[02:52] <cool_> gnome
[03:59] <roasted> lol?
[15:55] <ockhamwasright> Hello
[15:56] <roasted> hello
[15:56] <roasted> Is there a way to remove the black box that comes up when you change workspaces with CTRL ALT up/down? I find it hangs around on the screen a hair longer than I'd truly prefer.
[15:56] <ockhamwasright> Do you know how to change the default startup background?
[15:56] <roasted> ockhamwasright: I am unaware offhand, besides of course changing the wallpaper itself, which doesn't sound like what you want.
[15:57] <ockhamwasright> No. I've changed the background to a very pleasant selection, but on startup and shutdown, I am still plagued with the hideous default wallpaper.
[15:57] <roasted> aw, I dig the blue stripes :P
[15:58] <ockhamwasright> Its like an explosion at a tacky factory ...
[15:58] <roasted> better than the purple and blue swirly thing you see on KDE (not trying to pick on KDE, but it was a pleasant change when I came to Gnome)
[15:58] <ockhamwasright> No, I totally LOVE gnome - vastly improvement on any other Ubuntu I've used
[15:59] <ockhamwasright> I may have a look at startup scripts. Thanks ... :)
[17:17] <bjsnider> startup background is provided by plymouth
[20:46] <Primit1v3> is there a problem with the d/l sites for ubuntu gnome???
[20:48] <Primit1v3> all these mofos in here and no one is chatting???
[20:48] <jbicha> !language
[21:55] <darkxst> jbicha, do we want to keep the fallback greeter in gdm?
[21:57] <jbicha> my opinion is no
[21:57] <jbicha> - it's been removed in 3.9
[21:58] <darkxst> jbicha, is actually removed in 3.8.3
[21:58] <jbicha> - if someone's hardware/drivers cause gdm to be painfully slow, then both the GNOME or GNOME Classic sessions offered in Saucy will be painfully slow too
[21:59] <jbicha> (it was restored in 3.8.3.1 because that was an accident)
[21:59] <jbicha> I instead recommend lightdm-gtk-greeter for those computers
[22:01] <darkxst> oh I see
[22:01] <roasted> why are you guys so awesome
[22:09] <darkxst> jbicha, right, currently its kind of hard to even use the fallback greeter...
[22:47] <darkxst> jbicha, lets go straight to gjs 1.37.4
[23:03] <darkxst> I will prepare updates in a bit
[23:14] <roasted> :)
[23:18] <jbicha> darkxst: do you know whether cinnamon will work with that?
[23:19] <darkxst> jbicha, just needs one small patch
[23:19] <darkxst> gjs 1.37.4 is largely just bug fixes and JS17 cleanup/optimisations
[23:20] <darkxst> there is one small api change as part of the improved logging (see packages on gnome3 ppa)
[23:20] <roasted> do you guys use the Gnome VMs to aide in testing?
[23:21] <darkxst> roasted, I run jhbuild for upstream testing
[23:21] <roasted> darkxst: is that different than ostree?
[23:21] <roasted> darkxst: I spoke to a Gnome dev who said they have (or will have) a Gnome VM that is bleeding edge which contains everything uploaded by git.
[23:21] <darkxst> yes
[23:21] <roasted> darkxst: said Gnome devs of different distros and devs of extensions can use it to test ahead of time
[23:22] <roasted> instead of waiting for 3.10 to get released and THEN begin testing, etc
[23:22] <darkxst> they do release VM's from time to time
[23:23] <darkxst> and probably those images use ostree
[23:23] <roasted> I see. I was just curious.
[23:42] <darkxst> jbicha, cinnamon is actually broken even with gjs 1.36
[23:44] <jbicha> ok
[23:45] <jbicha> which shows that no Ubuntu developer cares about whether it works
[23:46] <darkxst> and that no actually uses it, since I can't find any bug
[23:46] <jbicha> maybe by beta 1 or 2
[23:48] <darkxst> maybe bug 1180638, but it had no apport info or logs
[23:54] <darkxst> basically needs to be ported to Gio.dbus