| popey | hmm. i have the "battery gauge doesn't update in the panel" issue again on saucy | 01:23 |
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| popey | i suspect this is suspend/resume related | 01:23 |
| popey | i suspeneded when i was on power, and the indicator showed it was charging. I woke the laptop up just now, off power, and it still shows charging | 01:24 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 03:37 |
| RAOF | pitti: Uh, what! Are you up super-duper early? | 03:42 |
| pitti | RAOF: yeah, couldn't sleep any more after my wife got up | 03:43 |
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| ricotz | chrisccoulson, hi :), i hope you like to update firefox to 23b9 while saucy still is on b4, or maybe you have it in a ppa somewhere already | 06:37 |
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| tkamppeter | mlankhorst, hi | 07:14 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: hi! I guess I can safely publish the misc stack, as the changes recommended were approved by you, right? ;) | 07:22 |
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| sil2100 | didrocks: and in the case of, for instance, indicators where the build job failed because armhf failed to build of a chroot problem - should I re-run just the 'publish' job once its built or can I do it differently not to trigger the tests again? | 07:25 |
| didrocks | sil2100: sure sure, no need to double ack if it's the changes I approved :) | 07:26 |
| didrocks | sil2100: better rebuilding in the ppa | 07:26 |
| didrocks | sil2100: and rerun the whole stack with "foo" | 07:27 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: ok, too bad it will trigger the check job again, but well ;) | 07:27 |
| didrocks | sil2100: right, but at least, we know if there is a manual publicaiton in progress | 07:27 |
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| jibel | good morning | 07:33 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 07:36 |
| didrocks | jibel: FYI, the jenkins node was down on ati, I restarted it | 07:36 |
| jibel | didrocks, salut didrocks | 07:37 |
| didrocks | sil2100: jibel: I won't have the time at all to debug anything today, there is a delivery for IoM and I need to concentrate on that | 07:37 |
| jibel | didrocks, ah, that's probably becaue the machine has been restarted yesterday evening while debugging mir failures | 07:37 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: ACK! | 07:37 |
| jibel | didrocks, I'll investigate why it doesn't start automatically | 07:38 |
| jibel | as it should | 07:38 |
| didrocks | jibel: thanks! | 07:38 |
| sil2100 | jibel: yep, I guess well be doing some more of that today as well - can I poke you around for advice ;) | 07:38 |
| sil2100 | ? | 07:38 |
| jibel | sil2100, just poke and if I can advise I'll do :) | 07:40 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning | 07:41 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:42 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks chrisccoulson jibel sil2100, how is everyone? | 07:42 |
| didrocks | hey seb128! | 07:43 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, good thanks. how are you? | 07:43 |
| jibel | Salut seb128 , I'm fine thanks, you? | 07:45 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 07:46 |
| sil2100 | seb128: morning! | 07:51 |
| larsu | seb128: happy Friday! | 07:55 |
| seb128 | larsu, hey, happy friday to you too! | 07:56 |
| * larsu had one of those put-laptop-into-bagpack-even-though-it-was-not-suspended situations yesterday | 07:58 | |
| larsu | now I'm paranoid about it again ... it used to work so reliably :( | 07:58 |
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| lan3y | morning | 08:03 |
| lan3y | arg | 08:03 |
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| seb128 | Laney, hey | 08:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, you fall off the internet again during the night? | 08:04 |
| Laney | just this network apparently | 08:04 |
| seb128 | k | 08:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, happy friday in any case ;-) | 08:05 |
| Laney | yeah! that came around fast | 08:05 |
| Laney | happy friday | 08:05 |
| rickspencer3 | hi pitti | 08:19 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 08:19 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, I'm watching your mails about autopackging testing | 08:20 |
| rickspencer3 | do I understand correctly, that these are tests that in run in proposed? | 08:20 |
| rickspencer3 | and then packages don't get copied into the release pocket if they don't pass? | 08:20 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: correct; we use them as a gatekeeper for what is allowed to propagate to suacy | 08:20 |
| rickspencer3 | wow, we have a lot of CI | 08:20 |
| rickspencer3 | :) | 08:21 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: in general, yes; not just the packages themselves, also any of its rdepends | 08:21 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: i. e. if we upload a new gtk and that breaks ubiquity's tests, gtk won't propagate | 08:21 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, right | 08:21 |
| seb128 | (which is the case atm, it's blocked by a notify-osd test issue) | 08:21 |
| rickspencer3 | so we have gates in place at the developer level, at the team level (for Canonical developed upstreams) | 08:21 |
| rickspencer3 | then we have proposed, then we have the smoke tests | 08:21 |
| rickspencer3 | then we have phased updates | 08:22 |
| jibel | seb128, which started failing with latest gtk+3.0 upload | 08:22 |
| seb128 | jibel, it doesn't seem so | 08:23 |
| jibel | seb128, not latest but 3.8.2-3ubuntu1 | 08:23 |
| pitti | notify-osd is rather broken indeed; I tried some things yesterday (adding at-spi2-core dep, running under d-bus), but nothing helps; that needs someone who actually understands notify-osd | 08:23 |
| seb128 | notify-osd didn't change in years | 08:24 |
| seb128 | did those test ever work reliably? | 08:24 |
| jibel | they did until July 8th | 08:24 |
| seb128 | jibel, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/ suggest it broke around jul 16 | 08:24 |
| seb128 | but there was no gtk update around that date | 08:24 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks pitti | 08:24 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, so I guess we can't run auto-pilot tests as part of autopackage? | 08:25 |
| seb128 | jibel, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+changelog | 08:25 |
| pitti | seb128: it's complaining about not being able to connect to at-spi, so it might be somewhere else in the stack | 08:25 |
| seb128 | jibel, uploads were on the 8 and on the 23 ... tests started failing in between | 08:25 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: we can | 08:25 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: I even run ap tests as part of the package build now, in autopilot-gtk | 08:26 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: apparently I was the first one to try that, but it's working quite well | 08:26 |
| Laney | yeah #35 passed with -3ubuntuX | 08:26 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, any reason we shouldn't run all the tests that we use for smoke tests in -proposed? | 08:26 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: won't work for unity and other stuff that needs 3D | 08:27 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: this can only be xvfb | 08:27 |
| rickspencer3 | ah | 08:27 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: for 2D stuff it should work just fine | 08:27 |
| rickspencer3 | that seems like, long term, we could crack that problem | 08:27 |
| rickspencer3 | and then if we were running the tests there, our smoke tests would almost always be green | 08:27 |
| rickspencer3 | because we would be catching many more failures before even making the image | 08:27 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: well, ideally these wouldn't even land in -proposed nowadays as we run them on the upstream side already? | 08:28 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, right | 08:28 |
| rickspencer3 | so at each step, there is more integration | 08:28 |
| rickspencer3 | so some chance of a breakage | 08:28 |
| rickspencer3 | but at each step, 99% of the problems should be filtered out | 08:29 |
| jibel | seb128, right, and run on the 16th has been triggered by an upload of dbus | 08:29 |
| rickspencer3 | so, from the developer to the teams trunk to -proposed to the image | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, jibel, Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+changelog changed on the 16 ... maybe trying downgrading at-spi would be useful | 08:29 |
| * seb128 is going to let that to the Ubuntu GNOME guys to debug though, no time to spend trying to debug gtk atm, too much ubuntu touch work to do | 08:31 | |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, that one sounds plausible | 08:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, there were changes around upstart session as well: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/143250524/at-spi2-core_2.9.3-1_2.9.3-1ubuntu1.diff.gz | 08:32 |
| pitti | if notify-osd's test was fixed to use VERBOSE=yes, you could see the error (which is failing to start up at-spi) | 08:32 |
| seb128 | though that doesn't disable dbus activation or anything, so that should break | 08:32 |
| seb128 | *shouldn't* | 08:32 |
| pitti | seb128: the autopkgtest doesn't even start a d-bus | 08:32 |
| pitti | seb128: I tried that too, but when I run it under a session bus it hangs forever | 08:32 |
| pitti | at that point I gave up | 08:32 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:32 |
| seb128 | jibel, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html has the notify-osd test as RUNNING is that normal? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/ARCH=i386,label=adt/ ... the most recent run worked out on i386 | 08:34 |
| jibel | seb128, no it is not. looking | 08:35 |
| pitti | yes, indeed | 08:35 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll retry amd64 as well, just for fun | 08:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 08:35 |
| seb128 | can I retry those myself in some way? | 08:35 |
| pitti | seb128: if you have VPN access to the lab? | 08:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 08:36 |
| pitti | seb128: the "private jenkins" URL in the autopkgtest fail mails point to it | 08:36 |
| seb128 | but I only used it for cu2d stuff so far | 08:36 |
| pitti | http://10.98.0.1:8080/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/ | 08:36 |
| pitti | #40 -> matrix reloaded -> do it | 08:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, that shows amd64 as running atm | 08:36 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I kicked it | 08:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, so the "rebuild matrix" button on there? | 08:38 |
| pitti | seb128: oui | 08:38 |
| seb128 | (/me just looked on another job that is not building) | 08:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, merci! | 08:38 |
| pitti | seb128: or "build now", but matrix is if you only want to build one arch | 08:38 |
| pitti | seb128: you can watch it in realtime on http://10.98.0.1:8080/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/40/console FYI | 08:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, I've it on screen | 08:39 |
| seb128 | that's using otto right? | 08:39 |
| pitti | seb128: no | 08:40 |
| pitti | seb128: lp:auto-package-testing | 08:40 |
| seb128 | oh ok, I though the real time log was added by didrocks/jibel with the switch to otto | 08:40 |
| pitti | seb128: i. e. prepare-testbed and run-adt-rest, just what everybody else should be using | 08:40 |
| pitti | seb128: but a mere apt-get source notify-osd, build, make check reproduces it, too | 08:40 |
| jibel | seb128, we switched daily-release testing from utah to otto, this is different from package testing in proposed which uses autopkgtest | 08:42 |
| seb128 | jibel, right, I got slightly confused by the jenkins side ;-) | 08:42 |
| jibel | np, jenkins confuses me too :) | 08:43 |
| seb128 | nice to have real time log displayed in any case | 08:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, \o/ notify-osd # PASS: 1 | 08:43 |
| seb128 | # FAIL: 0 | 08:43 |
| seb128 | Finished: SUCCESS | 08:43 |
| pitti | nice | 08:44 |
| seb128 | green we are | 08:44 |
| seb128 | so maybe it was just the missing depends on at-spi which got added yesterday | 08:44 |
| pitti | so, something got fixed in the past two days :) | 08:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/0.9.35+13.10.20130725-0ubuntu1 | 08:44 |
| seb128 | " * Have the tests depend on at-spi2-core." | 08:44 |
| pitti | ah, indeed | 08:44 |
| seb128 | I guess something else was pulling it in before | 08:44 |
| pitti | seb128: but that sounds a bit wrong -- shouldn't the notify-osd binary depend on at-spi2-core instead, not just the test? | 08:45 |
| darkxst | seb128, pitti: Hey! | 08:46 |
| seb128 | darkxst, hey | 08:46 |
| pitti | hey darkxst | 08:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, at-spi is only for a11y, I'm not sure it's an hard depends to use notify-osd | 08:46 |
| darkxst | for alpha 2, we had two crashes that seem to be related to missing indicator packages bug 1204289 and 1204290 | 08:48 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1204289 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204289 | 08:48 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1204290 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "panel crashed with SIGSEGV in indicator_object_get_entries()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204290 | 08:48 |
| darkxst | ok to add dependencies to ubiquity? | 08:49 |
| seb128 | darkxst, that's not going to solve it | 08:49 |
| darkxst | why not? | 08:49 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ we need to teach ubiquity about new indicators, it's trying to load the old .so | 08:50 |
| seb128 | darkxst, ^ | 08:50 |
| seb128 | darkxst, because that files doesn't exist anymore | 08:50 |
| darkxst | seb128, we don't ship any indicators | 08:50 |
| seb128 | well, shipping some wouldn't help | 08:50 |
| seb128 | it tries to load a .so that doesn't exist anymore in the indicator-ng code | 08:50 |
| seb128 | (e.g the gmenu based one) | 08:50 |
| seb128 | ubiquity needs to learn the new format, same as unity-panel-service and indicator-applet | 08:51 |
| darkxst | ok i see, figured it was ubuntu GNOME specific, but perhpas not | 08:51 |
| seb128 | likely not | 08:51 |
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| larsu | seb128: which indicators does ubiquity use? (I'm guessing at least network and sound?) | 08:53 |
| larsu | and datetime | 08:53 |
| larsu | and session?! | 08:53 |
| seb128 | static const char* indicators[] = { | 08:53 |
| seb128 | "/usr/lib/indicators3/7/libsession.so", | 08:53 |
| seb128 | "/usr/lib/indicators3/7/libapplication.so", | 08:53 |
| seb128 | "/usr/lib/indicators3/7/libsoundmenu.so", | 08:53 |
| seb128 | NULL | 08:53 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ | 08:53 |
| darkxst | seb128, I didnt see any other reports from other flavours though | 08:54 |
| seb128 | larsu, they basically indicator_object_new_from_file() those | 08:54 |
| seb128 | darkxst, I guess there is not so many testers of a2 | 08:54 |
| seb128 | darkxst, and ubiquity-kde might not be impacted | 08:54 |
| seb128 | darkxst, but my reading of the code is that the session menu can't work atm | 08:55 |
| seb128 | it should be missing on all ubiquity-gtk flavors | 08:55 |
| larsu | seb128: thanks. Do you think it makes sense to have a ubuiquity profile instead of a static list in ubiquity? | 08:55 |
| seb128 | xnox, ^ opinion ? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | larsu, I would just go for the easiest, e.g hardcode the new filenames | 08:57 |
| seb128 | larsu, libindicator still work the same way? e.g you can call indicator_object_get_entries() etc on those? | 08:57 |
| larsu | seb128: I'm leaning towards that as well, but I don't like it... | 08:58 |
| seb128 | larsu, if you want to look at the code it's lp:ubiquity src/panel/panel.c | 08:58 |
| larsu | seb128: yes, the only thing that's different is that you need to parse the indicator file (with indicatorng, which is a subclass of indicatorobject) | 08:58 |
| seb128 | larsu, well, my understanding is that ubiquity is going to be rewritten in qml at some point | 08:58 |
| seb128 | larsu, so I wouldn't spend too much time on it making the code nice | 08:58 |
| larsu | seb128: well but then we'll carry the hack into the qml version, because we don't have proper profiles for it | 08:59 |
| larsu | also, we might want different menus on there | 08:59 |
| seb128 | larsu, let's see I'm all for proper installer profile, but ETOOMUCHTODO and let's get the phone profiles done first | 08:59 |
| seb128 | larsu, well your call if you want to do it the proper way | 08:59 |
| seb128 | but it's more important to land unitymenumodel | 08:59 |
| seb128 | maybe let's do the hack to unbreak it | 09:00 |
| larsu | seb128: HAHA first time I've seen ETOOMUCHTODO :) | 09:00 |
| * larsu loves that | 09:00 | |
| seb128 | and keep a bug about doing it the proper way in some weeks when we are over the "need to land stuff to unblock other people" | 09:00 |
| seb128 | larsu, ;-) | 09:00 |
| larsu | seb128: it's not that much work really, just many MRs (for the indicators, we only need 3 extra lines in the indicator files) | 09:00 |
| seb128 | larsu, do you want to do it (you are probably going to be the most efficient to do it since you know the libindicator changes best here) | 09:01 |
| seb128 | larsu, e.g should I assign it to you? | 09:01 |
| larsu | seb128: yes. I'll do it today. Prepare for some code reviews :P | 09:02 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:02 |
| seb128 | larsu, danke | 09:02 |
| seb128 | larsu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1204290 re-titled and assigned to you | 09:05 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1204290 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity needs to be updated for the new indicators" [High,Confirmed] | 09:05 |
| larsu | seb128: merci | 09:07 |
| darkxst | seb128, or I guess we could just disable the panel? obviously qml not going to work with our images | 09:07 |
| seb128 | darkxst, the qml stuff is not going to happen this cycle anyway ... disabling the panel doesn't seem great, it's easy enough to fix | 09:07 |
| * larsu wonders why we have so many implementations of the panel... | 09:08 | |
| seb128 | larsu, because we didn't have profiles in indicators to start :p | 09:08 |
| seb128 | also because neither ubiquity nor lightdm run unity (and they are used in flavor that don't want those depends) | 09:09 |
| seb128 | but yeah, it's suboptimal :/ | 09:09 |
| larsu | ah right | 09:10 |
| larsu | well, a library or something would have been cool | 09:10 |
| larsu | oh well, too late to fix now :) | 09:10 |
| seb128 | yeah :/ | 09:10 |
| seb128 | sil2100, hey, any reason the settings stack is still not published? | 09:11 |
| darkxst | seb128, ok | 09:11 |
| seb128 | sil2100, we are going to miss today's image if it's not waved through soon, that would be annoying | 09:11 |
| seb128 | hum, no sil2100 today? | 09:17 |
| sil2100 | seb128: here | 09:19 |
| sil2100 | seb128: hmm, ah | 09:19 |
| sil2100 | I know what happened | 09:19 |
| seb128 | sil2100, we have packaging changes, it's in manual publishing for sure | 09:19 |
| seb128 | sil2100, but aren't you guys supposed to review those early so they can make it on the image of the day? | 09:19 |
| sil2100 | seb128: dealing with that, it was green in the morning, but it seems it was blocked on something then ;/ | 09:19 |
| Laney | where are the stack statuses? | 09:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/ | 09:20 |
| seb128 | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Settings/ | 09:20 |
| Laney | cool | 09:20 |
| sil2100 | seb128: I was reviewing and releasing what I could in the morning, seems like I did it too early | 09:20 |
| sil2100 | seb128: as these are your changes, publishing | 09:20 |
| seb128 | sil2100, thanks | 09:20 |
| sil2100 | hmm, what the heck? | 09:21 |
| Laney | It'd be nice if all uploaders could do that | 09:21 |
| seb128 | sil2100, issue? | 09:22 |
| seb128 | sil2100, hello? | 09:27 |
| Laney | Just got the email - I guess it's working | 09:27 |
| sil2100 | seb128: had some tool issue, but not with sttings | 09:27 |
| sil2100 | *settings | 09:27 |
| seb128 | ok, good | 09:27 |
| seb128 | sil2100, thanks | 09:27 |
| sil2100 | Settings should be published | 09:27 |
| seb128 | yeah, what Laney said | 09:28 |
| sil2100 | seb128: you think you can approve a cu2d-config branch for me? | 09:42 |
| seb128 | sil2100, let me see the diff, depends if I understand what the change is about I guess ;-) | 09:42 |
| sil2100 | https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/phone_extra_pkgs/+merge/177114 <- a missing extra pkg to install ;p | 09:42 |
| seb128 | sil2100, seems like that list is in alphabetic order ... should you keep it this way? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | or not really | 09:47 |
| seb128 | seems it was and stuff got added in different order? | 09:47 |
| sil2100 | seb128: it doesn't have a particular order, I just added one package to the front | 09:47 |
| sil2100 | seb128: since we're usually adding it in the order the requirement pops up ;) | 09:48 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:48 |
| seb128 | sil2100, approved | 09:48 |
| sil2100 | seb128: thank you! Redeploying to unblock Phone | 09:48 |
| sil2100 | Although we're still blocked on SDK | 09:49 |
| mhr3_ | seb128, do you know how do i take non-black screenshots in s? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | mhr3_, take the phone out of your pocket, press the take a picture button? | 09:50 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 09:50 |
| mhr3_ | i know that ubuntu edge is black, but somehow i still like colors in my screenshots... i'm just oldfashioned | 09:50 |
| seb128 | mhr3_, screenshots work for me, not sure what's the issue for you | 09:50 |
| seb128 | mhr3_, do you run mir or system compositor or fancy stuff? | 09:50 |
| mhr3_ | seb128, no, all regular s | 09:51 |
| mhr3_ | seb128, no screenshots, no videocasts... aaah | 09:51 |
| mhr3_ | soon clipboard will stop working | 09:51 |
| seb128 | mhr3_, does it happen in a guest session? I had some issues after docking/undocking/changing screen layouts | 09:52 |
| seb128 | but it works atm | 09:52 |
| mhr3_ | let me check | 09:53 |
| mhr3_ | seb128, hmm, yea works in guest session | 09:53 |
| mhr3_ | seb128, the indicators don't though :) | 09:54 |
| larsu | seb128: same issue here | 10:03 |
| larsu | woah, sometimes logging out of the guest session drops me back into my session, not the lock scree | 10:06 |
| seb128 | not nice | 10:06 |
| seb128 | unlocked session? | 10:07 |
| larsu | yes | 10:07 |
| seb128 | :-( | 10:07 |
| larsu | but only about 1 i 3 times | 10:07 |
| seb128 | you should open a lightdm bug | 10:07 |
| seb128 | I saw that once yesterday but I was unsure | 10:07 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell has been doing refactoring recently, he probably broke something | 10:07 |
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| larsu | ah! It's a different issue | 10:11 |
| larsu | sometimes logging out takes a long time, so I switch to a VT to check if my computer is still reacting | 10:11 |
| larsu | switchig back to X drops me into my session, instead of the guest session | 10:11 |
| seb128 | yeah; logout delays are annoying | 10:12 |
| seb128 | it takes often minutes for me and I end up killing gnome-session | 10:13 |
| larsu | still, switching to a VT as guest and switching back should put you back into the guest session, right? | 10:13 |
| seb128 | larsu, how do you "switch back"? | 10:15 |
| seb128 | larsu, typically your session is vt7 (ctrl-alt-f7), guest is f8 | 10:15 |
| seb128 | larsu, there is no "X", there is one vt by user, starting at 7 for xorg, so first user 7, second 8, third 9 | 10:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, "I'd rather it was a property of whatever component it will come from in the end" | 10:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, you mean I should add the property declaration to UbuntuStorageAboutPanel{} in my case? | 10:17 |
| Laney | Yeah, rather than having it top-level | 10:17 |
| larsu | seb128: ah okay. I meant switching back to vt7, which is n't right apparently. But still, shouldn't my session be locked? | 10:18 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you think it's fine to do backend.string ? backend.string : "fallback"? | 10:18 |
| Laney | yes | 10:18 |
| seb128 | larsu, it should, that's an indicator-session bug if it's not locked, the indicator is supposed to call gnome-screensaver --lock between starting the guest | 10:19 |
| seb128 | larsu, bug charles I guess ;-) | 10:19 |
| seb128 | between->before | 10:19 |
| larsu | seb128: okay, will do. Thanks for clearing this up | 10:19 |
| seb128 | larsu, yw | 10:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok, I'm going to drop the property, the only reason I used it was to avoid calling the get-er twice | 10:20 |
| Laney | I'd expect the QML engine to cache it | 10:20 |
| Laney | or at least your cpp code | 10:20 |
| seb128 | ok, the cost in any case is low enough | 10:20 |
| seb128 | my cpp code does the usual if empty or null; then; else; return value | 10:21 |
| Laney | seems fine | 10:21 |
| larsu | seb128: filed a bug for charles (bug #1205273) | 10:27 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1205273 in Session Menu "Session is not locked when switching to guest session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1205273 | 10:27 |
| seb128 | larsu, thanks | 10:27 |
| darkxst | seb128, how is the ibus testing going? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | darkxst, I'm fine upload the new version, jbicha was supposed to see with the unity guys for a failing test though, dunno if that happened | 10:47 |
| darkxst | ok will chat with jbicha tomorrow then. | 10:48 |
| seb128 | ok, I will ping him later if he gets online today | 10:49 |
| seb128 | I want that one uploaded as well | 10:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/about-real-update-date/+merge/177128 btw (dropping the extra property we discussed earlier) | 10:49 |
| * seb128 lunch, brb | 10:49 | |
| Laney | seb128: I got two MPs? | 10:49 |
| Laney | I guess you cancelled one | 10:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, I had an unwanted change in there, I clean and resubmitted | 11:07 |
| seb128 | cleaned | 11:07 |
| Laney | ok | 11:08 |
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| sil2100 | seb128: can you do the same review for another stack? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/fix_extra_pkgs_webapp/+merge/177135 ;) ? | 11:22 |
| seb128 | sil2100, oh, done (sorry I did it and forgot to reply on IRC) | 11:35 |
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| sil2100 | seb128: thank you! | 11:39 |
| Laney | seb128: did you look into getting the last update data on desktop too? | 11:57 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, should I? | 11:57 |
| seb128 | that's a good point, I'm focussing on making those stuff work on the phone | 11:57 |
| Laney | might be nice | 11:58 |
| seb128 | but I guess it would be nice | 11:58 |
| Laney | I think you can get the mtime of /var/cache/apt | 11:58 |
| Laney | or maybe /var/lib/apt/lists | 11:58 |
| desrt | morning, peeps | 12:16 |
| Laney | saluton desrt. feliĉa vendredo :-) | 12:20 |
| desrt | Laney: bona homo! vi lernis! | 12:20 |
| desrt | estas bona lingvo, ĉu ne? | 12:20 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey | 12:22 |
| Laney | mi ne komprenas vin | 12:22 |
| Laney | (thanks wikipedia :P) | 12:22 |
| desrt | Laney: "dankon" | 12:22 |
| Laney | :-) | 12:23 |
| desrt | i'm starting to notice that esperanto is a gateway drug | 12:23 |
| desrt | i spent a bit of time yesterday deciding whether i should learn shavian or toki pona next | 12:23 |
| desrt | seriously.... | 12:23 |
| ogra_ | do vulcan | 12:23 |
| desrt | afaik, nobody ever speced out a vulcan language | 12:25 |
| desrt | if you like pointy ears, there is elvish from lord of the rings, though | 12:25 |
| ogra_ | http://home.comcast.net/~markg61/vlif.htm | 12:25 |
| desrt | oh dear lord | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | The Vulcan Language Institute® originally began in 1980 to | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | explore the languages of Vulcans on their homeworld and colonies. | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | the page looks like it hasnt been updated since | 12:27 |
| desrt | i guarantee it's been updated more recently than 1980... | 12:27 |
| davmor2 | desrt: I think you mis-spelt espresso there, in which case it's definitely a gateway drug man ;) | 12:27 |
| desrt | but ya... the look says 'not by much' | 12:27 |
| desrt | davmor2: i got a pot of the real stuff brewing now :) | 12:27 |
| desrt | davmor2: (incidentally, in my case... you're exactly correct.... i never drank coffee until a european friend convinced me to try espresso... now i drink all sorts of coffee) | 12:28 |
| Laney | soon you'll graduate to English Breakfast | 12:28 |
| Laney | the real real stuff | 12:28 |
| ogra_ | uuh | 12:28 |
| desrt | english breakfast is like earl grey taken down a notch | 12:29 |
| desrt | aint nobody got time for that | 12:29 |
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| Laney | I save the fancy stuff for special occasions | 12:30 |
| sil2100 | I need to drive home now, be back pretty soon! | 12:30 |
| davmor2 | desrt: I hope thanked them :) | 12:30 |
| desrt | in canada, we're fancy daily :) | 12:30 |
| Laney | just remembered there's some lapsang souchong downstairs | 12:31 |
| desrt | davmor2: actually, he was upset | 12:31 |
| desrt | davmor2: the slightly longer story is that he was living in canada for a couple of years and found the coffee here to be atrocious. particularly tim hortons. | 12:31 |
| davmor2 | Laney: Truck Stop English Breakfast is full graduation :) | 12:31 |
| desrt | he was german and he used some long-german-word for "dirty water left in the sink after you do the dishes" to describe this kind of coffee | 12:31 |
| desrt | i told him that i didn't like coffee and he said "no wonder you don't. coffee in this country sucks. you need to try the real thing..." | 12:32 |
| Laney | davmor2: yeah! The teaspoon has to stand up on its own | 12:32 |
| desrt | so the fact that by the end of it all, i was drinking the normal coffee..... he was a bit upset | 12:32 |
| davmor2 | Laney: :) | 12:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, reviewed your datetime changed, there is a tiny details on a string and bonus point if you rebase/make pot it | 13:00 |
| Laney | seb128: w00t, thanks | 13:35 |
| doomlord | how hard would it be to modify 'scale' to navigate desktops. basically i want to be able to do all window/desktop navigation with *one* hotkey+cursor keys | 13:41 |
| doomlord | eg activate 'scale', if you try to move offscreen, when walking the windows, it switches desktops. or make one hotkey toggle between expo/scale.. there are many ways it could be done | 13:42 |
| doomlord | mac osx mission control (without window-bundles) is perfect but relies on multitouch | 13:43 |
| tkamppeter | mlankhorst, hi | 13:54 |
| fginther | tedg, FYI, the pbuilderhook universe hook is available to use now | 14:39 |
| tedg | fginther, Great, thanks! | 14:44 |
| seb128 | larsu, do you know why qtcreator doesn't recognise GSettings ? | 15:02 |
| seb128 | it underlines it in red when you do GSettings {} | 15:02 |
| larsu | seb128: oh, no clue, I don't use qtcreator. Does it give you an error message? | 15:03 |
| seb128 | "Unknown component. (M300)" | 15:03 |
| larsu | hm, how helpful | 15:04 |
| seb128 | larsu, don't bother about it | 15:04 |
| seb128 | I will have a look | 15:04 |
| seb128 | I wanted to check if that's a known issue before spending time looking at it | 15:04 |
| larsu | seb128: thanks. I've just started with the ubiquity work... it was a crazy day | 15:04 |
| seb128 | larsu, are there other days at Canonical? ;-) | 15:05 |
| larsu | seb128: ya, weekends :D | 15:05 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:05 |
| jbicha | hmm, that notify-osd worked today and not yesterday is rather suspicious, build 39 should have been the same as build 40 | 15:56 |
| jbicha | oh, it looks like #39 passed on i386 but not amd64; that makes a bit more sense | 15:58 |
| Laney | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/39/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/ | 15:58 |
| Laney | it ran against the old version | 15:58 |
| jbicha | it shouldn't work that way... | 15:59 |
| larsu | darkxst: do you know how I can test ubiquity's panel? Starting it gives me a grey window over half my screen | 16:00 |
| jbicha | seb128: for the ibus unity tests, see bug 1203106 | 16:05 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1203106 in unity (Ubuntu) "Rewrite ibus test for ibus 1.5" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203106 | 16:05 |
| seb128 | jbicha, good work on fixing notify-osd | 16:08 |
| seb128 | jbicha, seems like we need bschaefer to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1204210 before updating ibus then? | 16:09 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1204210 in unity (Ubuntu) "Refactor unity/nux to the new ibus 1.5 changes" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:09 |
| seb128 | bregma, bschaefer: hey, is ^ correct? | 16:09 |
| seb128 | tedg, ^ btw, you were watching the status | 16:10 |
| bschaefer | seb128,yup! I have a branch, but its getting a bit hard to be consistent | 16:10 |
| bschaefer | seb128, well that bug can wait | 16:10 |
| seb128 | bschaefer, is that going to create user visible problems? | 16:10 |
| bschaefer | seb128, mainly I need to fix up the tests, which once they are passing, ibus is working fine | 16:10 |
| bschaefer | seb128, nope, the only visible problems are addressed in the moving unity tests to ibu 1.5 | 16:11 |
| seb128 | bschaefer, what about the refactoring/signal? is that tests only? | 16:11 |
| seb128 | ok, great | 16:11 |
| seb128 | do you have any eta on that? | 16:11 |
| bschaefer | seb128, it needs to be refactor and there is a big error/warning I want to comment out in nux, but it doesn't create much of a problem | 16:11 |
| bschaefer | seb128, im hoping by today but getting someone to test it always take a bit of time | 16:12 |
| bschaefer | as it'll fail on one machine for no reason :( | 16:12 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:12 |
| jbicha | bschaefer: do we need to land ibus in -proposed before your merges will work? | 16:12 |
| bschaefer | jbicha, hmm if ibus is not 1.5 with the change I make might cause them to fail on current ibus... | 16:13 |
| bschaefer | as I've had to change lp:autopilot to not restart ibus each time we switch engines...as ibus is always on in 1.5 (which is a bit of a big change in behaviour) | 16:15 |
| jbicha | ok, would Monday be good for uploading ibus 1.5? we could hold it in -proposed for a few days if necessary | 16:20 |
| bschaefer | yeah, that would sounds good, but right now ibus 1.5 works well with unity | 16:21 |
| bschaefer | jbicha, the only regression I saw is a super minor one | 16:22 |
| jbicha | nux will need to be rebuilt against the new ibus (soname bump) so its autopkgtest will have to pass before ibus migrates out of proposed | 16:29 |
| bschaefer | alright, which I should get that branch merged for nux soon as well | 16:44 |
| * Laney cuts qt | 16:44 | |
| Laney | sort the model! SORT IT! | 16:44 |
| didrocks_busy | mpt: hey! | 16:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, didn't you master sorting earlier in the week? | 16:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, oh, no, that was filtering | 16:47 |
| didrocks_busy | mpt: so, I just somewhat build a demo for the update system panel for the phone | 16:47 |
| didrocks_busy | mpt: I would appreciate a real mpt design if possible (with an awesome font ;)) | 16:47 |
| czajkowski | didrocks_busy: as you do in your spare time :) | 16:47 |
| didrocks_busy | I guess we'll talk about it on the IoM | 16:47 |
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| didrocks | czajkowski: yeah, that was the part that made my buffer overflowed today :p | 16:48 |
| mpt | jbicha, awesome. :-) Seems we need to reconsider that rule. Perhaps show only the ~3 most-recently-used players? | 16:48 |
| czajkowski | didrocks: your reward is the weekend off! | 16:48 |
| mpt | didrocks, will you be at the sprint? | 16:49 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: not a full week-end as travelling! | 16:49 |
| didrocks | mpt: yeah, I'll take some fresh air ;) | 16:49 |
| mpt | didrocks, ok, let's look at it there | 16:49 |
| didrocks | agreed :) | 16:49 |
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| czajkowski | didrocks: no rest for the wicked! | 16:54 |
| didrocks | heh | 16:54 |
| jbicha | mpt: I don't use the sound menu (or webapps) enough to really have an opinion on that | 16:54 |
| * didrocks waves good evening and good week-end! | 17:03 | |
| jbicha | seb128: is Sunday night/Monday morning ok for ibus or do you want to discuss it more next week? | 17:06 |
| seb128 | jbicha, feel free to upload when you feel it's ready, it's going to stay in proposed until we get an unity landing next week anyway | 17:07 |
| jbicha | and we'll need indicator-keyboard MIR'ed | 17:13 |
| jbicha | seb128: do you still need the normal mir paperwork for pre-mir stuff? | 17:19 |
| Laney | bah I can't make this stupid thing sort | 17:20 |
| Laney | I'll try again on Monday | 17:20 |
| Laney | it calls sort() but the view doesn't get updated | 17:20 |
| seb128 | jbicha, define "pre-mir" stuff? | 17:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, is that the tz list? | 17:25 |
| Laney | yeah | 17:25 |
| Laney | I made it fetch the data in a worker thread | 17:25 |
| Laney | so I want it to sort as they come in | 17:25 |
| Laney | QSortFilterProxyModel is supposed to do that but I can't get it to | 17:26 |
| seb128 | I've no experience with that | 17:27 |
| seb128 | I guess it works if you load/fill the model and then sort it? | 17:27 |
| jbicha | seb128: for the phone stuff, y'all have done quite a few pre-new and pre-mir checks, right? | 17:28 |
| Laney | yes that's what it does currently | 17:29 |
| seb128 | jbicha, right, they still need Mir bugs | 17:32 |
| seb128 | MIR rather | 17:32 |
| seb128 | we didn't review the keyboard indicator I think | 17:32 |
| seb128 | not for MIR for sure | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | it's nearly the weekend! | 17:33 |
| Laney | it already is :P | 17:33 |
| Laney | stop working | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 17:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i wish it was *that* easy to stop working | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i should go and get some beer? | 17:35 |
| sarnold | beer beer beer steak steak steak | 17:35 |
| Laney | spoken like a desktop team member | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 17:37 |
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| attente | mterry, hey | 17:56 |
| attente | i'm wondering if you have anything to comment about https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-gtk-module/unset-ubuntu-menuproxy/+merge/172624 | 17:56 |
| mterry | attente, hello | 17:57 |
| attente | mainly re: what the right thing to do is when UBUNTU_MENUPROXY is unset | 17:57 |
| mterry | looking | 17:59 |
| mterry | attente, uh... do we have instances of people being bit by an unset UBUNTU_MENUPROXY? Or docs floating in wild that suggest unsetting it? | 18:01 |
| mterry | attente, I've always seen "export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 or UBUNTU_MENUXPROXY=" | 18:01 |
| attente | mterry, there's nothing documenting the behaviour of an unset UBUNTU_MENUPROXY right now | 18:02 |
| mterry | attente, sure, nothing official. But I didn't know if it was a common thing for people to do, like some website somewhere recommended it | 18:02 |
| mterry | attente, I thought we wanted UBUNTU_MENUPROXY to die? This would make that harder | 18:02 |
| attente | mterry, yes, that's true | 18:03 |
| attente | i don't think it's a common thing, but charles seems to be getting bit by it | 18:03 |
| mterry | attente, charles? | 18:04 |
| mterry | attente, if it's just something he's doing, maybe correct him. But if it's something he's doing because of an omgubuntu.co.uk article, maybe we should support this | 18:04 |
| attente | sorry, charles in #systems | 18:05 |
| attente | mterry, ok | 18:05 |
| mterry | attente, I'm just leery of putting ourselves in a position where we have to set UBUNTU_MENUPROXY to some dummy value for our stuff to work, rather than gracefully sunsetting the variable | 18:05 |
| mterry | attente, but ::shrug:: | 18:05 |
| attente | mterry, ok, thanks :) | 18:06 |
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| jbicha | xnox: are you going to guadec? | 19:10 |
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| darkxst | larsu, you can run ubiquity-dm from a vt, then you will get a new X session just like at boot | 21:38 |
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