[00:44] <solstag> are mobile data connections working in recent releases? it doesn't seem so to me.
[01:35] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu edge/touch Laptop shell | http://askubuntu.com/q/325106
[02:04] <Noize> When will Ubuntu-touch or Ubuntu for Android run on the New Nexus 7?(eta)
[02:07] <crs353> rules dont ask for eta
[02:08] <Noize> lol ok fine :P
[02:08] <Noize> has Ubuntu for Android been released for community development ?
[02:11] <crs353> im not sure.
[02:13] <crs353> but back to your first question lol I will be one waiting eagerly also.
[02:16] <Noize> lol :P I really want to falsh to ubuntu for android or ubuntu touch, considering a lot of the dev has been on the n7, if i'm not mistaken
[02:24] <solstag> weird, mobile data doesn't work for me... it used to when rsalveti's manual recipe worked.
[02:42] <crocket> What languages will ubuntu phone apps be developed in?
[02:42] <crocket> Which ones can I choose?
[02:50] <Namidairo> (all of thems)
[02:51] <crocket> all of thems?
[02:51] <crocket> Can I even use haskell?
[02:52] <Namidairo> herp I thought you were talking about multilingual support
[02:52] <crocket> Namidairo, programming languages
[02:52] <solstag> lol
[02:53] <crocket> Can I develop an ubuntu app in japanese?
[02:53] <crocket> Oh sure
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> shoot I was hoping for klingon
[02:54] <solstag> Namidairo: I guess you'll be able to use any language that has the Qt stuff
[02:54] <Namidairo> :P
[03:15] <dcope> is it possible to change the system clock?
[03:15] <dcope> instead of only having london?
[03:18] <s1lence> Question about app navigation patterns: Would it be appropriate to use the header space for breadcrumbs instead of tabs to make deep navigation structures easier to navigate without constantly pulling up the toolbar?
[03:19] <s1lence> The lack of a way to do breadcrumbs seems to be hurting the file manager
[03:22] <dcope> no way to change the system clock seems like one of the first things that would be done for ubuntu touch
[03:24] <s1lence> dcope,  The settings app is still in progress. The functionality is slated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate#Phone
[03:24] <dcope> s1lence: thank you
[03:24] <s1lence> no problem
[03:24] <dcope> s1lence: how open are the maintainers to patches?
[03:25] <dcope> i wouldnt mind helping out contributing in any way i can
[03:25] <dcope> the contribute page just mentions source & bugs
[03:26] <dcope> oh nvm i see it now
[03:26] <dcope> derp :)
[03:26] <s1lence> dcope, try contacting Sebastien Bacher, he's  in charge of the settings app
[03:26] <s1lence> apparently
[03:27] <dcope> i've bookmarked his g+ profile, thank you :)
[03:28] <s1lence> no problem
[03:33] <s1lence> i guess london's asleep right now haha
[03:33] <dcope> yep, it's about 0433 there :D
[03:34] <s1lence> wrong time to direct questions at canonical design :3
[04:33] <xiangzhai83> Hi developers :)
[04:33] <xiangzhai83> I am a newbie of libmtdev
[04:35] <xiangzhai83> when I process the absolute motion event, there are duplicate ABS_MT_POSITION_X/Y
[04:57] <savagejen> Could ubuntu-touch run ontop of replicant instead of android?
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> savagejen, Isn't replicant android?
[05:03] <savagejen> essentially
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> savagejen, you better get on that then were waiting. ;)
[05:54] <crocket> Is anyone excited about ubuntu edge?
[09:02] <ogra_> stgraber, system-image.ubuntu.com seems to be down
[10:08] <purezen> Hey guys..! I am using an N7 16GB and want to install Ubuntu-touch on it..
[10:09] <purezen> I have unlocked the bootloader.. and have enabled and checked USB debug. on it..
[10:09] <purezen> However, when I finally boot into recoery mode to flash the images.. adb says 'error: device not found'..
[10:10] <purezen> Please help..!
[10:11] <crocket> Does anyone want to get ubunutu edge phone?
[10:15] <w-flo> purezen, I've never used it myself, but.. are you using the phablet-flash tool?
[10:16] <purezen> wflo: Hey..! Well.. I am just following the instructions for manual installation from here..
[10:16] <purezen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Installation
[10:17] <purezen> So, yes.. I have installed the phablet-flash tool.. but am not using it now...
[10:17] <w-flo> can you use adb in android?
[10:17] <purezen> well yes.. I could use it while it was running android..
[10:19] <w-flo> hmm.. purezen, maybe try "adb kill-server" and then try to "adb devices" again
[10:19] <purezen> well.. did it many times..
[10:19] <purezen> Also, fastboot does list my device..
[10:20] <w-flo> strange, I've never seen that. when you reboot into android, does it work again?
[10:21] <purezen> w-flo: Yes..
[10:22]  * w-flo shrugs.. there are a lot of canonical guys around here on work days, so maybe ask again on monday
[10:24] <purezen> w-flo: oh well.. though is there a way to do it using fastboot.. since it is detecting the device right now..
[10:25] <w-flo> purezen, I've only used fastboot once (to flash my custom recovery), I don't really know. I'm afraid it won't work, since the phablet-saucy-preinstalled.zip file has shell scripts in it that must be executed, and I guess fastboot can only copy images and doesn't support scripting?
[10:26] <purezen> w-flo: Oh well.. maybe.. am just a newbie..:-)
[10:26] <w-flo> and the system images have edify scripts as well, so.. not sure if fastboot supports that
[10:26] <purezen> hmm.. well..
[10:27] <w-flo> you could push the zip files using adb from android
[10:27] <w-flo> to some place in.. i dont know, /sdcard or whatever it is for the nexus7
[10:27] <crocket> Fund http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge and get an ubuntu phone
[10:28] <w-flo> and then go to recovery and select the files from /sdcard, if your recovery supports that :)
[10:28] <w-flo> purezen, ^
[10:28] <purezen> ok.. I shall try that..
[10:29] <purezen> Also, I have everything stock right now.. so should all this work (i.e. getting Ubuntu touch on my N7) in case I install a Custom recovery..?
[10:30] <w-flo> for me it works using a custom recovery (4ext), but this is not a nexus 7 and I'm not using the officially recommended phablet-flash tool
[10:30] <w-flo> I believe that phablet-flash will flash a custom ubuntu recovery
[10:31] <w-flo> maybe that's why it doesn't work for you? hum
[10:31] <gema> purezen: N7 is not visible to adb?
[10:31] <gema> purezen: what happens when you run adb devices
[10:31] <purezen> w-flo: Maybe..
[10:32] <purezen> gema: I can find my device via adb when running android..
[10:32] <purezen> gema: though not in recovery or bootloader mode..
[10:32] <gema> purezen: why aren't you using phablet-flash?
[10:33] <purezen> gema: Oh that.. cause I have a miserable net connection (slow and discon. now and then)..
[10:33] <purezen> gema: So, I downloaded the images using a download manager..
[10:35] <gema> purezen: it's been a long while since I have tried to adb manually without phablet-flash, but my mako is not visible either when in recovery
[10:36] <gema> purezen: sorry, it is visible in recovery
[10:37] <purezen> gema: Ok..
[10:37] <gema> but not on the start screen
[10:37] <gema> when I press power and volume down
[10:37] <gema> purezen: the best people to help you with that will be here either later in the day or monday after midday
[10:38] <gema> (UTC)
[10:38] <gema> purezen: or you could try the mailing
[10:38] <purezen> gema: well.. sure..:-)
[10:39] <gema> purezen: unfortunately
[10:39] <gema> I have to go now
[10:39] <purezen> gema: Sure.. goodbye..:-)
[10:40] <w-flo> purezen, if you're adventurous, try a custom recovery and see if it supports adb. or just transfer the files from android, then flash from recovery (if the stock recovery supports selecting arbitrary files from the file system)
[10:40] <purezen> w-flo: Hmm.. thanks..! On it..
[10:41]  * w-flo crosses fingers
[10:50] <purezen> w-flo: looks like the stock  recovery doesn't support the file seletion stuf..
[10:50] <crocket> I just funded ubuntu edge $805.
[10:50] <w-flo> purezen, :(
[10:50] <purezen> w-flo: Shall try it with a custom recovery..
[10:51] <purezen> w-flo: No probs..:-)
[10:51] <w-flo> purezen, good luck ! :)
[10:51] <purezen> w-flo: :-)
[11:29] <w-flo> Fetched 23.2 MB in 12255d 22h 21min 57s (0 B/s)                <--- haha, thanks for correcting my time, ntp :-)
[11:29] <purezen_> w-flo: hey.. tried it with CWM.. boots regular android..!
[11:29] <w-flo> purezen_, so does adb work in CWM?
[11:30] <purezen_> w-flo, yep.. adb does work..
[11:30] <w-flo> so.. happy flashing? :)
[11:31] <purezen_> w-flo: No, it just boots regular android again.. though it did some install stuff with the ubuntu image..
[11:32] <purezen_> w-flo: and it has installed stock recovery yet again..
[11:32] <w-flo> take a backup, then wipe/format the /system and /data partitions, then flash both, the ~340mb "preinstalled-armhf" zip file, and the zip file specific to the nexus 7
[11:32] <w-flo> huh, stock recovery? that's strange. where did it come from? :o
[11:34] <w-flo> or just wait until monday and ask how to use phablet-flash with local files
[11:35] <ogra_> purezen_, wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img ... boot into bootloader mode (holding both vol keys on power up) ... sudo fastboot flash /path/to/downloaded/saucy-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img ...  then reboot into recovery mode
[11:36] <ogra_> from there the manual instructions should just work
[11:37] <AskUbuntu> Pls explain the media architecture of ubuntu touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/325258
[12:03] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu For Smartphones | http://askubuntu.com/q/325260
[12:13] <purezen_> w-flo, ogra_ shall follow..
[12:14] <w-flo> purezen_, ogra has ubuntu touch expert knowledge, so I'm sure it will work that way :)
[12:15] <purezen_> w-flo: Oh.. that's great..!
[12:20] <gema> yah, if ogra_ cannot make it work,  then we start getting concerned :)
[12:21] <iBelieve> Is the System Settings app going to get a Suru theme or a dark background? Currently, it isn't themed, and the designs released on design.canonical.com have a light background, but I'm assuming those are just wireframes.
[12:21] <w-flo> I'm actually reading through old ubuntu-touch logs right now (from may) to find out how ogra fixed "cant find eglconfig" on his flipped image :D
[12:22] <ogra_> :)
[12:31] <purezen_> Well.. I was able to install the recovery fine this time..
[12:31] <purezen_> and I flashed the 'armhf.zip' as well..
[12:31] <purezen_> though it restarted with android again..
[12:32] <purezen_> Do I need to disable resetting the recovery to stock which the Ubuntu recovery asks for after installing the arhf.zip file..?
[12:33] <ogra_> you need to flash the armel+grouper.zip first (like the manual instructions say)
[12:33] <ogra_> after that is done, reboot into recovery again and *then* flash the armhf.zip
[12:44] <purezen_> ogra_, I am able to flash the armhf.zip in the Ubuntu recovery.. but it somehow reboots with android...
[12:45] <purezen_> Something I need to do with wiping data..?
[12:45] <ogra_> you need to flash the armel+grouper.zip first (like the manual instructions say)
[12:45] <ogra_> after that is done, reboot into recovery again and *then* flash the armhf.zip
[12:45] <ogra_> :)
[12:45] <gema> purezen_: it seems you are doing it in the wrong order
[12:45]  * ogra_ points to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Installation again
[12:46] <ogra_> it is two files ...  not just the armhf one
[12:46] <w-flo> so.. yet another question, is getprop supposed to work in the android container?
[12:47] <ogra_> not wif you are chrooted via the android-chroot script ...
[12:47] <ogra_> it is supported from the ubuntu rootfs
[12:47] <w-flo> okay, so that's not my problem :) somehow the sensor service doesn't start
[12:47] <w-flo> yeah, it works in the ubuntu rootfs
[12:47] <ogra_> check if /factrory is mounted
[12:47] <ogra_> *factory
[12:48] <ogra_> (though thats unlikely since that operates based on labels too)
[12:48] <w-flo> ogra_, no, it's not. I'm not sure if my device even has that partition (or is that some ubuntu magic?)
[12:48] <purezen_> ok.. so do I need to install the grouper.img as well..? or shall I just boot into recovery again..
[12:48] <w-flo> i.e. I have no /vendor partition, its a /vendor -> /system/vendor symlink
[12:49] <w-flo> I've changed the lxc-android-boot init script accordingly
[12:54] <ogra_> purezen_, read thew manual install instructuions
[12:54] <ogra_> no more img files needed
[12:54] <ogra_> juet the two zips
[12:55] <ogra_> w-flo, vendor is fine
[12:56] <w-flo> my init.rc has "service sensorservice /system/bin/sensorservice".. should "ps" show sensorservice as running in the android container? somehow it's not :o
[12:56] <ogra_> w-flo, use android-chroot to chroot into the container and see what happens if you start the sensorservice manually
[12:56] <ogra_> ps should show it
[12:57] <w-flo> okay.. so when manually starting it within androd-chroot, it's still not in ps of the container, only in "ps aux" of the ubuntu rootfs
[12:57] <ogra_> yeah, butt thats fine
[12:57] <w-flo> the good thing is, logcat stops complaining about "waiting for sensorservice"
[12:57] <w-flo> so that seems fine. now i'm wondering why it isn't started by android init
[12:57] <ogra_> does the UI session start ?
[12:58] <ogra_> because something accesses a sensor before the service is up
[12:58] <ogra_> so it cant attach
[12:58] <w-flo> Cant find EGLConfig, returning null config
[12:58] <w-flo> W/libEGL  ( 3587): eglInitialize(0x1) failed (EGL_SUCCESS)
[12:58] <ogra_> thats fine
[12:58] <w-flo> W/Adreno200-EGL( 3587): <qeglDrvAPI_eglChooseConfig:594>: EGL_NOT_INITIALIZED
[12:58] <ogra_> that not :)
[12:59] <ogra_> the EGLConfig warning isnt fatal ... the rest is
[12:59] <w-flo> ahh
[12:59] <w-flo> might be a permission problem
[12:59] <w-flo> E/Adreno200-GSL( 3587): <ioctl_kgsl_driver_entry:268>: open(/dev/kgsl-3d0) failed: errno 13. Permission denied
[12:59] <ogra_> yeah
[12:59] <ogra_> you will need a udev rule
[12:59] <w-flo> is that for the vision-70.rules file?
[12:59] <w-flo> okay
[13:00] <ogra_> have a look at the initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch package
[13:00] <w-flo> I think I've seen those
[13:00] <ogra_> it ships the ones for the nexus devices
[13:00] <w-flo> just need to figure out how to use them :)
[13:00] <ogra_> you dont want to use them
[13:00] <ogra_> you want to create one fo your device, derived from ueventd.rc from the container
[13:01] <w-flo> okay, will do, thanks so far :)
[13:02] <ogra_> should be relatively straightforward to see what you need from there if you look at one of the nexus ones
[13:04] <w-flo> yeah, seems like a scriptable task
[13:05] <ogra_> yeah, i once started a script but then something else came in my way
[13:05] <batmite> does the ubuntu touch project accept donations of any amount?
[13:05] <ogra_> it is a relatively simple sed task ... but you need to ignore the sysfs mangline stuff
[13:06] <ogra_> batmite, the best you coudl do if you want to donate to something bringing the project forward would be http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[13:08] <batmite> ogra_: thanks
[13:20] <w-flo> crw-rw-rw- root     root     242,   0 2013-07-27 13:14 kgsl-3d0    open(/dev/kgsl-3d0) failed: errno 13. Permission denied      ... I've converted the ueventd.vision.rc file to 70-vision.rules and it seems like the permissions are now world-readable.. but it still fails with permission denied? hm..
[13:22] <w-flo> ah
[13:23]  * w-flo fixes things
[13:27] <w-flo> so that works now, yay :)
[13:32] <ogra_> :)
[13:33] <w-flo> now I'm getting "W/Adreno200-EGL( 3379): <qeglDrvAPI_eglSwapInterval:3645>: EGL_BAD_CONTEXT" which doesn't sound right...
[14:15] <w-flo> so maliit-server and unity8 keep on segfaulting apparently. :o
[14:17] <crashs> hello everyone, i'am french so my english is not very acceptable but i want to know when we will have the chance to have ubuntu touch on the htc desire hd ( ace), someone have information to share with me ^^
[14:32] <vic> QUERY: Anyone out there is able to do a re-build of kernel for Nexus Galaxy phone(tuna) and able to boot?
[14:38] <rigved> hi everyone
[14:39] <rigved> i am using "adb shell system-image-cli" to update my nexus 7. but it's not working. i am getting this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5918521/ . can someone help diagnose the error?
[15:07] <rigved> well, i filed this bug for this issue: #1205657
[15:08] <rigved> bug #1205657
[15:51] <stgraber> ogra_: yep, slangasek filed an RT about it. Apparently the server just died completely, we need to get someone in the DC to investigate...
[16:02] <Tassadar_> ooh, there's a game between coreapps, niice
[16:02]  * Tassadar_ is playing "Dropping letters" and is amazed
[16:55] <GeniusWork> Hi ALl
[16:56] <GeniusWork> build/core/envsetup.mk:115: build/core/product_config.mk: No such file or directory build/core/config.mk:153: *** No config file found for TARGET_DEVICE .  Stop.  ** Don't have a product spec for: 'cm_yuga' ** Do you have the right repo manifest?
[16:56] <GeniusWork> How can that be fixed??
[17:38] <sidiney> Olá!
[17:38] <sidiney> hI!
[17:43] <user82> hi sidiney
[17:44] <sidiney> hi, i had a problem in qtcreator,
[17:45] <sidiney> resolve! heheh!
[17:46] <sidiney> i want development apps for ubuntu touch, but have any doubs, read the foruns, but a live chat help=me more!
[18:03] <slangasek> ogra_, stgraber: system-image seems to be back up today
[18:22] <danpalmer> Hi there, is this the best place to talk about QML development for Ubuntu Touch or is there a development specific channel?
[18:26] <w-flo> danpalmer, there is a development specific channel. But I forgot the name.. :D
[18:29] <w-flo> ah, #ubuntu-app-devel ?
[18:29] <danpalmer> w-flo: cheers, thanks!
[18:35] <RobbyF> you guys think the Oppo Find 5 resembles the Ubuntu Edge in appearance ?
[19:14] <nicenslow> Hey alma !
[19:15] <nicenslow> almaidinajad   ! ! !
[19:15] <nicenslow> WTF
[19:15] <nicenslow> long name man
[19:32] <almaidinajad> hi nicenslow
[20:28] <mhall119> RobbyF: there's only so much variation you can do with a black rectangle
[20:31] <w-flo> hm, something is probably wrong with the accelerometer in my port. the first param to ua_sensors_accelerometer_set_reading_cb is NULL and then things crash. sigh :)
[21:07] <AskUbuntu> actionSelectionPopover only displays properly on selectedTabIndex == 0 | http://askubuntu.com/q/325421
[21:10] <Shaikh> hellooo
[21:11] <Shaikh> anyone knows how to install Ubuntu on Lenovo A706?
[21:16] <Shaikh> is anyone knows how to install Ubuntu on Lenovo A706?
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> Shaikh, All the install stuff is in the channel header.
[22:11] <Catbuntu> Yes it does
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> Catbuntu, user long gone
[22:12] <Catbuntu> haha
[22:12] <Catbuntu> You have to be at -offtopic to understand me
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> I avoid the offtopic like the plague. ;)
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> I can volunteer at the mentally disabled local if I need that stimulus
[23:57] <AskUbuntu> Nexus 7 2 - google factory images | http://askubuntu.com/q/325456