| IdleOne | anybody awake? | 01:39 |
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| ubottu | aeon-ltd called the ops in #ubuntu (IthinkImightbega) | 07:22 |
| ubottu | IthinkImightbega called the ops in #ubuntu () | 07:22 |
| Myrtti | charming | 07:25 |
| ikonia | wilee-nilee: is basically the random wheel of support spewer | 18:55 |
| avallark | why am i here? | 19:12 |
| ikonia | because I've forwarded you from the core ubuntu channel to the operator team channe | 19:13 |
| ikonia | channel | 19:13 |
| avallark | why was the question, i know what happened | 19:13 |
| ikonia | few reasons | 19:13 |
| ikonia | but basically to talk to you without disrupting the hcannel | 19:13 |
| ikonia | channel even | 19:13 |
| avallark | cool, are you going to fix my issue? | 19:14 |
| ikonia | no, not at all | 19:14 |
| avallark | awesome | 19:15 |
| ikonia | the first thing I wanted to talk to you about was your language | 19:15 |
| ikonia | if you could please keep the swearing out of the channel, it would be very much appreciated | 19:15 |
| ikonia | is that ok? | 19:15 |
| avallark | you know this is the first time i have been swearing.. its cos you've been ticking me off.. you took offense at a joke I started off with.. | 19:16 |
| ikonia | you didn't make a joke | 19:16 |
| ikonia | please show me the joke ? | 19:16 |
| avallark | you are tiring. | 19:17 |
| ikonia | do you wish to resolve your ban in #ubuntu ? | 19:17 |
| ikonia | as I'm confused at why you swore because I ticked you off, when your first line in the channel was to call your laptop a "bitch" before anyone had spoken to you | 19:18 |
| avallark | is that that big a deal for you? I have so little energy left in me for banter | 19:18 |
| ikonia | ok, then lets leave it then and not bother | 19:18 |
| avallark | whats wrong with me calling my laptop a bitch .. actually i called it an over-sensitive bitch .. referring to the over sensitive touch pad i had | 19:19 |
| ikonia | it's rude, it's not polite, people read the channel from all ages and backgrounds | 19:19 |
| ikonia | I let it slide and asked you to tone it down | 19:19 |
| ikonia | you then said "what the fuck is this !!!!" | 19:19 |
| ikonia | so again, you come back with unacceptable language | 19:19 |
| ikonia | after I'd already asked you to tone it down please. | 19:20 |
| avallark | ok, girl, listen to me.. if you ban me, i ll just rotate ips and come back with a different id.. but i dont troll channels and for sure i dont follow people and annoy the hell out of them even though you are not an ops in #debian | 19:21 |
| ikonia | ok, then lets leave it here and you are banned | 19:21 |
| ikonia | not really interesting in negotiating threats | 19:21 |
| ikonia | please leave the channel | 19:22 |
| avallark | threats? | 19:22 |
| ikonia | yes, you've just threatened to try to evade the ban | 19:22 |
| avallark | what is wrong with you? got out of the wrong side of the bed? | 19:22 |
| ikonia | i'll make sure freenode staff are aware that you will use your account to break freenodes policy on bans | 19:22 |
| ikonia | lets leave it there, | 19:22 |
| avallark | no i wont, i dont care much, am just an ordinary user trying to get his machine working.. and you just wasted so much of my time cos you do not understand a joke.. its people like you who freightens people away from linux.. | 19:23 |
| ikonia | ok, sure | 19:23 |
| ikonia | please leave the channel | 19:23 |
| Myrtti | it would actually be beneficial if you'd try to assume good faith and good intentions, avallark. We expect people to behave in a certain way, respectful, mature, clean and concise way. Foul language and name-calling of any kind isn't generally tolerated on any Ubuntu IRC channel. | 19:25 |
| avallark | see, you do not know me, i do not use foul language.. what she is complaining about was a joke.. | 19:26 |
| avallark | ask khmar | 19:26 |
| ikonia | 20:26 < avallark> but now that i am working (mba shit) i needed to get my | 19:26 |
| ikonia | considering you don't use foul language, you sure use it a lot | 19:27 |
| avallark | and who was offended by that? | 19:28 |
| ikonia | me | 19:28 |
| Myrtti | avallark: the thing is, #ubuntu is a support channel, and since people come from different cultures, ages etc, such 'jokes' are often misinterpreted | 19:28 |
| Myrtti | and so we kindly ask people to refer making them | 19:28 |
| avallark | Myrtti: understood. That was a nice and polite way to make people understand. thank you. | 19:29 |
| avallark | on #ubuntu , i'd be careful. thanks | 19:31 |
| IdleOne | avallark: At this time the ban is going to stay in place. Please part this channel. | 19:37 |
| avallark | cool mate :) | 19:37 |
| avallark | how come you cant kick me out of this channel? | 19:37 |
| avallark | :D | 19:37 |
| IdleOne | Because I can ask you nicely. There is no reason to add to the problem by...nevermind | 19:38 |
| avallark | oh | 19:38 |
| avallark | sorry.. | 19:38 |
| IdleOne | Because I can ask you nicely. There is no reason to add to the problem by forcing you to leave | 19:38 |
| avallark | i just wanted to see what happens if i join #ubuntu | 19:38 |
| avallark | i see i end up here.. | 19:38 |
| avallark | sorry | 19:38 |
| LjL | chu: ^ ;( | 19:39 |
| ikonia | ha ha ha | 19:39 |
| chu | Oh man :( | 19:39 |
| IdleOne | I didn't want to say anything but LOL | 19:39 |
| chu | Least he's not an #emacs'er | 19:39 |
| IdleOne | want I should let him know about the channel? | 19:40 |
| chu | Damnit, he joined. | 19:40 |
| bazhang | emacs has a channel? whatever for? | 19:40 |
| chu | Oh well. | 19:40 |
| IdleOne | I swear it wasn't me | 19:40 |
| bazhang | VIM I can understand... | 19:41 |
| IdleOne | troll detected ^ | 19:41 |
| IdleOne | :P | 19:41 |
| avallark | hello guys.. I just came in to have a word with ikonia | 19:43 |
| ikonia | avallark: then you can send me a message | 19:43 |
| ikonia | this channel isn't a chat channel | 19:43 |
| avallark | do you know how to chat a private chat? | 19:44 |
| avallark | if so please do | 19:44 |
| ikonia | ???? | 19:44 |
| ikonia | I'm not going to start a random private chat with you | 19:44 |
| IdleOne | avallark: either /msg nick or /query nick | 19:44 |
| ikonia | ooh I see | 19:45 |
| ikonia | you're asking how to do it | 19:45 |
| ikonia | avallark: please /part the channel now | 20:06 |
| bazhang | bit rot! | 21:44 |
| bazhang | fresh install! | 21:44 |
| ikonia | would someone consider speaking to nannes | 22:12 |
| ikonia | his advice is a disaster and it's actually just random bad advice | 22:13 |
| ikonia | I've pulled him up on it already so would rather someone else did this time | 22:13 |
| ikonia | hey nannes | 22:15 |
| nannes | ikonia: what's wrong now? | 22:16 |
| nannes | I cannot express my opiunity?ut nions abo | 22:16 |
| ikonia | I'd just really like you to consider the advice you're giving | 22:16 |
| nannes | *my opinions about unity | 22:16 |
| ikonia | it's not really very well thought through and has more serious implications to peoples systems | 22:16 |
| ikonia | if you could really think about what you are saying / advising before advising it and really try to help the user with their problem to a working solution, I'd very very much appreciate it | 22:17 |
| ikonia | nannes: do you know what I'm refering to ? | 22:18 |
| nannes | that's what I'm doing | 22:18 |
| nannes | I know what you're refering to | 22:18 |
| ikonia | you're really not | 22:18 |
| ikonia | 23:06 < ubuntucrashes> hello all | 22:18 |
| ikonia | 23:07 < ubuntucrashes> my ubuntu 12.04 lts freezes very freuently | 22:18 |
| ikonia | 23:07 < nannes> ubuntucrashes: throw unity to the trash. Switch to another DE | 22:18 |
| ikonia | please tell me how you worked out unity was the problem in under 20 seconds and advise him to drop unity to resolve his problem | 22:19 |
| nannes | yeah, that's right, maybe it was too quick. But just because I've been solving so many problems with users and spending so much time finding, at the end, that the problem was unity | 22:20 |
| ikonia | sorry that's just nonsense | 22:20 |
| ikonia | he's given no information, and you've just told him it's unity - dum pit | 22:20 |
| nannes | But after that, I asked him something to understand better his problem | 22:20 |
| ikonia | you've not done any investigation | 22:20 |
| ikonia | it's not good | 22:20 |
| nannes | it's not all black or white ikonia | 22:20 |
| nannes | read how I continued the support | 22:21 |
| ikonia | it is black and white | 22:21 |
| ikonia | you told him to remove unity with no reason or troubleshooting | 22:21 |
| ikonia | in the same way you give this advice to someone | 22:21 |
| ikonia | 18:58 < nannes> Gnjurac: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 | 22:21 |
| ikonia | that's going to cause a conflict | 22:21 |
| ikonia | you then give the correct URL | 22:21 |
| ikonia | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System | 22:21 |
| ikonia | but at that point the damage is done | 22:21 |
| ikonia | he's already done the bad advice | 22:22 |
| ikonia | that's why I'm asking you to stop - think, get the information and then make a reasonable comment to help the user | 22:22 |
| nannes | yeah | 22:22 |
| ikonia | rather than this scatter gun random approach and then try to tidy up | 22:22 |
| ikonia | it can't really continue like this, you're doing more harm than good. | 22:22 |
| ikonia | if you don't know the answer, it's ok to not comment. | 22:23 |
| nannes | anyway, please read the rest: | 22:23 |
| nannes | (23:09:12) nannes: ubuntucrashes: so it happens only when browsing? | 22:23 |
| nannes | (23:09:35) ubuntucrashes: often yes | 22:23 |
| nannes | (23:10:03) nannes: what are the others situations it freezes, except while browsing the web? | 22:23 |
| ikonia | I'm not interested in the rest | 22:23 |
| ikonia | you've already done the damage | 22:23 |
| nannes | ikonia: ok I'm sorry I admit I exaggerated | 22:23 |
| ikonia | it's not a problem | 22:23 |
| nannes | but believe me, there's a reason behind | 22:24 |
| ikonia | I'm sorry there is no reason | 22:24 |
| nannes | anyway, I'll try to care more | 22:24 |
| ikonia | you've just made up a problem - there is no reason for that | 22:24 |
| ikonia | you just gave out terrible/dangerous instructions - there is no reason for that | 22:24 |
| ikonia | but that would be great if you could apply more thought | 22:24 |
| ikonia | it would be most welcome and appreciated | 22:24 |
| nannes | I've already answered | 22:24 |
| ikonia | yes, and I'm confirming and thanking you | 22:24 |
| nannes | I can go now, see you. Hopefully not in this chan, cause it would mean something got wrong | 22:25 |
| ikonia | not always | 22:25 |
| ikonia | if you need something clarifying, just ask in here | 22:25 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu-ops nannes giving terrible / dangerous advice in #ubuntu, asked to stop and confirmed he would | 22:25 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 22:25 |
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