| knome | elfy, can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Alpha2/Xubuntu | 10:26 |
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| knome | ochosi, ping | 12:26 |
| knome | bug 1204486 | 12:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1204486 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "Unable to select alternate languages at login screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204486 | 12:27 |
| knome | ochosi, also, theming fail: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/saucy_testing/bug_greeter_shutdown_popup.png | 12:32 |
| knome | ochosi, and don't tell me i didn't inform you well before the finel release. :) | 12:33 |
| bluesabre | gotta go, be back way later | 12:44 |
| knome | have fun | 12:45 |
| jjfrv8 | Hi, knome. I just did a MP for the P docs with the three suggested changes from the reviewers. | 13:59 |
| knome | jjfrv8, cheers! | 14:38 |
| jjfrv8 | Hey | 14:38 |
| knome | i'll look at the MP in a minute | 14:53 |
| knome | jjfrv8, "next paragraph" isn't really accurate | 14:55 |
| knome | jjfrv8, i would be more comfortable with "subsection" or so | 14:56 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, yeah, I puzzled over that one for a while. Thought about making it a link, but it was too close. I can make it "subsection". | 15:00 |
| knome | if you would do that, would be cool | 15:01 |
| knome | i'm happy with the other stuff and can merge once you re-submit the MP | 15:01 |
| jjfrv8 | NP | 15:01 |
| knome | MP, NP, ... :) | 15:02 |
| jjfrv8 | :D | 15:04 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, MP with revision is up there. | 15:22 |
| knome | jjfrv8, now that we use the term subsection, what do you say on removing "next" ? | 15:26 |
| jjfrv8 | That's better. Will do. | 15:27 |
| jjfrv8 | Done | 15:36 |
| knome | btw, did you know you could've just updated the same branch and re-submit the same MP? | 15:39 |
| jjfrv8 | No, did not know that. Will try to remember that for next time. Thanks. | 15:40 |
| knome | if you want, you can try that now | 15:40 |
| jjfrv8 | Ok | 15:41 |
| jjfrv8 | repushed and resubmitted | 15:47 |
| knome | great! | 15:48 |
| jjfrv8 | Shall I delete the two unnecessary MPs? | 15:50 |
| knome | sure | 15:51 |
| knome | approved, merged and pushed to main branch | 15:51 |
| jjfrv8 | :) | 15:51 |
| jjfrv8 | Okay, I think it's all cleaned up | 15:58 |
| knome | yup, awesome | 15:58 |
| jjfrv8 | Sorry for the extra work | 15:58 |
| knome | absolutely no problem | 15:58 |
| jjfrv8 | Gotta go now, day job is calling. But I am working on getting an irc server set up. | 15:59 |
| knome | okay, have fun | 15:59 |
| knome | (and you can also ask pleia2 for a shell if you want to go the easier way) | 15:59 |
| jjfrv8 | I don't know all the pros and cons of the different ways of doing it but I don't want to have to leave my desktop running all the time | 16:01 |
| knome | sure. using pleia2's server will allow you that | 16:01 |
| knome | basically, it's the same as setting up or buying a shell | 16:01 |
| knome | except you don't set up anything and it's free. | 16:02 |
| ochosi | knome: what version of the greeter is that? 1.6? | 16:02 |
| knome | ochosi, whatever is in saucy | 16:02 |
| ochosi | (and: what version of greybird) | 16:02 |
| knome | ^ | 16:02 |
| knome | same | 16:02 |
| ochosi | cause that bug has been addressed in git | 16:02 |
| knome | no git stuff, just what's in saucy | 16:02 |
| knome | which one? | 16:02 |
| knome | the theming, or the lock-fail? | 16:02 |
| ochosi | the shutdown-dialog theming | 16:02 |
| knome | i was hoping the other :) | 16:03 |
| knome | but okay. | 16:03 |
| knome | i'll not file a bug about that then (i thought you'd know about it by now) | 16:03 |
| knome | do you think you could get working on the locking issue soon? | 16:03 |
| ochosi | what locking issue? | 16:04 |
| knome | (we will release alpha 2 with that bug in, but would be great if that was solved by betas) | 16:04 |
| knome | ochosi, bug 1204486 | 16:04 |
| ubottu | bug 1204486 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "Unable to select alternate languages at login screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204486 | 16:04 |
| knome | ochosi, see my comments on the bug | 16:04 |
| ochosi | aha | 16:05 |
| ochosi | yeah, didn't know about that one | 16:05 |
| knome | yup | 16:05 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: seems we have to fix a greeter-bug ^ | 16:05 |
| knome | awwh, the news tell that a bird in finland has 1000+ fans on facebook | 16:06 |
| knome | news fail | 16:06 |
| knome | yes, a single unit of bird, not a species | 16:06 |
| lderan | a popular bird then | 16:26 |
| ochosi | maybe Greybird? | 16:26 |
| knome | har har | 16:26 |
| knome | lderan, just some "orphan" | 16:26 |
| knome | whistler | 16:27 |
| lderan | ah one of those news stories | 16:27 |
| knome | yup, that's why i referred is as a news fail :P | 16:28 |
| knome | ochosi, btw, in saucy, the lock screen was still xscreensaver... | 16:34 |
| knome | ochosi, are you going to get the lightdm lockscreen in? | 16:35 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, i'm not surprised. so far we've only done a dev-release of light-locker | 16:35 |
| ochosi | so far there are a few bugreports that we'll address in the first release | 16:35 |
| ochosi | and then we can get it in (with mr_pouit and micahg's help i hope) | 16:35 |
| knome | ochosi, good - if you miss 13.10 it's not too bad, but i'd *really* like to get that in for 14.04 | 16:36 |
| ochosi | mm, same here | 16:36 |
| ochosi | have you tested it yet? | 16:36 |
| ochosi | (there's a ppa) | 16:36 |
| knome | ochosi, was there some progress on the gtk-theme-chooser and the display dialog? | 16:36 |
| knome | no, not yet | 16:36 |
| knome | ppa for raring or saucy? | 16:36 |
| ochosi | display-dialog is kinda up to mr_pouit | 16:36 |
| ochosi | both raring and saucy i think | 16:36 |
| knome | okay | 16:36 |
| ochosi | cause the display-dialog hasn't seen a stable release (which would be xfce4.12) | 16:36 |
| knome | i might test it in saucy, unless you need some real hardware testing | 16:37 |
| ochosi | nah, i guess both is fine | 16:37 |
| knome | ok, i'll do that the next time i run a test or so | 16:37 |
| ochosi | gtk-theme-config is still on micahg's list (i hope) | 16:37 |
| ochosi | cool, thanks | 16:37 |
| knome | oki, great to hear there's something going on | 16:37 |
| knome | need to start pulling the strings together for 14.04 | 16:37 |
| knome | would love to have a totally integrated-looking system | 16:38 |
| knome | :) | 16:40 |
| ochosi | sounds good :) | 16:40 |
| elfy | knome: this fail http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/299/builds/49672/testcases/1303/results can't be - we don't have usb-creator as a default app afaik - that's using a supposedly agnostic testcase - that testcase I have reported a bug against https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1198466 | 17:05 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1198466 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Live Session Testcase calls for Startup Disk Creator" [Undecided,New] | 17:05 |
| knome | elfy, the persistence part needs that | 17:07 |
| knome | elfy, see -quality, where i'm just discussing this in a more general tone with balloons | 17:07 |
| elfy | ok - will do shortly | 17:08 |
| knome | bbiab | 17:35 |
| elfy | k | 17:38 |
| elfy | 'hopefully' I'm about | 17:38 |
| knome | i'm back! | 18:23 |
| elfy | knome: I'm a bit tied up at the moment - but I'd like to try and sort out stopping things like a2 from disappearing - it'd great for ubuntu - but I'd love to be able to hold it for us - we have less testers | 18:25 |
| elfy | I know it used to drive me nuts when I was just testing - even worse now | 18:25 |
| knome | elfy, disappearing in what sense? | 18:25 |
| elfy | run out of time | 18:25 |
| knome | elfy, once we've marked stuff ready, you can't *report* more stuff | 18:26 |
| knome | elfy, and marking things ready is the prerequisite of releasing | 18:26 |
| elfy | oic - so we could just not mark it? | 18:26 |
| elfy | is it really that simple? | 18:26 |
| knome | well, no | 18:26 |
| knome | we need to mark them ready.. | 18:26 |
| knome | but the good thing is | 18:26 |
| knome | you can always report against the saucy dailies | 18:26 |
| elfy | yea - I realise that and that a2 is just 'that' daily | 18:27 |
| knome | milestones live their own life and the point of marking the images done is to not make the release mangers life a pain | 18:27 |
| elfy | ok | 18:28 |
| elfy | more thought needed here - though I guess next time as we participated we'll not get forgotten | 18:28 |
| knome | elfy, the "Saucy Daily" milestone has the exact same images than alpha2 | 18:28 |
| elfy | I know :) | 18:28 |
| knome | (and same tests) | 18:28 |
| knome | then just report against the daily! :) | 18:29 |
| elfy | yea | 18:29 |
| elfy | perhaps I'm seeing issues were there isn't any | 18:29 |
| knome | i'm thinking that's the case | 18:30 |
| elfy | :) | 18:30 |
| knome | in the case we wanted more time for image testing for a milestone, we simply should ask for more time before the release manager releases | 18:30 |
| knome | or request a respin if something is really brokwn | 18:30 |
| knome | *broken | 18:30 |
| knome | that way we'll get *some* additional time automatically | 18:30 |
| elfy | I'm possibly trying to apply methodology from work areas | 18:30 |
| knome | but that also puts our testers under pressure | 18:30 |
| knome | mhm | 18:31 |
| elfy | ok - I'll worry less about that and more about other things :) | 18:31 |
| knome | the alpha milestones in the tracker are just created to 1) get an image that isn't updated for X days 2) track where flavors are regarding releasing | 18:31 |
| elfy | I don't want to put any testers under pressure ;) | 18:31 |
| knome | well sometimes a respin is the only/best option, but not this time | 18:31 |
| knome | there were clearly bugs in the images, but not something we could have fixed today | 18:32 |
| knome | so either we said "ok release anyway" or "we don't want to release, but go ahead with the rest" | 18:32 |
| elfy | yep - I get that, it's the X days ... if ubuntu have 500 testers - 5 days is great, loads of tests - if we have 20 testers then not so good | 18:32 |
| elfy | is my position | 18:32 |
| elfy | I'm trying to find a way to get a bit more coverage on tests | 18:33 |
| knome | sure. | 18:33 |
| knome | i told to "freeze" our images as soon as somebody asked when we wanted to do that | 18:34 |
| knome | just start being noisy in #ubuntu-release X days before beta 1 about "freezing" our images again | 18:34 |
| elfy | having never done it - I was a bit at sea | 18:34 |
| elfy | yea - realising that now lol | 18:34 |
| knome | (that also means all developers should deliver their stuff one week before the beta, so puts some more pressure on them - but not huge) | 18:35 |
| elfy | yea | 18:35 |
| elfy | trying to find the balance is key | 18:35 |
| knome | actually 1 week before is the beta freeze day anyway so the developers are expected that :P | 18:35 |
| elfy | :) | 18:35 |
| elfy | I'm thinking that the 14.04 cycle will go much better - I'm not going to be learning as well | 18:36 |
| knome | sure :) | 18:36 |
| knome | bbl | 19:33 |
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| ganglere1 | I'm working on the post-installation test case. How do you test USB devices from within virtualbox? | 23:20 |
| Unit193 | Need the extension pack, as far as I know. | 23:21 |
| ganglere1 | vb extension pack? | 23:22 |
| ganglere1 | I'm installing the guest additions now, we'll see if that does it. | 23:27 |
| ganglere | Had to enable usb controller in machine settings and add myself to vboxusers on the host, don't think I needed guest additions | 23:35 |
| knome | pleia2, dum dum... | 23:38 |
| knome | :) | 23:38 |
| ganglere | Ok, so for "Post-installation (Xubuntu) in Xubuntu Desktop amd64 for Saucy Daily" everything ran flawlessly except that ubuntu software center crashed on the first try. It hasn't crashed since though. Should I go through the whole process again and see if it crashed on first launch? | 23:39 |
| knome | if it crashed, it crashed | 23:39 |
| knome | report a bug (no need to go back) | 23:39 |
| ganglere | Ok, thanks. | 23:40 |
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