| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1180470] "Window title" text box disabled in Window-Specific Settings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180470 (by Ibrahim M. Ghazal) | 00:46 |
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| ScottK | Quintasan: Better to do it for 13.10 than make the switch in an LTS cycle. | 04:04 |
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| soee | good morning | 07:27 |
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| Riddell | wibble, amarok doesn't start for me | 11:20 |
| Riddell | or it starts but doesn't show anything on screen | 11:20 |
| Peace- | Riddell: do you use amarok? | 11:21 |
| Peace- | i mean like default audio player? | 11:21 |
| Riddell | sure | 11:21 |
| Riddell | what else would I use? | 11:21 |
| jussi | juk? :D | 11:24 |
| Peace- | Riddell: vlc | 11:24 |
| jussi | (ok, ok, I relent, I use VLC) | 11:24 |
| Riddell | didn't that go out with the naughties? | 11:24 |
| Riddell | vlc doesn't have any playlist | 11:24 |
| Peace- | Riddell: sure it has | 11:24 |
| jussi | amarok is FAR too heavy for a simple media player | 11:24 |
| jussi | Riddell: it has, how far behind are you? :D | 11:25 |
| Riddell | it's not supposed to be a simple media player, it's supposed to let you rediscover your music | 11:25 |
| Riddell | I can go vlc * in a directories with an album in and it'll play it | 11:25 |
| Riddell | that's pretty limited | 11:25 |
| Peace- | Riddell: :D ok ok here it is :P http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/26/plasma-desktopbS2257.png | 11:25 |
| Riddell | mm, no list there | 11:26 |
| Peace- | Riddell: do you mean this list ? http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/26/plasma-desktopgk2257.png | 11:27 |
| Riddell | any easy way to add things to that? | 11:28 |
| Peace- | Riddell: drag and drop | 11:29 |
| Peace- | Riddell: and my service menu vlc append | 11:29 |
| jussi | I find it mildly funny we are trying to get Riddell to switch to some non kde sw... :P | 11:36 |
| Riddell | drag and drop from where? I want my collection on the right hand side | 11:40 |
| Riddell | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.10.97_saucy.html not bad not bad | 11:43 |
| Peace- | Riddell: on right you can see media library | 13:01 |
| Peace- | left | 13:01 |
| Peace- | * | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2013/07/25/obama-promises-disappear-from-web/ | 13:06 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 13:12 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1195723] 13.10 Alpha-2 Plasma Netbook Interface has no favorites @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1195723 (by Marco Parillo) | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: eh, vlc has a collection | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | and playlist | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | and only resource support | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | and upnp support | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | .... | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | s/only/online | 13:14 |
| Riddell | Peace-: that's not a collection, that's a list | 13:18 |
| Riddell | talking of music players, tomahawk crashing for me | 13:30 |
| yofel | what version of tomahawk? | 13:35 |
| yofel | I'll try to package 0.7 for the archive over the weekend | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: media library is not a list, well it technically is, except it's a media library... | 13:40 |
| yofel | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-launchpad-branches/launchpad-buildd/trunk/revision/58 :O | 13:44 |
| Riddell | yofel: 0.6.0+dfsg1-0ubuntu3 | 13:46 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: hurray? | 13:46 |
| shadeslayer | no silly ~raring1 now | 13:46 |
| yofel | yep :) | 13:46 |
| yofel | Riddell: mhm, there's 0.7 in tomahawk/ppa if you want to try it | 13:46 |
| * Riddell tries it | 13:48 | |
| shadeslayer | hm, we don't compile kdelibs with -fPIE | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/kf5/+build/4825511 | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | ......................... | 13:49 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what does PIE mean? | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | yofel: | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Position Independent Executable | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Position-independent_code | 13:49 |
| yofel | apachelogger: wtf? | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | I am tempted to think that qmake is even more shit than python | 13:50 |
| Riddell | "Started 20 hours ago" holy guacamole | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 13:50 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: everyone thinks that except the qmake maintainer | 13:50 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: isn't -fPIE default on amd64? | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | weren't they switching to QBS | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I don't see it https://launchpadlibrarian.net/145471384/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A4.10.95-0ubuntu1_UPLOADING.txt.gz | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | ahhh, cancelled builds of course have no log | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | weeh | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | cmake does say that it has FPIE support | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | but g++ doesn't seem to be called with that? | 13:51 |
| yofel | oh, I mixed that up with fPIC | 13:52 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: looking at the gcc manpage, why would you *want* to build with fPIE? | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: apparently Qt uses it for some reaon, and it seems to be useful for shared libraries? | 13:53 |
| * yofel is clueless | 13:54 | |
| apachelogger | ? | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | PIE? | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Position-independent_code | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | what about it | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: any reason not to have it in kdelibs? ( seems to be a useful option for libraries? ) | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | ask dfaure? | 13:57 |
| Riddell | yofel: tomahawk 0.7 crashes for me too | 13:57 |
| yofel | :( | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | will do | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | I personally do not see the benefit unless you actually manually do ASM somewhere | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | are you saying Qt does ASM somewhere? :O | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | an MMU pretty much solves waht PIC/PIE was meant to do originally | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I am actually reasonable certain qstring has asm bits | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 13:58 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 13:59 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtbase/blobs/HEAD/src/corelib/arch/qatomic_x86.h | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | well, makes sense then | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | lets check if kdelibs has asm code | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | just ask dfaure or send a mail to kde-core-devel? :P | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | a bit of grepping shows : ./solid/solid/backends/shared/cpufeatures.cpp: | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | eh | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | #define ASM_MOV_REG(reg1, reg2) "movl %%e"reg1", %%e"reg2" \n\t" | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | PIC doesn't help that bit at all | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I see | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | I'm not completly sure if it would be beneficial, just curious whether we should / should not enable it | 14:19 |
| agateau | anyone fancy testing wireless support in ubiquity? | 14:41 |
| agateau | code is in lp:~agateau/ubiquity/kde-wireless2 | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | wait | 14:42 |
| agateau | not proposed for merge yet as it depends on lp:~agateau/ubiquity/nm-split getting in | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | VBox doesn't have wireless stuff | 14:42 |
| Riddell | agateau: can it be run from a local installed machine? | 14:42 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: I was able to test it with a usb wifi adapter | 14:43 |
| Riddell | or does it need a live image? | 14:43 |
| Riddell | why a usb wifi adapter? | 14:43 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: by installing the closed-source extension | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 14:43 |
| Riddell | oh in virtualbox | 14:43 |
| agateau | Riddell: yes | 14:43 |
| agateau | Riddell: you can test part the networkmanager widget from your local machine, but it's not exactly a complete test | 14:44 |
| agateau | anyway, it can be done with cd where/ubiquity/src/is ; PYTHONPATH=$PWD python3 ubiquity/frontend/kde_components/nmwidgets.py | 14:44 |
| agateau | as root | 14:44 |
| agateau | first known problem is the entry in the sidebar is empty: it is waiting for a proper translated text. The text is declared in debian/ubiquity.template but I haven't looked into how to install that | 14:46 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: you looking at it? | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: still branching | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | grrr | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | somehow kio_file is screwed up | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | I keep getting "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'." | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | probably because I rebooted in the middle of a upgrade :( | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that's why I said ask david or the mailing list.... | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: david has no idea | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | which is a first for me :) | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | uhm | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | ahem | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | well, I'm seeing some minor video issues | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer | when the titlebar text changes, it is green for some duration | 15:43 |
| Riddell | nepomuk-core-runtime: postinst-must-call-ldconfig usr/lib/libnepomukextractor.so | 16:57 |
| Riddell | why does dh_makeshlibs not add that? | 16:57 |
| Riddell | is it the package name isn't libfoo? | 16:57 |
| Riddell | oh it'll be because it's unversioned | 17:03 |
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| Riddell | >ldd /usr/lib/libakonadi-kabc.so.4.11.0 statically linked | 17:10 |
| Riddell | wibble that's not supposed to happen | 17:10 |
| soee | hi | 17:17 |
| * Riddell high fives himself over the amount of green on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.10.97_saucy.html | 17:18 | |
| Riddell | anyone able to test it? then I'll upload | 17:18 |
| Riddell | !testers | 4.10.97 in ninjas | 17:18 |
| ubottu | 4.10.97 in ninjas: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information. | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what was wrong with kde-workspace? | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | and I'm on OS X right now, can't test :) | 17:19 |
| soee | saucy ? | 17:19 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: that lovely kwin maintainer renamed some files | 17:20 |
| Riddell | soee: yes | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 17:20 |
| soee | till the monday i dont have access to saucy | 17:20 |
| soee | only raring here | 17:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: triator | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | hey, atleast it's unix | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | poor agateau has to work on Windows :D | 17:20 |
| Riddell | he does? | 17:20 |
| soee | ;o | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | Qt patchery needs testing | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | He tests my patches on Windows, I test his on OS X | 17:21 |
| Riddell | what qt patches? | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | "Add icons to QLineEdit context menu (via qstyle?)" | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | oh on that matter | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: doesn't the task say to do it via qstyle? | 17:23 |
| Tm_T | with 4.10.95 packages, kubuntu-full is not installable | 17:48 |
| Tm_T | let's see what .97 says | 17:48 |
| Tm_T | aah no packages yet for ninjas | 17:49 |
| Tm_T | for raring that is | 17:49 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1194501] [ 4.8 Linaro regression] ICE on gcc-4.8 building kde4libs @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1194501 (by Scott Kitterman) | 19:02 |
| soee | hows the RC1 progress for rarring ? | 19:58 |
| yofel | soee: it's in the beta ppa for raring | 20:10 |
| * yofel will run the script for RC2 later | 20:10 | |
| soee | 4.10.90 is b2 ? | 20:12 |
| yofel | yes, .95 RC1, .97 RC2 | 20:12 |
| soee | ah so here on my laptom im on beta2 :) gonna upgrade now | 20:13 |
| ari-tczew | debfx: ping | 21:12 |
| yofel | Tm_T: I uploaded an updated kubuntu-meta to raring backports ppa that should fix that | 21:12 |
| debfx | ari-tczew: pong | 21:22 |
| ari-tczew | debfx: I've took a look on merge networkmanagement. the rest delta is this diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916281/ | 21:25 |
| ari-tczew | debfx: is it important change or can we drop it? | 21:25 |
| ari-tczew | debfx: ahhh, still one file changes are remaining: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916298/ | 21:31 |
| ari-tczew | then it could be probably a merge | 21:31 |
| debfx | ari-tczew: should be safe to drop that, but we also change some recommends to suggests | 21:33 |
| ari-tczew | debfx: and what about the second url ? | 21:35 |
| debfx | hm not really sure | 21:36 |
| yofel | not sure if all those headers should be there, but that's the solid stuff that was remove from kde-workspace 4.11 | 21:40 |
| yofel | *removed | 21:40 |
| debfx | ehm, is that the plasma-widget-networkmanagement package? | 21:45 |
| debfx | we shouldn't install any header files there | 21:46 |
| yofel | right | 21:53 |
| ari-tczew | debfx: so my 2nd paste should be dropped? | 21:54 |
| yofel | yes, but are those 2 desktop files really not needed? | 21:56 |
| ari-tczew | yofel, debfx: I have just installed networkmanagement from unstable and I don't see any difference | 22:36 |
| yofel | the modemmanager stuff still works? (that's the only desktop file I'm worried about) | 22:39 |
| yofel | Other than that it's probably just the control file changes that are still needed and the merge should be done | 22:39 |
| ari-tczew | yofel: where can I find modemmanager? | 22:41 |
| yofel | uh, it's that mobile phone connection thing, I think? not sure | 22:42 |
| ari-tczew | yofel: I have normal wifi, I don't use modem / phone connection | 22:42 |
| yofel | I personally would keep those 2 files. Debian probably doesn't need them yet as they still have modemmanager in kde-workspace 4.10 | 22:44 |
| ari-tczew | yofel: about d/control I've to make sure, but a part of them is already in Debian | 22:53 |
| yofel | true, what's kubuntu specific is | 22:56 |
| yofel | +Suggests: kde-workspace-bin, network-manager-vpnc, network-manager-openvpn, | 22:56 |
| yofel | + network-manager-pptp, network-manager-openconnect | 22:56 |
| yofel | and the breaks/replaces against kde-workspace-data which is future for debian | 22:56 |
| soee | is there something wring with networkmanager in RC1 ? | 22:58 |
| yofel | soee: shouldn't be, why? | 22:59 |
| soee | yofel, not on my laptop it disconnects me for a 2 seconds and connects again (atleast by icon status change i can assume that), last days i installed KDE on arch and there when downloading something big (heby network traffic) whole plasma crashed | 23:01 |
| soee | this might be coincident though | 23:01 |
| ari-tczew | yofel: conclusion: there is the whole remaining delta (d/changelog not included): http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916524/ | 23:03 |
| yofel | fine I think. debfx ^ ? | 23:04 |
| ari-tczew | it has to be still adapted to current unstable rev. of course | 23:04 |
| yofel | (changelog and maintainer need to be kept as well ofc.) | 23:04 |
| ari-tczew | sure | 23:04 |
| ari-tczew | it's pre-merge | 23:05 |
| ari-tczew | draft | 23:05 |
| debfx | yeah looks good so far | 23:08 |
| ari-tczew | debfx, yofel: should do I you both subscribe to merge bug? | 23:11 |
| debfx | yofel: of course installing desktop files without the corresponding binary (i.e. solid_modemmanager05.so) is not that useful ^^ | 23:11 |
| debfx | sure | 23:12 |
| yofel | eh, those are missing too? | 23:12 |
| debfx | yes | 23:13 |
| debfx | ari-tczew: could you please add that file to plasma-widget-networkmanagement.install? | 23:14 |
| debfx | (not related to the merge, but a fix for the last upload) | 23:14 |
| * yofel builds to look at list-missing | 23:14 | |
| ari-tczew | debfx: which one? | 23:14 |
| yofel | not goot -.- http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/knm_mm.png | 23:15 |
| yofel | *good | 23:15 |
| debfx | ari-tczew: usr/lib/kde4/solid_modemmanager05.so | 23:15 |
| debfx | yofel: it doesn't use dhmk so no list-missing | 23:16 |
| yofel | I'm still using the old pbuilder hook | 23:16 |
| ari-tczew | debfx: how should do I describe this one in d/changelog? | 23:16 |
| debfx | for example "Add missing solid_modemmanager05.so to the install file" | 23:17 |
| debfx | yofel: what does the hook do? | 23:17 |
| yofel | use CDBS iirc | 23:18 |
| yofel | debfx: http://paste.kde.org/p7b1a06c8/ | 23:18 |
| debfx | cdbs? I hope we don't have cdbs-using packages anymore ;) | 23:18 |
| debfx | ah ok | 23:19 |
| ScottK | So we need a new hook that doesn't need it. | 23:19 |
| debfx | overriding dh_install with --list-missing in networkmanager wouldn't be a bad idea | 23:20 |
| yofel | # list-missing files result: | 23:20 |
| yofel | -./usr/lib/kde4/solid_modemmanager05.so | 23:20 |
| yofel | and that's the only file that really should be installed so we're ok now | 23:20 |
| debfx | you might be able to misuse dhmk in a similar way | 23:21 |
| yofel | rest is just dev symlinks | 23:21 |
| * yofel checks what dhmk list-missing does | 23:22 | |
| debfx | basically create a list of files in debian/tmp, same for all debian/<pkg> and create a diff | 23:23 |
| ari-tczew | debfx: the queue in *.install file is important? can I add this one just at the end of file? | 23:23 |
| debfx | so nothing really depends on dhmk being used | 23:23 |
| ari-tczew | (I mean now usr/lib/kde4/solid_modemmanager05.so) | 23:24 |
| debfx | it doesn't matter for the end result but I'd keep the lines sorted | 23:26 |
| yofel | hm, am I doing something wrong if I try to call the target with 'make -f /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/list-missing.mk list-missing'? | 23:28 |
| yofel | all I get is: make: *** No rule to make target `list-missing'. Stop. | 23:28 |
| debfx | yofel: there is a "ifdef dqk_dir" in list-missing.mk | 23:31 |
| yofel | yes, there is. I'm tired -.- | 23:32 |
| yofel | thanks | 23:32 |
| yofel | http://paste.kde.org/pe6734594/ perfect | 23:33 |
| debfx | nice | 23:38 |
| * debfx copies that into his own set of hooks | 23:38 | |
| ari-tczew | hmmmm, I run update-maintainer and it changes Kubuntu Dev. to Ubuntu Dev. | 23:52 |
| ari-tczew | is it correct? | 23:52 |
| yofel | no, update-maintainer only works for ubuntu, not us | 23:52 |
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