[06:23] <[Ch4m3l30n]> How can I tell which version/release of BlueZ is in the kernel I'm running? [06:25] <[Ch4m3l30n]> I'm trying to pair my OUYA controller to my desktop PC so my wife and I can play Trine 2 together and it seems like the controller requires the "Auto-pairing (PIN lookup) support" introduced in BlueZ 5.5 released on May 14th 2013. Two subsequent releases within the last 7 days have further improved that controller support and fixed bugs. [06:27] [Ch4m3l30n]: bluez is in userspace, not in the kernel [06:28] <[Ch4m3l30n]> kernel modules = userspace? [06:30] I'm not seeing any kernel modules in the bluez tarball [06:32] <[Ch4m3l30n]> I wouldn't expect that you should... wouldn't they come from kernel.org? [06:32] <[Ch4m3l30n]> http://www.bluez.org/about/ says "Currently BlueZ consists of many separate modules: [06:32] <[Ch4m3l30n]> Bluetooth kernel subsystem core [06:32] <[Ch4m3l30n]> L2CAP and SCO audio kernel layers"... [06:33] bluez us entirely userspace, the radios have a socket interface [06:35] <[Ch4m3l30n]> Let me ask my question a different way... the website http://www.bluez.org/ lists the latest releases as 5.x and the Ubuntu 13.04 package manager lists the latest available package for bluez as 4.101-0ubuntu8b1. Is that an indication that the bluez distributed in Ubuntu is incredibly old or what? [06:35] It is [06:37] <[Ch4m3l30n]> OK, I see that 4.101 was released about 1 year ago and the new 5.x versions are only 7 months old... [06:39] <[Ch4m3l30n]> I will compile from the latest release source code. Thank you for your time and helping me understand the architecture to rectify my confusion. Cheers! [06:40] theres a reason they're still using 4 [06:40] heh [06:42] you will break your system, not in a way that can't be fixed, but in a way not many people are willing to walk you through [06:42] <[Ch4m3l30n]> ugh [06:43] <[Ch4m3l30n]> It's so frustratingly paradoxical that Linux is so far ahead of the competition in many ways, yet also so far behind. [06:45] big number changes imply a lot of change, takes time; most of the bluetooth work is use driven, and people are trying to get audio and stuff for phones/in vehicle entertainment work a bit better in the transition [06:48] <[Ch4m3l30n]> Yes; I agree. === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube