kdef | help | 02:15 |
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bazhang | with what | 02:15 |
kdef | I want to buy a keyboard with additional language on the keys.... only cheap one I found is a wireless bluetooth one... | 02:16 |
kdef | it would be ideal but I don't know if bluetooth works well in ubuntu or not | 02:16 |
kdef | any idea? | 02:16 |
bazhang | which version | 02:19 |
bazhang | this channel is for support of 13.10 | 02:20 |
kdef | I don't know... I keep updating but | 02:31 |
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BluesKaj | Hey folks | 13:12 |
smallfoot- | Why there is no openness and transparency? You can see no details on what's new in Ubuntu alpha | 15:02 |
smallfoot- | there are no news, notes, or anything | 15:02 |
smallfoot- | Also why can't you search for saucy packages on packages.ubuntu.com? | 15:03 |
IdleOne | packages.ubuntu.com only shows released versions. people using saucy should be experienced enough to know they can use apt-cache search to search for packages. | 15:06 |
wilee-nilee | smallfoot- The developments do not reach there until release | 15:06 |
IdleOne | as far as release notes goes. Saucy is in alpha, things may work great or they can all explode in a moment. | 15:08 |
smallfoot- | but why doesn't anyone fix packages.ubuntu.com so it works with unreleased versions too? any reason? | 15:08 |
bazhang | thats not something that needs fixing | 15:09 |
smallfoot- | I understand saucy is alpha, but in prior Ubuntu versions, there were always more information and release notes even on alphas | 15:09 |
IdleOne | yes, because then users with less experience might start using saucy packages in raring | 15:09 |
IdleOne | which is a bad idea | 15:09 |
smallfoot- | why is that such a bad idea? | 15:09 |
bazhang | release notes? release means... | 15:09 |
smallfoot- | I remember 12.10 used to have release notes on alphas | 15:10 |
IdleOne | smallfoot-: mixing packages from different versions can cause unexpected behaviour and bugs | 15:10 |
smallfoot- | IdleOne, then I think saucy packages should still be browsable, but it should be a <h1>Mixing packages form a different version can cause unexpected behaviour and bugs</h1> on the page | 15:10 |
IdleOne | smallfoot-: or experienced users can use the package managers and we don't have to risk users ignoring warnings | 15:11 |
smallfoot- | If users ignore warnings, then that is their fault | 15:12 |
IdleOne | I'll remember that next time you ask a support question :) | 15:12 |
smallfoot- | Anyone running saucy ? How does it work? | 15:13 |
IdleOne | you can download the iso and test it. | 15:13 |
ikonia | it's currently full of holes and all over the place. I'd advise you only play with it if you are very confident | 15:15 |
smallfoot- | Yeah, but I was wondering if anyone can say "Noooo!! don't do it! don't even think about it, it crashes every hour" or say "I've been using it for months, its rock-solid" | 15:16 |
smallfoot- | ikonia, I see! thanks! :) | 15:16 |
IdleOne | There is a big warning on the wiki that says " It works but may explode" <-paraphrasing | 15:16 |
IdleOne | also you have been testing +1 long enough to stop asking these questions every 6 months | 15:17 |
rymate1234 | hey guys | 15:17 |
smallfoot- | hey, do you know who i am? :D | 15:17 |
smallfoot- | hiya! :) | 15:18 |
rymate1234 | trying to get my wireless drivers from here https://code.google.com/p/realtek-8188cus-wireless-drivers-3444749-ubuntu-1304/ compiled on 13.10 | 15:18 |
smallfoot- | IdleOne, sometimes I've ran the alpha and beta and it been pretty bad, other times I've run and its been solid | 15:18 |
rymate1234 | however compiling nets me this error http://pastebin.com/28WYFHfp | 15:18 |
rymate1234 | how do I fix? | 15:18 |
ikonia | thats not going to work with your current kernel at this time | 15:20 |
rymate1234 | meh | 15:20 |
rymate1234 | what's the issue? | 15:20 |
ikonia | looks like quite a lot of issues, the main one I see is a reference to a function in a header that's different to what it expects | 15:21 |
ikonia | but there are a few other errors that maybe worse (but no obvious) and a few warnings which may cause problems | 15:21 |
rymate1234 | so I just have to wait for a fix? | 15:21 |
ikonia | well, not-ones going to fix it unless you feed back to it | 15:22 |
rymate1234 | I have done | 15:22 |
rymate1234 | was just wondering if there was a way to fix iy | 15:22 |
rymate1234 | *it | 15:22 |
rymate1234 | ah well | 15:22 |
ikonia | if you understand how it hooks into the kernel, it probably won't be that bad to change the reference it's making, | 15:23 |
ikonia | but that will need to be done either upstream or patched in the ubuntu kernel (doubtful) | 15:23 |
ikonia | it could be worse though as I'm only just glancing through your paste | 15:23 |
rymate1234 | ok | 15:24 |
rymate1234 | so could I potentially downgrade kernel? | 15:24 |
rymate1234 | or not | 15:24 |
ikonia | errr why would you do that ? | 15:25 |
ikonia | I'm not aware of 13.10 offering lower kernel versions | 15:25 |
DreamPCs | Hey guys, anyone know how I can change the screen timeout settings (when it blanks the display) in Ubuntu 13.10? | 18:19 |
Ampelbein | DreamPCs: "Ctrl-A :" "idle off" | 18:22 |
brainwash | Ampelbein: are you sure he is talking about (gnu) screen? | 18:25 |
Ampelbein | brainwash: oh. My word, I think you are right. Heh. | 18:26 |
DreamPCs | In a terminal? | 18:28 |
Ampelbein | DreamPCs: I was thinking you were talking about the program "screen". | 18:29 |
DreamPCs | Oh sorry, no I mean X (or I guess Mir in Ubuntu 13.10 | 18:30 |
Ampelbein | DreamPCs: I guess it depends on the desktop environment. | 18:30 |
DreamPCs | Unity | 18:30 |
Ampelbein | Don't know then. | 18:31 |
DreamPCs | Ok, thanks. | 18:31 |
Ampelbein | DreamPCs: A bit of googling unearthed http://askubuntu.com/questions/177348/how-do-i-disable-the-screensaver-lock-in-12-04 - does that work in 13.10 still? | 18:33 |
DreamPCs | Damn that was it! Thanks Ampelbein | 18:33 |
DreamPCs | I thought it was related to Mir and not Unity, I guess that's why I couldn't find any info on it. | 18:34 |
FernandoMiguel | bRoas | 18:40 |
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joshlegs | hi! | 21:43 |
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