[00:01] <superfly> micadeyeye_: you need to contact TENET
[00:01] <superfly> and apart from weirdos like me, everyone else is sleeping at a quarter to 1 am
[00:03] <micadeyeye_> lol
[00:04] <micadeyeye_> thanks
[05:47] <Squirm> mornign
[05:48] <Squirm> superfly: not everyone was sleeping at 2
[05:49] <nlsthzn> *yawn*
[06:06] <Squirm> indeed
[06:06] <Squirm> I hope there is still food in the dining room
[06:36] <Kilos> hi micadeyeye_ 
[06:36] <Kilos> morning all
[06:37] <Kilos> lo dreen
[06:44] <Squirm> morning
[06:45] <Kilos> hi Squirm captine 
[06:45] <captine> morning
[06:45] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[06:46] <captine> thnx Kilos.
[06:46] <captine> is this channel used actively or primarily for the LUG events?
[06:47] <captine> am new to the LOCO concept etc..
[06:47] <captine> (am even mixing LOCO and LUG up)
[06:47] <Kilos> dunno what happened here but was typing your welcome and half went to pm
[06:47] <Squirm> captine: it's an active channel
[06:47] <Kilos> this is our help channel
[06:47] <Squirm> Official Ubuntu channel of ZA
[06:47] <Kilos> help with all linux systems
[06:48] <Squirm> I know the Gauteng LUG is at #glug.za, but most of the guys are here anyway
[06:48] <Kilos> we also just chat sometimes too
[06:48] <Squirm> Kilos: a lot of the time :P
[06:48] <captine> nice
[06:48] <Kilos> hehe
[06:48] <Kilos> its our family channel
[06:49] <Squirm> but yes, if there is a question to be asked, just ask it and someone would be likely to respond
[06:49] <captine> how long have you all been using linux?  I just moved back to ZA from Philippines and "converted" my personal machine to ubuntu there… but it is in a container so i am on a macbook now
[06:49] <Kilos> hmm...
[06:49] <captine> Kilos: no worries on the PM.  Things are ok.. cold, but ok
[06:50] <Kilos> cold here too. you in the tvl?
[06:50] <captine> Jhb
[06:50] <Kilos> ive been on ubuntu since 8.10
[06:51] <Kilos> yeah winter up here sucks
[06:51] <magespawn> good morning
[06:51] <Squirm> Kilos: you know what it's like down here :/
[06:51] <Squirm> and then there's magespawn who probably dies of heat daily
[06:51] <Kilos> yeah i know mooiriver squirm
[06:52] <magespawn> not in winter, but still walking around in shorts and a t-shirt
[06:52] <Kilos> i loved hluhluwe
[06:52] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[06:52] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[06:52] <Squirm> magespawn: ...
[06:52] <Kilos> magespawn, try 2 tracksuits and a big sheepskin jacket
[06:52] <Squirm> you suck
[06:53] <magespawn> had the aircon on yesterday
[06:53] <captine> that was me in Philippines.  8am in "winter" and it was 30 degrees
[06:53] <Squirm> ...
[06:53] <captine> loved it
[06:53] <Squirm> 8am in winter and it's close to 0
[06:56] <magespawn> i like cold weather too, so i am easy to please most of the time
[06:56] <captine> am not a fan.  although running zircon 24/7 is pricey in the heat
[06:57] <magespawn> captine a bit of a change the jhb temps then
[06:57] <captine> yip.  what a terrible time to move back
[06:57] <captine> :)
[06:57] <Kilos> hehe
[06:59] <Kilos> i go feed sheep
[06:59] <captine> sheep
[06:59] <captine> fun
[07:00] <Kilos> stupid animals only good as chops
[07:01] <magespawn> anybody have any problems from the ubuntu forums hack?
[07:03] <captine> i don't think i had an account and if i did, i cannot remember
[07:03] <captine> but didn't receive an email and heard they were sending mails to each person with an account… or am i wrong
[07:03] <magespawn> looks like they will be up and running in the next couple of days
[07:04] <magespawn> not sure, i think i got one
[07:08] <captine> do any of you use ubuntu for business?  and if so, what business / applications
[07:09] <captine> I am an accountant and starting a new job on Monday in a company looking to rollout new BI tools etc.  They just signed with Microsoft for Exchange etc, as they were running some old system before
[07:09] <captine> and i am hoping to influence in the way of open source ;)
[07:10] <magespawn> i run an internet cafe and pc shop, most of my computers run a version of ubuntu
[07:11] <magespawn> i think there are a couple of the others doing work only on linux
[07:11] <captine> nice.  I was looking to buy a small PC business that was for sale, but broker hasn't gotten back to me
[07:12] <captine> magespawn: are there any linux specific PC vendors in SA like System 76?  they didn't seem too keen to expand shipping to SA
[07:12] <captine> and I am tired of fighting with hardware on laptops
[07:13] <magespawn> i have not seen any, dell has just brought out a ultrabook developed for ubuntu from the start
[07:13] <captine> saw that
[07:14] <magespawn> ironically sa is still very windows focused
[07:15] <captine> yes.  we are used to paying and lock in
[07:15] <captine> seems lots of people are jumping on the mac train too
[07:17] <magespawn> yup linux is still in the dark area of computers for most people
[07:17] <magespawn> i have some who are highly suspicious of something that is free
[07:18] <captine> yip.  
[07:19] <captine> so do you use some sort of squid setup at the cafe for the internet access timing?  or manually monitor how long people have been online?
[07:20]  * not_found is playing with the beta ubuntu touch sdk... pity I am not a dev because it looks pretty awesome :)
[07:22] <captine> not_found: all these cool looking things make me want to be a dev too
[07:23] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[07:23] <not_found> yup
[07:23] <not_found> alo uncle Kilos 
[07:24] <not_found> *sigh* come now interwebs or is the issue flash player... grrr...
[07:31] <magespawn> captine, manually at the moment, most of the business income is through repairs etc of pc, internet, faxes, photocopies etc just a way to bring extra money
[07:32] <captine> magespawn: do you do second hand equipment (1U rack's etc)
[07:35] <magespawn> no i work mainly on small business and home pc
[07:37] <magespawn> if you search G&C Net, Hluhluwe in google maps you will see my shop
[07:38] <captine> nice
[07:38] <captine> might come to you for some help should i get the store up here in JHB… :)
[07:40] <magespawn> np
[08:07] <magespawn> captine what sort of business is it? repairs etc or more business type services?
[08:07] <captine> the one for sale is a small shop with internet cafe
[08:09] <magespawn> ahh so very similar to what i am doing here
[08:29] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[08:32] <captine> possibly.  I would want to grow the small business support side
[08:33] <captine> get some contracts etc in place
[08:33] <captine> but will see.  
[08:33] <captine> have contacted the broker but am waiting to hear back in terms of the details I asked.  
[08:38] <magespawn> since when do youtube videos have ads in the middle?
[08:39] <magespawn> it is just like watching sabc now
[08:43] <Kilos> lol
[08:45] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[08:45] <mazal> More oom
[08:45] <mazal> Besig met my 12.04 install
[08:46] <Kilos> kde?
[08:46] <mazal> Updates drame klaar , nou moet ek die apps bysit wat ek nodig
[08:46] <mazal> Nee , Ubuntu
[08:46] <mazal> " recovery install " en terselfertyd vir die apps wat nie werk in 13.04 nie
[08:47] <Kilos> ai!
[08:48] <mazal> And now ubuntu forums is down. Now I don't know how to get the command for multimedia support :-(
[08:48] <mazal> There is a thread there for multimedia support install I always use
[08:48] <mazal> Isn't sessentials something ?
[08:48] <mazal> essentials even ?
[08:49] <mazal> No wait , restricted-extras ?
[08:49] <Kilos> once youve installed you can get that in synaptic or software centre
[08:50] <Kilos> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:50] <mazal> I know , but I can't remember all the package names
[08:50] <mazal> And there is stuff for dvd support also that I can't remember the name
[08:50] <Kilos> where is your dejadup?
[08:51] <Kilos> didnt you backup it before
[08:51] <Kilos> back it up
[08:52] <mazal> I have the app names in a doc , must just find that in all these partitions now lol
[08:52] <Kilos> lol
[08:52] <mazal> Think it's libdvdread or dvdnav4 or something
[08:52] <mazal> All these stuff is in one command that thread I always use
[08:52] <Kilos> i have the same prob with 3 drives in here and each with its own partitions
[08:54] <mazal> This is why I hate a pure new install. So many things you need to add to make it work :(
[08:54] <Kilos> hehe
[08:55] <Kilos> where is your remastersys dvd
[08:56] <mazal> My 12.04 one doesn't want to boot mos remember. Grey screen
[08:56] <Kilos> ai!
[08:56] <mazal> Probably a drivers thing , although drivers is not supposed to be included in iso
[08:57] <mazal> This one not gonna install any screen drivers and make new iso
[08:57] <mazal> IF remastersys is still installable that is
[08:58] <mazal> Still nothing going on at the guys that took it over
[08:58] <Kilos> my 12.04 dvd works fine
[08:59] <mazal> I think he took down his repositories , if that be the case I don't know how I'm going to install it ?
[09:00] <Kilos> dont you have the package anywhere
[09:02] <Kilos> i only see 2 packages for it remastersys and remastersys-gui
[09:02] <Kilos> can send to you and you can install them with gdebi maybe
[09:02] <mazal> debs might be in my apt-cache backup
[09:02] <mazal> Will look
[09:03] <mazal> How do I enable mediubuntu repositories ?
[09:04] <mazal> Another thing I need that was in that thread :(
[09:04] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to add medibuntu to 12.04
[09:04] <Maaz> Kilos: "How to add Medibuntu repository in Ubuntu 12.04 Precise pangolin ..." http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-add-medibuntu-repository-in-ubuntu-via-terminal-and-gui/ :: "Medibuntu repositories available for Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail ..." http://www.unixmen.com/medibuntu-repositories-available-for-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-ppa/ :: "Enable Medibuntu
[09:04] <Maaz> Repository and Install Multimedia Codecs in ..." http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/enable-medi…
[09:04] <Kilos> its a long command
[09:04] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[09:07] <mazal> Found ta oom
[09:08] <Kilos> dont forget to do the next command as well to add hooks
[09:09] <mazal> hooks ?
[09:09] <mazal> The command that allows those apps to show in software centre ?
[09:09] <Kilos> ya
[09:10] <Kilos>  sudo apt-get install app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu - See more at: http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-add-medibuntu-repository-in-ubuntu-via-terminal-and-gui/#sthash.ybomX2YM.dpuf
[09:10] <Kilos> ai
[09:11] <Kilos> i cant copy paste it here
[09:11] <Kilos> grrr
[09:11] <mazal> I see it on the site , is ok
[09:11] <Kilos> cool
[09:12] <mazal> But still waiting for restricted-extras do dl and install **sigh**
[09:12] <Kilos> i wonder why copy paste dont work properly
[09:12] <Kilos> hehe
[09:12] <Vince-0> Gday Kilos
[09:13] <mazal> MOrning Vince-0 
[09:14] <Vince-0> Gday mazal
[09:19] <Vince-0> So I've been trying to get hold of the universities here in KZN regarding a free software talk - and nothing
[09:19] <Vince-0> not a peep
[09:21] <Kilos> eish
[09:24] <mazal> Ok I THINK that is enabled and installed
[09:25] <magespawn> Vince-0, do none of the dlug guys have contacts?
[09:25] <Vince-0> ya I got contacts for the compsci dept peeps
[09:25] <Vince-0> Emailed, called etc
[09:26] <magespawn> yoh, and no reaction? maybe they are all busy with exams or something
[09:26] <Vince-0> who knows
[09:26] <mazal> "unable to locate package synaptec" Anybody can help me with the correct name please ?
[09:27] <magespawn> for sfd?
[09:27] <Vince-0> uh, something bigger than sfd
[09:28] <magespawn> what did you have in mind?
[09:28] <Vince-0> I'm not sure if I can say just yet but RMS is planning a trip to SA
[09:28] <magespawn> wow that would be interesting
[09:28] <Vince-0> yep, so keen - I want to even fly to cpt or something to hear it
[09:30] <magespawn> are there any details yet?
[09:30] <Vince-0> not that I know - only that the dates are in September
[09:31] <Vince-0> there really does need to be publicity so I'm trying to find out the details so I can spread the word
[09:31] <magespawn> sfd is in September
[09:38] <magespawn> would be awesome if the two events happened at the same time, even close together would be nice
[09:39] <magespawn> Vince-0, how did you find out?
[09:39] <Vince-0> I was contacted by some guys in Jo'burg
[09:42] <Vince-0> as soon as there is concrete info I will ask to send it around asap
[09:42] <magespawn> well as soon as there is more info available, i am sure we can help with the publicity
[09:42] <Vince-0> time is running out
[09:42] <magespawn> indeed, it always does espicailly when you have to work for money
[09:43] <magespawn> especially 
[09:53] <captine> cheers all
[09:59] <mazal> gotta reboot
[09:59] <Kilos> yay at last
[10:17] <Kilos> yo Dreen 
[11:12] <magespawn> later all
[11:13] <Kilos> later magespawn 
[11:13] <Kilos> wbb
[13:20] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[13:20] <superfly> hi Kilos
[14:26] <nlsthzn> Nou die Blou!
[14:26] <nlsthzn> :p
[14:26] <nlsthzn> hiya all :)
[14:27] <psychicist> hi nlsthzn 
[14:29] <nlsthzn> seems
[14:29] <nlsthzn> I chased uncle Kilos away
[14:29] <nlsthzn> how are you psychicist
[14:29] <nlsthzn> ?
[14:30] <psychicist> I am doing fine nlsthzn 
[14:30] <psychicist> hehe
[14:30] <nlsthzn> not seen you on this channel before psychicist, welcome :)
[14:30] <psychicist> how are you
[14:30] <psychicist> you have :)
[14:31] <psychicist> I am normally known as psydroid (on mobile) or psyatw (at work), but this is my original nick
[14:34] <nlsthzn> ah ok :p was thinking it might be something like that :)
[14:34] <nlsthzn> I've only seen you on your mobile :)
[14:35] <psychicist> :D
[14:36] <psychicist> sometimes I'm too tired to switch on this laptop in the evening, but now it's weekend and I want to use a full-fledged operating system instead of a tablet or phone experience
[14:47] <nlsthzn> Seems you need Ubuntu Edge... then you have both :p
[14:47] <psychicist> hahaha
[14:48] <psychicist> yeah, maybe :D
[14:48] <psychicist> I will check it out
[14:48] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[14:48] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[14:49] <psychicist> the hardware is definitely becoming powerful enough for it
[14:52] <Kilos> you gonna watch nlsthzn 
[14:52] <nlsthzn> @work so going to read...
[14:52] <Kilos> ai!
[14:55] <nlsthzn> oh well :)
[15:52] <Kilos> bulls struggling some nlsthzn 
[15:52] <Kilos> 1/2 time and behind by 16/11
[15:52] <nlsthzn> yup, following it online
[15:53] <Kilos> ah
[15:53] <nlsthzn> reading rugby better than nothing :)
[15:53] <nlsthzn> but thanks uncle Kilos :)
[15:53] <Kilos> and morne got his boots on wrong feet
[15:53] <Kilos> yw
[15:53] <nlsthzn> hmmm... I guess his head already over-seas too...
[15:54] <Kilos> not if he carries on like this
[15:57] <nlsthzn> contract is signed and money is in the bank (so to speak)...
[15:57] <Kilos> oh you mean he is gonna play overseas
[15:57] <Kilos> next year?
[15:58] <nlsthzn> AFAIK yes...
[16:01] <nlsthzn> Now to see if the Bulls truly are unbeatable at Fortress Loftus!!
[16:01] <Kilos> oh my then the bulls are gonna battle
[16:06] <smile4ever> hi :)
[16:07] <Kilos> hi smile4ever 
[16:07] <smile4ever> how are you? :)
[16:29] <Kilos> good ty and you smile4ever ? sorry im watching rugby as well
[16:36] <smile4ever> don't worry :D
[16:36] <smile4ever> I'm fine too
[16:36] <smile4ever> :)
[16:36] <Kilos> hehe
[16:50] <nlsthzn> ugh...
[16:50] <nlsthzn> bbl
[18:31] <smile4ever> bye :)
[19:09] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[23:13] <kbmonkey> morning o/
[23:18] <nlsthzn> alo