[01:23] hmm. i have the "battery gauge doesn't update in the panel" issue again on saucy [01:23] i suspect this is suspend/resume related [01:24] i suspeneded when i was on power, and the indicator showed it was charging. I woke the laptop up just now, off power, and it still shows charging === FJKong is now known as FJKong_afk === FJKong_afk is now known as FJKong [03:37] Good morning [03:42] pitti: Uh, what! Are you up super-duper early? [03:43] RAOF: yeah, couldn't sleep any more after my wife got up === FJKong is now known as FJKong_afk === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [06:37] chrisccoulson, hi :), i hope you like to update firefox to 23b9 while saucy still is on b4, or maybe you have it in a ppa somewhere already === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter [07:14] mlankhorst, hi [07:22] didrocks: hi! I guess I can safely publish the misc stack, as the changes recommended were approved by you, right? ;) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [07:25] didrocks: and in the case of, for instance, indicators where the build job failed because armhf failed to build of a chroot problem - should I re-run just the 'publish' job once its built or can I do it differently not to trigger the tests again? [07:26] sil2100: sure sure, no need to double ack if it's the changes I approved :) [07:26] sil2100: better rebuilding in the ppa [07:27] sil2100: and rerun the whole stack with "foo" [07:27] didrocks: ok, too bad it will trigger the check job again, but well ;) [07:27] sil2100: right, but at least, we know if there is a manual publicaiton in progress === maxb_ is now known as maxb [07:33] good morning [07:36] salut jibel [07:36] jibel: FYI, the jenkins node was down on ati, I restarted it [07:37] didrocks, salut didrocks [07:37] sil2100: jibel: I won't have the time at all to debug anything today, there is a delivery for IoM and I need to concentrate on that [07:37] didrocks, ah, that's probably becaue the machine has been restarted yesterday evening while debugging mir failures [07:37] didrocks: ACK! [07:38] didrocks, I'll investigate why it doesn't start automatically [07:38] as it should [07:38] jibel: thanks! [07:38] jibel: yep, I guess well be doing some more of that today as well - can I poke you around for advice ;) [07:38] ? [07:40] sil2100, just poke and if I can advise I'll do :) [07:41] good morning [07:42] good morning desktopers [07:42] hey didrocks chrisccoulson jibel sil2100, how is everyone? [07:43] hey seb128! [07:43] seb128, yeah, good thanks. how are you? [07:45] Salut seb128 , I'm fine thanks, you? [07:46] I'm good thanks [07:51] seb128: morning! [07:55] seb128: happy Friday! [07:56] larsu, hey, happy friday to you too! [07:58] * larsu had one of those put-laptop-into-bagpack-even-though-it-was-not-suspended situations yesterday [07:58] now I'm paranoid about it again ... it used to work so reliably :( === didrocks is now known as didrocks_reallyb === didrocks_reallyb is now known as didrocks_busy [08:03] morning [08:03] arg === lan3y is now known as Laney [08:04] Laney, hey [08:04] Laney, you fall off the internet again during the night? [08:04] just this network apparently [08:05] k [08:05] Laney, happy friday in any case ;-) [08:05] yeah! that came around fast [08:05] happy friday [08:19] hi pitti [08:19] hey rickspencer3 [08:20] pitti, I'm watching your mails about autopackging testing [08:20] do I understand correctly, that these are tests that in run in proposed? [08:20] and then packages don't get copied into the release pocket if they don't pass? [08:20] rickspencer3: correct; we use them as a gatekeeper for what is allowed to propagate to suacy [08:20] wow, we have a lot of CI [08:21] :) [08:21] rickspencer3: in general, yes; not just the packages themselves, also any of its rdepends [08:21] rickspencer3: i. e. if we upload a new gtk and that breaks ubiquity's tests, gtk won't propagate [08:21] pitti, right [08:21] (which is the case atm, it's blocked by a notify-osd test issue) [08:21] so we have gates in place at the developer level, at the team level (for Canonical developed upstreams) [08:21] then we have proposed, then we have the smoke tests [08:22] then we have phased updates [08:22] seb128, which started failing with latest gtk+3.0 upload [08:23] jibel, it doesn't seem so [08:23] seb128, not latest but 3.8.2-3ubuntu1 [08:23] notify-osd is rather broken indeed; I tried some things yesterday (adding at-spi2-core dep, running under d-bus), but nothing helps; that needs someone who actually understands notify-osd [08:24] notify-osd didn't change in years [08:24] did those test ever work reliably? [08:24] they did until July 8th [08:24] jibel, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/ suggest it broke around jul 16 [08:24] but there was no gtk update around that date [08:24] thanks pitti [08:25] pitti, so I guess we can't run auto-pilot tests as part of autopackage? [08:25] jibel, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+changelog [08:25] seb128: it's complaining about not being able to connect to at-spi, so it might be somewhere else in the stack [08:25] jibel, uploads were on the 8 and on the 23 ... tests started failing in between [08:25] rickspencer3: we can [08:26] rickspencer3: I even run ap tests as part of the package build now, in autopilot-gtk [08:26] rickspencer3: apparently I was the first one to try that, but it's working quite well [08:26] yeah #35 passed with -3ubuntuX [08:26] pitti, any reason we shouldn't run all the tests that we use for smoke tests in -proposed? [08:27] rickspencer3: won't work for unity and other stuff that needs 3D [08:27] rickspencer3: this can only be xvfb [08:27] ah [08:27] rickspencer3: for 2D stuff it should work just fine [08:27] that seems like, long term, we could crack that problem [08:27] and then if we were running the tests there, our smoke tests would almost always be green [08:27] because we would be catching many more failures before even making the image [08:28] rickspencer3: well, ideally these wouldn't even land in -proposed nowadays as we run them on the upstream side already? [08:28] pitti, right [08:28] so at each step, there is more integration [08:28] so some chance of a breakage [08:29] but at each step, 99% of the problems should be filtered out [08:29] seb128, right, and run on the 16th has been triggered by an upload of dbus [08:29] so, from the developer to the teams trunk to -proposed to the image [08:29] pitti, jibel, Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+changelog changed on the 16 ... maybe trying downgrading at-spi would be useful [08:31] * seb128 is going to let that to the Ubuntu GNOME guys to debug though, no time to spend trying to debug gtk atm, too much ubuntu touch work to do [08:31] seb128: yeah, that one sounds plausible [08:32] pitti, there were changes around upstart session as well: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/143250524/at-spi2-core_2.9.3-1_2.9.3-1ubuntu1.diff.gz [08:32] if notify-osd's test was fixed to use VERBOSE=yes, you could see the error (which is failing to start up at-spi) [08:32] though that doesn't disable dbus activation or anything, so that should break [08:32] *shouldn't* [08:32] seb128: the autopkgtest doesn't even start a d-bus [08:32] seb128: I tried that too, but when I run it under a session bus it hangs forever [08:32] at that point I gave up [08:32] hum [08:34] jibel, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html has the notify-osd test as RUNNING is that normal? [08:34] pitti, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/ARCH=i386,label=adt/ ... the most recent run worked out on i386 [08:35] seb128, no it is not. looking [08:35] yes, indeed [08:35] seb128: I'll retry amd64 as well, just for fun [08:35] pitti, thanks [08:35] can I retry those myself in some way? [08:36] seb128: if you have VPN access to the lab? [08:36] pitti, yes [08:36] seb128: the "private jenkins" URL in the autopkgtest fail mails point to it [08:36] but I only used it for cu2d stuff so far [08:36] http://10.98.0.1:8080/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/ [08:36] #40 -> matrix reloaded -> do it [08:36] pitti, ok, that shows amd64 as running atm [08:37] seb128: yes, I kicked it [08:38] pitti, ok, so the "rebuild matrix" button on there? [08:38] seb128: oui [08:38] (/me just looked on another job that is not building) [08:38] pitti, merci! [08:38] seb128: or "build now", but matrix is if you only want to build one arch [08:39] seb128: you can watch it in realtime on http://10.98.0.1:8080/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/40/console FYI [08:39] pitti, yeah, I've it on screen [08:39] that's using otto right? [08:40] seb128: no [08:40] seb128: lp:auto-package-testing [08:40] oh ok, I though the real time log was added by didrocks/jibel with the switch to otto [08:40] seb128: i. e. prepare-testbed and run-adt-rest, just what everybody else should be using [08:40] seb128: but a mere apt-get source notify-osd, build, make check reproduces it, too [08:42] seb128, we switched daily-release testing from utah to otto, this is different from package testing in proposed which uses autopkgtest [08:42] jibel, right, I got slightly confused by the jenkins side ;-) [08:43] np, jenkins confuses me too :) [08:43] nice to have real time log displayed in any case [08:43] pitti, \o/ notify-osd # PASS: 1 [08:43] # FAIL: 0 [08:43] Finished: SUCCESS [08:44] nice [08:44] green we are [08:44] so maybe it was just the missing depends on at-spi which got added yesterday [08:44] so, something got fixed in the past two days :) [08:44] pitti, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/0.9.35+13.10.20130725-0ubuntu1 [08:44] " * Have the tests depend on at-spi2-core." [08:44] ah, indeed [08:44] I guess something else was pulling it in before [08:45] seb128: but that sounds a bit wrong -- shouldn't the notify-osd binary depend on at-spi2-core instead, not just the test? [08:46] seb128, pitti: Hey! [08:46] darkxst, hey [08:46] hey darkxst [08:46] pitti, well, at-spi is only for a11y, I'm not sure it's an hard depends to use notify-osd [08:48] for alpha 2, we had two crashes that seem to be related to missing indicator packages bug 1204289 and 1204290 [08:48] Launchpad bug 1204289 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204289 [08:48] Launchpad bug 1204290 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "panel crashed with SIGSEGV in indicator_object_get_entries()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204290 [08:49] ok to add dependencies to ubiquity? [08:49] darkxst, that's not going to solve it [08:49] why not? [08:50] larsu, ^ we need to teach ubiquity about new indicators, it's trying to load the old .so [08:50] darkxst, ^ [08:50] darkxst, because that files doesn't exist anymore [08:50] seb128, we don't ship any indicators [08:50] well, shipping some wouldn't help [08:50] it tries to load a .so that doesn't exist anymore in the indicator-ng code [08:50] (e.g the gmenu based one) [08:51] ubiquity needs to learn the new format, same as unity-panel-service and indicator-applet [08:51] ok i see, figured it was ubuntu GNOME specific, but perhpas not [08:51] likely not === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [08:53] seb128: which indicators does ubiquity use? (I'm guessing at least network and sound?) [08:53] and datetime [08:53] and session?! [08:53] static const char* indicators[] = { [08:53] "/usr/lib/indicators3/7/libsession.so", [08:53] "/usr/lib/indicators3/7/libapplication.so", [08:53] "/usr/lib/indicators3/7/libsoundmenu.so", [08:53] NULL [08:53] larsu, ^ [08:54] seb128, I didnt see any other reports from other flavours though [08:54] larsu, they basically indicator_object_new_from_file() those [08:54] darkxst, I guess there is not so many testers of a2 [08:54] darkxst, and ubiquity-kde might not be impacted [08:55] darkxst, but my reading of the code is that the session menu can't work atm [08:55] it should be missing on all ubiquity-gtk flavors [08:55] seb128: thanks. Do you think it makes sense to have a ubuiquity profile instead of a static list in ubiquity? [08:56] xnox, ^ opinion ? [08:57] larsu, I would just go for the easiest, e.g hardcode the new filenames [08:57] larsu, libindicator still work the same way? e.g you can call indicator_object_get_entries() etc on those? [08:58] seb128: I'm leaning towards that as well, but I don't like it... [08:58] larsu, if you want to look at the code it's lp:ubiquity src/panel/panel.c [08:58] seb128: yes, the only thing that's different is that you need to parse the indicator file (with indicatorng, which is a subclass of indicatorobject) [08:58] larsu, well, my understanding is that ubiquity is going to be rewritten in qml at some point [08:58] larsu, so I wouldn't spend too much time on it making the code nice [08:59] seb128: well but then we'll carry the hack into the qml version, because we don't have proper profiles for it [08:59] also, we might want different menus on there [08:59] larsu, let's see I'm all for proper installer profile, but ETOOMUCHTODO and let's get the phone profiles done first [08:59] larsu, well your call if you want to do it the proper way [08:59] but it's more important to land unitymenumodel [09:00] maybe let's do the hack to unbreak it [09:00] seb128: HAHA first time I've seen ETOOMUCHTODO :) [09:00] * larsu loves that [09:00] and keep a bug about doing it the proper way in some weeks when we are over the "need to land stuff to unblock other people" [09:00] larsu, ;-) [09:00] seb128: it's not that much work really, just many MRs (for the indicators, we only need 3 extra lines in the indicator files) [09:01] larsu, do you want to do it (you are probably going to be the most efficient to do it since you know the libindicator changes best here) [09:01] larsu, e.g should I assign it to you? [09:02] seb128: yes. I'll do it today. Prepare for some code reviews :P [09:02] ;-) [09:02] larsu, danke [09:05] larsu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1204290 re-titled and assigned to you [09:05] Ubuntu bug 1204290 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity needs to be updated for the new indicators" [High,Confirmed] [09:07] seb128: merci [09:07] seb128, or I guess we could just disable the panel? obviously qml not going to work with our images [09:07] darkxst, the qml stuff is not going to happen this cycle anyway ... disabling the panel doesn't seem great, it's easy enough to fix [09:08] * larsu wonders why we have so many implementations of the panel... [09:08] larsu, because we didn't have profiles in indicators to start :p [09:09] also because neither ubiquity nor lightdm run unity (and they are used in flavor that don't want those depends) [09:09] but yeah, it's suboptimal :/ [09:10] ah right [09:10] well, a library or something would have been cool [09:10] oh well, too late to fix now :) [09:10] yeah :/ [09:11] sil2100, hey, any reason the settings stack is still not published? [09:11] seb128, ok [09:11] sil2100, we are going to miss today's image if it's not waved through soon, that would be annoying [09:17] hum, no sil2100 today? [09:19] seb128: here [09:19] seb128: hmm, ah [09:19] I know what happened [09:19] sil2100, we have packaging changes, it's in manual publishing for sure [09:19] sil2100, but aren't you guys supposed to review those early so they can make it on the image of the day? [09:19] seb128: dealing with that, it was green in the morning, but it seems it was blocked on something then ;/ [09:19] where are the stack statuses? [09:20] Laney, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/ [09:20] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Settings/ [09:20] cool [09:20] seb128: I was reviewing and releasing what I could in the morning, seems like I did it too early [09:20] seb128: as these are your changes, publishing [09:20] sil2100, thanks [09:21] hmm, what the heck? [09:21] It'd be nice if all uploaders could do that [09:22] sil2100, issue? [09:27] sil2100, hello? [09:27] Just got the email - I guess it's working [09:27] seb128: had some tool issue, but not with sttings [09:27] *settings [09:27] ok, good [09:27] sil2100, thanks [09:27] Settings should be published [09:28] yeah, what Laney said [09:42] seb128: you think you can approve a cu2d-config branch for me? [09:42] sil2100, let me see the diff, depends if I understand what the change is about I guess ;-) [09:42] https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/phone_extra_pkgs/+merge/177114 <- a missing extra pkg to install ;p [09:46] sil2100, seems like that list is in alphabetic order ... should you keep it this way? [09:47] or not really [09:47] seems it was and stuff got added in different order? [09:47] seb128: it doesn't have a particular order, I just added one package to the front [09:48] seb128: since we're usually adding it in the order the requirement pops up ;) [09:48] ok [09:48] sil2100, approved [09:48] seb128: thank you! Redeploying to unblock Phone [09:49] Although we're still blocked on SDK [09:49] seb128, do you know how do i take non-black screenshots in s? [09:50] mhr3_, take the phone out of your pocket, press the take a picture button? [09:50] ;) [09:50] i know that ubuntu edge is black, but somehow i still like colors in my screenshots... i'm just oldfashioned [09:50] mhr3_, screenshots work for me, not sure what's the issue for you [09:50] mhr3_, do you run mir or system compositor or fancy stuff? [09:51] seb128, no, all regular s [09:51] seb128, no screenshots, no videocasts... aaah [09:51] soon clipboard will stop working [09:52] mhr3_, does it happen in a guest session? I had some issues after docking/undocking/changing screen layouts [09:52] but it works atm [09:53] let me check [09:53] seb128, hmm, yea works in guest session [09:54] seb128, the indicators don't though :) [10:03] seb128: same issue here [10:06] woah, sometimes logging out of the guest session drops me back into my session, not the lock scree [10:06] not nice [10:07] unlocked session? [10:07] yes [10:07] :-( [10:07] but only about 1 i 3 times [10:07] you should open a lightdm bug [10:07] I saw that once yesterday but I was unsure [10:07] robert_ancell has been doing refactoring recently, he probably broke something === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [10:11] ah! It's a different issue [10:11] sometimes logging out takes a long time, so I switch to a VT to check if my computer is still reacting [10:11] switchig back to X drops me into my session, instead of the guest session [10:12] yeah; logout delays are annoying [10:13] it takes often minutes for me and I end up killing gnome-session [10:13] still, switching to a VT as guest and switching back should put you back into the guest session, right? [10:15] larsu, how do you "switch back"? [10:15] larsu, typically your session is vt7 (ctrl-alt-f7), guest is f8 [10:16] larsu, there is no "X", there is one vt by user, starting at 7 for xorg, so first user 7, second 8, third 9 [10:16] Laney, "I'd rather it was a property of whatever component it will come from in the end" [10:17] Laney, you mean I should add the property declaration to UbuntuStorageAboutPanel{} in my case? [10:17] Yeah, rather than having it top-level [10:18] seb128: ah okay. I meant switching back to vt7, which is n't right apparently. But still, shouldn't my session be locked? [10:18] Laney, do you think it's fine to do backend.string ? backend.string : "fallback"? [10:18] yes [10:19] larsu, it should, that's an indicator-session bug if it's not locked, the indicator is supposed to call gnome-screensaver --lock between starting the guest [10:19] larsu, bug charles I guess ;-) [10:19] between->before [10:19] seb128: okay, will do. Thanks for clearing this up [10:19] larsu, yw [10:20] Laney, ok, I'm going to drop the property, the only reason I used it was to avoid calling the get-er twice [10:20] I'd expect the QML engine to cache it [10:20] or at least your cpp code [10:20] ok, the cost in any case is low enough [10:21] my cpp code does the usual if empty or null; then; else; return value [10:21] seems fine [10:27] seb128: filed a bug for charles (bug #1205273) [10:27] Launchpad bug 1205273 in Session Menu "Session is not locked when switching to guest session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1205273 [10:27] larsu, thanks [10:46] seb128, how is the ibus testing going? [10:47] darkxst, I'm fine upload the new version, jbicha was supposed to see with the unity guys for a failing test though, dunno if that happened [10:48] ok will chat with jbicha tomorrow then. [10:49] ok, I will ping him later if he gets online today [10:49] I want that one uploaded as well [10:49] Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/about-real-update-date/+merge/177128 btw (dropping the extra property we discussed earlier) [10:49] * seb128 lunch, brb [10:49] seb128: I got two MPs? [10:50] I guess you cancelled one [11:07] Laney, yeah, I had an unwanted change in there, I clean and resubmitted [11:07] cleaned [11:08] ok === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:22] seb128: can you do the same review for another stack? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/fix_extra_pkgs_webapp/+merge/177135 ;) ? [11:35] sil2100, oh, done (sorry I did it and forgot to reply on IRC) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [11:39] seb128: thank you! [11:57] seb128: did you look into getting the last update data on desktop too? [11:57] Laney, no, should I? [11:57] that's a good point, I'm focussing on making those stuff work on the phone [11:58] might be nice [11:58] but I guess it would be nice [11:58] I think you can get the mtime of /var/cache/apt [11:58] or maybe /var/lib/apt/lists [12:16] morning, peeps [12:20] saluton desrt. feliĉa vendredo :-) [12:20] Laney: bona homo! vi lernis! [12:20] estas bona lingvo, ĉu ne? [12:22] desrt, hey [12:22] mi ne komprenas vin [12:22] (thanks wikipedia :P) [12:22] Laney: "dankon" [12:23] :-) [12:23] i'm starting to notice that esperanto is a gateway drug [12:23] i spent a bit of time yesterday deciding whether i should learn shavian or toki pona next [12:23] seriously.... [12:23] do vulcan [12:25] afaik, nobody ever speced out a vulcan language [12:25] if you like pointy ears, there is elvish from lord of the rings, though [12:25] http://home.comcast.net/~markg61/vlif.htm [12:26] oh dear lord [12:26] The Vulcan Language Institute® originally began in 1980 to [12:26] explore the languages of Vulcans on their homeworld and colonies. [12:27] the page looks like it hasnt been updated since [12:27] i guarantee it's been updated more recently than 1980... [12:27] desrt: I think you mis-spelt espresso there, in which case it's definitely a gateway drug man ;) [12:27] but ya... the look says 'not by much' [12:27] davmor2: i got a pot of the real stuff brewing now :) [12:28] davmor2: (incidentally, in my case... you're exactly correct.... i never drank coffee until a european friend convinced me to try espresso... now i drink all sorts of coffee) [12:28] soon you'll graduate to English Breakfast [12:28] the real real stuff [12:28] uuh [12:29] english breakfast is like earl grey taken down a notch [12:29] aint nobody got time for that === 20WACTA0R is now known as tvoss [12:30] I save the fancy stuff for special occasions [12:30] I need to drive home now, be back pretty soon! [12:30] desrt: I hope thanked them :) [12:30] in canada, we're fancy daily :) [12:31] just remembered there's some lapsang souchong downstairs [12:31] davmor2: actually, he was upset [12:31] davmor2: the slightly longer story is that he was living in canada for a couple of years and found the coffee here to be atrocious. particularly tim hortons. [12:31] Laney: Truck Stop English Breakfast is full graduation :) [12:31] he was german and he used some long-german-word for "dirty water left in the sink after you do the dishes" to describe this kind of coffee [12:32] i told him that i didn't like coffee and he said "no wonder you don't. coffee in this country sucks. you need to try the real thing..." [12:32] davmor2: yeah! The teaspoon has to stand up on its own [12:32] so the fact that by the end of it all, i was drinking the normal coffee..... he was a bit upset [12:33] Laney: :) [13:00] Laney, reviewed your datetime changed, there is a tiny details on a string and bonus point if you rebase/make pot it [13:35] seb128: w00t, thanks [13:41] how hard would it be to modify 'scale' to navigate desktops. basically i want to be able to do all window/desktop navigation with *one* hotkey+cursor keys [13:42] eg activate 'scale', if you try to move offscreen, when walking the windows, it switches desktops. or make one hotkey toggle between expo/scale.. there are many ways it could be done [13:43] mac osx mission control (without window-bundles) is perfect but relies on multitouch [13:54] mlankhorst, hi [14:39] tedg, FYI, the pbuilderhook universe hook is available to use now [14:44] fginther, Great, thanks! [15:02] larsu, do you know why qtcreator doesn't recognise GSettings ? [15:02] it underlines it in red when you do GSettings {} [15:03] seb128: oh, no clue, I don't use qtcreator. Does it give you an error message? [15:03] "Unknown component. (M300)" [15:04] hm, how helpful [15:04] larsu, don't bother about it [15:04] I will have a look [15:04] I wanted to check if that's a known issue before spending time looking at it [15:04] seb128: thanks. I've just started with the ubiquity work... it was a crazy day [15:05] larsu, are there other days at Canonical? ;-) [15:05] seb128: ya, weekends :D [15:05] ;-) [15:56] hmm, that notify-osd worked today and not yesterday is rather suspicious, build 39 should have been the same as build 40 [15:58] oh, it looks like #39 passed on i386 but not amd64; that makes a bit more sense [15:58] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-notify-osd/39/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/ [15:58] it ran against the old version [15:59] it shouldn't work that way... [16:00] darkxst: do you know how I can test ubiquity's panel? Starting it gives me a grey window over half my screen [16:05] seb128: for the ibus unity tests, see bug 1203106 [16:05] Launchpad bug 1203106 in unity (Ubuntu) "Rewrite ibus test for ibus 1.5" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203106 [16:08] jbicha, good work on fixing notify-osd [16:09] jbicha, seems like we need bschaefer to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1204210 before updating ibus then? [16:09] Ubuntu bug 1204210 in unity (Ubuntu) "Refactor unity/nux to the new ibus 1.5 changes" [Medium,Triaged] [16:09] bregma, bschaefer: hey, is ^ correct? [16:10] tedg, ^ btw, you were watching the status [16:10] seb128,yup! I have a branch, but its getting a bit hard to be consistent [16:10] seb128, well that bug can wait [16:10] bschaefer, is that going to create user visible problems? [16:10] seb128, mainly I need to fix up the tests, which once they are passing, ibus is working fine [16:11] seb128, nope, the only visible problems are addressed in the moving unity tests to ibu 1.5 [16:11] bschaefer, what about the refactoring/signal? is that tests only? [16:11] ok, great [16:11] do you have any eta on that? [16:11] seb128, it needs to be refactor and there is a big error/warning I want to comment out in nux, but it doesn't create much of a problem [16:12] seb128, im hoping by today but getting someone to test it always take a bit of time [16:12] as it'll fail on one machine for no reason :( [16:12] ok [16:12] bschaefer: do we need to land ibus in -proposed before your merges will work? [16:13] jbicha, hmm if ibus is not 1.5 with the change I make might cause them to fail on current ibus... [16:15] as I've had to change lp:autopilot to not restart ibus each time we switch engines...as ibus is always on in 1.5 (which is a bit of a big change in behaviour) [16:20] ok, would Monday be good for uploading ibus 1.5? we could hold it in -proposed for a few days if necessary [16:21] yeah, that would sounds good, but right now ibus 1.5 works well with unity [16:22] jbicha, the only regression I saw is a super minor one [16:29] nux will need to be rebuilt against the new ibus (soname bump) so its autopkgtest will have to pass before ibus migrates out of proposed [16:44] alright, which I should get that branch merged for nux soon as well [16:44] * Laney cuts qt [16:44] sort the model! SORT IT! [16:47] mpt: hey! [16:47] Laney, didn't you master sorting earlier in the week? [16:47] Laney, oh, no, that was filtering [16:47] mpt: so, I just somewhat build a demo for the update system panel for the phone [16:47] mpt: I would appreciate a real mpt design if possible (with an awesome font ;)) [16:47] didrocks_busy: as you do in your spare time :) [16:47] I guess we'll talk about it on the IoM === didrocks_busy is now known as didrocks [16:48] czajkowski: yeah, that was the part that made my buffer overflowed today :p [16:48] jbicha, awesome. :-) Seems we need to reconsider that rule. Perhaps show only the ~3 most-recently-used players? [16:48] didrocks: your reward is the weekend off! [16:49] didrocks, will you be at the sprint? [16:49] czajkowski: not a full week-end as travelling! [16:49] mpt: yeah, I'll take some fresh air ;) [16:49] didrocks, ok, let's look at it there [16:49] agreed :) === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark [16:54] didrocks: no rest for the wicked! [16:54] heh [16:54] mpt: I don't use the sound menu (or webapps) enough to really have an opinion on that [17:03] * didrocks waves good evening and good week-end! [17:06] seb128: is Sunday night/Monday morning ok for ibus or do you want to discuss it more next week? [17:07] jbicha, feel free to upload when you feel it's ready, it's going to stay in proposed until we get an unity landing next week anyway [17:13] and we'll need indicator-keyboard MIR'ed [17:19] seb128: do you still need the normal mir paperwork for pre-mir stuff? [17:20] bah I can't make this stupid thing sort [17:20] I'll try again on Monday [17:20] it calls sort() but the view doesn't get updated [17:24] jbicha, define "pre-mir" stuff? [17:25] Laney, is that the tz list? [17:25] yeah [17:25] I made it fetch the data in a worker thread [17:25] so I want it to sort as they come in [17:26] QSortFilterProxyModel is supposed to do that but I can't get it to [17:27] I've no experience with that [17:27] I guess it works if you load/fill the model and then sort it? [17:28] seb128: for the phone stuff, y'all have done quite a few pre-new and pre-mir checks, right? [17:29] yes that's what it does currently [17:32] jbicha, right, they still need Mir bugs [17:32] MIR rather [17:32] we didn't review the keyboard indicator I think [17:32] not for MIR for sure [17:33] it's nearly the weekend! [17:33] it already is :P [17:33] stop working [17:34] heh [17:35] i wish it was *that* easy to stop working [17:35] perhaps i should go and get some beer? [17:35] beer beer beer steak steak steak [17:36] spoken like a desktop team member [17:37] lol === sam113101 is now known as sam113101_afk === sam113101_afk is now known as sam113101 [17:56] mterry, hey [17:56] i'm wondering if you have anything to comment about https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-gtk-module/unset-ubuntu-menuproxy/+merge/172624 [17:57] attente, hello [17:57] mainly re: what the right thing to do is when UBUNTU_MENUPROXY is unset [17:59] looking [18:01] attente, uh... do we have instances of people being bit by an unset UBUNTU_MENUPROXY? Or docs floating in wild that suggest unsetting it? [18:01] attente, I've always seen "export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 or UBUNTU_MENUXPROXY=" [18:02] mterry, there's nothing documenting the behaviour of an unset UBUNTU_MENUPROXY right now [18:02] attente, sure, nothing official. But I didn't know if it was a common thing for people to do, like some website somewhere recommended it [18:02] attente, I thought we wanted UBUNTU_MENUPROXY to die? This would make that harder [18:03] mterry, yes, that's true [18:03] i don't think it's a common thing, but charles seems to be getting bit by it [18:04] attente, charles? [18:04] attente, if it's just something he's doing, maybe correct him. But if it's something he's doing because of an omgubuntu.co.uk article, maybe we should support this [18:05] sorry, charles in #systems [18:05] mterry, ok [18:05] attente, I'm just leery of putting ourselves in a position where we have to set UBUNTU_MENUPROXY to some dummy value for our stuff to work, rather than gracefully sunsetting the variable [18:05] attente, but ::shrug:: [18:06] mterry, ok, thanks :) === slomo__ is now known as slomo === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [19:10] xnox: are you going to guadec? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [21:38] larsu, you can run ubiquity-dm from a vt, then you will get a new X session just like at boot === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === jbicha is now known as Guest55151