[00:02] <ubuntivity> I'll do the same, then. lonewulf85
[00:02] <lonewulf85> I have this from my /etc/fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916628/ when I start my system says failed to find swap  press m to manually retrieve or s to skip. Any ideas
[00:04] <ubuntivity> What do you get on "mount"? Is your swap listed there with the same UUID?
[00:05] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, My mnt folder is empty.
[00:06] <ubuntivity> what about the output of "mount" in terminal?
[00:07] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916639/
[00:08] <lonewulf85> So no swap there.
[00:09] <Celerity_Linuxx_> what happens when I intsall multiple kernels with different arch's
[00:09] <Celerity_Linuxx_> ?
[00:09] <lonewulf85> Celeriy_Linuxx_, Windows lol no but it could cause some instability.
[00:10] <lauratika> i change the name of my pc and now everytime im using terminal get this message sudo: unable to resolve host RLAB
[00:11] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, That issue with my swap is the only part of my load that is slow.
[00:11] <Celerity_Linuxx_> lonewulf85: what is the worst case scenerio? I am trying to make my own distrobution based off debian and you guys are the closest I've got
[00:11] <ubuntivity> lonewulf85: it seems that "mount" isn't showing swap here too :/  Would you try Disk Utility to see if your swap exists on sda5?
[00:12] <lonewulf85> Celerity_Linuxx_, I have never attempted my own distro but there could be some stability issues, I would try to google making my own distro. that might have some good information on it.
[00:12] <Celerity_Linuxx_> I've done that
[00:13] <Celerity_Linuxx_> not much help, google is on this.
[00:15] <LinXNut> Hey guys has anyone installed Itunes on 64-bit Ubuntu? I can't seem to get it to work.
[00:15] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, where my pointer is is where is should be http://picpaste.com/upload.php
[00:15] <rypervenche> LinXNut: I would use something else.
[00:15] <LinXNut> Oh sweet I can use something else?
[00:16] <rypervenche> LinXNut: Sure, there are plenty of alternatives. I'm not the guy to give you a list though, I use a music player that uses the terminal only.
[00:16] <ubuntivity> lonewulf85: I didn't get your image, only a picture-upload site :|
[00:16] <LinXNut> Oh. Okay no worries! I'll google some stuff lol
[00:19] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, My bad here http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-07-26_18_13_25-QK8pX4Y5.png
[00:20] <ubuntivity> lonewulf85: never mind, can you click on that 4GB partition and show me its details please?
[00:20] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, one sec
[00:22] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-07-26_18_21_15-8wqW4Pdp.png
[00:23] <ubuntivity> It seems correct as it is sda5, but I've just noticed that the swap line in your /etc/fstab is commented with a #, were you the one who did that on purpose??
[00:24] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, not that I can remember.
[00:24] <ubuntivity> Or in fact I see there are apparently two swap lines, the first one (which is supposedly made during installation) is commented.
[00:24] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, So just delete the # and all is good right?
[00:25] <ubuntivity> Can't confirm that 100%, I need to find out what is cryptswap first (so as not to cause some sort of conflict)
[00:25] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, yeah the error is about swapt1
[00:26] <ubuntivity> It seems that you have activated an encrypted swap at some point of time, does that make sense for you?
[00:27] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, Maybe when I told my system to encrypt my home partion during installation?
[00:27] <ubuntivity> I believe you should uncomment the first swap line, and comment the second swap line that starts with /dev/mapper/...
[00:28] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, alright I will try that thanks.
[00:28] <ubuntivity> But before rebooting, expect the worse cases which might require you to boot into command line and restore the file to its previous condition! (I'm obsessive, I know)
[00:29] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, yeah but very helpful thanks. gtg /quit
[00:30] <ubuntivity> I've found a page that might also help you, its about encrypted swap http://www.logilab.org/blogentry/29155
[00:30] <ubuntivity> You are welcome, lonewulf85 :)
[00:57] <kaffien> so my brilliant friends mother removed ubuntu unity on her toughbook.
[00:57] <kaffien> i reinstalled  it but its still giving me low graphics mode
[00:58] <kaffien> i wonder if it took out the xorg.conf or something
[00:58] <ubuntivity> Can you login in Unity 3D mode?
[00:58] <kaffien> i cant login at all i get an error before the login screen .... one sec
[00:59] <reisio> removed?
[00:59] <kaffien> the system is running in low-graphics mode, your screen graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected.
[00:59] <kaffien> she removed unity and whatever disappears with it
[00:59] <kaffien> i reinstalled unity but something is not right still getting the same error
[00:59] <reisio> kaffien: did you reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[01:00] <reisio> that would be the fairly comprehensive way
[01:01] <kaffien> nope but i might try that ... i have a intel mobile 4 series chipset.  would that require special drivers?
[01:02] <reisio> nope
[01:02] <kaffien> back in a bit i need the ethernet cord
[01:02] <reisio> unless you have an intel _and_ another device from ati or nvidia
[01:13] <savagejen> Can anyone tell me what could cause this to show up in dmesg? ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000000428-0x000000000000042f SystemIO conflicts with Region \PMIO 1 (20121018/utaddress-251)
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> ACPI bios issues. :() can be very hard to track down. often theres kernel boot options to work around them
[01:23] <cmck193> hello all
[01:24] <bejker> hi
[01:24] <cmck193> i'm installing xubuntu :)
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> egads!
[01:25] <bejker> nice u install ubuntu ;]
[01:25] <cmck193> not the first time, but i think i'm going to attempt a permanent switch from windoze
[01:26] <bejker> i try
[01:26] <bejker> and something its fuckd up
[01:27] <IdleOne> !langauge
[01:42] <zivester> is there a command to raise/lower system volume?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> alsa* type commands like alsamixer, or alsaconf or alsactrl perhaps
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> alsa
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> alsa       alsactl    alsaloop   alsamixer  alsaucm
[01:43] <squelch> so ubuntu vs gentoo?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> squelch:  try them both. and decide for yourself
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> thats like compareing a  Build it your self home kit. vs a Prefab home.
[01:43] <squelch> indeed
[01:43] <IdleOne> !polls | squelch
[01:43] <squelch> so usability. ubuntu
[01:44] <zivester> alsamixer, awesome
[01:44] <squelch> cheers
[01:44] <Neroon> Hi! Can anyone tell me why fdisk -l shows"does not start on physical sector boundary" although it starts at sector 2048?
[01:45] <reisio> Neroon: different strokes for different... disks
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> 2048 may not be a physical boundry. of course fdisk is getting a little of date in ways. Why does it matter?
[01:45] <Neroon> reisio: what?
[01:45] <reisio> use parted if you want to avoid stuff like that
[01:46] <moondog> did I miss something, or does the latest LTS release of ubuntu not handle installation onto an LVM partition?
[01:46] <zivester> is there a way to wake up a screen from command line?
[01:46] <Neroon> reisio: I did partition it with parted
[01:46] <reisio> zivester: yeah
[01:47] <reisio> Neroon: then you're all set
[01:47] <reisio> Neroon: sorry, actually :)
[01:47] <reisio> what I meant to say was use parted and % values for start & stop ;)
[01:48] <Neroon> reisio: so, it's normal that fdisk -l and df both say "... not start on physical..."?
[01:48] <reisio> zivester: look into xset/dpms/etc.
[01:48] <trism> moondog: I don't believe that was added until 12.10 for the livecd, I think you still have to use the alternate for 12.04
[01:48] <reisio> Neroon: df?
[01:48] <Neroon> reisio: well i tried unit tb and unit s
[01:49] <zivester> reisio thanks, I found `xscreensaver-command -deactivate` which works well
[01:49] <moondog> trism: ok, thanks :)
[01:49] <reisio> Neroon: try #%
[01:49] <reisio> zivester: yes indeed
[01:49] <Neroon> reisio: df -H to tell how much free space there is
[01:51] <Neroon> reisio: if i use % how would i tell it where to start from?
[01:52] <irssi-mike> savagejen: give this a try acpi_enforce_resources=lax
[01:53] <reisio> Neroon: 0% 50%, etc.
[01:54] <Neroon> reisio: sorry, my bad. didn't think of 0 ;-)
[01:54] <Neroon> reisio: And you think that would fix the issue of fdisk reporting that "error"?
[01:54] <reisio> :)
[01:55] <reisio> probably, although fdisk wouldn't bother me; df would
[01:55] <Neroon> reisio: well, both report the same thing
[01:55] <reisio> yous aid
[01:55] <reisio> and you said
[01:57] <rednaks> Hello, can anyone tell me who is in charge of libopencv-dev at ubuntu ?
[01:58] <Gnurdux> m
[01:58] <yax51> hello
[01:58] <reisio> rednaks: packages.ubuntu.com should be able to
[02:01] <rednaks> reisio, it said that the maintainer is : "Ubuntu developers"
[02:02] <reisio> it says a little more than that
[02:05] <rednaks> reisio, indeed, I found a place where I can ask :) thanks
[02:06] <tigranes> Hi! I'm trying to install 13.04 on MacBook Pro (late 2010 13" model) and am having hell of a time with the video card (GeForce GT 320M). Nouveau drivers make it run hot and cause visual artefacts. Nvidia drivers cause black screen on boot. I've been trying to follow various forum and blog posts to no avail. Does anyone have any good experiences with Ubuntu on MacBook Pro?
[02:12] <Neroon> tigranes: did you try nomodeset or modeset=0 at boot when using the nvidia driver?
[02:13] <SuperLag> Is there some app or method I can use for generating passwords on Ubuntu? I still use 1Password quite extensively on my Mac, and I miss the password generator feature on my Linux box.
[02:13] <tigranes> Neroon: I had nouveau.modeset=0. Is that what you meant?
[02:13] <jrib> SuperLag: pwgen?
[02:14] <reisio> SuperLag: everything you need: http://xkcd.com/936/
[02:14] <jp__> hello all, I am having trouble with this message:  The volume boot has only 0 byte disk space remaining
[02:14] <Neroon> tigranes: yes, but you might try modeset=0 too
[02:14] <reisio> jp__: sounds like your system wants to add something to the /boot partition, but it's full
[02:15] <jp__> I try to remove old linux kernals with synaptec but it fials
[02:15] <tigranes> Neroon: Okay, will try.
[02:15] <reisio> jp__: probably have to use rm
[02:15] <jp__> riesio, can I just rip out the old .gzip files?
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> jp__, dpkg -l | grep linux-image  to see kernels then sudo apt-get purge
[02:16] <SuperLag> reisio: haha, that's awesome
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> jp__, Or ubuntu-tweak has a a gui called janitor.
[02:17] <reisio> awesome in many ways
[02:17] <reisio> jp__: technically you don't need anything other than the file/s you're using right now
[02:24] <RichardRaseley> Hello. I inhereted a server with a software RAID1 configuration. However, only the "/" and "/boot" volumes are mirrored across the two drives, not the swap space. I would like to add the swap space after the fact. Can anyone point to an authoritative procedure for adding this volume?
[02:24] <RichardRaseley> Or any "gotchas" that I might face in adding the swap volume on a running system?
[02:25] <jp__> how do I get ubuntu-tweak?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> you can add swap files and partions on the fly. done that befor. not sure how being ona raid would matter
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> jp__, There is a PPA.
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> jp__:  get it from its homepage. its deb adds a ppa for it i recall
[02:25] <jp__> ty
[02:25] <xmetal> trobuleshooting a liveusb boot issue
[02:25] <xmetal> , here
[02:26] <cmck193> what down side is there from running windows virtually?
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, what is your definition of downside everyones is different
[02:27] <e0je> hi all, I have a laptop with a vga port and when I plug in my only vga monitor xrandr detects it correctly but its wavy, not real noticiable but gives a a headache. When I move the touch pad or mouse the waves increase in speed. Any idea whats going on? HDMI and internal display work great
[02:27] <RichardRaseley>  @Dr_Willis so this would likely be a matter of creating a new, mirrored swap space, adding it to the list of swap spaces, then removing the old?
[02:27] <reisio> e0je: is it a monitor, or a tv?
[02:27] <xmetal> (i admit its a different distro) but it is similar to ubuntu i think (you can probably take a good guess) .. one pc boots and runs or install fine with the liveusb ... this other pc is having issues when (i think) it gets to the "detecting screen or graphics" step
[02:27] <e0je> LED monitor
[02:28] <xmetal> (gray background, mouse cursor in middle ...  but unresponive)
[02:28] <reisio> I didn't ask what the backlighting was...
[02:28] <xmetal> just "sits there"
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> RichardRaseley:  im not even sure you would really want to mirror it. You can have more then one swap partion active at a time
[02:28] <e0je> really reisio ?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> RichardRaseley:  you could put it on a non raid partion if you wanted. Im not sure what you gain by having swap on a raid
[02:29] <xmetal> looking on the forums now
[02:29] <cmck193> wille-nille:  I want to install windows for work programs.  I just need to be able for the virtual machine to have it's own ip on the network and access to the usb's
[02:29] <RichardRaseley> @Dr_Willis: I do want to mirror it because, although there is a slight performance hit, if the system tries to reference a swap page that is non-existant (because of disk failure) it can cause the system to crash.
[02:29] <reisio> e0je: both tvs and monitors come with leds, either it is a monitor or a tv
[02:29] <SuperLag> cmck193: easy. Just make sure you use a bridged interface
[02:30] <SuperLag> cmck193: bridged is what VMware calls it. Your virtualization solution might call it something different.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> if you got disk failure going on. i imagine swap will be the least or your worries
[02:30] <cmck193> SuperLag: would virtualbox or vmware work better for what i want
[02:30] <e0je> reisio: i realize that I was volunteering more information dont get snappy
[02:30] <RichardRaseley> Not if everything is mirrored.
[02:30] <RichardRaseley> That is the point of RAID
[02:30] <RichardRaseley> If one disk in a mirrored set fails you don't lose the system.
[02:30] <reisio> e0je: it's just not a great sign that someone understood your question when they volunteer more information :D
[02:30] <SuperLag> cmck193: either would work. Personally, I prefer VMware. Had crappy experiences with VirtualBox, but to be fair... it was in a much earlier version.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> i see so many people having total disasters with raid in here, i sway away from it. ;)
[02:31] <reisio> about 150% of people using raid don't know what it's for
[02:31] <e0je> reisio: I really just want to talk about my question
[02:31] <cmck193> SuperLag: thanks.
[02:31] <reisio> e0je: right, just saying
[02:31] <RichardRaseley> If everything is mirrored except swap I am still at risk because a reference to a non-existent swap page can cause a fault that will bring down the system.
[02:32] <SuperLag> reisio: I thought RAID was just for the "cool factor"! :D
[02:32] <reisio> raid is not about data redundancy
[02:32] <reisio> it's about access redundancy
[02:32] <RichardRaseley> If the entirety (including swap is mirrored) I can handle a single disk failure without putting the system at risk (in terms of availability).
[02:32] <RichardRaseley> reisio: That is a non-sensical statement.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  i thought it was about moar and moar speeds!
[02:32] <reisio> SuperLag: yup, and for destroying hardware
[02:32] <SuperLag> reisio: say whaaaaaaat?
[02:32] <reisio> RichardRaseley: nope
[02:32] <RichardRaseley> reisio: Yep
[02:32] <reisio> nope
[02:32] <SuperLag> reisio: what do you mean, access redundancy?
[02:32] <RichardRaseley> reisio: You can't preserve access to data if you don't preserve the underlying data.
[02:32] <reisio> raid is about more things making more reads at once, and not about your data being preserved
[02:33] <RichardRaseley> That is so blatantly wrong.
[02:33] <reisio> RichardRaseley: it's a subtle but important distinction
[02:33]  * wilee-nilee reminisces the old raid tv commercials
[02:33] <reisio> nope
[02:33] <e0je> renato_: do you help anyone or just pick away at peoples questions?
[02:33] <reisio> e0je: both
[02:33] <Random832> reisio: do you have any citation for this at all?
[02:33] <reisio> e0je: it's wavy as in non-straight lines?
[02:34] <RichardRaseley> reisio: I'm not interested in getting the uninformed positions of a jr. sysadmin.
[02:34] <cfhowlett> !attitude
[02:34] <reisio> Random832: I just said 150% of people using raid don't know what it's for
[02:34] <reisio> it shouldn't be surprising then that you might be one of them :D
[02:34] <xmetal> RAID!?
[02:34] <Random832> reisio: has it occurred to you that it might be for more than one thing?
[02:34] <e0je> reisio: its wavy as if you threw a stone in a pond
[02:34] <xmetal> (was getting coffee, so yes i know that was a late joke)
[02:34] <RichardRaseley> It appears that you may not be one of them. Different RAID levels have different performance and data integrity characteristics.
[02:34] <reisio> Random832: more than one thing? That's unpossible
[02:35] <reisio> e0je: that sounds more like the wrong signal rather than something simple like the wrong frequency
[02:35] <reisio> e0je: like a computer monitor signal going into a TV, for example
[02:35] <Random832> if it were only for "access redundancy" as you say, there would be no reason for any raid level to incorporate parity
[02:35] <RichardRaseley> The most major consideration when choosing a RAID level is data integrity. If it were just speed of access, then everything would be RAID0
[02:35] <reisio> xmetal: a-ha, I remember those commercials :p
[02:36] <reisio> RichardRaseley: nope
[02:36] <RichardRaseley> reisio: lol, you are just embarrassing yourself now. I suggest you go ahead and take a basic A+ certification course - you'd really benefit from the remedial knowledge.
[02:37] <RichardRaseley> l8r all.
[02:37] <reisio> I'll get right on that
[02:37] <Random832> reisio: where the hell did you get this idea from?
[02:37] <dlw> need help with network. network was okay yesterday. Does not work today. clicking on 'network' in unity gives error, 'the system network services are not compatible with this version.' 'Network Connections' shows no connections and everything is grayed out. Any help appreciated, dlw
[02:37] <reisio> Random832: the same place I get them all
[02:37] <e0je> reisio: xrandr reports resolution and refresh rate.
[02:37] <reisio> dlw: you update something?
[02:37] <reisio> e0je: what make/model computer?
[02:37] <e0je> reisio: xrandr reports correctly res& refresh rate
[02:38] <e0je> Sony Vaio z21TGx
[02:38] <dlw> system update did an update, yes, I did not.
[02:38] <reisio> dlw: :)
[02:40] <reisio> dlw: does dpkg -l | grep -i 'network-manager' show anything?
[02:41] <dlw> what should be in /etc/network/interfaces? currently has; auto lo eth0; iface lo inet loopback.
[02:43] <jp__> sudo apt-get -f autoremove
[02:43] <jp__> hopefully does the trick thanks all
[02:44] <dlw> reisio yes, i'm on a netbook using a live cd PC can't connect to net
[02:44] <reisio> dlw: sorry, what are you saying 'yes' to?
[02:45] <reisio> e0je: might ask #linux
[02:45] <dlw> reisio yes, the command dpkg you listed shows four 'network-manager' listing.
[02:45] <reisio> ha, way ahead of me :p
[02:48] <guicps89> hi there. ive just fresh installed ubuntu some minutes ago (and i choosed the option to encrypt the whole system + encrypt home folder). but everytime i turn on the pc, after entering my password to unlock the system, a message appear saying: "the disk drive for /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present". i have to wait 1 minute to dis message dissapear. Any ideas to get rid of it?
[02:48] <dlw> reisio is there a way to attach a jpg here.
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> !screenshot
[02:48] <reisio> dlw: http://imgur.com/
[02:54] <dillondillon> hello
[02:54] <cfhowlett> dillondillon, greetings
[02:54] <dillondillon> can someone answer a samba question for me?
[02:55] <cfhowlett> !samba
[02:55] <Wally> Hello!
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> dillondillon:  ask it and see. ;)
[02:55] <cfhowlett> Wally, greetings
[02:55] <dillondillon> here goes, I have a machine running Ubuntu 13.04 that is always on, with Samba always running so that I can stream videos to other computers in the house. After a period of inactivity of I don't know how long, the samba shares are no longer discoverable by other computers, I cannot SSH into the Ubuntu machine, and I cannot remote desktop into it either. The machine is always connected to the network, and the only solution I've 
[02:55] <Wally> Anyone here got some good reasons why Ubuntu could replace FreeNAS?
[02:56] <dillondillon> ying. Can anyone help?
[02:56] <cfhowlett> Wally, perhaps you might want to debate relative merits of such in #ubuntu-offtopic rather than the support channel.  thanks.
[02:56] <Wally> Sure.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> dillondillon:  i think your info got cut off.. the ubuntu server basically vanishes from the network and you have to reboot?
[02:58] <dillondillon> the machine itself is still connected to the internet, but the samba shares disappear from the network
[02:58] <Guest18595> I want to change the army time to regular clock time on top of my screen. How do I do that?
[02:58] <Guest12834> I'm trying to connect to nicotine, and minUPnPc wont work. no idea whats going on here. Anyone know whats going on?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Guest12834:  its under the time and date settings when you right click on the clock.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> oops that was for Guest18595  ;P
[02:59] <Guest12834> it fails to start every time
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Guest12834:  what fails to start? minupnc?
[03:01] <dillondillon> any ideas on my issue Dr_Willis?
[03:01] <Guest18595> I changed it, but it won't change up top.
[03:01] <Guest18595> Oh, never mind, I see it. Sorry
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> dillondillon:  not without more testing of the network.  I cant think of what would kill off ssh, samba and other services from the lan.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> dillondillon:  other then some firewall rules.
[03:02] <cachencho> somoebody speak spanish?
[03:02] <arquebus> cachencho: I do
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> Guest12834:  no need to msg me. keep it in channel. and you may want to select a real/better nick.
[03:02] <dillondillon> hmmm. i was told disabling SELinux might lead me down the right path. Thoughts on that?
[03:02] <cfhowlett> !es|cachencho,
[03:02] <cachencho> thanked!
[03:03] <cfhowlett> cachencho, :)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> dillondillon:  ive never seen selinux mentioned in here as being such a problem
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> !selinux
[03:03] <Guest18595> O.K. got that time right, finally! Thanks!
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> dillondillon:  selinux is not installed by default.
[03:04] <JamesScrog> I tried to port forward to connect to nicotine, but it continues to tell me the port is closed
[03:04] <dillondillon> interesting...i have no idea what to do then
[03:04] <dillondillon> rebooting everytime is such a pain
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> dillondillon:  you have installes selinux? what else have you done to the system?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> dillondillon:  its possible a 'sudo service network restart' may kick them all back in also.
[03:05] <JamesScrog> I tried to port forward to connect to nicotine, but it continues to tell me the port is closed
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, That is always the key question. ;)
[03:05] <dillondillon> i haven't installed selinux, and other than some applications like sickbeard i haven't done much to it
[03:06] <dillondillon> is there a way to keep them from going down though? because i'm not always able to go to the machine and plug in a keyboard and type in commands
[03:06] <mr44> anyone able to help with vnc on a headless machine?
[03:07] <JamesScrog> I have a problem and I need help. The port I have opened is not behaving like an open port should
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  ssh in, run the vncserver, is how ive normally dont it.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> done it
[03:07] <Guest92528> Could someone please tell me if in the latest LTS release 12.04, that a send error report  message box (which subsequently then asks for your user password) is a normal function or a scam virus...??? I seem to get this error box alot; it has little keys in the ledt upper corner.. It just doesn't feel right though.
[03:07] <mr44> so, it isn't an issue with X? I can just start the server?
[03:08] <JamesScrog> I have a problem and I need help. The port I have opened is not behaving like an open port should
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  with vnc - you do NOT need a X server running on the local display/monitor at all.. SOME VNC servers however DO share the current visible display (thats how windows vnc  works also) you can have several (dozens+) vnc sessions that are totally hidden
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  with vnc - you do NOT need a X server running on the local display/monitor at all.. SOME VNC servers however DO share the current visible display (thats how windows vnc  works also) you can have several (dozens+) vnc sessions that are totally hidden
[03:08] <mr44> forgive my ignorance, but how do I start the server/
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> install a vncserver, and run it. normally via 'vncserver'
[03:09] <mr44> I'm using the default desktop sharing built in to 13.04
[03:09] <mr44> only works when monitor is attached
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> you DONT share the 'default/visible desktop' on a headless server
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> you ssh in, and run a vncserver, you then connect to.
[03:10] <mr44> so, I have to download vncserver
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> or set it to run automatically. You dont run X/lightdm at all on a headless server
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> !info xtightvnc
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> !info tightvnc
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> Hmm what is its name.. i forget.
[03:10] <JamesScrog> I have a problem and I need help. The port I have opened is not behaving like an open port should
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> !find tightvnc
[03:10] <dlw> reisio having problems uploading jpg, only part of the jpg shows up. will try to work this out later once I can get jpg uploaded. thanks for your help. dlw
[03:11] <mr44> so, tight tightvncserver, and ill have to find it's conf file and set it up there?
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> it should be in the users .vnc/* dir. most vnc serers use that dir
[03:11] <mr44> I"ll have to report back. I'm talking from that hsell now and need to close irssi to do it
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> theres several differnt vnc servers out there.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> vnc4server is anopther i used in the past
[03:12] <mr44> pok. I'll be back soon hopefully from Xchat
[03:12] <mr44> lemon out
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. Using cheese to 'preview and record' my usb-video capture dongle. it captures video and audio. but the preview window dosent play audio to my speakres.. anyone seen this and know of a work around?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> I want the audio. so i know when the vcr is done being recorded. ;)
[03:41] <streetlight> hey all
[03:41] <streetlight> anyone out there?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> yes
[03:41] <streetlight> very cool
[03:41] <cfhowlett> streetlight, nope.  we all went home ...
[03:42] <streetlight> just checking, I thought my IRC was on the fritz
[03:42] <streetlight> just installed a new client
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> but... i am home! ;P
[03:42] <streetlight> lol
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> still toying with recording shows from my usb-video capture dongle.
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> cheese does a good job.  just a little annoying in a few ways
[03:46] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, pretty sure there's a way to direct those audio video streams to record in VLC but ... don't ask me how.
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Yea - vlc can record them. But i cant 'watch/preview' them as its recording that ive figured out..
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> and my 'main' feature i want. is to bveable to record for like a set time.. ie:  record  for 1 1/2 hrs.. then stop..
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> I got vcr tapes i am recording.. want to set themto play and get recorded.. as i am elsewhere in the house.
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> I dont want to forget and have a 12 hr recording of static wheni come back ;P
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> I filled up my HD last night because of that.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> Im glad i was actually able to get this usb capture dongle working in ubuntu. with no hassles. (well very few)
[03:49] <tigranes> I'm trying to get a MacBook Pro to run Ubuntu 13.04, but having major issues with the Nvidia driver (nouveau runs very hot and unstable). During boot or startx (starting with 'text' kernel option), the laptop screen simply switches off. There's a flash and then backlight is off and everything. Pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 does nothing. Does this sound familiar to anybody?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> a lot of the guides/docs i am finding for using ffmpeg/mencoder and so forth say to capture from /dev/dsp for audio. but  thats outdated..  im getting video from /dev/video0 but some apps dont seem tog et the audio from there.
[03:50] <cfhowlett2> !mac|tigranes,
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> tigranes: ive seen a few weird cases where the system defaults to the external monitor. (not seen it on a mac however)
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> hitting the toggle monitor fn-XXX keys may kick it into gear.
[03:52] <viktor_> hello,everyone!
[03:52] <tigranes> Dr_Willis: Thanks, but no luck.
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> tigranes:  long shot. ;) had a friend with a laptop ages ago that for some weird reason defaulted that way. it was a fluke we hit the fn-XXX keys and got it working.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> I cant think of much sles that would disable the console text.  you could try disabliong the framebuffer also tigranes
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> 'noquiet nosplash nofb text' for the kernel boot options i recall
[03:53] <tigranes> Dr_Willis: Will try, thanks!
[04:01] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Here is some stuff I've done b4:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5917106/
[04:04] <smgordon> so when does this place get hopping?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  in your last example.. we dont have a /dev/dsp anymore do we? ;)
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> ffmpeg -f oss -i /dev/dsp -f video4linux2 -s 320x240 -i /dev/video0 out.mpg
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> or does the -f oss somehow make it?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> was trying this earlier..
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> avconv -f oss -i /dev/dsp -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 test.avi
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> and couldent read from /dev/dsp
[04:09] <smgordon> question:  Does ubuntu allow me to share folders and files on a private network ( to 3 other PCs in the house) that run windows 7? like windows homegroup??
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> smgordon:  samba allows you do to that yes.
[04:09] <smgordon> samba?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> windows homegroup however is like a suped up samba setup.
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[04:09] <smgordon>  sorry new to irc & ubuntu
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> so you may need to twiddle with things a bit. and access the ubuntu server via its ip#. not its servername.
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> you 'should' be able to right click on a folder on ubuntu (as a user) and select share and make a guest share and it 'should' work.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> if you are not transfering a lot of stuff, and dont need a full time share. you may want to look into using 'winscp' on windows and installing the ssh server on the linux box.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> samba and shares can either work.. or be a real pain. Sadly.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> what is the linux box shareing/serveing to the windows network?
[04:12] <smgordon> I right clicked the LOCAL DRIVE  ( the one i want to share) and was prompted to install samba.  installing now
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> dont use a local drive as a first time test.. make a directory in the users home name it 'test_share' (no spaces in the name) and see if that works first
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> shareing whold hard drives, can be confused by permission/securty issues
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> and just a tip. dont use spaces in share names, or server names. ;)
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> another tip. users can have a seperate Samba password thats differnt then their login password. often this needs to be set for some shares to work. set it via the command.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo smbpasswd -a YOURUSERNAME  password'
[04:14] <smgordon> I tried to run a pc with redhat about 15-20 years ago and it was confusing to say the least. installed ubuntu and haven't had any major issues  or comprehension problems LOL .
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> 15 yrs ago - we were recompilign our kernels just to get cd-rw drives to work.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> and winmodems where the biggest issue
[04:14] <smgordon>  the LOCAL drive i have is just to store downloads, separte from the 80 gb drive i use for just  the OS and add ons..
[04:15] <alfreddba> please guide me to learn advance in monit on ubuntu..
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> if you really want to share the drive. you may want to edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf and make a proper share definition for it. not share it AS A USER.
[04:15] <Dr_Willis>  a 'user defined share' is a relatively new feature in Linux/samba :)
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[04:15] <smgordon> ok   thank you ...
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> the samba-doc package has several Books on the topic. :) some are a bit out of date. but the core info is still good.
[04:16] <alfreddba> please guide me to learn advance in monit on ubuntu..
[04:16] <smgordon>  gonna have to start reading   ...
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> !info monit
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> start with the monit man pages and  see if theres any guides on the ubuntu wiki, or its homepage perhaps.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> first google hit for 'monit tutorial' ->  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-configure-monit
[04:23] <alfreddba> guide me monit in ubuntu
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> alfreddba:  see the url posted above?
[04:25] <alfreddba> Dr_Willis: thanks
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> first google hit for 'monit tutorial' ->  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-configure-monit
[04:32] <cmck193> can someone please assist me with getting my audio working?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> give the channel details
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> but rember its a slow night here. ;)
[04:33] <cmck193> I just installed xubuntu 12.04 on my HP DM4 laptop and have no audio
[04:33] <cmck193> It uses an Intel HD Audio onboard card
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> !alsa
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> im not sure if the help.ubuntu.* sites are up or down right now. theres also the askubuntu.com site that may have info for specific chipsets
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[04:36] <Hexagonite> Anyone know an app/program to edit LiveCDs?
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> normally you 'remaster' a live cd..  and build a new iso
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> you mean alter the .iso file directly?
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> !remaster
[04:37] <Hexagonite> yes?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> Hexagonite, eh? can't be done so far as I know.  Once burned, that image is burned ...
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> You dont know what you mean ? :) or dont know what you want to do?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> there used to be a neat web site that had a web interface and would build custome isos for you. but i think it closed down ages ago. ;(
[04:38] <cmck193> I think he wants to remaster a live iso and create a new one
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> Im not even sure how well the remastering tools and guides work with the 13.x and 12.x releases.
[04:38] <Hexagonite> UCK doesn't work for newer releases :(
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> there used to be a 'remastersys' site/tool. but not tried it in years.
[04:39] <Hexagonite> Dr_Willis it closed for some reason
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> http://www.remastersys.com/
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> 'I have re-enabled the repositories for now but don't know how long I will be able to keep them up.'
[04:40] <Hexagonite> ohh, I thought you were talking about the web app
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> http://system-imaging.blogspot.com/   seems the continuation of remastersys
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> Yea. the web service went down like 3 yrs ago. ;)
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> I had made a nice little custome iso of my own with it .. then they went byebye
[04:42] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, I don't have details, but seems the remastersys guy burned out over the typical BS ... complaints, trolls, bitching, kvetching ...
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> cfhowlett:  yea. the url i posted mentions its forked. and some binaries for  ubuntu - dated april of this year.
[04:43] <looped> hi, im trying to install an older version of rabbitmq-server (3.0.2-1) on ubuntu 13.04 (than the one available in the repo) + an exact version of erlang-nox (14.b.4-dfsg-1ubuntu1) that it depends on. ive added the precise repos in my sources, and though the old versions of the packages are available - i cant seem to get the dependencies to resolve correctly
[04:44] <cody_> so how goes the cell phone market?
[04:44] <looped> the reason i need exact versions is because rabbitmq won't cluster with another node unless its the exact same version
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> cody_, The edge is #ubuntu-touch
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> I havent even tried to put ubuntu on my Nexus7 tablet.. :) not sure why i really need ubuntu on the tablet. and what it would offer diffefntly from android. (this may be a big hurdle for the edge/ubuntu touch  to get into the marketplace)
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Saucy or the touch install easily, but yeah I found it no really needed.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> I do have android on several 'desktop' devices. ;)  and have some tablets setup as desktop/pc/laptop type setups with mice/keyboards.. so they  really are going to have a fight on their hands i think to get people to stand up and notice ubuntu touch
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> of course im a bit of a cynic with all this new hardware.. ive bought several 'devices' over the last few years that were basically washouts. ;)
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> I like android for the phone and the nexus, I even loaded lubuntu on the saucy, that was not to bad.
[04:49]  * Dr_Willis stares at his Chumby sitting on his desk.. with now.. exactly 1 clock applet. where it used to run hundreds..
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> im getting so used to how android works..  i almost think they need to start taking features from android and putting them into ubuntu.. but i guess thats what the touch stuff is all about.
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> The edge with the phone or desktop plugin might be nice.
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> just need a fold up soft monitor
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> i recall those android phones with the tablet/laptop-dock   from like 2 yrs ago. ;)  neat idea.. but overpriced. friend got one on clearance for like $100.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> now everyone wants the laptop-dock for their raspberry pis. ;P
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> be nice to see some standard 'lap-dock' for a phone  so if i invest $300 in a monitor-keyboard dock for a ubuntu phone.. it wont be obsolete a year later.
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> that would be nice, without trying yo keep up with the joneses
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> to*
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> I got a little case and keyboard for the nexus, the keyboard only works effectively if removed from the case, otherwise it multi types,
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> its not like the laptop monitor-keyboard stuff has improved that much over the last few years. ;) better res, highre res.. but still  once you get over 1080p.. i have to wonder whats the point.
[04:55] <arandur> Having problems with my Broadcom wireless card... any brave soul want to try and help me out?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> heh. I got some Motorolla bluetooth keyboards on clearahce last year when  Motorla dumped them. was $90 - on sale for $10 - bought 3 ;P
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> !Broadcom | arandur
[04:56] <arandur> Already been there; thanks, though.
[04:56] <arandur> Anywhere else you recommend before I bug you guys?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> i still cant figure out how to get a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse working with Ubuntu, or my raspberry pi.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> arandur, Cool, tell the channel what's up.
[04:56] <arandur> Well, it looks like my WLAN card is hard-blocked.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> theres always askubuntu.com also.
[04:57] <arandur> The hardware switch doesn't turn on the wireless, though.
[04:57] <arandur> The switch physically works, because it turns on and off my Bluetooth.
[04:57] <arandur> But not the WLAN.
[04:57] <arandur> Soooo
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> I use wireless with ubuntu I have found bluetooth problematic
[04:57] <arandur> I haven't ever used bluetooth; it's just kinda there.
[04:58] <arandur> Iv'e reinstalled teh bcmwl-kernel-source; I've reinstalled Ubuntu; I've gone into the BIOS to look for problems.
[04:58] <arandur> Everything tells me that it should be working, but it's still hard-blocked.
[04:58] <arandur> Hence my problem.
[04:58] <arandur> Hard-wired ethernet works fine, and my USB wireless adapter is working.
[04:58] <arandur> So the problem is isolated to the internal wireless card.
[04:59] <varunendra> arandur, one brave soul just woke up, but kinda dizzy....
[04:59] <arandur> varuendra: Take your time, of course.
[04:59] <varunendra> arandur, do you know which wireless chip you have? and what driver?
[04:59]  * wilee-nilee slipps varunendra a triple espresso
[05:00]  * varunendra looks around and wonders what was that.. :/
[05:00] <arandur> Forgive me; I've forgotten the commands to find those out.
[05:00] <arandur> Do you mind reminding me?
[05:01] <varunendra> arandur, is it by any chance an HP laptop? or Compaq?
[05:01] <kingbeast> isn't it "lspci | grep Network" ?
[05:01] <arandur> Thanks, kingbeast!
[05:01] <arandur> varuendra: It's... a Dell.
[05:01] <arandur> Inspiron n7xxx
[05:02] <arandur> Please excuse me while I die of shame a little.
[05:02] <varunendra> actually - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[05:02] <varunendra> lol...
[05:02] <varunendra> (finally) dizziness fades..
[05:02] <kingbeast> i haven't had to lspci anything in a while
[05:02] <kingbeast> sorry
[05:02] <arandur> Broadcom BCM4313 802.11b/g/n
[05:02] <varunendra> results to pastebin of course....
[05:03] <kingbeast> b43 cutter isn't it?
[05:03] <varunendra> arandur, Ubuntu 13.04?
[05:03] <greyhatpython> hi is there anyway to get certified in Ubuntu? I don't like Redhat and it's certification.
[05:03] <arandur> Yeah, 13.04.
[05:03] <varunendra> kingbeast, no, it's either wl or brcmsmac
[05:03] <arandur> waitaminute
[05:03] <arandur> rfkill is now telling me that it's no longer hard blocked.
[05:04] <arandur> Let me see if the pixies fixed my computer while I was away.
[05:04] <arandur> brb, sorry.
[05:04] <varunendra> arandur, the first thing to do without a doubt then - "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source"
[05:04] <varunendra> that will remove the proprietary driver..
[05:05] <varunendra> ok, quit.. :/
[05:05] <arandur> Well, call in the cows.
[05:05] <arandur> It fixed itself.
[05:05] <arandur> I'm going to assume one of you ninja-sshed into my computer and fiddled with it.
[05:06] <arandur> So thanks, ninja.
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> it was the shadow
[05:06] <arandur> The shadow?
[05:06] <kingbeast> if it was that simple more would be using Ubuntu, imo
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> an old radio show
[05:06] <arandur> Well, now I won't sleep tonight. Thanks a bunch.
[05:06] <arandur> Night, y'all.
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> really old
[05:06] <varunendra> arandur, if you are using the "wl" driver, you should remove it. It's not good with that card.
[05:07] <varunendra> night !
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> greyhatpython, A quick google search shows this. http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntucert
[05:12] <oooaaaoooo> is the forum still offline/
[05:12] <kingbeast> oooaaaoooo, yep
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> greyhatpython, Appears to have been discontinued as far as I can tell though.
[05:14] <varunendra> oooaaaoooo, updates here : http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/update-on-status-regarding-re-opening-the-forums/754/42
[05:15] <varunendra> do I look scary ?? Everyone I try to answer runs away... :/
[05:15]  * varunendra goes to wash his face..
[05:16] <kingbeast> just a bit intimidating varunendra
[05:18] <Lonix> hello
[05:19] <kingbeast> hey Lonix
[05:19] <Lonix> whats new?
[05:24] <varunendra> Okay, a hopeless question - Does anybody know of some internet speed monitoring applet that runs within the panel? The tray?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> varunendra:   theres a list of 'indicator-applets' at the askubuntu.com site
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> i recall there being networkj monitors in the list.
[05:25] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, thanks, taking a look (searching there..)
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> sort by 'votes' :) shows the big ticket items
[05:27] <varunendra> :D Thanks for saving me the search time !
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> that list may not be totally current.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> webupd8.org and omgubuntu also may have their own lists, or posts on new ones
[05:35] <goddard> anyone know how to remount server drive with sshfs if it timesout
[05:41] <Guest42195> braden is here
[05:43] <e__> has anybody has issues with tint2? I'm trying to install it with apt-get but I can't use tint2conf, making it kind of useless. It just tells me that I can get tint2conf by installing tint2, which is already there. Ideas?
[05:43] <resure> Hi. I've added self signed root certificate as described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73287/how-do-i-install-a-root-certificate but when I'm trying to visit site that protected with that certificate browser still gives an error
[05:43] <reisio> e__: dpkg -L tint2 | less
[05:51] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, for a moment I though I found it in the 2nd answer of that askubuntu link you gave me - "indicator-multiload", but evidently, it's useless with my "Mobile Broadband" connection (was already mentioned in the footer of the answer) :/....
[05:51]  * varunendra buries head into synaptic once more..
[06:05] <goddard> anyone know how to remount server drive with sshfs if it timesout
[06:05] <reisio> goddard: same command
[06:05] <goddard> reisio: or just keep it alive
[06:05] <goddard> i mean automatically so i dont have to do it
[06:05] <reisio> oh :p
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. not sure how well sshfs would handle that.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> you might want to look into that 'autofs' but i still wonder how tye sytem would know  the sshfs timed out.
[06:09] <reisio> well if it happens that often...
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> yea - not a good thing.
[06:09] <reisio> I mean for something long term I don't think I'd use sshfs
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Ive had very few issues with sshfs. but i dont use it for anything critical
[06:16] <ubuntu89> how can i build my modified ubuntu distro via virtualbox as a hosting for the modified distro?
[06:17] <reisio> ubuntu89: a hosting?
[06:20] <reisio> ubuntu89: yes?
[06:20] <ubuntu89> i'm working on ubuntu distro now .. i need to make an engineering distro based up on ubuntu via virtualbox
[06:21] <ubuntu89> i intend to install ubuntu on virtual machine and install packages on my virtual machine ubuntu >> get me?
[06:21] <reisio> you can basically just tar up an install and extract it elsewhere and it'll work as long as the required hardware drivers are enabled
[06:21] <goddard> Dr_Willis: reisio i tried gvfs i think it is for awhile, but it has a odd bug so i couldn't use that i will look into autofs
[06:23] <reisio> goddard: you could probably just run a cron with -o reconnect
[06:23] <ubuntu89> reisio:shall it be successful?
[06:24] <reisio> ubuntu89: ?
[06:27] <ubuntu89> i'm on ubuntu machine with virtualbox installed .. i'll install ubuntu inside my virtual machine .. i shall install engineering packages on my virtualbox ubuntu .. when finishing install my packages i have to take a cope of my installed ubuntu virtual machine
[06:28] <reisio> ubuntu89: to use in VirtualBox elsewhere, or as an installation to metal?
[06:30] <ubuntu89> no .. i need to extract it from virtual maching putting it on CDs for distributing it to my friends
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> and how are they going to run it?
[06:32] <ubuntu89> via booting it
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> and then do what? clone it to a real physical machine?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> or run it in virtualbox also?
[06:35] <ubuntu89> clone it to many real physical machines
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> you may want to look into mondo/mindi to make a bootable 'image clone' cd/dvd set.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> basically like a system restore cd/dvd set that windows would use. boots and clones to the hd.
[06:37] <Equinox3> hi, is there a command to create a pop up in Ubuntu
[06:37] <ubuntu89> Dr_Willis:please give me a link or youtube videoo..sorry for my bad english .. thanks
[06:38] <chunkyhead> is there a command by which i can list bluetooth devices from the command line?
[06:39] <reisio> chunkyhead: yes
[06:39] <reisio> Equinox3: zenity?
[06:39] <reisio> Equinox3: there are lots, actually, but zenity is probably the most GUI consistent
[06:39] <chunkyhead> reisio, may you tell me/ i be pointed to a link or something like that?
[06:39] <Equinox3> thanks, i'm already trying it
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu89:  mondo/mindi has its own web site. i havent used it in ages.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[06:40] <reisio> chunkyhead: they keep changing them
[06:41] <reisio> chunkyhead: probably dpkg -L bluez | grep bin will get you there
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu89:  also check out clonezilla
[06:41] <reisio> or dpkg -L whateverTheBluezPackageIsCalled
[06:41] <santhosh> hai ubuntu kvm is support for .vxdm image
[06:41] <ubuntu89> reisio , Dr_Willis and ubottu:thank you so much ^_^
[06:41] <chunkyhead> -L is for reisio ?
[06:42] <dacs> okay so i am currently running 13.04 xfce and installed nomachine nx , but when i connect to my box it pulls unity why?
[06:42] <santhosh> hai ubuntu kvm is support for .vmdk image
[06:42] <reisio> chunkyhead: --listfiles
[06:42] <reisio> (installed by package)
[06:44] <chunkyhead> reisio, there has to be a native linux command right?
[06:45] <reisio> chunkyhead: I just told you how to find it
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> i think theres like 3 differnt bluetooth 'systems'   but i rarely mess with them
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> bluez,  and 2 others.. ( been ages since i fought with bluetooth)
[06:45] <chunkyhead> hci tools i guess is the linux one. thanks!
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> btscanner - ncurses-based scanner for Bluetooth devices
[06:46] <chunkyhead> Dr_Willis, refresh your memories XD http://screencloud.net/v/ly31
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> i basically have given up on using bluetooth with the pc.
[06:46] <chunkyhead> Dr_Willis, why
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> too much hassles
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> works fine with my android tablets.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> but for the pc. I  dont care to bother.
[06:47] <chunkyhead> actually i just wanted to backup everything which is there on my phone. i lost the USB cable soo..
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> chunkyhead:  what kind of phone?
[06:47] <chunkyhead> Dr_Willis, old sony ericsson c510 :O
[06:47] <santhosh> hai ubuntu kvm is support for .vmdk image
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> santhosh:  you mean to ask 'Does ubuntu kvm support the .vmdk image format?'
[06:48] <santhosh> yes
[06:48] <santhosh> that is my question sorry for mistake
[06:48] <Wulf> Hi
[06:48] <chunkyhead> jai santhoshi maa :P
[06:49] <reisio> hi Wulf
[06:49] <chunkyhead> hi
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> santhosh, virtualbox does
[06:49] <santhosh> what about kvm <wilee-nilee>
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> !kvm
[06:50] <reisio> santhosh: IIRC it's not a too complex process to get the data from a vmdk to boot from kvm
[06:50] <reisio> talk to #kvm about it
[06:50] <Wulf> I activated automatic security(?) updates in 12.04; now I have 10 kernels installed and /boot is full. What's the proper fix?
[06:50] <santhosh> so it is possible for kvm
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Wulf:  remove the kernels you dont need
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> keep like the last 2
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com has several methods to clean out the old kernels
[06:51] <Wulf> I don't want a manual way for it
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> there is no automatic way that ive seen
[06:51] <reisio> santhosh: it might not be as simple as kvm -foo path/to/bar.vmdk, but it should be pretty simple
[06:51] <Wulf> damn :(
[06:51] <santhosh> ok thanks
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> except for the scripts and tools i have mentioned at askubuntu.com
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> Wulf, You can use ubuntu-tweak's janitor for a gui clean.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> and be carefull with those scripts.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Wulf: ubuntu-tweak can cleanout stuff
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> be VERY VERY carefull with ubuntu-tweak ;)
[06:52] <Wulf> gui is bad
[06:52] <Wulf> it's like 20 machines I only have ssh access to
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> hmm no manual and gui is bad
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: never had issues with ubuntu-tweak myself cleaning out kernels
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> Wulf, dpkg -l | grep linux-image  to see kernels then sudo apt-get purge "image"
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  i seem to recall once it removeing a kernel that was in use for me.. along with all the rest. ;P
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> but thats a feature they seem to add/remove./readd to ubuntu tweak. I dont really use the app much any more these days
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> 'no manual and gui is bad' ? huh.. you do use the manual way.. theres no automatic way that ive seen
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: thats not good indeed removing an in-use kernel, i more use it for handy little tweaks
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  i may be thinking of that disaster of a tool 'computer-janitor' also ;)
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: also tryed unity-tweak and pleased by it
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> i just rarely seem to tweak things much with any of them these days
[07:01] <chunkyhead> how to send input from 1 file to a command? like i want to do "cd <input from1 file>"
[07:01] <Wulf> cd $(foo)
[07:01] <chunkyhead> (y)
[07:01] <chunkyhead> thanks
[07:02] <chunkyhead> Wulf, foo being the file name?
[07:02] <Wulf> chunkyhead: oh, input from a file. cd $(cat file)
[07:02] <chunkyhead> what was foo for
[07:02] <Wulf> a command
[07:03] <chunkyhead> man foo doesn't gimme anything
[07:03] <Wulf> chunkyhead: note that this will not work if the file has spaces
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> placeholder
[07:03] <chunkyhead> Wulf, what if i want to load up entire file with spaces
[07:03] <Wulf> chunkyhead: dir=$(cat file); cd -- "$dir"
[07:06] <Wulf> wilee-nilee: I found that "apt-get autoremove" may work for me
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> Wulf, Cool, I use it often.
[07:07] <Kesler> hello
[07:07] <Kesler> new to unbuntu
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> Wulf: here's an interesting thread about your issue: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/
[07:08] <Wulf> Kesler: welcome!
[07:08] <Kesler> any suggestions for faster speeds
[07:08] <Wulf> lotuspsychje: thanks
[07:08] <Wulf> Kesler: more CPUs!
[07:08] <SunStar> i need help. i just installed windows and need to run boot-repair to get ubuntu working again.  boot the live CD and no internet. installed b43-fwcutter and linux-firmware-nonfree_1.11_all and rebooted. still no wifi. what now?
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> Kesler: what spec pc?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Kesler: install an ssd drive and re-install ubuntu :p
[07:09] <Kesler> mac 10.5.8 intel 4GB
[07:09] <aeon-ltd> that told me almost nothing
[07:09] <varunendra> SunStar, please show us the output of "lspci -nn | grep 0280"
[07:11] <SunStar> varunendra, BCM4312 LP-PHY
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> Kesler: processor + it's clock speed, what gpu, how much ram?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | SunStar
[07:11] <SunStar> ....
[07:11] <varunendra> SunStar, Do you also have the wl driver installed? (lsmod | grep wl)
[07:11] <SunStar> i am well familiar with that article lotuspsychje
[07:12] <Kesler> 2 GHz Intel Core 2 duo 4GB 1087mnz ccr3
[07:12] <mumpitze1> SunStar: you don't need internet access to boot repair your PC
[07:12] <Kesler> *DDR3
[07:13] <mumpitze1> Kesler: buy a SSD
[07:13] <Kesler> thx
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> Kesler: i'm guessing intel integrated graphics? is this a macbook from 2008?
[07:13] <SunStar> mumpitze1, its normally the quickiest easiest way, but this time its not, your right i should update grub
[07:13] <mumpitze1> there is no need to update it either
[07:14] <SunStar> then?
[07:14] <mumpitze1> you need to install grub into the MBR again, not a new version of grub
[07:14] <SunStar> whatever
[07:14] <SunStar> i thought u were gonna teach me something
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !polite | SunStar
[07:15] <mumpitze1> boot a live cd, mount your ubuntu install, bind mount /dev and /proc into it too, chroot to it and rand sudo grub-install /dev/sdX. done
[07:15] <IthinkImightbega> Okay so I just installed Linux
[07:15] <IthinkImightbega> any advice?
[07:15] <mumpitze1> IthinkImightbega: use it
[07:15] <reisio> IthinkImightbega: rejoice
[07:15] <IthinkImightbega> how do I use it?
[07:15] <IthinkImightbega> Like, boot it into a betamax
[07:15] <mumpitze1> IthinkImightbega: you power on your PC where you installed it
[07:16] <reisio> IthinkImightbega: a betamax? :p
[07:16] <IthinkImightbega> On my Windows 7 Samsung TV
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> Kesler: in short your only options [that cost nothing but time] is to use lighter software, e.g. lxde or xfce instead of gnome/unity. to reduce the load and free up resources to be used elsewhere
[07:16] <IthinkImightbega> iApple
[07:16] <reisio> IthinkImightbega: iApple? :p
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> IthinkImightbega:  if you want a home theater app. try out xbmc
[07:16] <IthinkImightbega> Do I have to root my home television set?
[07:16] <IthinkImightbega> To get access to Napster?
[07:16] <mumpitze1> IthinkImightbega: please stop
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> !manual | IthinkImightbega
[07:17] <reisio> IthinkImightbega: heh
[07:17] <IthinkImightbega> I have a mac
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> sorry to hear that.
[07:17] <IthinkImightbega> I was just joking, but I am interested in linux and shit.
[07:17] <varunendra> SunStar, you said - "boot the live CD and no internet. installed b43-fwcutter and linux-firmware-nonfree_1.11_all and rebooted." -- really??
[07:17] <reisio> both interesting things
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> !language | IthinkImightbega
[07:17] <mumpitze1> IthinkImightbega: expressing your "interest" this way was not a good idea
[07:18] <SunStar> varunendra,  yes because i have a copy of linux-firmware-nonfree_1.11_all.deb
[07:18] <IthinkImightbega> Yeah, sorry :/
[07:18] <IthinkImightbega> Anyway...
[07:19] <theos> hi! i upgraded to 13.04 and my mouse doesnt work. i get the error "cannot enable port #, cable maybe bad?"
[07:19] <IthinkImightbega> Q: Do I have to uninstall Windows in order to install Linux?
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> no
[07:19] <varunendra> SunStar, but the changes get lost if you reboot. You have to modprobe the b43 driver without rebooting.
[07:19] <SunStar> no
[07:19] <IthinkImightbega> how do I do it then?
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> IthinkImightbega: google dual booting
[07:19] <IthinkImightbega> Is that like DLC
[07:19] <theos> Maybe the USB cable is bad?*
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> totally...
[07:19] <theos> !dualboot
[07:20] <SunStar> varunendra,  i am using 4GB casper persistence partition to save settings across boots
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> theos: usb mouse or ps2?
[07:20] <theos> lotuspsychje usb2
[07:20] <dortiz> hi all I was wondering if anyone had issues installing ati driver for 4000 series for ubuntu 12.04
[07:20] <IthinkImightbega> So wait
[07:20] <reisio> dortiz: ...you? :p
[07:20] <dortiz> i have been trying for days to figure it out
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> theos: ok what brand of usb2 mouse? (did it work on previous versions?
[07:20] <IthinkImightbega> Is Linux compatible with HD DVDs?
[07:20] <mumpitze1> theos: go to a console (ctrl+alt+f2), install and start gpm. check if the mouse works there
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> !ot | IthinkImightbega
[07:21] <IthinkImightbega> if you're too embaressed to answer in public, i'll give you my fax number
[07:21] <varunendra> SunStar, so do you have a /lib/firmware/b43 folder in your next boot? That's all that is required for this device you have.
[07:21] <dortiz> but keeps showing up as vesa rs880m
[07:21] <mumpitze1> IthinkImightbega: please stop. or hopefully there is an op near
[07:21] <theos> lotuspsychje yes it used to work on 10.04. then i upgraded :( its an IBM mouse
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> IthinkImightbega: crash course, you can run linux either by virtual machine[on top of another OS; referred to as a host]; dual booting, both on one or multiple hdds only one os is selected at boot; or a special type of dual boot known as wubi which doesn't need a linux bootloader to run.
[07:21] <IthinkImightbega> Okay...
[07:21] <IthinkImightbega> So my telegraph is a few years out of date and it's not properly sending my morse code. Can I install some sort of telegraph program on my iOS 4.0.1
[07:22] <dortiz> oh sorry i will check support channel
[07:22] <IthinkImightbega> and will you please tell my why my father left me
[07:22] <dortiz> new to the channels
[07:22] <SunStar> varunendra,  yes that directory exists
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> !ops | IthinkImightbega
[07:22] <SunStar> no wifi
[07:22] <IthinkImightbega>  !ops
[07:22] <IthinkImightbega>  !plsrespond
[07:22] <dortiz> how do i get to the support channel
[07:22] <IthinkImightbega>  !kick FaggotsRUs
[07:23] <mumpitze1> dortiz: ati fglrx drivers don't work anymore for 4000 series. your videocard should be supported out of the box by radeon however
[07:23] <varunendra> SunStar, it should be something simple, but if your main target is boot-repair, why not use one of the live CDs that come with it preinstalled ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> dortiz:  support channel for what? this is the ubuntu support channel.
[07:23] <theos> try #ati
[07:23] <SunStar> im downloading it now. was trying to get up up and running before it finished but thats not gonna happen
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ati/amd has a bad habbit of dropping support for older (or not so old hardware) from the fglrx drivers as quick as they can  get by with it.
[07:24] <SunStar> ^^
[07:24] <mumpitze1> dortiz: so #ati won't be able to help you
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> often dumping the 'card' onto the open sourced radeon/ati drivers befor those drivers are ready for the card
[07:24] <theos> ya ati drivers dont work after upgrading from 10.04 to 13.04
[07:24] <elky> IthinkImightbega: that's not acceptable behaviour in this channel
[07:24] <IthinkImightbega> please
[07:25] <dortiz> @mumpitzel what route would i go
[07:25] <IthinkImightbega> i'm sorry
[07:25] <dortiz> or just get a new laptop
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> theos: maybe a clean install would fix the mouse?
[07:25] <mumpitze1> dortiz: as I told you: do nothing and it should work. if it doesn't show us the Xorg log
[07:25] <theos> lotuspsychje yes its a clean install. it worked on 10.04
[07:25] <mumpitze1> theos: have you tried gpm?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> it worked with a very differnt version of the drivers, kernels, and xorg  :)
[07:26] <theos> mumpitze1 will it kill X?
[07:26] <dortiz> it doesn't use the driver ati because im not able to run steam games on here but in windows i use the driver and it runs fine
[07:26] <mumpitze1> no
[07:26] <theos> oh ok
[07:27] <mumpitze1> dortiz: read all of what I wrote
[07:27] <dortiz> I also get error when i install the driver from amd website 13.1
[07:27] <dortiz> ok
[07:27] <mumpitze1> dortiz: trying to install that driver was a very bad idea
[07:27] <dortiz> i havent done it yet
[07:27] <dortiz> i just reimaged pc
[07:27] <theos> mumpitze1 i started gpm. but no output
[07:27] <dortiz> so fresh image
[07:28] <mumpitze1> theos: why would there be any output? try the mouse in your console
[07:28] <dortiz> im on it now and video graphics says unkown
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> gpm should give you a little 'box' cursor on the console
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> like in the old dos days ;)
[07:28] <dortiz> unknown
[07:28] <mumpitze1> dortiz: pastebin your Xorg.0.log then
[07:28] <dortiz> how do i get that im new to linux
[07:29] <mumpitze1> !pastebinit
[07:29] <mumpitze1> and the file is /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[07:29] <mumpitze1> sorry: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:31] <sharpshooter> hi friends i'm having a big issue in my ubuntu 13.04 the system is freezing after a few minutes, I thought it was the unity problem and tried resetting the unity by using the commant dconf reset -f /org/compiz nothing help then I installed gnome and used that and the system freezes after a while , what is the main problem of this is anyone else experienced this ??
[07:31] <mumpitze1> define "a while"
[07:32] <sharpshooter> after 10 min or
[07:32] <SunStar> check the S.M.A.R.T. logs and make sure the hard drive isnt dieing sharpshooter
[07:32] <theos> mumpitze1 nothing happens. cant see mouse cursor in console.
[07:32] <mumpitze1> theos: check dmesg and syslog maybe?
[07:32] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: generally check your hardware and especially look at temperatures of your CPU and videocard
[07:33] <dortiz> still trying to find xorg log
[07:33] <theos> i see router logs in dmesg. how can i disable those?
[07:33] <mumpitze1> dortiz: I gave you the full path. /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[07:33] <mumpitze1> damn. /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:34] <mumpitze1> theos: what "router logs"?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> router logs?
[07:34] <theos> mumixam like this [ 1521.606819] [UFW AUDIT] IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.4 DST=64.32.xx.xx LEN=64 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=43079 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=55365 DPT=7000 WINDOW=331 RES=0x00 ACK URGP=0
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> some routers support syslog ive noticed on my dd-wrt router
[07:34] <mumpitze1> theos: if you mean stuff from netfilter: don't let netfilter log
[07:34] <theos> err mumpitze1
[07:34] <dortiz> i get this
[07:34] <mumpitze1> theos: change your ufw configuration not to log various events
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !ufw
[07:35] <theos> oh thanks
[07:35] <dortiz> it says missing
[07:35] <e0je> hi all, I have a laptop with a vga port and when I plug in my only vga monitor xrandr detects it correctly but its wavy, not real noticiable but gives a a headache. When I move the touch pad or mouse the waves increase in speed. Any idea whats going on? HDMI and internal display work great
[07:35] <e0je> wavy like ripples when you drop a stone in water
[07:35] <dortiz> unexpected error
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> e0je:  sounds like interfearance in the signal.
[07:36] <mumpitze1> e0je: change the horizonzal frequency of your vga output
[07:36] <mumpitze1> dortiz: it can't be missing when you have run X at least once
[07:36] <e0je> Dr_Willis: how can i check for interference?
[07:36] <dortiz> do i type that in terminal or search
[07:37] <sharpshooter> SunStar:  mumpitze1 , sorry i freezes again so restarted my system
[07:37] <mumpitze1> dortiz: ls -l /var/log/Xorg*
[07:37] <e0je> mumpitze1: how do i adjust horz frequency???/
[07:37] <mumpitze1> e0je: xrandr should be able to do it
[07:37] <theos> thanks that solved logging problem. now i have [ 1763.228158] ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.7: setting latency timer to 64   [ 1764.220058] hub 2-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 2.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[07:37] <sharpshooter> SunStar:  how to check the S.M.A.R.T logs??
[07:37] <dortiz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48487 Jul 27 00:20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:37] <dortiz> i get that
[07:38] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: with smartctl from smartmon-tools
[07:38] <dortiz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55913 Jul 27 00:11 /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[07:38] <theos> maybe latency is too high?
[07:38] <dortiz> and that one also
[07:38] <mumpitze1> theos: what mouse is it?
[07:38] <dortiz> I guess I wil just sell this laptop and get nvidia one seem to have no issue with nvidia
[07:39] <theos> mumpitze1 its an old IBM mouse. was cheap. but it worked fine on 10.04. then i installed 13.4 and it didnt work
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> totally depends on the exxact chipset i find theos ..
[07:39] <mumpitze1> yes, throw money at the problem. learning to solve problems is for losers, POOR losers
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> if getting a new laptop - avoid ones that have the dual gpu optimus stuff
[07:39] <dortiz> im will to learn
[07:39] <SunStar> sharpshooter,  try running from a live USB so you arent dealing with the computer freezing, then go into terminal and type "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" (no quotes, you can come in here while booted into the live CD in case you forget that command)
[07:39] <mumpitze1> dortiz: impossible to get them really. except maybe for crappy ones
[07:39] <mumpitze1> Dr_Willis: ^^  and it should be "impossible not to get them"
[07:40] <dortiz> nvidia on my desktop works great but i need laptop to bring to ruby rails meetups
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> dortiz:  if you are wanting a ubuntu only laptop. check out the various sites that sell them preinstalled with ubuntu.
[07:41] <dortiz> i guess i can use desktop for games and laptop mainly for coding
[07:41] <mumpitze1> dortiz: so can you pastebin the file or not?
[07:41] <sharpshooter> SunStar:  ok i checked the smartctl command and it show me ERROR" smartctl requires a device name as the final command -line argument which argument should i provide ?
[07:41] <dortiz> not sure sorry have to figure how to do that
[07:42] <sharpshooter> i mean device
[07:42] <theos> Dr_Willis oh so i have to find the chipset. let me see. thanks
[07:42] <mumpitze1> you want to program for the web but don't know how to open a file?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> dortiz:  install the pastebinit command 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[07:42] <mumpitze1> or use a pastebin?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> dortiz:  then 'pastebinit /path/to/the/file'
[07:42] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: the devicename for your harddisk
[07:42] <SunStar> sharpshooter,  i dont know i've never used it through the command line, i always use the graphical utility
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> sharpshooter:  such as /dev/sda   or /dev/sdb
[07:42] <dortiz> it is installing
[07:43] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: usually /dev/sda. but that won't help you, you need to do a long SMART test to test the harddisk afterwards
[07:43] <sharpshooter> yes I check it is /dev/sda
[07:44] <Wulf> apt-mark auto $(dpkg -l|awk '/^ii *linux-(image|headers)-3\.2\./{print $2}'); apt-get -y autoremove --purge
[07:44] <theos> Dr_Willis i have this mouse http://www.ceimall.com/sitefiles/product-780/IBM/MO32BO
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> theos:  i got a whold box of mices. ;)
[07:45] <dortiz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5917550/
[07:45] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1:  this is the output of smartctl  -a /dev/sda : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5917548/
[07:45] <dortiz> nice im learning few things
[07:45] <theos> Dr_Willis same model? :)
[07:45] <dortiz> nice community can't get this for windows
[07:46] <dortiz> thats why i love ubuntu
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> theos:  i must have a box of 30+ mice from over the years.. cant say ive ever had an issue with any of them on linux.
[07:46] <theos> oh
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> except for an occsional extra button or 2 on some of them.
[07:47] <theos> this used to work fine :(
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> does it work on other pcs?
[07:47] <dortiz> were is good site to buy laptop with ubuntu already installed
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> does it work on a live cd?
[07:47] <theos> also. kworker takes up 40-60% of cpu
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> dortiz:  system76, perhaps others.. i havent kept up with whos offering what these days
[07:48] <theos> i think its related to my connecting the mouse to the port
[07:49] <PukeTibet420> waddup cunts.
[07:49] <theos> hmm didnt try on other pcs. but it used to work on this same laptop in 10.04
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> theos:   untill you can prove otherwise.. assume its a hardware failure on the part of the mouse, cable, or usb port.
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> prove its not a hardware faliure. :)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> test with a 10.04 live cd perhaps. and on other pcs
[07:50] <Originooo> exit
[07:50] <theos> thats a better option. i will try it on 10.04
[07:51] <theos> thanks
[07:52] <mumpitze1> Dr_Willis: Cyborg RAT mice apparently do however (not a fault of linux but how they were designed)
[07:52] <ffio_> in ubuntu i can't use su ? i have to use sudo to get admin rights ?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> some of these weird gaming hardware are just weird
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ffio_:  you can su to users. but not to root. since root has no password by default
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ffio_:  sudo is how you get to root in ubuntu.. its by design.
[07:52] <ffio_> Dr_Willis: ok :)
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[07:53] <dortiz> so no way to get my ati driver to showup on the graphics detail
[07:53] <theos> kworker is using all of the cpu. is there any way to stop that?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> dortiz:  if the drivers no longer support that chipset - i wouldent think so. but i havent beenpaying attentionto your specifics. i dont use ati any more
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> killall kworker   (to kill it perhaps)
[07:53] <ffio_> thanks Dr_Willis
[07:54]  * Dr_Willis wonders whata kworker is.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> !find kworker
[07:54] <theos> its a kernel process i assume. is it advisable to kill it?
[07:54] <theos> !kworker
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> theos:  one way to find out. ;)
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> if its a kernel process - your user cant kill it i imagine
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> ps ax | grep kworker
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> seems i have several dozen kworker processes
[07:55] <theos> yes and one of mine is taking 47% of cpu
[07:56] <mumpitze1> dortiz: what is the output of glxinfo?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> ps ax | grep kworker
[07:56] <Dr_Willis>     5 ?        S<     0:00 [kworker/0:0H]
[07:56] <Dr_Willis>     6 ?        S      0:00 [kworker/u:0]
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> None of them seem to be using any cpu here at all.
[07:56] <dortiz> it says currently not installed
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> if im reading that right
[07:56] <theos> maybe its a bug
[07:57] <mumpitze1> dortiz: what is the exact output?
[07:57] <dortiz> The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[07:58] <dortiz> i guessill try that
[07:58] <mumpitze1> isn't that a helpful error message?
[07:58] <mumpitze1> *sigh*
[07:58] <dortiz> lol
[07:58] <theos> :)
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> theos, There are numerous threads on kworker at askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/search?q=kworker
[07:58] <mumpitze1> dortiz: it's nothing to laugh at
[07:58] <theos> dortiz after installing it, do glxinfo |grep -i render
[07:59] <Penyulap> I just arrived on this planet and when I typed "Find" to find a file and / as the path and the name of the file, it spits out completely everything. I didn't want everything, I just wanted to find the one file i was looking for on the hard drive. why won't 'find / filename' work ?
[07:59] <theos> thanks wilee-nilee
[07:59] <dortiz> no im laughing at myself for being such a noob
[07:59] <dortiz> but i have to start somewere
[08:00] <ffio_> dr_willis_: do ubuntu support if ubuntu based distro is made ?
[08:00] <ffio_> dr_willis_: can i pm you ?
[08:00] <dortiz> it says E: Invalid operation istall
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> ffio_, He is gone.
[08:00] <PukeTibet420> waddup cunts.
[08:00] <ffio_> wilee-nilee: :9
[08:00] <ffio_> wilee-nilee: :(
[08:01] <dortiz> so that didnt work
[08:01] <mumpitze1> dortiz: cause you did it wrong
[08:01] <dortiz> i copied exact words
[08:02] <mumpitze1> no you did not
[08:02] <dortiz> your right i tried again
[08:02] <mumpitze1> dortiz: you need to READ and ACT on error message. I won't handhold you
[08:02] <dortiz> np
[08:02] <dortiz> it is done
[08:03] <dortiz> sorry no hand holding i can certainly figure error messages out
[08:04] <dortiz> direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880     GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_AMD_conservative_depth,
[08:04] <dortiz> i get that now
[08:04] <ffio_> can i setup root for ubuntu ?
[08:05] <dortiz> thats much better than unknown
[08:06] <ubuntu89> how can i detect my friend's IP address while we message each others?
[08:06] <bekks> ffio_: What do you mean by "setup root"?
[08:06] <bekks> ubuntu89: Ask him.
[08:06] <ubuntu89> bekks he would refuse :D
[08:06] <dortiz> I should be ok with that driver i think
[08:06] <bekks> ubuntu89: Then you are not supposed to do what you are intending to do.
[08:07] <mumpitze1> ubuntu89: depends on the way you are messaging
[08:07] <ffio_> bekks: i don't want to use sudo always to do system related work. for that i want to setup root account by which using su i can log into it.
[08:07] <bekks> ffio_: You have to sudo once, only. sudo -i
[08:07] <ubuntu89> he is on my friends list .. i wanna jokking him only
[08:07] <dortiz> thanks mumpitzel have good night
[08:08] <mumpitze1> ubuntu89: friends list on what protocol?
[08:08] <bekks> ffio_: The root account is up and running and already setup. It has no password set, so login is deactivated for that account.
[08:08] <ubuntu89> https://www.facebook.com
[08:08] <bekks> !root | ffio_
[08:08] <mumpitze1> ubuntu89: you can't
[08:09] <ubuntu89> i was in a neatchat room app yesterday .. somebody told me my IP address
[08:09] <bekks> ubuntu89: That wasnt on Facebook.
[08:09] <mumpitze1> ubuntu89: do you have a ubuntu support problem?
[08:10] <cc0de> Hi there :)
[08:10] <exalt> hello i have a problem, when i run a command by cmd it works, when i make crontab run the same command it fails
[08:10] <exalt> why is this ?
[08:10] <Atlantic777> Hi guys! I've got an interesting situation. Something went wrong and I tried to restart X but then funny things started to happen. Computer is stucked with broken X, I can't go into tty and firstly I could log in through ssh but when I tryed to restart X from there, that ssh session got stuck too. Now I can't even log in through ssh, it prompts me for password, responds if the password is wrong but when I enter the right password, I can't g
[08:10] <ffio_> bekks: thanks for the info mate
[08:10] <Atlantic777> Here's ssh -vvv log, but I can see nothing interesting: https://paste.lugons.org/show/301joNKEOPI9J98e3thJ/
[08:10] <ubuntu89> mumpitzel:i wanna nobody detect my IP on my ubuntu
[08:10] <bekks> exalt: Then you are not issuing the full path to the binary you want to run. the crontab does not know anything about the PATH variable.
[08:11] <gordonjcp> Atlantic777: have you tried just powering the thing off and back on?
[08:11] <gordonjcp> Atlantic777: it sounds like you've tried everything else ;-)
[08:11] <exalt> bekks: /bin/bash -c "/usr/bin/python /srv/nieuws/backend.py grabber run"  >> /var/log/script_output.log 2>&1 ??
[08:12] <cc0de> i wanna update my source.list , any advices?
[08:12] <gordonjcp> Atlantic777: if you can't ssh in and can't log in from a console, that's often because something is using so much processor power that it takes forever to even get a terminal up - which usually indicates that things are really, really stuck there
[08:12] <mumpitze1> cc0de: why would you want to do it?
[08:12] <Atlantic777> gordonjcp: ah, and another thing... it's a laptop and I started uptime marathon. It's been 45 days now and I would like to try really everything before powering it off. Geek stuff. :/
[08:13] <cc0de> Hi mumpitze1, Cuz i'm using an old version of ubuntu, i need to install some packages using apt-get .. & its says theres no packages available on this source .. :/
[08:13] <Atlantic777> gordonjcp: no, I think it's not the case because if cpu is on such load, ssh wouldn't prompt me for password and probably wouldn't respond immidiatelly if I enter wrong password. Right?
[08:13] <bekks> exalt: Uselss use of bash I'd say :) Just run: /usr/bin/python /srv/nieuws/backend.py grabber run >> /var/log/script_output.log 2>&1
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !eol | cc0de
[08:13] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, hi i just testing my system with live session yet there is no freezing problem i found , and the smartctl  - a /dev/sda output is here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5917603/ is my system hardware having any issue or it is any videodriver issue ?
[08:13] <e0je> xorg searches for fglrx, i had it installed at one point but i removed it however it still tries to load it, how can i stop xorg from detecting it?
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> cc0de: we would recommend you installing a version from topic
[08:14] <mumpitze1> cc0de: generally your ubuntu has all repos it can have in its sources.list. upgrade to a newer, supported ubuntu version which provides the software you want
[08:14] <cc0de> Thanks .. but i'am using a penetration testing distribution, i'am using BlackBuntu
[08:14] <mumpitze1> e0je: by editing your xorg.conf. normally you can delete xorg.conf
[08:14] <bekks> cc0de: Which is not supported in here at all.
[08:14] <bekks> cc0de: Ask the balckbuntu support please.
[08:15] <cc0de> Okay :) Sorry 4that
[08:15] <ddssc> how do I empty the trash. I can't believe im asking this... lol
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> cc0de: also keep in mind older version might get you the target of pentesting :p
[08:15] <e0je> mumpitze1: I dont have xorg.conf its detected automatically by Xorg
[08:15] <cc0de> no .. LOL everything is updated, i just wanna update its source list
[08:16] <mumpitze1> e0je: chekc /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ then
[08:16] <Slart> ddssc: either using nautilus (right clicking on the trash icon on the desktop or I think you can go to "trash:" and you'll get an "empty trash" button there
[08:16] <mumpitze1> cc0de: we do not support blackbuntu. please respect that
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> cc0de: why not installing latest and install pentesting packages from regular ubuntu?
[08:16] <e0je> mumpitze1: no dont have those dir
[08:17] <cc0de> I wanna do that :D (y) thanks for advice guys
[08:17] <mumpitze1> e0je: then how is it looking for fglrx?
[08:17] <e0je> mumpitze1: http://pastebin.com/7A8xJ7UW
[08:17] <e0je> mumpitze1: i dunno
[08:18] <alejin> hello
[08:18] <e0je> thats my xorg log, mind you i have a lot of heads and two gfx cards 1 ati and 1 intel.....the VGA1 is giving me issues
[08:18] <mumpitze1> e0je: no problem there then
[08:18] <mumpitze1> unless you actually describe your issues
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> e0je: 2 grafix cards in one pc?
[08:19] <e0je> lotuspsychje: yes
[08:19] <e0je> its a meda dock actually
[08:20] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, when i rebooted my system last time the
[08:20] <sharpshooter>     The system is running in low-graphics mode
[08:20] <sharpshooter>     Your screen, graphics cards, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.
[08:21] <e0je> mumpitze1: xorg spits tries to load fglrx and errors like crazy then when everything is running VGA1 gives me wavy horizontal lines
[08:21] <e0je> VGA1 runs on intel i915 opensource
[08:22] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1,  should i reinstall my system or is there any solution that should i use ??
[08:22] <MarcWillis> Hello, I am having trouble booting ubuntu from a usb flashdrive onto my laptop which currently is running windows vista. I was wondering if its even possible to run ubuntu on a laptop, and if so, is it possible that my BIOS just does not support booting from a USB?
[08:23] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: this is not windows, reinstallation is not a solution.
[08:23] <ubuntu76> you can run ubuntu on laptop
[08:23] <mumpitze1> MarcWillis: unlikely, very unlikely that you can't boot from USB. and it's normally fine to run ubuntu on laptops
[08:24] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, ok I checked with alt+ctrl+f1 that is working perfectly i guess it the problem is related to my system video card ??
[08:24] <ubuntu76> check your bios to see if it shows up on the boot order if it does make it first to boot
[08:24] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, and there is no freezing in live session !
[08:25] <theos> so nobody else has kworker problem? :S
[08:25] <ubuntu76> if it is not there then bios does not support it
[08:25] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: could very well be. again: check for heat problems and do some troubleshooting
[08:25] <MarcWillis> It doesn't even show up as an option on the boot menu, it only displays "windows vista"
[08:26] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, i checked the heat all  temperature  shows below 65 only
[08:26] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: what videocard(s)?
[08:26] <ubuntu76> i would make a cd if you can be easier to install that way
[08:27] <mumpitze1> MarcWillis: it needs to show up in BIOS, not on the boot menu. what laptop is this?
[08:27] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, if the live session is working perfect means it not related to hardware right ?
[08:27] <mumpitze1> no it doesn't. drivers in the live session might be different
[08:28] <mumpitze1> !pm | MarcWillis
[08:29] <MarcWillis> mumpitze1: sorry, I am quite new to IRC chat
[08:29] <mumpitze1> so what laptop is it?
[08:30] <MarcWillis> it is a compaq
[08:30] <mumpitze1> compaq is not a laptop, is it?
[08:30] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1 : i use psensor in my ubuntu system and i check with that and also i enabled the notification in that app it is in below 65 only
[08:30] <ubuntu76> made by hp
[08:31] <mumpitze1> hp doesn't make a single laptop either
[08:31] <mumpitze1> and neither is hp a laptop
[08:31] <ubuntu76> oh thought compaq was hp brand
[08:31] <MarcWillis> sorry, its a presario CQ50
[08:31] <mumpitze1> it is. but hp hasn't made laptops for many years. clevo, foxconn, pegatron do
[08:32] <MarcWillis> but the brand is a compaq
[08:32] <mumpitze1> MarcWillis: that one certainly can boot from USB
[08:32] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, i got a solution in this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error i'm going to try it !
[08:32] <kafee> hi everybody
[08:33] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: is it running in this mode right now? of so, pastebing your Xorg.0.log instead
[08:33] <MarcWillis> So, I need to access the BIOS before the startup correct?
[08:33] <mumpitze1> yes
[08:34] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, sure
[08:36] <kafee> want to connect two monitors in my system, both should show half -half of my system screen, can any one help me out
[08:37] <kafee> i am having ubuntu os in it.
[08:37] <elky> kafee: plug them both in, then search for "displays" and choose that app, then un-tick "mirror"
[08:40] <jesus> ols
[08:40] <Guest48113> ols
[08:40] <Guest48113> ola
[08:40] <DestinyAwaits> Guys.. I am having some issues with ubuntu
[08:41] <Guest48113> la mejor distro es xubuntu
[08:41] <DestinyAwaits> I see connection established with my wifi but still not able to access the internet
[08:41] <DestinyAwaits> I don't know the reason
[08:41] <kafee> is this option present in Ubuntu
[08:41] <DestinyAwaits> 13.04
[08:42] <Guest48113> ubuntu vs xubuntu
[08:42] <Guest48113> win xubuntu
[08:42] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwaits: what wlan chipset and what does sudo iwlist scanning   spit out?
[08:43] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, this is my Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5917673/  (taken from my system that having freezing issue)
[08:43] <DestinyAwaits> dunno.. :( I haven't checked it for that I have to shutdown windows and boot into ubuntu again
[08:43] <DestinyAwaits> :(
[08:44] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwaits: so what chipset?
[08:44] <DestinyAwaits> Broadcom
[08:44] <DestinyAwaits> Using netbook 1215B Asus
[08:44] <mumpitze1> that's no chipset.
[08:44] <DestinyAwaits> ah ok
[08:45] <DestinyAwaits> I have given the model no. Will that help?
[08:45] <DestinyAwaits> Asus Netbook 1215B
[08:45] <mumpitze1> so if you have a connection established: do a "ping 8.8.8.8" if that works it's probably your DNS resolver that is broken. if it doesn,'t ping your router IP. if that doesn't work either then you have no connection and should show us your dmesg output
[08:46] <DestinyAwaits> ok what I do is shutdown windows again boot into linux and do the following..
[08:46] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwaits: it does not. e.g this eeepc 1215b has a ralink chipset: http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Asus-Eee-PC-1215B-Netbook.55266.0.html
[08:47] <DestinyAwaits> one thing here if the ping 8.8.8.8 is the problem ie the DNS Resolver how can i fix it?
[08:47] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1,  ?
[08:48] <ikonia> DestinyAwaits: ping is nothing to do with dns
[08:48] <DestinyAwaits> ah ok
[08:48] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwaits: put putting "nameserver 8.8.8.8" into your /etc/resolv.conf file and coming back here under ubuntu
[08:48] <mumpitze1> s/put/by/
[08:48] <ikonia> DestinyAwaits: don't do what mumpitze1 said
[08:48] <DestinyAwaits> so shall i boot into ubuntu and check again?
[08:48] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: your log looks fine
[08:48] <ikonia> DestinyAwaits: ubuntu uses dnsmaq so putting it in /etc/resolv.conf conf won't help
[08:48] <MarcWillis> mumpitse1: Thank you very much, it is working now. sorry for the PM's earlier
[08:48] <mumpitze1> ikonia: huh?
[08:49] <mumpitze1> ikonia: so ubuntu uses a different resolver than the one frm libc?
[08:49] <mooperd> ck
[08:49] <bInaRc01D> hello
[08:49] <ikonia> mumpitze1: it forwards requests to dnsmasq, that's why 127.0.0.1 is in resolv.conf
[08:49] <mumpitze1> ikonia: that wasn't the question
[08:50] <ikonia> and constantly overwrites resolv.conf to re-point it to dnsmasq
[08:50] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, here is my sensor temp : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5917689/
[08:50] <DestinyAwaits> Sorry to interupt guys shall I try booting into ubuntu and check ping command and dmesg?
[08:50] <mumpitze1> ikonia: and where does it store the actual authoritative DNS server?
[08:51] <ikonia> mumpitze1: it's something like /etc/resolv.conf.d/$something
[08:51] <DestinyAwaits> and if possible as dmesg is quite huge is there something in particular you are looking for?
[08:51] <ikonia> mumpitze1: I don't have an ubuntu box to check it at the moment
[08:51] <DestinyAwaits> so I can tell you that part only
[08:52] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwaits: just put it into a pastebin. it's the part about loading the drivers and connecting to the AP. I dunno if you know how to spot it which why it's better to pastebin it all
[08:52] <mooperd> I am setting up socks proxies with "ssh -D2001 root@ip". I would like to be able to see how much data is flowing over this socket. It is possible to use netcat to "scan" what is going on here and pipe it into pv?
[08:52] <mumpitze1> mooperd: and you run which distro exactly?
[08:52] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, so what is the possible solution for me  if i want to reinstall my display drive how can i do it ?
[08:52] <Anaxandridas> Hi, guys. I just installed Ubuntu a couple days ago, so I'm noob. I'm trying to get the latest stable version of Libreoffice, which is 4.0-something. The download off the software center only has LibreOffice 3,5. I tried installing it directly from the Libreoffice site, but the installer just doesn't seem to run. So I used the terminal code as it says here "http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/install-libreoffice-40-in-ubuntu-1204.h
[08:52] <Anaxandridas> tml", but it's still 3,5. Could someone help a noob out here? I don't know much about Linux, and most of my computer use is just typing.
[08:53] <DestinyAwaits> mumpitze1: ah ok.. I will try to join it ASAP.. Thanks a lot.. :)
[08:53] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: no need. there is nothing to reinstall with intel hd graphics
[08:54] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: it might be the bug in the askubuntu link you gave. you can try that workaround if you are willing
[08:55] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, ok thanks for you help :) i helped me a lot .
[08:55] <sharpshooter> your*
[08:55] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, ok thanks for your help :) it helped me a lot . ** typos !! ;)
[08:56] <chalcedony`> my husband is having a terrible time getting his computer to run again. it worked, we were gone for a few days, wouldn't boot. he configured a new drive at home, came back and trying it, it will only go in read-only safe mode. it's ubuntu 12.04 i think
[08:57] <megahoof> Goood morning =)
[08:57] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: dpkg -l |grep libreof; apt-cache policy libreoffice
[08:58] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1,  typed that in. I'm a complete noob to Linux, and not sure what any of that means, though.
[08:59] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: put the output of it all into a pastebin
[09:00] <Anaxandridas> http://pastebin.com/ysmk0Nr1 mumpitze1 thanks for the help.
[09:01] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, one more question here is the bug i experience I guess it has effect by the recent update kernel can i revert back my update to last stable working condition in my system is there any way ? i would love to know because all my personal project workspace is in this system
[09:01] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: you can use an older kernel of course
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | mumpitze1
[09:02] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, how did you know what it was that I needed to type in to the terminal to get that result? If I know that, I can save the next helpful person from having to tell me what to type into terminal.
[09:02] <e0je> lol
[09:02] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, sounds good for me how can I accomplish that any command or tool ?
[09:03] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: I need to know what libreoffice versions(s) are installed and where your apt will get them from when you try to install it. these two commands will tell me that
[09:03] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, or i want to download that previous version and compile it in my system ?
[09:03] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: you can but I wouldn't do it. downloading it from repos or packages.ubuntu.com is easier
[09:04] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: what kernel do you want? which version?
[09:04] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, I was asking how you knew what those two commands were. That way next time I have a stupid question, I already know the commands to get the information they need.
[09:05] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: knowledge about how the packaing system works
[09:05] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, i have no idea about the version's that i used i guess it will be latest update from ubuntu OS 13.04. and i have to revert back the kernal prior to it right ?
[09:08] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: IF it is a kernel issue. I was more thinnking about it being a displaymanager issue as described in that aksubuntu thread
[09:09] <mooperd> mumpitze1: osx, freebsd, ubuntu, debian and centos
[09:09] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, you mean lightDM ?
[09:09] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: "The greeter is invalid" one in your link, yes
[09:09] <sharpshooter> yes
[09:10] <mumpitze1> !pm | Anaxandridas
[09:10] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, sorry this was the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[09:10] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: there is no other answer except what I already wrote
[09:11] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, anyway am going to fix the lightdm first and the kernal option will be the last option
[09:11] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: if you want to lear, read documentation about the two commands, dpkg and apt-cache, learn how to use pipes with grep to filter output. those are good things to learn for managing your ubuntu system
[09:11] <chalcedony`> the error he gets is longish: Verifying DMI Pool data, then The system is running in Low Graphics Mode, your screen, graphics card, and input devices could not be detected correctly.. then "what would you like to do?" - but it can't see the keyboard  to do anything. help?
[09:11] <Mathcubes> Can anyone help me?
[09:11] <karven> What's wrong
[09:11] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, i am installing kernel first time what things should i consider ?
[09:11] <Mathcubes> #!/bin/bash
[09:12] <Mathcubes>  $A = "$(whoami)"
[09:12] <Mathcubes> echo $A
[09:12] <Mathcubes> What am I doing wrong?
[09:12] <DestinyAwait> Finally I have wifi working on ubuntu
[09:12] <DestinyAwait> :)
[09:12] <DJones> Mathcubes: Probably best asking in #bash (Could be ##bash)
[09:12] <DestinyAwait> It's /etc/resolv.conf
[09:12] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: probably the kernel is still there. dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[09:12] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwait: what was it?
[09:13] <DestinyAwait> I addded nameserver 8.8.8.8
[09:13] <chalcedony`> YAY DestinyAwait :)
[09:13] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, k
[09:13] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1, thanks !
[09:13] <chalcedony`> hi KindOne
[09:13] <DestinyAwait> mumpitze1: just added the nameserver entry thanks a lot
[09:13] <DestinyAwait> yea thanks
[09:13] <DestinyAwait> one more question
[09:13] <DestinyAwait> I do have some broken dependencies
[09:14] <DestinyAwait> :(
[09:14] <DestinyAwait> When I am trying to install a new package I was getting error to fix broken dependencies
[09:14] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwait: that's only a temporary solution ask ikonia mentioned what is the output of ls -l /etc/resolv*  ?
[09:14] <DestinyAwait> using apt-get -f
[09:14] <ikonia> DestinyAwait: as I told you - that is not the correct fix
[09:14] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwait: pastebin the output of your apt-get command into a pastebin
[09:14] <ikonia> DestinyAwait: it will keep breaking if you add things into /etc/resolv.conf
[09:14] <DestinyAwait> hmm
[09:15] <DestinyAwait> ok pasting the output
[09:15] <ikonia> DestinyAwait: output of what ?
[09:15] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwait: for both commands btw
[09:15] <DestinyAwait> ok
[09:15] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwait: I suggest you fix one problem first then the other.
[09:15] <chalcedony`> i'm afraid i really do need help?
[09:15] <DestinyAwait> ok
[09:16] <DestinyAwait> posting second
[09:16] <DestinyAwait> One is this: http://pastebin.com/XHdiNJNH
[09:17] <chalcedony`> he keeps restarting the computer, it's not seeing his hardware - monitor or keyboard
[09:17] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, not really sure what you want me to do from here. I gave you the pastebin you said you wanted in order to offer a solution. You didn't offer a solution. I PMd you saying I had time (which I do), so let me know when you're ready to tackle it, and you told me to not PM you on the grounds that you would help me here. Will you do so?
[09:17] <DestinyAwait> Second: http://pastebin.com/zA8VXu8G
[09:18] <mumpitze1> Amandil: sprry. dodm
[09:18] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: sorry, didn't see the link
[09:18] <ShotokanZH> hi all
[09:18] <DestinyAwait> mumpitze1: ikonia: Posted both the errors..
[09:18] <chalcedony`> DestinyAwait, part of the frustration of asking for help from volunteers who have work or real life things going
[09:18] <DestinyAwait> hi ShotokanZH
[09:18] <chalcedony`> hi ShotokanZH
[09:19] <DestinyAwait> chalcedony`: Sorry Mate..
[09:19] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: sudo apt-get upgrade   should install the newest libreoffice
[09:20] <Anaxandridas> It doesn't, though. I tried that, because I found that line while Googling.
[09:20] <DestinyAwait> chalcedony`: they requested me to post the output so I did it.. I will not direct to individuals
[09:20] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: apt-get install libreoffice-write libreoffice-common libreoffice-gtk     that should do it
[09:21] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, thank you.
[09:21] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwait: install the java6-jre
[09:21] <mumpitze1> !java
[09:21] <mumpitze1> the openjdk should be in the repos and easiest (and preferred) to install
[09:21] <DestinyAwait> mumpitze1:  I don't wanted to install it now.. as its not needed
[09:22] <DestinyAwait> I just wanted the error to go away
[09:22] <DestinyAwait> so I can apt-get install any other package
[09:22] <DestinyAwait> one more thing here
[09:23] <mumpitze1> DestinyAwait: it is needed
[09:24] <mumpitze1> or you need to uninstall your weechat or whatever needs java via dpkg -r
[09:24] <DestinyAwait> First when I issued the command sudo apt-get install weechat it said install dependency weechat-curses first.. When I said install sudo apt-get install weechat-curses it is saying me to install weechat-plugins first
[09:24] <DestinyAwait> :(
[09:24] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, this is the result of your recent advisement. http://pastebin.com/NBYJ16R5
[09:25] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, I AM using my main account,and have never had an issue installing anything. Not really sure why it's saying I don't have admin priviledge.
[09:25] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: a ubuntu user should know how to use sudo when installing software, no?
[09:26] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, I started using Ubuntu three days ago. Sorry. Trying again...
[09:27] <DestinyAwait> Ah resolved that jdk problem now using sudo dpkg -r davmail
[09:27] <DestinyAwait> it's kinda making the mess
[09:28] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, it is my understanding that as long as I type "sudo" in front of it, it should be running the command as root. Please explain what I'm doing wrong there, because it has the same result. I DID use sudo the first time. It simply lists all packages "kept back", 17 of them. All the ones I want.
[09:28] <DestinyAwait> So I was asking about this problem
[09:28] <DestinyAwait> First when I issued the command sudo apt-get install weechat it said install dependency weechat-curses first.. When I said install sudo apt-get install weechat-curses it is saying me to install weechat-plugins first
[09:28] <cha0z1> hi is there any way to force ubuntu 13.04 to use vpn dns server and not the 127.0.0.1 ( routers)
[09:29] <DestinyAwait> is there a way to issue the command such a way that all the depencies gets installed automatically?
[09:29] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: kept back mean it wasn't upgraded cause they would other packages to be uninstalled, or such
[09:29] <mumpitze1> *they would cause
[09:30] <mumpitze1> to quote a debian bot: <dpkg> i heard kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available.  This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "full-upgrade" and old
[09:30] <mumpitze1>              packages need to be removed as part of the upgrade.  To investigate, "aptitude -s install <kept-package>".  See also http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 and ask me about <full-upgrade>.
[09:30] <Anaxandridas> So, ultimately, how do I get an upgraded version of LibreOffice, mumpitze1?
[09:30] <Atlantic777> ssh nightmare update: I can exec remote commands with ssh -T. From dmesg it seems that fish (a shell) crashed so I tried to start bash and it doesn't work. From strace I can see that it fails on opening a tty. Very strange. If anyone has ideas... :D
[09:30] <Anaxandridas> updated*
[09:31] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: apt-get install libreoffice-writer
[09:32] <Atlantic777> cha0z1: 127.0.0.1 is the localhost so you use your own DNS server. Check out /etc/resolv.conf
[09:32] <Anaxandridas> We did that one, mumpitze1. It went through the motions of installing, but nothing had changed, which is why you gave me the update command.
[09:33] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: what motions?
[09:33] <mumpitze1> does apt-get install <package> install said package or not?
[09:33] <mumpitze1> and if you still don't understand how to prepend sudo to such a command you are on your own
[09:33] <Anaxandridas> Where it says a bunch of stuff about unpacking packages, counts down percentages, whatever. It looks in terminal like it IS installing it. But Libreoffice remains unchanged.
[09:34] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: dpkg -l |grep libreoffice   to check
[09:34] <Anaxandridas> mumpitze1, no matter how patronizing or demeaning you make a reference to it, I'm using sudo just like anyone else, as already established.
[09:34] <Anaxandridas> You already gave me that. I pasted the results...
[09:35] <mumpitze1> Anaxandridas: good luck solving your problems
[09:35] <Anaxandridas> I'll need it, considering the help I've gotten. Have a nice day.
[09:35] <mumpitze1> hint: after you do some stuff like installing packages, the installed package list might have changed, especially the versioning
[09:44] <Hexagonite> Anyone know an AMD driver with fast 2D performance?
[09:45] <e0je> radeon
[09:45] <mumpitze1> Hexagonite: which chip?
[09:45] <Hexagonite> mumpitze1: Radeon HD 6290
[09:46] <mumpitze1> then you have a choice between radeon and fglrx. choose your poison
[09:46] <mumpitze1> radeon probably still has awful powermanagement
[09:46] <Hexagonite> 'radeon' driver?
[09:46] <mumpitze1> yes
[09:46] <innerand> Hi! I would like to have a wav-(or flac)stream as "sound card". Any ideas how to do this?
[09:46] <mumpitze1> then one where you don't have to do anything. ubuntu uses it out of the box
[09:47] <Hexagonite> ohhh. that's what I'm actually using at the moment, but there are horizontal lines at some colors.
[09:47] <mumpitze1> innerand: to do what exactly?
[09:47] <Hexagonite> I tried fglrx but 2D is too slow
[09:48] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1:  great ! The system is working fine now I just used the advance option from grub and loaded the previous version of kernel now there is no freezing issue (uptime is 20 min now) :)
[09:48] <innerand> mumpitze1, I would like to use my squeezebox as sound output.
[09:49] <mumpitze1> sharpshooter: good luck
[09:49] <sharpshooter> mumpitze1:  thanks man ! :)
[09:49] <innerand> mumpitze1, so everything what would go to the soundcard should go as a wave stream to the squeezebox
[09:50] <Hexagonite> Is the brightness problem in xorg-edgers fixed now?
[09:50] <innerand> or flac to reduce network load
[09:55] <bleb> I'm trying to disable my thinkpad's tap-to-click without using a gui. Looking at xorg.conf.d, does anyone know what to do?
[09:56] <mJayk> bleb: i dont think it will be anything to do with x?
[09:57] <mumpitze1> bleb: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=111712  third post for example. is google so hard to use "Thinkpad linux disable tap to click"
[09:59] <ShotokanZH> hi all
[09:59] <ShotokanZH> anyone can help me with an ASUS k55vd?
[09:59] <ShotokanZH> i can't boot into kubuntu or ubuntu
[09:59] <ShotokanZH> windows 8 has the priority on it, it seems
[10:00] <ShotokanZH> the bios seems to boot directly the win8 partition instead of the mbr
[10:04] <hewhomust> Shoto, do you even get a grub menu?
[10:04] <mumpitze1> ShotokanZH: is secure boot off?
[10:05] <ShotokanZH> hewhomust, nope
[10:05] <ShotokanZH> mumpitze1, yes
[10:05] <hewhomust> where did you install grub to?
[10:05] <mumpitze1> ShotokanZH: go into BIOS and make it boot from USB (that is if you want to install ubuntu)
[10:05] <ShotokanZH> hewhomust, /dev/sda
[10:05] <hewhomust> k
[10:05] <ShotokanZH> mumpitze1, it's already installed, it simply does not boot grub
[10:06] <ShotokanZH> hewhomust, should be the pxe oprom boot disabled?
[10:07] <mumpitze1> UEFI?
[10:07] <hewhomust> yeah i had the same problem when i installed by uefi too
[10:07] <hewhomust> i had to actually boot into usb or cd
[10:07] <ShotokanZH> hewhomust, there's no way to bypass that??
[10:08] <hewhomust> shoto, what boot option did you use, there might be two things for the same usb?
[10:09] <ShotokanZH> hewhomust, i choose the uefi one
[10:09] <ShotokanZH> (right?)
[10:09] <hewhomust> thats the problem
[10:10] <hewhomust> the installation is slightly different from uefi than usb
[10:10] <ShotokanZH> hewhomust, have i to choose the normal one so?
[10:10] <ShotokanZH> not the one with 'uefi' in the name?
[10:10] <hewhomust> yes the usb option that should work
[10:10] <chunkyhead> how can i chat to other users logged in into the server? like is there a chatroom app on linux?
[10:11] <mumpitze1> chunkyhead: you are currently chatting to other users
[10:11] <ShotokanZH> hewhomust, now i try
[10:11] <hewhomust> ok
[10:12] <chunkyhead> how can i chat to other users logged in into the server? like is there a chatroom app on linux?
[10:12] <gordonjcp> chunkyhead: talk
[10:13] <chunkyhead> how can i chat to other users logged in into a linux server? like is there a chatroom app on linux? im looking for a cli app to chat with other users on cli
[10:13] <ShotokanZH> so i boot "generic flash disk" instead of "UEFI: generic flash disk"
[10:13] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:13] <hewhomust> yes
[10:13] <mumpitze1> chunkyhead: irssi
[10:13] <cristian_c> I've installed qt4-qtconfig
[10:14] <cristian_c> If I open the tool and I edit the font settings, clicking on File->Save, this string appears in the statusbar: 'Saved changes.'
[10:14] <chunkyhead> nooo not on irc mumpitze1. i have a vps. there are people logged in into that. how to send them messages
[10:14] <cristian_c> but if I close and reopen the tool, there are not the new settings anymore
[10:14] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[10:14] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:14] <mumpitze1> chunkyhead: maybe ytalk
[10:15] <poppingtonic> Hi.. Using ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a Acer AO751h
[10:16] <hewhomust> hi popp
[10:16] <poppingtonic> My sound just died after i woke my laptop, post-hibernation.
[10:16] <poppingtonic> hi hew
[10:16] <ShotokanZH> poppingtonic, why don't you upgrade to 13.04?
[10:17] <hewhomust> poppington, does no sound source work?
[10:17] <k1l> ShotokanZH: :/ please be helpfull
[10:18] <ShotokanZH> k1l, sorry but in ubuntu 13.04 they did a lot of bugfixing
[10:18] <ShotokanZH> i mean, they didn't change the graphic only xD
[10:19] <hewhomust> shoto, sucessfully boot into usb?
[10:19] <poppingtonic> hew: it started out really low, and now I can't hear a thing. A quick look at my speakers, and it doesn't look like dust caused the problem. Plus, I cleaned it a few weeks ago.
[10:19] <hewhomust> can you open alsamixer and paste the screen
[10:20] <ShotokanZH> hewhomust, installed the whole os again and now it's booting, thank ya dude <3
[10:20] <hewhomust> np
[10:20] <k1l> poppingtonic: sometimes moduls dont get loaded when waking up after suspend. you could searhc on that
[10:20] <poppingtonic> hewhomust: which mode? Playback?
[10:21] <hewhomust> poppington, how many reboots have you had after this issue started?
[10:22] <poppingtonic> none.
[10:22] <hewhomust> i would seriously try it first and see if it still doesnt work
[10:29] <akaWolf> hello! can you help me? I've got error: "Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE"
[10:30] <JainAmber> Hello
[10:31] <JainAmber> I'll like to get the distro version name (e.g. lucid or precise) from a command (so that I can pipe this output to another command). How can I find the ubuntu version name?
[10:32] <hewhomust> jain type this into terminal lsb_release -a
[10:32] <fecub> akaWolf: when does it happen?
[10:32] <hewhomust> it should tell you the distro name
[10:32] <utfans05> JainAmber, you can also do uname -a
[10:33] <dotcom> Hello there. I just looked at logs using dmesg. There is a constant message of some error like "76.168711] Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" , "88.340566] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0"
[10:34] <dotcom> What does this mean? And how do i rectify it?
[10:34] <utfans05> dotcom, may have a bad sector on your hard drive.
[10:34] <Wally> Is it okay to install Ubuntu into a VM and then use the USB stick used in the VM on another computer?
[10:34] <akaWolf> fecub: when I try to mount device under user
[10:34] <akaWolf> fecub: mount /dev/...
[10:35] <dotcom> Here's the complete log, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5917909/
[10:35] <utfans05> akaWolf, are you doing it as sudo?
[10:35] <JainAmber> Thanks hewhomust
[10:35] <hewhomust> np
[10:35] <akaWolf> utfans05: no
[10:35] <utfans05> akaWolf, try it as sudo and see if it works.
[10:35] <dotcom> utfans05, are you sure fd0 device represents my hard disk?
[10:36] <akaWolf> utfans05: I see, but I not want do it as sudo...
[10:36] <utfans05> dotcom, im double checking your log. gimme a minute please.
[10:36] <fecub> akaWolf: i know this problem, you must install ntfs-3g and then you can mount it with sudo ntfs-3g /dev/<handle> <mountpunkt> -o force
[10:36] <dotcom> sure
[10:36] <fecub> akaWolf: test it before with "sudo" :) sudo mount
[10:36] <akaWolf> fecub: I have ntfs-3g installed
[10:37] <ShotokanZH> do anyone know if ubuntu now fully supports the nvidia graphic cards+intel hd ones?
[10:37] <poppingtonic> success.
[10:37] <akaWolf> fecub: UUID=E614A27C14A24F7D /media/1.5Tb auto defaults,user 0 0 -- in fstab
[10:37] <utfans05> dotcom, sorry thats a floppy drive.
[10:37] <akaWolf> fecub: it's right?
[10:38] <utfans05> dotcom, are you running on some old hardware or something special?
[10:38] <Slart> ShotokanZH: I'm not sure if you can switch like you can on windows but, at least on my laptop, I can use the intel one and probably the nvidia one separately.. ie reboot inbetween switching
[10:39] <dotcom> utfans05: I am not running some special hardware and my pc configuration is also not that old. And by the way, my computer has no floppy drive.
[10:39] <ShotokanZH> Slart, do you've a bios switch for that or a linux option?
[10:39] <utfans05> ShotokanZH, it is possible, i have a few friends at work that use the built in optimus hardware in their laptops. I however do not know exactly how to do it. but there are some guides out there on how to do it.
[10:39] <dotcom> utfans05: Can i just disable that fd0 device?
[10:40] <utfans05> dotcom, check your bios and make sure its not trying to auto detect a floppy drive.
[10:40] <Slart> ShotokanZH: I have a bios switch but I think I have to do stuff in linux as well.. ie set what graphics device X should use and so on
[10:40] <Slart> ShotokanZH: it's been a while since I messed with it
[10:40] <QTPieMan> dotcom, arnt u on the ##hardware ?
[10:40] <utfans05> dotcom,  you could also blacklist the driver for your floppy if you want to get into it.
[10:41] <fecub> akaWolf: i don't know. hmm try it with "sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda /media/mountfolder" Create befrore a folder in /media. And for sda you look in your /dev/sd[a-z]
[10:42] <akaWolf> fecub: I already try that, it't not work (
[10:42] <akaWolf> s*
[10:43] <utfans05> akaWolf, is it producing any error messages?
[10:43] <fecub> akaWolf: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34731/howto-auto-mount-windows-partitions-using-etc-fstab
[10:44] <dotcom> utfans05: Thank you. Yes, maybe i should disable that module. And i will also look into BIOS.
[10:44] <stroodlepup> hi
[10:44] <dotcom> QTPieMan: Yes
[10:44] <hewhomust> hi stroodle
[10:44] <stroodlepup> are there ftp servers for synaptic
[10:44] <stroodlepup> ?
[10:44] <utfans05> dotcom, sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf < "blacklist floppy" will put in entry into your blacklist file that will keep it from loading.
[10:44] <QTPieMan> dotcom, hm
[10:44] <akaWolf> fecub: my fstab write accordingly this answer, but it's not work...
[10:45] <Wulf> stroodlepup: eh?
[10:45] <akaWolf> utfans05: yes, like at this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34731/howto-auto-mount-windows-partitions-using-etc-fstab
[10:45] <Wulf> stroodlepup: synaptic is touchpad, right?
[10:45] <Nanashi> This is what my ntfs partition mount looks like:
[10:45] <Nanashi> /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[10:45] <stroodlepup> i meant synaptic package manager :)
[10:45] <Wulf> stroodlepup: ah, that one. Why do you want ftp server for it?
[10:46] <marz> Where can I configure CLASSPATH for Java?
[10:46] <Wulf> export CLASSPATH=... ?
[10:47] <utfans05> akaWolf, can you post the exact error please.
[10:47] <stroodlepup> marz, you can add export CLASSPATH= on your .bashrc file :)
[10:48] <marz> stroodlepup: I'm sorry for asking, but what is the .bashrc file for?
[10:48] <stroodlepup> open nautilus, then ctrl + h
[10:48] <akaWolf> utfans05: Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE
[10:48] <akaWolf> library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated
[10:48] <akaWolf> FUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at
[10:48] <akaWolf> http://tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged
[10:48] <akaWolf> sorry, larga text
[10:48] <FloodBot1> akaWolf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:48] <akaWolf> large*
[10:48] <utfans05> no its fine.
[10:48] <stroodlepup> it will show .bashrc in your home folder :)
[10:49] <utfans05> akaWolf, stupid question, have you rebooted?
[10:49] <akaWolf> utfans05: for what, sorry? :)
[10:49] <stroodlepup> so,
[10:50] <utfans05> akaWolf, if you read the solution on the page that you just linked to me, a reboot fixed his error. it may fix it for you also.
[10:50] <akaWolf> utfans05: ah, that very strange, but I try :)
[10:50] <utfans05> akaWolf, lemme know if it works after reboot.
[10:51] <akaWolf> utfans05: yeah
[10:55] <joshu> hi I'm trying to use check install to create a package that I can distribute to other machines
[10:55] <joshu> I have the following command string: "sudo checkinstall -fstrans=no -install=no -pkgversion="1.1.0-beta1" -pkgname=freerdp -y -requires=libavcodec53"
[10:55] <akaWolf> utfans05: no, it's not work for user, but automount work
[10:56] <akaWolf> (after system start all drive in fstab mount automatic)
[10:56] <nyl> hey has any got the new nvidia drivers to work properly
[10:56] <joshu> when I deploy this on another machine using sudo dpkg -i *.deb it gives me an error that the package dependency libavcodec53 is not met. I thought the *.deb would install this dependency automatically. What have i missed?
[10:57] <utfans05> akaWolf, so now the drive is there?
[10:57] <akaWolf> utfans05: but I (just user, not root) not have permission to mount/umount devices
[10:58] <Raziel2p> anyone know of a way to get a notification in the shell when trying to edit a file you don't have write access to?
[10:58] <akaWolf> utfans05: drive after reboot here )
[10:58] <utfans05> akaWolf, im pretty sure you have to be sudo to mount/unmount a drive.
[10:58] <moza> Hello
[10:59] <akaWolf> utfans05: KDE do it without root permission )
[11:00] <babinlonston> alfreddba: u there
[11:00] <utfans05> Raziel2p, the file will not allow a user to edit it if they do not have the correct permissions. im unsure if it puts a log entry or command line message.
[11:00] <moza> I want to make my radon 9550 (rv350) graphics card send in 16:9 to a TV instead of 4:3. I think i might lack som drivers. Is there a specific place to find them or is 16:9 another kind of issue?
[11:00] <joshu> cross posting in ubuntu-server
[11:00] <utfans05> moza, have you already installed the ati drivers?
[11:01] <Raziel2p> utfans05, I know that, I'm just sick of making edits to config files only to find out I've forgotten to sudo
[11:01] <moza> no utfans05, the drivers are those given with the cd, from the original 13.04 ubuntu install
[11:02] <utfans05> moza, you can either research how to do it through xrandr or you can install the ati drivers and try to do it through the ati gui.
[11:02] <utfans05> Raziel2p, i understand how annoying that can be.
[11:02] <utfans05> Raziel2p, but idk of any packages/addons that will do that for ya.
[11:02] <utfans05> Raziel2p, are you doing alot of editing in command line or all through the gui?
[11:03] <nyl> on xrandr it shown me program version 1.3.5
[11:03] <nyl> and server version 1.4
[11:03] <nyl> o_O
[11:03] <utfans05> nyl, thats fine.
[11:03] <Raziel2p> utfans05, linux servers
[11:04] <nyl> utfans05, had to reinstall ubuntu, and try again to install the new 319 nvidia drivers
[11:04] <Raziel2p> I was sure crunchbang had something like this out of the box, but I can't find out what it actually was
[11:04] <utfans05> Raziel2p, my suggestion would be to do a ls -alh before opening it in (insert editor you choose) and checking who the file belongs to.
[11:05] <utfans05> nyl, i currently dont run the nvidia drivers on my laptop i use for linux. as far as i know all you should have to do is "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" and that will install the current stable nvidia drivers.
[11:05] <tlopez> I am trying to create a live usb stick
[11:05] <tlopez> with 12 GB persistence
[11:06] <utfans05> tlopez, have you tried unetbootin?
[11:06] <nyl> utfans05, the problem is that my laptop is optimus xD
[11:06] <tlopez> I have the stick in 2 parts 3Gb FAT and 15 GB ntfs
[11:06] <utfans05> nyl, oh....
[11:06] <utfans05> um.
[11:06] <tlopez> unetbootin is linux program?
[11:06] <utfans05> you have want to do some google searching, i dont know how to get it working properly.
[11:06] <utfans05> tlopez, yes.
[11:07] <utfans05> tlopez, in a command line type sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[11:07] <utfans05> that will dl it for you.
[11:07] <nyl> 319 drivers have optimus support but i think they need 3.9 kernel
[11:07] <tlopez> and unetbootin can make a stick with persistence of 15GB?
[11:08] <utfans05> nyl, im unsure.
[11:08] <utfans05> tlopez, IIRC yes.
[11:08] <nyl> is 3.9 kernel RC status?
[11:08] <utfans05> im unsure what you mean by RC status
[11:08] <nyl> release candidate
[11:09] <utfans05> 1 sec. lemme see
[11:10] <utfans05> nyl, take a look here. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-current
[11:10] <utfans05> it should list what is included in nvidia-current.
[11:10] <utfans05> looks like its only 3.04
[11:10] <utfans05> sorry
[11:10] <utfans05> 304
[11:10] <nyl> yea, the new ones are still in beta
[11:11] <utfans05> you can always try going to the nvidia website and getting one from that.
[11:11] <utfans05> although i cannot guarantee that it will work.
[11:11] <nyl> installed the newest one and xorg crashed not detecting nvidia card
[11:12] <nyl> even tough i specified the bus id of it
[11:12] <utfans05> you can try to uninstall nvidia-current and then dl the one from nvidia and try it.
[11:12] <utfans05> how fresh is your install.
[11:12] <nyl> just reinstalled it
[11:13] <nyl> also i got no hdmi sound
[11:13] <utfans05> im thinking a worst case scenario to where if something goes really bad you can just reinstall...
[11:13] <utfans05> the hdmi sound is a different issue.
[11:13] <utfans05> thats got to do with alsa and pulse
[11:14] <nyl> nvidia
[11:15] <utfans05> hrm, ive seen a ton of guys that have had to swap which audio driver they were using to get hdmi to work properly.
[11:15] <utfans05> but i could be wrong.
[11:15] <utfans05> lol
[11:15] <nyl> lol, i rather us aux out then xD
[11:16] <utfans05> yeah, even in my windows 7 box my hdmi audio is wacky
[11:16] <je0rJey> hi, i'm not able to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer  package on my ubuntu 13.04 .  apt-get gives the error  "Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:16] <je0rJey>   File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader", line 234, in process_download_requests
[11:16] <je0rJey>     dest_file = urllib.urlretrieve(files[i])[0]
[11:16] <je0rJey>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib.py", line 94, in urlretrieve
[11:16] <je0rJey>     return _urlopener.retrieve(url, filename, reporthook, data)
[11:16] <FloodBot1> je0rJey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <je0rJey>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/urllib.py", line 284, in retrieve
[11:16] <utfans05> !pastebin | je0rJey
[11:16] <utfans05> i believe it put you in a quite status so you may want to change your name and come back.
[11:17] <je0rJey> !pastebin
[11:18] <hewhomust> !pastebinit
[11:18] <utfans05> je0rJey, run a sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade then try to reinstall
[11:27] <guest-wwnPFc> hello guys - i just got update from gnome-ppa
[11:27] <utfans05> ok
[11:27] <guest-wwnPFc> and it killed gnome-shell and libgdm ( some package conflict)
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !ppa|guest-wwnPFc,
[11:27] <guest-wwnPFc> now im having issue forcing lightdm to use Ubuntu (unity) session
[11:28] <guest-wwnPFc> cfhowlett, i dont want to purge a ppa - lightdm still tries to log me using gnome-shell that is not present
[11:28] <guest-wwnPFc> !lightdm
[11:28] <dmfeld22> anybody have a fix, other than 'apt-get <whatever>, for the ubuntu software center nightmare?
[11:28] <guest-wwnPFc> i removed $HOME/.dmrc
[11:29] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, "nightmare" ?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, what is it you want to install
[11:29] <utfans05> dmfeld22, yeah nightmare? wahts going on?
[11:29] <guest-wwnPFc> and /var/cache/lightdm/username.dmrc
[11:29] <guest-wwnPFc> but it still tries to log me using non-existant session :/
[11:29] <dmfeld22> yeah, it wont let me download, update or upgrade amything
[11:29] <jost> Hi! I'm trying to build a Raid 1 here, adding a new empty disk mirroring my old main harddisk. The system has a Asus P5N-D mainboard with XUbuntu, the P5N-D has a NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI chipset on it. Now I can create a raid 1 from the two disks, but when trying to boot from the raid, I get a screen with a blinking prompt and nothing else on it. What is wrong?
[11:29] <utfans05> dmfeld22, are you doing it as root?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> !raid|jost,
[11:30] <dmfeld22> no, i should probably try that
[11:30] <utfans05> dmfeld22, yes it wont work unless you are root or add sudo before apt-get
[11:31] <dmfeld22> i am using sudo
[11:31] <jost> cfhowlett: thanks
[11:31] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, minor detail like that actually matter sometimes ...
[11:31] <luciie> hi here
[11:31] <cfhowlett> luciie, greetings
[11:31] <luciie> i've lost my vista password :(
[11:31] <dmfeld22> I'm not that lame
[11:32] <cfhowlett> luciie, sorry.  this is ubuntu.  you want #windows.  good luck
[11:32] <auronandace> luciie: windows help in ##windows
[11:32] <luciie> Oh, sure.
[11:32] <alfreddba> hi mallus
[11:33] <matrixa1> http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4082556 who has already bought one?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !touch|matrixa1,
[11:36] <max64> http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-07-27_13_34_38-LrUg0V8h.png   need help plz
[11:36] <dmfeld22> cfhowlett, utfans, there's been several requests to fix this on both ubuntu and blackbuntu forums, no one has anything that works
[11:36] <utfans05> dmfeld22, what error is it throwing?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, what is it you're trying to install?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !details|dmfeld22,
[11:37] <matrixa1> max64, it seems crossover-pro needs to be uninstalled before you can install crossover
[11:37] <guest-wwnPFc> so any ideas how to set default DM to ubuntu again? its being overwritten from some place every time i log in
[11:38] <dmfeld22> internet commection failed
[11:38] <dmfeld22> connection
[11:39] <max64> matrixal:it isnt synaptic package..i installed it manually..how to remove it?
[11:39] <dv-> guest-wwnPFc: display manager? the default should be the last one you installed
[11:39] <jost> Ok, I've read the wiki about fakeRAID (thats what I want). Is there a way to make it work _without_ reinstalling all my OSes? Especially Ubuntu?
[11:39] <matrixa1> max64, in a terminal type:  sudo apt-get remove crossover-pro
[11:39] <dmfeld22> and failed to download repository informayion
[11:40] <matrixa1> max64, wait, you mean that this isn't a .deb packadge at all?
[11:41] <dmfeld22> I'm running blackbuntu, latest release, the apt-gets return error 404
[11:41] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, ok, I'll take a crack at this.  run sudo apt-get update and tell us what it says.
[11:41] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, blackbuntu? not supported here.
[11:41] <dmfeld22> the install button in software center is grayed out
[11:41] <guest-wwnPFc> dv-, yeah but gnome-shell got removed (broken dependancy), and lightdm doesnt show session type picker, so it tries to log me into gnome-shell, when only unity is present, so i can only use guest account :/
[11:41] <utfans05> dmfeld22, ive never heard of blackbuntu.
[11:42] <cfhowlett> utfans05, superduper NSA proof distro or some such ... pen testing maybe?
[11:42] <max64> matrixal:it was .deb downloaded from 4shared.com not the official website
[11:42] <dv-> guest-wwnPFc: it never shows which session you want or it's just broken now?
[11:43] <matrixa1> max64, oh, then "sudo apt-get remove crossover-pro" should work - it should also pop up in the synaptic package manager
[11:43] <dmfeld22> a whole boat load of 'failed to fetch... error 404
[11:44] <Ergo^> dv-, yes it just doesnt allow me to pick any session - because it performs a check if executable is present, so i have no UI to pick unity, and it still tries to log me using shell, annoying as hell :/
[11:44] <max64> matrixa1:i excuted what you told me .. it worked successfully .. 1.000 thanks to you ^_^
[11:44] <dmfeld22> blackbuntu is a kali/ BT version based on ubuntu
[11:44] <Ergo^> okk..... i performed dist upgrade
[11:44] <utfans05> cfhowlett, nothing is nsa proof... lol
[11:44] <Ergo^> and it seems gnome-shell is being installed again
[11:44] <Ergo^> that will solve it - kinda
[11:44] <matrixa1> max64, kickass
[11:44] <Ergo^> :/
[11:45] <cfhowlett> utfans05, I know.  :O
[11:45] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, sorry but we can't help you.   BB is not supported here.
[11:45] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, ask in
[11:45] <cfhowlett> #blackbuntu
[11:45] <dmfeld22> yeah, there's only one other lomely dude on the blackbuntu channel
[11:46] <dmfeld22> lonely
[11:46] <dv-> Ergo^: if the problem is that gnome-shell executable doesn't exist you could just link /bin/true to it to pass the "test"
[11:46] <cfhowlett> dmfeld22, maybe that should tell you something ...
[11:46] <dmfeld22> and all the blackbuntu help centers take us to the ubuntu forums, which still in hack recovery
[11:46] <James0r2> what release of ubuntu would be best for a netbook?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> james-ubc, depending on the age of the book... but xubuntu or lubuntu should run wonderfully
[11:47] <utfans05> James0r2, try bodhi linux.
[11:47] <utfans05> James0r2, its ubuntu based with enlightenment on top of it. its really fast.
[11:47] <batmite> bodhi is definitely worth a try.  great distro
[11:47] <James0r2> utfans05: yeah? i'm on Lubuntu right now and i'm not too psyched about it. it's simple and lightweight as promised but just too unpolished for me
[11:48] <batmite> james0r2: just google around for hardware compatibility. I run multiple OS's on my cheap little netbook with no problems.
[11:48] <James0r2> utfans05: batmite : thx i'll check it out
[11:49] <James0r2> batmite: yeah i messed around with a few, all ubuntu based, Linux Mint 13 xfce, Linux 15 Mate and now on Lubuntu
[11:49] <utfans05> James0r2, i run bodhi on a 3-4 year old dell mini with really shitty hardware and it worked great out the box.
[11:49] <James0r2> utfans05: nice i like the sound of that.
[11:49] <James0r2> I tried Fedora first but just couldn't get the wifi working. which was a killer.
[11:50] <batmite> broadcom?
[11:50] <James0r2> batmite: uhh i think so. or Atheros?
[11:50] <James0r2> i think broadcom
[11:50] <batmite> yeah.
[11:51] <James0r2> i love my netbook actually. just bought a Asus x45c, i3 with 2gigs memory laptop and i just rather use my netbook most of the day
[11:52] <batmite> same here
[11:52] <utfans05> James0r2, yeah right now im on craigslist trying to find an extra pc that in can take to work for a 2nd pc. I need an extra 2-3 monitors on my desk and i know that bodhi will run on just about anything. all id need to do was add in a decent video card.
[11:52] <batmite> well, i bought a cheap acer lol
[11:52] <James0r2> got so comfortable with the small keyboard. i'm learning java and thinking eventually i'll appreciate the bigger workspace of the Asus though
[11:53] <James0r2> utfans05: that's the thing, i'm trying to avoid any hardware upgrades out here. i live in vietnam and getting stuff, reliable stuff, at a decent price can be rough
[11:53] <James0r2> well shopping in general. but yeah for cpu hardware especially
[11:54] <James0r2> batmite: so Enlightenment is the DE on Bodhi?
[11:54] <utfans05> James0r2, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119074 LOL it would work...
[11:54] <utfans05> yes
[11:54] <utfans05> enlightenment is the DE on bodhi.
[11:55] <James0r2> naw i'm pretty set for hardware
[11:55] <James0r2> if it doesn't work with the distro i find a fix or change distros
[11:55] <utfans05> James0r2, im looking at that for a possible work pc... doesnt need to be super fast. just needs to run linux and let me get on the web.
[11:56] <James0r2> utfans05: okay. i'll have to read up. i know nothing about it
[11:56] <James0r2> utfans05: there ya go. since ive found these lightweight OS's i've been thinking of the possibilities. Two systems is enough for me at the moment though :)
[11:56] <batmite> "needs to run linux" says your work? or you? :)
[11:59] <utfans05> LOL
[11:59] <utfans05> batmite, i work at rackspace...im a linux support tech.
[11:59] <James0r2> utfans05: is Bodhi ubuntu based? can i run the Ubuntu software on it? probably a noob question but i'm a noob to linux
[12:01] <utfans05> James0r2, it runs synaptic
[12:01] <batmite> utfans05: cool. i do telephone/voip systems and some networking. find it strange that no one in my company uses linux.
[12:01] <utfans05> i never use the gui to install anything.
[12:01] <James0r2> utfans05: i'm really new to linux but i'm not too unfamiliar with command line so i'm kinda split
[12:02] <utfans05> batmite, heres the thing... everyone thinks its hard to use...
[12:02] <batmite> i know!
[12:02] <utfans05> James0r2, command line lets you do soooooo much more~!
[12:02] <batmite> <3 bash
[12:02] <James0r2> yeah and i've been finding the software managers / package managers to be kinda buggy
[12:02] <utfans05> James0r2, yeah they can be.
[12:02] <je0rJey> hi i'm not able to install ms fonts through apt.. please find the error message  here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5918131/
[12:03] <cfhowlett> je0rJey, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:03] <James0r2> i see a lot of this 'check the md5' stuff these days. is it really that common to have file integrity problems?
[12:03] <je0rJey> @ utfans05 , i tried update & upgrade as well.. and rebooted my system but still it crashes at the downloading of trebuchet font
[12:04] <batmite> utfans05: my boss gave me a copy of xp sp3 and a bunch of proprietary software (term emulators etc) on my first day. never touched any of it.. now he thinks im a genius.
[12:04] <cfhowlett> James0r2, sure.  so much data downloaded, so many chances of error
[12:04] <je0rJey> cfhowlett, ubuntu-restricted-extras is already installed but still i dont see the andale mono font
[12:04] <James0r2> i don't have that app to make live usb's on lubuntu. anyone happen to know the package i can download?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> James0r2, unetbootin
[12:04] <batmite> unetbootin.  but u should learn how to use "dd" in the terminal
[12:04] <utfans05> je0rJey, sounds line an issue with the package
[12:04] <James0r2> cfhowlett: thx
[12:05] <James0r2> batmite: man the gui i tried on LInux Mint worked like a charm though
[12:05] <utfans05> James0r2, i perfer dd over unetbootin. not that unetbootin isnt nice but dd is so much more powerful.
[12:06] <je0rJey> i tried downloading the source , but its a virtual package, and there was no file in it where i could provide alternate source..
[12:06] <James0r2> utfans05: ahh okay. yeah i'm just making live usb's for trying different distros.
[12:06] <James0r2> utfans05: not much more
[12:07] <utfans05> James0r2, yeah unetbootin will work fine.
[12:07] <batmite> James0r2: yeah. ive run into a few distros that unetbootin cant seem to get right. trust me, google "dd linux" its one line of code :)
[12:07] <James0r2> so is this chan strictly for Ubuntu users? or is it kinda for linux users in general?
[12:07] <utfans05> je0rJey, yeah unsure whats going on there. probably a package issue.
[12:07] <James0r2> batmite: k i'll check it
[12:07] <utfans05> James0r2, this is strictly ubuntu. alot of the distros have their own channels.
[12:08] <je0rJey> utfans05, is there is anywhere i can find a deb file for getting the ms fonts?
[12:08] <utfans05> je0rJey, a google search maybe... maybe...
[12:08] <songtao> hello everyone, I have using openvpn connect to my office, but it could not solve the cname. my first question is how do I find my openvpn dns server ip ?, and where did I add the dns to ? '/etc/resolv.conf' file ?
[12:09] <utfans05> but if the package is having issues then all the ones may be.
[12:09] <utfans05> songtao, does the vpn use cisco encryption?
[12:10] <songtao> utfans05, do not know, I just download the client.ovpn, it all configed
[12:10] <longcat__> free coupon for codeschool, first come first serve :) http://go.codeschool.com/yp6ONw
[12:10] <James0r2> utfans05: is theming a big deal with Bodhi linux?
[12:10] <DJones> longcat__: Please don't spam
[12:11] <utfans05> James0r2, i run the stock themes so i havent played around with them. but if you join bodhilinux i bet theres someone in there that has messed with them.
[12:11] <alfreddba> 30 4 * * * /bin/bash -l -c 'backup perform -t canvas_file_store_backups --config-file /home/sysadmin/Backup/config.rb'  -- not working as a root user...pls help me
[12:11] <utfans05> or check the bodhi forums.
[12:12] <James0r2> utfans05: yeah i slowly get into that stuff. i'll stick with stock at first.
[12:12] <utfans05> James0r2, the stock ones are really nice tho
[12:13] <James0r2> so when people say that Arch Linux is such difficult distro for beginners why exactly is that? question for anybody.
[12:13] <cfhowlett> James0r2, rather offtopic, yes?
[12:13] <batmite> try to install it, you'll see ;)
[12:13] <utfans05> James0r2, you have to do a command line install.
[12:13] <DJones> James0r2: Thats not a topic for #Ubuntu, might be worth asking it in ##linux which is a general linux channel
[12:14] <alfreddba> 30 4 * * * /bin/bash -l -c 'backup perform -t canvas_file_store_backups --config-file /home/sysadmin/Backup/config.rb'  -- not working as a root user...pls help me
[12:14] <utfans05> James0r2, and it doesnt come with a gui, you have to lay the gui over it.
[12:14] <James0r2> cfhowlett: totally offtopic. just been hearing so many people mentioning that distro and i'm curious
[12:14] <jrib> James0r2: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> alfreddba  did you put that in root's crontab, or in the user's?
[12:14] <jrib> alfreddba: give full path to the "backup" program
[12:15] <James0r2> yikes. yeah i'll take that up somewhere else
[12:15] <utfans05> James0r2, if you have any questions feel free to pm me
[12:15] <alfreddba> jrib: i will try..
[12:18] <whowantstolivef1> hi, i use ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i have 25 gb size hard disk, i work on wmware and i dont know how to expand of my root path size ? i mount extra size from wmware. ?
[12:19] <jarco> hello all. When trying to play the game Verdun I get this error when I try to start it: ./Verdun: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. How can I solve this? I tried installing the package but it is not found
[12:22] <whowantstolivefo> hi, i use ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i have 25 gb size hard disk, i work on wmware and i dont know how to expand of my root path size ? i mount extra size from wmware. ??
[12:23] <Slart> jarco: sometimes games are just distributed as 32-bit binaries even for 64bit systems.. it might be an issue with you not having a 32 bit version of libglu installed.. but that's just a guess
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> whowantstolivefo  "expand of my root  path size"?
[12:23] <whowantstolivefo> MonkeyDust: yes i have 400 mb left and it flashing me warning
[12:23] <jarco> Slart, I was thinking in the same direction, a website I just found has offered a possible solution, trying that now
[12:24] <jarco> Slart, i am installing apt-get install ia32-libs perhaps that will solve it
[12:24] <Slart> whowantstolivefo: you're running vmware on one system and you have ubuntu installed as a guest? I think you will need to allocate extra disk size from the host
[12:24] <Slart> jarco: yes, give it a go.. see if it solves things
[12:24] <santhosh> can any on e pls tell me does the .vmdk  image worked on ubuntu kvm
[12:25] <jarco> thats an awefull lot of libraries. Does loading all those 32 bit libs slow down my system?
[12:25] <Slart> jarco: not unless you're very low on disk space, no
[12:25] <jarco> ok great :)
[12:25] <joshu> can anyone explain how to pass a user's username and password from when they login to Ubuntu to be used by a an executable which requires /u:username and /p:password to work ?
[12:25] <Guest90831> Hi, I have an issue on a clean ubuntu 12.04, where I when connected through ssh get a "Write failed: Broken pipe" after which I cannot connect for 5-10 minutes, due to a "connection refused"
[12:26] <joshu> I'm looking at PAM, but not sure
[12:26] <jarco> ok great :), yay problem is solved :)
[12:26] <Guest90831> Any idea where to start?
[12:26] <whowantstolivefo> Slart: i did from wmware. it was 20 GB i gave 5 GB extra and it is there and mounted as 5 GB extra. how i will add this 5 GB to my root path for expand ?
[12:26] <santhosh> can any one pls tell me does the .vmdk  image worked on ubuntu kvm
 again install  sshd server and restart in kernal level
[12:30] <RandomSort> restart in kernel level?
[12:31] <santhosh> use chkconfig and service sshd restart commands
[12:32] <RandomSort> cool, thanks!
[12:32] <santhosh> can any one pls tell me does the .vmdk  image worked on ubuntu kvm
[12:32] <santhosh> ok
[12:33] <benzrf> hey, if I put the installer on a flash drive but I just choose 'try ubuntu', will any files I add or change persist on the drive next time I boot?
[12:33] <benzrf> or is it all simulated in memory, or something?
[12:34] <nannes> benzrf: Nope
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> benzrf  it doesnt touch what's on your harddisk
[12:34] <batmite> no persistence on a live usb. unless u made partition for it
[12:34] <utfans05> benzrf, its all on the usb it doesnt touch the hdd
[12:34] <nannes> Everything will be simulated in memory
[12:34] <benzrf> alright
 don't worry  don't change in config files
[12:34] <nannes> benzrf: unless you create a persistent usb stick
[12:34] <benzrf> how do I do that?
[12:34] <nannes> *live
[12:35] <nannes> Google for it...
[12:35] <benzrf> oh, right
[12:35] <nannes> there's an official guide on the wiki if I'm not wrong
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> !google | nannes
[12:35] <benzrf> I have a tendency to ask obviously googlable questions in irc if I'm already there
[12:35] <batmite> google for it. you can do it with the "dd" command in the terminal :)
[12:35] <benzrf> <_<
[12:35] <benzrf> no, I have google fu
[12:35] <benzrf> :D
[12:35] <nannes> lol
[12:35] <benzrf> I'm at a reasonably competent level with stuff like the CLI and how the system works
[12:36] <nannes> benzrf: I wasn't wrong. Here it is (after googling lol)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[12:36] <benzrf> I just don't know how bootable usbs do it
[12:36] <benzrf> oh, thanks, I was just about to google it myself :P
[12:36] <benzrf|afk> brb
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:37] <nannes> MonkeyDust: I do not agree. I believe that users have to learn how to solve their problems themselves. AND GOOGLING IS A KEY-POINT ON THAT
[12:37] <nannes> OPS SORRY FOR THE CAPS
[12:38] <nannes> lol
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> nannes  they don't need our advice to "google it", if they are eager to learn, they do so themselves
[12:40] <batmite> part of becoming a linux user is developing the confidence to learn and do things for yourself. if you cant bother to google and experiment than, your gonna have a bad time :)
[12:40] <batmite> or a boring time...
[12:40] <Abd_Allatif> batmite, +1
[12:40] <cfhowlett> nannes, talking to the "experts" is more comforting for noobs than googling.  just sayin ...
[12:41] <batmite> i can see what you mean i guess..
[12:41] <santhosh> when a person ask to someone means he did not find any sloution in google
[12:42] <nannes> MonkeyDust: I think they do instead. Exactly because they're learning. they must also learn when it's the right moment to use google
[12:42] <benzrf> wait.
[12:42] <batmite> santhosh: thats what its SUPPOSED to mean hehe
[12:42] <benzrf> It says you just have to give it space in the usb-creator options
 yes na
[12:43] <benzrf> also, I DO google most of my problems
[12:43] <benzrf> I just ask the ones that are hard to phrase in google or likely won't have results
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> benzrf  let's move on now, shall we
[12:43] <batmite> benzrf: no worries
[12:43] <benzrf> mkay
[12:44] <benzrf> thanks
[12:44] <benzrf> bye
[12:44] <nannes> of course benzrf I'm not blaming you for that. You didn't know that a persistent usb live was possible
[12:44] <zhaotongxue> I want to say how to make my own keyboard on xubuntu,like key down super the same as click application menu?
[12:44] <zhaotongxue> how i can do it?
[12:44] <zhaotongxue> please
[12:45] <zhaotongxue> ?
[12:45] <utfans05> !patience | zhaotongxue
hello?is anyone here?</p>
[12:45] <nannes> zhaotongxue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/90513/how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu
 I want to say how to make my own keyboard on xubuntu,like key down super the same as click application menu? tell me clear
[12:45] <zhaotongxue> ok
[12:45] <zacks> hey
[12:46] <nannes> I think he needs to set his own keyboard shortcuts
[12:46] <zhaotongxue> wait ,i am using google translate
[12:46] <santhosh> ok
[12:48] <santhosh> can any one pls tell me does the .vmdk  image worked on ubuntu kvm
[12:48] <zhaotongxue> How in xubuntu on custom shortcuts?
[12:48] <zhaotongxue> Just click on super pretty and click the application menu.
[12:48] <zhaotongxue> ?
[12:48] <zhaotongxue> i translate it
[12:48] <zhaotongxue> thanks
[12:49] <nannes> zhaotongxue: The translation is not very clear.. Anyway, you can check the link I posted above
[12:49] <santhosh> if u want any thing u just search in ubuntu left side first icon search
[12:49] <nannes> I think it is what you're looking for
[12:50] <zhaotongxue> make my custom shortcuts
[12:50] <zhaotongxue> yes
[12:50] <zhaotongxue> is it clear/
[12:50] <zhaotongxue> ?
[12:50] <FloodBot1> zhaotongxue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:51] <zhaotongxue> ?
[12:51] <nannes> zhaotongxue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/90513/how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu
[12:51] <zhaotongxue> why you say so?
[12:55] <zhaotongxue> sorry,this answer is not fit me
[12:56] <stroodlepup> so, are there ftp download servers for synaptic?
[12:56] <utfans05> stroodlepup, what do you need the ftp servers for? you can just apt-get install anything you want from the command line.
[12:57] <stroodlepup> because http is slow :)
[12:57] <zhaotongxue> sorry,I have not sen all
[12:58] <me-1> hi...if ubuntu forums can be hacked does it mean ubuntu itself is insecure...?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> stroodlepup  no, it's syn-apt-ic, it uses apt
[12:58] <nannes> !ftpserver| stroodlepup
[12:58] <batmite> me-1: no
[12:59] <me-1> batmite,  i am really concerned about my data
[12:59] <nannes> !ftpd| stroodlepup
[13:00] <batmite> me-1: ubuntu releases security patches often. if you were a memeber of the forum and registered with a email/password you use elsewhere you should change them
[13:00] <vadrao> Hi, I have both ubuntu-desktop and Kubuntu-desktop installed. I primarily use KDE. Now the problem is my notifications from ktorrent etc, are using Ubuntu system. I would like to use the defaul KDE notifications. Can anybody help in this
[13:00] <nannes> batmite: I think you're missing me-1's question
[13:01] <Elfor> How to make 24 pictures (jpg/png) per second with the motion (program for cams)?
[13:01] <santhosh>   before login it can shown desktop type select gnome
[13:01] <stroodlepup> ok
[13:01] <batmite> nannes: quite possible :]
[13:01] <nannes> me-1: No, it doesn't mean that. Ubuntu forum is just a CMS put on a webserver somewhere, running a certain operating system
[13:01] <stroodlepup> I meant server urls
[13:01] <nannes> If ubuntu forums has been hacked, it just mean the CMS on which they were based on are buggy
[13:02] <stroodlepup> ones that use ftp or sftp
[13:02] <nannes> but it has nothing to do with the ubuntu OS itself, or gnu-linux in general
[13:02] <cfhowlett> Elfor, you mean a .gif image?
[13:02] <me-1> nannes,  you mean it was not running ubuntu..?
[13:03] <Elfor> cfhowlett, i maen many pictures, one frame = one picture
[13:03] <Elfor> 24 pictures in sec
[13:03] <nannes> me-1: It doesn't necessairly run ubuntu.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Elfor, show an example.
[13:03] <Elfor> help pls i nub
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !paste|elfor
[13:04] <Elfor> cfhowlett, zoneminder for example, can make many pictores in sec or can make video file
[13:05] <me-1> nannes,  I had UF account and have half dozen accounts with similar username password and e-mail address what should I do..?
[13:05] <Elfor> cfhowlett, video - bad qolitu, pictures is very good
[13:05] <Elfor> quolity
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Elfor, "quality"   ?
[13:05] <nannes> me-1: Oh, that's another issue. Ok then a good step you can do is changing all of them.
[13:05] <Elfor> quality
[13:05] <nannes> And it would be better to do it now
[13:06] <Elfor> шь кгы
[13:06] <Elfor> im rus
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !ru|Elfor,
[13:06] <Elfor> no
[13:06] <nannes> anyway, password stored on the database are hashed, so you have some time
[13:06] <Elfor> there are need register
[13:06] <Elfor> try it
[13:06] <me-1> nannes,  thank you for the info . I appriciate your help
[13:06] <santhosh> clear every thing
[13:06] <puppala_> hi
[13:06] <nannes> me-1: You're welcome :)
[13:07] <santhosh> hi
[13:07] <me-1> k
[13:07] <Elfor> help pls any
[13:07] <batmite> me-1: good time to work on your password policies :]
[13:07] <Elfor> who work with cams?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Elfor  better just ask your actual question
[13:08] <Elfor> How to make 24 pictures (jpg/png) per second with the motion (program for cams)?
[13:08] <puppala_> hi
[13:08] <nannes> Elfor: You should state your question with a better english, or either join the #ubuntu-ru  to talk russian with your co-citizens
[13:09] <nannes> Elfor: We've already told you we don't understand what you exactly mean with that sentence
[13:09] <Elfor> How create 24 pictures (jpg/png) per second with the motion (program for cams)?
[13:09] <nannes> Elfor: This means nothing
[13:09] <puppala_> ohh..
[13:09] <Elfor> need make pictures from the cam
[13:09] <th0r> funny...I understand what he wants perfectly
[13:09] <puppala_> no
[13:09] <nannes> puppala_: ciao ragazzo
[13:09] <cfhowlett> Elfor, use zoneminder
[13:09] <Elfor> one picture per sec
[13:09] <SonikkuAmerica> th0r: Ditto
[13:09] <Elfor> zonem not for nubs
[13:09] <Elfor> i cant
[13:10] <puppala_> i want to chat with girls
[13:10] <th0r> unfortunately I have never used motion.
[13:10] <Elfor> hard
[13:10] <cfhowlett> puppala_, wrong channel
[13:10] <nannes> th0r: well, if you understand you can write it in a better english
[13:10] <th0r> nannes he wants assistance getting the program 'motion
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Elfor, so this, right?    http://www.gnulnx.net/wp-content/gallery/zoneminder_new_skin/events_calendar.png
[13:10] <th0r> to create 24fps video
[13:11] <nannes> cfhowlett, puppala_: I would say wrong SERVER, either  :D
[13:11] <Elfor> i not need video
[13:11] <Elfor> i need pictures
[13:11] <nannes> lol
[13:11] <Elfor> cose video low quality
[13:11] <nannes> th0r: as you see.... you didn't understand, either
[13:11] <Elfor> video have bad pictures
[13:11] <th0r> Elfor, 24 pictures per second is 24fps video
[13:11] <Elfor> jpg/png and other is good pictures
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Elfor, cheese or guvcview
[13:12] <Elfor> analog cam
[13:12] <Elfor> zonem for pro
[13:12] <Elfor> real hard config and other
[13:13] <cfhowlett> Elfor, so you want to convert analog video to stills?
[13:13] <Elfor> cfhowlett, u udecuate?
[13:14] <liono_man> hi
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Elfor, do you want to convert analog video to still images?
[13:14] <Elfor> cfhowlett, i can make just many photos per sec
[13:14] <cfhowlett> liono_man, greetings
[13:14] <Elfor> what not undestand?
[13:14] <Elfor> no
[13:14] <Elfor> cfhowlett, i want get photos from the cam
[13:14] <Elfor> undestand?
[13:14] <Elfor> 24/sec
[13:14] <liono_man> cfhowlett, hello
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> Elfor  don't hit the enter key too often
[13:15] <Elfor> video have bad quality
[13:15] <Elfor> video convert to photos = very bad quality
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Elfor, stills are unlikely to be much better.
[13:16] <liono_man> brb
[13:16] <Elfor> cfhowlett, NO! photos the very good quality
[13:16] <Elfor> try it
[13:17] <nannes> aaaaaaaaaaaah
[13:17] <Elfor> or gooling for examples
[13:17] <nannes> Maybe I get what he means
[13:17] <nannes> hahahahah
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Elfor, i cannot find any reference to zonem so ... don't think I can help here.
[13:17] <cfhowlett> sorry
[13:18] <nannes> Elfor:  well, you mean that extrapolating instant photograms from a video, the quality obtained is worse than the quality of a single shot (photo)
[13:18] <Elfor> what other channel i can try?
[13:18] <nannes> yes that's undoubtable
[13:18] <nannes> you can buy an High Definition Video Camera
[13:18] <zhaotongxue> where is the "Applications Menu"?
[13:18] <Elfor> inadequate
[13:18] <cfhowlett> nannes, not helpful ...
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !ru|Elfor
[13:19] <zhaotongxue> I menu this menu's location
[13:19] <Elfor> im on motion channel but there not talking
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> Elfor  try #ubuntu-studio
[13:19] <Elfor> i ask but not any talk
[13:19] <nannes> so he wants to do many photos and put them all in a sequence of 24 fps to create a video... right Elfor?
[13:19] <mefrio> hi guys. What is the IRC channel to ask developer questions about Ubuntu?
[13:20] <Elfor> nannes, buy cam and try
[13:20] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-devel
[13:20] <computer> Hi all! I'm Paolo! Is there someone here who knows if the CPU INTEL I3-2370M runs well on linux? I had overgeating problems with a intel i7 sandybridge and this time I want to be sure everything will be ok...
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> mefrio  #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:20] <computer> *overheating
[13:20] <nannes> of course Paolo
[13:20] <mefrio> MonkeyDust, thank you
[13:21] <nannes> Just install the latest version available, cause you need the last tested kernel
[13:21] <liono_man> computer, my linux runs now in P4. I guess it will do on i3 with no prob.
[13:21] <nannes> computer: And I'm sceptic about your problems with the i7
[13:21] <computer> ok, I had in mind to try elementary os luna, but maybe the kernel is too old..
[13:22] <nannes> they probably were another kind of problems, not about hardware interfacement (kernel)
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> computer  /msg alis list *luna*
[13:22] <ph3onix> can anyone help me please?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !ask|ph3onix,
[13:23] <ph3onix> oh sorry
[13:23] <ph3onix> is it possible to install blackbuntu with wubi?
[13:24] <nannes> computer: Comunque, quando vuoi, esiste anche il canale italiano di supporto!  #ubuntu-it - fai un giro ;)
[13:24] <cfhowlett> ph3onix, not directly.  install wubi (if you must).  install ubuntu.  then get the bb repos and install that
[13:24] <computer> So it is strange that on an intel i7 sandybridge cpu I have overheating problems with ubuntu 13
[13:24] <computer> *ubuntu 13.04
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> ph3onix  blackbuntu is not supported here and wubi is not a real installation
[13:25] <nannes> computer: That's probably due to hybrid graphics.. you should disable the i7 gpu, possibly, if you have an external one
[13:25] <liono_man> computer, check this might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/286792/overheating-problem-on-ubuntu-13-04
[13:26] <ph3onix> ok thanks guys
[13:28] <computer> yes, I turned off the discrete graphic card, and overheating got better but was still present
[13:28] <fabiobik> hi guys, my internet is incredible slow. i need to refresh two or tree times the page to be completly loaded. Also it happens at chrome, opera
[13:28] <fabiobik> any solution guys? i mean, it was okay after
[13:30] <Graf_Westerholt> I want to install Kubuntu on an encrypted partition on a drive with Windows. I cannot use guided partition because it kills Windows. But I cannot set up an encrypted partition with the manual way. I got an error that the encrypted partition cannot be created. It does not ask for a key. Any help? Same with Kubuntu 13.04 and 13.10 alpha 2. It would be great to have a guided encrypted partition that use only the free space,
[13:30] <Graf_Westerholt> not the whole disc.
[13:30] <Benxyzzy> How do I make grub automatically enter the password for full-disk LUKS encryption, so I don't get the prompt at boot?
[13:30] <ian_> hello
[13:30] <liono_man> ian_: hello
[13:30] <jrib> Benxyzzy: why even use encryption then?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> ian_, greetings
[13:31] <Sc0tty-> Hello
[13:31] <Benxyzzy> jrib: Firstly, it's much easier to do this than reinstall the whole thing without encryption. Secondly, there is still a benefit to an encrypted hdd because the data can be destroyed much quicker. I only need to shred the encrypted header to render the whole lot unreadable.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Sc0tty-, greetings
[13:32] <liono_man> Sc0tty-: Hi
[13:32] <jrib> Benxyzzy: good point, that second one.
[13:33] <ian_> I'm newly converted in linux. I was a windows user before.
[13:34] <tom_o> hello evrybody
[13:34] <cfhowlett> tom_o, greetings
[13:34] <nannes> computer: Be precise, give us temperatures
[13:34] <nannes> while doing different kind of stuff
[13:34] <nannes> *kinds
[13:35] <tom_o> how to remove linux form hardisk? i wanna back to windows
[13:35] <cfhowlett> tom_o, format with windows.  no more ubuntu.
[13:36] <nannes> tom_o: Why?
[13:36] <liono_man> tom_o: just install windows and make it format the partition
[13:37] <tom_o> i cant boot to windows, i usb installer and windows7 on it, after boot form usb, it says, cant find myself on drive i booted form
[13:37] <preeka> .join
[13:38] <cfhowlett> tom_o, ask how in #windows
[13:38] <jrib> Benxyzzy: http://wejn.org/how-to-make-passwordless-cryptsetup.html there's some discussion here that should at least point you in the right direction.  I imagine you can find a few guides on just using a file on a usb key and modify that to your liking.  I don't have any personal experience with this
[13:38] <fabiobik> any solution guys? i mean, it was okay afteranyone to help me please?
[13:39] <Benxyzzy> Graf_Westerhold: Sounds like you need to create the encrypted partitions yourself with a partition editor, and install into them. Before the installer support, it used to be the only way to do encrypted installs. See the old instructions like these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Encrypted-Root-Filesystem-HOWTO/#setup-boot-device
[13:39] <Benxyzzy> jrib: Thanks, I'll take a look :)
[13:39] <computer> nannes: I haven't measured but it is really hot
[13:39] <MO_Handes> I get broken dependencies error when I want to install wine-bin:i386 how to solve it?
[13:39] <computer> i read it is a really common problem
[13:40] <Benxyzzy> Graf_Westerholt: See above answer, I got your name wrong
[13:41] <Graf_Westerholt> Benxyzzy, thx. But is it a bug in the Installer that I cannot manually set an encrypted LVM?
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> MO_Handes  wine-bin is not in the repos, where did you get it? what's the output of    cat /etc/issue ?
[13:42] <liono_man> suggestion for best linux distro for web server
[13:42] <auronandace> liono_man: ask in ##linux
[13:43] <liono_man> I can not post in ##linux
[13:43] <nannes> computer: Did you let it cool after disabling the hybrid gpu?
[13:43] <auronandace> liono_man: you need a registered and identified nick
[13:43] <nannes> and are you 100% sure to having completely disabled it?
[13:43] <nannes> and also, can you post some info about the ram/cpu usage of the current processes?
[13:44] <liono_man> auronandace: how to register
[13:44] <auronandace> !register | liono_man
[13:45] <liono_man> ubottu: Thanks for your help
[13:45] <flick> hi - i just installed the server version of ubuntu 12. i figure that i may not need it. does anyone know which are the server specific packages? please
[13:45] <flick> i will try to uninstall them
[13:46] <joshu> anyone know how to change lightdm PAM to pass the username and password to an exectuable
[13:46] <nannes> liono_man: just any distro. pick the one that has the PackageManager you're more confortable with
[13:46] <flick> especially the heavy packages that take up hard disk space, in the server version
[13:47] <Benxyzzy> Graf_Westerholt: No idea. I'm going from memory, but did you free the space to hold the new partition first? If your Windows partition is currently taking up the whole drive, I can imagine the installer thinking it hasn't got anywhere to put new stuff. If I remember correctly, the manual process should be showing you the unallocated space you've got. You then add a (in your case) logical partition, either normal, encrypted
[13:47] <mn2010> joshu: you can, since the DisplayManager just authenticates with Pam Service
[13:47] <Benxyzzy> or LUKS encrypted. You then choose the filesystem. Did it go through all that, confirm what it's about to do and then fail at the last step?
[13:47] <flick> i need to uninstall them
[13:47] <liono_man> nannes: Thanks, I meant to say which one is the most stable for Webserver task
[13:47] <joshu> mn2010 hi I've been googling but I don't know how to do this never messed with PAM before.
[13:47] <computer> nannes: yes it's a long time that i'm experiencing this problem
[13:47] <nannes> liono_man: because the software you can use... it's basically the same in all distros. All with GNU license
[13:48] <computer> nannes: and i'm seriously thinking to buy a new pc
[13:48] <nannes> computer: nooooo absolutely not
[13:48] <nannes> stop, fermo e ragiona
[13:48] <joshu> mn2010 I know there are config files in /etc/pam.d, but not sure what to change
[13:48] <auronandace> flick: by default the server version doesn't come with much, ask nin #ubuntu-server too
[13:48] <Graf_Westerholt> Benxyzzy, the disc is free. No partitions. In the installer I chose the manual way and create an encrypted partition but it fails with an error message that the encrypted partition could not be created.
[13:48] <flick> hey thanks much auronandace
[13:48] <nannes> computer: Is ubuntu the only OS you have installed on that notebook?
[13:48] <nannes> in that PC, I mean
[13:48] <computer> nannes: no, I also have windows 7
[13:49] <mn2010> joshu: well im no expert, but PAM uses a Configuration file and service. in the file contains a list of Supporting applications(.so) that are allowed to use the service. For instance samba_auth.so(Samba's authentication service).
[13:49] <flick> i think i should also uninstall the transmission client... someone said downloading movies "torrents" is illegal
[13:49] <mn2010> What are you trying to do with it joshu:
[13:49] <flick> is there any way to view all packages installed by the installation size? synaptic doesn't seem to have any installation size column which i could sort by
[13:50] <computer> nannes: c'è un modo di spostarci in una chat privata, non sono molto pratico di IRC
[13:50] <joshu> mn2010 all I want is for a user to enter username/ password at the lightdm greeter and when they hit enter the username/password is passed to xfreerdp
[13:50] <nannes> well, then you're just exaggerating. If I were you, I would start with switching to another DE, firstly
[13:50] <mn2010> flick: -_- Depends on there license, Downloading Copyrighted Material without a license is always illegal. But torrents them selves are not, torrent is just a distributed file tranfer client
[13:50] <auronandace> flick: i thought you were running server (synaptic and transmission are gui apps)
[13:50] <mn2010> joshu: use the user .xinit
[13:50] <joshu> mn2010 I know that ubuntu has a remote login feature, but it seems to require UCCS account, which I don't want.
[13:50] <nannes> If you have the classic ubuntu (unity) you're very likely to use too much system resources
[13:50] <flick> auronandace, i did install server. but i do have a gui. i installed it just now.
[13:51] <flick> is there any way i can validate that i am indeed running server version?
[13:51] <mn2010> joshu: thats part of LightDM, for remote DM communication.
[13:52] <nannes> flick: Why did you install the server version if you don't need any server package?
[13:52] <flick> mn2010, thanks... i don't understand the torrents thing well
[13:52] <mn2010> joshu: Dont get me wrong, thats all dragons to me, i never really messed with Pam or Lightdm(Specifically) im KDM/GDM user
[13:52] <nannes> I would think about that, if I were you
[13:52] <joshu> mn2010 yep but without UCCS it doesn't work as far as I can tell. There are two different remote logins, lightdm-remote-freerdp and lightdm-remote-uccconfigure. No information online on how the former works
[13:52] <computer> nannes: i switched to gnome shell
[13:52] <joshu> mn2010 I understand
[13:52] <flick> nannes, i thought it will be lighter - and i could ask someone to get only packages i want
[13:52] <nannes> flick: also, bittorrent clients like transmission are totally legal
[13:52] <liono_man> thank you all
[13:52] <computer> but it is a really powerful computer I don't think thats the problem
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> flick  a torrent is a small file that contains the information to download something
[13:52] <mn2010> flick: http://is.gd/AHXAp4
[13:52] <nannes> it is the act of downloading stuff protected by copyright that's not legal
[13:52] <joshu> mn2010 I don't think it's impossible to do, just not sure how to as I can't find any useful info online
[13:53] <flick> i think i will leave transmission then. it must be a small pakage
[13:53] <nannes> so just don't do it, and you'll live peacefully with yourself and with others :D
[13:53] <Benxyzzy> Graf_Westerholt: I thought you had Windows installed? No idea then sorry, but it does sound like funny business with the drive. Failing hardware or connectivity. In this situation (done it before with crappy USB sticks), you can try reformatting the whole thing and deleting all partitions in it, so you get back to 100% unallocated space. Can't really be trusted even if it works though. Unless... is this an installer running
[13:53] <Benxyzzy>  within Windows, or booted from CD? If the former, it could be a privileges issue. That's all my ideas
[13:53] <nannes> flick: If you want a light system there is of course the way to get it, without installing the server version
[13:54] <flick> nannes, yeah - that's what i want. i installed xubuntu 12.04 server edition 32 bit
[13:54] <Graf_Westerholt> Benxyzzy, I tried an two PC and now a VM. VM fresh, no Windows installed.
[13:54] <flick> i want to remove bulky packages
[13:54] <auronandace> flick: xubuntu comes with xfce, there is no xubuntu server
[13:54] <flick> i installed it to learn programming... python etc.
[13:54] <mn2010> joshu: depending on purpose you can just have .xinit send the pam login info via a hook.
[13:54] <nannes> flick: bad.. you'll have to reinstall a minimal client ubuntu
[13:55] <nannes> over it... because what you did is pretty useless
[13:55] <nannes> I'm gonna link you a guide, just wait 1 sec... :P
[13:55] <mn2010> flick: Transmission is tiny, less than 10mb, its one of the smallest Torrent clients in existance
[13:55] <flick> OH you are right. this is xubuntu desktop
[13:55] <joshu> mn2010 do you have any example you can link to?
[13:55] <nannes> flick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:55] <Benxyzzy> Graf_Westerholt: That's bizarre. Short of running the CD test in the boot menu (checks your CD image isn't corrupt somehow) I can't think of any other reason
[13:56] <flick> sorry. i am new to this. it is not server. it is desktop xubuntu 12.04.2
[13:56] <nannes> ok, then just get rid of what you don't need
[13:56] <mn2010> Get rid of ubuntu and switch to Xubuntu-Desktop if Size is serious issue ( apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get install xubuntu-desktop )
[13:56] <Graf_Westerholt> Benxyzzy, I have tried with 13.04 and 13.10, same problem. ;)
[13:56] <gordonjcp> flick: how much space have you got to install in?
[13:56] <flick> gordonjcp, 6GB total space in the hard disk
[13:56] <gordonjcp> flick: that's plenty
[13:57] <flick> fastest way to bring up the command prompt?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> flick  ctrl-alt t
[13:57] <flick> in windows, i could press Win, and then type "cmd" enter
[13:57] <mn2010> flick: minimum is only 2gb, and ive gotten away with less than 400mb on Xubuntu with Limited apps
[13:57] <flick> cool. thanks
[13:58] <gordonjcp> flick: in Linux the "win" key does different stuff
[13:58] <flick> ctrl+alt+t isn't working
[13:58] <nannes> flick: it must work
[13:58] <flick> i have it in virtualbox
[13:58] <flick> is that why it is not working. i dont understand virtualbox well also
[13:58] <gordonjcp> works here
[13:58] <gordonjcp> is virtualbox maybe capturing keystrokes?
[13:59] <gordonjcp> oh, I wonder if XFCE is different?
[13:59] <mn2010> You will never get decent performance out of Virtualbox flick
[13:59] <flick> yes i have xfce
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> flick  is that xubuntu in virtual box?
[13:59] <gordonjcp> hm, don't know, I don't like XFCE
[13:59] <flick> yes - xubuntu in virtual box
[14:00] <flick> if 6GB is enough, should i ask my friend to reduce this to 4GB. I can free up 2GB that way
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> flick  what is your actual goal, what brings you here
[14:01] <flick> oh wow - Win+T works to open Terminal in xfce
[14:01] <flick> MonkeyDust, i wanted to have a unix system to learn programming. vim, terminal, python etc.
[14:03] <flick> and hadoop. they have setup hadoop where i work.
[14:04] <flick> Wow. 3.0G of 5.0G is in use already
[14:04] <flick> I did "df -h"
[14:05] <babinlonston> flick ??
[14:05] <flick> this is too much isn't it? do i have bulky unneeded packages. also it is showing 5G total in /dev/sda1...
[14:06] <auronandace> flick: that looks right for a xubutu install
[14:06] <flick> babinlonston, i had fresh xubuntu instlled in virtualbox 6.0G hard disk
[14:06] <flick> someone said he ran ubuntu with 2GB a while ago
[14:06] <flick> am confused
[14:07] <babinlonston> flick: u selected default packages or u chooses by your own ?
[14:08] <flick> babinlonston, default packages
[14:08] <flick> aside, how do i switch off the leaving/joining messages for this channel in xchat? it's cluttering up
[14:08] <babinlonston> flick: 3 GB is not too much its seems alright ...
[14:08] <flick> okay thanks
[14:09] <babinlonston> flick: Showing as popup ?
[14:09] <napsc> flick: right click tab on bottm
[14:09] <flick> is there any other distribution that is lighter, and has python etc. i wonder where 3G is going
[14:09] <flick> babinlonston, no i mean this -
[14:09] <flick> * Igramul (~black@der-ganz-normale-alltaegliche-wahnsinn.de) has left #ubuntu ("WeeChat 0.4.1")
[14:09] <napsc> flick: under settings there
[14:09] <xgeek-cub> in terms of video and audio quality which one is better Mplayer2 OR VLC?
[14:10] <napsc> flick:  hide join message
[14:10] <auronandace> flick: lubuntu would be lighter but not by much
[14:10] <babinlonston> have a look at preference in xchat
[14:10] <flick> napsc - tab on bottom? i have nothing below the text entry area where i am typing this
[14:10] <auronandace> flick: if you really only want what you want then best to start with the mini install
[14:10] <napsc> flick: or tab on side
[14:10] <auronandace> !mini | flick
[14:11] <flick> napsc, found it. hide part/join. thanks much
[14:11] <napsc> np
[14:12] <xgeek-cub> in terms of video and audio quality which one is better Mplayer2 OR VLC?
[14:12] <flick> auronandace, thanks - i should have asked my friend to use that instead
[14:12] <auronandace> xgeek-cub: depends on the codec in use
[14:12] <flick> is there any way to list all installed packages by size? to see where the space is going
[14:12] <babinlonston> flick: untick logging in xchat , that what u asked i think :)
[14:13] <xgeek-cub> auronandace, what you mean;is it possible to have any of them with different codecz
[14:13] <flick> got it
[14:13] <flick> installation size is displayed in synaptic package manager
[14:14] <flick> linux headers is taking up a lot of space. i am gonna remove that
[14:14] <flick> smbclient, thunderbird
[14:14] <Graf_Westerholt> Benxyzzy that error occurs when trying create a crypto partition: http://roy.5x8.de/encrypt-test0.png http://roy.5x8.de/encrypt-test1.png
[14:15] <Ampelbein> flick: or in the terminal: dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -n
[14:15] <auronandace> flick: honestly, you are better starting with mini and adding what you want (stripping stuff from an existing install can be tedious and time consuming)
[14:17] <flick> ok
[14:17] <babinlonston> Ampelbein: how to get it in human redable format  dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -n
[14:17] <flick> interesting - that works - i guess the sort -n sorts it
[14:17] <flick> i like how one can chain commands like this in unix
[14:17] <Benxyzzy> Graf_Westerholt: Looks like it is some bug with the install CD. They are suggesting using another Ubuntu version's CD and converting the install to Kubuntu afterward: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-62536.html
[14:18] <auronandace> flick: thats a pipe (not a chain)
[14:18] <flick> what is a chain?
[14:19] <auronandace> flick: i don't know
[14:19] <napsc> um chains are used in iptables
[14:19] <daftykins> chains can be done with &&
[14:20] <ProjectBarks> Help a java application is forzen on my ubuntu server and I dont know howto tell it to terminate
[14:21] <Graf_Westerholt> Benxyzzy, but the bug is still in 13.10.
[14:21] <babinlonston> ProjectBarks:  Use top command to get the process and look at java and kill it using K
[14:21] <Benxyzzy> Graf_Westerholt: No doubt
[14:21] <babinlonston> ProjectBarks: Use PID to Kill the Process
[14:21] <ProjectBarks> Ok
[14:23] <Graf_Westerholt> Benxyzzy, do you know if there is a bug-report?
[14:23] <Ampelbein> babinlonston: I guess you could pipe it through awk to achieve that.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> Graf_Westerholt  mind: 13.10 is unstable, support in #ububtu+1
[14:23] <mn2010> flick: DONT DELETE THE HEADERS... there used any time something is compiled against the Kernel. Which means any driver that the system uses.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> Graf_Westerholt  mind: 13.10 is unstable, support in #ubuntu+1
[14:24] <babinlonston> ProjectBarks: top -b -n 1 | tee > top_output     get the Top output and look if u can less in a page
[14:24] <Graf_Westerholt> MonkeyDust, the problem is in 13.04, too.
[14:24] <ProjectBarks> OK
[14:24] <flick> oh thanks - i have deleted some stuff. let me see if it reboots
[14:24] <flick> freed 274MB, not much
[14:24] <babinlonston> Ampelbein: ok
[14:27] <z3roblock> hello all
[14:31] <richat> holla all
[14:31] <preeka> hi
[14:32] <z3roblock> hello all
[14:32] <richat> how to connect to available wifi in range? im use oneiric ocelot
[14:32] <z3roblock> you can detect your wifi card?
[14:32] <richat> no
[14:33] <richat> how to detect my wifi card?
[14:33] <richat> im use old laptop
[14:33] <preeka> I think lspci might work
[14:33] <richat> lspci?
[14:34] <richat> please can u explain more details preeka
[14:34] <z3roblock> terminal lspci
[14:34] <richat> i need to connect to this wifi
[14:34] <richat> ok
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> richat  open a terminal and type    lspci
[14:34] <richat> ok
[14:35] <z3roblock> richat can you scan the network?
[14:35] <preeka> richat: lspci is a utility for displaying information about all PCI buses in the system and all devices connected to them
[14:35] <flick> 1.6GB is in /usr
[14:35] <richat> its ok im paste result to channel ?
[14:35] <z3roblock> kist Etherent Controller:
[14:36] <preeka> paste a link on pastebin.com
[14:36] <preeka> *at
[14:36] <preeka> or at similar pasting service
[14:36]  * preeka needs to get better at grammar
[14:37] <flick> out of 6GB, 1GB is used for "linux-swap"!
[14:37] <flick> is that normal? should i reduce it?
[14:37] <sunredo> @aaas hi
[14:38] <richat> http://pastebin.com/xtRxj8K3
[14:38] <richat> how
[14:39] <richat> can i connect to this wifi network?
 richat can you scan the network? <= yes i can with my android mobile phone
[14:40] <richat> but dunno with laptop how to scan this available network
[14:40] <z3roblock> richat: i mean can you scan the hotspot thrw the laptop?
[14:40] <preeka> flick: yes, the swap space is importand
[14:41] <near88> anyone here knows rootsh ?
[14:41] <preeka> richat: sorry I didn't get your question the first time
[14:41] <richat> i dont know how to scan
[14:41] <flick> i want to read the information here, but seems ubuntu forums is down.
[14:41] <flick> http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=1221397
[14:41] <preeka> what exactly do you want to do ?
[14:41] <mn2010> richat: open a terminal { ctrl - alt - t }, authenticate as root {sudo -s}, run { lspci | grep 'wireless' }, see if it sees a device
[14:42] <richat> umh...
[14:42] <richat> ok
[14:42] <flick> preeka, find out how much swap memory is needed for virtualbox installations
[14:43] <richat> nothing result
[14:43] <richat> root@c0de-ID:~# lspci | grep 'wireless'
[14:43] <richat> root@c0de-ID:~#
[14:44] <richat> please please
[14:44] <richat> someone
[14:44] <richat> help me
[14:44] <flick> sorry
[14:44] <flick> richat - you can't connect to wifi?
[14:44] <richat> no
[14:44] <richat> -___-'
[14:44] <mn2010> richat: ok is wireless enabled on youre hardware (Wireless button)
[14:44] <preeka> flick: depends on what you need to run in the vm... http://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-4-esx-vcenter/index.jsp?topic=/com.vmware.vsphere.resourcemanagement.doc_40/managing_memory_resources/c_swap_space_and_memory_overcommitment.html
[14:45] <flick> preeka, thanks!
[14:45] <richat> so... how to connect then mn2010
[14:45] <preeka> I think what the webpage says holds in general for any vm software
[14:46] <preeka> correct me if I'm wrong.
[14:46] <richat> what tools must im use to connect and scan this network with my old laptop
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | richat did you read this
[14:47] <richat> ok
[14:47] <preeka> richat: you mean like, scan for available wifi networks?
[14:47] <preeka> scan, like netmap?
[14:47] <richat> mmmm.... no
[14:48] <richat> im sure in my range have available wifi network
[14:48] <preeka> ok, and what exactly do you need to do?
[14:48] <Eoin_> hey i need help my hdd with all my porno's say's corrupted and unreadable anyone know?
[14:48] <richat> cos on my mobile android i can connect
[14:48] <richat> but i wanna connect with my laptop
[14:48] <preeka> ok
[14:48] <Eoin_> need a fix it's a life time worth
[14:48] <preeka> so, have you intalled the drivers for your wifi card?
[14:49] <richat> i dont know
[14:49] <preeka> Eoin_: lol, good luck, try googling for free disk recovery tools
[14:49] <preeka> ok
[14:49] <preeka> give me a minute please
[14:49] <richat> brb read WifiDocs
[14:49] <mare> Does anyone know of a live chat like this for linuxmint?
[14:50] <auronandace> !mint | mare
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> mare  http://community.linuxmint.com/ > Community > Chat room
[14:51] <preeka> richat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[14:51] <preeka> I think this should cover you.
[14:51] <mare> well, irc.spotchat.org does not exist
[14:51] <richat> yes
[14:51] <near88> hi
[14:51] <richat> im on there
[14:51] <near88> anyone knows a good security irc ?
[14:51] <mare> and the link from Monkey does not take me to a chat room
[14:51] <auronandace> !alis | near88
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> mare  click on the community tab, then on Chat room
[14:52] <preeka> near88: there are some guys on ##security right now.
[14:52] <preeka> you might want to ask them
[14:52] <mare> thanks!
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> auronandace  the !mint factoid should be updated, irc.spotchat.org is no longer available
[14:54] <mare> no one is there :(
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> mare  i'm there now, i see a lot of activity
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> mare  wait a bit longer than 2 seconds to get an answer
[14:56] <ZedGama3> I'm having some difficulty getting grub to work properly with a new windows 8 laptop, anyone here willing to help me out?
[14:56] <mare> k
[14:56] <auronandace> !uefi | ZedGama3
[14:57] <ZedGama3> I've been reading a bit about it and was able to get ubuntu installed, but after adding an entry for windows it now just boots directly to windows without an appearance from the grub boot menu.  Just very strange.
[14:57] <ZedGama3> I'll read the article you posted though.
[14:57] <lordshiva> hello
[14:59] <moondog> I've setup the ubuntu software center to sync between computers. but I only see the local machine in the machine list... not the other one.
[14:59] <moondog> does this feature function?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> moondog  software center is a frontend for apt, it's not meant to link two computers
[15:01] <moondog> it seems to have that feature
[15:01] <moondog> you are not aware?
[15:01] <auronandace> moondog: no idea what you are referring to
[15:01] <napsc> i just checked it does... didn't know it either
[15:02] <moondog> ubuntu software center the file option in the menu bar has an item titled "sync between computers"
[15:04] <auronandace> moondog: wow, i just use synaptic
[15:09] <Bauer> hey guys :) I habe copied my Ubuntu from old HDd to new SSD using clonezilla, however it also copied my old UUID. atm the Grub is booting old HDD, from which I am trying to mount the new SSD , and modify the UUI in fstab and grub.conf, but it mounts as read only.. even as root I cant edit
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> well, didnt know the sunc option, either, we learn every day...
[15:09] <Bauer> how to force write mode?
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> sync*
[15:09] <WinstonSmith> mount -o remount,rw /
[15:10] <moondog> seems like it might be a useful feature (perhaps a little better if it worked)
[15:10] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: ^
[15:10] <moondog> :)
[15:11] <WinstonSmith> i just use --get-selections and --set-selections
[15:11] <Bauer> WinstonSmith: I am not sure that is correct to my situation. I am booted from old HDD as /sda1 mounted to /. new SSD where I need to edit the files is /sdb1 - I wanna mountit to something like /mnt/1 and edit the files
[15:12] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: ah sorry misread. just mount it then, it should be rw by default
[15:13] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-change-the-uuid-of-a-linux-partition/ may be relevant to your problem
[15:13] <Bauer> WinstonSmith: well it isnt: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/iso/ and when I open it: "/mnt/iso/boot/grub/grub.cfg" [readonly]
[15:13] <WinstonSmith> as root/sudo?
[15:14] <Bauer> as root, yes WinstonSmith
[15:15] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: does "mount -o rw,remount /mnt/iso" work?
[15:16] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: or /dev/sdb1 insted of /mnt/iso
[15:16] <Bauer> WinstonSmith: nope still red only.. sec I try 2nd
[15:16] <Bauer> nope
[15:17] <ska> Does anyone use "keychain" with gpg keys?
[15:17] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: did you try mounting into another dir? not /mnt/iso? like mkdir /mnt/sdb1; mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 ?
[15:19] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: maybe the duplicate UUID is messing things up, did you try booting from a livecd ? also i had mixed success with clonezilla, prefer dd myself
[15:19] <Bauer> WinstonSmith: I just tried, same thing
[15:19] <Bauer> WinstonSmith: nothing else worked for me, only clonezilla managed to clone and allowed new SSD to boot it
[15:20] <Bauer> WinstonSmith: if no other ideas, I will boot from live usb key I have and try again...
[15:20] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: boot from a livecd/liveusb, use the link i posted to change the UUID of the old disk
[15:20] <WinstonSmith> swap boot order in BIOS too
[15:23] <joshu> I'm trying to use pam_exec to get the username and password during lightdm login anyone familiar with this?
[15:26] <Bauer> WinstonSmith: I already changed the UUID using gparted, and choosing priority in bios does not help since both drives had same UUID until now :)
[15:27] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: it influences from which drive GRUB boots
[15:29] <Bauer> ok, be back soon going to reboot from usb key
[15:40] <StarOnD> How can I install libgruel in raring ringtail?
[15:40] <ztane> 13.04 64 bit with almost all updates in, I have now had like 20 % of time the following problem: plug in an android phone by usb (2.3.6) and start usb tethering on the phone - both computer and phone crashes :? any idea?
[15:40] <JainAmber> Hello
[15:40] <daftykins> hi
[15:40] <ztane> get a kernel panic but I was too lazy to take a picture
[15:41] <JainAmber> Anyone with Ubuntu 32-bit installed on a machine that supports 64-bit? When I run 'uname -m', what will be output? x86? x86_64?
[15:42] <JainAmber> Does 'uname -m' tells about machine's 32-/64-bit support? Or, does it tells whether installed OS is 32-/64-bit?
[15:42] <daftykins> looks like it refers to the capability, mine reports i686 when i'm running 32-bit
[15:43] <ztane> JainAmber: it tells about the kernel
[15:43] <daftykins> JainAmber: why not just read the processor type and look up its' support?
[15:45] <JainAmber> daftykins, I'm writing some docs for Vagrant users. I want a command so that they can find out whether kernel is 32 or 64 bit. If it is a 32 bit kernel, I'll recommend them to setup a 32-bit Vagrant VM. Otherwise, they should use 64-bit VM.
[15:45] <JainAmber> So this isn't about my processor. Different users reading my docs will have different processors (32 and 64 bits).
[15:46] <daftykins> i see
[15:46] <JainAmber> Thanks ztane daftykins, I will recommend them to use 'uname -m' then.
[15:48] <lang_> hi, i screwed something upwith 'startx' and now i cant log in - can you help me please
[15:48] <lang_> when i log in it logs me out right away
[15:50] <napsc> JainAmber: why not just look at cpu: lscpu
[15:50] <OerHeks> napsc, that will tell you the CPU, not the installed arch
[15:50] <OerHeks> *architecture
[15:51] <JainAmber> napsc, what OerHeks said^
[15:52] <OerHeks> "arch" will do the same as uname -m
[15:52] <akaWolf> hello! I've got strange problem: can not telnet connect to some ports to my local computer from Ubuntu, but to some -- can. in Windows all ok... I'm confused
[15:52] <dem1> Im using vpn with ubuntu but the dns server in use is the localhost (that points to my isp) and not to my vpn dns server.is there any way to change that?
[15:52] <akaWolf> I do not want go to the Windows...
[15:52] <JainAmber> OerHeks, 'arch' is even better. Thanks!
[15:53] <JainAmber> :)
[15:53] <usr13> akaWolf: But you're only supposed to use one.  Why do you need more than one.
[15:53] <akaWolf> usr13 one computer?
[15:54] <usr13> akaWolf: And why arent you using ssh instead of telent?
[15:54] <grenadecx-Ascend> Anyone here have experience with multiple graphic cards and triple screen monitor? I'm running a GTX 560 TI and 8600GT Nvidia. With Nouveau, it kinda works out of the box, but it's really slow: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5182725/triplemonitor_nouveaudrivers.png anyone know how I would get the same setup using official nvidia drivers? I tried, but can only get two monitors working
[15:54] <akaWolf> usr13 telnet only for check, I'm using ssh and check ssh port
[15:54] <usr13> akaWolf: Please restate your issue, (I'm pretty sure I've missunderstood).
[15:54] <Casey> Hello, trying to gain permissions to my raid drives located in the /mnt/(raid drive folders)  not having any luck what so ever.
[15:55] <OerHeks> grenadecx-Ascend, i hear more issues with nvidia/only 2 monitor setup.
[15:55] <daftykins> Casey: can you explain what you're doing and what's going wrong?
[15:56] <usr13> akaWolf: Oh, you are not telnetting into your Ubuntu system, you are trying to telnet to another PC, (*from* the ubuntu pc)?
[15:56] <usr13> akaWolf: Is that correct?   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^]
[15:56] <akaWolf> usr13 I've got error "Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused" when I try to connect to something ports from my Ubuntu-PC. I connect to another Ubuntu-PC
[15:56] <daftykins> grenadecx-Ascend: run nvidia's own driver?
[15:57] <usr13> akaWolf: Scan the port with nmap
[15:57] <Casey> daftykins: yes sorry. When trying to move/paste files into the drives, they say they are "read-only". I am logged in on the only account on the system (except for going in as root) using GUI to cut/paste
[15:57] <grenadecx-Ascend> OerHeks, well, using nvidia 313 drivers from repo allows me to used twinview, but that only supports 2 monitors. Normally I could try to run twinview + 1 xorg, but that leaves me with a white screen, and enable xinerama wont work because of compiz
[15:58] <usr13> akaWolf: nmap -p <port-number-here>  192.168.xx.xx
[15:58] <akaWolf> usr13: Windows exist too on that PC. and work pretty well
[15:58] <grenadecx-Ascend> Not sure how nouveau handles it, but it works. Just slow like hell and every 2 mins it freezes a few seconds
[15:58] <daftykins> Casey: i'd be willing to bet that the RAID setup is being mounted read only in /etc/fstab
[15:59] <Casey> daftykins: here is my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/5918759/
[15:59] <akaWolf> usr13: state: closed, service: unknown
[15:59] <daftykins> Casey: change 'ro' to 'rw' in both your last two entries for sdb1 and sdc1
[15:59] <lang_> does anyone have an idea what I should do ? I ran startx andnow i get logged out themoment i try to log in
[15:59] <Casey> daftykins: thank you!
[15:59] <usr13> akaWolf: Ok then.  I would suggest the problem lies elswhere.
[16:00] <akaWolf> usr13: but not all ports...
[16:00] <daftykins> Casey: np :) reboot or remount after that should sort it.
[16:00] <mumpitze1> lang_: when you run startx you shouldn't need to login
[16:00] <dem1> Im using vpn with ubuntu but the dns server in use is the localhost (that points to my isp) and not to my vpn dns server.is there any way to change that?
[16:00] <akaWolf> usr13: another port: state open, service svn
[16:00] <Casey> daftykins: where it says users,users   and mask=000    why are those different?
[16:00] <usr13> akaWolf: Just do    nmap 192.168.xx.x    and see what is open or closed.
[16:01] <Casey> both drives should be the exact same, permissions, and setup wise....does that make sense?
[16:01] <daftykins> Casey: not a clue, you could save a copy then edit them the same to experiment if you like
[16:01] <akaWolf> usr13: open only two ports, but it is wrong..
[16:01] <Casey> daftykins: 10-4 thanks!
[16:01] <daftykins> Casey: both being mounted to separate paths, there's no RAID at all though surely 0o
[16:02] <akaWolf> usr13: I think, it's a low-lewel problem with a driver or something like that
[16:02] <usr13> akaWolf: With a driver?  What driver could it be?
[16:02] <Casey> daftykins: what do you mean?  2tb1 is two 2TB drives in raid1 and 2TB2 is two 2TB drives in raid1
[16:03] <Casey> daftykins: are you saying that neither are really in raid mode?
[16:03] <Benxyzzy> OK, nearly there. I'm going to put my current LVM password in a keyfile (on the machine) and add it to crypttab. I'm guessing the keyfile needs to go in /boot as that's the only unencrypted area initially. What would the crypttab kefile path look like?
[16:03] <akaWolf> usr13: I don't know, but in Windows all work good...
[16:03] <Benxyzzy> sdb5_crypt UUID=xyz... /boot/mykey.key luks          ???
[16:03] <lordshiva> hello
[16:03] <usr13> akaWolf: Are you thinking it may be the driver for the Network Interface?
[16:03] <akaWolf> usr13: yes
[16:03] <usr13> akaWolf:  I seriously doubt that.
[16:03] <Casey> daftykins: they are connected to a raid controller card, not onboard raid.
[16:04] <Bauer> WinstonSmith: thanks, booting from live USB allowed me to modify the UUID, I am now back from SSD drive, however now it says I have two SWAP partitions, first one is of course on SSD, and second: /dev/dm-0 - what is this?
[16:04] <akaWolf> usr13: but what else?..
[16:04] <usr13> akaWolf: Imporper usage of telnet command .... oh, I dono, there are others
[16:05] <usr13> akaWolf: you should also try nmap -PN  (no ping).
[16:05] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: no idea. just turn it off with "swapoff" ?
[16:05] <akaWolf> usr13: I use telnet true :)
[16:05]  * WinstonSmith shivers... telnet
[16:05] <akaWolf> usr13: right*
[16:06] <akaWolf> usr13: with "-PN" options nothing changes in output of nmap scan..
[16:06] <WinstonSmith> Bauer: and delete the swap partition/change its UUID on the old hdd
[16:07] <usr13> akaWolf: What port are you trying to use?
[16:08] <akaWolf> usr13: 2113
[16:08] <ZedGama3> Does anyone know if it is possible to get the windows 8 bootloader to load grub from a partition?  For instance if I installed grub onto /dev/sda5
[16:09] <akaWolf> usr13: 80
[16:09] <leshil> VMs all the way
[16:09] <usr13> akaWolf: And so you can connect to the other port, Right?
[16:09] <akaWolf> usr13: I can connect to 3690
[16:09] <usr13> akaWolf: What is the standard port for telent?
[16:09] <akaWolf> usr13: 21
[16:10] <ZedGama3> 21 is ftp
[16:10] <akaWolf> usr13: It's not that problem; I'm not so stupid )
[16:10] <ZedGama3> 23 is telnet
[16:10] <akaWolf> ZedGama3: something like that
[16:11] <akaWolf> usr13: $ telnet 192.168.1.2 80 Trying 192.168.1.2... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[16:11] <usr13> akaWolf: So you are able to initiate a telnet connection via port 23  Right?
[16:11] <akaWolf> usr13: $ telnet 192.168.1.2 3690 Trying 192.168.1.2... Connected to 192.168.1.2.
[16:12] <usr13> akaWolf: Looks to me like that PC does not have telnet listening on port 80
[16:13] <akaWolf> usr13: wrong, telnet -- universal util for receive-transmit data between two machines, not only for 23 port, but also for any else port
[16:13] <joshu> anyone know how to use pam_exec.so expose_authtok to get the user password?
[16:13] <tigranes> Hi! I booted in text mode. Is there a way to start network manager without X? I tried 'service NetworkManager start' and variants, but it cannot find the service.
[16:13] <akaWolf> usr13: ssh -p 2113 192.168.1.2 ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.2 port 2113: Connection refused
[16:14] <usr13> akaWolf: Well, yes. Most services are that way. You can tell them to listen on another port, other than the default one. But really, is that PC's service "telnet" really listening on port 80 ?  I dont know that.  And it appears that it isn't.
[16:15] <usr13> akaWolf: What kind of computer is on IP address 192.168.1.2?  (An MS Windows PC or ____________?)
[16:15] <akaWolf> usr13: If something listening on that port, telnet show that, and not more )
[16:15] <akaWolf> usr13: Ubuntu 12.04
[16:16] <brassmonkey> is there any possible way to sync music to a iphone 5 yet
[16:16] <usr13> akaWolf: So have you set the ssh deamon to listen to another port, (other than 22)?  (In the config file.. and then restart the service after changes made?)
[16:17] <akaWolf> usr13: ofcouse, in Windows all work
[16:17] <akaWolf> usr13: it's not a problem with server-pc with deamon
[16:18] <akaWolf> usr13: work only two ports, that very strange...
[16:18] <akaWolf> usr13: it must work about 5 ports listening
[16:19] <usr13> akaWolf: It will only work on the ports you tell it to
[16:20] <usr13> akaWolf: Take ssh for instance.  It will *only* listen on port 22.  You can change that in the config file and then restart the service, and then restart the service, but only then will sshd listen on a port other than port 22.  Okay?
[16:21] <igw3> my ubuntu 12.06LTS not shutting down
[16:22] <igw3> my ubuntu 12.06LTS not shutting down ...can any1 help out
[16:23] <akaWolf> usr13: ofc.
[16:23] <usr13> akaWolf: And I'm not sure what you are saying,  "in Window all work".  Not really sure what that means.  With MS Windows, it's pretty much the same situation, a service accepts connections on a particular port, and that is it.  That is not to say it can not be configured to listen on another port, but the default behaviour is to listen on that one port.  Let's say you install a webserver and an ftp server, the webserver will listen on port 80 and the ftp serve
[16:24] <akaWolf> usr13: mm... in Windows on that computer, not on server-pc
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> theres a 12.06 lts?
[16:24] <akaWolf> 12.04
[16:24] <macram> Dr_Willis: nope, 12.04 lts
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> igw3:  tell the channel what it is doing exactly.
[16:25] <macram> almost all *ubuntu versions are launched in april and october, then they'll be numbered XX.04 and XX.10
[16:25] <macram> only one Ubuntu version was launched in June
[16:25] <akaWolf> usr13: I not change anything at server-pc, and restarn only from one system to another on my work pc
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> then theres the .1 updated (and occasionally higher)
[16:25] <igw3> Dr_Willis: when i do a init 0 it shutdown but never powers off
[16:25] <macram> Dr_Willis: yep. Every six months there is a update to all LTS
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> igw3:  tried the shutdown and other commands?
[16:26] <igw3> yes i have
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> and.....?
[16:26] <macram> so, in 2012-10 was launched Ubuntu 12.04.1
[16:26] <usr13> akaWolf: What?  (Can you make that a little more clear, not sure I understand what you just said.)
[16:27] <akaWolf> usr13: sorry for my english
[16:27] <CiscoNinja> howdy, i keep getting crash report , "sorry, Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error. /usr/bin/compiz" can someone help me please
[16:27] <igw3> still the same problem Dr_Willis
[16:27] <usr13> akaWolf: I tell you what:  Tell us exactly what you want your Ubuntu PC to do.  (Above and beyond what it is not doing now.)
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> CiscoNinja:  if the system is working normally - it may be an old crash report -  You can clear out the 'apport' logs/crashes or just disable apport.
[16:27] <akaWolf> usr13: one moment..
[16:27] <usr13> ok
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73696/what-is-the-proper-terminal-way-to-shutdown/73698#73698
[16:28] <CiscoNinja> Dr_Willis, how can i clear the 'apport'
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> CiscoNinja:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=disable+apport
[16:29] <igw3> Dr_Willis: thanks gonna try it out
[16:29] <usr13> akaWolf: And make it one issue at a time.  Tell us what you want one service to do.  (And then you can move on to another.)
[16:30] <ZedGama3> Does anyone know how to change the boot entries for a UEFI system?  I've got ubuntu and windows working nicely, but there is an extra entry I'd like to remove.
[16:30] <Kitt3n> ZedGama3, and that is?
[16:30] <ZedGama3> There are two entries for ubuntu
[16:31] <Kitt3n> ZedGama3, does Grub show two entries for Ubuntu?
[16:31] <ZedGama3> That's the strange thing, it's not grub. I'm not sure where this menu is coming from
[16:31] <akaWolf> usr13: I install at server Ubuntu 12.04 lts and at my work PC Ubuntu 13.04 (after Windows 7). I install and configure sshd at server. and all work before I change IP settings in my router, but it's not really important, because at my work PC I can connect to any ports at my server (and sshd to), but not in Ubuntu 13.04. I want connect to my server in Ubuntu at my work PC...
[16:32] <Kitt3n> ZedGama3, is there a title on the menu?
[16:32] <ZedGama3> The only way I can boot into Ubuntu is by booting into windows, holding shift while clicking restart, and selecting boot other operating system.
[16:32] <usr13> akaWolf: Mean time, I'd lke to show you a command that might be useful in your situation(s). netstat -pantu  #It will show all ports that your Ubuntu system is listening on and info about them.
[16:32] <Bauer> I have a filed call .MircryptionKeys.txt in my home dir. However locate does not show when I search for MircryptionKeys.txt - why? and how to fix this?
[16:32] <Kitt3n> ZedGama3, oookay, I don't know how Windows behaves in UEFI
[16:32] <ZedGama3> But when I go into windows boot options it only lists windows 8...  Very confusing
[16:32] <akaWolf> usr13: yes, but it hard to me -- run that command on my server...
[16:33] <Kitt3n> !UEFI < ZedGama3
[16:33] <Kitt3n> ...Stupid bot
[16:33] <Kitt3n> !UEFI > ZedGama3
[16:33] <usr13> akaWolf: From what you just said, you are trying to connect to this server from outside?  Right?
[16:34] <akaWolf> usr13: yes, from my work P
[16:34] <akaWolf> C
[16:34] <Kitt3n> ZedGama3, my personal opinion is to just drop Windows unless you REALLY need it
[16:34] <usr13> akaWolf: From your work PC, to ________________?
[16:34] <usr13> (where)
[16:34] <thiebaude> Kitt3n, :)
[16:34] <ZedGama3> Unfortunately I do need it for some of the classes I'm taking
[16:34] <akaWolf> usr13: to 192.168.1.2 -- server
[16:34] <thiebaude> !vm
[16:35] <usr13> akaWolf: Is it on a different network?
[16:35] <guest-6384On> Help! I cleaned installed Xubuntu onto my computer which really helped with the long wait of turning on and logging into Xubuntu. BUT... I have a broken computer screen, so I have my computer hooked up to a monitor. I accidentally hit the wrong screen set-up on the monitor 1 and 2 set up, so that makes my monitor black and my computer on. Ohhhh  what should I do. I am talking to you in the Guest log in.
[16:35] <akaWolf> usr13: not, it's a local network
[16:35] <ZedGama3> And I've read the article you sent.  However, it doesn't go into detail as to how UEFI determines boot entries
[16:35] <Awaken> I need windows cos even on 13.04 with the shiny 3.9 kernel displaylink USB for my 3rd monitor only works under noveau. Which is icky. Even more so with a displaylink 3rd display using the same GPU.
[16:35] <Awaken> :/
[16:35] <usr13> akaWolf: Ok, so both PCs are connected to the same router.  Right?
[16:35] <ZedGama3> Perhaps I'll just have to wait until more information becomes available :-\
[16:35]  * Awaken wants fixed displaylink + proprietary (or better performing noveau)
[16:35] <guest-6384On> Is there a command in terminal that I can fix it with?
[16:36] <akaWolf> usr13: not exactly... between them exist switch...
[16:36] <Kitt3n> ZedGama3, the UEFI stuff is different on every computer, but virtualbox and Wine does exist
[16:36] <akaWolf> usr13: it's important?
[16:36] <thiebaude> Kitt3n, virtualbox is awesome
[16:36] <akaWolf> usr13: existing switch between them?
[16:36] <usr13> akaWolf: Not worried about the switch, (if it really *is* just a switch and not a router).  RIght?
[16:37] <akaWolf> usr13: it's really switch
[16:37] <ZedGama3> There has to be some kind of standardized setup because both windows is now aware of Ubuntu and able to boot it successfully.  It just doesn't seem to be well documented on how this process works.
[16:37] <Kitt3n> thiebaude, I agree! Well, the only thing I don't like is setting up network interfaces to link multiple virtual machines together, or perhaps I am just really stupid xD
[16:37] <usr13> akaWolf: Ok, computer A (client) is 192.168.1.?  Computer B (server) is 192.168.1.2
[16:38] <akaWolf> usr13: client is 192.168.1.3
[16:38] <Dell_the_Engie> hello
[16:38] <usr13> akaWolf:  192.168.1.2 is a Ubuntu 13.04 PC?
[16:38] <usr13> akaWolf: See my pm
[16:38] <Kitt3n> ZedGama3, well, on my computer, UEFI starts GRUB2 which then lets me boot into Ubuntu, and on my school laptop, GRUB2 handles Windows, the laptop isn't UEFI based, but I should think it would work the same way on UEFI
[16:39]  * Dell_the_Engie hugs you all
[16:39] <ZedGama3> I'll just have to do some more research on it.  I'm just not sure how ubuntu told windows that it was there, I'm assuming through the UEFI bios somehow.
[16:39] <guest-6384On> Help, someone! Does anyone know how to fix a monitor issue?
[16:40] <Dell_the_Engie> guest
[16:40] <Kitt3n> !ask guest-6384On
[16:40] <Kitt3n> DANG it
[16:40] <thiebaude> !ask
[16:40] <thiebaude> lol
[16:40] <Kitt3n> !ask | guest-6384On
[16:40] <thiebaude> haha
[16:40] <Bauer> I have a filed call .MircryptionKeys.txt in my home dir. However locate does not show when I search for MircryptionKeys.txt - why? and how to fix this?
[16:40] <kostkon> guest-6384On, describe your problem please
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  you updated the locate database recently? Locate can also have custom databases if you want to specificaly use it to search the users home.
[16:41] <mumpitze1> Bauer: run updatedb ?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> locate has a lot of features people never notice. :)
[16:41] <r1d4a3> hey
[16:41] <Bauer> Dr_Willis, mumpitze1  yes I have just ran updatedb again, and it still doesnt find the file
[16:42] <Dell_the_Engie> are there any other Windows users here? :3
[16:42] <r1d4a3> yes
[16:42] <r1d4a3> me use wind
[16:42] <Dell_the_Engie> :D
[16:42] <r1d4a3> :)
[16:42] <bekks> Dell_the_Engie: Whats the ubuntu problem you are facing?
[16:42] <guest-6384On> o.k.  I set up a clean install of xubuntu and spent hours setting it everything up nice again. I have a broken computer screen, so I have it hooked up to my monitor. I was trying to get the computer screen off so I can only see the monitor. I was doing this in the monitor section and turned off my monitor, so now I can't do anything, not even change it back. I am in guest log in talking to you right now. Is there a command in t
[16:42] <guest-6384On> erminal that can fix it?
[16:42] <Dell_the_Engie> wat
[16:43] <Dell_the_Engie> oh
[16:43] <thiebaude> guest-6384On, did you goto into display settings?
[16:43] <Dell_the_Engie> ubuntu wont install in my virtual machine
[16:44] <macram> Dell_the_Engie: you can simply download a preinstalled virtual machine
[16:44] <bekks> !details | Dell_the_Engie
[16:44] <macram> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines
[16:44] <Bauer> Dr_Willis, mumpitze1: apparently ALL files starting with a DOT (.filename) do NOT show up using locate
[16:44] <Bauer> why?
[16:44] <guest-6384On> ummm display settings is where you can get a photo up onto your screen. I went into the monitor section.
[16:44] <macram> sorry Dell_the_Engie :) http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> guest-6384On:  you mean the Lightdm/login screen works?  but not the users actual desktop?
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  locate .bashrc here - works fine for me.
[16:45] <Dell_the_Engie> its stuck on running "update grub
[16:45] <Dell_the_Engie> "
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  you using an encrypted home perhaps?
[16:45] <guest-6384On> I went into the settings manager and then to monitor.
[16:45] <Dell_the_Engie> thanks
[16:45] <thiebaude> guest-6384On, are you on ubuntu?
[16:45] <Bauer> Dr_Willis: yes I do actually
[16:45] <guest-6384On> I'm in xubuntu
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  just a guess - but its some locate option or the encrypted homes are goofing things up. Im NOT using an encrypted home.
[16:46] <thiebaude> ahh ok guest-6384On
[16:46] <thiebaude> im not familiar with xubuntu
[16:46] <thiebaude> just ubuntu 13.04
[16:46] <guest-6384On> should I go to xubuntu chat?
[16:46] <thiebaude> yes guest-6384On  good idea
[16:46] <Dell_the_Engie> im gonna get a new computer this year, should i install ubuntu on this one or keep it as a backup?
[16:46] <guest-6384On> k
[16:46] <thiebaude> good luck with your isse guest-6384On
[16:47] <thiebaude> issue
[16:48] <sushant> hey guys i m using ubuntu studio
[16:48]  * Dell_the_Engie is being ignored :\
[16:48] <daftykins> Dell_the_Engie: you're asking a question about a personal choice from what i can tell, so we can't answer :D
[16:48] <thiebaude> Dell_the_Engie, did you already download the ubuntu .iso?
[16:49] <Dell_the_Engie> yea
[16:49] <thiebaude> on virtualbox?
[16:49] <Dell_the_Engie> yes, its installing now
[16:49] <anonymous_> oi
[16:49] <Dell_the_Engie> i got it working :D
[16:49] <thiebaude> ok cool
[16:49] <anonymous_> ai galera
[16:50] <Ampelbein> guest-6384On: You can try renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.back and restart.
[16:50] <Dell_the_Engie> and i have a couple more questions if you dont mind :3
[16:50] <thiebaude> go for it
[16:50] <Dell_the_Engie> how would a windows user like myself switch over? would my programs still work?
[16:51] <thiebaude> Dell_the_Engie, it depends on what you use on windows now
[16:51] <Dell_the_Engie> steam, ventrillo, stuff like that
[16:51] <Awaken> you're not going to be able to run all of your windows games
[16:51] <jrib> Dell_the_Engie: usually, you would use native programs.  But some programs are available on both (like firefox, chrome, etc.).  There's also wine which would let you run windows programs through it, but I'd suggest using a native app whenever possible
[16:52] <Dell_the_Engie> ok
[16:52] <Te3-BloodyIron> i'm trying to use a repo for newer package versions of samba4, but my install still favors the main repos, what's the best way to make the other repo paramount?
[16:52] <nyl> i chopped my ubuntu install again
[16:52] <thiebaude> and not all programs run on wine
[16:52] <Awaken> but there's lots more games coming to linux every day and steam is now available properly for linux - and it works quite well :)
[16:52] <nyl> nvidia 319.32 drivers just won't work
[16:52] <thiebaude> Dell_the_Engie, when i started out i did dual-boot
[16:52] <Bauer> thanks for the hint Dr_Willis , I followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/20821/using-locate-on-an-encrypted-partition and once I modified updatedb.conf, it work :)
[16:53] <Bauer> very very stupid default :
[16:53] <Bauer> :(
[16:53] <thiebaude> nyl, i use nvidia :)
[16:53] <thiebaude> on the desktop
[16:53] <nyl> i use on both desktop and laptop
[16:54] <nyl> the laptop just hates linux
[16:54] <nyl> :(
[16:54] <Dell_the_Engie> how different is windows to ubuntu, or, any linus distribution for that matter
[16:54] <Bauer> How do I request an update on Ubuntu installer? so that when it offers users to make encrypted home, it would warn them that locate by default would not work? its a big  issue
[16:54] <Te3-BloodyIron> can anyon help me with my repo issue? im sure it's an easy solution
[16:54] <thiebaude> Dell_the_Engie, big difference
[16:54] <jrib> !bug | Bauer
[16:54] <daftykins> Te3-BloodyIron: i think it goes by order inside sources.list - did you add the new one to the top?
[16:54] <Dell_the_Engie> because ive been using windows all my life
[16:55] <nyl> has anyone installed 319.32 on 13.04  ubuntu
[16:55] <tozen> Dell_the_Engie: same as cars looks similar but driving differently.
[16:55] <daftykins> Dell_the_Engie: there'll be a learning curve. just get trying it and you'll see, your questions can't really be answered easily
[16:55] <Dell_the_Engie> ok
[16:55] <daftykins> boot a LiveCD maybe
[16:55]  * nyl <- optimus laptop
[16:55] <thiebaude> nyl, which card model?
[16:55] <Te3-BloodyIron> daftykins: ill try that thanks
[16:55] <thiebaude> NVIDIA
[16:55] <thiebaude> opps
[16:55] <nyl> thiebaude, GT540M
[16:55] <thiebaude> ok
[16:56] <OerHeks> Te3-BloodyIron, what repo did you add, and did you perform sudo apt-get update before looking versionnumbers?
[16:56] <Bauer> uhm jrib what package is locate/updatedb? it says not exists on updatedb, not installed on locate
[16:56] <thiebaude> mines the older nvidia 8400gs
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[16:56] <daftykins> 0o
[16:56] <nyl> on desktop 9600GT XFX
[16:56] <randomaussie> hi all... i've installed te nvidia drivers but when i run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" but i get the error " unable to locate/open X configuration file."    some advice please
[16:56] <nyl> on desktop works great
[16:56] <thiebaude> nyl, in osftware center did you goto addional drivers?
[16:56] <daftykins> randomaussie: try running "sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf" first
[16:57] <Te3-BloodyIron> daftykins: no luck with that :/
[16:57] <jrib> Bauer: well the way you stated it suggested you thought it was an installer issue.  In any case, the answer to your current question is: dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which locate))
[16:57] <Dell_the_Engie> one more question
[16:57] <Dell_the_Engie> whats with the penguin?
[16:57] <daftykins> Te3-BloodyIron: so you did it, ran 'sudo apt-get update' and then tried to install samba?
[16:57] <randomaussie> daftykins: its automatically written a file at the location
[16:57] <daftykins> Dell_the_Engie: everyone needs a friendly mascot ;)
[16:57] <Dell_the_Engie> true
[16:58] <Bauer> jrib: well because they wont modify the defaults of updatedb due to security issues, but the installer must warn the user, that locate wont index /home if encrypted home is chosen
[16:58] <Bauer> its not obvious, I lost hours because I thought the file is somehow gone
[16:58] <sushant> does any body produce audio using linux?
[16:58] <sushant> i need sugestion
[16:58] <Bauer> jrib: so the only sensible solution would be to warn the user during installation
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> sushant  better ask in #ubuntu-studio
[17:00] <OerHeks> Bauer, sounds logic to me, indexing is off in encrypted. maybe swap is also off.
[17:00] <Te3-BloodyIron> daftykins : yes
[17:00] <daftykins> randomaussie: yep so now re-run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:01] <jrib> Bauer: personally, I don't think it's necessary to do so.  Most users won't use locate unless they are comfortable with the command line and config files.  If you see locate is missing results in your HOME, you'd likely investigate how it's configured
[17:01] <Bauer> OerHeks: logically yes, but the non-experienced user might go with enecrypted home without understanding the meaning of it. and later like me, not understand why locate does not find files. I didnt even know what to look for at first until Dr_Willis  clued me in
[17:01] <Kurogane> anyone can help me with this? http://pastebin.com/Q2E9GyX8
[17:03] <randomaussie> daftykins: when i tried touch it sayd no such file or directory... and when i try to rerun sudo nvidia-xconfig it just rewrite the file it created the first time
[17:03] <daftykins> Kurogane: this is as root i assume?
[17:03] <daftykins> randomaussie: its' objective is to create /etc/X11/xorg.conf - does it exist or not?
[17:03] <Kurogane> daftykins, what you mean?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  theres DOZENS of things that dont  'work' due to encrypted homes.
[17:03] <Bauer> jrib: I didnt even know updatedb had a conf file, first thing I tried to do is google why locate does not find files beginning with . (obviously without any useful results.. I dont think locate is so advanced only the most experienced users use it.. I used it for long time
[17:04] <daftykins> Kurogane: are you running 'do-release-upgrade' as root?
[17:04] <jrib> Bauer: it warrants discussion; that was just my personal opinion on it
[17:04] <Kurogane> daftykins, yep
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  locate  has  some very advanced features. Ive rarely scratched 1% of its features ;)
[17:04] <Te3-BloodyIron> daftykins: you're a busy beaver :P
[17:04] <Bauer> Dr_Willis: isnt it all the more reason to put a WARNING for users during installation? so they'd be aware of the potential problems
[17:04] <CiscoNinja> okay, running 13.04 w/xfce and i have nx installed , but when i connect to my box using nxclient it opens the session with unity which i don't want , what is going wrong please help
[17:04] <randomaussie> nvidia-xconfig seems to think it does but touch doesnt
[17:04] <daftykins> Te3-BloodyIron: i prefer - masochistic multi-tasker
[17:04] <daftykins> ;)
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  you will have 1000 warnings and scary dialogs - so thats not going to happen.
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  they have trimmed down the installer to the barest minimal questions over the years.
[17:05] <Te3-BloodyIron> jrib: i haven't found "locate" to be horribly useful, mostly because i haven't yet seen a distro with it working out of the box just yet, but that might just be my fault
[17:05] <uvala> hello, 36° greets to everyone! I am constantly receiving a partial upgrade message after update manager does updating, saying "not all upgrades can be installed..run a partial upgrade to install as many upgrades as possible"..how can I solve this?
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  personally ive seen more people have issues with the 'auto login feature' because they cant seem to understand you can still logout. :)
[17:05] <Te3-BloodyIron> daftykins: if you could point me to a method to force this external repo to take precedence i would appreciate it
[17:05] <randomaussie> daftykins: nvidia-xconfig seems to think it does but touch doesnt
[17:05] <Te3-BloodyIron> daftykins: or if you have other ideas
[17:05] <Bauer> jrib: what would be the best place to begin such discussion? and hopefully convince enough people to make at least some short warning?
[17:06] <Bauer> lol Dr_Willis  :)
[17:06] <jrib> Te3-BloodyIron: ubuntu's locate works oob ;)
[17:06] <heroes> hello
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  the lightdm changes wallpaper - is one issue with encrypted homes. User defined samba shares in their home, is yet another problem. theres not going to be a 'secure' fix to any of this i imagine.
[17:06] <Bauer> Te3-BloodyIron: locate always worked on pretty much every distro I every used... ubuntu, debian, centos, suse
[17:06] <CiscoNinja> okay, running 13.04 w/xfce and i have nx installed , but when i connect to my box using nxclient it opens the session with unity which i don't want , what is going wrong please help
[17:07] <Dell_the_Engie> know any good windows related chats
[17:07] <heroes> how to install ubuntu on adroid phone?
[17:07] <jrib> Bauer: you could file a bug against the installer (or the package that provides locate) and see what happens.  You might also try mailing lists (lists.ubuntu.com)
[17:07] <DJones> !phone | heroes
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> Bauer:  much bigger issue ive seen is users not underatanding how to access their encrypted homes from a live cd.
[17:07] <bekks> CiscoNinja: You have tell the sessions what you want to start
[17:07] <daftykins> Te3-BloodyIron: i think i'm at the end of my experience i'm afraid, i can only imagine the repo you added doesn't have anything newer? *shrug*
[17:07] <DJones> Dell_the_Engie: ##windows for Windows discussion
[17:07] <daftykins> randomaussie: type "ls /etc/X11/" and see if it reports it there
[17:08] <Dell_the_Engie> thanks
[17:08] <bekks> CiscoNinja: start a custom command like "/usr/bin/gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d"
[17:09] <Bauer> Dr_Willis: I also disagree that bare minimal installation without even a hint(s) and small explanation on every choice, is the best way to go about in a major and popular  distribution  for unexperienced users, which ubuntu serves a lot.
[17:09] <CiscoNinja> bekks, the only option there is GNOME,KDE,CDE and XDM and currently i am using GNOME on that session
[17:09] <Te3-BloodyIron> jrib: shush you
[17:09] <bekks> CiscoNinja: You can choose to start a custom command.
[17:10] <CiscoNinja> yes bekks
[17:10] <bekks> CiscoNinja: Then do it, at start whatever you want ;)
[17:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> daftykins: that's the thing, it does have newer stuff. im doing 12.04 server, and it has samba4 4.0.0-alpha18, but the new repo is 4.0.7
[17:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> the very reason i switched to 12.04 instead of 13.04 is because the repo is set for 12.04
[17:10] <Bauer> Dr_Willis: small hit icon like in many websites, which pops up a baloon with a little information would not hurt a minimalist style, while giving the needed information to those who require it.
[17:10] <CiscoNinja> bekks, but am not sure what is the command line for xfce
[17:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> but 13.04 has 4.0.0 release, and is the first ubuntu version where the main repos have a release of SAMBA4
[17:11] <randomaussie> daftkins: sorry mate rookie mistake... didnt have a capital X11
[17:11] <bekks> CiscoNinja: just look up whats the name of the session.
[17:12] <CiscoNinja> bekks, am not sure what do you want me to do here
[17:12] <bekks> CiscoNinja: When logging in, you can choose which session you want to start. That menu entry has a name - you need that name.
[17:13] <CiscoNinja> bekks, you are talking about my original box and not when i nx to it
[17:13] <bekks> CiscoNinja: Yes.
[17:13] <daftykins> Te3-BloodyIron: mmm, perhaps there's an architecture incompatibility so it's hiding them - sorry not sure what to try next!
[17:14] <bekks> CiscoNinja: And for using nx, you need to know the name of the session you are starting on the original box.
[17:14] <Dell_the_Engie> anyone else here using xchat?
[17:14] <bekks> Dell_the_Engie: Why?
[17:14] <Dell_the_Engie> idk
[17:14] <holstein> Dell_the_Engie: i have, if you have a specific question, go ahead and ask it..
[17:14] <CiscoNinja> bekks, never had to do all of this when i was running 10.10 :S i missed 10.10 lol
[17:14] <joshu> how do you execute a lightdm .desktop session from the command line and pass in arguments?
[17:14] <CiscoNinja> brb
[17:14] <Dell_the_Engie> theres no one in #windws
[17:14] <Dell_the_Engie> *windows
[17:14] <pavepaws> :F
[17:15] <bekks> daftykins: Its intended, no error. The xorg.conf is gone for ages now. If you really need it, you can create it.
[17:15] <pavepaws> COUNTERFIRE!
[17:15] <holstein> Dell_the_Engie: its ##windows
[17:15] <DJones> Dell_the_Engie: I didn't say #windows, I said ##windows
[17:15] <randomaussie> daftykin: i have tried twice now to run nvidia-xconfig and restart the lightdm and the drivers still ar not loaded according to the nvidia x server program
[17:15] <Dell_the_Engie> and thats what i joined
[17:15] <daftykins> bekks: you're telling the helper not the request-ee - i know how antiquated the file is but i decided to facilitate the task not fight the intention :)
[17:15] <bekks> Dell_the_Engie: there are hundreds of people in there.
[17:15] <bekks> daftykins: :P
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> Dell_the_Engie, You made no post that made sense.
[17:16] <holstein> Dell_the_Engie: i would double check.. the windows channel is quite active.. if you are seeking xchat for windows support, this is not the channel, unfortunately
[17:16] <daftykins> randomaussie: is the file there then? and contains the nvidia details?
[17:16] <CiscoNinja> bekks, it is xfce session
[17:16] <sendaljepit> firewall
[17:16] <daftykins> randomaussie: there might be a better way to go about it that's needed to be done
[17:17] <Dell_the_Engie> no one is talking in it though :/
[17:17] <bekks> CiscoNinja: Then replace ubuntu-2d with xfce in the command I gave you.
[17:17] <bekks> Dell_the_Engie: Then ask a question that makes sense.
[17:18] <CiscoNinja> bekks, failed to start xfce session
[17:18] <randomaussie> daftykin: yeah the file contains nvidia referances in it
[17:19] <bekks> CiscoNinja: Then try using "startxfce" instead, as command.
[17:19] <bekks> CiscoNinja: With the full path to the binary.
[17:19] <daftykins> randomaussie: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? i'll bbs - need to take care of something
[17:19] <flick> hi... i want to install mandelbulber, but when i do it from the "Ubuntu Software Center" GUI, it gives an error saying package is in unauthenticated server
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> flick, Do you get a missing gpg key in the error
[17:20] <Te3-BloodyIron> daftykins: looks like the package i was expecting was sernet-samba not samba4, the added repo doesn't replace the existing package name
[17:20] <Te3-BloodyIron> so that was a shortcoming on the repo documentation
[17:20] <Te3-BloodyIron> but looks like it's working... so far
[17:20] <Te3-BloodyIron> thanks for your help
[17:21] <daftykins> Te3-BloodyIron: np :)
[17:21] <nyl> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543727_607188485981800_807711551_n.jpg
[17:21] <flick> wilee-nilee, oh i turned on the "Canonical Partner" repository in synaptic package manager, and now it works
[17:22] <flick> i am getting good
[17:22] <flick> at troubleshooting
[17:22] <flick> :)
[17:22] <nyl> even tux loves the desktop more :))
[17:22] <adorno> hi
[17:22] <adorno> what is upstart-udev-bridge
[17:22] <adorno> and is it safe to remove
[17:22] <randomaussie> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/5919032
[17:23] <CiscoNinja> bekks, 'XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session2
[17:23] <flick> how can i check something 3D to see if my computer can display 3D scenarios?
[17:24] <holstein> flick: do you need 3d? there is always glxgears
[17:24] <flick> i think it is called open gl or something...
[17:24] <flick> okay
[17:24] <brassmonkey> hey guys, is there a way to remove all the bloat from ubuntu without corrupting the installation by removing shared packages?
[17:24] <holstein> brassmonkey: "bloat" can be a matter of opinion.. you might want to start with a "lighter" one.. xubuntu/lubuntu.. etc
[17:25] <CiscoNinja> bekks, and DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce , so am confused now
[17:26] <flick> i get 30-40fps fullscreen
[17:26] <nyl> 319.32 nvidia drivers hate unity
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> flick, Cool, enjoy.
[17:26] <nyl> i think
[17:26] <flick> good enough i guess - with glxgears - thankx
[17:26] <brassmonkey> holstein, by bloat i mean programs  installed that i will never use,  etc. i prefer to use the main flavor of distro's because i tend to have a few issues down the road with community for example xfce may have problems after ubuntu releases updates etc
[17:26] <holstein> brassmonkey: you can remove what you want, or start with something that doesnt ship things you dont use
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> nyl, Really nvidia drivers are sentient.
[17:27] <brassmonkey> holstein, how many packages share other packages now? like i tried to remove ubuntu help and got a warning that 25 other programs might not work etc
[17:27] <holstein> brassmonkey: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. not "community" necessarily
[17:27] <Dell_the_Engie> bye guys!
[17:27] <nyl> i've installed them and i only get mesa driver
[17:27] <holstein> brassmonkey: you would need to refer to a particular package for details.. you can remove what you like
[17:27] <nyl> after restart
[17:27] <nyl> and no unity
[17:28] <nyl> even tough i did nvidia-xconfig, nothing changed
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> !enter | nyl
[17:28] <adorno> what is upstart-udev-bridge
[17:28] <adorno> and is it safe to remove
[17:28] <brassmonkey> it's been a long time since i've used debian based distro's and am not a linux expert by any means. but i noticed on arch it seems almost all packages are individual layers to the gnu, is that the same for debian but ubuntu just has the warnings to prevent newbies from uninstalling things?
[17:29] <holstein> brassmonkey: ubuntu packages have dependencies.. you can remove what you lik
[17:30] <brassmonkey> holstein, so when i remove say ubuntu help and it says 25 packages are dependent on it, its not actually true its just a warning that those other packages might have an option that uses the ubuntu help?
[17:30] <ilinoin> ?
[17:31] <holstein> brassmonkey: i dont know what "ubuntu help" is, friend.. what packages are you trying to remove, and by what method? what is happening? and what you would like to have happen?
[17:31] <holstein> !info ubuntu-help
[17:31] <Kitt3n> brassmonkey, if you remove a package that other packages depends on, those other packages will obviously break or do weird things.
[17:32] <brassmonkey> Kitt3n, i cant comprehend why ubuntu would have so many package dependencies compared to other distro's where the packages are completely separate
[17:32] <holstein> brassmonkey: all distros/operating systems willl have similar issues
[17:32] <holstein> brassmonkey: what specifically are you trying to remove, and how?
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> brassmonkey, If your trying to trim ubuntu you are wasting your time, easier to install with the mini netload and build up probably.
[17:34] <brassmonkey> holstein, i am currently using arch and am no way bashing ubuntu as i want a stable distro with a good community . i am basically wondering if it will be possible for me to strip ubuntu to the point of where my arch system is
[17:34] <holstein> brassmonkey: yes
[17:35] <holstein> brassmonkey: you would state "i want to remove 'package-name'" assuming, after you install, you cant sort that out on your own
[17:35] <holstein> brassmonkey: i suggest, as i have before, and wilee-nilee suggested, to try starting with something that fits your needs
[17:36] <ikonia> brassmonkey: if you have to ask that question, you should really consider what you are doing
[17:36] <brassmonkey> holstein, i dont have many needs, as linux is more of a hobby and OS that i use primarily use for security flaws of windows i just like the distro to run fast
[17:36] <Flannel> brassmonkey: Instead of stripping it, just start with the bare system, install the version which is CLI-only (not the server install, you don't need the server specific stuff), and then build-up from there.
[17:36] <ikonia> brassmonkey: "distro run fast" - that doesn't mean you need to strip it
[17:36] <holstein> !mini > brassmonkey
[17:36] <Flannel> brassmonkey: This used to be done via the alternate CD.  I'm not 100% certain how you do it other than the mini or server CDs on versions without an alt CD
[17:37] <holstein> ilinoin: may i help you?
[17:38] <brassmonkey> when you run the minimal cd, do you have to manually choose display drivers, wifi etc? or is it fairly automated but you choose the packages you want to install and DE
[17:38] <ikonia> brassmonkey: you will need to select what you need
[17:38] <holstein> brassmonkey: you *get* to manualy choose *everything* that is installed
[17:39] <brassmonkey> right on
[17:39] <ikonia> brassmonkey: I strongly advise you not to do this, as it will not make a "faster" system
[17:39] <Kitt3n> Yah
[17:39] <ikonia> brassmonkey: you will find there is no difference between your arch build and your ubuntu build in terms of performance
[17:39] <holstein> i would grab a lubuntu or xubuntu live CD and start there brassmonkey
[17:45] <Casey> any reason why ububtu does not let my 1Gbs lan connection, connect at 1Gbs? Nic card, router, are both 10/100/1000, cable is cat5e under 20 meters.
[17:46] <ikonia> Casey: how are you checking the speed ?
[17:46] <Gnjurac> hi can somone help me i want to install doom3
[17:47] <randomaussie> boo
[17:47] <pavepaws> where
[17:47] <pavepaws> king boo  D:
[17:47] <daftykins> Gnjurac: there are guides online, a script on the disc i think
[17:47] <Gnjurac> when i rund setup doom3-linux-1.3.1.1304.x86.run it seys setup file not find
[17:47] <ikonia> guys, can you please try to talk in clear English sencences, rather than random words
[17:48] <ikonia> Gnjurac: you're not in the same directory as the file
[17:48] <Gnjurac> i think it hest to do whit i am using 64
[17:48] <Casey> ikonia: all data transfer move at a tops of 9MB/s, when i go into the "network tools" it shows connection speed: not available  and on my router, it displays an amber light for 100Mbps connections and green for 1Gbps connections.
[17:48] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  ther is only 1 file
[17:48] <ikonia> Gnjurac: show me how you are trying to run it
[17:48] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Doom3
[17:48] <ikonia> Gnjurac: show me how you are trying to run it
[17:48] <daftykins> randomaussie: is it an nvidia optimus laptop?
[17:48] <Gnjurac> i tryd terminal and dubleclick
[17:49] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  and it runs asks me for sudo password if dubleclick
[17:49] <ikonia> Gnjurac: then what happens ?
[17:49] <ikonia> Gnjurac: I think this is a terminal based installer
[17:49] <daftykins> ^
[17:49] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  nothing it seys file not found
[17:50] <ikonia> Gnjurac: run it from the terminal
[17:50] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  i did it seys same
[17:50] <ikonia> Casey: can you run mii-tool against the interface please
[17:50] <ikonia> Gnjurac: please show me how you are trying to run it in the terminal
[17:50] <Gnjurac> meybe beacuse i am 64 and  this is x86
[17:50] <ikonia> Casey: or run ethtool against it
[17:50] <ikonia> Gnjurac: that will explain it
[17:51] <ikonia> Gnjurac: libraries will be missing,
[17:51] <Casey> ikonia: the only data tester I own just shows for pair connections, not speed. :-/
[17:51] <Gnjurac> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Doom3 on this plage it seys if runing 64 to try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[17:52] <nyl> i think i gonna remove ubuntu on my laptop, video is scruedup everytime
[17:52] <Gnjurac> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:52] <Gnjurac>  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch
[17:52] <Gnjurac> i cant apt-get install ia32-libs
[17:54] <nannes> Gnjurac: you have to to all the stuff  add-architecture i386  etc. etc.
[17:54] <kontagious> hey my flash player crashes and locks my whole computer. any ideas?
[17:54] <irssi-mike> Gnjurac: well u need ia32-libs-multiarch
[17:55] <Gnjurac> so i  need to sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch
[17:55] <irssi-mike> Gnjurac: if it's there sure, i don't think it
[17:55] <kontagious> when i press the physical power button it shows the power down options but the flash player stays full screen essentially locking it up
[17:56] <Gnjurac> nannes:  how to  add-architecture i386
[17:56] <randomaussie> daftykin: no its a asus eeepc with a nvidia ion2 gpu chipset
[17:57] <nannes> Gnjurac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System
[17:57] <Kitt3n> Gnjurac, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[17:57] <daftykins> randomaussie: oh? the logs suggest it's using an intel driver, so the atom must have embedded graphics too 0o
[17:58] <Casey> ikonia: i am not familiar with ethtool, which command would I be looking to us?
[17:58] <nannes> Gnjurac: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[17:58] <kontagious> i saw in the forum (lol) that using 64-bit ubuntu has flash player problems. should i just format :(
[17:58] <Gnjurac> nannes:  yes but when i try ia320libs it givse erro
[17:58] <nannes> anyway, look at my link
[17:58] <Gnjurac> nanaes i just try thet
[17:58] <Kitt3n> Gnjurac, what's the error?
[17:59] <randomaussie> daftykins: yeah if i rememeber right it has 2 gfx controlers... one is a basic intel one for power savig and then it has the ion2 for gpu stuff... i take it linux doesnt work with this?
[17:59] <Gnjurac> i mispeld  sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[17:59] <randomaussie> daftykins: but its 1 chipset
[17:59] <babylone12> hi everybody
[18:00] <daftykins> randomaussie: i have an ion1, but it just has the nvidia, no onboard intel. mixed chips tech with onboard intel tends to be called nvidia optimus, which doesn't work quite right under Linux - i'm just looking into it though
[18:00] <ikonia> Casey: sudo ethtool $interface_name
[18:00] <ikonia> Gnjurac: do not do that !!!!
[18:00] <Nimble> daftykins, bumblebee works pretty well
[18:00] <randomaussie> daftykin: ok now i know what to look for i'll look into it too
[18:00] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  what
[18:00] <ikonia> Gnjurac: do not do sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[18:00] <daftykins> randomaussie: here we are - http://joepcremers.com/wordpress/ubuntu-now-supporting-nvidia-optimus-ion2/
[18:00] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  why i areadly did
[18:01] <daftykins> Nimble: i really need to get around to trying that :) ty
[18:01] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  what to do
[18:01] <ikonia> then your machine will end up screwed
[18:01] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  how to undon it
[18:01] <ikonia> Gnjurac: remove it - why have you dont this ?
[18:01] <ikonia> Gnjurac: you've not done apt-get update or installed anything after doing this have you ?
[18:01] <randomaussie> daftykins: you are fast my friend
[18:02] <Gnjurac> i have apt-get update but dident istall anything
[18:02] <daftykins> randomaussie: ;D
[18:02] <Casey> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5919160/
[18:02] <Gnjurac> try ia32-libs-multiarch but still same error
[18:02] <ikonia> Gnjurac: what do you mean "try ia32-libs-multiarch"
[18:02] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  so what to do know
[18:02] <ikonia> Gnjurac: I'm afriad I can't support your machine after you've added x86 support
[18:02] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  i try to sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch but it give me same error so
[18:03] <ikonia> Casey: that looks like your router is not negotiating up to 1gb
[18:03] <Gnjurac> ikonia:   nanes told me <nannes> Gnjurac: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[18:03] <Nimble> Gnjurac, what program?
[18:04] <Casey> ikonia: does it help if I tell you that it works on other machines, (windows computers) just not this ubuntu machine.
[18:04] <ikonia> Casey: sort of, but not really
[18:04] <ikonia> Casey: that at least shows your router is capable,
[18:04] <ikonia> Casey: the problem is your router/ubuntu machine don't negotiate correctly to the max speed
[18:04] <Nimble> Gnjurac, what program are you trying to run?
[18:05] <Sophaya> Question, you know how when you install something via apt, it finds all of the dependencies needed, was there ever a time where to install anything on a linux distro, you had to manually find all the dependencies?
[18:05] <Casey> ikonia: I know for sure it does, one of the reasons why I bought it...also for the 128MB of RAM and 128 of Flash memory ^_^
[18:05] <ikonia> Gnjurac: then you have been give terrible advice
[18:05] <Gnjurac> Nimble:  i wanted to install doom 3 on my pc but it is x86 and my pc is x64 so on page seys to install  ia32-libs but when i try to install it gave me error then nanes told me to  sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 and i did  then ikonia told me thet i shoudent do thet thet it will screw my pc but i arad don it
[18:05] <jrib> Sophaya: yes, no one likes that time
[18:05] <Nimble> what error do you get when you install ia23-libs
[18:05] <Nimble> you might just be missing a package
[18:06] <Kitt3n> Gnjurac, Yes, PASTE the god damn error
[18:06] <Nimble> so there's no point in adding every i386 package
[18:06] <ikonia> Casey: you can try forcing the network card, but that probably won't work unless you force the switch port too
[18:06] <ikonia> Kitt3n: tone it down please.
[18:06] <Sophaya> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs usually works for me,
[18:06] <Nimble> adding i386 is kind of like throwing spaghetti at the wall and watching what sticks
[18:06] <Gnjurac> Kitt3n:  i did
[18:06] <Nimble> but if you give us the error we can see what you need to do
[18:06] <Gnjurac> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:06] <Gnjurac>  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:06] <Gnjurac> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:06] <Kitt3n> ikonia, sure, sure.
[18:06] <ikonia> how about researchign what's missing from where before randomly telling people to install packages
[18:06] <Casey> ikonia: do you know of a good help site that can take me step-by-step?
[18:06]  * wilee-nilee wants someone to pet the Kitt3n 
[18:06] <Gnjurac> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:06] <Gnjurac>  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:06] <Gnjurac> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:06] <Kitt3n> wilee-nilee, <3
[18:07] <Sophaya> I'm assuming 64-bit ubuntu doesn't contain any 32-bit libs by default?
[18:07] <Nimble> did you try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[18:07] <ikonia> wilee-nilee: please, stop
[18:07] <Nimble> ?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[18:07] <ikonia> Casey: you can use ethtool to force it, you can force it at boot depending on which kernel module it uses,
[18:07] <jrib> I haven't followed the history of this conversation but all ia32-libs does now is try to use multiarch packages.  It won't work unless you enable i386 multiarch
[18:07] <irssi-mike> Gnjurac: if it were me i'd travel over to packages.ubuntu.com
[18:07] <Gnjurac> Nimble: yes
[18:07] <ikonia> Casey: the hard part will be forcing the port on the router
[18:07] <Nimble> what error do yo uget?
[18:08] <ikonia> Casey: what network card is this ?
[18:08] <Gnjurac> i will need a pastbin for this 1
[18:08] <Kitt3n> jrib, well, I installed ia32-libs not too long ago, and it downloaded the 32 bits libraries like usual ehh.
[18:08] <Nimble> alright
[18:08] <jrib> Kitt3n: then you either did that before multiarch was introduced or you have i386 multiarch enabled
[18:09] <Casey> ikonia: give me a second, its onboard so I gotta lookup the chipset.
[18:09] <Gnjurac> jrib:  i think you are the man
[18:09] <Guest52045> Hi...I'm new to Ubuntu....I want to install a VM of a Xampp localhost and would like to know how to avoid Mysqll being on the same port as the host machine....can someone explain?
[18:09] <Casey> ikonia: Realtek 8111F
[18:09] <joshu> is there a secure way to temporarily store the user's password?
[18:10] <jrib> joshu: why do you want to?
[18:10] <Awaken> umm, Guest52045, if you use bridged networking the VM will have a separate IP from your host system and it wont matter
[18:10] <Gnjurac> jrib:  how to undon this dpkg --add-architecture i386
[18:11] <joshu> because I'm trying to start a lightdm user session with Exec=somecommand -username user -password pass that requires the username and password as entered during login to ubuntu
[18:11] <joshu> @jrib
[18:11] <jrib> Gnjurac: if you want ia32-libs installed, then you don't want to undo that.  There's nothing wrong with adding i386 support
[18:11] <Gnjurac> sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i386 did the job
[18:11] <CiscoNinja> okay i have wasted almost a whole hour trying to figure why when i use nx from another machine to my current box the nx comes up with unity when i am using xfce in my box! could someone help me please
[18:11] <Gnjurac> jrib:  ok ikonia told me thet thet will f my pc
[18:11] <jrib> Gnjurac: I disagree
[18:12] <Nimble> how is he supposed to know who is right
[18:12] <Guest52045> Thank you Awakening...I'm afraid I know very little about bridged networking but will look into it.
[18:12] <jrib> joshu: you might try #bash.  I'm not sure what your best bet there is.
[18:12] <Nimble> what error does ia32-libs-multiarch do you get?
[18:12] <Nimble> give you*
[18:12] <joshu> jrib ok
[18:12] <CiscoNinja> okay i have wasted almost a whole hour trying to figure why when i use nx from another machine to my current box the nx comes up with unity when i am using xfce in my box! could someone help me please
[18:12] <CiscoNinja> anyone
[18:12] <joshu> ikonia do you have any ideas ;)
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> !details > CiscoNinja
[18:13] <jrib> Gnjurac: you can read about multiarch here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch and here: ttp://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO
[18:13] <Gnjurac> \\Mr_C\\:
[18:13] <Gnjurac> jrib: sorry was wc
[18:13] <Gnjurac> will try
[18:14] <pepper_chico> hello people, can anyone help me? I setup a lot of stuff and variables at my .bashrc, which is also sourced by .profile but, when launching applications from launcher or by double clicking a file with associated application it doesn't inherent the environment from .bashrc/.profile. I've partially set some variables at .xsessionrc but how could I use the same environment as setup by my .bashrc?
[18:14] <jrib> Gnjurac: I'm just giving you reading information; not sure what you are trying
[18:14] <microtux> Hi
[18:14] <jrib> pepper_chico: you need to log out and log back in
[18:14] <Gnjurac> jrib:  i want to install ia32lib so i can play doom3
[18:15] <jrib> Gnjurac: then enable i386 multi-arch (like you had before), run sudo apt-get update, and then install your package
[18:16] <pepper_chico> jrib, it does nothing, I know setting stuff at my .xsessionrc does, but I'd like to have the environment from .bashrc for all apps, and not setup another env at .xsessionrc
[18:16] <donnieblurr> I am in need of a linux genius
[18:16] <Nimble> Gnjurac, did you get that paste yet?
[18:16] <Gnjurac> jrib:  when i do sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 it passes ok but when i try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs it givs me error
[18:16] <pepper_chico> how to reuse my .bashrc for that
[18:16] <pepper_chico> ?
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> donnieblurr, Arn't we all state your problem for help.
[18:17] <microtux> I want to create a desktop application on ubuntu (with gui) that takes control of the machine from boot time and prevent users without authentication to close it or interact with any other part of the OS
[18:17] <microtux> any idea please ?
[18:17] <Awaken> Guest52045, also, the port it's on shouldnt matter too much in the greater picture, because all access normally would be coming from apps on the same machine, and would never leave the box. It only needs to be accessible on the network if you want the database on one box and the web server on another box. It's firewalled externally on mine.
[18:17] <pepper_chico> would turning .xsessiorc a symbolic link to my .bashrc work without problems?
[18:17] <pepper_chico> I think I will try it
[18:17] <donnieblurr> I have ubuntu 12.04 on a gateway all in one zx4800 and there are black bars on the left and right sides of the screen, please help
[18:18] <pepper_chico> if anyone knows the standard way for solving this, please share
[18:18] <OerHeks> microtux use the guest account :-)
[18:19] <Gnjurac> jrib: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:19] <Gnjurac>  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:19] <Gnjurac> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:19] <randomaussie> daftkins: seems to have worked.. but i'm not sure how to test it :\
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> donnieblurr, Could it just be the resolution?
[18:19] <Nimble> what happens when you install ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:19] <donnieblurr> i think it is
[18:19] <donnieblurr> but the only resolution available is 1024 x something
[18:19] <donnieblurr> and its like a 22 inch screen
[18:19] <donnieblurr> http://support.gateway.com/s/desktop/2009/gateway/zx/zx4800/ZX4800nv.shtml
[18:20] <donnieblurr> thats the computer
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> donnieblurr, Have you made sure you have the graphics drivers available installed?
[18:20] <Gnjurac> Nimble:  here you go http://pastebin.com/20h65JTS
[18:20] <Gnjurac> jrib: http://pastebin.com/20h65JTS
[18:20] <donnieblurr> well ive done the updates for the os but have no idea how to get those specific drivers =(
[18:21] <\\Mr_C\\> gnjurac?
[18:21] <Guest52045> Awaken: I have a point of sales system on the host machine and I understand that Mysql shouldn't share ports...again, I'm a newbee.
[18:21] <microtux> OerHeks, users must be prevented from running any other app (like firefox, vlc, ....)
[18:21] <bekks> donnieblurr: Which graphics adapter in detail do you have?
[18:21] <bekks> microtux: Thats called a "kiosk system".
[18:21] <Nimble> Gnjurac, so you added i386, did apt-get update, and then it did this?
[18:21] <donnieblurr> not 100% sure i believe its an Onboard Intel® GMA X4500HD
[18:22] <Awaken> Guest21482, if you're running in a VM with bridged networking they are effectively completely separated
[18:22] <bekks> donnieblurr: You have to be sure.
[18:22] <Awaken> wrong guest, lol
[18:23] <donnieblurr> i dont know how to be sure other than the specs on the gateway site for my model computer
[18:23] <CiscoNinja> i am running 13.04 with xfce , i have installed nxserver , nxnode, nxclient on this headless box. when i try to access it from a different box using nxclient the session will start up but with unity. i have tried to use '/usr/bin/gnmome-session --session=xfce but it comes up and say failed to load session xfce
[18:23] <donnieblurr> theres only one graphics card available for that model
[18:23] <bekks> donnieblurr: lspci -nn
[18:23] <bekks> CiscoNinja: Then use "/full/path/to/startxfce" instead.
[18:23] <Gnjurac> Nimble:  no this is error form trying to install ia32-libs-multiarch,,  sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 wokked ok no erros and i did sudo apt-get install update before i try to install ia32-libs and ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:23] <Nimble> oh ok
[18:24] <Nimble> welp jrib
[18:24] <Gnjurac> Nimble:  meybe i need to reboot pc
[18:24] <Nimble> I don't know why that would be the case
[18:24] <Nimble> but you could try it
[18:24] <donnieblurr> bekks: do i just run that in the terminal?
[18:24] <bekks> donnieblurr: Yes.
[18:24] <Gnjurac> idont know too but somthime it helps will try now
[18:25] <OerHeks> microtux, all KIOSK mode tutorials i know of, are build around firefox or chrome.
[18:25] <bekks> microtux: OerHeks: I fact, you can exchange that "core" application.
[18:26] <donnieblurr> bekks: what do i do now?
[18:26] <OerHeks> microtux, you might want to check out users and groups for guest permissions on firefox vlc
[18:26] <bekks> donnieblurr: You read the output of the command.
[18:26] <OerHeks> microtux, users and groups is not standard installed, AFAIK ( i am on Kubuntu)
[18:26] <Nimble> Gnjurac, does it work?
[18:27] <jrib> Gnjurac: don't reboot
[18:28] <CiscoNinja> bekks, '/usr/bin/xfce4-session thats the one and it works
[18:28] <jrib> Gnjurac: run "sudo apt-get update"
[18:28] <CiscoNinja> ^ thank you
[18:28] <bekks> CiscoNinja: Ah, ok.
[18:28] <Gnjurac> jrib:  i did and afeter thet i reboot
[18:28] <microtux> OerHeks, bekks, thank you guys, I'll check the suggested options ;)
[18:28] <microtux> thank you :)
[18:28] <jrib> Gnjurac: put it in your pastebin
[18:28] <donnieblurr> bekks: its a intel mobile 4 series
[18:29] <CiscoNinja> bekks, so what would be the propper way that i could 've asked to make you think ah, he is talking about his  'usr/bin/xfce4-session
[18:29] <sam113101> can I "bump" a askubuntu question?
[18:29] <Guest52045> Thanks...I think it will solve my problems Awakening
[18:29] <bekks> donnieblurr: Whats the full, exact output regarding your graphics hardware?
[18:29] <Gnjurac> ok w8
[18:29] <bekks> !pastebinit | donnieblurr
[18:29] <jrib> Gnjurac: why is your hostname "android-sdj34ska2221a" by the way.  What kind of install is this?
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  i doubt it.
[18:30] <bekks> CiscoNinja: I havent dealt with XFCE for years now - idk.
[18:30] <sam113101> dammit
[18:30] <bekks> sam113101: Dont swear, just ask your real question.
[18:30] <sam113101> why can't anybody answer
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  i find that many questions people ask on askubuntu.com have allready been answered if you search teh site enough
[18:30] <Gnjurac> jrib:  it is install so the owner of wifi think his phone is meybe connected to his ruter and not some idiot who is stealing internet
[18:30] <bekks> sam113101: Because you did not ask any usefull question.
[18:30] <jrib> sam113101: why don't you ask a support question in the irc support channel?
[18:31] <sam113101> I just want my gtk2 font to look the same as the gtk3 font
[18:31] <ikonia> Gnjurac: then your support here is done - we are not supporting theives
[18:31] <sam113101> jrib: I did
[18:31] <sam113101> multiple times
[18:31] <Gnjurac> ikonia: omg hahahhahaomg
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  cant say ive eer noticed the 2 being different
[18:31] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: http://i.imgur.com/RCzkXvV.png
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  #gnome guys may be able to help with gtk stuff like that.
[18:32] <Gnjurac> jrib:  hire is my pastbin http://pastebin.com/FR1RS1SN
[18:32] <ikonia> Gnjurac: please stop
[18:32] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: can you take a picture of gedit and firefox side to side?
[18:32] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  what
[18:32] <ikonia> Gnjurac: your support here is done
[18:32] <sam113101> like mine
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  im not sure firefox is actually using gtk3 or gtk2
[18:32] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  wtf
[18:32] <sam113101> I'm pretty sure it's gtk2
[18:32] <ikonia> Gnjurac: I've just told you why a few minutes ago
[18:32] <Gnjurac> ikonia: it is just  a joke
[18:33] <ikonia> Gnjurac: no, it wasn't
[18:33] <donnieblurr> bekks: so i just run lspci -nn and type !pastebinit?
[18:33] <sam113101> look at its scrollbar, it's not the slim orange bar
[18:33] <DJones> !wtf | Gnjurac
[18:33] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  omg
[18:33] <Gnjurac> jrib: hire is my pastbin http://pastebin.com/FR1RS1SN
[18:33] <bekks> donnieblurr: No. You type: lspci -nn|pastebinit
[18:33] <ikonia> Gnjurac: final warning - please stop
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> firefox has all sorts of font conversion/settings. so it may not be using the 'theme' font.
[18:33] <DJones> Gnjurac: Please stay within channel guidelines
[18:33] <DJones> !guidelines | Gnjurac
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> so it may be worth asking in #firefox also
[18:34] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: but thunderbird has the same weird font
[18:34] <sam113101> I think it's gtk2 apps, really
[18:34] <sam113101> or… I don't know
[18:34] <donnieblurr> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5919224/ here you go, thanks again
[18:34] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  why dont let me ask my questiong
[18:35] <CiscoNinja> bekks, cool, thank you
[18:35] <ikonia> Gnjurac: because you've just told us you've setup your machine to steel internet
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> its not really clear which fonts you are refering to either in that screen shot.
[18:35] <ikonia> Gnjurac: not going to reward theft with support
[18:35] <Elisha> srbin hahaha :D
[18:35] <bekks> donnieblurr: Your only option is using the ubuntu shipped intel graphics driver.
[18:35] <Gnjurac> ikonia:  omg and i download torrents omg i am evil i must not be help
[18:35] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: the tabs' font, the bookmarks bar font
[18:35] <donnieblurr> bekks: so im always going to have those bars on the side?
[18:36] <bekks> donnieblurr: Thats not what I just said.
[18:36] <sam113101> it might even be the same font, except the one on gedit is obviously bolder
[18:36] <donnieblurr> bekks: sorry im a noob with this linux stuff, what do I do to get rid of those bars?
[18:36] <bekks> donnieblurr: Install the intel graphics driver which is shipped by ubuntu.
[18:38] <donnieblurr> bekks: how do i do that?
[18:39] <dak0> Hello, how do I remove/hide - Suggested applications when searching in Unity?
[18:39] <bekks> donnieblurr: I dont knwo, I am not using Intel graphics adapters at all.
[18:40] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: here's an older screenshot of mine, picturing how firefox should look: http://i.imgur.com/9kWD8lV.png
[18:40] <naptic> hey
[18:40] <mr44> I am having a problem, and google doesn't help! How can I get unity to start on a headless tightvnc? I'm on 13.04, and I;m hoping someone can hook me up with a good xstartup file
[18:40] <mr44> all I get is the wallpaper and a pointer, no unity
[18:40] <naptic> excuse me, i have a pretty stupid question... how can i change the appearence in gnome classic shell? cant find a solution with google...
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  im not even sure firefox follows the theme fonts. I seem to recall it being differnt on other os's as well.  I notice this extension lets you change them - overriding any theme font settings --> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/theme-font-size-changer/
[18:41] <rypervenche> sam113101: I love how you've got porn in your bookmarks.
[18:41] <naptic> haha rypervenche
[18:42] <naptic> gotta be careful what you show :D
[18:42] <mr44> "biggas white girl...
[18:42] <sam113101> I removed it a while ago
[18:42] <ikonia> ok, enough please.
[18:42] <sam113101> the screenshot is old
[18:42] <mr44> whats the rest? must be good if its bookkmarked
[18:42] <IdleOne> Please move back to ubuntu support.
[18:43] <sam113101> Mostly things I intend to read later. Alright, back to ubuntu talk.
[18:43] <mr44> ok. anyone know how to get unity working on a headless 13.04 with tightvncserver?
[18:44] <dak0> Hello, how do I remove/hide - Suggested applications when searching in Unity?
[18:44] <naptic> hmmm... why not stick with 12.04?
[18:45] <sam113101> Guys, what gtk2 apps ship with ubuntu by default? I want to make sure it's really a gtk2 problem and not a firefox problem.
[18:45] <mr44> naptic: talking to me?
[18:45] <naptic> mr44: not exclusively ...
[18:47] <thetinyjesus> question guys, if i run apt-get upgrade, i had some updates, if i run the software updater gui, theres 62 mb of updates and if i run apt-get dist-upgrade theres 253mb of updates im confused
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  well the global menu fonts for firefox here. are the same as the rest of the theme for me. with global menu disabled. firefox has its own font setting for what fonts it uses in the menu, it can ignore the theme font.
[18:48] <thetinyjesus> does the software updater use a different update tool than apt-get update?
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  i was just playing with the extension i mentioned earlier and can set my FF fonts however i want for its gui bits. (not the web rendering fonts)
[18:49] <ikonia> thetinyjesus: man apt-get look at the differences between upgrade/dist-upgrade
[18:49] <thetinyjesus> ikonia, i know the differences.. but i cant understand how apt-get upgrade and the software updater have 100mb in updates difference
[18:50] <ikonia> thetinyjesus: sorry, I'm confused, if you knew the difference, why did you mention it like you where surprised
[18:50] <jrib> thetinyjesus: "update" just refreshes package information, "upgrade" upgrades packages to their latest version, "dist-upgrade" upgrades packages to their latest version and allows for packages to change dependencies (and then installs those).  You usually want to do a "dist-upgrade" (this is what the gui does) as here are some packages, most notably your kernel, that won't get upgraded otherwise
[18:50] <dak0> Hello, how do I remove/hide - Suggested applications when searching in Unity?
[18:51] <naptic> jrib: so whats the point in just updating?
[18:51] <thetinyjesus> ikonia, because im surprised theres a difference between apt-get upgrade and the software updater gui
[18:51] <jrib> naptic: what do you mean by "just updating"?
[18:51] <reisio> dak0: does dpkg -l | grep -i unity spit out anything that sounds like it provides that functionality?
[18:52] <naptic> jrib: why would i want to apt-get update?
[18:52] <donnieblurr> can anyone tell me how i can get intel drivers for ubuntu 12.04???
[18:52] <dak0> reisio: Hmm you saying to try and findout if that works?
[18:52] <donnieblurr> please
[18:52] <jrib> naptic: so that your apt-get knows what's available on the servers NOW, not what was available last time you ran apt-get update
[18:52] <ikonia> donnieblurr: they are already there
[18:52] <thetinyjesus> jrib, so what is the difference between using the software updater gui and running apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> dak0:  the dash http://askubuntu.com/questions/271408/how-to-hide-unity-dash-more-suggestions-not-unity-lens-shopping
[18:52] <jrib> thetinyjesus: there shouldn't be one
[18:52] <reisio> dak0: I'm saying that command might spit out some package with a name so obvious as to be what you want (to remove)
[18:53] <donnieblurr> ikonia: I do not believe they are working properly on my pc
[18:53] <thetinyjesus> jrib, when i command line apt-get dist-upgrade its 253 mb of updates, software updater theres 63mb
[18:53] <naptic> jrib: so its just there, so i can upgrade the packages, and they are the newest?
[18:53] <mr44> I am having a problem, and google doesn't help! How can I get unity to start on a headless tightvnc? I'm on 13.04, and I;m hoping someone can hook me up with a good xstartup file
[18:53] <ikonia> donnieblurr: ok, that's  a different issue
[18:53] <mr44> all I get is the wallpaper and a pointer, no unity
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> donnieblurr, Have you run a update upgrade
[18:53] <donnieblurr> ikonia: i get black bars on the side of my screen
[18:53] <dak0> reisio, Dr_Willis: thanks.
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  launch your vncserver as a user from /etc/rc.local would be one wau
[18:54] <ikonia> donnieblurr: that suggests either your resolution is wrong, or your monitor definition is wrong
[18:54] <mr44> dr_willis: im sorry, im not sure how to do that
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  or set up a service to launch it on demand.
[18:54] <donnieblurr> wilee-nilee: What is that? I just installed updates today.
[18:54] <jrib> naptic: "update" refreshes the package lists.  apt-get queries these package lists when you ask it to install something (it doesn't go knock on the server asking what's available everytime)
[18:54] <donnieblurr> ikonia: how can i fix it?
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  look at /etc/rc.local   its a script that runs stuff at the end of the boot process
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  you would use the su command to launch what you want as a user from that script
[18:54] <ikonia> donnieblurr: I'd first look at the easy option and check what resolution my display was running out with ubuntu
[18:54] <donnieblurr> ikonia: when ubuntu spash screen comes up when the pc starts its fine, just when i log in and use it
[18:54] <naptic> jrib: ah, i see. thanks a lot, now i understand it :)
[18:54] <jrib> naptic: if you don't do update, then sometimes your apt-get will end up looking for a package that no longer exists on the server
[18:55] <naptic> i see
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=run+vncserver+at+boot
[18:55] <mr44> dr_willis: well, im able to start vncserver from ssh, im able to start gnome and connect to the desktop. i just dont get sidebars like with unity
[18:55] <donnieblurr> ikonis: ubuntu is the only os on that machine =( windows killed itself
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> donnieblurr, there is a softweae updater app, or in the terminal sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:55] <donnieblurr> ikonia: ubuntu is the only os on that machine =( windows killed itself
[18:55] <mr44> dr_willis: i dont want it to start at boot
[18:55] <donnieblurr> wilee-nilee: i will try it now
[18:55] <thetinyjesus> jrib, i first ran apt-get update & upgrade did like 19mb of updates rebooted
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  then its not clear what you asked.  if you are having issues with unity in vnc. its because unity wants a 3d enabled window manager/drivers. and vnc dosent have all those features. I find it best to use a VERY light window manager, or minimal desktop in vnc. such as lubuntu, or jwm
[18:56] <thetinyjesus> jrib, now all 3 upgrade dist-upgrade and software updater gui show different updates available
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> unity and vnc - have issues with each other for numerous reasons. and it would be real laggy i imagine.
[18:57] <thetinyjesus> i understand why upgrade / dist-upgrade are different but not sure why the gui shows something completely different than the other 2
[18:57] <jrib> thetinyjesus: well either apt-get and your gui are doing different things or they are telling you different things. One could, for example, be telling you the size of the packages you need to fetch and the other the installed size.  But I don't know offhand exactly what the gui does.  I'm reasonably sure it is equivalent to dist-upgrade however.
[18:57] <ikonia> thetinyjesus: why are you doing upgrade/dist-upgrade when you know they are different
[18:57] <reisio> thetinyjesus: because it can
[18:57] <mr44> dr_willis: does 13.04 have any other window managers installed by default, that I could add to xstartup?
[18:57] <ikonia> thetinyjesus: you said you understood they are different, so why are you still referencing them
[18:57] <thetinyjesus> ikonia, why are you attacking me? im simply asking why the gui doesnt match either upgrade or dist-upgrade i havent actually ran any of them
[18:57] <ikonia> thetinyjesus: I'm not attacking you
[18:57] <avallark> hello all :)
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  no idea.I always install a dozen + wm's and desktops on my normal desktop
[18:58] <ikonia> thetinyjesus: but you keep compareing apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade, I've asked you to check the differences, you said "I know the differences" yet you keep referencing them as "surprised" they are different
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  install jwm and test out vnc with it.. its about as minimal as you can get  :)
[18:58] <mr44> dr_willis: i only ask because I dont have a desktop and I dont know any of the package names!
[18:58] <avallark> i have a lenovo yoga with an amazing touchpad (in windows) but on ubuntu the touchpad is an extra-sensitive moody bitch of a hardware
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[18:58] <thetinyjesus> im not comparing the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade im comparing the GUI that doesnt match EITHER of the commands
[18:58] <avallark> has anyone tamed her?
[18:58] <ikonia> thetinyjesus: yes, but jrib has explained what the gui should do,
[18:59] <ikonia> avallark: you can drop the bad language, please
[18:59] <mr44> dr_willis: ill give it a try. I have to leave because I need to exit irssi to get to a cl
[18:59] <mr44> and that's why sik porn really does it for me
[18:59] <avallark> ikonia: apologies. but the touchpad is sensitive
[18:59] <thetinyjesus> and it all boils down to, am i going to mess my system up running apt-get upgrade, than using the gui,
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  you may want to learn screen/tmux :)
[18:59] <thetinyjesus> then
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> mr44:  so you wouldent have to
[18:59] <mr44> sikh porno
[18:59] <ikonia> avallark: that doesn't warrent your references
[18:59] <mr44> wrtong chan
[18:59] <avallark> ikonia: sorry !
[19:00] <donnieblurr> wilee-nilee: what now? it says 0 for everything
[19:00] <avallark> ikonia:i am just really annoyed, everytime i type the whole thing goes bonkers.. why doesnt the palm detect work ? any idea ?
[19:01] <avallark> anyone any help?
[19:01] <donnieblurr> Ubuntu will not give me the right resolution for my display!!! Help me PLEASE!!!
[19:01] <ikonia> donnieblurr: calm down
[19:01] <ikonia> donnieblurr: I've told you to verify the resolution it's currently running at
[19:01] <ikonia> donnieblurr: have you done that ?
[19:02] <donnieblurr> ikonia: how else can i check it if the only os on it is ubuntu?
[19:02] <ikonia> donnieblurr: check it from within ubuntu
[19:02] <donnieblurr> ikonia: im a noob, how do i do that?
[19:02] <ikonia> donnieblurr: I'd suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com getting a basic overview of how to use ubuntu
[19:03] <vee_> hey i just did a minimal install of ubuntu again, but it seems the grub boot loader installed on the usb instead of the hdd. someone once told me the command to install it on the other drive but i forgot it. help plox?
[19:03] <donnieblurr> oh wait
[19:03] <avallark> vee_: grub-install
[19:03] <avallark> grub-install <device>
[19:03] <donnieblurr> ikonia: i have the current resolution, its 1024 x 768
[19:03] <dak0> How complicated is process removing Windows, it's installed on another NTFS parition ?
[19:04] <ikonia> donnieblurr: is that the correct resolution for the monitor ?
[19:04] <donnieblurr> no
[19:04] <donnieblurr> ikonia: its too small
[19:04] <ikonia> donnieblurr: ok, so setting it correctly would be the way forward
[19:04] <donnieblurr> ikonia: and that is the max setting available though
[19:04] <avallark> donnieblurr: press the windows key, type "display" select display settings and then change resolution there
[19:05] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I partially fixed it
[19:05] <ikonia> donnieblurr: ok, so either your card is not supported correctly, or your monitor is giving out the wrong information of what it is capable of
[19:05] <avallark> donnieblurr: if that doesnt show you more resolutions, that means you do not have the drivers for your graphics card. Run "Additional Drivers" and let it fetch the drivers for you.
[19:05] <ikonia> avallark: it does not mean that at all
[19:05] <ikonia> avallark: he's using an intel card,
[19:06] <aswy> hy. este vreun roman pe aici
[19:06] <donnieblurr> during boot, the purple ubuntu screen fills the screen fine, just when it goes into the os it freaks out =(
[19:06] <avallark> ikonia: what i said is practically the same as what you did just now..
[19:06] <ikonia> avallark: no, it's not
[19:07] <ikonia> avallark: please show me where I tell him to get additional drivers, or that he's missing drivers ?
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> dak0:  deleteing windows? just delete its partions
[19:08] <vee_> grub-install wasn't the command. it would show the available disks to install the bootloader on, and you'd be able to select it
[19:08] <avallark> "card-is-not-supported-correctly" << what the fuck does this mean then? if it doesnt mean that he is missing drivers
[19:08] <dak0> Dr_Willis just shift-delete everything in 100 GB Volume, there is my windows installed?
[19:08] <donnieblurr> i ran additional drivers anyway, says no propietary drivers
[19:08] <ikonia> avallark: your language is unacceptable
[19:08] <dotnull> Does anyone have any advice for being able to select an airplay device as a sound output? I've tried installing xmms2-plugin-airplay but airplay still doesn't appear as a sound output option
[19:08] <ikonia> avallark: and it does not mean he's missing drivers
[19:09]  * avallark is getting annoyed
[19:09] <ikonia> avallark: then get a grip
[19:09]  * avallark whoops ikonia for her ignorance
[19:09] <isank_> guys a good download manager for ubuntu
[19:09] <Ampelbein> avallark: The intel drivers are open source, there are no proprietary drivers.
[19:09] <isank_> and xubuntu
[19:10] <isank_> ?????
[19:10] <donnieblurr> ok now is there anything else i can do?
[19:10] <tobe148> hello
[19:11] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Can you put the output of "xrandr" to paste.ubuntu.com?
[19:11] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: sure
[19:11] <ikonia> Ampelbein: thank you for a logical approach
[19:11] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: can you give me your .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf file please?
[19:12] <sam113101> (in your home folder)
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  i dont have that file. or a fontconfig dir
[19:12] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: really?
[19:13] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: just xrandr|pastebinit ?
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> ls -l ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
[19:13] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Yes
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> ls: cannot access /home/willis/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf: No such file o
[19:13] <sam113101> weird
[19:14] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5919363/ thanks again for the help
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> dak0:  deleteing the files  from your windows install will leave you with a big empty ntfs partion and take a long time .. why do you want that?
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> dak0:  when you can delet/remake/reformat the partion in mere moments via gparted
[19:15] <OerHeks> sam113101, did you install msttcorefonts? > "I noticed that after installing msttcorefonts things don't look quite as good in Firefox" >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts#Manual_Font_Smoothing
[19:16] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: ok, the external monitor is reporting it's maximum resolution as 1024x768. What kind of monitor is it?
[19:17] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: its native resolution is supposed to be 1600 x 900
[19:17] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: http://support.gateway.com/s/desktop/2009/gateway/zx/zx4800/ZX4800sp2.shtml thats the pc
[19:17] <dak0> Dr_Willis: how to do that ?
[19:17] <sam113101> I don't think I did
[19:18] <sam113101> brb
[19:18] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: ok, one second.
[19:18] <OerHeks> sam113101, it comes with restricted exta's
[19:18] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: thank you!
[19:18] <sam113101> but the problem appeared when I was still on OpenSUSE
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> dak0:  fire up gparted.. delete the partion. make a new linux one.
[19:21] <Aprel> hi is there some program like wget, that if my connection breaks at, say 50MB of a 200MB file download, it will reinitiate the connection and download from where it left off in the file?
[19:21] <ogzy> any reason why /etc/network/interfaces is not setting the network address and gatewway when the machine is rebooted, i am using 12.04
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> !gparted | dak0
[19:21] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5919379/ has 3 commands. Execute them one after the other, stop in case an error message comes up. If your screen shows the correct resolution after these commands, we make them permanent. If the screen shows nothing, you have to reboot. (The changes aren't persistent for now)
[19:22] <bekks> Aprel: why do you want something else than wget?
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> Aprel:  wget has a resume feature. it may have a retry feature. it seems to have more features then most people ever need
[19:22] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: will do now, thanks give me a moment
[19:22] <dak0> Dr_willis: thanks
[19:23] <Aprel> bekks, Dr_Willis: sorry, didn't know wget had that built in. Do you happen to know the switch? Doesn't seem to do it by default. I'll look at the man....
[19:23] <bekks> Aprel: wget -c
[19:23] <bekks> Aprel: Just restart the download
[19:24] <Aprel> bekks: Thank you! Does -c also auto restart a download when it breaks, or do I need another switch?
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> check 'man wget'
[19:25] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: same size =(
[19:25] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: ok.
[19:25] <jakimo> Just saw the Ubuntu Edge video, nice.
[19:25] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Do you actually have 2 monitors connected to your video card?
[19:25] <donnieblurr> no
[19:25] <bekks> Aprel: If it breaks, you have to restart it manually.
[19:25] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: ah.
[19:25] <donnieblurr> its an all in one machine
[19:26] <donnieblurr> =(
[19:26] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1600x900
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> jakimo, If you want more info try the #ubuntu-touch channel
[19:26] <jakimo> So I'd like to try Ubuntu on my Mac - how to install?
[19:26] <jakimo> Relatively pain-free?
[19:26] <jakimo> Is rEFIi the best way?
[19:26] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x900 - sorry for typo
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> !mac
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> jakimo, ^^^^^^^
[19:26] <jakimo> Thanks ubottu and wilee-nilee
[19:27] <jakimo> I'll cehck it out!
[19:27] <jakimo> =)
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> no prob good luck
[19:27] <jakimo> I'm curious, does Dropbox or Box work with Ubuntu?
[19:27] <jakimo> Can I dip into mac directories and drives?
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> jakimo, I use dropbox not sure on the other
[19:27] <jakimo> I guess I'll find out ^^^
[19:27] <jakimo> again thanks, off to the link
[19:28] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: I will marry you one day, its working.
[19:28] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: ok, nice. Now, this is not persistent (if you reboot it's gone). We have to make it automatic.
[19:28] <donnieblurr> ok so lets do it
[19:29] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: What are the current contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? (Put on pastebin)
[19:29] <donnieblurr> how do i check that?
[19:29] <donnieblurr> do a cd and then list?
[19:29] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[19:30] <bekks> pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:30] <Ampelbein> or that.
[19:30] <Ampelbein> Someday I will win the useless use of cat award of the year.
[19:30] <eos> hi guys! Why can I move files that have permission -r--r--r--
[19:30] <eos> ????
[19:31] <mirak> hello
[19:31] <bekks> eos: Because you dont have permission to write.
[19:31] <mirak> i would to have a script ran each time i plug my hard drive.
[19:31] <mirak> Is it possible ?
[19:32] <Ampelbein> eos: because "mv" doesn't need permission to write to the file, it performs operations on the directory.
[19:32] <bekks> mirak: Yes, using an udev rule.
[19:32] <bean> eos, why CAN you move it, or why CANT
[19:32] <eos> bekks: but I can also rm them!
[19:32] <bean> yep
[19:32] <Ampelbein> eos: Yes, rm also does act on the directory, not the file.
[19:32] <eos> bean: why I CAN .... I should not be allowed to
[19:32] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: it says unable to read mario@mario-PC:~$ pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf Unable to read from: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:32] <mirak> bekks, is there have a way to have this handled at user level and not root ?
[19:33] <bean> no, eos, having no write permissions just means you cant change the content of the file
[19:33] <bekks> eos: You should be allowed as long as you have permissions to do so on the directory.
[19:33] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: that's fine.
[19:33] <eos> Ampelbein: how do I protect precious files from being accidentally rewritten, and / or deleted?
[19:33] <bekks> mirak: Nope. You can run a script as specific user, in the udev rule.
[19:33] <bekks> eos: Create a backup.
[19:33] <eos> bekks: this is the backup ....
[19:34] <donnieblurr> lol
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> backup the backups ;)
[19:34] <Ampelbein> eos: You set the directory to -w
[19:34] <bekks> eos: Then you still have the original.
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> eos  you can make them hidden
[19:34] <bean> MonkeyDust, bad idea.
[19:34] <eos> Ampelbein: if i set the directory to -w, then I cnanot add anything to the directory
[19:34] <bean> could make the file immutable
[19:34] <bean> chattr +i
[19:34] <mirak> bekks, so what gnome uses to ask what to do when a device is pluggued ?
[19:34] <bean> i hate that though
[19:34] <bekks> eos: Because you need x on the directory to access it.
[19:35] <eos> Ampelbein: I just need to make sure that I do not not move, rewrite or remove existing files
[19:35] <Ampelbein> eos: Then set the sticky-bit on the directory so only owner can remove files.
[19:35] <bekks> mirak: I dont know. I am using unity, kde, and custom udev rules.
[19:35] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: how do i make it persistent again?
[19:35] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Just quickly checking how ubuntu does it.
[19:35] <donnieblurr> ok np
[19:35] <donnieblurr> thank you again
[19:35] <donnieblurr> soooooo much
[19:35] <eos> Ampelbein: no, I am the owner .... when an application is launched which may attempt to rmeove the file, I need to be sure that the application cannot do so
[19:36] <eos> bean: that sounds like a good idea
[19:36] <vee_> hey guys, just finished installing ubuntu minimal, but now the fans are going crazy
[19:36] <vee_> checked lm sensors and im at 47C
[19:36] <bean> eos, it's a gross hack though, the real solution is to just keep proper backups.
[19:36] <eos> bean: this is the backup!
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> offline the backup
[19:37] <bekks> eos: Then you still have a source system. Create the backup and put it into a shelf.
[19:37] <vee_> the fans never seem to turn off, even though the laptop is running very cool
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> redundant stack of external usb hard drives
[19:37] <eos> bean: it is an integral backup by mirror .... hence, I need to make sure that every time that the original is synced it cannot oevrwrite or delete even by mistake
[19:37] <RichardRaseley> How can I see the mapping to between physical network interfaces and interface names, e.g. "eth0"?
[19:38] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: ok, hopefully this still works in ubuntu and hasn't been patched out. Create a file named ".xprofile" in your home directory and put the "xrandr" comand from earlier in it.
[19:38] <bekks> eos: Either you want everything snced, or you want to keep different states.
[19:38] <eos> bekks: yes, and buy a hangar to store all the backups :D
[19:38] <bekks> eos: Did you ever heard of "backup policies"? :)
[19:38] <eos> bekks: you lost me there ....
[19:38] <donnieblurr> a text file
[19:38] <donnieblurr> ???
[19:39] <eos> bekks: ever heard of " people may have different needs from you or they would not be asking"?
[19:39] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Yes, a simple text file with "xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x900" in it.
[19:40] <jrib> !xconfig
[19:40] <bekks> eos: Thats my daily job. And some of even really dont know what they want "keep it, but mirror it" is a good example for that. :)
[19:40] <jrib> bad ubottu
[19:40] <mirak> bekks, ok ubuntu doesn't see my esata drive after power on of the drive
[19:40] <bekks> mirak: I dont have an eSATA drive.
[19:40] <mirak> ok
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> ive never seen an esata drive actually work. ;)
[19:41] <vee_> hey guys, my fans are going crazy on a fresh ubuntu install. how do i fix it?
[19:41] <mirak> that's weird, i am pretty sure it already worked like an usb external drive ...
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> but now i dont even have any esata drives any more.  they dident seem to catch on in popularity
[19:41] <jrib> Ampelbein, donnieblurr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution may be useful.  Also, other config options at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X may provide insight
[19:41] <bekks> mirak: Power it on, and plug it in before starting your box. See if that works.
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> vee_:  theres various fan control apps in the repos. not sure what ones you need
[19:42] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: what do i do? continue with what you told me? if so, do i do it in libreoffice writer and give it a .txt extension?
[19:42] <vee_> Dr_Willis, which would you prefer? i'm not too familiar with fan control stuff
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  use a basic text editor like vi or geany, or gedit. or nano
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  and it dosent need an extension
[19:42] <eos> bekks: people cannot give you a full context whenever they ask a question, I am sorry .... and I have administered a few Lx based servers .... as said if it was something that could be solved with the usual backup policies I would not even have come to the room to ask.
[19:42] <donnieblurr> ...never even heard of those
[19:42] <donnieblurr> lol
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> vee_:  no idea. i rarely have tofight with that stuff.
[19:42] <donnieblurr> im uber noob
[19:42] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: echo "xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x900" > ~/.xprofile
[19:42] <eos> bean: it looks like chattr may be the solution actually, thanks for pointing it out.
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  you DONT use a word processor as a 'text' editor. ;)
[19:42] <mirak> bekks, it's detected as a device, it's just not automatically mounted. I can mount it from Nautilus.
[19:43] <vee_> Dr_Willis my previous install of ubuntu didn't have this issue. very strange
[19:43] <bekks> mirak: So it works, actually.
[19:43] <donnieblurr> gotcha
[19:43] <smaug42_> Does anyone here know of any good resources for getting a Bluetooth keyboard to pair?  I've got an Acer Iconia W700. Ubuntu can see the keyboard as a BT device, but pairing fails. Sometimes I can get it to display the 6 digit generated key, but even when I enter that, it still fails to pair.  Tried Ubuntu 13.04. 13.10, and Kubuntu and and...
[19:43] <eos> bean: I hope it is supported by btrfs .... I am going out and testing it. Thanks!
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> vee_:  differnt kernels perhaps.  I never do minimal installs.
[19:43] <donnieblurr> so how do i run a text editor in terminal on basic ubuntu install???
[19:43] <mirak> bekks, yes but it doesn't automatically mount it, like a external usb drive, or usb pen.
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  i mentioned 'nano'
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  its about as basic as you can get
[19:44] <donnieblurr> just type nano then?
[19:44] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: echo "xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x900" > ~/.xprofile
[19:44] <mirak> bekks, it could be worse of course :)
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  try it and see? you could have allready found out
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> !nano
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  in nano shortcuts the ^ is meaning the control key.. ^h = ctrl-h
[19:45] <donnieblurr> i did !nano and event not found
[19:45] <donnieblurr> =(
[19:45] <donnieblurr> im sorry
[19:45] <donnieblurr> i wish i knew more
[19:45] <FloodBot1> donnieblurr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <donnieblurr> about linux
[19:45] <bekks> donnieblurr: BEcause thats not a command. "nano" would be the command.
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  because !stuff is not  a SHELL COMMAND you run..
[19:45] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: just "nano".
[19:46] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: but for now you can use: echo "xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x900" > ~/.xprofile
[19:46] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: That will create the file with the xrandr command in it. Use the command, reboot and see if it works.
[19:47] <donnieblurr> ok
[19:47] <donnieblurr> one moment
[19:47] <eos> bean: it seems to work, and it seems to be the lowest level solution .... do you know whether there are any intrinsic risks or problems with the approach?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> i dident think .xprofile got ran in addation to the normal X boot sequence.
[19:51] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: it reverted =(
[19:51] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: donnieblurr Maybe you are right. Damnit.
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> you can make a script in the autorun directory
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> thats normally an easier way
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> its weird that the xrandr command is needed at all
[19:52] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Just to make sure: The file is called ".xprofile" in your home directory?
[19:53] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: The card is reporting a second monitor with 1024x768 max res despite none connected. Do you have a better solution? Except hand-crafting a xorg.conf.
[19:53] <lonewulf85> is there any way to remove a nautilus extension?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> Ampelbein:  that is weird.. its reporting a ghost monitor.
[19:54] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: no there isnt one there
[19:54] <BrightNewFuture> I installed Ubuntu on my parents' computer Sunday and have been trying all week to get either the wired or wireless ethernet working with no success. (See https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/232886) The thing that seems to keep blocking me is that I try to modprobe a driver module or install a driver debian package, and then at some point it always hangs. I used strace, and every time they hang, they perfo
[19:54] <BrightNewFuture> rm 8 commands over and over. Here are 2 of those 8 that seem most relevant: [pid 16939] open("/sys/module/wl/initstate", O_RDONLY) = 3 ... [pid 16939] read(3, "coming\n", 4096) = 7.
[19:54] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: press "ctrl-h" . is it there now?
[19:54] <donnieblurr> no
[19:54] <donnieblurr> =(
[19:55] <thetinyjesus> hey im trying to remove help, and it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[19:55] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: ok. then you didn't create the file correctly.
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> thetinyjesus:  thats a meta-package - so it will get removed if you remove any of its parts
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> parts = packages it depends on
[19:55] <donnieblurr> i copied and pasted what you gave me
[19:55] <thetinyjesus> Dr_Willis, theres no way to remove these useless packages?
[19:56] <lonewulf85> Any one familiar with Bitdefender for Unices?
[19:56] <trism> thetinyjesus: nothing wrong with removing ubuntu-desktop, just remember to install it again before you upgrade to a new ubuntu
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> thetinyjesus:  huh? you remove them.. it breaks the dependencies for ubuntu-desktop which is JUST a meta-package.  its whole job is to make installing a group of packages easier.
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> thetinyjesus:  removeing ubuntu-desktop will NOT remove the whole desktop. (it wont really remove much of anything)
[19:56] <thetinyjesus> Dr_Willis, oh okay
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> meta-packages are a bit of a kludgy way to do things. but it works
[19:57] <thetinyjesus> Dr_Willis, will it prevent me from receiving updates that are important ?
[19:57] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Are you sure? if you did you should have a file called ".xprofile" in your /home/$YOURUSERNAME directory.
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> thetinyjesus:  it will JUST remove that meta package..  so it shouldent affect anything
[19:57] <donnieblurr> also my screen brightness and background image keep reverting to their default settings
[19:58] <thetinyjesus> Dr_Willis, okay cool
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> thetinyjesus:  removeing most anything installed by default will remove ubuntu-desktop
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> since it basically 'defines' whats installed by default
[19:58] <thetinyjesus> Dr_Willis, should i reinstall ubuntu-desktop? or will that reinstall help and etc
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> thetinyjesus:  thats its whole goal in life.. it WILL reinstall all the default packages if you reinstall it..
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, Bitdefender is limited by the kernels it does not move as fast as they are released.
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> install house -> pulls in the doors and walls and ceilings.. ;)
[19:59] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: its not there
[19:59] <BrightNewFuture> lonewulf85 how did you install the nautilus extension? If you used apt-get you should be able to do apt-get remove extension's_package_name. Or if you want to remove configuration files as well do apt-get --purge remove extension's_package_name
[19:59] <donnieblurr> but nothing is saving properly
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> remove door -> removes house.
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  what did you type EXACTLY?
[19:59] <donnieblurr> echo "xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x900" > ~/.xprofile
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  now do a 'cat ~/.xprofile'
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  you are doing this from a normal terminal window? not using anthing weird? ;)
[20:00] <donnieblurr> no just terminal
[20:01] <donnieblurr> the cat returned this 'mario@mario-PC:~$  cat ~/.xprofile xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x900'
[20:01] <thetinyjesus> Dr_Willis, last dumb question for now, online accounts (gnome-control-center) that doesn't link into ubuntu one and such does it?
[20:01] <QTPieMan> varunendra, hey hello hw r u?
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  so the file is in fact there.
[20:01] <BrightNewFuture> lonewulf85 if you used dpkg to install the nautilus extension, you can use dpkg -r extension_package_name
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  ls -al ~/.xprofile                      should show info about the file
[20:02] <lonewulf85> BrightNewFuture, I did it throw a download from a link that bitdefender support provided it opened in the software center. But my question is if I send the sudo apt-get purge nautilus-bitdefender and it runs then says that nautilus-bitdefender* will be removed is that going to be good enough?
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> thetinyjesus:  never noticed.  i use ubuntu one rarely.
[20:02] <joshu> anyone understand PAM and can help me figure out how to pass the username and password to the .desktop file Exec= ?
[20:02] <guzzlefry> 0.o
[20:03] <donnieblurr> this is what came out
[20:03] <donnieblurr> mario@mario-PC:~$ ls -al ~/.xprofile rw-rw-r- 1 mario mario 38 Jul 27 15:48 /home/mario/.xprofile mario@mario-PC:~$
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  so once again.. the file is there.
[20:03] <guzzlefry> donnieblurr: Are you trying to save the output of xrandr?
[20:03] <donnieblurr> ok dr_willis
[20:03] <BrightNewFuture> If you see this repeated indefinitely in an strace, how do you fix that, generally? [pid 16939] open("/sys/module/wl/initstate", O_RDONLY) = 3 ... [pid 16939] read(3, "coming\n", 4096) = 7
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  you may want to make a simple script that runs that command, you can then run when you need to.
[20:03] <donnieblurr> how do i ensure that these changes are persistent
[20:04] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: any other alternatives?
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  id make such a script and copy it to the ~/.config/autostart/ directory - it will then get ran at login
[20:04] <lonewulf85> something to the effect of http://pastebin.com/2pfeKYjE
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> you can also have lightdm run startup commands but thats a bit harder to do
[20:05] <donnieblurr> yea i dont know how to make a script for ubuntu
[20:05] <donnieblurr> nvm
[20:05] <donnieblurr> thanks anyway
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  you allready did make a script - just a few min ago
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  a text file with commands = a script
[20:05] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: put http://paste.ubuntu.com/5919509/ in a file in ~/.config/autostart directory.
[20:05] <guzzlefry> don't forget the shebang
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  its not rocket-surgery ;)
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> #!/bin/bash  -> tells the script whats supposed to run the script, then the commands to run follow.
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> after saveing that file to ~/.config/autostart/startxrandr
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> do a 'chmode +x ~/.config/autostart/startxrandr' to be sure its executable
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> then it SHOULD auto-run when you login
[20:07]  * Dr_Willis spelt chmod wrong. ;) or did i.
[20:07] <py_can> clear
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> do a 'chmod +x ~/.config/autostart/startxrandr' to be sure its executable
[20:08] <py_can> transfering data from a sata300 to sata600 disk goes with 25mbps.. is this normal? I was expecting faster on my ubuntu 13.04 server
[20:08] <py_can> sata is configured in AHCI..
[20:09] <py_can> 25mbps is like a little faster than usb speed
[20:09] <lonewulf85> py_can, I thought that usb speed was more like 250mbs?
[20:09] <py_can> is this ubuntu related or ?
[20:09] <py_can> lonewulf85: i never get above 20mb per second
[20:10] <bekks> py_can: Thats normal for USB2.
[20:10] <py_can> bekks: yeah, i figured
[20:10] <py_can> but not normal for sata300->sata600
[20:10] <donnieblurr> how do i save a nano file?
[20:10] <py_can> ctrl-w
[20:10] <py_can> o*
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> notice the help/shortcuts at the bottom of the nano window donnieblurr ?
[20:10] <lonewulf85> py_can< maybe it is just the 2.0 i use in my 3.0 soket never mind.
[20:10] <donnieblurr> im walking someone through this
[20:11] <py_can> donnieblurr, ctrl-o
[20:11] <donnieblurr> thank u
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> Write Out =   ^o    i think it says
[20:11] <py_can> was just wondering, is my problem OS related or
[20:11] <py_can> something in the bios
[20:11] <lonewulf85> py_can, I was also thinking of a usb thumb drive :)
[20:12] <danny1> Looking to hire a talented C ++ developer for a project that will benefit the public
[20:12] <py_can> no no, sata300 1TB to 2TB sata600
[20:12] <donnieblurr> do i write the file to ~/.config/autostart/startxrandr???
[20:12] <bazhang> !ot | danny1
[20:12] <donnieblurr> or just startxrandr
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> danny1:  this isent really the right place to advertise.
[20:12] <donnieblurr> then move it
[20:12] <donnieblurr> ?
[20:12] <danny1> Where should I advertise ?
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  if you write it there.. thats the right place for it to be
[20:12] <py_can> danny1: on the street, with a megaphone
[20:13] <py_can> oh wait you were already doing that
[20:13] <lonewulf85> py_can, the only setting in the bios that I can think of that would have an effect on speed is the AHCI setting for hard drives.
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  so where would you move it to? :) you could also copy it to your desktop  or home directory so you can run it  easier by hand
[20:13] <DJones> danny1: You've been warned about advertising before
[20:13] <allegin> hi
[20:14] <py_can> lonewulf85: Yeah, exactly. thats what i thought. It's on ahci atm..
[20:14] <py_can> so thats not the problem
[20:14] <lonewulf85> py_can, Do you have a USB 3.0 slot?
[20:15] <BrightNewFuture> lonewulf85 I'm far from an expert, but I think it will completely deactivate if not completely delete the extension. That's the impression I have from using it maybe 5 times myself and what the docs say if you type 'man apt-get' in Terminal.
[20:15] <py_can> lonewulf85: maybe, but i might not have an usb3.0 device
[20:16] <donnieblurr> is the autostart folder in there by default?
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  if not make it.
[20:16] <Ampelbein> py_can: You can do "hdparm -tT /dev/sda" (or the device you read from) to see it's read performance.
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> mkdir ~/.config/autostart
[20:16] <py_can> Ampelbein: thx
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr: $ ls -l .config/autostart/
[20:16] <py_can> Ampelbein: and if thats allright, it must be a caching/IO thing on the pc itself?
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  and see if its there.
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr: or more exactly       ls -l ~/.config/autostart/
[20:17] <Vivekananda> nick__: howdy
[20:17] <Vivekananda> nick__: I replied to you in the pm
[20:18] <donnieblurr> returned total 0
[20:18] <lonewulf85> py_can, Oh yeah then I have no idea sorry. have you tried lsusb that might help you by listing information about your devices and possibly ports.
[20:18] <Ampelbein> Ampelbein: It could be a problem with the linux kernel and your sata controller. I had to manually set libata.force=noncq,1.5G as kernel parameter or else my sata performance would be slow as hell.
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  so the dir is there.. and empty
[20:18] <donnieblurr> k
[20:18] <py_can> Ampelbein: ill keep that in mind
[20:19] <Ampelbein> py_can: note that it sets sata performance to half of what sata300 is capable.
[20:19] <Ampelbein> py_can: but with full sata300 speed I had silly speeds like 10 MB/sec.
[20:19] <lonewulf85> Amplbein, That is weird
[20:19] <Ampelbein> py_can: It will show in syslog though if there are problems encountered.
[20:20] <shahan> so in windows you can change a usb drive's policies and make it faster with file transferring , how do i do that in ubuntu?
[20:20] <reisio> shahan: why would it be slower
[20:20] <Awaken> it disables caching in windows, u can set it to not do that
[20:21] <Awaken> (but then you'd have to eject properly to flush the cache before you remove the usb drive)
[20:21] <shahan> reisio:  its at abotu 14md per second... would diabling caching make it faster?
[20:21] <Te3-BloodyIron> no matter how hard i try my crontab will not run the script i've set it up to run
[20:21] <shahan> i'm okay with ejecting
[20:21] <Te3-BloodyIron> the script is 755, and +x and in a location readable
[20:21] <Te3-BloodyIron> and i've tried a few syntax changes
[20:21] <shahan> *14mb per second
[20:21] <Te3-BloodyIron> i want it to run every 5 mins, but i can't get it running even every minute at all
[20:21] <donnieblurr> dr_willis: im rebooting the machine now, gonna see if it works.
[20:21] <Te3-BloodyIron> i've tried 0-59/1 * * * * or */1 or */5 and no luck
[20:21] <BrightNewFuture> If you see this repeated indefinitely in an strace, how do you fix that, generally? [pid 16939] open("/sys/module/wl/initstate", O_RDONLY) = 3 ... [pid 16939] read(3, "coming\n", 4096) = 7
[20:22] <py_can> Ampelbein: http://pastebin.com/vWE1rmBk
[20:22] <Te3-BloodyIron> any ideas?
[20:22] <Te3-BloodyIron> oh and of course restarting the cron service each time
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> Te3-BloodyIron  try sudo crontab -e
[20:22] <Te3-BloodyIron> that kicks me into vi, ew
[20:22] <Te3-BloodyIron> but ill try it
[20:22] <shahan> i also have an external hard drive , any way to make it... faster bin ubuntu?
[20:22] <shahan> *in
[20:23] <Te3-BloodyIron> oh it gave me a choice
[20:23] <lonewulf85> I am out TTYAL
[20:23] <reisio> shahan: what makes you think it's slow
[20:23] <Te3-BloodyIron> yeah the file it opened is the one i was editing previously
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  you did give the full path to the script?
[20:23] <reisio> rather, what makes you think Ubuntu isn't utilizing it as fast as it can already
[20:23] <py_can> shahan: this is not an external harddrive
[20:23] <BrightNewFuture> I installed Ubuntu on my parents' computer Sunday and have been trying all week to get either the wired or wireless ethernet working with no success. Any ideas would be greatly appreciate. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/232886
[20:23] <shahan> *inrei years, of using windows... :(
[20:23] <Te3-BloodyIron> yes i declared the full location to the script
[20:23] <donnieblurr> dr_willis: its not working
[20:23] <shahan> reisio:   years of using windows
[20:23] <Ampelbein> py_can: Do you get messages in the syslog when you copy files from drive to drive.
[20:24] <py_can> Ampelbein: ill checlk
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  open a terminal type ~/.config/autostart/startxrandr and see if that works
[20:24] <shahan> :(  .. :)   that last thing you said made me realize once again why i'm using ubuntu
[20:24] <reisio> shahan: well it's true Canonical is a for-profit company, but they'd be insane to introduce Microsoft style limitations, particularly when they aren't using them as incentives for paid solutions to undo them
[20:24] <shahan> sooo..  in summation, am i to understand that by default, ubuntu makes the most of flash drives and externals?
[20:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> Dr_Willis: syslog doesn't even seem to try executing it :/
[20:25] <donnieblurr> dr_willis: permission denied
[20:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> ahem, syslog reports nothing from cron related to it
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  you did make it executable like was mentioned earlier?
[20:25] <donnieblurr> nope
[20:25] <donnieblurr> i should do that
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  there ya go.. it pays to follow all directions
[20:25] <shahan> reisio: sooo..  in summation, am i to understand that by default, ubuntu makes the most of flash drives and externals?
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> you should do it.. if you want it to work ;P
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> do a 'chmod +x ~/.config/autostart/startxrandr' to be sure its executable
[20:26] <reisio> shahan: it would be best to assume such things when using any free Unix system, yes
[20:26] <Te3-BloodyIron> if it's not executable how do you expect it to execute? :P
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr: then       ls -l ~/.config/autostart/
[20:26] <reisio> shahan: until you have reason to believe otherwise
[20:26] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: What is your crontab entry?
[20:26] <py_can> Ampelbein: no errors in syslog
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  to be sure it IS in fact executable and there
[20:26] <py_can> avarage transfer at 23mb/s
[20:26] <reisio> free Unix systems are made almost entirely by enthusiasts, by people who want things to be done the best way they can be as frequently as possible
[20:26] <py_can> transfer avarage*
[20:27] <Te3-BloodyIron> Ampelbein: 0-59/1 * * * *  /opt/sysvol_rsync_todc1.sh
[20:27] <shahan> reisio:   :')
[20:27] <Te3-BloodyIron> i also tried */5 and */1
[20:27] <donnieblurr> chmode -x "file path" ?
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  3rd time now -->   do a 'chmod +x ~/.config/autostart/startxrandr' to be sure its executable
[20:27] <shahan> reisio:  that's beautiful, i'm new to this if you couldn't tell...  but man that brought a tear to my eye, and made me step and think how Windows has perverted my computer experience
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  -x would make it UNexecutable
[20:28] <donnieblurr> gotcha
[20:28] <reisio> shahan: yeah, it's worth knowing
[20:28] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: Is it a system crontab?
[20:28] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: Or a user specific crontab?
[20:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> uhh the root crontab
[20:29] <reisio> shahan: even the commercial distros, those you have to pay for, what you're actually paying for is at least 90% paid support, and not unlocking software restrictions
[20:29] <reisio> not that anybody sane uses those :p
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> ive never figured out what paid support actually does. ;)
[20:29] <Te3-BloodyIron> it means yuo can call them
[20:29] <Te3-BloodyIron> and get a SLA
[20:29] <Te3-BloodyIron> and I suspect even hold them accountable
[20:29] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: Have you tried setting a username?
[20:30] <shahan> reisio:  i didn't even know there were those hahah,  i'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu
[20:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> Amandil: the script has to run at root level due to the files it works with
[20:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> so, no, i haven't
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  accountable? :) that definatly dosent fit in with the 'support' we get at our factory.
[20:30] <reisio> shahan: they're less popular, because they're basically just for people addicted to paying for things
[20:30] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: * * * * * $USERNAME /command
[20:30] <shahan> reisio:  is there  a way to like...  add something else to my grub?  like triple boot another linux distro to mess around with?
[20:30] <reisio> shahan: yup
[20:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> Amandil: I haven't tried that, but my understanding is the root crontab would just inherently be ran as root anyways.
[20:30] <reisio> shahan: the Ubuntu way is detailed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom_Menu_Entries
[20:31] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: It should be, ye.s
[20:31] <Te3-BloodyIron> Dr_Willis: sounds like you need a better SLA?
[20:31] <shahan> reisio:  so probably just make another bootable usb with my desired distro eh?
[20:31] <Te3-BloodyIron> so $root or?
[20:31] <Te3-BloodyIron> do i leave it as $USERNAME
[20:31] <Te3-BloodyIron> ?
[20:31] <shahan> reisio: perfect, thank you
[20:31] <reisio> shahan: basically you install whatever OS you please, where you please
[20:31] <reisio> shahan: and then you cleanup GRUB stuff if necessary
[20:31] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: No, the actual username the script should be run under.
[20:31] <Te3-BloodyIron> okay but im asking about the syntax
[20:31] <reisio> shahan: it's useful to have in mind which OS's boot loader (for example, Ubuntu's GRUB) will be in charge of booting all the others
[20:31] <Te3-BloodyIron> do i include the dollar sign?
[20:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> $root
[20:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> ?
[20:32] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: no. * * * * * root /path/to/command
[20:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> alright
[20:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> let me try that
[20:32] <donnieblurr> dr_willis: doesnt work
[20:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> um
[20:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> wait
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  support for us - is the company that built the multi-million dollar cnc machine/drill/press/whatever helping trobuel shooting why its not working... Not   computer support figuring out why the audio is playing out the headphones instead of the speakers :)
[20:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> all of a sudden the script is running
[20:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> let me verify my findings here
[20:32] <FloodBot1> Te3-BloodyIron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <shahan> reisio:  any reccomendation on which one to keep?  currently using GRUB and it's ubuntu + ubuntu safe options and then windows 7
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  again, run script from the terminal. see if that works.
[20:33] <reisio> shahan: to keep out of?
[20:33] <reisio> shahan: Ubuntu, Windows 7, and?
[20:33] <Te3-BloodyIron> Dr_Willis: I know support can come in many forms, but it is shocking that support for a CNC does not include accountability, doesn't it shock you?
[20:33] <donnieblurr> it fixes the screen when it runs in the terminal
[20:33] <Te3-BloodyIron> hmm
[20:33] <shahan> reisio: no no i meant which boot loader, like i didn't even know there were others besides GRUB
[20:33] <Te3-BloodyIron> the only thing i did was crontab -e
[20:34] <FredInDshell> how to connect nexus 10 to ubuntu for file transfer. Any apps recommended? thanks
[20:34] <reisio> shahan: oh, there are but GRUB is the standard for all GNU/Linux systems
[20:34] <Te3-BloodyIron> does crontab -e initialize when furst ran?
[20:34] <reisio> shahan: what I mean was for multiple OS booting
[20:34] <Te3-BloodyIron> because that's the only thing i've done differently
[20:34] <reisio> shahan: Windows has its own boot loader, Ubuntu has its own (GRUB), and you mentioned wanting to install another
[20:34] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: How did you do it before?
[20:34] <donnieblurr> why doesnt this work out the box?
[20:34] <Te3-BloodyIron> well i manually made the file
[20:34] <reisio> shahan: ATM your system undoubtedly has Ubuntu's GRUB booting Windows' boot loader, optionally, which boots Windows
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  now to trouble shoot why the script is not running at login.
[20:34] <Te3-BloodyIron> nano /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root
[20:35] <shahan> reisio:  right, i mean also.. any reccomendation for a 2nd year CS college student looking to learn most languages, really not proficient in either, and what I want to end up doing is more graphical stuff.
[20:35] <Te3-BloodyIron> and then restart cron daemon
[20:35] <reisio> shahan: if you want to install another GNU/Linux distribution, you'd probably want to tell it to install GRUB to whatever its own partition that has /boot on it is, that way it won't interfere with your existing boot setup
[20:35] <shahan> reisio:  yup,
[20:35] <reisio> shahan: recommendation of... distro?
[20:35] <Ampelbein> Te3-BloodyIron: see, that's why you use the correct tool for the job ;-)
[20:35] <Te3-BloodyIron> shahan: I may get bitten here, but learning Java is not a bad thing.
[20:35] <BrightNewFuture> I installed Ubuntu on my parents' computer Sunday and have been trying all week to get either the wired or wireless ethernet working with no success. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/232886
[20:35]  * reisio bites Te3-BloodyIron 
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  first guess it its running befor X is ready. it should wait about 20 sec..   edit that ~/.config/autostart/startxrandr  and add 2 lines after the first #!/bin/sh  line.. (the following 2)
[20:35] <Te3-BloodyIron> Ampelbein: I will not have you badmmouth nano like  that! :P
[20:35] <Te3-BloodyIron> yeah
[20:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> i didnt expect crontab -e to also initialize it D:
[20:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> but i guess it makes sense
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:    notify-send  "Starting xrandr stuff in 20 sec"
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  sleep 20
[20:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> i dont know why that part is not documented, or so i've found
[20:36] <shahan> lol java has been what i;ve been learning last two years lol, i think we do C next at my college and than Android stuff
[20:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> Android is primarily java
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  you will then have like a 4 line script. whenit runs.. it will post a message, then wait 20 sec.. then do the command.
[20:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> Dr_Willis and Ampelbein thanks for your help :)
[20:37] <donnieblurr> what is wrong with the driver that it doesnt work normally?
[20:37] <donnieblurr> this has never happened to me before
[20:37] <shahan> i'm using Eclipse but i desperately want to learn to use Vim
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  sounds more to me like its a monitor/hardware issue. but i only got in on the tail end of the problem
[20:37] <Te3-BloodyIron> vim is like climbing a mountain
[20:37] <reisio> nah
[20:37] <reisio> vim doesn't take that look
[20:37] <shahan> reisio:  yeah i guess that distros question is an opion thing ey?
[20:37] <reisio> shahan: run 'vimtutor', you'll learn a lot in an hour
[20:37] <mouthwash> hi all. i just installed ubuntu 13.04, and the "startup applications" aren't in the settings menu. where do i find them, pls?
[20:37] <donnieblurr> when ubuntu loads up and the splash screen appears it fills the screen no problem
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> vim makes sence - once you get the idea of a modal  editor. :)
[20:37] <reisio> shahan: well, every GNU/Linux distro is roughly 90% the same code
[20:37] <zykotick9> reisio: +1 for vimtutor suggestion ;)
[20:38] <donnieblurr> but when the os loads it resizes down
[20:38] <reisio> shahan: they only differ, really, in how they approach package management, general philosophy, and their communities
[20:38] <shahan> reisio:  yeaaah i guess most of the variablility comes from the user's macros and customizations
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  if you want to start this problem from the total beginning go for it. others in here may have better ideas.
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  your USER can have setting files that change the monitors res.
[20:38] <reisio> shahan: so what you can do on or with one distro you can on or with another, though how you manage it may be more or less tedious depending on personal preferences and other factor
[20:38] <reisio> s
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  as a test case. make a new user. see if it works properly for them.
[20:39] <shahan> reisio: so why do say... some people use redHat because it's better for managinggg  like..  SSH and idk.. stuff?
[20:39] <donnieblurr> i just installed ubuntu 2 hours ago on it tho
[20:39] <reisio> shahan: no, people use Red Hat because they're addicted to paying for things :p
[20:39] <reisio> or more technically: because they would rather pay for support than learn things / have their own support team
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  if you want to PROVE its  not a user setting issue.. make a new user, see if the issue also affects them. 'sudo adduser testuser'   log out and back in as that testuser, and see if it works for them
[20:39] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Which ubuntu version is it btw?
[20:39] <shahan> reisio:  ooh i didnt know red hat was not "free to play" lol
[20:40] <mpa000> Or they use RH because their dang vps host insists on CentOS instead of Ubuntu server.
[20:40] <reisio> shahan: it was once :p
[20:40] <donnieblurr> 12.04
[20:40] <donnieblurr> all updates are on it
[20:40] <reisio> shahan: back in the day they went pay and made everyone angry :p http://☃.colobox.com/despair-linux/redhat.jpg
[20:40] <shahan> reisio:  dang what was that, like recently??  i though most VM softwares offer redhat for free, so are those older versions?
[20:40] <reisio> shahan: what they actually sell is binaries and support, however; since essentially all the source code is GPL or similarly licensed, they have to release all their development changes under the same license
[20:41] <reisio> which is why CentOS is 99.999999999% the same distro, only 100% gratis
[20:41] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Ah. bug 1156310 seems only fixed in raring.
[20:41] <reisio> shahan: no some time ago now :p
[20:41] <zykotick9> shahan: be sure not to confuse Fedora with RHEL (centos is a free RHEL clone)
[20:41] <shahan> zykotick9: ?
[20:41] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: That pretty much sounds like your issue.
[20:41] <reisio> Fedora is the testing version of Red Hat, you can use it for free because you're an unpaid beta tester for Red Hat, Inc. :p
[20:41] <donnieblurr> the display panel shows only one monitor detected
[20:42] <donnieblurr> and does not offer the proper resolution for my screen at all
[20:42] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: so what does sudo lspci | grep -i net say? bcm4401?
[20:42] <donnieblurr> the detection of multiple screens doesnt sound like my problem, as i would assume they would both pop up in the panel
[20:42] <shahan> y'know what... think i'll just stick to ubuntu for now... still too newby.  will certainly look at that vim tutorial
[20:42] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: xrandr show 2 displays...
[20:43] <BrightNewFuture> I'll check again, need to turn the machine on. bcm4401 is the wired ethernet.
[20:43] <shahan> so just 'vimtutor' in terminal?
[20:43] <reisio> shahan: yes
[20:43] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: I'll check again, need to turn the machine on. bcm4401 is the wired ethernet.
[20:43] <mpa000> Shahan:  I've used linux since the beginning of time and Ubuntu won me over, if that means anything.
[20:43] <donnieblurr> that is also my graphics card
[20:43] <shahan> thanks reisio !  and other people who answered me, 'preciate it,
[20:43] <donnieblurr> ok
[20:44] <donnieblurr> how do i fix this?
[20:44] <reisio> shahan: you can always change later if you feel like, it, it's no big deal
[20:44] <shahan> mpa000: 0.0   good to know
[20:44] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: ok
[20:44] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: Update to 13.04.
[20:44] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: the driver name is 'b44'
[20:44] <jhile> hello, i am trying to open magnet links with transmission using firefox, having trouble doing so. it asks me what i want to use as default program and i cannot choose/find transmisison
[20:44] <tlindsay> Can anybody help me with an installation question?
[20:44] <donnieblurr> but no lts =(
[20:44] <reisio> jhile: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[20:44] <reisio> tlindsay: yes
[20:44] <tlindsay> Thanks,
[20:45] <jhile> reisio, thanks
[20:45] <shahan> thanks guys have a good one
[20:45] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: if it's loaded as a module, then lsmod | grep -i b44 will show it
[20:45] <reisio> jhile: or, I should've said
[20:45] <Bauer> why are there some processes that pkill and killall is unable to kill? I own them, I see them as ps aux, but killing them is not working..  unless of course I do kill -9 pid
[20:46] <donnieblurr> ampelbein: is this my only option?
[20:46] <tlindsay> I'm at the partition step, and I just want to make sure that I'm not about to overwrite my primary OS's partition. That partition doesn't have a K flag, but it's marked as "Do Not Use".
[20:46] <reisio> jhile: you can run dpkg -L transmission | grep -i bin to find it :)
[20:46] <Ampelbein> donnieblurr: One second, trying something
[20:46] <tlindsay> I'm pretty sure this means I'll be okay, I just want to make sure.
[20:46] <reisio> tlindsay: K?
[20:46] <jhile> i tried doing dpkg -L transmission didnt know the rest of the code
[20:46] <reisio> jhile: grep, very useful
[20:46] <reisio> jhile: and pipes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_%28Unix%29
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  if its a clean new install. id just install 13.04 and be done with it..
[20:47] <Suq> anyone have that laptop suspend problem that freezes the computer?
[20:47] <reisio> Suq: you?
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  unless you have a real need for lts
[20:47] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: lsmod | grep ... shows b44 with size 31365 and used by 0
[20:47] <donnieblurr> but in a few months id have to install the new os
[20:47] <zykotick9> reisio: ;) +1 for "grep, very useful" i couldn't agree more
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  woop-de doo.
[20:47] <Suq> reisio: yeah i do, on 13.04
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  takes me like 20 min to do a new install.
[20:47] <jhile> i did try dpkg -L transmission | grep -i bin btw, it just goes to a new line in terminal
[20:47] <tlindsay> I'm actually installing CrunchBang (a Debian distro). I tried their IRC, but it's dead.
[20:47] <Suq> reisio: Do you know a fix?
[20:48] <donnieblurr> with new install will it save settings from previous version
[20:48] <jhile> (problem is fixed) but would like to know about the grep
[20:48] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: okay, so your wired should technically work; maybe networkmanager is confused about something
[20:48] <tlindsay> The K flag is supposed to keep the partitioner from formatting that partition.
[20:48] <reisio> Suq: nope
[20:48] <reisio> tlindsay: are you talking about gparted?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  you can upgrade to the next release.. or make a seperate /home/ partition and  it will keep your user files seperate if you do a clean install
[20:48] <donnieblurr> thank you
[20:48] <donnieblurr> i appreciate your time and help
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> donnieblurr:  reinstalling ubuntu is not a 'week long ordeal' that windows is.
[20:49] <reisio> tlindsay: this? http://i.stack.imgur.com/VcMAu.png
[20:49] <reisio> tlindsay: if it doesn't have an assignment on the right, /, /home, swap, /boot, etc., then it will probably not be touched
[20:50] <zykotick9> tlindsay: k is keep, and f is format - but cruchbang isn't supported in #ubuntu, you could try ##linux if you wanted...
[20:51] <Guest78529> hi guys
[20:51] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: sudo lspci ... shows 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02) and 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[20:52] <tigranes> Hrm. When searching about Linux on MacBooks, I see references to "BIOS compatibility mode". Does anyknow know how to check if I'm running in BIOS compatibility mode or in EFI mode?
[20:52] <tlindsay> Okay, sorry. Thanks for the help!
[20:52] <auronandace> !b43 | BrightNewFuture
[20:52] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: okay, so your wired should technically work; maybe networkmanager is confused about something
[20:52] <reisio> tigranes: your grub.cfg should make that obvious, I believe
[20:54] <tigranes> reisio: Thanks, will check there.
[20:54] <mpa000> Tlindsay, while you are here asking about that, I figure we'd be remiss if someone didn't say, Why not install Ubuntu instead?  ; )
[20:54] <BrightNewFuture> ubottu please see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/232886#comment-5
[20:55] <BrightNewFuture> reisio do you have an idea how I can begin troubleshooting that?
[20:55] <darksite> who is already wakeup
[20:55] <BrightNewFuture> reisio do you have an idea how I can begin troubleshooting that? (networkmanager is confused about something)
[20:56] <joshu> is there a way to store and access secrets in the gnome keyring from the command line only?
[20:56] <BrightNewFuture> auronandace would you please elaborate? I don't know what !b43 means
[20:56] <jrib> joshu: yes
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> BrightNewFuture:  read the url ubottu  sent you?
[20:56] <joshu> jrib can you please explain and is this a suitable way to store secrets that can then be used in scripts securely?
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> BrightNewFuture:  !stuff are bot triggers for FAQ's
[20:57] <BrightNewFuture> Dr_Willis: Yes I did. See please see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/232886#comment-5
[20:57] <jrib> joshu: this is how I store my passwords that mutt uses
[20:57] <BrightNewFuture> Dr_Willis: bot triggers for FAQ's: oh, thank you. :)
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> BrightNewFuture:  or bash shell history features. :) but thats a totally differnt use of !
[20:58] <joshu> jrib this might solve the problem I've been having all day trying to use PAM. Can you please explain what I need and how I can 1) store a username and password and 2) access these two things for use in a string
[20:59] <joshu> jrib not string but in a command such as xfreerdp <username> <password>
[20:59]  * zykotick9 mentions dist-upgrade (probably the least understood apt command), then runs away giggling...
[21:00] <BrightNewFuture> Dr_Willis: that's pretty cool, thank you for explaining it to me. :)
[21:00] <jrib> joshu: I told you, for this you should ask #bash
[21:00] <zykotick9> post above - sorry, wrong channel.  my bad.
[21:00] <jrib> joshu: in my case I am using keyring (and was using gnomekeyring) modules for python
[21:00] <joshu> jrib so gnome keyring how to use that I should ask on #bash?
[21:01] <joshu> I don't get that when it's an ubuntu thing
[21:01] <jrib> joshu: no, you should ask the question you just asked: "not string but in a command such as xfreerdp <username> <password>"
[21:01] <jrib> joshu: what's an ubuntu thing?
[21:02] <joshu> jrib ok fine but how to store and retrieve items from the keyring is ubuntu related and that's what I'm hoping to learn how to do from someone here
[21:02] <jrib> joshu: I use the keyring (and used to use gnomekeyring) modules for python
[21:02] <Xionkana> Hey guys, in my auth.log file, I have an IP that constantly attempts connections to my server. How can I block him outright?
[21:04] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: is it installed? dpkg -l | grep -i network | grep -i manager
[21:04] <zykotick9> Xionkana: if you mean ssh, i'd suggest you look into fail2ban
[21:04] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: if it's a laptop, is there a hardware network disable switch?
[21:04] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: what the heck? The wired ethernet is working. This has happened to me a few times, where it seems to come on at random. The only thing I did was lsmod, sudo lspci, and then open "network tools" from the unity search thingy.
[21:04] <Xionkana> zykotick9: Cheers!
[21:05] <zykotick9> !info fail2ban
[21:05] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: mmm
[21:05] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: but when I restart it always gets disabled again, and I can't reproduce enabling it.
[21:05] <BrightNewFuture> Maybe it will work this time...
[21:05] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: it might be time to check: the cable-computer connection, the cable, the cable-wall port connection, and your ISP service in general
[21:06] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: eth1 was not listed in ifconfig last time I checked (before booting up this time), then it was suddenly listed in "network tools", then listed in ifconfig. Then I plugged in the ethernet cable.
[21:07] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: there is an LED for wifi and a little blue radio tower symbol on the keyboard, but pushing fn+radio_tower_button doesn't make the wifi LED light up.
[21:08] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: well, I'd get wired working first
[21:09] <Guest15593> hi
[21:09] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: I agree. For the dpkg command earlier, it prints libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager, network-manager, network-manager-gnome, network-manager-pptp, and network-manager-pptp-gnome
[21:10] <reisio> Guest15593: hi, run this: /nick somethingElsePlease
[21:10] <reisio> s/run/send/
[21:11] <Guest15593> any one with log4j experiance?
[21:11] <ikonia> yes, I have log4j
[21:11] <ikonia> oh, he's gone
[21:12] <ikonia> leo_: I've used log4j,
[21:12] <smgordon> umm,,, just  wondering. is there a sticker i can get to put over the Windows button on my keyboard?
[21:12] <leo_> hi
[21:12] <smgordon>   is there a linux/ubuntu keyboard?
[21:12] <leo_> channel for java?
[21:12] <jrib> smgordon: probably, you could also just buy some ubuntu keys
[21:12] <leo_> related quires
[21:12] <leo_> ?
[21:12] <ikonia> leo_: ##java - I suggest asking in #freenode how to search for channels though
[21:12] <leo_> thanks
[21:13] <smgordon> ubuntu keys?
[21:13] <bekks> smgordon: Nope.
[21:13] <smgordon> lol
[21:13] <ikonia> smgordon: what's the question ? as "ubuntu keys?" is not a question
[21:13] <reisio> smgordon: there're "Linux keybaords" for sure
[21:14] <smgordon> jrib said get some ubuntu keys hench my reply was ubuntu keys?
[21:14] <reisio> http://images.google.com/images?q=ubuntu%20keys%20windows%20key&sout=1
[21:15] <jrib> smgordon: lots of places will let you put whatever you want on keys. I've also seen keys being sold already with the ubuntu logo (i.e. no custom designing by you).
[21:15] <monkeyjuice> http://zareason.com/shop/Ubuntu-Keyboard.html
[21:15] <reisio> keyboards should have straight fronts
[21:16] <smgordon> I just want to get rid of the windows logo  or get a linux keyboard
[21:16] <jrib> smgordon: https://www.system76.com/community/stickers here are some free stickers you can get from system 76
[21:16] <smgordon> didn't know there was such a thing ..   Cool!
[21:16] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: I rebooted and b44 does not appear in lsmod. :/
[21:16] <reisio> there's ubuntu, there's linux (tux/penguin icons), there's anything you want
[21:17] <reisio> BrightNewFuture: networkmanager might be loading it on demand
[21:18] <jrib> smgordon: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 some official canonical ones too I guess
[21:19] <jrib> smgordon: http://www.keyboardco.com/product/ubuntu-logo-windows-keys-2-keycaps-for-cherry-mx-switches.asp may not fit your keyboard depending on what type of keyboard you have.  And like I said earlier, there are some places that will let you print whatever you want on your keys and it's not too expensive
[21:19] <chalcedony`> i hope someone is here to help! my husband can't gete his computer started. he keeps getting errors
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> chalcedony`  the exact errors can help to find a solution
[21:20] <chalcedony`> it goes to "what would you like to do? and then can't see the keyboard or mouse to make choices
[21:20] <mirak> bekks, seems the issue is that esata drive is not set as removable in /sys/block/sdc/removable
[21:20] <chalcedony`> MonkeyDust, thank you for responding
[21:20] <reisio> chalcedony`: and if you hit your monitor's auto config button?
[21:20] <mirak> it doesn't make sens for esata, even sata wichis hotplugable
[21:21] <chalcedony`> he's trying to start up a new hard drive with 12.04 - he has a 12.04 cd, can't get the newer one till this runs.
[21:21] <reisio> jrib: snap dude, you just accidentally learned me of a new majestouch keyboard, thanks
[21:22] <jrib> reisio: I love my filco
[21:22] <Xionkana> zykotick9: I started fail2ban 2 minutes ago and I've already banned 2 ip addresses. Thanks a lot. :)
[21:22] <jrib> Xionkana: wait until you ban yourself :P
[21:23] <Awaken> surely he setup the whitelist :P
[21:23] <chalcedony`> "verifying DMI Pool Data.. and then the eroror
[21:23] <Xionkana> I definitely did setup a whitelist.
[21:23] <Xionkana> :D
[21:23] <blah> lol
[21:23] <reisio> what I get for not keeping up to date with geekhack, I guess
[21:23] <Xionkana> I'm new to vps hosting, but not stupid. :P
[21:23] <chalcedony`> "The system is running in low graphics mode.."
[21:23] <reisio> jrib: you have a minila?
[21:24] <jrib> reisio: oh, no.  Just majestouch (we should move to -offtopic)
[21:24] <chalcedony`> you can call me stupid if you want to, just tell me what to do?
[21:24] <BrightNewFuture> I think this computer is possessed. o.O
[21:24] <mojo706> whats the channel for Ubuntu community members?
[21:25] <chalcedony`> mojo706, you mean like ops?
[21:25] <BrightNewFuture> reisio: Thanks for all your help. I'll give it another try later.
[21:25] <chalcedony`> good luck BrightNewFuture
[21:25] <mojo706> no I mean the one thats open to everyone
[21:25] <mpa000> Chalc:  Do you know what version?   There was a bug in xdiagnose that sounds like your problem.
[21:25] <chalcedony`> mpa000, 12.04?
[21:28] <reisio> jrib: in some ways nice, but in more ways I think my choc mini is better :D
[21:28] <nabblet> !paste
[21:29] <mpa000> Chalcedony:  What you are describing sounds like this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdiagnose/+bug/914038
[21:29] <BrightNewFuture> chalcedony`: thank you :)
[21:30] <chalcedony`> mpa000, looking ty
[21:31] <mojo706> #ubuntu-community-team
[21:31] <mojo706> I found it
[21:32] <nabblet> hi. i was browsing the web (firefox) and suddenly everthing slowed down adn froze. after a while i got back to the login screen. this is my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/5919723/ any ideas?
[21:32] <chalcedony`> mojo706, it is, how do we get around it?
[21:33] <mojo706> get around what?
[21:33] <chalcedony`> you got the right bug
[21:33] <chalcedony`> mojo706, we are on a slow dsl connection here, what can be done about it?
[21:34] <mojo706> My connection's acting up too
[21:34] <chalcedony`> mojo706, i feel for you
[21:36] <mojo706> chalcedony, there's a meeting at 3 a.m over on community will you be there? just to help ops pass time
[21:36] <smgordon> I am pleased with my experience with Ubuntu so far( 2days)  I was worried about my nvidia graphics card would not work. works great with no issues.... lets all stand up and give a big round of applause to those responsible for this great OS
[21:36] <chalcedony`> mojo706, i would love to
[21:36] <daftykins> smgordon: nah that's ok
[21:36] <daftykins> smgordon: we don't want their egos inflating
[21:37] <mojo706> smgordon, *clapping*
[21:37] <mojo706> welcome to the community
[21:37] <smgordon> lol , well considering I was toying with  redhat about 20 years ago and got fully frustrated,
[21:38] <chalcedony`> heh
[21:38] <chalcedony`> things have -hopefully- evolved some in 20 years
[21:38] <mojo706> Redhat is now quite expensive :)
[21:38] <chalcedony`> hehe that too!
[21:39] <mpa000> RH was the best and worst thing to happen to Linux in the early days.
[21:40] <destiny> a
[21:40] <StephenS> idk
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> mpa000, A personal opinion and offtopic at best.
[21:40] <mojtaba> Hi, is there something like pastebin for the images?
[21:40] <mpa000> Yeah.  Realised it when I said it.
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  imagebin
[21:41] <Rallias> What's the last ubuntu version to use a 2.6.* kernel?
[21:41] <pvl1> whats the default gnome theme
[21:41] <p0wn3d> does anyone know of a "recent" good resource for updating to the latest kernel
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> Rallias  10.04 for server
[21:41] <Rallias> damn it..
[21:42] <Rallias> How would I go about forcing my MegaRAID raid card to work in 13.04?
[21:42] <jrib> !kernel | p0wn3d
[21:42] <mirak> is it better to do a clean install than an upgrade ?
[21:42] <jrib> mirak: better in what sense?
[21:43] <mirak> jrib, stability
[21:43] <mirak> jrib, rotten
[21:43] <jrib> mirak: what?
[21:43] <mirak> rot
[21:43] <mirak> rotted stuffs
[21:43] <mojo706> mirak, upgrading from what to what?
[21:43] <mirak> i don't know it's unclear if all applications handle well their upgrade
[21:44] <mirak> like quantal to raring
[21:44] <jrib> mirak: if you want a fresh start, I guess a fresh install is better.  If you want your configuration and installed packages to persist, then I would say upgrade is better
[21:44] <mojo706> mirak, what jrib said
[21:44] <reisio> it's better to do a clean install if it'll take longer to do an upgrade
[21:44] <reisio> that should be your only criterion
[21:44] <mirak> you state the obvious here
[21:44] <reisio> some people have other reasons
[21:45] <p0wn3d> I have been using the .deb packages to upgrade to the latest kernel but I'm trying to automate the process and just want to look at my options
[21:45] <reisio> if your distro cannot be upgraded reliably, that should not be a factor, as you should find another distro
[21:45] <reisio> the only factor should be time
[21:45] <mojo706> mirak,  a good fast connection too
[21:46] <mirak> i meant jrib and mojo706 are stating somethin obvious. I was just wondering how much trust you can have in upgrading, in comparison of a clen install. Just to be sure it's worth reinstall clean or not
[21:46] <jrib> mirak: have backups in case anything goes wrong.  Nothing should go wrong (but you should have backups anyway)
[21:46] <smgordon> I would think that a clean instal would be best when installing any OS.
[21:46] <mirak> ok, i have very fast connection
[21:47] <mirak> jrib, yes i use always have two partitions, to be able to go back, because there is often things that i can't fix right away.
[21:47] <mojo706> mirak, remember to back up as jrib says. Do you have a back utility?
[21:47] <mirak> I use lvm, also, I do a snapshot
[21:47] <mojo706> then you should be good to upgrade
[21:47] <mirak> mojo706, yes, data are backuped on external drive.
[21:47] <mirak> ok thanks
[21:48] <smgordon> I haven't done a back up of a few decades. i don't put much that is important in any computer that I don't all ready have in hard copy , most of the important stuf is on a 320gb usb drive
[21:48] <pvl1> anyone know what the default gnome theme is
[21:48] <mirak> in fact I do a snapshot, copy to a  new volume, then reboot and upgrade from there.
[21:48] <reisio> pvl1: adwaita?
[21:48] <mojo706> pvl1, thats also good
[21:50] <mojo706> I have a problem with my connection. I can only use xchat, I cannot browse. what could be the problem?
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> !details | mojo706
[21:51] <smgordon> Firewallsettings?
[21:51] <pvl1> reisio: i think i meant metacity
[21:51] <reisio> pvl1: metacity is a window manager
[21:51] <reisio> pvl1: for GNOME 2
[21:51] <pepper_chico> anyone can help on this please http://askubuntu.com/q/325434/152691
[21:52] <pvl1> reisio: i know, but what is its default theme? i want to remove themes i wont be using
[21:52] <mojo706> wilee-nilee, I'm on 12.04 and the problem just begun about an hour ago. I cannot visit any website
[21:52] <mirak> mojo706, in fact I have a software raid1 with lvm on top,
[21:52] <reisio> pvl1: adwaita AIUI
[21:52] <reisio> if you remove it you can just put it back
[21:52] <pvl1> reisio: alrightt thanks
[21:52] <mirak> I am not sure that's really usefull, since now I backup on another drive. I should go for a raid0 with that haha
[21:53] <mojo706> mirak, I'm lucky I have Dell Backup Utility on 12.04
[21:53] <chalcedony`> mojo706, did you try something like lynx - a text based browser?
[21:53] <mpa000> mojo706:  Have you tested that dns works?
[21:53] <chalcedony`> mpa000, indeed
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> mojo706, Hard to say with the 20 question game, not really an area I can help with most likely.
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> without*
[21:54] <mojo706> mpa000, how? how do I test the dns
[21:54] <mojo706> wilee-nilee, what game?
[21:55] <hammond> is it true that ubuntu was hacked?
[21:55] <hammond> ubuntu forum
[21:55] <zloog> hammond, http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html
[21:56] <rypervenche> hammond: Yep.
[21:56] <nannes> hammond: 100% true
[21:56] <hammond> does someone actually got my password? Were they stored in clear  text?
[21:56] <hammond> lloll
[21:56] <nannes> hammond: of course not
[21:56] <hammond> were they hashed atleast.
[21:56] <hammond> oh
[21:56] <nannes> but hashes can be cracked, once obtained
[21:57] <mojo706> nannes, takes too much time ti crack 1.8 million
[21:57] <smgordon> mojo706: have you tried to reset your browser? ( firefox)  is the issue with just http or https websites?
[21:58] <mpa000> mojo706: I think he was referring to this game, of troubleshooting,  not "technically" an ubuntu question, but:   easiest first way to test dns is to see if you can ping some well known site by its name.   If you can't, then try pinging some site by its IP.  If you can, then you know that at least part of your problem is dns resolution.
[21:58] <hammond> if you have a hard to crack password they will never crack it
[21:58] <nannes> mojo706: it depends on many things. Technique used, available hardware resources and password quality
[21:59] <mojo706> mpa000, ok thanks
[21:59] <mojo706> smgordon, I don't use proxy
[22:00] <mouthwash> could anybody help me to get my browser to play embedded mp3 or wma? all plugins and java and flash are installed...
[22:00] <Awaken> ping google.com - loads of big sites are blocking ping nowadays :/
[22:00] <Awaken> which i think should be illegal! So irritating lol
[22:00] <Ampelbein> pepper_chico: I believe ~/.pam_environment is the correct place for session wide environment variables. (requires a relog to put in effect).
[22:01] <mojo706> mpa000, when I ping Google. I get 4% packet loss
[22:02] <mpa000> ubuntu.com will return a ping ; )
[22:02] <pepper_chico> Ampelbein, can I just source .bashrc there?, as I asked, I don't really want to duplicate environment variable setting throughout two or more files
[22:02] <Ampelbein> pepper_chico: pam_environment is not a script, it's strictly for setting $VARIABLE=$VALUE. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide_environment_variables
[22:03] <mojo706> whoa the more I ping the more %packet  loss I get.
[22:05] <pepper_chico> well, things were already complicated with just .bashrc/.bash_profile/.profile and its differences from platform to platform, now comes .pam_environment, .xsessionrc and what not
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> mojo706, 20 questions is the game, what I mean is having to ask users a ton of questions to get just basic info that should be provided upfront, and easy to know with some research. ;)
[22:06] <ubuntucrashes> hello all
[22:06] <smgordon> hello
[22:06] <nannes> mojo706: I get 0% for google.com
[22:07] <ubuntucrashes> my ubuntu 12.04 lts freezes very freuently
[22:07] <mojo706> nannes, :(
[22:07] <nannes> ubuntucrashes: throw unity to the trash. Switch to another DE
[22:07] <nannes> Everything will be fine, trust me
[22:07] <ubuntucrashes> what is de
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> not to mention the uneeded play by play by play that jsut makes the channel busier and hard to follow a users issues. mojo706
[22:07] <ubuntucrashes> how do i do that
[22:07] <nannes> unity is the root of 0% of ubuntu problems
[22:07] <nannes> lol I wanted to write 60%
[22:08] <nannes> but the 6 went away
[22:08] <nannes> :D
[22:08] <reisio> heh
[22:08] <mojo706> ubuntucrashes, more details
[22:08] <mojo706> wilee-nilee, ok
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> !details | ubuntucrashes
[22:08] <ubuntucrashes> 12.04 lts
[22:08] <nannes> great
[22:08] <ubuntucrashes> web browsing and freezes
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> !enter | ubuntucrashes
[22:09] <nannes> ubuntucrashes: so it happens only when browsing?
[22:09] <nannes> *while
[22:09] <ubuntucrashes> often yes
[22:09] <ubuntucrashes> how do i disable unity
[22:09] <pepper_chico> I don't find unity that bad...
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> ubuntucrashes, To get help you need details and a compact set of posts in reality, or you will be lost generally.
[22:10] <nannes> what are the others situations it freezes, except while browsing the web?
[22:10] <pepper_chico> actually, I have nothing to blame
[22:10] <ubuntucrashes> im beginner ubuntu user
[22:10] <ubuntucrashes> how do i disable unity
[22:10] <ikonia> ubuntucrashes: what do you want to use in it's place ?
[22:11] <mojo706> how do you know unity is the problem ubuntucrashes
[22:11] <ikonia> ubuntucrashes: it seems odd to start using an OS that has something you don't want as it's core
[22:11] <ubuntucrashes> nannes stated it
[22:11] <ikonia> nannes: also makes unwise advice like adding 386 support to dpkg - so I'd advise to find out for certain
[22:11] <mojo706> lol
[22:11] <mojo706> BBL
[22:11] <ubuntucrashes> i want a solution please im annoyed by the freuent freezes and im not interested to move to mint
[22:12] <ubuntucrashes> ubuntu was great only now itss been like this
[22:13] <daftykins> ubuntucrashes: consider using kubuntu/xubuntu instead?
[22:14] <nannes> ikonia: about i386... the user asked me that info, I just answered his question
[22:14] <ikonia> nannes: can you join us in #ubuntu-ops please
[22:14] <anti7> anybody got any tips on trying warty on virtualbox?
[22:14] <ikonia> anti7: warty is dead
[22:15] <anti7> i kno... the question persists though
[22:15] <ikonia> anti7: no it doesn't as warty is not supported as it's end of life
[22:15] <smgordon> ubuntucrashes:  how long have you been using ubuntu and when  it started freezing  what were you doing?
[22:18] <smgordon> must be nap time, got real quiet
[22:18] <chalcedony`> heh
[22:18] <chalcedony`> where can i download 13.04 from?
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> chalcedony`, ubuntu its on the web
[22:19] <chalcedony`> wilee-nilee, yeah i figured
[22:19] <chalcedony`> ty
[22:19] <akki> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[22:20] <smgordon> yep both 12.04 and 13.04  in one spot .
[22:22] <mojtaba> Hi, I was in thunderbird and suddenly the display become black and showed a message, Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempt to kill init! and after I restarted my computer it gave me I/O error, but it asked me to press f to fix the problem. I almost many times restarted my computer, but the problem still remains.
[22:22] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[22:23] <mojtaba> I cannot do almost anything, e.g. I printed screen, but it did not allow me to save the file
[22:23] <mojtaba> Also I can not for example run chrom or any other program
[22:23] <mojtaba> Please help
[22:23] <mojtaba> I am new to ubuntu
[22:25] <mojtaba> Hi, I was in thunderbird and suddenly the display become black and showed a message, Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempt to kill init! and after I restarted my computer it gave me I/O error, but it asked me to press f to fix the problem. I almost many times restarted my computer, but the problem still remains. Does anybody know what should I do? I cannot do almost anything, e.g. I printed screen, but it did not allow me to save the file. Also I can not for 
[22:26] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: Could be a hardware related failure. You can check in /var/log/syslog for errors.
[22:26] <holstein> mojtaba: seems like a hardware failure to me
[22:26] <ekaj> Does ubuntu, by default, come with an HDD testing utility to check for bad sectors, etc?
[22:26] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: holstein: What command should I run?
[22:26] <holstein> mojtaba: i would get a diagnostic live CD, and test the hard drive and memory
[22:26] <Ampelbein> ekaj: Yes, "badblocks"
[22:26] <ekaj> command line util?
[22:27] <Ampelbein> Yes
[22:27] <ekaj> I'd google it but explorer.exe crashed on windows so I need to reboot in a minute
[22:27] <ekaj> What all can it check for?
[22:27] <holstein> ekaj: you can always start with the live CD, and add what you need... xubuntu or lubuntu if you feel your machine cant handle unity
[22:28] <ekaj> nah, it can handle it, I just wasn't sure if there was a built in utility
[22:28] <Ampelbein> ekaj: Well, it checks for... bad blocks on the hd.
[22:28] <ekaj> ahh now my broswer is working, I'll google it
[22:28] <mojtaba> holstein: Could you please tell me what should I do exactly?? (I am a newbie)
[22:28] <holstein> mojtaba: confirm that the hard drive is OK
[22:29] <holstein> mojtaba: i would use a live CD
[22:29] <mojtaba> holstein: From where can I get the disk?
[22:30] <holstein> mojtaba: the installer disk you used to install ubuntu is a live CD you can use for such cases
[22:30] <mojtaba> holstein: What command should I run with that CD?
[22:30] <holstein> mojtaba: there is a hard drive utility.. and a memory testing utility at boot
[22:31] <mojtaba> holstein: I have access to them when I restart my computer, I run it and it did not return any error
[22:31] <holstein> mojtaba: you have access to them?
[22:31] <mojtaba> holstein: Is there any command which I could pastebinit the result?
[22:32] <mojtaba> holstein: When I restart my computer, it is listed below running ubuntu option
[22:32] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: You mentioned that there is a prompt to press "f" to fix the problem. Can you write exactly what the prompt was?
[22:32] <holstein> mojtaba: if it were my system, i would run a smart hard drive test that would take an hour or more.. and the results would be obvious
[22:33] <ekaj> my god damn linux box had a kernel panic ffs
[22:33] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: That command was when I chose to boot in the ubuntu
[22:33] <holstein> *then* i would test/fix the filesystem..
[22:33] <holstein> !language | ekaj
[22:33] <daftykins> ekaj: now now..
[22:33] <ekaj> I was in the middle of a 20gb transfer ='( lol
[22:33] <daftykins> only 20GB? :)
[22:34] <ekaj> Shush =p that was only two of the folders
[22:34] <mojtaba> Ampelbein: holstein: Isn't there any command which shows the log of the system? :(
[22:34] <holstein> mojtaba: 18:26 < Ampelbein> mojtaba: Could be a hardware related failure. You can check in /var/log/syslog for errors.
[22:34] <ekaj> I see at the top of the screen there was a kenel bug in /build/buildd/linux3.2.0/fs/buffer.c3237! and an invalid opcode (0000) [#1] SMP then it says CPU 1..
[22:34] <holstein> mojtaba: assuming the hard drive is funcitoning, or was, and logs were written
[22:35] <mojtaba> holstein: should I run the command nano /var/log/syslog?
[22:36] <usr13> mojtaba: Try cat /var/log/syslog  (or less)
[22:36] <holstein> mojtaba: you likely need to use a live CD. but yes.. that is "nano".. a text editor.. opening the file syslog.. which is, as you asked, a potential log of the problem
[22:37] <usr13> mojtaba: You can watch it real-time:   tail -f /var/log/syslog   #Just FYI
[22:37] <mojtaba> holstein: I run tail and it shows these: Jul 27 18:07:32 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [  482.959439] ata1.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
[22:37] <mojtaba> Jul 27 18:07:32 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [  482.959446] ata1.00: cmd 61/10:10:e0:b8:e6/00:00:2a:00:00/40 tag 2 ncq 8192 out
[22:37] <mojtaba> Jul 27 18:07:32 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [  482.959446]          res 41/40:02:3f:d3:83/00:00:32:00:00/42 Emask 0x9 (media error)
[22:37] <mojtaba> Jul 27 18:07:32 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [  482.959449] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
[22:37] <mojtaba> Jul 27 18:07:32 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [  482.959452] ata1.00: error: { UNC }
[22:37] <mojtaba> Jul 27 18:07:32 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [  482.959455] ata1.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
[22:37] <mojtaba> Jul 27 18:07:32 mojtaba-Studio-1555 kernel: [  482.959461] ata1.00: cmd 61/08:18:58:45:2c/00:00:33:00:00/40 tag 3 ncq 4096 out
[22:37] <FloodBot1> mojtaba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:39] <holstein> mojtaba: i test and confirm.... if my machine doesnt boot, i use a live CD, andtest the memory.. then i bypass the installed operating system and hard drive by booting the live CD. i then test the hard drive.. then, the filesystem
[22:39] <mojtaba> usr13: Could you please take look at results.
[22:39] <holstein> mojtaba: you will need to pastebin the results for a volunteer to take a look at them
[22:39] <mojtaba> holstein: The problem is that, I do not have that live CD and also I can not run chrom to download it again. :(
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> if you got network connection, you can use wget to get the iso file
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> or get a tiny disrto you can test/check with like tinycorelinux
[22:40] <holstein> mojtaba: in the future, keep in mind, *all* hard drives fail.. having a live CD around is just a good troubleshooting step
[22:41] <mojtaba> holstein: Ok. The problem is that, I can not pastebin the result, it says: "bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system"
[22:42] <holstein> mojtaba: i would expect many issues with the filesystem/hard drive
[22:42] <mojtaba> holstein: Isn't there any command or utility which could search and fix the problems?
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> !fsck | mojtaba
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  if you are lucky you acan boot to recovery/rescue mode and fsck the filesystem
[22:43] <share> Ubuntu Edge is doomed :'(
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> unless the hd is actually failing in a way that may make it worse.
[22:43] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: 1.) You can use "sudo mount -o remount,rw /" to get write access to your hard drive back. 2.) The errors you quoted above indicate a broken HD.
[22:43] <holstein> mojtaba: sure.. from *any* live CD.. such as the one you used to install, that you stated you have *no* way of obtaining
[22:44] <holstein> !ot | share
[22:44] <share> ty
[22:45] <mojtaba> holstein: I can ask my friend to download the live CD for me, what should I do after booting with that CD? could you please let me know. I want to write down your comments
[22:45] <Gnea> I have an ipod and Ubuntu 12.04 (yes, I will be upgrading to 13.04 soon, but I don't really have the time right now) and gtkpod installed.  I can transfer mp3 files to the ipod, but cannot transfer m4a or m4b files.  How can I get the files on there that the player actually supports?
[22:46] <holstein> mojtaba: you can try the recovery terminal from the install, as suggested
[22:46] <holstein> mojtaba: you really just need to relax, and try an option.. you have quite a few
[22:47] <mojtaba> holstein: You mean when I reboot the computer boot to that CD and it will give me some options through a GUI to diagnose the hardware?
[22:48] <holstein> mojtaba: 18:43 < Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  if you are lucky you acan boot to recovery/rescue mode and fsck the filesystem
[22:48] <mojtaba> what is the exact command for the fsck?
[22:48] <holstein> mojtaba: i cant keep re-pasting posts for you here.. we need you to focus, and read all volunteer suggestions
[22:49] <holstein> !fsck > mojtaba
[22:49] <Ampelbein> mojtaba: 1.) You can use "sudo mount -o remount,rw /" to get write access to your hard drive back. 2.) The errors you quoted above indicate a broken HD.
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> fsck /dev/sda1  (if sda1 is the filesystem)
[22:50] <mojtaba> Sorry all, I am a little nervous.
[22:51] <weblife> I am making a bash file to build a source with the 'make' command and use as many cores '-j' as possible when building it.  Anyone know what I can do to auto fill this?
[22:51] <holstein> weblife: i would try a programming channel
[22:51] <jrib> weblife: auto fill what?
[22:52] <cmck193> i'm getting an error when installing vmware player.  cannot find header files
[22:52] <jrib> !vmware | cmck193
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> !headers
[22:53] <weblife> @jrib the cores number..   Such as 'make -j7
[22:54] <jrib> weblife: what about it?
[22:54] <weblife> or 'make -j5'
[22:55] <weblife> just trying to figure out if there is anyway I could auto fill it like 'make -j{$core-value}
[22:55] <mirak> is there a way to mount core.img ?
[22:55] <jrib> weblife: auto-fill it with what?  The number of cores?
[22:55] <jrib> that you have
[22:55] <mirak> the file for grub
[22:55] <Ampelbein> weblife: As far as I know, "make -j" (without number) will use as many cores as possible.
[22:55] <weblife> @jrib yes
[22:55] <weblife> oh snap.  Thanks!
[22:55] <Ampelbein> weblife: Or rather, start as many jobs as possible in parallel.
[22:56] <mirak> I am not sure if i need to regenerate this file or not
[22:56] <cmck193> ubottu: I keep getting an error gcc and kernel headers must be installed.  I was told that the usb pass-through didn't work with vmware in repositories
[22:56] <jrib> cmck193: did you read the link ubottu gave you?
[22:56] <cmck193> jrib: reading over it now
[22:57] <BoomerBile> anyone know some good dvd authoring software?
[22:57] <cmck193> no help, trying to install vmware player on ubuntu, not ubuntu in vmware player
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  it depends on what you need it to do.  i use DeVeDe
[22:57] <jrib> cmck193: that's the first thing the link talks about.
[22:57] <BoomerBile> devede just sat there saying "creating"
[22:58] <BoomerBile> sat at 0% for 30 minutes
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  i use it all the time with very few issues. run it from terminal. look for errors
[22:58] <sam113101> !test
[22:58] <holstein> cmck193: consider virtualbox, since its in the repos
[22:58] <BoomerBile> Dr Willis i'll give it another go
[22:59] <BoomerBile> Dr Willis is there any way to add 42 videos quickly?
[22:59] <cmck193> holstein: does virtualbox allow for usb passthrough? and usb 3.0 support?
[22:59] <joshu> is there some way of enabling the display brightness keys prior to logging in?
[22:59] <holstein> cmck193: i have no usb 3.0 to confim that
[22:59] <Ampelbein> cmck193: Yes for usb passthrough.
[23:00] <holstein> 3.0 should pass through just like 2.0 does
[23:00] <cmck193> I will have to try it out.  Need to install windows 7 to use programs for work to program nurse call systems, fire alarm, and cctv's
[23:00] <Ampelbein> cmck193: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/8873 says no on the usb3.0 support.
[23:01] <Rallias> Is there a measured performance difference between EFI boot and legacy boot in anything other than boot times?
[23:01] <cmck193> well, i think I see the problem. I don't have the ia32-libs installed.  installing now and trying again
[23:02] <Ampelbein> cmck193: You shouldn't have to install them in precise or later.
[23:03] <Ampelbein> cmck193: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[23:03] <cmck193> according to the link above, it's needed for AMD x86_64 Ubuntu OS
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  drag/drop them to  the panel i think. i tend to use it to just make a single video dvd.
[23:03] <holstein> cmck193: for what purpose? running 32bit vmware in 64bit ubuntu? why not run 64?
[23:04] <Ampelbein> cmck193: That page seems severely outdated.
[23:04] <cmck193> i installed the x86_64 version
[23:04] <holstein> why not sudo apt-get install virtualbox and see if virtualization is going ot work for you
[23:04] <BoomerBile> Dr Willis: thanks that worked... should have thought of that myself
[23:05] <Ampelbein> cmck193: What was the exact error you got when installing vmware?
[23:05] <cmck193> I need to locate the Kernel Headers 3.8.0-19-generic
[23:06] <cmck193> never seen that message on anyother linux machine
[23:06] <holstein> cmck193: did you install the headers?
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  devede is written in python i recall. you can alter the code rather easially.  i altered it to change some defaults ages ago
[23:06] <holstein> !headers > cmck193
[23:06] <Ampelbein> cmck193: And do you have those installed? What does "dpkg -l | grep linux" say?
[23:07] <jrib> cmck193: if you don't need vmware specifically, vbox is probably going to be easier for you to install.  You've been told numerous times now how to install the headers and it's also on the wiki page.
[23:07] <BoomerBile> Dr Willis, yeah i know some python... cool... dvdstyler is crashing randomly, no good... and tovid is being rather picky and is totally in need of re-organization... too many options scattered in too many places
[23:07] <cmck193> jrib: installing vbox now
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  i got issues with all sorts of the video apps crashing with me on newer releases sadly. avidemux is the latest one i notice constantly dieing.
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> i rarely make dvd's any more.
[23:09] <BoomerBile> yeah me either
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> devede - i tend to use to make a video dvd for the grandkids.. auto play Dora, play it over and over and over for ever.. ;P
[23:09] <BoomerBile> i'm putting the entire doctor who season one on one dvd, tired of 4 episodes per dvd, 42 episodes (season one in it's entirety) is only 3.4 gigs
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> I dont even have a dvd player around any more. ;) other then the pc.
[23:10] <BoomerBile> i don't watch them myself on dvd
[23:10] <BoomerBile> my kids do
[23:10] <BoomerBile> i prefer mkv on the pc
[23:11] <leiah> [3d6] 4+1+1 = 6
[23:12] <BoomerBile> bah!
[23:13] <chaostracker> http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1j6bwn/ubuntu_one_os_one_interface_all_devices/ upvote the story plz. that's all.
[23:13]  * Dr_Willis downvotes it for spammage
[23:13] <BoomerBile> Dr Willis, too many videos for the dvd, please remove some or choose a different dvd size.. even as mkv and mp4 they are only 3.4 gigs
[23:13] <holstein> BoomerBile: the files might be.. but what are you making? a video DVD?
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  never really tried putting more then a few on a dvd. You did click that resize button
[23:14] <BoomerBile> i should be able to put 4.3 on a dvd and still have menus
[23:14] <Rallias> chaostracker, This is a technical support room, not an emotional help room. We will not spread your social media message.
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  'adjust disk ussage' ?
[23:14] <BoomerBile> dr willis that's what i'm pushing to get that error
[23:14] <holstein> BoomerBile: just because you have 4.3 GB's of data, doesnt mean that it will take up that space on a DVD
[23:14] <BoomerBile> says 175%
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  how many videos total?
[23:14] <BoomerBile> 42
[23:14] <arisdario> Hello Guys
[23:14] <arisdario> im online ?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> never tried that many.  so no idea on that
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> arisdario:  what if we say no?
[23:15] <arisdario> :), because im fighting with irc
[23:15] <holstein> BoomerBile: think of it this way.. if you have 10 mp3's.. they would be maybe 50mb's.. but if you burned an audio CD, they would be recoded to .wav, and be bigger than the CD can hold
[23:15] <holstein> BoomerBile: that is what you are doing
[23:15] <arisdario> guys im in because i want to install ubuntu on ProBook 4530S
[23:15] <holstein> BoomerBile: you have a bunch of videos that will only be able to fit about 4 at a time on an actual video DVD
[23:16] <arisdario> the last time my laptop was almost burning, because i thing there are some problems with fan and video graphics
[23:16] <holstein> arisdario: try it live
[23:16] <arisdario> what do mean with live ?
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  im suprised you can fit 42 videos into a single dvd and have it look decent
[23:16] <holstein> arisdario: try the live CD before you install
[23:17] <BoomerBile> well, they are only 80 meg on average
[23:17] <holstein> Dr_Willis: you can fit them into the size of the DVD.. but not a video DVD
[23:17] <arisdario> no, is better to allocate 50gb and install and work with it alone
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  and they get converted to dvd video format.. that will make them much bigger
[23:17] <BoomerBile> devede is telling me that this 99.4 meg video will be (estimated) 109 meg on dvd so that's not much difference
[23:17] <arisdario> but for example if i install it the fan is working non-stop
[23:17] <holstein> BoomerBile: you can burn that as data, but not a video DVD
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  these are the original dr who? or the new eps?
[23:18] <BoomerBile> hmm
[23:18] <BoomerBile> not sure
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> are they b/w or color? ;)
[23:18] <BoomerBile> i encoded them to mkv and they are b/w
[23:18] <cmck193> exit
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> so they are the old series where each ep was like 15 min?
[23:18] <BoomerBile> 24-30
[23:18] <ekaj> So, I copied about 30GB of stuff to a USB, went to safely eject it, and it's been "writing the data to <usb> for 10 minutes or so again. Is that normal?
[23:18] <chaostracker> Rallias: so can you direct me to the emotional[!] help room
[23:18] <arisdario> i have some hope to work with ubuntu ?
[23:19] <holstein> arisdario: work with it live and see how it works on your hardware
[23:19] <BoomerBile> maybe i'll go down to 21 episodes on a dvd
[23:19] <BoomerBile> half on each
[23:19] <cmck193> where would the Kernel Headers 3.8.0-19-generic located?
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  split them based on story since each story-arc will be like 6 eps if i rember right
[23:19] <arisdario> Oki @holstein i will try it now on live with usb
[23:20] <daftykins> cmck193: are you still wanting to know how to install them?
[23:20] <BoomerBile> dr willis, 2 to 4 eps each
[23:20] <BoomerBile> some have 6
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> ive not watched the original dr who in years. - some of the shows were.. well.. quiet bad. ;P
[23:20] <BoomerBile> yeah some of them are lost
[23:20] <BoomerBile> only static pictures and scrolling text to tell you what's going on, but the sound is all there
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> i would watch them on my pc at like 130% original speed.. to keep me interested..  smplayer has that feature i recall.
[23:20] <KromiX> hi all.. can anyone help me with an smb issue? Im browsing to it via Browse Network -> PC Name (Windows8) -> Share... I can see all the shares I have set up, but any share I click it says 'Unable to access location - Failed to mount Windows share: invalid argument'.............. Same invalid argument error in XBMC (OpenELEC).... I can however see and use shares properly on a WINDOWS machine...
[23:20] <KromiX> so I have to blame windows, not sure where to look?
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  ;) im suprised no one has redone them in cgi/animation
[23:21] <arisdario> wich version is better to have ?
[23:21] <cmck193> i do.  i installed them and they say installed, when i try to start vmplayer it wants me to direct it to them.  i put  /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic in and it says the C header files were not found
[23:21] <Rallias> KromiX, Windows 8 has a protocol for SMB that is incompatible with ubuntu in my experimentation.
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> arisdario:  i would test with the normal/latest ubuntu live dvd.
[23:21] <arisdario> Ubuntu 13.04 will be supported for 9 months....
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> arisdario:  so?
[23:22] <arisdario> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS is a long-term support release....
[23:22] <KromiX> Rallias hmm, maybe so, but everything was working 100% on ubuntu and OpenELEC on Windows 8, but I reformatted this same machine this morning and wa-la this issue...
[23:22] <arisdario> nothing bad, just i want to know which one will be stable
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> arisdario:  and you can upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04 and so forth
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> arisdario:  you want stable, even if it dosent support your newer hardware? or you want better support for latest gixzos?
[23:22] <BoomerBile> Dr Willis, that would be kind of cool actually
[23:22] <Delrayne> anyone having trouble with the update manager failing to download repository information on 12.04?
[23:23] <arisdario> well, i have used 12.04 without issue in my other desktop
[23:23] <arisdario> but the only distro that was working in my laptop was mintlinux
[23:23] <arisdario> i think that is an ubuntu based distro
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> mint should be using the same kernel and core as ubuntu
[23:24] <arisdario> correct me please if im wrong
[23:24] <ekaj> Is it normal for a usb drive in linux to write data after being ejected?
[23:25] <OerHeks> ekaj sure, if the job was not finished
[23:25] <arisdario> yes, well only with mintlinux is working the graphic video, i mean ati radeon hd 6490M and the fan was in peace !
[23:25] <arisdario> let me install it and i will be back on irc on ubuntu to tell you more details
[23:25] <BoomerBile> Dr Willis, you have issues with the ok button when choosing an output location? mine won't light up
[23:25] <KromiX> anyone with windows 8 / ubuntu + smb shares working properly?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  ive not used devede  in months.. let me try making a little iso withit.
[23:27] <arisdario> @KromiX, Ubuntu work fine with Windows 8
[23:27] <KromiX> yea having an issue, any idea where I can look ? "Unable to access location - Failed to mount Windows share: Invalid Argument"
[23:27] <KromiX> can see it from windows boxes, fails from Ubuntu and OpenELEC(XBMC)
[23:27] <BoomerBile> hmm, the ok button worked before i started choosing a folder, when i chose a valid one and typed a name it greyed out
[23:28] <daftykins> KromiX: are you trying to use administrative shares?
[23:29] <KromiX> daftykins what do you mean by Administrative Shares ?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  devede seems to have some issues.
[23:29] <daftykins> KromiX: \\IP\x$ where x = drive letter
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  i can select ok. but it never continues
[23:29] <BoomerBile> dr willis http://pastebin.com/Vc469p5J
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  ran it from terminal. it spits out some python errors it seems
[23:29] <cespare|home> Are there directions for packaging software without using bazaar? http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html keeps referring to bzr commands.
[23:30] <BoomerBile> maybe it needs python 3
[23:30] <KromiX> daftykins No, I setup a share on the windows side and am accessing it, or trying to from hostanem and up.. \\IP\ShareName and \\HOSTNAME\ShareName
[23:30] <daftykins> KromiX: ah, try IP.
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  looks here like it wants mplayer. ;)
[23:31] <KromiX> yea same thing
[23:31] <trism> cespare|home: just replace bzr dh_make with dh_make and bzr bd with debuild
[23:31] <BoomerBile> dr willis, i have mplayer
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  well the forward button - dosent go forward. ;()
[23:32] <cmck193> How do i take an application i'm using an transfer it to another workspace
[23:32] <BoomerBile> it does here
[23:32] <BoomerBile> just ok doesn't work
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> it did once.. then came back. :)
[23:32] <daftykins> KromiX: how are you trying to access it? check "dmesg | tail" for some more clues on errors etc.
[23:32] <BoomerBile> saved the project, trying python 3
[23:32] <KromiX> right now via the Browse Network feature in ubuntu, how else would you like me to try and access it?
[23:33] <daftykins> KromiX: hrmm, not familiar with that. a good test is always the smbclient program in a terminal
[23:34] <BoomerBile> dr willis, python 3 works a bit better but now
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  IF i selected my home directory  and give it a name.. it then seemed to have worked.
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  thats all i did differntly, selected a known directory (in my case home)
[23:35] <BoomerBile> i did the same, with my home, didn't work with python 2.7, now python 3.2 is working fine but it's selecting strange directories
[23:35] <BoomerBile> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/metaphaze/dwhelper/Doctor-Who/Season-1/flv-tmp/None/movie/'
[23:35] <BoomerBile> i didn't select that directory at all
[23:36]  * Dr_Willis is reminded of why he has all his raspberry-pis set up with xbmc...
[23:36]  * BoomerBile sighs
[23:36] <BoomerBile> guess i'll have to create this thing manually
[23:37] <BoomerBile> what a pain
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> well it worked for me.. for my one video test.
[23:37] <KromiX> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/5920009/
[23:37] <BoomerBile> with 21 videos it's saying 99% of the dvd will be used, but it won't create it so it doesn't matter lol
[23:38] <KromiX> daftykins it sees the sharses, but then it has those errors
[23:39] <KromiX> daftykins when I use hostname : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5920014
[23:39] <OerHeks> BoomerBile, Typical Dr Who.
[23:40] <BoomerBile> maybe i should buy a mac, they claim their "creativity" software is superior... too bad their stuff sucks
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> if you can afford a mac.. you could afford to buy the Dr Who DVD's
[23:41] <Benxyzzy> How do I include a file in the filesystem generated by update-initramfs? I want to put an encryption key somewhere the early booting stuff can see (for unlocking root)
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> are you 'really' going to watch the things on a old fashioned dvd player? ;)
[23:41] <BoomerBile> i'm not, I already watched them to make sure they were all good to go
[23:42] <BoomerBile> my grandma, who is 86 and never seen them wanted to see them, she's near death like my grandpa so i wanted to get this done NOW
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> all my wifes 'video disk' players can play video files straight from dvd data disks these days. :)
[23:42] <MidnightNinja> Is there anyone here familar with nvidiabl/nvidia gpus/bumblebee?  I cannot adjust the screen brightness on my lenovo y510p, running Nvidia GT750M(sli) and an i7.  Fn+down arrow brings up brightness indicator, but brightness does not change
[23:42] <daftykins> KromiX: connect to one using smbclient, it'll let you list contents
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> or you can get a $40 media player box  that will play most everything under the sun these days
[23:43] <BoomerBile> i should buy her a player that can handle divx and just put them on dvd data style
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> even a low end dvd player these days can play mp4 files
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> 'divx' = gotta love the marketing hype. ;P
[23:43] <shahan> hey guys any way to make the icons in the launcher smaller than 32x32??
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  i think you can go down to 16x16 with some of the tweaker tools.
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com should have info on it
[23:44] <KromiX_Alt> sorry back, daftykins u still here?
[23:44] <BoomerBile> MidnightNinja, backlight controls in your kernel?
[23:45] <daftykins> KromiX: yip
[23:45] <shahan> Dr_Willis: ah, so it does. thanks lol, i have no idea why i didn't google before i came here
[23:45] <shahan> maybe i'm just lonely...
[23:45] <shahan> xD
[23:45] <daftykins> shahan: :(
[23:45] <MidnightNinja> BoomerBile: Not sure, Im new to linux- can you elaborate?
[23:45] <KromiX_Alt> did u see my last pastebins?
[23:46] <BoomerBile> i could but i am not sure it would do much good if you are new to linux
[23:46] <KromiX>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5920014
[23:46] <joshu> MidnightNinja try and see if this works for you. sudo vi /etc/default//grub
[23:46] <KromiX> it can see shares, but can't access them ?
[23:46] <shahan> daftykins: lol no no, it's all good, by the way i like daft punk, dunno if ur user name is related
[23:46] <joshu> MidnightNinja change the line `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" to `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor"`
[23:46] <joshu> MidnightNinja then sudo update grub and reboot
[23:47] <BoomerBile> thanks joshu, me explaining kernel modules wouldn't have done much good
[23:47] <MidnightNinja> alright, let me get on irc on my other computer so I can reboot
[23:47] <joshu> MidnightNinja sorry last command should be sudo update-grub
[23:47] <daftykins> shahan: ;)
[23:47] <daftykins> KromiX: connect to one using smbclient, it'll let you list contents
[23:48] <KromiX> how?
[23:48] <ekaj> Do USBs in Ubuntu typically try to write data after being ejected?
[23:48] <joshu> BoomerBile no worries. You can explain kernel modules to me some other time ;)
[23:48] <MidnightNinja> joshu: should I insert quiet splash in there too?
[23:49] <daftykins> KromiX: smbclient //IP/share
[23:49] <joshu> MidnightNinja that I don't know I just know from my own display brightness crap that after hours of googling and trial and error this worked for me on an HP laptop, sp it might for you ;)
[23:50] <KromiX> daftykins tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_INSUFF_SERVER_RESOURCES
[23:50] <KromiX> googling...
[23:51] <daftykins> O_O
[23:51] <KromiX> what lol
[23:51] <daftykins> weird error :D
[23:51] <KromiX> not much on google, reading...
[23:53] <rombuntutu> Hi there, I can t boot  ubuntu  since I tried to use suspend...I got this   http://paste.ubuntu.com/5914764/ from boot-repair...And each time I try to reboot it's : Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init /bin/sh: 0: Can't open ro      Is this the best place to look for help ? thanks in advance
[23:54] <MidnightNinja2> joshu: Resolution is now super off, unity will not boot
[23:54] <arisdario> Good, im live with Ubuntu now
[23:54] <KromiX> trying something, rebooting, BRB
[23:55] <BoomerBile> MidnightNinja2, how's that sli treating you? two way? three way?
[23:55] <Krustyklimber> hi y'all... I was wondering if anyone can recommend a program to capture the audio from video feeds like Youtube?
[23:55] <MidnightNinja2> boomer- two way and its awesome
[23:55] <MidnightNinja2> besides this whole ubuntu fiasco though :(
[23:55] <BoomerBile> MidnightNinja2, i have 3 way.. nvidia-settings tells me i only have 2 cards though and i can't tell if it's working or not in linux
[23:55] <joshu> MidnightNinja2 ok then you'll have to revert to how it was. If you can't access the GUI then hit ctrl+alt+F1 and then redo the steps removing acpi_backlight....
[23:56] <MidnightNinja2> boomerbile: nice
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> Krustyklimber  youtube-dl to download the movie, then winff to convert it to audio
[23:56] <BoomerBile> i wish nvidia would be consistant across all platforms it supports
[23:56] <MidnightNinja2> joshu: where is the grub again?
[23:56] <MidnightNinja2> boomerbile: did brightness work out of the box for you?
[23:57] <joshu> MidnightNinja2 /etc/default/grub
[23:57] <BoomerBile> not sure, i haven't messed with brightness... you on a laptop or desktop?
[23:57] <MidnightNinja2> laptop
[23:57] <BoomerBile> ah, desktop here
[23:57] <joshu> MidnightNinja2 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX then sudo update-grub and reboot
[23:58] <Krustyklimber> what's winff MonkeyDust
[23:58] <Krustyklimber> ooops found it in the software store
[23:58] <MidnightNinja2> joshu: found this mentioned somewhere, where would this flag be added?
[23:58] <MidnightNinja2> acpi_osi="!Windows2012"
[23:59] <KromiX> failed
[23:59] <KromiX> so wtf is tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_INSUFF_SERVER_RESOURCES mean lol