[00:00] <RoflWaffle17> Redramires, I haven't changed any of the monitor configurations...I even updated my nvidia drivers and evvrything
[00:00] <redramires> ctugt: What is an error?
[00:00] <ctugt> ill be right back ill write it down
[00:01] <jarco> afflicto, struggling at nearly the same try running sudo amdcccle in terminal and see what comes up
[00:01] <redramires> RoflWaffle17: Try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/23869/could-not-apply-the-stored-configuration-for-the-monitor
[00:02] <afflicto> jarco: yeah it worked :P
[00:02] <jarco> Do all amd cards have the same fan speed problem as me? (fan runs full speed all the time)
[00:02] <red22> How can I make an entry in grub for my windows partition pls?
[00:02] <jarco> afflicto, lucky you :)
[00:04] <QTPieMan> is ubuntu forums coming back again?
[00:04] <ikonia> QTPieMan: have you read the page ?
[00:04] <QTPieMan> ikonia, yup
[00:04] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what does it say....
[00:04] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hmm is hacked
[00:04] <afflicto> ok so I was able to setup my 3 monitors using amdcccle. but when I rebooted I have only 1 monitor the other ones are completely white! -,-
[00:04] <ikonia> QTPieMan: does it say they are re-installing it to restore service ?
[00:04] <radicalzebra> anyone have trouble with ubuntu while using an iphone as a hotspot? for some reason my os crashes a lot in this configuration
[00:04] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hmm, is it gonna take a month?
[00:05] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what does it say on the website
[00:05] <QTPieMan> ikonia, 2013-07-22: work on reinstalling the forums continues.
[00:05] <ikonia> QTPieMan: right, so it says they are working on it, but doesn't set a date.
[00:05] <QTPieMan> ikonia, oh ok
[00:06] <ikonia> QTPieMan: so therefore, if thats the information being provided how would anyone in this channel know if it's going to take a month ? (what a random time for you to ask)
[00:06] <ikonia> QTPieMan: you really need to start reading information that is available to you,
[00:06] <QTPieMan> ikonia, ph pk
[00:06] <ikonia> QTPieMan: ph pk ?
[00:07] <QTPieMan> ikonia, thats oh ok
[00:07] <ikonia> I see
[00:07] <varunendra> QTPieMan, Here is an update thread : http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/update-on-status-regarding-re-opening-the-forums/754/36
[00:08] <QTPieMan> varunendra, ok
[00:08] <afflicto> I think I'm gonna give up. I guess I'm gonna head back to windows 7. Or just lag around with open source drivers.
[00:09] <sunshinejay> is ther any antivirus for ubuntu?
[00:09] <QTPieMan> sunshinejay, yup lots of
[00:10] <QTPieMan> sunshinejay, but why do u need a anti virus?
[00:10] <ikonia> sunshinejay: no, there isn't
[00:10] <guzzlefry> There should be... :P
[00:10] <ikonia> guzzlefry: no, there shouldn't be
[00:11] <QTPieMan> ikonia, u forgot clamav :P
[00:11] <guzzlefry> How are you supposed to scan email attachments for your mail server?
[00:11] <ikonia> QTPieMan: no, I didn't
[00:11] <ikonia> QTPieMan: that is not an antivirus for ubuntu - that is a mail scanner
[00:11] <ikonia> QTPieMan: that is not antivirus for the OS - that is a mail scanner
[00:11] <QTPieMan> ikonia, ?? nope
[00:12] <ikonia> as a file system scanner it's useless
[00:12] <ikonia> you're welcome to use it
[00:12] <QTPieMan> ikonia, what about others?
[00:12] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what others ?
[00:12] <QTPieMan> ikonia,  http://www.ossdoc.com/2013/02/top-3-antivirus-for-ubuntu-and-linux.html
[00:13] <ikonia> QTPieMan: worthless
[00:13] <ikonia> QTPieMan: not even "for linux"
[00:13] <guzzlefry> Probably shouldn't assume why he's asking about it. It could very well be for email scanning.
[00:13] <OerHeks> Avast stopped, by the way
[00:13] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i dont think we need a anti virus
[00:13] <ikonia> QTPieMan: I know he doesn't
[00:14] <ikonia> OerHeks: good, one useless product stopped
[00:14] <QTPieMan> ikonia, yup
[00:14] <jarco> Ok now I have the CCC working over here. But now the Control center is in german (linux language is English. Any solutions?
[00:14] <varunendra> ikonia, QTPieMan as far as I know, clamav uses same virus definition database as its windows version (which is also an "on-demand" scanner). And it does scan files and detects viruses. Only it's an on demand one.
[00:15] <ikonia> varunendra: hence why it's useless
[00:15] <Mkop1> my computer just crashed 3 times in a row when trying to log in. eventually I decided to install lubuntu and managed to log in that way, but how can I debug what went wrong with that gnome/unity login?
[00:15] <ikonia> varunendra: it's only good for scanning for windows virus, such as in email, which is why it's worthless to linux
[00:15] <QTPieMan> heres everything clearly www.ossdoc.com/2012/11/do-we-need-anti-virus-on-linux.html
[00:16] <ikonia> that's a pretty poor link
[00:16] <QTPieMan> ikonia, for scanning windows viruses :P
[00:16] <ikonia> I'd stop recommending ossdoc.com - everything you post from there seems pretty weak
[00:16] <QTPieMan> ikonia, pk thanks for telling me
[00:16] <QTPieMan> ikonia, *ok
[00:17] <guzzlefry> There are a few Linux viruses, nothing widespread though. >_>
[00:17] <varunendra> ikonia, I agree with the lack of live part. But at least it solves the purpose most of the people need an antivirus for.... to save or protect windows. Those viruses are not going to do anything to linux anyway.
[00:18] <QTPieMan> varunendra, not wine WINE too :P
[00:19] <varunendra> what about wine?
[00:19] <OerHeks> My best security tip is Backup your data.
[00:19] <varunendra> goes without saying ;)
[00:20] <QTPieMan> using a firewall is enough
[00:20] <varunendra> Not going to protect from "plugged-everywhere" usb drives ;)
[00:21] <varunendra> firewall is a different thing with different purpose, QTPieMan
[00:21] <QTPieMan> well, programmers told me it isnt safe to use xampp, is it true?
[00:22] <QTPieMan> varunendra, i told that is "enough" to mess with security
[00:22] <OerHeks> xammp is not supported here, use lamp
[00:22] <jkitchen> is there a way to prevent certain files from being added during package installation? I want to install the libvirt-bin package but do *not* want it to install the default network and stuff.
[00:22] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, not supported here means?
[00:23] <kgreene> Does anyone have experience with taking apart the screen of a System 76 Pangolin Performance laptop? I can't access the bottom screws, and was wondering if anyone had advice
[00:23] <OerHeks> !xampp
[00:23] <OerHeks> there is a factoid for it
[00:23] <varunendra> jkitchen, unless it is a metapackage, it should only install the packages that are its dependencies.
[00:24] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, ok
[00:24] <varunendra> kgreene, maybe try #hardware
[00:24] <kgreene> varunendra, thanks
[00:24] <jkitchen> varunendra: talking about config files, not packages
[00:24] <OerHeks> QTPieMan, it is good to make a honeypot
[00:24] <OerHeks> :-D
[00:24] <varunendra> np :) kgreene
[00:25] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, sudo tasksel install lamp-server will be "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^"
[00:25] <jkitchen> varunendra: the libvirt-bin package installs some gunk in /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default which I don't want, nor need
[00:25] <jkitchen> and since it starts the service upon package installation as well, it starts up the services associated with said gunk
[00:26] <OerHeks> QTPieMan, yes, tasksel has some nasty bugs, when you want to remove things
[00:26] <varunendra> jkitchen, then I've no idea. If you know the exact location of files, and if they are just configuration files, you can backup-->restore them though.
[00:27] <jkitchen> varunendra: backup-->restore?
[00:27] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, hmm
[00:27] <varunendra> just copy the config files then restore (overwrite) them after installation. But only if they are pure config files.
[00:28] <OerHeks> !tasksel
[00:28] <QTPieMan> i came to know apt-fast is slower
[00:28] <jkitchen> varunendra: ahh. perhaps I'm not being clear :) I don't want them to show up in the first place due to them being actually harmful to my setup
[00:28] <Braden`> Hello
[00:29] <QTPieMan> !apt-fast
[00:29] <Braden`> I am trying to run a binary (compiled for 32-bit) in linux.  It has the proper executable flags set, but when I run it, I get:  $ ./ventrilo_srv -i -- bash: ./ventrilo_srv: No such file or directory
[00:29] <Braden`> The file is obviously there in the directory
[00:31] <varunendra> jkitchen, what is copied where, and in what sequence, plus additional actions during installation, is all stored in "DEBIAN" folder in the .deb package, there is no external way to control it as far as I know. So unless you edit the .deb package(s) itself, I don't think you can control it.
[00:32] <trism> Braden`: you probably don't have libc6:i386 plus the other 32-bit libs necessary
[00:32] <jkitchen> varunendra: ok, thanks
[00:32] <crashfocus> Hey all - since the forums are down, I've come here for advice/help. Does ubuntu 13.04 run smoothly on the mid-2012 MacBook Pro (non-retina)?
[00:32] <jkitchen> looks like it's actually libvirt's Makefile adding it. the 12.10 version of the package doesn't add it.
[00:33] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hey can i only install seamonkey navigator? there use to be "sudo apt-get seamonkey-browser"
[00:33] <jkitchen> there's a patch in the 12.10 version of libvirt-bin which disables the silly behavior
[00:33] <Braden`> trism:  That fixed it, thanks
[00:34] <varunendra> jkitchen, are you dealing with source files? Not .deb? If so, you should be able to make it do what you want, but may take a lot of digging
[00:34] <jkitchen> varunendra: I apt-get source'd the package on my 12.10 box and was poking at it. seems there's a patch. I may just rebuild the deb myself to apply the patch
[00:35] <jkitchen> I was hoping it was being created in a post-install script or somesuch
[00:35] <jkitchen> and I could do some apt config magic to prevent it from being installed
[00:36] <varunendra> jkitchen, sorry for the vague references, hope someone better with this can answer more precisely.... I'm not much help in case of source.. :(
[00:36] <jkitchen> it's not source, the actual libvirt-bin package installs it.
[00:36] <jkitchen> anywho
[00:36] <jkitchen> I think I just need to rebuild the package
[00:37] <jkitchen> with the patch from 12.10 applied
[00:39] <bawank> hi anyone..
[00:40] <bawank> im newbie, and i wanna ask, what should i do after installing ubuntu 13.04 and installing update ?
[00:41] <crashfocus> bawank: What are you using Ubuntu for?
[00:41] <bawank> for personal desktop
[00:41] <crashfocus> Alright
[00:41] <bawank> at my lapto > fujitsu L series
[00:41] <crashfocus> so first things first, go through into System Settings
[00:41] <bawank> *laptop
[00:42] <bawank> crashfocus : then ?
[00:42] <crashfocus> and modify anything you might need to modify in order to get your laptop running in the way you want it to
[00:42] <bawank> crashfocus : thanks
[00:42] <crashfocus> Customization is a wonderful part of Ubuntu
[00:42] <OerHeks> start with restricted extra's, i guess, and see if there are videodrivers available.
[00:44] <crashfocus> Oh yeah
[00:44] <crashfocus> make sure you're using proprietary video and wifi drivers (unless you're a free software person)
[00:45] <varunendra> crashfocus, "Proprietary" is not always the best. Should be used only if the native one is not satisfactory.
[00:45] <crashfocus> Fair enough
[00:45] <crashfocus> my experience has led me to prefer proprietary over open-source
[00:46] <varunendra> crashfocus, and I think of all those "fglrx", "wl" driver issues when stating what I stated above ;)
[00:46] <QTPieMan> what is better lightweight browser? midori or epiphany browser?
[00:46] <hewhomust> qt, depends on what you want
[00:47] <hewhomust> i'd preger midori
[00:47] <clue_h> QTPieMan, lynx
[00:47] <hewhomust> lol nice
[00:48] <QTPieMan> ok
[00:48] <hewhomust> qt, chromiums also a nice browser
[00:48] <hewhomust> !lynx
[00:48] <QTPieMan> clue_h, that is cli
[00:48] <hewhomust> yeah lol
[00:48] <bawank> i wanna join a ubuntu forum, but i cant open the links > ubuntuforums.org
[00:48] <hewhomust> thats why i laughed
[00:48] <clue_h> All the way man
[00:48] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, not lighweight
[00:49] <clue_h> It really is
[00:49] <Kitt3n> bawank, Ubuntuforums is still down because some asshat decided to hack it
[00:49] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, chromium is resource hog, firefox is better
[00:50] <varunendra> bawank, Ubuntu Forums is currently down. May take a couple of days before it is live again.
[00:50] <hewhomust> yeah ok sorry
[00:50] <QTPieMan> varunendra, you know hindi?
[00:50] <varunendra> My mother tounge.
[00:50] <bawank> kitt3n, varunendra : seriously ?
[00:50] <varunendra> bawank, yep
[00:50] <Kitt3n> bawank, Yup
[00:51] <QTPieMan> varunendra, oh i found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Varunendra
[00:51] <varunendra> Kitt3n, lol
[00:51] <bawank> :(
[00:51] <QTPieMan> Kitt3n, what "hat" ? :P
[00:51] <varunendra> QTPieMan, when did I become so interesting? lol !!
[00:52] <QTPieMan> varunendra, lol :P
[00:52] <QTPieMan> varunendra, i saw u berfore
[00:52] <IdleOne> bawank: in the mean time you can try http://ubuntu-discourse.org/
[00:52] <QTPieMan> varunendra, *before
[00:52] <QTPieMan> IdleOne, isnt askubuntu enough?
[00:53] <bawank> Idle0ne : nice info, thx
[00:53] <QTPieMan> looks like midori always have this problem Error - file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[00:53] <IdleOne> QTPieMan: I would think so, but there is Discourse being worked on/tested
[00:53] <varunendra> bawank, particularly this thread : http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/update-on-status-regarding-re-opening-the-forums/754/37
[00:53] <QTPieMan> IdleOne, yup
[00:54] <QTPieMan> !midori
[00:54] <hewhomust> qt try typing something it should go away
[00:54] <hewhomust> searching
[00:54] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, find
[00:55] <hewhomust> qt, are you trying to open the file in midori?
[00:56] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, no its showing in home page Error - file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[00:56] <hewhomust> yeah then just type something in the search bar
[00:56] <hewhomust> on midori
[00:56] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, is it working fine for you?
[00:56] <hewhomust> yeah
[00:57] <hewhomust> except for the first time when i started it a similar error to yours
[00:57] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, well the same thing is showing in linux mint 15
[00:57] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, when opened midori
[00:57] <hewhomust> could you give a screenshot please
[00:58] <hewhomust> cause i think its just a screwed up home page
[00:58] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/midori/+bug/950285
[00:59] <hewhomust> qt, can you get to the preferences window?
[01:00] <hewhomust> cause i would just change your homepage and see what happens
[01:00] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, oh i just need to change the home page
[01:00] <hewhomust> yeah i think so
[01:00] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, also theres no password manager in midori
[01:00] <lancien> !fr
[01:01] <hewhomust> well thats a flaw with the browser not a bug, theres probably a way to get a password manager though
[01:02] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, hmm
[01:02] <hewhomust> qt, did the error stop when you changed the homepage?
[01:03] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, yup, i also have to change to open home page in startup instead of tabs
[01:03] <hewhomust> cause, i get the same thing with the default homepage
[01:04] <hewhomust> thats pretty silly though, they should probably just change the default home page
[01:05] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, dont know why people are complaining from 2006
[01:05] <hewhomust> lol, its so easy too
[01:06] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, hmm
[01:06] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, not 2006 it will be 2008
[01:06] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, checked now
[01:06] <hewhomust> lol a whole 5 years
[01:07] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, yup
[01:07] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, maybe in #midori
[01:08] <hewhomust> lol
[01:09] <QTPieMan> is epiphany browser have a password manager?
[01:09] <hewhomust> https://help.gnome.org/users/epiphany/stable/ephy-managing-cookies-passwords.html.en
[01:10] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, i cant find a option to save
[01:11] <hewhomust> qt, i assume theres a popup option to save similar to chromium
[01:11] <hewhomust> actually forget that
[01:13] <hewhomust> qt, i just downloaded epiphany it is a game lol
[01:13] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, heres a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/180205
[01:16] <Phys> Greetings. I'd like to install windows 7 from ubuntu hard drive.
[01:16] <hewhomust> lol
[01:16] <hewhomust> hi phys
[01:16] <QTPieMan> Phys, kidding?
[01:17] <hewhomust> what do you mean?
[01:17] <Phys> Of course I'm not kidding. I want test one w7 and install from HD. Can I do that?
[01:17] <hewhomust> well phys could you paste the results from fdisk -l
[01:21] <hewhomust> phys still there?
[01:22] <hewhomust> lol
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot for those of you who laugh
[01:25] <hewhomust> wilee?
[01:26] <Kaytoo> hi
[01:26] <hewhomust> hi kay
[01:27] <Compn> wifi isnt working, bcm4311 is my card on laptop, i try modprobe -r wl and get Error: Module wl is in use. any ideas how to fix this ?
[01:27] <Compn> wireless doesnt show up in ubuntu , only my wired network
[01:28] <varunendra> Compn, do you have an active internet connection on the laptop? (wired, usb etc)
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> hewhomust, It seemed you were just laughing at this request it is an easy boot.
[01:28] <Compn> varunendra : wired yes, and i can give you ssh access
[01:29] <varunendra> not required :)
[01:29] <Compn> ssh root access... its fresh install
[01:29] <varunendra> Compn, first install the required package - "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree"
[01:29] <hewhomust> wilee, i merely wanted him to provide the details for the ext4 partition to inform him of how to resize it
[01:30] <Compn> varunendra : installing
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> hewhomust, Cool.
[01:30] <Compn> done
[01:30] <hewhomust> but unfortunately then he left
[01:30] <varunendra> Compn, now - "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" (assuming eth1 is currently your wifi interface)
[01:31] <Compn> varunendra : dont see wifi in ifconfig
[01:31] <Compn> i got eth0 (wired) and lo
[01:32] <varunendra> Compn, what is "ifconfig -a" ? Does it show additional interface?
[01:32] <Compn> varunendra : does not list it, no
[01:33] <Compn> maybe i need a reboot
[01:33] <twenty-three> hi guys, i am trying to compile and i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913184/ . however, i already have g++ installed so idk what the problem might be
[01:33] <varunendra> Compn, the error that "wl is in use"  suggested that it must have been used by that interface. But no problem with that...
[01:34] <varunendra> Compn, just do - "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source"
[01:34] <varunendra> Compn, then - "sudo modprobe -rfv wl"
[01:35] <nikescomputers> hey there
[01:35] <Compn> varunendra : now says module wl not found
[01:35] <nikescomputers> anyone have any good bash tutorials learning the terminal?
[01:36] <Compn> should be a few in google nikescomputers
[01:36] <Compn> :)
[01:36] <nikescomputers> thanks
[01:36] <Compn> sorry, dont have any links offhand
[01:36] <varunendra> Compn, that's okay. Did the purge command finish properly?
[01:36] <Compn> yes
[01:36] <nikescomputers> u ever use trainsignal?
[01:36] <nikescomputers> or cbt nuggets
[01:36] <Compn> well
[01:36] <Compn> Purging configuration files for bcmwl-kernel-source ...
[01:36] <Compn> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[01:36] <Compn> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[01:36] <Compn> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-27-generic
[01:36] <FloodBot1> Compn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <varunendra> Compn, now try - "sudo modprobe -v b43". Does it make wifi active?
[01:37] <Compn> varunendra : just sits there at insmod /lib/modules/3.8.0-27-generic/kernel/drivers/ssb/ssb.ko
[01:38] <Compn> i had to change the kernel ubuntu uses because it was panicing at the start
[01:38] <Compn> so i'm on the older one
[01:38] <varunendra> Compn, if the apt-get purge command finished properly, just do a reboot if nothing else works.... wifi should work in the next boot.
[01:41] <Compn> varunendra : hopefully. i'm also having a problem with the update-initramfs , kept dying on tg3, should i apt-get remove and reinstall it or ?
[01:41] <varunendra> Compn, on the new kernel?
[01:42] <Compn> varunendra : on the old one, since i wasnt able to boot to the new one
[01:43] <varunendra> Compn, tg3 is a native driver, you can not remove it with apt-get, nor should be required to do so..
[01:44] <varunendra> The bcmwl-kernel-source (wl) driver isn't the correct one for your card, so hopefully, removing it should fix initramfs too.
[01:45] <Compn> varunendra : ok i got wlan0 now in ifconfig
[01:45] <varunendra> Compn, it should be working now.
[01:46] <Compn> yep works now, mucho thanks
[01:46] <varunendra> You're welcome :)
[01:46] <Compn> didnt see that in google results :\
[01:46] <varunendra> what?
[01:46] <Compn> your instructions
[01:47] <varunendra> heh, they should be in the broadcom instructions wiki page.
[01:47] <varunendra> !broadcom
[01:47] <hewhomust> !lxde
[01:48] <twenty-three> hi guys, i am trying to compile and i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913184/ . however, i already have g++ installed so idk what the problem might be
[01:48] <twenty-three> i think my problem might be related to this: update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/gcc-4.4 because link group gcc is broken
[01:48] <Compn> varunendra : yes, but theres only one line , and its not clear that was my problem : "If you wish to permanently use the open source drivers then remove the bcmwl-kernel-source package:"
[01:49] <Compn> btw that wiki document is a pain to understand :D
[01:49] <jamie``> Hi guys im having an issue making Windows 7 the default OS, I'm following a guide but apparantly I don't have the file /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit, what do I do ? (GRUB version 2)
[01:49] <hewhomust> jamie try opening this
[01:50] <varunendra> Compn, the key to installing correct driver is to identify your chip first, then whether the proprietary one supports it. But yeah, that wiki page is somewhat too wordy
[01:50] <hewhomust>  /etc/default/grub
[01:51] <jamie``> thanks hewhomust, do I just edit and save the file where it is or copy it across?
[01:52] <hewhomust> just run sudo update-grub
[01:52] <hewhomust> after youre finished
[01:53] <varunendra> jamie``, menu.lst is not used anymore, the easiest way to manage boot is to use Boot-Repair, safe and easy : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:53] <Kitt3n> Or grub-customizer
[01:53] <jamie``> thanks varunendra!
[01:54] <fr33k4n> +1 for Boot-Repair. I have easily installed and dual booted windows 8 and ubuntu using it in uefi hardware
[01:54] <varunendra> np :)
[01:54] <dakotawulfy> I have used boot repair it is easy and works good
[01:54] <jamie``> hewhomust: still didn't generate the menu.lst :/ ill go with varunendra's suggestion
[01:54] <hewhomust> k np
[01:55] <varunendra> jamie``, hewhomust meant to edit the /etc/default/grub file - something that boot-repair does in a safer way. :)
[01:55] <fr33k4n> varunendra> i too had issue with broadcom wifi drivers in ubuntu 13.04. But after install when I checked in "additional drivers" tab, it was showing the required broadcom driver. Installing it fixed my issue with wifi after a boot
[01:56] <fr33k4n> but built in speakers is not working. I can use headset and sound works great
[01:57] <varunendra> fr33k4n, there are many broadcom wifi chips that work with more than one of its three variants. But the open source ones should be given the first priority, the proprietary one last.
[01:57] <fr33k4n> any idea how to fix the sound issue? kernel is 3.8.19
[01:58] <varunendra> fr33k4n, nope. I'm not into sound issues. :(
[01:58] <fr33k4n> np :)
[01:58] <Kitt3n> fr33k4n, are you using an AMD graphics card?
[01:59] <fr33k4n> only intel graphics card
[01:59] <Kitt3n> Okay, no idea then.
[01:59] <Compn> is there an easy way to recalibrate a laptop battery ?
[02:00] <fr33k4n> http://www.flipkart.com/sony-vaio-fit-15e-f15215sn-w-laptop-3rd-gen-ci3-2gb-500gb-win8-touch/p/itmdm64y4hdjbtjs?pid=COMDM64TZKAD9CJC&otracker=from-search&srno=t_3&query=sony+vaio+touch+screen+laptop&ref=edc33f81-5ab0-43d7-a1fd-4d4789001fe7
[02:00] <Compn> i unplug it and it goes from 90% to 46% pretty quickly...
[02:00] <fr33k4n> this is my lap if it helps
[02:01] <Compn> or just unplug > run it down > charge > run it down a few times?
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> Compn, Is it reading wrong or just worn out?
[02:01] <hewhomust> fr33 perhaps this will be useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/77494/laptop-built-in-speakers-not-working-on-an-hp-625
[02:01] <Compn> wilee-nilee : probably worn out
[02:02] <Compn> i didnt play with it for 5 months ...
[02:02] <varunendra> fr33k4n, do you have alsa mixer installed? (sudo apt-get install alsamixergui)
[02:02] <varunendra> fr33k4n, I often see that as a first suggestion for sound issues.
[02:02] <hewhomust> yeah perhaps its disabled
[02:03] <hewhomust> not alsa i meant the device
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> Compn, Not sure of any fixes if worn other than urban legends myself. ;)
[02:04] <fr33k4n> i think i had tried alsamixer and edited the alsa-base.conf before and rebooted with no result. But not sure, i had followed this exact guide. I'll try it later once i reach home..thanks for your suggestion
[02:04] <jeetpei>  Hi all
[02:05] <hewhomust> hi jeet
[02:05] <jeetpei> i have a question
[02:05] <jeetpei> i am using ar r command
[02:05] <hewhomust> wrong channel
[02:05] <hewhomust> nah just joking what is it?
[02:05] <Compn> wilee-nilee : ok, just making sure :)
[02:06] <jeetpei> i do ar r debian_binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz
[02:06] <hewhomust> tar isnt it
[02:06] <jeetpei> but i see some png files currpt
[02:06] <hewhomust> not ar
[02:06] <jeetpei> no its ar
[02:06] <hewhomust> oh ok
[02:09] <jeetpei> i am telling you full process : first i get .deb package .. then i do : ar vx <package> : i get data control and debian_binary .. now i untar data.tar.gz : copy my logo in that .. again tar data.tar.gz : then ar r debian.deb debian_binary control.tar.gz data/tar.gz
[02:09] <jeetpei> but i see logo is currpt
[02:09] <tofa> Hi I'm having a dual boot problem. Windows boots fine but ubuntu hangs in the boot process. Anyone able to help?
[02:10] <jeetpei> any idea ?
[02:10] <hewhomust> jeet what deb is this
[02:10] <hewhomust> ill download it and see if it breaks as well
[02:11] <jeetpei> :) sorry i can not publish this at this movment
[02:11] <hewhomust> no problem
[02:11] <hewhomust> tofa, what exactly happens?
[02:11] <the_cyber_guy> i am having a strange problem in ubuntu 13.04. i am using a usb mobile broadband dongle and ubuntu is unable to recognise it as a mobile broadband device and it does't comes up in the network manager too. while if i restart the computer and still on the ubuntu login screen it successfully detects and let me connect using the network manager option on the top bar. once connected on the login screen, later i am able to disconnect and reconnect in
[02:11] <the_cyber_guy> a logged in session too. what could be the possible reason for this ? it was all working fine with 12.10, 12.04 and 11.10.
[02:11] <Compn> wilee-nilee : i mean it goes from 50% to off . so i cant make ubuntu tell more accurately the power status ?
[02:12] <hewhomust> comp, does it physically turn off
[02:12] <hewhomust>  or is it just the calibration?
[02:12] <Compn> physically
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> Compn, It may be do you have another OS or  live cd to check?
[02:12] <Kitt3n> Compn, sounds like an almost dead battery
[02:12] <hewhomust> then theres not really anything you can do
[02:12] <Compn> ok then :D
[02:12] <hewhomust> mine does the same thing
[02:12] <Compn> time for new battery
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Details please the windows release, the install type of ubuntu as well...etc
[02:13] <Compn> never liked laptops, always bad power issues :\
[02:13] <Compn> thanks again everyone
[02:13] <jeetpei> np
[02:13] <jeetpei> :)
[02:14] <jeetpei> so what is for my problem .. any guess
[02:14] <jeetpei> do we have another way to wrap up all tar files in debian package
[02:14] <jeetpei> ?
[02:14] <Vivekananda> hello everyone. long time. am going to install ubuntu 12.04 on vbox in windows 7 host. I want to write a script in python which prints a dictionary in a loop directly to a printer attached on the host computer. Will also later need to do this on a lan via wifi network. Can some gimme a novice set up instructions guide for this
[02:14] <sayakb> hi guys. I'm on ubuntu 13.04 x64. is there a utility like catfish that searches within files, but without using indexing?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> the_cyber_guy, Can you identify the device?
[02:15] <hewhomust> vive, would python be more appropriate?
[02:15] <the_cyber_guy> wilee-nilee, yes i can find it using lsusb it shows Bus 003 Device 003: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[02:15] <jrib> sayakb: grep?
[02:15] <hewhomust> #python i meant
[02:15] <tofa> wilee-nilee , ubuntu 13.04 kernel 3.8.19 , windows xp, seperate boot and home partitions.
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> the_cyber_guy, Cool outside my pay range but that is good info for the channel.
[02:15] <jrib> jeetpei: what do you actually want to accomplish?
[02:15] <sayakb> jrib: looking for a gui tool.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Any history leading to this?
[02:16] <Vivekananda> hewhomust: did not get you ? the language I will be coding in is python but the guest system is ubuntu and the host win. so I will need info about the glue code that iwll make this happen. I guessed I would need system specific info eg samba or cups or something
[02:16] <jrib> sayakb: any editor will let you search within files; for example gedit
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Ubuntu is a partitioned install, not a wubi right?
[02:17] <jeetpei> jrib: i have some logo problem .. i have debian package .. i do ar vx debian package
[02:17] <jeetpei> then untar data.tar.gz
[02:17] <jrib> jeetpei: describe "some logo problem"
[02:17] <jrib> jeetpei: please don't use enter as punctuation
[02:17] <hewhomust> vive, i would try the #python irc channel  for actual help with the code
[02:17] <the_cyber_guy> wilee-nilee, i have seen other people having the same problem with mobile broadband dongle on 13.04. but i have found that it can be connected successfully on the login screen. and later once connected you can reconnect/disconnect in a logged in session. is this a bug ?
[02:17] <tofa> wilee-nilee, ubuntu 12.04 broke completely (shared computer) couldn't fetch the archives to upgrade to a new kernel so I wrote 0's to the partition and put ubuntu 13.04 on it. Then chrooted into the OS and ran update-grub.
[02:17] <jeetpei> logo file i got curpted when i do ar r
[02:18] <jrib> jeetpei: you aren't answering my question: what do you actually want to accomplish?  What is your end-goal?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> tofa, No grub-install /dev/sdX in the chroot
[02:18] <jeetpei> i want a deb package with good logo
[02:19] <jrib> jeetpei: great.  Now be more specific about what package you are talking about and exactly what the logo is in the package
[02:19] <tofa> wilee-nilee, yes grub is installed. on /dev/sda8 the boot partition
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> tofa, THis a gpt?
[02:20] <hewhomust> tofa you should do it to sda not a specific partition at least i think so
[02:20] <tofa> wilee-nilee, when I boot I get the grub splash screen. I beleive it is gpt no efi as far as I can see.
[02:21] <jeetpei> i have my company built debian package. where we see logo gets currpt when we build using ant. we found a workaround that we can do ar vx deb package ... and copy good logo in it and again wrap up
[02:21] <yalex> Hello I'm mounting some samba shares in fstab but its giving the wrong groups on my ubuntu desktop.
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> tofa, From a live cd run this app, and the bootinfo summary and post the url generated this will give us a lot more info. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:21] <yalex> Is there a way to map groups from the samba server to the linux client?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> run the summary only tofa
[02:21] <jrib> jeetpei: ok.  So what is the problem?  You've copied good logo and wrapped it up.  What is left to do?
[02:22] <usr13> yalex: How about nfs?
[02:22] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I installed that in the chroot environment and ran it to begin the boot. It sort of helped, will do what you ask.
[02:22] <yalex> The other PCs are windows so we only set it up as a samba server
[02:22] <usr13> yalex: Is the server Linux as well?
[02:22] <yalex> Yes its ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:23] <jeetpei> still i see logo gets currpt when i wrap up
[02:23] <yalex> I'm assuming its because the group id is different on the server to the desktop?
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> tofa, For me if I can help the script is helpful to see much more info.
[02:23] <jeetpei> i am asking am i right with ar r option ?
[02:23] <jrib> jeetpei: explain what "logo gets corrupt" means.  You said the logo gets corrupt before you even bother with ar and replacing the logo. So why are you even still bothering with this?  Isn't your issue elsewhere?
[02:24] <usr13> yalex: The same shares can be samba and nfs.
[02:24] <jeetpei> yes i see some other branch works good with this approch
[02:25] <usr13> yalex: chown root:users
[02:25] <tofa> wilee-nilee, here's the url http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913306/
[02:26] <usr13> yalex: or what-ever:users
[02:26] <jrib> jeetpei: make sure you are packaging back in the right order (binary, control, then data)
[02:26] <jeetpei> yes its right
[02:27] <sayakb> jrib: thanks, installed gnome-search-tool and integrated it with gedit
[02:27] <jrib> jeetpei: so your package works but the logo remains corrupted like it was before?
[02:27] <jeetpei> yes
[02:27] <jrib> jeetpei: so you need to explain what "logo gets corrupt" means.
[02:27] <usr13> yalex: What is it now?  (or what was it before?)
[02:28] <jrib> jeetpei: there might also be some issues with checksums that you need to worry about.
[02:28] <jeetpei> yes .. when i install my application in netgear6 i see UI shows currpted logo
[02:28] <jeetpei> ah i can check checksum of logo.png .. right ?
[02:28] <MasterShake> hey guys, for some reason my Linux chrubuntu 3.4.0 box is just simply not recognizing NAT, and im trying to configure my iptables. Can someone offer a hand? I've been at this all day, so it might take a little involvement if anyone feels like sparing a few moments of their time,
[02:29] <MasterShake> i get this error: iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[02:30] <MasterShake> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded."
[02:30] <ffio> where to ubuntu gets upstream packages from ?
[02:30] <ffio> s/to/do
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> tofa, The only efi I see is on the usb, you need grub in the mbr, run the chroot as grub-install /dev/sda : update-grub and reboot
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> grub-install /dev/sda ; update-grub
[02:30] <jeetpei> jrib: checksum is correct :(
[02:32] <jrib> jeetpei: Didn't you modify data by replacing a logo or something?  I don't have experience actually modifying and rebuilding a binary package (sidenote: don't you have the source package), but it would seem odd to me that you make a modification to data and still checksum is correct
[02:33] <jrib> jeetpei: are you saying that the old logo file has the same checksum as the new one?
[02:33] <jeetpei> so you are talking about data.tar.gz 's checksum ?
[02:33] <MasterShake> any ideas guys?
[02:33] <jrib> jeetpei: look at md5sums in control.tar.gz
[02:33] <yalex> usr13, the group should be sambashare (and is on the server) but is mlocate on the my desktop
[02:34] <jeetpei> i am not modifying control.tar.gz does it make sense ?
[02:34] <jrib> jeetpei: what are you modifying?
[02:34] <checoimg> Hi guys , How do I set Bash to have a black Background ?
[02:34] <jrib> checoimg: right click in your terminal, edit profile
[02:34] <MasterShake> checoimg: right click > prefrences > profiles > colors
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> tofa, You also have partitions out of numerical order that can be problematic in some cases when trying to resize or delete a partition.
[02:35] <checoimg> Thank you guys! :D
[02:35] <checoimg> All set!
[02:35] <MasterShake> argh!!! i've been at this all day and it's driving me insane! why dont i have NAT enabled for?!
[02:35] <jeetpei> i am modifying only data.tar.gz by adding logo
[02:35] <yalex> is it due to sambashare having a different group id on the server to my ubuntu desktop machine?
[02:35] <MasterShake> checoimg: glad we could help =)
[02:36] <jrib> jeetpei: be more specific.  Give path.
[02:36] <jrib> !who | jeetpei
[02:36] <checoimg> :D
[02:37] <jeetpei> jrib: i am adding a logo in subdirectory of untared dat.tar.gz
[02:38] <tofa> wilee-nilee, when I run update grub in the chroot env. it comes up with no volume groups found.
[02:38] <RXL> Hey everyone. Any idea for AMD 64 boot problems. I get a black screen then have either restart or use the Esc key to boot. The new ubuntu I can't use I get lines on my screen thats it
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> tofa, You had some problem in 12.04 is sda8 mountable at this point, I have a feeling we are trying to fix a broken system, am I right here?
[02:40] <jeetpei> jrib: thanks i am looking into control as well now.. may be i am messing something there when i modify data
[02:40] <jeetpei> jrib: thanks a lot
[02:40] <RXL> yep errors
[02:40] <yalex> usr13,  the group is sambashare on the server but it becomes mlocate on my ubuntu desktop
[02:40] <usr13> Well...
[02:41] <tofa> wilee nilee, No I got rid of the broken system. Someone had destoryed the kernel.
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Has 13.04 ever booted?
[02:41] <jrib> jeetpei: why don't you give full path like I ask?  Anyway, you will see that md5sum in control.tar.gz has md5sum for every file in data.tar.gz
[02:42] <tofa> wilee nilee, sort of, it got up to 'freeing kernel memory' and then hung.
[02:42] <varunendra> tofa, "Someone" ?? Make sure nobody is following you lately.. LOL..
[02:43] <tofa> varunendra, ?
[02:43] <varunendra> You said "someone destroyed the kernel.." .. tofa ;)
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Not sure of any fixes other than running a purge and reinstall of grub and making sure when asked you put grub in the sda the mbr, otherwise I would get the partition numbering fixed with a reinstall.
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> the out of sequence ias not the problem I think but not good overall.
[02:44] <jeetpei> jrib: which path you asking ? .. i am not sure .. neways i am looking into this .. ttyl
[02:44] <tofa> varunendra, yes it was wierd.
[02:45] <tofa> wilee-nilee, maybe we should make sure he chroot is corredt. I don't think I've updated fstab in it.
[02:45] <varunendra> tofa, have you checked the free space on the root or /boot partition ?
[02:45] <tofa> varunendra, yes plenty of it.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> tofa, This is the chroot I use I like it better. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[02:48] <tofa> wilee nilee, I bound fstab as well and now it finds the ubuntu kernel. Is there a way I check if it is bootable before trying to reboot as I'm operating out of a live cd at the moment and don't want to have to set everything up again.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> one command click it and forget it.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> tofa, What does the update show, and did you load the mbr?
[02:50] <tofa> wilee-nilee, it says "Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic   No volume groups found Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda1 done"
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Have you run grub-install /dev/sda
[02:50] <tofa> wilee nilee, not sure what you mean about the mbr
[02:50] <tofa> wilee-nilee, yes
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> tofa, My guess it will boot, but I never mess with boot partitions.
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> sda is the mbr
[02:53] <MasterShake> anybody can help with my NAT issue?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> tofa, You see "Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-19-generic in that update?
[02:53] <whoever> MasterShake: sure ill give it a go
[02:54] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, I think the "chroot" environment may be causing trouble for tofa , it shouldn't be required for a simple setup. The "core.img" looking for partition 94 (??) is something I see in EFI setups only, unless it is a recent bug in boot-info-script.
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Might be the sda is no gpt or efi, just the usb shows a efi.
[02:55] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I'm a gentoo user, usually running a single boot laptop but a friend wants a dual boot ubuntu which I set up for him but he has messed up compltely and now I have to fix it. Oh well thanks for your help I'll try to boot.
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> looks like a standrad msdos HD
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Hope your in, just enough anomalies for me to be well not quite sure.
[02:56] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, that's precisely why I doubt the chroot thing. It should be pretty straight forward, no chroot involved.
[02:56] <whoever> MasterShake: if you donn't talk i/we can't help.
[02:56] <whoever> all we know is that it is a nat issue
[02:57] <varunendra> tofa, what if you simply boot with the USB, forget chroot, install Boot-repair and use it for basic repair(s) (reinstall grub etc.)?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Yeah, not sure I would think the chroot would be okay, do you mean since the efi is on the usb booted to the live?
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> +1 one on the boot repair, not running from a chroot though, it says in its info a install to the sda
[02:59] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, yeah. I'm not very familiar with chroot, but I think apart from the chrooted directory, it uses the source's configuration
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, I rarely chroot, I just use supergrub if I screw up and do it from the desktop.
[03:00] <varunendra> I don't even know how to.. ;)
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> grub 2 is a whole lotta fun, works great when it works. ;)
[03:00] <Kitt3n> ^ Especially grub2-efi
[03:00] <surio> Hello room: :) I had previously  installed  12.04.1 on a VM in Windows and tested it. It played well. So I installed it on my HDD. I have Broadcom BCM4313 and the STA driver that comes with Jockey does not behave well. Wifi gets disconnected 5 mins into connecting and doesn't connect afterwards. Only reboot works, and rinse, repeat!.
[03:00] <varunendra> lol ("when" is the key).. ;)
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> oooh yeah Kitt3n. ;)
[03:01] <MasterShake> whoever: sorry. im getting the error iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[03:01] <surio> I removed those drivers and http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 followed instructions provided for wheezy
[03:01] <MasterShake> whoever: i get that when i pass the "-t nat" argument into iptables
[03:01] <ni291187> hello
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> hi what's up?
[03:01] <surio> I got errors about new package trying to replace the old package of the firmware...
[03:02] <varunendra> surio, first thing to try would be to remove the proprietary driver and try the native one - brcmsmac
[03:02] <surio> ^^ see my description varunendra
[03:02] <tofa> wilee-nilee, are you still around?
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> tofa, yeah.
[03:02] <varunendra> surio, is the proprietary driver (wl) currently installed?
[03:03] <surio> no I removed it before attempting this
[03:03] <surio> varunendra no I removed it before attempting this
[03:03] <varunendra> surio, did you try - "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac" ??
[03:03] <tofa> wilee-nilee, still no luck with the boot. Grub splash screen came up but ubuntu just hung with a flashing '-' when I tried to boot it.
[03:04]  * MasterShake takes a seat and waits for his ticket to be called
[03:04] <varunendra> surio, the native brcmsmac driver works fine on 13.04 for this card. But a case of hit and miss on 12.04
[03:05] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913398/
[03:05] <surio> so what next?
[03:05] <trism> MasterShake: it probably means your kernel doesn't have CONFIG_NF_NAT
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I'm not sure really with it never booting really I ahve to wonder if a reinstall might be needed, and just make sure grub is loaded to the sda=mbr by using the manula something else option, thats what I would do with a never boot.
[03:05] <varunendra> tofa, I think you should re post the boot-info report without the chroot environment (and after trying basic repair in same mode).
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> Xp boots though so seems to be a problem in ubuntu
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> the bootrepair may fix it yeah.
[03:06] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913398/ modprobe's output
[03:06] <varunendra> surio, does it make your wifi work as expected?
[03:07] <varunendra> just saw it :)
[03:07] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I have the boot partition on an extended partition, maybe that's a problem. And I tried using boot repair to fix it before,
[03:08] <varunendra> tofa, that is not a problem for Ubuntu or grub
[03:09] <tofa> varunendra, I didn't think so but I'm clutching at straws here.
[03:09] <surio> varunendra, no :(
[03:09] <surio> trying trying..........
[03:09] <surio> varunendra, bbiab
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I use supergrub on occasion to boot in and just do all the fixin from the dektop, it is a tiny download
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> desktop*
[03:10] <tofa> wilee-nilee, what is supergrub? Never heard of it.
[03:10] <varunendra> surio, please post outputs of - "lsmod", "iwconfig" and "sudo iwlist scan"
[03:10] <Compn> oh no, ubuntu calls it a 'folder' instead of a 'directory'
[03:10] <malgorath> I am trying to install 13.04 with uefi and after I rebooted I have no windows 8 or Ubuntu boot loader. only see DVD drive in boot list
[03:12] <varunendra> tofa, for the kind of setup you have, I would have simply installed Ubuntu from USB in normal way. I don't understand why you even bothered with chroot or grub installation.
[03:12] <tofa> wilee-nilee, could it be that the ubuntu 13.04 install is broken?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> tofa, It is a boot in app, you download a tiny iso. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I wonder that.
[03:12] <tofa> varunendra, I did and everything has gone wrong from there :P
[03:14] <varunendra> tofa, your original description - "tofa> wilee-nilee, ubuntu 12.04 broke completely (shared computer) couldn't fetch the archives to upgrade to a new kernel so I wrote 0's to the partition and put ubuntu 13.04 on it. Then chrooted into the OS and ran update-grub."
[03:14] <tofa> wilee-nilee, is there a way to check if the install is broken?
[03:14] <varunendra> tofa, "write 0s, chrooted, update-grub" are all unnecessary steps, probably causing the trouble.
[03:14] <delinquentme> when I do stat on a file ... what is Gid
[03:15] <p3rsist> Hi guys. How do I setup a program to be started immediately after my encrypted home partition is decrypted?
[03:15] <tofa> varunendra, I did all the chrooting and updating when the first boot problem came along.
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Closest I know would to see if supergrub gets you booted, and thats not really a debug.
[03:15] <tofa> wilee-nilee, Will do.
[03:15] <varunendra> tofa, and that is absolutely not required. Most of us don't even know how to chroot and can install Ubuntu just fine..
[03:16] <malgorath> I am only able to boot the DVD for Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit after installing
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> malgorath, And?
[03:16] <malgorath> I am trying to install 13.04 with uefi and after I rebooted I have no windows 8 or Ubuntu boot loader. only see DVD drive in boot list
[03:16] <tofa> varunendra, just to clarify. I didn't install via chroot.
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | malgorath
[03:17] <malgorath> wilee-nilee sorry doing irc from my iPad
[03:17] <RXL> Same problem I have, It boots to black screen, then I hit esc to boot
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> malgorath, Thats about it for me on uefi stuff.
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> malgorath, ;)
[03:17] <varunendra> tofa, when you have an issue, you should consider simplifying things, as much as possible. May be you can even try a single empty partition instead of separate /boot and /home. Of course if you don't have much to loose there.
[03:19] <malgorath> thx wilee-nilee I will see if I can fix it now from boot DVD
[03:19] <tofa> varunedra, I agree. If this was my machine I would back up and start again but I can't do that as it's someone elses.
[03:19] <varunendra> tofa, I think the only thing you initially did wrong was choosing to install grub on a partition instead of the MBR.
[03:20] <chamunks> Whats the best way to broadcast our own internet radio station.
[03:20] <chamunks> One of my followers wants to do a network radio station.
[03:20] <bossman759_> it has to be radio? as in audio only?
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> chamunks, Followers?
[03:21] <chamunks> wilee-nilee, I run a minecraft network.
[03:21] <bossman759_> you can broadcast google hangouts on youtube
[03:21] <chamunks> yeaa no
[03:21] <Compn> chamunks : icecast ?
[03:21] <chamunks> icecast? hmm I'll google that
[03:21] <tofa> varunendra, I've found on multiboot systems it's usually safer to have a seperate boot partition. I've even got one for my single boot laptop.
[03:22] <varunendra> tofa, I mean the grub bootstrap program, not the grub config files. Separate /boot partition is fine. It is the boot loader that needs to be on MBR.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I have 4 OS one is W8 been runnig this way for years with no boot partition.
[03:24] <tofa> wilee-nilee, probably an unnecessary precaution. But this is the first time I've had an issue.
[03:25] <varunendra> tofa, during the installation, did you chose "Something else" option at the partitioning stage? I think you might have to manually tell the installer where the /boot partition is, so that grub gets installed correctly.
[03:25] <tofa> varunendra, Yes I did. I told it where the boot partition was and the home partition.
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> the mbr was empty is all
[03:27] <varunendra> tofa, in the same screen, it seems you chose a partition instead of the drive (sda<something> instead of sda). That was a wrong step.
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> When people want say easybcd for a bootloader you would install grub to the partition to keep the windows bootloader.
[03:27] <varunendra> for grub (boot loader) , tofa
[03:27] <tofa> wilee-nilee, Ok I've got the super grub thing going.
[03:27] <varunendra> oh yeah, with easy BCD it's a different thing wilee-nilee
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Choose the boot any or find any is I forget what it says exactly.
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, True I'm just saying if you want no grub menu you install to the partition. ;)
[03:29] <varunendra> Yup :)
[03:29] <tofa> wilee-nilee, oh god everything is stuffed!
[03:29] <varunendra> :/
[03:30] <tofa> wilee-nilee, it can't detect the ubuntu partition and when I boot into vmlinux it can't find the root.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Ah, sounds like a bad install to begin with is my guess.
[03:31] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913464/  Here's all those outputs you asked...
[03:31] <surio> varunendra, do you think reboot will help?
[03:31] <d4gg3r>  I want to compare two of my latex files and see the similarities between them. Any recommendation?
[03:31] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I agree. I think my iso must be damaged I'll redownload and reinstall.
[03:31] <tofa> d4gg3r, difftex.
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Cool, good luck.
[03:32] <varunendra> surio, sometimes, when there is a driver conflict and the offending one can't be removed normally..
[03:32] <varunendra> surio, wl is still loaded and conflicting for sure.
[03:32] <surio> modprobe -r wl ??
[03:32] <varunendra> tofa, I'd recomend torrent for download
[03:33] <varunendra> surio, yes "sudo modprobe -rfv wl"
[03:33] <varunendra> surio, did it finish successfully? The modprobe -rfv wl
[03:33] <d4gg3r> tofa, does it show the similarities? is there any way
[03:33] <d4gg3r> ?
[03:33] <tofa> varunendra, I use unetbootin to create the usb is that fine for ubuntu or should I use something else?
[03:33] <surio> varunendra, "FATAL: Module wl not found." o_O now what?
[03:34] <surio> tofa, unetbootin is fine
[03:34] <varunendra> tofa, unetbootin or anything that works is fine.
[03:34] <varunendra> surio, just reboot then.. :/
[03:34] <surio> tofa use a different usb?
[03:35] <tofa> d4gg3r, I haven't used it for a long while but I remember it being good.
[03:35] <surio> sometimes flash mem corruption is not detcted
[03:35] <varunendra> tofa, surio, as long as the usb is able to boot, it is fine too.
[03:36] <surio> varunendra, I have helped people on crunchbang, with a booting usb that borks the install.. Changing the USB helps, and a subsequent disk probe reveals errors
[03:36] <surio> hence the suggestion :-)
[03:36] <varunendra> surio, wait..
[03:36] <varunendra> reboot is not required
[03:36] <surio> still here :)
[03:36] <surio> was typing that response ;)
[03:36] <surio> so, let's go?
[03:37] <varunendra> surio, try - "sudo ifconfig eth2 down"
[03:37] <surio> man, right now eth is the only way I am communicating here
[03:37] <surio> nothing on console
[03:38] <surio> command executed though
[03:38] <varunendra> surio, then - "sudo modprobe -rfv brcmsmac" .... then ... "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac" (eth2 is in your iwconfig, maybe that's why wl is still loaded)
[03:39] <varunendra> surio, our target here is to unload wl (it shouldn't appear in lsmod), THEN load brcmsmac
[03:39] <surio> lsmod >> "wl                   3074942  0 " still there :(
[03:40] <surio> and wireless still won't blinking connect
[03:40] <varunendra> surio, assuming "bcmwl-kernel-source" is purged, just reboot :(
[03:41] <varunendra> surio, as a side note, you should get rid of TKIP in the router.
[03:41] <surio> le sigh!
[03:41] <surio> what's that?
[03:41] <surio> let's do it now... shall I open 192.168.1.1 ??
[03:42] <varunendra> surio, pure WPA2-PSK (AES) is recommended. TKIP is the encryption method, which is outdated and doesn't work well with linux.
[03:42] <surio> oh... wep
[03:42] <surio> yes, yes.. it is on the cards :)
[03:42] <surio> The ISP provider set it up like that
[03:43] <surio> After I get it working, I will update these...
[03:43] <varunendra> surio, no wep, no wpa/wpa2 mixed mode, .... pure wpa2 with AES instead on TKIP
[03:43] <varunendra> :)
[03:43] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I've made a new usb with a new iso on a new flash drive and have booted into the system. Can you take me through the install so this boot problem goes away?
[03:43] <surio> I understand. I will definitely do it over the weekend. okay see you in a bit :)
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Did you save home?
[03:44] <tofa> wilee-nilee, /home is on a seperate partition.
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I have never separated home, so I'm not sure there to be honest.
[03:45] <tofa> wilee-nilee, ok thanks.
[03:45] <varunendra> tofa, just goto manual partitioning mode and don't tell the installer that you have a separate /home. You can configure it later if required.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> tofa, My brain is about the size of a walnut I keep it really simple. ;)
[03:46] <varunendra> lol !!
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> me and homer simpson yah know
[03:46] <tofa> wilee-nilee, :)
[03:47] <xmetal> hmm
[03:48] <surio> varunendra, nope! There is no wl in lsmod, but the blinking thing still won't connect!
[03:49] <varunendra> surio, is brcmsmac loaded now? Output of - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net"
[03:49] <varunendra> and lsmod
[03:49] <xmetal> having issue with a "fork os" (no one ever seems to be talking in their room) ... boots liveUSb (That i know works 100%) to the point where it starts scrolling fast and (?? @ my way of explaining) shows a gray BG and shows the cursor (never response) and just "sits there"
[03:49] <surio> on lsmod, sure brcmsmac is shown
[03:49] <xmetal> searching the web now
[03:50] <tofa> wilee-nilee, installer is installing.
[03:50] <varunendra> surio, does it scan the network? (sudo iwlist scan)
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> cool
[03:51] <xmetal> on the pc that is having issues with this liveusb, i am going to see if i can run the liveusb is "graphics safe" mode
[03:51] <xmetal> (may be wrong terms to say it i know)
[03:52] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913515/    output from scan is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913517/
[03:53] <surio> tl;dr    it scans
[03:53] <metbsd> how to install ubuntu to my android phone
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> !#ubuntu_touch | metbsd
[03:54] <surio> ??
[03:54] <wilee-nilee>  !ubuntu_touch | metbsd
[03:55] <metbsd> ?
[03:55] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> Yeah
[03:55] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> was up
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> !touch | metbsd
[03:55] <varunendra> surio, sorry, was lost a bit... taking a look
[03:55] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> where do I found the kernel-headers?
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> metbsd, Sorry that is your channel.
[03:55] <nate15329> i have a 13.04 server that hangs on pci_bus root resource mem x28-fcffffffffff; i recently had bad memory removed any ideas?
[03:55] <surio> varunendra,  the wireless icon on my ubuntu taskbar is constantly "scanning" and then "Wireless network disconnected"ing
[03:55] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> some tip?
[03:56] <QTPieMan> hello i am always getting "Could not create directory" in wordpress
[03:56] <chamunks> Compn, Any experience with icecast?
[03:56] <complearning123> i need some help
[03:56] <varunendra> MOD5RN_W4RFAR5, "sudo apt-get install liunx-headers-generic"
[03:56] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> KOOL!!
[03:56] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> THANKS
[03:56] <complearning123> pls
[03:56] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> lets try
[03:56] <varunendra> np :)
[03:56] <QTPieMan> hello i am always getting "Could not create directory" in wordpress, what to do now how to fix it?
[03:56] <tofa> wilee-nilee, seems the other usb was broken.
[03:57] <complearning123> im brand new to this chat and to ubuntu
[03:57] <varunendra> surio, what does this show - "apt-cache show bcmwl-kernel-source | grep -i version" ?
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Ah, you running now?
[03:57] <complearning123> and i need some help
[03:57] <QTPieMan> its while i am trying to upload a file
[03:57] <varunendra> tofa, all good now ??
[03:57] <QTPieMan> or adding a plugin
[03:57] <QTPieMan> anybody to help atleast?
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> oh no
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> Package linux-headers-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> is only available from another source
[03:57] <FloodBot1> MOD5RN_W4RFAR5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> sorry
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> ok
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, Cool, just state the issue for help.
[03:58] <surio> varunendra,   "Version: 6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu0.0.1
[03:58] <surio> Version: 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[03:58] <surio> "
[03:58] <QTPieMan> varunendra, can u help me?
[03:58] <complearning123> ok
[03:58] <tofa> wilee-nilee, IT'S BOOTABLE!!!! Thank you so much for your help. It was a broken install :P. THANKS!
[03:59] <varunendra> surio, as a fallback we can try installing the older version, which has been proven to be better than the 6xx version.
[03:59] <complearning123> i installed ubuntu 10.04 then  upgraded to latest version now i cannot open ubuntu
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Cool great news. ;)
[03:59] <complearning123> the grub loader shows it but the files are messed up
[04:00] <surio> varunendra, I'm ready... Let's go
[04:00] <complearning123> and i dont know the commands to fix it
[04:00] <surio> Bu how?
[04:00] <QTPieMan> ikonia, can u plz help me?
[04:00] <tofa> wilee-nilee, Ubuntu is hard. I'm going back to gentoo :P.
[04:00] <tofa> Thanks guys.
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Heh, that is funny. ;)
[04:01] <varunendra> surio, please do - "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source=5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu6"
[04:01] <QTPieMan> hello i am always getting "Could not create directory" in wordpress, while uploading file or adding plugin etc, how to fix this?
[04:01] <complearning123> can anyone help me
[04:02] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> oh yeah
[04:02] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> i found the kernel headers!
[04:02] <surio> varunendra, chugging away....
[04:02] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> 55Mb
[04:02] <varunendra> QTPieMan, if that is the problem, then sorry, I'm of no help :(
[04:02] <surio> choo choo :P
[04:02] <varunendra> surio, what ?
[04:02] <QTPieMan> varunendra, ok
[04:02] <QTPieMan> running apache server btw
[04:03] <complearning123> guess not okay thanks anyway
[04:03] <complearning123> bye
[04:03] <chamunks> MOD5RN_W4RFAR5, I really hate your irc name
[04:03] <chamunks> its so long I cant shrink my ychat window
[04:04] <complearning123> is there a chat where i can get help with ubuntu
[04:04] <complearning123> or a forum
[04:04] <complearning123> does anyone know
[04:04] <surio> installing, varunendra :)
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, Try #ubuntu
[04:04] <complearning123> i was told to come here
[04:04] <varunendra> !ask | complearning123
[04:04] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, ?? LOL
[04:04] <complearning123> i thought this was #ubuntu
[04:04] <surio> complearning123, just type your question...
[04:05] <clue_h> complearning123, or http://ubuntuforums.org cache
[04:05] <QTPieMan> varunendra, can u tell me do i need some special permission for server?
[04:05] <surio> complearning123, just type your question...
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, ;)
[04:05] <complearning123> you really make a guy feel welcome
[04:05] <bberrymerry> can i post a question?
[04:05] <clue_h> no
[04:05] <QTPieMan> clue_h, ubuntu forum is no more -_-
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, You have to have some patience you are welcome here. ;)
[04:06] <surio> complearning123, please... just type the question, bberrymerry same for you too :)
[04:06] <clue_h> complearning123, i am all ears too
[04:06] <clue_h> so to speak
[04:06] <varunendra> QTPieMan, I never dealt with a server, but what kind of permissions and where ? Maybe ask to the channel instead of individuals..
[04:06] <complearning123> i installed ubuntu 10.04 then upgraded to latest version of ubuntu and now i cannot open ubuntu....says that the files are bad
[04:06] <bberrymerry> any way to speed up ubuntu 13.04 guest booting in virtual box? i switched to xfce4, it still takes a long time to boot
[04:07] <complearning123> what can i do
[04:07] <clue_h> QTPieMan, true but the cached pages can be accessed :]
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, You might just consider install 12.04 if that is what you mean by latest if this is a fresh install upgraded.
[04:07] <QTPieMan> clue_h, great idea
[04:07] <surio> varunendra, First I got some error, and when I clicked "show details" the whole thing crashed
[04:08] <varunendra> surio, so you're on a reboot now?
[04:08] <QTPieMan> varunendra, i mean lets say while uplpading a file or adding a file its not working
[04:08] <surio> not really... the crash gen application crashed!
[04:08] <clue_h> complearning123, a fresh install of 12,04 lts.
[04:08] <surio> retyped the command, and gor
[04:08] <surio> retyped the command, and got
[04:08] <surio> "surio@surio-pc:~$ sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source=5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[04:08] <surio> Reading package lists... Done
[04:08] <surio> Building dependency tree
[04:08] <surio> Reading state information... Done
[04:08] <surio> bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version.
[04:08] <FloodBot1> surio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, trying to find what the bad files means may be pointless and a waste of time.
[04:08] <complearning123> cant i use the command e2fsck to fix files
[04:08] <xmetal> i need to figure out the way to get this liveusb to ast least try to boot in "low graphics mode"
[04:08] <complearning123> and exactly what is the format
[04:09] <surio> whoops
[04:09] <surio> sorry
[04:09] <surio> Thought it would go on single line (4 lines only)
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> surio, You familiar with pastebin?
[04:09] <surio> ya ya..
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:09] <varunendra> surio, what does "dpkg -s bcmwl-kernel-source | grep -i version" show?
[04:09] <varunendra> then use it.. ;)
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> the bits are mean they just don't care
[04:09] <surio> I thought they will line up inline :P
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> bots*
[04:10] <surio> thanks smarties... like I don't know :P
[04:10] <surio> varunendra,  "Version: 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[04:10] <surio> "
[04:11] <surio> so we've rolled back?
[04:11] <complearning123> ok bye guys thanx
[04:11] <surio> varunendra, I reconnected, and it connected!
[04:11] <varunendra> surio, yeah now you are back to the wl driver, only the older version... how does it work?
[04:11] <surio> complearning123, you solved?
[04:11] <complearning123> no
[04:12] <AssFeverz> hi
[04:12] <varunendra> let's see if it stays connected.. surio
[04:12] <surio> complearning123,  The point is an upgrade from 10 to 12 is fraught with failure...
[04:12] <complearning123> i think im just going to reinstall ubuntu 10.04
[04:12] <surio> It is far better to reinstall 12.04
[04:12] <varunendra> complearning123, do you have anything important to save on the installation? If not, just do a fresh install of 12.04
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> offensive nicks are usually a pre-cursor to troubles
[04:13] <surio> complearning123, please don't go back 10 10.04... no londer supported and things will fail badly
[04:13] <complearning123> i have 10.04 disk  but not 12,04 and it takes forever to dl it
[04:13] <Compn> chamunks : icecast? like 10 years ago. and only with winamp, on windows. i'm not sure if icecast is the current way to do it, looks kind of outdated now. check http://www.shoutcast.com/broadcast-tools
[04:13] <chamunks> icecast2 seemed like the deal
[04:13] <complearning123> ok ill try and dl 12.04
[04:13] <chamunks> its aptgettable.
[04:13] <complearning123> thanx
[04:13] <surio> complearning123, not so bad is it... I am on a slow connection myself and the thing downloaded in a few hours max
[04:14] <complearning123> yeah youre right surio
[04:14] <varunendra> complearning123, an upgrade will download almost the same amount of data..
[04:14] <complearning123> that upgrade screwed me up
[04:14] <surio> it's worth it.... and you're hassle free until 2017
[04:14] <varunendra> complearning123, use torrent for downloading
[04:14] <complearning123> right thanks guys
[04:14] <complearning123> cant my isp blocks it
[04:14] <varunendra> :(
[04:14] <surio> complearning123, it is a known fact... 10 to 12 is rarely if ever, successful
[04:15] <complearning123> well  now i dont feel so dumb
[04:15] <complearning123> i thought i did something wrong
[04:15] <medubuntu> Empathy doesn't show all notifications(ubuntu 13.04)
[04:15] <surio> relax... don't do it.. frankie goes to hollywood :P
[04:15] <chamunks> Compn, is icecast itself not a relay?
[04:15] <chamunks> one of my associates is having a meltdown over this question.
[04:16] <surio> Right, ciao for now... thanks varunendra :)
[04:16] <Compn> chamunks : oh you want like a 3rd party to host the radio for you ?
[04:16] <varunendra> surio, np :)
[04:16] <Compn> host the stream
[04:16] <surio> I feel a little idiotic rolling back to older versions... varunendra
[04:16] <chamunks> Compn, nah we've got a crappy little 5$ vps somewhere on ubuntu
[04:16]  * holstein used to run an icecast server
[04:16] <Compn> ask holstein :)
[04:16]  * Compn cant remember for crap
[04:17] <complearning123> okay roomies thanks alot ill dl 12.04 have a great weekend everyone
[04:17] <varunendra> surio, we deviced that workaround after a lot of testing..
[04:17] <surio> I mean, on my next apt-get upgrade, are we not going to roll back to the new driver again?
[04:17] <medubuntu> Empathy doesn't show all notifications
[04:17] <chamunks> holstein,  we're just trying to send our audio to the icecast server then have that bounce off to the clients
[04:17] <chamunks> how ever that happens.
[04:17] <yuanjie> hello
[04:17] <surio> complearning123, byeee...
[04:17] <complearning123> au revoir surio
[04:17] <holstein> medubuntu: what is it that you want it to show, specificially? without repeating the same question, please
[04:18] <varunendra> surio, in fact there is a way in apt to "PIN" a version if you don't want to upgrade it (see "man apt_preferences")
[04:18] <surio> bberrymerry, I tink in general Vbox is slow... because of the layers
[04:18] <yuanjie> who can help me ? i can't use ubuntu
[04:18] <medubuntu> In 13.04, Empathy doesn't show all the bubble notifications and it can't be configured. In the preferences, I can only configure sounds notifications but not visuals. Empathy only shows bubble notifications when someone sends me a message, but not when someone gets connected or disconnected (in these cases I can hear a sound but without a bubble). ¿Is there a way to turn all the notifications on?
[04:18] <holstein> chamunks: it happens like this.. the users connect with a player, or in the browser.. you connect with a client to the server to stream whatever
[04:19] <holstein> chamunks: depending on what you are streaming would dictate the client i would suggest
[04:19] <bberrymerry> surio: much faster with 11.04 and 12.04
[04:19] <holstein> !info idjc
[04:19] <surio> varunendra, I have made a note, but my main motivation for installing 12.04.2 is from the LTS aspect
[04:19] <bberrymerry> surio: i disabled unity,  it's still slow to boot and run
[04:19] <chamunks> holstein, well we're looking to basically do a 24/7 stream of whatever including some apparently live broadcasts of our teamspeak banter.
[04:19] <surio> bberrymerry, sorry, for some reason, my VBoxes are all slow, hence my remark.. and I sort of lived with it :)
[04:19] <yuanjie> who can help me ?
[04:19] <holstein> !ask | yuanjie
[04:20] <varunendra> surio, unless you "PIN" this version, it will again get upgraded to version 6... while updating, which is no good. In 13.04 or 14.04, the native brcmsmac is good enough.
[04:20] <surio> yuanjie, type your question!
[04:20] <chamunks> yuanjie, only those who have the answer to the question for which you have not asked yet.
[04:20] <bberrymerry> maybe i'll try a xubuntu install instead, instead of ubuntu
[04:20] <surio> varunendra, the next LTS is 14.04 ?
[04:20] <varunendra> yes
[04:20] <holstein> bberrymerry: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. try it
[04:20] <yuanjie> yes
[04:20] <surio> varunendra, you are running 13?
[04:21] <yuanjie> i can't use ubuntu  who can teach me
[04:21] <surio> yuanjie, this is not a tutorial class, we help you with "specific" problems.. :)
[04:21] <holstein> !install | yuanjie
[04:21] <varunendra> surio, 12.04, but mine is an atheros card, not broadcom :)
[04:21] <yuanjie> i have learn english one month
[04:21] <chamunks> holstein, what would you imagine.  Some of us are using windows and such but I think that we managed to configure the icecast.xml in /etc/icecast2/
[04:22] <holstein> yuanjie: if you dont want to, or dont know how to install, just run it live
[04:22] <surio> varunendra, :( well, lucky you!
[04:22] <yuanjie> yes ! holstein
[04:22] <holstein> chamunks: i wouldnt imagine anything.. i would just confirm the server works with a client such as the one i just linked
[04:22] <surio> okay varunendra I will look into pinning it on version 5
[04:22] <medubuntu> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291155/empathy-doesnt-show-all-notifications
[04:22] <yuanjie> i can't install any software
[04:22] <chamunks> holstein, wait a sec where now?
[04:23] <holstein> chamunks: this is the simple tool i used to use http://butt.sourceforge.net/
[04:23] <varunendra> surio, I don't even have wireless networks around to test.... any modifications to your "lucky" comment now ;P
[04:23] <holstein> !info idjc
[04:23] <yuanjie> thank you !
[04:23] <holstein> ^^ chamunks, that is anothiner
[04:23] <holstein> another*
[04:23] <yuanjie> i have learned !
[04:23] <chamunks> holstein, right thank you I found butt on a youboob video
[04:23] <holstein> chamunks: there are other options such as darkice that use JACK, but i would consider that overkill for your purposes
[04:24] <Anaxandridas> Hi, guys, total noob here. Is Ubuntu particularly well suited to running VMs of significant size in it? Like, having one large VM that essentially acts as your computer, which you use for gaming, internet, everything.
[04:24] <chamunks> yea more then likely.
[04:24] <chamunks> its just an amature setup.
[04:24] <surio> see you all laters
[04:24] <holstein> Anaxandridas: i wouldnt game in a VM
[04:24] <Anaxandridas> Why is that?
[04:25] <holstein> Anaxandridas: performance
[04:25] <Anaxandridas> If that's a stupid question, I doubly apologise. I don't know WHY it's a stupid question, which is why I'm asking :D
[04:25] <Anaxandridas> Can you elaborate?
[04:25] <clue_h> You're already using processor time and  memory to create and run a vm
[04:25] <medubuntu> :/
[04:25] <holstein> Anaxandridas: not really.. the performance is not acceptable on my, or most hardware to host a virtual instance of an operating system for gaming
[04:25] <chamunks> holstein, seems we're having issues
[04:26] <yuanjie> 有人懂中文吗
[04:26] <holstein> chamunks: sure.. and you really dont know where
[04:26] <chamunks> may I PM you some details if you could maybe ping it yourself?
[04:26] <holstein> chamunks: what would i do? create one locally.. remove variables and test
[04:26] <chamunks> or I could pastebin our XML to see what can be done of course sanitized
[04:26] <holstein> chamunks: sure
[04:26] <chamunks> just so someone with eyes for this may be able to assist.
[04:27] <holstein> chamunks: you may query me
[04:28] <nathanbz> why is /etc/sysctl.conf missing on a fresh 12.04 install ?
[04:28] <medubuntu> :( not solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/291155/empathy-doesnt-show-all-notifications
[04:28] <holstein> medubuntu: what *specifically* are you trying to see?
[04:29] <bberrymerry> holstein: just wondering if xubuntu loads less services on startup compared to stock ubuntu, so it should load faster
[04:29] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: i use OS X as a host, multiple ubuntu VMs for servers
[04:30] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: no problems at all if you run a server instance, but ubuntu desktop in a vm is a bit slow
[04:30] <Anaxandridas> I'll be using Ubuntu as a host, I have no use for servers or anything like that.
[04:30] <holstein> bberrymerry: the reason to choose xubuntu is for xubuntu. xfce, the look and feel. the default applications
[04:30] <holstein> bberrymerry: it should seem faster, but at the end of it all, its still the same hardware
[04:30] <Anaxandridas> More like... Let's say if someone (hypothetically speaking) played a lot of torrented games. I figured maybe having a VM in which they played all those games, then just regularly wiping it, would be the most expedient solution to exploitations.
[04:30] <nathanbz> anyone ?
[04:31] <holstein> Anaxandridas: torrented games?
[04:31] <holstein> Anaxandridas: dont run "unsafe" games.. in VM or on metal
[04:31] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: windows games run badly in a vm :)
[04:31] <Anaxandridas> holstein, not entirely sure what the question there was.
[04:32] <holstein> Anaxandridas: games in general dont run well in VM
[04:32] <Anaxandridas> Also, I just accidentally closed the channel :P
[04:32] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: you need direct access to the hardware to get good 3d gaming performance, otherwise it's too slow
[04:32] <holstein> Anaxandridas: try it and see
[04:32] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: old point and click games are ok though
[04:32] <Anaxandridas> holstein, tried it with Windows XP before, didn't work. I'll take your word on it.
[04:32] <holstein> Anaxandridas: all i said was, dont run "unsafe" games at all.. in VM or otherwise
[04:32] <Anaxandridas> holstein, so the best advice would be... Have a completely different computer for "unsafe" games?
[04:32] <medubuntu> holstein
[04:32] <medubuntu> if new contacts entered Empathy doesn't show notifications
[04:33] <holstein> medubuntu: its not supposed to.. i would file a bug with empathy if you feel its a bug
[04:33] <holstein> medubuntu: have you found an empathy support venue?
[04:34] <holstein> medubuntu: https://wiki.gnome.org/Empathy#Contact_Information is where i would start..
[04:34] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: if you could image an existing windows partition, then you could use that... just wipe it and re-install the image if you get infected
[04:35] <Anaxandridas> Image an existing windows partition... ?
[04:35] <Anaxandridas> I'm sorry, bberrymerry, I'm REALLY noob.
[04:35] <medubuntu> holstein
[04:35] <medubuntu> thanks very much :)
[04:35] <yalex> hello how can i export a list of installed packages in ubuntu 12.04?
[04:36] <chamunks> holstein, my irc client pooed so I switched to something else.
[04:36] <holstein> Anaxandridas: you "clone" the "good" system.. experience an error, and revert to the saved clone
[04:36] <holstein> Anaxandridas: this would be arguably good practice for any OS
[04:36] <bberrymerry> image, as in make an exact partition copy of it... i don't know if there are any open source solutions, for commercial there's stuff like pqmagic or ghost
[04:37] <bberrymerry> any good open source cloning/imaging programs? that can handle ntfs
[04:38] <holstein> bberrymerry: "good" is a matter of opinion.. i like using clonezilla live
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> yalex: like backping up favorite packages?
[04:38] <yalex> yes lotuspsychje , need a list of all installed packages
[04:38] <bberrymerry> holstein: good as in reliable for cloning ntfs
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | yalex
[04:39] <yalex> ubottu, its a server so there's no gui
[04:39] <mike16112> Finally, A xchat server with someone talking for once
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> yalex: oh then i think you might wanna man dpkg
[04:40] <holstein> bberrymerry: i still stand by my recommendation
[04:43] <glebihan> yalex, dpkg-query -l | grep "ii "       will list all installed packages          dpkg --get-selections       will list the ones that were manually installed
[04:44] <dex> hey guys
[04:45] <dex> when the heck the forum is going to be normal?
[04:45] <yalex> thanks glebihan  how can i use dpkg to export all installed packages to use on another machine to install them?
[04:45] <dex> I'm really sick of ending up at maintenance page after seeking solutions thru google
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> dex: plz keep it polite in here
[04:46] <glebihan> !clone | yalex
[04:46] <dex> ok
[04:46] <dex> but i'm really tired of it
[04:46] <dex> got stuck for a week
[04:46] <dex> for one single driver
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> dex: instead of complaining, re-ask your issue here once in a while
[04:46] <dex> ok
[04:47] <dex> displaylink driver, anyone have solution?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !details | dex
[04:47] <dex> apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink is supposed to be working, but it says "unable to locate the package"
[04:47] <dex> i'm on 12.04
[04:48] <holstein> !info xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:49] <dex> and all the driver package or source codes have some sort of error in here or there
[04:49] <holstein> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:49]  * xmetal taking a break from liveusb issue
[04:49] <holstein> dex: you'll need to share the errors
[04:50] <dex> well I tried that page holstein, thanks but it didn't work, i will check how it didn't work
[04:50] <sh0ck> What drivers do I need for Nvidia GeForce 6150SW nForce 430, searched but can't find the answer
[04:50] <holstein> dex: its right in my sources here in 12.04
[04:50] <sh0ck> 6150SE I meant
[04:51] <holstein> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:51] <holstein> dex: ^^ and share *exact* errors
[04:51] <dex> that didn't work either T_T
[04:51] <dex> ok
[04:51] <holstein> !nvidea
[04:51] <holstein> !nvidia | sh0ck
[04:51] <sh0ck> i'm actually on arch
[04:52] <dex> dex: hmm
[04:52] <holstein> !arch
[04:52] <holstein> !archlinux
[04:52] <holstein> sh0ck: you'll need to be running ubuntu to use the drivers from the ubuntu repos
[04:53] <dex> U
[04:53] <glebihan> sh0ck, how about asking in #archlinux instead of here then ?
[04:53] <dex> npacking xserver-xorg-video-displaylink (from .../xserver-xorg-video-displaylink_0.3-0ubuntu4_i386 (1).deb) ...
[04:53] <dex> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg-video-displaylink:
[04:53] <dex>  xserver-xorg-core (2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6.2) breaks xserver-xorg-video-6 and is installed.
[04:53] <dex>   xserver-xorg-video-displaylink (0.3-0ubuntu4) provides xserver-xorg-video-6.
[04:53] <dex> dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg-video-displaylink (--install):
[04:53] <FloodBot1> dex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <dex>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:54] <sh0ck> Okay, sorry to have disturbed you ubuntu fellas.
[04:54] <dex> that''s the error message i got from installation
[04:54] <dex> holstein: hello
[04:56] <holstein> dex: it installed for me, without error.. ubuntu 12.04
[04:56] <holstein> dex: do you have any graphic related PPA's?
[04:56] <dfdgdfdg> Hi there , How do I get virtualbox to pick up my xmodmap keys ?
[04:58] <holstein> dex: holstein@aphrodite:~$ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:58] <holstein> Reading package lists... Done
[04:58] <holstein> Building dependency tree
[04:58] <holstein> Reading state information... Done
[04:58] <holstein> The following NEW packages will be installed: xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:58] <holstein> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:58] <FloodBot1> holstein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <glebihan> dex, please post the full output of your command on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:01] <holstein> like i tried to do ;)
[05:02] <scootypuff> has anyone tried using wps office (the ms office clone)?
[05:02] <holstein> scootypuff: i use libreoffic or google docs
[05:02]  * varunendra chuckles at holstein having fun with the bot.. ;)
[05:07] <dex>  xserver-xorg-core : Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-6
[05:07] <dex> does this mean something?
[05:10] <ProChild> hey
[05:10] <varunendra> dex, it means it will replace that 'breaking' package and will install itself in its place.
[05:10] <ProChild> is there like different version of ubuntu
[05:11] <ProChild> i need a pre setup ubuntu that has all the tools for stuff like packet sniffers and debbugers
[05:11] <ProChild> a hackers tool book sort of
[05:11] <dex> hey bot
[05:11] <dex> how can i paste image
[05:12] <xmetal> wouldn't it just be easier to use BackTrace?
[05:12] <xmetal> er backtrack i
[05:12] <varunendra> ProChild, there are derivatives like that, nothing in Ubuntu itself. Check out #backtrack and kali-linux
[05:12] <xmetal> (or did i have it right the first time?)
[05:12] <glebihan> dex, you don't need to poste an image, you only need to paste the output of your command on http://paste.ubuntu.com , as already asked for
[05:14] <dex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913661/
[05:14] <dex> this is the result
[05:14] <dex> some are repeated
[05:15] <glebihan> dex, didn't you say you were running 12.04 ?
[05:15] <dex> i think i do
[05:15] <dex> how can i know it
[05:15] <glebihan> dex, in terminal : lsb_release -a
[05:15] <dex> until now i think i run on 12.04
[05:16] <dex> woops
[05:16] <dex> it's 12.10
[05:16] <dex> does that change something?
[05:17] <glebihan> dex, it does, the package you're trying to install does not exist in 12.10, hence the errors
[05:17] <dex> ah.. why...
[05:17] <dex> why later version doesn't support it
[05:17] <dex> should i downgrade to 12.04
[05:19] <redwarriors29> how to install thunderbird in ubuntu
[05:19] <nate15329> ok...i have a pci_root PNP0A03:00: fail to add MMConfig information and then it hangs on pci_bus resource mem...any ideas?
[05:20] <dex> 12.10 why you don't have displayLink~~~!
[05:20] <varunendra> redwarriors29, which version of Ubuntu? The currently supported ones already have it preinstalled.
[05:21] <glebihan> dex, I don't know. My guess would be that it's supported via another package or default in the kernel, but I cna't find any relevant info
[05:22] <redwarriors29> 10.04
[05:22] <Hexagonite> Anyone know a light Ubuntu distro besides Lubuntu and Xubuntu?
[05:23] <wrvtta> Linux Mint is good
[05:23] <Hexagonite> still bloated though. :(
[05:25] <Fishscene> With or without GUI? Ubuntu server is fairly lightweight
[05:25] <Hexagonite> with GUI, of course
[05:26] <bberrymerry> something for development? i'm looking for a lightweight distro for ARM devel
[05:26] <Hexagonite> elementaryOS looks great, but it's based on Ubuntu 12.04
[05:30] <redwarriors30> i cant install thunderbird in ubuntu 10.04
[05:30] <redwarriors30> root@ba-educ-desktop:/home/ba_educ# sudo apt-get updateE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory root@ba-educ-desktop:/home/ba_educ# sudo apt-get update --fix-missing E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory root@ba-educ-desktop:/home/ba_educ#
[05:30] <redwarriors30> how can i fix it
[05:31] <dex> dependency is not satisfiable : xorg-video-abi-11
[05:32] <dex> when installing xserver-xorg-video-displaylink for 12.10
[05:32] <dex> why my xserver-xorg-core doesn't have that dependency?
[05:33] <dex> error after error , one error solved, another error stand in its way,
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> redwarriors30, This 10.04 desktop, and why are you in root if so?
[05:36] <we6jbo> I got a question
[05:39] <bong> i cant install thunderbird in ubuntu 10.04
[05:39] <dfdgdfdg> !ask we6jbo
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> bong, this the desktop version and were you redwarriors30?
[05:40] <bong> im frm phils
[05:40] <bong> i cant install thunderbird in ubuntu 10.04
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> !10.04 | bong
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> !eol | bong
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> bong, If you can answer questions the channel may be able to help. ;)
[05:43] <bong> so how can i installl this
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> bong, Are you running in root oe just trying to install from it in the terminal?
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> or*
[05:44] <bong> im in root right now
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> bong, In the terminal with a command?
[05:44] <bong> yes im i was trying to install in terminal
[05:44] <bong> apt-get install thunderbird
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> bong, You don't want to root the terminal to install.
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> use sudo
[05:45] <bong> and how
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> bong, 10.04 is end of life if you can't get it it may be to no access to the repos, can you run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin it?
[05:46] <dex> hey guys
[05:46] <dex> how do i know which desktop I run?
[05:46] <bong> ok how to pastebin
[05:46] <dex> in terminal which command lets me know what desktop i do?
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | bong
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> dex, What did you choose at login
[05:47] <bong> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913742/
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> bong, Have you run a sudo apt-get update in the terminal not in root?
[05:49] <bong> yes
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> bong, Thunderbird is in a stock install did you remove it?
[05:51] <bong> where is that
[05:51] <bong> nope
[05:51] <bong> where i can find it
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> bong, Should be in the menu, I have not used gnome 2 in a long time, so I don't remember the exact place.
[05:52] <bong> theres nothing thunderbird here
[05:53] <bong> i download thunder but it is in tar
[05:53] <bong> how can i install this
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> bong, try thunderbird in the terminal
[05:53] <bong> what comman
[05:53] <bong> what command
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> just thunderbird
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> if it is installed it will show bong
[05:55] <bong> it cant
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> bong, So why do you need to run 10.04 it is end of life?
[05:56] <bong> my computer cant support new version of linux
[05:56] <cfhowlett> bong, xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for older machines.
[05:58] <bong> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913770/
[05:59] <cfhowlett> bong, recommend you torrent 12.04 xubuntu or lubuntu, make an install usb/cd and test it.  You might just be pleasantly surprised.
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> bong, I suspect since you are end of life the regular repos are not accessible.
[06:01] <vino> I have a program that's not able make a connection and i want to see if i have a firewall on. how do i look at my firewall settings on 12.04?
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !firewall|Vino,
[06:03] <Vino> does "status: inactive" mean I'm not blocking any ports?
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> Vino, You might name the program.
[06:04] <Vino> Steam for Linux
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> never used it myself
[06:15] <FreeBuntu> Hi there..., anybody with some background.... is willing to help for free ?.....I just finished installing "Ubuntu 10.4(Lucid Lynx)" and want to create a dual boot system with "FreeBSD 5".....you know,  "FreeBSD 5" is not being recognized as an bootable OS..., so how do i manage ?
[06:16] <cfhowlett> FreeBuntu 10.04 desktop is end of life.
[06:17] <SMB> .
[06:22] <santhosh> hai how to install .exe file in linux woth out wine is there ant alternative software for that ine
[06:24] <cfhowlett> santhosh, windows files run in windows.  wine provides a layer to emulate a windows environment.  No emulator, no install.
[06:24] <DuncanNZ> Can I use the `command-not-found` program (which suggests a package to install if you type a command from a package not installed) on zsh? It works already on bash.
[06:25] <santhosh> is there any similar software like a wine to create layer like windows
[06:26] <cfhowlett> santhosh, look in the software center.  some reason you can't use wine?
[06:26] <nate15329> santhosh, try using letsplayonlinux (it runs on wine but more configurable and user friendlier)
[06:27] <cfhowlett> santhosh, perhaps install windows inside a virtualbox and run your program there.
[06:27] <santhosh> but dot net frameworks are installed on playon linux
[06:28] <santhosh> no <cfhowlett> i have software on windows i want to migrate in linux in that case iam asking
[06:29] <cfhowlett> santhosh, you know how Apple progams don't run natively on anything except Apple?  Same rule applies.
[06:30] <santhosh> so im not install .netframeworks in linux is there any soluation for install .netframework
[06:30] <nate15329> dot net frameworks are supported, i believe. may have to tell it to use the mono project...its been a while since i used playonlinux
[06:30] <situ> Is there a way to avoid routing all traffic through VPN after a user connects to VPN ?
[06:31] <nate15329> mono project is the closest thing to the .net framework in linux
[06:32] <sophie_> Does Ubuntu still use Xorg?
[06:32] <santhosh> i install mono project but can,t install .netframework
[06:34] <cfhowlett> santhosh, what program are you hoping to install
[06:35] <santhosh> secure view for office cam
[06:36] <cfhowlett> santhosh, don't get your hopes up.  Pretty sure there are some open source alternatives available.
[06:36] <santhosh> my company using that one on windows i want to change it in ti linux
[06:37] <cfhowlett> santhosh, virtualbox>windows>secureview
[06:38] <sophie_> Virtualbox is what I'd do unless a program needed 3D acceleration.
[06:38] <santhosh> ok good idea thanks for that
[06:38] <santhosh> but direct linux is not possible
[06:38] <nate15329> i agree with cfhowlett..and virtualbox has the ability to do 3D acceleration...just not much of it
[06:39] <sophie_> Getting program to work with WINE is often a pain.
[06:44] <baby> hello
[06:47] <Zespre> chihhsin: Hi
[06:48] <baby> hola
[06:48] <lauratika> im running 12.04, how can i know if i have full disk encryption?, i know i encrypted my home folder.
[06:49] <wooter> lauratika: plugging the hard drive into a different computer with linux running...see if the data is visible
[06:50] <dex> hello guys
[06:50] <dex> how to upgrade from 12.10 to latest one from terminal?
[06:50] <dex> which command lets me do that task?
[06:50] <babinlonston> lauratika:use command tune2fs -l /dev/sda
[06:50] <lauratika> wooter: can do that
[06:51] <lauratika> babinlonston: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda
[06:51] <wooter> try elevate privilege
[06:52] <babinlonston> lauratika: use sudo  ------>    sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
[06:52] <lauratika>  Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda
[06:52] <lauratika> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[06:53] <wooter> even loading a live ubuntu cd on that computer, see if you can mount the hdd and read data
[06:55] <babinlonston> lauratika: first check your partitions by using tune2fs -l /dev/sda1    and for sda2 u ill get all info about your  partitions
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> dex: i'm searching now but i think it's 'do-release-upgrade' i'll need to checj though
[06:56] <newbie008> is there a tablet that runs ubuntu or linux? All features without chroot?
[06:56] <babinlonston> lauratika: use sudo if ur not in Privileged User
[06:57] <paul_> Seems like there was a tablet announce at OMGUbuntu site last year that had Kubuntu, you might find it in their old articles
[06:58] <lauratika> babinlonston: only sda3 and sda6 gives outputs
[06:58] <newbie008> paul_ sounds out of date and underpowered..
[06:59] <sophie_> How much proprietary software makes up the code of Ubuntu nowadays? (Minus the third party stuff that's an optional install).
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> isn't ubuntu on arm limited on applications use? aswell as flash, so it's functionality is a little less than a standard android tablet
[06:59] <babinlonston> lauratika: check how many partitions are there mounted df -h
[06:59] <newbie008> paul_ I take that back
[07:02] <lauratika> babinlonston: odd just 2 partitions mounted
[07:05] <MiteshShah> ed command not found , which package provide ed command
[07:05] <MiteshShah> and how to search
[07:05] <babinlonston> lauratika: have a lot at my output from tune2fs http://pastebin.com/GaVKSPFE
[07:06] <MiteshShah> and how to search for packge which provide that command
[07:06] <babinlonston> lauratika:  check the line Filesystem features:      has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super huge_file uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize , if there is Encrypted mentiond ur Partition is Encrypted
[07:06] <auronandace> !info ed | MiteshShah
[07:06] <xormor> MiteshShah: apt-cache search package-or-program-name
[07:07] <lauratika>  sudo mount -a
[07:07] <lauratika> i try mount: mount point 0 does not exist
[07:07] <xormor> auronandace: I prefer "joe"
[07:07] <MiteshShah> xormor: its give more then 100 package list
[07:07] <xormor> MiteshShah: ok...
[07:07] <auronandace> xormor: he wanted ed
[07:07] <MiteshShah> auronandace: i know about ed
[07:07] <xormor> auronandace: ok, thanks.
[07:08] <MiteshShah> auronandace: i just want to know which packge provide that text editor
[07:08] <auronandace> MiteshShah: the package is called ed, as the bot just showed you
[07:08] <MiteshShah> auronandace: thanks :)
[07:09]  * newbie008 aparently nexus 7 is supported by ubuntu
[07:10] <babinlonston>  lauratika: u cant get output from sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 ?
[07:11] <lauratika> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913896/
[07:11] <lauratika> llok mine
[07:12] <lauratika> *look
[07:13] <Mackwerk> Hello, I have a script in /etc/init, but it seems upstart doesnt see it? I cant do start myscript.conf :o
[07:13] <babinlonston> lauratika: your home directory is encrypted
[07:15] <babinlonston> lauratika:your home directory is encrypted and there is only 2 partitions u have defined one is /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda6 , Check the output for sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda3
[07:16] <lauratika> babinlonston: yeah the home folder is, what about the entire HD?
[07:16] <lauratika> i have home in one partition, ubuntu in another and swap
[07:16] <babinlonston> lauratika: check for sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda6 and compare the filesystem line what says there must be a word as encrypted
[07:18] <lauratika> sda6 is!... as you post  has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize
[07:18] <lauratika> but what about the partition where windoze is?
[07:22] <babinlonston> lauratika: Sure your Entire Disk Wont be Encrypted , if so u will ask for a password while u boot , if its fully encrypted boot partition will ask for as password
[07:23] <lauratika> is there a way to encrypt the whole disk??
[07:25] <radiovstv> anyone play Dota 2? I'm having some font issues
[07:25] <babinlonston> lauratika: yes its possible
[07:26] <lauratika> what application you rekon??
[07:27] <Anaxandridas> Hi guys, noob here. Wanted to install Cinnamon, because I'm still detoxing from Windows and it looks similar. Went to this site, put in the said commands. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cinnamon-1-8-on-ubuntu-13-04.html.
[07:28] <Anaxandridas> Nothing has changed though. Advise?
[07:28] <lauratika> Anaxandridas: reboot?
[07:28] <babinlonston> http://www.rationallyparanoid.com/articles/ubuntu-12-lts-security.html
[07:29] <lauratika> babinlonston: thanx
[07:29] <zeev_> Hi, is there a way to prevent users from running arbitrary binary programs except of those installed?
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> zeev_: [never tried this before] couldn't you just have a user account with no priviliges so they couldn't change anything to executable?
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, Cinnamon is in the repos for raring
[07:32] <Anaxandridas> wilee-nilee, what does that mean? I'm a noob.
[07:32] <Anaxandridas> "In the repos for raring"?
[07:32] <babinlonston> Who need Cinnamon ?
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, It means you don't need a ppa repos are repositories ubuntu has there own, its where you get packages.
[07:33] <auronandace> !software | Anaxandridas
[07:33] <Anaxandridas> ... wilee-nilee, that's great, but I still don't know how to put cinnamon on the computer.
[07:33] <zeev_> aeon-ltd: but if they copy something that has already x privilige?
[07:33] <lauratika> Anaxandridas: llok for it in ubuntu centre
[07:33] <Anaxandridas> I did that. Searching for cinnamon didn't bring it up.
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> zeev_: ... didn' think about that
[07:34] <Anaxandridas> I can find it other ways, but it says it's on there now.
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, If you have installed the ppa if you want that one did you run a update?
[07:34] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: https://github.com/babinlonston/Ubuntu-Linux-Stuffs/wiki/How-to-Install-latest-Cinnamon-1.6.4-in-Ubuntu-12.10-12.04-Linux-Mint
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> zeev_: strip the UI, remove keybindings, limit menus?
[07:34] <Anaxandridas> So I have an option to remove it... wilee-nilee, yes, I ran the update.
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, you are not helping.
[07:34] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: Have a look at my git hub
[07:35] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: whts wrong ?
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, It is in the ubuntu repos in  raring
[07:35] <Anaxandridas> babinlonston, I already did that. I'm doing it again now, to be sure, but it looks like that's the same thing as on the site I already pulled up.
[07:36] <babinlonston> fine
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, PPA's are generally not supported here, so it might be worth removing the PPA and installing from ubuntu. it is up to you, All you have to do to install is in the terminal run sudo apt-get install cinnamon.
[07:37] <Anaxandridas> Second time through doing that, I put in "apt-get install build-essential" and got told this... "Could not open lock file var/lib/dpkg/locl. Unable to lock the administrator directory.
[07:37] <reisio> yeah if you can get it from an official repo, why wouldn't you
[07:38] <Anaxandridas> reisio, while I appreciate the rhetoric, I'm asking you how to do exactly that. So we don't need to philosophize.
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, You can only have one install app open at once.
[07:38] <Anaxandridas> wilee-nilee, is there a way I can wipe that and start over? And do it properly?
[07:38] <reisio> Anaxandridas: I just got here :)
[07:38] <Sysiphus> Hi , I am looking for somebody that tells me how to get "FreeBSD 5" and "Ubuntu 10.04" running as a Dual-Boot-System
[07:38] <paolob> Hi guys! what streaming platform are there which can deliver content to all clients? I'm looking for an alternative to ms silverlight to uso on my web site
[07:38] <reisio> Sysiphus: install one, then install the other, that's 99% of it
[07:39] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: i have installed 30 client machine here in office , in ubuntu 12.04 we installed cinnamoan and its working fine
[07:39] <aeon-ltd> paolob: mp4+html5?
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, Do you have the software center open?
[07:39] <reisio> paolob: silverlight is a browser plugin, you don't really need one of those to stream things
[07:39] <Anaxandridas> You guys are saying to install it through the software center. Which is seems to have done (now it tells me I can only remove it). So, would removing it and reinstalling it from the same place do anything?
[07:39] <reisio> paolob: you just need a streaming server, like icecast :)
[07:39] <Anaxandridas> babinlonston, I appreciate that you have successfully installed it. I need to install it, too.
[07:40] <paolob> reisio, I mean a video streamer
[07:41] <reisio> paolob: icecast streams video, too
[07:41] <BrightNewFuture> I've been working on getting an Internet connection working again after installing Ubuntu on a laptop. Not going easy. Anyone interested please add comments to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/232886.
[07:42] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: follow my steps in github buddy ... its wprked for me so what i have put it in wiki  if u need it to remove what already have installed ssh from any other machine to which u need to get installed and remove it using #apt-get remove cinnamon && apt-get purge cinnamon && apt-get autocleanall  then try to install from my steps
[07:42] <Sysiphus> feel free to message me at anytime...., please...
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, And your aware that PPA's are not supported here, is that the best advice when cinnamon is in the ubuntu repos?
[07:44] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: http://pastebin.com/h4Fhwe5y look here
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, You understnad I don't care if they install cinnamon it is whether they can get support
[07:45] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: what u mean ?
[07:45] <Anaxandridas> babinlonston, I appreciate you continuing to paste those instructions here, in various ways, but it was following those instructions that didn't render a result, which is why I'm here asking.
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | babinlonston
[07:45] <wilee-nilee>  WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages,
[07:45] <reisio> lord the spam
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> lol
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, Anyway best of luck.
[07:46] <babinlonston> ok guys did u guys need proof its supporting me ?
[07:46] <Anaxandridas> wilee-nilee, help is appreciated rather more than luck ;)
[07:47] <dance4x> does anyone here have the sable complete from system76? thinking about getting it but looking for some reviews.
[07:47] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: install virtual manager with kvm and install ubuntu12.04 in it and then install cinnamon in it and check its supporting or not after there try in your base system if u feel any think go wrong
[07:49] <reisio> I don't know what you guys are talking about now
[07:49] <reisio> but kvm to try cinnamon sounds like a huge waste of time :)
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> I give up. lol
[07:51] <Anaxandridas> So, I've gotten three answers now. One is "your question is not supported", which I don't really understand, as this seems to be a chat room for #ubuntu questions, by people who just feel like helping out. One is "do the exact same thing you did, that rendered no result, which is why you came here," and the last is "use KVM to install ubuntu12.04 and then install cinnamon in it" which I'm not
[07:51] <Anaxandridas> sure makes sense... But maybe I'm just too stupid to see it.
[07:51] <reisio> Anaxandridas: tell me what the initial problem was :)
[07:52] <chalcedony> :)
[07:52]  * reisio isn't paid by Canonical
[07:52] <chalcedony> reisio, that's nice
[07:52] <Anaxandridas> Ultimate, the question is... I installed it via directions from the sites previously posted, AND I have installed it via software center. However, I am still not looking at a Cinnamon desktop.
[07:52] <reisio> ikr? :)
[07:52] <RobHaz> miaauw
[07:52] <RobHaz> miaauw
[07:52] <chalcedony> volunteering on irc is a good thing :)
[07:52] <reisio> RobHaz: fffft
[07:52] <RobHaz> WOEF
[07:52] <RobHaz> Woef
[07:52] <RobHaz> woef
[07:52] <RobHaz> :D
[07:52] <reisio> right, woef
[07:52] <babinlonston>  Anaxandridas: while login u have to choose the cinnamon
[07:53] <dance4x> is there really any difference between getting a device from system76 vs getting one from asus and then putting ubuntu on it?
[07:54] <reisio> dance4x: the only for sure difference is that if you get it from asus, you are giving Microsoft money :)
[07:54] <reisio> dance4x: the rest will vary
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, I would talk with reisio If it were me, that be good help. ;)
[07:54] <RobHaz> dance4x: DONT GIVE MS MONEY!
[07:54] <Anaxandridas> wilee-nilee, we're PMing now ;) Thank you. And, sorry, didn't realise you were Canonical staff.
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !caps | RobHaz
[07:54] <RobHaz> OOh
[07:54] <dance4x> i can get the computer for a lower price with free 2 day shipping if i do asus instead of system76
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, Cool, I'm not. ;)
[07:55] <RobHaz> wilee-nilee: are you canoncial?
[07:55] <dance4x> im not really worried about giving MS money if i get a lower price
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !ot | dance4x
[07:55] <lissyx> Hello
[07:55] <reisio> dance4x: that's your prerogative :p
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> ok guys lets stick to ubuntu support
[07:55] <RobHaz> !guidelines | dance4x
[07:55] <reisio> dance4x: if you know it's hardware that GNU/Linux will support, then you know as much as anyone
[07:55] <lissyx> anyone skilled about udisks ? I'm having an issue on my 13.04 laptop, old devices mounted by udisks are still listed in udisksctl status
[07:56] <dance4x> does this not count as ubuntu support?
[07:56] <lissyx> this makes the /media/ path going crazy sometimes
[07:56] <RobHaz> dance4x: Whats up?
[07:57] <histo> lissyx: what do you mean going crazy?
[07:57] <lissyx> histo, bad path being computed
[07:57] <dance4x> i am trying to figure out the differences between getting a desktop that is made for ubuntu or getting one that comes with windows and putting ubuntu on it
[07:57] <dance4x> like what are the problems associated with not getting a desktop from system76 or thinkpenguin, etc.
[07:58] <dance4x> is it worth it to pay extra for a desktop from a linux company i guess is my question
[07:58] <aeon-ltd> dance4x: which costs less? then is the gpu/wifi/eth/audio supported in linux?
[07:58] <lissyx> histo, yesterday night I plugged a drive with label 'Sauvegardes' as sdb1, now I'm plugging another with another label (it's detected as sdb1 too, since I've removed the other one), and I'm getting udisksctl mounting it to /media/alex/Sauvegardes/ instead of /media/alex/FirefoxOS/
[07:59] <anonymouschen> Hey there
[07:59] <reisio> dance4x: excluding the ms tax you don't care about, and the price which you do, the only difference would be whether all the hardware is supported by GNU/Linux
[07:59] <reisio> dance4x: with a system76 box that is rather a given
[07:59] <anonymouschen> I'm having this problem with unity
[07:59] <reisio> dance4x: with an asus box it's very likely, but not a certainty
[07:59] <reisio> dance4x: a little research on your part could confirm it one way or the other, however
[07:59] <anonymouschen> where amazon adds keeps displaying
[07:59] <anonymouschen> after disabling from privacy settings
[07:59] <dance4x> reisio so i just need to make sure that all the hardware is compatible?
[07:59] <reisio> anonymouschen: you probably need to uninstall the package
[08:00] <reisio> anonymouschen: something like this: http://lifehacker.com/5953180/how-to-remove-amazon-ads-from-ubuntu-1210
[08:00] <anonymouschen> after disabling like 10 sec later ubuntu crashed and everything is reinable
[08:00] <histo> lissyx: are you sure the label is different on the new one?
[08:00] <reisio> dance4x: yup
[08:00] <dance4x> reisio like processor, graphics card, etc.
[08:00] <lissyx> histo, and a 'udisksctl status' shows my old devices, and those are also listed in the "Devices" section of nautilus
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> anonymouschen, Did you clear recent items?
[08:00] <reisio> dance4x: webcam, wireless
[08:00] <anonymouschen> Yeah
[08:00] <reisio> dance4x: if it has something like nvidia optimus, think about that
[08:00] <anonymouschen> Well
[08:00] <lissyx> histo, yes.
[08:00] <reisio> etc., etc.
[08:00] <anonymouschen> that's not the cause
[08:01] <anonymouschen> I was installing packages
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> dance4x: the bigger problems are definitely wifi+gpu, even if the gpu works it's performance will not reach the same as win anytime soon
[08:01] <anonymouschen> to compile
[08:01] <lissyx> histo, http://pastebin.com/4haEaVB6
[08:01] <anonymouschen> libimobiledevice
[08:01] <wilee-nilee> !enter | anonymouschen
[08:01] <anonymouschen> Sorry
[08:01] <guddu> hi
[08:02] <guddu> anyone tell me how to use kvpn in ubuntu
[08:02] <dance4x> reisio aeon-ltd so anything with nvidia for the gpu is probably off limits?
[08:02] <reisio> dance4x: no not at all
[08:02] <reisio> dance4x: but if you want to know what you're getting into, that's what to look into
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> dance4x: it's the hybrid intel/nvidia switching in laptops you have to watch for
[08:03] <guddu> anyone help me??
[08:03] <anonymouschen> Out of curiousity does anyone know the progress of reinstalling the ubuntu forums
[08:03] <dance4x> reisio aeon-ltd i am looking at the certified hardware list on the ubuntu website, but is there another site where it has specific parts?
[08:03] <anonymouschen> as in is it close to be back up or what
[08:03] <reisio> anonymouschen: AFAICT anyone that knows has been instructed to not say :)
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> guddu, Not with a statement of the problem to the channel.
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> without*
[08:04] <reisio> anonymouschen: google et al. probably still have cached copies, though, if you just want to search it
[08:04] <guddu> i'm new here
[08:04] <histo> lissyx: I would check gnome-disks and see what the disk is being seen as
[08:04] <lissyx> histo, gnome-disks displays the same
[08:04] <guddu> and i dont know how to use it, i want to start VPN
[08:04] <lissyx> histo, and displays my old unplugged drive ...
[08:05] <lissyx> histo, http://i.imgur.com/NF6jPfj.png look the Devices (« Périphériques ») section
[08:06] <lissyx> histo, and browsing dbus shows similar behavior
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> dance4x: i don't know of any, but since pc spec lists are easy to find you can google for them plus terms like ubuntu/linux + problems/not working/hdmi not working etc
[08:07] <lissyx> histo, restating udisksd clears the list
[08:07] <histo> lissyx: does it correct the read after restarting udisks?
[08:07] <lissyx> histo, let me check
[08:07] <dance4x> aeon-ltd k. thank you for the help. i'll start googling around.
[08:08] <lissyx> histo, seems so
[08:08] <lissyx> histo, what bothers me the most is that each time I do udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/... then udisksctl unmount --block-device /dev/... it populates the device list
[08:09] <histo> lissyx: why are you running udiskctl?
[08:09] <lissyx> histo, and removing the device, udisks keeps it in memory
[08:09] <lissyx> histo, to mount the device ?
[08:09] <histo> lissyx: devices should be automounted by udisk
[08:09] <lissyx> histo, but the behavior is the same using the nautilus UI
[08:09] <histo> lissyx: and udisk rules
[08:10] <lissyx> histo, well I can't explain why but it does not automount for the eSATA card
[08:10] <lissyx> histo, as far as I can say plain old usb devices are automounted correctly
[08:13] <histo> lissyx: You may have to write a rule for that particular disk to get automounted
[08:14] <executor_> hello
[08:14] <lissyx> histo, do you have any link to man page/ref for this ?
[08:14] <reisio> excelsiora: 'lo
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> anonymouschen, We only know what the splash says.
[08:15] <histo> lissyx: I'm looking now for something that would be the "ubuntu" way
[08:16] <lissyx> histo, found this discussion http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2011-June/001094.html
[08:16] <lissyx> histo, that might explain why eSATA drive not automatically mounted
[08:18] <histo> lissyx: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man5/udisks-glue.conf.5.html  This looks interesting
[08:21] <histo> ex9t: hello
[08:22] <histo> lissyx: also you didn't really need to use udiskctl if you are manually mounting mount would be sufficient. But if you want automounting the last link I posted looks easy enough.
[08:23] <suomynon> hi
[08:23] <lissyx> histo, what do you mean ? "mount would be sufficient"
[08:23] <histo> lissyx: mount /dev/of/disk /where/to/mount
[08:23] <lissyx> histo, well it complains the mount point does not exists
[08:23] <reisio> hi suomynon
[08:23] <histo> !! sudo
[08:24] <suomynon> i have some trouble with linuxdc++ can you help me?
[08:24] <histo> lissyx: you have to mkdir /path/to/somewhere before you can mount to somewhere
[08:24] <histo> !details | suomynon
[08:24] <lissyx> histo, which is what I wanted to avoid doing
[08:25] <lissyx> histo, since /media/<user>/ is somehow managed by udisks, I don't like the idea of mkdir myself
[08:25] <histo> lissyx: sudo mkdir /media/whatever && sudo mount /dev/blah## /media/whatever
[08:26] <suomynon> i can't download nothing. i have set the TCp and UDP in the router but i can't download files
[08:26] <lissyx> histo, which is not nice
[08:26] <histo> lissyx: If not then create a udisk-glue conf and have it automount esata like normal
[08:26] <lissyx> histo, udisks-glue seems to be needed
[08:26] <g105b> The default gnome-terminal doesn't tab-auto-complete any more, how can I fix it?
[08:26] <histo> lissyx: it is nice, the mount point doesn't need to be in /media you can mkdir /home/lissyx/mountpoint  and mount it there
[08:27] <reisio> g105b: 'reset'?
[08:27] <histo> g105b: is bash-completion installed?
[08:27] <lissyx> histo, and then I have to rebuild my 5-6 B2G trees because path is hardcoded in several places ...
[08:27] <g105b> reisio: I don't know how to 'reset'. I just reinstalled gnome-terminal in apt-get
[08:27] <reisio> g105b: it's a command
[08:27] <lissyx> histo, anyway, meeting, after I'll try the glue solution
[08:27] <g105b> histo: yes
[08:28] <histo> g105b: type reset in gnome terminal and 'press enter'
[08:28] <g105b> reisio: nope, didn't fix it
[08:28] <histo> g105b: dpkg -l bash-completion
[08:28] <g105b> If I press ctrl+alt+F1, the terminal there works.
[08:28] <g105b> (This means it's a gnome-terminal issue)
[08:29] <histo> g105b: did you change your shell from bash to something else?
[08:29] <g105b> histo: nope, I use a pretty standard OS install.
[08:30] <suomynon> i'm running ubuntu 13.04 on acer 5750 and i have problem with linuxdc++. I can't download files. What are the settings that I have to set in Preferences/Connections?
[08:31] <wasanzy> is it possible to upgrade  ubuntu 10.10 to the latest version?
[08:31] <histo> g105b: I would try gnome-terminal as a different user perhaps it's a configuration problem in your ~... Try gksu gnome-terminal and test in there
[08:31] <histo> !eol | wasanzy
[08:31] <histo> suomynon: you may have to look for linuxdc++ support
[08:32] <g105b> histo: running as gksu didn't work either
[08:33] <suomynon> ok histo  thank you
[08:33] <suomynon> i'll look support
[08:34] <histo> g105b: No idea what's going on then did gksu pull your prefernces e.g. color & background settings?
[08:34] <g105b> not sure, as I don't have any
[08:35] <histo> g105b: create a new user and login as them and try
[08:40] <alphix> clear
[08:41] <histo> alphix: try /clear
[08:44] <tetracon> #qt-gstreamer
[08:44] <reisio> heh
[08:44] <reisio> just in case you wanted to dep on both Qt AND GNOME :p
[08:45] <RayWizard|3> i have high xorg cpu load when playing flash, however it is not always the case, is there a way to restart xorg without killing graphic apllications curently running?
[08:45] <histo> RayWizard|3: no
[08:46] <reisio> RayWizard|3: probably can kill flash, though
[08:46] <reisio> which is more sensible anyways
[08:46] <histo> RayWizard|3: what video card?
[08:46] <RayWizard|3> integrated hd3000, it works well usualy
[08:46] <RayWizard|3> dont have problems under windows, and when system just booted up
[08:47] <histo> RayWizard|3: do you have propriatary drivers installed?
[08:48] <RayWizard|3> how to check?
[08:49] <histo> RayWizard|3: the drivers manager from System Settings
[08:49] <lord4163> Hello
[08:50] <lord4163> Why do I have a different keyboard layout in TTY? :(
[08:50] <g105b> sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome-terminal < That has got back directory tab-completion, but I'm still missing completion when using apt-get or more importantly, git (to complete branch names)
[08:50] <histo> !keyboard | lord4163
[08:50] <histo> jesus no cli
[08:50] <lord4163> histo: :P
[08:51] <histo> lord4163: cat /etc/default/keyboard
[08:51] <histo> lord4163: take a look there
[08:52] <adam68> Using Pan for Usenet on 12.04LTS, Pan Events says Error connecting to "reder.albasani.net:119" (Network is unreachable) or (Connection timed out). Any tricks to this? I must check with pings. Is so strange.
[08:52] <RayWizard|3> driver "Intel® Sandybridge Desktop " i supose its propriatary
[08:52] <lord4163> histo: Ok how do I change it to English US international with dead keys?
[08:53] <histo> RayWizard|3: lspci -k | grep -i vga
[08:53] <histo> lord4163: change it in GUI if it works there
[08:53] <histo> or a live cd
[08:54] <lord4163> histo: yeah my keyboard layout is alright in my de
[08:54] <RayWizard|3> histo: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[08:54] <histo> lord4163: then gksu gedit /etc/default/keyboard in your DE
[08:55] <histo> RayWizard|3: You are find then nvm. I though you had an ATI card
[08:55] <histo> RayWizard|3: flash sucks btw.  Try testing some html5 videos see if that pegs your xorg.
[08:55] <lord4163> histo: yeah but what values must I enter there?
[08:56] <histo> lord4163: let me pastebin mine hold up
[08:57] <histo> lord4163: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5914112/
[08:57] <lord4163> histo: like my tilde is not in right place and the @ is on " -_-
[08:58] <hewhomust> lord, thats probably keyboard layout
[08:58] <lord4163> histo: is that english us with dead keys?
[08:58] <hewhomust> i believe you have uk keyboard the same thing happened to me
[08:59] <lord4163> sudo service keyboard restart? :P
[08:59] <jony_easyrider> how can I benchmark two different distros to see which is performing faster?
[08:59] <tanto_> dasdsa
[09:00] <reisio> jony_easyrider: not in any way simply explained by another person
[09:00] <adam69> OK. Will ping albasani server, I guess is the least I can do .....
[09:00] <histo> jony_easyrider: read phoronix
[09:00] <hewhomust> jony, could you go to keyboard settings in system settings
[09:00] <llutz> adam69: the hostname is "reader.albasani.net" not reder
[09:01] <adam69> yes, thanks llutz, I got that right in the setup. I will ping may suggest something ?
[09:01] <histo> jony_easyrider: http://www.phoronix.com/
[09:03] <lord4163> Hmm how do I load that layout now histo ?
[09:04] <jony_easyrider> histo, ty for the link
[09:04] <histo> lord4163: boot the system would be easiest for you.
[09:04] <lord4163> histo: I did
[09:05] <tanto_> Help me, I want to install  NSClient++ on ubuntu 12.04
[09:05] <adam69> llutz, wow reader.albasani.net pings good. No probs there. Maybe I should try their alternatives https etc ?
[09:05] <histo> lord4163: then you should be good or you can use the loadkeys layout to load one
[09:05] <llutz> adam69: perhaps you should try a more reliable service than albasani ...
[09:05] <lord4163> histo: No it ain't working after reboot?
[09:06] <histo> lord4163: layout am
[09:06] <torke> hi
[09:06] <hewhomust> hi torke
[09:06] <histo> lord4163: I also have no idea what the hell keyboard you have so it's rather difficult for me to give you settings
[09:07] <lord4163> histo: English US international with dead keys
[09:07] <adam69> llutz: went there after trouble with aoie. I'll get back to the albasani guy who gave me the access password, he may have a comment. Pan should work, right?
[09:07] <torke> connecting to an ubuntu X session via tightvnc is fine and my keyboard input is detected properly except Alt key. e.g. i can not write @ there.
[09:08] <llutz> adam69: i never used albasani myself, but i don#t see any reason why pan should fail if albasani offers standard nntp-service
[09:08] <torke> connecting another virtual desktop via vnc works, but i still fail doing the same with the ubuntu os.
[09:08] <lord4163> histo: sudo loadkeys us did work but I don't have the dead keys now :P
[09:08] <torke> do you have a hint for fixing this Alt-key issue?
[09:09] <babybum> hello
[09:09] <hewhomust> hi baby
[09:09] <hewhomust> lol
[09:10] <adam69> llutz: OK, thanks. One OT question, if I may; what's a good IRC chat that I can learn up on, X-chat?. Seems I need beep notification of my moniker, and some focussing commands. Or perhaps I just read up on the / commands to enjoy this more? Thanks.
[09:11] <hewhomust> !xchat
[09:11] <babybum> hola
[09:11] <henkpoley> Is it even possible anymore to enter a package name in Launchpad and then report a bug for that package?
[09:11] <dr_willis> xchat has help site and docs
[09:11] <hewhomust> adam, xchat is nice and easy
[09:13] <lord4163> histo: Where can I see the available keymaps? or do you know what I need to get the dead keys working?
[09:13] <histo> !bug | henkpoley
[09:13] <ikonia> henkpoley: on the bug reporting wiki page, it does detail it
[09:13] <adam69> OK. X-chat with its blog info maybe is what I need. X-chat not intuitive for adding IRC servers. But its mainly 'beep alert on monicker appearance' I think I need. Also a few for / commands under my fingers. Thanks guys.
[09:13] <ikonia> henkpoley: it's not obvious, but if you read it fully, it's in there
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: just run:  ubuntu-bug packagename    and it will do that for you
[09:14] <henkpoley> does that work over ssh too ?
[09:14] <ikonia> adam69: it's very easy for adding servers and ver intuitive
[09:14] <ikonia> henkpoley: does what work over ssh ?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: bit easier than trying to find the link on the page (its not clear which link it is at all)
[09:14] <sasha|> o hai
[09:14] <reisio> ohio
[09:14] <sasha|> is there a way to get GoToMeeting working without wine/VMs on Ubuntu?
[09:14] <ikonia> sasha|: how does it work ?
[09:15] <dr_willis> find a native client?
[09:15] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: anyways, I found a "report a bug" link by clicking around on the breadcrumbs for the package I needed in Launchpad
[09:15] <histo> lord4163: can't check right now for you perhaps someone else can help.
[09:15] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: apparently you can't report for a package, but only for a team or something
[09:15] <reisio> sasha|: without wine/vms means a native client
[09:15] <histo> sasha|: ask the go to meeting people
[09:15] <reisio> sasha|: either there is such a thing or there isn't
[09:15] <ikonia> henkpoley: there is an option to select a package
[09:16] <histo> lord4163: perhaps sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup    will help you
[09:16] <sasha|> darn
[09:18] <sasha|> well someone's going to range on me… not understanding the fact that they physically cannot have the sort of performance they're already getting with ubuntu, on a 7 year old computer with 2gb of RAM and heavily outdated hardware
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: is the package from a PPA per chance?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> sasha|: tried Xubuntu?
[09:18] <hurdman> hello folks, i have got a question : will the futur ubuntu edge phone be open hardware ?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> sasha|: what video chip are you using?
[09:19] <reisio> hurdman: given that I've not heard anything about it being so, I doubt it
[09:19] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: linux-generic-lts-raring 3.8.0.26.25
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> hurdman: i'd ask in #ubuntu-touch
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-generic-lts-raring
[09:19] <reisio> hurdman: in fact they said they weren't going into the phone making business, just the os making business
[09:19] <dr_willis> hurdman: ive seen verynlittle harfdware thats totally open
[09:19] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: anyways I found the report link, it's just too hidden
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: oh, very
[09:19] <hurdman> dr_willis: the design of course, probably not the SoC :)
[09:19] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip As, in, not on any page where you want it to be
[09:20] <histo> sasha|: any reason they depend upon go to meeting as opposed to other products that are available?
[09:20] <hurdman> reisio: but they wants to build their phone
[09:20] <sasha|> ActionParsnip: no, ubuntu runs ok, but it would run better if there weren't 100 winnows open
[09:20] <ikonia> sasha|: then don't open 100 windows ?
[09:20] <ikonia> sasha|: you have to work within the limitations of your resources
[09:20] <reisio> hurdman: ;p
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> sasha|: then you will need more RAM to run more apps
[09:20] <sasha|> he wants to have Windows 7, which we have already tried… and it certainly won't handle no where near as much
[09:21] <ikonia> sasha|: sounds like it meets the windows 7 requirements fine
[09:21] <hurdman> if the soft is open and the hardware too, it should be the best news ever :D
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> sasha|: I'm not seeing a question here, just statements....
[09:21] <hewhomust> perhaps a lighter desktop environment would do nicely but yeah it should be able to run windows 7 alright
[09:21] <sasha|> that's because you guys are talking to much and not letting me write something :P
[09:21] <hewhomust> lol
[09:22] <adam69> OK folks, new on IRC here. er.... How do I exit gracefully? / leaving or something?
[09:22] <ikonia> adam69: type /part
[09:22] <MrQuist> adam /quit
[09:22] <adam69> OK
[09:22] <MrQuist> or ctrl+w
[09:22] <ikonia> MrQuist: is client specific
[09:23] <sasha|> histo: well he's in a meeting with 6 other people who are using GoToMeeting and he doesn't have much of an option. You should have heard him when he discovered that Skype doesn't do screen sharing...
[09:23] <zipy> alt + f4
[09:23] <dr_willis> depends on the irc client also
[09:23] <MrQuist> indeed
[09:23] <klevin> hello Guys
[09:23] <hewhomust> hi klevin
[09:23] <MrQuist> http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[09:23] <klevin> whats up?
[09:23] <adam69> Thanks MrQuist
[09:23] <MrQuist> NO KLEVIN DONT
[09:23] <hewhomust> the roof lol
[09:23] <MrQuist> That an anti-joke
[09:23] <klevin> what?
[09:24] <ikonia> errr can we stop the messing around please
[09:24] <hewhomust> yup
[09:24] <MrQuist> "the roof lol"
[09:24] <ikonia> the channel is for ubuntu help
[09:24] <histo> sasha|: http://alternativeto.net/software/gotomeeting/?platform=linux
[09:24] <klevin> yes i know for this i entered here
[09:24] <MrQuist> this for ubuntu help..?
[09:24] <klevin> i am trying to make a server in vmware
[09:24] <klevin> with inside a second virtual machine
[09:24] <klevin> so a vmware with 2 os
[09:25] <klevin> i have the basic skills in linux
[09:25] <MrQuist> What are you all saying weird nerdy stuff
[09:25] <ikonia> klevin: your trying to do virtualization within virtualization ?
[09:25] <klevin> yes
[09:25] <MrQuist> good luck
[09:25] <reisio> klevin: that doesn't usually workout so well
[09:25] <histo> klevin: why on earth?
[09:25] <ikonia> reisio: vmware supports 4 nested deep
[09:25] <dr_willis> dosbox in vbox
[09:25] <dr_willis> :-)
[09:25] <MrQuist> lol yeah messing around and stuff would work
[09:25] <ikonia> klevin: I suggest you talk to vmware about this as it has very specific support needs to do this
[09:26] <henkpoley> klevin: you are probably looking for the hypervisor stuff, not 'vmware server'
[09:26] <reisio> ikonia: I'm sure it works out well, too
[09:26] <ikonia> MrQuist: can you please stop with the pointless comments
[09:26] <ikonia> reisio: it actually does if you tick the boxes vmware require
[09:26] <klevin> do you provide me a link please?
[09:26] <ikonia> klevin: you'll need to talk to vmware about this
[09:26] <MrQuist> ikonia, ubuntu is a great philosophy, but i don't know why you're all talking about computer
[09:26] <arash> where does bluetooth received files , save in ?
[09:26] <ikonia> klevin: try the #vmware channel
[09:26] <klevin> yes but all teste i will make will be on vmware
[09:26] <reisio> ikonia: sure it does
[09:27] <henkpoley> klevin: or #Xen
[09:27] <ikonia> MrQuist: no-one is talking about "computer" - this channel is for ubuntu support
[09:27] <klevin> i think i am at the right one, need t tutorials how to make the virtualization
[09:27] <MrQuist> yes
[09:27] <MrQuist> i want to love my neighbours
[09:27] <klevin> in ubuntu for the stuff needed i will find myself :)
[09:27] <ikonia> klevin: no - you need to use VMWARE to do this
[09:27] <klevin> ok, suppose i installed
[09:27] <arash> !bluetooth
[09:27] <klevin> first ubuntu
[09:27] <ikonia> klevin: hence why you need to talk to vmware to get the support requirements for nested virtualization
[09:27] <klevin> how to make another one inside the first server
[09:27] <earman> hello
[09:27] <reisio> hi
[09:28] <histo> klevin: why do you want to do this?
[09:28] <dr_willis> i wonder if vmware has docs at its homepage
[09:28] <klevin> for test
[09:28] <histo> dr_willis: sure it does
[09:28] <histo> I bet there is also #vmware
[09:28] <klevin> i want to lean more about the linux
[09:28] <klevin> i have basic skills
[09:28] <histo> klevin: then create a linux vm
[09:29] <klevin> guys vmware is just for the area of the server
[09:29] <histo> klevin: what doest hat have to do with nested vm
[09:29] <klevin> inside vmware
[09:29] <klevin> a single virtual machine
[09:29] <klevin> will be 2 server
[09:29] <reisio> there's literally nothing you're doing that makes sense :)
[09:29] <histo> klevin: whats you native language?
[09:29] <klevin> one directly with vmware and the other one with virtual instide the first one
[09:29] <dr_willis> should be trivial to install vmware or vbox and install ubuntu in the vm
[09:29] <klevin> albanian
[09:30] <dr_willis> why you need a vm in the vm is not clear
[09:30] <klevin> if needed i can make also in a local machine
[09:30] <klevin> guys, suppose you have a server
[09:30] <dr_willis> run 2 vms..
[09:30] <klevin> and instead buying another one, you just create a virtual one at the single server
[09:30] <klevin> so you have 2 servers in one machine?
[09:30] <klevin> get it?
[09:31] <histo> !al | klevin
[09:31] <klevin> sorry?
[09:31] <dr_willis> klevin:  thats rather trivial to do
[09:31] <dr_willis> you could run a dozen vm instances on a ubuntu server
[09:32] <dr_willis> each bring a server
[09:32] <klevin> ok how to do this? this is my question?
[09:32] <klevin> i know how to install the first one, the physic one, what about the virtual one
[09:32] <klevin> what are the steps?
[09:32] <dr_willis> id use vbox. and start by reading thr vbox manual at its homepage
[09:33] <arash> where is bluetooth received files ?
[09:33] <dr_willis> install ubuntu.. install vbox.. install os in vbox
[09:34] <Anaxandridas>  I keep getting a popup called "Depconf on Laptop" which soon disappears. It's just a blank box, with that at the top. It pops up, then closes. What is it, and how do I make it stop?
[09:34] <alex_> трв
[09:35] <histo> Anaxandridas: a notification for depconf probably
[09:35] <Anaxandridas> histo, while I do appreciate the wit and humour, do you have an actual answer?
[09:36] <klevin> any idea ?
[09:37] <dr_willis> klevin:  on what exactly?
[09:37] <klevin> on virtualization, on a single physic server to put 2 servers
[09:38] <dr_willis> klevin:  run 2  vm instances.
[09:38] <dr_willis> or give details as to exactly what you are needing
[09:40] <klevin> should try ubuntu cluster?
[09:41] <reisio> klevin: to accomplish what?
[09:41] <klevin> i need to make a test for the virtualizaiont servers
[09:41] <klevin> that is all
[09:41] <klevin> just for testing and for learning more about servers
[09:41] <ikonia> klevin: it doesn't appear to me that you are confident in what you are doing
[09:41] <ikonia> klevin: what is your end goal ?
[09:42] <klevin> for this purpose i entered here :D
[09:42] <klevin> to learn and for help
[09:42] <ikonia> klevin: please re-state cleanly
[09:42] <dr_willis> make a test to test what
[09:42] <ikonia> clearly
[09:42] <histo> Anaxandridas: that was my answer no wit or humor just pointing you in a direction. I would investigate whatever the depconf process is
[09:43] <dr_willis> install ubuntu. install virtualbox, have a blast klevin
[09:43] <reisio> but only in that order
[09:43] <dr_willis> !vbox
[09:45]  * histo senses future hosting provider
[09:45]  * reisio senses future botspam
[09:48] <br_shadow> Guys, I have a problem and for weeks no one helps me, if no one can help me now too, im switching back to windows that actually works
[09:48] <br_shadow> if you can please take a look at http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=137187&p=731662#p731662
[09:48] <iceroot> !mint | br_shadow
[09:48] <ikonia> br_shadow: we don't support mint here
[09:49] <br_shadow> guys, mint is the same like ubuntu, im sure if you helped me for like 3 minutes I would be done
[09:49] <jrib> also, there's no point in "threatening" to switch OS.  That's your choice.  Just ask about your issue (in the right channel)
[09:49] <iceroot> br_shadow: as we said, not supported
[09:49] <ikonia> br_shadow: no, it's not
[09:49] <ikonia> br_shadow: you are also getting support in the Mint IRC channel - so please don't lie saying no-one has helped you
[09:49] <jrib> br_shadow: you could install ubuntu and see if your issue persists.  If it does, we could help you with your ubuntu install
[09:49] <ikonia> br_shadow: please take it to the mint channel
[09:50] <ikonia> br_shadow: or switch back to windows, which ever works best for you
[09:50] <br_shadow> ikonia the truth is im NOT getting support to mint channel
[09:50] <dan2003> What's the best / recommended way to make a package that does not need anything compiling, i.e. some config files, scripts or audio files. I had a look at sound-theme-freedesktop using apt-get source, but it uses autotools just to install a few sound files, which seems overkill
[09:50] <iceroot> br_shadow: we dont support mint and we dont care about mint and the mint support
[09:50] <br_shadow> moreover ubuntu is the same exactly like mint
[09:50] <jrib> !packaging | dan2003
[09:50] <iceroot> br_shadow: so lets stop this discusses here, its offtopic
[09:50] <jrib> dan2003: try #ubuntu-packaging
[09:50] <cfhowlett> br_shadow, and we're not going to support mint here on THIS channel so ... feel free to use ubuntu.  Thank you.
[09:50] <iceroot> br_shadow: and its not the same
[09:51] <ikonia> dan2003: the packaging format is the same if it needs compiling or not,
[09:51] <dan2003> jrib, thanks
[09:51] <br_shadow> iceroot im not asking you to help me as an ubuntu supporter, im asking you to help me as a linux supporter
[09:51] <iceroot> br_shadow: are you a troll?
[09:51] <iceroot> br_shadow: i told you 3 times we dont support mint here
[09:51] <cfhowlett> br_shadow, not supported here.  period point blank.
[09:51] <ikonia> br_shadow: final statement - no mint support here, please don't ask again
[09:51] <iceroot> br_shadow: so now stop that useless stuff here
[09:51] <br_shadow> im not a troll i just need help that no one seems to care and give me for weeks !
[09:51] <jrib> br_shadow: your choices are: 1) ask mint support channel 2) install ubuntu and replicate your issue, then ask here for help or 3) go to windows
[09:51] <iceroot> br_shadow: go to the mint channel!!
[09:51] <cfhowlett> br_shadow, install ubuntu.  we'll help with that.
[09:52] <cfhowlett> br_shadow, sadly, the rules of this channel apply to us all .. .including you.  and me.
[09:53] <llutz> 7quit
[09:54] <Michiel1> hey does anyone know how to recover damaged partition ?
[09:54] <ikonia> Michiel1: depends how/why it's damaged
[09:54] <Michiel1> When I tried to install ArchLinux I accidently selected my ubuntu home folder
[09:55] <ikonia> Michiel1: ok, so it's not damaged, you've just formatted it
[09:55] <Michiel1> when I tried to recover that via testdisk i think it destroyed my partition table
[09:55] <ikonia> ughh really
[09:55] <cfhowlett> michaelni, ow ow ow ow ow
[09:55] <iceroot> Michiel1: only your backup is able to fix that (maybe a backup of the superblocks is enough)
[09:55] <Michiel1> when i then tried to repair that it succeeded it found my ubuntu, windows and stuff but i can't boot in windows anymore because it says it can't fiend windows
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Michiel1, probably wrote out your MBR.  fixable.
[09:56] <Michiel1> at least now i have my ubuntu back (not the home folder)
[09:57] <Michiel1> but windows is f*cked (pardon my language) and i still haven't recovered the home folder
[09:57] <Anaxandridas> So... Remove Windows?
[09:57] <ikonia> Michiel1: if you need to pardon your language, don't use it please.
[09:57] <cfhowlett> michaelni, repair the windows boot with windows repair.  then reinstall grub to get your ubuntu goodies
[09:57] <Michiel1> yeah would be ideal if i hadn't had the upcoming exams and if my files weren't on windows
[09:58] <cfhowlett> Michiel1, that's why god invented dropbox
[09:58] <ikonia> Michiel1: cfhowlett's called out your best bet
[09:58] <Anaxandridas> Dropbox IS God.
[09:59] <Anaxandridas> If every single computer in my house, AND my phone were all to die tomorrow, I'd still be good :D
[09:59] <mJayk> Anaxandridas: clouds are good just dont rely on them to much
[09:59] <mJayk> :)
[09:59] <Michiel1> the problem is it doesn't recognize my different partitions from live cd
[09:59] <ikonia> Michiel1: are you on the livecd now ?
[10:00] <Michiel1> or from the ubuntu ( becaus i can boot just i don't get my home folder)
[10:00] <Michiel1> so I can't copy all the files
[10:00] <ikonia> Michiel1: are you on the system now ?
[10:00] <Michiel1> I'm currently on my other pc
[10:00] <ikonia> Michiel1: can you access the other system ?
[10:00] <Michiel1> i can acces ubuntu root and that's basicly it
[10:00] <BoF> do you know where i can download shell script  !??
[10:01] <ikonia> Michiel1: ok, so please access the other system, do "sudo fdisk -l" and put the output in a pastebin, and provide us the URL
[10:01] <ikonia> BoF: which shell script do you want ?
[10:01] <Michiel1> the output gives
[10:01] <ikonia> Michiel1: please use a pastebin
[10:01] <Michiel1> sda1p1, sda1p2
[10:01] <Michiel1> ...
[10:01] <Michiel1> only 3
[10:01] <ikonia> Michiel1: and put the exact output in as I requested
[10:01] <Michiel1> so sda1p1sda1p2sda1p3
[10:01] <ikonia> ok, I'm done
[10:02] <BoF> any scripts, i m looking for a forum where i can see shell code for give me some ideas!
[10:02] <ikonia> if you can't follow instructions, no point helping
[10:02] <jrib> BoF: ideas for what?
[10:02] <Michiel1> ok wait a minute i have to boot
[10:02] <ikonia> BoF: google shell scripting examples
[10:02]  * cfhowlett ... LOL.  Where's the "Ain't no one got time to read all that!" lady?
[10:02] <ikonia> Michiel1: dont do it for me - I'm not bothered now
[10:03] <BoF> ikonia: i try but no very util for me!
[10:03] <ikonia> http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ch08.html
[10:03] <ikonia> first hit on google
[10:04] <jrib> !terminal | BoF
[10:04] <Michiel1> ok sudo fdisk -l reports /dev/sda1      (start) 1      (end) A953525167    (blocks)      976762536      (ID) ee        (system) GPT
[10:05] <ikonia> Michiel1: you seem clearly unable to follow instruction despite me asking then telling you to use a pastebin
[10:05] <Michiel1> yeah but like i said this is a different pc
[10:05] <ikonia> Michiel1: yeah, and like I said, "use a pastebin"
[10:05] <ikonia> good luck
[10:06] <Michiel1> the other one is broken i just can use the console so maybe if i can acces the chat via console
[10:06] <Michiel1> :s
[10:07] <Michiel1> or ok I will try to do it via livecd then i could probably paste it
[10:07] <ikonia> Michiel1: I'm not doing any more on this now
[10:08] <Michiel1> ok thanks for the help :)
[10:08] <ikonia> no problem, good luck
[10:08] <Michiel1> i'll guess i'l paste it anyways and hope someone else can help :p
[10:09] <ikonia> best idea
[10:12] <Homely_Girl> Hi all, I seem to have a password problem on my system, can anyone help? I'm running 12.04
[10:12] <cfhowlett> !password|Homely_Girl,
[10:18] <GianArb> hi! sorry http://news.softpedia.com/news/Introducing-Deezer-WebApp-for-Ubuntu-12-10-301305.shtml I have installed this utility, how can i star it?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> GianArb, ask at www.deezer.com
[10:20] <GianArb> thanks!
[10:21] <QTPieMan> !thanks
[10:21] <Sdad> Hi i'm the michiel huy with the partition problem so what happend: I tried to install arch linux accidently deleted ubuntu home folder, tried to epair via testdisk, destroyed partition table, managed to repair that enough that i can actually get grub back, but in the mean time it destroyed windows, so now i can't get into windows anymore, i need the files so i can't just delete windows, i can get back into ubuntu root folder and as requested by ikonia this is 
[10:21] <Sdad> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[10:21] <Sdad> Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[10:21] <Sdad> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
[10:21] <Sdad> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[10:21] <Sdad> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
[10:21] <FloodBot1> Sdad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <Ben64> Sdad: seriously, learn how to pastebin
[10:22] <Anaxandridas> Lol.
[10:22] <Sdad> oh sry new to this :s
[10:22] <Ben64> you were told a bunch of times to pastbin
[10:23] <Sdad> yeah i thought they meant paste the terminal output :s
[10:23] <cfhowlett> Sdad, windows>windows repair>ubuntu>reinstall grub
[10:24] <QTPieMan> Sdad, or paste.ubuntu.com or dpaste.com even
[10:28] <konadr> hi all, i'm having an odd issue with PXE booting, it finds all my files and starts to boot, but then prompts for the CDROM to be mounted, I am specifying url in the boot menu so im a little confused by this http://pastebin.com/5aNrz9PA
[10:31] <Cheznet> hh
[10:32] <cfhowlett> Cheznet, ii
[10:32] <Cheznet> learning a bit at a time ty
[10:32] <reisio> lloo
[10:33] <Cheznet> hows my registered nick
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Cheznet, ??? acceptable?
[10:33] <reisio> profit
[10:33] <Boohbah> ubuntuforums.org hacked?
[10:33] <Cheznet> hmm
[10:33] <cfhowlett> reisio, have you an ubuntu question?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> Boohbah, yes.  days ago.
[10:34] <blazemore> Boohbah: Yes, go to ubuntuforums.com for more information
[10:34] <usr13> konadr: What directory is /precise/ in?  Is it in the root directory / ?
[10:34] <reisio> cfhowlett: I have not
[10:34] <cfhowlett> !ot|reisio,
[10:34] <usr13> konadr: Oh, this is the cdrom?
[10:34] <reisio> cfhowlett: that was my understanding as well
[10:35] <alfreddba> sudo monit status...monit: error connecting to the monit daemon
[10:35] <teasto12> testing testing meow meow
[10:36] <konadr> usr13: it's in the top level of the webservers default vhost
[10:36] <cfhowlett> teasto12, yes we see you ...
[10:36] <Cheznet> for packages when you switch from gnome to to kde desktop settings how do you detect what is gnome set and kde if you forget
[10:37] <Homely_Girl> Back again - I dropped to root 'n followed instructions to reset my password and got this error - "authentication token manipulation error password unchanched" plse can you help?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Homely_Girl, are you using an encrypted ubuntu?
[10:39] <blazemore> Homely_Girl: Make sure you are mounting the filesystem read/write - after immediately selecting "Drop into root shell prompt" the filesystem can be mounted as read-only. Try running "mount -rw -o remount /"
[10:40] <Homely_Girl> blazemore: Thanks I'll try that, back soon
[10:41] <Cheznet> whats the command to see my info
[10:41] <cfhowlett> Cheznet, info?  what info do you want to see?
[10:41] <Cheznet> here for ip listed
[10:41] <blazemore> Cheznet: /whois Cheznet
[10:42] <Cheznet> client
[10:45] <alfreddba> monit: error connecting to the monit daemon..pls guide me.
[10:46] <blazemore> !details | alfreddba
[10:47] <alfreddba> am using ubuntu 12.0.4.. i installed monit..when i see status-- sudo monit status am getting this error :- monit: error connecting to the monit daemon
[10:48] <alfreddba> blazemore:  am using ubuntu 12.0.4.. i installed monit..when i see status-- sudo monit status am getting this error :- monit: error connecting to the monit daemon
[10:49] <babinlonston> alfreddba:welcome buddy
[10:49] <blazemore> alfreddba: Please edit the file "/etc/default/monit" and change/add the line "startup=1"
[10:50] <blazemore> alfreddba: http://yoodey.com/solve-monit-error-connecting-monit-daemon
[10:50] <babinlonston> alfreddba: how are u doing
[10:52] <zeev_> Hi, 1) is it possible to mount an external device (disk-on-key or an usb-hard-drive, etc.) only in Write mode, but NOT in Read mode? 2) If I do chmod a-x /mnt/media - will it be possible to write there but not read from there?
[10:53] <alfreddba> blazemore: thank u..
[10:56] <jackstoner> zeev_: 1) it's not possible, how do you access (read) the fs. 2) the flag +x used on a folder makes it readable to whoever is assigned. Write flag is +w
[10:56] <teeceepee> how do I set an env variable in upstart
[10:56] <teeceepee> running as root ?
[10:56] <blazemore> zeev_: Perhaps there is a better solution for what you're trying to achieve?
[10:57] <blazemore> teeceepee:  The recommended method is to write an env file in the pre-start stanza and then source it in the script stanza
[10:57] <blazemore> teeceepee: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12610335/how-to-set-environment-variable-in-pre-start-in-upstart-script
[10:57] <blazemore> It's a bit of a hack, but it does work
[10:58] <teeceepee> blazemore will that be in my upstart script ?
[10:59] <blazemore> teeceepee: In your pre-start script, you write your encironmental variables to a file in /tmp
[11:00] <blazemore> teeceepee: It's explained in detail in the link I gave you
[11:00] <teeceepee> I don't know what a pre-start script is
[11:00] <teeceepee> yeah I read it didn't understand
[11:00] <blazemore> teeceepee: What are you trying to do? Do you know what an upstart script is?
[11:00] <teeceepee> yeah I do
[11:00] <teeceepee> I am trying to run uwsgi using an upstart script
[11:01] <zeev_> blazemore: I just want to prevent users from reading external stuff, while provide them with an option to dump their work on devices they attach - is there a way to do this?
[11:02] <teeceepee> blazemore this is my upstart file
[11:02] <teeceepee> http://pastebin.com/GdVK3T3N
[11:04] <blazemore> teeceepee: Right, and what do you need it to do that it isn't doing?
[11:04] <teeceepee> its not setting env CAMPAIGN_TYPE=general
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> teeceepee: could set it in /etc/environment
[11:06] <teeceepee> ActionParsnip really? I am running upstart with sudo
[11:06] <teeceepee> thanks let me try thus
[11:06] <teeceepee> this
[11:07] <inad922> hello
[11:07] <inad922> could someone tell me which package has the ec2-authorize command?
[11:08] <inad922> or how can I find it out on ubuntu where a given file is
[11:08] <inad922> I guess this has a /usr/(s)bin prefix
[11:09] <DJones> !find ec2-authorize
[11:09] <DJones> inad922: See ubottu's info
[11:09] <inad922> thx
[11:10] <zeev_> blazemore: I just want to prevent users from reading external stuff, while provide them with an option to dump their work on devices they attach - is there a way to do this?
[11:10] <inad922> ah which repo has this package?
[11:10] <inad922> I added the repo as suggested on this page
[11:10] <inad922> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
[11:11] <raub> When a laptop goes to sleep (you close lid), what should I expect to see in log file 9syslog)?
[11:11] <BoF> hi, a sh script for notify mail come in it's possible??
[11:11] <inad922> but still I don't see the package
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> BoF: what email client are you using?
[11:11] <BoF> thunderbird
[11:11] <DJones> inad922: It should be in multiverse according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ec2-api&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> BoF: doesn't it have an addon?
[11:12] <BoF> yes but i can't install it
[11:12] <raub> BoF: yes. Implementation may vary: is mail local or in a server (imap)?
[11:12] <inad922> DJones, Eh, I enabled multiverse in sources.list
[11:12] <inad922> shall I replace the universe stuff?
[11:12] <BoF> smtp
[11:12] <inad922> or those are parallel?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> BoF: libnotify-popups  http://askubuntu.com/questions/33614/why-do-firefox-and-thunderbird-not-use-notify-osd
[11:12] <DJones> inad922: Are you on 13.04 (thats what the search gives)
[11:12] <raub> BoF: smtp is to *send* mail, not receive
[11:13] <BoF> ah yes sorry
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> BoF: what i sthe output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:13] <DJones> inad922: Looking in a bit more detail, it should be there for lucid, precise and quantal as well
[11:13] <BoF> its:   Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:13] <inad922> DJones, I'm on an Amazon virt server. uname -a gives no info on the ubuntu version
[11:14] <ikonia> inad922: that is incorect
[11:14] <raub> Also, BoF when you say you cannot install is it because of user rights or an issue in the box?
[11:14] <inad922> ikonia, Well how should I find it out then?>
[11:14] <DJones> inad922: I've not looked at the amazon virt servers, so I wouldn't like to make any other suggestions, I'm just going off the default Ubuntu repo information
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> BoF: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#thunderbird
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> BoF: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197844/how-to-disable-osd-notifications-for-specific-email-addresses
[11:15] <ikonia> inad922: find out what exactly ?
[11:15] <BoF> ActionParsnip: thx
[11:15] <jarco> When I try to save manual network connections it requires me to authenticate before I can do it. How can I do that?
[11:15] <BoF> raub: i can't instal package!
[11:15] <ikonia> jarco: what do you mean ?
[11:16] <inad922> ikonia, Which version of ubuntu is running on the machine
[11:16] <inad922> that's why I tried to use uname -a
[11:16] <xormor> inad922: /exec -o uname -a
[11:16] <ikonia> inad922: ok, so lsb_release -a, the contents of /etc/release, erifying from the kernel in uname -a, then contacting amazon to ask which version you have purchased
[11:16] <xormor> Linux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> BoF: guess how I found those.....
[11:16] <raub> ActionParsnip: for some reason I thought he had no rights to install stuff in his account, hence I was going to suggest a python solution
[11:16] <jarco> ikonia, When I try to assign a fixed ip I cannot save because it requires me to be authenticated to make the connection available or all users.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> raub: most users do :)
[11:17] <ikonia> jarco: where does it ask you to authenticate
[11:17] <BoF> ActionParsnip: with ur great google friend?! :)
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> BoF: well, that and duckduckgo
[11:17] <jarco> ikonia, when I hover the greyed out save button
[11:17] <inad922> ikonia, /etc/release doesn't exist. I tried uname -a and it's an ec2 virtual server
[11:17] <ikonia> inad922: I know it's an ec2 virtual server, but the running kernel can normally tell you
[11:18] <ikonia> jarco: how are you launching it
[11:18] <jarco> ikonia, i use the small icon on the top right side of the screen and press edit connections
[11:18] <justaguy> Well this is a big channel
[11:18] <inad922> ikonia, ow ok
[11:18] <inad922> ikonia, missed the lsb_release part
[11:18] <inad922> 12.04
[11:19] <ikonia> jarco: there should be an "unlock" option
[11:19] <raub> When you put osmething up in a ppa, is it compiled/built for oyu or you must upload the packages yourself?
[11:19] <teeceepee> ActionParsnip doesn't work
[11:19] <jarco> ikonia, if there is one I really can't find it
[11:20] <ikonia> raub: you can put what you want up
[11:20] <raub> ikonia: so you mean it will build the package for me (using jenkins/whatnot)?
[11:21] <ikonia> raub: depends, but basically, yes
[11:21] <raub> Excellent!
[11:21] <ikonia> raub: assuming all your configs are sane/correct
[11:23] <raub> ikonia: point taken ;)
[11:23] <justaguy> Damn this irc is HUGE
[11:23] <ikonia> jarco: yeah, you said already
[11:24] <ikonia> jarco: just tested it on a 13.04 box - save button is not greyed out for my user
[11:25] <raub> If I do tune2fs -o discard /dev/vgtest/test, how can I verify if that took place? /proc/mounts does not seem to want to help
[11:25] <ikonia> raub: why would you think it didn't take place,
[11:25] <ikonia> raub: also be aware of limits of "discard" on logical volumes
[11:26] <raub> ikonia: because I did not see a message saying it was changed
[11:27] <ikonia> raub: are you expecting a message ?
[11:27] <raub> ikonia: care to elaborate? Is it bad to enable trim in a lvm?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> raub  not everything is confirmed by a message, like: cp isn't either
[11:27] <raub> ikonia: I kinda would like to know for sure ;)
[11:27] <ikonia> raub: no, there are just limits and it's also supposed to be part of the logical volume, not file system
[11:27] <SanDozCC> 3yal
[11:27] <SanDozCC> men 3rby
[11:28] <raub> ikonia: Aha. I take that enabling issue_discards option in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf will not take place until reboot, right?
[11:28] <ikonia> raub: that's correct
[11:28] <raub> I am trying to make sure not only my SSD-based raid is aligned but I am also get as good performance I can
[11:29] <raub> right now the OS is a livecd, so I have a few limitations :)
[11:29] <ikonia> raub: it's worth having a few reads of things like this http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?82648-software-RAID-LVM-TRIM-support-on-Linux
[11:29] <ikonia> raub: it doesn't sound like you're really aware of the limitations/practices
[11:32] <raub> ikonia: thanks for the info. I have been reading https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives#Tips_for_Maximizing_SSD_Performance for the trim stuff and http://www.altechnative.net/2010/12/31/disk-and-file-system-optimisation/ for the alignment stuff
[11:32] <ikonia> raub: a good resource, yes
[11:32] <raub> Will not claim I digested eveything yet though
[11:33] <raub> ikonia: honestly I still do not feel I completely understand it
[11:33] <ikonia> raub: no, it's a complex topic and the info is really very version speicifc to the components you use.
[11:33] <raub> the principle, yes
[11:33] <raub> the details, not quite
[11:33] <raub> As in?
[11:34] <ikonia> well, if file systmes/volumes/whatever support the functionality/options you want,
[11:34] <ikonia> the specific versions of the software will have more/less/different options
[11:36] <raub> ikonia: What I have is an Areca controller and 5 SSDs in a raid 5. I want to use them exclusively for lvm, to give out lvs for VMs
[11:37] <raub> 12.04LTS but I am testing right now in 13.04
[11:40] <shadej> hello everyone
[11:41] <alphix> ditto
[11:41] <shadej> how to send sms from pc
[11:42] <shadej> alphix:
[11:42] <ikonia> shadej: you need a mobile sim card device, or an sms gateway on the network
[11:42] <shadej> was that for me
[11:43] <shadej> ikonia: how about using my mobile
[11:43] <ikonia> shadej: depends if there is software to send over the link, there used to be for old nokias, but not so much these days
[11:44] <raub> So far the best bonnie++ numbers I got were by creating aligned partitions directly in the raid (you know, fdisk -H 64 -S 32 -c /dev/sdb)
[11:45] <fusa_> #sine
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> shadej: http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/how-to-install-frontlinesms-smsgateway-server-in-ubuntu-linux/
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> shadej: http://xaintech.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/build-your-own-sms-gateway-with-ubuntu.html
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> shadej  wammu is a gui to send messages, using your mobile phone
[11:48] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: nice url's
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> !info wammu
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: ty
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: funny what websearching brings up.... :)
[11:52] <mym> :P
[11:56] <ihre> What is a good way to test performance between an Ubuntu server and a Windows 7 client, set up cygwin & iperf?
[11:56] <phong_> hi vagina, how are you doing?
[12:05] <xpl0iter> Hello, I am trying to install curl by this command,  apt-get install ld-linux.so.2 curl but says me  Couldn't find any package by regex 'ld-linux.so.2
[12:05] <blazemore> ihre: it depends what metric you want to compare
[12:05] <blazemore> xpl0iter: just sudo apt-get install curl
[12:05] <jrib> xpl0iter: why are you putting "ld-linux.so.2"?
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> xpl0iter  try sudo apt-get install curl
[12:06] <raub> xpl0iter: let the package program deal with the dependencies
[12:06] <xpl0iter> jrib, MonkeyDust: this error comes in that case: http://pastie.org/8177686
[12:06] <xpl0iter> raub ^^
[12:07] <jrib> xpl0iter: I have to leave, but this is usually because you've used unofficial repositories, or packages (usually not meant for your distro version)
[12:07] <xpl0iter> blazemore: It gives me this error: http://pastie.org/8177686
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> xpl0iter  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue ?
[12:08] <xpl0iter> jrib: this is my sources.list http://pastie.org/8177690
[12:08] <xpl0iter> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[12:10] <jrib> xpl0iter: if you want to find the cause, then you look at the output, pick something it couldn't install (like libcurl3) and then try to install that (sudo apt-get install libcurl3).  You'll get a new error, with new things it can't install.  Keep going, eventually you'll get to the root cause.  Then you can « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » and you'll probably see that package is not coming from official
[12:10] <jrib> repositories
[12:11] <jrib> xpl0iter: if you've done anything "interesting" with apt, packages, or repos, then you should relay that to the channel as well
[12:11] <xpl0iter> jrib tw while trying to an apt-update this errors comes at the end: http://pastie.org/8177698
[12:12] <jrib> xpl0iter: so fix them.  Sorry, but I have to leave
[12:12] <xpl0iter> jrib I haven't done anything, this is a vps I bought! :(
[12:12] <xpl0iter> ok thanks for trying to help anyway!
[12:12] <jrib> xpl0iter: well you have PPAs enabled, which isn't standard.  You should complain to your vps provider
[12:13] <xpl0iter> blazemore, raub, MonkeyDust: Anything?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> xpl0iter  disable the PPA's, for a start
[12:13] <ihre> blazemore: I would like to test the performance of my OpenVPN server, but I'm using iperf standalone, which seems to work ok.
[12:16] <xpl0iter> MonkeyDust Where do I gte the list of PPAs installed on this VPS?
[12:17] <xpl0iter> Or is there any other method to disable it altogether?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge | xpl0iter read this
[12:18] <plague> Hi! I'm Using ubuntu, but I have hardware related question should i ask it on some other channel?
[12:18] <raub> plague: don't ask to ask. Just ask. Worst case scenario someone will scream in fear
[12:19] <cedric_> that scream might scare someone into a heart attack though
[12:19] <xpl0iter> MonkeyDust Ok, I got it, but to purge the PPA's I need to know the names of the installed PPA's right?
[12:19] <plague> I'm basicly running headless ubuntu server. And was planing to get smart-ups, wanted to ask if anyone could share some information whihc model would be preferable and if there is a way to set up automated system bootup on power restore?
[12:21] <raub> ikonia: Interesting bit in the ocz link you provided was they were using a partition for the lvm instead of the whole disk
[12:21] <plague> looking at APC models just not sure what i should get
[12:21] <ikonia> raub: it's advised to use 1 partition for LVM - 1 partition that covers the whole disk
[12:22] <raub> plague: apcupsd (and others) can tell your computer that it is time to consider shutting down. Some computers can be configured in bios to reboot automatically when they get power
[12:22] <plague> raub, you mean any APC smart ups model should do the work?
[12:23] <raub> ikonia: that is what I have been doing. Did not know about the --metadatasize option. How, aren't some of those disabled if lvm.conf is setup to trust the raid?
[12:24] <raub> plague: check its site for which models it likes
[12:24] <ikonia> raub: I'm not sure without checking
[12:25] <xpl0iter> ok I have fixed that now!
[12:25] <xpl0iter> But stll can't install curl
[12:25] <xpl0iter> :)
[12:25] <ikonia> xpl0iter: what do you mean can't install curl ?
[12:25] <raub> xpl0iter: pastebin new output?
[12:26] <xpl0iter> ikonia raub http://pastie.org/8177734
[12:26] <raub> ikonia: that's what I have been doing. My problem is I have been using a liveCD so...
[12:26] <ikonia> xpl0iter: what repos have you got setup ?
[12:27] <ikonia> xpl0iter: that looks like a load of nonsense packages that are not part of ubuntu
[12:27] <KC4LZN> mumpitze1: From yesterday, wanted to share what I did to correct my problem if you have a minute?
[12:28] <xpl0iter> ikonia http://pastie.org/8177738
[12:28] <ikonia> xpl0iter: there must be other repos
[12:28] <ikonia> xpl0iter: or there must have been other repos
[12:28] <ikonia> xpl0iter: those packages listed are not ubuntu ones
[12:28] <raub> xpl0iter: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list (I htink)
[12:28] <xpl0iter> ikonia I got it from the sources.list
[12:28] <ikonia> doesn't really matter whats there now
[12:29] <ikonia> it's what has been there
[12:29] <xpl0iter> raub Thats the one I posted
[12:29] <xpl0iter> :(
[12:29] <ikonia> xpl0iter: can you show me the output of uname -a please.
[12:29] <raub> xpl0iter: it just seems rather empty
[12:29] <ikonia> it's not even an official sources.list
[12:29] <ikonia> someones been messing/changing it
[12:29] <teeceepee> do I need to initctl reload-configuration every time I make changes to upstart script ?
[12:30] <mn2010> is there a forum discussion channel?
[12:30] <ikonia> mn2010: #ubuntuforums
[12:30] <blazemore> mn2010: #ubuntuforums
[12:30] <xpl0iter> ikonia http://pastebin.com/8RNdJTiM
[12:31] <ikonia> xpl0iter: this is not an ubuntu install
[12:31] <mn2010> thanks!
[12:31] <jarco> Hello, i am trying to setup a samba share on ubuntu 13.04 but for some reason my samba user keeps getting refused . I enter the password and username but it just promps for the apssword over and over (its the correct one)
[12:31] <ikonia> xpl0iter: that is a redhat kernel - someone has setup a bastardised ubuntu build in a redhat virtual machine
[12:31] <ikonia> xpl0iter: I suggest you speak to your VPS provider as this is a mess
[12:32] <ikonia> xpl0iter: do not add/remove any more packages until you've spoken to your vps provider for help as it could do real damage
[12:32] <xpl0iter> ikonia oh ok, thanks! :)
[12:32] <xpl0iter> But what should I ask them? this curl install error?
[12:33] <ikonia> xpl0iter: just explain the problem
[12:33] <xpl0iter> ok thanks a bunch! :)
[12:34] <mn2010> glad to see there is alot of helper's around today, beats the hoary' days when it was me and 2 other people trying to play help the masses.
[12:34] <raub> mn2010: I feel I am more here to spread misinformation ;)
[12:35] <teeceepee> so apparently, looks like I have been making changes to the wrong upstart script
[12:37] <teeceepee> dang, I commented out exec in upstart script but program starts still
[12:38] <jarco> I can't get my user logon with samba working (i can see the files) I did sambapasswd -a for that user and still it is not working
[12:38] <jarco> any suggestions
[12:39] <ikonia> jarco: that updates the sambapassword database
[12:39] <mn2010> what auth module are you using?
[12:39] <ikonia> jarco: what "login" are you talking about
[12:39] <ikonia> jarco: the login to the ubuntu desktop, the login to a share
[12:40] <jarco> i created a user to access a sharze
[12:40] <teeceepee> anyone's got an idea with upstart, I deleted <job>.conf runs restart <job> and it starts
[12:40] <jarco> i ll write my steps down here
[12:41] <ikonia> jarco: don't need to do that
[12:41] <jarco> oh ok
[12:41] <ikonia> jarco: just answer the qestion
[12:41] <jarco> :)
[12:41] <jarco> i created a user and gave it a passwd
[12:41] <ikonia> jarco: what login are you talking about - a login to the ubuntu desktop, or the connection to a share
[12:41] <jarco> then i did the sambapassword thing
[12:41] <jarco> and i also added the user in the samba config file
[12:42] <jarco> I am trying to connect to the share from my laptop and the share is on my desktop
[12:42] <jarco> and it keeps prompting for the login
[12:42] <ikonia> jarco: ok, what OS is the laptop ?
[12:42] <mn2010> i hate upstart... i wish they would of stuck with rc. jobs, or moved on to systemd
[12:42] <jarco> fedora
[12:42] <ikonia> jarco: and the server ?
[12:42] <jarco> but it also happens oon my pivos (android)
[12:42] <jarco> server = ubuntu 13.04
[12:43] <ikonia> jarco: ok, how are you trying to mount the share in fedora /
[12:43] <jarco> i just do smb://ipadresshere
[12:43] <ikonia> jarco: ok, so lets do a test
[12:43] <jarco> Its in my local lan
[12:44] <ikonia> jarco: from the terminal on your fedora machine, please do "mount -t cifs -o username=sambausername //yourserver/yourshare /mnt
[12:44] <mumpitze1> kc4lzn: hm?
[12:45] <jarco> ikonia, can't find //ip/folder in /etc/fstab
[12:46] <ikonia> jarco: show me the exact command you used please, exactly
[12:48] <jarco_> ikonia, mount -t cifs -o pivos=pivos //192.168.1.240/series
[12:48] <ikonia> jarco_: you need /mnt on the end, and it was "-o username="
[12:48] <jarco_> oops  sorry
[12:48] <ikonia> jarco_: sorry, user= not username=
[12:49] <mn2010> ikonia: has pam support been fixed on samba(server) yet on ubuntu?
[12:49] <ikonia> mn2010: I'm not aware of it being break
[12:49] <ikonia> broken
[12:49] <mn2010> ikonia: user/username both work, longform is depreciated though
[12:50] <jarco_> ikonia, mount error(13): Permission denied
[12:50] <ikonia> jarco_: ok, so you need to use sudo/be root
[12:50] <jarco_> ikonia, i am root
[12:50] <ikonia> jarco_: then you shouldn't be getting permissions deined using mount
[12:50] <ikonia> jarco_: did it prompt you for a password ?
[12:50] <jarco_> the user should be the samba user correct?
[12:50] <houser> when on earth will ubuntu upgrade to mysql 5.6 and php 5.4 ?
[12:50] <jarco_> yes it asked for a password
[12:51] <ikonia> jarco_: yes, the user is the samba account
[12:51] <mn2010> well i havent checked in a while, first it was hanging(100% processing power) problem with the pam module, then support stopped all together.
[12:52] <mn2010> there is a ppa for that houser
[12:52] <houser> no ppa
[12:52] <houser> im talking real repo
[12:52] <jarco> So if I get this permission denied that should be the cause of the problem correct?
[12:53] <ikonia> jarco: yes, looks like you've not setup the permissions correctly for your samba user
[12:53] <jarco> I looked in 3 seperate guides and they all did it the same way I did. So I must have overlooked something?
[12:54] <teeceepee> how do I force kill a stuck upstart process ?
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[12:55] <cheshair> Hi! Anyone knows where to find a Ubuntu Raring Skype 4.2.0.11 profile?
[12:55] <teeceepee> stop: Unknown instance:
[12:56] <mn2010> php: http://is.gd/JBb77m | mysql(oracle): http://is.gd/Y7oIQl
[12:56] <blazemore> cheshair: What do you mean by "skype profile" ?
[12:56] <mn2010> sorry was having trouble finding the PPA i was using for mysql
[12:56] <jarco> ikonia, if it helps: this is my samba config http://pastebin.com/2juNGZBL
[12:56] <cocoing> skype account?
[12:57] <blazemore> !skype | cheshair
[12:57] <dv-> jarco: if you're only connecting linux machines consider using sshfs
[12:58] <cfhowlett> cheshair, it's in the partner repositories
[12:58] <jarco> dv-, I am using an android device with xbmc also.
[12:58] <mn2010> probably post 14.10, as mysql's license changed, and idk about php, doesnt seem to be a reason. ask the team?
[12:59] <mn2010> pkill {id/appname} or killall {id/appname}
[13:00] <ztane> hi
[13:00] <cfhowlett> ztane, greetings
[13:00] <ztane> anyone knows if I can make chromium, firefox play mp4 as html5 video?
[13:00] <ztane> *h264
[13:01] <blazemore> ztane: from what perspective, you mean you want to embed h.264 video on a website?
[13:01] <blazemore> ztane: Or you want to use your browser as a video player for local media?
[13:01] <ztane> blazemore: yes, in <video>element
[13:01] <jarco> ikonia, is it maybe possible the problem is related to the fact that its a usb disk under /media/username and samba is not allowing other users to look in therE?
[13:02] <blazemore> ztane: "yes" to the first one or the second?
[13:02] <ztane> blazemore: fx22 supports it on windows if the codec is installed... I need it for some authoring
[13:02] <ztane> blazemore: embed
[13:02] <mn2010> Chromium already plays MP4 with H.264, Firefox hasnt included support yet(except for in trunk), but you can use plugins to forward it to vlc_embed if you like
[13:03] <ztane> mn2010: does not play on ubuntu
[13:03] <ztane> mn2010: not on my computer
[13:04] <mn2010> do you have chromium-codecs installed?
[13:04] <ztane> http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody/test.html i tried downloading the mp4 video from there and using it in <video> tag, does not work...
[13:04] <ztane> mn2010: obviously not?
[13:04] <ztane> :D
[13:05] <mn2010> chromium doesnt use system codecs, and h.264 in firefox-trunk isnt enabled(its coded, just not enabled... mozilla is being a pain about it, due to licensing)
[13:06] <ztane> mn2010: not enabled... but windows version 22 reenabled it afaik...
[13:07] <mn2010> http://is.gd/63LaMi - will simply tell you what codecs are support
[13:07] <mn2010> atleast what is being exposed.
[13:07] <mn2010> its YT btw.
[13:08] <ztane> mn2010: ah ok, works, I read somewhere that chromium-codecs-ffmpeg should be installed, but <video> didnt work until chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra too
[13:08] <jarco> I have 2 folder on an external usb drive that samba is not allowing me access to. When I use the exact same configuration on a folder in my homedrive its working just fine. How to solve this?
[13:09] <mn2010> ztane: Just to warn you, the Chromium builds on Ubuntu are quite out of date.
[13:09] <cheshair> cfhowlett: blazemore: truly sorry! i said it wrong! I meant:
[13:09] <cheshair> Hi! Anyone knows where to find an apparmor profile Ubuntu Raring Skype 4.2.0.11?
[13:09] <ztane> mn2010: that is ok, just need to run some mp4 videos in browser without buying a windows computer
[13:10] <kc4lzn> mumpitze1: Yesterday, we spoke briefly about a dual boot problem I had with 10.04 and 12.04 and wanted to share my fix if you wish?
[13:11] <cheshair> ooops i did it again! an apparmor profile *for* Skype on Ubuntu 13.04
[13:11] <auronandace> mn2010: quite out of date? the repos have version 28
[13:12] <banzounet> Hey guys to update phpmyadmin, what else should  I do besides moving the new folder?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:13] <SR> Hey dude
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> !info chromium-browser
[13:16] <alphix> help
[13:16] <alphix> clear
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !details|alphix,
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> mn2010: not old at all
[13:18] <jarco> ikonia, not sure if you will read this but I solved it. The problem was that the folder was an ntfs folder on an external drive. I could not allow another user then the owned access to it (and user was not allowed to be changed). So I have used my main user and added it to the samba uisers and now it works. Thanks for the help!
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> mn2010: http://portableapps.com/news/2013-07-09--google-chrome-portable-28.0.1500.71-released    was released on 9th of this month. Where are you getting 'old' from???
[13:19] <sirspazzolot> yo dawgsss, can anyone see any problems in my windows 8 grub2 entry? generated by os-prober/grub2-mkconfig. here's a paste: http://bpaste.net/show/YLQZo9uXPgWilSCBBCRo/
[13:19] <onetwothree> Anyone has experience with recordmydesktop?  It mysteriously stop when it is encoding - somewhere around 60%-70%
[13:19]  * cfhowlett ... "yo dawgsss" ?
[13:19] <sirspazzolot> it boots to a black screen. pressing the power button puts it in hibernate, power button again and selecting windows 8 brings up an error screen
[13:19] <sirspazzolot> cfhowlett: sorry I'm tired ._.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> sirspazzolot, :)
[13:20] <\n> Hi, I have a problem. I downloaded Ubuntu 13.04 (64 bit) and used LiLi to create a bootable USB, but I get the error "Boot loader | /casper/vmlinuz: file not found" when booting it.
[13:20] <surio> varunendra, you there?
[13:20] <streulma> hello, what will say errors=remount-ro, will this act on boot? or while the system is running?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> \n  try unetbootin or start up disk creator instead
[13:21] <cfhowlett> \n, try unetbootin to create your media
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> \n: did you md5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:21] <\n> Yes
[13:21] <sirspazzolot> my current boot strategy is use the windows disc to overwrite the mbr and when I need to get back to linux I chroot in and reinstall grub :P this is less than optimal
[13:21] <surio> \n your usb is probably conked out
[13:21] <Ekushey> \n: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[13:21] <\n> I'll try Unetbootin, thanks.
[13:22] <surio> LiLi is good with creation of 13.04 AFAIR
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> unetbootin is in the repos
[13:22] <Ekushey> I never heard of LiLi
[13:22] <surio> \n it's most likely your usb
[13:22] <blazemore> \n: I've never had a problem with LiLi, don't forget to follow its instructions and use windows' "Safely Remove" feature on your USB!
[13:22] <surio> Ekushey, it's quite jazzy ;)
[13:22] <sirspazzolot> MonkeyDust: it is, but with some images and sometimes the ones it downloads itself the drive fails to boot
[13:22] <dennisxz> surio
[13:23] <sirspazzolot> MonkeyDust: that is, the versions in the repo. getting it from the sourceforge has always fixed any problems I've had. no idea why there's a discrepency
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> sirspazzolot  anywayz, i use multisystem
[13:23] <dennisxz> shut UP! surio
[13:23] <varunendra> surio, yup
[13:23] <surio> dennisxz, yes?
[13:23] <dennisxz> no
[13:23] <dennisxz> sorry
[13:23] <dennisxz> sorry surio
[13:23] <Ekushey> surio: ah now i know what it is, they probably changed their name... the logo looks familiar
[13:23] <surio> np, false alarm :)
[13:23] <sirspazzolot> so anyway, any problems with this grub entry? http://bpaste.net/show/YLQZo9uXPgWilSCBBCRo/ is grub supposed to aim at the large windows 8 partition or the small system one?
[13:24] <surio> varunendra, the wifi drops and auto connects time to time...
[13:24] <\n> Huh, /casper/vmlinuz.efi exists but /casper/vmlinuz doesn't. I don't have EFI.
[13:24] <surio> dennisxz, who did you mistake me for?
[13:24] <varunendra> surio, the "wl" old version ??
[13:24] <surio> yu
[13:24] <surio> yus
[13:24] <surio> I have half a mind to switch to 13.04
[13:25] <Ekushey> \n: why not try to unetbootin and get back if you face the same problem?
[13:25] <surio> since this is a brand new install anyway, and make my bed with 14.04 LTS
[13:25] <Ekushey> *try with
[13:25] <\n> I'll try
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> surio: are you sharing a wifi channel with a lot of networks?
[13:25] <mn2010> Windows 8 - Secure boot and grub... not good bed fellow.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> surio: have you disabled ipv6 (I assume you don't use it)
[13:25] <surio> ActionParsnip, good Q. but no. Just mine, and occasionally my smart phones
[13:25] <varunendra> surio, you may try it in Live session. If it works better (with the native brcmsmac), you can either upgrade, or just use its kernel in 12.04.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> surio: have yo utried disabling N speed in the wifi using module options?
[13:26] <surio> ActionParsnip, disabled :)
[13:26] <sirspazzolot> \n: my computer is really confusing me, I dno't have EFI but so many things seem to think I do. and they work properly despite not knowing I'm on BIOS/MBR
[13:26] <surio> ActionParsnip, what's that?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> surio: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan | grep -i chann     do you see many networks on the same channel
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> surio: what wifi drive module are you using?
[13:27] <varunendra> surio, if I remember correctly, you disabled the security? (was WPA with TKIP)??
[13:27] <surio> wl (Broadcom 4313 is my flipping chip)
[13:27] <chunkyhead> does anyone here use iopus imacros on firefox need some help. or can u point me to another channel?
[13:27] <surio> varunendra, it is WEP with TKIP still
[13:27] <blazemore> chunkyhead: #firefox
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> surio: http://askubuntu.com/questions/110584/bcm4313-wireless-card-keeps-disconnecting
[13:28] <varunendra> surio, and channel 11 perhaps.... anyway, the WEP - TKIP may be a factor adding to the problem whatever it is.
[13:28] <surio> it is on channel 11
[13:29] <chunkyhead> thanks
[13:29] <surio> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5914841/
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> surio: worth a shot http://askubuntu.com/questions/110584/bcm4313-wireless-card-keeps-disconnecting
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> surio: ok its not a busy channel then
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> surio: tried setting the router to g speed, to test
[13:30] <surio> I run other distros off USB
[13:30] <surio> and they don't give issues
[13:30] <surio> So, the router setup is okay
[13:30] <surio> And the smartphones connect too
[13:31] <surio> And remain connected.... :)
[13:31] <surio> This is dual boot machine, so Win7 is also np
[13:31] <surio> I am really thinking of moving to 13.04
[13:31] <surio> this is a new install of 12.04.2 (last night)
[13:32] <sirspazzolot> surio: with the exception of the unity switch imo every ubuntu is worth upgrading to from the last
[13:32] <surio> hehe sirspazzolot
[13:33] <shivendra> hello everyone
[13:33] <lancien> hi
[13:33] <surio> you two related ? :)
[13:33] <sirspazzolot> but it's not so much that I detest unity now, more that I don't feel very comfortable using most mouse interfaces anymore
[13:33] <surio> varunendra,  you two related ? :)
[13:33] <vim> need help guys
[13:34] <cfhowlett> !details|vim
[13:34] <shivendra> i want to create a bootable linux installation but also want that sotwares i install onto that must remain preserved. how can i ? :(
[13:34] <auronandace> !usb | shivendra
[13:34] <shivendra> currently i'm on ubuntu
[13:34] <varunendra> surio, you can use 13.04's kernel in 12.04 if you wish, by installing "linux-image-generic-raring" package..
[13:34] <surio> aha
[13:34] <varunendra> surio, me and ActionParsnip ??
[13:35] <shivendra> auronandace, yers sir
[13:35] <surio> you and shivendr....
[13:35] <surio> the names looked familiar :)
[13:35] <varunendra> haha... , maybe by citizenship... ;)
[13:35] <surio> ahh
[13:36] <surio> okay, in a sense, you'd rather I stick with 12.04, and try kernel updates only
[13:36] <shivendra> varunendra, have you ever been in Satna
[13:36] <varunendra> surio, nope
[13:36] <surio> shivendra, have you looked at knoppix ?
[13:37] <surio> eh?
[13:37] <surio> varunendra, ??
[13:37] <varunendra> surio, sorry, I meant shivendra ^^ :P
[13:37] <surio> aha
[13:37] <kc4lzn> mumpitze1: second, would you like for me to share with you what I did to fix my problem from yesterday?
[13:37] <surio> so my Q, varunendra ?
[13:37] <varunendra> anyway.... surio can you run this script ? : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qjc87hzk1z5x6z0/wireless_script  -- it will create a detailed summary of your wireless setup.
[13:38] <varunendra> shivendra, I used knoppix long ago. Currently I sometimes use Slax which is based on Konppix.
[13:38] <varunendra> shivendra, oops, the tab error, I meant surio ^^, I used knoppix long ago. Currently I sometimes use Slax which is based on Konppix.
[13:39] <auronandace> varunendra: slax is based on slackware
[13:39] <varunendra> auronandace, I think they have some variants..
[13:39] <doomlord> desktop  navigation, i have an itch, i would like the same hotkey to trigger either 'expo' or 'scale'. it would be ok to just toggle. better still, picking one or the other based on context. (if no windows are hidden on this desktop, show desktops. else show either desktops or scale toggled vs the last invocation)
[13:39] <Guest70249> how do i use huewei data modem with ubuntu
[13:39] <Guest70249> ne help
[13:39] <Guest70249> plz
[13:40] <Guest70249> ubuntu versuon 12.04
[13:40] <Guest70249> hueweu e153u-1
[13:41] <varunendra> Guest70249, it should be natively supported by the kernel driver "option". If not.. you can force bind that driver.. but the link to do so was from the forums which is down :(
[13:42] <Guest70249> whats kernal driver option @ varunendra
[13:42] <Guest70249> sry new to ub untu
[13:43] <Guest70249> do u mean automatically
[13:44] <varunendra> Guest70249, "option" is the name of the driver that handles these devices. Anyway please show us the output of "lsusb | grep -i huewei"
[13:44] <Stolas> Hello Ubuntu People
[13:44] <surio> Slax is based on Slackware, Shivendra, and I think that actually fits your requirements you stated above
[13:44] <zhaotongxue> how I can use my own keyboard?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Stolas, greetings
[13:45] <Guest70249> wait will do that
[13:45] <zhaotongxue> Like click ctrl+alt+t show terminal
[13:45] <zhaotongxue> ?
[13:45] <cfhowlett> zhaotongxue, keybindings you mean.  see your settings
[13:45] <zhaotongxue> what's mean?
[13:45] <zhaotongxue> this is xubuntu
[13:45] <shivendra> surio, thanx but i've already downloaded mint 15
[13:45] <zhaotongxue> in ubuntu,I know where
[13:45] <zhaotongxue> but i don't know in xubuntu
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> shivendra: mint isnt supported here
[13:46] <blazemore> !xubuntu | zhaotongxue
[13:46] <surio> zhaotongxue, System > Settings
[13:46] <teeceepee> upstart is such a tart
[13:46] <zhaotongxue> no setting menu
[13:46] <wilee-nilee> raspberry or strawberry
[13:46] <blazemore> zhaotongxue: Go ask in #xubuntu, this is the Ubuntu support channel
[13:47] <Sc0tty-> Hello.
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Sc0tty-, greetings
[13:47] <zhaotongxue> I see a place
[13:47] <Stolas> Scotty, welcome
[13:47] <surio> ^^ Very haiku "I see a place"
[13:47] <surio> XD
[13:47] <zhaotongxue> In my other computer ,I use ubuntu
[13:47] <\n> I used Unetbootin, now I get "Failed to load COM32 file menu.c32".
[13:48] <zhaotongxue> I will sleep
[13:48] <surio> \n check md5 of your iso
[13:48] <zhaotongxue> Buy
[13:48] <zhaotongxue> see you then?
[13:48] <blazemore> \n: if i were you I'd use Windows to check the drive for errors
[13:48] <zhaotongxue> may be
[13:48] <\n> surio, I did, it's correct
[13:48] <surio> zhaotongxue, bye bye
[13:48] <\n> blazemore, ok
[13:48] <zhaotongxue> byby
[13:48] <surio> \n in that case, it is definitely your usb
[13:49] <surio> varunendra, this script is great!
[13:49] <Sc0tty-> surio: what does your script do if you don't mind me asking?
[13:49] <varunendra> surio, not my work.. :)
[13:50] <surio> Sc0tty-, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qjc87hzk1z5x6z0/wireless_script
[13:50] <surio> Sc0tty-, "gathers the infos necessary for troubleshooting a wireless
[13:50] <surio>     # connection and saves them in a text file, wrapping it in an archive if it
[13:50] <surio>     # exceeds the size limit of 19.5 kB"
[13:50] <wilee-nilee> \n, Have you checked the sum of the ISO?
[13:50] <surio> wilee-nilee, he did
[13:50] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.opensuse.org/5105993
[13:51] <tom_o> hellow
[13:51] <varunendra> Sc0tty-, it creates a summary of wireless setup to help troubleshooting issues : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qjc87hzk1z5x6z0/wireless_script
[13:51] <surio> ^^ output of the script
[13:51] <tom_o> im still at my problem since yesterday
[13:52] <wilee-nilee> tom_o, Which is?
[13:52] <tom_o> start garena plus using wine and it says fatal error! folder acces denied, try to run as administrator
[13:52] <\n> CHKDSK found no errors.
[13:53] <wilee-nilee> tom_o, http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15022
[13:53] <mn2010> tom_o: change permissions
[13:53] <wawrek> hey
[13:54] <tom_o> how to
[13:54] <tom_o> ?
[13:54] <varunendra> surio, that pastebin is terribly slow... :(
[13:55] <varunendra> surio, I'm on a snail pace gprs connection... but c'mon, it's just a pastebin :(
[13:55] <Sc0tty-> surio: nice, I guess you work as a network engineer or the sorts?
[13:55] <varunendra> ok, finally opened..
[13:55] <wilee-nilee> tom_o, YOU been to #winehq
[13:55] <RxDx> please, I have a computer running HostAPD... How can I see whom is connected on my AccessPoint (AP)? I think theres a file that lists the clients..
[13:55] <varunendra> Sc0tty-, the authors of that script are mentioned on the script :)
[13:56] <tom_o> im joined the channel
[13:56] <tom_o> but no ones there
[13:57] <Hyperbyte> I am having the most interesting issue today on Ubuntu 12.04.2 with Gnome classic desktop.  This is an LTSP server, with lots of people logged in.  After login, everything on the desktop works fine.  Firefox auto starts, which is very usable, calendar applet works.... but as soon as someone clicks the Gnome menu, the whole user session completely locks up
[13:57] <varunendra> surio, I think we used the older version of "wl" driver ?? It is showing brcmsmac ????
[13:57] <Sc0tty-> no I never ment you wrote the script, just assumed that would be the reason that you are using it.
[13:57] <bobz_zg> Hi
[13:57] <wilee-nilee> tom_o, 203 user but things can be slow on channels with less people and a smaller overall app application rather than a OS. Just an option  is all.
[13:58] <Hyperbyte> Does anyone have any ideas on how to remedy this?
[13:58] <wilee-nilee> tom_o, YOu look at the wine link I sent you?
[13:58] <tom_o> yes
[13:58] <wilee-nilee> cool
[13:58] <vlt> Hyperbyte: Does this happen also in a vncserver session?
[13:58] <surio> Sc0tty-, I am using it to fix my own problems, although there is a definite use case for n/w debugging as you mentioned
[13:58] <tom_o> i already read it but resolution about administrator
[13:58] <bobz_zg> I'm having trouble with permissions. I have user in group 33, but when I upload files via ftp, wordpress doesnt have permissions to r/w files
[13:58] <wilee-nilee> tom_o, Personally I don't bother with wine I just dualboot.
[13:58] <surio> varunendra, is it on brcmsmac ??
[13:58] <Hyperbyte> vlt, not sure... vncserver isn't running.  I could try nx, there's an nxserver on there.
[13:58] <bobz_zg> what should i do
[13:58] <wawrek> did anyone manage to install emacs24 on ubutnu? in my case it fails when I try to run ecb.
[13:59] <tom_o> ho to join channel from here ?
[13:59] <surio> damn! yes, I see lsmod now varunendra
[13:59] <vlt> Hyperbyte: Do the clients connect via X or NX?
[13:59] <varunendra> surio, did you remove the wl again?
[13:59] <wilee-nilee> tom_o /j "channel"
[13:59] <Hyperbyte> vlt, LTSP uses X11 forwarding.  I have NX for working from home, but nobody is working form home today
[13:59] <surio> varunendra, not at all why would i? come on :P
[14:00] <varunendra> :P
[14:00] <surio> as such I am happy it works... less temperamental than morning, but still buggy...
[14:00] <vlt> Hyperbyte: If you could test in a “local” session on the server you could tell whether it’s the client’s X server hanging or something alreadyy on the server.
[14:00] <varunendra> surio, what does "dpkg -s bcmwl-kernel-source | grep -i version" show?
[14:00] <tom_o> nothings happen i type /j "winehq"
[14:00] <surio> Then there's the question of pinnnig the package
[14:00] <latenite> Hi folks, where are the de-latin1.map.gz keymap files located? I did find /usr/ -name "de-*.map.gz" with no result
[14:01] <wilee-nilee> tom_o, /j winehq
[14:01] <surio> varunendra, "Version: 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu6"
[14:01] <Hyperbyte> vlt, right, good idea.
[14:01] <wilee-nilee> tom_o, er /j #winehq
[14:01] <surio> same as the morning, varunendra
[14:01] <wilee-nilee> forgot the #
[14:01] <vlt> Hyperbyte: Some programs tend to put massive load on the X server because they “think” it makes things easier.
[14:02] <Hyperbyte> vlt, interesting thing is that everything works great.  I'm on one of the affected clients now... alt+f2 and alt+t to start programs go fine.
[14:02] <varunendra> surio, that's kinda weird, the very installation should have renamed the interface as "eth<something>" while it is currently "wlan0"..
[14:02] <vlt> Hyperbyte: They forget that in an LTSP environment the X server runs on the client.
[14:02] <vlt> Hyperbyte: Which might suffer from too less RAM or CPU7GPU power.
[14:02] <Hyperbyte> As long as I don't click the Ubuntu menu on top left everything is fine. :)
[14:02] <Hyperbyte> This is long running install though... problem creeped up today.  Either way it's good to try a local session.
[14:03] <chadams42> how can I add a user to have permissions to a folder, without modifying the current permissions I have there?
[14:03] <vlt> Hyperbyte: Did you update the chroot env?
[14:03] <Hyperbyte> vlt, nope.
[14:03] <Hyperbyte> Nor the master.  Haven't touched this.
[14:03] <varunendra> surio, I think the udev rules may have something to do with this.. we can delete those lines regarding wlan0 in it, but that shouldn't have needed.
[14:03] <vlt> Hyperbyte: What do df and free say?
[14:03] <Hyperbyte> vlt, if I run ls -al /usr/share/applications on the server it also goes fine
[14:04] <chadams42> I want group "developers" to have access to 3 folders, but user "rsvp" to only have access to one of those folders.
[14:04] <surio> varunendra, I am more and more convinced that 13 is the way to go, for now.....
[14:04] <Hyperbyte> vlt, well 'free' at up the entire 32 GB ram, but nothing swapped yet
[14:04] <varunendra> surio, for now you may try manually blacklisting brcmsmac, and adding "wl" to /etc/modules to make sure it gets loaded at boot time, not the brcmsmac..
[14:04] <surio> And hopefully 14 LTS would be bright as sunshine
[14:04] <OerHeks> chadams42, if you do not want to edit the permissions, add te user to the same group as the current permissions
[14:04] <Hyperbyte> vlt, and df............. hangs?
[14:04] <vlt> Hyperbyte: The w/o caches line is the most interesting
[14:04] <Hyperbyte> Oh
[14:04] <varunendra> surio, yup... the sunshine ;)
[14:04] <vlt> Hyperbyte: Ha
[14:05] <Hyperbyte> vlt, I have it.
[14:05] <Hyperbyte> Stale NFS volume.
[14:05] <chadams42> OerHeks: I don;t want the user to have access to the other two folders
[14:05] <nyuszika7h> why won't Ubuntu fit on a 700 MB CD? ;_;
[14:05] <vlt> Hyperbyte: It was a pleasure :-)
[14:05] <blazemore> chadams42: Look at Access Control Lists
[14:05] <Hyperbyte> Why on earth it would bog the system down like this though.... that's really bad.
[14:05] <nyuszika7h> I'm trying to write it to a CD-RW because apparently something is wrong with my USB stick
[14:05] <wilee-nilee> nyuszika7h, Look at the data size with a right click.
[14:05] <Hyperbyte> The NFS volume isn't even being used.
[14:05] <nyuszika7h> it's 785 MB
[14:05] <blazemore> nyuszika7h: The Ubuntu disk images no longer fit on a standard 700Mb CD, you need to use a DVD
[14:05] <vlt> Hyperbyte: Maybe the ubuntu menu uses it to generate icons.
[14:06] <nyuszika7h> I know... but I don't have one ._.
[14:06]  * nyuszika7h looks for the minimal ISO
[14:06] <blazemore> nyuszika7h: But you should definitely try checking your USB drive with Windows' disk checker first
[14:06] <nyuszika7h> blazemore: I did
[14:06] <nyuszika7h> no errors
[14:06] <Hyperbyte> vlt, nope.  it's an empty directory, which I mounted for some experiment.  I've since restarted the experiment server without umounting (forgot)
[14:06] <wilee-nilee> nyuszika7h, right more than 700 MB and the allowed about 30 more MB usually allowed, it has been this way for awhile.
[14:06] <nyuszika7h> wait, I have another USB stick I could try
[14:06] <wilee-nilee> nyuszika7h, The minimal is now a netload.
[14:07] <Hyperbyte> vlt, umount -f /directory... fixed
[14:07] <nyuszika7h> you mean netboot?
[14:07] <wilee-nilee> nyuszika7h, No net load, it is about 30MB in size
[14:07] <nyuszika7h> oh
[14:07] <tom_o> no one talk at winehq channel haha
[14:07] <wilee-nilee> nyuszika7h, Good way to install though.
[14:07] <varunendra> surio, the PINing part is easy though. It's just a file with 3 lines in /etc/apt/preferences.d directory. The first line is package name, second one its version and 3rd one its priority (1001)
[14:08] <Hyperbyte> vlt, this is horribly kernel performance though... one unused stale NFS entry and the thing completely screws up.  That's pretty bizarre.
[14:08] <wilee-nilee> nyuszika7h, Takes longer, however if you add a regular install time with the iso download about the same.
[14:08] <blazemore> tom_o: You just have to ask your question and *wait* for a reply, do not leave the channel
[14:09] <wilee-nilee> nyuszika7h, NIce thing is the install is updated.
[14:09] <nyuszika7h> ah
[14:10] <DrekAlots> I'm trying to install an extention in virtual box and it keeps asking for the admin password. I use my password and it fails. Ubuntu doesn't use a root account so what gives?
[14:10] <blazemore> DrekAlots: "an extension" what do you mean?
[14:10] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, YOu installing inside the vbox?
[14:11] <wilee-nilee> and what extension
[14:11] <DrekAlots> blazemore: It's an Oracle_VM extension for USB connectivity. WHen you double click the file it launches vbox to install it but then fails because no root password is given.
[14:11] <\n> I get the same /casper/vmlinuz error now. ._.
[14:12] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, you can add a usb in the settings
[14:12] <DrekAlots> wille-nilee: This is for the EHCI USB 2.0 controller.
[14:12] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, I figured an other than usb HD/flash, was  not sure though.
[14:13] <yalex> Hello, having troubles with files created on a cifs samba share.  The second user can open files I create (through Ubuntu 12.04), they are using Windows and I cannot open their files/folders.  Permissions for the folder is 770 and the group is users (which are the primary group on the samba server)
[14:14] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, NOt familiar, but I wonder if it is to be run inside the guest or host.
[14:14] <carvalho> OI
[14:16] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, Some info here. http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html You might call the #vbox channel as well.
[14:18] <varunendra> DrekAlots, I installed the extension pack long ago, so I may not remember correctly, but I think I didn't need admin password to install it.
[14:18] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, More here as well, addresses users group and that type of controller using settings. http://www.faqforge.com/linux/enable-usb-support-in-virtualbox-ubuntu/
[14:19] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: thanks.
[14:19] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, that extension pack is kinda plugin to virtualbox, a separate binary file.
[14:19] <wilee-nilee> \n, I use the multisystem loader at pendrive linux for usb loads.
[14:19] <surio> varunendra, I'll have to reboot the machine. Will get back to you over the weekend... if I remain iwth 12.04 or move to 13.04
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Cool, just passing info.
[14:20] <blazemore> I saved myself a headache and ended up getting an iso-stick
[14:20] <surio> \n what did you do differently now?
[14:20] <varunendra> DrekAlots, what if you open virtualbox first, then "File > Preferences > Extensions > add yours (must be supported version)
[14:20] <varunendra> surio, I'll be curious :)
[14:20] <wilee-nilee> \n, Miltiple user have suggested the usb may be toast have you reformatted it for kicks in any of this?
[14:21] <wilee-nilee> Multiple*
[14:21] <DrekAlots> varunendra: checking now.
[14:21] <surio> wilee-nilee, I was the first to suggest the broken usb ;)
[14:21] <surio> hehe
[14:21]  * surio pats own back :)
[14:22] <DrekAlots> varunendra: Still asking for password.
[14:22] <surio> goodbye room
[14:22] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, With a quick glance on that device it looked like a usb addition in settings as well was needed, but I was just glancing.
[14:23] <blazemore> DrekAlots: What are you actually trying to do? Are you following any instructions? Can you link them?
[14:23] <wilee-nilee> for the device though I guess
[14:23] <varunendra> DrekAlots, then I might have mistaken, but it shouldn't be any different than any other sudo task. Are you sure you are typing correct password and caps lock etc is fine?
[14:23] <Sophaya> Hi, I'm assuming that if a repository is giving me a 404 error, then it's dead and there's no way for me to get the software via terminal?
[14:24] <wilee-nilee> Sophaya, What release are you running?
[14:24] <DrekAlots> blazemore: no instructions. just installing an extension.
[14:24] <Sophaya> 13.04
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Sophaya: not all PPAs support all releases.
[14:24] <OerHeks> Sophaya, dead is dead, what repo exactly?
[14:24] <Sophaya> one moment
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Sophaya: did you check for another PPA?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Sophaya: there is more than one PPA on launchpad
[14:24] <\n> Ok, I've ddrescued the mini.iso to my USB. Installing now.
[14:25] <Sophaya> This one
[14:25] <Sophaya> http://ppa.launchpad.net/paullo612/unityshell-rotated/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[14:25] <\n> Of course I verified the SHA1 checksum too.
[14:25] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, those settings are "Per VM" settings, while extension pack is for VBox, universal for all VMs..
[14:25] <Sophaya> It was one I added
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Sophaya: http://ppa.launchpad.net/paullo612/unityshell-rotated/ubuntu/dists/
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Sophaya: only supports Oneiric and Precise
[14:25] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, those USB settings (per VM) can't be enabled unless the extension pack is installed.
[14:26] <Sophaya> So they will not work on 13.04?
[14:26] <yalex> I have force create mode at 0700 and directory mode 770 and create mask at 770 but a folder I"m creating in the samba share does not provide write access to the group
[14:26] <blazemore> Sophaya: no, it will 404
[14:26] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Ah sort of what I figured I only use the general extension.
[14:26] <Sophaya> Ah I see, what is so different that it will not work?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Sophaya: not that PPA, there may be another oe supporting Raring, or you can contact the PPA maintainer to see if they intend to support Raring
[14:27] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, the windows version includes the extension pack by default I guess... :)
[14:27] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Yeah I think so.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Sophaya: or reinstall with Precise which is LTS and supported wayyyy past Raring and use the PPA
[14:28] <Sophaya> Hm I see
[14:30] <wilee-nilee> Sophaya, You trying to  move the unity panel?
[14:30] <Sophaya> Yes
[14:30] <Sophaya> I'm trying to find a means of getting it on the bottom of the screen.
[14:31] <tom_o> how can i change my account permission to root?
[14:31] <wilee-nilee> Sophaya, The holy grail, lol I just use the cairo-dock
[14:31] <blazemore> !sudo | tom_o
[14:31] <Sophaya> I've tried cairo, lol, I didn't like it, it felt sluggish.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: accounts in the 'sudo' group have root access
[14:31] <\n> I have a problem...
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Sophaya: docky? cairo-dock?
[14:32] <blazemore> Sophaya: You could look at another desktop environment like XFCE or KDE (try #xubuntu or #kubuntu)
[14:32] <\n> Mirror does not support the specified release (raring)
[14:32] <wilee-nilee> Sophaya, One would think if possible there would be allowances to move it anywhere.
[14:32] <tom_o> i cant change the folder permission
[14:32] <Sophaya> I've tried a few and asides the immovable launcher bar, unity seems to be the best for my system
[14:33] <tom_o> it always back to "----" after i change it to read and write
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: is it stored on NTFS?
[14:34] <tom_o> how to check?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: do you dual boot the system
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: ?
[14:35] <JennaKitten> anyone know how i can make my volume buttons wwork on my samsung np350v5c-t02us with 13.04? also sound seems to crash a lot and i am reinstalling because unity messed up. also how can i get rid of unity
[14:35] <tom_o> no
[14:35] <JennaKitten> and keep the search thing
[14:35] <tom_o> i only use ubuntu
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: if you run:  mount   do you see ntfs anywhere?
[14:35] <\n> hu.archive.ubuntu.com appears to be down :/
[14:36] <tom_o> no
[14:36] <tom_o> but i think its ntfs
[14:37] <tom_o> coz i use windows xp before and i remember li'l bit
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> \n: then change server
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: if it is stored in NTFS you will need to change the mount settings at mount time
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: you cannot set Linux ACLs on NTFS, it won't work
[14:38] <tom_o> my hardisk doesnt have partition, and i already install on ntfs i think
[14:38] <tom_o> cant change it ?
[14:39] <Dacs> so finally i went from 10.10 to 13.04 :) yayyyy.. well NO. i am noticing a huge amount of lag | slow desktop environment! i.e. when i click to open a terminal , it shows the terminal faded and then gradually comes up as if i am lunching it from the internet or something
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: it will need to be formatted, you can restore the data from backup if needed
[14:39] <\n> Dacs, install the proprietary drivers
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: what video chip do you use?
[14:39] <tom_o> how can i backup? so i need to reinstall ubuntu ?
[14:39] <Dacs> anyone experienced something like that
[14:39] <JennaKitten> ubuntu says the real question is why X isnt using hardware accelleration
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: no, its only an NTFS partition. Why would that need a reinstall?
[14:40] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: am not at that box now i can check it when i am on that box
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: do you have an SSH connection to it?
[14:40] <tom_o> what should i do? can i just change it to fat32 with gparted ?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: that wil need a format, FAT32 is just as bad. You will need a Linux partition to hold Linux ACLs
[14:41] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: i wish man, i used to until my stup*d ISP decided to block all ports
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: does the system have a make and model?
[14:42] <tom_o> doesnt need anything ? just change itu to linux form g parted ?
[14:42] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: dell power edge 860
[14:43] <\n> Dacs, if you don't need a HTTPS server, make sshd listen on port 443
[14:44] <blazemore> Dacs: Port 53 is a good one too; if you're on free public WiFi they usually don't look at port 53 traffic at all, so you can tunnel everything through ssh and browse for free
[14:44] <Dacs> \n: i scanned all the ports and the only one is open was 80
[14:44] <\n> o_O
[14:44] <\n> They block HTTPS?
[14:44] <\n> That's insane.
[14:44] <gordonjcp> Dacs: o_O
[14:45] <clue_h> hoo blook htps?
[14:45] <blazemore> ^ My favourite sentence ever
[14:45] <clue_h> I'm going to use it all the time
[14:45] <Dacs> tell me about it ! i know , but i am setting up this server and i will be moving it to one of my client office which she have no problem with me plugging it on her network
[14:50] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: were you able to figure the vid chip with the make and model
[14:51] <Bean> Mayhaps not the best place to ask, but can anyone point me in the direction for information on transitioning an office that uses Microsoft Access toward more open software (the eventual goal being to migrate from Windows to Ubuntu)
[14:53] <yalex> Samba isn't setting the write permission for new files/folders when saved from my local machine
[14:55] <Bean> how does your smb.conf look?
[14:56] <poison> Help me! 12.04 LTS Broadcom 4313, Bluetooth not working
[14:56] <blazemore> !broadcom | poison
[14:57] <Dacs> !seen ActionParsnip
[14:57] <Dacs> what ever dude :D
[14:58] <BluesKaj> !ubottu
[14:58] <blazemore> Dacs: ActionParsnip was last seen at 15:41:41 BST saying "Dacs: does the system have a make and model?"
[14:59] <yalex> Is there anyone that can please help with samba?
[14:59] <gordonjcp> DJ_Beardsquirt: re Access, have you considered making a webby interface to a "proper" DB?
[14:59] <gordonjcp> !anyone | yalex
[14:59] <Dacs> blazemore: then he must not got my Dacs	ActionParsnip: dell power edge 860
[14:59] <yalex> I've ubottu
[14:59] <yalex> I've tried ubottu
[14:59] <blazemore> Dacs: Perhaps he did but he is busy
[15:00] <blazemore> !details | yalex
[15:00] <Dacs> blazemore: yep! cool i will wait until he pings me
[15:00] <gordonjcp> DJ_Beardsquirt: if you want to talk about webby databasey things, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[15:00] <yalex>  Hello, having troubles with files created on a cifs samba share.  The second user can open files I create (through Ubuntu 12.04), they are using Windows and I cannot open their files/folders.  Permissions for the folder is 770 and the group is users (which are the primary group on the samba server).  I have force create mode at 0700 and directory mode 770 and create mask at 770 but a folder I"m creating in the samba share does not prov
[15:00] <yalex> ide write access to the group
[15:01] <DJ_Beardsquirt> gordonjcp: Sure, that's the route I was considering. I can migrate the database comfortably - but the office uses Access forms extensively and I was just hoping there would be some shortcuts other than creating a new interface from scratch. Think I might be shit out of luck though.
[15:01] <DJ_Beardsquirt> gordonjcp: Cheers, I'll check it out.
[15:02] <like2helpU> yalex, sounds like a permissions problem
[15:02] <gordonjcp> DJ_Beardsquirt: since it's not really an Ubuntu support question
[15:02] <yalex> thanks like2helpU  permissions with what? the directories all have 700 access
[15:03] <yalex> when i create something its setting every permission except write
[15:03] <DJ_Beardsquirt> gordonjcp: fair point. I'm new here, just wasn't sure of the scope of discussion in this room.
[15:03] <DJ_Beardsquirt> gordonjcp: thanks for the advice though!
[15:04] <gordonjcp> DJ_Beardsquirt: as I say, come and talk to me about it in #u-ot
[15:05] <Dacs> !sudo
[15:07] <latenite> Hi folks, where are the de-latin1.map.gz keymap files located? I did find /usr/ -name "de-*.map.gz" with no result
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> layer3: sudo updatedb; locate de-latin1*
[15:08] <layer3> Huh
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> latenite: sudo updatedb; locate de-latin1*
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> layer3: sorry, tab fail
[15:08] <layer3> Huh
[15:10] <latenite> ActionParsnip: desktop ~ # updatedb ;desktop ~ # locate de-latin1*
[15:11] <latenite> returns no result
[15:11] <usr13> latenite: locate map.gz
[15:12] <usr13> latenite: locate map.gz |grep latin
[15:15] <kadal> I have recently installed ubuntu 13.04. I am getting "insufficient Disk space" error message.
[15:15] <blazemore> kadal: Please post the output of running the command "df -h" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in this channel
[15:15] <kadal> Ok
[15:16] <James_Epp> Hey guys. New to linux/experienced windows technician. Just wondering if there is a sort of "SFC" for debian distrobutions.
[15:16] <James_Epp> distributions*
[15:16] <latenite> usr13: that list tons of stuff but none of it is my systems keymaps
[15:16] <latenite> where are yours?
[15:17] <usr13> !info console-data
[15:17] <kadal> kadal@kadal-desktop:~$ df -h
[15:17] <kadal> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[15:17] <kadal> /dev/sdb9       4.0G  3.8G   20K 100% /
[15:17] <kadal> none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[15:17] <kadal> udev            937M  4.0K  937M   1% /dev
[15:17] <andreb> question : how can i apply security updates via cli... i only want to apply security updates
[15:17] <FloodBot1> kadal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:17] <kadal> tmpfs           189M  772K  189M   1% /run
[15:18] <usr13> latenite: Looks like you need to install console-data
[15:18] <usr13> keymaps, fonts, charset maps, fallback tables for console-tools
[15:18] <blazemore> kadal: You only made a 4 gigabyte partition to install Ubuntu in; you need more than that
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> kadal: /dev/sdb9       4.0G  3.8G   20K 100% /    isn't good
[15:18] <usr13> console-tools - Linux console and font utilities
[15:19] <foubarre> hi. I under quantal (checked with /etc/os-release) but cannot update. do-release-upgrade tells me that there is no new version. Anyone knows what could cause this?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> kadal: uninstall unused apps and old kernels
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> kadal  / is 100% full, i'm sure you have too many kernels installed
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> foubarre: you can boot to the Raring install CD and upgrade that way if you want
[15:20] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, Is software sources set for all releases?
[15:20] <foubarre> ActionParsnip: good idea. however, due to the time i would need to prepare this, i would prefer a direct update. I'll keep that in mind if everything else fails.
[15:20] <latenite> usr13: than how is it possible that I even have a german kbd set . I must be here somewhere ?
[15:20] <kadal> this is a fresh nstallation
[15:21] <usr13> i dono
[15:21] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: i hope so. However if i apt-get update, lots of repositories (auantal) are "temporarly moved".
[15:21] <blazemore> kadal: Then you need to do another fresh installation, but this time make sure you install Ubuntu onto a partition which is larger
[15:21] <mJayk> kadal: isnt it normal for an installation to take up ~ 3 gig including software?
[15:21] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: is that related to ubuntu being hacked?
[15:21] <usr13> kadal: It is a fresh installation on a partition that is too small.
[15:21] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, You might check your sources.list, there is a good website for a list of the stock repos.
[15:22] <kadal> one partion is 30gb
[15:22] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, Ubuntu being hacked?
[15:22] <Xabster> how do I completely uninstall the amazon spyware thing?
[15:22] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: forums, that is.. don't know the relations between them and the main organisation.. http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html
[15:22] <mJayk> Xabster: search for uninstall unity lens
[15:22] <usr13> kadal: Show us:  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #Send resulting URL
[15:22] <clue_h> Xabster, apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[15:23] <Xabster> thanks
[15:23] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, The forum was running a closed source system not ubuntu
[15:23] <Xabster> are there other features that send my search terms to commercial companies or anything else I should know?
[15:23] <Xabster> 13.04
[15:23] <ikonia> wilee-nilee: no it wasn't
[15:23] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: ok. thanks
[15:23] <ikonia> wilee-nilee: it was running vbuiliten
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> ikonia, I thought it was to some extent vbuiliten yes, not sure if open or closed I guess. ;)
[15:24] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: can you point me to the site with "stock repos"?
[15:24] <clue_h> Xabster, not that i know of
[15:25] <ikonia> wilee-nilee: stop blaming closed source product - it's not closed, it's just a comercial product that canonical are responsible for maintaining on their servers
[15:25] <usr13> kadal: (You probably should have used the 30G partition, rather than the 4G.)
[15:25] <blazemore> foubarre: I use http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[15:25] <mJayk> Xabster: I think some people go on about removing the online accounts thing or at least double checking it, im not upto date with it though
[15:25] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[15:25] <blazemore> It's the love of my life
[15:25] <blazemore> Although I'm never use whether to choose Great Britain or United Kingdom
[15:26] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: thanks
[15:26] <wilee-nilee> ikonia, Dude if you looked at my about 12,000 post on the UF and all here I never blame close source, that is a projection. ;)
[15:26] <wilee-nilee> A OS is  OS to me
[15:26] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: heh. nice util. thanks again.
[15:26] <varunendra> ikonia, is VBulletin open source? I don't think so..
[15:26] <ikonia> 16:23 < wilee-nilee> foubarre, The forum was running a closed source system not ubuntu
[15:26] <kadal> i have the result of fdisk -l
[15:27] <ikonia> varunendra: it is if you purchase it - it's php based
[15:27] <ikonia> it's just comercial
[15:27] <Lowrider> eSata vs USB 3.0 for live external 13.04
[15:27] <varunendra> oh, ok ikonia didn't know about that.
[15:27] <usr13> kadal: Send the URL
[15:27] <usr13> !paste | kadal
[15:28] <blazemore> Lowrider: I doubt the bottleneck will be the type of connection you use. Both will be fast enough
[15:28] <Lowrider> Blazemore: Thank you! any recomendations on size, SSD vs HDD?
[15:28] <kadal> where can i paste the result?
[15:28] <usr13> kadal: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #Show us the resulting URL   (here)
[15:29] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: figured out the vbox extension issue
[15:29] <blazemore> !ot | Lowrider this isn't the place really
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Lowrider: depends how much space you need and budget
 16:23 < wilee-nilee> foubarre, The forum was running a closed source system not ubuntu The one time I say this and you freak out, lol.
[15:29] <kadal> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[15:29] <kadal> sorry
[15:29] <dan2003> Is there some way to prevent usb audio devices becoming the default alsa device? i.e. hw:0, wihtout having to explecitly set every vid/pid combination in modprobe configs? rather than make each usb audio device hw:1, 2 etc,  is there some way to just force the internal pci one to hw:0 ?
[15:30] <usr13> kadal: Open a terminal, type  "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"  Hit enter, copy&paste the resulting URL here.
[15:30] <kadal> The program 'pastebinit' can be found in the following packages:
[15:30] <kadal>  * pastebinit
[15:30] <kadal>  * pastebinit
[15:30] <kadal> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[15:30] <FloodBot1> kadal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:30] <Lowrider> My bad.
[15:30] <blazemore> dan2003: http://ask.debian.net/questions/how-to-enforce-a-consistent-numbering-of-sound-cards
[15:30] <usr13> kadal: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:30] <kadal> The program 'pastebinit' can be found in the following packages:
[15:30] <kadal>  * pastebinit
[15:30] <kadal>  * pastebinit
[15:30] <kadal> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[15:30] <FloodBot1> kadal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:30] <blazemore> Oh sorry dan2003 I misread your question
[15:30] <blazemore> dan2003: Maybe still helpful though
[15:31] <kadal> Sorry for flooding. i am new to this chat. please bear with me
[15:31] <usr13> kadal: Never mind. Your full. Just go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste the result of   sudo fdisk -l
[15:31] <Anaxandridas> Hi, guys. Recently installed Ubuntu. Am having trouble installing themes. I tried copying the theme into the ~/.themes folder, but it doesn't show up in my themes list. It's also not letting me download themes from the internet. I can view a list, select some, but clicking "Download and Install" has no effect. I have also tried doing it through the Change Desktop Background menu from rightclicking the desktop. Help please?
[15:31] <Anaxandridas> Kadal, that's how you ask a question, by the way :D
[15:31] <usr13> kadal: And then send us the URL of the paste.
[15:32] <dan2003> blazemore, i have a feeling ive read and done this already, but ill check to be sure, USB devices genrally still end up as hw:0 unless each and every 1 is explicitly given an index
[15:32] <usr13> !themes | Anaxandridas
[15:32] <blazemore> Smugness backfired, Anaxandridas
[15:32] <Anaxandridas> usr13, I'm so glad you can type !themes. Any chance you could also supply some assistance?
[15:33] <Anaxandridas> I can FIND themes just fine. Loads of them. I can't get them to come up on the themes list.
[15:33] <usr13> No
[15:33] <dan2003> blazemore, intrestingly, there is this in alsa-base.conf
[15:33] <dan2003> # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
[15:33] <dan2003> options snd-usb-audio index=-2
[15:33] <dan2003> but it clealry doesnt work either
[15:33] <blazemore> Anaxandridas: Why doesn't the information in !themes work for you?
[15:33] <blazemore> !changethemes | Anaxandridas
[15:33] <OerHeks> Anaxandridas, did you try logout/login again?
[15:34] <Anaxandridas> OerHeks, yes. But even if that were it, I should still be able to download new ones from the list... But it won't download. I don't even know that the two things are related, but it seems an odd coincidence.
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, Cool. enjoy.
[15:38] <kadal> usr13: there is an error message when I typed in the terminal.
[15:38] <joshu> hi can I install the latest version of cmake binary http://www.cmake.org/files/v2.8/cmake-2.8.11.2-Linux-i386.sh on ubuntu 13.06 x64?
[15:38] <kadal> USR13: Shall I post the error message?
[15:38] <usr13> kadal: See my PM
[15:39] <usr13> (Not here, in the PM
[15:39] <kadal> PM?
[15:39] <usr13> Private Message
[15:39] <kadal> ok
[15:39] <usr13> kadal: I opened a PM for you.  Paste it there.
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> joshu  it's 13.04 and if it's newer than what's in the repos, it's not supported here
[15:40] <kadal> i am checking how to send pm
[15:41] <joshu> MonkeyDust typo…ok so only support here for what's in Ubuntu's repos?
[15:41] <usr13> kadal: I don't know what sort of IRC client you are using but there should already be another window with a channel labled  #kadal  Go to it and chat with me there.
[15:41] <kadal> xchat
[15:42] <usr13> kadal: Or just initiate a "Private Message" with me.  (I don't use xchat, maybe someone else can help you.)
[15:42] <kadal> that is better. i will join
[15:42] <usr13> Ok
[15:42] <clue_h> could type /query usr13 in xchat
[15:43] <usr13> clue_h: I don't use xchat so I don't know how to do it.
[15:47] <rypervenche> usr13: It is an IRC command, so it will work with any client.
[15:47] <blazemore> clue_h: You're running irssi and you don't know how to open a private message?
[15:48] <clue_h> no i was suggesting it to kadal
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> usr13: or  /msg username hi
[15:51] <bobi1024> hi
[15:51] <bobi1024> need some help
[15:51] <bobi1024> question
[15:52] <bobi1024> can I use with intel graphics the same feature as Nvidia - "Separate X Screens" ?
[15:53] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: tried the new sources. Same problem. It seems that any repo that is "I386" is moved temporarly
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, Maybe a mirror problem, you can change those, I'm not sure of the full details of your problem.
[15:54] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: i tried the german mirrors too and i have the same problem.
[15:55] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: ok.
[15:55] <blazemore> foubarre: Just to rule this out: you *are* running apt-get update between changing your sources.list right?
[15:55] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, So the basic premise is no upgrade offered from 12.10 to 13.04?
[15:55] <foubarre> blazemore: yep, sir
[15:56] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: blazemore moreover i saw the change of repos from fr to de when i changed the sources.list urls
[15:58] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: not sure what you meant. What i wanted to do is to upgrade to 13.04.
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, From what release?
[15:59] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: quantal. 12.10.
[15:59] <DJ_Beardsquirt> bobi1024: Sorry, fairly certain that feature is nvidia only. You might be able to set the primary monitor in xrandr with --primary if that's what you're trying to achieve
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, Heh, that was my question "from 12.10 to 13.04"
[16:00] <bobi1024> DJ_Beardsquirt: yeah I've thought so
[16:00] <bobi1024> because every post on the net says it is impossible
[16:00] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: oh. Mh sorry not very skilled in english
[16:00] <bobi1024> with nvidia was so easy
[16:01] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: you lost me with your "basic premise"
[16:01] <DJ_Beardsquirt> bobi1024: yeah, sorry i can't be of more help
[16:01] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, Something is up, that should be available if the software sources is set to all releases in the update manager. Don't worry english is my native and I barely speak it correctly, ;)
[16:02] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, Ah, I see basic premise, cool.
[16:03] <zimbo> which of these two courses do you think is better for learning about computer programming ABMA Level 4 Diploma Computer Engineering (http://abma.uk.com/computer-engineering/) or the The ACP Certificate in Information Technology & Programming (http://www.acpexamboard.com/professional_courses.htm)
[16:03] <zimbo> off topic, wrong room, apologies
[16:04] <foubarre> wilee-nilee: ok, how do i check that sources are "set to all releases"?
[16:04] <randomaussie> trying to install the boic this for seti at home... the one that came with the software centre is out of date... how do install from a .sh file?
[16:04] <randomaussie> oops ignore that
[16:04] <randomaussie> meant to hit backspace
[16:04] <randomaussie> already got it working
[16:06] <randomaussie> what i am trying to do is make my file browser window allow me to see and browse computers on my network.... it did it on a fresh oinstall before but it isnt now... am i missing a package
[16:06] <blazemore> randomaussie: Are you getting any kind of error?
[16:07] <randomaussie> no
[16:08] <randomaussie> blazemore: no i dont get an error.. and i can use "connect to server" and acces my windows box's shares... but i cant just browse them in "browse netwrk
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> foubarre, go to ubuntu software center-edit-software sources-updates-notify me of any ubuntu version-for any new versions
[16:10] <blazemore> randomaussie: try sudo apt-get install samba-common
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> then open the software updater and run a check
[16:10] <randomaussie> blazemore: tahnks will try
[16:11] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:11] <cristian_c> I've installed qt4-qtconfig
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> randomaussie: can you ping the server?
[16:11] <cristian_c> If I open the tool and I edit the font settings, clicking on File->Save, this string appears in the statusbar: 'Saved changes.'
[16:11] <cristian_c> but if I close and reopen the tool, there are not the new settings anymore
[16:12] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[16:12] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:12] <randomaussie> blazemore: i already have the lastest samba-common isntalled
[16:12] <blazemore> randomaussie: samba4-clients then, maybe
[16:12] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip: yes and i can "connect server" so its and access my shares
[16:13] <randomaussie> blazemore: installing
[16:16] <Troy^> Hello, I just installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop it has a GT 650m graphics card and a Intel HD 4000. Now I'm having trouble getting any sort of nvidia driver installed please help. Im currently looking at a screen 640x 480 thank you.
[16:18] <blazemore> Troy^: Are you getting any error when you try to install the drivers using the Additional Drivers built-in utility?
[16:18] <Troy^> well additional drivers has no drivers there
[16:18] <lampshade_> hi, i am having trouble partitioning a large disk with parted. i create a primary partition for boot, and then a handful of logical partitions. after setting up the LVM, parted print shows a bunch of 512b partitions
[16:18] <inad922> a
[16:19] <randomaussie> blazemore: installed... do i need to restart any processes or should it just work as i got an error this time of unable to mount location
[16:19] <Troy^> blazemore, also i tried installing nvidia-current well it just gived me an error you are not running nvidia x drivers when i open the nvidia-settings
[16:20] <blazemore> Troy^: You rebooted after installing them, yes?
[16:20] <Troy^> yup
[16:25] <inad922> inad922 aa
[16:25] <inad922> a
[16:25] <cristian_c> lol
[16:25] <inad922> could someone type a line with my nick in it please?
[16:26] <DJones> inad922: hELLO
[16:26] <inad922> DJones: Thanks, it works, I just wanted to test irssi's hilight fuction
[16:26] <inad922> :)
[16:26] <blazemore> inad922: ubottu will hilight you if you use a supported !command on it
[16:26] <DJones> inad922: Its Irssi, of course it works :)
[16:26] <walterwoj> Does anyone know about all movies playing in pink? (as in pink screen and sound)
[16:27] <blazemore> walterwoj: Do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[16:27] <blazemore> walterwoj: pink sound?
[16:27] <blazemore> 17:26:58          walterwoj: Does anyone know about all movies playing in pink? (as in pink screen and sound)
[16:27] <blazemore> Mistake sorry
[16:27] <walterwoj> Pink screen sound woks right.
[16:27] <walterwoj> yes just installed extras
[16:28] <blazemore> I actually can't help you as I have to go home
[16:28] <walterwoj> pointer?
[16:28] <blazemore> graphics drivers
[16:28] <blazemore> try a different media player (vlc)
[16:28] <blazemore> work out what the ones that don't work have in common
[16:28] <walterwoj> same thing on VLC and media player, many movie formats.
[16:30] <walterwoj> .avi, .wmv, m4k
[16:30] <walterwoj> alll bad
[16:30] <Wulleke> hello, i get error message that thermal sensor for required devices is not enabled when i try to install ubuntu, does a workaround exist for this problem?
[16:31] <leto1> You guys know how Ubuntu has a drag-to-left/right to maximize on half of the screen. Is there a way to make that a hotkey?
[16:32] <leto1> Meow meow meow!?
[16:32] <elementary> Hi all ! Looking for a skilled developer to assist me in various tasks and get paid of course
[16:32] <mJayk> leto1: Go to the keyboard menu and then the shortcuts tab
[16:33] <mJayk> Wulleke: what is the error messagE?
[16:34] <DJones> elementary: Thats not a topic for Ubuntu support, please find another channel to ask in
[16:35] <Wulleke> that thermal reporting is not enabled for required devices
[16:35] <mJayk> Wulleke: what devices what does it say exactly does it give you a hex code? does it let you continue ? need more info :) what stage of the install etc
[16:36] <Wulleke> seems to be a known error, with a solution, but forums are down so i cant get to the solution
[16:40] <Wulleke> i boot from usb devices, i briefly see keyboard icon on the bottem then screen goes blank, after a while i hear the knocking sound but thats all
[16:41] <mJayk> Wulleke: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Q9R6E-G7DScJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D1609309+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=ubuntu
[16:41] <napsc> Anyone else
[16:41] <mJayk> thats the google cache page of the ubuntu forums help thread on ur issiue
[16:41] <napsc> anyone else's syslog missing timestamps?  in the gui
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> Wulleke, Try f5 at the first gui then chose nomodeset.
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> choose*
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> Wulleke, What app did you load the usb?
[16:45] <napsc> i guess i should have said 13.04 unity system log gui
[16:48] <Wulleke> ok, the nomodeset seems to work, i did get the error but got past it
[16:48] <Wulleke> hope it is working, i report back soon
[16:48] <Wulleke> thank for the quick respons
[16:50] <documentationGuy> Hey quick question for all you gurus out there, what is the best way to check if a particular package is installed in Ubuntu desktop?
[16:53] <sicilia> xubuntu 12.04 AMD 64 boots to blank black screen,darn bugs
[16:54] <compdoc> sicilia, does your motherboard have an UEFI bios?
[16:54] <imdea> hi one question, i have a machine with some linux-image packages installed as well as a linux-server... I want to make space in my /boot partition but when i try to uninstall some linux-image files ubuntu tells me that it has dependencies problem with linux-server... is it safe to remove it?
[16:54] <documentationGuy> sicilia, are you dual booting?
[16:56] <sicilia> It's a Gigabyte board it's new been having troubles even with win7 freeze ups
[16:56] <sicilia> no dual boot
[16:56] <sicilia> plain xubuntu
[16:56] <documentationGuy> What boot loader are you using?
[16:57] <compdoc> sicilia, in the gigabytes boards Ive used, there's an option to set the video to 'legacy' mode to allow ubuntu to boot to a normal screen
[16:57] <sicilia> I'm so tech, I just ran the DVD I burned from Xubuntu website
[16:57] <randomaussie> hi all.. i had managed to install the nice pretty 3d gnome3.. and now when i try to log in with it i just get gnome classic? what did i do
[16:57] <sicilia> I'm not so tech
[16:57] <sicilia> oh ok
[16:58] <delac> problems getting icedtea-7 plugin to work with danskebank login. anyone has solution?
[16:58] <sicilia> I can google that then. thanks
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, What was your goal the gnome-shell?
[16:59] <Wulleke> installation succesfull, thx
[16:59] <napsc> documentationGuy: dpkg --get-selections | grep <progam>
[16:59] <documentationGuy> thanks napsc.
[17:00] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: yes it work after i installed it till i rebooted it
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, What was your install command?
[17:01] <MobGod> wilee-nilee can you look at this for me
[17:01] <MobGod> http://pastebin.com/XUqErjCq
[17:01] <imdea> anyone?
[17:02] <Troy^> Hello guys, I have installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop it has a 650m gt and a hd 4000 and nothing i do seems to install the nvidia drivers properly. Additonal Drivers window is empty. I'm just looking to setup my gt 650m and get dual display working.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, The gnome shell is the gnome 3 desktop, you would have had to at the least log out to get to it.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> MobGod, No, don't randomly ask people to help.
[17:02] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[17:03] <MobGod> wow wilee-nilee bad day today
[17:03] <MobGod> ok anyone care to look at this http://pastebin.com/XUqErjCq
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, That is not the shell install command do you know what the gnome-shell is?
[17:03] <randomaussie> wilee-nileeaparantly not
[17:03] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: aparantly not
[17:03] <imdea> when I try to remove an old kernel in my ubuntu 12.04 machine it tells me that it is going to remove also linux-server and linux-image-server. Is it safe to proceed?
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, So what is the final goal here?
[17:04] <DJones> MobGod: People generally don't look at random pastebins without a an explanation of the problem
[17:04] <bItc01d> hello
[17:04] <zimbo> does ubuntu hire developers or is all the programming done by volunteers?
[17:04] <MobGod> DJones trying to adduser
[17:04] <randomaussie> to get the propper gnome 3 runing instead of lightdm
[17:04] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: to get the propper gnome 3 runing instead of lightdm
[17:05] <DJones> MobGod: Well, explain your problem in the channel in detail, thats the best way of getting help
[17:05] <MobGod> DJones that is why i did the pastebin
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, gnome 3 underlies the unity desktop and is a shell the actual gnome 3 desktop and underlies the fallback.
[17:05] <MobGod> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[17:05] <MobGod> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[17:05] <MobGod> plus a couple extras
[17:06] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: i know unity if an off shoot of gnome.. but i want regular gnome
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, What is regular gnome?
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> gnome2?
[17:07] <Troy^> Hello guys, I have installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop it has a 650m gt and a hd 4000 and nothing i do seems to install the nvidia drivers properly. Additonal Drivers window is empty. I'm just looking to setup my gt 650m and get dual display working.
[17:08] <MobGod> DJones what do you think i can do for that first time i've seen it
[17:08] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: what ever i had runnig before the reboot... was ni nicer interface...
[17:08] <usr13> zomGreg: Both
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, Heh we are stuck in a circular info search, you will have to give details.
[17:09] <DJones> MobGod: I've never seen the command dduser used before, I've never used anything outide of he adduser command
[17:09] <usr13> sorry zomGreg That was ment for zimbo
[17:09] <root__> fala galera
[17:09] <root__> alguem do brasil
[17:09] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: well i installed gnome-shell and it gave me a nicer interface.. but its vanished... wheni log in using the gnome interface it just logs in with a clone of unity
[17:09] <MobGod> DJones lol thats what i mean adduser
[17:09] <Pici> !br | root__
[17:09] <DJones> !br | root__
[17:10] <root__> alguem ai do brasil
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, The shell should be just the gnome choice
[17:10] <usr13> zimbo: "Canonical works with the open-source community to deliver Ubuntu"
[17:11] <zimbo> usr13 how many full time, paid developers work for Canonical?
[17:11] <usr13>  ^^^^^^^^ so technically, you could say both.  500
[17:11] <zimbo> any idea?
[17:11] <zimbo> thanks for the answer
[17:11] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: well i dont know what else to tell you.. if i knew what i was doing i wouldnt be here....   all i know is it worked be fore and now it isnt :(
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> zimbo, This is support not information gathering.
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, Try the gnome option at the login.
[17:12] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: i'm using it and its a clone of unity
[17:12] <zimbo> wilee-nilee, oh so i broke a rule, didn't know, sorry
[17:12] <usr13> zimbo: "Canonical employs staff in more than 30 countries ... Canonical has more than 500 employees"
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, I'm not sure to be honest I use the shell, I just installed with sudo apt-get install gnome-shell  and choosegnome at the login.
[17:13] <zimbo> usr13 thanks for the info
[17:15] <zorin0s> hey guys, i need some urgent help. i installed maldet, ran a scan, and it says 1 threat detected, but i can't quarantine it
[17:15] <holstein> !info maldet
[17:16] <OerHeks> zorin0s, on zorin OS ?
[17:16] <zorin0s> yes OerHeks
[17:16] <root__> alguem ai fala portugues
[17:16] <usr13> zorin0s: http://www.rfxn.com/appdocs/README.maldetect
[17:17] <OerHeks> zorin0s, ah that is why we cannot find it.
[17:17] <genii> !br | root__
[17:18] <holstein> zorin0s: i would try a zorin support avenue for zorin OS
[17:18] <zorin0s> zorin is dead
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, Did you get your original command, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings" here, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[17:19] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: yes
[17:19] <holstein> zorin0s: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:20] <DJones> zorin0s: You'll need to be patient waiting for zorin support, its not a supported version of Ubuntu so we can't help in the #ubuntu* channels
[17:20] <Sockseven> Hi, can anyone help me? Has anyone encountered a msi gt-70 laptop, because it refuses to boot linux under uefi and i'm all out of suggestions?
[17:21] <holstein> Sockseven: you can always ask the creator of the UEFI for support.. i assume you have tried the wiki suggestions?
[17:21] <holstein> !uefi > Sockseven
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, You did not read that clearly, "You can simply install the "gnome-shell" package if GNOME Shell is all you want, but if you want the whole GNOME 3 desktop which includes the default applications as well as the default settings, use the command below" that is a either or statement, run sudo apt-get install gnome-shell.
[17:22] <Sockseven> oh yea. i've had a good old google. It's an odd problem, boot process jams at the ram disk.
[17:22] <holstein> Sockseven: if you purchased hardware that is not allowed to run OS's other than the one it comes with, you might have a challenge forcing that.. have you asked the manufacturer?
[17:23] <randomaussie> wilee-nile: i have already got that installed
[17:23] <Sockseven> i've not contacted them directly. thing is, it boots through legacy (bios) fine, so i installed it through grub bios and upgraded it to uefi.
[17:23] <usr13> holstein: Yes!  (We need to *complain*.)
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, Have you run the command sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[17:24] <Sockseven> i should also mention it wont boot any live cds or anything under uefi
[17:24] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: yes
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, Not sure then.
[17:24] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: just checked it again and says already have hte lastest version
[17:24] <holstein> Sockseven: the "legacy" setup is the way that allows you to use the hardware in a legacy mode, which is the 'not locked down' mode
[17:24] <holstein> Sockseven: i would run it in that way, if its an option
[17:25] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: :( i'll just put up with it for now
[17:25] <LovePuff>  18 F from Italy :) sellin' shows and pics :D Skype: ancuta.loredana
[17:25] <Sockseven> not really, windows 8 is running under uefi and i'd rather not piss it off, the fickle beast it is. ;-)
[17:25] <randomaussie> someone please kick lovepuff
[17:25] <raffy67> ciao
[17:25] <holstein> !language | Sockseven
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, You can have what you want, you just need the right helper. ;)
[17:25] <Sockseven> oh, sorry.
[17:25] <raffy67> #16 1.0G
[17:25] <raffy67> Iron.Man.Rise.Of.The.Technovore.2013.iTALiAN.AC3.DVDRip.GRD.PapeeteGroup.avi
[17:25] <raffy67> A-R-E-S ARES|DvD-NeWs
[17:25] <FloodBot1> raffy67: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: is there a list of desktop is can brower for gnome?
[17:26] <jpds> raffy67: Hello.
[17:26] <DJones> !piracy | raffy67
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, Can you restate that I don't understand.
[17:26] <zorin0s> randomaussie,  what are you doing up so early? 3:30am
[17:26] <Sockseven> and i know its not a "safeboot" problem, as thats turned off and grub uefi loads fine, its just the linux kernals/ramdisks that halt.
[17:27] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: doesnt matter i'll just keep trying to learn
[17:27] <OerHeks> !nounity | randomaussie
[17:27] <holstein> Sockseven: yeah? seems like i would say its the UEFI that, when disabled, allow the live CD's to boot that is the issue
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, Heh, thats all any of us can do, best of luck. ;)
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> mmmm uefi
[17:28] <randomaussie> ubottu: thanksd mate.. yes i'm using 12.04
[17:28] <Sockseven> well thats the thing, uefi booting runs windows fine, and loads grub fine, its just anything linux based wont boot, but with legacy grub is fine.
[17:29] <randomaussie> well thanks anyways ubottu:
[17:29] <holstein> Sockseven: AFAIK, because its not "signed".. and thats is the agreement you have with that hardware configuration
[17:29] <Sockseven> i thought that was only with secureboot on? which is turned off of course?
[17:29] <holstein> Sockseven: i dont have that hardware, so i would have to ask the manufacturer
[17:32] <Sockseven> well, i just find it odd that if i do the usual, recovery mode + no splash + verbose, etc then i can see it load the kernel, and then it stops at the ram disk. I guess my only option is to go to msi directly?
[17:32] <holstein> Sockseven: sounds like you can diable UEFI, and have access to the hardware
[17:33] <holstein> Sockseven: i can assure you, nothing about linux/ubuntu is preventing itself from running on your hardware
[17:36] <Sockseven> i just find it odd taht no distro of any type, linux or linux based recovery disk will boot past loading the ram disk. I guess my best bet is to convert windows to legacy then?
[17:37] <Sockseven> and boot using legacy only...
[17:37] <holstein> Sockseven: i thought that was the agreement.. and i know that is supposed to be the job of "secure boot".. but keep in mind, nothing about that product stated officially "run whatever OS you like"
[17:38] <Sockseven> well secure boot is disabled. thankfully the bios includes that option
[17:38] <holstein> we all know that UEFI can be problematic and i think its safe to assume that is the issue, since disabling it seems to make the issue go away
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> Sockseven, Unfortunatly even with holstein's great help there is a thread at the ubuntu forum on the multiple possibilities in this area, if you are till trying once back on it is here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:40] <A1Recon> My Google Chrome(Ubuntu 13.04) has become slow. Opening a new tab or closing one takes a lot of time... Does anyone know how to resolve this??
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Google chrome is not supported here.
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Is this ubuntu on the chrome I should have actually asked.
[17:41] <Sockseven> eh. well thanks for the help anyway. i think im just going to switch both oses back to legacy and be done with it.
[17:41] <Zyroo> Having many probs with google chrome lately with 13.04 language changing to chinese slow to connect so i am not the only one :P
[17:42] <usr13> Uninstall Google Chrome and it will no longer give you any problems :-)
[17:42] <A1Recon> wilee-nilee: Well I am running Ubuntu 13.04
[17:42] <Zyroo> usr13:already done :D
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Cool, it has a different kernel, but probably supported, my mistake.
[17:43] <Zyroo> A1Recon: are you getting automatic language change also?
[17:44] <A1Recon> Zyroo: Automatic Language change in what? Chrome?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> Zyroo, THe chrome OS is not supported here.
[17:46] <docGuy> So is the network manager package called networkmanager or network-manager?
[17:46] <craigbass1976> I've got /share  It's permissions are set to 777.  It's shared out via samba, with wide open permissions (so that windows users can get at stuff with no trouble)  and mounted to my /home/me via fstab.  THe smb.conf create mask is set to 777, but when I create something from the linux box it's 755, then I can't do anything to the file or directory because nobody:nogroup owns it.
[17:47] <Zyroo> A1Recon: yes man with 13.04 ubuntu my chrome always changes to chinese  wilee-nilee: no problem m just telling
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> Zyroo, Cool 13.04 just checking, it helps to know the actual OS.
[17:48] <craigbass1976> I don't want my default create mask to be 777, just for that share
[17:49] <Zyroo> wilee-nilee : Really i didnt even get time to enjoy 12 and in another morning its 13 what the hell this life cycle is too irritating
[17:50] <share> Do you where I can download the Ubuntu startup sound http://youtu.be/CQaEXZ-df6Y
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> Zyroo, You had to have run a upgrade, 12.04 has the longest support, and any releases above have basically newer apps is all.
[17:51] <Poisoned_Dragon> and newer kernels
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> newer app versions that is
[17:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> and newer kernels
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> Poisoned_Dragon, NO really.
[17:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, don't over simplify it. lol
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> Poisoned_Dragon, welcome to ignore
[17:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> thanks, it's great to be there
[17:53] <share> ?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> share, Why would you need to download it?
[17:53] <Zyroo> wilee-nilee : Yes  Its simple but why fast releases i dont get it I choose quality over quantity  :)
[17:53] <share> wilee-nilee: because im not using ubuntu
[17:53] <share> system-ready.ogg
[17:54] <holstein> share: you can always load up a live CD and find whatever you want..
[17:54] <docGuy> Hate to re ask a question, however, is the network manager package called networkmanager or network-manager?
[17:54] <share> unless someone shares the sound with me
[17:54] <share> :)
[17:54] <zorin0s> what is the command to uninstall a prgram
[17:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> i believe there is a hyphon
[17:54] <holstein> zorin0s: in ubuntu, there are many options. not sure about in zorin
[17:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> hyphen
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> zorin0s, sudo apt-get install "program"
[17:55] <zorin0s> wilee-nilee,  i said uninstall
[17:55] <bmoller>  how do i remove an dead menu icon that is already removed from synaptics
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> doh uninstall my bad
[17:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> zorin0s, sudo apt-get remove
[17:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> zorin0s, sudo apt-get purge, if you want to kill the config files too
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> usually remove or purge with apt-get
[17:55] <share> im gonna need to download the .iso justto get that sound ok bye
[17:56] <bmoller> purge?
[17:56] <holstein> zorin0s: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-delete-remove-software-using-apt-get-command/
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> bmoller, For another usr
[17:56] <holstein> share: have you searched the sources?
[17:56] <craigbass1976> docGuy, with a dash is what I restart when my network goes wonky
[17:57] <share> holstein: nope
[17:57] <share> how
[17:57] <zorin0s> Reading package lists... Done
[17:57] <zorin0s> Building dependency tree
[17:57] <zorin0s> Reading state information... Done
[17:57] <zorin0s> E: Unable to locate package maldet
[17:57] <mumpitze1> share: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=system-ready.ogg&mode=exactfilename&suite=raring&arch=any
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> zorin0s, Is this zorinOs?
[17:58] <genii> !info maldet
[17:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> what are you trying to install, zorin0s?
[17:58] <zorin0s> i have installed maldet, now i want to remove it
[17:58] <mumpitze1> zorin0s: we do not support zorin OS. please go to the proper channel for it
[17:59] <holstein> zorin0s: you will refer to the maldet documentation you used to install it.. also, this is not a zorin support channel
[17:59] <mumpitze1> woah: yes he is using zorin IOS19:25 < holstein> zorin0s: i would try a zorin support avenue for zorin OS 19:25 < zorin0s> zorin is dead
[17:59] <DJones> zorin0s: maldet isn't a default Ubuntu package, you need to contact the developer for any problems
[17:59] <share> mumpitze1: thanks http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-sounds/ubuntu-sounds_0.13.tar.gz
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> zorin0s,  try #ZorinOS
[17:59] <soman> ANy SEGA emulator which supports ROMs > 4 mb?
[18:00] <soman> I cannot play improved UMK3 in Ubuntu
[18:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> there were sega roms bigger than 4mb?! Also, wrong room for that
[18:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> you're off topic
[18:01] <soman> Poisoned_Dragon: why? Maybe some ubuntu users uses such. I tried kega fusion and it doesn't works with that rom. Rom is workable and works well under win.
[18:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> You're asking for app support in a distro support room
[18:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> there is an -offtopic room for ubuntu where your question is more appropriate.
[18:03] <soman> ok
[18:03] <DJones> Poisoned_Dragon: Why is it offtopic, there are Sega emulators in the ubuntu repositories
[18:03] <DJones> Poisoned_Dragon: So on that basis the initial question _is_ on topic
[18:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> Do you have intimate knowledge of those emulators capabilities?
[18:04] <bazhang> Poisoned_Dragon, its on topic
[18:04] <DJones> Poisoned_Dragon: I don't, but others in the channel may well have do
[18:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> meh. ok
[18:04] <DJones> !fud | Poisoned_Dragon
[18:04] <holstein> soman: i remember just searching a package manager and installing the emulators, and testing them... if there is one in particular that should be supporting the game/s you have, you can try the normal steps of launching from the terminal and looking for helpful errors
[18:04] <Pelayo> kega is not in the repositories, also wine is in the repos and it has its own support channel
[18:06] <filadome> hello, i have SSH access to a computer at college.  can someone help me run an executable?
[18:06] <holstein> filadome: not if you dont have permission on the machine
[18:06] <soman> holstein: thanks for direction
[18:07] <Pelayo> chmod +x filename
[18:07] <filadome> the OS is " Linux version 2.6.32-220.13.1.el6.x86_64 (mockbuild@sl6.fnal.gov) (gcc version 4.4.6 20110731 (Red Hat 4.4.6-3) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Tue Apr 17 15:16:22 CDT 2012"
[18:07] <Pelayo> and then ./filename
[18:07] <Pelayo> if you are allowed to run it, that will work
[18:07] <filadome> thanks Pelayo, I forgot about the ./ prefix
[18:08] <Pici> filadome: Also, that looks like redhat, you're asking in #ubuntu
[18:08] <DJones> Pelayo: That says Red Hat, not Ubuntu, is it running on a virtual server?
[18:08] <holstein> filadome: you can always use the entire path
[18:08] <Pelayo> it's not me, it's filadome
[18:08] <filadome> i believe so, it's the server the students use for programs
[18:08] <filadome> unfortunately i'm getting dependency errors
[18:09] <holstein> filadome: the issue is, redhat is not ubuntu, so we can support you with your issues
[18:09] <filadome> GLIBC_2.13 not found
[18:09] <filadome> ok, i'll try to find a redhat irc
[18:09] <Pelayo> then you should ask the administrators to install the libraries you need or do a static build
[18:09] <holstein> filadome: the dependency errors would be resolved by having permission to install them, and you dont have that
[18:09] <irssi-mike> filadome: or centos, same thing
[18:09] <Pelayo> but static builds aren't usually a good idea
[18:10] <filadome> linux is too much of a rube goldberg machine, i think i'll just move to Windows on AFS
[18:10] <mare> anyone there?
[18:10] <zipy> with or without u in count? :P
[18:10] <Pelayo> I see 1603 users
[18:11] <mare> does anyone here know anything about ubuntu?
[18:11] <brma> filadome: ouch...  That's like the complete opposite of my opinion
[18:11] <holstein> filadome: the issues you are having are because you dont have permission on the server.. that will be the case with any OS
[18:11] <holstein> !ubuntu > mare
[18:11] <mare> where would I find the private message?
[18:11] <zipy> !ubuntu zipy
[18:11] <zipy> :D
[18:12] <zipy> lol
[18:12] <DJones> !botabuse > zipy
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> the pinhead is in the house
[18:12] <zipy> DJones, i just was curious what the bot says
[18:12] <joshu> how can I troubleshoot why cmake settings I supply on the command line such as –DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/test are not applied
[18:13] <DJones> zipy: Use /msg ubottu yourinfohere for things like that, it saves filling the channel up with un-needed comments
[18:13] <mare> I'm looking for something that shows a little of what ubuntu does, what it looks like, and how to install it.
[18:13] <zipy> ye but i didnt know that
[18:13] <holstein> !install > mare
[18:13] <mare> ubottu: where is your private message?
[18:14] <zipy> ubottu, is a bot
[18:14] <holstein> mare: you can run the live CD on your hardware, and see it in action without changing your hardware setup or config
[18:14] <holstein> mare: you can see youtube videos and/or screenshots easily as well
[18:14] <mare> the live CD????
[18:14] <mare> how about if I look on the internet?
[18:14] <holstein> !install | mare
[18:14] <zipy> yes you can download a live cd and put it on usb or burn it on cd and boot from it
[18:16] <yalex> hello how do I set samba shares to be r+w+x for users and groups and no permissions for world?
[18:17] <Estrobeda> hello i dont think this is the right place to ask this but i will try any way. I have saved money to build a pc.
[18:17] <krywk> I'm in need of help regarding an SDHC and formatting.
[18:17] <mare> I looked on youtube but got a guy talking for 45 minutes about what a mess the program is
[18:17] <holstein> krywk: i use gparted to format.. you can use it from a liveCD
[18:18] <holstein> mare: try it live.. and see for yourself..
[18:18] <Estrobeda> -> and i wanted to ask if there is a place to ask if the hardware is good at running ubuntu "i dont understand the hardware support list"
[18:18] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, anyone know how I can change the screen timeout settings (when it blanks the display) in Ubuntu 13.10?
[18:18] <mare> is there no link to a site that lets you see what it looks like?
[18:18] <holstein> Estrobeda: there are resellers such as system76 that sell hardware with ubuntu and ubuntu support
[18:18] <brma> yalex: chmod 770 (r/w/x for ownser & group, no perms for everyone)  add the -r flag if you want it to chmod recursively
[18:18] <holstein> mare: plenty
[18:18] <mare> and how do you download it from the internet?
[18:18] <DJones> !13.10 | DreamPCs
[18:18] <Estrobeda> holstein: ok thx
[18:18] <randomaussie> Any one have experiance with hte Seti@home BOINC client?
[18:18] <krywk> This is what happens: 1. Have an SD full of things. 2. Unmount SD. 3. Format SD to FAT32 (erases everything). 4. Mount SD.
[18:19] <krywk> The files are still there.
[18:19] <yalex> thanks brma I  did that but what mask should i use in smbd.conf?
[18:19] <krywk> And they keep appearing and appearing again
[18:19] <holstein> mare: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/take-the-tour
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> mare, everyone has opinions, however valid in their own personal reality and world view bubble.
[18:19] <zipy> mare, www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop here u can download the desktop version and installation instructions
[18:19] <QTPieMan> !openjdk
[18:19] <DreamPCs> Thanks DJones
[18:20] <holstein> Estrobeda: even if you just refer to the sites of the resellers for hardware suggestions.. i usually try and run a live CD on the hardware first hand.. or search by known components
[18:20] <krywk> Anyone?
[18:20] <QTPieMan> !mark
[18:20] <brma> yalex: not sure.  Sorry
[18:20] <holstein> Estrobeda: its near impossible to have a known good suppported list, since hardware revisions can change at any time
[18:20] <mare> FABULOUS!!! EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!! Why do they not put THAT on the homepage?????????????????????????????///
[18:20] <cuddylier> Is there a way to monitor traffic when my server box is getting DDOSed and get the IPs DDOSing me? Also, if the IPs are spoofed is there anyway I can get the real IP?
[18:21]  * wilee-nilee turns down his hearing aid.
[18:21] <holstein> krywk: i would do a more complete wipe and format.. boot and nuke or whatever
[18:21] <zipy> krywk, r u talking about an sd card or ssd hard drive?
[18:21] <randomaussie> if i have software that i cna install from the software center that isnt uptodate how can i go about finding the install location so i can manualy update it
[18:21] <Estrobeda> ok
[18:21] <krywk> SDHC Card.
[18:21] <krywk> holstein: How do I nuke the SD card?
[18:21] <mumpitze1> cuddylier: you can get the IPs, no you obviously can't determine the real IPs from spoofed ones
[18:21] <holstein> krywk: boot and nuke was actually the suggestion.. let me get a link for you
[18:22] <mare> ubuntu is not the same as linux then?
[18:22] <mare> So I will avoid Linux I guess?
[18:22] <holstein> krywk: for example http://www.dban.org/
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> krywk, You ave the read only switch on?
[18:22] <zipy> !linux | mare
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> linux is a kernel ubuntu is based on linux mare
[18:22] <holstein> mare: linux is a kernel that ubuntu uses
[18:22] <krywk> wilee-nilee, no.
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu is a full OS
[18:22] <holstein> mare: ubuntu is a linux OS
[18:22] <cuddylier> mumpitzel What about if I know the spoofed IPs, can I determine the real source IP from them?
[18:23] <mare> So do I have to get both linux and ubuntu then?
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> krywk, Strange gparted should wipe it.
[18:23] <holstein> mare: ubuntu *includes* linux
[18:23] <zipy> its already included
[18:23] <mumpitze1> mare: no. linux is part of ubuntu
[18:23] <mare> so I can just get ubuntu?
[18:23] <krywk> wilee-nilee, sadly it doesn't.
[18:23] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: what type of DDOS attack is it? you may be able to look at the subnets and determine where the spoofed ips are coming from
[18:23] <holstein> mare: you can do what you like.. ubuntu is an operating system... it uses the linux kernel
[18:23] <bazhang> mare, did you actually read any of the links?
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> but you probably wont do well getting the actual source ip's - your concern should be more so preventing it - and determing how exactly they are doing it so you can patch it in the future
[18:24] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy Would I be able to determinate anything more than the location or would I be able to get specifically where?
[18:24] <mumpitze1> krywk: what is the device name /dev/... for the SDHC card?
[18:24] <zipy> krywk, sudo wipe -r /pathtoyoursdcard
[18:24] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy I think they are TCP attacks
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: it depends - for instance if they are all associated to a AN number you may be able to look up more details on who owns it or the block
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> that would only get you to whos systems are being *abused* to accomplish the attack though
[18:24] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy Ah okay
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> but it could help -
[18:24] <mare> but ubuntu will not work unless I get linux as well?
[18:25] <bazhang> mare, please stop
[18:25] <Pelayo> mare: linux is a kernel, the core of the system, and there are lots of distributions using it: Ubuntu, Mint, Red Hat, SuSe...
[18:25] <mare> can I use open office with ubuntu?
[18:25] <zipy> if u get ubuntu u got linux already
[18:25] <bazhang> mare, please read the links
[18:25] <krywk> mumpitze1, /dev/sde
[18:25] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy Is there any easy way to get the IPs if I have a fair amount of network traffic?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> mare, IN the simplest answer linux is the kernel
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: yes sort them with netstat
[18:25] <krywk> zipy, sudo: wipe: command not found
[18:25] <holstein> mare: libreoffice..and yes, you can use whatever you like with ubuntu, which again, *includes* the linux kernel
[18:25] <l3d> was wondering if there is a way to pick witch monitor is the main screen/ I have a laptop connected to a lcd tv hdmi which I would like to make the main screen and a lcd 19inch monitor I would like as extra screen to do terminal stuff in. But as it is now they are backwards 19inch is the main.
[18:25] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy What would I search for though?
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: insert knowing a little about the attack -
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> mare, and lol read the links as suggested
[18:26] <zipy> krywk, k then u have to install wipe first with sudo apt-get install wipe
[18:26] <mare> holstein: libreoffice, but not openoffice?
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: if you know that its a dns flood - you may want to look at where the dns "replies" are coming from
[18:26] <Pelayo> mare, both are available anywhere...
[18:26] <holstein> mare: if you want to run the older version, you can..
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> hence packets with src of 53 or such cuddylier
[18:26] <mumpitze1> krywk: sudo if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde bs=512 count 100. this will overwrite your SDCH partition table and the first 100 sectors. it will "wipe" the SDHC guaranteed. you will want to create a new partition table and partitions with "sudo fdisl /dev/sde" then and afterwards format it with whatever mkfs you want
[18:26] <mare> holstein: okay, and I download just ubuntu then?
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: and adjust that based on the attack port - if you can get that info..
[18:26] <holstein> mare: thats what is suggested
[18:27] <mumpitze1> krywk: but be very very very careful that it actually is the SDHC card. mine always use something like /dev/mmblk0 or similar
[18:27] <zipy> mare, libreoffice is the new name of old openoffice. open office was bought by oracle
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> and now apahce
[18:27] <holstein> mare: if you want to use ubuntu, you'll need to obtain it, and downloading is arguably the easiest way
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> apache
[18:27] <mumpitze1> zipy: openoffice is still the name of openoffice
[18:27] <zipy> oracle gave it to apache
[18:27] <mare> holstein: is there a version of adobe acrobat pro that can be used on it? openacrobat pro or something? or a list of software that works with it?
[18:27] <Pelayo> yep, and openoffice just released version 4.0
[18:28] <holstein> mare: nothing about linux/ubuntu is preventing adobe from providing you whatever appliation that is
[18:28] <holstein> mare: can you open pdf files in ubuntu? yes
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> mare: they have PDF creation software - i am not sure if acrobat works - there may be ways to install it via wine assuming its supported -
[18:28] <krywk> mumpitze1, sudo: count: command not found
[18:28] <Pelayo> or create and export them from libreoffice
[18:28] <holstein> mare: *all* of this can be tested from the live CD..
[18:28] <DJones> mare: zipy: Actually, Libreoffice was forked to create Openoffice, Oracle bought LIbreOffice
[18:29] <mare> Holstein: more than opening, I need to edit and combine them and switch them back and forth between word and pdf. maybe a software list would help
[18:29] <mumpitze1> krywk: sorry. sudo if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde bs=512 count=100   forgot a "="
[18:29] <holstein> mare: as suggested, that can be done in libreoffice, and from the live CD
[18:29] <mare> what is a liveCD?
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> a way to test a OS without installing it mare
[18:29] <IdleOne> mare: Time to read the links ubottu provided
[18:29] <mare> and how will I use it on my computer that has no CD drive?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> enablers
[18:30] <Pelayo> mare, usb drive
[18:30] <Nisstyre-laptop> Er, question: is  there a reason the www-data user has a real shell? (/bin/sh on this system), and is it fine to change it to /bin/false? I assume it doesn't need a shell for anything...
[18:30] <mumpitze1> mare: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[18:30] <DJones> mare: You can use a USB stick
[18:30] <krywk> mumpitze1, comes up with the 'sudo' usage manpage
[18:30] <Nisstyre-laptop> It seems rather insecure after all
[18:30] <craigbass1976> I've got /share  It's permissions are set to 777.  It's shared out via samba, with wide open permissions (so that windows users can get at stuff with no trouble)  and mounted to my /home/me via fstab.  THe smb.conf create mask is set to 777, but when I create something from the linux box it's 755, then I can't do anything to the file or directory because nobody:nogroup owns it. I don't want my default create mask to be 777, jus
[18:30] <craigbass1976> t for that share
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> you could also boot it from grub assuming it were available on /boot somewhere
[18:30] <zipy> krywk, but make sure u put in the right path in of=... since it will overwrite any partition u put in there
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> @live cd's
[18:30] <mumpitze1> krywk: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde bs=512 count=100
[18:31] <mumpitze1> Nisstyre-laptop: might be needed for cgi?
[18:31] <Nisstyre-laptop> mumpitze1: would php-fpm require it? I doubt it
[18:31] <mumpitze1> Nisstyre-laptop: I don't know
[18:31] <Nisstyre-laptop> besides, that runs under a different user
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> you should be able to set it to bin false
[18:31] <Nisstyre-laptop> I'm going to
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> if your app breaks then set it back
[18:33] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: interesting - my www-data user defaults /bin/sh also
[18:33] <SolarisBoy> wow - and i just switched to him...
[18:33] <mare> If I have a computer that runs really badly with windows, will installing ubuntu make any difference? or will it just make is run both in both systems?
[18:34] <mare> oops, badly with both systems
[18:34] <mumpitze1> craigbass1976: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch08.html  read about "creation masks" there. it's a setting for the samba share you can use
[18:34] <mutante> can i PermitRootLogin in sshd from one interface (localhost) but not permit it from other interface (eth0) without running 2 separate sshds?
[18:34] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: it seems like a security hole tbh
[18:34] <holstein> mare: depends.. ubuntu will not fix or reconcile broken hardware, if that is what is making windows perform badly
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> mare pretty open ended question - probably need to know why it performs bad
[18:34] <Nisstyre-laptop> shouldn't be the default
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: no question about that
[18:34] <mumpitze1> mare: depends. if it's an old computer with a small amount of RAM you should use something like Lubuntu
[18:34] <cruisemaniac> Hello folks! can you please help me with postfix + dovecot + squirrelmail on ubuntu 12.10. This is my first time around. I'm not seeing a protocol imap section in the dovecot.conf file
[18:35] <mare> depends on definition of old. it is 2 years old. and yes small amount of ram
[18:35] <holstein> mare: using a live CD is a great diagnostic tool, since it bypassed the installed OS, and the hard drive, and includes tools for testing the memory and the hard drive
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> i wonder whos fault it is - the www-data probably gets created in post/pre install of some webserver/service and likely gets setup insecurely there
[18:35] <krywk> mumpitze1, what do I do in fdisk?
[18:35] <mare> that's the computer with no cd drive, but I see something about flashdrive option
[18:35] <mumpitze1> krywk: you create new partitions. the old ones on the SDHC card are all gone
[18:35] <holstein> mare: using a live CD will literally harm nothing, and answer most, if not all of your questions.. it was one of the first things i suggested to you, and i still suggest it
[18:36] <mumpitze1> mare: please tell us what CPU, what videocard andhow much RAM it has please?
[18:36] <holstein> mare: and, as was stated, and guides linked, you can use the live CD via USB stick
[18:36] <mare> okay, so just need to figure out how to get a hold of this live cd thing
[18:36] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: yeah, I'd have to dig through the setup scripts
[18:36] <holstein> !install | mare
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: do you run nginx?
[18:36] <QTPieMan> !x
[18:36] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: yes
[18:36] <mare> where do I find cpu, videocard info?
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: i think we have a culprit
[18:36] <Pici> !botabuse | QTPieMan
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> <--doesnt use apache and thats the only thing i can think to have put that user there in this laptops short life
[18:37] <mare> toshiba NB505-N508BL
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> edit: Nisstyre-laptop nginx from default repo or some PPA? mines from a PPA and it's all starting to make more sense...
[18:38] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: default repo
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> blah =(
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> thats kinda crappy i never noticed that huge flaw..
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: good eyes sir/mam
[18:38] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: yeah I don't even know why I was looking
[18:39] <Nisstyre-laptop> I just noticed it and went wtf
[18:39] <QTPieMan> Pici, ok
[18:39] <SolarisBoy> +1
[18:39] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: I might see if I can reproduce it in a fresh vm install or something
[18:40] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, i think nginx is a bit slow
[18:40] <Nisstyre-laptop> QTPieMan: you have to tune it a bit
[18:40] <Nisstyre-laptop> it can handle large numbers of connections quite well
[18:40] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, whats prob with apache2?
[18:41] <Nisstyre-laptop> QTPieMan: nginx is just more to my taste, I'm not a fan of apache's concurrency model
[18:41] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, oh ok
[18:42] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, also lightttpd is good
[18:42] <Nisstyre-laptop> QTPieMan: sure
[18:42] <Nisstyre-laptop> there are probably other good ones too
[18:43] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, r u running ubuntu server?
[18:43] <Nisstyre-laptop> QTPieMan: yes, it's running on a linode
[18:43] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, oh cool
[18:44] <QTPieMan> why hexchat is not in software centre?
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> QTPieMan, Its in a ppa
[18:45] <QTPieMan> wilee-nilee, ok
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> QTPieMan, Load the PPA run a update and you will see it there.
[18:46] <QTPieMan> wilee-nilee, hmm
[18:46] <QTPieMan> wilee-nilee, i know all of that
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> QTPieMan, Good for you, however I don't unless you say so.
[18:46] <krywk> mumpitze1: Calling ioctl() to reread the partition table. WARNING: reread of the partition table faild with error 22 invalid argument
[18:46] <QTPieMan> wilee-nilee, thats true, thanx btw
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[18:47] <krywk> failed*
[18:47] <mumpitze1> krywk: reboot. can happen when you rewrite the partition table. or at least remove the SD card and then plug it back in. that might reset the kernel tables too
[18:47] <krywk> mumpitze1, already tried with unplug/plug, still the same, gonna try with reboot
[18:48] <mare> does anyone know of a list of software that works with ubuntu?
[18:48] <share> how to restart gnome3 from console?
[18:48] <SolarisBoy> share: gnome3 isn't really a daemon - you probably want to restart your display manager
[18:48] <mare> and finally, and most importantly, is it similar to windows in that nothing ever works, and when it is working, it does an automatic update which makes something that used to work not work anymore?
[18:48] <share> SolarisBoy: i tried
[18:48] <SolarisBoy> how?
[18:49] <share> systemctl restart gdm.service
[18:49] <QTPieMan> anybody using cinnamon de?
[18:49] <SolarisBoy> thats not an ubuntu command is it?
[18:49] <SolarisBoy> looks like arch
[18:49] <share> SolarisBoy: no :) yes
[18:49] <mumpitze1> mare: here is a big list http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/
[18:49] <share> bye
[18:50] <mumpitze1> SolarisBoy: he ran away pretty fast :)
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> lol yeppers
[18:51] <SolarisBoy> mare https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ListOfOpenSourcePrograms
[18:51] <SolarisBoy> your asking with all your questions - there are thousands of applications, some are direct ports, some implement functionalities, you really need to just boot the Live CD and explore
[18:51] <SolarisBoy> and keep google on your side
[18:51] <mare> hmm, unfortunately nothing in the list looks like a doc or pdf type file creator
[18:52] <SolarisBoy> yea well you need to use google there
[18:52] <SolarisBoy> it's out of scope for every single application or thing oen person would want to be listed there in detail
[18:52] <QTPieMan> Poisoned_Dragon, hello :P
[18:52] <SolarisBoy> you would get further on an ubuntu system typing "pdf" in a search box for software center than asking everyone here.
[18:52] <mare> thanks solaris, i see it in your list
[18:52] <SolarisBoy> trust me,
[18:53] <DJones> mare: You asked about openoffice and libreoffice eariler, they are doc creators, Ubuntu will let you save any document as a pdf
[18:53] <bazhang> !info acroread partner | mare
[18:53] <mare> oops, except the pdf creator link doesn't work :(
[18:53] <SolarisBoy> ...
[18:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> hi QTPieMan
[18:54] <holstein> mare: i use libreoffice to create pdf's
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu AFAIK has PDF libraries included somehow because "Print to PDF" seems to be an option on most if not all default installs as of recent
[18:54] <DJones> mare: File, Export as PDF, thats it
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> and then there are _tons_ literally tons of PDF manipulation apps
[18:55] <holstein> all of which can be tested from the live CD (via usb stick)
[18:55] <SolarisBoy> &then yes like everyone else stated libre/open office work with PDF file
[18:55] <craigbass1976> mumpitze1, create and directory masks were both at 777 already.  I tried the inherit permissions = yes, but that didn't help.  Directories get created with 775.  My fstab line is //192.168.2.107/moulton-files   /home/moultonr/share   cifs   guest,_netdev   0 0
[18:55] <ix_> does anyone know a mirror for ports.ubuntu.com ?
[18:56] <mumpitze1> craigbass1976: it's not the fstab line but the share in smb.conf
[18:58] <mare> what do you use to combine several word and pdfs into one pdf?
[18:59] <holstein> mare: i dont use word documents..
[18:59] <mare> i use adobe acrobat pro
[18:59] <holstein> mare: nothing is preventing adobe from releasing acrobat pro for linux
[18:59] <mare> nice, but where do I find it?
[18:59] <holstein> mare: what you want to do can be done from linux.. but its not the "same" as windows
[18:59] <holstein> mare: find what?
[18:59] <ix_> mare: you could just export the documents to pdf, I'm very sure there are programs to merge pdf's
[18:59] <mare> adobe acrobat pro for linux that you say adobe is going to release
[19:00] <holstein> mare: i did *not* say that
[19:00] <mare> yes, adobe acrobat pro combines them. what is the open source version?
[19:00] <holstein> mare: i said, they are welcome to release a linux version.. but AFAIK, they do not
[19:00] <yalex> Hello how can i set the default permissions for new files to include write for groups, ACLs don't appear to be working
[19:00] <holstein> mare: if acrobat pro use is a "deal breaker", then you can look into using it in wine
[19:01] <mare> using it in wine? what does that mean?
[19:01] <holstein> mare: otherwise, i have no trouble creating pdf's as mentioned above.. in libreoffice, or with print to pdf.. both of which can be tested, free of charge, from a live CD
[19:01] <Kitt3n> mare, install Wine then just install the Windows adobe pdf thing
[19:01] <holstein> !wine
[19:01] <ix_> mare: I see you can merge pdf's online too, you might try that
[19:02] <holstein> mare: wine is a way you can try to run the *exact* application you want from windows in linux
[19:03] <yalex> new files are only being create user rw and group r i'm using a cifs mount
[19:04] <DJones> mare: If you need Windows app's that won't run under wine, you should use Windows to get the best results, Ubuntu is an alternative operating system, but isn't suitable for everybodies needs
[19:05] <Kitt3n> It can totally be
[19:05] <mare> does ubuntu constantly stop working and make you want to throw your computer at the wall like windows?
[19:05] <Kitt3n> ^
[19:05] <holstein> mare: anyone is capable of misuing and misconfiguring *any* os
[19:06] <Kitt3n> Not Apple's,that's too locked down to do anything
[19:06] <mare> does that mean yes? automatic downloads that you can't stop from happening that then make your software not work?
[19:06] <holstein> mare: it means, you are welcome to manage the operating system as you wish
[19:06] <mare> cause if it is just as hateful as windows, there's no point in doing it
[19:07] <mare> i was hoping it would be more like apple in the sense that all the software always works together on the machine
[19:07] <holstein> mare: computers can be frustratin
[19:07] <holstein> mare: "hope" doesnt really apply here. only education and good practices
[19:10] <hispeed1> has somone time to support me: i'm on my synology station via ssh and i'm using vi for editing a file. I have added the lines in the config and i left the change modus with: esc then i entered: :w
[19:10] <hispeed1> is now everything saved?
[19:10] <ikonia> hispeed1: if you didn't get an error, yes
[19:10] <ikonia> hispeed1: what is synology ?
[19:10] <mumpitze1> ikonia: a proprietary NAS that doesn't run ubuntu
[19:10] <ikonia> ...great....
[19:10] <mumpitze1> but is linux based
[19:10] <holstein> hispeed1: http://www.synology.com/support/knowledge_base.php?lang=us is where i would go
[19:11] <hispeed1> ;=) yes I know it's not ubuntu based but as he said it's linux based
[19:11] <ikonia> this isn't a linux channel
[19:11] <ikonia> it's an ubuntu channel
[19:11] <hispeed1> holstein thanks I know that link ;)
[19:11] <ikonia> hispeed1: I suggest reading what holstein and not asking again please.
[19:12] <mumpitze1> hispeed1: then use it in the future instead of coming here. or go to ##linux
[19:12] <holstein> hispeed1: otherwise, the manpages in ubuntu for vi might be what you are looking for
[19:13] <hispeed1> ok message arrived
[19:16] <yalex> hello, using ACLs to force permissions for a samba share and it is working for a windows user but not a linux user, where new files do not have the write permission set
[19:25] <ars23>  /join #manjaro
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> evening to all
[19:26] <zastaph> Kernel 3.11 has proper power management for older ATI cards, which I depend on for my dell. My 13.04 is at kernel 3.8. How long do you think it takes for 3.11 to find its way into Ubuntu? or maybe I should just upgrade it manually?
[19:26] <lonewulf85> Hey if I have to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 and I have a seperate partition for /home would it erease my data on the /home partition?
[19:29] <dacs> howdy folks
[19:29] <bazhang> lonewulf85, you can direct the installer to leave it alone,
[19:31] <lonewulf85> dazhang, Yes I did that and when it got to the part asking for my personal information the encrypted box was already checked and I could not uncheck it. I had chosen to encrypt with my first install, would this emply that it recignised the /home and is not going to change it?
[19:33] <dacs> so i was here earlier this morning, complaining about my 13.04 being very laggy when i am running Desktop
[19:33] <doomlord> is there/ can anyone recomend a grep gui tool, preferably with a minimal ui (trigger a search, not much visible in its window other than the search results)
[19:34] <dacs> any application i open take a bit then start showing at the desktop faded and comes focused slowly
[19:34] <ikonia> doomlord: you can't need a gui for frep
[19:34] <je384> greetings programs
[19:34] <ikonia> dacs: you need to find out if that is system performance or video drawing performance
[19:34] <mare> hmm, just noted the flashstick instructions are like 10 pages long.  can't just copy to disk and then click????
[19:34] <lonewulf85> -Poisoned_Dragon-, Right I did that and where it would not allow me to uncheck the encrypt home folder that means that all is well right? I do have most of it backed up just incase but not having to replace the files would be great.
[19:34] <ikonia> mare: read the instructions, as it depends
[19:34] <mumpitze1> doomlord: https://www.google.de/search?q=graphical+grep  directly points to http://sourceforge.net/projects/grepgui/
[19:35] <ikonia> mare: if it was that simple or didn't have catches it would be a one line instruction.
[19:35] <dacs> ikonia: how will i do that, i just installed a fresh copy of 13.04 before i was running 10.10 and it was working flawlessly
[19:35] <mare> Creating a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive
[19:35] <mare> From Ubuntu
[19:35] <mare> Install and run usb-creator
[19:35] <mare> You can find usb-creator-gtk in the Unity Dash by typing "Startup Disk Creator" (Ubuntu Desktop) or usb-creator-kde in K-Menu-->Applications-->System-->Startup Disk Creator (Kubuntu). If it is not there, then you can install it using the Synaptic Package Manager or Ubuntu Software Center
[19:35] <mare> Insert and mount the USB drive. Inserting the USB drive should auto-mount it.
[19:35] <FloodBot1> mare: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <ikonia> mare: you don't need to post it in here - we can read the wiki
[19:35] <ikonia> dacs: 10.10 isn't the best to compare with as a lot has changed
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> 3+ years of updates and changes. :)
[19:37] <Wha|e> hi
[19:37] <dacs> Dr_Willis: lol i know
[19:38] <reisio> hi Wha|e
[19:40] <lonewulf85> -Poisoned_Dragon-, Cool after the install is finished I will look and make sure everything is where it should be.
[19:41] <dacs> so its not that great , but still shouldn't act that slow
[19:41] <ikonia> dacs: what video card do you have ?
[19:42] <hastings> Hello! I've just installed ubuntu, and I'm having trouble setting up wireless.
, What WiFi card?
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> hastings: can you tell us what chipset?
[19:42] <hastings> I'm using a Lenovo T431s
[19:42] <ikonia> hastings: just explain the problem you are having
[19:42] <ikonia> hastings: we can't help until you give us information of what's not working as you expect
[19:43] <dacs> ikonia: Advanced Micro Device [AMD] nee ATI ES1000 (rev 02)
[19:43] <ikonia> dacs: how much ram do you have in your machine
[19:43] <blazemore> !wireless | hastings Have you looked here
[19:43] <dacs> ikonia: 2.0 GB
[19:43] <ikonia> why don't we find out hastings problem before throwing random information at him
[19:44] <ikonia> dacs: ok, so you should get some acceptble response out of that
[19:44] <hastings> when I run lshw -C network it doesn't show a wireless device, just an ethernet device and a network manager
[19:44] <hastings> http://askubuntu.com/questions/295027/lenovo-t431s-and-and-wireless-dont-play-nicely
[19:44] <ikonia> dacs: the first thing I'd look at is either a.) making sure your video card is configured correctly or b.) confirming if the poor performance is down to the system or video card
[19:44] <hastings> this suggested I download a patch, but the patch refused to install
[19:45] <dacs> ikonia: can you please help on how to do a) & b) :)
[19:45] <Visievion> pip
[19:46] <Visievion> err ww.
[19:46] <ikonia> dacs: the easy way is to open a terminal, mess around in it, if it responds "ok" once the terminal is open, it's a fair guess to assume the machine is ok, and it's video response.
[19:46] <ikonia> dacs: do something like "ls -lR" in /
[19:46] <ikonia> dacs: make sure it responds "ok"
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> hastings: does your machine boot wifi from bios?
[19:46] <dacs> that is what is happing , once the terminal load it processes everything fast
[19:47] <ikonia> hastings: I'm sat here on a T430s - what wireless card is actually in your T431
[19:47] <ikonia> hastings: I'd expect an intel card in that laptop
[19:47] <hastings> lotuspsyche: It's dual boot, and wifi works fine in the windows 8 operating system. is that the question you are asking?
[19:48] <OerHeks> i have seen issues win8/fastboot and wifi not usable in ubuntu.
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> hastings: well im asking because some w7 or w8 machines need 'network boot' set to ON in bios to run properly with ubuntu...not sure if its your case
[19:48] <dacs> ikonia: about half a sec resresh rate from the above command
[19:48] <ikonia> dacs: are you happy with that ?
 ikonia: about half a sec resresh rate from the above command
 dacs: are you happy with that ?
[19:48] <hastings> * elementary (~elementar@164.215.19.98) has joined #ubuntu
[19:49] <dacs> yeah
[19:49] <elementary> Hi, where's the scientiest I was talking for elementary - trisquel before with ?
[19:49] <ikonia> elementary: not in this channel
[19:49] <reisio> elementary: was it in this channel? With what nick/s?
[19:49] <elementary> It was in this channel :)
[19:49] <elementary> I don't remember the nick unfortunately, client crashed and haven't noted it haha
[19:49] <ikonia> elementary: this channels for ubuntu, so please don't go looking for discussion in this channel
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> !alis | elementary
[19:50] <elementary> The distros I am talking about are based on ubuntu, I am not doing anything against ubuntu or off topic
[19:50] <reisio> elementary: and you don't log?
[19:50] <ikonia> elementary: they are not ubuntu though
[19:50] <ikonia> elementary: and you don't show as being in this channel in the last 24 hours
[19:50] <elementary> I was before 1 hour
[19:50] <reisio> elementary: using the nick 'elementary'?
[19:50] <ikonia> dacs: I'd check the amd/ati modules and how compatible they are with your card
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> !logs | elementary
[19:50] <elementary> Ok he talked to me :) Thanks
[19:50] <DJones> elementary: You were posting spam earlier today
[19:51] <elementary> I was not posting Spam, I never spam
[19:51] <hastings> my wireless card is "03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24)
[19:51] <hastings> 	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 5260
[19:51] <hastings> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
[19:51] <hastings> 	Memory at f0c00000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
[19:51] <hastings> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[19:51] <hastings> "
[19:51] <FloodBot1> hastings: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <reisio> when you get the answer you want, hang up
[19:51] <DJones> 17:32 < elementary> Hi all ! Looking for a skilled developer to assist me in various tasks and get paid of course
[19:51] <DJones> elementary: That is spam
[19:51] <hastings> sorry will use pastebin next time
[19:51] <elementary> It's not spam, it's offering job when the unemployment rate is huge
[19:51] <elementary> You live in another planet ?
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> elementary:  it is spam for this channel.
[19:52] <bazhang> !ot | elementary
[19:52] <ikonia> hastings: can you put "lspci" in a pastebin please.
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> hastings: try the intel sublink from what blazemore pasted you
[19:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> lspci | grep Ethernet would be cleaner
[19:53] <TheDracle> So, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04. I commonly use SlickEdit for Code editing, and for some reason the Window Decorations on it constantly disappear, and reappear rapidly.
[19:53] <ikonia> no, I'd just like to see the output please.
[19:53] <TheDracle> Other windows seem unaffected. Is there something different with the Window Decoration plugin in 13.04?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  run it from a terminal, look for error messages. is that the ONLY app that has the issue?
[19:53] <TheDracle> Dr_Willis, Yes.
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  is that a java app or anyother way unusual?
[19:54] <hastings> Here is the whole lspci: http://pastebin.com/3NqWLjPS
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> !info slickedit
[19:54] <TheDracle> Dr_Willis, It's a C application, I think it uses WxWidgets underneath.
[19:54] <ikonia> hastings: I didn't ask for "lspci -v"
[19:54] <ikonia> hastings: I asked for "lspci"
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  ive never seen just the windows decoration 'crash' on a single app. since they are handled by the window manager.  What desktop ae you using?
[19:55] <TheDracle> What desktop? You mean GTK/Unity?
[19:55] <ikonia> hastings: ok, so the good news is there is a device with a matching pci id for your wireless card
[19:55] <ronk> just tried gnome-shell. I can see why Canonical made Unity :P
[19:55] <TheDracle> I'm using the standard in 13.04.
[19:55] <TheDracle> And Unity3D
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  where did you get slickedit from?
[19:56] <TheDracle> Downloaded it from the Application providers website, it's not a standard repository application.
[19:56] <TheDracle> It's a commercial IDE.
[19:56] <ikonia> probably a gtk2 app with a non-exisant theme now
[19:56] <hastings> sorry: here is the lspci, not lspci -v http://pastebin.com/7dG8nC29
[19:56] <ikonia> hastings: doesn't matter now, I can see the wireless card
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  id check their support  forums and see if others have a similer issue. running it from a terminal may give a clue as to the issue. it may be as ikonia  says.
[19:56] <ikonia> hastings: can you now pastebin the output of "iwconfig" please
[19:58] <hastings> here are the results of iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/yh4rsYXH
[19:59] <ikonia> hastings: ok, so there is an issue there
[19:59] <ikonia> hastings: let me have a look for some information on that specific card
[19:59] <hastings> Thank you for your help, by the way!
[20:00] <ikonia> hastings: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[20:00] <ikonia> actually, just show me uname -a
[20:00] <ikonia> lets see what kernel you're running
[20:00] <ikonia> that's the more important bit
[20:00] <OerHeks> sounds like wireless N issue with this card http://askubuntu.com/questions/282449/wireless-with-intel-centrino-advanced-n-6235
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> got me a new usb video capture dongle that actually works in linux/ubuntu (totally plug and play!) now trying to track down a simple app to capture video for a set amount of time, so i can just click record and click play on the vcr, come back an hr later and it will be done with the capture.  Anyone care to make a reccomendation?
[20:01] <hastings> here is the result of uname -a: http://pastebin.com/6np9QwuG
[20:01] <ikonia> OerHeks: looks a good find
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | Dr_Willis
[20:02] <ikonia> hastings: check out OerHeks's link, I'm having a little look around at that card
[20:02] <hastings> okay!
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> well im not really captureing a 'screen capture' but video direct from the usb encoder. :) i will check that out. it may do both. under windows it seemed most of their screen capture apps would not also capture from the usb device. (guess it would be a 'webcam capture' app then.
[20:04] <OerHeks> hastings, some router do have an option to select your MAC adress and keep the B/G mode selected, that is the other workaround
[20:04] <dacs> ikonia: i am lost
[20:04] <anonymous_> We are anonymoys
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> whois anonymous_
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[20:04] <ikonia> anonymous_: not really, how can we help you ?
[20:04] <dacs> i saw in the forum the ES1000 is not longer supported by linux
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: zoneminder maybe?
[20:04] <ikonia> dacs: is that your card ?
[20:04] <anonymous_> idk whats up
[20:05] <ikonia> anonymous_: this channel is for ubuntu support/discussion,
[20:05] <dacs> ikonia: yes
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> kazam seeme neat however. :) for some of my other tasks.
[20:05] <ikonia> dacs: that's not good then if it's lost support
[20:05] <h00k> anonymous_: offtopic discussion can happen in #ubuntu-offtopic, if it's not support related
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: kazam is very nice and clean recordings :p
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> kazam only does screen capture  it seems.
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> unless im missing some settings (exploreing it now)
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> I believe it's only screen capture
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> i never managed to make kazam record sound
[20:07] <hastings> ikonia: I tried to follow the link's advice, but when I ran "sudo rmmod iwlwifi" it returned "Error: Module iwlwifi is not currently loaded"
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> I know vlc can do it. :) and most likely ffmpeg, or mencoder directly can. i just want somthing rather simple i can set up for the wife. shes going to pop in a VCR tape for 'transfer' hit play on the vcr. and record on the app. (basically) and hopefully it wont record 12+ hrs of static whenthe tape is done. ;)
[20:07] <holstein> Dr_Willis: vlc, kdenlive, avidemux
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> avidemux dosent capture from the video device that i can tell. it was first thing i tried.
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: neither do it, but the video quality and size are fantastic dont they
[20:08] <holstein> Dr_Willis: im not sure you'll find an open source solution with high "spouse approval"
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> !info zoneminder
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> guvcview might be able to record from a usb capture device
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> Heh - 'cheese' can capture the video! ;) but lets see if it has a timer feature
[20:09] <holstein> cheese would be the easiest.. but i found the audio got out of sync quickly
[20:10] <dacs> ikonia: ubuntu forum say to use radeon open source driver
[20:10] <ikonia> dacs: I do'nt think it does, as ubuntu forums are down
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> time for a test capture in cheese
[20:11] <dacs> ikonia: i know its down , but you still can use it , thats what i did
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Cheese is not previewing the audio for me in its capture. or when just showing the video capture preview.
[20:11] <holstein> dacs: so, you are using the driver that the forums suggest? the open one? that works 'out of the box' ?
[20:11] <Gheyboy_Advance> I'm gay
[20:11] <dacs> ikonia: in g00gle you just have to choose chaced version of the site
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Gheyboy_Advance
[20:12] <dacs> Gheyboy_Advance: if thats your way , that is okay !!!! lol
[20:12] <ikonia> dacs: do you mean "google" ?
[20:12] <dacs> ikonia: no i am not using it yet, i was consulting with you
[20:12] <dacs> ikonia: yes sire
[20:13] <dacs> ikonia: opps i typed 00 lol
[20:13] <dacs> a bit of rum will make you do that
[20:13] <dacs> :S ..apologies @ ikonia
[20:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> Dr_Willis, try guvcview
[20:14] <dacs> holstein: not understanding your question ...sorry
[20:14] <holstein> dacs: you say the forums suggest the open driver, is that what you are using?
[20:15]  * dacs btw i have to kvm between this windows and my other box to get the info so excuse any delay please
[20:15] <dacs> holstein: i have no clue which driver i am using , this is a fresh install as i mentioned earlier
[20:16] <holstein> dacs: the open driver is what would be running, out of the box, on a fresh install, assuming you havent made any changes
[20:16] <dacs> 'lsmod or what should i use to inform me
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> Poisoned_Dragon:  heh - that one seems to core dump.
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> well seg faults
[20:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> ouch
[20:16] <dacs> holstein: how can i tell please
[20:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> I wonder why
[20:17] <holstein> dacs: as i said, if you didnt change it, thats what it is.. you can run "lspci -vv" in a terminal to confirm
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> Poisoned_Dragon:  ;)  scand and dosent find stuff..  init v4l2 failed.  but it was working in other apps.
[20:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> how odd
[20:17] <hastings> I'm thinking I need to install iwlwifi (intel wireless drivers) but http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi mentioned changing the firmware. Will that stop windows from using the wireless?
[20:17] <ihre> dacs, lspci -nn | grep vga?
[20:18] <ihre> or rather, grep VGA
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> hastings: what you change on ubuntu wont affect your windows
[20:18] <holstein> hastings: intel should be supported by default.. windows is a dual boot with linux? of so, linux will use it when booted, and windows will use it when booted
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> hastings: did you try what Oerheks pasted you?
[20:19] <dacs> ihre: Advanced Micro Device [AMD] nee ATI ES1000 (rev 02)
[20:19] <dacs> ihre: hi there!
[20:19] <jayman> hi guys, I'm trying to use my desktop that has an ENCORE electronics tv card to play with my ps3 because my TV died, I'm using the RCA cables for that but for the life of me I can't get any sound and the video comes out funny(like if it was on PAL/NTSC or viceversa) anyone has any clues of what I can do?
[20:20] <holstein> jayman: to "play with my ps3" ?
[20:20] <jayman> holstein, Playstation 3
[20:20] <hastings> I do not have access to change router settings
[20:20] <holstein> jayman: sure.. what does that mean?
[20:20] <dacs> ihre: what it looks like, it turns out it was a bad idea to switch from 10.10 to 13.04
[20:20] <holstein> jayman: you are tring to get a video card to accept an analog video/audio signal?
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> !10.10
[20:20] <ihre> how come, dacs?
[20:21] <jayman> holstein, a TV card, not a graphics card
[20:21] <dacs> ihre: it turns out the my ATI ES1000 is not supported anymore by linux
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> could alwyas test out the latest LTS if the latest has issues.
[20:22] <holstein> dacs: i would test 12.04 as Dr_Willis suggests
[20:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> Dr_Willis, can you use uvcdynctrl to access your device?
[20:22] <holstein> dacs: test it live
[20:22] <dacs> ihre: my desktop is lagging so bad
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> hastings: scroll few lines above that, the url about wireless N
[20:22] <holstein> dacs: also, you have not tried the proprietary driver AFAIK
[20:22] <holstein> dacs: you can also use something like xubuntu/xfce which might be "better" for that hardware, not requiring 3d, as unity does
[20:22] <dacs> holstein:how would i try that please
[20:23] <hastings> Lotus: I looked at that, when I tried the command it said that iwilwifi wasn't loaded
[20:23] <hastings> ikonia: I tried to follow the link's advice, but when I ran "sudo rmmod iwlwifi" it returned "Error: Module iwlwifi is not currently loaded"
[20:23] <jayman> I got the video working with mplayer so far, but it looks funny, I can't get the sound to work
[20:23] <holstein> dacs: i would download xubuntu 12.04 and try it live.. or refer to
[20:23] <holstein> !ati | dacs
[20:24] <dacs> when i start my box it say kubuntu
[20:24] <holstein> dacs: kde, or ubuntu both are heavy on the graphics, for older hardware
[20:24] <holstein> kde or unity*
[20:25] <ihre> dacs, have you tried the proprietary driver? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[20:26] <dacs> so i logged out and chose xbuntu and logged back in and it shows xfce and it is running nice
[20:26] <dacs> hmmm
[20:27] <holstein> dacs: xfce requires no 3d acceleration, which, in unity/kde could be helped with the driver folks keep mentioning
[20:27] <holstein> or, you can just use xfce
[20:28] <ihre> I'm reading the ATI ES1000 doesnt support 3d acceleration, so that might explain your problems, dacs
[20:28] <holstein> and, it likely *never* did.... you probably just used gnome2 in 10.10
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> hastings: how about you try to boot a previous kernel from grub?
[20:32] <hastings> I'm new to linux, do you mean download an older version, put it on a usb and boot from the usb?
[20:32] <doomlord> is there an option to keep the menu visible - bbenefit is you can see the entry to aim for benefit ,    and less flickering
[20:33] <dacs> xfce it is then
[20:34] <dacs> thank you all for helping me
[20:34] <dacs> i really appreciate it
[20:35] <occ> i have a aspire s7 ultrabook with ubuntustudio, every half an hour or so it will crash and i wont be able to move the mouse -touchpad or wired mouse.... is this a common issue?
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> doomlord:  not that ive ever noticed. You wouldent see the windows title then. - so its a trade off.
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> doomlord:  askubuntu.com may have some tweaks on it however
[20:42] <doomlord> window title - if i've got many windows open, they have their own titles. If its maximized, there would be space for both the title and the menu (if the title really was too long, eg a long pathname,i'd be happy to truncate)
[20:43] <doomlord> option would be nice :)
[20:44] <reisio> smallfoot-: get some bigger feet!
[20:44] <reisio> smallfoot-: was it something you said? :p
[20:45] <smallfoot-> lol
[20:45] <smallfoot-> look at me, i got klined!!
[20:45] <reisio> hahah
[20:45] <reisio> ah, bored netops
[20:45] <smallfoot-> double klined!!
[20:45] <smallfoot-> that guy is a jerk
[20:45] <reisio> triple triple!
[20:45] <smallfoot-> noooooo
[20:45] <smallfoot-> but ye probably lol
[20:46] <reisio> why ban someone when you can just boot them over and over like a retard :p
[20:46] <smallfoot-> i said i luv black dick, and a white op banned me and klined me
[20:46] <reisio> oh, this is not the channel I thought it was...
[20:46] <Anaxandridas> Hi, guys, easy question. How do I get a folder, or a document, on to the panel in Ubuntu? They don't seem to have an option for "add to panel" in their menu. Click dragging doesn't seem to work.
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> Anaxandridas:  you could add an item to the 'quick lists' right click menu on the file manager icon perhaps.
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> I thought there used to be a default list there.. but im not seeing one now.
[20:49] <poz> hi for some reason my internet is not working
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> http://www.maketecheasier.com/easily-create-quicklist-for-ubuntu-unity-launcher/2011/06/06
[20:49] <poz> i am connected to my network and i can connect to irc
[20:50] <Anaxandridas> poz, it seems your internet is working just fine... And Dr_Willis, thank you.
[20:50] <poz> but i can not browse anything
[20:50] <reisio> Anaxandridas: right click on a thing, IIRC
[20:50] <willuser9> how do i get my computer out of grub rescue
[20:50] <danny1> Looking for a C ++ coder
[20:51] <poz> i am wondering if anyone can help me trouble shoot this error
[20:51] <Anaxandridas> reisio,  I can assure you I rightclick everything, when in doubt ;) Dr_Willis, it appears that that solution doesn't work for Cinnamon 1,4, but it was a very good solution, thank you :D
[20:52] <reisio> oh right you're using cinnamon
[20:52] <sirspazzolot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916090/ here's my boot info. any ideas why windows is booting to a black screen? /dev/sdb is my primary device and grub2 is my bootloader; ignore all legacy grub and partitions on /dev/sda. worth noting: start of paste says windows 8 installed stuff to the mbr of /dev/sda. could this be my problem?
[20:52] <reisio> thought the point of cinnamon was to be like GNOME 2... i.e. right clicking
[20:53] <danny1> Where can I find a C ++ coder ?
[20:54] <pirate> @routed you suck
[20:54] <sgrong> sirspazzolot, can you confirm that you're not using GPT?
[20:54] <toto_> hello
[20:54] <danny1> toto you are a c ++ coder ?
[20:54] <toto_> Python coder
[20:55] <danny1> Hit me on PM
[20:55] <toto_> Wut?
[20:55] <danny1> Let's talk for the JOB PM
[20:55] <sirspazzolot> sgrong: I am on BIOS/MBR
[20:55] <sirspazzolot> both drives are MBR
[20:56] <occ> every half hour, ubuntu studio crashes on my aspire s7 and i cant move the mouse
[20:56] <occ> what is the likley cause of this
[20:57] <toto__> yo all
[20:57] <toto_> Yooo
[20:57] <Anaxandridas> reisio, all the PROGRAMS do that. Folders and documents don't.
[20:57] <reisio> occ: graphics or power saving
[20:57] <reisio> or both
[20:57]  * toto__ say 'bonjour' to everyone ^
[20:57] <Anaxandridas> You're right--that would be much easier. I can't seem to find a quick way to open any document, which is strange.
[20:57] <reisio> Anaxandridas: sounds like they have more work to do, then
[20:58] <reisio> Anaxandridas: you should be able to add a .desktop file link in there or something
[20:58] <reisio> Anaxandridas: what's on your panel right now?
[20:58] <occ> reisio, so how should i go about trying to fix it? i disabled all power saving stuff (set monitor to never sleep etc)
[20:59] <sirspazzolot> sgrong: any ideas?
[20:59] <tutubuntu> fuck
[21:00] <Anaxandridas> reisio, FF/Chrome, software center, terminal, and home folder--it treats the home folder like an app, not like a folder.
[21:00] <Anaxandridas> I do not know how to do the .desktop file link.
[21:00] <sirspazzolot> wait I just did it
[21:00] <sirspazzolot> bahaha
[21:01] <sirspazzolot> yeah, it was because of the mbr stuff on /dev/sda
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: run um...
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: egrep -ilr firefox ~/
[21:01] <sgrong> sirspazzolot: not really... when you say that windows is booting to a black screen, you mean you can't even reach the windows boot options?
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: from a terminal
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: it might give you an example .desktop file for your Firefox item
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: which you can copy and replace the executable of... with nautilus path/of/choice or something
[21:02] <sirspazzolot> sgrong: messing around with some of the partitions in the grub entry would yield different options... one was a 'failed boot try recovering' thing so I figured it was a partition specification thing. and it turns out this was correct, I just point stuff to look at /dev/sda for bios
[21:02] <sirspazzolot> it boots
[21:02] <occ> anyone installed ubuntu on an aspire s3?
[21:03] <Anaxandridas> It gave me a whole bunch of crazy stuff that isn't making  much sense... It mentions gdesklets, which I've already removed, even. Hmmm. Guess this isn't going to be easy. That's too bad, I found something Ubuntu DOES fail at.
[21:03] <occ> im thinking of getting one. ubuntu runs badly on my aspire s7, i heard it works well on the s3... but i want confirmation before i waste more money
[21:03] <poz> does anyone know how to change my dns server?
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> Anaxandridas:  the dash has a recently used docs feature i thought.  Im not clear on what you are trying to do exactly
[21:03] <poz> or fix it*
[21:03] <sirspazzolot> occ I ran ubuntu on my aspire from like six years ago
[21:04] <sirspazzolot> aspire 5735z
[21:04] <sirspazzolot> B)
[21:04] <occ> i see
[21:04] <Slart> poz: there is a file called /etc/resolv.conf that manages that.. that file might be overwritten by a dhcp-client as well so sometimes just editing might not be enough
[21:04] <Anaxandridas> Dr_Willis, I am simply trying to put a document on the panel, with all the apps. It does not offer "put on panel" in the menu for the document. Or for folders. Just for apps.
[21:04] <occ> and sirspaz you had no problems?
[21:04] <occ> like crashes or anything
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> Anaxandridas:  you could make a link to it into your ~/Desktop file i guess. ive never needed a file so much that i would put it in the panel. If i used the file enough, it would be the #1 (or near th top) of the Dash  list of files.
[21:05] <poz> what is a namesever?
[21:05] <reisio> server of names
[21:05] <poz> nameserver*
[21:06] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_server
[21:07] <poz> i can not go to that becuase my internet is not working
[21:07] <Anaxandridas> Yes, dragging it on to the desktop is always an option--an option that I'm using right now. But I was really keen on getting it on the panel. Dr_Willis.
[21:07] <poz> i am thinking it could be about a dns problem
[21:07] <Anaxandridas> Poz, restart your computer :P
[21:07] <mdh> !restart
[21:07] <poz> lol
[21:07] <poz> but i just turned it on...
[21:07] <Anaxandridas> So restart it.
[21:08] <Anaxandridas> If it's on, it's not restarting. If YOU'RE on, YOU'RE not restarting. So restart it.
[21:08] <Slart> poz: a name server is the computer that translates www.google.com to it's ip-address.. something like 111.222.333.444
[21:08] <poz> will try thought. just want to ask first, if i change my nameserver from 127.0.1.1 to 8.8.8.8 will that mess anything up?
[21:08] <poz> though*
[21:08] <Slart> poz: it shouldn't.. in a normal network setup
[21:08] <poz> okay. then i will restart now
[21:09] <k3pl3r16> poz leave the ip 127.0.01 thats your local machine address and yes it can mess things up
[21:10] <jayman> hi guys, I'm trying to use my desktop that has an ENCORE electronics tv card to play with my ps3 because my TV died, I'm using the RCA cables for that but for the life of me I can't get any sound and the video comes out funny(like if it was on PAL/NTSC or viceversa) anyone has any clues of what I can do?
[21:11] <poz> hi, so i am back. same problem, restarting never fixed
[21:13] <Anaxandridas> Have you tried smashing the computer?
[21:13] <Slart> poz: ok, what was the problem you are trying to fix?
[21:13] <poz>  i think it is a dns problem
[21:14] <poz> i can not view any webpages
[21:14] <k3pl3r16> poz cn you ping them?
[21:14] <poz> but if i type in the ##.##.##.## thing, it works
[21:14] <reisio> Anaxandridas: :p
[21:14] <poz> no, pinging does not seem to work
[21:15] <k3pl3r16> do you get a reply back at all or just destination host unreachable
[21:15] <poz> "Destination Port Unreachable"
[21:15] <k3pl3r16> ok
[21:15] <k3pl3r16> are you using network manager?
[21:15] <poz> i dont think so
[21:15] <k3pl3r16> what desktop are you using?
[21:15] <poz> ubuntu 13.04
[21:15] <Slart> poz: ping www.google.com   doesn't work, I assume? but  ping 173.194.113.147    works?
[21:16] <k3pl3r16> so atthe top in the right hand corner do you see 2 arrows or a symbol like a wave
[21:16] <poz> no, ping 173.194.113.147 fails too
[21:17] <poz> the wave symbol
[21:17] <Slart> poz: huh.. that just one of googles servers.. odd
[21:17] <ka1vgm> poz: I have had my ISP's dns' fail for a period of time. Also had the same when they changed some settings and needed to reboot my DSL modem for it to start working again.
[21:17] <Slart> poz: does ping 8.8.8.8 work?
[21:18] <poz> no
[21:18] <k3pl3r16> ok if try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143819/how-do-i-configure-my-static-dns-in-interfaces
[21:18] <poz> hummm, maybe it is a modem thing, i have not tryed restarting it yet
[21:18] <k3pl3r16> use the one that is the third answer down this will be easiest I think
[21:18] <poz> cant see that. it does not work
[21:18] <poz> lol if it worked then I would not have a problem
[21:19] <Anaxandridas> Poz, see, I told you to restart everything :P
[21:19] <poz> I cant restart the modem though. i am using it on my other computer
[21:19] <Anaxandridas> Step 1: Restart everything. Step 2: Reinstall everything. Simple :D
[21:19] <poz> reinstalling takes hours though
[21:19] <ka1vgm> poz: after you restart modem wait 5 minutes and restart router (if  separate) and then your pc.
[21:19] <k3pl3r16> poz can you ping the modem??
[21:21] <poz> pinging the modem does not seem to work, but i forget what I set the ip or what ever at
[21:21] <poz> the router and modem are the same thing
[21:22] <k3pl3r16> poz on th other comouter it should give you the default gateway this is the modem ip
[21:22] <k3pl3r16> pos try pinging that
[21:22] <ihre> poz, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:22] <ihre> should have the address of a nameserver
[21:23] <poz> yeah, pinging 127.0.1.1 works
[21:24] <bekks> That will always work.
[21:24] <ihre> thats localhost, that should always work ^_^
[21:24] <poz> lol
[21:24] <poz> well, i can always come back in a few hours after I can reset the router...
[21:25] <poz> its just weird that xchat (irc) works but nothing else
[21:26] <Anaxandridas> I figured out the solution, anyone want to know what it was?
[21:27] <poz> what?
[21:29] <malgorath> I installed Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on a laptop with 2 hard drives. I can boot into the ubuntu hard drive fine but I am unable to boot the windows 8 from Grub 2, is there a wiki or guide on how to fix this? I have tried some googling but nothing I have found seemed to work.
[21:29] <poz> what happends when you try to boot into windows?
[21:30] <malgorath> grub errors on the boot. then I have to CTRL+ALT+DELETE to restart it
[21:30] <reisio> malgorath: pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:30] <malgorath> reisio, okay give me one
[21:31] <reisio> malgorath: install and use pastebinit
[21:31] <EricFisker> hey guys, are there any Kubuntu users here?
[21:31] <reisio> it should have a default
[21:31] <reisio> EricFisker: undoubtedly
[21:31] <malgorath> lol reisio just did :D
[21:32] <EricFisker> because I just discovered something awesome with KDE effects.
[21:32] <reisio> EricFisker: yeah?
[21:32] <malgorath> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916302/
[21:32] <EricFisker> go into desktop effects
[21:32] <EricFisker> check "Wobbly Windows"
[21:32] <launch> 1
[21:32] <EricFisker> and edit the settings by checking "Advanced Mode"
[21:32] <reisio> malgorath: now when you're trying to boot windows 8, you're trying the one that DOES NOT say 'recovery', right?
[21:32] <EricFisker> and then set the settings as follows:
[21:32] <malgorath> reisio, correct
[21:32] <EricFisker> stiffness: 38
[21:33] <EricFisker> drag: 100
[21:33] <EricFisker> move factor: 16
[21:33] <EricFisker> it gives you a really cool effect.
[21:34] <malgorath> reisio, if you want I can reboot and use my ipad to snap a pic of the error
[21:35] <reisio> EricFisker: so you have windows 8 and ubuntu and no other OSes?
[21:35] <reisio> oops wrong person
[21:35] <reisio> malgorath: ^
[21:35] <reisio> EricFisker: youtube
[21:35] <malgorath> reisio, correct just the 2, I have 2 500g HDDs and windows is on the primary, and ubuntu is on the secondary
[21:36] <EricFisker> wait, reisio, how did you know?
[21:36] <reisio> EricFisker: know what?
[21:36] <EricFisker> oh.
[21:36] <EricFisker> about the Windows and Linux thing.
[21:36] <EricFisker> I just read "oops wrong person"
[21:36] <reisio> malgorath: k
[21:36] <joshlegs> anybody on the alpha 13.10 release?
[21:37] <Slart> joshlegs: try in #ubuntu+1
[21:37] <joshlegs> ah thanks Slart
[21:37] <czesmir> malgorath: remove the windows
[21:37] <malgorath> czesmir, not possible right now
[21:38] <reisio> ericab: you get any particular error?
[21:39] <jhutchins> malgorath: Is it looking for secureboot?
[21:39] <jhutchins> malgorath: Describe the error.
[21:39] <malgorath> i'll reboot requickly and get a picture of the error
[21:40] <reisio> what the
[21:40] <jhutchins> malgorath: Describe the error.
[21:42] <malgorath> error: can't find command 'drivemap'. error: invalid EFI file path.
[21:42] <jhutchins> malgorath: You don't suppose there's an error with the uEFI file do you?
[21:43] <malgorath> jhutchins, was working fine before I installed ubuntu
[21:43] <genial2> Greetings. I've run into a little issue here and need some advice: I'm running 5 ubuntu servers on an ESXi-machine, one of them is a pure NFS-machine serving my harddrives to all the other instances. One of them is a Plex server, serving media to my various devices. Now I've noticed that sometimes the CPU-usage on the NFS-machine will skyrocket for short amounts of time, usually in unison with the Plex-machine. I'm wondering what this ...
[21:43] <genial2> ... could be a result of. Obviously Plex is requesting something that the NFS-box has a hard time loading, but it should only be a single media-file. Is harddrive-corruption/error a possibility here?
[21:43] <jhutchins> malgorath: Not sure how you did the grub install, grub _can_ cope with EFI just fine, but some people switch to BIOS mode, which won't work if Windows is expecting EFI.
[21:44] <jhutchins> malgorath: You may need to restore windows to get it back, look for windows documentation on how to repair the EFI.
[21:44] <jhutchins> malgorath: If you restore Windows, it will probably wipe out ubuntu, so you'll need to re-install, but read up on dealing with EFI and dual booting W8 first.
[21:45] <reisio> malgorath: try specifying the efi file path as at http://askubuntu.com/questions/211339/windows-8-wont-boot-after-installation-of-12-10
[21:45] <jhutchins> reisio: Good find.
[21:46] <reisio> well the find was easy :p
[21:46] <reisio> I just don't trust grub's auto cfg maker
[21:46] <reisio> it may well say the same thing after explicitly specifying the .efi path
[21:46] <jhutchins> malgorath: Linux has been working with EFI since at least '07, but we're finding new ways to break it with Windows.
[21:46] <reisio> but then you'd know for sure it isn't there
[21:48] <Streusel> 3 flood bots? O.o
[21:48] <Streusel> no ubuntu edge ad?
[21:49] <holstein> Sockseven: you might prefer the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.. this is the official support channel
[21:49] <holstein> Streusel: ^^
[21:50] <genial2> Are there any tools that will let me monitor the nfs-kernel-server to see what could be eating up the CPU for short periods of time?
[21:50] <jhutchins> genial2: top
[21:52] <tlopez> need to get a live ubuntu usb stick
[21:52] <tlopez> on ntfs filesystem
[21:53] <tlopez> what program to use
[21:53] <malgorath> okay here goes a reboot :D
[21:53] <holstein> tlopez: on fat32.. unetbootin
[21:54] <tlopez> need to use ntds for 12GB persistence
[21:54] <tlopez> alternativily need a program that can have 12GB persistance on FAT32
[21:54] <holstein> tlopez: when i want persistence, i just do a normal install... you can always create multiple partitions
[21:54] <holstein> tlopez: i would refer to any pendrive linux suggestion
[21:56] <litzo> hi
[22:02] <varunendra> tlopez, you can create a 700+ MB FAT32 for Live installation, and a 12GB ext3 partition for persistence.
[22:02] <bbonora> I'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu server  from 10.05 to 12.04. when I run do-release-upgrade I get a message that says "Proxy '/' looks invalid" and then it says "no new release found"
[22:02] <bbonora> anybody know how to solve this?
[22:02] <bbonora> *10.04
[22:03] <usr13> bbonora: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:03] <Jlluis> holaa
[22:03] <bbonora> usr13: I did that
[22:03] <bbonora> that seems to work fine
[22:04] <varunendra> bbonora, are you using a proxy server in Synaptic's settings?
[22:05] <bbonora> varunendra: not sure? how would I figure that out?
[22:05] <zymogens> Have just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS. It says I have a 143 packages that can be updated. Anyone know the command to do that?
[22:05] <varunendra> bbonora, in Synaptic Package manager, Preferences > Network
[22:05] <bbonora> I feel like I need to change my sources.list file. I'm just not sure what to change them to
[22:05] <holstein> zymogens: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:05] <zymogens> thanks a mil.
[22:06] <holstein> bbonora: you shouldnt need to
[22:06] <bbonora> varunendra: I'm all command line
[22:06] <varunendra> bbonora, no idea how to check or change it then.
[22:06] <Malgorath> looks like I can't boot the repair partition either. so I just lost all my windows :-/
[22:07] <bbonora> holstein: I couldn't get the system to update. I changed "maverick" to "lucid" and it updated. Not sure if the two are related.
[22:07] <holstein> Malgorath: you can restore the windows boot loader
[22:07] <usr13> bbonora: Now-days, that is done *for* you.
[22:08] <varunendra> bbonora, can you give us the pastebin link of your sources.list file?
[22:08] <bbonora> sure
[22:08] <Malgorath> holstein, not sure how I could do that without being able to boot the rescue/recovery partition of windows
[22:08] <bbonora> give me a sec
[22:08] <holstein> Malgorath: a windows cd, AFAIK
[22:09] <Malgorath> holstein, this system came with no DVDs/CDs nor does it have a method to make a backup/recovery dvd
[22:09] <holstein> Malgorath: you might need to ask the manufacturer for a hard copy
[22:09] <usr13> Malgorath: Win7?
[22:09] <Malgorath> windows 8
[22:11] <usr13> Malgorath: Unfortunately, Win7 and Win8 require MS Windows install CD to reinstall the MS Windows boot loader.  And when  you call and ask for one, your vender will be more than happy to charge you about $30
[22:12] <Malgorath> usr13, does win8 use same bootloader as win7? I have 3 win7 OEM DVDs
[22:12] <usr13> Malgorath:  I don't know for sure.
[22:12] <holstein> Malgorath: since your machine is not booting, it literally wont hurt to try, but thats a question for a windows channel
[22:13] <pvl1> how do i purge in synaptic or aptitude, if possible
[22:13] <bbonora> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/kHcTCkzw
[22:13] <Jeruvy> Malgorath you may want to ask windows questions in ##windows, but it 'can'.
[22:13] <holstein> pvl1: i would just try autoremove
[22:13] <pvl1> holstein: are you sure that purges though?
[22:14] <hewhomust> pvl, tried sudo apt-get --purge remove something
[22:14] <pvl1> hewhomust: i know but im purging a lot, and i wanna do it visually
[22:14] <hewhomust> ok
[22:14] <pvl1> im trying to make a custom ubuntu live usb
[22:14] <holstein> pvl1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[22:14] <pvl1> and i wanna make an iso so i have copies
[22:15] <varunendra> bbonora, the file is normal, nothing wrong there.
[22:15] <pvl1> holstein: i guess i have to apt-get holstein alright thanks
[22:16] <holstein> pvl1: apt is about the only option left if you remove the others
[22:16] <holstein> pvl1: apt-get purge <package_name>
[22:17] <Sefid_par> Can I load module ip_tables to my vps?
[22:17] <usr13> Malgorath: "Insert the Windows 8 Installation Disc in your system's optical drive, or use a bootable USB"  (From:  http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-fix-windows-8-mbr-master-boot-record/ )
[22:18] <bbonora> hmmm
[22:18] <varunendra> bbonora, I'm not sure, but for proxy configuration, maybe apt-config can show us something. Please give us pastebin link of "apt-config dump"
[22:18] <bbonora> restart?
[22:18] <usr13> Sefid_par: What?
[22:19] <Sefid_par> My vps seems not have ip_tables module loaded
[22:19] <Helpme1s> hey guys i need help ,,
[22:19] <Sefid_par> But I need ip_tables
[22:19] <ikonia> Sefid_par: normally that is because it's not a real ubuntu install, but a basterized version, with a incompatible module
[22:19] <ikonia> Sefid_par: please show me the output of uname -a
[22:19] <usr13> Sefid_par: sudo apt-get install iptables
[22:20] <Helpme1s> hello guys
[22:20] <hewhomust> hi help
[22:20] <Helpme1s> hewhomust can u help me ?
[22:20] <Sefid_par> 2.6.32-042stab078.28 #1 SMP Mon Jul 8 10:17:22 MSK 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:20] <hewhomust> lol i dont know
[22:20] <ikonia> Helpme1s: think about it, people can't help until you tell them the problem
[22:20] <hewhomust> what is it?
[22:20] <Helpme1s> can i tell you my problem ?
[22:20] <ikonia> Sefid_par: yes, that is the same problem
[22:20] <ikonia> Sefid_par: the module won't load
[22:21] <ikonia> Sefid_par: I've sen it about 20 times this week, you got an update from your VPS provider recently and it breaks the iptables modules
[22:21] <usr13> Helpme1s: Ask away, (that's how it works).
[22:21] <pvl1> Sefid_par: have you tried?
[22:21] <Sefid_par> pvl1: try what?
[22:21] <Sefid_par> ikonia: Is there another way to nat?
[22:21] <ikonia> Sefid_par: not really no, iptables is the correct way to do it
[22:22] <bbonora> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/kmDPsyMX
[22:22] <hewhomust> help, what exactly is the problem?
[22:22] <dennis> I am a student. I need a programming mentor because we have very crapy faculty in India. I feel lost as no else in university is interested in learning. All are after girls. I really want to learn how computers work. I dont care if I will have to study for 24 hours a day. I just need someone to show me a path. I can walk alone. Please help :(
[22:22] <hewhomust> dude just go after girls life will be easier lol
[22:23] <ikonia> dennis: that is not what this channel is about, sorry
[22:23] <Sefid_par> What is a good way to redirect connection to another host?
[22:23] <ikonia> dennis: talk to your tutors
[22:23] <Helpme1s> ok i just installed ubuntu 13.04 dual boot with windows 7 (im on windows 7 now) and there was no internet connection during the live cd or in the installed os it keep trying  to connect but always fail i tried to set my ip i set it like this (192.168.1.6-255.255.255.0-192.168.1.1) it connected but i still cant access the internet or update ..
[22:23] <ikonia> Sefid_par: iptables,
[22:23] <Sefid_par> :)
[22:23] <ikonia> Sefid_par: not trying to be awkward, but it's the right tool for the right job
[22:23] <ikonia> Sefid_par: talk to your VPS provider, and ask them to fix it
[22:23] <pvl1> Sefid_par: have you tried enabling the module?
[22:23] <hewhomust> deniis try #python
[22:23] <pvl1> ^^
[22:24] <dennis> ikonia: They have not even written a hello world program without looking at a book.
[22:24] <Sefid_par> pvl1: not yet
[22:24] <pvl1> Helpme1s: disable whatever settings youve enabled
[22:24] <ikonia> dennis: well, not what this channel is here for, sorry
[22:24] <usr13> Helpme1s: Can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[22:24] <pvl1> Helpme1s: are you connecting wireless or wired
[22:24] <mJayk> Helpme1s: are you trying to connect via wireless or wired ?
[22:24] <hewhomust> print "hello world" there done
[22:24] <hewhomust> now you can say hello
[22:24] <Helpme1s> usr13 no it says server not found or something like this
[22:24] <ikonia> hewhomust: stop it - help people or don't but stop messing around please.
[22:25] <Helpme1s> i can ping 192.168.1.1 but i cant access my router page via browser
[22:25] <Helpme1s> wired
[22:25] <usr13> Helpme1s: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[22:25] <Helpme1s> ok i will try that then come back
[22:25] <mJayk> Helpme1s: also check proxy settings
[22:26] <hewhomust> dennis/ ##C on freenode
[22:26] <Helpme1s> mjay i checked they was nothing
[22:26] <ikonia> hewhomust: stop it
[22:26] <Helpme1s> its totally fresh install
[22:26] <mJayk> Helpme1s: ah ok just a thought :) gl
[22:26] <Helpme1s> brb
[22:26] <hewhomust> im just suggesting potentially helpful channels
[22:26] <usr13> Helpme1s: ping -c3 8.8.8.8  To test.  Then see if you can resolve domain names;  ping -c3 av.com  (Add valid nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf file if needed.)
[22:26] <ikonia> hewhomust: they are random.
[22:27] <ikonia> hewhomust: the channel is for ubuntu support, please keep with that
[22:27] <varunendra> bbonora, I'm not sure if that is the reason, but the lines 160 and 161 (Acquire HTTP and Acquire HTTP Proxy "/") don't exist in my apt-config.
[22:27] <Sefid_par> usr13: FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.; does it mean that I can not load ip_tables?
[22:27] <Helpme1s> usr13  how do i add nameservers ?
[22:27] <ikonia> Sefid_par: as I told you earlier,
[22:27] <bbonora> varunendra: where would I set this? Is there a file I can edit?
[22:28] <usr13> Helpme1s: Edit /etc/resolv.conf
[22:28] <ikonia> Sefid_par: that's actually not the right module name
[22:28] <usr13> Helpme1s: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[22:28] <Helpme1s> usr13 the other name server (8.8.4.4) is not needed ?
[22:28] <varunendra> bbonora, do you have an "/etc/apt/apt.conf" file?
[22:29] <Sefid_par> ikonia: What is the exact name? netfilter?
[22:29] <bbonora> varunendra: let me take a look
[22:29] <ikonia> Sefid_par: there are multiple modules, for each different "table" in iptabvles,
[22:29] <ikonia> Sefid_par: you'll need to contact your VPS provider to get them to load though
[22:29] <Helpme1s> ok brb
[22:29] <Sefid_par> Ok, thanks
[22:30] <bbonora> varunendra: Yes! this is what it says Acquire::http::Proxy "/";
[22:30] <bbonora> Acquire :: http :: Proxy "/";
[22:30] <bbonora> should I just comment that out and try running it?
[22:31] <varunendra> bbonora, not sure if commenting in these files works, but try it anyway, then recheck "apt-config dump" to see if it took effect.
[22:32] <varunendra> bbonora, is that the only line in that file?
[22:34] <bbonora> varunendra: That's the only line. The comment seemed to work
[22:34] <varunendra> great! Retry then.
[22:35] <bbonora> varunendra: so... no more proxy error message but now it just says "No new release found"
[22:36] <varunendra> bbonora, just for reference, I don't have that file in my 12.04 default installation. Instead a apt-conf.d directory with random files.
[22:36] <atgc> hi guys, I was directed from a linuxmint-help channel to come here to ask about a driver problem
[22:37] <ikonia> atgc: you using mint ?
[22:37] <atgc> ikonia: yes
[22:37] <bbonora> varunendra: I have the apt.conf.d directory as well. I think I might just delete that file
[22:37] <ikonia> atgc: ok, so this is not the right channel
[22:37] <atgc> :(
[22:37] <ikonia> atgc: the mint channel you where in IS the right place
[22:37] <atgc> they couldn't figure it out
[22:38] <atgc> or at least the one person who was trying to help
[22:38] <varunendra> bbonora,  I think you  should also try the one file that contains the "Acquire :: http "" " line. To find that file - "grep -iR acquire /etc/apt/apt-conf.d"
[22:38] <ikonia> atgc: sorry about that, you'll need to wait for someone else in that channel to help
[22:39] <varunendra> bbonora, like I mentioned, the "Acquire::http "";" line also doesn't exist in my apt-config dump
[22:40] <bbonora> varunendra: okay, let me give that a try
[22:41] <bbonora> varunendra: looks like it's in a file called 50unattended-upgrades and 00CDMMountPoint
[22:43] <varunendra> bbonora, the first file is also present in my installation, but not that line in it.
[22:44] <bbonora> varunendra: it's commented out in the first file
[22:44] <bbonora> //
[22:45] <bbonora> :q!
[22:46] <smgordon> good afternoon
[22:48] <Sc0tty-> does anyone know how to place a irssi theme into the irsi folder? I can't find the folder
[22:49] <mJayk> Sc0tty-: isnt it hidden in home
[22:49] <bbonora> when I try to run update-manager is says that the command doesn't exists
[22:49] <Sc0tty-> how do I find it? (I am a noob)
[22:49] <varunendra> bbonora, maybe we are looking in the wrong place, since normal updates seem to be working.
[22:49] <varunendra> bbonora, which command ?
[22:50] <mJayk> Sc0tty: try cd /home/USERNAME/.irssi
[22:50] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi#Enhancing_Irssi
[22:50] <bbonora> update-manager -d
[22:50] <Slart> Sc0tty-: normally linux programs have directories in your home-directory.. so irssi would have a directory called .irssi where it stores personal settings and such.. the starting dot makes this hidden normally in nautilus, CTRL+H should show you these hidden files
[22:50] <Sc0tty-> thank you mate
[22:51] <mJayk> Sc0tty-: nps hope it helps
[22:52] <bbonora> varunendra: here is what it says when I run sudo apt-get install update-manager - http://pastebin.com/r0GQX0an
[22:53] <Sc0tty-> I got it thanks
[22:53] <bbonora> I think I need to install synaptic
[22:53] <varunendra> bbonora, your original installation is maverick?
[22:53] <bbonora> I believe so
[22:53] <bbonora> it's been a long time
[22:54] <varunendra> bbonora, check the output of "lsb_release -d
[22:54] <bbonora> ubuntu 10.10
[22:56] <varunendra> bbonora, I'm quite sure this is the reason. Upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 is simply not possible. A fresh installation is the only possible way it seems.
[22:56] <bbonora> varunendra: ah darn! okay, well I guess that's good to know
[22:57] <smgordon> Hello new here and new to ubuntu. both seem fairly easy to use so far
[22:58] <varunendra> bbonora, LTS to LTS upgrade is possible (although it is also prone to breakage), but non-LTS to LTS with missing in-between versions is not possible.
[22:58] <varunendra> so there we are :) bbonora
[22:59] <bbonora> varunendra: thanks for your help. I guess I will just back up the files and transfer the files to a new instance.
[22:59] <nate15329> my server gets stuck at here time to time any ideas? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5916517/
[22:59] <varunendra> Good idea, and you're welcome ! bbonora
[23:01] <blazemore> !details | nate is that when it's booting?
[23:03] <nate15329> yes when booting, ubuntu server 13.04; it just started out of nowhere; i thought it was an pci-x sata card i added but nothing changed when i removed it
[23:05] <nate15329> im using the latest kernel...weird part is that when i boot into the recovery mode it does that no matter what & hangs
[23:06] <augustl> hey folks. I just installed i3 and logged in with it. Now a whole lot of nothing works :) Seems a lot of processes only starts up when using unity. Any suggestions on how to best use i3?
[23:07] <ikonia> augustl: i3 ?
[23:08] <Sc0tty-> This whole terminal business is daunting!
[23:08] <Helpme1s> hewhomust u there
[23:08] <augustl> ikonia: it's a window manager
[23:08] <ikonia> !info i3
[23:08] <ikonia> never heard of it, thank you augustl
[23:09] <Helpme1s> guys can i get help i have no internet conection on my ubuntu os
[23:09] <Sc0tty-> have you plugged the cable in?
[23:10] <Helpme1s> yes it says connected after i entered my ip adress but no internet
[23:10] <augustl> ikonia: seems a lot of stuff doesn't start up when not using unity
[23:10] <Helpme1s> im on windows 7 now i have ubuntu on dual boot
[23:10] <brassmonkey> shouldn't have to manually enter your ip address
[23:10] <augustl> currently running under vmware, none of the guest additions are running under i3, for example
[23:10] <ikonia> augustl: tjat seem wrong
[23:10] <ikonia> that
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, Ethernet or wifi, and can you identify the card, if it is internal lspci in the terminal should list it.
[23:11] <Helpme1s> brass i had to coz it fail to connect
[23:11] <mJayk> Helpme1s: seams daft does it work on any other devices?
[23:11] <Helpme1s> ethernet wired
[23:11] <augustl> yeah, it's a bit weird. Screen resolution borked, copy/paste not working, etc
[23:11] <Helpme1s> mjay huh ?
[23:11] <Helpme1s> wileenilee huh ?
[23:12] <mJayk> Helpme1s: Can you connect to the net via your router on any other devices
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, Huh is not an answer be specific.
[23:12] <Helpme1s> yes im on the same machine now
[23:12] <Helpme1s> wilee i dont know what is  internal lspci
[23:13] <Helpme1s> troll@troll-G41MT-ES2L:~$ ping -c3 8.8.8.8
[23:13] <Helpme1s> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[23:13] <Helpme1s> From 192.168.1.4 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[23:13] <Helpme1s> From 192.168.1.4 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
[23:13] <Helpme1s> From 192.168.1.4 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
[23:13] <FloodBot1> Helpme1s: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <Helpme1s> --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
[23:13] <Helpme1s> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2015ms
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, if the card is internal, you can run in the terminal lspci it will list hardware find the ethernet card and post it
[23:14] <brian234> Hi, I remember hearing about a command to create a folder that points to a network or internet location, but the OS thinks of it as a regular folder. What is this command called?
[23:15] <jrib> brian234: sshfs perhaps if you mean over ssh
[23:15] <brassmonkey> is there a newer project than libimobiledevice thats working to get ios devices to sync music?
[23:15] <crankygeek01> T
[23:16] <brian234> jrib: thanks that was just what I need
[23:16] <Helpme1s> wilee the name of the card is "Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
[23:16] <Helpme1s> " im now online via windows 7 and i got ubuntu on dual boot
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> !Realtek
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, ^^^^^
[23:17] <ubuntivity> Hello everyone, I've performed 4 new updates today on my Ubuntu 12.04, but I noticed it became markedly slower to boot and load after entering my user password. What is exactly wrong?
[23:17] <Helpme1s> whats thats supposed to mean ?
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, read the posts what do you see ubottu referencing?
[23:19] <Helpme1s> oh thank you very much
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, I can be confusing if you have not been here or used to it ubottu is a bot. ;)
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> It rather then I heh
[23:22] <Helpme1s> wilee may i ask a question ?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, Not a normal occurrence so details are important for the channel.
[23:23] <lonewulf85> Ubuntu Linux is now my new favorite OS. I <3 Ubuntu
[23:23] <ubuntivity> What are the useful details, wilee-nilee ?
[23:23] <bejker> hi
[23:23] <bejker> cane someone help me with alsarc?
[23:24] <Helpme1s> the link u gave me is about "rtl8187b" my lan card is rtl8139
[23:24] <Helpme1s> how im going to update my driver with other model files ?
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, cpu speed and ram, what was part of updates, any additional installs, the release your running. Basically what you have described should not be happening, is this a feeing or are you sure?
[23:26] <ubuntivity> CPU Speed: Core i3 2.20GHz, RAM: 4GB, don't remember the updates, though. Can I find them in a log or something?
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, so what is the difference in speed, how long is the boot now?
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> bejker, The channel works with you stating your issues to start with.
[23:29] <ubuntivity> Didn't count the seconds, but something clear to notice is the loading of the login screen, usually it loads with my wallpaper instantly, but now I can see the violet background for more than a second until my regular wallpaper shows in the login screen..
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, When did you install?
[23:31] <lauratika> is it possible to use BitTorrent Sync to share files among different accounts on same pc in ubuntu 12.04??
[23:31] <ubuntivity> Today, wilee-nilee.
[23:31] <ubuntivity> about 3 hours ago
[23:32] <ubuntivity> Wait, you mean when did I update or when did I install this version of Ubuntu?
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> 1 second is not markedly sounds normal so far honestly with more exacting measurement at least to me ubuntivity
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> without*
[23:32] <ubuntivity> I have this ubuntu installation for about 3 months
[23:33] <ubuntivity> There is other delay after I login, which is about 4 seconds with nothing but the wallpaper and the mouse (it wasn't that way before)
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, Not sure, sorry.
[23:34] <ubuntivity> How can I find what were the last 4 updates? Where can I find the log (if any)?
[23:35] <tgm4883> ubuntivity, /var/log/apt/history.log
[23:36] <lauratika> is there a bit torrent channel here
[23:36] <lauratika> sorry freenode?
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, what irc app are you using, many have a channel search
[23:37] <lauratika> opera
[23:38] <Martijn-NL> wilee-nilee: I'm using xChat :-)
[23:38] <ubuntivity> Here are the latest updates that I suspect might cause my Ubuntu 12.04 to slow down: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916579/
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, #bittorrent
[23:38] <ubuntivity> *might caused
[23:38] <Martijn-NL> lauratika: Use Ubuntu software centre to install xChat on your system....
[23:41] <lauratika> Martijn-NL: no thanx opera works great... thanx wilee-nilee
[23:42] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, Please do not quote me but aside from the lightdm updates the other ones are sql updates which just to my knowledge help you computer communicate better on the INTERNET and with servers. Is it web browsing that is getting slow?
[23:43] <ubuntivity> No, lonewulf85. Web browsing is OK. So, what lightdm is used for?
[23:44] <Ben64> !info lightdm
[23:44] <ubuntivity> Then I suspect it might be the cause, does that make sense?
[23:44] <Ben64> thats not very informative... "LightDM is a cross-desktop display manager that aims is to be the standard display manager for the X.org X server. The motivation for this project is there have been many new display managers written since XDM (often based on the XDM source). The main difference between these projects is in the GUIs (e.g. different toolkits) and performance - this could be better accomplished with a common display manager th
[23:44] <Ben64> at allows these differences. "
[23:44] <Ben64> from the lightdm website
[23:45] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, lightdm is just the desktop manager it could cause the issue but it is not very likely I do not think.
[23:46] <ubuntivity> Is there a way to downgrade that particular package? to see if the slowing behaviour change?
[23:46] <Ben64> ubuntivity: if i had to guess, i would blame unity on it loading slow, maybe you're using unity3d and used to use 2d?
[23:46] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, are you in an actual install or is this a vmware installation?
[23:46] <dlaflamme> MLE
[23:46] <ubuntivity> Ben64: I've always used Unity3D, lonewulf85: It is an actual install.
[23:46] <jrib> ubuntivity: lightdm is a login manager
[23:47] <ubuntivity> jrib: That
[23:47] <ubuntivity> jrib: That's exactly what is slowing down here! (check my previous messages above)
[23:47] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, does the machine have a 32bit cpu or x64?
[23:47] <ubuntivity> an x64 processor (Core i3) but a x86 installation
[23:47] <jrib> ubuntivity: create a fresh new user, see if issue persists
[23:47] <Ben64> once you put in the password, lightdm doesn't really do anything else but start the environment (unity)
[23:48] <ubuntivity> Going to do so jrib, Ben64: that's where the slowing occurs, once the environment is loaded, the speed is as I used to.
[23:48] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I bring this up because my little acer netbook has an x64 processor and with the 32bit install it runs slow but with the 64 bit it is fine.
[23:49] <KeyboardNotFound> When ubuntu forums will back ?
[23:49] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: try #ubuntuforums
[23:50] <ubuntivity> lonewulf85: I noticed this recent noticable slowing down today after I updated installed packages..
[23:50] <KeyboardNotFound> jrib, Thanks, I will try
[23:50] <lonewulf85> Also for anyone who might need it take a look at this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/06/11-tips-to-speed-up-computers-running.html please use carefully some could be harmful if used incorrectly
[23:51] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, one sec I have an application that might help let me find the link. I use it a lot.
[23:52] <mr-tech> hello how are you
[23:52] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, The application is ubuntu tweak it is great because of the janitor feature.
[23:52] <itgeekwhisperer> good evening everyone
[23:52] <ubuntivity> I already have it, so should I perform a 'clean up'?
[23:52] <mr-tech> Hello every one
[23:53] <ubuntivity> welcome mr-tech, itgeekwhisperer
[23:53] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, If you are familiar with Windows os application it would be comparable to ccleaner
[23:54] <ubuntivity> Didn't use ccleaner on Windows, and no more using Windows :|   So, what does it do?
[23:54] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I would try and see if that helps. I run the clean up after every set of updates FYI about once a week.
[23:54] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, It just frees up space an your system by cleaning up the caches filed.
[23:54] <mr-tech> This is my first time here
[23:55] <ubuntivity> I've once heard that clean ups might slow things down because they removed cached stuff and re-caching them takes time, is that true? or is there any truth in that at all??
[23:55] <ubuntivity> mr-tech: I hope you'll have a nice and beneficial time here :)
[23:55] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I am not sure it has not been my experience but everyones hardware is different.
[23:56] <mr-tech> ubuntivity do you run that though the termemal
[23:56] <ubuntivity> I'll perform the clean up as long as you are doing it safely ^_^ lonewulf85
[23:57] <ubuntivity> mr-tech: What do you mean? the IRC client?
[23:57] <mr-tech> yes
[23:57] <xiudo> LOL mr-tech i like that name
[23:57] <xiudo> :D
[23:57] <mr-tech> thanks
[23:58] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I have not had an issue because of it yet, although I did have to re install earlier today because of some line I messed up in a system file by accident ;)
[23:58] <ubuntivity> mr-tech: No, I'm running it now from Firefox browser through webchat.freenode.net, but I sometimes run it from terminal (I use weechat)
[23:58] <ubuntivity> lonewulf85: should I clean all the entries in that janitor?
[23:59] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I usually save the most recent kernels.