[00:18] <crocket> Ubuntu Edge for the winners
[01:33] <linkchen> Hello
[01:43] <ericY> Hi all.
[01:43] <ericY> I just flashed Ubuntu Touch onto my Nexus 4.
[01:44] <ericY> It works, but I can't seem to change my time zone...
[01:44] <ericY> Does anyone have experience with this?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> ericY, I think you have to chroot in to make any changes.
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> not sure really
[01:45] <ericY> What do you mean by chroot in?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> ericY, Chroot is getting in to make changes, for example if I wanted to mess with my ubuntu install from a live cd I have to use chroot to access and run the OS.
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> !chroot
[01:47] <ericY> Oh.
[01:48] <ericY> I've chroot'd before, but I'm trying to change the time zone _on the device_
[01:48] <ericY> .
[01:48] <ericY> Do I still need to chroot?
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> ericY, Not sure to be honest, I believe the touch needs one to do much at all, just a guess is all.
[01:49] <ericY> Hrm.
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> I don't know if it is setup like a standard desktop with sudo, or a easy click for that.
[01:49] <ericY> Well, there's an app called "system settings" on the phone.
[01:50] <ericY> And a time zone setting within.
[01:50] <ericY> But when I try to click on a different time zone, nothing happens.
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> been about 2 months since I tried it, so at that time it was to limited and I was on a nexus 7, should be more developed now, probably a wiki with info somewhere.
[01:51] <ericY> Alright, I guess I'll look around.
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> ericY, take a lokksie here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Timezone
[01:52] <ericY> Oh!
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> a ssh
[01:52] <ericY> Thank you so much!
[01:52] <ericY> I can just adb shell into it, right?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> google is our friend, on a good day. ;)
[01:52] <ericY> Alright, it works!
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> not sure
[01:52] <ericY> Well, adb shell anyway.
[03:40] <Andre_> Hey all
[03:41] <kotux> Hi Andre_
[03:43] <Andre_> Hey, do you have any more information about logging bugs for ubuntu touch? Is Ubuntu touch basically 14.04?
[03:43] <Andre_> I have it set up on my nexus 4 phone
[03:44] <Andre_> and found some strange things...i.e. bugs
[03:46] <kotux> I'm actually not quite sure, sorry. I'm quite new around here too.
[03:47] <Andre_> Cool, I also have so cool UX design ideas that I wanted to share. I hope someone around here could help us.
[03:47] <Andre_> have some*
[03:48] <kotux> haha
[03:59] <Andre_> Just found out that the Nexus "touch" is 13.10
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> Andre_, I believe you can load saucy or the touch
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> touch may be based on the saucy repos as well.
[04:04] <Andre_> I found out in the settings area. It said OS was 13.10
[04:10] <kotux> glad you found it, Andre_ :-) I just restored my Nexus 7 to Ubuntu touch.
[09:40] <w-flo> so.. yay! my flipped desire z port *finally* boots to shell. turns out I should start "sensorservice" not by simply running the sensorservice binary, but rather use "start sensorservice" in the android container. Now I need to figure out why it fails to autostart
[10:00] <user82> does ubuntu touch work with new android 4.3 radio/bootloader on nexus 4?
[10:02] <ogra_>   no
[10:40] <UbuPhillup> hi
[10:40] <UbuPhillup> can i run system-settings in ubuntu desktop?
[10:47] <adas_> hello
[10:47] <ax562> hello
[10:47] <w-flo> hi :)
[10:47] <UbuPhillup> hi
[10:48] <ax562> how's everyone doing?
[10:48]  * UbuPhillup will check if everything is fine translated
[10:49] <w-flo> great! I've just seen the unity8 shell work on my flipped port :)
[10:53] <ax562> w-flo, that's cool.  I'm personally not a big fan.
[10:53] <ax562> I don't have it on 10.10 but have it on 11.04 and meh
[10:54] <w-flo> ax562, a big fan of what?
[10:54] <ax562> unity
[10:54] <w-flo> ax562, oh. Maybe you should try unity in 13.04
[10:54] <w-flo> 11.04 is not supported with security updates any more AFAIK, so you should update to 12.04 at least!
[10:55] <ax562> yeah but my cd drive took a dumb
[10:55] <ax562> dump
[10:55] <ax562> bios doesn't support usb boot
[10:55] <w-flo> oh.. that sucks. you could use the update manager and upgrade via internet though. Just hope it doesn't break anything and you'd have to reinstall.. :)
[10:56] <ax562> yeah that is my issue.  I have 32 bit 11.04 and want 64 bit 12.04LTS
[10:56] <w-flo> without USB boot or a cd drive that's probably difficult.. :(
[10:56] <ax562> but I have duo boot with windows
[10:57] <ax562> yeah imposible to update to 64 bit
[10:57] <ax562> eventually though
[10:57] <ax562> :)
[10:57] <w-flo> :-)
[10:58] <ax562> how is the ubuntu touch front...OK so is it officially called ubuntu os or touch
[11:00] <w-flo> I guess it's "Ubuntu Touch", not sure :D
[11:01] <ax562> lol I just realized this whole time my highest freq table on my overclocked phone was never being used...duh
[11:07] <ax5623> trying out this xchat
[11:07] <ax5623> usually use irssi lol
[11:07] <ax5623> gui can be nice
[11:08] <w-flo> the xchat gui could be nicer though :D
[11:12] <ax5623> well coming from irssi any gui is good
[11:22] <svnindia> hi, is possible to install ubuntu on lumia 520 windows 8 phone
[11:22] <w-flo> svnindia, if cyanogenmod supports that phone. so probably not :(
[11:24] <UbuPhillup> can i run system-settings in ubuntu desktop?
[11:33] <ax5623> anyone remember robot jox?
[11:58] <magemello> Hi
[11:59] <magemello> I'm trying to install ubuntu touch on my iocean x7
[12:00] <magemello> without success
[12:00] <magemello> maybe someone have some advice for me?
[12:04] <w-flo> magemello, so it fails to boot after flashing?
[12:06] <magemello> yes....still start in android
[12:07] <w-flo> are you sure you flashed two zip files?
[12:08] <magemello> no only one
[12:08] <magemello> because the second fail
[12:08] <w-flo> ah, it can't work without the second one
[12:08] <w-flo> why does it fail?
[12:10] <magemello> Before all I changed in the updater-script file the first line to make the script compatible with my phone
[12:12] <magemello> But after that...If I try to install the file I recieve "Installation aborted" error
[12:12] <w-flo> you changed the line that looks like this? assert(getprop("ro.product.device") == "vision" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "vision");
[12:12] <magemello> yes
[12:12] <w-flo> I don't think that's a very good idea.. you need a zip file that was created for your device
[12:14] <magemello> I know but I have not found...and so I decided to use the more similar
[12:14] <magemello> my phone is an Iocean X7 (china phone)
[12:15] <magemello> I think install ubuntu on a low cost phone like this it'is important
[12:15] <w-flo> Unless the phone is *very* similar I don't think it will work like that
[12:16] <magemello> Do you know how I can make an custom Rom for my phone?
[12:16] <w-flo> nope, sorry :( maybe ask the cyanogenmod people if they can help you
[12:17] <magemello> Where I can find them?
[12:18] <w-flo> magemello, no idea :D I guess they have an IRC channel, it's probably mentioned on their web site
[12:19] <magemello> Ok thank you w-flo  ;) I apriciate that
[12:19] <magemello> bye bye
[12:19] <w-flo> bye magemello, good luck!
[12:20] <magemello> Thank you
[13:31] <hexadezimalion> #cyanogenmod
[15:11] <Ragnar105> Busy channel... :P
[15:12] <RobbyF> weekends are slow
[15:13] <k1l> everyone is busy getting drunk and busy with the hangover after that :)
[15:14] <Ragnar105> Fair enough.
[15:16] <Ragnar105> Are notification settings (SMS) not yet working on Mako builds?
[15:16] <Ragnar105> sounds*
[17:19] <kylewooten99> help
[17:30] <kylewooten99> I have aquestion about Porting Ubuntu Touch to HTC DESIRE HD.
[18:58] <Ragnar105> What's the best way to ensure my device is running the latest build?  Can I do update/upgrade from the terminal, or do I need to download new builds and flash them over?
[19:27] <j3r1ch0> Ragnar105: good question, was wondering myself...
[19:28] <j3r1ch0> I was using the images from here in the hope that Daily Build means exactly that: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[19:30] <j3r1ch0> Am using Nexus4 and am using "adb push" to upload saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+mako.zip and saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip to the device.
[19:30] <j3r1ch0> Then I installed them using TWRP.
[19:30] <j3r1ch0> (Hope that's the right way...)
[19:32] <Ragnar105> Well, I did the same, but I'm wondering if I'll have to do that every time, or if I can just update as I would with any other ubuntu OS
[19:51] <n-iCe> hello guys is ubuntu finally stable?
[19:51] <n-iCe> for at least the nexus 4?
[19:51] <deiu> define stable :)
[19:52] <n-iCe> all working
[19:52] <deiu> it's stable enough to be used as a normal phone, with some additional advantages of a smartphone (partial WiFi support, data)
[19:53] <deiu> but it's definitely worth flashing, if that's your question
[19:53] <n-iCe> deiu: is there a .zip we can flash with our custom recovery?
[19:55] <deiu> to restore your Android?
[19:55] <deiu> afaik, you can only use the images provided by google
[19:55] <deiu> I never tried with a custom image
[19:55] <n-iCe> no to install ubuntu phone
[19:55] <n-iCe> are you currently using it?
[19:55] <deiu> yup
[19:56] <n-iCe> ok, so all I need is to download all the .img files? for my device?
[19:56] <n-iCe> I mean, I'm here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[19:56] <deiu> just the most recent one :)
[19:56] <deiu> 4.3 I think
[19:56] <n-iCe> I have been always flashing roms by flashing a single .zip
[19:56] <n-iCe> where is that zip in here
[19:57] <deiu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android
[19:57] <n-iCe> no no
[19:57] <n-iCe> I don't want to restore
[19:58] <n-iCe> I want to install ubuntu os
[19:58] <deiu> ah
[19:59] <deiu> then read above :)
[19:59] <deiu> Step 4
[20:03] <n-iCe> Device detected as /sbin/sh: getprop: not found
[20:03] <n-iCe> Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[20:03] <n-iCe> When working on flipped images, detection does not work and would require -d
[20:05] <n-iCe> what's that deiu
[20:07] <Tragyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Flashing_the_device
[20:09] <n-iCe> so all I need is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130726.1/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip
[20:09] <n-iCe> right?
[20:10] <Tragyn> Errr, nowhere in what I just posted is that stated at all.  There are steps you can follow.
[20:11] <n-iCe> phablet-flash is just downloading the file I posted above
[20:12] <n-iCe> so if you think, you can just download the file and flash it with twrp or cwm
[20:12] <n-iCe> should work
[20:13] <Tragyn> You need that file as well as this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130726.1/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+mako.zip
[20:13] <Tragyn> Flash the device zip (mako) then the armhf
[20:15] <n-iCe> thanks, I did the phablet-flash -b command
[20:15] <n-iCe> should do it all right?
[20:15] <Tragyn> Yeah that should handle everything.  Hopefully you've already done a backup.
[20:16] <n-iCe> I wipe all
[20:16] <n-iCe> No backup needed, nothing to save
[20:16] <n-iCe> Tragyn: does it connect to play store?
[20:16] <Tragyn> Once you've run that command it'll go through the whole installation process and boot to unity.
[20:16] <Tragyn> No, as it's not Android, it's Ubuntu...
[20:16] <n-iCe> ok
[20:17] <n-iCe> where can I check all the ubuntu apps?
[20:17] <Tragyn> They're on the phone already.  There are 12 core apps, and right now that's all that's available for your phone.
[20:17] <Tragyn> Unless you build your own. ;;)
[20:17] <n-iCe> ooh
[20:17] <n-iCe> so there is no app store
[20:17] <n-iCe> so I will not have whatsapp?
[20:18] <Tragyn> No...the Ubuntu Phone OS is still very new, in Alpha dev stage, so there's little available.
[20:18] <Tragyn> In its current state, only basic functionality exists.
[20:18] <n-iCe> damn, I really need whatsapp
[20:18] <Tragyn> Then this isn't the OS for you, yet.
[20:18] <Tragyn> Should have done some more research before installing an Alpha stage OS. ;)
[20:18] <Tassadar_> I think there is whatsapp already
[20:19] <Tassadar_> it's called...dammit, I don't know, but I saw people talking about it
[20:19] <n-iCe> I can always go back to android
[20:19] <j3r1ch0> How about OpenWhatsApp? That was a Qt build, no?
[20:19] <n-iCe> whosthere ? Tragyn
[20:19] <n-iCe> Tassadar_: ?
[20:20] <Tassadar_> yeah
[20:20] <Tragyn> Well, maybe someone else knows more than I do, but I don't think the app is available for Phone OS
[20:21] <n-iCe> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00658.html
[20:21] <n-iCe> seems it is
[20:21] <Tragyn> Hmm...interesting.
[20:22] <n-iCe> 5m and the zip is downloaded
[20:22] <n-iCe> what device you got guys
[20:22] <Tragyn> Nexus 4
[20:23] <n-iCe> Tragyn: good, me too.
[20:23] <n-iCe> why not android?
[20:23] <Tragyn> Why am I not using Android?
[20:23] <n-iCe> yeah
[20:23] <Tragyn> I like to try new things.  I like the idea of a different approach to the UI.
[20:23] <n-iCe> but you are not that a social user right?
[20:24] <n-iCe> I mean is twitter facebook instagram foursquare at least working?
[20:24] <n-iCe> even G+
[20:24] <Tragyn> Technically Twitter and Facebook as far as I've noticed, but I think they're just webkit
[20:24] <n-iCe> but you can't use instagram webkit
[20:24] <n-iCe> why is people not developing apps?
[20:25] <Tragyn> Well, they are...like I said, though, is still very new.
[20:25] <Tragyn> Once it's ready for an official release candidate, it'll support more apps.
[20:25] <n-iCe> ok
[20:25] <n-iCe> 30 seconds
[20:26] <n-iCe> downloading new .zip
[20:26] <n-iCe> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20130726.1/saucy-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img
[20:26] <n-iCe> just like you said
[20:29] <n-iCe> Tragyn: where are you from
[20:29] <Tragyn> Canada.
[20:29] <n-iCe> Do you code?
[20:29] <Tragyn> Nope./
[20:29] <n-iCe> Where in Cánada
[20:29] <Tragyn> Ontario
[20:29] <n-iCe> I lived in Montreal/Quebec/Ottawa for 6 months
[20:29] <n-iCe> I'm from México
[20:30] <Tragyn> Ah, cool.
[20:30] <n-iCe> loved it, but they are French native speakers
[20:30] <n-iCe> they kinda don't like english native speakers, so I need to use spanish before english so they won't hate me haha
[20:30] <n-iCe> is there an off topic channel?
[20:35] <n-iCe> 30 seconds
[20:36] <n-iCe> done, downloaded.
[20:37] <n-iCe> oh come one, another file
[20:40] <n-iCe> booting UBUNTU OS
[20:42] <n-iCe> Tragyn: still here?
[20:43] <Tragyn> Yep.
[20:43] <n-iCe> Tragyn: you have any trouble with colors?
[20:44] <Tragyn> I don't think so.
[20:44] <n-iCe> black seems to be red for me
[20:44] <n-iCe> kinda red
[20:44] <n-iCe> it is installing the os I guess, but black seems kinda red
[20:45] <Tragyn> Hmm, no idea.
[20:56] <n-iCe> how do I go back Tragyn
[20:57] <Tragyn> Back in the OS?  Depends on where you are.
[20:57] <Tragyn> In an app you can swipe up from the bottom edge and press "back"
[20:58] <n-iCe> the whole os is slow
[20:58] <n-iCe> and buggy
[20:59] <Tragyn> Yes, it is...
[20:59] <Tragyn> That's why it's in Alpha dev stage...what did you expect?
[21:00] <n-iCe> when did the os was released?
[21:00] <Tragyn> It wasn't released.
[21:00] <Tragyn> The alpha preview for developers was released a month or two ago
[21:00] <Tragyn> It's not officially available unit October..
[21:01] <Tragyn> until*
[21:36] <lopuhtc> Hi, anybody there?
[21:36] <lopuhtc> Just wanted to ask about ubuntu dev for the htc one m7
[23:35] <jalt> is it a problem if it says secure boot is enabled when i try to install ubuntu touch on the nexus 4?