhowlett> JeremyTiki, time to clear out the cache ...
[01:19] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: i am confused primarily because i was under the impression the linux-server and linux-image-server didn't even exist as of 12.04 anymore
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> JeremyTiki, This a full on server no X
[01:19] <cfhowlett> JeremyTiki, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get remove && sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:20] <Shira> I have completly installed my ubuntu new (i had no problems therE) with encryotion (from the setup screen) and now anyime when i want to shutdown my pc or restart, ubuntu hang on a black screen and nothing happen
[01:20] <JeremyTiki> @cfhowlett Running now
[01:20] <JeremyTiki> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get remove && sudo apt-get autoremove just gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909555/
[01:21] <cfhowlett> JeremyTiki, sudo apt-get - f install     doesn't fix?
[01:21] <JeremyTiki> @wilee-nilee what?
[01:21] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: what are those apt sources?
[01:21] <Shira> can anybody help me?
[01:21] <cfhowlett> !patience|Shira,
[01:22] <JeremyTiki> @cfhowlett nope just throws http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909532/
[01:22] <poppy_liveloop> cfhowlett: JeremyTiki already tried that, it's in the older pastebin
[01:22] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, OK.  just got online here in Beijing so I didn't see it
[01:22] <poppy_liveloop> ahh
[01:22] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: your apt repos are hosed; this is going to hurt you: http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository/ sarge/contrib
[01:23] <Shira> I have completly installed my ubuntu new (i had no problems therE) with encryotion (from the setup screen) and now anyime when i want to shutdown my pc or restart, ubuntu hang on a black screen and nothing happen
[01:23] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop how should I fix that then?
[01:23] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and put it in a pastebin
[01:24] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: you probably have a few lines in that file that could use deleting, unless you are very sure you want them in your repo
[01:24] <JeremyTiki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909569/
[01:24] <JeremyTiki> sources.list ^
[01:24] <JeremyTiki> 2nd and 70 line are dublicates
[01:25] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: ahh, that's a repository only for webmin, should be ok
[01:25] <JeremyTiki> I removed it regardless
[01:26] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: so that was just a warning; the real issue is the "unmet dependencies" combined with the KeyError
[01:26] <JeremyTiki> Seems like it
[01:27] <Shira> i need realy help, anytime when i restart or shutdown my pc, i get a black screen and nothing happens, what can i do (Informations, i have setup my system with encryption)
[01:27] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: what does apt-get update say?
[01:29] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: sometimes machines don't hardware poweroff correctly, just happens
[01:29] <JeremyTiki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909578/
[01:29] <petriborg> should be able to disable the shutdown animation somehow still
[01:29] <Shira> poppy_liveloop i have it anytime
[01:29] <Shira> poppy_liveloop since i have setup my ubuntu new with encryption
[01:30] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: why were you installing linux-server?
[01:30] <luiz> hi
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Shira, Do you really need encryption if that is the problem?
[01:30] <cfhowlett> luiz, greetings
[01:30] <petriborg> shira  it happens when / while it goes to the ubuntu shutdown screen / animation ?
[01:30] <junktext> Shira, I've had your problem actually.  You can try this change documented here: http://junktext.net/notes/Note04.txt  However, try using "nomodeset" instead of "noplymouth" when you get to that step.
[01:30] <JeremyTiki> Well I'm using the system in question as a server, but that came up whenever I try to run 'apt-get -f install'
[01:30] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, did you try installing again after an update? All hits suggest to me that you only did it this time.
[01:30] <junktext> This fixed my Samsung laptop, Shira.
[01:30] <luiz>  cfhowlett where are you from?
[01:31] <Shira> petriborg yes, no animation, only a black screen or sometimes my monitor (grafic card) turns off completly
[01:31] <JeremyTiki> varunendra instalying what? linux-server?
[01:31] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, whatever you are trying to install.
[01:32] <cfhowlett> luiz, linux land.  what's your ubuntu issue?
[01:32] <junktext> Shira, yeah it was a problem with my video driver, which the "nomodeset" option from GRUB helps alleviate.
[01:32] <petriborg> shira oh so it just fades to black and you don't get anything else? have you tried going to the command console and running "sudo shutdown -h now" ?
[01:32] <luiz> 12.04
[01:32] <JeremyTiki> Im not trying to install anythin in particular. I just ran 'apt-get install -f'
[01:32] <petriborg> yeah i think junktext 's solution might be good shira
[01:33] <Shira> junktext i had no problem with my graficcard before, also with the same nvidia driver
[01:33] <JeremyTiki> varunendra Initially I was trying to do "apt-get install python-MySQLdb", but then it said to run "apt-get -f install" and here we are
[01:33] <junktext> Well, you said you installed a new version of Ubuntu, right?
[01:34] <Shira> petriborg yes, ubuntu turns off and switch to the commando screen but i get only a black screen
[01:34] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: actually, try apt-get -m install python-MySQLdb
[01:34] <Shira> petriborg no but i will try it out
[01:34] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, I just looked over here, so sorry if I'm missing something critical, but this in your error part - "Need to get 0 B/4,104 B of archives" suggests you may have broken packages in cache, causing the error.
[01:34] <Shira> junktext i will also try it out
[01:34] <junktext> Yeah, can't hurt.  If you don't like the "nomodeset", you can just go back to the old boot-up sequence.
[01:35] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: that will cause apt to ignore missing packages, which in your case appears to be linux-server and linux-image-server
[01:35] <petriborg> shira - yeah i would hit up the F1 kernel console and see if  shutdown -h now results in the same problem - if it does then it might not be your graphics driver but something else screwing up
[01:35] <JeremyTiki> varunendra someone suggested  cleaning out my cache and gave a command, I ran it but still we got the same error
[01:36] <cfhowlett> varunendra, I had him run apt-get clean, remove and autoremove ... didn't do what I thought it would do ...
[01:36] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: well, i think varunendra is suggesting re-running that after your recent running of "apt-get update" ... you did already update before trying all of this, right?
[01:36] <JeremyTiki> Yeah
[01:36] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop yeah I did
[01:36] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: yeah, i would have imagined
[01:36] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, if you already haven't I'd suggest to try - "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-server linux-server"
[01:36] <Shira> petriborg, junktext. no i have installed my ubuntu 13.04 new because i had installed gnome 3.8 and wantet to deinstall but in the middle part the deinstallation have stocked and my pc is turned off, after that i have start it again and the system was messed up. so i have make a complete new install with encryption
[01:37] <petriborg> shira, oh i see, yuck
[01:38] <petriborg> i hate it when i screw up the window manager
[01:38] <varunendra> cfhowlett, I would have suggested apt-get clean too.
[01:38] <Shira> petriborg btw, when ubuntu starts, i get after driver update a strange start screen, same as before but with text lines under the screen
[01:39] <petriborg> i'm not sure i understand  shira :-/
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> Shira, You familiar with PPA-Purge?
[01:39] <junktext> Hmm, interesting.  Well, I am using encryption on my hdd as well and had the same problems you were describing.  The fix I posted worked for me, which I guess kills two birds with one stone (verbose boot + no weird reboot hangs).  If my fix doesn't work, just let me know.
[01:39] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: it sounds like you're a python dev since you're installing python-MySQLdb; that KeyError means linux-image-server wasn't even in the package list. If you are a python dev, you could always read /usr/bin/apt-listchanges to see what it's even on about
[01:39] <barrett> if dhclient -r is supposed to release my ip address, why does it still show it there in ifconfig afterwards?
[01:39] <Shira> wilee-nilee no
[01:39] <varunendra> cfhowlett, did the "sudo apt-get clean" command that cfhowlett suggested finished properly? Without errors?
[01:40] <varunendra> sorry, JeremyTiki ^^
[01:40] <cfhowlett> varunendra, :_
[01:40] <varunendra> ;)
[01:40] <JeremyTiki> varunendra The logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909594/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909595/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909598/
[01:40] <Shira> and junktext, petriborg i will try a command shutdown and when that not work than i try junkktext methode and when that also doesent work i come back
[01:40] <servvs> well that is interesting, I move to windows for 3 weeks for guitar-audio tests and find out the entire site is down
[01:40] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: actually, hold on
[01:40] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop Not a great dev, just trying to get Django running on MySQL
[01:41] <junktext> Yeah, good luck, Shira!  Hope all goes well.
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> Shira, Ah, well as far as your original removal of gnome 3.8 that had to have been a ppa, the purge would have removed it all and set you stock, an important thing, dependencies and meta-packages are crucial to be removed correctly.
[01:41] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: i'm running 12.04 right now, and i have no /usr/bin/apt-listchanges AT ALL on my machine
[01:41]  * junktext is afk
[01:41] <JeremyTiki> varunendra apt-get clean just makes a new line, it doesn't print any text
[01:41] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: your machine is speaking some kind of moon apt. Is it a fresh install, or an upgrade?
[01:41] <varunendra> that means it was good.
[01:42] <syn-ack> JeremyTiki: That's exactly what it's supposed to do
[01:42] <JeremyTiki> syn-ack varunendra some good news, one command is working woo
[01:42] <Shira> wilee-nilee yes and thats why i have installed it new and now i have the shutdown problem, i will check it if it works as command and than i check junktext method in hope that it work
[01:42] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop So what does that mean for my machine then?
[01:42] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: it means you have an apt command that at least one other person does not
[01:43] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, which one? the "apt-get clean"?? :P
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> Shira, Cool, I was just concerned you work correctly if you are going to add PPA's...etc.
[01:43] <JeremyTiki> varunendra
[01:43] <JeremyTiki> varunendra yeah
[01:43] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: can you run apt-get --version
[01:44] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: i have: apt 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.11 for amd64 compiled on Apr 18 2013 23:27:57
[01:44] <Shira> wilee-nilee no, im a new with linux (i have use it more times so i have only little exp.)
[01:44] <Shira> i test it now
[01:44] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop output for apt-get --version http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909604/
[01:44] <JeremyTiki> I have the same thing I think
[01:44] <poppy_liveloop> yeah
[01:45] <syn-ack> Linux Neptune 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:43:33 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:45] <syn-ack> see, I can do that, too. :P
[01:47] <joeb> Having an issue with nvidia-313-updates, three monitors and Compiz/Unity. Tried sifting through bug reports but they don't seem to apply. Can someone provide assistance?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> Shira, Cool, always feel free to check with the channel if you feel you need to, or the ubuntu forums, when it returns. ;)
[01:48] <shira__> petriborg i have used the command reboot it have worked
[01:49] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: if you have time, walk through `find /var/lib/apt /var/cache/apt | less` and see if it makes semse
[01:50] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" complete successfully?
[01:51] <JeremyTiki> varunendar : Throws http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909616/
[01:52] <Shira> petriborg, junktext after i have restart my pc with the command reboot, the system shutdown an restart works
[01:53] <petriborg> so it only has problems from within the window manager
[01:53] <Shira> petriborg, junktext no, now also the normal restart and shutdown works
[01:53] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, those last lines in your "sources.list" file... are those repositories compatible with Precise? Have you cross-checked on the PPAs?
[01:54] <petriborg> shira, oh so it fixed itself
[01:54] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: can you run `ls /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/debian/`?
[01:54] <JeremyTiki> varunendra the webmin sources? I think they are, how can I check
[01:55] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop cannot access /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/debian/: No such file or directory
[01:55] <p014k> Hello. What is the difference between sort -n and sort -g?
[01:55] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, whatever PPA or guide page you followed should mention it.
[01:55] <poppy_liveloop> varunendra: JeremyTiki: on a quick look, they seem fine; something appears to be hosed in his python install
[01:55] <Shira> petriborg, junktext yes, thanks for the hhelp  but i have a little last question, i have installed my system with encryption. When now anybody would get my hdd and try to get the data with a other pc from a other os, can he get it or is it same strong as truecrypt? because i have never used other encryption programms
[01:56] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: do you use easy_install as root?
[01:56] <varunendra> poppy_liveloop, those .py file related messages are something new to me as well, so can't deny that possibility.
[01:56] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop I might ahve over the past Im not sure
[01:56] <petriborg> shira, you let ubuntu encrypt your home directory? is this what you mean?
[01:56] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: well, now's a good day to learn about virtualenv :)
[01:56] <JeremyTiki> I already have a pretty good working knoweldge of virtualenv
[01:57] <JeremyTiki> Thats why all my posts have (jeremylspencer.com) before them
[01:57] <JeremyTiki> I have one active now
[01:57] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: because if that's missing, your system python install might be hosed
[01:57] <Shira> petriborg, junktext no, i have select the system encryption from the ubuntu setup screen and also the personal encryption from the user pw window from the ubuntu setup
[01:57] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: most of the ubuntu infrastructure is in python, and depends on not being poked too much
[01:58] <Shira> petriborg, junktext and now i want know, when anybody get my hdd if he can get all data when e install it into a other pc and try to get my data via other os
[01:58] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, please show the output of "apt-cache show linux-headers-server | grep -i version"
[01:58] <cfhowlett> Shira, given time and serious effort, encryption can be defeated ... but not easily.
[01:59] <mmun> is it possible to use a package for saucy in precise? I'd like to install the latest version of this package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv
[01:59] <JeremyTiki> varunendra http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909629/
[01:59] <petriborg> shira - I see, sorry I don't know much about this setup, so take with a grain of salt, I feel that this is probably "very secure"  at least against most criminals, though i'm sure the NSA could break it :-)
[02:00] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: I personally use easy_install --prefix=$HOME/local pkgname and have added ~/local/bin to my path for any "system" python installs, and virtualenv for project-specific installs
[02:00] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop I'm starting to notice that, I deffinately need to be more careful and use virtualenv more
[02:00] <Shira> cfhowleft, petriborg ah because my last system was windows with full hdd encryption aes via truecrypt and a very strong and long generatet password with many bit randoms
[02:00] <Shira> cfhowleft, petriborg i have heard that this is one of the strongest and physical unbreakable methode
[02:01] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: unfortunately a bunch of recipes use sudo with the tools, which is dangerous to linux, mac, bsd...
[02:01] <cfhowlett> Shira, you asked if it's possible to hack.  it is.  Just not easily hacked.
[02:01] <Shira> cfhowleft, petriborg i only know the firewire methode (truecrypt)
[02:02] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: aside from the python problems, the path that varunendra is on is that the versions for the linux kernel packages aren't matching
[02:02] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, do you have an older kernel installed?
[02:02] <varunendra> poppy_liveloop, yup you got me :D
[02:02] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: varunendra: I'm just confused what those packages even do - ubuntu doesn't even have a "server" kernel as of 12.04 - they're the same thing.
[02:02] <dance4x> anyone have some recommendations for a new ubuntu laptop?
[02:03] <cfhowlett> dance4x, system 76
[02:03] <varunendra> well, their existence suggests maybe they're not same, poppy_liveloop
[02:03] <cfhowlett> dance4x, or the dell sputnik
[02:03] <poppy_liveloop> dance4x: http://dell.com/ubuntu
[02:03] <dance4x> cfhowlett i have been looking at the ultrapro from system76
[02:03] <JeremyTiki> varunendra : 3.2.0-49-generic is what I have when I run uname -a
[02:03] <Shira> cfhowleft, give it a way to make it same protected like truecrypts complete hdd system encryption?
[02:04] <JeremyTiki> clear
[02:04] <JeremyTiki> shit wrong window
[02:04] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, uname only shows current kernel.
[02:04] <JeremyTiki> varunendra How do I find out if I have older kernels then?
[02:04] <dance4x> not sure i really need an ultrabook. anyone here have experience when it comes to longevity of system76 laptops?
[02:05] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, figuring out.. :P
[02:05] <dance4x> i have had 2 acer laptops and both have crapped out around the 2 year mark
[02:05] <petriborg> shira, any system can be hacked frankly, most will break your box by attacking it via virus or spear-fishing email, very few will be taking an "offline" style attack (governments) if a thief steals your machine he'll just erase it anyway or sell the parts :-) — most actual hackers want to take over your system while your still running it :-)
[02:06] <Shira> cfhowleft, yes that i know but i mean when he have get it physical
[02:06] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, try - "dpkg -s linux-image-generic | grep -i version"
[02:06] <poppy_liveloop> dance4x: if you want the "compatible with all free OSes" go for thinkpad X or T series
[02:06] <cfhowlett> Shira, you're asking for 100% bulletproof protection.  no such thing.  consider; there's now a device for sale that will mirror a locked apple/android device.  cops flash clone your equipment and crack it at their leisure.  and for every encryption scheme, someone somewhere has or will crack it.  Your current setup would likely deter the script kiddies and those who are looking for easy targets.
[02:06] <joeb> Can someone assist with an issue I'm having. Upon login all I get is my wallpaper in 13.04. No Unity or anything
[02:06] <Shira> cfhowleft, so when anybody build in the hdd in there own pc and want to look whats on them
[02:07] <JeremyTiki> varunendra http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909644/
[02:07] <poppy_liveloop> joeb: ctrl-alt-F2 will bring you to a virtual console, you can login and run commands to poke around from there
[02:07] <dance4x> poppy_liveloop im pretty happy with ubuntu. not sure i would want to switch to anything else
[02:07] <joeb> poppy_liveloop: Yes, I have one already open.
[02:07] <poppy_liveloop> joeb: ctrl-alt-F7 brings you back to desktop
[02:08] <joeb> poppy_liveloop: Yep, being using one to restart lightdm after changes. Nothing seems to work.
[02:08] <cfhowlett> Shira, don't keep the swiss bank account numbers on your hard drive.  back up everything.  expect to get hacked/cracked at some point.  that's really the best advice I can give you.
[02:08] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, eh, wrong package, replace "linux-image-generic" with "linux-image-server"
[02:08] <joeb> poppy_liveloop: I'm seeing my ~/.xsession-errors "compiz (core) - Fatal: No composite extension"
[02:09] <JeremyTiki> varunendra Version: 3.2.0.40.48
[02:09] <JeremyTiki> Config-Version: 3.2.0.39.47
[02:09] <JeremyTiki> varunendra Version: 3.2.0.40.48 Config-Version: 3.2.0.39.47
[02:09] <poppy_liveloop> joeb: yikes, not my field of expertise. Sounds like pathing is wrong in a config somewhere
[02:09] <Shira> cfhowleft, yes i have only ask because the news that the fbi failed to crack a truecrypt hdd
[02:09] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: so, from the package page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-server
[02:09] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: i think it's just a broken package
[02:10] <Shira> cfhowleft, news title: FBI fails to decrypt suspect's hard drives - after 12 months of trying
[02:10] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop so how can I fix it?
[02:10] <petriborg> shira, there is news that the FBI failed to crack most encrypted systems (at least those without an explicit back door)
[02:10] <cfhowlett> Shira, did you also read that the NSA claims they can NOT search their own databases for email?  SOMEBODY lying!
[02:11] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, do you get grub menu when you boot?
[02:11] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: varunendra: here is the link explaining that as of 12.04 the server and desktop kernel are the same: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#What.27s_the_difference_between_desktop_and_server.3F
[02:11] <petriborg> shira but the FBI would just say "give us the password or go to jail" see all news about that :-/
[02:11] <mmun> is a backport absolutely necessary to install newer release versions of a package, or is there some kind of manual override if I have all the required dependencies installed?
[02:11] <petriborg> cfhowlett, yeah! hah
[02:11] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: try apt-get-f remove linux-server linux-image-server
[02:11] <JeremyTiki> I can't say, I mostly use the server over ssh since I set it up last year.
[02:11] <Shira> petriborg not for me, i live in germany :)
[02:12] <cfhowlett> Shira, oh well then.  you're completely safe because there is NO surveillance apparatus in Germany ...
[02:12] <varunendra> hmmm.... poppy_liveloop I think it's a good thing. Thanks for the link :)
[02:12] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop throws http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909659/
[02:12] <cfhowlett> mmun, preferred method is to use backport, but you could do the manual thing ...
[02:13] <poppy_liveloop> LOL
[02:13] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop import debian.deb822 keeps coming up over and over again in almost every error
[02:13] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: aaaannnnddd we're back to the fact that you have a broken python install
[02:13] <Shira> cfhowleft, i only ask  if any can crack my encrypted system without any back door and when they have my hdd if they can crack it than
[02:13] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop Yupp
[02:13] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: might be worth a reinstall at this point
[02:13] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, one possible way to fix it could be to boot with the older kernel, then try updating-upgrading from there, and also reinstalling the offending packages.
[02:14] <Shira> cfhowleft, sry if i ask so much but i want a system that i very secure
[02:14] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: or i guess you could search for all installed python packages and reinstall them...
[02:14] <petriborg> shira, cfhowlett - yeah germany was very upset because they wanted to setup their own NSA spy net like the UK and USA har :(
[02:14] <Shira> cfhowleft, *is
[02:14] <petriborg> shira - the disk is secure - my point is that they won't attack you via the disk, they will attack you via the browser and email
[02:15] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop the fresh install seems easier.
[02:15] <daftykins> Shira: are you doing illegal things with your computer? :(
[02:15] <Shira> petriborg yes that i have understand but i mean if there can crack my hdd only when they have the hdd in there hands
[02:15] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop fix all the problems iwth one sweep
[02:16] <cfhowlett> petriborg, I lived in Berlin for 2 years, checkpoint charlie, the secret police archives all that.  Best believe if the government wants to watch it's citizens online, it can do so quite easily.
[02:16] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: well, good luck with your django experiments when you're done! :)
[02:16] <mmun> cfhowlett: there is no backport, unfortunately. Is it possible to force the .deb's to download and install? I'm fairly certain I have all the dependencies.
[02:16] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop, varunendra, Well thanks for your help guy
[02:16] <Shira> daftykins no but im a person they have a big point in secure stuff, i want all very secure, house, car also my pc
[02:16] <cfhowlett> mmun, go to the package site, download the .deb and then sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:16] <petriborg> cfhowlett - oh i totally agree with you, that was the joke :)
[02:16] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: using full disk encryption is commendable, but certainly requires a certain patience for debugging
[02:16] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: you're welcome!
[02:17] <mmun> cfhowlett: Alright, I'll give it a shot
[02:17] <tigris_> hi guys, i am trying to run `sudo apt-get update` and it keeps hanging on the first line with "% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)]"
[02:17] <Willx> Hey guys, I have what I believe is a very trivial problem but cannot figure out how to fix. My mozilla internet  "window" is up past my screen. I cannot grab the bar to move and resize it
[02:17] <Shira> poppy_liveloop thats why i have ask if the ubuntu setup encryption is a full encryption
[02:17] <petriborg> Shira - heh how did you secure your car (just wondering) my car key was only 48 bits of encryption - its pathetic!
[02:17] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: sadly it's not the default everywhere, so there are still sharp edges to it
[02:17] <cfhowlett> Shira, http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1623-9-best-practices-to-secure-your-linux-desktop-and-server
[02:18] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: the LVM encryption is full-disk, yes. The homedir is not, it is ecryptfs.
[02:18] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, no probs, good luck with the frest install, probably the best option at this point :)
[02:18] <Shira> poppy_liveloop yes on the ubuntu setup screen you cna select encryption and the other box is checked via LVM
[02:19] <tigris_> Willx: select mozilla in the task bar, hit alt-space and then hit m, and then you can assume you are in move mode and the arrow keys are moving your window, so keep pressing up or down or whatever until you see it
[02:19] <Shira> poppy_liveloop when i boot ubuntu i need to enter my pw, then i get a cryptsetup successfully message and than the boot screen loads
[02:20] <tigris_> Willx: i believe it's a common "linux" thing if you are unplugging external displays quite a bit, i have found apps won't always get re-jigged to the displayable areas
[02:22] <Shira> poppy_liveloop i dont know if that is correct and full hdd encryption from LVM
[02:22] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: cool, sounds like it's working for you then
[02:22] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: yes, LVM is correct full-disk block level encryption
[02:22] <Shira> poppy_liveloop ah soo is that pw screen from LVM?
[02:24] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: LVM is not the encryption system, that's just the Logical Volume Manager. This is a disk management system that separates logical volumes from physical disks, so that the raw disk can be encrypted, but then appears to be a normal disk to user apps when in use
[02:24] <Willx> I am currently downloading NDISWrapper and WINE in hopes that I can get my NetGear Wireless card to work. Could you perhaps help me with that?
[02:25] <Shira> poppy_liveloop soo my hdd is now full encrypted (because the pw before ubuntu boot screen or before the boot screen load)
[02:25] <tigris_> anyone got ideas on apt-get update hanging with "0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)]"? I suspect related to ipv6, not sure why my host started using ipv6 by default, i can't ping that ipv6 address either, but i can ping others using ping6
[02:26] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: yes, assuming you used the common dm-crypt method
[02:26] <barrett> i have a server "mainframe" which has a folder, with all the files owned by barrett:barrett, this folder is shared via nfs (r+w) and mounted on another machine 'htpc', with users barrett and xbmc.  barrett@htpc can write to this share, but xbmc@htpc cannot.  even though xbmc@htpc is in the barrett group, and the folders in question are all 775.  what gives?
[02:26] <daftykins> tigris_: yeah, seems stuck on trying to resolve IPv6 addresses for the repo domains perhaps.
[02:26] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: more info on dm-crypt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm-crypt
[02:27] <daftykins> tigris_: if you 'nslookup us.archive.ubuntu.com' does it give only v4 addresses in response?
[02:27] <Shira> poppy_liveloop idk i have only select the encryption and LVM box on the ubuntu setup
[02:27] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: if you REALLY want to check your disk, don't take my word for it. Boot from a USB key and try to mount the disk, and inspect the blocks to see if they look the same as an unencrypted disk
[02:27] <tigris_> daftykins: yes, only ipv4 in the nslookup, can ping those ipv4 addresses fine
[02:28] <Shira> poppy_liveloop good idea i try it out and big thanks for your help and sorry if i have steald your time
[02:28] <Shira> also big thanks to the other users they have helped me
[02:28] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: if you have spare USB disks around that you can format, try inserting them, formatting them as encrypted using the process you used, and then try reading them in another computer
[02:29] <joeb> barrett: Do the user IDs match?
[02:29] <barrett> joeb, i am not aware of user IDs
[02:29] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: no problem. Despite what others might say, it's worth learning about security
[02:29] <daftykins> tigris_: hrmm, so it seems you need a way to stop your system using IPv6 then things will update fine
[02:30] <tigris_> daftykins: perhaps, if ubuntu ipv6 addresses are not stable
[02:30] <barrett> joeb, the user ids between barrett@mainframe and barrett@htpc?  or barrett@htpc and xbmc@htpc?
[02:30] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: keep learning by trying more things :)
[02:30] <daftykins> tigris_: well, i've no idea about that as my ISP still has yet to support v6 sadly, but if it's stalling (yet somehow knows an IP for that US repo) then it must be struggling. can you ping6 the v6 address it gives?
[02:31] <tigris_> daftykins: i can not ping6 the ipv6 addresses relating to us.archive.ubuntu.com... but i can successfully ping6 other ipv6 addresses
[02:34] <daftykins> tigris_: mm that's definitely an issue. you could either try changing your repos or force IPv4 only then i guess
[02:42] <xxx> Hello all
[02:43] <xxx> help me
[02:43] <cfhowlett> !details|xxx
[02:44] <qgewfg> who can tell me how can i modify my nickname?
[02:44] <xxx> i have problen with Ubuntu 10.04 (standard installation)
[02:44] <cfhowlett> !nick|qgewfg,
[02:44] <xxx> when i start Ubuntu
[02:44] <cfhowlett> xxx, 10.04 has reached end of life ... use 12.04
[02:45] <cfhowlett> !eol|xxx
[02:45] <xxx> i getting a error die /usr/schuh/kalk.b
[02:45] <Justin> 3Q
[02:45] <Justin> I'm qgewfg, I changed my nickname
[02:46] <cfhowlett> xxx, dude do you even read these responses?  10.04 is end of life.  dead.  not supported.
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !de|xxx
[02:47] <din2> nick din_
[02:47] <xxx> i try use boot-repair-cd but problem still a gain
[02:47] <Justin> whois xxx
[02:47] <Justin> !whois xxx
[02:48] <cfhowlett> xxx if you won't use a supported version of ubuntu ... then you will get no support.  sorry .  life is cruel that way.
[02:48] <ka4tik> whois xxx
[02:48] <xxx> Ubuntu 10.4
[02:49] <poppy_liveloop> cfhowlett: 10.04 server is supported until 2015
[02:49] <nathanbz> is't 10.04 LTS
[02:49] <nathanbz> > >
[02:50] <nathanbz> so still supported lol
[02:50] <xxx> UBUNTU 10.04 (standard installation)
[02:50] <VsioZashibis> greetings! any eta on when ubuntu forums are back online ?
[02:50] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, :)  thanks
[02:50] <poppy_liveloop> nathanbz: LTS desktop is only 3 years
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> VsioZashibis, No, #ubuntuforums #ubuntu-offtopic are info areas they have just the splash info.
[02:51] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: there are several ubuntu 10.04, there is no "standard"
[02:51] <cfhowlett> VsioZashibis, they have said when.  expect an announcement to follow
[02:51] <cfhowlett> *haven't*
[02:51] <qin> cfhowlett: art of information
[02:53] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: what problem are you having? it is unclear from your description of "error die /usr/schuh/kalk.b"
[02:53] <xxx> @<poppy_liveloop> yes
[02:53] <xxx> when i start computer the error is show
[02:56] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: on the screen? or over a network connection?
[02:56] <poppy_liveloop> doh
[02:56] <poppy_liveloop> goodbye, vietnam
[02:57] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, ???
[02:57] <poppy_liveloop> cfhowlett: that was not a german user, that was a vietnamese user
[02:57] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, d'oh!
[02:57] <poppy_liveloop> cfhowlett: http://whois.domaintools.com/113.162.127.160
[02:58] <poppy_liveloop> who probably is on an already shaky connection and using out-of-date, broken free software
[02:59] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, no to mention all kinds of internet blocks.  Random experience in Beijing, so many cash registers still on WinXP
[03:00] <xxx> hello  <poppy_liveloop>
[03:01] <cfhowlett> !vn|xxx
[03:01] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: hello!
[03:02] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: are you seeing the error onscreen? what part of startup is your computer getting to? Is the error on a text console, or is the error after graphics have loaded, or is it after you have logged in?
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> poppy_liveloop, I don't care if you help them, however this problem is nothing compared to no repo access, I would get them to understand the position their are in first
[03:04] <excelsiora> hello! I need to rip audio from a dvd so my wife can listen to her practice dvd on her mp3 player. Suggestions?
[03:04] <herbijudlestoids> hi guys, we setup a NFS server yesterday on ubuntu 12.04.2, the only non-default config is that we arent running swap and have bonded NICs
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> excelsiora, brasero rips, there are others
[03:05] <herbijudlestoids> i set the server to copy 14TB of data from another NFS server, set up in an identical fashion, on identical hardware
[03:05] <herbijudlestoids> overnight the new NFS server kernel panicd messages about ksoftirqd
[03:05] <herbijudlestoids> the original server seems fine
[03:05] <poppy_liveloop> wilee-nilee: coincidentally, i had a friend tell me just a few days ago that the 10.04 update repo breaks machines
[03:05] <herbijudlestoids> is there any way for me to ascertain what caused the panic?
[03:05] <excelsiora> wilee-nilee: i'll look at it.
[03:06] <herbijudlestoids> iv looked in /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kern.log, etc without seeing anything obvious
[03:06] <herbijudlestoids> there is no core file in /
[03:06] <herbijudlestoids> help muchly appreciated
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> poppy_liveloop, People have run giui upgrades and bricked their OS, not using the eol upgrades.
[03:06] <excelsiora> wilee-nilee: I just need the audio, so it looks like brasero is no good for me, it's a burner software.
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> gui*
[03:07] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: well, it sure sounds like the machines aren't all that identical ;)
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> excelsiora, That may be the case, I have not had to rip and single out tunes so not sure really.
[03:09] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man9/ksoftirqd.9.html
[03:09] <excelsiora> There's two acts broken down into a lot of tracks, and if I could preserve those sub-tracks so she could fast forward through the talking scenes that would be great.
[03:10] <herbijudlestoids> poppy_liveloop: thats an interesting link
[03:10] <herbijudlestoids> unfortunately im not a hardware guy
[03:10] <herbijudlestoids> so i have NFI what that means
[03:10] <herbijudlestoids> the machines were setup using the same preseed file, they are the same underlying hardware, they are the _same_
[03:10]  * cfhowlett ... adds "NFI" to personal dictionary for future deployment.
[03:11] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: something on the one machine caused soft interrupts to trigger ksoftirqd (a kernel thread) which got into some kind of strange situation and caused a panic
[03:12] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: the short version is that I would do hardware test on all of the cores in the new machine
[03:12] <jacks> Getting locale default message on installation
[03:12] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: memtest86 should be a good place to start
[03:13] <herbijudlestoids> memtest is for memory, no? when you say cores i assume youre referring to the CPUs
[03:13] <Zhenjin> Anyone know what i'm doing wrong? http://imgur.com/EAzdqZt
[03:13] <herbijudlestoids> appreciating the help :)
[03:14] <herbijudlestoids> we are using nfs-kernel-server
[03:15] <herbijudlestoids> thanks guys
[03:15] <herbijudlestoids> i will run some hardware tests
[03:16] <Justin> hello everyone!
[03:16] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: it will usually wind up striping your CPUs with the same memory patterns, it is parallel
[03:16] <herbijudlestoids> ok again, NFI what that means, but thanks
[03:16] <herbijudlestoids> :)
[03:16] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: and that usually winds up testing the memory, which could also be the problem, and parts of your motherboard
[03:17] <Justin> quit
[03:18] <excelsiora> all: does this advice seem up to date?: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-rip-dvd-audio-to-mp3-or-ogg.html
[03:19] <hualet_deepin> exit
[03:19] <excelsiora> transcode and lsdvd?
[03:19] <excelsiora> lol
[03:24] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: i would think that handbrake would do it
[03:24] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: but i dont have experience with dvd audio
[03:29] <excelsiora> poppy_liveloop: any thoughts on how to get ahold of libdvdcss for ubuntu?
[03:29] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: that's between you and google ;)
[03:30] <chasesw83> need help.... getting this error in terminal,      sudo: unknown uid 1000: who are you?
[03:31] <Rarrikins> Is it possible to get the standard shell login password-prompting program or library to be memory resident and not swappable to disk?
[03:33] <excelsiora> poppy_liveloop: it turned out that I could get that by following instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs (libdvdread4 was already installed)
[03:34] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: nice
[03:34] <chasesw83> need help.... getting this error in terminal,      sudo: unknown uid 1000: who are you?   what do i do
[03:34] <chasesw83> seems only thing google returns is in ubuntu forums that are down still
[03:36] <excelsiora> chasesw83: you can still see cached versions of those pages, if you're persistent
[03:37] <chasesw83> excelsiora: how would i find those
[03:38] <excelsiora> Can anyone give me a shell script that could loop through the acts on a dvd and give me each chapter of each act as a separate mp3?
[03:38] <excelsiora> or point me to an example of shell loops? I'll... just google it myself...
[03:38] <clue_h> chasesw83,  small green arrow from google, next to the link
[03:39] <chasesw83> clue_h: ah thank you going to try that now
[03:40] <mrdeb> hi, how do u limit size of log files in var/log
[03:45] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: http://scruss.com/blog/2008/08/03/ripping-dvd-audio-with-ubuntu/
[03:53] <mrdeb> hi, how do u limit size of log files in var/log
[03:54] <naryfa> can anybody help me with grub? With:    sudo grub-install /dev/sda             I get: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[03:54] <evillase> besides /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-49 and /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-49-generic what other kernel header package can i install to get files in /usr/include?
[03:55] <gag_> Hi there..?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !grub | naryfa
[03:59] <l3n0x> Hello IRC Ubuntu World!
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, This from a install or live cd?
[04:00] <gag_> i have booting problem on ubuntu 12.04
[04:00] <l3n0x> Why is it I got slow transfer rate when copying files from ext4 to NTFS partition?
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> gag_, Can you describe the problem to the channel?
[04:01] <gag_> while i m booting its directly going to ROOT
[04:01] <reisio> l3n0x: compared to what?
[04:01] <holstein> gag_: root user? the root of the drive?
[04:02] <gag_> root of the drive ...its showing like root@sys3:#
[04:02] <holstein> gag_: it?
[04:03] <l3n0x> reisio: I only got 75kB/s on average...
[04:03] <holstein> gag_: what operating system are you using? when did you install it? how did you install it.. when did it start doing whatever its doing?
[04:03] <reisio> l3n0x: compared to what?
[04:03] <l3n0x> it's on 1 HDD, isn't it suppose to be faster then that??
[04:03] <reisio> l3n0x: you're actually recreating it in another filesystem
[04:04] <l3n0x> It even faster when I download directly from the internet (13mB/s)
[04:04] <gag_> holstein: i am using ubuntu12.04,i installed 2months back,i installed from CD,
[04:04] <holstein> gag_: and you get automatically logged in as root user?
[04:04] <reisio> l3n0x: that's transferring data from your network device to your hard disk
[04:05] <l3n0x> so are you saying that it's better for me to download it directly to the NTFS partition from the internet?
[04:05] <reisio> l3n0x: ...as opposed to what you're doing now, which is effectively doubling the job of the mechanics of your hard disk
[04:05] <reisio> it has to copy, then write
[04:05] <reisio> then copy, then write
[04:05] <reisio> over and over
[04:05] <reisio> instead of just writing
[04:05] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:05] <reisio> FloodBot1: suck an egg
[04:05] <gag_> holstein: its not logged in to ubuntu just its showing command mode
[04:06] <holstein> gag_: i dont understand what you mean
[04:06] <syn-ack> So, it's dropping into single user mode instead of your environment
[04:06] <syn-ack> that's what you're saying, right gag?
[04:06] <holstein> gag_: when i run "sudo -i" in a terminal, i get "root@aphrodite:~#" for example, which looks like what you are getting
[04:06] <l3n0x> reisio: IC, so there's no problem with my transfer rate then...?
[04:06] <syn-ack> gag_: What is your syslog telling you?
[04:07] <gag_> syn-ack: yes  exactly
[04:07] <holstein> syn-ack: OH.. yeah, i agree with where you are going..
[04:07] <gag_> its in single user mode
[04:07] <reisio> l3n0x: that's harder to say
[04:07] <syn-ack> gag_: have you reviewed your logs? Something's not init'ing
[04:08] <l3n0x> reisio: What is the normal transfer rate for copying files from ext4 to NTFS?
[04:08] <syn-ack> What does dmesg tell you?
[04:08] <reisio> l3n0x: good question
[04:08] <usr13> gag_: As syn-ack points out, you should take a look at syslog;  cat /var/log/syslog
[04:08] <syn-ack> SOmething very early on isn't init'ing
[04:08] <l3n0x> reisio: I tried drag n drop copy with Nautilus, it's even worse, so I use rsync and I got 75kB/s
[04:08] <usr13> gag_: Share with us anything that looks interesting.
[04:09] <WhohastheEdge> I wish Ubuntu/Canonical would give out some more info regarding the planned boot process / which process their going with.
[04:10] <l3n0x> reisio: Thanks reisio, I'll try on another machine and check the TR
[04:10] <gag_> Filesystem check or mount failed. A maintenance shell will now be started. CONTROL-D will terminate this shell and continue booting after re-trying filesystems. Any further errors will be ignored.
[04:10] <usr13> WhohastheEdge: Have you gotten wind there is a change coming?
[04:10] <syn-ack> gag_: so its not mounting /
[04:11] <syn-ack> why?
[04:11] <gag_> this is the error i m getting
[04:11] <syn-ack> gag_: fsck /
[04:11] <syn-ack> then badblock it
[04:11] <holstein> gag_: that could be a bad hard drive
[04:11] <syn-ack> or it could be that there's something going on with the filesystem
[04:11] <usr13> syn-ack: gag_  shutdown -F -r   #Will force filesystem check on reboot.
[04:11] <gag_> so what is the solution..?
[04:12] <holstein> gag_: the fsck suggestion
[04:12] <holstein> !fsck
[04:12] <holstein> gag_: and its not a "solution". you will just test til you determine the issue, which might be that the hard drive is "bad"
[04:12] <syn-ack> usr13: I know the shutdown command, but it's already unmounted so there's no point in a reboot, just do it offline
[04:12] <l3n0x> gag_: back up your files, and re=install Ubuntu :)
[04:13] <Woofcat> Hey, QQ guys. Is there a UbuntuEdge channel?
[04:13] <syn-ack> he's got a busybox shell and that's all he needs at this point
[04:13] <usr13> hummm  Looks like the factoid says that -r is all that is needed.  Did they do away with -F ?
[04:13] <syn-ack> forces
[04:13] <syn-ack> usr13: no
[04:14] <syn-ack> I didn't see who it came from usr13. Sorry.
[04:14] <usr13> syn-ack: Yea, if the partition is not mounted, then yea, just fsck it.
[04:14] <syn-ack> usr13: he's dropping into single user at boot because he cant mount /
[04:14] <syn-ack> so do it all offline. no biggie
[04:14] <usr13> syn-ack: the factoid says to do "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now"
[04:15] <syn-ack> usr13: the /forcfsk is the samething as -F
[04:15] <syn-ack> he can't touch it though since he can't mount /
[04:15] <usr13> syn-ack:  I thought    "sudo shutdown -F -r now"  would do it.  (Maybe I'm wong.)
[04:15] <syn-ack> so either he does it offline or he does it line youre suggesting
[04:15] <piggazoid> anybody know how to adjust overscan and underscan with nvidia card?
[04:16] <usr13> I do not think it's a good idea to try and fsck a mounted filesystem.
[04:16] <syn-ack> its not mounted
[04:16] <usr13> He could boot a liveCD and do it.
[04:16] <syn-ack> IT IS OFFLINE
[04:16] <usr13> Ok
[04:16] <syn-ack> he can't mount //
[04:17] <syn-ack> usr13: fsck / from that shell you're in now
[04:18] <syn-ack> You would actually have to call your block device manually since there's no mtab, either
[04:18] <syn-ack> so whatever your /path/to/the/device/is
[04:19] <usr13> syn-ack: I thought you did filesystems instead of directories.  i.e.  fsdk sda1
[04:19] <gag_> hey guys..i am getting same error again i tried sudo shutdown -F -r now this command
[04:19] <usr13> I always just use    fsck -y
[04:19] <syn-ack> usr13: you don't need to have a mounted filesystem for Grub to find and inflate a kernel image. I never mount my server /boot unless it's time for a kernel update
[04:20] <syn-ack> usr13: everything, including devices are seen by the linux and UNIX kernels as file.
[04:20] <higgy> hello
[04:20] <syn-ack> the only time it's not is when you're dealing with grub then its (0,0)
[04:21] <holstein> gag_: you will, til you repair either the file system, or determine the hardware has failed, and replace it
[04:21] <syn-ack> usr13: so it would still have a path to the block device since it's in the /sys tree
[04:21] <usr13> syn-ack: You are correct.  Mount points can be fscked as well as partitions.  Just that I've always checked the whole partition.
[04:22] <usr13> I've never figured out why I wouldn't check the whole partition.
[04:22] <syn-ack> usr13: in this case it's better to just scan the whole block device.
[04:22] <usr13> I agree
[04:22] <syn-ack> ANd he's not checking the mount point.
[04:23] <syn-ack> he's checking the device for the reasons I stated above.
[04:23] <usr13>  / is a mount point.
[04:23] <syn-ack> Did you see what I told him afterward?
[04:23] <usr13> I may have missed that.
[04:23] <gag_> anybody replying to me...????
[04:23] <syn-ack> I told him to use /the/path/to/the/device
[04:24] <syn-ack> gag_: we sure did. Read above.
[04:24] <holstein> gag_: i did.. did you see it? you'll need to test/repair the file system, or determine the hard drive is failed
[04:24] <gag_> holstein: how to do it..??
[04:25] <syn-ack> usr13: * xrandr (~keithwinn@unaffiliated/slade) has joined #ubuntu
 usr13: fsck / from that shell you're in now
 You would actually have to call your block device manually since there's no mtab, either
[04:25] <syn-ack> * KAmpF3r (~Kampferin@189.251.75.0) has joined #ubuntu
 so whatever your /path/to/the/device/is
[04:25] <FloodBot1> syn-ack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <holstein> !fsck | gag_ this is what i refer to
[04:25] <holstein> gag_: or, i use a live CD with diagnostic tools
[04:26] <gag_> sudo touch /fastboot when i try this command its showing cannot touch
[04:27] <syn-ack> right
[04:27] <syn-ack> gag_: you don't have anything mounted.
[04:27] <syn-ack> sigh
[04:27] <piggazoid> does anybody know how to adjust overscan and underscan with nvidia card?
[04:27] <usr13> holstein: We looked at that earlier and were discussing the uptions.  Looks like the preferred one is "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now"
[04:27] <syn-ack> usr13: he can't
[04:27] <gag_> tell me exact solution
[04:27] <holstein> gag_: thats another reason why i might use a live CD..
[04:28] <holstein> gag_: the *exact* solution is still up for you to determine with testing
[04:28] <syn-ack> He doesn't have anything mounted to the root directory. He can do everything he needs to right from that console if he were to just listen to what I had to say
[04:28] <usr13> syn-ack: He can't   fsck /dev/sda1 ?
[04:28] <usr13> (I would do it from liveCD
[04:28] <syn-ack> he can do that right from where he's at
[04:28] <Coburn> MAKE SURE FILESYSTEM IS UNMOUNTED BEFORE FSCKING ANYTHING
[04:28] <holstein> well, i might use a live CD, just cause it might be easier
[04:28] <Coburn> OR ELSE DATA GO BYE BYES
[04:28] <holstein> Coburn: it literally cant be mounted
[04:29] <syn-ack> it should be in the busybox binary that's loaded, usr13
[04:29] <Coburn> Well, you CAN fsck a mounted partition but boom
[04:29] <Coburn> corruption
[04:29] <syn-ack> sigh
[04:29] <usr13> I think fsck tells you it wont
[04:29] <syn-ack> I really wish people would read scroll
[04:29] <holstein> Coburn: sure.. but, the issue is, the file system is *not* mounted.. no mounting. so the suggestion is, to fsck
[04:30] <usr13> Coburn: Anyway, we've already discussed not fscking a mounted filesystem.
[04:30] <syn-ack> gag_: do me a favor
[04:30] <syn-ack> from your console, type "fsck" without the quotes, of course.
[04:31] <syn-ack> Nothing after it, just fsck
[04:31] <syn-ack> what does it tell you?
[04:32] <piggazoid> anybody know how to adjust overscan and underscan with nvidia card?
[04:32] <syn-ack> fsck should barf out an error about needing a target.
[04:32] <usr13> If the filesystem is mounted, fsck says,  "/dev/sdaX is mounted. e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting."
[04:32] <syn-ack> usr13: good
[04:32] <syn-ack> so we know it's in your busybox
[04:33] <holstein> piggazoid: i just use the included GUI to create an xorg.conf, and if the settings are not in the GUI, i try to manually edit the xorg.conf file after it is generated
[04:33] <syn-ack> err.
[04:33] <syn-ack> you did it again, usr13
[04:33] <syn-ack> heh
[04:33] <gag_> fsck from util-l linux
[04:33] <syn-ack> GOG
[04:33] <usr13> But it does try and check available partitions.    ... what did I do again?
[04:33] <setuid> Open question: I've got  lots of bandwidth and disk space and want to mirror some OSS projects that could use the help; PHP, PuTTY, FreeBSD, Cygwin, LDP, CPAN, etc. Anyone know of some others I can help out with?
[04:33] <syn-ack> hrm
[04:33] <syn-ack> interesting. let me look something up, gag
[04:34]  * syn-ack pops out the manpage
[04:35] <usr13> Which partition is gag_ having problems with?  Does anyone know?
[04:35] <Seven_Six_Two> I've added my usb key to fstab, but it's mounted root:root and I can't write to it. Here's my fstab line:
[04:35] <syn-ack> GOOOD
[04:35] <syn-ack> HOLD ON
[04:35] <Seven_Six_Two> UUID=887D-F4FA                          /media/Aegis-3  vfat    rw,noexec,noatime,user        0       0
[04:35] <syn-ack> it's installed
[04:35] <holstein> !chown | Seven_Six_Two
[04:35] <syn-ack> usr13: /
[04:36] <syn-ack> where
[04:36] <syn-ack> d he go
[04:36] <usr13> syn-ack: / is a mount point.  I asked what partition it was.
[04:36] <Seven_Six_Two> holstein, chown: changing ownership of `./Aegis-3': Operation not permitted
[04:36] <syn-ack> yeah, it's been a long day.
[04:36] <holstein> Seven_Six_Two: you can read about it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Create_A_Mount_Point
[04:36] <syn-ack> usr13: when he comes back, page me. I'm going for a smoke
[04:36] <usr13> syn-ack: Ok
[04:37] <holstein> Seven_Six_Two: sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive ..or the other way mentioned
[04:37] <knight3332> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and when I download torrent file using transmission bittorrent client I get a window with msg "choose an application" but no bitorrent on the list?
[04:37] <usr13> holstein: He can just do root:users
[04:37] <holstein> knight3332: i would just open transmission, and open the torrent
[04:38] <usr13> holstein: Or    username:users
[04:38] <holstein> usr13: you want to just direct that to the nick?
[04:38] <Seven_Six_Two> holstein, that's what I did.
[04:38] <holstein> Seven_Six_Two: if you are getting an error, share the error message
[04:39] <holstein> Seven_Six_Two: or, try the other options at the link i gave.. or what usr13 is suggeesting
[04:39] <Seven_Six_Two> holstein, chown: changing ownership of `/media/Aegis-3': Operation not permitted
[04:39] <syn-ack> back
[04:39] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: holstein  If it is vfat,  I don't think it matters, (you can not assign ownership/permissions to it.
[04:40] <Seven_Six_Two> usr13, it's vfat (usb keys) and ok, is there another way for a non-root user to write to it?
[04:40] <syn-ack> usr13: but yeah, when the system fails to mount it's root and resorts to it's rescue console, that console is a busybox session and as such it has most of the userland compiled into it
[04:40] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: The fstab entry you have looks ok.  Not sure why you can't write to it.
[04:41] <SunStar> sudo chown
[04:41] <SunStar> or sudo su then chown
[04:41] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions mentions vfat Seven_Six_Two ..i dont use vfat
[04:42] <qin> SunStar: ...
[04:42] <syn-ack> thus allowing the user to perform system maintenance without actually having to have the system online. It's actually a clone of the old UNIX method of system recovery.
[04:43] <syn-ack> usr13: in very few cases, should one actually have to rely on a rescue disk.
[04:44] <usr13> syn-ack: This may be one of those cases.  (Sometimes it's just easier.)
[04:45] <usr13> I'm a pretty big fan of boot-disks
[04:45] <syn-ack> usr13: meh, they're gonna have to learn proper system administration sometime.
[04:46] <usr13> I suppose you've got a valid point there ;0
[04:46] <qin> Seven_Six_Two: pmount
[04:48] <syn-ack> usr13: chances are, it's nothing too major.... More than likely the kernel couldnt reconcile the journal and puked. probably just needs to have it rebuilt and for some reason, mount was kicking it out
[04:48] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: Shouldn't need to be root to write to it. But one thing I don't like is your mount point.  Why did you choose /media/Aegis-3 ?  (Why not /home/Seven_Six_Two/Aegis-3 ?)
[04:49] <syn-ack> usr13: doesn't explain why fsck's counter didn't trip in the first place, but yeah
[04:49] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: If it were me, I woun't  want to perminately mount something in /media/
[04:49] <usr13> syn-ack: true...
[04:51] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: But I've not seen the error message you are getting.  Really though.  Why don't you create a mount point in your ~/  directory?
[04:53] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: Even when I do a nfs share, I just place it in /home/usr13/  Like /home/usr13/Videos  and same on client and server.  Simple. Right?  (Or on the client it could be /home/mom/usr13s-Videos )  Something like that....
[04:54] <usr13> Are we in a netsplit?
[04:55] <syn-ack> Looks like it
[04:56] <usr13> syn-ack: I never now, I have my client ignore most everything.  It's just to much stuff going by, especially on a busy channel
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> sorry... I was reading. I mounted it there because this script will be run by cron, and I don't want it in my home. The problem (I just discovered) was that I needed to add "uid=1000,gid=1000" to the mount options in fstab. It defaults to root, and that's how to change it.
[04:56] <syn-ack> usr13: seems to be a fairly minor one, if so
[04:56] <usr13> yea
[04:57] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: Ok, good.  Glad you told us.
[04:59] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: Even though you don't want it in /home/  I still don't like it being in /media/ I would make a mount ponit elsewhere, maybe even just /
[05:00] <usr13> I dono, that's just me I guess.
[05:02] <usr13> I often make those type decisions based on what partition I want something to be on.
[05:03] <usr13> Well, that's not true either.  It's late.  I gotta turn in.
[05:04] <GigaWarez> how is everyone tonight?
[05:04] <heikoS_> are there any rss clients (besides the mail clients with rss support) that have filters? example: I'd like to autmatically delete all items that are from author foo and contain the word bar.
[05:05] <yax51> Hello
[05:05] <yax51> I need some help as the forums are down :(
[05:06] <yax51> I am having issues with DVD playback, the screen gets all shaky and the quality is poor
[05:06] <yax51> I have used the proprietary drivers and don't know what else to do
[05:07] <yax51> I know there is a fix somewhere
[05:07] <yax51> and I'm using 12.04
[05:11] <ceci> exit
[05:11] <yax51> exit?
[05:14] <ceci> New using irssi
[05:17] <yax51> aaah gotcha, anyway I got it fixed :)
[05:18] <brahmana> Hi.. I am using a 4G USB Modem to access internet. There is a helper applicatin to drive the device provided by the ISP
[05:18] <brahmana> When using this helper application, the network manager is unaware of the connection and says I am not connected.
[05:19] <brahmana> How can I tell network manager that I am actually connected to the internet?
[05:19] <daya> I have a problem, when I install new kernel GRUB waits for selection of kernel in First reboot  and in next reboot it doesnot any idea?
[05:19] <brahmana> The problem is with Ubuntu Software Center where I cannot install any software (currently trying to install VLC) because I am not connected to the internet.
[05:20] <rannonga> daya, what do you mean and how did you install the kernel?
[05:20] <brahmana> Is there a way to tell Software Center and/or the network manager that I am actually connected to the internet?
[05:20] <rannonga> daya, also what release are you running?
[05:21] <rannonga> brahman, try running sudo apt-get update from terminal
[05:21] <daya> rannonga: dpkg -i <linux-hearder---*> 12.04, and I upgraded the kernel to 3.5
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> brahmana, Does the usb device show with running lsusb
[05:21] <brahmana> rannonga: How would that help me?
[05:21] <rannonga> i dont know
[05:22] <daya> rannonga: In First reboot I do have a choice of selecting kernel, and in next it goes out
[05:22] <th0r> brahmana, that third party software probably isn't communicating with network manager. I would not be surprised if you have to choose...either use the third party manager or network manager, but not both
[05:22] <brahmana> wilee-nilee: yes - Bus 002 Device 006: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E398 LTE/UMTS/GSM Modem/Networkcard
[05:22] <GigaWarez> what would be the best way to share files between two ubuntu boxes on the same network?
[05:22] <brahmana> th0r: I do not want to use the network manager here because it misses some of the specifics for this device-ISP combination
[05:23] <rannonga> daya, I would suggest going to the website http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and downloading the files manually
[05:23] <rannonga> for the kernel release that you want
[05:23] <brahmana> th0r: Had tried that earlier, but the connection kept breaking. So had to switch to the app provided by ISP
[05:23] <th0r> brahmana, if you disable it and just use the third party software, can you connect OK?
[05:24] <ScaroDj> Hi! I got the email about the forums and keys, but I have no idea which of my passwords I used, is there a way to know?
[05:24] <brahmana> th0r: haven't tried that. However the problem is not with connection itself. The connection is all fine. I am now connected with the same device.
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> ScaroDj, Not unless you saved the info.
[05:24] <th0r> brahmana, then I would just disable network manager as it isn't really doing anything for you anyway
[05:25] <brahmana> th0r: I just want the Software Center to not rely on what network-manager says and allow me to install the software
[05:25] <rannonga> daya, are you on the website?
[05:25] <th0r> brahmana, aha...I don't use software center, so didn't realize it is connected to nm
[05:25] <daya> rannonga: yeah
[05:25] <rannonga> daya, ok so are you 64 or 32 bit
[05:26] <ScaroDj> wilee-nilee, Oh, bummer! Well, since it's a forum I don't think there's anything sensible to protect anywhere else. Thanks!
[05:26] <varunendra> ScaroDj, it is best to change all your passwords which you are not sure about.
[05:26] <brahmana> th0r: I can just use apt-get. But I thought going through Software Center would place the app in the right category and provide some other goodies.
[05:26] <daya> rannonga: Actually I have a very strange problem,  I have written an upgrade script for upgrading 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS offline
[05:27] <ScaroDj> varunendra, yes indeed O.O
[05:27] <rannonga> could you show me it?
[05:27] <daya> rannonga: yeah,
[05:27] <th0r> brahmana, you might try just killing network manager ( it is nm-applet in the ps list) and see if that helps
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> ScaroDj, If you have read the splash shown  if you go to the site and are sure you have not used the same password in your email used there you are probably okay, however watch for spam on that email address.
[05:28] <brahmana> th0r: will try that
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> or any other places the same password ScaroDj
[05:28] <th0r> brahmana, if you just kill that process, it will start as usual on reboot so no harm done
[05:28] <brahmana> th0r: cool
[05:28]  * brahmana wonders why ubuntu forums had to go down right when he was opening a post on nm..!
[05:29] <daya> rannonga: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910063/
[05:29] <rannonga> thx daya
[05:30] <rannonga> so daya, did this script work?
[05:31] <brahmana> th0r: sudo stop network-manager did it. Software Center now allows me to install..:)
[05:31] <daya> rannonga: it worked, and I do hava next script for upgrading 12.04 to latest pkg, that I have downloaded
[05:31] <l3n0x> whois l3n0x
[05:32] <th0r> brahmana, every now and then...I have a moment <smile>
[05:32] <rannonga> ok so i'm assuming you can log in to 12.04
[05:33] <mfdl> has anyone experience problems with uprecords (uptimed) double reporting sessions?
[05:33] <brahmana> th0r: :) .. thank you.. may you have many more such moments..!
[05:33] <daya> rannonga: I have only a minor problem, after the script after-install.sh run successfuuly, and it restart it wait on the grub screen for the Return key, I want it to automatically boots
[05:33] <rannonga> daya, how long did you wait for it?
[05:34] <rannonga> cause it just sounds like a timer
[05:34] <daya> rannonga: I have wait few minutes
[05:34] <rannonga> oh
[05:34] <daya> rannonga: It wait for the return key
[05:35] <daya> rannonga: But in next reboot it doesnot show the choice
[05:35] <daya> rannonga: boot automatically to latest kernel,
[05:35] <rannonga> isnt that good?
[05:36] <rannonga> if it actually boots into ubuntu I wouldn't be worrying
[05:36] <daya> rannonga: I need an update script that will remotely upgrade the ubuntu 10.04 LTS to 12.04 offline
[05:37] <daya> rannonga: There is no one to hit the enter key for next reboot that the problem :)
[05:37] <rannonga> daya, so wait, let me get this right it boots into ubuntu 10.04 not 12.04
[05:38] <rannonga> ?
[05:39] <daya> rannonga: It boot to ubuntu 12.04, no doubt, only problem is it wait for return key in next reload,
[05:40] <rannonga> daya, could you paste this file too? /etc/default/grub
[05:43] <daya> rannonga: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910080/
[05:45] <rannonga> daya, could you reboot again and tell me what happens?
[05:45] <rannonga> check if you see a gui
[05:45] <daya> rannonga: it does boot automatically
[05:46] <rannonga> so the only problem is the enter key thing?
[05:46] <twenty-three> hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm trying to compile a program with CUDA enabled. The instructions suggest using the latest version of GNU C compiler for it, however, when getting to the "sudo make install" i find an error relevant to CUDA being incompatible with GCC versions after 4.4 (currently using 4.7 which is the latest). I am following the instructions in...
[05:46] <twenty-three> ...this page if it helps: http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Installation_Instructions#2._Quick_and_dirty_installation
[05:47] <goddard> I have a small challenge if anyone is up to the task why is different about these imagse? https://spideroak.com/storage/I5XWIZDBOJSA/shared/649575-1-1004/linux-logo.png?1fb42d9f96956034bebd6ec6cfe016b1 and this one https://spideroak.com/storage/I5XWIZDBOJSA/shared/649575-1-1003/linux-logo-2.png?dd0032ca5eb656393a9ceb80e7408d2c
[05:47] <varunendra> daya, have you tried "sudo update-grub" ??
[05:47] <daya> varunendra: yes,
[05:47] <daya> rannonga: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910086/
[05:47] <varunendra> Your default file seems perfectly normal
[05:49] <daya> rannonga: varunendra It work perfectly if I run the script in two phase: 1). Upgrade to 12.04 2). And then install the 3.5 krerne, but there is problme doing in one shot, keeping the script in rc2.d
[05:49] <rannonga> daya, i would seriously recommend getting a new kernel manually
[05:50] <rannonga> say kernel 3.5.something
[05:50] <varunendra> daya, you don't want to do the update manually?
[05:50] <rannonga> hes already on 12.04, varu
[05:50] <daya> varunendra: yes
[05:50] <daya> rannonga: I am using predownloaded ver. linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic_3.5.0-23.35~precise1_amd64.deb
[05:52] <rannonga> daya, try going to http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.5.1-quantal/ and downloading linux headers amd64, image all, and image 64 files
[05:52] <rannonga> then make a new directory  cd into it and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:52] <varunendra> daya, let's see if the update part in the script worked. Pastebin of /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:53] <rannonga> varu, good idea except getting a new kernel should be the easiest way to make a proper grub config file
[05:54] <linuxmint> Hi, I've installed with Linux Mint 15 Olivia Mate 64-bit and reinstalled Virtualbox 4.2.10_Ubuntu r84101, however Fullscreen still won't work.
[05:55] <rannonga> linux mint, do you mean you cant change the res?
[05:56] <linuxmint> rannonga: well, I select Fullscreen in Virtualbox and the screen maximises in the monitor, but the Windows only fill 75% of the screen. I did the Install Guest Additions... thing, but LinuxMint/Virtualbox seem to have downloaded the guest additions to Downloads and doesn't do anything about it..like make the Windows OS in the VM full screen?
[05:57] <daya> rannonga: we need to sync the native kernel, that original 12.04 have, But alternate CD doesn't upgrade the kernel so we have to stick on linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic_3.5.0-23.35~precise1_amd64.deb
[05:57] <mumpitzel> linuxmint: you have installed a ubuntu package in mint and want help for it in #ubuntu?
[05:57] <mumpitzel> !mint
[05:57] <rannonga> !ubuntu
[05:57] <rannonga> lol
[05:58] <linuxmint> mumpitzel: I installed virtualbox for linux. The virtualbox about bit says it's an ubuntu version and virtualbox forum says this is an issue caused by ubuntu and to fix it with ubuntu.
[05:59] <mumpitzel> linuxmint: we do not support mint here. you can install whatever you want in mint but we still don't support it, sorry
[05:59] <rannonga> lol yeah gtfo
[05:59] <linuxmint> ubottu: I'm confused? Are you a bot? You said not to seek help here, but next says everyone's welcome?
[05:59] <mumpitzel> linuxmint: you are not running ubunt which is why it can't be a ubuntu issue. it might be a mint issue
[05:59] <rannonga> lol
[05:59] <twenty-three> hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm trying to compile a program with CUDA enabled. The instructions suggest using the latest version of GNU C compiler for it, however, when getting to the "sudo make install" i find an error relevant to CUDA being incompatible with GCC versions after 4.4 (currently using 4.7 which is the latest). I am following the instructions in...
[05:59] <twenty-three> ...this page if it helps: http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Installation_Instructions#2._Quick_and_dirty_installation
[06:00] <linuxmint> ubottu: okay, I'll try linux mint.
[06:00] <mumpitzel> twenty-three: when you have an error, pastebin the actual exact error. in your case some library (a CUDA one probably) is compiled with a different compiler than you currently use. you need to have everything compiled with the same compiler
[06:00]  * Charles-W8KWA looks at his new ubuntu server and wishes the mv command had a progress bar :(
[06:00] <rannonga> lol i was kicked for sarcasm
[06:01] <linuxmint> lol
[06:01] <mumpitzel> rannonga: no you were kicked for insulting people. imho you shouldn't have come back
[06:01] <IdleOne> rannonga: you were kicked for bad language, off topic comments, and being unhelpful.
[06:01] <linuxmint> sarcasm okay, insulting people not okay
[06:06] <twenty-three> mumzpitzel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910140/
[06:06]  * Charles-W8KWA is getting a crash corse in setting up ubuntu server
[06:07] <Charles-W8KWA> literaly the box fell on the floor tonight
[06:07] <mumpitzel> twenty-three: install gcc-4.6 and use it in your project
[06:08] <twenty-three> mumzpitzel: however, the gromacs developers suggest using the latest version for it. and from what i've read cuda compiling wont support GCC after 4.4
[06:08] <twenty-three> thus my confusion
[06:09] <mumpitzel> "latest" is simply a shitty term. latest at which point in time?
[06:10] <mumpitzel> and if you know what version of gcc to use, why do you still ask?
[06:11] <twenty-three> mumpitzel: i see your point, I was concerned the compiling might fail due to not using the "latest" so i thought maybe there would be a way around it like a way of using two versions, one for cuda and one for gromacs
[06:11] <twenty-three> i'll try 4.4, thanks for your time guys
[06:13] <mumpitzel> twenty-three: read your error message more carefully. it doesn't say anything about 4.4
[06:18] <Zespre> chihhsin: Hi
[06:23] <dragon121> list
[06:36] <BlitzHere> Hi all, I'm looking for a way to rip out music tracks from my CD collection to 320kbps mp3 files WITH album art. I'm on a P4, so the fewer the steps, the better. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance...
[06:39] <xxx> hello <poppy_liveloop>
[06:42] <xxx> could you help me find Ubuntu vietnam room
[06:43] <Rarrikins> xxx: #ubuntu-vn
[06:46] <xxx> thanks <Rarrikins>
[06:46] <Rarrikins> xxx: You're welcome.
 could you help me
[06:46] <xxx> i have problem with Ubuntu 10.4
[06:49] <Rarrikins> xxx: I'm not sure, but it's OK to ask your question to see if anyone can answer.
[06:49] <xxx> thanks
[06:50] <xxx> when i start Ubuntu
[06:50] <xxx> im getting a error Die /usr/schuh/kalk.b
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> xxx, Did you understand earlier that the 10.04 desktop is not supported?
[06:57] <xxx> @<wilee-nilee> i know, but this is very importan with me :(
[06:58] <auronandace> xxx: that doesn't change our support policy
[06:58] <wilee-nilee> xxx, Sure, however we can't help you period. However there is a end of life upgrade that you can follow, would you like that information?
[06:59] <xxx> @<auronandace> thanks
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[06:59] <mumpitzel> xxx: pastebin the exact error and the stuff before it
[07:00] <auronandace> xxx: you don't need to use @ in irc to highlight somebody
[07:00] <mumpitzel> xxx: Die /usr/schuh/kalk.b isn't really looking very sensible
[07:00] <xxx> but the software license we buy only run on Unbutu 10.4
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel, Keep in mind that this user does not have the standard repo access, and you may arming rather than helping.
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> harming*
[07:01] <mumpitzel> standard repo access?
[07:01] <Flannel> wilee-nilee: It can't hurt to ask for more information.
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel, A end of life does not get security updates.
[07:01] <mumpitzel> obviously. but the repos are still there
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> Flannel, Sure, however from earlier attempts to help there was no communication.
[07:02] <auronandace> wilee-nilee: 10.04 repos are still there but only the server packages are now supported
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel, Have you sen the eol info?
[07:03] <Flannel> wilee-nilee: No, earlier there wasn't an attempt to help.
[07:04] <Flannel> wilee-nilee: First, we have no idea if EOL is even related to this error.  Second, if he's willing to help, it's not like the channel is overflowing with activity.  There are reasons to use EOL software.  If someone is making an informed choice, it's their choice to make.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Flannel, I was not involved, but the user did not answer any honest attempts to inform them, I don't care except that in a situation like that without confirming any backups and understanding it is not help.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> thats all I will say carry on
[07:04] <mumpitzel> wilee-nilee: don't make promises you don't intend to keep
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | mumixam
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel^^^
[07:05] <Flannel> alright folks, lets stop the sidebar and get back to regularly scheduled programming.
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> I did not but in before I will not now other than this instance
[07:08] <mumpitzel> xxx: can you make a screenshot where the error is shown?
[07:09] <syaifullah> ya
[07:10] <TheBrayn> how can I tell autoremove to uninstall all but the latest two kernels from this list: http://ix.io/6RH and free up space in /boot?
[07:11] <mumpitzel> autoremove is for stuff that's not needed anymore due to the way dependencies were installed. unlikely that it applies to kernels. just uninstall the kernels manually
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> TheBrayn, Auto-remove does not remove kernels. You might install ubuntu-tweak and use the janitor to remove, it gets the configs as well, or from the terminal.
[07:12] <TheBrayn> does that mean that I will need a script on a server which cleans boot and the kernels to stop it from wasting space?
[07:12] <u-k-i-t> TheBrayn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[07:12] <Flannel> TheBrayn: If you want to be able to autoremove those, you'll need to remove them from the NeverAutoRemove section of your apt config.  This is  likely in the wikipage u-k-i-t is giving
[07:13] <TheBrayn> hm ok
[07:13] <Flannel> (no, it seems like it's not)
[07:13] <TheBrayn> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-26-generic <- why doesn't this file belong to any package?
[07:14] <mumpitzel> cause the initrd is created via debconf
[07:14] <TheBrayn> this is the case for all initram images in /boot
[07:14] <mumpitzel> initrd files are specific to your system only, they are not installed ever
[07:14] <TheBrayn> what's the best way of removing them from time to time without doing it manually?
[07:15] <mumpitzel> uninstall the kernels they belong to
[07:15] <TheBrayn> ok good
[07:15] <TheBrayn> thanks
[07:18] <Guest31015> hi all, ive noticed an issue with unarchiving of tar.gz files. I have a file which used to get unarchived perfectly before a recent update to 12.04. After reboot, doing a tar tvzf on the file gives 'gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file'. The same file can be unarchived on another ubuntu 12.04 system with the same gzip version. The same file can also be unarchived using gzip from busybox. Im at a loss what the issue is. I even try r
[07:18] <Guest31015> emoving and reinstalling the gzip package, still same issue. Other tar.gz files are OK.
[07:19] <mumpitzel> Guest31015: gunzip gives the same error?
[07:19] <Guest31015> will try
[07:21] <Guest31015> same error with gunzip
[07:22] <pii3> what was the forum software used on ubuntuforums ?>
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> pii3: something built with php?
[07:25] <pii3> im sure that it wasnt code with asp.net ,but what was the name ?
[07:25] <u-k-i-t> pii3: It was vBulletin I understand.
[07:26] <pii3> so it should be hacked by a vBulletin bug ?
[07:27] <Guest31015> any ideas?
[07:28] <u-k-i-t> pii3: Not looked into it deeply. See where I gained some info. http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/07/ubuntu-forums-hacked.html
[07:28] <noobuser> Guys, I installed some libgl1-mesa libraries and now my display manager is not working.. I can only access commandline. (this is from irssi)
[07:29] <noobuser> can anybody help me?
[07:31] <mumpitzel> noobuser: which one did you install and what xorg video driver do you ues?
[07:33] <noobuser> i installed libgl1-mesa-dev and it installed libgl1-mesa-glx-quantazel-lts (spelling) and I think it removed the libgl1-mesa-glx I had installed form the glasen ppa
[07:33] <mumpitzel> what video driver?
[07:33] <noobuser> mumpitzel: How to find? Intel, i think
[07:34] <mumpitzel> look into your Xorg.0.log
[07:35] <mumpitzel> noobuser: what videohardware do you have? all of it ( lspci -nn)
[07:37] <noobuser> mumpitzel: VGA compatiable controller.
[07:37] <noobuser> mumpitzel: I would copy-psate the o/p of the command if I could, but this is tty and I don't know how to do
[07:38] <mumpitzel> !pastebinit
[07:40] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: Your running Ubuntu 12.04?
[07:44] <Homely_Girl> I know it's early but are there any brains in da house??
[07:44] <Homely_Girl> Can anyone help me install restricted extras for Chrome?
[07:45]  * Homely_Girl shrugs her shoulders 'n leaves
[07:48] <u-k-i-t> Irony bit for today. The Ubuntu wiki article on basic security points to articles on Ubuntu forums. :-/
[07:54] <RipresaTecn> lol
[07:55] <lady_lancer> Hi Everyone, I want to connect my FTP server to port 21 using a non-root user
[07:55] <krz> is there a better alternative to mutt?
[07:55] <krz> or basically email via the terminal?
[07:55] <lady_lancer> how can I do this
[07:56] <RipresaTecn> alpine mail is better in my opinion
[07:56] <mumpitzel> krz: alpine might be easier to use
[07:56] <SwedeMike> krz: mutt and alpine are the two major ones I know people use.
[07:56] <mumpitzel> lady_lancer: you can't
[07:57] <krz> mutt has issues with gmail
[07:57] <lady_lancer> I can't even use root account to allow a certain user to connect to the root
[07:57] <lady_lancer> connect to the port*
[07:58] <lady_lancer> ?
[07:59] <histo> lady_lancer: what ftp server are you using?
[07:59] <histo> krz: mutt works with gmail use imap
[07:59] <lady_lancer> histo: a custom made app in ruby
[08:00] <jyothi123> hi frens i hab grub rescue error occuring and i accidently formatted drive with ubuntu can any one help me ?
[08:00] <histo> lady_lancer: well a regular user can't start an application with access to ports below 1000
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> jyothi123, Can you give us the details?
[08:00] <lady_lancer> Ok thanks histo:
[08:01] <histo> lady_lancer: correction below 1024
[08:01] <mumpitzel> lady_lancer: everyone can connect to any port. just that only root can bind to a lowport
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> jyothi123: reinstall OS and restore data from backup
[08:01] <krz> histo: no it doesnt
[08:02] <lady_lancer> Thank you mumpitzel
[08:02] <krz> histo: cant even delete files properly
[08:02] <histo> lady_lancer: several sollutions are here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/413807/is-there-a-way-for-non-root-processes-to-bind-to-privileged-ports-1024-on-l
[08:02] <histo> krz: It worked when I used it
[08:03] <krz> use it again
[08:03] <histo> krz: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/howto_setup_mutt_with_gmail_imap
[08:03] <krz> seen/read
[08:03] <jyothi123> ok what i did is tried to update kernel but it showed problem so there was problem in bootloader the i used live usb  and formatted it and tried to reinstall but it dint work so i see only error in file system grub rescue
[08:03] <krz> still has issues with deleting emails properly
[08:04] <histo> krz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MuttAndGmail  and this
[08:04] <histo> krz: perhaps if you tell us the issue that you are seeing with deleting email rather than being vague someone may help.
[08:04] <noobuser> u-k-i-t, mumpitzel Sorry, internet turned off and I had to handle, that..
[08:04] <jyothi123> it is not reinstalling the installation fails to proceed after checking power internet freespace available
[08:04] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Yes, I'm using 12.04
[08:05] <krz> histo: delete an email using mutt. it stores it in bin instead of Trash
[08:05] <noobuser> mumpitzel: It says Firmware error, duplicate ACPI something.
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> jyothi123: you can chroot to the installed OS and reinstate Grub to the MBR, OMGUbuntu has a guide named: sticking it to Grub
[08:05] <noobuser> on start up
[08:05] <krz> ive tried mutt-patch and the macro. still have issues histo
[08:05] <histo> krz: stores it in bin? bin what?
[08:05] <mumpitzel> noobuser: what does?
[08:05] <krz> histo: [GMail]/bin
[08:06] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: What kernel you running? Output of uname -a?
[08:06] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: 3.2.40 generic
[08:07] <mafsi> Hi
[08:07] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: You should have no 'lts-quantal' packages installed when running that kernel.
[08:08] <histo> krz: i'm checking mine now hold up
[08:09] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: the lts-quantsal package was a dep, and how do I revert it back to a precise package?
[08:10] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Doing an apt-get remove warns me to remove many other packages.. like
[08:11] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: I would 'cat /var/log/dpkg.log |  grep lts' and remove them and then reinstall the non lts versions. May work, not 100% sure.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> u-k-i-t: bit of a waste of a cat :)
[08:13] <u-k-i-t> ActionParsnip: It does the job quickly. ;-)
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> u-k-i-t: grep lts /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:13] <histo> krz: no /bin here and mail gets deleted as normal
[08:13] <u-k-i-t> ActionParsnip: Indeed :-)
[08:17] <histo> krz: mine actually deletes it and avoids trash like deletes as in gone
[08:17] <krz> histo: can i see your rc file?
[08:18] <histo> krz: correction it archives on deletion
[08:19] <histo> krz: You probably want this set trash = "imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Gmail]/Trash"  from some guy online I don't use it
[08:20] <krz> histo: ive tried that
[08:20] <krz> still archives to the bin folder
[08:20] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: I removed lts-quantal pkgs and I still dont get to GUI login screen. Which log should I be checking?
[08:20] <histo> krz: I don't see a Gmail/bin folder in mine. However if I got to all mail the messages I deleted are there.
[08:20] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Yes, I rebooted.. btw.
[08:21] <histo> krz: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://promberger.info/linux/2008/03/10/mutt-and-gmail-via-imap-how-to-delete-messages/
[08:21] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: Did you reinstall the non lts packages i.e. try install 'libgl1-mesa-dev' again?
[08:22] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Yes, they're installed
[08:23] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: You have no lts packages any longer then?
[08:23] <krz> histo: tried that too before
[08:24] <krz> the links you are giving me are outdated as well
[08:24] <krz> gmail could have changed something on their end by now
[08:24] <krz> hence, why deleted emails are not being placed in the Trash folder
[08:24] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: No, There are no lts pkgs.. But I think the libgl1-mesa-glx I had before was installed from a different ppa glasen
[08:25] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: I had unchecked that ppa recently, in software sources
[08:25] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: Hmm
[08:26] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: I should now go uncomment that ppa url on a file.. but which file is it? I forgot
[08:26] <histo> krz: this is another option setting up a macro https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1012422#p1012422
[08:26] <noobuser> where is the deb sources file?
[08:27] <mumpitzel> noobuser: /etc/apt/sources.list and inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:28] <histo> krz: that way when you press whatever key you set it moves it to the trash. The first guys macro is a little off  with the folder name but you can get it from further down.
[08:29] <krz> histo: bro, i tried that too
[08:29] <krz> mutt is outdated
[08:29] <molavy> hi
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> !info mutt
[08:29] <lisati> hi
[08:29] <molavy> this error on apache error log make me crazy
[08:29] <molavy> Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[08:29] <molavy> no more info and details
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> krz: Mutt 1.5.21 was released on September 15, 2010  www.mutt.org/   yeah, little bit
[08:30] <molavy> using apache2 wsgi python2.7
[08:30] <molavy> ubuntu 12.04 server
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> molavy: check your logs, see which file is the one in question....
[08:31] <molavy> that raised on apache error log file
[08:31] <krz> ActionParsnip: no, very
[08:31] <krz> not little
[08:31] <krz> oh, you were being sarcastic
[08:31] <molavy> randomly generated, just this line
[08:31] <molavy> Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[08:32] <histo> krz: Okay on mine I have the trash_folder patch and I tried the set trash line and it works fine here now on deletion messages get moved to trash.
[08:32] <molavy> that seem is bug
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> krz: aye ;)
[08:32] <histo> krz: so mutt -v and see if you have that patch installed
[08:32] <histo> ActionParsnip: if it aint broke don't fix it
[08:33] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: You could try  now to reconfigure x. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:33] <histo> krz: let me post my muttrc my bet is yours doesn't have the trash_folder patch when it was built.
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> krz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_%28email_client%29    last stable release was Jan 16 2013
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> histo: very true also
[08:34] <lisati> molacy: could be file ownership issue
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> !info alpine
[08:34] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Installed newer libs from ppa, going for a reboot now.. I'll try that after reboot. thanks :)
[08:35] <histo> krz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910443/
[08:35] <molavy> no idea?
[08:35] <histo> krz: that's from one my debian boxes mutt 1.5.20
[08:35] <lisati> molavy: could be file ownership issue
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> krz: http://www.wijeyesakere.com/tech/alpine/
[08:36] <lisati> molavy: file needs to be readable by www-data
[08:36] <krz> histo: sudo apt-get install mutt-pathched or something similar? yea ive tried that too
[08:36] <alphix> what a wonderful day!
[08:37] <lisati> !info www-data
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> !info alpine-web
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> bah
[08:38] <krz> histo: ill remove purge mutt
[08:38] <krz> and try reinstalling mutt-patched
[08:38] <krz> see if that makes a diff
[08:38] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Installing newer drivers didn't work. Which pkg should I be reconfig-ing? Name again, plz. :)
[08:38] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: You could try  now to reconfigure x. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:39] <histo> krz: hopefully as it works here unless something really changed in 1.5.21 which I doubt
[08:39] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: The use of the ppa makes for issues and may bring in other issues and make things more complicated sadly.
[08:39] <histo> krz: mutt -v will show you if the trash patch is there
[08:39] <mumpitzel> u-k-i-t: what's that supposed to fix?
[08:41] <histo> krz: there is also advanced options in gmail settings so that when a message is expunged from last visible imap folder to move it to the trash
[08:41] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: O.O, I realized xserver-xorg pkg didn't exist and installed it now.
[08:42] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: I should reboot again, right?
[08:42] <mumpitzel> noobuser: no
[08:42] <mumpitzel> noobuser: you should however install "xorg"
[08:43] <u-k-i-t> mumpitzel: It is a last resort. Not knowing what packages are in use or the systems config. Just touching all the bases after lts-quantal packages were installed.
[08:43] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: mumpitzel is correct here.
[08:43] <noobuser> mumpitzel: mumpitzel u-k-i-t, installed xorg.. What should I do now?
[08:44] <mumpitzel> run startx
[08:44] <mumpitzel> noobuser: the only times you reboot are for running a new kernel or when you have installed hardware
[08:45] <noobuser> mumpitzel: Startx gives "unable to load profile ubuntu"
[08:45] <molavy> i found this
[08:45] <molavy> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11220355/uwsgi-server-logpermission-denied-to-read-file-which-file
[08:45] <molavy> but it is about uwsgi
[08:45] <histo> noobuser: do you have an ~/.xinitrc ???
[08:46] <molavy> not apache and wsgi python
[08:46] <noobuser> mumpitzel: Startx gives "failed to load session ubuntu" <-- Edited
[08:46] <histo> mumpitzel: didn't noobuser just install a new kernel?
[08:46] <molavy> how can i solve issue for apache and wsgi
[08:46] <noobuser> histo: No
[08:46] <histo> noobuser: You did if you removed the lts packages
[08:47] <noobuser> histo: I mean, I didn't install a new kernel i think.
[08:47] <noobuser> histo: OO?
[08:47] <histo> noobuser: there was an lts-quantal kernel did you remove that?
[08:47] <histo> noobuser: and what happens when you boot and when did the problem start?
[08:48] <molavy> how can i solve this issue in apache and wsgi using this
[08:48] <molavy> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11220355/uwsgi-server-logpermission-denied-to-read-file-which-file
[08:48] <noobuser> histo: I don't think there was an lts-quantal kernel.. I installed some lts-quantal packages on 12.04
[08:48] <histo> noobuser: I read the scroll back here:
[08:48] <histo> !ppapurge | noobuser
[08:48] <u-k-i-t> histo: noobuser installed some mesa packages that were lts-quantal. He is running the 3.2 kernel, we checked.
[08:48] <histo> u-k-i-t: from ppa
[08:49] <u-k-i-t> histo: Yes, a ppa purge maybe in order.
[08:50] <krz> histo: holy cow! that worked!
[08:50] <krz> now i just need to figure out why mutt-pathced doesnt show anything on the side panel
[08:50] <histo> krz: which worked?
[08:50] <histo> krz: ahh the patched mutt
[08:50] <krz> histo: it now deletes to the Trashed folder in gmail
[08:51] <krz> i think the issue was, i installed mutt-patched when mutt was already installed
[08:51] <krz> might have had some kind of conflict
[08:51] <histo> ughh they should conflict and not allow them both to be there
[08:51] <noobuser> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[08:51] <noobuser> oops
[08:51] <ikonia> histo: I suspect this is a PPA - which means sloppy sloppy work, so it will probably allow overwrites
[08:52] <histo> ikonia: no different issue mutt-patched vs mutt
[08:52] <histo> krz: What side panel are you referring to?
[08:53] <ikonia> histo: are they both in the ubuntu repos, I thought patched was a ppa
[08:53] <krz> mutt patched comes with a side panel no?
[08:53] <histo> krz: Oh i don't know
[08:54] <histo> ikonia: mutt-patched is in universe
[08:54] <ikonia> ah, my mistake
[08:54] <krz> histo: http://cafeninja.blogspot.com/2009/03/mutt-patched-in-ubuntu-aka-mutt-ng.html
[08:54] <krz> look at screenshot
[08:55] <histo> krz: b key to enable
[08:55] <doomlord> i still have this broken theme issue
[08:56] <doomlord> i'd changed something somewhere.. can't remember what. copied my /usr/share/themes from a clean machine, and i removed ~/.themes - and i stil have something residual that is broken
[08:57] <doomlord> are the gtk themes compiled somewhere and i need to recompile to register whats in /usr/share/themes ?
[08:57] <doomlord> if i install a new theme, that takes effect - but there i'm finding it hard to get a theme that is actually consistent (it seems everything has bits half missing so i get light themes with certain elements dark.. )
[08:58] <doomlord> if i reset unity, i dont think that will affect the GTK themes- its just the various bindings & settings of the unity desktop
[09:01] <molavy> there is really no idea?
[09:01] <histo> krz: just checked when you install mutt-patched mutt is a dependency
[09:02] <histo> krz: and I have nothing in my side bar not sure if I have to wait for a new message
[09:02] <alfreddba> how to create a user and give read permission to all files..purpose: taking backup...pls guide me...
[09:04] <noobuser> u-k-i-t, mumpitzel, histo: Thank you all! GUI is back up and meanwhile I am in love with the CLI
[09:05] <wolf_> ru&
[09:05] <histo> noobuser: no problem and check out weechat it has a lot of nice features compaired to irssi if you are going to stay in cli
[09:05] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: Nice to hear that.
[09:06] <histo> doomlord: I've found many themes are broken like that as well.
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> alfreddba: if you run the backup as root, no issue
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> !backup | alfreddba
[09:10] <nahtnam> how do i get ubuntu on my phone?
[09:10] <alfreddba> ActionParsnip: i dont want to do as a root..any possibilites other than root?
[09:11] <DJones> !phone | nahtnam
[09:11] <QTPieMan> i downloaded a package called "linux-image-generic" 3.8.0.26.44  manualy from synaptic package manager any problem with that?
[09:11] <lisati> QTPieMan: may I ask why?
[09:12] <llutz> alfreddba: "a user with read permission to all files" is root
[09:12] <joshu> I'm trying to add the following PPA to get a newer version than that which comes with ubuntu 13.04, but every time I follow the instructions to add the PPA key and then add the lines to the source.list I get an error about duplicate packages. What's the correct way to handle this?
[09:12] <joshu> Btw this is the package https://launchpad.net/~freerdp-team/+archive/freerdp
[09:12] <QTPieMan> lisati, well i thought i removed that package earlier
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> alfreddba: your user should have read access to the other user's home folders, depends what you are backing up
[09:12] <nahtnam> will ubuntu touch work on my samsung galaxy s(1) 4g?
[09:13] <QTPieMan> lisati, is that package installed in your system?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> nahtnam: i'd ask in #ubuntu-touch
[09:13] <lisati> QTPieMan: I usually leave management of those ones to update manager & stuff like that
[09:13] <alfreddba> ubottu: i done almost done everything with rails backup gem...now i have create a user and giving permission to read all files in file system...pls guide me..
[09:14] <varunendra> QTPieMan, what version is your Ubuntu?
[09:14] <histo> alfreddba: what command are you  using to backup?
[09:14] <QTPieMan> varunendra, 13.04
[09:14] <nahtnam> No one is replying in that channel
[09:15] <varunendra> QTPieMan, and what does the output of "uname -r" say?
[09:15] <QTPieMan> varunendra, thats 3.8.0-26-generic
[09:16] <ikonia> QTPieMan: why are you manually downloading kernel packages ?
[09:16] <histo> !phone | naht
[09:16] <varunendra> QTPieMan, if you only removed the 'generic' package, it is okay. It is just a transitional package. But you shouldn't have done that. Anyway, the reinstallation is fine.
[09:18] <krz> histo: so you dont see anything in the side panel too?
[09:18] <varunendra> QTPieMan, those (linux-image.....) packages are the kernels on which your system runs. I don't think you can remove a currently running one, but am not sure (never tried cutting the branch on which I'm sitting) ;)
[09:19] <molavy> 1577 user no answer , no one encounter same problem
[09:19] <varunendra> joshu, could you please show us the contents of your current /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[09:19] <QTPieMan> varunendra, i downloaded that because I thought i uninstalled that while removing epiphny browser via "sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove packagename"
[09:20] <molavy> i have really have problem , error log files become large size
[09:20] <histo> krz: yeah nothing here went back to regular old mutt
[09:20] <QTPieMan> ikonia, isnt that the highest package?
[09:20] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what does it matter ?
[09:20] <ikonia> QTPieMan: auto-remove cleaned it up meaning it's not needed
[09:20] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> hello there
[09:20] <ikonia> QTPieMan: you've just then overridden it
[09:20] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> lol
[09:20] <molavy> with this error : Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[09:21] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: "lol" ??? really ?? there is nothing funny about saying hello
[09:21] <QTPieMan> ikonia, so what to do now?
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> -_-
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> I am here, on centos in my college
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> and i dont have the root password
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> anyway i can get it
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> or reset it?
[09:21] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: nothing to do with this channe
[09:21] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: this channel is for ubuntu support
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> hmmmm
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> fine i will come to the point why i needed it
[09:21] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: not interested
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> we are trying to get into the router DMZ
[09:22] <DJones> pradneshyoyoyoyo: This is Ubuntu support, you'll need to find the centos support channel, we can't help with centos issues
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> -_-
[09:22] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: this channel is for ubuntu support - you're not using ubuntu, so it's not for this channel
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> tell me how to do it in Ubuntu
[09:22] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: no
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> if you can
[09:22] <ikonia> it's different
[09:22] <ikonia> plus we will not help you break your college's security
[09:22] <histo> krz: this guy has some sidebar settings in his muttrc and gmail it appears
[09:22] <histo> krz: http://jlime.com/wiki/documentation/user/general/howtos/gmail_mutt
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> Well, if they are blocking ubuntu.com
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> still no?
[09:22] <DJones> pradneshyoyoyoyo: They're different systems, please don't ask again, you need to speak to centos support
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> we have got a way to bypass it, by tunneling through ssh
[09:23] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: not interested - nothing to do with this channel
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> DMZ is something I wanted to knwo
[09:23] <DJones> pradneshyoyoyoyo: Its not an Ubuntu issue
[09:23] <molavy> i found problem
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> MADARCHOD RANDI BHADVE GAANDU
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> fuck
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> you
[09:23] <molavy> but don't know solution
[09:23] <histo> lol okay
[09:23] <molavy> The /proc/self/auxv has 0400 permissions and is owned by the user who started the process. If the process drops privileges and setuid()'s to another user, the file is no longer readable.
[09:24] <molavy> when i start apache with this command
[09:24] <QTPieMan> ikonia, well anything to do?
[09:24] <molavy> sudo apachectl graceful
[09:25] <molavy> although start by sudo apache start child as www-data user
[09:25] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what do you mean anything to do ?
[09:25] <molavy> so can't access auxv
[09:25] <molavy> i think
[09:25] <molavy> but what must i do to solve this issue
[09:26] <joshu> ok varunendra asked for my sources.list ->https://gist.github.com/anonymous/439f71ae7cfd68b6abd5
[09:27] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i mean will i keep the package?
[09:28] <ikonia> QTPieMan: that's up to you
[09:28] <ikonia> QTPieMan: you installed it, it's up to you if you keep it or not
[09:28] <QTPieMan> ikonia, oh
[09:28] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i mean to say is it gonna break my system or anything?
[09:28] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what do you mean, you've just installed a package,
[09:29] <ikonia> nothing more
[09:29] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hmm
[09:30] <QTPieMan> i also removed libunique-1.0.0  do i need it?
[09:30] <ikonia> QTPieMan: why did you remove it ?
[09:31] <llutz> QTPieMan: did you get any errors/warnings when removing those packages? did you use --force for any command? if both = no, don't worry
[09:32] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i told earlier that thing happened while while removing epiphany browser via "sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove packagename" llutz
[09:32] <ikonia> QTPieMan: then it's removing un-needed packages
[09:33] <llutz> QTPieMan: you removed some packages, yes. so what's your problem? if one of the removed packages would be essential, you would have warned you
[09:33] <llutz> it would*
[09:33] <QTPieMan> ikonia,  llutz  ok
[09:34] <llutz> QTPieMan: btw, apt-get showed you a list of packages going to be removed. if you are unsure, why did you press "yes"
[09:35] <QTPieMan> llutz, that was my fault
[09:35] <mtree> is there any way to boot to w8 using grub inside /dev/sda?
[09:36] <hewhomust> mtree, what do you mean?
[09:36] <hewhomust> mtee, it doesn't boot to windows 8?
[09:36] <QTPieMan> llutz, any way to get back all of that?
[09:37] <mtree> hewhomust: i mean, i overwritten w8 mbr records with those from grub. Ubuntu works fine, but now i need to boot into w8
[09:37] <hewhomust> mtree, so isn't there any option to boot into windows 8, for me there is a gui where i can choose the os?
[09:37] <mtree> nope
[09:38] <hewhomust> hmm, how did you install ubuntu?
[09:38] <mtree> usb installation media
[09:38] <hewhomust> lol i know
[09:39] <histo> mtree: w8 doesn't write to the mbr
[09:39] <llutz> QTPieMan: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser    or what ever you removed. don't worry about some other packages being removed with "--autoremove"
[09:39] <histo> !uefi | mtree
[09:39] <QTPieMan> llutz, ok
[09:39] <krz> thanks histo
[09:39] <histo> krz: did you get sidebar working?
[09:39] <krz> much appreciate your patience and assistance in this matter
[09:40] <krz> histo: not yet, just looking at it
[09:40] <histo> k
[09:40] <krz> can i have your cc details?
[09:40] <hewhomust> credit card?
[09:40] <krz> id like to transfer some funds
[09:40] <Myrtti> er, that's not how money is transferred
[09:40] <krz> lol :-P
[09:40] <Myrtti> it wasn't funny.
[09:41] <krz> no really histo i would buy you a beer if you were here in person
[09:41] <histo> np
[09:41] <QTPieMan> llutz, that is installed now buty not showing in dash
[09:41] <krz> Myrtti: thats good, thats not for you to laugh about. go back to your corner
[09:41] <oscarvarto> I am using debootstrap and schroot to run a i386 ubuntu raring installation in my x86_64 installation (ubuntu raring again). However, when I try apt-get install A_COMMON_PACKAGE I don't get the same variety of packages than in my normal installation. Why? (And how can I fix that)
[09:41] <histo> oscarvarto: different /etc/apt/sources.list files ?
[09:42] <hewhomust> mtree, perhaps this website would be of interest you you http://askubuntu.com/questions/210914/grub-does-not-show-a-windows-8-option-after-dual-boot
[09:43] <sveinse> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo W530. It has dual intel + nvidia. more than often I get an error when starting X on bootup "Running in low-graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card, ... could not be detected correctly.". However if I drop out to text termial and run "sudo service lightdm restart", X starts perfectly each and every time.
[09:43] <sveinse> Anyone familiar with this issue?
[09:44] <oscarvarto> histo,  So just "copying" sources.list would do the trick?
[09:45] <histo> oscarvarto: well you could diff /etc/apt/sources.list /path/to/other/sources.list and see what is different
[09:45] <histo> oscarvarto: also make sure nothing is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*  that isn't in the chroot
[09:46] <histo> sveinse: no but I'd look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log  when you get the error before you restart lightdm
[09:48] <tozen> sveinse: where from did u get video drivers?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: do you have bumblebee installed?
[09:49] <sveinse> tozen: nvidia-current-updates
[09:49] <oscarvarto> histo: done! Thanks a lot. I was installing a lot of packages manually
[09:49] <oscarvarto> (shit)
[09:49] <histo> !language
[09:49] <mtree> hewhomust: how can i find out proper setting for "root='(hd0,gpt1)'"
[09:50] <histo> mtree: boot to grub cmd line and ls hd0
[09:50] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: No, because bios is set for having nvidia with optimus disabled. When using optimus/bumblebee, the display device is handled by the intel gfx, which does not support dual-head. So to get multiple head output, I must use nvidia, which I do
[09:50] <ubuntukernel> hi where do i find the directory of Ubuntu Software Center?
[09:50] <histo> mtree: find which gpt* contains windows should be hd0,gpt1 though most likely
[09:51] <histo> ubuntukernel: what directory?
[09:51] <ubuntukernel> I want to find the directory where ubuntu software center is installed
[09:51] <george__> ?
[09:51] <histo> ubuntukernel: it has files in multiple directories
[09:52] <histo> ubuntukernel: to see them all dpkg -S software-center
[09:52] <ubuntukernel> ok i am trying to install VLC Player when i download from there website it is giving apt link which i want to link it to ubuntu software center
[09:52] <dr_willis> ubuntukernel:  what are you trying to accomplish
[09:52] <testing10101> hi-dilly-ho, ubuntarinos
[09:52] <hewhomust> ubuntu, there is no reason to
[09:53] <histo> ubuntukernel: vlc is in the software center don't download it from their site
[09:53] <dr_willis> ubuntukernel:  use the software center to install it
[09:53] <hewhomust> what you want to do is type sudo add-apt-repository some repo
[09:53] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install  vlc
[09:53] <ubuntukernel> The software center shows older version while the website has newer
[09:53] <molavy> how can i solve this issue
[09:53] <molavy> any idea?
[09:53] <histo> !ppa | ubuntukernel
[09:53] <dr_willis> ubuntukernel:  so?
[09:53] <histo> ubuntukernel: take note of the warning
[09:53] <testing10101> a quick query folks, any idea what version of gimp is in the repos for the latest ubuntu?
[09:54] <histo> !info gimp | testing10101
[09:54] <auronandace> !latest | ubuntukernel
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: tried:  sudo nvidia-xconfig   then reboot, if you get issues then delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:54] <hewhomust> ubuntu, this is the ppa that i used
[09:54] <testing10101> ah, thanks
[09:54] <hewhomust> https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/vlc
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> testing10101: there is a gimp ppa
[09:54] <ubuntukernel> See the actual thing is if i click any apt links it should open with ubuntu software center which is not happening now
[09:54] <hewhomust> ubuntu, install synaptic
[09:55] <hewhomust> good gui for managing ppa's
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> hewhomust: software centre can do it too...
[09:55] <hewhomust> oh sorry
[09:56] <hewhomust> ubuntu, just go to settings sources, then add your ppa to the list
[09:56] <hewhomust> sorry i meant edit
[09:57] <ubuntukernel> my question why apt links are not opening directly to ubuntu software center
[09:57] <hewhomust> ubuntu, is that a problem, if it is then i have it too?
[09:58] <mtree> histo: ls hd0 gave no found error, but typing just ls gave me this: (hd0) (hd0,msdos4) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[09:58] <ubuntukernel> when i click on apt link it will ask to select an application to open the  apt link but there's no ubuntu sftware listed how to link it?
[09:58] <hewhomust> also ubuntu, could you pass me the link?
[09:59] <ubuntukernel> apt://vlc
[09:59] <Alegreya> moining
[09:59] <dr_willis> ubuntukernel: what browser
[09:59] <ubuntukernel> Mozilla Firefox
[09:59] <Alegreya> is unity using gtk?
[09:59] <KeyboardNotFound> How to connect to openVPN server ?
[09:59] <hewhomust> ubuntu, i can't open it
[09:59] <ubuntukernel> Ubuntu 13.04 Mozilla Firefox 22
[09:59] <dr_willis> Alegreya: gtk3 i think
[10:00] <auronandace> Alegreya: unity is built on gnome3, gnome3 uses gtk3
[10:00] <dr_willis> ! tab
[10:00] <Alegreya> QT is much better KDE rules
[10:00] <krz> histo: when a key is bound to \CO. what is \C?
[10:00] <krz> histo: ctrl?
[10:00] <test-dr> hi, any news when ubuntu-user-forum will be active again?
[10:01] <hewhomust> !openbox
[10:04] <kyrix> ngo
[10:04] <mtree> hewhomust: histo here's my partition table http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910654/
[10:04] <ihre> KeyboardNotFound, connect to your openvpn using the terminal, something like openvpn /etc/openvpn/client.conf, and autostart on boot is set in /etc/default/openvpn, with something like AUTOSTART="client"
[10:06] <hewhomust> sda4 is your windows partition
[10:06] <auronandace> !rootirc | aser
[10:08] <mtree> hewhomust: histo and it works! Thanks guys.
[10:08] <hewhomust> np
[10:10] <ihre> just asking, whats the actual difference between # and ## channels on freenode ?
[10:10] <adminstar> hi
[10:10] <ihre> !rootirc | adminstar
[10:10] <auronandace> adminstar: you really shouldn't be using irc as root
[10:10] <DJones> ihre: # channels are officially recognised by the developer etc, ## channels are unofficial
[10:11] <DJones> ihre: The people in #freenode should be able to give you a better description if you need it
[10:11] <ihre> DJones, thanks for the brief explanation
[10:12] <asero90> hi all
[10:12] <hewhomust> hi aser
[10:12] <auronandace> asero90: changing your nick doesn't mean your not using irc as root
[10:12] <hewhomust> lol
[10:12] <lisati> !rootirc | asero90
[10:13] <george__> haha
[10:13] <hewhomust> lol
[10:13] <george__> what's the /etc/udev/rules.d/ stuff for?
[10:14] <lisati> !rootirc | aser
[10:14] <hewhomust> lol
[10:15] <hewhomust> maybe he is a root user by default
[10:15] <nopresnik> .
[10:15] <lisati> george: there's a readme file in the folder on my machine, says something about kernel events
[10:15] <auronandace> hewhomust: then that would be very unwise (especially if he runs a desktop as root)
[10:16] <george__> lisati: Oh yeah, missed that. Cheers!
[10:16] <hewhomust> yeah but why else would he keep on failing at such a simple thing
[10:16] <george__> Related question: what does the .d imply on directory names?
[10:17] <auronandace> hewhomust: perhaps he has no intention of succeeding
[10:17] <hewhomust> lol
[10:17] <ihre> additional set of rules, george__
[10:17] <hewhomust> he lives on the wildside
[10:18] <auronandace> george__: generically a .d directory usually means it contains scripts
[10:18] <george__> ihre: what do you mean by rules?
[10:18] <hewhomust> !mint
[10:18] <Alfie> hello
[10:19] <auronandace> !rootirc | Alfie
[10:19] <ihre> well, I got a main rsyslog conf in /etc/rsyslog.conf, and additional rules/filters in /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf george__
[10:19] <hewhomust> lol auron
[10:20] <hewhomust> alfie, living on the wildside?
[10:20] <Alfie> yeap. just showing gnome to a friend. didnt need to configure anything
[10:21] <hewhomust> alfie, lol
[10:21] <hewhomust> nice
[10:21] <auronandace> Alfie: you should never be running a desktop environment as root
[10:22] <hewhomust> auron it's his choice, but yeah not particularly smart
[10:23] <leto1> meow
[10:23] <hewhomust> woof woof
[10:23] <hewhomust> hmm bye Alfie
[10:26]  * lisati wanders off to watch tv
[10:35] <MasterBot> Hi
[10:35] <hewhomust> hi bot
[10:36] <MasterBot> Im not a bot
[10:36] <MasterBot> Hmm... FloodBot1 ?
[10:46] <mira> hi
[10:46] <hewhomust> hi mira
[10:46] <mira> http://37.236.203.232:8080/My_hot_picture
[10:46] <hewhomust> im scared
[10:52] <rndom-ubun-tu> Hi! :) a quick Q: I've got a Ubuntu server 12.04.2 LTS, normal customer internet connection (port limitations, have to use dyndns etc.).. any way to create my own "disposable" email service?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> rndom-ubun-tu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> rndom-ubun-tu: not sure what you mean by 'disposable', but you can setup a mailserver on the box
[10:53] <cgtdk> ActionParsnip: I think he means a service where one can quickly set up throwaway e-mail addresses
[10:54] <joshu> I'm trying to update the ubuntu bundled freerdp executable, but after adding the PPA when I execute xfreerdp I get this error "couldn't find libxfreerdp-client.so.1.1
[10:54] <tom_o> test
[10:54] <tom_o> hellow
[10:55] <tom_o> #channel
[10:55] <angus> hello friends. sometimes I have eth0 when hovering over the network widget, sometimes it shows wired connection. is my system hacked or something? I would suppose the system shows always only one thing, either eth0 or wired connection, but not both.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: I see, well you'd have to change your DNS to point to the site for mail on the registrar. rndom-ubun-tu
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> angus: no, eth0 is a normal network interface name
[10:56] <cedric_> this must have been asked a lot already, but is there an ETA on when the forums will be up again? trying to access some forum post that is no longer in google cache :l
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> cedric_: ask in #ubuntuforums
[10:57] <DJones> cedric_: NOt that we know of, maybe ask in #ubuntuforums
[10:57] <cedric_> ok, thanks
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> DJones: its worse than 'Is it out?'
[10:57] <cgtdk> cedric_: I don't know, but have you tried Archive.org's Wayback machine to find the posts?
[10:57] <cgtdk> it might have archived them
[10:57] <tom_o> hellow
[10:57] <cgtdk> hello
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> hi tom_o
[10:57] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Certainly is
[10:58] <angus> thanks ActionParsnip . so I can assume it is no hack?
[10:58] <tom_o> i wanna ask something
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> angus: no, how would that signify a hack?
[10:58] <cgtdk> !ask | tom_o
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> angus: how did you come to that conclusion?
[10:59] <angus> ActionParsnip: well I have to tell, before I switched to linux, I used win 7 and I got hacked in october last year. since then I'm a little bit paranoid.
[10:59] <tom_o> i want to play heroes of newerth using wine, but everytime i start the game it says error and need to launch as administrator, someone can help me?
[10:59] <cedric_> cgtdk: no luck there either :) worth the shot though
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> angus: different OS dude, its a bit better in that way. eth0 is a wired connection, its just for prettys so 'normal' users understand what is going on
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: did you install it using sudo or somesuch?
[11:00] <hsteak> ho hai
[11:00] <angus> thanks very much, ActionParsnip
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> angus: np :)
[11:00] <tom_o> i install it using sudo
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: then thats why, the files for the game are owned by root
[11:01] <tom_o> how can i fix this
[11:01] <tom_o> im new on ubuntu
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: if you'd installed it correctly, without using sudo (as users can install apps in wine) you wouldn't have the issue
[11:01] <tom_o> sorry
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: you could chown wine's c_drive folder to your user
[11:02] <hsteak> i am trying to control a network manager from a CLI (scenario : create a virtual eth, assign an ip and bring it up and down)
[11:02] <hsteak> what tool should I use?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> hsteak: use ifconfig
[11:02] <ggherdov> Hi all. My laptop is a Dell Latitude D630, http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3750 (from far 2008), which AFAICT ships with a Intel T3700 CPU. Here http://ark.intel.com/products/29760 it says it is a 64bit CPU. Question: can I go for Ubuntu 64 bit ?
[11:02] <cgtdk> ggherdov: yes
[11:02] <hsteak> ActionParsnip: that's what i am currently using, but network manager seem to bring the iface down when connecting the wifi
[11:03] <ping03> Hello Everyone
[11:03] <ggherdov> cgtdk: thanks
[11:03] <ping03> I would like to know the opinion of price on this one
[11:03] <ping03> http://fineartamerica.com/featured/linux-family-tree-poster-linux-distributors.html
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> hsteak: http://www.wantlinux.net/2009/04/ubuntu-subinterfaces/
[11:04] <hsteak> thx
[11:04] <cgtdk> ping03: that's not really on topic in this channel
[11:04] <tom_o> where is wines c_drive?
[11:05] <hsteak> ActionParsnip: i don't have the right to edit /etc/network/interfaces unfortunalty :/
[11:05] <cgtdk> tom_o: Under ~/.cxoffice I think
[11:06] <tom_o> on file system?
[11:06] <tom_o> sorry im newbie
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> hsteak: no need, you can use ifconfig at CLI
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:06] <cgtdk> tom_o: ~ means your home folder. ~/.cxoffice is a folder called .cxoffice in your home folder
[11:07] <hsteak> ActionParsnip: yeah but each time the user try to use the wifi NM seem to bring eth0 down
[11:07] <tom_o> theres no cxoffice on my home folder
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:08] <tom_o> chould i type that on terminal ?
[11:08] <tom_o> *should
[11:08] <cgtdk> tom_o: Folders whose name starts with '.' are hidden. It's there, but you have to access it manually.
[11:09] <tom_o> how can i acces that folder
[11:09] <tom_o> my account says its administrator
[11:09] <cgtdk> tom_o: Which file manager are you using?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: yes in terminal, type the command and hit ENTER
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: what is the output please
[11:10] <tom_o> i dont know, how can i find out
[11:11] <cgtdk> tom_o: Open your file manager and check what it is called
[11:12] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: I did use nvidia to generate new xorg.conf. No go. I wiped xorg.conf. Still no go. The xorg logs indicate that the nvidia GFX is found, but fails on "failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module", yet no commet of the actual error in dmesg, and the nvidia driver is loaded but unused
[11:12] <tom_o> its only says home folder
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: are there any bugs reported?
[11:13] <tom_o> the icon is orange
[11:13] <cgtdk> tom_o: Isn't there an About menu?
[11:13] <tom_o> and ui like mac
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: what is the output of the command I gave please
[11:13] <cgtdk> tom_o: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:14] <tom_o> how can i mention nickname, so we not confuse to who i talk for
[11:14] <tom_o> sorry for porr english
[11:14] <tom_o> *poor
[11:14] <cgtdk> tom_o: Just say the nickname in your message
[11:14] <DJones> !tab | tom_o
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: in a terminal, run:  cat /etc/issue    what is the output please? You can run a terminal by pressing CTRL + ALT + T
[11:15] <tom_o> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[11:16] <tom_o> cgtdk theres panel on right side
[11:16] <tom_o> cgtdk, theres panel on right side
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: ok, run: echo $USER   what is output?
[11:17] <cgtdk> tom_o: In your file manager, try pressing CTRL+H. If you are running Nautilus, that should make it show hidden items.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip>  tom_o: sudo chown -R tom_o:tom_o  ~/.wine
[11:18] <tom_o> hey, it works
[11:18] <tom_o> hidden file revealed
[11:18] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Well, I've spent hours trying to get this thing to work. To me it seems like if X is just given a little more time before its started, it will come around. And sometimes grub is shown in VESA (80x24), while others in full HD resolution. That seems to be related to if X is capable of starting on the first go or not
[11:18] <tom_o> actionpartnership: it only show my name
[11:18] <raven> xubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" when opening tightvncsession - how to solve that?
[11:19] <tom_o> whats next?
[11:20] <tom_o> i find wine drice_c
[11:20] <tom_o> *drive
[11:20] <sveinse> Anyone here with nvidia optimus/bumblebee experience? Are you capable of getting multi-head X output with it?
[11:20] <tom_o> just remind, my problem is the game need run as administrator
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: you could add a small sleep in /etc/rc.local maybe
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: above the #exit 0' line     sleep 4
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: I gave the command you need
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> 12:17 < ActionParsnip>  tom_o: sudo chown -R tom_o:tom_o  ~/.wine
[11:23] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I was uncertain if rc.local were run in parallel with gdm because of upstart. Thanks, I'll give it a go
[11:23] <tom_o> nothings out
[11:23] <tom_o> what is chown use for?
[11:23] <gordonjcp> tom_o: changing the ownership of files
[11:24] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: It is run in parallel, so it didt work. But I'll figure something out
[11:25] <tom_o> fatal error: folder acces denied! please try to run garena plus as administrator once to solve this problem
[11:25] <tom_o> my game folder maybe ?
[11:26] <tom_o> i put the game folder on desktop
[11:26] <mumpitzel> tom_o: why would you do that?
[11:26] <mumpitzel> tom_o: and why can't you do what the helpful error message suggests?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: the drivers will continue to load but the DM will not load until the sleep has completed. For example, if you do not put an ampersand in front of long or indefinitely running lines in /etc/rc.local the DM wil never load
[11:27] <tom_o> i dont understand
[11:27] <tom_o> sorry for noob
[11:27] <tom_o> what should i do ?
[11:27] <tom_o> it one\ce installed but i cant remember where i install it
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: use the uninstaller and uninstall the game
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: do you have other apps installed using wine?
[11:29] <tom_o> no
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: great, easy days
[11:29] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Didn't look like that. I added sleep 10 to rc.local, but X (lightdm) failed immediately on boot. However I had to wait 10 seconds before getting getty on tty...
[11:29] <tom_o> i uninstalled it
[11:29] <tom_o> whats next
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: uninstall the game in wine then run:  sudo rm -r ~/.wine    then reinstall the application but DONT use sudo or anything like that
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: ahhh I see
[11:30] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: I added sleep 10 prior to exec lightdm in /etc/init/lightdm.conf, and that seems to work
[11:30] <sveinse> It seems there is a race between the xorg nvidia driver and the kernel driver
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: Great!! will bear that in mind :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: very, I suggest you report a bug with your fix
[11:31] <tom_o> it still the same error message
[11:31] <tom_o> i cant root acces folder
[11:31] <tom_o> maybe im not superuser?
[11:31] <joshu> on a fresh 13.04 install in network manager there's a default "Wired connection 1". Why can't I find the config for this at /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: use sudo to uninsall the game too
[11:31] <joshu> that dir is empty
[11:31] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: I suspect that the machine is booted (by the bios) with the intel gfx, and it confuses nvidia driver when wanting to change over to the nvidia GFX chip
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: that optimus causes a tonne of headaches, I intend to avoid it like the plague
[11:32] <tom_o> im already uninstalled it
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: then delete the folders it made too
[11:32] <tom_o> where?
[11:34] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Yep. The optimus technology is great for other OS than linux. It does _great_ improvements in battery operation times. Ironically nvidia has had extremely good and stable support in linux. Until now it seems.
[11:34] <tom_o> maybe u can remote my pc?
[11:34] <raven> xubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" when opening tightvncsession - how to solve that?
[11:35] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: I owe you a thanks
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: np duder
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: i think optimus is a hack
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: what next, dual CPUs? one low power and the other nice and fast
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: its ludicrous, you may as well have 2 PCs sewn together
[11:36] <tom_o> ok
[11:36] <tom_o> i already delete the folder
[11:36] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: heh, don't be suprised. That is what is happening in the mobile arm industry. Having i7 + atom in a machine
[11:36] <tom_o> whats next? reinstall the game?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: never had an issue with nvidia but I dont use opimus, so its smoooooth sailin
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: total cludge fix, why noth have the GPUs clock up and down on demand, like CPUs do. fewer issues
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: if all remnents of it are gone, yes but install as your user. Dont use sudo
[11:37] <cgtdk> or just abandon the idea of powerful graphics in laptops
[11:38] <tom_o> how to install without sudo? i just use the game installer, not terminal
[11:38] <sveinse> cgtdk: I would not like to abandon nvidia in my laptop. Without it I'd have to use intel graphics in X. *shrugs*
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: wine /path/to/installer.exe    or use playonlinux
[11:38] <cgtdk> sveinse: what's wrong with Intel graphics?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: 3D games run smoother on nice Nvidia chips
[11:39] <wizrd> sveinse: just read about your question. Yes I have Bumblebee on 2 laptops running
[11:39] <cgtdk> ActionParsnip: As I said, the idea of powerful graphics in laptops should be abandoned
[11:40] <Ben64> tom_o: what game?
[11:40] <sveinse> cgtdk: For one, how to handle multiple monitors. I've never gotten that to work like it should.
[11:40] <sveinse> wizrd: Do you use multiple monitors on X?
[11:40] <wizrd> yep
[11:41] <cgtdk> sveinse: I see. I haven't tried that with Intel graphics.
[11:41] <tom_o> garena heroes of newerth
[11:41] <wizrd> well, one external monitor and the laptop display
[11:41] <alphix> clear
[11:41] <wizrd> since the last updates I have one minor issue
[11:41] <alphix> nice day
[11:42] <alphix> clear
[11:42] <sveinse> wizrd: How do you handle multiple monitors? xrandr?
[11:42] <tom_o> im really2 appreciate you all helpful tips
[11:42] <wizrd> sveinse: would you be surprised if I told you it worked out of the box
[11:42] <tom_o> frustated enough to start the game :D
[11:42] <wizrd> standard install of 12.04
[11:43] <tom_o> wine cant fine the installer
[11:43] <sveinse> I've never gotten that to work on my lenovo w530. I just does not detect the various output devices.
[11:43] <Ben64> tom_o: you know theres a linux client of heroes of newerth
[11:43] <sveinse> wizrd: 12.04 out of box with bumblebee? I didn't think that was a part of the standard repo.
[11:43] <tom_o> no
[11:43] <tom_o> its garena
[11:44] <tom_o> not us heroes of newerth
[11:45] <sveinse> Because I'd really like to use optimus if I could. Since I dualboot my laptop. Having optimus enabled in windows gives at least 2 hours more usage on batteries
[11:45] <Ben64> tom_o: not sure what that means, but you should try the appdb and #winehq for wine support
[11:47] <wizrd> sveinse: Bumblebee was installed afterwards. But multi monitor worked from the start
[11:47] <tom_o> how can i chack the wine is installed as root or no?
[11:47] <tom_o> *check
[11:48] <Ben64> wine just gets installed, its not installed as a certain user
[11:48] <dv-> tom_o: ls -al $(which wine)
[11:48] <Dmitry-I> ls -la wine
[11:50] <tom_o> how to change my account permission as root
[11:50] <tom_o> ?
[11:51] <sveinse> wizrd: I just tested. X cannot detect multiple displays if its running in integrated graphics (intel) or in optimus mode. Only discrete graphics (nvidia) works, and then with nvidia-settings
[11:51] <Ben64> !appdb | tom_o
[11:51] <sveinse> wizrd: What laptop is this?
[11:52] <wizrd> it's actually a barebone. Clevo
[11:52] <wizrd> got it build to order
[11:52] <tom_o> ok
[11:52] <tom_o> thank you verymuch all
[11:52] <wizrd> has a i7 ivy bridge with 32gb ram
[11:52] <wizrd> 256gb ssd and 1tb 2nd hd
[11:53] <sveinse> I think the main problem is optimus and lenovo-isms
[11:54] <wizrd> nvidia gtx675
[11:54] <sveinse> I though this laptop (Lenovo W530) was great for Ubuntu, as its on a approved for ubuntu list (IIRC)
[11:55] <wizrd> problem is that nvidia refused to create linux drivers for ivy bridge
[11:55] <wizrd> now there are drivers in beta
[11:55] <wizrd> and the bumblebee project
[11:56] <wizrd> I am not sure that it is a lenovo problem per sÃ©
[11:56] <reuf> anyone worked with h-sphere here?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> wizrd: you can use ivy bridge without an nvidia gpu you know
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> wizrd: so the intel driver in the default install will drive it if the is ontly the intel gpu
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> *only
[11:58] <wizrd> I know
[11:58] <wizrd> It was like that after the default install
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> wizrd: nvidia dont make driver for ivy bridge either, intel do
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> reuf  is that for a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:59] <wizrd> ActionParsnip: my bad. You're right
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> wizrd: np man :)
[11:59] <reuf> MonkeyDust, thanks
[11:59] <wizrd> I should not be on irc while at work ....
[12:01] <StephDC> My wi-fi card is malfunctioning, but I can't disable it, as the hardware switch is broken either. Is there anyway to disable that wi-fi card in Ubuntu? I have another wi-fi card plugged in now, and if I turn off Wireless, all of them would gone.
[12:01] <Ben64> StephDC: blacklist the driver for the bad card, or physically remove it from the computer
[12:02] <wizrd> StephDC: you might try to turn it off in BIOS
[12:02] <ufk_> hello
[12:02] <gordonjcp> StephDC: yes, rfkill
[12:02] <tom_o> i uninstall the wine and want start over
[12:02] <joshu> anyone know how to install the icons used for notifications http://cl.ly/image/1r3d0s2Y2j1E
[12:02] <ufk_> how do i upgrade my ubuntu from 12.04 to 13.04 ? do-release-upgrade doesn't let me know of updates
[12:02] <mumpitzel> tom_o: apt-get purge it and delete your ~/.wine
[12:02] <joshu> I've installed notify-osd which comes with notify-icons, but still some icons are not the same as on a standard ubuntu install
[12:02] <mumpitzel> ufk_: you will need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[12:02] <gordonjcp> ufk_: not worth it
[12:03] <tom_o> i uninstalled it using USC
[12:03] <ufk_> ok
[12:03] <gordonjcp> ufk_: it's easy to go to the next version, but not easy to skip versions
[12:03] <tom_o> its that ok ?
[12:03] <gordonjcp> ufk_: just nuke and pave with a clean install ;-)
[12:03] <ufk_> still.. do-release-upgrade doesn't let me know of new stuff
[12:03] <ufk_> the real reason is that i must have new version of tomcat! i need web socket support
[12:03] <mumpitzel> tom_o: dpkg -l |grep wine |grep ^rc
[12:03] <gordonjcp> ufk_: see if there's a backport?
[12:04] <StephDC> ufk_: Possibly because 12.04 is LTS version.
[12:04] <DJones> ufk_: You'll probably find that your system is set to only notify you of LTS upgrades, there is a setting in the repo's to only show LTS updates
[12:04] <tom_o> ?
[12:04] <ufk_> how do i disable the.. LTS thingy ?
[12:04] <StathisA> anyone virtualizing ubuntu in macosx?
[12:04] <gordonjcp> ufk_: because of the way packages work, it's fairly easy to rebuild a package for the "wrong" version and get a later package on an older release
[12:04] <Hexagonite> How do you view TIFF files in Chrome? The USPTO site uses TIFF images.
[12:05] <gordonjcp> ufk_: you don't.  And if this is a server you *want* LTS ;-)
[12:05] <DJones> ufk_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202695/no-facility-exists-in-update-manager-to-upgrade-to-a-new-version-why
[12:05] <StephDC> ufk_: Something in Software Sources or Software & Updates
[12:05] <mumpitzel> !anyone > StathisA
[12:05] <ufk_> ok... so if i want new tomcat.. just to compile from sources ?
[12:05] <tom_o> already type it, what for?
[12:05] <mumpitzel> ufk_: backport if possible
[12:06] <tom_o> how to mention ?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> ufk_: there may be a PPA
[12:06] <ufk_> what's a PPA ?
[12:06] <mumpitzel> !ppa > ufk
[12:06] <auronandace> ufk_: try backports before you try ppa
[12:06] <auronandace> !backports | ufk_
[12:06] <auronandace> !ppa | ufk_
[12:06] <tom_o> mumpitzel: already type it, what for?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> Hexagonite  #chrome is as good as unpopulated, but #chromium-support  has 90+ people, better ask there
[12:07] <mumpitzel> tom_o: to see what it puts out
[12:07] <StathisA> anyone virtualizing ubuntu in macosx? what are you using for it? parallels? fusion? smth else?...any problems? my job needs a lot of VMs (linux, windows, others) and i'm thinking of buying a macbook
[12:07] <Hexagonite> MonkeyDust: They would answer 'Get Windows' though
[12:08] <brma1> hey guys.  Anyone know if it's possible to have ubuntuforums email me my hashed password so I can figure out what password I used there?  (due to the intrusion)
[12:08] <tom_o> what next?
[12:08] <ufk_> moving to different machine brb
[12:08] <jluc> you'd better hack ubuntuforums so as to recover your pwd brma1
[12:08] <gordonjcp> brma1: that wouldn't really help
[12:08] <brma1> StathisA: I am.  I use virtualbox and am very happy with it
[12:08] <OerHeks> brma1, ask in #ubuntuforums, i guess they won't send you the hasdhed password
[12:08] <keon> hi ,when I install cross complier,i tried to compile rtems-4.10.2,i type #make all,then it was wrong,here is something message:
[12:09] <StathisA> brma1: can i pm you?
[12:09] <keon> configure: error: Required header stdint.h not found
[12:09] <keon> configure: error: /bin/bash '/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/rtems-4.10.2/c/src/../../cpukit/configure' failed for ../../cpukit
[12:09] <keon> make[2]: *** [leon3] 错误 1
[12:09] <keon> make[2]:正在离开目录 `/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/b-rtems/sparc-rtems4.10/c'
[12:09] <keon> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] 错误 1
[12:09] <keon> make[1]:正在离开目录 `/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/b-rtems/sparc-rtems4.10/c'
[12:09] <FloodBot1> keon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <keon> make: *** [all-recursive] 错误 1
[12:09] <gordonjcp> brma1: I guess you know what *you* chose as a password so you can try hashing it yourself
[12:09] <Ben64> tom_o: next is go to the appdb and/or #winehq and see if they can help you get your game working
[12:09] <brma1> StathisA: sure thing
[12:09] <gordonjcp> !pastebin > keon
[12:09] <auronandace> !checkinstall | keon
[12:09] <brma1> gordonjcp: yes exactly, it wouldn't take long
[12:10] <gordonjcp> brma1: you'd also need to know the salt chosen
[12:10] <tirengarfio> what is the .dbus folder in my home folder?
[12:11] <tirengarfio> can I remove it?
[12:11] <auronandace> tirengarfio: no
[12:12] <tirengarfio> auronandace, why?
[12:12] <brma1> gordonjcp: good call
[12:12] <DNB> hey i got 2 hdd with ntfs file system. when i copy a file between them in windows the speed is more than 100 MB/s . In ubuntu and debian live cds is 10 MB/s . Anyone knows why ?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> tirengarfio  it contains dbus-sessions
[12:13] <auronandace> tirengarfio: because dbus is required
[12:13] <Ben64> DNB: because its not a linux native filesystem, and implementation of it is still not perfect
[12:14] <DNB> so if i get dbus i will be fine ?
[12:14] <tbalthazar> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu on my Mac mini. I followed those instructions to create a bootable USB stick http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx. The USB stick is shown at boot when I use it on my MacBook Air, but not on my (old) Mac mini. Any idea?
[12:14] <arc__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHynTb0yXE&feature=youtu.be
[12:14] <Elisha> hfs ?
[12:15] <Elisha> oh, probably old mac mini doesn't support usb booting
[12:15] <tbalthazar> Elisha: I think it supports usb booting cause I can install OS X using a USB key …
[12:16] <OerHeks> arc__, why do you want us to watch a youtube thingy?
[12:16] <arc__> it is really bad how-to
[12:16] <DNB> tbalthazar press f12 when booting maybe ?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> arc__  this is not the place to say that
[12:16] <gao_> hi guys
[12:16] <arc__> it is my video
[12:16] <arc__> so you know
[12:17] <jluc> using Acrobat Reader, i can only copy *once* some part of a PDF - i then have to close the reader and open it again so as to copy some other part of text in it. Is this known issue ? Is there a solution ?
[12:17] <gao_> who can tell me how to install kdialog in my ubuntu environment?
[12:17] <gao_> thanks
[12:17] <DJones> arc__: Please don't spam youtube links, if you have a support question, explain it in the channel first
[12:17] <gordonjcp> jluc: you'd need to take that up with Adobe
[12:17] <jluc> si i'm the only one
[12:17] <jluc> sO
[12:17] <gordonjcp> jluc: is there a reason why you can't use evince?
[12:18] <ufk> is there a ppa for newer tomcat ?
[12:18] <gordonjcp> ufk: what version are you looking for?
[12:18] <marianne> Hi, Anyone know the name of a group where I can ask specific hardware questions?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> marianne  ##hardware
[12:18] <gordonjcp> marianne: ##hardware
[12:19] <marianne> MonkeyDust: Thank you
[12:19] <marianne> gordonjcp: thanks
[12:20] <jluc> i cant rememeber any reason why i couldnt use evince so i will switch to it
[12:20] <ufk> gordonjcp, 7.0.30+
[12:21] <tbalthazar> dnb : thanks, but didn't work
[12:21] <ufk> i need websockets support
[12:22] <ufk> i think it's supported from 7.0.29
[12:22] <jluc> thank you gordonjcp
[12:23] <ufk> i use ubuntu 12.04TLS and i need tomcat 7.0.29+
[12:23] <ufk> i checked and i didn't find backports
[12:23] <jluc> http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=1474010 says ubuntu one is not affected but i have received a mail warning for ubuntu one
[12:24] <Pici> jluc: Have you asked in #ubuntu-one ?
[12:26] <jluc> no but sorry for the noise - it's not very important to me since i dont use it. it didnt sync well when i tried it.
[12:26] <Pici> jluc: To my knowledge there was no impact on the Ubuntu One logins. Is it possible that someone else requested a password reset for your login name?
[12:27] <keon> hi all
[12:27] <derp> hey
[12:27] <cfhowlett> keon, greetings
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Pici, everything I've seen specified forums only.  of course, if you use the same login for UbuntuOne, well ...
[12:28] <henkpoley> I've updated a test machine with an Nvidia Ion to Ubuntu 13.10. When I switch to Nouveau (open source driver), how do I then turn on Mir/Xmir ?
[12:28] <keon> i meet some questions when i compile rtems,afer typing make all,problems come,like this:configure: error: Required header stdint.h not found
[12:28] <keon> configure: error: /bin/bash '/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/rtems-4.10.2/c/src/../../cpukit/configure' failed for ../../cpukit
[12:28] <keon> make[2]: *** [leon3] 错误 1
[12:28] <keon> make[2]:正在离开目录 `/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/b-rtems/sparc-rtems4.10/c'
[12:28] <keon> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] 错误 1
[12:28] <keon> make[1]:正在离开目录 `/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/b-rtems/sparc-rtems4.10/c'make: *** [all-recursive] 错误 1
[12:29] <FloodBot1> keon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:29] <joshu> I can't get a mobile broadband connection to start automatically when I plugin the usb modem even though I have "automatically connect to this network when it is available"
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !cn|keon,
[12:29] <quetzakubica> Guys can I in bash script open new tab in terminal?
[12:29] <keon> can anyone give me some sugestions?thanks
[12:30] <cfhowlett> keon, compiling issues?  best asked in #linux
[12:30] <quetzakubica> I want my bash script to open two terminals, activate virtualenvs on it and go to specific directory. Can I do that?
[12:30] <keon> thanks ,i have compiled it for a long time
[12:30] <auronandace> quetzakubica: #bash could help better
[12:30] <quetzakubica> auronandace: ok
[12:31] <bhavesh> I am writing to my Ubuntu 12.04's EXT3 home partition from windows 8 with Ext2Fsd, will it write in the same way linux does or will it write in windows way and fragment my EXT3 partition?
[12:32] <roboto_> Why do my network files have server icons, when access I get: Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection refused. This happens seemingly arbitrarily. Fresh install of 13.04, doesn't happen on my laptop with 12.04 same config.
[12:32] <roboto_> using samba
[12:33] <ufk> how can i configure that when i reboot tomcat won't start in init scripts ?
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> ufk  alf-f2 > startup applications
[12:35] <aenemic> just a quick question from a beginner here, trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on my retina macbook, but it been stuck on "Detecting file systems..." for 10-15 minutes now. I have done the refind/refit install, and running install from the "try ubuntu" option without GRUB
[12:35] <zasek> WoT on Ubuntu?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> zasek  use full sentences please
[12:38] <ufk> MonkeyDust, alf-f2?!
[12:38] <bbotf> Hi all
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> ufk  alt-f2 is used to run programs
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> launch*
[12:39] <ufk> connecting using ssh here
[12:39] <ufk> no gui
[12:39] <bbotf> Anyone here using steam with ubuntu? how is the performance if you do im considering migrating to ubuntu again now that i can play my games on linux
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> ufk  I missed that part
[12:39] <ufk> :)
[12:40] <kvothetech> bbotf: you've been able to play games on linux forever ...that said like most games on most any other platform depends on the game and your hardware
[12:40] <auronandace> !steam | bbotf
[12:40] <curatrix> bbotf: It has a few issues, but I find it to be pretty stable (on a program by program basis)
[12:41] <bbotf> kvothetech games yes, the games i want to with good performance not allways
[12:41] <bbotf> aurinandace: thanks ill switch chans
[12:43] <gao_> i fix it :D
[12:43] <gao_> just install kdebase-bin :D
[12:46] <Guest92227> close
[12:50] <kc4lzn> I installed 12.04 alongside of a previously installed 10.04. Didn't think it would affect the 10.04 and  now states when I boot on that OS, that the /sbin/init file is not present and leaves me at the prompt of (initramfs). Any ideas?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> bbotf: perfomance is dependant on system spec, so a low end box will perform badly compared to a high end box
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> bbotf: so the question is null
[12:51] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: did you install them in different partitions?
[12:52] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: yes
[12:52] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: check the "kernel" lines in your grub.cfg then
[12:56] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: Because I cannot get past this initramfs, Is it commandable from here Or is there some other option to access the grub.cfg file?
[12:57] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: or is that looked at when I am at the option to select OS?
[13:00] <hudini> hi guys
[13:00] <hudini> i need some help..
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> hudini  let's hear it
[13:00] <cgtdk> !ask | hudini
[13:00] <cgtdk> :(
[13:00] <cgtdk> :)
[13:01] <harvi> hudini: no problem just write your problem here and someone will help you :)
[13:03] <tom_o> how to install wine without root access?
[13:04] <auronandace> tom_o: installation of anything will require sudo
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> he's gone
[13:05] <chunkyhead> is there a way to channel skype volume to headphone
[13:05] <chunkyhead> and music on laptop speaker
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:06] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: can you boot either ubuntu installation?
[13:07] <kc4lzn> Yes, I can boot the 12.04
[13:07] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: Yes, I can boot the 12.04
[13:08] <tom_o> how to install wine without root access?
[13:08] <auronandace> tom_o: installation of anything will require sudo
[13:09] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: I tried to access the partition in nautilus but stated that it had an error mounting. Bad superblock
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: he had an issue earlier where he installed a game in wine using sudo access
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: so the files in the install were root owned
[13:09] <keon> do anyone know how to install cross compile?
[13:09] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: file -s <device file of partition> then
[13:09] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: you might have killed that partition for good
[13:10] <StephDC> tom_o: How about compile from source code to a local folder, then add the folder to $PATH ?
[13:10] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: That's not good. I've done simple installs in partitions before and hope you're incorrect. New hard drive so I hope not.Isn't there a repair procedure for bad blocks?
[13:11] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: that is not a bad block when it can't find the superblock. there is more than one superblock
[13:11] <chunkyhead> is there a way to channel skype volume to headphone and music from laptop speakers
[13:12] <Pici> gary /70
[13:12] <Pici> oops
[13:13] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: Ok. So, is there any test to run to confirm this?
[13:14] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: there is smartmon-tools, there is badblocks, etc. very unlikely either of them will help you
[13:14] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: again, what does file(1) say?
[13:16] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: Because I cannot mount the partition, I cannot read any files from that partition
[13:17] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: that doesn't mean it's hardware failed. last chance: what does file(1) say?
[13:19] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: My apologies, I saw where you requested "file -s <device file of partition> then" and I did not receive the rest of your request.
[13:19] <sibiraj> hi
[13:19] <sibiraj> Any one there to help me here.
[13:20] <Pici> !ask  | sibiraj
[13:21] <sibiraj> I am using one usb modem to connect to internet.
[13:22] <sibiraj> but not connected yet
[13:23] <sibiraj> Hi any one there
[13:23] <sibiraj> ?
[13:23] <nemchik> hi
[13:24] <hudini> someone answered my question ,but thank you guys
[13:24] <keon> we like share !
[13:24] <elimik> Is it secure to use the preinstalled keymanager for storing my passwords? I created a password folder with a pretty secure password, but somehow I don't have to give the password to open it and look at my password. It seems Ubuntu unlocks it automatically when I give my password during login.
[13:25] <hudini> ubottu thank you man ,i got my answer ,but thanks again.. : )
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> hudini  ubottu is a she
[13:26] <elimik> What I mean: They login key ring has the key for my password folder and I can't remove it from there. Well I can, but if I do it appears again after every login.
[13:27] <keon> what is bot？
[13:27] <hudini> oh sorry i didnt know that
[13:27] <nemchik> my netbook (ubuntu 13.04) causes the rest of my network to slow to a crawl when it's connected to the network (via wifi, havent tried over ethernet) but my router shows (on the web interface's live traffic view) that theres really no traffic, so im assuming it's just making connections and clogging things, but not really transferring much (still causing the network to slow other devices connections to unusable) - also when i run netho
[13:27] <nemchik> gs nothing really shows unless i run transmission, which leaves the list when closed - also when i run netstat i have TONS of things from @/tmp/dbus
[13:28] <keon> bot
[13:28] <nemchik> huh?
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> !bot > keon
[13:28] <keon> bot is someone manage?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> keon  a bot is a program, a robot, so to say
[13:31] <keon> thanks
[13:31] <hudini> oh guys ,i tryed to install kali linux and i had problems ,because the bootloader wouldnt install itself on the system .. i tryed graphical install ,could that be that the bootloader had a conflict with booloader of windows ..
[13:32] <hudini> can i install the bootloader manually?
[13:32] <auronandace> hudini: kali isn't supported here
[13:32] <Maple__> hudini, ask #kali-linux
[13:32] <hudini> hmm okay
[13:33] <hudini> but the backtrack version of it is based on ubuntu ,right?
[13:33] <auronandace> hudini: just like ubuntu is based off debain but #debian doesn't support ubuntu
[13:33] <QTPieMan> is this package preinstalled in ubuntu 13.04, "linux-image-generic 38.0.26.44" ?
[13:34] <auronandace> QTPieMan: preinstalled no, thats the latest kernel from the repo
[13:34] <QTPieMan> auronandace, its showing that is was autumatically installed
[13:35] <auronandace> QTPieMan: that should be 3.8 not 38
[13:35] <QTPieMan> auronandace, yup that will be 3.8
[13:35] <auronandace> QTPieMan: the kernel is a fundamental part of ubuntu
[13:36] <auronandace> QTPieMan: i thought you were asking if that particular version was on the install media
[13:36] <auronandace> QTPieMan: the install media ships with an older version
[13:36] <QTPieMan> auronandace, install media?
[13:37] <auronandace> QTPieMan: the cd you installed ubuntu with
[13:37] <QTPieMan> auronandace, oh, it came whwn i updated my system?
[13:37] <auronandace> QTPieMan: indeed
[13:38] <QTPieMan> auronandace, well it was previously removed by me, and i installed it again via synaptic package manager, can that harm my system?
[13:39] <tom_o> ActionParsnip, : hellow
[13:39] <elimik> Is it secure to use the preinstalled keymanager for storing my passwords? I created a password folder with a pretty secure password. However, the login key ring has the key for my password folder and I can't remove it from there. Well I can, but if I do it appears again after every login.
[13:40] <auronandace> QTPieMan: i can't see why it would
[13:41] <QTPieMan> auronandace, oh as its kernel and i removed it thats why
[13:42] <auronandace> QTPieMan: you can have multiple kernels installed
[13:43] <breadkrum> is using the fglrx ati drivers safe they seem to make steam games better but are kinda buggy. like when i quit mame the screen resolution changes but with the regular ones it doesnt
[13:44] <QTPieMan> auronandace, oh ok, thanks. and also is this package preinstalled or done manually? "libunique-1.0-0" ?
[13:44] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: I was on the computer in question so I could not continue the chat and look at the grub config at the same time. Since I don't have a log of our conversation, can I ask your question again? What file line item was in question?
[13:45] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: I'm looking at the grub config file now.
[13:45] <Mestre-Splinter> Hey guys, I need some help. I tried to search in the foruns but it is offline.
[13:45] <auronandace> !find libunique
[13:46] <Equinox3> Mestre-Splinter: on what?
[13:46] <mumpitzel> KC4LZN: nothing of grub.cfg if you can't mount the root partition from another ubuntu
[13:46] <hudini> auronandace
[13:46] <mumpitzel> KC4LZN: your filesystem is broken beyond repair most likely.
[13:46] <auronandace> !info libunique-1.0-0
[13:46] <hudini> auronandace yeah so true ..
[13:46] <Mestre-Splinter> Im running xubuntu 13.04, and my wireless keep disconnecting.
[13:46] <hudini> auronandace its ok then ..
[13:46] <QTPieMan> auronandace, in terminal?
[13:46] <auronandace> QTPieMan: installed by default
[13:46] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: check syslog and your dmesg output.
[13:46] <QTPieMan> auronandace, oh ok thanks
[13:47] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: also name the chipset and driver for your wlan device
[13:47] <Mestre-Splinter> If im downloading something have 90% of chance of disconnect
[13:47] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: Thanks for your input.
[13:47] <QTPieMan> anybody tried Xojo? is it any better than Eclipse?
[13:47] <Equinox3> Mestre-Splinter:  are you connecting to a router or AP somewhere out side
[13:48] <mumpitzel> KC4LZN: fourth time now: check with file(1)
[13:48] <Mestre-Splinter> To a router
[13:48] <Equinox3> Mestre-Splinter: and what is your wireless driver?
[13:48] <Mestre-Splinter> RLT8187
[13:49] <Equinox3> have you tried iwconfig by setting the tx-power to the max
[13:50] <Equinox3> what does your iwconfig wlan0 show?
[13:50] <Mestre-Splinter> Equinox3, I didnt.
[13:50] <szabo> could someone answer to some questions about some troubles im having with ubuntu on pvt, ive got several and i dont want to flood the channel with noob questions...
[13:50] <Mestre-Splinter> Jsut a sec
[13:50] <Equinox3> also try turning power management off, it works sometimes
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> szabo  what's pvt?
[13:51] <szabo> private
[13:51] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: put the output of sudo iwlist scanning|grep -A 4 Frequency   into a pastebin
[13:51] <neo_> need some help, Flash Audio is all staticy any suggestions?
[13:51] <keon> can i ask some quetions about rtems here?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> szabo  simply ask your questions in the channel, one at a time and in one line
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> neo_:is other audio ok?
[13:54] <QTPieMan> neo_, in playing audio only or video as well?
[13:54] <neo_> ActionParsnip, As far as i know
[13:54] <neo_> QTPieMan,  Audio and Video but the Video plays fine ,
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> neo_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[13:54] <szabo> ok, first of all every app im downloading and using disappears when i log in again. i dont understand why.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> neo_: use a pastebin to host the output
[13:55] <neo_> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/iNVSVmk8
[13:58] <neo_> ActionParsnip, its weird because when I use xubuntu audio is fine but when i use anything else it turns out the same way,
[13:59] <QTPieMan> neo_, how u installed flash?
[13:59] <neo_> ActionParsnip, Maybe it has something to do with Xubuntu using HDA instead of ALSA
[13:59] <neo_> QTPieMan, from the repositories
[14:00] <neo_> QTPieMan,  ''sudo apt-get install flashplugin-intaller'' is the command i used
[14:00] <BluesKaj> neo_, alsa uses the intel hda driver , they aren't mutually exclusive
[14:01] <neo_> BluesKaj, I know but I find it odd tbqh
[14:02] <QTPieMan> neo_, you may try gnash
[14:02] <tom_o> how can i change ownership to default?
[14:02] <auronandace> !permissions | tom_o
[14:02] <neo_> QTPieMan, Gnash just makes it worse, Guess its back to using jdownloader + VLC
[14:03] <BluesKaj> neo_, I use 2 audio drivers , one on Card 0 ,and the other as Card 1 one is an m-audio and the other is the intel hda
[14:03] <QTPieMan> neo_, who use jdownloader?
[14:04] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: I'm not following, check with file (1)... what file?
[14:04] <neo_> QTPieMan, i need to use Jdownloader to get full download speed, My ISP throttles my connetion
[14:04] <Mestre-Splinter> Ok guys, sorry , im back. can i paste the output here or in pmsg?
[14:04] <neo_> Mestre-Splinter, pastebin.com
[14:04] <QTPieMan> neo_, i was trying to tell removing flash and installing lightspark or gnash
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | Mestre-Splinter
[14:04] <Mestre-Splinter> neo_ ty!
[14:05] <QTPieMan> neo_, i use aria2 its good also try downthemall in firefox
[14:05] <neo_> QTPieMan, Ive tried Gnash and the audio remains the same
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter> !pastebinit wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"RunDaTrap"
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 70:54:D2:B4:36:1A
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Power Management:off
[14:05] <FloodBot1> Mestre-Splinter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Link Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm
[14:07] <Mestre-Splinter> ifconfig wlan0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5911253/
[14:08] <Mestre-Splinter> iwlist scanning|grep -A 4 frequency : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5911254/
[14:09] <keon>  hi all,when i type make all,some problems occur:make[1]: *** [all-recursive]
[14:09] <szabo> ive downloaded amarok and vlc three times now and never memorizes it in the next session
[14:09] <keon> can anybody gives me some sugestion?
[14:09] <tom_o> hello
[14:09] <tom_o> how can i change ownership to default?
[14:09] <thehumanelement> Hey guys, you know how you can put AlbumArt.jpg files (which is a bit crap - I prefer embedding the art in the MP3/FLAC files) : What is the equivalent for folder DVD rips (or even .mkv files) to show like a movie poster or DVD cover instead of either just a folder icon or a thumbnail of some random scene?
[14:10] <Mestre-Splinter> So the problem persists, and when the wifi stop working i have to disable and enable the wireless and it is back
[14:10] <thehumanelement> hello tom_o, I have often wondered this, can you be more specific? I looked into this the other day (I think I saw the Mac's "Fix Permissions" feature in some forum). I reckon in Linux there is no easy way to do this and it depends on where in the filesystem  you want to set the permissions
[14:11] <thehumanelement> I mean, ownership (/ permissions)
[14:11] <tom_o> no, ijut want to play a game with wine and it says access folder denied and need run as administrator
[14:12] <thehumanelement> oh right
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> tom_o  we've learned that you only have root access. why not reinstall the game
[14:12] <thehumanelement> Is it some kind of Windows program that makes the dialogue box that says that?
[14:12] <thehumanelement> Is it an old game?
[14:13] <tom_o> i reinstall the game but the same result
[14:13] <thehumanelement> normally when you install things in regular Wine you have ultimate ownership over everything
[14:13] <thehumanelement> Is it some kind of Windows program that makes the dialogue box that says that?
[14:13] <tom_o> heroes of newerth garena
[14:13] <thehumanelement> do you have anything else installed in Wine?
[14:13] <tom_o> no
[14:13] <tom_o> i just use wine for hon
[14:14] <Mestre-Splinter> mumpitzel, iwlist scanning|grep -A 4 frequency : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5911254/
[14:16] <keon> clear
[14:16] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: and your AP is which one of them?
[14:16] <tom_o> hellow
[14:17] <Mestre-Splinter> mumpitzel, the first one. "RunDaTrap"
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> tom_o  i thing heroes to newert has been ported to linux, no wine needed http://longturn.org/intro/  <-- "Do I need to download anything to play?"
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> think*
[14:18] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: not much you can do: you already are on the least crowedd part of the spectrum
[14:18] <tom_o> not us heroes of newerth
[14:18] <tom_o> its garena version
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> tom_o  wrong link, my mistake, sorry
[14:18] <Mestre-Splinter> mumpitzel, what you mean?
[14:21] <tom_o> it doesnt matter which HON i play
[14:21] <blackheart> i want to remove youtube app from ubuntu 13.04
[14:21] <blackheart> any help ?
[14:22] <tom_o> i just wondering this error
[14:22] <tom_o> folder acces denied, try to run as administrator
[14:23] <QTPieMan> anybody tried qupzilla? is it safe?
[14:23] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: You've stated, first, second, third and now fourth, check file(1)... what file?
[14:23] <mumpitzel> file(1) is a command. the (1) tells you in which part of the manpages the documentation for it is
[14:24] <blackheart> i have installed youtube app in ubuntu 13.04 please tell me  how to remove it
[14:24] <pankaj_sharma> ubuntu is hacked?
[14:24] <mumpitzel> pankaj_sharma: no. a ubuntu forum was
[14:24] <thehumanelement> hi, sorry I was AFK tom_o
[14:25] <mumpitzel> blackheart: what youtube app did you install? from where?
[14:25] <pankaj_sharma> holy mother of god
[14:25] <thehumanelement> you can try renaming /home/tom_o/.wine to a different name and try installing again
[14:25] <thehumanelement> have you ever fiddled with the default permissions or ownership for your Ubuntu?
[14:25] <thehumanelement> But again I ask, that dialogue box, was it from the game?
[14:25] <thehumanelement> or from Wine (or even from Ubuntu)?
[14:26] <blackheart> mumptzel: well when i opened youtube day it firefox suggested to install it  now  i wanna remove it !
[14:28] <defishguy> tattoli:  Good morning!
[14:29] <Pici> blackheart: Are you talking about a firefox extension? or flash? or what? please provide as much information  as possible for us to help you better.
[14:29] <proceed> Hey, guys; I have a question: Can I delete the old images found in my /boot folder?
[14:30] <QTPieMan> anybody tried qupzilla? is it safe?
[14:31] <auronandace> proceed: remove them by the package manager
[14:32] <Pici> QTPieMan: What is that? I don't see anything by that name in the repositories?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> proceed: uninstall old unused kernels
[14:33] <braulio> Hello guys, I use Xubuntu 13.04 and I'm trying to configure on my international keyboard the ABNT keyboard. I read a tutorial that said that I should edit the file "~/.bashrc" and add to the last line "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us_intl". Which worked great. The only thing that I notice is that everytime I reboot the system it goes back to the ABNT for a Portuguese keyboard (not international), and I have to open the terminal and close it in order to
[14:33] <braulio> make it work again (I don't even have to do anything, just open and close). Is there any way to "fix" this?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> qupzilla is a browser, is what I read here
[14:33] <QTPieMan> Pici, thats is a browser comes with chakra linux, also available for others
[14:33] <Pici> QTPieMan: Talk to the chakra linux people then? I'm not sure how we're supposed to know that.
[14:34] <thehumanelement> Hey guys, you know how you can put AlbumArt.jpg files (which is a bit crap - I prefer embedding the art in the MP3/FLAC files) : What is the equivalent for folder DVD rips (or even .mkv files) to show like a movie poster or DVD cover instead of either just a folder icon or a thumbnail of some random scene?
[14:34] <QTPieMan> Pici, i just asked here, that is also available in ubuntu check http://www.qupzilla.com/download
[14:35] <auronandace> QTPieMan: installing anything from outside the repos always has some risk and doesn't get supported here
[14:35] <rypervenche> QTPieMan: It is a very good browser in my opinion, but it is still very new and lacking in some areas.
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> thehumanelement  show it where?
[14:35] <QTPieMan> auronandace, its in repos
[14:36] <proceed> Alright. Thank you both ActionParsnip and autonandace.
[14:36] <Pici> QTPieMan: PPAs are not official repositories.
[14:36] <auronandace> !info qupzilla
[14:36] <auronandace> QTPieMan: no it isn't
[14:36] <QTPieMan> Pici, hmm ok
[14:36] <QTPieMan> auronandace, ok
[14:36] <thehumanelement> show it when you look at the folder in nautilus I guess
[14:37] <thehumanelement> or if you were using a media app like Banshee, although I don't think it actually knows where my videos are
[14:37] <QTPieMan> why mir is better than x.org ?
[14:37] <auronandace> !mir | QTPieMan
[14:37] <thehumanelement> because no-one uses X for remoting so it's kind of pointless?
[14:38] <QTPieMan> ubottu, ok
[14:38] <QTPieMan> auronandace, what is that"?
[14:38] <QTPieMan> ubottu, ?? huh O.o
[14:38] <auronandace> QTPieMan: read what ubottu said
[14:38] <Pici> !bot
[14:39] <QTPieMan> auronandace, yup ok
[14:39] <uhelp> What channel do I join to ask about how to upload a file with wput?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  wput is in the repos, so try here... i guess it's related to wget?
[14:40] <clue_h> !foo
[14:41] <uhelp> OK, what command line options do I need to upload a file using wput with 12.04.x LTS?
[14:41] <uhelp> I don't want the command to "SKIPPING FILE" I wan the command to upload it.
[14:41] <QTPieMan> !ubuntu
[14:41] <clue_h> !search mir
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> clue_h  use /msg ubottu to test !factoids, please
[14:42] <clue_h> I'm doing that at the same time, but ok i will hush.
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  in a terminal, type    man wput      and learn from there
[14:43] <thisguyagain> guys, my lightdm is restarting again and again (can't login_)
[14:44] <thisguyagain> however if I login into a guest account, it doesn't happen
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> thisguyagain  can you login in a different DE ?
[14:44] <thisguyagain> I tried differnt DE on the same account, same thing happens.
[14:44] <tom_o> hellow
[14:44] <tom_o> how to change account permission to root ?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: use chown
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> thisguyagain  also: press ctrl-alt F1, login and use df -h to know if any partition is 100% full    (that happened to me)
[14:45] <tom_o> actionparsnip
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  keep it in the channel please
[14:46] <thisguyagain> MonkeyDust: I _am_ in tty1. this is irssi... and no, my disk is only 29% filled
[14:46] <raven> xubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" when opening tightvncsession - how to solve that?
[14:46] <pxpx> hola
[14:46] <tom_o> ActionParsnip, how to change back my wine ownership
[14:46] <uhelp> MonkeyDust I looked at the man page before I came here and it was useless (to me).
[14:47] <QTPieMan> anybody tried xojo?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  then state what you want to achieve -- tip: i'm not familiar with it myself, but maybe someone else in the channel is
[14:48] <mumpitzel> uhelp: where do you want to upload something? to what server, what kind of server?
[14:48] <uhelp> I wish for wput to upload the files I specify instead of skipping them for a mystery reason it doesn't specify
[14:48] <thisguyagain> also, If I ps -aux, I find a new user "124" owning almost all processes
[14:49] <uhelp> umpitzel: it is an ftp server
[14:49] <uhelp> umpitzel: if I delete the file from the FTP server it ALWAYS uploads
[14:50] <mumpitzel> uhelp: so you can upload but not when the file already exists?
[14:52] <uhelp> mumpitzel: i can upload when a file already exists but not every time
[14:52] <uhelp> mumpitzel: wput SOMETIMES instead says it is skipping the file and when I use --verbose it says it is skipping it due to "rules" without saying which ones
[14:53] <mumpitzel> uhelp: you using the -u option?
[14:53] <uhelp> mumpitzel: I want it to simply take the file I specify and upload it to the place I say ... I don't want any "help" from wput which is so smart it knows I didn't actually want to upload the file I told it to.
[14:54] <uhelp> mumpitzel: I have tried with and without ... which should I be using?
[14:54] <mumpitzel> with. it will upload stuff even when it already exists on the server
[14:58] <andreb> morning all
[14:58] <proceed> What could possibly be the consequence of removing old kernel images? Will I survive?
[14:59] <andreb> is it possible to have fail2ban send emails to multiple address when it bans an ip instead of just one ?
[14:59] <auronandace> proceed: the consequence would be the freeing up of some space
[14:59] <mumpitzel> proceed: as long as you don't need the old kernels anymore it's fine. if your new kernel doesn't work for some reason it can be bad
[15:00] <usr13> Login credentials for http://ubuntuforums.org & https://launchpad.net/ are the same.  True__________?  False________?
[15:00] <Pici> usr13: false
[15:01] <uhelp> mumpitzel: UGH.  I think the problem is not wput but godaddy.  wput IS sending the file when I need it to but sometimes the old file remains in the directory on godaddy -- the "SKIPPING FILES" files could be skipped but files which needed to be uploaded aren't appearing on godaddy
[15:01] <usr13> That's what I thought. (Was asked that question, my answer was disputed, but, as I think back, that may have been because the individual just had same ID and Pass for both).
[15:02] <joshu> is it a bug in 13.04 that autoconnect=true doesn't work for network manager/system-connections?
[15:02] <uhelp> mumpitzel: thank you so much ... I will call godaddy support -- the bastards
[15:02] <wcchandler> papa shuttleworth is going to do an AMA on reddit in a little while
[15:03] <usr13> I don't do that, I know the problems it can lead to and so I have a LOT of LoginIDs and Passwords to keep up with, but I'm afraid most dont do that, or many dont ... I just don't know.
[15:04] <d3struc70r> Hi
[15:04] <arc__> what cool thing can i do ubuntu 12/04
[15:05] <d3struc70r> u can develop a pretty exploit
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> !ot
[15:05] <arc__> lol
[15:06] <trnv> amazon search really likes showing music in shopping lens
[15:07] <trnv> not very useful :( should show more kindle
[15:07] <varunendra> joshu, in my 12.04, it is either autoconnect=false, or no line at all.
[15:07] <hotdogggg> where is the lightdm lock file?
[15:07] <hotdogggg> is there one?
[15:07] <joshu> varunendra so no line means it will autoconnect?
[15:07] <usr13> hotdogggg: I don't think there is.
[15:07] <varunendra> joshu, yes
[15:08] <joshu> varunendra going to test that now
[15:08] <andreb> can anyone help me ?
[15:09] <varunendra> joshu, I think it is the same way for "Allow everyone". A user ID means only that user, no line=everyone.
[15:09] <joshu> varunendra interesting didn't know that. I just rebooted and it won't connect automatically to mobile broadband only to ethernet
[15:09] <joshu> very odd
[15:09] <hotdogggg> usr13: I am repeatedly redirected back to login screen. Happens only in my account.. Guest account works fine. not a DE issue..
[15:10] <usr13> andreb: Im sure that *someone* can.  (But only if you ask a question.)
[15:10] <hotdogggg> usr13: If it works fine for other accounts, there is a lock for my account.. rgith?
[15:10] <usr13> hotdogggg: How do you know it's not a DE issue?
[15:10] <mumpitzel> usr13: he already did. a pretty useless one but a question it was
[15:10] <trnv> tried checking the system log under auth?
[15:11] <hotdogggg> usr13: Even if I use other DEs, I get the same problem. and all DEs work fine with other account
[15:11] <usr13> mumpitzel: Ok, well sorry for the needless comment.
[15:11] <andreb> usr13 : I am trying to configure fail2ban to send out email notifications to 2 email address instead of one.. but i dont see any where in the manual if that is possible
[15:11] <hotdogggg> usr13: Guest acc, that is.
[15:11] <usr13> hotdogggg: df
[15:11] <varunendra> joshu, for mobile broadband, you need to initiate the connection manually. Autoconnect only means that connection will be retried automatically if an initial attempt fails (3 times, then a break of a few minutes, then again).
[15:11] <hotdogggg> usr13: Not full
[15:11] <mumpitzel> usr13: not as if mine were needed :P or this one either. gotta stop polluting ;)
[15:11] <hotdogggg> usr13: like less than half filled
[15:12] <usr13> hotdogggg: Ctrl-Alt-F6  Look around for issue(s)  Not really sure.....
[15:12] <joshu> varunendra oh really the wording make me think it would connect automatically. So to have the connection done automatically I would have to right a script?
[15:12] <joshu> *made
[15:12] <trnv> look under /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[15:12] <trnv>  for error?
[15:13] <varunendra> joshu, for mobile broadband, yes.
[15:14] <joshu> varunendra very helpful thanks! if I want to do this at the lightdm greeter login screen would I use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autorun_a_Command
[15:14] <tom_o> what is default permission of application?
[15:15] <varunendra> joshu, that part I've no experience. I'm myself using mobile broadband, and never tried to automate that..
[15:16] <joshu> varunendra ok maybe someone else knows if LightDM's auto run is the place to put a mobile broadband auto connection script?
[15:17] <raub> Which ubuntu release can I get with kernel version  around  2.6.32?
[15:18] <usr13> hotdogggg Ctrl-Alt-F6 Login as same user. See if you see any errors.  If not: tail -f /var/log/syslog  #Leave it running,  Alt-Right-Arrow, (or Ctrl-Alt-F7) Attempt to login again.  Ctrl-Alt-F6 (back to tty6) and see if there is anything in syslog showing up about any sort of errors.  (Or just look at the file and see now;  cat /var/log/syslog )
[15:18] <holstein> raub: nothing that is supported for the desktop officially AFAIK
[15:19] <varunendra> joshu, you can search the net for auto-reconnect script. I think I saw one once, unfortunately (actually fortunately then), it was on the forums. That script not only could initiate a connection, but also monitor and re-establish it if disconnected while use.
[15:19] <deltadown> hi
[15:19] <S-1438> when installing Ubuntu 12.04.2 for a dual boot system, the install process lets you re-size the partitions however you wish to but there is nothing that indicates which partition is for which operating system. Is there a way to tell?
[15:19] <joshu> varunendra Thanks for the tip I'll google
[15:20] <deltadown> some one can help me get installation done? got stuck at "trying to enable frame buffer..."
[15:20] <mumpitzel> deltadown: what videocard? optimus?
[15:20] <DJones> raub: 2.6.32 was in lucid, but desktop support for that ended in May 2013, precise starts at 3.2
[15:20] <holstein> raub: 10.04, supported for the server, has a 2.6 kernel
[15:21] <varunendra> joshu, for the boot time execution, you can add any command/script to /etc/rc.local file. Just make sure to insert any lines before the "exit 0" line in it.
[15:21] <holstein> !nomodeset | deltadown is what i would try
[15:21] <raub> holstein: thanks!
[15:21] <trnv> now if only canonical hadn't forgotten to patch ubuntuforum ;)
[15:22] <holstein> trnv: careful, someone might assume you are volunteering
[15:22] <joshu> varunendra ok I'm curious to know which method is better using the /etc/rc.local or lightdm display-setup-script
[15:22] <varunendra> S-1438, it is best to do the partition manipulation from within windows if it is the other OS.
[15:22] <deltadown> ok ill try tath i didnt really care about grafik inside dont want run anny graphik on it
[15:22] <trnv> disk management, then shrink windows partition
[15:22] <trnv> safer
[15:23] <usr13> varunendra: from MS Windows
[15:23] <varunendra> joshu, joshu the /etc/rc.local is guaranteed to 'Initiate' the script, never tried the lightdm method and don't even know about it :)
[15:23] <usr13> varunendra: Wait.... What do you mean "if it is the other OS"?
[15:24] <S-1438> I created a "logical" partition with "mini-tool partition wizard" and installed Ubuntu but it would boot to Ubuntu. It acted as if it wasn;t there.
[15:24] <usr13> varunendra: Oh wait, that's someone else's question.  Sorry, wasn't paying attention.
[15:24] <varunendra> usr13, yeah.
[15:24] <tom_o> ads
[15:25] <varunendra> :)
[15:25] <wiak> bo
[15:26] <deltadown> this didn't help is there a command to run this without any graphik or some thing?
[15:26] <S-1438> varunendra, I created a "logical" partition with "mini-tool partition wizard" and installed Ubuntu but it would boot to Ubuntu. It acted as if it wasn;t there.
[15:26] <ShotokanZH> hi all
[15:26] <usr13> S-1438: It's best to let Ubuntu's installer create it's own partition.  (Just leave empty space, start the install process and let the Ubuntu Installer's partition manager (gparted), create it's own partition(s).)
[15:26] <ShotokanZH> i've a problem with the grub installation on an ASUS k55vd
[15:26] <varunendra> S-1438, so you've got Ubuntu installed and it doesn't let you boot windows anymore? Please elaborate your problem if I'm misunderstanding.
[15:26] <ShotokanZH> it seems that the bios automatically bypasses it, booting windows only
[15:27] <ShotokanZH> (even if grub is installed in /dev/sda!)
[15:27] <varunendra> S-1438, what isn't there?
[15:27] <wiak> try choose ubuntu from the boot device in bios ShotokanZH
[15:28] <raub> varunendra: I wonder if his grub is setup to not bother offering a menu
[15:29] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i'll try now
[15:29] <ShotokanZH> rebootin'
[15:29] <wiak> you can try using the grub-customizer on a live cd to install grub correctly, ubuntu seems to have a problem installing grub on drive
[15:29] <varunendra> raub, that's what I'm trying to confirm. Shouldn't happen normally though.
[15:29] <usr13> S-1438: You may need to tell us again what the problem is.  Tell it differently, with a bit more detail, so that we can understand better.
[15:30] <S-1438> varunendra, I created a "logical" partition with "mini-tool partition wizard" and installed Ubuntu but it wouldn't boot to Ubuntu. The partition with Ubuntu didn't appear on the "boot List" so it couldn't boot to Ubuntu  It would only boot to windows. the partition existed but the PC wouldn't boot from that partition.
[15:30] <wiak> ShotokanZH: didnt work?
[15:31] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i could only choose which drive to boot
[15:31] <ShotokanZH> no options at all to select a partition
[15:31] <varunendra> S-1438, Did the installation of Ubuntu finish properly? Is it windows 8 ?
[15:31] <usr13> S-1438:  First: It's best to let Ubuntu's installer create it's own partition.  (Just leave empty space, start the install process and let the Ubuntu Installer's partition manager (gparted), create it's own partition(s).)  Second:  You need to let the grub boot loader write to the MBR of the master Hard Drive, (if you don't, it more-than-likely won't boot to Ubuntu.)
[15:32] <wiak> ShotokanZH: did you turn off secure boot?
[15:32] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i did
[15:32] <wiak> hmm, the way i fix the same problem was to install (x)ubuntu on a external (SSD) drive :p
[15:33] <usr13> S-1438: And, you need more than one partitions.  One for swap and at least one more to actually install on. (I use three.  One for swap, one for /  and one more LARGE one for /home/
[15:33] <ShotokanZH> wiak, well that sucks lol that's not a solution dude xD
[15:33] <wiak> i think it has something to do with GPT, boot loader not installing correctly and windows 8
[15:34] <ShotokanZH> wiak, strange thing is that i installed win8+kubuntu in other 3 pcs
[15:34] <ShotokanZH> neither of 'em has that problem
[15:34] <usr13> S-1438: You might just do the install over.  Delete the logical partition you created, (leaving just empty space), and then run the install.  It will detect the empty space and partition and install on it.  (By the way; How much space did you set asside for the Ubuntu install?)
[15:34] <wiak> those pc didnt hav efi i bet
[15:34] <wiak> :P
[15:34] <S-1438> usr13, that would be the best way to go but the installer doesn't indicate which partition is for which operating system. It lets me chose the size of each partition but it doesn't tell me which is which.
[15:34] <ShotokanZH> wiak, every single one with efi
[15:35] <varunendra> wiak, usr13 it can be any of the cases, both are common - the UEFI thing as well as the grub installing on the usb instead of the HDD.
[15:35] <wiak> did they have GPT drives?
[15:35] <usr13> S-1438: Yes it does.  It *asks*  if you want to use a partition for swap or / or /home/ etc.
[15:35] <ShotokanZH> varunendra, the uefi is installed in the hdd, i'm sure about that
[15:35] <ShotokanZH> sorry
[15:36] <ShotokanZH> the grub is installed in the hdd
[15:36] <S-1438> usr13, so "home" is for the Ubuntu partition?
[15:36] <usr13> S-1438: "home" is for personal files.   / is for system files.
[15:36] <joti234> hi fren, i got my ubuntu corrupted after i compiled kernel then i had grub rescue problem i formatted the partitions using live ubuntu usb then i tried to install lilo too but still i can install i tried to install windows too its saying required drive partition missing i realised that i formatted restore partition so what what can i do now
[15:36] <usr13> S-1438: How much space did you set asside?
[15:37] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i even tried with easybcd
[15:37] <ShotokanZH> not working |:
[15:37] <wiak> i think the issue is GPT
[15:37] <wiak> ShotokanZH: did the other pcs have GPT drives?
[15:38] <wiak> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[15:38] <varunendra> S-1438, Did you enter the manual partitioning mode? (the "Try Something else" option). It only shows the generic names of the partitions if I remember correctly. The best way to identify the target partition is to leave it as empty space, so you can distinguish it from the FAT and NTFS partitions.
[15:38] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i don't remember, my home pc uses a corsair force 3 ssd
[15:38] <S-1438> usr13, I stopped the install process at the point where it wanted me to decide the size of the partitions until I could get an answer to my question but to answer yours, I wanted about 25GB for Ubuntu.
[15:38] <joti234> hi fren, i got my ubuntu corrupted after i compiled kernel then i had grub rescue problem i formatted the partitions using live ubuntu usb then i tried to install lilo too but still i cant install i tried to install windows too its saying required drive partition missing i realised that i formatted restore partition so what what can i do now
[15:39] <JY1> Hello,guys.
[15:39] <ShotokanZH> wiak, this laptop uses a 224gb corsair force gs
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> joti234: did you make backups of your restore partition?
[15:39] <usr13> S-1438: How much RAM do you have in this system?
[15:39] <joti234> actionparnsip no
[15:39] <S-1438> usr13, 6GB
[15:40] <joti234> what does that partition contain
[15:40] <varunendra> ShotokanZH, sorry I wasn't referring to you, it was about S-1438 's issue...
[15:40] <usr13> S-1438: OK. With 25G, I'd do it something like this:  First Partition:  6G swap   Second Partition: 24G (the rest) for /
[15:41] <usr13> S-1438: Two partitions, one for swap and the rest for   /
[15:41] <joti234> ActionParsnip : no i didnt what does that partition contain
[15:41] <S-1438> varunendra, I looked at the maual partition mode but didn't screw around with it too much. I am not sure of the settings to use so I left it alone rather than turn my PC in a paper weight
[15:42] <varunendra> S-1438, can you repartition from within windows? Just leave a 25 GB empty space after shrinking other partitions. It will be easy to identify during Ubuntu installation.
[15:42] <usr13> S-1438: ( /   is the root directories, all other directories (including "home") will reside witin the root partition.)
[15:42] <usr13> S-1438: You can go with the auto partitioning mode.  That is ok too.
[15:42] <Guest11872> my mouse stop working randomly and start again after a few seconds
[15:43] <usr13> S-1438: Correction: ( /   is the root directory, all other directories (including "home") will reside witin the root directory.)
[15:43]  * wiak slaps usr13 around a bit with a large trout
[15:43] <usr13> wiak: Have a suggestion?
[15:44] <S-1438> usr13. the auto partition is preferable to me. I will just have to cross my fingers an hope that it picks the correct partition for the correct operating system. thanks guys. Have a good one.
[15:44] <usr13> (corrections welcome)
[15:44] <wiak> try using easeus parition master in windows, resize..
[15:44] <varunendra> S-1438, unless you are going to use "Hibernation" in Ubuntu, 1 to 2 GB swap is normally good. 6GB is not necessary. But if you do plan to use Hibernate, keep it slightly above 6GB (the amount of your RAM).
[15:45] <hotdogggg> Guys, my lightdm is creating a login loop..
[15:45] <usr13> varunendra: You missed him.  But rather than go through that, why not just set asside enough just in case>>>
[15:45] <wiak> hotdogggg: hmm trow lightdm a hotdog, and it will  stop
[15:45] <wiak> :P
[15:45] <usr13> hotdogggg: Did you login to tty6 ?
[15:46] <usr13> hotdogggg Ctrl-Alt-F6 Login as same user. See if you see any errors.  If not: tail -f /var/log/syslog  #Leave it running,  Alt-Right-Arrow, (or Ctrl-Alt-F7) Attempt to login again.  Ctrl-Alt-F6 (back to tty6) and see if there is anything in syslog showing up about any sort of errors.  (Or just look at the file and see now;  cat /var/log/syslog )
[15:46] <varunendra> usr13, because I set up 4 gb thinking the same way, now it is mostly lying unused ;)
[15:46] <usr13> varunendra: How large is your HD?
[15:47] <wiak> larger than yours
[15:47] <wiak> :P
[15:47] <usr13> Probably ;)
[15:47] <varunendra> usr13, Hehe... 500 GB, of which at most 6-8 GB is vacant at any given time.... ;P
[15:47] <varunendra> lol !!
[15:49] <usr13> varunendra: Maybe [partially] unused but it's there if you need it.
[15:49] <datgame> i have a problem with my mouse,randomly stops
[15:49] <datgame> x
[15:50] <DCE25ESK> http://www.upload.ee/files/3467055/Thornhill_and_Palmer-_A_Natural_History_of_Rape.pdf.html
[15:50] <varunendra> usr13, I also never trust the autopartition mode of the installer. The forums are full of 'mistaken' partitioning tragedies of users due to that. :/
[15:51] <usr13> varunendra: That may be good advise.  I'll consider it.  Thanks for telling me.  Having said that, I've used it before and it seems to work just fine.  I *really* think the tragedies are [mostly] due to "operator-error".
[15:52] <DJones> DCE25ESK: What does that have to do with Ubuntu support
[15:52] <hotdogggg> usr13: Syslog shows no difference, anyother logs I should be looking?
[15:52] <usr13> varunendra: The bottom line is, that if you set asside free-space before you begin, the installer will use it.
[15:52] <deltadown> some one can help me to install "übuntu-12.04.2-server-i3862" from a usb stick crated with LiLi on a 32bit machine where currentlx win7 is running on witch works without problem ? after press Install Ubuntu server it stuck at "trying to enable the frame buffer..."   graphic card is NVIDIA geForce FX5700
[15:52] <usr13> hotdogggg: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:53] <deltadown> nomodeset checked dont help
[15:53] <varunendra> usr13, who knows. Another common error is the GRUB going to USB instead of HDD. Yeah, creating the partition beforehand is the best thing..
[15:53] <usr13> varunendra: "
[15:54] <usr13> varunendra: "creating *the* partion beforehand"? Not sure about that.  I do not know what creating the partition beforehand would have to do with grub being installed to the wrong drive.
[15:54] <Dell_the_Engie> hai
[15:54] <usr13> varunendra: ... they are two different processes.
[15:55] <varunendra> usr13, sorry, I meant creating the empty space beforehand, and it was about choosing the target partition, not about grub.
[15:55] <Dell_the_Engie> HELLO
[15:55] <Dell_the_Engie> :3
[15:55] <microtux> Hi
[15:56] <wiak> usr13:cant you choose the partition to install grub?
[15:56] <wiak> it is in the advanced settings in the installer
[15:56] <varunendra> deltadown, isn't the "server" installer text only ?
[15:56] <usr13> hotdogggg: ls -l .Xauthority  #Show us the output.
[15:56] <Dell_the_Engie> #Windows ftw
[15:56] <deltadown> i hoped so but this dont look like text only -.-
[15:57] <usr13> hotdogggg: ls -l .Xauthority  #Is it owned by the correct user?
[15:57] <varunendra> deltadown, did you check the integrity of the downloaded ISO ?
[15:57] <hotdogggg> usr13: root
[15:57] <usr13> wiak: Yes, you can choose a partition to install grub on, but the default is MBR
[15:57] <deltadown> no :D
[15:58] <usr13> hotdogggg: sudo chown user .Xauthority  #Where "user" is the actual user.
[15:58] <varunendra> wiak, grub should never be installed to a partition unless it is a GPT partitioning scheme.
[15:58] <Dell_the_Engie> i will brb
[15:58] <varunendra> md5sum | deltadown
[15:58] <varunendra> !md5sum | deltadown
[15:59] <usr13> hotdogggg: (That is the problem.  Somehow, .Xauthority has come to be owned by root. That shouldn't be.  I dono what you did, but maybe you shouldn't do what ever that was again ;)
[15:59] <OerHeks> usr13, seen that bug before, part from an upgrade cycle.
[15:59] <hotdogggg> usr13: TYVM!! That worked!
[16:00] <usr13> OerHeks: Really? Is it a distribution upgrade or jsut software updates?
[16:00] <varunendra> deltadown, if the source ISO is okay, you may try other boot options as well, especially "Check disc for defects" if that option is available on USB : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:00] <usr13> hotdogggg: Good.  Glad we figured it out.  (And sorry we didn't think of that one sooner.)
[16:00] <OerHeks> usr13, distro upgrade.
[16:00] <nashtrik> I run 11.10 with kernel upgraded to 3.2. My problem is with my DVD writer.Once I load a DVD of say pictures,upon removing and inserting another DVD,it does not read the contents of the new DVD...simply keeps on showing the folders and files of the previous disk like it has stored it in the buffer. I had to reboot the system to browse the contents of another disk. Any solutions..?
[16:00] <deltadown> is it possible disk is not ok and windows running?
[16:00] <usr13> OerHeks: Ok.. That is interesting.  Not sure why it would do that, but thanks for the info.  Will keep that in mind.
[16:01] <varunendra> deltadown, sorry didn't get you..
[16:03] <gagamel> hi, what's a good place to ask some questions about mail encryption and signing ?
[16:03] <gagamel> better take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[16:03] <deltadown> where i find correct sum? maybe i should download at other place than www.ubuntu.com/download ?
[16:04] <nashtrik> I run 11.10 with kernel upgraded to 3.2. My problem is with my DVD writer.Once I load a DVD of say pictures,upon removing and inserting another DVD,it does not read the contents of the new DVD...simply keeps on showing the folders and files of the previous disk like it has stored it in the buffer. I had to reboot the system to browse the contents of another disk. Any solutions..?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  for one: 11.10 is no longer supported, !eol, dead
[16:06] <varunendra> deltadown, it should be in a file on the ISO itself, as well as here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:06] <nashtrik> I know that friend Monkeydust
[16:06] <TandyUK> can anyone help me boot my system manually from /dev/sdb2, ignoring all the stupid uuid stuff in grubs menu
[16:07] <TandyUK> it keeps "finding and mounting /dev/sda2 on /"
[16:07] <varunendra> deltadown, if you choose to download again (not needed if md5sum matches), I'd strongly recommend downloading via torrent : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[16:07] <nashtrik> but browsing a dvd should be one of the basic requisites of  an OS,irrespective of the version and shd there be a way to rectify tha t problem
[16:10] <nashtrik> varunendra bhai,kahaan se baat kar rahe ho ?
[16:10] <varunendra> nashtrik, I think I heard of that kind of problem on 11.10 before, but the real problem is that you'll rarely find someone with an EOL version here, so can't hope for much help unless it is something trivial.
[16:10] <varunendra> nashtrik, Umm... UP east ! :D
[16:11] <nashtrik> ok...myself MP south...raining cats and dogs
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nashtrik: 11.10 is no longer supported in any way
[16:12] <varunendra> nashtrik, just finished here - heavy rain and thunder ;). Anyway, upgrading is really the best advice for you unless there is a good enough reason to stay with 11.10
[16:13] <nashtrik> so do I reckon my dear friend,my pal,mu crony..but there must be a way to repair the problem in the ubuntu repositories...like new drivers etc'
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> nashtrik: there are no repos for Oneiric, it is dead
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  the 11.10 repositories are no longer used, upgraded or maintained
[16:14] <SNAKE> how to change nickname pls i want commands ????????????????nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> !nick | SNAKE
[16:14] <SNAKE> ok
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: you may want to look at your keyboard too, the leys seem to stick
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> *keys
[16:15] <SNAKE> !nick aaaa
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  in short: this channel cannot help you do what you want
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: try:   /nick aaaa     as ubottu stated
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: it's there in the brackets
[16:15] <nashtrik> OK...seems as if I will have to upgrade ...which version do you suggest..the LTS 12.04 or the latest...Ok..got it monkeydust...!!!
[16:16] <SNAKE> aaaa Nickname is already in use.
[16:16] <SNAKE> -
[16:16] <Siebjee> Hi all, i'm wondering where ubuntu is storing its old installation if you have re-installed ubuntu but stated that you didn't want a format while leaving the old data intact
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> nashtrik: i suggest the LTS, it is supported til April 2017, Raring is only supported til January 2014
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> SNAKE  then try soething else, bluhbluh or blahblah or so
[16:16] <varunendra> nashtrik, I prefer LTS
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: then choose another.....
[16:16] <SNAKE> ok
[16:17] <SNAKE> i kill safe
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: why did you have to tell us it was aready in use, what does it achieve?
[16:17] <nashtrik> Thanks...so I was thinking...jus another suggestion...shd I upgrade via the software center or shd I go for backup,format and fresh installation..?
[16:18] <holstein> nashtrik: i like to see the live desktop. i also like fresh installs.. you "should" do what fits your needs
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  the latter is the fastest, easies and cleanest
[16:19] <silv3r_m00n> what is the difference between tightvncserver and vncserver ?
[16:19] <harper00> Anyone know why www.kdenlive.org is displaying as forbidden access?
[16:19] <holstein> silv3r_m00n: AFAIK, tight is a compression setup
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> harper00: try in #kde
[16:19] <OerHeks> nashtrik, it is your choice, but it would not hurt downloading a fresh iso and putting it on an usb-stick before upgrading
[16:20] <silv3r_m00n> holstein: when i typed man tightvncserver it shows me the man page for vncserver
[16:20] <harper00> thank you
[16:20] <holstein> silv3r_m00n: AFAIK its a vnc server with tight compression
[16:21] <nashtrik> thats ok Oerheks,but will a new installation automatically format my hard disk..? Will it give a chance to take a backup of pictures/documents...?
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  backup first, format happens during install
[16:22] <holstein> nashtrik: boot the live CD, as i asiad i like to test with, and backup what you like.. you can then install from that same live CD
[16:22] <OerHeks> nashtrik, no, new install does not give that option
[16:23] <Siebjee> Hi all, i'm wondering where ubuntu is storing its old installation if you have re-installed ubuntu but stated that you didn't want a format while leaving the old data intact.
[16:23] <nashtrik> Got your points Monkeydust,holstein and OerHeks....will do accordingly....thanks for the valuable advice
[16:24] <minple> ...
[16:25] <nashtrik> Yeah...actually I had something in mind of the like of a new version superimposed on the old one...keeping all the previous partitions,folders intact...I know I am talking Windowishly...but consider me as a newbie
[16:27] <Setsuna> hi there, I'm looking for a graphics designer for a work. If you are interested pm me. thanks :)
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !details | serafinm
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> oops
[16:31] <Kurlon> Afternoon all, got a weird issue that I'm not sure how to chase further.  Box as exim on it, I can see the process running but instead of showing as running under Debian-exim it just shows the owner as UID 110.  User Debian-exim has UID 110 in /etc/passwd so I'm not sure why that's not translating?
[16:32] <Kurlon> File permissions correctly show the uname instead of the UID
[16:32] <minple> chrome in ubuntu desktop automaticaly open new tab ! help me
[16:32] <Kurlon> Interestingly, dbus-daemon is showing as uid 104 rather than messagebus
[16:34] <Tikiko> can anyone help me?? im a bit noob in terms of linux, i cant seem to login my ubuntu box to my samba primary domain controller
[16:34] <raub> Tikiko: check logs and error messages
[16:34] <ikonia> Tikiko: tht's an interesting and potentially challanging setup
[16:35] <ikonia> Tikiko: how have you setup ubuntu to auth against the domain,
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> Kurlon  debian-exim does not exist in raring, what is the output of    cat /etc/issue ?
[16:35] <raub> If I disabled network-manager, shouldn't enabling vlan turnking be just a matter of enabling 8021q module and then editing /etc/network/interfaces? http://pastie.org/private/7f8ejijtr2gcnlhnlhqwcq
[16:35] <Kurlon> MonkeyDust: This is a ye-olde intrepid box I can't retire nor replace at the moment.
[16:35] <Tikiko> when i try to login it just says wrong password although im 100% sure its the right one
[16:35] <ikonia> Tikiko: how have you setup ubuntu to auth against the domain,
[16:35] <Tikiko> but i can easily login with my Win7 box
[16:36] <deltadown> some one can help me to install "übuntu-12.04.2-server-i3862" from a usb stick crated with LiLi on a 32bit machine where currentlx win7 is running on witch works without problem ? i changed vga=788 in vga=normal and added fb=false to preceed to keyboard and language selection
[16:36] <Tikiko> you wanna know like the smb.conf file?
[16:36] <deltadown> but there i stuck again
[16:36] <raub> ikonia: I was going to ask about that myself; the ubuntu box itself may not be authed
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> Kurlon  intrepid  8.10 is not supported here, it's !eol
[16:36] <ikonia> Tikiko: that won't authenticate ubuntu
[16:36] <ikonia> raub: it appears it's not
[16:36] <aenemic> Hey guys, I have been following this guide point by point and only boot into shell every time at the end GUI won´t load, any idea what I´m doing wrong? http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.es/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
[16:36] <pagec> ubuntu 12.04 trying to install smbldap, i download and ran the script smbldap-config.pl and i get this error: "Can't exec @PERL_CMD@ at ./smbldap-config.pl line 1." Perl is installed, anyone know what to do to fix it?
[16:37] <Tikiko> ikonia LDAP authenticates the samba users
[16:37] <ikonia> Tikiko: you're not making any sense
[16:37] <Tikiko> sorry english technical terms are hard for me
[16:38] <ikonia> Tikiko: I understand
[16:38] <Kurlon> MonkeyDust: I know it's eol, wasn't looking for version specific support, curious if others had seen the symptom set and had pointers on how to chase further.  I doubt it's something specific to 8.10.
[16:38] <faoiseamh> I strace'd a process using 100% cpu (vmware natd) and see it is out of file descriptors (EMFILE (Too many open files)). It is running as root and as root ulimit -n shows unlimited. What limit is it hitting?
[16:38] <Tikiko> ikonia i basically followed the ubuntu server guide
[16:38] <faoiseamh> ^ on 12.04
[16:38] <raub> Kurlon: I wonder if an exim channel would be more helpful
[16:39] <kapad> can i resize an extended partition without needing to unmount it?
[16:39] <thehumanelement> no
[16:39] <Kurlon> raub: Given the dbus process is showing the same lack of uid to uname mapping, I'm more thinking it's something in how PS works.
[16:39] <Pici> kapad: no
[16:39] <thehumanelement> kapad: ^
[16:39] <ikonia> Tikiko: are you tryig to auth connecting to a share, or logging into ubuntu
[16:39] <kapad> damn... thanks
[16:39] <thehumanelement> you can't resize a FILESYSTEM without unmounting it first
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Kurlon  what raub says: 65+ people in the #exim channel
[16:39] <thehumanelement> technically you could make the PARTITION bigger (but probably smaller would be a bad idea) with the FILESYSTEM mounted still but it would be a bit silly
[16:40] <Tikiko> ikonia the closest explanation i can find is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MWBhlaLIxQ <-- but i need to login with a ubuntu box
[16:40] <kgwgk> hello
[16:40] <pagec> That would depend on your filesystm
[16:40] <raub> kapad: most filesystems 9ext, msdos, etc) get excited when you try to size down
[16:40] <pagec> some do and some do not support online resizes
[16:40] <ikonia> Tikiko: I'm not watching a youtube video to explain samba
[16:40] <ikonia> sorry
[16:41] <faoiseamh> I strace'd a process using 100% cpu (vmware natd) and see it is out of file descriptors (EMFILE (Too many open files)). It is running as root and as root ulimit -n shows unlimited. What limit is it hitting? This is on ubuntu 12.04
[16:41] <Tikiko> ikonia can i pm you?
[16:42] <tom_o> someone please help me
[16:42] <ikonia> Tikiko: can you not use the channel ?
[16:42] <Pici> tom_o: with?
[16:42] <ikonia> faoiseamh: kernel limit ?
[16:42] <ikonia> faoiseamh: the linux equivilent of nflocks
[16:42] <tom_o> an hour ago, some tell me some tips
[16:43] <faoiseamh> ikonia: i did an lsof -p <pid taht is limited> | wc -l and only saw 1033 open files
[16:43] <tom_o> to change ownership with "sudo chown -R tom_o:tom_o  ~/.wine"
[16:43] <tom_o> i want to change it back but i dont know how to
[16:43] <kapad> @raub I have a extended partition, with 2 ext4 partitions. I want to delete one of them and size down the extended partition to use in another partition
[16:43] <Pici> tom_o: Back to what?
[16:43] <tom_o> back to default
[16:43] <ikonia> faoiseamh: you need to look at the system, not the user
[16:44] <TandyUK> tom_o: the same way you changed it, but with the user/group you want to change it back to
[16:44] <TandyUK> there is no magic "undo"
[16:44] <tom_o> what i should type?
[16:44] <Pici> tom_o: The default should be your username.
[16:44] <faoiseamh> ikonia: look at in terms of open files or setting the limit? lsof -n | wc -l returns ~16500
[16:45] <TandyUK> whats the correct way to install a new grub on my new set of disks, and make them bootable?
[16:45] <tom_o> what should i type on terminal
[16:45] <faoiseamh> taht 1033 looks suspcisiouly like the 1024 + a few other things lsof is picking up
[16:45] <TandyUK> currently cloning from sdb to sdh
[16:45] <ikonia> faoiseamh: I suspect you're hitting a system/kernel limit rather than looking at ulimit
[16:45] <daivyk> hi, I am trying to configure eclipse with ubuntu but no success so far, the problem is that I need to add a path to ld_library_path, but it is always showing blank, so I searched for and created a my.conf inside the /etc/ld.so.conf, but eclipse does not find either, so I have create a SH file with "export ld_library_path=.../path/" and execute eclipse with this SH and it works, anyone know how to configure ubuntu properly to find ld_libr
[16:45] <Pici> tom_o: What is your user's username?
[16:46] <Kurlon> Ok, issue is with ps, by default it's column width isn't wide enough to show those names so it reverts to UID instead.  Tweak the column width via args and viola, proper unames shown and I can stop freaking out that something's fishy on that box.
[16:46] <tom_o> tom_o
[16:46] <faoiseamh> ikonia: any tips on diagnosing what limit I'm hitting?
[16:46] <TandyUK> tom_o: "chown -R tom_o:tom_o /path"
[16:46] <Kurlon> http://compgroups.net/comp.os.linux.misc/ps-lists-user-as-uid-instead-of-username/490780 for those curious
[16:46] <ikonia> faoiseamh: look at the kernel settings in sysctl, look at your ram usage, make sure you're not hitting the limit as you're out of ram
[16:47] <tom_o> the tip that those guy give me is to change wine ownership right ?
[16:47] <Nahledge> After this update my mouse is gone. Unless im in firefox or chrome. Anywhere else the cursor does not exist, Why?
[16:48] <Nahledge> Actually, my cursor seems to be gone completely unless its over an image or a link, or a peice of text, or a blank field, anywhere dynamic basically.
[16:48] <tom_o> cannot accesss no such file or directory
[16:48] <Nahledge> Nowhere static can my cursor exist.
[16:48] <Nahledge> Why?
[16:48] <faoiseamh> ikonia: plenty of resources available(60gb+ ram free), I'll check other settings in sysctl though. Here's a snippet of strace - http://pastebin.com/r8APxiY5
[16:48] <TandyUK> tom_o: http://linux.die.net/man/1/chown
[16:48] <joshu> does anyone know how to pass lightdm username and password to a script?
[16:49] <ikonia> faoiseamh: http://cherry.world.edoors.com/CPZKoGkpxfbQ
[16:49] <raub> kapad: if the partition is in use, you will need to boot single user mode
[16:49] <pantalaimon> Why is mono on Ubuntu so ancient? (2.10 <-> 3.2)
[16:49] <Nahledge> After this update my mouse is gone. Unless im in firefox or chrome. Anywhere else the cursor does not exist, Why?
[16:49] <Nahledge> Actually, my cursor seems to be gone completely unless its over an image or a link, or a peice of text, or a blank field, anywhere dynamic basically.
[16:49] <Nahledge> After this update my mouse is gone. Unless im in firefox or chrome. Anywhere else the cursor does not exist, Why?
[16:49] <kapad> @raub whats single user mode?
[16:49] <raub> If those partitions are the only extended ones, you will need to unmount, resize, and put it back
[16:49] <TandyUK> Nahledge: we heard you the first no, no idea
[16:49] <raub> kapad: I think they can it repair mode or whatever
[16:50] <kapad> oh.. like root mode?
[16:50] <raub> kapad: it would be a bit easier using lvm, but then you would need to make sure you do not get extended partitions unless you need them
[16:51] <raub> kapad: kinda of. It starts with the bare minimum
[16:51] <faoiseamh> ikonia: systemwide fd limit is 6514245, don't think that's it
[16:51] <kapad> @raub problem is that my root partition is one among the 2 extended partitions. I need to boot from usb..
[16:51] <raub> as few services running as possible
[16:51] <kapad> dont have one handy
[16:51] <ikonia> faoiseamh: may need to check a little more, it's just the fd limit
[16:51] <raub> kapad: that is a major bummer
[16:52] <kapad> lol.. yeah... hoping there was a work around..
[16:52] <kapad> cool.. thanks.
[16:52] <faoiseamh> ikonia: there are tons of sysctl settings, i'm looking at ones w/ limit or max in the name but i'm just shooting in the dark now
[16:53] <raub> kapad: desktop or server?
[16:53] <ikonia> faoiseamh: you just checked file description, check max open files and file locks (sometimes called nflocks)
[16:54] <kapad> desktop..
[16:54] <kapad> laptop actually
[16:55] <kapad> no cd drive also
[16:55] <raub> My suggestion for your partitions:
[16:55] <raub> The rest in the second partition inside a lvm
[16:55] <datgame> do you guys have problems with skype?
[16:56] <kapad> @raub - message got cut
[16:56] <raub> Which part?
[16:56] <kapad> My suggestion for your partitions: <cut>  The rest in the second partition inside a lvm
[16:56] <raub> Anywhoo, first partition (primary) is for /boot
[16:56] <datgame> anyone have problems with skype?
[16:56] <raub> make it like 512Mb or 1GB
[16:56] <kapad> aah..
[16:57] <faoiseamh> ikonia: i cat'd /proc/<pid in question>/limits and i see the max open files is limited to 1024/4096 - any idea why that would be when I have the aforementioned settings?
[16:57] <raub> then create a second primary prtition and put lvm in it
[16:57] <raub> If laptop, encrypting it is not a bad idea either
[16:57] <kapad> @raub - I need to dual boot windows for games. For some reason the thing needs to be the first partition..
[16:57] <raub> Aha
[16:57] <kapad> and after this I ran out of the limit on 4 partitions.
[16:57] <raub> The point still remains:
[16:57] <raub> windows, /boot, /lvm
[16:57] <kapad> encrypting sounds good.. what about speed?
[16:58] <raub> because inside the lvm you can make partitions as you wish
[16:58] <raub> and you can add an external drive to the volume group, move stuff out, and resize as needed live
[16:58] <kapad> its currently like /ROOT(for windows to work) /win /extended(/boot /home) /common
[16:59] <kapad> I couldn't think of anything better when installing.. and now need to resize.
[17:00] <kapad> which is a pain in the a**
[17:00] <Prometheian> How do I make Ubuntu's terminal use bash instead of whatever it's using now.
[17:00] <Prometheian> As default
[17:00] <raub> yep
[17:00] <raub> Prometheian: in your user's terminal?
[17:00] <raub> or for each script?
[17:01] <Prometheian> When I start Terminal, yes. Just as default so when I open the application it starts on bash.
[17:01] <raub> Edit /etc/passwd's entry for that user
[17:01] <Pici> Prometheian: it should use bash by default.
[17:01] <raub> Be nice to that file though
[17:02] <Rubeus> agreed
[17:02] <raub> Pici: fgrep username /etc/passwd should answer that
[17:02] <Pici> Prometheian, raub: using chsh is certainly easier/better if the user in question doesn't have access to change /etc/passwd (and perhaps even if they do have access)
[17:02] <faoiseamh> can I change limits for a running process?
[17:02] <Prometheian> I'm fairly confident about which user I'm on, but what's the command to check which profile I'm currently using?
[17:03] <Pici> Prometheian: echo $SHELL
[17:03] <raub> or env
[17:03] <Prometheian> Okay, here's the weird thing. It says I'm using Bash but I have to type in bash before I can use any of my aliases.
[17:03] <datgame> anyone having problems with skype 4.2?
[17:04] <raub> Prometheian: maybe it did not load your profile?
[17:04] <Lancerb1> Each time I run a Windows program through Wine in Kubuntu, I get a "Program Error" window telling me that winemenubuilder.exe has encountered a serious problem.
[17:04] <n00dlep0rn> datgame: Are you aware all Skype data is recorded by the NSA? I recommend Jitsi as an alternative
[17:04] <raub> How do I install a package from the cd instead of network?
[17:04] <Lancerb1> I'm not sure if it's an Ubuntu problem, or a Wine problem.
[17:04] <Prometheian> Oh yeah, I forgot. When ever I start Ubuntu I get a fuckload of errors.
[17:05] <Prometheian> Sorry, yeah, that'd explain it. :)
[17:05] <datgame> n00dlep0rn, no i will try it that
[17:15] <Liam88> dd
[17:18] <sharpshooter> hi guys i got a big problem here I'm using ubuntu 13.04 in my hp 550 laptop the problem is that the os is freezing after a while,
[17:20] <levo[420]> is there any french to english and vice versa dictionary for ubuntu?
[17:21] <euxneks> Hi, I'd like to disable trackpoint (little red nubby thing in the keyboard) on my lenovo W520 - is there an easy GUI way to do it?
[17:25] <antifa> hi
[17:25] <antifa> need some help pls
[17:25] <rohff> hi
[17:26] <iceroot> !ask | antifa
[17:26] <iceroot> antifa: and we like it to keep politic out of this channel, so it would be nice if you could change your nick
[17:26] <rohff> test
[17:27] <antifa> well I have a laptop with ubuntu 12.04 witch is conected trugh a wifi router to a xp desktop, how can I find out the ip of my xp desktop
[17:27] <antifa> ?
[17:27] <euxneks> holy crap I didn't even know what antifa meant..
[17:27] <euxneks> wow
[17:27] <vader_> :)
[17:27] <iceroot> vader_: use the command "ipconfig" on the windows machine
[17:28] <aaron> can i communicate with different services in jitsi?
[17:28] <Guest31189> for example aol with hotmail?
[17:28] <vader_> and if I want to do it from my ubuntu machine ? :)
[17:28] <iceroot> vader_: then you need the machine name
[17:29] <vader_> smbtree ?
[17:29] <ciprian> ?
[17:29] <iceroot> vader_: you could also try arp, smb tools and so on
[17:29] <iceroot> vader_: but that will only work when you already have a connection to that machine
[17:30] <ciprian> Wow ... nice
[17:30] <ciprian> It's the first time when i'm on irc
[17:30] <levo[420]> welcome to IRC ciprian
[17:30] <ciprian> Thanks
[17:30] <vader_> I see
[17:31] <ciprian> It's compicated because it's only console [ irssi ]
[17:31] <ciprian> But i will learn
[17:31] <Umair> can I use debian package in python anyhow? how can I import it?
[17:31] <iceroot> Umair: #debian #python
[17:31] <auronandace> ciprian: you can get a gui client (xchat comes to mind)
[17:32] <Umair> iceroot: using ubuntu :)
[17:32] <iceroot> Umair: doesnt matter, its related to python and debian
[17:32] <Umair> and no response from #python :(
[17:32] <auronandace> Umair: never mix different distro packages
[17:33] <Umair> auronandace: poppler-utils is a debian package which I can't find for python so no option
[17:34] <DeonP> hi i'm in trouble lol
[17:34] <auronandace> !info poppler-utils | Umair
[17:34] <DeonP> upgraded from 12.03 to 13.04 and only afterwords found out that /var directory gets wiped
[17:35] <DeonP> 12.04lte
[17:35] <Whitor> hi. I'm running 12.04 and I'm having a problem with unity. (I think) Where the menu bar is supposed to be is the drop shadow of the menu border... but the menu itself appears at the bottom of the screen. BUT, the buttons act like that are at the top of the screen?!?! is there any way to somehow reset this?
[17:36] <Umair> auronandace: ?
[17:36] <Whitor> Further... if I hover over the icons on the unity panel, the entire panel goes black
[17:37] <kostkon> Whitor, could you post a screenshot? it will be helpful for anyone who wishes to help you.
[17:37] <jsonperl> quick question. "ss -s" output for socket information: http://pastebin.com/4tbVzG9v what the heck is the asterisk line?
[17:38] <Whitor> kostkon, screenshots appear entirely black !
[17:38] <Whitor> I just tried
[17:38] <dgriffi> regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/1204990, am I going to have to rebuild rsyslog-relp if I want to get it installed?
[17:38] <kostkon> Whitor, hmm. with the screenshot utility?
[17:38] <calwig> where could someone inquire about recovering data on a miniSD chip?
[17:38] <Whitor> kostkon, yes, with prtsc button
[17:39] <Whitor> kostkon, it looks like compiz might not be running
[17:39] <wormwood> Greetings all, any netfilter / iptables gurus around?
[17:40] <kostkon> Whitor, try again without pressing prtscr, just run the screenshot utility (search for "screenshot" in the dash") and press the Take screenshot button
[17:42] <DeonP> can anyone tell me why a dist upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 deletes the contents of /var directory i lost all my websites
[17:43] <napsc> wormwood:  explain what you're trying to accomplish, someone will answer if they can.  if not, you can try networking chat room
[17:45] <raedov> hello guys , is there Is there anyway to remember layout for each window here in Lubuntu , like "Keyboard Layout Handler" in pclinuxos lxde , pic for tool : http://i.imagebanana.com/img/u7e3d14q/Screenshotfrom20130725203312.png
[17:45] <shanen> Any ideas what would cause SSH connections from an external IP to work initially and then lock up with this message following shortly after? Write failed: Broken pipe
[17:46] <shanen> SSH connections from the internal network work fine
[17:46] <Artemis3> DeonP, i don't think you are supposed to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04, you have to go to 12.10 first. Only lts to lts is supported besides regular (every 6 month) version.
[17:46] <holstein> shanen: maybe your isp blocks it
[17:46] <Whitor> kostkon, http://i.imgur.com/jN1PGN4.jpg  shows the menu issue...
[17:47] <DeonP> damn i wish i had a warning about /var folder being deleted i could have aborted
[17:47] <shanen> holstein: I'd expect it to not work at all if that was the case. It does connect initially and lets me execute commands for 1-10 seconds
[17:47] <holstein> shanen: i would try not having expectations, and check with the ISP
[17:47] <kostkon> Whiskey, that's interesting
[17:47] <kostkon> oops
[17:47] <RonniSkansing> Hi, i have downloaded the an ubuntu iso and want to make a bootable USB. I have done this a couple times before on Windows, Ubuntu and Mac. This time im having a problem. If i run usb-creator-gtk via. the gui, i get a crash report (sometimes), if i fire it from termnial -> http://pastebin.com/eD7a7eZP <- Im on Ubuntu 12.04
[17:47] <holstein> shanen: its also just one suggestion.. you can wait on another volunteer suggestion
[17:47] <shanen> holstein: We are on an unrestricted commercial account
[17:47] <Whitor> :)
[17:47] <DeonP> my fault i should have made a backup
[17:48] <kostkon> Whitor, that's interesting*
[17:48] <shanen> holstein: Yeah, I appreciate the idea
[17:48] <Whitor> kostkon, I couldn't get the unitu menu issue, since my mouse needs to be over the icons for that issue to be shown
[17:49] <kostkon> Whitor, have you by any chance enabled any extra compiz plugins?
[17:49] <Whitor> kostkon, nope
[17:49] <Artemis3> DeonP, incidentally, dist-upgrade is also not supported either, only use update manager or do-release-upgrade
[17:49] <kostkon> Whitor, the fast and easy solution would be to reset your unity
[17:49] <DeonP> i booted from dvd and selected upgrade
[17:50] <Whitor> kostkon, do you know an easy way to do this?
[17:50] <kostkon> Whitor, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[17:50] <DeonP> update manager showed 12.10 upgrade available, i took a shortcur now paying the price
[17:50] <kostkon> Whitor, ;)
[17:50] <Whitor> I am backed up just in case
[17:50] <kostkon> Whitor, sorry that's for 12.10+
[17:50] <kostkon> Whitor, are you on 12.04?
[17:50] <Artemis3> DeonP, yes, you have to upgrade to 12.10 first, can't take any shortcuts, only lts to lts is allowed (every 2 years).
[17:52] <Guest63432> Found a bug in the "stable" (but of course nothing's perfect) Libreoffice PPA. Unity quicklist shows label empty and not "New Document"
[17:52] <DeonP> Artemis3, yes i'm basically fooked
[17:52] <krz> set record      =       "imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Imap]/Sent"
[17:52] <krz> whops
[17:52] <DJones> Guest63432: You'll have to report that to the ppa maintainer
[17:52] <kostkon> Whitor, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html  you don't need to give the reset icons cmd, just the unity --reset one.
[17:52] <Guest63432> DJones: Thanks, but how do I reach him?
[17:52] <RonniSkansing> Hi, i have downloaded the an ubuntu iso and want to make a bootable USB. I have done this a couple times before on Windows, Ubuntu and Mac. This time im having a problem. If i run usb-creator-gtk via. the gui, i get a crash report (sometimes), if i fire it from termnial -> http://pastebin.com/eD7a7eZP <- Im on Ubuntu 13.04
[17:52] <Artemis3> DeonP, you might try your luck with data recovering apps
[17:53] <Whitor> kostkon, heh... that explains why it wasn't working!
[17:53] <DJones> Guest63432: It should tell you on the web page that you added the ppa from
[17:53] <DeonP> i have, no luck, said inodes available but did not recover
[17:53] <Artemis3> DeonP, hmm well, as they say, backup first...
[17:53] <kostkon> Whitor, better go into tty, press ctrl+alt+f6 for example, give unity-reset then ctrl+alt+f7 to come back
[17:53] <Guest63432> DJones: OK, so for https://launchpad.net/~ricotz since no email address is provided, the hunt begins. Have any idea where I should start?
[17:54] <kostkon> Whitor, unity --reset*
[17:54] <DeonP> noob error lol, i have 90% backed up, lost 10 days work
[17:54] <Artemis3> DeonP, just 10 days to recover is better than start from scratch :)
[17:54] <Guest63432> DJones: Never mind. Found out how.
[17:55] <Whitor> kostkon, the menu still appears at the bottom !
[17:55] <Artemis3> DeonP, also, consider sticking to LTS for production
[17:56] <DeonP> Artemis3, will do from now on, i had big problems on 12.04 networking. had to start network-manager manually al the time
[17:56] <DeonP> after one of the updates
[17:56] <Guest63432> DJones: Thanks.
[17:56] <DJones> Guest63432: You're welcome
[17:56] <kostkon> Whitor, damn
[17:57] <DeonP> one of the 12.04 updates messed up loads of folder privileges , was chaos
[17:57] <Whitor> kostkon, my sentiments exactly
[17:57] <Artemis3> DeonP, you could override network manager by populating /etc/network/interfaces, quite recommended for a server
[17:57] <kostkon> Whitor, try resetting compiz too. scroll down for the instruction on the page i gave you
[17:57] <Whitor> Is there any sort of system restore utility available for ubuntu ?
[17:57] <DeonP> i dont use it as a server just dev testing
[17:57] <kostkon> instructions*
[17:58] <Whitor> I hate to say it... but something like the windows system restore utility ?
[17:58] <sam113101> Guys, will ubuntu use Qt exclusively in the future?
[17:58] <pdkl> i just reinstalled ubuntu (very old) to a new version (13.04) .. why is syslog always empty?
[17:58] <checoimg> RonniSkansing : try the KDE Usb Creator
[17:58] <Artemis3> sam113101, no
[17:58] <RonniSkansing> Thanks checoimg, i will check it out now
[17:58] <sam113101> Artemis3: why not? they're using Qt and qml for their mobile stuff, might as well use only Qt, no?
[17:59] <Whitor> kostkon, will do, thanks
[17:59] <RonniSkansing> Thanks checoimg, that will fix it
[17:59] <DeonP> installer should warn which folders are going to be deleted and give the option to abort
[18:00] <Artemis3> someday when btrfs becomes widespread, we will probably have snapshots to go back to...
[18:01] <checoimg> RonniSkansing : I'm glad ot be of help. :)
[18:01] <TandyUK> help guys... just done a hard drive sawp and now grub cant get its config right
[18:01] <TandyUK> grub-install is creating grub.cfg with the line "root='(hd5,msdos2)'
[18:02] <TandyUK> which should be hd0,...
[18:02] <TandyUK> currently im having to manually edit the grub config at boot time
[18:02] <TandyUK> or i just get a black screen indefinitely
[18:03] <TandyUK> while i can fix it manually, i need to know where to change that so that the next kernel update doesnt leave the machine trying (and failing) to boot from the wrong disk
[18:03] <Artemis3> TandyUK, did you check /etc/default/grub ?
[18:04] <TandyUK> yup, no mention of that setting
[18:04] <TandyUK> unless theres other stuff thats not documentedi n there
[18:04] <Artemis3> TandyUK, perhaps its using UUID? (preferred)
[18:05] <Artemis3> TandyUK, oh yes, you can add more options there :)
[18:05] <TandyUK> ok hold on your missing the point just like #grub lmao
[18:05] <TandyUK>        set root='(hd5,msdos2)'
[18:05] <TandyUK>         search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9d1716bc-b69d-4cc9-afb5-31cccf66e840
[18:05] <TandyUK>         linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-43-generic root=UUID=9d1716bc-b69d-4cc9-afb5-31cccf66e840 ro   quiet splash $vt_handoff
[18:06] <TandyUK> ONLY the set root= ;line is wrong
[18:06] <TandyUK> which apparantly shouldnt matter, but without manually editing the entry at boot time, i cannot boot period
[18:06] <TandyUK> obviously that file is auto generated, so i need to know how to make it use hd0 instead of hd5
[18:07] <TandyUK> grub-mkdevicemap also gets it wrong, and having created my own, correct device.map, and specifying that to grub-install, it STILL gets it wrong
[18:08] <Artemis3> TandyUK, i suppose it might be a grub-install parameter, to pick the mbr or partition to install grub into?
[18:08] <TandyUK> that has no effect on it
[18:08] <TandyUK> its getting the order wrong
[18:09] <TandyUK> at boot time, hd0 is my sata 3 raid controller
[18:09] <TandyUK> but once booted, sdf is that disk
[18:09] <Rarrikins> TandyUK: Can you use partition UUIDs?
[18:10] <TandyUK> sd[a-e] are members of a mdadm raid array, so i really dont want to be messing with them at all
[18:10] <TandyUK> Rarrikins: that IS using uuids??
[18:11] <TandyUK> i guess grub is trying to look for hd5, partition2, which doesnt exist
[18:11] <TandyUK> and taking forever to give up
[18:11] <TandyUK> as the grub guys say "it shoudlnt matter if that line is wrong"
[18:11] <TandyUK> but when it is wrong, I cant boot, so go figure
[18:12] <TandyUK> im happy to manually fix grub.cfg
[18:12] <TandyUK> but that just makes me worry what will happen next time theres a kernel update and an auto update
[18:12] <Artemis3> TandyUK, there is probably a nice parameter you can add to default/grub for that
[18:12] <Joshun> hi
[18:12] <TandyUK> Artemis3: any clues where i might find this stuff documented then?
[18:13] <Joshun> is it possible to map alt gr to alt in ubuntu?
[18:13] <Joshun> this keyboard (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/pc-accessories/keyboards/keyboards/logik-lk212r-wireless-keyboard-red-13828364-pdt.html) rather shockingly doesn't even have one! -_-
[18:14] <Joshun> I of course did not buy the keyboard in the first place
[18:14] <TandyUK> Joshun: take it back, demand a replacement on the grounds its not fit for purpose
[18:14] <xiudo> looks like the apple wifi keybaord clone
[18:14] <fanys> Hello everybody
[18:14] <xiudo> fanys: hello
[18:15] <checoimg> fanys : Hello
[18:15] <Joshun> TandyUK - yeah pretty dumb considering even how many windows apps need the alt key for shortcuts
[18:15] <fanys> can you tell me where I can translate the new shutdown dialog (that was introduced in Raring)?
[18:15] <fanys> in czech language it is still in English
[18:16] <QTPieMan> is it ok to manually download "gksudo" in 13.04?
[18:16] <Joshun> the keyboard could at least have some fn code to enable alt
[18:16] <Artemis3> TandyUK, https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#root
[18:16] <Pici> fanys: I know its a small channel, but #ubuntu-translators might be able to help you find that.
[18:16] <QTPieMan> why gksudo is removed in 13.04?
[18:16] <kostkon> !find gksudo raring
[18:17] <kostkon> !find gksu raring
[18:17] <QTPieMan> kostkon, i know that  -_-
[18:17] <TandyUK> Artemis3: i mean the setting to change it via /etc/default/grub
[18:17] <fanys> yeah, I know about it, but there are only 14 people, so I decided to try it here first, thanks anyway
[18:17] <kostkon> QTPieMan, it's in the repos. so just install it, why not
[18:18] <QTPieMan> kostkon, looks like i also have to install  libgksu2-0, libgksu2-dev
[18:19] <kostkon> QTPieMan, ok, I assume you have read this already → http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04/284717
[18:20] <Joshun> TandyUK - I have at last found a fix :) dpkg-reconfigure keyboatd-configuration, mapped altgr to alt
[18:20] <QTPieMan> kostkon, actually i have read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/290810/how-to-add-gksudo-or-what-to-use-instead-in-ubuntu-13-04
[18:21] <kostkon> QTPieMan, ok
[18:22] <QTPieMan> hmm
[18:23] <danlee> i found that the recent update of openjdk-6 has problem when using with Netbeans
[18:23] <PiffPaff> Hi, do you know when I will be able to mount a TCG OPAL / EDrive encrypted SSD under ubuntu? These drives come up more frequently like Crucials/Microns M500 and the chip in the SSD does the en/decryption. "New" is the standard these drives follow nowadays called TCG Opal.
[18:24] <QTPieMan> is ubuntu 13.10 really coming with chromium instead of firefox?
[18:24] <DJones> QTPieMan: Probably best asking in #ubuntu+1 where they discuss the testing
[18:24] <QTPieMan> DJones, ok
[18:25] <xiudo> Hello #ubuntu  Does the Ubuntu:Edge going to work with VerizonUSA's network?
[18:25] <DJones> !phone | xiudo
[18:26] <checoimg> fanys : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-cs
[18:29] <mbeierl> I have a 6gb laptop running 13.04.   proc/meminfo shows 5.8g total, 3.3g free, .14g cached.  Where is my other 2g being used?  What stat reports where that memory has gone?
[18:30] <Artemis3> not used, thats normal. start opening apps and it will get used.
[18:30] <kostkon> !ram | mbeierl
[18:31] <mbeierl> kostkon, already read. that.  The info there does not add up to what meminfo says.
[18:31] <martinrame> Does anyone installed ubuntu on an "IBM System x3400 M3" ??
[18:31] <mbeierl> kostkon, and if you read what I posted, I'm already taking the cache into account.
[18:32] <kostkon> mbeierl, right
[18:32] <wasanzy> hi
[18:32] <mbeierl> Artemis3, No.  It's not being reported as free.  The numbers are not adding up.
[18:32] <Artemis3> mbeierl, with the first number you should be fine, its seeing the whole thing, will use it when it needs
[18:32] <wasanzy> does ubuntu have openssl or something else?
[18:33] <Pici> mbeierl: Does your video card use shared memory?
[18:33] <rypervenche> wasanzy: openssl is installed, yes. What are you looking for?
[18:33] <mbeierl> Pici.  good question.  How do I tell that these days? :)
[18:33] <wasanzy> the devel version of openssl
[18:34] <Pici> mbeierl: There should be something about it in the BIOS, or perhaps on the manufacturer's website.
[18:35] <mbeierl> Pici, BIOS, no, not that I can find.  Would that get consumed out of the pool claimed as physical memory after the OS sees the total?  Would the nvidia kernel mod claim it?
[18:36] <miebster_atwork_> I have a VM and I'm trying to make it so within the VM I can mount/unmount without sodo, I've put this into my /etc/sudoers.d "vat vat-vb = NOPASSWD: /bin/mount, /bin/umount" but It still says I need root to mount?
[18:36] <wasanzy> the devel version of openssl
[18:36] <rypervenche> v libssl-dev | wasanzy
[18:36] <Pici> mbeierl: I believe it happens before the kernel starts, although I could be wrong
[18:36] <rypervenche> ,v libssl-dev | wasanzy
[18:37] <mbeierl> Ah.  I forgot - I've got a radeon on this machine.  The radeon driver is not really that large, so probably not reported there.  That is a good line of investigation though.
[18:39] <davidfetter_disq> hello
[18:40] <davidfetter_disq> i'm looking for a SQLite JDBC driver. is that packaged in any of the usual repos? ubuntu 12.04 lts, fwiw
[18:42] <wasanzy> am getting Error 404 when I run  apt-get install libssl-dev
[18:44] <trism> wasanzy: have you run: sudo apt-get update; recently? there may be a newer version superceding the version in your package list
[18:45] <fanys> can you give me an opinion about this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1203576 - it is in my head for really long time and I've finally posted it as a bug. If you are for fixing it, please add yourself to affect list
[18:46] <fanys> that is one of features that'll make Ubuntu easier to use for newbies
[18:46] <wasanzy> trism: I did even before running the install
[18:47] <wasanzy> and that also failed with the same error
[18:50] <guzzlefry> hey folks
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> fanys, My opinion is that wine is for drinking, in the nicest way possible. ;)
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> I just run W8 if I want a windows app
[18:50] <mafsi> wilee-nilee: thumbs up!
[18:50] <Ponch0> I forgot my login username on my dual boot, is there a way I can recover that, I'
[18:50] <fanys> :D, yeah, but in this case, it is far better imo than opening exe file in Nautilus by default
[18:51] <guzzlefry> I'm having some issues with mounting SFTP via GNOME3's Places menu.  The connection is prone to timing out, but I can't seem to get it to reset. It just errors out over and over.
[18:51] <Ponch0> I'm pretty sure I remember the password
[18:51] <trism> wasanzy: which ubuntu version is this?
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> fanys, Not sure why you are opening a .exe wine and play on linux seem to work fine.
[18:52] <ggherdov> Hello. I am burning a Ubuntu Raring ISO image (on ubuntu raring, lol), and I get asked the question: "d'you wanna create a disc from the content of the image OR with the image file inside? "
[18:52] <ggherdov> Let aside that the developer writing that text wasn't really insipired that day, but... what should I chose? My goal: to get a bootable CD, as 99.999% of the people getting asked that question I guess)
[18:52] <wasanzy> Ubuntu 10.10
[18:52] <Ponch0> Does anyone know if theres a way to recover my login username?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> ggherdov, burn as an image no file
[18:52] <trism> wasanzy: that would be why, 10.10 is no longer supported
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Yes hold on
[18:53] <fanys> yes, but wine is the most generic way to open exe files
[18:53] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: gracias
[18:53] <ggherdov> wilee-nilee: ok, the former then
[18:53] <fanys> many users around me(newbies, first time Ubuntu useres) are very confused when they see exe file opened in archive manager
[18:54] <Brigad> someones for help me to config vsftpd i try n try n try!!
[18:54] <wasanzy> ok
[18:54] <ggherdov> wilee-nilee: option (1): burn as file. option (2): burn contents.
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, This is not a recover but resetting for the password I believe it says setting a user as well, may not be exactly what you need. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[18:54] <fanys> *and I've commuted Nautilus with File-Roller in my message
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> ggherdov, ISO's burn as images
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Here is another that seems closer. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tag/recover-ubuntu-username-and-password
[18:56] <QTPieMan> !edge
[18:56] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: thank you, you're an awesome person
[18:57] <sam113101> what's the process name of the dash?
[18:58] <iLogical> why did ubuntuforums.org use proprietary forum software in first place with so many FOSSes for that matter of high quality and even superior, it seems counter-intuitive to me since it's a open source distro to do such a thing, not mention the obvious security concerns of using proprietary software
[18:59] <iLogical> an*
[18:59] <iLogical> to*
[18:59] <sam113101> what's the process name of the dash?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Heh, on a good day thanks. ;)
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, App search and other options file access...etc
[19:00] <Terabyte> hi
[19:00] <Terabyte> is there a way to see all available versions of a package in apt-get?
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Doh process name sorry.
[19:01] <Terabyte> say "apt-get install apachemq" but I want a specific version, what can I do to see it.
[19:01] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: is it an executable by itself or is it part of something bigger?
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Basically it is the gnome 2 menu cluster all in one, sort of.
[19:02] <Artemis3> iLogical, tell them in #ubuntuforums :)
[19:02] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: but how do I go about debugging it?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> iLogical, You don't have to use proprietary if you do not want to, honestly your opinion is only valid in your world.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> even i it seems others agree, if you look closely the schema that leads us there in individual.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> is*
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, What is the problem?
[19:04] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1204589
[19:05] <sam113101> I believe it's only happening to me, though
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Hmm, not sure I use the gnome-shell, I used unity for a long time but I turn off all that stuff, I will look on the web for de-bugging though
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, What release are you running?
[19:07] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: 13.04
[19:07] <sam113101> last version
[19:07] <sam113101> last/latest
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, You might try a reset of unity I see no debug, there may be one just not finding it. problem with unity is that it is a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3 so a reset at ties seems to be the answer for some things.
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> not sure if a reset of the de will change the dash but a good place to start probably
[19:12] <sam113101> well, I reinstalled ubuntu yesterday, the bug still happened before I reinstalled it, so I doubt resetting unity will fix it
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, I had installs that needed a reset from minute one, doubting does not give you an answer
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> I doubt I will be a rocket scientist but one never knows ;)
[19:14] <sam113101> weird that you had to do that
[19:14] <sam113101> well, I will try
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Just making a point resetting will not hurt anything.
[19:15] <sam113101> another question, where does the dash get its $PATH?
[19:15] <sam113101> I want to add $HOME/.bin to it
[19:16] <k-joseph> hi every one, i read about using a hotspot to share internet, i created one but did'nt succeed in sharing the internet, still i want to use the same thing to share files as an adoc does in windows, can some one point me to a good tutorial or direct me, i will be glad if helped
[19:16] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: The first link work great: I went into recovery and since I remember my password and not my username, I typed in the password and then typed "ls /home" which gave me my user name :)
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Cool, I wondered if actually recovering it was possible.
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> !hotspot
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> !info hotspot
[19:21] <Ponch0> yup so was I, I was hoping for the best since this is  dual boot and it's a pain reinstalling
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> oh well
[19:22] <mwmnj> Hi all, I am trying to run ubuntu 12.04 in virtualbox on mac os x
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj, Why? ;)
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj, Just ribbing you tell the problem.
[19:24] <mwmnj> wilee-nilee: Actually may have solved it, just coming in the irc room must have helped :p
[19:24] <mwmnj> I'll let you know
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj, Cool, enjoy.
[19:25] <googlenohelp> Whenever I boot my laptop up I have to run: sudo modprobe -r b43 bcma; sudo modprobe b43.  in order to use wireless. Any way to automate this?
[19:28] <genii> ! boot | googlenohelp - put the commands in /etc/rc.local
[19:32] <pkkm> where can I find repos for Ubuntu 8.10? the official ones return 404 when I try to `apt-get update'.
[19:32] <xangua> !eol | pkkm
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> pkkm, 8.10 is end of life what is your need for it?
[19:33] <pkkm> I need Ubuntu from 6.06 to 8.10 for running legacy software (in a VM).
[19:34] <pkkm> aren't there any mirrors which haven't deleted the repos? maybe some archival site?
[19:34] <ratek__1> which legacy software :-/
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> pkkm, You will get no support in general here but. http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[19:35] <pkkm> ratek__1: VLM, a Lisp Machine emulator.
[19:35] <pkkm> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> pkkm, Hope that is enough, not sure what else there is.
[19:36] <googlenohelp> ubottu: even though I need root access to run modprobe?
[19:37] <Targeter> Hi, I currently have a 5.1 surround sound setup and was wondering what 5.1 cards out there are very linux friendly.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | googlenohelp have you looked here
[19:37] <googlenohelp> wilee-nilee: yes
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> googlenohelp, Cool that is about my limit on broadcom, never have used it, there are probably other wiki's maybe associated with you actual computer.
[19:38] <pkkm> wilee-nilee: works well, thanks.
[19:38] <Ampelbein> googlenohelp: /etc/rc.local will be run as root so you don't need sudo when putting commands in there.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> pkkm, Cool.
[19:39] <googlenohelp> wilee-nilee: Need to unset bcma and b43 mods then load b43 in order for wireless nic to be picked up. I can run just fine from terminal after boot, but I wanted to automate the running of the two commands with escalated privileges on boot
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> ah I see
[19:40] <CalvinnHobbes> I have a question about ssh keys: if I have multiple computers is it smarter to have a different key for each computer or to have one key that copy to each computer?
[19:41] <googlenohelp> Ampelbein: when I put `modprobe -r b43 bcma \n modprobe b43` in rc.local it doesn't bring up the interface but when I run those two in a shell it works
[19:41] <googlenohelp> CalvinnHobbes: just use one public rsa key
[19:42] <Ampelbein> googlenohelp: You have to put the commands before the "exit 0" line. Did you do that?
[19:42] <CalvinnHobbes> does the title at the end of the key do anything? I.e. ssh-rsa {long string of random} computer-name-or-something
[19:43] <googlenohelp> Ampelbein: yes.
[19:43] <Ampelbein> googlenohelp: Do you see in dmesg that the modules gets unloaded and reloaded? Is /etc/rc.local set +x?
[19:44] <googlenohelp> CalvinnHobbes: you shouldn't ever have to "read" your key. You can scp your key to the server into a file called temp or whatever you wanna call it. Then login to the server and run `cat temp >> .ssh/authorized_keys`
[19:45] <Ampelbein> CalvinnHobbes: or use ssh-copy-id to add your key to the remote host.
[19:46] <googlenohelp> Ampelbein: yeah, rc.local has the right permissions. And dmesg shows that it loaded the module correctly
[19:47] <dominic__> i click on the download for jolicloud install on the website then i dont have the programme to install it
[19:47] <tenguix> anybody know about a good java support channel
[19:47] <Pici> tenguix: ##java
[19:47] <tenguix> well, more like java guru-help
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Isn't jolicloud a ISO?
[19:48] <dominic__> i dont know
[19:48] <Pici> tenguix: assuming you mean programming, ##java (but you'll need to be registered/identified with freenode to join)
[19:48] <Ampelbein> googlenohelp: Then I don't know any further. In the future, if you have the chance: Avoid broadcom.
[19:48] <tenguix> Pici, its invite only. I need to register right
[19:48] <Pici> !register | tenguix yep
[19:48] <dominic__> which programme is good for iso
[19:49] <sam113101> dominic__: dd
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Two downloads a windows exe or ISO, if you are running windows you would want ##windows.
[19:49] <dominic__> im on ubuntu
[19:49] <om26er> how do you extract .eml ?
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, An ISO can be put on a disc or usb, in a number of ways.
[19:50] <tenguix> cool, thanks guys
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, You running a wubi, otherwise you would know about an ISO I would think.
[19:50] <dominic__> it seems just a file to install
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> dominic_, http://www.jolicloud.com/jolios/download choose the appropriate download.
[19:51] <jsl> dominic> Do you want to burn the iso to a disc?
[19:51] <dominic__> it just a upgrade for my ubuntu
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Not a real upgrade
[19:52] <skulltip> dominic__ the latest unetbootin you can select which distro, it will download from the approrpriate mirror and put iso on usb. very easy to use
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Joli is an OS you have to install it.
[19:52] <skulltip> then boot from USB as live demo or install
[19:53] <dominic__> http://www.jolicloud.com/jolios/download
[19:53] <dominic__> JoliDE in Ubuntu
[19:53] <dominic__> what is JoliDE in Ubuntu
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, You seem quite confused nowhere does it say "JoliDE in Ubuntu" ubuntu and joli are separate operating systems.
[19:54] <xangua> 'JoliDE in Ubuntu' I don't see that specific option on that link dominic_ , but you can install joli as any other distro alongside ubuntu
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Joli is linux and it is a desktop, but not on top of the ubuntu base
[19:55] <skulltip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/jolicloud-your-new-favourite-ubuntu-de   - seems like an overlay
[19:55] <Anaxandridas> So, thanks to the help of #ubuntu, yesterday I installed a linux OS for the first time on my computer. So today, I'd like for you guys to tell me some cool things that Ubuntu does that Windows does not, so I can go try out those things, and do cool stuff with my computer I've never previously been able to.
[19:55] <Anaxandridas> Any ideas?
[19:55] <dominic__> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/jolicloud-de-gets-updated
[19:56] <skulltip> if you are so inclined..   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jolicloud-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update      to me seems like it could be added headache
[19:57] <henkpoley> Anaxandridas: most of the "never previously been able to" on Linux has to do with being able to modify the source code. Are you a programmer ?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | dominic_
[19:58] <Anaxandridas> No, henkpoley, but I am a retired guy with tons of time on his hands. So I have no problem learning new stuff.
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> dominic_, That is from a PPA so not fully supported here, but you may get some help anyway.
[19:59] <Raziel2p> anyone know how to install the 'z' shell functionality which takes you to recently used directories?
[19:59] <Raziel2p> it's impossible to google
[19:59] <skulltip> Anaxandridas - what linux doesn't have to do is monthly defrags, run Norton or other antispyware..
[19:59] <henkpoley> Anaxandridas: open source is mostly about finding your itch (some kind of odd, buggy or missing behavior), and scratching it ;)
[19:59] <Pici> Raziel2p: you mean zsh?
[19:59] <Raziel2p> Pici, I don't think so
[19:59] <henkpoley> skulltip: you can run e4defrag now :P
[19:59] <skulltip> any benefit to it henkpoley
[20:00] <Raziel2p> like I said it's impossible to google 'z' so I don't really know what it is apart from what I've seen in screencasts
[20:00] <Targeter> Does anyone know of any Linux friendly 5.1 sounds cards? Currently using an old Creative X-Fi
[20:00] <Pici> Raziel2p: What functionality does it have?
[20:00] <dominic__> i did the ppa
[20:00] <Raziel2p> Pici, it lets you easily switch to recently visited directories
[20:00] <Raziel2p> as far as I can tell
[20:00] <sirspazzolot> in a google result I found a forums result that looks like it will REALLY help my problem. unfortunately forums redirect to that alert page. please tell me there's some mirror or alternate url I can access to view this topic
[20:01] <jsl> wher are all the source code in ubunutu are stored?
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> henkpoley, I think e4defrag is just a gui fsck defragg is not really a correct use, even though the creator claims it is without any actual open source access.
[20:02] <Pici> Raziel2p: You can use 'cd -' to go to the previous path, but I don't know of anything that goes further than that.  If its truely a feature of bash, you could try asking in #bash
[20:02] <Raziel2p> Pici, thanks, didn't know about cd - though I managed to find it https://github.com/rupa/z
[20:03] <jsl> Are there some programmer?
[20:03] <Pici> jsl: The Ubuntu source is stored in the repositories.
[20:04] <Pici> jsl: If you have a specific question, just ask. There are many programmers here.
[20:04] <p0wn3d> what repositories do you add after you setup your ubuntu box?
[20:05] <henkpoley> wilee-nilee: e4defrag is not a 'graphical user interface', and it's not a frontend to fsck. Also, source: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/fs/ext2/e2fsprogs.git/tree/misc/e4defrag.c
[20:05] <jsl> Pici> Thank you i am learning how to program in c.
[20:05] <sirspazzolot> p0wn3d: the included ones are likely sufficient for anything you need
[20:05] <ozzloy> my laptop speakers recently stopped outputting sound.  i've searched the web and tried reinstalling alsa to no avail.  sound does work through headphones.  can i get some help on this?
[20:05] <Pici> jsl: The ##C channel might be a good place to start then.
[20:05] <sirspazzolot> I take it there isn't currently a way to view any topics on ubuntuforums.org at all?
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> henkpoley, Right it is a command line but I think it is just another fsck format
[20:06] <jsl> Pici>thank you
[20:06] <henkpoley> wilee-nilee: what does that even mean?
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> !fsck
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> henkpoley, fsck is the linux version of a defragg
[20:07] <Pici> wilee-nilee: not really....
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> Pici, I know but for a user who never heard of it I generalize.
[20:07] <genii> More like the equivalent of chkdsk
[20:07] <Pici> wilee-nilee: henkpoley seems to know about it though.
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> true, you are all welcome to detail its use. ;)
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> Pici, They know about that app which seems to be another fsck basically but has not heard of fsck, you are welcome to tell them rather than criticize me, when I am trying to at the least point out what that app seems to be.
[20:09] <henkpoley> wilee-nilee: read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Operating-Systems-3rd-Edition/dp/0136006639
[20:09] <Pici> wilee-nilee: I think you've misread.
[20:10] <henkpoley> wilee-nilee: The finish this exercise: http://www.cs.vu.nl/~bs/exercise2.php
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> henkpoley, Sorry I'm in a grad program studying other things honestly I don't care. ;)
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> Pici, I made no empirical statements I through my wording said I think this is what it is.
[20:11] <Pici> Lets move on then :)
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> Pici, I'm very careful how I make claims, but I am human.
[20:12] <henkpoley> Raziel2p: Would this help you in finding `z` http://www.ubuntugeek.com/what-package-is-that-file-in.html
[20:12] <Ken_P> I am trying to load U12.04 through VBox on Mac OS 10.8.4.  Received this error:
[20:12] <Ken_P> Failed to open a session for the virtual machine CS Version 1.
[20:12] <Ken_P> Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR_SUPLIB_WORLD_WRITABLE).
[20:12] <Ken_P> Result Code: NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
[20:12] <Ken_P> Component: Console
[20:12] <Ken_P> Interface: IConsole {db7ab4ca-2a3f-4183-9243-c1208da92392}
[20:12] <FloodBot1> Ken_P: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <fredefl> I'm currently running the latest, I belive, Linux kernel (3.11) from the saucy kernel mainline builds and I do not, for some reasons, have any other cpu governors than 'powersave' and 'performance'. On my 3.5.x kernel I have plenty more.
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> pastebin | Ken_P
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | Ken_P
[20:13] <Raziel2p> henkpoley, maybe, but honestly it looks like 'z' isn't even part of a package
[20:13] <Ken_P> Sorry, I am still learning IRC etiquette
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> henkpoley, This is what I would read if actually interested. http://ols.fedoraproject.org/OLS/Reprints-2007/sato-Reprint.pdf
[20:14] <Ken_P> Any ideas on why I wouldn't be able to load the 12.04 ISO?
[20:14] <kurtwp> when you right mouse click on a file you have an option to "Move to Trash"  how can I add Delete to that same menu
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> Ken_P, You made a machine and attached the iso in the settings-storage?
[20:15] <Ken_P> Yes
[20:15] <henkpoley> Raziel2p: might have been an alias to something more complicated. I know there's pushd/popd for directory traversal
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> kurtwp, dconf-editor has  delete option
[20:16] <Raziel2p> henkpoley, I found it as a single .sh file in a github repo so I'm not sure
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> Ken_P, Not sure than, you doing this from the gui or a console?
[20:17] <Ken_P> GUI
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> Ken_P, If no one here chimes in you might try #vbox
[20:18] <Loshki> Ken_P: also, I see a lot of google hits for NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005), if that helps...
[20:18] <Ken_P> Thanks, I'll check out the Google hits and #vbox
[20:19] <MOUD> Hey all
[20:20] <MOUD> How can I install python-qt3 in Ubuntu 13.04 64bit? I can only install the doc files
[20:24] <lemans_>  Hi guys, I used the universal pendrive installer to download lubuntu onto a flashdrive. I am trying to get a laptop with windows vista currently on it to boot it, but while im at the boot manager, it doesn't recognize a that the bootable flashdrive is in I have looked around, and I'm sure I am over looking something. but just to be sure, do I need to download a laptop version or something?
[20:24] <want2learn> Greets. Would like to know what package is the 64bit equivalent of ia32-libs - for the purpose of installing a 64bit libssl3.so..
[20:24] <Ampelbein> MOUD: You can't. As far as I know qt3 is deprecated in raring.
[20:25] <MOUD> Ampelbein: I want to install Gerix but it says it needs qt3, how can I fix it then?
[20:26] <lemans_> also, I said lubuntu, I ment ubuntu.
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> lemans_, In the past when I tried that usb loader I found it to have contig fragging problems, not sure if that is your issue, you might try unetbootin and ru a sum check on the iso.
[20:27] <crazyeagle> how would I install a printer (Dell c1660w) that has no linux driver I already checked the openprinting. I do have windows drivers disc. I am using Ubuntu 12.04
[20:27] <Ampelbein> MOUD: Ask the authors to port it to qt4.
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> crazyeagle, YOU open the printer app and look for a driver?
[20:28] <crazyeagle> yes
[20:28] <crazyeagle> printing then go look for drivers tried all of them yet none worked
[20:28] <zengr> hello, I added a new repo in sources list, didn't add the key (i.e.: apt-key adv ..). I see an error in apt-get update but I am able to install stuff from the new repo. Is this key error a matter of concern? I know how to fix it, but I am curious to know if this can be a matter of concern later.
[20:28] <crazyeagle> any ideas wilee-nilee
[20:29] <MOUD> Ampelbein: I'll try sending an email, thanks for the help :)
[20:30] <henkpoley> crazyeagle: if you are lucky a CUPS description file is in the OS X driver
[20:31] <crazyeagle> join #ubuntu-la
[20:31] <_alpha_> hi all, I have 5.1 speakers but I only seem to be getting sound from the centre one.  5.1 is selected as the 'Mode' in sound settings
[20:31] <crazyeagle> ah so how would I do that?
[20:31] <henkpoley> crazyeagle: Description pages says: Printer languages supported :: GDI/Host-based, so just trying PostScript will not work sadly.
[20:31] <ViaNocturna85> really odd prob here...i can only open 1 app at a time, when i open others nothing happens, after i close the open app, all the unopened ones open
[20:32] <crazyeagle> henkpoley: so how would I check the osx driver
[20:32] <crazyeagle> i downloaded but get a dmg file
[20:33] <crazyeagle> henkpoley: can I open/decompress that somehow?
[20:35] <zengr> got a question about adding repos to ubnuntu
[20:35] <zengr> I added a new repo in sources list, didn't add the key (i.e.: apt-key adv ..). I see an error in apt-get update but I am able to install stuff from the new repo. Is this key error a matter of concern? I know how to fix it, but I am curious to know if this can be a matter of concern later.
[20:35] <Anaxandridas> Anyone have input on necessary security measures with Ubuntu? I just installed it yesterday, first time ever...
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> zengr, Add key with sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "key here"\
[20:36] <henkpoley> crazyeagle: at the moment I have no clue where the Dell printer drivers are stored at Apple.com
[20:36] <zengr> wilee-nilee: Yes, I understand how to fix it. But I wanted to know that why does it work even without adding the key? What can go wrong if I don't add it?
[20:37] <want2learn> how might I get the 64bit libssl3.so installed ? I have not been able to find what specific package "owns" it..
[20:37] <zykotic10> Anaxandridas: keep it up-to-date.  and don't run services you don't need.  that's pretty much the basics for unix-like systems ;)  enjoy.
[20:37] <crazyeagle> henkpoley: I do have the disc that has the OSx drivers
[20:38] <zykotic10> crazyeagle: ahhh, i doubt OSX drivers are gonna help on gnu/linux... just sayin'
[20:38] <crazyeagle> but how do I go from there? any howto's that you know of?
[20:38] <Ampelbein> want2learn: You could use packages.ubuntu.com to search for the file. In this case, you are most likely looking for libnss3.
[20:38] <crazyeagle> well jus' tryin'... otherwise have no printin'
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> zengr, THe key is basically you telling the computer yes I approve of this install, no key can bring up a unauthorized warning, and even cause dependencies problems, always add the key if available.
[20:39] <zengr> wilee-nilee: Got it, thanks!
[20:39] <henkpoley> crazyeagle: It looks like HBPLv1 of the Dell C1660w is not supported by any CUPS printer driver, so a simple definition file (from OS X or wherever) is not going to work, see: http://foo2hbpl.rkkda.com
[20:40] <want2learn> Ampelbein - thank you.
[20:40] <henkpoley> Was worth a try though :P
[20:41] <crazyeagle> henkpoley: TY 4 tryin'
[20:42] <henkpoley> crazyeagle: If you connect it to some windows or mac machine, you can probably make network printing to that machine work
[20:42] <raub> So the arcmsr kernel module is not enabled by default in 10.04 desktop. How can I force it not only be enabled (modprobe) but also start scanning for a controller?
[20:42] <raub> Without rebooting that is
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> raub, 10.04 the desktop is end of life.
[20:43] <raub> wilee-nilee: which is ok with me. I just need to it boot livecd and do a test that requires that kernel
[20:43] <crazyeagle> henkpoley: what about installing the driver in a vm within linux?
[20:44] <crazyeagle> I have a w7 vm in this box
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> raub, Cool.
[20:44] <raub> Do not want to install 10.04LTS server in machine if I can get away
[20:45] <henkpoley> crazyeagle: usb passing is notoriously finicky, but yeah, that ought to work
[20:47] <diamantis_> hello guys
[20:47] <reisio> 'lo
[20:47] <diamantis_> which channel can I join to get some graphics gard help ?
[20:48] <diamantis_> card*
[20:48] <diamantis_> something easy with the drivers
[20:48] <henkpoley> diamantis_: #xorg
[20:48] <reisio> diamantis_: for Ubuntu? This one
[20:48] <henkpoley> Though might be more developer oriented :P
[20:48] <diamantis_> for linux mint
[20:49] <henkpoley> diamantis_: also depends on the graphics card, there are specific channels
[20:49] <zykotic10> !mint | diamantis_
[20:50] <henkpoley> diamantis_: sorry to refer you to #xorg :P
[20:50] <diamantis_> I know Im not on mint support but since I didnt get any help there maybe a person more profficient on linux could help me here since this community is bigger
[20:51] <Ben64> diamantis_: well this channel is for ubuntu support only, sorry
[20:52] <zykotic10> diamantis_: perhaps that should let you about level of support you can expect from using these two distros.  support should be a consideration in what distro YOU use...
[20:52] <zykotic10> s/let/tell/
[20:53] <imark> diamantis_: in the future just say your using ubuntu, other wise you just get jumped up arsewipes who are completely unwilling to help
[20:53] <Ben64> imark: no
[20:53] <diamantis_> ok im sorry i thought linux enthousiasts care of support linux as a whole and not separate distros, i mean there isnt any profit anyway to be protected here
[20:54] <Ben64> diamantis_: people here know ubuntu, for them to try to help with mint wouldn't work
[20:54] <imark> helping with graphics cards will be identical on ubuntu and mint
[20:54] <zykotic10> diamantis_: ##linux does... another alternative for you.
[20:54] <Ben64> imark: no its not
[20:54] <imark> yes it is
[20:54] <henkpoley> diamantis_: http://bash.org/?152037
[20:54] <diamantis_> I thought that mint is ubuntu with some more programs anyway....
[20:55] <Ben64> mint uses different repositories and different software, and thats why it is unsupported
[20:55] <gordonjcp> diamantis_: mint isn't very much like Ubuntu, and everything is different
[20:55] <gordonjcp> diamantis_: all the packages are built differently, pretty much
[20:56] <sirspazzolot> any system76 users here able to guess what the two unrecognized partitions that came on my drive are?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> henkpoley, Heh, ramblings of a moron.
[20:56] <reisio> sirspazzolot: unrecognized by what?
[20:56] <henkpoley> wilee-nilee: the link is pretty old, early 2000s
[20:57] <reisio> like a fine wine
[20:57] <sirspazzolot> reisio: any partition tool ever
[20:57] <gordonjcp> diamantis_: superficially, Mint is like Ubuntu with a clunky obsolescent desktop manager crufted on, but internally they're actually quite different
[20:57] <Ben64> !details | sirspazzolot
[20:57] <sirspazzolot> unrecognized fs type
[20:58] <sirspazzolot> ubottu: well, I gave you all the details there are. the problem is independent of ubuntu, but since system76 laptops ship with ubuntu I figured maybe somebody here would know
[20:58] <sirspazzolot> bahaha
[20:58] <sirspazzolot> I feeel dumb
[20:58] <reisio> sirspazzolot: maybe if you showed some output, we could be more specific
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> sirspazzolot, Probably a recover and firmware, I would email them or ask on them on the UF when it is up
[20:58] <Ben64> sirspazzolot: you didn't even come close to all details, all you've said so far is two unknown partitions, we know nothing else
[20:59] <sirspazzolot> on ubuntu or gentoo, in parted, fdisk, gparted, and a windows 8 installer, these two partitions have an unknown fs type. that is literally all I've got
[20:59] <Rarrikins> sirspazzolot: You can run strings on the partition devices and see if you see anything interesting.
[21:00] <Ben64> sirspazzolot: post a screenshot from gparted, some output from something, give us something to work with, come on
[21:02] <Epx998> Dont suppose there is a ubuntu distro for old commodore 128 computers is there?
[21:02] <sasha|> yop, just wondering, if I save a Dyn-DNS'ed ssh host as a bookmark
[21:02] <sirspazzolot> Ben64: fine http://i.imgur.com/7A52f8x.jpg check it out no new information
[21:02] <reisio> Epx998: if there is it's not official
[21:02] <sasha|> and I connecting to it through LAN, will it be recognized as an external or internal connection?
[21:02] <Epx998> worked brought me his old 128d
[21:02] <Ben64> sirspazzolot: why do you have a window in the way
[21:03] <reisio> Ben64: heh
[21:03] <sirspazzolot> Ben64: that window is the details window it is not in the way. underneath lies mountpoint and size
[21:03] <reisio> sirspazzolot: the first is probably for gpt/uefi nonsense
[21:03] <Ampelbein> sirspazzolot: What's the "Id" displayed when running fdisk -l?
[21:03] <sasha|> I'm asking because I don't know whether I should do a single bookmark for the ssh server, or two - one for local and one for external. the thing is that I'm using 2 factor authentication that only asks for a verification code from outside
[21:04] <calwig> does anyone know any good SNMP tools?
[21:04] <sirspazzolot> partition 1 does not start on a physical sector boundary
[21:04] <zykotic10> reisio: don't lump gpt in with uefi ;)  nothing wrong with gpt, infact it's a lot better then MSDOS partition tables.
[21:04] <sirspazzolot> cough Ampelbein
[21:05] <Ampelbein> sirspazzolot: Please paste the complete output of "fdisk -l"
[21:05] <reisio> zykotic10: hi
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> lol
[21:05] <Ampelbein> sirspazzolot: Use paste.ubuntu.com or some other paste service
[21:06] <sirspazzolot> Ampelbein: http://bpaste.net/show/LuX6WNFJnLUkcn3hFaVU/
[21:06] <jefimenko> how can you replace the default terminal in 13.04
[21:06] <Ben64> sirspazzolot: well you see where it says bios_grub, that means its for grub
[21:06] <jefimenko> i found a gross solution online that asks you to remove gnome-terminal and replace  /usr/bin/gnome-terminal with a link to the new terminal
[21:07] <sirspazzolot> Ben64: curious that bios can read it but lin00ks can't
[21:07] <Ben64> sirspazzolot: could you say that again in english
[21:07] <sirspazzolot> it is curious that bios can read that partition while linux cannot
[21:07] <zykotic10> jefimenko: try "sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator" and see if that works
[21:07] <Ampelbein> sirspazzolot: ok, now paste the output of "sudo parted -l /dev/sdb" (As advised in the top of what fdisk told you)
[21:07] <napsc> sirspazzolot: I have a system 76... mine was the same way.  they use gpt
[21:07] <sirspazzolot> sorry for getting snippy, I've had a long day
[21:08] <Ben64> sirspazzolot: its a 1MB partition because gpt doesn't have as much free space for grub to reside in, its not a real filesystem
[21:08] <want2learn> could anyone tell me how I can resolve a dependency on "libtiff.so.3", on 12.04 64bit? I have libtiff4 installed but it doesn't appear to be/contain the necessary lib.
[21:08] <sirspazzolot> napsc: haha there we go, that's what I wanted. did you remove them?
[21:08] <Ben64> you won't be able to boot if you remove that
[21:10] <sirspazzolot> Ben64: err, sorry, I'm reformatting the whole drive
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> want2learn, Might be something here while you wait. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=libtiff.so.3
[21:10] <napsc> i've reloaded a few times (playing around).... uefi is disabled from factory...
[21:10] <sirspazzolot> Ben64: I don't deal with BIOSy stuff much, I didn't want to clean wipe in cse I'd render my firmware unusable or something
[21:11] <sirspazzolot> would it be safe to wipe this drive, switch to mbr, and reinstall OSes?
[21:11] <Ben64> why? gpt is superior
[21:11] <sirspazzolot> Ben64: windows can't boot from gpt without uefi, which I don't have, but I need windows for work
[21:12] <want2learn> wilee-nilee - thanks.
[21:12] <sirspazzolot> Ben64: I have a second hard drive in this computer that windows doesn't want to install to, only guess I have is that since the ssd I'm using now is gpt and the primary boot device, windows is scared of it
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[21:12] <Oberon4278> So when I run apt-get update, I'm getting a bunch of 404s.  Have things changed recently in a way that I have to account for?
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> Oberon4278, What is your release?
[21:12] <napsc> i used gdisk... and remade it... but I dont run windows so i could
[21:12] <Ben64> sirspazzolot: you could remove the ssd, install windows to the hard drive, then reconnect ssd and problem solved
[21:12] <Oberon4278> I... don't know.
[21:12] <napsc> use gpt
[21:13] <sirspazzolot> neither drive is >2tb and I don't often run into issues with the 4 primary partition limit, so I personally have no practical gripes with mbr
[21:13] <Oberon4278> How do I find out what my release is?
[21:13] <sirspazzolot> Ben64: it's a laptop, I can't take the ssd out easily
[21:13] <napsc> and non-uefi
[21:13] <streulma> Oberon4278: do you see something like archive.ubuntu.com ?
[21:13] <Ben64> sirspazzolot: but yeah you can format it and it'll be fine
[21:13] <zykotic10> Oberon4278: "lsb_release -sc" in a terminal should show you or use -a for more info.
[21:13] <streulma> Oberon4278: if you see something else, then your mirror is offline...
[21:13] <sirspazzolot> cool. thanks. that's what I'll start on
[21:13] <Oberon4278> streulma Yes, I see a bunch of those.
[21:14] <Oberon4278> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty InRelease
[21:14] <Oberon4278> looks like it's natty
[21:14] <sirspazzolot> in short, why else would gpt trump mbr? larger fs size, no limit on number of partitions, what else
[21:14] <Ben64> yep
[21:14] <streulma> natty, hmm, not supported anymore I think...
[21:14] <Oberon4278> I should check Linode and see if there's a kernel upgrade, actually.
[21:14] <zykotic10> sirspazzolot: ;) that isn't enough?  lol
[21:14] <Oberon4278> makes sense
[21:14] <Ben64> Oberon4278: no, you need to upgrade to a supported release
[21:14] <Oberon4278> okay
[21:14] <sirspazzolot> zykotic10: haha it would be if I had issues with either of those limitations on mbr
[21:15] <streulma> Oberon4278: natty is not a LTS release, you should upgrade
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Oberon4278 follow this upgrade schema
[21:15] <Oberon4278> What does LTS mean?
[21:15] <Oberon4278> thanks wilee-nilee
[21:15] <Ben64> Long Term Support
[21:15] <Oberon4278> ah ok
[21:15] <sirspazzolot> it's nice that it supports those features but I have no practical reasons to use it and I have practical reasons to use mbr
[21:15] <Oberon4278> awesome, you guys are great :)
[21:15] <jefimenko> zykotic10: that doesn't seem to work
[21:15] <zykotic10> sirspazzolot: the 3TB limit was why i initually started using gpt (i have no uefi devices), but i like the no primary limit even more
[21:15] <streulma> ;)
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Oberon4278, An upgrade will be a bit timely is all.
[21:16] <jefimenko> zykotic10: maybe it's a configuration in unity
[21:16] <afflicto> Hey all. I just installed the AMD drivers on a fresh ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64 install. I can't seem to enable all my 3 monitors. The other ones are just gray? :S
[21:16] <Oberon4278> Heh.  Linode's info for this says "Ubuntu 11.04 LTS Disk Image."  Clearly that is out of date as well :)
[21:16] <Ben64> Oberon4278: it might be easier at this point to install fresh with 12.04 or 13.04 than to do two eol upgrades
[21:16] <jefimenko> zykotic10:  where it runs a specific cmd... one that points to /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[21:16] <Oberon4278> Ben64: That's exactly what I was thinking.
[21:16] <zykotic10> jefimenko: ya sorry, guess it's an ubuntu specific setting.  sorry for the bad info.
[21:16] <Oberon4278> I can just backup my stuff and wipe the server and reinstall.
[21:17] <Ben64> Oberon4278: i'd recommend 12.04, as its supported until 2015, 13.04 is newer, but you'll need to upgrade before January 2014
[21:17] <Oberon4278> Okay, that's what I'll do.
[21:18] <streulma> Ben64: is it not possible to do sed -i 's/natty/precise/g' in sources.list ?
[21:18] <Oberon4278> But, now for the question I actually came for.  I want to install a DBMS on my server but the company that releases it only has versions for AIX, HP/UX, OSX, VMS, RHEL, Solaris, SUSE, and Tru64.  Which of these will give me the least hassle when installing on Ubuntu?
[21:19] <streulma> Oberon4278: CentOS
[21:19] <streulma> oh ok
[21:20] <zykotic10> Oberon4278: i'd suggest using different software... if they don't have source, then i guess alien and the rh packages if the best suggestion.  but IMO if you are using alien, something is VERY wrong...
[21:22] <zykotic10> Oberon4278: fyi 11.04 was NOT an LTS release
[21:28] <feri> hello
[21:36] <streulma> hello feri
[21:39] <RobHaz> Hello
[21:39] <RobHaz> What kinds of srvers can i have?
[21:39] <RobHaz> Im having now, ssh, and samba + webserver
[21:40] <holstein> RobHaz: no one is in the buisness of dictation what services you can run on your machine, so its literally whatever you want to learn to setup
[21:40] <holstein> dicatating*
[21:40] <Oberon4278> zykotic10: Well, I could get the source code on my machine since I'm an employee.
[21:42] <QTPieMan> why seamonkey-browser is removed from repos?
[21:42] <zykotic10> Oberon4278: building from source is orders of magnitude, better then using packages from a foriegn OS or even gnu/linux distro... they're not the same, and i don't see any debian-based options in your list (tru64 maybe?)
[21:42] <holstein> !info seamonkey
[21:43] <afflicto>  I'm having trouble getting 3 monitors to work on ubuntu 12.04 using the proprietary drivers. Anyone wanna help? :(
[21:43] <redramires> Hi
[21:44] <holstein> QTPieMan: https://launchpad.net/~bratherlui/+archive/seamonkey
[21:44] <T7400> after i had update for ubuntu it das not detec no mouse no keybord
[21:44] <T7400> cane any one hlep
[21:44] <holstein> T7400: i would try booting the older kernel
[21:45] <holstein> afflicto: what proprietary driver? we really dont have access to that code.. if you are using the repo version you could try oe from the vendor instead
[21:45] <QTPieMan> holstein, it use to be available in repos
[21:45] <holstein> QTPieMan: its not there. the ppa has it.. im not the maintainer for either source
[21:45] <QTPieMan> holstein, ok
[21:46] <afflicto> holstein: the repo version doesn't work, I get graphical glitches and stuff.
[21:47] <holstein> afflicto: we dont have access to either one, but as a troubleshooting step, you can try the repo version with teh 3 monitor setup
[21:59] <moejama> Is there a known problem with file transfers between Ubuntu and Windows 7? My Ubuntu system is getting about half the transfer rate as a win 7 to win 7 transfer.
[22:00] <holstein> moejama: i wouldnt say "known".. are you using samba?
[22:01] <moejama> I have tried pulling the file from a Win7 system and I also setup Samba and pulled it from the Ubuntu system. Both cases got me about the same speeds. Even used a stop watch to time them. I have tried a Realtek and Broadcom card and two seperate computers
[22:02] <moejama> I also tried Linux Mint ubuntu and debian distros. On both setups I have Windows 2012 dual boot and it gets 2-3 times the speed on a 6 gig transfer
[22:02] <holstein> moejama: samba is not exactly the windows files sharing protocol AFAIK
[22:03] <holstein> moejama: try ssh, or something native to linux that both could have in common
[22:03] <moejama> Is there anyway to get windows to windows like speeds between ubuntu and windows
[22:03] <moejama> Im trying to setup a NAS/media center
[22:03] <moejama> I need it to file share with Windows
[22:03] <holstein> moejama: i dont have windows, and when its around, i make it do ssh or fpt
[22:03] <holstein> ftp*
[22:05] <holstein> moejama: you could try using a samba server to host which might host speeds to both linux and windows optimally
[22:05] <moejama> Is there a faster solution for using Ubuntu as a crossplatform file server than Samba, beside ftp?
[22:05] <moejama> I did setup Samba on the Ubuntu system and it still got about half the speed as when 2 windows systems transfer
[22:05] <moejama> Everything else seems fast, just not network file transfers and that's kind of a big deal for a NAS
[22:06] <holstein> moejama: is it?
[22:06] <holstein> moejama: are you not able to stream what you want? at a quality that is acceptable?
[22:06] <moejama> well i was about to say it might work but i know FreeNAS like solutions are supposedly getting 100 MB/s transfers and Im getting like 40
[22:06] <brontosaurusrex> moejama, i would try ftp server on nix and compare that to samba speed, if it is the same, then its not about protocol, but something else
[22:07] <holstein> yeah, i would try and isolate as well.. and test
[22:07] <moejama> i have the exact systems as dual boot with windows 2012 and the transfer is great under windows
[22:07] <moejama> but i have not tested two linux systems trasnfer yet
[22:08] <moejama> that would be an easy test
[22:08] <holstein> also, ftp would be easy
[22:10] <jluc> 'o
[22:10] <jluc> is it me or chromium and chrome are awfully bugged on ubuntu ?
[22:11] <[Gentoo]> in what way
[22:11] <jluc> talking to me [Gentoo] ?
[22:11] <[Gentoo]> yes
[22:11] <jluc> lots of site display badly
[22:11] <moejama> Yeah but the goal is to stream movies to devices like WD Live or other HTPCs as well as be an easy point and click backup for windows server .. like a NAS
[22:11] <jluc> like facebook google+ or other
[22:12] <[Gentoo]> jluc: can you post a screenshot?
[22:12] <moejama> It should still work and all but I expect transfer rates as good or better than windows
[22:12] <hewhomust> jluc, hmm i found it to work perfectly
[22:12] <jluc> ok hewhomust that's good to know
[22:13] <holstein> jluc: i use chrome, and it works fine, though its not officially supported here.. chromium also works fine
[22:13] <brontosaurusrex> moejama, my very old and crunchy pc can easily stream bluray stuff to my tv (via dlna)
[22:13] <jluc> i posted a bug report on crbug wirth screenshots so i'm looking for it now
[22:13] <brontosaurusrex> moejama, but i do understand your point about speed.
[22:14] <jluc> ok holstein
[22:15] <[Gentoo]> jluc: i do find chromium more buggy than firefox, ive used chromium as my primary browser since it came out and can say fore me firefox is more solid
[22:16] <[Gentoo]> never had any flaky bugs with firefox
[22:17] <jluc> firefox never causes problem so i can allways resort to it - but it is so slow to launch...
[22:17] <[Gentoo]> yeah, thats why i use chromium lol
[22:17] <hewhomust> jluc, yeah i find it too slow
[22:18] <johnsmith> I want to set wine as the default program for exe files. How do I do that? When I go to properties, wine isn't listed.
[22:18] <[Gentoo]> just a few miliseconds faster startup makes all the difference
[22:18] <hewhomust> yup
[22:18] <[Gentoo]> johnsmith: it should be by default afaik, but you could add a custom command for wine
[22:18] <Dr_willis> johnsmith,  i think theres a wine-launcher app it uses
[22:19] <Dr_willis> and it should be the default.
[22:19] <Dr_willis> i find double clicking a .exe to launch it - can often be very flakey
[22:20] <jluc> what could be the origin of my chrome/mium corruption then ?
[22:20] <johnsmith> For exe files, the default is mono runtime. I don't know why.
[22:20] <QTPieMan> jluc, chrome and chromium are differant
[22:20] <Dr_willis> mono can also use .exe extension perhaps?
[22:20] <Dr_willis> i never use mono
[22:21] <jluc> i had issue with chromium so io went to chrome... but same type of issue arises
[22:21] <QTPieMan> jluc, what issue?
[22:22] <brontosaurusrex> jluc, i have a coworker that lives in facebook and he uses chrome all the time (on debian, but should not make any difference i guess).
[22:22] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/259649/why-does-ubuntu-fail-to-run-exe-files-how-do-i-run-exe/262123#262123 might give some info  johnsmith
[22:22] <hewhomust> bront, i have no problem either
[22:23] <Guest31086> hello
[22:23] <hewhomust> hi guest
[22:23] <brontosaurusrex> hewhomust, yeah, besides high mem usage, chrome is a mercedes
[22:23] <Guest31086> how do I register a nick on freenode?
[22:23] <Dr_willis> !regiester | Guest31086
[22:23] <Dr_willis> !register | Guest31086
[22:24] <hewhomust> jluc, midori is also another nice web browser
[22:24] <jluc> i dont know midori i will have a look
[22:24] <hewhomust> its quick
[22:24] <johnsmith> It seems like the article is about failing to run exe files. I have no problem running exe files. I just want to be able to double click on it and have it run wine instead of having to go to "open with".
[22:25] <brontosaurusrex> midori 0.5.x is pretty cool, but still more like kia compared to chrome
[22:25] <jluc> thanks hewhomust
[22:25] <hewhomust> np
[22:26] <Dr_willis> johnsmith,  check the askubuntu.com site for other similer questions.. not just that one perhaps?
[22:26] <Dr_willis> johnsmith,  that should normally be the default. the fact you installed mono may be confuseing things.
[22:29] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> Hello Comunnity
[22:29] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> Samba?
[22:29] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> Where do I get some info?
[22:29] <ikonia> the samba website ?
[22:29] <ikonia> the samba IRC channel
[22:29] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> nops
[22:29] <ikonia> the ubuntu wiki
[22:29] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> SMB SERVER
[22:30] <ikonia> MOD3RN_W4RF4RE: how about your ask a specific question
[22:30] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> hello ikonia
[22:30] <th0r> MOD3RN_W4RF4RE, and quit screaming
[22:30] <ikonia> MOD3RN_W4RF4RE: there is a lot of info on the samba website, so if you need something specific, it's better you just ask
[22:30] <OerHeks> maybe this page is a good start >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide
[22:31] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> how do the clients connect to the server, where is the specif configuration for open some interface, like ports or socks
[22:31] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> Thanks OerHerks
[22:31] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> Iḿ was fully succeed in install i2p framework
[22:32] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> but Iḿ having problems with PRIVOXY
[22:35] <Sc0tty-> Hello
[22:35] <thinkpad> so which 1 do i dl 12.04 or 13.04
[22:36] <ikonia> up to you
[22:36] <redramires> Did anybody know how to see open ports in ubuntu?
[22:36] <thinkpad> wats difference?
[22:36] <ikonia> thinkpad: LTS support and later versions of the base products
[22:36] <ikonia> redramires: wht do you mean "open ports"
[22:36] <thinkpad> can u be specific
[22:36] <thinkpad> as in what are up side to 13
[22:36] <Sc0tty-> aren't the ports on your router?
[22:36] <redramires> ports for protocols
[22:37] <ikonia> thinkpad: I suggest you resarch - it's personal taste
[22:37] <ikonia> redramires: what is the problem you are trying to solve
[22:38] <redramires> This is for security.
[22:38] <ikonia> redramires: what is the problem you are trying to solve
[22:38] <redramires> Damn.ubuntuforums isn't working.
[22:39] <ikonia> redramires: what is the problem you are trying to solve
[22:39] <Sc0tty-> I don't think english is his first language
[22:39] <remx> I just read that Ubuntu forums have been breached. What could a hacker do with a salted password?
[22:39] <ikonia> remx: distribute or attempt to break them
[22:39] <ikonia> remx: I suggest some research
[22:40] <thinkpad> id like to install software like reaver from backtrack on ubuntu how ?
[22:40] <remx> I joined the forums years ago, I don't even know what my password is and because I don't know, I don't know which other services still use it
[22:40] <ikonia> thinkpad: don't mix repos from other distributions
[22:41] <thinkpad> so i have to dual boot cant combine?
[22:41] <Sc0tty-> use virtualbox or vmware?
[22:41] <ikonia> they are seperate platforms, just based off the same core, do not mix repos
[22:43] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> repos=repositories?
[22:43] <ikonia> correct
[22:43] <redramires> yeap
[22:43] <Sc0tty-> does anyone here use xchat?
[22:43] <ikonia> Sc0tty-: why ?
[22:44] <RobbyF> yup
[22:44] <redramires> I don't
[22:44] <ikonia> why not just ask the question, rather than if anyone is using xchat
[22:44] <Sc0tty-> I can't scroll up for some reason
[22:45] <Sc0tty-> was wondering if that is a common problem and if so how to fix it?
[22:45] <ikonia> how are you trying to scroll up ?
[22:45] <Sc0tty-> to see the /list
[22:46] <ikonia> what ?
[22:46] <ikonia> "how are you scrolling up" - "to see the /list"
[22:46] <Sc0tty-> oh sorry misread the question, by pressing the up arrow
[22:46] <johnsmith> I tried uninstalling mono runtime, and It just made archive manager as the default application. I want to know if there was anyway to make wine show up as a default (or at least recommended) application.
[22:47] <onlyonelaserman> mumpitzel: Wanted to follow up with the error I had earlier on the dual boot. Are you here?
[22:47] <johnsmith> because when i click on "show more applications" wine doesn't show up for some reason.
[22:47] <ikonia> Sc0tty-: does it scroll at all, or just a bit
[22:47] <Sc0tty-> no not at all
[22:47] <Sc0tty-> just cycles through my previous messages I sent in chat
[22:47] <ikonia> Sc0tty-: what about if you restart xchat ?
[22:48] <ikonia> Sc0tty-: ahhhh you need to use the scroll arrow
[22:48] <ikonia> it's a different key
[22:48] <ikonia> the arrow key has focus on the text input, not the screen
[22:48] <th0r> Sc0tty-, you should also be able to use the middle wheel if you have one on the mouse
[22:49] <Sc0tty-> oh nevermind I figured out what I was doing wrong, thanks for the help anyway, I'm using a laptop
[22:49] <brontosaurusrex> johnsmith, which wine && apt-cache policy wine < shows something?
[22:49] <joshu> anyone know where network manager stores the mobile broadband PIN? when I set it in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Mobile Connection, connect once then remove the PIN, reboot, I can still connect, so it must be saved somewhere else
[22:50] <ikonia> joshu: it's gnome-keyring I think ....
[22:51] <joshu> hey ikonia I just saw that whilst googling, but I'm not sure how I can "view" what it that keyring command line only?
[22:51] <ikonia> joshu: the keyring has a gui interface
[22:54] <Dat> what an I use to proxy all outbound connections?
[22:54] <ikonia> that's quite a wide request
[22:54] <ikonia> you'd be better doing something such as a nat
[22:54] <johnsmith> brontosaurusrex: It shows /usr/bin/wine. then it says that wine is installed and links me to a website.
[22:55] <Dat> ikonia: if I use nat i'm not sure how that would help me proxy outbound connections
[22:55] <ikonia> Dat: what is the problem you're actually trying to resolve
[22:55] <Dat> ikonia: perhaps a better question is how can I proxy all outbound connections with a remote proxy?
[22:55] <ikonia> Dat: as "proxy outbound connections" is quite a wide range of things to deal with
[22:56] <Dat> ikonia: hrmm I thought an gre tunnel would be the way but I can only seem to proxy inbound connections
[22:56] <ikonia> Dat: why do you need to proxy "everything"
[22:56] <ikonia> Dat: different things use different proctocols/methods, hence why it's a wide range
[22:57] <Dat> ikonia: because the host would be insecure
[22:57] <ikonia> what do you mean the host would be insecure
[22:57] <Dat> So i'd like to proxy atleast common stuff http/irc/ftp/mail etc
[22:57] <ikonia> your machine is still connected to the intenret
[22:57] <ikonia> so it's no more/less secure
[22:57] <joshu> Dat not sure but maybe something like this http://major.io/2009/05/26/simple-socks-proxy-using-ssh/#comments
[22:58] <ikonia> infact it's less secure as you have a man in the middle position
[22:58] <laZilla> hi need help regarding which ubuntu version to install on 4gb space since the lattest two versions require 10 gb and 4.3gb minimum
[22:58] <ikonia> laZilla: you don't have enough disk space
[22:58] <joshu> Dat if you're on an insecure network and want to protect all your inbound/outbound traffic use VPN
[22:58] <Dat> ikonia: regardless of the level of its secureness i'd like to be able to proxy outbound connections for http/mail/ftp/irc
[22:59] <ikonia> Dat: it's not more secure
[22:59] <Dat> ikonia: doesn't matter thats what I would like
[22:59] <ikonia> Dat: why ?
[22:59] <Dat> joshu: I was going to take that approach but a VPN would steal reveal the IP of the actual host
[23:00] <Dat> ikonia: that doesn't matter either I just need to figure out away to do this
[23:00] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone I'm trying to install google chrome on ubuntu natty and it's not working, it says gconf-service isn't installable as in its missing, how do I fix the missing dependencies, apt-get install -f does nothing...
[23:00] <joshu> Dat don't know what you're trying to accomplish..maybe you hiding from the NSA…you can't be Snowden cause he knows what he's doing :P
[23:00] <ikonia> Dat: yes but if security is your reason, you're making it les secure
[23:01] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone I'm trying to install google chrome on ubuntu natty and it's not working, it says gconf-service isn't installable as in its missing, how do I fix the missing dependencies, apt-get install -f does nothing...
[23:01] <Dat> joshu: no I am not him lol.. but I'd like to mask my real IP
[23:01] <joshu> Dat if you're worried about your Ip being revealed then where are you planning on proxing all your traffic too?
[23:01] <kostkon> THE_GFR|WORK, natty is eol that's why. the repos for it are down
[23:01] <Dat> when connecting to the outside world
[23:01] <joshu> Dat ok we're getting somewhere
[23:02] <joshu> well there's no such thing as 100%, but why don't you look at Tor
[23:02] <Dat> joshu: I'll proxy it to another server where I wouldn't care if hte IP is revealed
[23:02] <kostkon> THE_GFR|WORK, in other words, natty has "expired", you need to upgrade to a newer supported version, like 12.04, which is supported until 2017
[23:03] <THE_GFR|WORK> kostkon so there is no way to install chrome?
[23:03] <joshu> ok Dat if that is the case then VPN to that server. What you said previously about the VPN revealing your IP you just said that's ok?! Which is it?
[23:03] <sam113101> GUYS
[23:03] <sam113101> can someone help me?
[23:03] <kostkon> THE_GFR|WORK, no, I don't believe so
[23:03] <Dat> no
[23:04] <sam113101> why can't I make the fonts look the same? http://i.imgur.com/RCzkXvV.png
[23:04] <Dat> creating a vpn on the server I dont want the real IP revealed makes no sense because when I make a outbound connection it will use the IP of that server
[23:04] <kostkon> THE_GFR|WORK, I mean, better spend your time getting ready to upgrade instead of try to do something that is pointless maybe, run new update softare on old software
[23:04] <Dat> Perhaps a ssh tunnel might be a better approach for outbound taffic
[23:04] <Dat> traffic*
[23:04] <kostkon> trying*
[23:04] <kostkon> updated* etc
[23:05] <joshu> Dat Unfortunately I can't help or suggest anything other than "pull the plug" and you won't have to worry about it :P
[23:05] <Dat> joshu: I know there has to be an option
[23:05] <sam113101> why can't I make the fonts look the same? http://i.imgur.com/RCzkXvV.png
[23:05] <root__> :D
[23:06] <root__> problem avec SET !!!
[23:06] <sam113101> what?
[23:06] <ikonia> Dat: why are you doing this, it makes no sense
[23:07] <zykotic10> ikonia: +1
[23:08] <Dat> ikonia: to mask my real IP
[23:08] <ikonia> Dat: why though ?
[23:08] <ikonia> mask it from what ?
[23:08] <ikonia> from who ?
[23:08] <sam113101> why can't I make the fonts look the same? http://i.imgur.com/RCzkXvV.png
[23:09] <Dat> ikonia: the world anyone I can connect to
[23:09] <ikonia> Dat: but who are you going to proxy these things through ?
[23:09] <ikonia> Dat: you're actually making yourself more insecure
[23:10] <Dat> ikonia: connections will be proxies through another server
[23:10] <Dat> on another network
[23:10] <ikonia> Dat: you're also going to cause problems for things like SMTP as they will normally have IP/network related rules on them
[23:10] <Dat> with a completely different IP
[23:10] <ikonia> Dat: do you manage this server ?
[23:10] <Dat> i do
[23:10] <ikonia> Dat: so why don't you just nat/forward connections as I said earlier
[23:11] <Dat> ikonia: I'm not sure how to nat/forward a remote network
[23:11] <ikonia> Dat: I'm sorry, you are doing something totally foolish
[23:12] <ikonia> Dat: you're making a security situation out of nothing, because you want to "hide" your IP that is registered all over the place thanks to your ISP
[23:13] <Dat> ikonia: this doesn't matter if I can do anything to mask my real IP when making outbound connections I'd like to do so
[23:13] <Dat> how can I forward/nat to make this happen?
[23:13] <ikonia> Dat: use iptables, but I strongly, VERY strongly advise you not to do this
[23:13] <ikonia> Dat: is this ubuntu of freebsd you're trying to do this on
[23:14] <Dat> freebsd & ubuntu
[23:14] <ikonia> it can't be both
[23:14] <Dat> I have a ubuntu-to-ubuntu system and a freebsd-to-freebsd system
[23:14] <Dat> incase I can't mix
[23:14] <ikonia> this isn't real
[23:15] <Dat> ?
[23:15] <ikonia> based on what you are saying in ##freebsd and the information you are giving here, I don't believe you are telling the truth/being honest about what you are doing/why - so I'll back away from this
[23:16] <Dat> ikonia: ahh another irc profiler
[23:16] <Dat> no prob i'll ask again later and hopefully someone will want to help
[23:16] <ikonia> Dat: I can only go by what you are saying - and what you are saying makes no sense,
[23:16] <Dat> and not be to busy trying to convert me away from what I am trying to do
[23:16] <ikonia> nothing to do with profiling, just the informtion you are saying conflicts,
[23:16] <sam113101> why can't I make the fonts look the same? http://i.imgur.com/RCzkXvV.png
[23:17] <afflicto> Is anyone able to reach amd.com? I can't reach it and I need a driver :(
[23:17] <ikonia> afflicto: why can't you reach it, it's up and respnding
[23:17] <Dat> afflicto: works here
[23:17] <sam113101> afflicto: I can
[23:17] <redramires> afflicto: I can
[23:17] <kostkon> afflicto, http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/amd.com
[23:18] <Dat> Does anyone know if a ssh tunnel would work for my problem?
[23:18] <ikonia> Dat: no, it won't
[23:19] <ikonia> Dat: as I told you, you can't proxy "the system" you need to have each service setup with a matching protocol forward/proxy
[23:19] <redramires> It won't
[23:19] <afflicto> ok. anyone want to upload the 64bit HD Radeon drivers for me? for linux. upload it somewhere.
[23:19] <ikonia> Dat: which is why I'm telling you what you want to do makes no sense, and it's making your enviornment less secure
[23:19] <ikonia> afflicto: visit the site yourself
[23:19] <QTPieMan> do i make install seamonkey or checkinstall ?
[23:19] <redramires> I will try afflicto
[23:19] <ikonia> QTPieMan: isn't there a package ?
[23:19] <sam113101> why can't I fix the goddamn font
[23:19] <ikonia> !info seamonkey
[23:19] <Mechares> "info" does not compute
[23:19] <Dat> Does anyone know how I can proxy outbound ftp/ssh/http/https connections?
[23:19] <sam113101> how hard can it be
[23:19] <ikonia> sam113101: repeating it won't change
[23:20] <sam113101> ikonia: what will?
[23:20] <ikonia> Dat: I've told you how to do it, and that it is a very bad idea
[23:20] <afflicto> ikonia: I can't reach amd.com for some weird reason :P
[23:20] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> haha
[23:20] <ikonia> afflicto: I suggest you fix that before doing anything else
[23:20] <afflicto> redramires: thanks.
[23:20] <kostkon> afflicto, try pinging it for a start
[23:20] <QTPieMan> ikonia, looks like theres no more a package in repos
[23:20] <MOD3RN_W4RF4RE> You must try some Anonimity Framework
[23:21] <QTPieMan> !find seamonkey
[23:21] <Mechares> "find" does not compute
[23:21] <Dat> ikonia: can you provide any examples?
[23:21] <ikonia> Dat: no
[23:21] <Dat> ikonia: then can you let someone else?
[23:21] <ikonia> Dat: others are welcome to provide examples,
[23:21] <ikonia> I'm not stopping them
[23:21] <afflicto> I tried pinging support.amd.com, I get "unknown host".
[23:21] <ikonia> afflicto: fix your dns
[23:21] <Dat> ikonia: seems like you are
[23:21] <ikonia> Dat: I've not stopped anyone at all
[23:21] <redramires> afflicto: Type the name of graphic card
[23:22] <Dat> ikonia: yeah ok
[23:22] <afflicto> HD 7850
[23:22] <QTPieMan> so make install or checkinstall ?
[23:22] <ikonia> QTPieMan: neither,
[23:22] <QTPieMan> ikonia, why?
[23:22] <ikonia> QTPieMan: hang on, I'm just having a little look at a few things
[23:23] <QTPieMan> ikonia, ok
[23:24] <rosco_y> I'm creating an account for my wife:  Does anyone have links to help me understand which groups I should add her to?
[23:24] <redramires> afflicto: AMD Catalyst™ 13.4 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver.Ok?
[23:24] <rosco_y> She's pretty saavy, I'd like to giver her sudoers access.
[23:25] <ikonia> rosco_y: mirror your own groups then
[23:25] <rosco_y> redramires: what version are you using?
[23:25] <rosco_y> ikonia: thanks :)
[23:25] <redramires> It's not for me.
[23:25] <ikonia> QTPieMan: maybe worth having a look at this, and considering it https://launchpad.net/~bratherlui/+archive/seamonkey
[23:25] <redramires> afflicto need probably this drivers but he can't acces amd site
[23:26] <ikonia> right, so he needs to fix that
[23:26] <ikonia> that's a serious problem with his name resolution
[23:26] <ikonia> fixing that before anything else should be the goal
[23:26] <redramires> Yeah
[23:26] <QTPieMan> ikonia, looks like thats untrusted
[23:26] <afflicto> redramires: yeah, the 64 bit version, if there is one. maybe it includes both I don't temember :P
[23:26] <ikonia> QTPieMan: why do you say that ?
[23:27] <QTPieMan> ikonia, the ppa:bratherlui/seamonkey
[23:27] <ikonia> QTPieMan: and ?
[23:27] <ikonia> QTPieMan: he knows more than you do - and can create a stable build, I'd trust him over you blindly typing "make install"
[23:27] <QTPieMan> ikonia, isnt it better to download from official website?
[23:27] <ikonia> QTPieMan: not when you don't really know what you are doing, and have the possability of wrecking your machine
[23:28] <QTPieMan> ikonia, oh ok who is he btw?
[23:28] <ikonia> QTPieMan: he has a stable build, I'd rather try that as it can be removed cleanly over what you are trying to do
[23:28] <ikonia> QTPieMan: no idea
[23:28] <QTPieMan> ikonia, oh got it
[23:29] <QTPieMan> ikonia, and btw how to remove ppa?
[23:29] <ikonia> !ppa | QTPieMan
[23:29] <Mechares> "ppa" does not compute
[23:29] <ikonia> !ppa
[23:29] <Mechares> "ppa" does not compute
[23:29] <ikonia> ar Mechares no bots in #ubuntu please
[23:29] <redramires> afflicto:Wait please
[23:30] <afflicto> redramires: sure!
[23:31] <QTPieMan> also is qupzilla safe?
[23:31] <ikonia> what do you mean "safe"
[23:31] <redramires> afflicto: I am downloading it
[23:31] <ikonia> in what respect ?
[23:32] <afflicto> redramires: k
[23:32] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i mean is it trused?
[23:32] <redramires> afflicto: How I will give it ti you?Do you have skype?
[23:32] <ikonia> QTPieMan: from where ?
[23:33] <kostkon> redramires, upload it on a filebin
[23:33] <ikonia> afflicto: one final time - fix your dns before doing anything else
[23:33] <ikonia> afflicto: stop asking people to get files for you that can break your machine and fix your dns
[23:33] <ikonia> afflicto: that way you can fix any problems you may have
[23:33] <QTPieMan> ikonia, ? i mean is it safe to browse with it? can it be gathering browsing data etc?
[23:34] <ikonia> QTPieMan: any browser/website can gather data
[23:34] <afflicto> redramires: yeah, it's "afflicto". let me install skype on it tho.
[23:34] <OerHeks> QTPieMan, it is not in the repository's. never heard of it untill you mentioned it now.
[23:34] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hmm
[23:35] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, its in debian repos
[23:35] <afflicto> ikonia: Ok! relax.. I'm just really annoyed with graphics drivers. I've spent several days trying to get 3 monitors working.
[23:35] <ikonia> QTPieMan: are you using debian.....
[23:35] <ikonia> afflicto: yeah, but you have a more serious problem,
[23:35] <ikonia> afflicto: that can have impact on more things
[23:35] <QTPieMan> ikonia, nope
[23:35] <ikonia> QTPieMan: so the debian repos mean nothing then
[23:35] <redramires> afflicto: It's downloading.Try to set DNS to 8.8.8.8
[23:36] <QTPieMan> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/qupzilla-might-just-be-the-best-browser-youve-never-heard-of found here
[23:36] <ikonia> QTPieMan: why don't you just use firefox
[23:36] <Sc0tty-> use firefox or chrome?
[23:36] <OerHeks> QTPieMan, ikonia told me not to mix debian and ubuntu,unless you really need to. there is an PPA > https://launchpad.net/~nowrep/+archive/qupzilla  but carefull with PPA's !
[23:36] <ikonia> this nonsense about data gathering is just paranoia and it's just over the top
[23:36] <clue_h> or use lynx
[23:36] <afflicto> ok. How do I investigate this dns thing then?
[23:36] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hmm'
[23:36] <afflicto> redramires: set DNS? I don't even know what that means lol.
[23:36] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, ok
[23:37] <ikonia> OerHeks: to clarify, never mix ubuntu/debian repos
[23:37] <redramires> afflicto: facepalm :)
[23:38] <redramires> afflicto: Domain Name Resolver
[23:38] <Sc0tty-> I'm pretty new to linux in general, what do you mean by repos?
[23:38] <afflicto> redramires: well, I sorta know what DNS is but I don't know what "set dns" means. :P
[23:38] <slooksterpsv> dns is the way that your computer says oh www.somesite.com is actually 25.23.111.252
[23:38] <redramires> afflicto: It converts site name to IP address
[23:38] <afflicto> I know! XD
[23:38] <redramires> afflicto: Do you use ubuntu?
[23:38] <afflicto> yeah
[23:39] <redramires> afflicto: Do you know where is nework manager?
[23:40] <afflicto> redramires: think so..
[23:40] <redramires> afflicto: Yes or no?
[23:40] <redramires> afflicto: Find it.
[23:40] <redramires> afflicto: It is on upper panel
[23:41] <redramires> afflicto: Then choose edit connections
[23:41] <jarco> I have 2 related questions: To run steam games with a radeon hd 5830 do I best use open or proparitairy drivers? Also how do I stop the fan from running full speed on the open drivers?
[23:41] <redramires> afflicto: Got that?
[23:41] <afflicto> redramires: yea
[23:42] <redramires> afflicto: Choose your connection and push edit
[23:42] <redramires> afflicto: Got that?
[23:42] <afflicto> redramires: ye
[23:43] <kairobin> hi guys
[23:43] <redramires> afflicto: There will be IPv4 settings
[23:43] <redramires> afflicto: Is it there?
[23:43] <afflicto> redramires: k
[23:43] <afflicto> redramires: yea
[23:43] <kairobin> join/ openfiler
[23:43] <afflicto> it's on DHCP.
[23:43] <redramires> afflicto: There must be field "additional DNS"
[23:44] <redramires> afflicto: Type there 8.8.8.8 and ssave it
[23:44] <afflicto> redramires: ok, what does this do exactly?
[23:44] <redramires> afflicto: Try to connect to amd
[23:45] <afflicto> redramires: lol, it works now.
[23:45] <redramires> afflicto:  Ta daaaa
[23:45] <afflicto> redramires: lol thanks xD
[23:45] <redramires> afflicto:  You welcome
[23:46] <afflicto> redramires: what did I do exactly?
[23:47] <redramires> afflicto:  You setted as DNS google server .But I recomend you resolve your problem with your DNS.This is permanent solution.
[23:48] <afflicto> redramires: ok, so I'm not using my ISP's dns which the router gives me? or Am I using both.. I dno.
[23:49] <redramires> afflicto:  Actualy you are using two but if first sin't respondind then works the second(additional)
[23:49] <redramires> afflicto:  Sorry old keyboard
[23:49] <afflicto> redramires: ok. So, is it my router or perhaps my ISP that's having issues?
[23:49] <redramires> afflicto:  I think yes
[23:50] <afflicto> redramires: hm ok
[23:50] <red22> I'm having problems booting into windows after installing some updates :(  Been logged into ubuntu for a few days and just realized I had problems after a reboot.  I ran boot repair and still nothing.  I have a triple-boot machine (or had!) with grub loading then handing off to the windows bootloader from which I booted win7.  How can I set up grub to hand off to the windows secondary bootloader again please?
[23:52] <rosco_y> how can I convert an mp4 to an mp3?
[23:53] <jarco> I have 2 related questions: To run steam games with a radeon hd 5830 do I best use open or proparitairy drivers? Also how do I stop the fan from running full speed on the open drivers?
[23:53] <redramires> rosco_y: Video to sound ? o_O
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> rosco_y  use winff
[23:54] <RoflWaffle17> Hey everyone
[23:54] <red22> i'm looking at my boot entries in grub customizer, and there is the entry for windows 7 loader.. but when i reboot it doesn't really work...  Need to edit it somehow.. Or should I use the win7 cd to repair booting to windows and then install grub again from a live cd?  Not sure what to do to be able to boot into windows again :/
[23:54] <afflicto> redramires: alrighty, installing ATI drivers now. thanks again!
[23:54] <RoflWaffle17> Can anyone here help me?
[23:54] <red22> rosco_y, vlc media player does it too.
[23:55] <RoflWaffle17> anyone?
[23:55] <red22> RoflWaffle17, just ask and see if anyone knows
[23:56] <redramires> afflicto:  You welcome
[23:56] <RoflWaffle17> So I have had a VM of ubuntu 12.04 for about 2 weeks now...now problems running fine. Then one day after work I come back and I get this up load up. "Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors.".....every time.
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> !info winff | rosco_y
[23:57] <ctugt> can anyone help me  i can get into ubuntu its giving me a error about my audio
[23:57] <RoflWaffle17> upon* load up. And it wont let me put my windows to the side of the desktop (the windows 7 features) and it wont let me maximize windows by dragging them to the top of my screen.
[23:58] <afflicto> Ok, so I just installed the ATI drivers but when I open AMD Catalyst (Administrative) it asks for password in a terminal-like box and when I type my password it says "authentication failure" then quits. whaaat? :S
[23:59] <redramires> RoflWaffle17: "Could not apply the stored configuration for the monitor, could not find a suitable configuration of screens" ????
[23:59] <GeekAdmin> How do I enable USB speakers (ONLY cord is USB for power and audio) for Ubuntu 12.04.2 SERVER.  Any help would be appreciated
[23:59] <ctugt> anyone?