[12:20] <Sweetsha1k> so ... I kept tracking the downloads of LibreOffice 4.1.0 from the ppa and it was trending nicely towards 26.000 downloads per day most of the time. 20 hours in it was a 22.000 downloads and right on track. But now somehow the number got halfed to ~13600.
[12:21] <Sweetsha1k> I can except downloads going slow, but negative download counts are countering my model of reality. Any hints?
[12:21] <Sweetsha1k> is the ppastats.py thingie known to be unreliable?
[12:23] <czajkowski> wgrant: StevenK ^
[12:23] <wgrant> Sweetsha1k: I don't know what ppastats.py is
[12:24] <wgrant> But I suspect that it is a Launchpad API client, and it is buggy.
[12:24] <wgrant> The Launchpad PPA download stats API does not return negative numbers.
[12:25] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: no, I dont get negative numbers. just download numbers that are smaller than before ;)
[12:25] <wgrant> What is this script?
[12:25] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: https://webupd8.googlecode.com/files/ppastats.py
[12:27] <wgrant> Sweetsha1k: Are you sure it's not just because you removed or superseded some packages?
[12:28] <wgrant> The API isn't buggy in a way that would cause that to happen.
[12:30] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: yes. Im looking at the download count of libreoffice-common_4.1.0-0ubuntu1~raring1~ppa1 -- its been put there yesterday at 1200UTC, was around ~16000 downloads at 1000UTC today and is at 8300 at 1200UTC today.
[12:30] <wgrant> Do you have script output that demonstrates that?
[12:31] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: And one does not simply walk a libreoffice packaging into Mordor ... eh, upload it to a ppa.
[12:31] <wgrant> Hhe
[12:33] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: unfortunately not. But I have been watching this the whole time and calculated the trend, which was pretty constant for the first 20 hours.
[12:33] <wgrant> Sweetsha1k: Which PPA?
[12:34] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: could it be that this adds numbers from multiple mirrors and one dropped of/rebooted/whatever?
[12:34] <wgrant> Sweetsha1k: No
[12:34] <StevenK> We don't have mulitple mirrors for PPAs
[12:34] <Sweetsha1k> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/
[12:34] <wgrant> It could possibly skip some downloads, but it cannot retroactively forget them
[12:35] <Sweetsha1k> one special thing is that the binaries are copied in there, not build in the ppa. (doing otherwise would be extremely painful for the users)
[12:40] <wgrant> Sweetsha1k: What's the value now?
[12:41] <Sweetsha1k> whops -- the 16000 number was for precise. So at 0800UTC today it was roughly 16000 precise, 6000 raring (=22000 total). Now its 8391 (precise) and 5307 (raring).
[12:42] <czajkowski> Sweetsha1k: it's never simple is it :)
[12:43] <Sweetsha1k> czajkowski: ;)
[12:44] <Sweetsha1k> czajkowski: hey, I just survived another LibreOffice major release. Each costs me 5 years of my life. I should consider becoming a vampire.
[12:56] <wgrant> Sweetsha1k: Nothing is obviously wrong. If you see it go backwards again, let me know and I'll be able to debug more deeply.
[12:58] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: willdo. I have a crobjob on it now -- so next time I should be able to give you a 15 minutes timeframe of when it happened.
[13:02] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: so Im not sure about the raring number having gone backwards, but the precise number certainly did -- and I find the 16000 => ~8000 looks suspiciously like a integer overflow. OTOH there are other packages with a 50000 download count in that ppa.
[13:46] <wgrant> Sweetsha1k: Heh, we don't use signed 16-bit integers anywhere :)
[14:19] <Sweetsha1k> wgrant: thats what everybody says!
[16:55] <rockstar> Who would be the losa on duty right now?
[16:55] <StevenK> rockstar: To do what ... ?
[16:55] <rockstar> StevenK, I need a mailman pickle export.
[16:57] <lamont> rockstar: wassup?
[16:57] <lamont> rockstar: a what?
[16:58] <rockstar> lamont, heh. Are you doing losa stuff now?
[16:58] <lamont> for about 5 weeks more, then we rotate
[16:58] <rockstar> I just need the pickle file from a launchpad mailing list.
[16:58] <lamont> what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:59] <lamont> not just because I'd neeed to change the passwords for that mailing list (assuming you aren't the admin)
[17:00] <rockstar> lamont, I am an admin for the group, but I recall it needing to be sterilized last time too.
[17:00] <rockstar> lamont, I'm migrating ~openstack to lists.openstack.org - I received a pickle a few months ago for testing, and now we're ready to pull the trigger.
[17:01] <lamont> ah, that makes sense.  can you throw something at rt for at least tracking etc?
[17:02] <lamont> (mail to rt@ubuntu.com, that is)
[17:02] <rockstar> lamont, okay.
[17:02] <lamont> deadline if any, etc, etc would be good
[17:10] <rockstar> lamont, the deadline is ASAP, though I didn't put that in the RT (sorry)
[17:13] <czajkowski> rockstar: love ASAP deadlines on a Friday :)
[17:13] <rockstar> czajkowski, I did it on a Friday specifically because it would mean low traffic on the list.
[17:13] <rockstar> …and last time, it only took about 90 minutes with losa interruption, so I didn't think much of it.
[17:13] <czajkowski> ah
[17:14] <rockstar> Of course, I didn't have to submit an RT last time either.
[17:15] <lamont> rockstar: it's more a function of some other ongoing stuff that's chewing up a bunch of webops time today, crossed with the approaching EOW.
[17:15] <rockstar> lamont, right. I guess my expectations were managed based on previous experiences.
[17:15] <lamont> meh
[17:15] <lamont> don't make me come over there... :D
[17:16] <czajkowski> heh
[17:31] <lamont> rockstar: openstack list, yes?
[17:31] <rockstar> lamont, right, attached to the ~openstack group