[03:41] <vivid> is traditional xorg available as an option for 13.10/unity?
[03:46] <trism> vivid: based on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-June/037401.html that would seem to be the case, but mir hasn't landed yet so hard to say
[03:50] <vivid> oh, well as long as im not forced transition at this point
[03:50] <vivid> because i need nvidia+x11 still and probably will for quite some time
[07:30] <[Ch4m3l30n]> I'm trying to find out which version of BlueZ will be in Ubuntu 13.10. Can anybody indicate which or point me to where I can find that information? I'm not having luck locating the information on the Ubuntu Wiki. Thx in advance.
[07:35] <[Ch4m3l30n]> I found the following comment from earlier this month on a launchpad bug to upgrade to the BlueZ 5.x stack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1162781/comments/3
[07:35] <[Ch4m3l30n]> LOL; jynx
[07:36] <[Ch4m3l30n]> Now I'm responding to bots! I should just go to bed.
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:05] <soc> is it intentional that the release-notes for alpha/beta/... releases don't mention anymore how one can upgrade existing installations?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> anyone who updates and dist-upgrades today might lose VLC if installed , easily solved thought , just re-nstall it
[13:10] <BluesKaj> soc, upgrade to the next OS or just existing packages?
[13:15] <soc> next OS
[15:19] <kdef> ubuntu forums still down?
[15:19] <kdef> they don't use ubuntu servers?   maybe they use windows servers? :D
[16:01] <IdleOne> Did you try going to ubuntuforums.org ?
[16:16] <Ampelbein> IdleOne: It's still down from here.
[16:17] <IdleOne> Ampelbein: indeed. I should have mentioned kdef's nick in my post
[16:17] <Ampelbein> IdleOne: Ah, I see.
[16:21] <penguin42> intresting, personal mounts have moved to /media/username/whatever
[16:49] <penguin42> gah, this is gently confusing lots of stuff - like my gnucash trying to open the file it normally opens that's normally in /media/crypt
[16:49] <penguin42> (but probably is the right things to do)
[19:18] <thetinyjesus> hey guys question for you all, im trying to install ps3mediaserver from backports and not 100% sure how
[19:18] <thetinyjesus> i tried install ps3mediaserver/raring-backports no success
[19:21] <bazhang> raring questions in #ubuntu please
[19:21] <thetinyjesus> its not a raring question im running 13.10 trying to install ps3mediaserver from raring backports
[19:22] <bazhang> !find ps3mediaserver saucy
[19:22] <Daekdroom> thetinyjesus, ps3mediaserver apparently is not even a package in the official repos.
[19:22] <thetinyjesus> ive installed ps3mediaserver for the past 4 years but simply sudo apt-get install ps3mediaserver
[19:22] <thetinyjesus> by
[19:23] <Daekdroom> !find ps3mediaserver raring
[19:23] <Daekdroom> !find ps3mediaserver quantal
[19:23] <jtaylor> installing raring backports on 13.10 makes no sense
[19:23] <thetinyjesus> ah okay its my fault not giving full info
[19:23] <thetinyjesus> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:happy-neko/ps3mediaserver
[19:23] <thetinyjesus> is the ppa for it
[19:23] <jtaylor> backports are backported from(!) 13.10
[19:23] <Daekdroom> thetinyjesus, you most likely had a different repo that had it
[19:23] <thetinyjesus> that ppa is for raring not 13.10
[19:24] <thetinyjesus> idk how to use it on 13.10
[19:24] <jtaylor> change the line in your sources.d from saucy to raring
[19:24] <Daekdroom> Although if you were clueless about doing that, I hardly think you should be using 13.10, specially this early in the development.
[19:24] <jtaylor> or ask the ppa to provide a 13.10 package
[19:25] <thetinyjesus> i wasn't clueless to doing that, i simply forgot that it wasnt an offical ppa..
[19:25] <thetinyjesus> official
[19:25] <Daekdroom> I don't see how that it's not an official PPA (most aren't, anyway) affects it.
[19:25] <bazhang> very few are official
[19:26] <Daekdroom> software-properties-gtk, or however it's called, also should allow you to change that
[19:35] <thetinyjesus> well got it to work
[19:36] <thetinyjesus> for some reason it took a few tries ubuntu kept switching it from raring back to saucy  not sure why
[19:42] <thetinyjesus> trying to remove unity-lens-shopping its telling me to remove unity-scope-home are they the same?
[19:43] <Daekdroom> thetinyjesus, unity-lens-shopping is a requirement for unity-scope-home
[19:43] <thetinyjesus> ah so its non removable due to dependencies now?