[01:39] anybody awake? [07:22] aeon-ltd called the ops in #ubuntu (IthinkImightbega) [07:22] IthinkImightbega called the ops in #ubuntu () [07:25] charming [18:55] wilee-nilee: is basically the random wheel of support spewer [19:12] why am i here? [19:13] because I've forwarded you from the core ubuntu channel to the operator team channe [19:13] channel [19:13] why was the question, i know what happened [19:13] few reasons [19:13] but basically to talk to you without disrupting the hcannel [19:13] channel even [19:14] cool, are you going to fix my issue? [19:14] no, not at all [19:15] awesome [19:15] the first thing I wanted to talk to you about was your language [19:15] if you could please keep the swearing out of the channel, it would be very much appreciated [19:15] is that ok? [19:16] you know this is the first time i have been swearing.. its cos you've been ticking me off.. you took offense at a joke I started off with.. [19:16] you didn't make a joke [19:16] please show me the joke ? [19:17] you are tiring. [19:17] do you wish to resolve your ban in #ubuntu ? [19:18] as I'm confused at why you swore because I ticked you off, when your first line in the channel was to call your laptop a "bitch" before anyone had spoken to you [19:18] is that that big a deal for you? I have so little energy left in me for banter [19:18] ok, then lets leave it then and not bother [19:19] whats wrong with me calling my laptop a bitch .. actually i called it an over-sensitive bitch .. referring to the over sensitive touch pad i had [19:19] it's rude, it's not polite, people read the channel from all ages and backgrounds [19:19] I let it slide and asked you to tone it down [19:19] you then said "what the fuck is this !!!!" [19:19] so again, you come back with unacceptable language [19:20] after I'd already asked you to tone it down please. [19:21] ok, girl, listen to me.. if you ban me, i ll just rotate ips and come back with a different id.. but i dont troll channels and for sure i dont follow people and annoy the hell out of them even though you are not an ops in #debian [19:21] ok, then lets leave it here and you are banned [19:21] not really interesting in negotiating threats [19:22] please leave the channel [19:22] threats? [19:22] yes, you've just threatened to try to evade the ban [19:22] what is wrong with you? got out of the wrong side of the bed? [19:22] i'll make sure freenode staff are aware that you will use your account to break freenodes policy on bans [19:22] lets leave it there, [19:23] no i wont, i dont care much, am just an ordinary user trying to get his machine working.. and you just wasted so much of my time cos you do not understand a joke.. its people like you who freightens people away from linux.. [19:23] ok, sure [19:23] please leave the channel [19:25] it would actually be beneficial if you'd try to assume good faith and good intentions, avallark. We expect people to behave in a certain way, respectful, mature, clean and concise way. Foul language and name-calling of any kind isn't generally tolerated on any Ubuntu IRC channel. [19:26] see, you do not know me, i do not use foul language.. what she is complaining about was a joke.. [19:26] ask khmar [19:26] 20:26 < avallark> but now that i am working (mba shit) i needed to get my [19:27] considering you don't use foul language, you sure use it a lot [19:28] and who was offended by that? [19:28] me [19:28] avallark: the thing is, #ubuntu is a support channel, and since people come from different cultures, ages etc, such 'jokes' are often misinterpreted [19:28] and so we kindly ask people to refer making them [19:29] Myrtti: understood. That was a nice and polite way to make people understand. thank you. [19:31] on #ubuntu , i'd be careful. thanks [19:37] avallark: At this time the ban is going to stay in place. Please part this channel. [19:37] cool mate :) [19:37] how come you cant kick me out of this channel? [19:37] :D [19:38] Because I can ask you nicely. There is no reason to add to the problem by...nevermind [19:38] oh [19:38] sorry.. [19:38] Because I can ask you nicely. There is no reason to add to the problem by forcing you to leave [19:38] i just wanted to see what happens if i join #ubuntu [19:38] i see i end up here.. [19:38] sorry [19:39] chu: ^ ;( [19:39] ha ha ha [19:39] Oh man :( [19:39] I didn't want to say anything but LOL [19:39] Least he's not an #emacs'er [19:40] want I should let him know about the channel? [19:40] Damnit, he joined. [19:40] emacs has a channel? whatever for? [19:40] Oh well. [19:40] I swear it wasn't me [19:41] VIM I can understand... [19:41] troll detected ^ [19:41] :P [19:43] hello guys.. I just came in to have a word with ikonia [19:43] avallark: then you can send me a message [19:43] this channel isn't a chat channel [19:44] do you know how to chat a private chat? [19:44] if so please do [19:44] ???? [19:44] I'm not going to start a random private chat with you [19:44] avallark: either /msg nick or /query nick [19:45] ooh I see [19:45] you're asking how to do it [20:06] avallark: please /part the channel now [21:44] bit rot! [21:44] fresh install! [22:12] would someone consider speaking to nannes [22:13] his advice is a disaster and it's actually just random bad advice [22:13] I've pulled him up on it already so would rather someone else did this time [22:15] hey nannes [22:16] ikonia: what's wrong now? [22:16] I cannot express my opiunity?ut nions abo [22:16] I'd just really like you to consider the advice you're giving [22:16] *my opinions about unity [22:16] it's not really very well thought through and has more serious implications to peoples systems [22:17] if you could really think about what you are saying / advising before advising it and really try to help the user with their problem to a working solution, I'd very very much appreciate it [22:18] nannes: do you know what I'm refering to ? [22:18] that's what I'm doing [22:18] I know what you're refering to [22:18] you're really not [22:18] 23:06 < ubuntucrashes> hello all [22:18] 23:07 < ubuntucrashes> my ubuntu 12.04 lts freezes very freuently [22:18] 23:07 < nannes> ubuntucrashes: throw unity to the trash. Switch to another DE [22:19] please tell me how you worked out unity was the problem in under 20 seconds and advise him to drop unity to resolve his problem [22:20] yeah, that's right, maybe it was too quick. But just because I've been solving so many problems with users and spending so much time finding, at the end, that the problem was unity [22:20] sorry that's just nonsense [22:20] he's given no information, and you've just told him it's unity - dum pit [22:20] But after that, I asked him something to understand better his problem [22:20] you've not done any investigation [22:20] it's not good [22:20] it's not all black or white ikonia [22:21] read how I continued the support [22:21] it is black and white [22:21] you told him to remove unity with no reason or troubleshooting [22:21] in the same way you give this advice to someone [22:21] 18:58 < nannes> Gnjurac: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 [22:21] that's going to cause a conflict [22:21] you then give the correct URL [22:21] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System [22:21] but at that point the damage is done [22:22] he's already done the bad advice [22:22] that's why I'm asking you to stop - think, get the information and then make a reasonable comment to help the user [22:22] yeah [22:22] rather than this scatter gun random approach and then try to tidy up [22:22] it can't really continue like this, you're doing more harm than good. [22:23] if you don't know the answer, it's ok to not comment. [22:23] anyway, please read the rest: [22:23] (23:09:12) nannes: ubuntucrashes: so it happens only when browsing? [22:23] (23:09:35) ubuntucrashes: often yes [22:23] (23:10:03) nannes: what are the others situations it freezes, except while browsing the web? [22:23] I'm not interested in the rest [22:23] you've already done the damage [22:23] ikonia: ok I'm sorry I admit I exaggerated [22:23] it's not a problem [22:24] but believe me, there's a reason behind [22:24] I'm sorry there is no reason [22:24] anyway, I'll try to care more [22:24] you've just made up a problem - there is no reason for that [22:24] you just gave out terrible/dangerous instructions - there is no reason for that [22:24] but that would be great if you could apply more thought [22:24] it would be most welcome and appreciated [22:24] I've already answered [22:24] yes, and I'm confirming and thanking you [22:25] I can go now, see you. Hopefully not in this chan, cause it would mean something got wrong [22:25] not always [22:25] if you need something clarifying, just ask in here [22:25] @mark #ubuntu-ops nannes giving terrible / dangerous advice in #ubuntu, asked to stop and confirmed he would [22:25] The operation succeeded.