[00:00] <joshu> MidnightNinja2 unfortunately someone with more grub experience will have to chime in on that. sorry
[00:00] <arisdario> Why ubuntu use 2.8 GB from 8 GB ?
[00:01] <MidnightNinja2> its all good, thanks
[00:01] <arisdario> what if i have only 2GB ?
[00:04] <KromiX> FIXED it!
[00:04] <Benxyzzy> How do I add a file to initramfs using update-initramfs? Where do I have to put the file, to be included in the boot filesystem?
[00:04] <KromiX> had to do this: http://www.unixresources.net/linux/lf/12/archive/00/00/13/92/139242.html
[00:04] <crocket> Did anyone preorder ubuntu edge phone?
[00:05] <Awaken> $800 :(
[00:05] <Awaken> or rather [insert $600-$800] :(
[00:05] <KromiX> pain in th ass!
[00:07] <Fah> Ubuntu on 6,2 macbook in eufi mode on 13.04? Anyone happen to be running this? The help.ubuntu.com site doesn't really go past 12.04 on that hardware
[00:07] <daftykins> KromiX: any progress?
[00:07] <KromiX> got it
[00:08] <daftykins> what was it?
[00:08] <KromiX> windows bs error
[00:08] <KromiX> regedit fix...
[00:08] <KromiX> http://www.unixresources.net/linux/lf/12/archive/00/00/13/92/139242.html
[00:08] <FloodBot1> KromiX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <KromiX> not sure what IrpStackSize does yet, gonna read about it
[00:09] <KromiX> but setting it to 30 worked
[00:09] <daftykins> KromiX: cool :) thanks for sharing
[00:09] <KromiX> yea, that 1 was pretty obscure lol
[00:09] <KromiX> The IRPStackSize parameter specifies the number of stack locations in I/O request packets (IRPs) that are used by Windows
[00:10] <KromiX> no idea why it was an issue never had this issue before on any windows install, and this was a fresh format, no changes on system
[00:10] <arisdario> Ati Radeon 6490M is supported by ubuntu ?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> arisdario, Take a look for yourself. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=6490M
[00:12] <awpti> So, dumb question. I've been through the manual and I can't figure this out. I've installed some apps via the software center and now I can't find them anywhere since rebooting. How do you find installed applications?
[00:13] <smgordon> My nvidia 9800gt 128mb card works perfect
[00:13] <arisdario> so AMD, f*** you!
[00:13] <arisdario> thats the final word on askubuntu
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> !language | arisdario
[00:13] <PalSal> anybody here have blogs and want quality backlinks for free msg me !
[00:13] <Aprel> awpti: type the name of the apps in the dash? Do they come up?
[00:13] <arisdario> Sorry, i coy paste that language
[00:13] <arisdario> from ask ubuntu
[00:14] <awpti> Aprel, yes.
[00:14] <alexanderW> awpti /usr/share/applications
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> arisdario, Enough if that and they will ban you.
[00:14] <arisdario> yes, sorry, my mistake
[00:15] <KromiX> ty daftykins for the help btw
[00:15] <smgordon> Awpti: dash, type in app name, it will show up
[00:15] <arisdario> So no, Ati Radeon doesn't support 6490M Graphics video
[00:15] <arisdario> on Ubuntu
[00:16] <awpti> Is there a way to add them to a bar of some sort? Seems rather silly that I have to type the name of an app i've installed to use it.
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> PalSal, That is considered spam.
[00:16] <thiebaude> arisdario, i tried everything to get catalyst control center on ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop and its a no go
[00:16] <arisdario> and if i install some apps like apache, mysql, and playing youtube video my laptop go to 100 degrees
[00:17] <Aprel> awpti: you can drag the icons to the launcher on the left of the screen and they'll stay there. If the app is running, right click and click 'lock in launcher'
[00:17] <smgordon> Arisdario :  http://askubuntu.com/questions/185548/open-source-driver-for-amd-radeon-hd-6490m
[00:17] <pvl1> gnome-panel has a lot of dependencies, is there a good alternative?
[00:17] <thiebaude> arisdario, install tlp
[00:17] <crocket> Ubuntu Edge phone for the winner
[00:17] <crocket> iOS for the loser
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> !ot > crocket
[00:18] <snake2243> hello guys
[00:18] <thiebaude> hey snake
[00:18] <arisdario> @thiebaude: with tlp my laptop is an old car :(
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, gnome panel what desktop is that?
[00:18] <arisdario> i agree that it save a lot battery, but is worse than power saver from windows
[00:18] <snake2243> hey you guys I am looking for a group of peaple that like to use the shell, I am still currently learning the basics but it would be nice to have friends that have the same hobby as me
[00:19] <thiebaude> arisdario, i noticed on my laptop, its much cooler
[00:19] <snake2243> any one instrested?
[00:20] <marlinc> Anybody who would like to take at my first blog thing I've written? marlinc.nl/uncategorized/third-party-login-and-you/
[00:20] <arisdario> for dev things is not recommended to have tlp
[00:20] <thiebaude> snake2243, maybe check with #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:20] <Kitt3n> !ot | snake2243
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> marlinc, This is ubuntu support.
[00:20] <snake2243> oh, my bad
[00:20] <snake2243> first time using irc
[00:21] <kostkon> marlinc, unrelated to ubuntu, thus spam
[00:21] <marlinc> Ah well thats right :p where would I ask something like that mm
[00:21] <Jinx_swe> Heya. Can anyone help me with X forwarding via ssh? I get "no display specified" error. If I export DISPLAY=:0.0 or the like I get "display not found" error.
[00:21] <marlinc> The offtopic channels?
[00:21] <marlinc> Well whatever never mind :p
[00:21] <rombuntutu> New with ubuntu . recently can't boot : " Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init /bin/sh: 0: Can't open ro"  , I've tried boot-repair and fsck  on live CD, someone has another ideas.
[00:22] <rombuntutu> ?
[00:22] <Fah> Jinx_swe: you doing "ssh -A <host>" or "ssh -X <host>"? Does the host have xinit on it?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, The details leading to always help.
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> for the channel not me
[00:23] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: im trying to use metacity if thats what ur asking
[00:23] <arisdario> seem to be much faster ubuntu 13
[00:23] <Jinx_swe> @Fah doing ssh -xy {host}
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Not really the desktop.
[00:23] <Fah> Jinx_swe: add a -v and see what it says about X11
[00:23] <arisdario> or im so tire and the computer is so fast
[00:24] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: well im trying to stick to gnome... maybe im missunderstanding the question
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, The gnome shell, or fallback, gnome3 underlies unity as well
[00:24] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: i removed unity
[00:24] <pvl1> and compiz
[00:25] <arisdario> somebody know why i see a lot of folders with found.0,found.01, found...
[00:25] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: tryina make a custom livecd
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Would that seem pertinent in your original posts? Can't really help there myself.
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, I like the cairo-dock, not sure if that works for you, other docks are out there.
[00:27] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: well my main problem right now is that i want a panel in my session, but gnome-panel has a large list of dependencies, most of which i dont want... so i wanted an alternate
[00:27] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: ill check that out actually
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> cairo may have problems in metacity not sure realy
[00:28] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: do you remember ubuntu prior to unity? it had a bar at the top, apps, places, system
[00:28] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee,  thanks, first question : what are the commands I should try first from the ubuntu liveCD in order to make ubuntu boot again
[00:28] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: thats kinda what im looking for
[00:28] <kostkon> pvl1, give us an example of the unwanted deps
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Yeah gnome2, not sure of a panel though.
[00:29] <veryhappy> hi guys -- might there be any possiblity to setup a home server to go to sleep and wake up when needed by a computer in the local net on a specific port?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, Not sure you have tried what I would a fsck, and check grub, a bit out of my knowledge area without googling.
[00:29] <pvl1> kostkon: evolution, cups, gstreamer
[00:30] <pvl1> kostkon: and it install libunity
[00:30] <kostkon> pvl1, are you trying to install the gnome-fallback-session metapackage
[00:31] <daftykins> veryhappy: you could use WOL to trigger a system to wake up on command - not so sure about scheduling auto though
[00:31] <pvl1> kostkon: remove unity for a custom livecd
[00:31] <kostkon> pvl1, ah. now i get it ok
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> wake on lan - can be a bit.. finicky
[00:31] <pvl1> kostkon: sorry shouldve been more clear
[00:31] <kostkon> pvl1, np
[00:31] <pvl1> kostkon: any reccomendations?
[00:32] <veryhappy> daftykins: that's why i asked. used to wake up computer by command but not auto...
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, NO image of the OS running fine or backups?
[00:32] <daftykins> veryhappy: some proper server systems have settings to allow power on at given times
[00:32] <kostkon> pvl1, hmm i can't help you with that sorry :/
[00:33] <pvl1> kostkon: its kool thank you tho
[00:33] <kostkon> pvl1, :)
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, Did you save the bootinfo summary generated by bootrepair?
[00:34] <veryhappy> daftykins: but what about me want to go use the computer and the proxy isn't on at this time? i don't need it randomly i need it when i send a request
[00:34] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, I think i did only backup of my files, yes I have one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5914764/
[00:34] <st12> hey
[00:35] <daftykins> veryhappy: so it's a web proxy?
[00:35] <veryhappy> daftykins: yep.
[00:35] <veryhappy> daftykins: squid3. used as cache proxy
[00:35] <st12> so is ubuntu better then windows
[00:36] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, I tried to "read" it but I don't understand... my skills are usually limited to google researches and the ubuntuforum post
[00:36] <veryhappy> st12: it always depends what you want to do with a system.
[00:36] <daftykins> veryhappy: why turn it off? power conservation?
[00:36] <veryhappy> daftykins: i'm living here with my mom, i also need to look out on the power conservation, cause SHE pays the bills.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, Looks okay, yeah not a easy read for sure, have you tried both kernel sets?
[00:37] <daftykins> veryhappy: and you run a local proxy? :) why not turn it into a VM that runs when you boot your system...
[00:38] <veryhappy> daftykins: good point, but me having a lot of computers and a nettop wanted to try out if it works that good like it should.
[00:40] <daftykins> veryhappy: mmm, i used to run a caching proxy atop my dedicated router PC :) back in the day. it was neat because me and housemates read the same news sites so it reduced the repeated requests for the same site. a setup for a single person seems a tad overkill though. anyway, can't come up with any better ideas i'm afraid
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> use a raspberry pi for the server. :) it uses like less power then your nightlight. ;P
[00:41] <savagejen> Is Mir in saucy already?
[00:41] <veryhappy> daftykins: what's "atop"?
[00:41] <rombuntutu> <wilee-nilee, sorry  I m slow, I try to learn at the same time ( I was not  sure to know about kernel sets) If it when you open ubuntu and choose between the different kernel available ? Or is this something you do with the terminal commands ?
[00:41] <trism> savagejen: no
[00:41] <savagejen> ok
[00:41] <Jinx_swe> daftykins - that's overkill for newspapers too you know :-)
[00:42] <PalSal> Jinx_swe what is a overkill ?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, You will see this in the grub menu, you may need to tap the shift to get the menu if you only have one OS.
[00:42] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, ok ok yes I tried all and always the same "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init /bin/sh: 0: Can't open ro"
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu,  one of the choices is the previous kernels I forget the name you have two sets altogether.
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, Did you fsck the partition?
[00:43] <daftykins> Jinx_swe: ...what? that doesn't even make sense...
[00:43] <daftykins> veryhappy: 'on top of'
[00:47] <sam113101> HELP
[00:47] <sam113101> I can't run wireshark as non-root, it doesn't pick up any interface
[00:47] <Jinx_swe> PaSal: Overkill - Destructive nuclear capacity exceeding the amount needed to destroy an enemy. Apparently. According to the free online dictionary =)
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, This ubuntu?
[00:48] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, I use  Gparted with ubunutu liveCD and the command sudo fsck /dev/sda1..
[00:48] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: yes, on ubuntu
[00:50] <daftykins> sam113101: that's pretty normal. run it as root...
[00:50] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, is there a best way to fsck the partition other than using the ubuntu LiveCD ?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> rombuntutu:  from recovery/rescue mode
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, I have had to only fsck a couple of times so not real familiar, here is a link. The partition has to be unmounted to at boot or a live cd is the norm.
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> rombuntutu:  but i use live cds
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[00:51] <sam113101> daftykins: it warns me not to do that
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> s/to/so
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  it needs to run as root to get full access.. running stuff as root is dangerous ;) so you decide
[00:52] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I was able to run it as non-root by adding myself to the wireshark group, usually
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> you normally wouldent want users running wireshark.. that could be even mroe dangerous
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  perhaps time to check its docs/wiki/faq
[00:53] <daftykins> sam113101: as long as you close it at the end i don't see any issue.
[00:53] <daftykins> you want to run it with gksudo though, not sudo
[00:53] <veryhappy> daftykins: sorry was just away
[00:54] <veryhappy> daftykins: thank you, i think i'll have to figure it out for myself, are there any functions that i can enable like network reducing and prefetching?
[00:54] <veryhappy> daftykins: squid3 i mean
[00:54] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, thanks, I think Gparted fsck the partition...I guess It doesnt repair enough for my issue
[00:55] <daftykins> veryhappy: i'm afraid i'm still struggling with how any of that is useful for one or two users :)
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, I wondered if it does, a regular fsck might be the answer.
[00:55] <veryhappy> daftykins: it IMPROVES the speed.
[00:55] <daftykins> only on repeated accesses surely
[00:55] <veryhappy> daftykins: and anyway when i want to become an administrator just good for my future you got it?
[00:56] <veryhappy> daftykins: when i learn it now i'm able to setup stuff in no time.
[00:56] <daftykins> heh
[00:56] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee,my fsck resuls is : "/dev/sda1: clean, 661870/30269440 files, 28235447/121056768 blocks"
[00:58] <rombuntutu>  wilee-nilee, I found the post about the same problem I have on ubuntuforums... do you know how long the website is still down?
[00:59] <veryhappy> btw does it make a difference when i install the minimal version and set it up with another kernel for server usage or should i install a server version from a cdrom?
[01:00] <jrib> veryhappy: what?
[01:00] <Awaken> the kernels are identical now apparently
[01:00] <veryhappy> jrib: what didn't you understand?! i wrote clearly what i want to know
[01:00] <Awaken> the -server is just there for compatibility
[01:00] <jrib> veryhappy: it's difficult to parse what you mean.  Rephrase it
[01:00] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, I guess I ll wait for the ubuntuforums, thanks for your help!
[01:01] <veryhappy> Awaken: thanks, cause i'm using the minimal version of ubuntu and always install the stuff i need to keep the system clean and fast.
[01:01] <Awaken> that'll be fine
[01:01] <veryhappy> i guess that's the best way
[01:01] <Awaken> only difference is surrounding packages, installer, and default configs
[01:01] <Awaken> and i dont think theres much difference there
[01:02] <veryhappy> good.
[01:02] <Awaken> but it wont report itself as ubuntu server
[01:02] <Awaken> which would bug me :D
[01:02] <Awaken> im sure u can change that tho lol
[01:02] <veryhappy> Awaken: why wouldn't it?
[01:02] <Awaken> cos its not
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> reporting as a 'server' ? makes me wonder how theres any differance..
[01:02] <jrib> where does it report as "server"?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> desktop and server differances are  rather minimal as far as ive seen.. getting smaller every release
[01:03] <Awaken> cat /etc/*-release
[01:03] <veryhappy> ah got it that's why
[01:03]  * Dr_Willis makes his pc report itself as Skynet.
[01:03] <Awaken> :)
[01:03] <veryhappy> Awaken: well, i'm exercising for now. later i can take the server version and everything will be fine.
[01:03] <jrib> Awaken: what am I looknig for?
[01:04] <Awaken> actually, my ubuntu server doesnt report itself as ubuntu server anyway lol
[01:04] <Awaken> just Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS"
[01:04] <Awaken> thought it used to say Ubuntu server xxxx
[01:04]  * Dr_Willis wonders why it really matters
[01:04] <veryhappy> Awaken: is there actually any way to let firefox automatically recognize on another computer where the proxy server is located? like 192.168.2.2 as an example?
[01:04] <Awaken> yes
[01:04] <Awaken> although
[01:04] <Awaken> ive never done it
[01:04] <Awaken> its done through dhcp
[01:05] <Awaken> you can assign a config server for proxy settings
[01:05] <Awaken> like assigning a PXE boot location for network boot
[01:05] <Awaken> i decided it was easier just to enter it manually :D
[01:05] <veryhappy> Awaken: well, how does firefox know when i'm statically configure the ip addresses and setup in firefox automatically recognize the proxy server?
[01:06] <Awaken> it's a systemwide thing
[01:06] <Awaken> or you could setup a transparent proxy of course if you wanted
[01:06] <veryhappy> Awaken: what's a transparent proxy good for?
[01:06] <Awaken> forcing all http traffic to go through a proxy
[01:06] <Awaken> e.g. in a workplace to enforce blocking websites
[01:07] <Awaken> google transparent proxy for info
[01:07] <Awaken> firefox though does let you set manual settings ignoring systemwide settings
[01:07] <Awaken> chrome / ie dont
[01:07] <Awaken> which is why i have firefox on my machine lol
[01:07] <veryhappy> Awaken: well that's not the idea in this case. i just wanted a cache proxy and want to let it automatically recognize if the home server is down or up and can provide the service.
[01:07] <Awaken> yeah you can do that
[01:07] <Awaken> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd361887.aspx
[01:08] <veryhappy> Awaken: but: i'm not using dhcp for my computer
[01:08] <Awaken> well you should be :D
[01:08] <veryhappy> even not for the other computers...
[01:08] <Awaken> makes it easier
[01:08] <veryhappy> Awaken: i'm the administrator here at home.
[01:09] <Awaken> dhcp isnt hard
[01:09] <Awaken> just means you dont have to set IP's lol
[01:09] <veryhappy> Awaken: i'm using static ip addresses for my own computers other pcs get dhcp adresses
[01:09] <Awaken> you can bind a mac address (ie physical network card) to a particular IP
[01:09] <Awaken> achieving the same effect
[01:09] <Awaken> only it'll still have that static IP in any OS you boot up on that box, and it will still have it if you reinstall the OS
[01:09] <Awaken> :P
[01:09] <veryhappy> Awaken: you don't seem to know i know what dhcp is, i just decided not to use it for my own reasons
[01:10] <veryhappy> Awaken: dude, i want to become administrator. if i don't know anything i'll ask you ok?
[01:10] <Awaken> why the sudden flaming ?
[01:10] <Awaken> you wanted proxy auto conf, u can do that with dhcp
[01:10] <Awaken> and if you want static IP's you can still do that through dhcp
[01:11] <Awaken> only you never need to set them up again
[01:11] <veryhappy> Awaken: cause i don't like people to think i don't know about technics and informatics ok? that's all.
[01:11] <jrib> !ot
[01:11] <veryhappy> jrib: stop teasing us.
[01:11] <Awaken> fine. I was just pointing out you could still have the benefits of a static IP through DHCP
[01:11] <Awaken> and also get proxy auto configuration
[01:11] <veryhappy> Awaken: and how does firefox find the right proxy?
[01:12] <Awaken> I dont know ive not tried it but I guess it will default to the initial system wide configuration first
[01:12] <Awaken> therefore it would work the same as other browsers
[01:12] <Awaken> just because you can save a separate configuration for firefox doesnt mean it ignores the system proxy settings
[01:12] <Awaken> althought it might, i've not tried it :D
[01:12] <Awaken> the actual auto config though is a javascript file on a web server
[01:12] <veryhappy> Awaken: i just wondered because i was checking the traffic on the server monitor and didn't see anything when i checked automatically use the proxy.
[01:13] <Awaken> um
[01:13] <Awaken> not sure what you mean by that
[01:13] <veryhappy> Awaken: i was looking up on iftop if there's any traffic coming from my notebook, nothing, i checked "use proxy for every address" and bam! everything came up
[01:14] <Awaken> erum
[01:14] <Awaken> still dont really get the relevance
[01:15] <Awaken> like i said i dont know if firefox grabs the system proxy
[01:15] <veryhappy> Awaken: when i use my nettop for example i don't always want to switch it on, and so i get an error but if firefox would automatically detect if there's a proxy or not, it would have to use it or not.
[01:16] <Awaken> hm
[01:16] <veryhappy> the nettop IS the proxy btw
[01:16] <Awaken> tbh you probably dont need a proxy
[01:16] <Awaken> for a home
[01:16] <Awaken> unless you want to block sites from your kids or something
[01:16] <veryhappy> Awaken: i'm adminstrator i'm trying out stuff...
[01:16] <Awaken> web browser caching on every system will do most of the grunt work
[01:17] <Awaken> well i have no idea if it will auto failover to NOT using a proxy if you've set it up to use a proxy
[01:17] <veryhappy> Awaken: i got no kids :D i'm 25.
[01:17] <Awaken> it's not something you'd normally need
[01:17] <Awaken> either you have a proxy, and you make sure its up, or you dont
[01:18] <Awaken> hmm
[01:18] <veryhappy> Awaken: ok then i have to enable or disable it manually... thanks anyway and don't worry about my last statement i'm thankful i just wanted to state that i know what dhcp is and other as well :)
[01:18] <Awaken> if you setup proxy auto config via dhcp or something I guess it would do a check every time you turn on the system and it gets it's IP
[01:18] <Awaken> and if it cant find a config, would presumably not try and use the proxy
[01:19] <veryhappy> Awaken: good. i'll check it out
[01:19] <Awaken> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config
[01:19] <veryhappy> thanks
[01:19] <Awaken> good starting point, quite a detailed article actually
[01:19] <veryhappy> i'll read it
[01:19] <veryhappy> take care buddy thank youi
[01:19] <Awaken> np, have fun :D
[01:20] <veryhappy> sure will
[01:20] <veryhappy> bye
[01:24] <shahan> hey guys, this is interesting, i have currently an extended desktop with two monitors of different size
[01:24] <shahan> i'm using the laptop's the smaller one as the extension and the bigger one has the launcher
[01:25] <shahan> when i blowup a youtube video fullscreen with firefox or chromium on the bigger screen it's odd and wrongly fitted
[01:25] <shahan> but with google-chrome it works fine, the youtube video fits perfectly
[01:25] <shahan> fullscreened
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> shahan, You have the resolution separated for each monitor
[01:26] <shahan> indeed, and that "error" shows with firefox and chromium
[01:26] <shahan> but  why does chrome work well?
[01:26] <Aprel> firefox and chrome use a different version of flash
[01:27] <shahan> i understand firefox and chrome, but chromium and chrome?!
[01:27] <shahan> ah
[01:28] <shahan> it's clearly imitation the laptop's resolution when skewed, maybe if i switch the launcher placement, so weird...
[01:28] <shahan> *imitating
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> chromium would be using the ubuntu repos flash I believe if that is the problem.
[01:28] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  ahhhhhh yes, both firefox and chromium are the ubuntu apps, chrome is different
[01:29] <shahan> that's so odd, I wonder if it'd be quick fix to have chromium working with this, it's not a big deal at all though.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I 'm not really sure, so will leave this for those that may have more insight. ;)
[01:30] <shahan> i'll post it with pics, on the forums
[01:30] <shahan> once they're back...
[01:30] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  thanks though
[01:30] <Awaken> yeah chromium would surely not use the same flash as chrome
[01:30] <Awaken> because its entirely free isnt it? and flash not free :P
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> goolgle just forks the latest adobe into theirs, pepper flash, would be my guess it is the same release number generally.
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> both are free in cost but not fee as in open source
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> free*
[01:33] <shahan> switched launcher to smaller monitor that didn't work, i thought maybe emphasis or something...
[01:35] <shahan> and same resolutions doesn't work either, so very odd... lol
[01:36] <shahan> and what's the whole deal with chromium and chrome??  one comes with ubuntu and the other doesn't?  Chromium is more frequently updated and possibly more buggy or something?
[01:37] <San1ty> Hi, Can I install ubuntu TO a usb stick FROM a windows install?
[01:37] <San1ty> so it should be a fully installed persistent version on that usb stick
[01:37] <shahan> San1ty: i used some bootable usb creator called Lili or seomthing
[01:38] <Awaken> that will load it all into RAM though same as a live CD
[01:38] <Awaken> you dont really want to have the system actually installed onto USB
[01:38] <San1ty> hmm
[01:38] <San1ty> I haven an issue
[01:38] <joubin> San1ty: just go through a normal install and choose usb as the install point. if your hardware supports it.
[01:38] <Awaken> the way an operating system uses its filesystem would rapidly kill the sort of memory used on USB sticks
[01:38] <shahan> yeah sounds like you want to get rid of windows and have ubuntu only on the machine?
[01:38] <San1ty> I need to have a persistent install somewhere
[01:38] <San1ty> but I suspect my HDD to be broken
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> San1ty, Unetbootin will do that and a handful of othere pendrivelinux has some of them.
[01:38] <Awaken> at the very least dont make a swap partition :D
[01:39] <shahan> you could install on some kind external hard drive...
[01:39] <San1ty> I wish I still had one available
[01:39] <shahan> not usb ..stick. flash drive .. or what have you, though
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> San1ty, A persistent will fill up and a ISO load had limitations, if you have a usb big enough a full install may be better
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> has*
[01:40] <San1ty> all my drives are used up
[01:40] <San1ty> and the HDD on that machine has a windows install
[01:40] <Awaken> build a fileserver and clear up :D
[01:40] <San1ty> and that windows install is doign crazy things
[01:40] <shahan> surely not any kind of regular USB device, something specific
[01:40] <San1ty> control panel breaking etc
[01:40] <San1ty> so I suspect a broken disk
[01:40] <shahan> try dual booting ubuntu?
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> you can get fairly sizable flash drive cheap, if you have an extra 20$ us
[01:41] <San1ty> hmm gonna think about it tomorrow with a clear head
[01:41] <San1ty> bit too tired now
[01:41] <San1ty> thanks anyway guys
[01:41] <Awaken> if you just want to get to your stuff
[01:41] <San1ty> best option would be
[01:41] <shahan> you could install ubuntu on a small partition of the HDD
[01:41] <FloodBot1> San1ty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <San1ty> get a new HDD
[01:41] <San1ty> is there an easy way in windows to check disk integrity
[01:41] <San1ty> or disk HDD erros
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> San1ty, Get a SSD if you can.
[01:41] <Awaken> and back it up etc, boot off a live CD, and you'll be able to browse your hard drives etc
[01:41] <San1ty> just to know if something is wrong with it
[01:41] <Awaken> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/guide-to-using-check-disk-in-windows-vista/
[01:42] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  oh man i'm dying to get one of those
[01:42] <San1ty> I don't need an SSD guys
[01:42] <San1ty> I'm trying to run a very small server with horrible specs
[01:42] <San1ty> it just needs to work
[01:42] <shahan> San1ty: could try running the chkDisk for erros at the startup
[01:42] <San1ty> either windows or ubuntu
[01:42] <San1ty> yeah but isn't checkdisk mostly BS?
[01:42] <shahan> *errors
[01:42] <San1ty> isn't there a better tool that just tells me
[01:42] <San1ty> your HDD is broken or it isn't
[01:43] <San1ty> I don't want to know if every windows file is ok
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I got a nice crucial 256 gig for about 200$, but I had financial aid sitting around, best investment yet
[01:43] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  that's a great deal, damn youz and your fast as hell startup!
[01:44]  * wilee-nilee loves amazon, especially prime purchase.
[01:44] <Awaken> http://hddscan.com/
[01:44] <shahan> San1ty: uhh i think something like smartDisk... or something on partableApps.com
[01:44] <Awaken> http://www.hdtune.com/
[01:44] <Awaken> them
[01:44] <Awaken> probs hdtune
[01:44] <FloodBot1> Awaken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:45] <San1ty> I installed diskcheckup from passmark
[01:47] <heroes> hello
[01:47] <heroes> gud morning
[01:47] <San1ty> I've head the worst experience ever with that machine I'm setting up
[01:47] <San1ty> installed windows 7, ubuntu, Win 8, Win 8 again, Win 8 refresh
[01:47] <San1ty> all due to strange errors I didn't understand
[01:47] <San1ty> googling gave me nothing
[01:47] <San1ty> might have been fucked up hdd all along :(
[01:48] <heroes> do u know.?
[01:48] <San1ty> no I'm still nto sure it's the disk
[01:48] <San1ty> but it's an ancient disk
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> hard drives seem to be the weakest link these days.
[01:48] <San1ty> for sure 10 years old
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> 10 yr old?  definatly time to replace it then.
[01:48] <heroes> how to install ubuntu on my android phone?
[01:48] <San1ty> yeah
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> heroes: totally depends on what you expect and the phone.
[01:49] <San1ty> but there's no surefire way to know
[01:49] <San1ty> is my HDD broken or isn't it
[01:49] <San1ty> Windows isn't giving any IO error
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> every hd WILL fail eventually
[01:49] <San1ty> that's also strange IMHO
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> its just a matter of time and how badly.
[01:49] <pvl1> how can i start an xserver on tty8
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> windows tends to crash so much for other reasons.. its often hard to point to a single reason.
[01:49] <heroes> dr_willis: whats do u mean?
[01:50] <irssi-mike> San1ty: I had the worst time with an install turned out to be the heat issue
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> heroes:  it depends on the phone and what you mean exactly by 'install ubuntu' theres vm's out there in the play store that let you do it easially.
[01:50] <San1ty> CPU runs at 30 °C
[01:51] <irssi-mike> San1ty: blew into the machine for an hour just to get things up and running.
[01:51] <San1ty> bleh the hdd tool I downloaded
[01:51] <San1ty> says my HDD is ok
[01:51] <heroes> must to i have ubuntu applications?
[01:51] <San1ty> but my windows install is completely borked
[01:51] <irssi-mike> San1ty: did you run badblocks
[01:51] <San1ty> dunno what it does
[01:51] <San1ty> it's a disk self test utility
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> heroes:  theres various 'install linux/ubuntu/whatever' apps on the android market that give you a ubuntu session in a vnc session inside android.
[01:52] <irssi-mike> maybe a virus in the master boot
[01:53] <jhile> is it better to use the free nouveau drivers or the proprietary nvidia drivers =?
[01:54] <smgordon> jhile : worked for me  have an nvidia 9800gt that works just fine
[01:54] <irssi-mike> jhile: i've got CUDA and nvidia, i could look around for that link i used hold on
[01:54] <jhile> so it is better using the actual drivers?
[01:56] <San1ty> bleh the HDD seems to be fine
[01:56] <San1ty> wtf is wrong with this windows 8 install then :s
[01:56] <jhile> does your computer support windows 8?
[01:57] <jhile> may sound stupid but samsung screwed everyone who purchased a computer before the day of win 8 release
[01:57] <smgordon> windows 8 is screwy dumped it for ubuntu
[01:57] <jhile> win 8 does suck and i went back to win 7 partition
[01:57] <jhile> besides the fact that 50% of my drivers didnt work because of samsung
[01:57] <San1ty> it's a desktop custom hardware
[01:58] <San1ty> so should be fine therre
[01:58] <San1ty> I'm really experiencing the strangest things ever
[01:58] <San1ty> never had this happen to me before
[01:58] <San1ty> I have win 8 on my main desktop
[01:58] <jhile> id check the actual hardware man, im telling you my i5 system worked awful with win 8
[01:58] <San1ty> no issues everything works
[01:58] <San1ty> bios has text on box (for WIN 8)
[01:59] <irssi-mike> jhile: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/522699/cuda-setup-and-installation/installing-cuda-on-ubuntu/
[01:59] <jhile> wireless kept disconnecting, nvidia kept crashing etc
[01:59] <jhile> going to check into that now thank oyu
[01:59] <San1ty> also
[01:59] <San1ty> why are the ATI drivers
[01:59] <San1ty> in linux so horirble
[01:59] <San1ty> :(
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> San1ty:  ask ati/amd?
[02:00] <San1ty> yeah I know
[02:00] <irssi-mike> San1ty: did you install windows first
[02:00] <San1ty> it's their fault
[02:00] <San1ty> installed win 7 first
[02:00] <San1ty> then ubuntu
[02:00] <San1ty> then win 8
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> im assuming you mean the 'fglrx' drivers.
[02:00] <FloodBot1> San1ty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <jhile> if i were to guess its because intel is destroying the market right now especially in laptops
[02:00] <jhile> intel hd graphics / nvidia are all  i see anymore
[02:00] <irssi-mike> San1ty: i don't remember the reason for it but i remember someone telling me that windows had to be first
[02:00] <joubin> Has anyone tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server ?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> Can we stick to support and not opinions on stuff
[02:01] <jhile> if you install windows after ubuntu usually the grub gets removed and such
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> joubin:  ive used the apt-cacher-ng server in the past. it worked very well for my home lan.
[02:02] <joubin> Ok.
[02:02] <jowang> ping localhost
[02:02] <joubin> Ill look at that too
[02:02] <jowang> good
[02:02] <Kurogane> anyone knows the cause of this problem? http://pastebin.com/10HEv9eX
[02:02] <pvl1> i accidentally made uck crash... does that mean i have to start over?
[02:03] <San1ty> I'm probably going to install ubuntu on the hdd tomorrow
[02:03] <San1ty> and go from there
[02:03] <San1ty> ubuntu was performing pretty slowly when compared with windows tho (celeron "ivy bridge" cpu)
[02:03] <San1ty> I was a bit surprised that ubuntu felt laggy
[02:03] <San1ty> and windows was fast on that lowend HW
[02:05] <pvl1> answered my own q
[02:05] <jhile> irssi-mike, hey is that guide better to follow than the guide on help.ubuntu?
[02:05] <jhile> irssi-mike, the one on the help.ubuntu is saying i should install the nvidia driver first than cuda
[02:06] <irssi-mike> irssi-mike: when you use the cuda install it will prompt you to install nvidia, just say no and install the latest drivers first
[02:06] <irssi-mike> oops i meant jhile
[02:07] <jhile> irssi-mike, so it is better to follow the nvidia site guide and stop the gui environment and such?
[02:08] <irssi-mike> jhile: to be perfectly honest i used this http://sn0v.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/installing-cuda-5-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[02:08] <irssi-mike> jhile: but i felt like the information was more to the point at the first link
[02:09] <shahan> hey guys just making sure
[02:09] <shahan> using the update manager to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[02:09] <shahan> i keep all personal files right?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> its always a good idea to have backups.
[02:09] <jhile> irssi-mike, sweet ill check them all and see what make most sense to me. nvidia 310m is a card that supports cuda so thats a good first step lol
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> a release upgrade should not touch the users files
[02:10] <shahan> ah crap, well even it goes wrong it's only a couple of venture bros. epsiodes lol, on this partition
[02:11] <shahan> does ubuntu have like a create a restore point thing?
[02:11] <shahan> or backup
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Backups yes restore no
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> !backup | shahan
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> shahan, You can also make clones, I use clonezilla
[02:13] <cfarrier> any  help for a brand new user?
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  its often faster to just do a clean install then do a upgrade
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> !manual | cfarrier
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> !1 on fresh installs
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> +1 lol
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> we love you just the way you are ubottu
[02:14] <shahan> so... wipe everything and install?
[02:14] <shahan> where do you guys keep most of your files on a external?
[02:14] <Random832> home directory, easy to make backups of
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Yes here I have 4 OS.
[02:14] <cfarrier> I'm appreciated, I'm trying to burn an ISO. i'm in 12.04 - tried to give myself root access, using sudo - so that burning a dvd was "ok" but nothing seems to be working
[02:15] <curatrix> cfarrier: unetbootin?
[02:15] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  4 operating systems?
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, sudo should  not be needed, what is the disc
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Yeah.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Err the ISO rather.
[02:17] <cfarrier> whachu mean wilee nilee
[02:17] <cfarrier> you think the iso is bunk?\
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, "I'm trying to burn an ISO" what is it?
[02:17] <shahan> so i just used the update manager..  is that default a clean install?
[02:17] <cfarrier> win7
[02:17] <cfarrier> it doesn't matter what i'm burning though
[02:17] <curatrix> cfarrier: Is it a win7 iso?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Use brasero burn as an image no sudo
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  no.. that would update your system.. whch is differnt then a release upgrade...
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  so what are you doing exactly?
[02:18] <cfarrier> well, i'm 2 hours north of trying that
[02:18] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  it says im installing 12.10 through the update manager
[02:18] <cfarrier> furious ISO mount and k3b
[02:18] <cfarrier> don't work
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Easily put on a usb as well.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> a normal user can burn iso files in ubuntu by default
[02:18] <cfarrier> ah,
[02:18] <cfarrier> well, dr.willis
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> theres even some 'right click on the iso - select burn to disk' add ons.
[02:18] <cfarrier> that's just not the case
[02:19] <curatrix> cfarrier: Use unetbootin and run as root          sudo unetbootin                   this wont work with a winblows ISO though.
[02:19] <cfarrier> I agree, the option is there, but in practice...
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> cfarrier:  my users have not had issues burning ISO files in the past.  dont hunderds of them as a user. no root needed
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> curatrix, using the term winblows is not good etiquette here.
[02:20] <shahan> 3 hours and 31 minutes??!  to upgrade... fuck me!  can i cancel now and start later without waiting for packages?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> !language | shahan
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  if its still downloading - yes..
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  i mentioned how its often faster to do a clean install.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> starting later - will still want to download the packages.  theres also a chance  the upgrade manager has made changes to the system allready so stoping the upgrade may break things
[02:21] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  ahh so with that you'd make a bootable usb with or w.e. with 12.10 and install that way?  choosing the partition again and everything?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  12.10? i would use 13.04 if you want the latest
[02:21] <shahan> yeah i'm at the start upgrade window
[02:22] <newhoa> I'
[02:22] <newhoa> oops...
[02:22] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  oh yeeeah... i have 12.04 currently, so i have to upgrade to 12.10 THEN 13.04  OR  download the inso for 13.04 and clean install, cuz
[02:22] <shahan> it's wayy faster..  lol
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  you do LTS to LTS.. OR each step in between
[02:22] <shahan> *ISO
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> if you want 13.04 - it would definatlybe faster to do a clean install, if you dont need to keep any customizations
[02:23] <genial3> Can I mount a drive so that everyone can write to it, and every new file/dir that gets written to the drive gets the same user:group, no matter the user who wrote it?
[02:23] <newhoa> I'm using gmusicbrowser and while it's great, it doesn't seem to transfer files to mass storage devices. Is there a program that does just that - transfer music from PC to MSC device?
[02:24] <curatrix> genial3: Yes
[02:24] <shahan> Dr_Willis: clean install being from an ISO right? and having to get rid of my current ubuntu 12.04 partition and make a new one for 13.04?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  the installer can reformat the partions
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> boot the cd.. start installer.. tellit to  replace existing ubuntu
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> if you have a seperate /home/ that makes it easier.  your home files wont get trashed then.
[02:25] <genial3> curatrix: Fantastic, would you happen to know which param I should use? Have been trying out uid=nobody,gid=nogroup,umask=0 but can still only write as root
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> genial3:  what filesystem is the drive using?
[02:25] <genial3> Dr_Willis: ext4
[02:25] <shahan> i think i do... how do i know if i have a separate /home/?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> genial3:  i dont think you just override the uid/gid of a ext2/3/4 via fstab options
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  check output of 'mount'
[02:25] <curatrix> genial3: Make a new user group and make all users members of that group ....then set permissions for the drive so that it is owned by the group
[02:26] <genial3> Alright, I'll give that a shot! :)
[02:27] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  "gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/shahan/.gvfs type"
[02:27] <shahan> that's a line from what came up
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  thats not /home/
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> thats your .gvfs in your home
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  if you dont see an entry in fstab or mount outut for /home/ then im guessing you DONT have  a seperate home partition
[02:30] <shahan> Dr_Willis: so i have Eclipse installed on ubuntu right now, anyway i could keep that going to 13.04 whilst doing a clean install?
[02:30] <cfarrier> does anyone have a min. to help a new ubuntu user? I'm having troubles doing basic stuff like burn a disk
[02:31] <cfarrier> when getting root access and sudo dont seem to work, perplexing
[02:31] <curatrix> cfarrier: Is it a linux iso?
[02:31] <cfarrier> no
[02:31] <cfarrier> oh, hi curatrix
[02:31] <curatrix> ;)
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  easier to just reinstall it.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  save your imporantant files to ubuntu one is what i normally do.
[02:32] <qin> cfarrier: why would you want root to burn?
[02:32] <cfarrier> I want to dual boot win8, i'm not tied to an os at the moment, got a brand new pc, been a mac'er
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Windows discs have a lock on them, however brasero run as a regular user should burn it as an image to a dvd, if you want it on a usb I can tell you how easily.
[02:32] <cfarrier> i don't have a need to qin, but k3b and furious both give me permission errors when i try an burn
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> xfburn is rather straight forward burning app.
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Where did you get the ISO?
[02:33] <cfarrier> thanks wilee, but i'm its not happening as a reg user, its just errors
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> k3b is like the all-in-one cd/dvd/burn/other stuff app. ;)
[02:33] <cfarrier> it looks great, i agree
[02:34] <veryhappy> hey guys i'm back for one more question: kdm is getting me started, i used to use this nettop that i have as a desktop pc and server pc but now i want to disable kdm at boot, how can i do this? update-rc.d -f kdm remove doesn't work at all.
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Do to some sort of user error, but well good luck.
[02:34] <cfarrier> which is why its frusterating
[02:34] <shahan> Dr_Willis: thanks for answering all my q's man, so let me get this straight, most people, when upgrading...  or while using ubuntu between upgrades don't  keep files on the same disk as ubuntu?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> shahan, A smart user will have backups off the HD.
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  its handled by upstart i imagine these days. look in /etc/init/ for a kdm.conf file and rename it to be like kdm.dontrun or use the 'text' boot option if you dont want ANY  *dm to run
[02:35] <qin> veryhappy: Do you want to boot to tty or lightdm?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> most hard to say unmeasurable
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  my /home/ partion is on its  own seperate 3TB hard drive. ;)
[02:35] <shahan> wilee-nilee: on the cloud
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  that makes it much easier for me to install a new ubuntu
[02:35] <veryhappy> qin: plain text mode
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I have mine on externals
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> !text | veryhappy
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  that makes it easy ;)
[02:35] <veryhappy> ok
[02:36] <shahan> Dr_Willis: so but the stuff in your home is just files but no like programs... right? you just re download the packages?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> alter the /etc/default/grub and change the 'quiet splash' to be like 'noquiet nosplash nofb text'  and rerun update-grub and it will be the default
[02:36] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  nice, because i have a bigg ass external
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  since they are all updated with each new reelase. it dosent make much sence to 'save' the old installed apps.
[02:37] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  ahhh i noticed that, man i'm learning so much right now
[02:37] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: i'm a little confused now, does noquiet and nosplash like nofb also exist?
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Cool, I also make Installed package list to just run on a fresh install, with saved PPA's and keys, so  fresh install is like an hour at the max.
[02:38] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  but your /home/ is mostly just files, right? like pictures music videos and w/e exe software?
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> noquiet and nosplash = hides the fancy boot gfx so you see the text messages, nofb disables the framebuffer console so you dont get a fancy highres console
[02:38] <veryhappy> ok
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  my own personal software canbe in my home.
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  some of those options may be outdated.  i used them on and off for years.
[02:38] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: haha Dr_Willis kde starts right through
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> shahan, And a favourite package install list to just run.
[02:38] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  woha woha, what? how do that? does it show up on the installer?  so like a list of preferred software to carry from installation to installation?
[02:39] <shahan> *do you do
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  i just make a script that installs what i normally alwyas want.
[02:39] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: so text as a parameter doesn't work at all, sorry man
[02:39] <Dr_Willis>  'sudo apt-get install whatever'
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  'text' should definatly work and keep gdm/kdm/lightdm from loading
[02:39] <Neozonz> how do i automatically add a script to be run after login?
[02:39] <qin> veryhappy: it does. maybe you did not ctrl-x ?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> the other options are optional.
[02:40] <veryhappy> qin: i did... i know how to use the editor btw.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  put it in ~/.config/autostart/ is one way
[02:40] <qin> Dr_Willis: with nofb its like '90 again ;)
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Yeah you can have a list of the extras you use and make one of the installs with "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages"  this can be reloaded to install, depends though on the previous install with a release change for the install list.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> qin:  yep. i still see some framebuffer issues every so often
[02:41] <lduros> is the ubuntu forum going to come back up at some point?
[02:41] <lduros> it's been down for days now...
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Ubuntu loads from repos, so if you add extra repos you want to be sure a new release supports it, and you can save thise and the keys.
[02:42] <Halyard> lduros: 2013-07-26: the forums are up running again and being tested privately by Forum administrators.
[02:42] <Alegreya> lol the forum is still down?
[02:42] <lduros> Halyard: so hopefully soon
[02:42] <lduros> yeh it's still down
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Err that an extra repo like a PPa supports the new install that is.
[02:42] <Neozonz> Dr_Willis, put the script in there?
[02:42] <SunStar> im playing around with a cms script and it needs an ftp account with access to /var/www/xyz   how do i do this? im seeing stuff on how to install vsftp and proftpd, but nothing about how to create a new user and give it access to a subdirectory in my webroot
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> Alegreya, Back up being tested by staff as of now.
[02:43] <vee_> hey guys, every time i try to launch wicd-gtk, it fails saying it was unable to connect to dbus. but dbus has already been started
[02:43] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  i see, basically compatibility?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  put it in ~/.config/autostart/  .. yes
[02:43] <Alegreya> grat e ned new words for the cracking dictionary
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  or a link to it. or a executable file. or a .desktop file
[02:44] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: renaming to kdm.dontrun did the trick, is there any command how i can end kdm when i started it over command...?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  time to read up on upstart ant the 'service' command
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> sudo service servicename stop
[02:45] <newhoa> gtkpod looks interesting... anything like it for MSC/mass storage devices?
[02:45] <veryhappy> haha! didn't work!
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> but since you renamed the kdm.conf  you cant start it that way. ;P
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[02:45] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: it didn't work that way i just can make start kdm but not stop
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  how are you starting kdm?
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Yeah as far as using previous install with a release upgrade, some 3rd party repos have support limitations. Do you know what I mean with PPA?
[02:45] <kostkon> vee_, there should be 2 dbus instances running on your system, the system bus and the session one, i assume wicd tries to connect to the system one.
[02:46] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: ~# kdm
[02:46] <kostkon> damn
[02:46] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  yeah basically programs right? personal package archs?  essentially like... google-chromes comes through this and firefox and eclipse and ccsm?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  then you did NOT start the kdm 'service' you ran kdm. kill it as you would any other app via kill, or other ways
[02:46] <veryhappy> ok
[02:46] <Neozonz> Dr_Willis, i put the .sh script in there made it executable
[02:47] <Neozonz> and it doesnt run..
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> !PPA | shahan  these
[02:47] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: wouldn't there be a way to start and stop kdm as a service but don't make it run on boot?
[02:47] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: that's actually just what i want, keep kdm but don't start it
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  have the script do somthing so you can see if its running, or failing. (make it log somewherem or use the osd-notify command, and it may need to sleep for a few moments to get ran after the desktop is ready.
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  what is the script doing exactly/
[02:48] <qin> veryhappy: sudo service kdm start | stop
[02:48] <Neozonz> running another application
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  the upstart docs mention several ways to 'disable' a service. you may want to look into the override files
[02:48] <Neozonz> calling another executable after setting some env variables
[02:48] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  ohhh so stuf like restricted extras?
[02:48] <veryhappy> qin: if you don't get what i want, please don't write something at all. ok? for next time, thanks
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Restricted extras are in the repos supplied in a install PPA's are 3rd party you add them.
[02:49] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: but why keeps it booting into kdm though i entered update-rc.d -f kdm remove?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  its possible the  shell enviroment is not what you are expecting for the script.   be sure to use full paths, and  have it start with #!/bin/bash if its using bash features
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:   thats the OLD sysv way.. ubuntu uses upstart  now.
[02:49] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: there we go... now i got it
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> upstart has been used now for some years. ;)
[02:50] <kostkon> since around 2009 i think
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> upstart does have a sysv 'emulation' type setup. so many people dont notice the switch
[02:50] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: i just don't seem to get this /etc/init crap "start on ..[]) and stop"
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  read the 'upstart cookbook' web site. its very well done docs on the topic
[02:50] <qin> veryhappy: You want to start kdm as service after booting into text mode: sudo service kdm start; to stop kdm and drop bask to text mode: sudo service kdm stop; did I got it wrong somewhere?
[02:51] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: ok i think that's better...
[02:51] <bouma> hello, i did a mv from ~/videos to a flashdrive, and the flash ran out of space. there are files with the wrong size and files that are zero. how do i know which to remove?
[02:51] <veryhappy> qin: the problem was you didn't get at all that i know how to use the old sysv type and stuff, i just don't know how to manage the /etc/init scripts.
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Basically you want to have access to what ever repo you pulled a install from originally, all have gpg keys generally, so if you save lists you want to be sure you have those extra repos loaded and the keys set.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> things are really going to get fun whenever we switch ubuntu over to that systemd (i think thats the name) system.. ;P
[02:52] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: wasn't systemd outdated or only used on arch linux?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> other disrtos are adopting it.  i think arch was just one of the first.
[02:53] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: nice.
[02:53] <veryhappy> can you give me the link to the upstart cookbook please?
[02:53] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  okay i see, but since i haven't been using 12.04 and ubuntu in general for that long... i may just clean install 13.04 and set a list on software center and let that go overnight lol
[02:54] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: if i still don't get it i'm gonna call for a pizza and switch off my damn pc.
[02:54] <veryhappy> :D
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I would not do unattended installs my self, but thats me.
[02:54] <dangerousice> Hey guys, so I just did a huge noob mistake. I ran the command, find -iname "*.png" -exec mv -v {} ~/Downloads \; and of course it started to move all my png's on my system. I'm taking a chance by asking if there's a way to reverse it even though I'm 99% sure the answer is no?
[02:54] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: the upstart not systemd?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+cookbook&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[02:54] <veryhappy> ok
[02:54] <veryhappy> thanks
[02:54] <qin> veryhappy: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems
[02:54] <jhile> hey i installed the nvidia driver 304, is that more stable than the 319 (tested)
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> first google hit for 'ubuntu cookbook' ;P
[02:55] <shahan> wilee-nilee: i see your point i'll just take anything of value off the disk partition then.
[02:55] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  thanks  alot man and Dr_Willis ! :D
[02:55] <veryhappy> thanks Dr_Willis
[02:55] <Neozonz> still not working...
[02:55] <veryhappy> qin: what shall i start with ... Comparison ...
[02:55] <Neozonz> why is this so complicated, i just want t run an SH script upon login
[02:55] <Neozonz> >_<
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I use the terminal and I install synaptic, synaptic has a history in case you want to remove stuff and need a histiry, there are other histories on board as well.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Good luck.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  i have several scripts in my autostart dir that run when i loging to my X desktop
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  they are very simple scripts however.
[02:57] <shahan> Will|: ah yeah i have synaptic, i've been looking for something like windows 7's control panel and install/uninstall programs
[02:57] <shahan> still have wrap my head around this 'packages' thing xD
[02:57] <Neozonz> what is the exec line u use in autostart?
[02:57] <shahan> wilee-nilee: *
[02:57] <shahan> *to wrap
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  most of them i do start with 'sleep 20' so they always start after the desktop is up and running and settled down.
[02:57] <Neozonz> is it bash /path/scriptname.sh ?
[02:57] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: ok thanks, Dr_Willis i'm gonna try it out now, take care.
[02:57] <Neozonz> or is it /path/scriptname.sh
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> shahan, You will figure it out. ;)
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  if its ececutable you dont need the bash part. if the first line is correct.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz: example here.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis>  pastebinit start_conky
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5920429/
[02:58] <pvl1> how do i stop apt from install recommended by default
[02:58] <Neozonz> ok added a sleep line
[02:58] <Neozonz> this better work
[02:58] <Neozonz> >_<
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Why would you need to.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  or you could give details like posting the script...
[02:59] <Neozonz> its very simple
[02:59] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: trying to make a minimalist custom livecd
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Ah, I forgot.
[02:59] <pvl1> lol
[02:59] <pvl1> :)
[02:59] <Neozonz> #!/bin/bash
[02:59] <Neozonz> sleep 20
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> I'm lucky to remember my own name
[03:00] <Neozonz> export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
[03:00] <pvl1> i sometimes remember my birthday, so its ok i can relate
[03:00] <Neozonz> /home/username/cgminer/cgminer
[03:01] <shahan> how much space does Ubuntu One give you?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  5gb
[03:01] <curatrix> shahan: four cubic meters ;)
[03:01] <flick> what are some nice 3D applications that i can show off. i remember in old days there were some stunning screensavers...
[03:02] <flick> games, demos
[03:02] <qin> flick: fgfs (flight gear)
[03:02] <shahan> look google wants to give us free cloudspace, so does ubuntu, why can't we just get one amalgamate all the free cloudpsace one user can get.
[03:02] <curatrix> Urban Terror is pretty good
[03:03] <Alegreya> TF2
[03:03] <qin> CS1.6
[03:04] <Alegreya> hahah
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  you can toss in a 'notify-send "Starting your thing in 20 sec"' in your script to be sure its actually getting launched.
[03:04] <chalcedony`> *hugs* Dr_Willis :)
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  i think theres some fuse tools for that. ;)
[03:04] <cfarrier> hmm can't see any files in UNetbootin
[03:04] <cfarrier> anyone know why?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> !find bb
[03:04] <chalcedony`> how long should it take to install ubuntu 13.04 from a cd? (it seems to be taking forever!)
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> flick:  check out 'bb'
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> chalcedony`, depends on your download speed and if you tick updates,
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony`:  since its been out for a bit. theres more updates for it to download  at teh start. so its a trade off. :) you want to be up to date when you are installed..or wait later
[03:06] <cfarrier> I failed burning a win8 ISO to a dvd...so i'm trying to get a USB working
[03:06] <cfarrier> got Unetbootin, but it doesn't see any of my files, what gives
[03:07] <flick> checking out - installed - running - gibberish coming on screen
[03:07] <chalcedony`> he started at 10:35, it's 11:05, he did not tick install updates
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> you can 'dd' the windows8 iso straight to usb i thought.  you may want to check in #windows to verify that
[03:07] <cfarrier> dd?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, is easy if you want help, I never use unetbootin on a MS iso.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> !dd
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> usb*
[03:07] <flick> oh huh. strange patterns - how cool is that
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> dd = a fancy tool to image  data.
[03:07] <cfarrier> willee- love some help
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> flick:  keep watching ;P
[03:07] <chalcedony`> er he's installing 13.04 alongside 12.04 LTS .. so that migh take longer
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, I format the usb as a ntfs with a bootflag and extract the iso using archive manager with a right click on the iso.
[03:09] <cfarrier> ok, i'll use Gparted. and give that a go
[03:09] <chalcedony`> Dr_Willis, is there some average time for that, to see if it's working?
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Yeah just make it a ntfs and add the boot flag there then exstract to the usb with the archive manager.
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony`:  never really noticed.   I tend to install when first released. so  theres not a lot of updates
[03:10] <chalcedony`> he didn't click  updates
[03:11] <chalcedony`> i think we want to see if it works, then do that
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony`:  then about 20-30 min is a normal install for me with no updates, from a usb i recall..
[03:11] <cfarrier> how do i add the boot flag
[03:11] <chalcedony`> from DVD
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> gparted has a manage flags menu item cfarrier
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Goarted has a right click add flags to partitikons
[03:11] <StarOnD> Hello I want to upgrade my libboost to 1.53 from 1.49, how can I do this ?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> bad spelling sorry
[03:12] <pvl1> so uh anyone know how to disable recommended install within apt
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> StarOnD, Looks like a downgrade.
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> doh missed the wording my bad
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> libboost1.53  is the current here it seems
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> StarOnD, You have a source to the upgrade?
[03:13] <flick> bb is not playing any sound though it seemed it said it would when it started
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> !info libboost
[03:13] <flick> i need to check if my sound system is working
[03:13] <StarOnD> I mean to go rom 1.49 to 1.53, this packages > libboost-all-dev
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> seems the repos have both versions..  if im looking at the info correctly
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> libboost1.49-all-dev  libboost1.53-all-dev
[03:14] <x_> Hi all. Does anyone know how to indent a block of code in gedit?
[03:15] <curatrix> x_: ins key (insert)
[03:15] <curatrix> x_: Then space
[03:16] <x_> curatrix: I did tab after but that worked too
[03:16] <x_> curatrix: Thanks!!!
[03:16] <curatrix> ;)
[03:23] <EmmEight> whats the word with the forums?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> EmmEight, Same here as the splash.
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> no exact date of opening again, but up and running being tested by staff.
[03:24] <EmmEight> Any word on who the attacker is?
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> EmmEight, All that info is linked to the splash
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> EmmEight, #ubuntuforums would be the place to discuss. ;)
[03:27] <qin> insync vs grive? or someone had mercy and there is proper client.
[03:37] <jpmh> I am running rsync to backup = on my laptop I have my home directory encrypted and the direvtory where this is happening is beneath my home. On my office system I do not encrypt home but use encfs for things I want encryped.  It appears that the rsync is MANY times faster with encfs than the encrypted home dir.  Does this make sense?
[03:38] <j0elo> join #ubuntu
[03:40] <StarOnD> how can I add a directory to the PYTHONPATH?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/path/to/new/dir     perhaps? thats how it works for the bash paths.
[03:46] <shasten> hello
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[03:51] <shasten> So, I am using Ubuntu Ultimate Edition, and I like it but it seems to be a little buggy, and I am not sure why.
[03:52] <shasten> I was wondering if maybe on of you fine gents knew anything about Ultimate Edition.
[03:52] <Pici> !ultimate
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> id say avoide it and stickto normal ubuntu shasten
[04:01] <tdrusk> I need help getting my fn keys to work. Currently, it seems only sound works. Toshiba Satellite. lspci http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=54nQm5fJ
[04:08] <CovertOps> hello i am having an issue with ubuntu 13.04 and the HDMI output. video and sound quality are very poor.
[04:09] <CovertOps> is anyone familiar with the intel-linux-graphics-installer?
[04:12] <harder> hello
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> CovertOps, this, http://imagebin.org/265777
[04:13] <CovertOps> yeah
[04:13] <CovertOps> it keeps failing
[04:13] <CovertOps> something wicked happened when trying to resolve ppa.launchpad.net
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> CovertOps, Hmm, well when I ran mine on a toshiba a205 s5818 I had no problems, not sure here to be honest, what are the errors?
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> CovertOps, Might try checking your sources list and maybe a repo change is needed.
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> CovertOps, How does a standard update go?
[04:16] <harder> alguien habla español?
[04:16] <CovertOps> usually goes through fine
[04:17] <CovertOps> if i do apt-get update --fix-missing i get the same error as the installer
[04:17] <CovertOps> actually video appears to work fine now
[04:17] <CovertOps> not sure what fixed it
[04:18] <iLogical> Should I be concerned that I have a ssh-process running, which I can't kill using sudo killall -9 ssh-agent?
[04:18] <iLogical> I don't remember ever installing this daemon
[04:19] <DWSR> iLogical: It's installed as part of the openssh package.
[04:20] <DWSR> iLogical: And it's not really anything to worry about normally, though the fact that you can't kill it is somewhat odd.
[04:20] <DWSR> iLogical: It's used as a keyring for ssh identities.
[04:20] <iLogical> I can't kill it with the said command
[04:20] <iLogical> :/
[04:21] <DWSR> did you try killing it by pid?
[04:21] <iLogical> I tried to kill, stop and end it using system monitor
[04:22] <iLogical> but nothing
[04:23] <guzzlefry> Is ssh-agent something that would would restart once killed?
[04:24] <guzzlefry> err
[04:24] <guzzlefry> Is ssh-agent something that would restart once killed?
[04:24] <IdleOne> probably not
[04:25] <guzzlefry> iLogical: ps -eaf | grep ssh
[04:25] <guzzlefry> Does it show it as <defunct>?
[04:26] <iLogical> guzzlefry, yes,  user      5548  5493  0 Jul27 ?        00:00:00 [ssh-agent] <defunct> /n   user     15887 15772  0 01:25 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto ssh
[04:27] <guzzlefry> iLogical: yes, that's what happens when I try to kill it as well. So that's normal.
[04:27] <guzzlefry> As to why, I'm not sure.
[04:28] <iLogical> ok thanks
[04:29] <guzzlefry> iLogical: Logging out then back in should fix it.
[04:29] <guzzlefry> It's process is under gnome-session.
[04:29] <guzzlefry> iLogical: run pstree to check that out.
[04:32] <iLogical> guzzlefry, kthanks brb
[04:34] <vlt000> Hello All!
[04:35] <hewhomust> hi vlt
[04:35] <vlt000> I am currently running lubuntu 12.04 and I regularly upgrade to the latest kernel --- I am currently running, 3.10.0-031000rc7-generic. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with pointing to the latest repo's, saucy at this time, and running an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade with success?
[04:36] <hewhomust> you want to get the latest kernel?
[04:36] <holstein> vlt000: that is not the latest 12.04 kernel
[04:36] <vlt000> I know.
[04:36] <vlt000> I run mainline kernels as it usually fixes things.
[04:36] <cmck193> Need some assistance.  I installed xubuntu 13.04 and don't have sound.  I have a HDA intel hd
[04:37] <holstein> !sound | cmck193
[04:37] <vlt000> I am running 3.10rc7 on 12.04 as it fixed a few things.
[04:37] <holstein> vlt000: it can also break things.. and its not supported
[04:37] <holstein> vlt000: if its working for you, and solving an issue, thats great
[04:37] <excelsiora> How do you invert colors in unity?
[04:37] <hewhomust> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ this has all the kernels just pick one and download the kernel headers image then put them into a folder and run dpkg on them
[04:38] <vlt000> I thought about pointing to the latest repo's ... I was wondering if anyone had any experience with it.
[04:38] <vlt000> So, instead of running a distro upgrade ... I wanted to just point to the latest repo's to get more recent software versions.
[04:38] <hewhomust> oh i thought you just wanted kernel
[04:39] <hewhomust> well you can always get ppas
[04:39] <vlt000> Yeah, I have the kernel part down
[04:39] <holstein> vlt000: you dont.. if you want 13.04, you should install, or upgrade to it.. if you want 13.10
[04:39] <hewhomust> sorry lol
[04:39] <holstein> !13.10
[04:39] <holstein> vlt000: if you want to piece together something on your own, thats fine as well, but you will be on your own with it
[04:40] <vlt000> I have modified a few things which is why I don't really want to run an upgrade on it.
[04:40] <vlt000> I really should just make my own distro...
[04:40] <excelsiora> So is it possible to invert colors in unity? Or was that only before Unity? My screen is too bright and my dimmer doesn't work.
[04:40] <hewhomust> well just go into, /etc/apt/sources.list and just add raring instead of precise
[04:40] <vlt000> hewhomust --- that is what I was thinking...
[04:40] <hewhomust> then run update and upgrade
[04:41] <vlt000> So, will that replace any changes under /etc/ or /usr/share that I have made?
[04:41] <holstein> vlt000: you should have backups
[04:41] <vlt000> Yeah, I did a full backup yesterday...
[04:42] <vlt000> Well, I think I shouldn't undertake this tonight... I will do it and pop back in here to let you know how it goes...
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> easier ways to do that, that are safer lol.
[04:42] <vlt000> Matt Willy?
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> I am carnac. ;)
[04:45] <vlt000> bye everyone... I will be back...
[04:46] <flick> okay
[04:46] <nadorman> nk
[04:46] <nadorman> hi
[05:08] <chalcedony`> my husband is getting the same error with 13.04
[05:09] <chalcedony`> you have no idea how frustrated he is
[05:09] <chalcedony`> can it be hardware related?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: can you please explain whats happening exactly?
[05:13] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, i'll try, thanks so much for answering :)
[05:14] <chalcedony`> "verifying DMI Pool Data.. and then the eroror
[05:14] <chalcedony`> "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: does your computer have an older graphics card?
[05:15] <chalcedony`> over and over,  he downloaded 13.04, 3 hours, and then installed it with 12.04 .. another hour etc
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: he upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 and got the low graphics trouble?
[05:16] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, he had 12.04 working, we went away for a few days, came back and got that error
[05:17] <chalcedony`> he upgraded to 13.04
[05:17] <qubozik> Is firefox laggy for anyone else? Just switched back to it from Chrome a couple months ago. For some reason it seem slaggy on Ubuntu 13.04. Works fine when running Windows on the same machine. Same extensions etc. Anyone have lag issues?
[05:17] <chalcedony`> we went home and got another hard drive
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: well sometimes it can help clean install 13.04
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: you can also try holding shift at boot, enter grub and try the failsafeX from recoverymode
[05:18] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, it's a different hard drive and new cd install of 12.04 / 13.04
[05:19] <chalcedony`> darn cord. - got disconnected when i let him read that
 lotuspsychje, it's a different hard drive and new cd install of 12.04 / 13.04
[05:22] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, it's not letting him get to recovery mode
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: howso?
[05:23] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, it starts to boot but the text is all squished up.. the it oges to Verifying dmi pool data ,purple screen and messed up text
[05:23] <chalcedony`> then the errors
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: did you try hold shift at boot for entering grub?
[05:24] <chalcedony`> he's going to try it, moment
[05:26] <kyan> hi
[05:26] <kyan> if i install ubuntu on 32bit
[05:26] <kyan> will it see my 8gb ram?
[05:26] <chalcedony`> grr
[05:26] <Beatstreet> yes
[05:26] <chalcedony`> it's doing  memtest 86
[05:27] <kyan> sure?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Kyan`: he just told you yes
[05:28] <Kyan`> kk
[05:28] <Kyan`> i'll go install it
[05:28] <Kyan`> thanx :D
[05:28] <Kyan`> bye
[05:37] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[05:37] <sonofzeus> When I try to write a iso file to a flash drive on ubuntu it says cannot create regular file permission denied.
[05:38] <nomicos> Hey guys. I use wvdial to connect through my USB modem, but the notification bar icon shows there's no connection. How do I fix that?
[05:39] <sonofzeus> anyone?
[05:44] <ubuntu76> hi all i needed help with this error on my graphics card
[05:44] <ubuntu76> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)   Major opcode of failed request:  153 (GLX)   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)   Serial number of failed request:  12   Current serial number in output stream:  12
[05:45] <ubuntu76> how would i fix this issue this is what i get when i type fglrxinfo
[05:46] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[05:46] <sonofzeus> Can anyone help me?
[05:47] <Equinox3> sonofzeus: whats the problem
[05:47] <ubuntu76> Hi can anyone help me with ati video issue
[05:47] <sonofzeus> When I try to cp an iso to my usb drive it says: cannot create regular file permission denied
[05:48] <ubuntu76> im trying to get at least open gl driver to show
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> sonofzeus, What ISO?
[05:48] <sonofzeus> debian iso
[05:48] <Equinox3> sonofzeus: are you sure the usb isn't locked or something
[05:48] <sonofzeus> the write protection is off
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> sonofzeus, debian I believe has a loader
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> or use unetbootin
[05:49] <sonofzeus> nah
[05:49] <Equinox3> are you trying to copy or use it as a live boot
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> sonofzeus, Two options, can you elaborate your goal here in the end.
[05:50] <sonofzeus> Im following this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en
[05:50] <sonofzeus> cp debian.iso /dev/sdX
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> sonofzeus, What OS are you doing this in?
[05:51] <sonofzeus> ubuntu
[05:51] <sonofzeus> I want to put debian on a spare laptop
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> unetbootin would load it I would thin k
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> or the multisystem loader at pendrivelinux I know would I have used it on debian
[05:53] <Equinox3> sonofzeus: sdX refers to a drive like sd1, sd2. i think you're supposed to find the one for your flash drive
[05:53] <sonofzeus> Yeah i know that
[05:53] <sonofzeus> It still doesnt work anyways
[05:54] <Equinox3> ah
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> sdX is the usb without a partition
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> or the mbr if there is one
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> its just the usb
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> anyway good luck gotta go
[05:55] <Equinox3> tried copying anything else
[05:58] <BillyZane> hi, something strange is happening. I use Ubuntu 13.04, and i'm running gnome system monitor and xfce's task manager and both of them say that my CPU useage is fluctuating between 35% and 90%, but when i see the processes running and the amount each take, they both say 0% for all and 2% for one of them
[06:07] <smaug42_> BillyZane: try opening a terminal and running top
[06:07] <BillyZane> ok
[06:08] <BillyZane> damn it i knew it, boinc is running!!!
[06:08] <BillyZane> i thought boinc doesn't run unless i have the manager on
[06:08] <BillyZane> it's doing all this stuff in secret, wtf
[06:09] <smaug42_> BillyZane: can't help you there.  I've never ran boinc.  It's prob set to launch as a daemon... a service
[06:09] <BillyZane> yeah i believe so
[06:10] <BillyZane> thanks smaug42_
[06:10] <BillyZane> smaug42_++
[06:10] <smaug42_> BillyZane: this page explains the pref settings  http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Preferences
[06:11] <BillyZane> oh well, i installed it because i wanted to contribute to it
[06:11] <BillyZane> my PC is so fast, i wouldn't even notice a slow dow
[06:11] <BillyZane> down
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> BillyZane: 2-3 years from now your pc will just barely be midrange...
[06:13] <BillyZane> yup
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> truth is nothing is ever fast enough for long
[06:14] <BillyZane> that's a fact of moore's law
[06:14] <BillyZane> but, in those few years, i'll have a very fast PC and i'll be able to enjoy my computing experience
[06:15] <BillyZane> and eventually, i'll retire this PC as a secondary computer
[06:15] <BillyZane> like my old one serves me now
[06:16] <aeon-ltd> heh even with moore's law, it's a gamble on whether to jump on onto intel's tick or tock considering socket changes are now frequent
[06:16] <BillyZane> yeah it is
[06:16] <BillyZane> i have a 3770k
[06:17] <BillyZane> my old PC was a pentium 4 single core 3.2ghz that i used for over 7 years
[06:18] <krz> hi
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> hi
[06:18] <BillyZane> hi krz
[06:18] <BillyZane> aeon-ltd, are you familiar with qemu by any chance?
[06:19] <krz> i just plugged a usb stick. how so i start copying files into it via the terminal?
[06:19] <BillyZane> krz, are you trying to get in to the USB stick's directory?
[06:19] <BillyZane> i believe it's in /media
[06:19] <krz> BillyZane: yeap
[06:20] <krz> thanks BillyZane
[06:20] <BillyZane> you're welcome
[06:20] <BillyZane> ^ that was the first time i was able to help someone in here
[06:20] <BillyZane> i'm a huge n00b
[06:22] <gordonjcp> BillyZane: everyone is learning, all the time.  Unless they're dead, of course
[06:23] <BillyZane> true
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> BillyZane: qemu not really, but i've played around in vms a little
[06:25] <BillyZane> aeon-ltd, oh it's cool
[06:28] <Minniti> Hello have someone online
[06:29] <holstein> Minniti: ask if you have a question, and a volunteer may respond with an answer
[06:30] <Minniti> hello holstein, i'm new on linux, irc.. and i want know, what are the best channels
[06:30] <Minniti> you know:?
[06:30] <Minniti> man i'm totally newb sorry
[06:31] <Minniti> but i like that
[06:33] <Minniti> =/
[06:34] <zeest> Does Ubuntu keep a log of all commands executed in the terminal?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> zeest: i dont think so mate
[06:35] <smaug42_> zeest: open a terminal... type history
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> oh it does
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> my bad
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> smaug42_: tnx for nice tip
[06:36] <smaug42_> it's stored in the file .bash_history in your home
[06:36] <zeest> Cool, it does go back far enough. I couldn't remember the command I used earlier that worked. Thank you smaug42_
[06:37] <zeest> Does it have a max size?
[06:37] <smaug42_> When you look through teh hsitory... see the numbers?  you want a specific command that's way back inyour history, note the numebr and type: !!67 (where 67 is teh number of the command you want to repeat)
[06:38] <zeest> That is also very nice.
[06:38] <smaug42_> zeest: it depends on what window environ, and what temrinal settings.  Most are default set to 1000 lines
[06:38] <zeest> Ah, ok
[06:38] <smaug42_> you can set to unlimited if you want
[06:38] <smaug42_> or none at all
[06:39] <zeest> I think 1,000 is plenty. In 3 days I am only to 850
[06:40] <timfrost> zeest: the maximum bash history size is configurable.  I have 'HISTSIZE=1000' and 'HISTFILESIZE=2000' in my bash environment.  The terminal scrollback is independent of those
[06:40] <smaug42_> wait, i'm thinking scrollback... I've never thought about lines in history....
[06:40] <smaug42_> ah, timfrost corrected me... thanks
[06:42] <roboto> for some reason using samba shares my network files have server icons. I'm trying to connect to Synology DSM 4.2 DS212j with ubuntu 13.04. I think I have tried almost everything...no change
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:45] <roboto> I would be laughing to if I didn't get <Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection refused> everytime I tried to access a file on my NAS
[06:56] <_tockitj> anyone here from africa? I'm interested on how does commodity hardware behave in env temperatures between 30-50C
[06:56] <rubino123> how can I search for just executables from the command line?
[06:56] <Nimble> depends on if your device normally heats up to near it's max temperature or not
[06:57] <Nimble> if you have a desktop with your parts overclocked to the limit going into an environment like that will reduce the cooling ability of your heat sinks
[06:57] <Nimble> same goes for laptops
[06:58] <Nimble> most hardware runs well above 50 C under load
[06:58] <Nimble> but it becomes harder to cool it as the ambient temperature rises
[06:59] <_tockitj> Nimble, electronic parts usually declare temperatures under which whey will fail - but actually even slighter higher *environmental* temperature (like +10C) is going to reduce effectiveness of heat sinks dramatically
[07:00] <_tockitj> so in effect it will cause the heat to buildup on heat producers (like cpu/memory) and cause them to fail
[07:00] <_tockitj> I think that current hardware does not work very well in that part of the world
[07:01] <_tockitj> thing is - my hw is going to be subjected to similar conditions, so I was wondering if there is anyone here from hotter part of the world :)
[07:02] <timfrost> rubino123: if you are using the find command, the options '-type f -a -executable' should work (-executable will pick up directories as well as files)
[07:04] <timfrost> rubino123: try '-and' rather than '-a'
[07:04] <krz> anyone using linux mint?
[07:04] <tigrang> krz: i am
[07:04] <krz> thought  this would be the right channel to ask, since its based on ubuntu
[07:04] <tigrang> krz: mint has its own server/chanel
[07:05] <krz> tigrang: so mint uses packages from ubuntu right?
[07:05] <amarsaini> how to calibrate laptop screen on 12.04
[07:06] <amarsaini> my screen screen doesnot show correct white color
[07:06] <amarsaini> its dull
[07:06] <amarsaini> bit towards red
[07:06] <amarsaini> how to get correct white color
[07:06] <amarsaini> using ubuntu 12.04
[07:09] <shahan> guys just installed 13.04 and can't log into main account....  only just plays the drum sound..... but can log into guest
[07:10] <shahan> oh god and now i've switched to .. 'require no password to log in, automatic log in'  and now i can't authenticate anything... FFF
[07:11] <kevdog> I'll ask a stupid question that's probably been asked 1000 times.  When are forums going to be back up?
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> kevdog: unless something happened in the last 24hours, the answer is they will be up when they are up
[07:13] <kevdog> Figured that would be the response
[07:13] <kevdog> Nothing to enlightening then.
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> kevdog: if you need support, here and other linux forums can be useful until the forums are back up
[07:14] <kevdog> Hey anyone know of any extension, add on, app etc, that would stop the automatic saving of drafts in Gmail when composed in the browser?
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> kevdog, we know no more than the splash at the website reveals.
[07:14] <shahan> i can't log into my main account!
[07:14] <shahan> just does nothing and plays login sound
[07:14] <shahan> can login to guest though
[07:15] <shahan> please help
[07:15] <kevdog> I was hoping for you super top secret inside information from the crowd here ;)
[07:15] <timfrost> !patience |  shahan
[07:15] <shahan> JUSt installed 13.04
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> kevdog, Don't tell anyone but elvis returns for the next presidential race.
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> kevdog: 99% of the users here are just regular users
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> kevdog, I know you from the forums do I kid, ;)
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> so*
[07:17] <kevdog> Where is those damn one percenters?
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> afk
[07:17] <Zah_> do-release-upgrade fails to find any new releases running on Ubuntu 12.10.
[07:18] <Zah_> Does anyone have any debugging tips?
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Go to software sources and set i to all releases and try the update-upgrade gui.
[07:18] <Zah_> The system is otherwise up to date. Both do-release-upgrade and do-release-upgrade -d have been tried with full root priviledges
[07:19] <Zah_> wilee-nilee: Does this have a CLI equivalent?
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> shahan, What desktop, have you tried logging in in a tty and then startx?
[07:19] <kevdog> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that?
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, I would have to look it up on the web I fresh install always, but know some don't set the all releases and have problems
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, You have no X
[07:20] <timfrost> kevdog: try 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
[07:21] <kevdog> @timfrost: really?
[07:24] <Zah_> Zah_: Not readily available.
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Here is various methods and info, might help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/279620/how-do-i-upgrade-from-12-10-to-13-04
[07:24] <Zah_> Damn tab.
[07:24] <timfrost> kevdog: oops. I was mis-targeting a message that I now see that wouldn't have helped Zah_
[07:26] <timfrost> Zah_: did you run the do-release-upgrade commands as root (or using sudo)?
[07:26] <Zah_> Yep
[07:28] <kevdog> night guys
[07:30] <timfrost> Zah_: can you !pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:30] <Zah_> I'm tempted to just modify /etc/sources.list to use the repositories for 13.04
[07:30] <Zah_> I've heard this is not recommended, but never the reason why.
[07:32] <auronandace> Zah_: silly question: did you try sudo apt-get update before trying the do-release-upgrade ?
[07:32] <Zah_> Yep. Upgraded the kernel as well.
[07:32] <timfrost> Zah_: There are configuration settings that are not guaranteed to be correctly updated if you don't do the release upgrades correctly
[07:33] <Zah_> Do you know which settings they might be?
[07:33] <Zah_> Or where I can find more information
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Is this a server?
[07:35] <Zah_> It is not the server edition of Ubuntu.
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, What is is exactly?
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> it*
[07:36] <Zah_> according to `cat /etc/lsb-release`: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Is this a release by another like mint ZorinOS or something?
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> or other ubuntu derivative
[07:39] <Zah_> Nope, plain-vanilla Ubuntu.
[07:39] <Zah_> Ah, this is hopeless. I'm going to hack /etc/apt/sources.list.
[07:39] <Zah_> I'll let you all know how it goes ;).
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Cool the others have additional repos is all.
[07:43] <hewhomust> could someone please tell me the offtopic channel name
[07:43] <llutz> !ot
[07:43] <hewhomust> thx
[07:47] <lemonsparrow> I am running ubuntu 10.10 is there a way I can upgrade to 12.04 without losing my data... ??
[07:48] <lemonsparrow> I mean not having to format and all that... just update via terminal or something like that /?
[07:50] <aeon-ltd> lemonsparrow: jumping ahead 3 version? how much data do you have?
[07:50] <lemonsparrow> aeon-ltd:quite a few... and github private keys and stuffs
[07:50] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: it would be very very tedious and not worth the effort, better to just backup what you need fresh install and then restore your data
[07:50] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: can I use windows installer ?
[07:51] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: wubi is getting abandoned
[07:52] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: oh,..so whats the best wat
[07:52] <lemonsparrow> way*
[07:52] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: I mean in my lappy now I have both windows and ubuntu 10.10 I had installed 10.10 using windows installer so how can I remove it now through windows and then install 12.04 LTS using windows ?
[07:52] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: installing like normal (from a cd/dvd or usb)
[07:53] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: dont have one
[07:53] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: you don't (unless you want to put it in a vm in windows)
[07:53] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: so what should I do now considering internet being my only source for ubuntu now ?
[07:54] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: get a usb stick
[07:54] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: isnt my machine 32 bit ?
[07:54] <lemonsparrow> $ file /sbin/init /sbin/init: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[07:54] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: and ?
[07:54] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: and install via usb
[07:54] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: hmm good idea
[07:55] <auronandace> !usb | lemonsparrow
[07:55] <lemonsparrow> ubottu: but first I need information on how to remove existing ubuntu 10.10 from windows 7
[07:56] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: what you just posted only shows that that specific binary is 32bit
[07:56] <paul5> ciao a tutti
[07:56] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: use the add/remove programs thingy
[07:56] <paul5> !list
[07:56] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: All this is assuming that you didn't use Wubi, if you did all you have to do is go to Add/Remove programs or whatever it is in Windows 7, find Ubuntu, and uninstall it like you would any other program.
[07:57] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: be sure to backup what you need first
[07:57] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: ok but need to backup first
[07:57] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: and then I would use wubi again for 13.04
[07:57] <weizhao> how to create a web server in c? anyone give me a tutorial
[07:57] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: no
[07:57] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: hey which is the most stable version now ?>
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> weizhao: go to #c
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> weizhao: ##c
[07:57] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: wubi is being abandoned, don't use it period
[07:57] <weizhao> ##
[07:57] <weizhao> ##c
[07:58] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: 10.10 isnt any longer supported :(
[07:58] <robertzaccour> How do I set my sound to hdmi output? I don't see it in the settings.
[07:58] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: up to you what you want: 12.04 lts or 13.04 (current release)
[07:58] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: cant even install mysql
[07:58] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: and how to get ubuntu image into usb?
[07:59] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: the support terms are very clear, its your responsibility to have upgraded when you could have
[07:59] <auronandace> !usb | lemonsparrow
[07:59] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: it still asks me to upgrade to 11.04 in update manager
[08:00] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: but then when I try to do so it says network issue or something and fails... although network is fine
[08:00] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: Fetching the upgrade failed. There may be a network problem.
[08:01] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/52793/do-release-upgrade-stopped-and-couldnt-re-run
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> lemonsparrow, The standard repos do not contain the upgrade from 10.10, it is end of life.
[08:02] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: look at the topic, those are the supported releases
[08:03] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: the release you are attempting to upgrade from isn't supported or the release you are trying to upgrade to
[08:03] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: wilee-nilee this is what I get now on apt-get update http://pastie.org/private/qjmrhteb8rhrbhmr0kieza
[08:03] <robertzaccour> How do I set my sound to hdmi output? I don't see it in the settings.
[08:03] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: can I update the repo links and have a work around ?
[08:04] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: i've already told you what you should do: backup what you need then fresh install (either 12.04 or 13.04)
[08:05] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: ok I know I need to do that sooner or later but for now I can get my work done if I am able to install mysql but this is the log I get when I try install mysql http://pastie.org/8183125
[08:05] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: the repos are no longer there because 10.10 is NO LONGER SUPPORTED
[08:06] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: ok.. so no choice :( got it
[08:06] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: maverick is dead
[08:06] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: install 12.04 LTS
[08:06] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: should have installed mysql long back in 10;10 lol
[08:06] <lemonsparrow> gordonjcp: yep
[08:06] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: you should have upgraded long ago
[08:06] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: that wouldn't help, because it's still outdated and no longer supported
[08:07] <lemonsparrow> gordonjcp: hmm
[08:08] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: this is a thing that people coming from Windows sometimes run afoul of; XP has been around since before Ubuntu even existed
[08:08] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: in fact, I think XP came out about the same time as Debian 2.2
[08:08] <lemonsparrow> gordonjcp: hmm
[08:09] <llutz> gordonjcp: between potatoe and woody, but xp is still supported ...
[08:09] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: you're expected to do stuff like keep backups and a separate /home partition, so it's (relatively) easy to replace the OS and maintain continuity
[08:10] <lemonsparrow> gordonjcp: hmm
[08:10] <gordonjcp> llutz: it was 13 years ago or so, I can't remember quite what I was doing 13 days ago these days
[08:10] <timfrost> lemonsparrow: check out old-releases.ubuntu.com, because that may have the unsupported intermediate releases that you need to use in the upgrade sequence
[08:10] <lemonsparrow> u guys donating ? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[08:10]  * gordonjcp supports Ubuntu in various ways
[08:10] <reisio> llutz: "supported", for a whole 'nother year
[08:12] <gordonjcp> reisio: heh
[08:12] <gordonjcp> when XP came out Pentium II and AMD K6 chips were current
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> lemonsparrow, The majority of development is done for free and all this support is as well, your asking the wrong people if they donate money, we donate out time, which mine in my own business is $100 per hr
[08:13] <gordonjcp> I paid some scandalous amount of money for a K6-2/500 at the time
[08:13] <lemonsparrow> wilee-nilee: thats awesome
[08:13] <gordonjcp> now I use embedded microcontrollers that are the size of my fingernail, take 4W to run, and cost less than a tin of beer
[08:14] <gordonjcp> and still outperform my K6-2/500
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> but i'm guessing they aren't x86 like the k6
[08:15] <gordonjcp> no, ARM
[08:15] <gordonjcp> man give me 80W worth of ARM to replace this bloody Core 2 Duo
[08:16] <gordonjcp> massively massively multiprocessor desktops with 20 cores?  Oh yeah...
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> wouldn't help
[08:16] <robertzaccour> Ok I figured it out
[08:16] <robertzaccour> thanks for nothin
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> no one runs that many things in parallel, nor is anything written to take advantage of 20 cpu cores
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> yet
[08:17] <gordonjcp> aeon-ltd: I do a lot of compiling
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> clusters!
[08:21] <anonymous_> good morning every anon
[08:22] <anonymous_> hi
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: morning what can we do for you?
[08:23] <anonymous_> talk to me
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: you can use #ubuntu-offtopic for regular chatting
[08:23] <anonymous_> what meaning that
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: meaning this channel here is for ubuntu support questions
[08:25] <anonymous_> and what is aprolblem
[08:27] <anonymous_> can i ask help please
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: yes if its ubuntu problem
[08:28] <anonymous_> first how are you
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !ask | anonymous_
[08:30] <anonymous_> ok man i like to be anonymous can i
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> what can we do for you
[08:34] <LeonWP> hi
[08:34] <anonymous_> hi anon
[08:34] <LeonWP> is ubuntu working on a fix for CVE-2013-4854?
[08:35] <LeonWP> all i could find was http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-4854.html but nothing in launchpad
[08:36] <LeonWP> wondering if it's useful if I report it into launchpad or if it's being taken care of already
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> LeonWP: maybe this can help? http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> LeonWP: there's an email to contact on security issues
[08:43] <japanized> hi
[08:44] <japanized> how can i play the mp3 format?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !mp3 | japanized
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> japanized: installing vlc can help you out aswell
[08:46] <raven_> how to adjust cpu frequency?
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> raven_: in bios
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !info psensor | raven_
[08:47] <guillaume_> bonjour
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !fr | guillaume_
[08:47] <raven_> how to adjust cpu frequency in 13.04 (there is no jupiter applet any more)
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> raven_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296653/ubuntu-13-04-cpu-frequency-scaling-stuck-on-lowest-frequency
[08:50] <japanized> ubottu is a bot?
[08:50] <japanized> you're very kind
[08:52] <anonymous_> fix fix fix
[08:52] <japanized> vlc? is that music player?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: please stop that, this channel is for ubuntu questions only
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !info vlc | japanized
[08:53] <raven_> lotuspsychje, ok tnx
[08:53] <anonymous_> iam sorry
[08:54] <anonymous_> what is mean this channel is for ubuntu questions only
[08:58] <guillaume__> bonjour
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> guillaume__: please english only here
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> !fr > guillaume__
[09:10] <s1gm4> Do any of you guys use a particular virus/malware scanner for your systems?
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | s1gm4
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> s1gm4: you can tight your security on ubuntu with many other tools aswell
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> !security | s1gm4
[09:11] <s1gm4> Yep. Thats the one im using right now. Was just hoping for something new.
[09:12] <s1gm4> thanks lotuspsychje
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> s1gm4: rootkithunter is pretty handy aswell
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> s1gm4: and snort
[09:12] <s1gm4> Oh, I hadnt head of that. I use chkrootkit
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | s1gm4
[09:14] <llutz> pretty pointless, when installed on the system you want to check
[09:14] <s1gm4> alias rkhunter='sh -c "for i in range(1,100); echo nothing wrong"'
[09:14] <s1gm4> :D
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> s1gm4: the security trigger shows alot of usefull tools :p
[09:18] <japanized> I found out that C++ programming is possible under Ubuntu OS. After compiling the source file, how does the executable file look like?
[09:19] <Znoosey> what do you mean japanized?
[09:19] <feitingen> japanized: like an ELF executable
[09:19] <japanized> ELF?
[09:20] <japanized> ELF file can run under Windows?
[09:20] <feitingen> japanized: no
[09:21] <feitingen> japanized: if you compile it for linux, it will run on linux, if you compile it for windows, it will run on windows, you can do both on linux and windows
[09:22] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:22] <japanized> I am not sure my laptop has problem on display. i cannot see the full text you type. feitingen
[09:23] <feitingen> japanized: look here if you want to make windows programs http://www.mingw.org/
[09:24] <japanized> how can i upload the screen capture?
[09:24] <ShapeShifter499> I just noticed something... I downloaded a android rom from dev-host ( http://d-h.st )  and the site shows it being 116.20 mb big but nautilus says its 122mb big however the amount of bytes big it shows matches what the site shows. Is there a bug in nautilus or could this just be a site issue?
[09:28] <japanized> making the application for Linux can make money? I heard of free license about Linux.
[09:28] <ubuntu> sanjay
[09:31] <feitingen> ShapeShifter499: nautilus is using 1MB=1000000 bytes, and the site is using 1MB=1048576 bytes. There is nothing wrong with your file.
[09:32] <excelsiora> So is it possible to invert colors in unity? Or was that only before Unity? My screen is too bright and my dimmer doesn't work.
[09:32] <ShapeShifter499> ah
[09:32] <ShapeShifter499> feitingen, thanks for the info
[09:32] <ssfjhh> can anyone help me? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17905179/how-can-i-insert-two-pictures-on-the-first-page-in-xelatex
[09:38] <moza> Hello. I'm trying to make space for ubuntu on a dual-boot system, but it seems neither gparted nor the disk utility are up to the task. Are there other options?
[09:38] <hewhomust> moza what do you mean?
[09:39] <moza> I had one 30Gb partition for linux
[09:39] <moza> alongside one 90 Gb for windows
[09:39] <moza> now i'm trying to downsize the windows one
[09:39] <moza> but gparted doesn't show the partitions and the disk utility only offers to erase and recreate partitions
[09:40] <moza> It is probably linked to having small errors in the disk or the partition table, but i am not sure if i can fix that and how.
[09:41] <ruslan_osmanov> Hi, how do I install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libevent/2.0.21-stable-1/+build/4591770 via command line? I mean `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:SOMETHING`
[09:41] <moza> I have a backup of the windows system, and the ubuntu system only has some new mails.
[09:42] <hewhomust> rus that is the right command
[09:42] <ruslan_osmanov> hewhomust, `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:...`. What should be instead of "..."?
[09:43] <jost> Hi! I've tried to build a FakeRAID 1 setup on my machine, adding a mirror disk to an existing one. I've set up the raid in BIOS, and then reinstalled XUbuntu 12.04. Everything worked fine after that, but when updating to 12.10, an error occurred when updating GRUB and now the machine won't boot anymore. I've tried to install XUbuntu 12.04 again, but it does not work - it is not able to write something to the RAID disk in the partitioning
[09:43] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. My install of postgresql became messed up, so I tried to `purge` and re-`install` it with apt-get, but the installation gives me an error: "Error: could not create default cluster. Please create it manually with  pg_createcluster 9.1 main --start"  -- But that command fails with "Error: move_conffile: required configuration file /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf does not exist"
[09:43] <moza> jost, are you able to mount anything through a live cd ?
[09:43] <linelevel> Can anyone please help?
[09:45] <hewhomust> rus could you show me your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <HypnotiX> hello, im a windows user trying to switch to ubuntu and i am frustrated as hell :)
[09:45] <hewhomust> it seems like you need to add the saucy source
[09:45] <hewhomust> lol
[09:45] <hewhomust> what is the problem?
[09:45] <HypnotiX> after spending 4 hours trying to install 13.04 and getting cannot install swap bla bla errors
[09:46] <HypnotiX> i managed to install 12.04 without any problems on the same unpartitioned space
[09:46] <hewhomust> lol could you please tell me more info, how exactly did you install it and what is the error?
[09:47] <HypnotiX> wait :D
[09:47] <hewhomust> np
[09:47] <HypnotiX> on 12.04 i have a problem
[09:47] <jost> moza: Booting from Live CD works
[09:47] <HypnotiX> my max rezolution is set to 1024
[09:47] <HypnotiX> i install the current nvidia driver from the repo
[09:47] <HypnotiX> and still nothing
[09:47] <HypnotiX> i have two monitors btw
[09:48] <hewhomust> hypnotix paste the results from sudo xrandr -q please
[09:49] <hewhomust> you might just have to make a custom resolution
[09:50] <moza> jost : i had a similar problem and ended up reconstructing things from the live cd
[09:50] <jost> moza: ok, what was the problem? GRUB not correctly set up?
[09:51] <moza> jost : first thing is to make a backup before trying to reinstall or reconstruct anything, are you set on that?
[09:51] <jost> moza: thats done
[09:51] <bawank_> hi, im newbie, and i've installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop, and i wanna make a conky+colors, anyone can help me to explain it? i need link to read :_
[09:52] <amyassin> This is my first IRC login
[09:52] <moza> jost : in my case, it was an upgrade that had messed up the grub configuration, and one part of the raid, so i had to reconstruct the raid and reinstall the new version (while keeping /home)
[09:52] <amyassin> ppl say find help on freenode but actually ppl need help to get in freenode in the first place!!!
[09:53] <HypnotiX> hewwhomust: ok i will login to linux and paste the xradr
[09:53] <hewhomust> ok thx
[09:53] <LXLE> is there a terminal command to execute a hotkey combo?
[09:55] <imark> LXLE: what are you trying to achieve? Most keyboard short cuts are just mapped to commands anyway
[09:56] <LXLE> imark: i'm trying to use the terminal to execute a hotkey combination which activates a program
[09:56] <HypnotiX> ok im back
[09:56] <hewhomust> ok
[09:56] <HypnotiX> so i just paste here
[09:56] <hewhomust> yeah
[09:56] <HypnotiX> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2048 x 768, maximum 16384 x 16384 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-I-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 480mm x 270mm    1024x768       75.0*+   60.0      800x600        75.0     60.3      640x480        75.0     59.9   DVI-I-2 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 530mm x 290mm    1024x768       75.0*+  
[09:59] <hewhomust> Hypnotix could you please install pastebinit
[09:59] <hewhomust> and then run xrandr -q | pastebinit
[09:59] <ssfjhh> can anyone help me? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17905179/how-can-i-insert-two-pictures-on-the-first-page-in-xelatex
[09:59] <hewhomust> !pastebinit
[10:00] <imark> LXLE: Which program, as I said most hotkeys merely run a command, so you don't need to figure out how to run a command that maps a keyboard shortcut that runs another command, you just run the final command, if you follow me
[10:00] <HypnotiX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5921215/
[10:01] <LXLE> actually i do because i'm creating a shortcut that executes the command that will activate the hotkey
[10:01] <hewhomust> thx
[10:01] <LXLE> imark: actually i do because i'm creating a shortcut that executes the command that will activate the hotkey
[10:01] <HypnotiX> ty too :)
[10:01] <hewhomust> yup you probably need to add another resolution
[10:02] <HypnotiX> but why... i installed the lastest video drivers
[10:02] <HypnotiX> sigh
[10:02] <hewhomust> i dont know lol
[10:02] <HypnotiX> this is why most people dont switch to linux :(
[10:02] <imark> LXLE: and what does the hotkey do? whats the overall result?
[10:03] <HypnotiX> ok so how do i add my resolution
[10:03] <LXLE> imark: its a hotkey combo that activate an app launcher
[10:03] <hewhomust> well whats your resolution?
[10:03] <HypnotiX> 1920 1080
[10:03] <hewhomust> ok
[10:04] <hewhomust> hypno, well first run this command sudo cvt 1920 1080 60
[10:05] <imark> LXLE: so you want to have a keyboard shortcut that activates a launcher? why not just launch the app directly with a keyboard shortcut? forgive me for not directly answering you question but it seems like you're trying to go the long way round here
[10:07] <LXLE> imark: i need an icon that executes a hotkey combo so i can put that icon in the panel so its clickable. icons can be manipulated to execute terminal commands , so i need a command that activates a hotkey so i can make an icon thats clickable in the panel
[10:08] <dharini> hi is anyone online ?
[10:16] <hewhomust> lol no
[10:16] <imark> LXLE: okay I get you, well it still depends on the exact result you want to achieve, hotkeys are just keys, they don't have commands themselves but all hotkeys will just execute another command, you jsut need to find out what that command is, so back to the start, and be specific, what do you want the clickable icon to do?
[10:16] <hewhomust> dharin whats the problem
[10:18] <LXLE> imark: to execute a hotkey combo
[10:20] <dell> bonjour!
[10:20] <hewhomust> hi dell
[10:21] <dell> c'est la premiere fois que j'utlise IRC
[10:21] <k1l> !fr | dell
[10:21] <hewhomust> !de
[10:21] <dell> ok, sorry...
[10:22] <k1l> hewhomust: that wasnt german :)
[10:22] <hewhomust> i know
[10:22] <hewhomust> just didnt know that you could do that awesome
[10:22] <imark> LXLE: yes I get it, but what I asked is what do you want that hotkey to do,  your not helping me help you here, if you want to continue to do this the difficult way, look into xbindkeys http://www.butlerpc.net/blog/2011/01/using-xbindkeys-on-ubuntu-linux-to-remap-key-commands/ the easy way is to still figure out the command that this hotkey is running, all launcher/hotkeys/shortcuts lead back to a simple command, if you figure
[10:22] <imark> out what that command is then you jsut make a simple launcher for it,
[10:23] <fooman2011> hello guys, I have a question about wake on lan and ubuntu server, is it the appriopriate chan ?
[10:24] <LXLE> imark: oh for god sake, i know what the hotkey does, i just need an icon that executes the hotkey
[10:24] <LXLE> that is irrelevant information
[10:27] <imark> LXLE: okay, so I won't try and save you the hassle and ball-ache look into xbindkeys on your own, sometimes it best to just let other people help you rather than pretend you know better than everyone else
[10:28] <joshu> how do you enable display brightness changing at the lightdm unity-greeter screen?
[10:29] <LXLE> imark: there is no other way to explain what i need to you, i know what the hotkey does, i know what program its tied to, it doesn't simple launch the program the program is a daemon which runs in the background, the hotkey activates the daemon to bring up a dialog box,   therego i need a icon that executes the hotkey, i don't need to figure out what the hotkey does or what its tied to
[10:31] <imark> LXLE: clearly you know better so I'll let you get on with it, not that it matters now but if you just answered my questions you would have had this finished by now
[10:32] <LXLE> imark: lol ya ok
[10:32] <javicus> :)
[10:35] <jost> whats the correct way to install grub from a live CD to a FakeRAID 1 array?
[10:36] <ikonia> jost: it should show the meta device as a "disk"
[10:36] <ikonia> jost: so you just install to that meta device
[10:36] <jost> ikonia: yes, it looks like /dev/mapper/nvidia_sadasdasd
[10:37] <jost> but when running sudo grub-setup /dev/mapper/..., I get a segfault
[10:37] <ikonia> jost: why are you running that, the install should install grub
[10:38] <jost> ikonia: the installer installed grub, but after that I've updated from 12.04 (last version with alternative installer) to 12.10. After that, grub does not find files anymore and such things
[10:38] <jost> 12.04 worked
[10:38] <ikonia> jost: what do you mean "grub does not find the files"
[10:38] <jost> it boots and says "error: file not found"
[10:39] <ikonia> jost: if it boots it can't not find the file
[10:39] <ikonia> jost: what point of grub fails
[10:39] <occ> can i make ubuntu configuration files link somewhere else? for example say my ubuntu is installed on my HDD, can i put my /etc/hosts file, in a seperate usb stick, and have /etc/hosts on my HDD file-link to the usb stick
[10:39] <ikonia> occ: no
[10:39] <dotcom420> Hello there. Can i run iphone games and apps on ubuntu?
[10:39] <ikonia> dotcom420: no
[10:39] <jost> I don't get the grub selection screen, only a prompt where i may enter a boot line
[10:40] <jost> ikonia:
[10:40] <ikonia> jost: ok, so it doesn't boot - grub can't find the menu/config file so doesn't have a menu option
[10:40] <jost> Ok - How would I fix that one?
[10:40] <jost> got a Live CD running
[10:40] <ikonia> jost: first thing is to check if the files are there
[10:41] <dotcom420> ikonia: I heard from someone that by virtualization, we can do that. But i am not sure. What  are your thoughts?
[10:41] <ikonia> jost: however I suspect this is going to end up being a problem with fakeraid as it's support is terrible
[10:41] <ikonia> dotcom420: no, you can't do that
[10:41] <dotcom420> ok
[10:44] <jost> ikonia: next problem: I can't mount the raid
[10:44] <ikonia> jost: that's probably why grub can't find th efiles
[10:45] <jost> ikonia: I meant from a Live CD... but got that, was my own stupidity
[10:45] <joshu> no suggestions on how to enable keyboard brightness keys at the lightdm unity-greeter prior to login?
[10:45] <ikonia> joshu: you're too stripped down for that
[10:46] <joshu> ikonia hi but even on a standard ubuntu install I can't change brightness prior to login
[10:46] <joshu> only after I've logged in and can see the desktop
[10:46] <ikonia> joshu: I suspect because the config for the keys will be a per user setup
[10:46] <ikonia> joshu: so until you login the keys/daemon controlling it are not started
[10:47] <shasten> hey on ubuntu ultimate edition 3.5, I can´t pull up frostwire.  It downloads, but when I click on it nothing happens.  Any possible explanations?
[10:47] <joshu> ikonia no way around that?
[10:47] <ikonia> joshu: depends what's configuring/controlling the keys
[10:47] <ikonia> shasten: ubuntu ultimate is not an official ubuntu distribution, we don't support it here, it's not ubuntu
[10:48] <VP1> Using 12.04, Dell Inspiron, Core2 Duo, TAB key continuously autopresed with fast pace. unable to work. pl help
[10:49] <joshu> ikonia how can I find out how the keys are controlled?
[10:49] <shasten> pardon me, it is kubuntu, but it still comes installed with System 76 systems so it is ubuntu.
[10:49] <ikonia> shasten: ubuntu ultimate edition is not kubuntu
[10:50] <ikonia> joshu: a good question, i've not looked at hot keys for a long time
[10:50] <shasten> yes it is, it is Kubuntu 12.04, and it downloads off KDE.  I just thought someone would know a quick fix.
[10:50] <ikonia> joshu: I'm wondering if it's xorg mapping for special keys
[10:50] <VP1> pl help
[10:50] <ikonia> joshu: or it can be / used to be a stand alone daemon listening for events
[10:51] <ikonia> shasten: ubuntu ultimate edition is NOT an official ubuntu build and we don't support it here
[10:51] <joshu> ikonia if it's xorg then there should be a config /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:51] <joshu> but on my test default ubuntu standard install I can't find that file
[10:51] <ikonia> joshu: depends, if it's part of the xderver (doubtful) then yes,
[10:52] <shasten> whatever...I don´t mean to argue, just thought someone would have a quick fix.  I got other places I can look..
[10:52] <ikonia> joshu: xorg.conf is dynamic for a long time now, so you only have that file if you need to hardcode/force
[10:52] <ikonia> shasten: I suggest looking in other places as we don't support ultimate edition here
[10:53] <napsc> shasten: if it comes with System 76, why not check with them.
[10:55] <Kevin`> how can I make the ubuntu gui connect to a wireless network that doesn't have a dhcp server?
[10:55] <ikonia> Kevin`: setup a static ip configuration for the wireless network
[10:56] <Kevin`> can I have two wireless networks with the same name? I just want to do this temporarily
[10:56] <ikonia> Kevin`: sure
[10:56] <imark> joshu: its the gnome libraries that monitor for  input on the brightness buttons, but gnome doesn't start until after you login
[10:57] <ikonia> imark: super, thank you
[10:59] <imark> ive just googled around a bit for things like "lightdm custom keyboard shortcuts" and i dont think its something that can be easily done
[11:00] <joshu> ikonia imark hmm.. when I tail /var/log/syslog and hit the brightness keys when I'm logged in I see kernel: atkbd seri0 events
[11:00] <ikonia> imark: it must be a specific daemon that does it though
[11:00] <ikonia> joshu: yes, it's sending a keyboard event, but nothings listening
[11:03] <joshu> ikonia and when it says in the syslog…"use setkeycodes e02b to make it known" is that something I can use?
[11:03] <imark> joshu: perhaps xbindkeys could help, you can install xbindkeys from the standard repos and configure it to listen for any keyboard command, and it can be set to run as soon as the system boots rather than when you log in, I've never used it this purpose and its probably a bit heavy duty but in theory it can do it
[11:03] <imark> *used it for this purpose
[11:03] <ikonia> joshu: you can't do much with it, but something listening for that keyboard event can
[11:04] <joshu> imark ok I'm wiling to try as I'd really like my users to be able to change the brightness when not logged in and when the session is not gnome as well
[11:05] <imark> joshu: if you get it working I would advice disabling the gnome shortcut for brightness control otherwise after you log in every hit on the brightness button will register twice
[11:06] <imark> should be able to do  that in the normal keyboard shortcut sections
[11:07] <joshu> imark so after I install xbindkeys. I need to create a.xbindkeysrc file and in that specify the event which I see in syslog and then what to do on that event?
[11:08] <ikonia> joshu: be very interesting to see if that works, I'm not sure it will
[11:10] <japanized> how can I play the asf format?
[11:11] <imark> it should work, its just figuring out the specific keyboard command to up or down brightness that could be tricky, apparently it varies considerably depending on the machine in question
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> japanized  i read here, it's a MS thingy and can be played with VLC
[11:12] <joshu> imark so I've install xbindkeys now and trying to figure out the xbindkeysrc file.
[11:13] <japanized> monkeydust i can hear but cannot see
[11:14] <imark> yeah its a fiddly one, but there are many guide available, i would test it just doing something simple like open terminal, trying to figure out how to get xbindkeys working and working out the correct command to change brightness at the same time could get messy
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> japanized  use winff to convert it to avi or so, then try again
[11:14] <japanized> oh
[11:15] <japanized> many trouble things while converting from Windows to Ubuntu
[11:16] <japanized> MonkeyDust anyway thanks
[11:16] <japanized> s
[11:17] <kephra> moin - where does ubuntu precise store its wifi passwords?
[11:17] <kephra> to edit them by shell cut'n'paste
[11:19] <kephra> the /etc/network/interfaces only contain loopback - but neither eth0 nor wlan0
[11:19] <bekks> kephra: They arent store in plain text, so you cant edit them as plain text.
[11:19] <kephra> still ethernet works out of the box - but wlan does not (likely because of typos of my very long password)
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> kephra  yes, ethernet is the fastest, safest and easiest way to connect, it does not require extra configuration, as opposed to wireless
[11:23] <kephra> well - my plan now is: login via ssh, and cut'n'paste the wlan passwd
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> kephra  sounds like poor security, if that were possible
[11:23] <kephra> so the question is, if there is any way to edit/change the wlan password of the ubuntu system for an ESSID by commandline, shell, editor?
[11:24] <kephra> typing 128 characters is to prone to errors
[11:24] <kephra> other question is: is it possible to disable to ubuntu way - and use plain old wpa config
[11:26] <bekks> kephra: Even WPA is the ubuntu way. And even for WPA, the password is stored encrypted, and not in plain text.
[11:27] <japanized> where can i find GCC launcher?
[11:28] <japanized> GCC is GNU C compiler.
[11:28] <bekks> There is no gcc launcher. There is a program called "gcc" which is sufficient.
[11:28] <japanized> I can see gcc is installed. but I do not know how to start it
[11:28] <bekks> japanized: Open a terminal, type gcc, press enter.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:29] <excelsiora> japanized: probably before you do that, type man gcc
[11:29] <kephra> japanized, create a source code and name it like ttt.c - then in same directory type: make ttt
[11:29] <napsc> kephra: if you're using network manager: man nmcli
[11:29] <napsc> i haven
[11:29] <napsc> i havent used it myself
[11:30] <japanized> my first problem is my laptop canot display the full text you guys typed.
[11:30] <japanized> even what I typed is not fully displayed.
[11:30] <kephra> napsc, is the ubuntu GUI using network manager? (the thing in precise top bar)
[11:31] <japanized> where can i upload the picture?
[11:32] <kephra> *ok* it loos so
[11:32] <kephra> s/loos/looks/
[11:33] <joshu> I can get xbindkeys to launch say gedit, but I can't get a command to run such as "sudo /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-backlight --set-brightness 100"
[11:33] <japanized> i wanna give you the link after uploading picture
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> japanized  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[11:40] <joshu> ikonia so without a doubt I can change the brightness at lightdm greeter by doing ctrl+alt+F1 to get to the virtual terminal and then running the above command, but now how do I run this command with a keyboard shortcut?
[11:40] <joshu> ikonia I tried with bindkeys as imark suggested but maybe I've created my xbindkeysrc file wrong
[11:41] <ikonia> I've never really needed bindkeys, so no used it beyond a 5 minute play
[11:45] <joshu> so close but yet so far awey
[11:51] <dbugger> Hello guys. Can someone please tell me what is the best hassle-free problem to start developing after installing Apache? I mean it because I dont want to be sudo-ing all the time to get access to "/var/www"
[11:54] <imark> joshu: any luck with the xbindkeys, ive just switched over to my netbook running mint with mdm and it would seem mdm supports brightness controls
[11:55] <joshu> hi imark no luck I might be doing something wrong not sure.
[11:55] <joshu> As I told ikonia I can change display brightness at the lightdm greeter by going to the virtual terminal and executing sudo /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-backlight-helper --set-brightness 255
[11:56] <joshu> imark just need to find a way to do this without dropping to the virtual terminal as I don't want users to do that ;)
[11:56] <imark> joshu: ah right it needs sudo, that requires sudo, that could be a problem,
[11:57] <somsip> dbugger: if it's for local dev, add yourself to www-data group, then chgrp www-data -R /var/www, and finally chmod g+s /var/www. Logout and in again, and you should be able to create files in /var/www as www-data which Apache will be able to read
[11:57] <imark> hhhm, typing hings twice, clearly i need a coffee
[11:57] <imark> *things,
[11:57] <joshu> imark hehe
[11:57] <joshu> imark so xbindkeys won't work?
[11:58] <imark> joshu: well yes but youll have to edit the sudoers file so that can be run by any user without the need for sudo password, or figure out another way of changing the brightness without sudo, it must be possible
[11:59] <joshu> ok let me try the sudoers option and see if that work
[11:59] <Lee1234> hello
[11:59] <Lee1234> is der anyone
[12:00] <Lee1234> need help
[12:00] <joshu> imark this is where I found the gnome-settings string http://virtuallyhyper.com/2013/03/update-chrubuntu-12-04-to-13-04-on-the-samsung-chromebook/
[12:00] <joshu> he uses pkexec in a script
[12:00] <Lee1234> i cant install any software from software center
[12:01] <hewhomust> lee, have you tried the terminal?
[12:01] <Guest80044> Hi guys. Is there any way to get back unity 2d on 13.04?
[12:01] <brotakul> Hi guys. Is there any way to get back unity 2d on 13.04?
[12:02] <Senor> How can I save binary array to mysql db?
[12:03] <Lee1234> i cant install any software ... it shows some error like "Require installation of untrusted packages"
[12:03] <hewhomust> weird
[12:03] <Lee1234> pls help
[12:04] <hewhomust> Lee, perhaps this website will be of use to you, http://askubuntu.com/questions/184117/requires-installation-of-untrusted-packages
[12:04] <Lee1234> i tried to install gparted n xchat from terminal .... it worked bt .. from software center its not... wt to do ..
[12:04] <Guest46150> Hi
[12:05] <Lee1234> ok  .... wait
[12:05] <Guest46150> I always getting error about some .gpg file when updating
[12:05] <Guest46150> says that's something is broken
[12:05] <dbugger> somsip, how do I add myself to www-data?
[12:06] <rage_> Hello, I'm there is a fix recently commited to Compiz 0.9.10 that I'm eager to get. Is Compiz 0.9.10 likely to end up in 13.04 ?
[12:06] <joshu> imark ok it seems to work with /usr/bin/pkexec /usr/lib/gnome…….
[12:07] <joshu> maybe it's that xbindkeys isn't starting up
[12:07] <nannes> !gpgerr | Guest46150
[12:07] <Guest46150> nannes: how do i found the key?
[12:08] <nannes> Guest46150: It should be shown in your error message.
[12:08] <nannes> brotakul: Why do you wanna get back to unity 2d?
[12:09] <Guest46150> nannes: ah, thanks, ill try it
[12:09] <Guest46150> W:GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A8AA1FAA3F055C03 Launchpad PPA for Daniel Richter, E:Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_danielrichter2007_grub-customizer_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages.IndexDiff - open (2: No such file or directory)
[12:09] <imark> joshu: gnome tools again though, I'm not confident that will work until you're logged in,
[12:10] <imark> it may do, I'm not sure
[12:10] <Guest46150> nannes: i posted my error message
[12:10] <brotakul> nannes: i got mobility hd2600 on my laptop and the legacy drivers doesn't seem very fast. and the proprietary ati drivers seem to be troublesome to install, from what i read on the internet. i hope unity 2d to be easier on the video card
[12:11] <joshu> imark I think the problem might be that xbindkeys isn't starting till I login but I'm not sure
[12:11] <nannes> Guest46150: mm very long key.. it should be that one, but I'm not sure. Just try
[12:11] <joshu> when I'm logged in the shortcuts I've created work fine.
[12:12] <imark> okay, open up your crontab "crontab -e" and add a line to start xbindkeys at reboot
[12:12] <gregor_> hi
[12:12] <hewhomust> hi
[12:12] <gregor_> sup ?
[12:12] <hewhomust> lol
[12:12] <nannes> brotakul: In "hardware drivers" menu you can see available proprietary drivers for your card?
[12:12] <noregret> so i'm on precise, and the plowshare package requires curl > 7.24 and by default, 7.22 is installed, so i removed it and installed it from source (latest), now the issue is that when i try apt-get install plowshare, it doesn't detect that curl is installed at all, is there a way to add curl to teh system as a package or soemthing like that.. any ideas ?
[12:12] <gregor_> i just booted up xchat on linux for the first time :))
[12:13] <hewhomust> lol nice
[12:13] <Guest46150> nannes: it says that key key iwas unchanged
[12:13] <brotakul> nannes: no, i already checked that, as i always did when installing new version of ubuntu, but in 13.04 nothing appears there
[12:14] <gregor_> do you guys come here often ?
[12:14] <Guest46150> gpg: requesting key 3F055C03 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[12:14] <Guest46150> gpg: key 3F055C03: "Launchpad PPA for Daniel Richter" not changed
[12:14] <gregor_> brotakul are you trying to instal linux ubuntu ?
[12:15] <brotakul> gregor_: i'm on 13.04 here, just trying to get unity_2d for more speed
[12:15] <cfhowlett> gregor_, general chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please.  Thank you.
[12:15] <Guest46150> nannes: still same error
[12:15] <gregor_> ah ok
[12:16] <gregor_> i over run my xp windows machine with linux thought i give it a try
[12:16] <hewhomust> yeah if you've got a problem come here lol
[12:16] <planete> hi
[12:17] <hewhomust> hi planete
[12:17] <gregor_> its going not to bad
[12:17] <hewhomust> nice
[12:17] <planete> it's fabulous
[12:17] <planete> this 'chatbox'
[12:17] <Guest46150> can someone help me?
[12:17] <nannes> Ok brotakul.  Well in my opinion unity2d lacks in all the good features that original unity can offer, being even too "spendy" in hardware resources. So I would suggest you to directly switch to another DE (a light one)
[12:18] <ikonia> Guest46150: people won't know if they can help unless you ask a question
[12:18] <Guest46150> ikonia: W:GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A8AA1FAA3F055C03 Launchpad PPA for Daniel Richter, E:Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_danielrichter2007_grub-customizer_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages.IndexDiff - open (2: No such file or directory)
[12:18] <nannes> Ok brotakul.  Well in my opinion unity2d lacks in all the good features that original unity can offer, being even too "spendy" in hardware resources considering what it can offer. So I would suggest you to directly switch to another DE (a light one)
[12:18] <gregor_> i like how you can search for apps in the ubunto software center
[12:18] <ikonia> Guest46150: the PPA maintainer needs to update it
[12:18] <Guest46150> ikonia: are u sure?
[12:18] <ikonia> gregor_: read https://help.ubuntu.com for an introduction to how to use ubuntu
[12:19] <nannes> ikonia: He's already asked his question
[12:19] <ikonia> Guest46150: "no such file"
[12:19] <Guest46150> so all ,my PPAs habe suddenly been outdates?
[12:19] <Guest46150> over one night`?
[12:19] <gregor_> thanks il have a look at it ikonia
[12:19] <Guest46150> it still works on my second computer
[12:19] <ikonia> Guest46150: that looks like one PPA and it's complaining about the GPG key change and a missing file,
[12:19] <Guest46150> so...
[12:20] <Guest46150> on my system, yes
[12:20] <ikonia> Guest46150: the missing file could be due to the gpg key change and it "appears" missing, which is just an invalid signature
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[12:20] <Guest46150> so, how do i fix it?
[12:20] <ikonia> Guest46150: update the gpg key
[12:20] <nannes> Guest46150: Yours is a known issue. You should solve it by simply removing the PPA and re-adding it again
[12:20] <ikonia> nannes: is this a known issue with launchpad ?
[12:20] <nannes> y
[12:21] <ikonia> nannes: is there a bug for it ?
[12:21] <Guest46150> nannes: how do i remove it?
[12:21] <auronandace> !ppa-purge | Guest46150
[12:21] <nannes> !bug 164158
[12:21] <nannes> ops
[12:21] <nannes> it's not that, sorry, it's this one  https://answers.launchpad.net/grub-customizer/+question/164158
[12:22] <cplx> hi guys - I have a macbook pro running ubuntu 13.04 - anyone been able to enable AHCI??
[12:22] <ikonia> nannes: that's not a "known issue"
[12:22] <planete> "# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment" ?
[12:22] <ikonia> nannes: and if you look it's the same repo that the user was having
[12:22] <Guest46150> auronandace: thanks, i will try that
[12:22] <ikonia> so it is a problem with this guys PPA
[12:23] <hewhomust> could anyone help me, I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and when I add ppa's to my system the software package doesn't seem to update the version, It works perfectly on my ubuntu 13.04 though
[12:23] <ikonia> hewhomust: what do you mean, doesn't update the version ?
[12:24] <ikonia> hewhomust: what is not happening that you expect to happen
[12:24] <gregor_> whats dose ppas stand for ?
[12:24] <auronandace> !ppa | gregor_
[12:24] <ikonia> gregor_: personal package archive
[12:25] <hewhomust> ikonia, sorry well for example the ppa https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/vlc has vlc 2.07 but the vlc in the precise repo is 2.05, when I add the ppa to my system I can still only install 2.05
[12:26] <ikonia> hewhomust: that repo does not have 12.04 packages
[12:26] <azoos> Hi
[12:26] <hewhomust> I just read the ppa right then
[12:27] <ikonia> hewhomust: what ?
[12:27] <hewhomust> the ppa details
[12:27] <ikonia> hewhomust: the PPA has packages for 12.10 and 13.04
[12:27] <ikonia> "you're welcome"
[12:30] <cplx> Hi guys - how do I enable AHCI?
[12:30] <ikonia> in the bios
[12:35] <cplx> hi guys - I have a macbook pro running ubuntu 13.04 - anyone been able to enable AHCI??
[12:35] <amyassin_> hey guys
[12:35] <ikonia> cplx: it's done in the bios
[12:40] <noregret> so i'm on precise, and the plowshare package requires curl > 7.24 and by default, 7.22 is installed, so i removed curl and installed it from source (latest), now the issue is that when i try apt-get install plowshare, it doesn't detect that curl is installed at all, is there a way to add curl to teh system as a package or soemthing like that.. any ideas ?
[12:40] <ikonia> noregret: you've made a mess
[12:41] <auronandace> !checkinstall | noregret
[12:41] <ikonia> noregret: things installed by source have the potentical to cause conflict, and will not be picked up by the package managers
[12:41] <Swii117> see in ubunto is there a command like in xp for the command line where you go net view  to view your accounts on the machine ?
[12:43] <qweasd> 有中国人嘛？
[12:43] <cplx> hi guys - I have a macbook pro running ubuntu 13.04 - anyone been able to enable AHCI??
[12:43] <Swii117> what can ahci do ?
[12:44] <noregret> ikonia: well, what can I do if the package in the repo isn't up to date..
[12:44] <Guest46150> Now I'm getting this error: E:The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package aptdaemon.
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !cn|qweasd,
[12:45] <ikonia> Guest46150: again, PPA maintainer needs to tidy up his repo, clear your package manager cache, re run apt-get update and check the problem is still there
[12:45] <ikonia> noregret: depends on a few things,
[12:45] <qweasd> txu
[12:45] <Guest46150> ikonia: remnoved all ppas
[12:45] <qweasd>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:45] <Guest46150> so that's not the problem
[12:45] <qweasd> join #ubuntu-cn
[12:45] <ikonia> Guest46150: do what I said though, clear the cache, and re-reun apt-get update to get the current package definition files
[12:46] <qweasd> tnxu!
[12:46] <Guest46150> apt-get update doesnt leave any error
[12:46] <ikonia> Guest46150: it shouldn't leave an error
[12:46] <Guest46150> update manager does
[12:46] <ikonia> Guest46150: possible because it's trying to update packages for repos that no longer exist
[12:47] <ikonia> Guest46150: clear the cache, re-run apt-get update to make sure your cache is current, then check
[12:47] <Guest46150> how do i clear it?
[12:47] <ikonia> Guest46150: should be a cache file in /var/lib/dpkg (I think, you'll need to check that)
[12:47] <Guest46150> shall i just rm it
[12:48] <Guest46150> ?
[12:48] <joshu> imark yeah doesn't seem to work. Another option is to echo 5 > /sys/class/backlight/radeon_bl0/brightness
[12:48] <ikonia> there is also a command in apt-get for cleaning the cache
[12:48] <ikonia> I've not got an ubuntu machine here to check
[12:48] <joshu> but I keep getting permission denied even with sudo
[12:48] <ikonia> joshu: shouldn't be done into sys
[12:48] <ikonia> joshu: should be the proc interface
[12:49] <joshu> ikonia how do I do it to the "proc interface"?
[12:49] <ikonia> joshu: look in /proc
[12:49] <Ampelbein> joshu: echo 5 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/class/backlight/....
[12:49] <Guest46150> ikonia: man apt-get | grep clear only founds apt-cache
[12:50] <ikonia> Guest46150: maybe read the man page, instead of grepping for key words
[12:50] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: Are you looking for "apt-get clean"?
[12:50] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: maybe
[12:51] <joshu> Ampelbein I don't have a class/backlight directories under /proc/
[12:51] <Guest46150> APT is a management system for software packages. For normal day to day
[12:51] <Guest46150>        package management there are several frontends available, such as apti-
[12:51] <Guest46150>        tude(8)  for  the  command line or synaptic(8) for the X Window System.
[12:51] <Guest46150>        Some options are only implemented in apt-get(8) though.
[12:51] <FloodBot1> Guest46150: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:51] <Guest46150> the man page says this, nothing else
[12:51] <Guest46150> E: Invalid operation clear
[12:51] <ikonia> Guest46150: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
[12:51] <ikonia> Guest46150: man page seems to say a LOT more than that
[12:52] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: clean, not clear.
[12:52] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: no output
[12:52] <ikonia> Guest46150: read how to use things
[12:52] <ikonia> Guest46150: don't just type random things
[12:54] <joshu> ikonia no brightness under /proc/ is that odd?
[12:54] <ikonia> joshu: depends on the machine
[12:55] <joshu> ikonia so although it's available under sys I can't change it there?
[12:55] <ikonia> joshu:
[12:55] <ikonia> joshu: no
[12:55] <stiocco> buon weekend
[12:55] <Guest46150> ikonia: well, apt-get update works
[12:56] <ikonia> Guest46150: we know this, you've told me this multiple times ,it's expected to wokr
[12:56] <ikonia> wokr
[12:56] <joshu> ikonia worked with echo | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight ....
[12:56] <ikonia> work even
[12:56] <ikonia> joshu: very surprised that worked
[12:56] <Guest46150> ikonia: but not apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <Guest46150> E: The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package aptdaemon.
[12:56] <ikonia> Guest46150: I know this,
[12:57] <ikonia> Guest46150: we know the problems - we've confirmed it
[12:57] <Guest46150> and i have executed apt-get clean
[12:57] <ikonia> Guest46150: hence why I told you to clean the cache, and re-run apt-get update to get a fresh cache file
[12:57] <yannick__> hey guys, i compiled ruby via make && sudo make install and now i want to remove it. what is the best way?
[12:57] <Guest46150> i have cleaned the cache
[12:57] <ikonia> yannick__: manually remove every file it installed
[12:58] <ikonia> Guest46150: ok, so which repos is it complaining about bad index file
[12:58] <yannick__> ikonia: but that would be a messy uninstall right?
[12:58] <yannick__> ikonia: whereis ruby and then delete them?
[12:58] <ikonia> yannick__: yes, thats why people dont install things with "make install"
[12:58] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: "sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/* /tmp" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:58] <Guest46150> ikonia: it doesn't say anything about ppas now
[12:58] <ikonia> yannick__: no, you need to manually remove every file/library/header the make install updates
[12:59] <ikonia> Guest46150: I didn't ask you about PPA's
[12:59] <ikonia> Guest46150: I asked which repo it was complaining about
[12:59] <Lynoure> Are there any tools in ubuntu that tag music files with their BPM?
[12:59] <yannick__> ikonia: sorry i do not understand. "the make install updates"?
[12:59] <Guest46150> ikonia: it doresn't say anything about that
[12:59] <paynemax> Hi The best client for irc is?
[12:59] <ikonia> yannick__: when you do make install it puts many files in many different location
[12:59] <rage_> Is there a list of what package versions will be in 13.10?
[12:59] <ikonia> yannick__: you need to manually remove those files
[12:59] <Guest46150> only that the index file is corrupted
[12:59] <ikonia> Guest46150: for which repo though
[12:59] <Ampelbein> yannick__: Sometimes the source contains a "make uninstall" target.
[12:59] <yannick__> ikonia: how should i know which files are affected?
[13:00] <ikonia> yannick__: this is information you should be aware of before typing "make install"
[13:00] <Ampelbein> yannick__: So, go to the source directory (where you typed make install", and type "make uninstall".
[13:00] <Guest46150> ikonia: it doesn't say that
[13:00] <Guest46150> E: The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package aptdaemon.
[13:00] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: "sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/* /tmp" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:00] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: i'm trying
[13:00] <Guest46150> but failing
[13:01] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: What do you mean, failing. Does the mv command not work?
[13:02] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: yes, i can move the file and perform an update
[13:02] <Guest46150> but an upgrade is impossible
[13:02] <Guest46150> :/
[13:02] <amyassin> hey guys
[13:02] <ikonia> Guest46150: please pastbin your sources.list
[13:02] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: And you made sure that after you moved the files, the /var/lib/apt/lists directory is empty?
[13:02] <amyassin> Is there anyone has some issues with heat with Ubuntu 13.04 ??
[13:03] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: yes
[13:03] <Guest46150> totally empty
[13:03] <amyassin> My laptop became an oven ever since I started 13.04
[13:03] <paynemax> klienter
[13:03] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: Are you using a proxy?
[13:03] <albatros> ciao
[13:03] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: nope
[13:03] <Guest46150> no vpmn
[13:03] <Guest46150> no proxy
[13:04] <Guest46150> no firewall either
[13:04] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: Ok, do what ikonia says and please pastebin your sources.conf file
[13:04] <Guest46150> i will
[13:05] <ikonia> Guest46150: are there any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d either ?
[13:05] <Guest46150> ikonia: nopp
[13:05] <Guest46150> the directory doesnt even exist
[13:06] <amyassin> Is there anything I can do to cool the machine? or is it a problem in the OS and/or my hardware?
[13:06] <ikonia> Guest46150: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[13:06] <gord_> Hi, I'm a Widows user converting to Ubuntu so am a real newbe - AND - I'm even newer to IRC chat!!  But I'm tryinh to connect a network printer connected to a windows computer on the same network as this Ubuntu machine is connected to.  I seem to get it connected -BUT- I get this message in the printer setup window "Idle - Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds...".  What...
[13:06] <gord_> ...can/should I do now?  Nothing is happening at the printer end.
[13:06] <yannick__> ikonia: no make uninstall for ruby :(
[13:06] <ikonia> yannick__: I know this
[13:07] <Guest46150> ikonia: it's actually 12.04
[13:07] <Ampelbein> yannick__: Does https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/65612 help?
[13:07] <ikonia> Guest46150: can you post the output of the command "uname -a" please.
[13:08] <Guest46150> Linux <hostname> 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:08] <ikonia> Guest46150: there should be an /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
[13:08] <Guest46150> yeah, i know, quite old kernel
[13:08] <Guest46150> ikonia: it isn't
[13:08] <Guest46150> :P
[13:08] <ikonia> Guest46150: the kernel is fine
[13:08] <Guest46150> it all worked perfectly yesterday
[13:09] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.conf ?
[13:09] <Guest46150> and i wasn't even online then
[13:09] <ikonia> Guest46150: ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d and pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please
[13:10] <Guest46150> ikonia: owned by root, as i should be
[13:10] <ikonia> Guest46150: what is ?
[13:10] <Guest46150> the file is emppy thoigh
[13:10] <Guest46150> *though
[13:10] <ikonia> Guest46150: you said it didn't exist 30 seconds ago
[13:10] <ikonia> Guest46150: your attention to detail is unacceptable
[13:11] <Guest46150> ikonia: yea, it's exists now
[13:11] <ikonia> Guest46150: it existed in the first place
[13:11] <Guest46150> i created it
[13:11] <ikonia> this is nosnese
[13:11] <ikonia> I'm not progressing this any more
[13:11] <ikonia> I can't trust what you are saying
[13:12] <CiscoNinja> hello , i have a subscription to a website that the content i would like to dump. how can i do that please which software to use?
[13:12] <Guest46150> CiscoNinja: wget
[13:12] <mumpitzel> CiscoNinja: wget
[13:12] <CiscoNinja> mainly the text
[13:12] <ikonia> CiscoNinja: it will depend how the website authenticates and how it's content is generated
[13:12] <CiscoNinja> but how would i provide my useranme and password
[13:13] <CiscoNinja> ikonia, all end with extension .cfm
[13:13] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.conf ?
[13:13] <ikonia> CiscoNinja: that doesn't really mean much
[13:13] <mumpitzel> CiscoNinja: http://username:password@url.com
[13:13] <jrib> CiscoNinja: how do you provide it now...?
[13:13] <ikonia> Ampelbein: it's sources.list not sources.conf
[13:14] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Right.
[13:14] <CiscoNinja> i go to the main site and enter my username and password
[13:14] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list .
[13:14] <savagejen> For the life of me, I cannot figure out how to access the accelerometer data on my laptop.
[13:14] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: sure
[13:14] <on5sl> anybody here who can tell what to do if i just want to share files with samba4?
[13:15] <on5sl> since i'm reading all kinds of AD DC story's..
[13:15] <th0r> savagejen: why would anyone want an accelerometer on their laptop?
[13:16] <mumpitzel> on5sl: why use samba4 in the first place?
[13:16] <savagejen> th0r, a lot of laptops have accelerometers actually
[13:16] <on5sl> mumpitzel: performance, it's allasync now and they use the newer SMB protocol which is faster
[13:17] <savagejen> th0r, some have them built in for hard drive protections like this: https://code.google.com/p/tp-smapi-dkms-module/
[13:17] <mumpitzel> there hasn't been a new SMB protocol in years, probably decade. it all uses CIFS now including samba 3.6
[13:17] <CiscoNinja> mumpitzel, when i do wget and the url i dump the page that ask for login
[13:17] <amyassin> gord_: Is the permissions are set correctly for the printer?
[13:17] <savagejen> th0r, others are used for screen rotation, primarily on the newer touch-screen ultrabooks
[13:18] <mumpitzel> CiscoNinja: I told you how to put the username and password into the url for wget
[13:18] <th0r> savagejen: really! I never gave it much thought...and would not have expected a hard drive to respond fast enough to avert a disaster <smile>
[13:18] <mumpitzel> gord_: check if you can access the printer with smbclient -L
[13:18] <savagejen> Interestingly enough: accelerometer data is also made available in browser in javascript. See http://isthisanearthquake.com/
[13:18] <mumpitzel> th0r: newer hdds often have this built in
[13:18] <mumpitzel> savagejen: what laptop is it?
[13:19] <CiscoNinja> mumpitzel, do it in the wget as option or include in the url itself
[13:19] <savagejen> I have a Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13
[13:19] <savagejen> It uses SSDs so I doubt the accelerometer is in the hard drive.
[13:19] <CiscoNinja> 'wget --user=foo --password=bar url
[13:19] <mumpitzel> savagejen: try to use the thinkpad accelerometer software then
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> savagejen  found this in a youtube comment about accellerometer http://paste.ubuntu.com/5921681/
[13:20] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: How is that pastebin of your sources.list coming along? Just "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[13:20] <savagejen> mumpitzel, MonkeyDust I have no HDAPS
[13:20] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: pastebinit, command not found
[13:21] <savagejen> I did know about the command line commands to change the screen orientation, but I need system level event based accelerometer data
[13:22] <savagejen> I think the yoga doesn't use the same accelerometer as the other thinkpads
[13:22] <mumpitzel> savagejen: and where do you need this data? for what purpose?
[13:22] <Ampelbein> Guest46150: Ok. What is taking you so long, mate?
[13:22] <savagejen> mumpitzel, to script automatic screen rotation :)
[13:22] <savagejen> mumpitzel, when I rotate my laptop
[13:22] <OerHeks> Ampelbein, he cannot install pastebin with these problems, let him use paste.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <Guest46150> Ampelbein: rebooting
[13:23] <Ampelbein> OerHeks: That might be, I just don't understand why it takes 10+ minutes to copy text to paste.ubuntu.com.
[13:24] <Ampelbein> OerHeks: I mean, hey, my computer is working, I just wanted to provide help.
[13:24] <ikonia> Ampelbein: I'd advise caution here, I don't trust what is going on, which is why I've abacked away from it
[13:24] <ikonia> Ampelbein: directorys that are "root - as they should be" - but didn't exist a minute ago, how can they be "as they should be" if they didn't exist and the user didn't know they where meant to exist
[13:24] <ikonia> Ampelbein: and a "reboot" to get a sources.list
[13:25] <ikonia> Ampelbein: something is missing here - I don't believe the truth is being shared
[13:25] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Yeah, it sounds a bit fishy.
[13:25] <Kai_p_IE> hi im trying to use ubuntu 12.04 via HDMI and the top seems cut off
[13:25] <savagejen> mumpitzel, oh, I see, the package doesn't automatically install
[13:25] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: On your TV?
 yeah on my TV
[13:26] <bittyx> hi all! i have ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, and some sound issues. when i plug my headphones into the output jack, i can hear sound just fine, but when nothing is plugged in, i can't hear anything on the built-in speakers. some research has shown that the likely culprit is the output jack itself - after some time, it malfunctions and doesn't register that nothing is plugged in, so the OS thinks something is plugged in all the time.
 i own a 15inch sharp aquos
[13:26] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: Ok, what is the graphics adapter?
[13:27] <bittyx> is there any software way to active the speakers themselves, and disable the output jack altogether?
[13:27] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: i.e. Nvidia or AMD or Intel?
[13:27] <bittyx> s/active/activate/
 AMD/ATI
[13:27] <CiscoNinja> mumpitzel, it didn't work! so, the page i want to dump before i login the url is "https://www.site.net/members/login.cfm?hpage=LACP_Port_Modes.cfm" and after i login it is "http://www.site.net/members/LACP_Port_Modes.cfm"
[13:29] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: Ok, open the catalyst control center (if you are using the proprietary drivers), then look for the overscan slider.
[13:30] <Isodoom> Hi, I have problem to install Ubuntu with wubi: errot: substring not found. :(
 i got this Sorry, the installation of this driver failed.
[13:30] <Kai_p_IE> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> Isodoom  wubi is a windows application, it's not a real installation, better install ubuntu on its own partition, next to windows, not inside windows
[13:31] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: Ok, can you put the contents of /var/log/jockey.log to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Isodoom, why use wubi? if you want to dual boot, install a proper dual boot.  if you only want to test ubuntu, install virtualbox for windows and put ubuntu in a virtual machine
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> Isodoom  wubi will give you headaches and you will think Ubuntu is no good
[13:32] <mumpitzel> CiscoNinja: if it uses non standard login methods you need to write your own script to dump it
[13:32] <mumpitzel> then normal methods like wget won't work
 dont seem to hsve jockey
[13:34] <Isodoom> Ok, will do like this.
[13:35] <cfhowlett> Isodoom, "this" ? meaning? ...
[13:36] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: open a terminal, type "jockey-gtk" . Does your graphics card come up in that list?
[13:36] <lizheng> #china
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !cn|lizheng,
[13:37] <Isodoom> cfhowlett, sry, I mean I will do like the people say ^^*
[13:37] <lizheng> ？？
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|Isodoom, ah.  OK.
 http://pastebin.com/7agYKRx9
[13:37] <lizheng> 呵呵，谢谢
[13:37] <Random832> !cn | lizheng
[13:37] <lizheng> tnxu
[13:37] <lizheng> ok
[13:38] <lizheng> #china-cn
[13:38] <mumpitzel> !pm | gord_
[13:38] <Isodoom> Thx :D
 3D-accelerated proprietary graphics driver for ATI cards.
[13:39] <Kai_p_IE> This driver is required to fully utilise the 3D potential of some ATI graphics cards, as well as provide 2D acceleration of newer cards.
[13:40] <jpmh> on my laptop I use "encrypted home folder" on my desktop I use encfs.  Each machine periodically syncs from a cloud store using rsync.  It seems that the overhead of encrypted home folders is HUGE, it takes 3 mins, the desktop 30 seconds.  Both machines have similar hardware specs.  Is there a performace hit with encrypted home directory
[13:40] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: Yes. Is that driver activated?
[13:40] <kurtcoke> Where can I get the source code for the Amazon Integration Ubuntu spyware?
 nope
[13:40] <cfhowlett> kurtcoke, ubuntu source is available.  "spyware" is a misnomer, but feel free to examine the ubuntu code
[13:40] <Ampelbein> kurtcoke: https://code.launchpad.net/unity-lens-shopping
[13:40] <mumpitzel> kurtcoke: apt-get source <package>
[13:41] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: Ok. Activate it.
 i cant
[13:41] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: Ok. Exit the program, type "sudo jockey-gtk". Does it work now?`
[13:41] <kurtcoke> cfhowlett: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[13:41] <Kai_p_IE> Sorry, the installation of this driver failed.
[13:41] <Kai_p_IE> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[13:41] <kurtcoke> Ampelbein: THanks
 nope still geting  "check the logs"
[13:43] <joshu> anyone know how to get xbindkeys to work when startng a lightdm session, e.g. in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf I have session-setuo-script=/path/to/myscript. my script has xbindkeys &. But the keys don't work
[13:44] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: Ok.
[13:44] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: There should be a menu option for "additional drivers". I don't use Unity, so I don't know where to look.
 i M IN THERE
[13:45] <Kai_p_IE> sorry
[13:46] <smaug42_> Here's an interesting problem.  I've got a tablet PC with a Bluetooth keyboard.  I can connect it if I put it in pairing mode and use hidd --connect at the command line (which is hard to do without a second keyboard). I cannot pair it. They keyboard generates a PIN, and it's 50/50 I can see the PIN, and 100% fail on entering the pin.
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> smaug42_: is it running ubuntu?
[13:47] <smaug42_> lotuspsychje: yes at the moment
[13:47] <Ampelbein> Kai_p_IE: I can't help you further. Maybe restart and go into "Additional Drivers" again?
 i am there but i keep geting the same box
[13:47] <Kai_p_IE> k
[13:47] <smaug42_> lotuspsychje: same results/behaviour on all ubuntu derivatives...
[13:50] <alesibaia> hello
[13:50] <cfhowlett> alesibaia, greetings
[13:50] <ikonia> Ampelbein: did you ever get that sources.list pastebin ?
[13:51] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Nope. He probably had some ubuntu derivative that isn't supported here.
[13:52] <dixoncx> Hi all.. I need to convert some music files from .ape (Monkeys Audio) to flacc. Can i use ffmpeg ? or something else?
[13:53] <dixoncx> Hi all.. I need to convert some music files from .ape (Monkeys Audio) to flac. Can i use ffmpeg ? or something else?
[13:53] <alesibaia> anyone here speak Portuguese
[13:53] <DJones> !pt | alesibaia
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> dixoncx  winff is a GUI for ffmpeg, find it in the repos
[13:53] <cfhowlett> dixoncx, ffmpeg would be the tool to try.
[13:54] <LambdaDusk> does anyone know if in avconv, is it possible to convert h264 -> libx264 without loss of quality? -c:v copy refuses to work at all
[13:55] <cfhowlett> LambdaDusk, I haven't converted those exact codes but I transcoded an HD video without degradation so ...
[13:56] <LambdaDusk> cfhowlett: I would use -c:v copy but it refuses to work, when I use -c:v libx264 it works fine... do you know which arguments to give to have maximum possible quality?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> LambdaDusk, sorry I don't know but #ubuntudio would be a good place to ask
[13:57] <dixoncx> Ok, i tried in ffmpeg, it works.. "ffmpeg -i song.ape song.flac". But will it be exact copy / same quality ? Or do i need to specify any additional options ?
[13:58] <LambdaDusk> cfhowlett: That's an empty chat
[13:58] <mumpitzel> LambdaDusk: #ubuntustudio perhaps then?
[13:58] <DJones> !studio | LambdaDusk
[13:59] <mumpitzel> dixoncx: converting lossless to lossless. just think
[13:59] <Lynoure> Ubuntu has no easy way to get BPM into music file tags?
[14:00] <Lynoure> Actually, a harder way would also do, as long as I don't have to manually click out the beat for the songs
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> Lynoure: maybe this can help?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86113/how-can-i-detect-the-bpm-beats-per-minute-of-a-song
[14:01] <DJones> Lynoure: I don't know if its been suggested (or even if it has the capeability) but I've used Easytag in the past which seemed to have quite a lot of options
[14:02] <dixoncx> mumpitzel, Hmm, i got it...:) thanks..
[14:02] <OerHeks> there is bpm and beats per minute.
[14:04] <Lynoure> OerHeks: where?
[14:05] <Lynoure> DJones: installing that to see.
[14:05] <OerHeks> Lynoure, bpm is metadata, beats per minute you need to calculate each mp3
[14:06] <Lynoure> lotuspsychje: some of the sets of tools that were recommended downstream from there no longer existed, but some others still seem online.
[14:07] <mumpitzel> OerHeks: huh? bpm has nothing to do with the mp3 format. it is important for the music but NOT digital representation of that music. the mp3 only cares about things like frequencies, sample rates, etc
[14:07] <Lynoure> OerHeks: quite many do shorten the latter into BPM (not bpm).
[14:08] <Lynoure> OerHeks: Recommendations for the tools, too?
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> !info easytag > lotuspsychje
[14:08] <pitoow> deluge is closing by itself on my ubuntu 12.04. what can be happening?
[14:09] <randomaussie> hi all... i'm being infuriated by getting my nvidia drivers working... been trying for days... i keep getting the error "you do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. blah blah" doesnt seem to matter what i do i cant fix this.... someone please help me
[14:09] <FrankD> anyone here have experience with openswan/xl2tpd?
[14:09] <gord_> Sorry I don't even know how to reply here.  Need help with that too <|8-(
[14:09] <mumpitzel> randomaussie: what hardware? is optimus involved?
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> !tab | gord_
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> pitoow: can you try starting deluge from terminal, maybe to see an error?
[14:10] <gord_> ubottu: Thanks I needed that!
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | randomaussie
[14:11] <randomaussie> mumpitzel: i have an asus eeepc 1205n, usees an ion2 chipset.. i believe it does use the optimus hardware... i'v been following guides with cuda, or bumblebee drivers. and i just cant seem to get it all working
[14:11] <mumpitzel> randomaussie: it does not use optimus.
[14:12] <mumpitzel> bumblebee is wrong and so is using cuda which is not for videocard output
[14:12] <labsin> Lynoure,  you can also try `apt-cache search mp3 tag`in the therminal. It'll give all the apps in your repositorys that have mp3 and tag in the description.
[14:12] <mumpitzel> randomaussie: you will need a very old nvidia driver since you have a very old nvidia chip
[14:12] <mumpitzel> randomaussie: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[14:12] <Lynoure> labsin: the tagging is less of a problem, detecting the beats per minute more.
[14:13] <randomaussie> mumpitzel: i'm pretty sure it does cause windows reported it as a intel chipset yet it could still do nvidia stuff
[14:14] <GiantGrubber> Hi.
[14:14] <Lynoure> DJones: Could not find BPM in easytag, though it otherwise looks pretty fine for tagging.
[14:14] <labsin> Lynource: that'll be up to the music library software then? I remember that I had many problems with getting my ratings synced in my ID3 tags. It seems that there are so many different tags for the same purpouse.
[14:15] <GiantGrubber> GRUB says can't find GRLDR, keeps the error for 15 seconds, then goes into using stage files and loads fine
[14:15] <gord_> mumpitzel:  I get the following message after smbclient -l= Printer10 "Unable to open new log file 'Printer10/log.smbclient': No such file or directory exists
[14:15] <FrankD> http://pastebin.com/SHNPWQsp <-- any ideas?
[14:15] <GiantGrubber> How do I reduce the wait from 15 seconds?
[14:16] <Lynoure> labsin: well, my files don't have that info to start with, I'm pretty sure. I don't think standard ripping does that
[14:16] <GiantGrubber> I know how to reduce the menu wait, but not the error wait
[14:16] <randomaussie> mumpitzel: paste.ubuntu.com/5921830
[14:16] <mumpitzel> gord_: that's nice but I didn't write anything about -l. -L and -l are different things, linux is case sensitive
[14:18] <gord_> mumpitzel: So the command I'm to use would be smbclient -L=Printer10 ?
[14:18] <labsin> Lynoure, so you wan't to find the bmp of your audio and put them in the tags so you can easily find good workout music or something like that?
[14:19] <mumpitzel> randomaussie: these are all drivers for current geforce cards. you have a very old geforce 9400M from 5 years ago. you need something like a nvidia 173.x or 180.x driver. NOT a 303.x version
[14:19] <mumpitzel> gord_: no. smbclient -L <ip of server>
[14:20] <mumpitzel> gord_: that's for simply checking if the printer is shared, can be seen, the password/username is right, etc
[14:20] <GiantGrubber> mumpitzel: Do you know how to make Grub show the error for a shorter time?
[14:20] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: what error? if there is an error it simply won't work and shows the error forever
[14:20] <GiantGrubber> can't find grldr - that is the error
[14:21] <randomaussie> mumpitzel.. ok the default repository has drivers of that erra
[14:21] <GiantGrubber> but after 15 seconds, it works finely with stagefiles
[14:21] <GiantGrubber> :O
[14:21] <mumpitzel> randomaussie: uninstall all the shit from nvidia you have installed so far first
[14:22] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: are you using uefi?
[14:22] <GiantGrubber> BIOS machine here, mumpitzel
[14:22] <GiantGrubber> AMI BIOS
[14:22] <jost> So, I've built this FakeRAID 1 on my machine. I've marked the Array for rebuild in the RAID management tool of the BIOS, but that was finished within some seconds. How would I trigger a real rebuild?
[14:22] <randomaussie> mumpitzel: yeah already on that... i'll get back to you after i install the drivers
[14:22] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: you are using grub4dos?
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> GiantGrubber: thats grub4dos loader right?
[14:23] <GiantGrubber> EXT2 HDD
[14:23] <Lynoure> labsin: yes, so that I can choose music for my dance students that slow enough for them, without listening through all.
[14:23] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: if so, use the ubuntu grub2. or ask for support with grub4dos folks. not us
[14:23] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: you answer questions no one has asked. please don't do that
[14:23] <eaxxae> anyone here running ubuntu on their macbook pro ?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> !mac | eaxxae
[14:24] <eaxxae> ubottu: I've read those... thanks.
[14:24] <GiantGrubber> mumpitzel: The Grub1.9
[14:24] <eaxxae> lotuspsychje, read em.. ty.
[14:24] <GiantGrubber> Grub channel is of no help, and it's not g4d
[14:24] <gord_> mumpitzel: OK got it and yes it sees the printer but I get this.  Called name not present
[14:25] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: how did you install grub2 then?
[14:25] <CommunistChina> hey
[14:25] <GiantGrubber> It's Grub1.9-something
[14:25] <CommunistChina> is 20k turnover good for a business for 1 month
[14:25] <Bosi> Hello everyone, can anyone give me a help? I have an iPod Shuffle 4th gen and I'd like to use it on Linux... but gtkpod does not support this version... is there another software that might work with it?
[14:25] <labsin> Lynoure, you could look into bpm-tools (just found it when searching the ubuntu repository's) At least that's what the discription says. It uses the ID3v2 libs so I guess you could directly write the tags somehow.
[14:25] <DJones> CommunistChina: This is Ubuntu support
[14:25] <CommunistChina> and??
[14:25] <DJones> !ot | CommunistChina
[14:26] <GiantGrubber> well, I am trying to avoid the error, as AFTER the 15 seconds, it works just fine
[14:27] <ozzloy> i got 99 problems and bluetooth is one.
[14:27] <Pessimist> Can someone give me tips for ubuntu power management? Intel i5 cpu with hd4000 integrated graphics. The battery lasts for 3 hours max even when I reclock my cpu to 1,2GHz and lower the brightness
[14:27] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: grldr is part of grub4ods. so if you don't use it, you have no problem. and if you do use grub4dos you need to ask them for support, not us.... see what the problem is?
[14:27] <GiantGrubber> Yet Grub load sequence ASKS for it
[14:27] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: so install the ubuntu grub to your harddisk MBR and be done with it. if you then have problems, then you can get support here
[14:27] <ozzloy> my bluetooth headset isn't working.  i tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup but the instructions are old.  can someone help me troubleshoot my bluetooth headset which was working until just a few days ago?
[14:28] <dirtydaw1> hello all
[14:28] <mumpitzel> GiantGrubber: cause you have installed grub4dos some time in the past
[14:28] <labsin> Lynoure, the tools are: bpm, bpm-graph and bpm-tag. All terminal applications. You can install then and try them out with 'sudo apt-get install bpm-tools'
[14:28] <eaxxae> anyone ever able to run a screensaver on just one display ?
[14:30] <Pessimist> !powermanagement
[14:30] <Pessimist> !pm
[14:31] <dirtydaw1> csn snyone help im very new to linux and tried using apt-get install for xchat and it couldnt find said proggram how do i know what depository xchat is located in?
[14:31] <sharpshooter> hi friends how to re-install ubuntu os with out deleting my application ?
[14:31] <DJones> !info xchat
[14:31] <jrib> dirtydaw1: it's in universe
[14:31] <dirtydaw1> ^^ flash drive
[14:32] <jrib> sharpshooter: what application?  Why do you want to reinstall ubuntu os?
[14:32] <sharpshooter> with out deleting installed applications
[14:32] <dirtydaw1> what do you mean by the universe?
[14:32] <jrib> !repos | dirtydaw1
[14:32] <dirtydaw1> ^^ tyvm
[14:33] <sharpshooter> jrib:  with out deleting installed applications
[14:33] <jrib> sharpshooter: and my second question?
[14:34] <Lynoure> labsin: I installed the bpm-tools manually, got Unable to locate package bpm-tools from trying to apt-get it.
[14:34] <labsin> Lynoure, What version of ubuntu do you have?
[14:35] <smgordon> theres a screen saver?  where does one find that ?
[14:35] <mumpitzel> smgordon: apt-cache search screesaver
[14:35] <mumpitzel> smgordon: apt-cache search screensaver  rather
[14:36] <sharpshooter> jrib:  last few days I'm having issues in my ubuntu os 13.04. after 10 - 20 min of login the os is freezing and the mouse is working but and I can also use the alt+ctrl+f1 login
[14:36] <Lynoure> labsin: raring
[14:37] <jrib> sharpshooter: start by replicating your issue on a fresh new user account.  If it persists there, change video drivers.  If it still persists, see if it happens on a live cd
[14:37] <mumpitzel> sharpshooter: so you're still getting freezes with the old kernel?
[14:37] <smgordon> mumpitzel: not sure what to do with that . terminal?
[14:38] <mumpitzel> smgordon: yes. that searches for a screensaver in the ubuntu repositories
[14:38] <sharpshooter> mumpitzel:  yeah I reinstalled the video drivers from this ppa  ppa:xorg-edgers
[14:38] <Lynoure> labsin: 13.04, that is. and both partner, universe and  multiverse repos enabled.
[14:38] <labsin> Lynoure, it seems to be only in sausy. You can try the buid for sausy. I think it'll do just fine. For AMD64: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/145499041/bpm-tools_0.3-1_amd64.deb i386: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/145498985/bpm-tools_0.3-1_i386.deb
[14:40] <Lynoure> labsin: thanks.
[14:40] <labsin> Lynoure, To be able to use it, you'd also need libsox-fmt-all. It's not required, but I needed it to be able to use mp3 files with it
[14:41] <sharpshooter> jrib:   not tried with fresh user account but tried reinstalling the drivers (not the perfect solution but now the time to freeze is around 1 or 2 hour) and also tried with  live session (dont have the freezing issue with live session)
[14:41] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. My install of postgresql became messed up, so I tried to `purge` and re-`install` it with apt-get, but the installation gives me an error: "Error: could not create default cluster. Please create it manually with  pg_createcluster 9.1 main --start"  -- But that command fails with "Error: move_conffile: required configuration file /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf does not exist"
[14:41] <linelevel> Can anyone please help?
[14:42] <mumpitzel> sharpshooter: why did you install the videodriver from a ppa on a machine with problems?
[14:42] <jrib> linelevel: did you at some point decide to delete files manually without using apt?
[14:42] <linelevel> jrib: Yes :-(   Accidentally, but carelessly.
[14:42] <jrib> linelevel: dpkg -S /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf
[14:43] <linelevel> jrib: What I deleted was actually not in /var but in /etc/postgresql/ (that entire dir tree) and /etc/postgresql-common/
[14:44] <jrib> linelevel: ok, run « dpkg -S /etc/postgresql » then
[14:44] <sharpshooter> mumpitzel:  I just found the similar issue in this post : http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error and after installing drivers from this ppa the system only freezing 1 or 2 time maximum
[14:44] <Lynoure> labsin: already got that
[14:44] <Lynoure> labsin: lynoure@lalli:~/Audio/Zouk$ find . -type f -name "*.mp3" -exec bpm-tag {} \;   and now I am quite happy
[14:45] <linelevel> jrib: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/postgresql.
[14:45] <labsin> Lynoure, I'd first try bmp-tag -f -n on a few to see if it's actually accurate.
[14:45] <jrib> linelevel: grep etc/postgresql /var/lib/dpkg/info/postgresql*
[14:46] <dirtydaw1> whats bmp?
[14:47] <Lynoure> labsin: the number looks plausible, at least.
[14:47] <randomaussie> mumpitzel: ok runnnig 173 version of nvidia driveres... still having the same issue does it matter what shell i'm running?
[14:47] <Lynoure> dirtydaw1: how many beats a song has, in a minute.
[14:48] <dirtydaw1> ahh thought you was being linux related lol
[14:49] <mumpitzel> randomaussie: what issue exactly?
[14:49] <mumpitzel> randomaussie: check if your nvidia driver is loaded: lsmod |grep nvidia
[14:49] <dirtydaw1> just out of interest gents are the repositorys safe from damaging fies ie im not going to download a corrupted file / trojan/ malware? they are all trusted?
[14:50] <auronandace> dirtydaw1: the official repos are all fine
[14:50] <jrib> linelevel: any results?
[14:50] <dirtydaw1> how do you know if your d/l from a trusted source ? im very new so im sorry if this is day one qeustions
[14:50] <linelevel> jrib: http://pastebin.com/0BiUApSG
[14:51] <jrib> linelevel: alright, purge and then install again the following packages: postgresql-9.1, postgresql-client-common, postgresql-common
[14:51] <auronandace> dirtydaw1: if you are installing anything from outside the official repos thats your job to assess whether or not they are trustworthy
[14:51] <auronandace> dirtydaw1: we only support what is in the official repos here
[14:52] <jrib> linelevel: for the "install again" part you just need to install postgresql, you don't need to specify all those packages
[14:52] <dirtydaw1> agreed wasnt sure how you slect different repos though so thought by usigbn apt-get i was openign up to possible danger
[14:52] <linelevel> jrib: Okay, I've tried that before with everything other than `postgresql-client-common` -- let me try it this way.
[14:53] <linelevel> jrib: I got "dpkg: warning: while removing postgresql-common, directory '/var/lib/postgresql' not empty so not removed." -- Is that okay?
[14:53] <z8z> dirtydaw1: If you want 100% safe paranoid trusted packages upgrade those trough dvd every new bugfix release
[14:53] <jrib> linelevel: that's ok.  What's in /var/lib/postgresql now?
[14:54] <jrib> linelevel: hold off on the "install again" part
[14:54] <dirtydaw1> tyvm z8z is there ever a need to use non offical repos?
[14:55] <auronandace> dirtydaw1: if there is something you require and it isn't in the repos then its up to you
[14:55] <linelevel> jrib: http://pastebin.com/KwvRDZ5b
[14:55] <z8z> dirtydaw1: I don't do because i'm quite paranoid on that but sometimes if you know developer team you can do
[14:56] <z8z> dirtydaw1: But is up to you then
[14:56] <dirtydaw1> thankyou all very much a new endeavour this linux life so very fresh faced atm all will sink in in time anyone reccommend a good linux forum i can embedd myself with?
[14:56] <jrib> linelevel: do dpkg -S there.  If nothing gets returned, rename /var/lib/postgresql
[14:56] <z8z> dirtydaw1: There are many useful software that are not included in official just because too small and not trusted by ubuntu team
[14:57] <linelevel> jrib: Same error as earlier. I ran: sudo mv /var/lib/postgresql/ /var/lib/postgresql.bak
[14:57] <linelevel> Should I install postgresql now?
[14:57] <z8z> dirtydaw1: wondering why some other superbugged are trusted though.......  like "Krusader"
[14:58] <jrib> linelevel: alright
[14:58] <linelevel> jrib: /etc/postgresql/ still exists too, but it's empty.
[14:58] <Nickolas> I am trying to uninstall apache but when i run apt-get purge apache it says cannot remove virtual packages like apache
[14:58] <jrib> linelevel: that should be ok, but you can rename too if you'd like
[14:58] <Nickolas> how do i uninstal apache?
[14:58] <jrib> Nickolas: why do you want to uninstall it?
[14:58] <linelevel> jrib: Okay, so install time?
[14:58] <Nickolas> Need to reinstall
[14:58] <Nickolas> kinda broke it
[14:58] <jrib> Nickolas: why?
[14:59] <jrib> linelevel: yep
[14:59] <jrib> Nickolas: broke it how?
[14:59] <dirtydaw1> can you only run the apt-get command while in the /bin dir?
[14:59] <jrib> dirtydaw1: no
[14:59] <jrib> !path | dirtydaw1
[15:00] <dirtydaw1> tyvm
[15:00] <linelevel> jrib: It appears to be working. Thanks!
[15:00] <Nickolas> tried to reconfig it to for transfering files jrib
[15:00] <jrib> Nickolas: do you care about saving any old configuration?
[15:00] <jrib> linelevel: good luck ;)
[15:00] <Nickolas> jrib,  i want everything totally gone and a fresh start
[15:00] <jrib> Nickolas: sudo apt-get purge apache2.2-common; then you can install apache2 again
[15:01] <smgordon> mumpitzel: thank You .. works
[15:01] <smgordon> brb
[15:01] <Nickolas> thanks jrib
[15:03] <Nickolas> jrib, would you know the key differences between postfix and sendmail?
[15:03] <jrib> Nickolas: there different programs for the same thing, like chromium and firefox.  I'm not familiar with the subtleties
[15:04] <jrib> they're*
[15:04] <jrib> Nickolas: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/email-services.html there should also be guides on help.ubuntu.com/community for each
[15:04] <Nickolas> as far as i know they do exactly the same am trying to choose one, and then configure it, why i tried using sendmail things didn't go so great but it may be bc im anoob
[15:04] <Nickolas> lol
[15:05] <Nickolas> thanks ill check it out
[15:05] <jrib> Nickolas: I've always used exim
[15:05] <Nickolas> exim for mail?
[15:06] <Nickolas> jrib, would like to set up something like roundcube but not sure how to do that
[15:06] <jrib> Nickolas: I don't know what roundcube is
[15:06] <Nickolas> is like an online thingy
[15:09] <eren> clear
[15:09] <Guest65455> oops
[15:11] <smgordon> like a boomerang its coming back to me  ....
[15:13] <newuserguy> hello, i've just upgraded to13.04 and when the login screen first appeared again i clicked my main account and it only does nothing, plays the lgin sound and sends me back to the login screen
[15:14] <newuserguy> i can, however still log into guest
[15:14] <newuserguy> how do i get back into my main?
[15:15] <Nickolas> jrib, thanks so much for helping me
[15:15] <Nickolas> you have a good day
[15:15] <Nickolas> will probably be back with more noob questions
[15:15] <Nickolas> :P
[15:15] <jrib> Nickolas: bye, you too
[15:16] <newuserguy> basically locked out of my administrator account, and i know the password i have is correct.
[15:16] <jrib> !password | newuserguy
[15:18] <newuserguy> jrib: well, i have not forgotten it, it's just the password isn't working
[15:18] <jrib> newuserguy: reset the password
[15:18] <jrib> newuserguy: or explain what you mean by "isn't working"
[15:20] <newuserguy> jrib:  well, i just upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 and the first time i saw the login screen, i tried logging into my administrator account and the screen just went black for a second then sent me back to login
[15:20] <jrib> newuserguy: that's not a password issue
[15:20] <newuserguy> jrib: right now it's set to require no login password so i just hit enter and it does the same thing
[15:20] <yeats> newuserguy: sounds like a configuration issue if the guest account works
[15:21] <newuserguy> jrib: oh... yeah im on guest currently in recovery mode...  yeats
[15:21] <yeats> newuserguy: you could try creating a new user for yourself, then moving the files back over once you're logged in
[15:21] <jrib> newuserguy: create a fresh new user in a virtual console (ctrl-alt-f2), then return to lightdm (ctrl-alt-f1) and log in there with the new user
[15:21] <newuserguy> how do i create new user in virtual console?
[15:22] <jrib> newuserguy: adduser mycoolnewuser
[15:31] <jost> Hi... I've still got some problems with my FakeRAID 1 setup. The bootloader now works correctly, and Ubuntu boots. But it does not find my disks - on the recovery console I can see that they are not available in /dev/mapper yet.
[15:32] <jost> whats the reason, and how to solve that?
[15:32] <ikonia> jost: I find it hard to believe ubuntu boots without the disks
[15:32] <ikonia> jost: please clarify
[15:34] <jost> ikonia: it boots, but gives the message "the partition to be mounted as /home is not yet available. Continue to wait, press S to Skip mounting and Press M for a recovery console"
[15:34] <ikonia> jost: any what do you press ?
[15:35] <jost> if I go into the console, the devices are not there under /dev/mapper. If I skip mounting, I get the login prompt (graphical), but can't log in on it. Using a console interface, I can log in (with / as HOME), and mount the devices without a problem
[15:36] <jost> so it seems there is something done out of order, but I can't tell what
[15:36] <ikonia> jost: is your core OS on the fakeraid ?
[15:36] <jost> ikonia: yes
[15:37] <ikonia> jost: ok, so the fakeraid is being assembled as you can boot the OS, but the home partition is not
[15:37] <jost> and just now, the devices were available in the recovery console?!
[15:37] <ikonia> jost: have you got 1 fakeraid device, or multiple ?
[15:37] <chunkyhead> does anyone know how to patch wine
[15:37] <jost> one RAID 1
[15:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: it needs to be rebuilt
[15:37] <ikonia> jost: ok, so it sounds to me like it's not booting off fake raid
[15:37] <auronandace> chunkyhead: ask in #winehq
[15:37] <chunkyhead> so i finished downloading wine, downloaded the patch as well. now what to do
[15:38] <chunkyhead> auronandace, people not replying :( no one online i guess
[15:38] <jost> ikonia: Oh, and I have told the fake raid to rebuild
[15:38] <ikonia> jost: can you boot to recovery mode please and do "mount"
[15:38] <jost> but can't see any process indication anywhere
[15:38] <ikonia> jost: see what / is mounted from
[15:38] <jost> mom
[15:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: wine would need to be rebuilt.
[15:38] <chunkyhead> ikonia, how do i do that
[15:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: it's not a simple process
[15:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: where did you get wine from ?
[15:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, i dont remember lol. i guess i just typed sudo apt-get install winehq
[15:39] <chunkyhead> i dont remember though
[15:39] <tempted> quick question, i run a headless server that I constantly ssh into, just tired of typing 192.169... is there a way to make it so I can just type ssh tempted@media ?
[15:39] <deadweasel> Hey guys, anyone know what's up with Transmission-gt?  I did a fresh install and the software center version is virtually unresponsive.  It will come back to life every few minutes...
[15:39] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so that's going to get Wine from the ubuntu repos, you'd need to totally re-package and rebuild wine for that patch to be applied, which is not something to be undertook lightly
[15:40] <deadweasel> 12.04 lts
[15:40] <ikonia> tempted: setup an entry in your host file
[15:40] <tempted> thought so...
[15:40] <tempted> ok
[15:40] <jrib> tempted: yes!  man ssh_config.  Let me know if you have questions or want an example
[15:40] <Voi> ming
[15:40] <chunkyhead> ikonia, downloading wine tarball would be easier?
[15:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: no
[15:40] <jost> ikonia: / is mounted from the fakeRaid (/dev/mapper/nvidia_blah1 on / type ext4,rw,errors=remount-ro is the line)
[15:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: that would also be unwise
[15:40] <chunkyhead> ikonia, any solution?
[15:40] <tempted> can't wait to put this in, so painful
[15:40] <ikonia> jost: how can that be when you've told me /dev/mapper is empty
[15:40] <gord_> Got the printer working!  It's all in a name!
[15:41] <auronandace> chunkyhead: why do you want to patch wine?
[15:41] <Sylario> I have an empty /var/lib/dpkg, every apt-get command fails (not surprising), how can i reinstall Dpkg?
[15:41] <ikonia> Sylario: why do you want to re-install dpkg ?
[15:41] <jrib> tempted: you could also go with the hosts file route, but using ~/.ssh/config will let you do things like also setup options you always want to be set when you ssh
[15:41] <chunkyhead> auronandace, certain windows application require wine to be patched
[15:41] <Sylario> ikonia: because it seems the install folder is empty
[15:41] <jost> ikonia: its not anymore, everything is there - the system behavior seems to change over time
[15:41] <ikonia> Sylario: re-install dpkg won't change that
[15:41] <Sylario> ikonia : :/
[15:41] <ikonia> Sylario: what is the error when you use an apt-get command
[15:41] <Sylario> ikonia : what can i do?
[15:42] <auronandace> chunkyhead: are you sure that patch isn't already in the wine thats used in ubuntus repos?
[15:42] <ikonia> jost: it was probably just rebuilding
[15:42] <jost> and I can manually mount /home now, but it does not happen automatically
[15:42] <Sylario> ikonia: E: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)
[15:42] <Sylario> ikonia: status file does not exist
[15:42] <Sylario> ikonia: the folder is empty
[15:42] <Ampelbein> Sylario: In /var/backups there are saved backups of the dpkg status file
[15:42] <chunkyhead> auronandace, yea. because im getting an error. and on wine page it says you'll get this error unless it's patched
[15:43] <ikonia> Sylario: what happened to empty this ?
[15:43] <Sylario> Amandil: there is no backup folder,
[15:43] <auronandace> chunkyhead: out of curiosity whats the app?
[15:43] <Ampelbein> Sylario: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[15:43] <Sylario> ikonia: i do not know, there was a problem, i've been given access, nobody  knows what happened
[15:43] <Sylario> Ampelbein: a server version
[15:43] <chunkyhead> league of legends auronandace
[15:43] <ikonia> Sylario: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[15:44] <ikonia> Sylario: and I suggest if you do have an idea what happened you share it please.
[15:44] <Ampelbein> Sylario: ... What does "lsb_release -d" say
[15:44] <auronandace> chunkyhead: what you want to do isn't straightforward for somebody who doesn't know how to compile anything
[15:44] <spanner3003> how do i  export kernel header file on ubuntu 13.04
[15:44] <ikonia> spanner3003: export it ?
[15:44] <auronandace> chunkyhead: #winehq should help you with that
[15:44] <Sylario> Ampelbein: Description:    Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[15:44]  * rusbear is using a I7500 running Android 2.2.1 (FRG83)
[15:45] <ikonia> Sylario: please show me the output of uname -a
[15:45] <ikonia> rusbear: please diable that script
[15:45] <tempted> think I will need an example of /etc/hosts, i put in the ip.. 192.168.0.19 a couple of spaces and put the name... then when I type tempted@media, nothing happens.
[15:45] <tempted> must be missing something
[15:45] <ikonia> tempted: you need to type "ssh tempted@media"
[15:45] <ikonia> tempted: you still need "ssh"
[15:45] <tempted> that's what i did
[15:45] <ikonia> tempted: pastebin your host file please.
[15:45] <tempted> sry.
[15:45] <Sylario> ikonia: Linux stagingserver 2.6.27-gandi-2777 #14 SMP Sun Jan 17 19:09:24 CET 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:45] <spanner3003> how do i  export header files from the kernel on ubuntu 13.04
[15:45] <ikonia> Sylario: yeah, this isn't an ubuntu build
[15:46] <ikonia> Sylario: this is a custom build someone has put together, probably from some virtual image
[15:46] <deadweasel> i just tried qtransmission also, it has the same symptoms, unrespnosive for 30+ seconds at a time....
[15:46] <spanner3003> for use in android building
[15:46] <ikonia> spanner3003: what do you mean "export them"
[15:46] <jrib> tempted: here's what my ~/.ssh/config would look like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5922112/
[15:46]  * tempted feels stupid.. wrong ip..
[15:47] <tempted> i got it.
[15:47] <tempted> thanks guys
[15:47] <tempted> such a simple thing so make my life easier..  amen to screen, ssh and irssi!
[15:47] <spanner3003> to userspace
[15:47] <Sylario> So, how can i put back what is needed in /var/lib/dpkg ?
[15:47] <ikonia> spanner3003: you're not making any sense
[15:47] <ikonia> Sylario: is this a vps ?
[15:47] <Sylario> ikonia: Yes
[15:48] <ikonia> Sylario: talk to the people who host/sell the vps to you
[15:48] <ikonia> Sylario: they should support it - it's a custom build
[15:48] <JoeSomebody> hp 530 laptop intel 950 graphics (vista basic) under kde is a video nightmare, will that work ok here?
[15:48] <Ampelbein> Sylario: http://www.solengtech.com/solengtech/opensource/howto-repair-ubuntu-dpkg-status-file You can try that script. It's the only way to get dpkg status information back.
[15:48] <Ampelbein> Sylario: Since it's not a static file but dynamically generated by dpkg upon installing/removing packages.
[15:49] <Ampelbein> Sylario: Your vps host will probably not be able to help you either since it's clearly not a kernel problem.
[15:49] <spanner3003> i need file msm_kgsl.h for my build project
[15:49] <Sylario> ikonia: infortunately they do not support it if you need to be root, you need root to install , so they do not support
[15:49] <ikonia> Ampelbein: who said it being anything about a kernel problem
[15:49] <ikonia> Ampelbein: this is a custom ubuntu build we don't know what has / has not been changed
[15:49] <ikonia> Sylario: then you need to buy support of it
[15:50] <ikonia> Sylario: this is a custom - non standard ubuntu build we don't know what's standard, what's not
[15:50] <Ampelbein> ikonia: You really think they changed how dpkg works? Like, the most basic program in any debian/ubuntu installation?
[15:50] <ikonia> Ampelbein: no, I don't think they changed that, but I have seen things changed with the package managagment system to stop packages being installed, or shared /var/lib/dpkg to make sure certain things are in place
[15:51] <Sylario> They do not sell support ...
[15:51] <ikonia> Sylario: who is the hosting provider ?
[15:51] <Sylario> Gandi
[15:52] <Ampelbein> Sylario: Again, http://www.solengtech.com/solengtech/opensource/howto-repair-ubuntu-dpkg-status-file try that script to repopulate your status file - if the information in /var/lib/dpkg/info is still intact.
[15:52] <Sylario> Ampelbein: i'm doing that
[15:53] <Sylario> Amandil: the info folder is no longer here
[15:53] <Amandil> mhmm
[15:53] <Amandil> ah
[15:53] <Ampelbein> Sylario: Then you are out of luck and need to restore from your backup.
[15:53] <Amandil> fail
[15:54] <ikonia> Sylario: https://www.gandi.net/hosting/vps/emergencyline
[15:54] <Sylario> Ampelbein: there is only backup of the website and databases, i guess it will be a fun reinstall....
[15:54] <Ampelbein> Sylario: Unless you have software depending on 10.04, you should also consider installing Ubuntu 12.04.
[15:55] <Sylario> Ampelbein: i think i'll buy another server and nuke this one
[15:55] <ikonia> Sylario: do you not think it's wise to buy from someone who offers support
[15:56] <ikonia> Sylario: and someone who doesn't do modified ubuntu builds
[15:56] <ikonia> or you'll end up in this situation again
[15:56] <Sylario> ikonia: well i use OVH
[15:56] <ikonia> ovh ?
[15:56] <Sylario> not my choice
[15:57] <mumpitzel> ikonia: ovh is a big european hoster. recently in the news for a password db hack
[15:57] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Where did you get that custom ubuntu build from btw? All I can see is a modified kernel, which is kinda required for cloud server hosting.
[15:57] <Sylario> ikonia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OVH
[15:57] <ikonia> Ampelbein: it's not required at all
[15:57] <Sylario> it's just the world biggest one
[15:57] <ikonia> Sylario: if you need to use them, why are you using gandi.net that offers no support
[15:58] <Sylario> ikonia: again, not my choice
[15:58] <ikonia> actually - I don't care
[15:58] <ikonia> up to you
[15:58] <ikonia> but we don't support the custom builds here
[15:58] <Umair> is there a package to share lcd screen over lan with other computers? I am running ubuntu on laptop.
[15:58] <Sylario> ikonia: not my server, i've been called because i did one of the website some time ago
[15:58] <Ampelbein> ikonia: If the hoster runs xen, yes, of course.
[15:58] <ikonia> Ampelbein: then it would be a xen kernel provided by the distro running xen
[15:58] <ikonia> Ampelbein: no a random custom kernel
[15:59] <mumpitzel> Umair: about a dozen different vnc servers for example
[15:59] <Umair> mumpitzel: any quick to setup and use?
[15:59] <Ampelbein> ikonia: And having a different kernel isn't having a custom ubuntu build, the userspace is most certainly never changed.
[15:59] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Or else you wouldn't be able to use the official repositories.
[16:00] <ikonia> Ampelbein: it is normally changed, hence why I said I've seen things changed with /var/lib/dpkg to lock packages, (as an example)
[16:00] <mumpitzel> Umair: vino probably
[16:00] <ikonia> Ampelbein: I've often seen custom packages installed that conflict with the ubuntu repo ones breaking compatability
[16:00] <ikonia> hence why we do'nt support the custom vps builds
[16:00] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Well, ok, I only have experience with amazon, ofh and jiffybox, so I don't know about all.
[16:00] <ikonia> Ampelbein: amazon is a good example of not using custom kernels
[16:00] <ikonia> or changing anything
[16:01] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Exactly.
[16:01] <Ampelbein> Not changing the userspace.
[16:01] <ikonia> it changes nothing
[16:01] <ikonia> hence why there is no need to change anything in these cloud builds that are appearing more often and have sloppy custom builds in
[16:02] <amal> hi
[16:03] <Ampelbein> ikonia: For amazon, we in ubuntu provide the "custom" kernels. But you can't just take the normal run-of-the-mill kernel to run an amazon instance.
[16:04] <ikonia> Ampelbein: yes, so it's official from the official repos, and compatible.
[16:04] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Well, that means that only amazon cloud services would be supported in here.
[16:04] <ikonia> Ampelbein: no it doesn't there are generic -virtual kernels in the repo
[16:05] <Ampelbein> ikonia: Can you tell me a VPS provider who changed /var/lib/dpkg ? I'd be really interested to see how they do it.
[16:05] <ikonia> Ampelbein: not off the top of my head.
[16:05] <ikonia> Ampelbein: and they just mounted a read only partition from a shared disk
[16:06] <ikonia> to stop people making changes to the package lists
[16:06] <dirtydaw1> hello all :)
[16:07] <Ampelbein> ikonia: That doesn't seem to make sense to be honest. Unless it's some weird managed server, who buys a virtual server without access to the packaging system?
[16:07] <ikonia> Ampelbein: you'd be surprised
[16:07] <tonyt> are there any ubuntu releases that install the OS with ati vid card drivers too ?
[16:07] <ikonia> tonyt: they are available, just not installed by default
[16:08] <joe> cool. I just got warty running on a VM
[16:08] <tonyt> k . ive been having a problum . every time i go to install the vid card drivers and then reboot the machine , i get a black screen and an error from the lcd im using "out of range"
[16:09] <tonyt> its like a resolution is set that is higher than what my lcd is capeable of
[16:13] <FrankD> uhh
[16:13] <FrankD> do you use VGA?
[16:14] <Voi> i got some executable  ~/j64-701/bin/jconsole and i want to start it in shell without having to cd navigate to that folder first, so by just typing jconsole into shell, how do i do that?
[16:14] <tonyt> yes vga
[16:17] <Ampelbein> !path | Voi
[16:17] <wilee-nilee> Voi, Is the jconsole part of java/
[16:17] <Voi> wilee-nilee, no, its a programming language called J
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> Voi, Ah, I don't know code, and it brings up a java access here from synapse, just checking,
[16:18] <Voi> yea theres a java "jconsole" thingy too :P
[16:19] <Voi> thx ampelbein
[16:21] <Guest67353> .
[16:21] <Voi> Ampelbein, that means i have to add the folder with my executable to the PATH?
[16:21] <Ampelbein> Voi: Yes
[16:23] <Voi> ITS MAGIC! it worked thanks :3
[16:23] <deadweasel> Hey Folks, 12.04.02 x64, fresh download, fresh install, unity2d, all forms of the transmission bittorrent client are nearly unresponsive and rates are slow...
[16:23] <deadweasel> qtransmission, transmission-gtk both act the same.
[16:24] <deadweasel> uninstalling, reinstalling has not helped.
[16:25] <shu_> Hello
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, Is your hardware up for it?
[16:25] <shu_> a little help...
[16:26] <deadweasel> amd quad core, 16gb ram, 128 ssd?
[16:26] <shu_> How can I display the free disk space of a partition in the Gnome panel in Ubuntu 13.04... something like: (13GB)...
[16:26] <shu_> the indicator-multiload only shows the disk read / write accesses...
[16:26] <deadweasel> it was working fine before I hosed my system and did a fresh
[16:26] <deadweasel> of course, this time I am using the XORG ati drivers, not proprietary.....
[16:26] <shu_> Having searched for half an hour... couldn't find anything  for such a so simple task???
[16:26] <deadweasel> that could be it.
[16:27] <deadweasel> ^ wilee-nilee , I think that could be it.  I'll look into that.
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> shu_, You using the fallback desktop?
[16:27] <danibot> Welcome danibot :)
[16:28] <danibot> Welcome __operator :)
[16:28] <shu_> I think I use normal 13.04 with Unity?
[16:28] <danibot> Welcome flugger :)
[16:28] <danibot> Welcome freedomrun :)
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> !ops | danibot
[16:28] <danibot> Welcome statl :)
[16:28] <danibot> Welcome mircea :)
[16:28] <danibot> Welcome amal :)
[16:29] <shu_> wilee-nilee, I think what I am looking for is a applet in GNOME-panel?
[16:29] <htpc_> anyone running mythgame successfully?
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> shu_, Sure the term gnome panel actually pulls up the gnome shell though, so there is a webud8 page on many panel options
[16:31] <Myrtti> amal: take your bot away
[16:31] <amal> hi
[16:31] <amal> okay
[16:31] <amal> just was testing it
[16:31] <amal> sorry
[16:31] <DJones> !testing | amal
[16:31] <DJones> Grr, wrong one
[16:31] <DJones> !test
[16:32] <DJones> amal: See above
[16:32] <billkd> !help
[16:32] <billkd> !help
[16:32] <Myrtti> amal: please don't bring bots to this channel without asking the ops first. Pre-emptively, the answer to the request is almost always no.
[16:33] <Myrtti> amal: this, or any other channel.
[16:33] <shu_> oh, so How can I display the free disk space of a partition (ex. 13GB free) in the system tray of a normal Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[16:33] <shu_> It shouldn't be too difficult, right?
[16:34] <Guest30461> anybody there? i need help
[16:34] <amal> okay Myritti
[16:34] <amal> I was just experimenting with IRC bots
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> shu_, I can't find the link for a bunch of applets but I believe it was on a webud8 page, you might find it.
[16:35] <htpc_> what's needed to get SDL application running
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> Guest30461, You get help if you stste your issue to the channel and someone knows.
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> stste*
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> state* doh
[16:36] <shu_> wille-nilee, I did find several pages with bunch of applets for system tray, but none of them is for showing disk space of a partition!!!
[16:36] <Guest30461> I installed ubuntu but after installation when i boot ftom hard disk, it boots alright, but after booting, ubuntu doesnt rub properly, there are only two options under the power button on the top right corner, where the settings button should be, i cannot start terminal or any other component of ubuntu
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> shu_, You could use a conky maybe.
[16:36] <Guest30461> can anyone tell me whats wrong and how i can rectify it?
[16:37] <shu_> wille-nilee, thanks... that could be a plan-B... if I really cannot find any...
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> shu_, I think there is something I just use the shell is all, so I forget what the options may be.
[16:39] <Guest30461> I installed ubuntu but after installation when i boot from hard disk, it boots alright, but after booting, ubuntu doesn't run properly, there are only two options under the power button on the top right corner, where the settings button should be, i cannot start terminal or any other component of ubuntu
[16:39] <shu_> wille-nilee, OR how can I write the shell cmd in the system tray?
[16:39] <shu_> wille-nilee, because this command can give me what I want: df -H /dev/sda6 | grep -vE '^Filesystem' | awk '{ print $4 }'
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> Guest30461, We would need more details in general, what release, what desktop, maybe an image would help at least to start with. Beyond that have you checked if you have the correct graphic driver and if one is available in additional drivers.
[16:40] <dirtydaw1> hello all quick question where will i be required to use xterm in lue of terminal?
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> shu_, I know no code, so can't help there.
[16:41] <joshu> need some help install a brother's printer according to these instructions from Brother http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn1a.html#cwi_img1
[16:41] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee, as I test things out, I believe this is directly related to XORG versus proprietary drivers.  I'm going to attempt to switch back, although this is what messed up my system so bad I had to nuke it.
[16:41] <Guest30461> Its ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS 64-bit, on an AMD Bulldozer processor
[16:41] <joshu> In step 2 there are two pre-requisites before installing the drivers. http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/before.html#004 and http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/before.html#002
[16:42] <dirtydaw1> hello all quick question where will i be required to use xterm in lue of terminal?
[16:42] <longcat__> A Bug Crowd T-shirt + sticker give away, first come first serve :P http://swag.bugcrowd.com/?kid=1Y8V9
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> longcat__, Don't spam
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> joshu, YOu have checked the printer app for drivers locally?
[16:44] <raven_> xubuntu 12.04 + Terratec Tstick+: tutorial ttp://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_T_Stick%2B       build failed at line 454 - any ideas?
[16:44] <Guest30461>  Its ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS 64-bit, on an AMD Bulldozer processor
[16:44] <Guest30461>  How do i check for graphic drivers
[16:44] <Guest30461>  I installed using a USB drive
[16:44] <Guest30461>  After installation when i booted from the hard disk, there is simply no settings button on the top right corner as there is in the demo mode, instead there is a power button, with only two options under it, "suspend" and "shut down"
[16:44] <Guest30461>  Pressing Ctrl+Alt+T doesnt bring up the terminal
[16:44] <FloodBot1> Guest30461: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <Guest30461>  Don't know how to go about it
[16:45] <joshu> wilee-nilee I'm following the instructions provided by Brother and just wanted to ask about the two pre-requsities which are to execute sudo aa-complain cupsd and sudo mkdir /usr/share/cups/model" and then for 64bit ubuntu install ia32-libs or lib32stdc++
[16:45] <Guest30461> I installed using a USB drive
[16:45] <Guest30461> After installation when i booted from the hard disk, there is simply no settings button on the top right corner as there is in the demo mode, instead there is a power button, with only two options under it, "suspend" and "shut down"
[16:46] <Guest30461>  Pressing Ctrl+Alt+T doesnt bring up the terminal
[16:46] <Guest30461> Please help
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> Guest30461, Be careful to not use enter as punctuation, go to the ubuntu software center-edit-software sources and far right tab is additional drivers
[16:46] <bazhang> !helpme | Guest30461
[16:46] <bekks> Guest30461: Its ctrl+shift+T isnt it?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> joshu, Right but did you check if ubuntu has a driver already in the printer app?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> ctrl-alt-t
[16:47] <joshu> wilee-nilee no I have not as I'm doing this on an ubuntu install without a GUI
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> joshu, Ah, can't help there myself.
[16:48] <Guest30461> Went to ubuntu software center-edit-software sources. Far right is statistics
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> Guest30461, Do you see additional drivers in software sources at all?
[16:49] <Guest30461> Of course, this is in the Demo version running from the USB, can't open software centre from the installed version of ubuntu
[16:50] <Guest30461> It has a tab called "other softwares", but thats all
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> Guest30461, " I installed using a USB drive" looks like an actual install
[16:51] <Guest30461> " " I installed using a USB drive" looks like an actual install" Didnt understand you
[16:51] <wilee-nilee> Guest30461, Check the sum on the loading iso to begin with
[16:51] <dirtydaw1> hello all quick question where will i be required to use xterm in lue of terminal?
[16:51] <joshu> so installing ia32-libs is fine on ubuntu 64bit?
[16:51] <Guest30461> Sum on the loading iso? what do you mean by sum?
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> Guest30461, You said you installed now you say it is a usb that is a demo what is it, and what is a demo; the live cd?
[16:52] <Random832> dirtydaw1: what do you mean
[16:52] <syntroPi> Guest30461, look for last tab in software & updates (where you can enable repos and such=
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | Guest30461
[16:53] <dirtydaw1> well they look overly similar but im nto sure what its use is for me and wether i should be using terminal or xterm
[16:53] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee: It was the video drivers.  Proprietary are where it's at.  UI delays are rampant in the ubuntu supported stuff.  Thanks for lettting me bounce ideas off you!  o/
[16:53] <Guest30461> Didnt use a LIVE CD, used a LIVE USB to install it, but when I run the installed version, it doesnt work, so right now using the LIVE version from the USB
[16:53] <uvala> hello everyone! is there a FOSS alternative to bookmark sharing widgets like sharethis, addthis etc..? (hope this straying from support-themes to be pardonable!)
[16:53] <Random832> oh you mean the gnome terminal or xterm
[16:53] <dirtydaw1> correct
[16:53] <syntroPi> Guest30461, should be fine from live usb too, did that many times
[16:53] <Random832> i don't know - some people like xterm better so it is installed by default
[16:54] <dirtydaw1> extrafeatures?
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> Guest30461, Can't help sorry.
[16:54] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee: cancel that, it's back.
[16:55] <syntroPi> Guest30461, what exactly is your problem with the installation or the live usb?
[16:56] <Guest30461> I installed using a USB drive
[16:56] <Guest30461>  After installation when i booted from the hard disk, there is simply no settings button on the top right corner as there is in the demo mode, instead there is a power button, with only two options under it, "suspend" and "shut down"
[16:56] <dirtydaw1> you in guest account?
[16:57] <Guest30461> The problem is in the installed version
[16:57] <syntroPi> Guest30461, hmm cant you just type "settings" in the lens, cinnamon menu or gnome3 search?
[16:57] <syntroPi> choose system settings then
[16:58] <Guest30461> There is no lens or cinnamon menu or gnome search
[16:58] <Guest30461> I can only see the background, with the top right power button, the system clock and accessibilty options
[17:01] <syntroPi> Guest30461, hmm which gfx card do you have in there?
[17:01] <Guest30461> Its the onboard AMD grafix card
[17:01] <dirtydaw1> is notepadd++ in the offical repos as i tried to apt-get it and failed through not bwing able t find it??
[17:01] <parapan> hi fellows, using 12.4 on a dell laptop and the SD reader doesn't work anymore . . . what should I do ?
[17:02] <bekks> dirtydaw1: What was the entire command and output of "I tried to apt-get it"?
[17:02] <r000> Can someone tell me how to set nautilus as standard-filemanager in xubuntu?
[17:02] <dirtydaw1> "sudo apt-get install notepad++"
[17:03] <bekks> dirtydaw1: And what was the entire output? Use a pastebin please.
[17:03] <syntroPi> Guest30461, ooh actually im not quite familiar with AMD/ATI gfx card, but maybe you just have to install the right driver on terminal via "sudo apt-get -y install <whatever_driver_suits_your_card>"
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> parapan, I had this problem on an acer, had to upgrade the bios, however you might look on the web with that model and that problem to see if this is common.
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> while you wait that is
[17:04] <parapan> wilee-nilee: today it was working, rebooted the laptop, now it-s not working anymore
[17:04] <dirtydaw1> "[sudo] password for dirtydawg:
[17:04] <dirtydaw1> Reading package lists... Done
[17:04] <dirtydaw1> Building dependency tree
[17:04] <dirtydaw1> Reading state information... Done
[17:04] <dirtydaw1> E: Unable to locate package notepad+
[17:04] <FloodBot1> dirtydaw1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:04] <dirtydaw1> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'notepad+'
[17:04] <syntroPi> Guest30461, also you could choose the fallback mode in lightdm login manager when you clock on the wheel in right corner of the login prompt
[17:04] <bekks> dirtydaw1: Use a pastebin. Not this channel.
[17:04] <bekks> !pastebinit | dirtydaw1
[17:04] <dirtydaw1> no idea whata paste bin was my bad all :(
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> parapan, gotta start and stop at some point, do you get my point?
[17:05] <syntroPi> Guest30461, then you should be able to launch the system settings gui
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> parapan, Might be the ssd card have you checked it on another computer?
[17:06] <parapan> wilee-nilee: not quite ..it was working fine in 10. and after that .....foar at least 5 years ....I didn't done any upgrade or sys administration ....it simply stopped working
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> parapan, Right might be the card, and there may be a common problem with this reader easily found on the web, you have to do some research. Start with seeing if the card works elsewhere if you can.
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> a history of working is a history of working not really related here except it did work.
[17:08] <Dr_willis> :) make sure the thing actually works somewhere.. befor fighting/spending time looking for a software bug - is always a good idea.
[17:10] <dirtydaw1> tyvm all for your time see you laters logging for now :)
[17:10] <parapan> wilee-nilee: just did the check it's working fine with a card reader on a 10.04 system; ...and it';s working also on th smartphone ...so it's not the card
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> parapan, Cool, may be the hardware, hard to say really at least for me.
[17:12] <abady> heloo
[17:12] <abady> fuck all
[17:12] <parapan> wilee-nilee: k
[17:12] <abady> wtf
[17:13] <abady> parapan
[17:13] <abady> asl plz
[17:13] <DJones> abady: Please don't swear in the channel
[17:13] <abady> ok
[17:13] <abady> how r u
[17:13] <parapan> abady: ?
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> !enter > abady
[17:14] <Dr_willis> !support
[17:15] <Guest10397> hi everyone
[17:15] <Guest10397> i need some help on ubuntu studio
[17:16] <abady> hi 2
[17:16] <Dr_willis> Give us details as to the exact ubuntu issue Guest10397  - and youmay want to change nicks.
[17:18] <asteve> I have a netbook on 10.10 that I would like to upgrade to 12.04 or something newer if possible
[17:18] <asteve> it appears that my only recourse was to upgrade to 11.04 which is now EOL
[17:18] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | asteve
[17:18] <bekks> asteve: Then you have to go through 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 to get a supported version. I'd just reinstall 12.05
[17:18] <bekks> 12.04
[17:20] <asteve> reinstalling will be difficult because I don't have a flash drive nor a burner that I can use
[17:20] <asteve> and the netbook doesn't have a cdrom
[17:20] <Guest10397> hi everyone
[17:20] <Guest10397> i need some help on ubuntu studio
[17:20] <asteve> I can't upgrade to 11.10 because that is EOL as well
[17:20] <asteve> I was hoping to go 10.10 -> 12.04
[17:20] <bazhang> !details | Guest10397
[17:20] <bekks> asteve: Then please read the links given above.
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> asteve, Not possible, a cd or usb of ubuntu is about your best tool as well.
[17:21] <Guest10397> I can't connet my oxygen 8 midi keyboard to ububtu studio 12.04
[17:21] <bazhang> Guest10397, just repeating that without a great many details wont get any support
[17:21] <Guest10397> it does not apeear on jack
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> asteve, YOu can download 12.04 and boot it from grub. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:22] <Guest10397> I installed ubuntu studio yesterday. been testing it. connected my guitar to an input port and it worked fine. then i tried to conned my oxygen 8 midi keyboard and i cant get to see it on qjacck
[17:23] <gregor_> dose anyone know why the writing is invisable on the webrowser on ubuntu is there a seeting  i can change that to normal ?
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> asteve, The bits message on eolupgrades also tells you how to upgrade from where you are at, it is a specific process.
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> bots*
[17:24] <Guest10397> I installed ubuntu studio yesterday. been testing it. connected my guitar to an input port and it worked fine. then i tried to conned my oxygen 8 midi keyboard and i cant get to see it on qjacck
[17:24] <asteve> ya, I'm reading it now; thanks
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> gregor_, Have you changes your themes, what leads you to this problem?
[17:24] <htpc_> What does .Xauthority do?
[17:24] <asteve> I had to install aptitude
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> asteve, Cool.
[17:24] <asteve> heh
[17:24] <Guest10397> can anyone give my some pointers on this?
[17:25] <gregor_> oh i have but in a diffrent theme im trying to change the font color is it possible ?
[17:25] <Guest10397> I installed ubuntu studio yesterday. been testing it. connected my guitar to an input port and it worked fine. then i tried to conned my oxygen 8 midi keyboard and i cant get to see it on qjacck
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> gregor_, This firefox?
[17:26] <gregor_> yeah firefox the default web browser for ubuntu
[17:26] <raven_> xubuntu 12.04 + Terratec Tstick+: tutorial ttp://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_T_Stick%2B       build failed at line 454 - any ideas?
[17:26] <gregor_> il try changing my theme and see dose anything happen
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> gregor_, YOU might ask at #firefox as well since it is self contained unless you switch that off in general.
[17:26] <DJones> Guest10397: I've not used Ubuntu studio or the hardware so I can't help with the problem, however you may find some support in #ubuntustudio
[17:26] <gregor_> il give it a try brb
[17:28] <Dr_willis> gregor_,  firefox has some font extensions that change its gui fonts and colors and sizes.  Unless you mean the colors of the fonts IN the web pages
[17:28] <gregor_> yup my writing is back agen i changed the theme and it made my writing insviable so i changed to another and now its working agen
[17:29] <Dr_willis> white text on white background - can be annoying.
[17:29] <Dr_willis> htpc_,  its a X security type file.  some times it gets confused and owned by root,
[17:30] <gregor_> is there a way to have diffrent font color on firefox ?
[17:30] <gregor_> like not the usual boring black one ?
[17:31] <htpc_> Dr_willis: For a mythbuntu install, is there any danger to give it 644 perms?
[17:31] <Dr_willis> htpc_,  you shouldent need to mess with it at all.. if it gets goofed up.. delete it and relog back in
[17:32] <Dr_willis> gregor_,  theres firefox extensions to tweak the GUI fonts firefox uses. Not sure about the fonts for in the web pages. often the pages can override any colors like that.
[17:32] <gregor_> thanks il give it a try
[17:33] <htpc_> Dr_willis: it's owned by me, but mythtv runs as a mythtv user. It needs to run fceux and that needed to read my .Xuthority. It only had 600 though
[17:35] <asteve> should I reboot the machine after installing the kernel updates and prior to running do-release-upgrade?
[17:36] <Dr_willis> htpc_,  somthing seems odd with the whole setup. Ive ran mythtv befor and never had to mess with it.
[17:36] <Dr_willis> htpc_,  there is the #mythbuntu channel
[17:37] <spycrab0> I'm  trying to install my Broadcom WLAN-Drivers via jockey on Ubuntu 13.04(I'm using an HP 625) but it fails /var/log/jockey.log contains this line multiple times "2013-07-28 19:28:07,534 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted" What am i doing wrong?
[17:42] <Dr_willis> broadcom uses several differnt drivers, blacklisting means the driver/module is 'not going to be loaded'  - seems like allof them are blacklisted?
[17:42] <Dr_willis> You may want to check askubuntu.com for your specific broadcom chipset as to what driver its supposed to beusing
[17:43] <spycrab0> the crazy thing is to make sure wlan works on ubuntu i ran ubuntu from an livecd and wlan worked!
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> spycrab0, Sounds like you have looked at the broadcom wiki, am I right?
[17:44] <raven_> xubuntu 12.04 + Terratec Tstick+: tutorial ttp://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_T_Stick%2B       build failed at line 454 - any ideas?
[17:44] <Dr_willis> spycrab0,  use the live cd, and see what module its using
[17:44] <tle> I can't seem to compile gtk+3.0 programs. I have libgtk-3-dev installed but gcc still can't find the headers. Am I missing a step?
[17:44] <ripthejacker> hi everyone need help with AMD Radeon HD6450 Gpu , with open source radeon drivers
[17:44] <spycrab0> how can i grep the modules related to wlan?
[17:44] <trism> tle: can you pastebin the failing output?
[17:45] <Dr_willis> tle,  often i use the 'build-deps' option to apt-get to pull in all needed packages to compile a specific app.  'sudo apt-get build-deps some-gtk3-app'   Should have the system pull in any needed dev packages that the app would need. You might have missed one or more.
[17:45] <ripthejacker> https://www.copy.com/s/LEWLGhDK0stR/Screenshot%20from%202013-07-28%2022%3A51%3A22.png
[17:45] <Dr_willis> spycrab0,  lsmod shows loaded modules. compare the working and non working systems lsmod outputs
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, Here is some askubuntu threads to ponder while you wait. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=HD6450
[17:45] <ripthejacker> thsi https://copy.com/LEWLGhDK0stR
[17:46] <tle> trism, http://pastebin.com/c7vsiDvP
[17:46] <tle> Dr_willis, yeah this is for a hello world program from source though, not a pre-packed program
[17:47] <Dr_willis> tle,  pull in the dev packages for any other gtk3 app and it should install most of the needed dev packages.
[17:47] <MichaelP> is there anything better then virtualbox to load windows in ?
[17:47] <yalex> hi how can i make file permissions inherit on a cifs share?
[17:47] <trism> tle: you have to put the -llibrary lines at the end, so this will work: gcc -o base.app base.c $(pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-3.0)
[17:47] <Dr_willis> MichaelC|Percona,  vbox or vmware. are the normal ways
[17:47] <yalex> permissions are always group read when i need them to be group read+write.  It works for directories just not files
[17:47] <MichaelP> Dr_willis: what one is better ?
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> MichaelP, The one that serves your needs.
[17:48] <tle> trism, yeah that did it
[17:48] <tle> thanks
[17:48] <Dr_willis> try themboth. you decide. i dont use vmware at all.
[17:49] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: none of the threads is related to the issue i am having
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> MichaelP, You setup the guest additions in vbox and gave it enough ram...etc
[17:49] <MichaelP> I need windows but don't want to do boot just for photoshop.. gimp has a crapy cloning tool
[17:50] <pvl1> if i want to permanently remove a module, do i remove with modprobe and delete the corressponding file?
[17:50] <ripthejacker> the display is all broken when I use open source radeon driver
[17:50] <bekks> MichaelP: Then setup a virtual machine.
[17:50] <ripthejacker> https://copy.com/LEWLGhDK0stR
[17:50] <holstein> MichaelP: you can always ask for a native photoshop from the creator
[17:50] <ripthejacker> this is how it looks
[17:50] <holstein> !wine | MichaelP
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, Cool I have not had to mess with graphics so not the best help. If you can be detailed as to what the problem is it will help. Have you looked in additional drivers to see if any are available?
[17:50] <ripthejacker> ans also x is too slow
[17:51] <Dr_willis> pvl1,  best to just blacklist the module
[17:51] <MichaelP> Already tried wine with photoshop CS5 wont install
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | ripthejacker This is easier to see
[17:51] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: the driver section says that my card has 3d acceleration support with radeon drivers
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> no one is going to download stuff
[17:52] <pvl1> Dr_willis: im trying to make a small live usb, so im customizing a livecd
[17:52] <holstein> MichaelP: it might not, if the vendor dosnt provide wine support.. wine is a bit of a "hack" sometimes..
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> MichaelP, I believe earlier versions run
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> cs3 or something I recall
[17:53] <holstein> MichaelP: wineHQ is where to go if you want more information.. i did install an older version
[17:53] <ripthejacker> http://imagebin.org/265821
[17:54] <MichaelP> holstein: yeah.. i use facebook video call as well.. facebook don't suport likux yet.. so i tryed windows firefox in wine. had no webcam...
[17:54] <medoo2001> hi , i have a laptop with windows 8 built in os , i want to install ubuntu 13.04 along side windows 8 how i could?
[17:54] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: the card has 3d acceleration support but the opengl renderer string is showing galium on llvmpipe
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | medoo2001
[17:55] <yalex> Directories are inheriting permissions on  a cifs share but files are not how do I fix this?
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, I see, not an area I can help in with confidence is all, all  could do is google for info. ;)
[17:55] <MichaelP> Sucks when there is still few things windows is needed for
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> I*
[17:56] <medoo2001> wilee-nilee , is there any easy alternative?
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> MichaelP, I don't bother with wine I dual boot it, seems like the best use.
[17:56] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: do you know where I can get help
[17:56] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: amd channel?
[17:56] <medoo2001> wilee-nilee , is there any easy alternative?
[17:56] <medoo2001> wilee-nilee , is there any easy alternative?
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> medoo2001, A virtual machine is the easiest, otherwise that is a bit of a challenge.
[17:57] <bekks> ripthejacker: Using gallium, the only thing that is helpfuk is changing the hardware. That chipsets arent capable of much more than the driver already implemented.
[17:57] <bekks> *
[17:57] <bekks> *helpful even.
[17:57] <ripthejacker> bekks: but the documentation says that my card has 3d acceleration support
[17:57] <ripthejacker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:58] <medoo2001> i  can't make vm , i need ubuntu for wirless secuitry so my card is integrated
[17:58] <ripthejacker> my driver is listed in the CAICOS row
[17:58] <medoo2001> does wubi works in win8?
[17:58] <bekks> medoo2001: There is no wubi anymore. So the answer is "no".
[17:59] <bekks> medoo2001: You should use a dualboot instead.
[17:59] <pvl1> can you install ubuiqity from the market and just install ubuntu on other drives from an install?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> medoo2001, The uefi wiki is where you would start, there is a good thread at the ubuntu that will be there when back on line this is the url. Save this link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:59] <pcbryan> Hi
[18:00] <heinz> hi, anyone here  who can help me with my webcamproblems?
[18:00] <medoo2001> wilee-nilee : any website that i can check that i have uefi?
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> medoo2001, READ THE WIKI.
[18:00] <heinz> ok, by
[18:00] <medoo2001> Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance
[18:00] <ripthejacker> bekks, wilee-nilee: will using latest kernel version solve my issue in any way?
[18:01] <pcbryan> medoo2001: planned maintenance?
[18:01] <bekks> ripthejacker: No. A new kernel will not change your hardware.
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> medoo2001, If this is a oem you have uefi.
[18:01] <medoo2001> There has been a security breach on the Ubuntu Forums. The Canonical IS team is working hard as we speak to restore normal operations. This page will be updated with progress reports.
[18:01] <pcbryan> ic
[18:01] <pvl1> medoo2001: the forums are not the wiki
[18:01] <ripthejacker> bekks: did you check out the link i shared?
[18:01] <ripthejacker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[18:01] <ripthejacker> my card is listed in the supported section
[18:01] <bekks> ripthejacker: Yes I did. But that wont affect what I told you.
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> medoo2001, Right I metioned that are you taking the time to read what is posted to you and the links and critically thinking?
[18:02] <ripthejacker> bekks: because 3d acceleration works fine with proprietary drivers
[18:03] <bekks> ripthejacker: Then use them. The FOSS drivers dont implement more than you have currently.
[18:03] <medoo2001> is this video is right http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LokDqte3sA4 ?
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, You can use the proprietary drivers however they generally do not follow kernel updates and upgrades so be prepared.
[18:03] <bekks> medoo2001: Whats your actual support question?
[18:04] <ripthejacker> bekks: but they are not recommended , right
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> correct ripthejacker
[18:04] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: yes every time I have to install the drivers after a kernel update
[18:05] <ripthejacker> that's one of the reason I want to use the foss drivers
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, most graphic drivers have to be reversed engineered, they are rarely written for linux so that is the conundrum
[18:05] <mumpitzel> ripthejacker: if you use the proprietary drivers properly, they will update automatically everytime you install a new kernel
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel, Than why does ubuntu not provide that info, I have never seen that, can you actually describe what correctly is?
[18:07] <mumpitzel> !fglrx
[18:07] <mumpitzel> that's how. it will then use dkms
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel, Not a nvidia card
[18:07] <mumpitzel> an ati tho
[18:07] <ripthejacker> the proprietary drivers in the repos are outdated, so I install the ones directly form amd's site
[18:08] <maitake> hm.. virtualbox hates windows 7 aero effects apparently
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> maitake, There is a #vbox channel
[18:08] <maitake> oh oops
[18:08] <maitake> sorry
[18:08] <ripthejacker> *from
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, Sounds like you are familiar with loading them so that is a good thing. ;)
[18:10] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee, bekks: which file do I examine so that I can troubleshoot the errors
[18:10] <mumpitzel> and you absolutely need the newests most current drivers? really?
[18:10] <distro> hi
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> hello distro
[18:10] <ripthejacker> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2731459
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, Not sure myself, is there a ppa on these?
[18:11] <distro> one question do someone know where I can find irc about rooting android mobiles or like xda
[18:11] <ripthejacker> not sure , I download from their site
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> distro, #android-root
[18:11] <mumpitzel> distro: #android-root. you need to be registered with nickserv to join
[18:12] <distro> tnx bro
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, Here is a google search on a PPA take a look at the first two, just a reference here I know very little on graphic drivers. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=amd+ppa&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=_F71UYeTMuahiQLbxYC4DA
[18:18] <allan> twice I’ve had a dovecot-postfix upgrade make a mess out of my config, this makes me wonder that perhaps I am doing it wrong
[18:19] <allan> I notice that most things in config files are commented
[18:19] <allan> should I create a new config file with just my changes?
[18:19] <allan> (and name it so that it gets included via the conf.d/* directives)
[18:19] <allan> this is a general question, i.e. applies to setting up postfix, dovecot, apache, mysql, php5, etc.
[18:20] <jimi_> When I do vga out from my laptop, the TV puts the image in a box. How can I get it to be full screen?
[18:20] <allan> it seems that while many default config files will include conf.d/* it’s often not that easy to override the proper things via that mechanism
[18:20] <allan> any best practices wrt. maintaing config in /etc for ubuntu (to allow graceful upgrades)?
[18:21] <ripthejacker> :(
[18:21] <ripthejacker> don't want proprietary drivers
[18:22] <bazhang> !info etckeeper | allan
[18:22] <mumpitzel> then don't use them. you have to actually do stuff to get proprietary drivers
[18:22] <bekks> ripthejacker: Then you - unluckily - have to live with the situation.
[18:23] <allan> bazhang: thanks, though I already keep my config under version control — that doesn’t change that some updates make a mess out of things
[18:24] <magneticduck> is this is a good place to ask about mouse config problems under ubuntu?
[18:26] <magneticduck> :|
[18:27] <ripthejacker> bekks: any place where I can look for help?
[18:27] <bekks> ripthejacker: A hardware shop.
[18:27] <ripthejacker> hmmm
[18:28] <magneticduck> I'll go ahead and ask it; I bought a new mouse with 2800 CPI and nothing is working to tune the polling down!
[18:28] <magneticduck> xset --list-props doesn't have anything useful
[18:28] <magneticduck> and xset m <accel> <t> doesn't do a thing
[18:28] <blue_pearl> magneticduck: what is the problem with mouse
[18:28] <magneticduck> I'm using xmonad with no gnome wrapper
[18:30] <magneticduck> :|
[18:30] <wilee-nilee>  !patience | magneticduck
[18:30] <blue_pearl> I take it to be a USB mouse
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> magneticduck, Please just post what is needed don't swamp the channel.
[18:31] <magneticduck> wilee-nilee: <_>
[18:31] <magneticduck> blue_pearl: yes, it's a USB
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> and don't use enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <magneticduck> mm, I should probably start trying to fix that habit
[18:33]  * mecool :)
[18:34] <raven_> mythtv: trying to set up a hauppauge nova-t stick 3 (2040:7070) in backend on xubuntu 12.04 it gets the model description now but no way to select "video source" and to scan - any ideas?
[18:36] <blue_pearl> magneticduck: seems odd it should work out of the box
[18:36] <magneticduck> blue_pearl: what do you mean?
[18:36] <magneticduck> it's a USB mouse; they usually work out of the box. My only problem is that it's 2800 CPI...
[18:36] <magneticduck> much higher than my previous one
[18:40] <HypnotiX> ubuntu newbie here in need of some help
[18:41] <HypnotiX> i just installed 12.04 and my max resolution is 1024
[18:42] <magneticduck> HypnotiX: apt-get install arandr
[18:42] <magneticduck> everything you need for displays =P
[18:43] <jalhalla> you should mention 'sudo apt-get install arandr'
[18:43] <HypnotiX> ok i will try :)
[18:45] <HypnotiX> should i restart now?
[18:45] <magneticduck> no
[18:45] <jalhalla> start the program arandr in console
[18:45] <magneticduck> and use the mouse to navigate the window
[18:45] <yshi> hello
[18:46] <yshi> does anyone know how to install onto a SSD raid? I did it a year ago with 12.10 and cant get it working again
[18:47] <HypnotiX> well my max resolution in that program is still 1024
[18:47] <jalhalla> Hypnotix, what graphic card do you have?
[18:47] <HypnotiX> nvidia gtx 460
[18:48] <jalhalla> did you install the proprietary driver for that card?
[18:48] <HypnotiX> well i would like to think i did :)
[18:48] <HypnotiX> i installed the latest nvidia from the repo
[18:49] <yshi> when i boot to a live environment i open a terminal and apt-get install mdadm; mdadm --assemble --scan to create the disks i previously used (20GB / and 220GN /home), then run through the installation and set /, /home and /boot (to sda1). when the install is over i go back to the terminal and mount the new install and chroot to it, then install mdadm inside
[18:49] <yshi> when i reboot i end at a minimal openbox system
[18:49] <HypnotiX> why does it have to be so difficult to switch from windows
[18:51] <bekks> HypnotiX: Because Linux isnt Windows.
[18:51] <Terabyte> there's a piece of software called activemq which can be installed with apt-get on ubuntu12.04+ but it's currently only 5.5.0. Where can I check if there is a later version available via apt-get in ubuntu? (alternative repos/ etc)
[18:51] <HypnotiX> well yeah i get that but linux uses the same hardware as windows
[18:52] <yshi> HypnotiX: that may sound like sarcasm but it is really the answer. the reason most people find it hard to switch is because they are expecting it to act the same way while acting different at the same time
[18:52] <HypnotiX> well i tried for 4 hours to install 13.04 then gave up and installed 12.04
[18:53] <HypnotiX> now on 12.04 i cannot use my monitors max resolutions
[18:53] <jalhalla> HypnotiX, can you start the program nvidia-settings?
[18:53] <HypnotiX> after following 3 guides i found on google
[18:53] <HypnotiX> nvidia xserver settings yes
[18:53] <bekks> !nvidia
[18:53] <magneticduck> so nobody got anything on my question eh
[18:53] <bekks> HypnotiX: Thats the only guide you need.
[18:53] <magneticduck> :<
[18:54] <jrib> !helpme | magneticduck
[18:54] <magneticduck> ._.
[18:54] <jalhalla> lol
[18:56] <Dr_willis> the archlinux wiki used to have some nice guides on tweaking weird/highres/gameing mice
[18:56] <HypnotiX> sigh
[18:56] <HypnotiX> 30minutes to get my normal resolution working wtf linux
[18:56] <magneticduck> fun fact: there are literally no links on google involving using Krom (my mouse) mice on linux of any sort
[18:56] <magneticduck> .____________________________--.
[18:56] <Dr_willis> more like wtf nvidia HypnotiX
[18:57] <jrib> magneticduck: did you see what ubottu said?
[18:57] <HypnotiX> thats like the biggest manufacturer of videocards isnt
[18:57] <HypnotiX> it
[18:57] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  and if  THEY are lacking in THEIR support of linux    thats the issue.
[18:57] <Dr_willis> they wont even release specs for a lot of their stuff
[18:58] <HypnotiX> i see
[18:58] <HypnotiX> i  so wish to get rid of windows
[18:58] <Dr_willis> MS actually 'charges' companies to have windows-certified drivers..   ATI and NVIDIA and other hardware companies are often relying on  the linux coders to make drivers for free. and often with very little to no actual support from the hardware makers
[18:59] <POVaddct> ...that's why i use intel gfx cards only
[18:59] <Dr_willis> Just for the record - i have no issues with my older nvidia cards. (about 2 yrs old now)
[18:59] <HypnotiX> gtx460 is about 2 years old now
[18:59] <Dr_willis> the new Optimus nvidia stuff has barely any support at this time. Nvidia has made promises - but not really delivered
[19:00] <Dr_willis> I just install the nvidia-current package, reboot. run the nvidia-settings tool and tweak what i need.
[19:00] <HypnotiX> funny enough when i tried to install 13.04 the resolution was set to 1920 by default
[19:00] <Dr_willis> I think mineis a gtx 320, im not even sure any more
[19:00] <HypnotiX> but that didnt work because of some swap scsi error
[19:03] <afotek> Hello. I was moving files from my hard drive, then it suddenly started making i/o errors. GParted shows that some clusters are referenced multiple times. I can't run chkdsk with any parameters - it shows that hard drive is write protected. What can I do?
[19:03] <afotek> FS is NTFS.
[19:03] <magneticduck> oh hahahah, I figured it out; I was targeting the "virtual core keyboard" instance of the mouse device in xinput
[19:03] <mumpitzel> afotek: run chkdsk under winodws. you can't run it properly under ubuntu. but it looks like you have some hardware failure
[19:04] <hazardous> i put in $1500 for ubuntu edge does nayone know when it will be dleivered?
[19:04] <afotek> mumpitze, I can't run chkdsk since it shows that hard drive is write protected.
[19:04] <HypnotiX> ok before i proceed to bash my head against the wall to get ubuntu to work properly
[19:04] <magneticduck> hazardous: that is a hilarious question
[19:04] <HypnotiX> how is linux with ruby and node ?
[19:04] <HypnotiX> good support or ?
[19:05] <mumpitzel> !info ruby
[19:05] <vectra> hazardous   maybe never             did you read the whole thing
[19:05] <bekks> HypnotiX: Most webservers are running non-Windows. So rephrase your question ;)
[19:06] <afotek> mumpitzel: I was using win7 installation dvd for chkdsk. Does that matter?
[19:06] <mumpitzel> afotek: we cannot help you. you cannot run chkdsk under ubuntu. CAN NOT. ntfs is a proprietary, undeocumented windows filesystem
[19:06] <mumpitzel> afotek: we don't know and don't care. ask #windows channels about windows software
[19:06] <oothatshot> is there a linux command that refers to the directory your in such as the ~ refers to your home directory?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  the whole internet is running on non-linux, only for the desktop is there some other dominant OS, i forget the name
[19:07] <afotek> mumpitzel: alright, thanks.
[19:07] <bekks> oothatshot: pwd
[19:07] <magneticduck> ooh, mumpitzel is steaming; don't talk about nfts in this house, afotek >:0
[19:07] <oothatshot> nice thanks bekks
[19:07] <babinlonston1> Hi Will u guys any one Describe how to understand the load average  in Linux using time command uptime what im getting
[19:07] <babinlonston1>  00:37:13 up 3 days, 16:52,  2 users,  load average: 0.15, 0.27, 0.46
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> non-windows ^^^^
[19:07] <bekks> babinlonston1: The load is - in fact - totally useless.
[19:07] <mumpitzel> magneticduck: talking about ntfs is fine. just that ubuntu can't fsck any ntfs volumes. it's perfectly fine to talk about ntfs-3g for example
[19:08] <magneticduck> MonkeyDust: what?? Most servers run on Linux O.o
[19:08] <mumpitzel> bekks: not useless
[19:08] <bekks> babinlonston1: It tells you how much "stuff" is going on to fill up one single core with 100% of work. Doesnt matter wether you have 16 cores in fact.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> magneticduck  typo.....
[19:08] <magneticduck> ah k
[19:08] <bekks> mumpitzel: It is. Totally useless. If you want to know whats going on, use vmstat, iotop or sar.
[19:08] <ReAzem> Anyone here knows how I should setup my mouse sensitivity so that it behaves like in windows?
[19:09] <bekks> babinlonston1: So in theory, a load of 16 would use your 16 cores to 100%. And even thats not true, due to context switches, nice levels, etc.
[19:10] <babinlonston1> ok
[19:10] <babinlonston1> thank u
[19:13] <netlar> Why does certain file extension have different color like bz2
[19:13] <bekks> netlar: Thats for making them recognizable.
[19:14] <magneticduck> this is some xinput output: http://pastebin.com/4bF0L2zX
[19:14] <netlar> bekks: Just wondered becuase if I use bzip2 does not show a color
[19:14] <magneticduck> my problem: nowhere in either of the devices coming from the mouse have any mousey settings
[19:14] <magneticduck> and the button device seems to be in the wrong place..?
[19:15] <bekks> netlar: I disable those colors by default :)
[19:15] <magneticduck> oh wait, I just actually read the text; it seems that everything's all bundled in one >_> I can be so silly
[19:16] <magneticduck> everybody can calm down, my mouse is alright now
[19:16] <fooman2011> Hi. I have a Wake On Lan problem on my ubuntu server 11.04. Sometimes (not always) when I start my server using WOL magic packet, the server start boot but then it is blocked. I just have a black screen and nothing else. Any idea ?
[19:16] <netlar> bekks: So is there some place where I can set those
[19:17] <bekks> netlar: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/dircolors
[19:17] <netlar> Thanks
[19:18] <bekks> netlar: The language might be difficult, but the commands remain the same.
[19:20] <netlar> bekks: I will try to figure it out, was curious
[19:20] <fooman2011> Nobody can help me ? :(
[19:20] <bekks> fooman2011: 11.04 is EOL. Please upgrade to 12.04 first.
[19:21] <bekks> !eolupgrades | fooman2011
[19:21] <fooman2011> I'm not a Linux expert, updating version is easy ?
[19:21] <fooman2011> what happend to the scripts that I have modified ?
[19:21] <bekks> fooman2011: Just read the links.
[19:22] <HypnotiX> !windows
[19:22] <shiftshiftrevshi> anyone available to help me with a boot issue on an acer aspire one zg5 running ubuntu 12.04?
[19:23] <fooman2011> Thanks for your help
[19:23] <HypnotiX> !node
[19:23] <HypnotiX> !ruby
[19:23] <HypnotiX> !nvidia
[19:26] <shiftshiftrevshi> anyone available to help me with a boot issue on an acer aspire one zg5 running ubuntu 12.04?
[19:26] <mJayk> Whats the issue shiftshiftrevshi
[19:27] <shiftshiftrevshi> comp improperly shut down and rebooted to black screen, I REISUBed a couple of times, LiveU
[19:28] <shiftshiftrevshi> SB ran boot-repair
[19:28] <shiftshiftrevshi> then it booted fine.  i shut it down over night and this morning it's booting to initramfs
[19:29] <shiftshiftrevshi> i have the url from boot-repair if you want it
[19:32] <planete> hi
[19:33] <git_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZQAjJAvLtZA
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> Looking for a spam filter
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> Using thunderbird to gather email accounts
[19:35] <planete> How have you changed your nick, Tragyn ?
[19:35] <Tragyn> I typed /nick Tragyn
[19:35] <planete> thx
[19:36] <Tragyn> No problem.
[19:36] <Tragyn> But careful, if the name is registered you can't use it.
[19:36] <planete> Okay
[19:42] <Gh0stRAT> I'm on a liveCD of 11.04 trying to dd a drive, but I want to use pv to monitor the progress. `apt-get install pv` tells me "Unable to locate package pv", but trying to run pv tells me "The program 'pv' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: apt-get install pv"
[19:42] <Gh0stRAT> any idea why apt-get can't find pv?
[19:42] <trism> Gh0stRAT: do you not have universe enabled? or haven't run apt-get update yet?
[19:42] <trism> Gh0stRAT: oh wait, 11.04, there's your issue
[19:42] <trism> Gh0stRAT: it is no longer supported
[19:42] <Gh0stRAT> it's the only LiveCD I have :/
[19:42] <Dr_willis> !find pv
[19:43] <Gh0stRAT> trism: so the consensus is to go DL a new LiveCD?
[19:44] <PrinceOfLight> cant you update to OS on the live CD straight from the CD?
[19:44] <Gh0stRAT> does it just update stuff in RAM?
[19:45] <Gh0stRAT> because I'm trying to recover this drive and don't want a swap file or anything on it to get overwritten
[19:45] <trism> Gh0stRAT: if you want to check the status you can just send SIGUSR1 to the dd process and it will tell you
[19:46] <Gh0stRAT> trism: thanks, I guess that's good enough. `kill -USR1 <pid>` would do it?
[19:46] <planete> planete
[19:47] <trism> Gh0stRAT: yep
[19:48] <Gh0stRAT> trism: thanks. I just checked the progress and it seems to work alright...
[19:49] <shiftshiftrevshi> http://paste2.org/cxcDmIIa
[19:51] <Gh0stRAT> trism: well, looks like I have 29 hrs left to go....
[19:52] <shiftshiftrevshi> "/topic"
[19:52] <Dr_willis> 29 hrs to download a cd?  what you on? Dial up?
[19:52] <jrib> carrier pigeon would be faster
[19:52] <Gh0stRAT> Dr_willis: no, 29 hrs to dd one 2TB drive to another
[19:52] <Gh0stRAT> seems too slow...... whatever
[19:53] <bekks> dr_willis: RFC 1149/2549 ;)
[19:54] <dr_willis> heh.  i dd-ed a 3tb over usb2 on my raspberry pi..  toook like 2 weeks.
[19:55] <OlMightyG> hi, im trying to install a needle-printer (pinwriter p20, nec) and im using a lpt to usb adapter. but i just prints rubbish with the ppd from the system. i also tried the one from openprinting (should be the same)
[19:55] <OlMightyG> any ideas
[19:56] <ustdana> tes
[19:57] <Gh0stRAT> 20MB/s seems really slow. would increasing the block size or something make this dd faster?
[19:58] <shiftshiftrevshi> #ubuntu+1
[19:59] <Atlantis> Hello!
[19:59] <Atlantis> Is anyone there?
[19:59] <Gh0stRAT> Atlantis: yes, people are here
[20:03] <ZIPY> istn 12.04lts stable?
[20:04] <jrib> ZIPY: it is
[20:04] <ZIPY> but i still get crashes on bootdiskcreater for example
[20:04] <ZIPY> wants me to send reports
[20:05] <jrib> !sru
[20:05] <Gh0stRAT> bumped-up my block size. 20MB/s to 144MB/s
[20:05] <jrib> ZIPY: stable just means the software is mostly unchanging (in ubuntu it means only security updates), not that it is bug free
[20:06] <ZIPY> ah ok
[20:06] <shiftshiftrevshi> @ZIPY that's realtalk
[20:07] <ZIPY> then my question was wrong
[20:09] <ZIPY> is there a version that is bugfree? maybe an older lts or sth
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> ZIPY  is there any OS or anything at all bug free?
[20:10] <ZIPY> i switched to linux to get rid of crashes :(
[20:11] <ZIPY> MonkeyDust: i dont know, but i know debian has unstable, testing and stable for example
[20:11] <Anonymous__> Hello
[20:12] <ZIPY> where testing and stable are pretty "stable" (no crash)
[20:13] <ZIPY> since ubuntu is based on debian, im wondering why its not the same in ubuntu
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> ZIPY  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[20:13] <guest976> wondering if i could get some help with my installation?
[20:14] <ZIPY> yes, is there a version that has not so much crashes
[20:14] <ZIPY> 10.04 lts maybe?
[20:16] <guest976> i manually created a separate partition on my Windows 7 laptop, installed Ubuntu to it using a live USB, and during installation made a swap partition also, but when i reboot i dont get am option after the Acer splash screen to boot into either Windows 7 or Ubuntu, just automatically boots to Ubuntu, is there a way i can set up the bootloader to allow this option?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> guest976  esc to get the grub menu
[20:18] <guest976> alright ome second i had to do a startup repair
[20:18] <guest976> it should show the option though correct?
[20:18] <K1rk> Any of you ever used an HP P410 RAID card?  I can't get mine to detect any hard drives.
[20:18] <th0r> ZIPY, the LTS releases are as a rule more stable than the interim releases. The lastest LTS is 12.04, and the next is due out in April of next year
[20:19] <guest976> when i press esc it boots only into Windows automatically
[20:20] <guest976> should i just delete my partition and start over but create the ubuntu partition from the installation screen of the bootable windows screen?
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> guest976  try alt or ctrl to get the grub menu, i forget the exact key
[20:20] <ZIPY> guest976: are u using 2 hdds or are both os' on the same?
[20:20] <guest976> i mean the installation of Ubuntu
[20:20] <guest976> same
[20:21] <ZIPY> and u dont see any grubloader at boot?
[20:21] <guest976> nope
[20:22] <ZIPY> u can download bootrepair in ubuntu which will install the grub boot loader
[20:22] <ZIPY> u may have no grub installed
[20:23] <San1ty_> Wow I found out why my pc was doing the strangest things
[20:23] <San1ty_> HDD was dieing and losing data
[20:23] <guest976> yeah that's what i figured but i cant boot into Ubuntu
[20:23] <Dr_willis> that boot-repair live cd /usb is a 'must have' in your pc toolbox. ;)
[20:23] <San1ty_> if somebody ever notices strange behaviour on your pc check the frikkin HD
[20:23] <San1ty_> took me days to figure out
[20:23] <ZIPY> yes there is a livecd too
[20:24] <ZIPY> guest976: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:24] <ZIPY> u can use ubuntu livecd too and grub-install
[20:25] <guest976> thank you for the help!
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> ZIPY  and don't say 'u', but 'you', please
[20:27] <emkan> ubuntu is the best!!!
[20:27] <emkan> UBUNTU!!!
[20:27] <ZIPY> youbunu
[20:27] <ZIPY> ^^
[20:34] <jasunto> iSCSI target or NFS for 13.04, should I use NFS since it is popular in Linux, I have the option to do both.
[20:36] <Magicarp> Does the kernel affect the performance of the blob GPU driver?
[20:38] <eXp`iRc|53649> ciao
[20:38] <Dr_willis> Magicarp,  i imagine it can
[20:38] <jonathan583> hi all. I'm attempting to do a ubuntu upgrade, and I got the following "Congfiguring libc6 Running services and programs that are using NSS need to be restarted, otherwise they might not be able to do lookup or authentication any more (for services such as ssh, this can affect your ability to login). Please review the following space-separated list of init.d scripts for services to be restarted now, and correct it if needed. ... Services
[20:40] <RayWizard|2> Is there a way to select custum program  for opening a file in nautilus, when i select "open with"  ->other applications there is no way to browse files
[20:41] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com may have some info on that RayWizard|2  - im not on ubuntu to test. but i Think there was some way.
[20:42] <Dr_willis> what are you trying to open - with what app?
[20:42] <Raging> Hello Everyone
[20:43] <Raging> i need help with my Ubuntu
[20:44] <Dr_willis> give us details of the ubuntu issue.
[20:45] <motaka2> hello, I have installed 12.04 on my system , and it was working quiet well but recentely it keeps freezing netbeans, seems the graphical perfomance is not well, how can I fix this?
[20:45] <YamakasY_> motaka2: check your x11 logs
[20:45] <YamakasY_> or X logs
[20:46] <Raging> It's my TOR is is not connecting when i try to connect it. the Vidalia can't connect
[20:47] <motaka2> YamakasYI am newbie can you tell me how ?
[20:47] <aaron_> hey all
[20:47] <Dr_willis> motaka2,  and what is your Video chipset?
[20:47] <motaka2> i dont know the name
[20:48] <aaron_> i am trying to make xscreensaver span both monitors with th same screensaver instead of having two instances of it , one on each screen.  Anybody know how to fix it?
[20:48] <Raging> @Dr Willis do you know any idea about the Vidalia?
[20:49] <Dr_willis> Raging,  other then refollow the tor install docs/setup guodes.. i got no suggestions. i dont use tor.
[20:50] <shysoft`> What's a a mac or OSX channel I can join without having to be invited?
[20:50] <bekks> shysoft`: Just register your nickname.
[20:51] <caersith> Raging: Do you use the package from Ubuntu?
[20:52] <aaron_> anyone know how to span screensaver across two screens?
[20:54] <motaka2> help me
[20:58] <motaka2> Dr_willis: hello, I have installed 12.04 on my system , and it was working quiet well but recentely it keeps freezing netbeans, seems the graphical perfomance is not well, how can I fix this?
[20:58] <Raging> @Caersith i downoad from the Ubuntu Software center it worked at first but is stopped working it says can't connect to TOR
[20:59] <motaka2> Raging: do u know the answer to my question ?
[20:59] <tigrang1> So anyone elses cd drive on laptop randomly decide at times to open on its own?
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> Raging  i tried it too, tor for ubuntu does not work well, it is advised to use the debian version, but that disabled all my sources, slash ruined my system
[20:59] <Dr_willis> motaka2,  we need to know what your video chipset and driver is befor we can even begin to answer. we asked that earlier..
[21:00] <motaka2> lemme check
[21:00] <DeLorean719> I'm having problems booting due to my retardation when it comes to grub. I have Ubuntu Server installed on /dev/sdb, and when I select it as the boot device I get the "grub> " prompt. How can I get it to boot automatically into my Ubuntu Server install?
[21:00] <Raging> sorry @Motaka2 i use 11.04 the 12 am afraid it will not worjk to my satisfaction
[21:00] <caersith> I use the one from the site and use torify/usewithtor ie, usewithtor firefox
[21:00] <shysoft`> My new retina macbook pro crashes about once very ten hours of usage (so, like every other day). According to what I've read this is called a 'kernel panic'. Should this be a cause for concern? Can I expect this problem to persist or get worse over time?
[21:00] <Dr_willis> DeLorean719,  easiest fix would be to use that boot-repair tool/live cd and have it reinstall/fix grub.
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> Raging  first upgrade to a supported release, then try again
[21:00] <DeLorean719> Dr_willis: thanks, I'll try that now
[21:01] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[21:01] <Raging> @monkey thanks i will try that.
[21:01] <caersith> Raging: +1 MonkeyDust , upgrade to a supported release.
[21:02] <alex_> Hello! I hope someone can help me? I am using Ubuntu Studio. I have a Netgear USB Wireless adaptor, that will recognize SOME wireless access points, but NOT others, including my home one.
[21:02] <Raging> @caersith i have the one from the Official site it supports firefox but i have not tried that yet.
[21:03] <cam_> Hey there.
[21:03] <Dr_willis> alex_,  compare the security settings the points are using wpa/wep/whatever the others are.. ive seen some issues with some wifi drivers and some kinds of security.
[21:03] <cam_> Are there any other Elementary OS users, here?
[21:03] <Dr_willis> cam_,  this is ubuntu support.. so doubtfull. they have their own support channels.
[21:03] <alex_> Dr_willis, thanks for the response. Do you mean the security settings on MY PC, or on the Router?
[21:03] <cam_> Ack. Just realized it, LOL. Sorry.
[21:03] <deadweasel> Jul 28 16:05:02 FREEDOM kernel: [ 1293.983465] transmission-gt[16550]: segfault at 18 ip 00007f356c9ed59f sp 00007fff21af2a30 error 4 in libgtk-3.so.0.400.2[7f356c7ea000+47a000]
[21:03] <deadweasel> pls help
[21:04] <deadweasel> 12.04 lts x64
[21:04] <Dr_willis> alex88,  your pc wifi has to match what the router wants.. so check them both.. some drivers have issues with SOME security settings.  try disabling security on the router as a test.
[21:05] <deadweasel> fresh install, transmission has failed to work no matter how it is installed.  it comes in and out of availability.
[21:05] <alex_> Dr_willis, thanks.
[21:05] <caersith> Raging: I'm using Tor not Vidalia, https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en option two.
[21:08] <gregor_> how can i bride a conection with a computer on my network with ubuntu ?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> !ics
[21:09] <gregor_> thanks il cheack it out
[21:10] <Dr_willis> i was thinking one of the firewall gui tools - had a checkbox or 2 thta enabled it.. but i cant recall which one
[21:10] <Dr_willis> Ill stick to using my ddwrt enabled router these days. ;)
[21:10] <gregor_> do you have to have acces to the other computer on your network to do this ?
[21:11] <Dr_willis> ip-masquerading guides may give some old school fundamental knowledge on the topic also. thats what it used to be called i recall.
[21:11] <motaka2> Dr_willis: it is gforce xfx series
[21:11] <Raging> @Caersith it's now working thanks
[21:11] <Dr_willis> for ICS - you setup the main PC to be the  dhcp server and set it where it forwards the info from the clioents to the internet..
[21:11] <Dr_willis> then the otherpcs use it as their gateway i recall.,
[21:11] <caersith> np
[21:11] <Dr_willis> bbl
[21:12] <Gh0stRAT> alex_: depending on what country you're in, channels 13 and 14 may or may not be available to you. (so if your router is using one of those channels but your computer thinks you're in the US, you won't be able to see it)
[21:14] <motaka2> Dr_willis: help me too
[21:14] <Raging> is there any Good Coding apps available for Ubuntu users, is yes please anyone help me with the link?
[21:15] <alex_> Gh0stRAT, thanks for the response. My router is using channel 12, and I'm in Denmark. I just disabled wireless security temporarily on the router, so that the network was completely open... but my computer still did not recognize its existence.
[21:16] <alex_> Gh0stRAT: Although... it had the option of Channel 13 earlier. I wonder if it's defaulted. I had best check where my PC thinks it is.
[21:16] <pvl1> ddwrt FTW!!!
[21:16] <Lope> on previous versions of ubuntu I could press tab in the terminal for auto-complete. now it doesn't work at all. any idea why? running Mint 15 Mate x64
[21:17] <Lope> isn't openWRT better than DDwrt?
[21:17] <xangua> !mint | Lope
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> Lope  that factoid is not correct, go to linuxmint.com, click Community and the Chat Room
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> then*
[21:18] <pvl1> MonkeyDust: they mean we dont support it in this chatroom
[21:19] <pvl1> furthermore canonical develops ubuntu
[21:19] <pvl1> not mint
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> pvl1  i know, but the factoid must be updated
[21:19] <motaka2> Dr_willis: are you there?
[21:20] <pvl1> MonkeyDust: gotcha
[21:21] <Raging> h
[21:22] <caersith> Raging: I suggest Emacs or Vim. http://lifehacker.com/5911460/the-best-programming-text-editor-for-linux
[21:23] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: when you say NetBeans freezes, can you go into more detail? Is it a momentary freeze, or a long freeze?
[21:24] <motaka2> Gh0stRAT: it wont work any more, i have to xkill it
[21:24] <Gh0stRAT> hmmmm
[21:25] <Gh0stRAT> does it freeze after a random amount of time, or right away?
[21:26] <motaka2> Gh0stRAT: a fetr a random amount of time, usually after it tries to open suggestions for auto complete
[21:26] <motaka2> Gh0stRAT: I have 2GB of RAM and I think AMD 3200 hertz, is that low?
[21:26] <bekks> motaka2: No.
[21:27] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: That should be totally fine for Netbeans
[21:27] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: All I can really think of is starting NetBeans from a terminal and then looking at the console when it freezes to see if there are any errors.
[21:29] <motaka2> Gh0stRAT: how can i do that?
[21:29] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal
[21:29] <motaka2> Gh0stRAT:no I mean how to run it from therminal
[21:30] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: I don't know what the command to start NetBeans is, but I assume it's jsut `netbeans`
[21:31] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: Did that work?
[21:31] <motaka2> Gh0stRAT: no
[21:32] <Maple__> Hey.
[21:33] <Maple__> Is there some command to locate the audio driver files?
[21:33] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: Try /usr/local/netbeans-X.Y/bin/netbeans
[21:33] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: (where X.Y is your version of NetBeans)
[21:34] <motaka2> Gh0stRAT: it worked
[21:34] <Gh0stRAT> Maple__: I don't know what it's called in modern Ubuntu distributions, but there should be some sort of "Additional Hardware" wizard you can start
[21:34] <Gh0stRAT> motaka2: Great, now try to get it to crash
[21:34] <gregor_> how do i get to the network settings on ubuntu ?
[21:35] <alex_> gregor_: What desktop environment are you using?
[21:35] <Raging> @Caersith am newbie i cant install it
[21:36] <ineedarobot> hey all. I have apt-get installed clamav and python-pyclamav yet my pip install pyclamav is failing: "pyclamav.c:25:20: fatal error: clamav.h: No such file or directory"  Does anyone know how to resolve this please?
[21:36] <gregor_> Ubuntu 12.04.2 @ alex
[21:37] <jrib> ineedarobot: you need the -dev libraries.  But if you already have python-clamav, why are you now also using pip?
[21:38] <ineedarobot> jrib: thanks for your response.  Should I install libclamav-dev?  BTW i was installing python-clamav out of desperation
[21:38] <aaron_> anyone know how to span screensaver across two screens?
[21:38] <ineedarobot> jrib: should have known better :D
[21:38] <jrib> ineedarobot: I don't know what you want to accomplish
[21:39] <caersith> Raging: sudo apt-get install emacs
[21:39] <ineedarobot> jrib: I want to scan a file for viruses using django
[21:39] <jrib> ineedarobot: so why don't you just use python-clamav?
[21:40] <caersith> change emacs with the package to install ie, vim, etc.
[21:40] <ineedarobot> jrib: I am using virtualenv and using python-clamav will install the library globally.
[21:40] <jrib> ineedarobot: you're using virtualenv with --no-site-packages?
[21:40] <DeltaPlay> Hi eveyone
[21:40] <ineedarobot> jrib: yes
[21:41] <Raging> @Caersith it says (E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[21:41] <Raging> )
[21:41] <jrib> ineedarobot: do "sudo apt-get build-dep python-clamav", then you should be able to use pip to install clamav
[21:41] <aaron_> anyone know how to span xscreensaver across two screens in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:43] <ineedarobot> jrib: thanks for the tip.  That has gotten me over the first hurdle.  Now I am getting: pyclamav.c:305:29: error: invalid application of ‘sizeof’ to incomplete type ‘struct cl_limits’
[21:44] <alfacard> Sup!
[21:44] <akrl> Has anyone install bar (bar ain't recursive) on ubuntu? I'm getting an error when I run make
[21:44] <caersith> Raging: I'm not sure maybe it's because of your connection?
[21:44] <jrib> ineedarobot: that's probably some issue with dependency versions.  You should take a step back, download the source package for python-clamav, build that from scratch (make sure it works), then re-evaluate
[21:45] <ineedarobot> jrib: I am going to start again with a new vm.  I need to be able to build this environment on demand.  thanks for your help!
[21:45] <Raging> yea maybe that he problem
[21:46] <Raging> Thanks anyway i appreciate the help
[21:47] <caersith> np
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> Curious about spam filters using thunderbird to gather mail
[21:49] <dingo> hey guys, what command can i use to copy just the folders and their subfiles but not the loose files in the main folder. i want to move just the folders from the working directory and not the loose files that are in the working directory. of course the folders will take their files with them. cp -rv folder1/ folder2/ folder3/... is all i know. plz help. Thanks.
[21:49] <jrib> dingo: use the glob: */
[21:52] <dingo> jrib: thanks. you are always there to help. one time i ran across a command that had a --no-action command. is that just specific to that one command? (cant even remember what that was)
[21:53] <akrl> Can someone look at this make output to see if they can find the problem please: http://pastebin.com/xLsydZiY. I have installed xcb, xcb-proto, libx11-xcb* and libxcb* but the problem persists.
[21:53] <reisio> dingo: probably
[21:53] <mattwj2002> hi people
[21:53] <reisio> hi mattwj2002
[21:53] <mattwj2002> well I am going back to 12.04
[21:53] <energizer> I want to switch left-right on my audio output. Any idea how?
[21:53] <mattwj2002> 13.04 has too many bugs
[21:54] <reisio> mattwj2002: that seems backwards
[21:54] <reisio> energizer: mmm, good question
[21:54] <reisio> energizer: why?
[21:54] <Dr_willis> computers have bugs.. thats the nature of the beast
[21:54] <Ampelbein> akrl: cc -lxcb -o bar bar.o is wrong order, "cc --o bar bar.o -lxcb" will work.
[21:54] <mattwj2002> right
[21:54] <Dr_willis> 12.04 had bugs when it was released.. and still has some
[21:54] <mattwj2002> but 12.04 has less of them :)
[21:54] <Shadowandlight> hey guys .... very new to ubuntu and linux, trying to install a custom web app on my vbox ubuntu install.... heres my problem - https://privatepaste.com/c09e75e834
[21:54] <reisio> mattwj2002: just going to stick with 12 forever?
[21:54] <Dr_willis> it has been worked on for over a year longer..
[21:54] <Ampelbein> akrl: ubuntu passes "--as-needed" per default to ld, so the libraries need to come after the object files.
[21:54] <mattwj2002> I am having some gui issues with 13.04
[21:55] <energizer> reisio: the cable from my headphones has to go across my body otherwise, which is somewhat disruptive.
[21:55] <Dr_willis> do what you want. it dosent really matter to us. ;P
[21:55] <mattwj2002> :P
[21:55] <mattwj2002> I don't use unity I use the fall back
[21:55] <mattwj2002> windows don't even want to minimize or close....I have had enough :)
[21:55] <reisio> energizer: heh
[21:55] <Dr_willis> i imagine the fall-back will be gone in the next release or 2 also.
[21:56] <mattwj2002> O.o
[21:56] <mattwj2002> noooooooooooo!
[21:56] <Dr_willis> and it will be the official gnome-shell gnome2 look/theme/thang.
[21:56] <reisio> energizer: http://superuser.com/questions/59481/how-to-swap-stereo-channels-in-ubuntu
[21:56] <jeremiah> When I installed Ubuntu, I did not get a GUI, so I ran sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. but then I got an error message repeating for like 8 hours and reset my computer. Now every ttime I start Ubuntu up it tells me I have errors on my system. How do I find out what failed or what the problem with my box is?
[21:56] <reisio> mattwj2002: well there are other DEs you can use
[21:56] <mattwj2002> unity sucks!
[21:56] <reisio> mattwj2002: like Xfce
[21:56] <Dr_willis> matthewvz,  ranting sucks! ;P
[21:56] <mattwj2002> sorry
[21:56] <Dr_willis> unity works quite well for me - wife has no issues with it either.. even the 4 yr old can handle it.
[21:56] <energizer> reisio: thanks. how do i know if im using alsa or pulseaudio
[21:57] <mattwj2002> thanks Dr_willis
[21:57] <Dr_willis> of course the 4 yr old keeps hacking into my system.. ;P
[21:57] <mattwj2002> :P
[21:57] <reisio> energizer: Ubuntu uses pulse by default
[21:57] <reisio> energizer: (on top of alsa, FYI)
[21:57] <reisio> Dr_willis: gj
[21:57] <Dr_willis> Pulse audio uses Alsa.
[21:57] <reisio> Shadowandlight: find . -iname '*djcelery*'
[21:57] <energizer> thanks
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> mattwj2002, Many desktop options use what makes you happy and move on.
[21:57] <mattwj2002> maybe I'll give unity another try
[21:57]  * matthewvz rants about people pinging the wrong person
[21:58] <reisio> ?!
[21:58] <mattwj2002> I was not impressed though
[21:58] <reisio> mattwj2002: many were not, try Xfce
[21:58] <mattwj2002> okay reisio
[21:58] <mattwj2002> :)
[21:58]  * wilee-nilee wonders why people use real name in nicks
[21:58] <reisio> mattwj2002: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[21:58] <reisio> wilee-nilee: clean living
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> lol
[21:59] <Dr_willis> for an old skool desktop - i tend to use Lubuntu.
[21:59] <mattwj2002> thanks reisio
[21:59] <Shadowandlight> reisio: no such file or directory for both .-iname and '*djcelery*'
[21:59] <mattwj2002> but I am going to go with 13.04 xubuntu free install
[21:59] <mattwj2002> :)
[21:59] <reisio> Xfce is more like GNOME 2 than LXDE
[21:59] <mattwj2002> *fresh
[21:59] <mattwj2002> :P
[21:59] <Dr_willis> jwm + Rox-filer
[21:59] <Shadowandlight> reisio: the instructions never mentioned installing djcelery until later down the list
[22:00] <napsc> why use desktop when you can just use shell ;)
[22:00] <reisio> Shadowandlight: install...
[22:00] <reisio> Shadowandlight: python-celery and/or python-django-celery
[22:00] <mattwj2002> has anyone tried lubuntu?
[22:00] <reisio> Shadowandlight: then try again
[22:00] <reisio> mattwj2002: yup
[22:00] <Dr_willis> mattwj2002,  lubuntu is quite popular.
[22:00] <reisio> compared to nothing at all :)
[22:00] <happyface> anyone know about monit configs? I want to restart AND exec on the same "if" check. Is that possible or do I need 2 ifs?
[22:00] <mattwj2002> I like that but it is almost too scaled back
[22:00] <reisio> mattwj2002: hence Xfce :p
[22:00] <akrl> Ampelbein: yes, that was it. Thank you so much.
[22:01] <reisio> Shadowandlight: should be the former alone, really
[22:02] <Shadowandlight> sudo pip install python-celery ?
[22:02] <Shadowandlight> i ran sudo pip install celery, which worked, re-ran the command, no dice
[22:02] <Shadowandlight> same error
[22:02] <jasunto> NFS or iSCSI target
[22:02] <jasunto> ?
[22:03] <mattwj2002> I am going to give lubuntu another try
[22:04] <reisio> Shadowandlight: it's in the repo, so you don't have to use pip, use apt-get/etc.
[22:04] <Awaken> jasunto, it depends :P
[22:04] <Dr_willis> just install lubuntu-desktop on top of your ubuntu or xubuntu install and try them all out
[22:05] <mattwj2002> what is uefi?
[22:05] <Dr_willis> !uefi
[22:06] <mattwj2002> a replacement for bios oh my
[22:06] <Shadowandlight> reisio:  "sudo apt-get celery" and "python-celery" returns invalid operation
[22:06] <ZIPY> mattwj2002: u can try xubuntu too, its running xfce
[22:06] <jrib> Shadowandlight: apt-get install...
[22:06] <Shadowandlight> :)
[22:06] <Shadowandlight> sorry i am so new at this
[22:07] <ZIPY> i liked xubuntu more then lubuntu somehow for my eee
[22:07] <reisio> :D
[22:07] <reisio> ZIPY: because it does more / is more like GNOME 2? :p
[22:07] <Shadowandlight> ok that ran.... still getting "importerror: could not import settings 'evewspace.settings' (is it on sys.path?) no module named djcelery"
[22:07] <mattwj2002> okay xubuntu it is
[22:07] <mattwj2002> I will get a ubuntu downloaded here eventually
[22:07] <mattwj2002> haha
[22:07] <mattwj2002> *iso
[22:08] <deezed> Hey I recently installed mint here, which is based on ubuntu, but I cant connect to network. Do you know what can I do, or where to ask this?
[22:08] <reisio> Shadowandlight: mmm, k it might be someplace the code you have isn't expecting it to be
[22:08] <Dr_willis> deezed,  the mint homepage should mention its support channels.. i suggest dumping mint. and using ubuntu
[22:08] <Dr_willis> !mint
[22:08] <ZIPY> reisio: i dont know i think lxde is a little "too light" buts its just a matter of taste
[22:08] <reisio> Shadowandlight: actually, you did try python-django-celery?
[22:09] <motaka2> Gh0stRAT: Are you there?
[22:09] <numnum> Can anyone help me with my usb network driver?
[22:09] <reisio> Shadowandlight: it's part of universe
[22:09] <mattwj2002> I have tried mint
[22:09] <reisio> Shadowandlight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[22:09] <mattwj2002> not a bi fan
[22:09] <Dr_willis> numnum,  for what chipset?
[22:09] <mattwj2002> *big :P
[22:09] <numnum> AX88772
[22:09] <ZIPY> for me xfce looks more nice then lxde
[22:09] <ZIPY> i like gnome 3 for my desktop :D
[22:10] <numnum> Downloaded drivers of asix and ran the makefile
[22:10] <reisio> ZIPY: heh
[22:10] <jonathan583> Hi everyon! I'm having a bit of trouble. I just did do-release-upgrade and the computer got all weird during it. The toolbar stopped responding, and I waited for about 30 minutes for it to do something. When it wouldn't change, I was able to restart it. Now the computer boots up ok, I can log on using my credentials from 10.04 LTS, but the X server doesn't seem to be working properly
[22:10] <numnum> but i still get nothing
[22:10] <reisio> mattwj2002: but it's greener...
[22:10] <danny4way> I need help with some kind of drivers.
[22:10] <Dr_willis> numnum,  well you have looked at askubuntu.com for that exact chipset to see if others have had issues and potential fixs for any problems with it? ive never heard of that chipset
[22:10] <Shadowandlight> reisio: install python-django-celery now
[22:10] <danny4way> I bought this cooling pad. But it requires mac or windows.
[22:10] <numnum> is askubuntu down or is that just the forums and whatnot
[22:10] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  we need you to be a bit more specific then that.
[22:10] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com is up.
[22:10] <numnum> i couldn't really find anything for that chipset elsewhere
[22:11] <mattwj2002> danny4way: how can it require windows or mac?
[22:11] <jonathan583> I opened dash, and now it's stuck on the screen, for example. It won't go away
[22:11] <mattwj2002> it is just a fan for your laptop right?
[22:11] <danny4way> I am not sure about that. But on the box it says windows or Mac is requirement
[22:11] <Dr_willis> numnum,  last usb wifi dongles i bought. i made sure they had linux support. :) Best $15 usb dongle i got. (well i got 3 differnt ones)
[22:11] <mattwj2002> I would think usb should be the only requipment :P
[22:11] <reisio> jonathan583: ESC?
[22:11] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  they always say marketing stuff like that.. give us details of what this cooling pad is actually doing..
[22:12] <danny4way> Cooling pad is to cool my laptop down
[22:12] <danny4way> But right now when i plug in the USB, its not working
[22:12] <danny4way> Fan isn't working.
[22:12] <Shadowandlight> nice.. progress... now i am getting "django.core.exceptions.improperlyconfigured: error loading mysqldb module: no module named mysqldb"
[22:12] <numnum> Dr_willis: probably had the same one i used to, didn't even need to install drivers, just plug and play.
[22:12] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  so.. its just using usb for?... Power?
[22:12] <motaka2> Dr_willis: why dont you help me?
[22:12] <Dr_willis> motaka2,  i dont even recall the details of your problem.
[22:12] <danny4way> I am not sure if i should return or if there is some modification i can do to make that cooling pad work
[22:12] <numnum> but it got fried in this storm and I needed a new on so I just went to bestbuy
[22:12] <danny4way> It's USB cooling pad
[22:13] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  all those ive ever seen just use usb to power the fans.. unless it has some sort of fancy controller built in
[22:13] <danny4way> So is it cooling pad problem?
[22:13] <danny4way> It might be possible because I haven't tried with Windows or Mac yet
[22:13] <danny4way> Since I also don't have windows or mac
[22:13] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  with out more details.. we dont know. I cant imagine why a cooling pad would need anything on the OS.. did it come with a drivers disk?
[22:14] <reisio> danny4way: most laptops only have some usb ports with power
[22:14] <motaka2> Dr_willis: the graphical perfomance of my ubuntu 12.04 is low and sometimes netbeansd freezes
[22:14] <reisio> danny4way: typically only one, actually
[22:14] <reisio> but that's probably growing over time
[22:14] <danny4way> Oh wait.
[22:14] <danny4way> Yes. There is a CD
[22:14] <Dr_willis> motaka2,  i rarely mess with nvidia/drivers any more. mine just work.. i am on 13.04 and i dont use netbeans..   i basically ONLY use the nvidia drivers straight from the repos.
[22:14] <mattwj2002> O.o
[22:14] <danny4way> But that driver CD isn't working on my laptop. it's not running.
[22:15] <mattwj2002> a cd for a coolin fan?
[22:15] <mattwj2002> gee
[22:15] <danny4way> But I googled about it a few days ago that I can use wine for that.
[22:15] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  LOOK on the cd.. dont run/install stuff from it.. see whats on it.
[22:15] <reisio> danny4way: you don't need a driver for a cooling pad
[22:15] <numnum> Dr_willis, this is what I get when I run the makefile through konsole
[22:15] <reisio> danny4way: just put it into a _powered_ usb port
[22:15] <danny4way> Is it possible for me to use wine for drivers?
[22:15] <numnum> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.38-16-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/numnum/Usb modules
[22:15] <numnum> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-16-generic'
[22:15] <numnum>   Building modules, stage 2.
[22:15] <numnum>   MODPOST 1 modules
[22:15] <numnum> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-16-generic'
[22:15] <mattwj2002> !flood
[22:15] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  wine for drivers - unlinely.. unless its some weird device.
[22:15] <numnum> and thats it
[22:15] <reisio> "driver"
[22:15] <motaka2> Dr_willis: so what do u suggest ?
[22:16] <danny4way> OH OKay. I see. I think I need to return that and buy another one that just have USB
[22:16] <danny4way> The one that i bought was pretty cheap.
[22:16] <danny4way> I bought it with discount.
[22:16] <Dr_willis> motaka2,  test with 13.04 perhaps? it may just work
[22:16] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  ive never seen a USB cooling pad for a laptop that needed any support software.. unless it has some sort of software based on/off switch
[22:17] <danny4way> Oh okay. I see. Thank you very much Dr_willis
[22:17] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  or just stick the laptop up on some blocks of wood. ;)
[22:17] <danny4way> Does it work?
[22:17] <Dr_willis> a little $5 desk fan works wonders also.. moves a lot more air.
[22:17] <danny4way> I really don't know. I totally turned my laptop into Ubuntu from Windows a few months ago.
[22:17] <Shadowandlight> ugh now i ran out of HD space on my VBox install
[22:17] <Dr_willis> I have to keep telling the wife and kids.. DONT set your laptop on the bed or couch..   they cant seem toundersand why they keep crashing.
[22:18] <danny4way> First month i used, it was so fine.
[22:18] <danny4way> After that, it just start slowing down and over heating
[22:18] <numnum> So is there anyone here that can help me with actual software questions and not BS about cooling pads
[22:18] <danny4way> And when i type in sensors in terminal it's more than 90 degrees
[22:18] <motaka2> Dr_willis: I should upgarede? how long would that take? 13.04 is not LTS
[22:18] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  a good dusting with compressed air - may help.
[22:19] <Dr_willis> motaka2,  i dont worry about LTS. why are you worried about LTS.. you could test 13.04 and the hardware may 'work' out of the box.. thats what i suggested.
[22:19] <danny4way> Oh yeah. My laptop has a lot of dusts. I really ddin't know that dust can actually slow down the laptop
[22:19] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  lint and dust can STOP a fan from turning.
[22:19] <Dr_willis> i would of said clean it - befor you even tried a cooling pad.
[22:20] <danny4way> So when i buy that compressed air can, where should I spray? Do you recommend to spray the fan that exhale or inhale first?
[22:20] <Dr_willis> dont go berzerk with an air compressor. :) you can blow stuff apart.
[22:20] <rsc1> hi.
[22:21] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  perhaps hit  up youtube on 'how to clean a laptop'
[22:21] <danny4way> Oh okay. Thank you very much for answering .
[22:21] <danny4way> you actually helped me a lot.
[22:21] <Dr_willis> blow air the right way.. then reverse.. then back...
[22:21] <Dr_willis> give it a good cleaning. ;)
[22:21] <danny4way> Okay. I will. Thanks.
[22:21] <jonathan583> numnum: what's your problem. I might be able to help
[22:21] <jonathan583> (even though I'm actually here looking for help myself)
[22:25] <jonathan583> can anybody see this typing? (testing if I'm still connected- thanks!)
[22:25] <odd1> yes
[22:25] <jonathan583> thanks
[22:25] <odd1> np
[22:26] <odd1> hey guys I installed zorin os(based on ubuntu) on my secondary pc via the "replace windows xp", it deleted both partitions :(, which i ofc didnt expect and i lost my data... can someone point me in the right direction on how to salvage my data(or atleast part of it)???
[22:27] <jonathan583> odd1: I used to use an application for windows called "getdataback"
[22:28] <Shadowandlight> yea getdataback is pretty amazing
[22:29]  * Dr_willis wishes odd1  good luck.
[22:29] <odd1> can it search through an image?
[22:29] <jonathan583> odd1: if you're a high level linux user, you can try "dd" but I'd recommend against that for all but the most advanced of users
[22:29] <Dr_willis> #windows may offer other suggestions
[22:29] <odd1> cause someone suggested to me to first make an image of the entire hdd
[22:30] <jonathan583> odd1: you'd have to read up on it. I haven't used it in a few years.
[22:30] <Dr_willis> you can always try to image the hd to some location adn try to recovery from it. but not all tools can do that
[22:30] <odd1> yeah someone suggested dd, but im not nearly advanced enough
[22:30] <Dr_willis> if you reformated the windows paritons. the data may be gone.
[22:30] <odd1> kinda scared to lose it all
[22:30] <Dr_willis> It may allready be gone.
[22:30] <nmittal> is there a way to replace noveau with a specific driver for the onboard vga chip on my motherboard
[22:30] <Dr_willis> data worth keeping. is data worth backing up.
[22:30] <odd1> it deleted 2 partitions
[22:30] <odd1> 30/40gb
[22:30] <odd1> and made one 70gb
[22:31] <odd1> ext3 or whatever...
[22:31] <Dr_willis> you told it  'replace' and it did.. it deleted the 2 partions and made one for linux
[22:31] <odd1> both were ntfs before
[22:31] <iampoz> is aircrack-ng off topic here?
[22:31] <zykotick9> nmittal: do you have nvidia?  noveau is the free nvidia driver - it's for lots of chipsets.
[22:31] <Dr_willis> iampoz,  it normally has its own support areas since its a very specific tool
[22:32] <odd1> Dr_willis: do u think i lost everything... it did not turn the bits to 0 since it was fast format...
[22:32] <iampoz> well i am in the #aircrack-ng channel, does not look like anyone is home at the moment
[22:32] <odd1> but it changed the partition types
[22:32] <odd1> from ntfs to ext
[22:32] <Kitari> hi there I'm trying to install ubuntu and I get an error saying something like missing com32
[22:32] <ikonia> iampoz: here is not the right place
[22:32] <Dr_willis> odd1,  fast format? you are thinking in windows terms.. it made a ext4 partion and formated it to ext4 - that would not take very long at all
[22:32] <ikonia> Kitari: get the exact error
[22:32] <iampoz> ikonia, k
[22:32] <genial> Can anyone recommend me a http-downloader with multi-segment support, run from CLI? :)
[22:33] <zykotick9> genial: do you mean something wget doesn't do?
[22:33] <Kitari> ikonia that would mean rebooting -_- but yeah brb
[22:33] <nmittal> zykotick9, i have 2 nvidia gtx cards on the machine but I dont want to use them for display (only computation).. i want to use the onboard vga chip for display
[22:34] <zykotick9> nmittal: what chip is the onboard vga exactly?
[22:34] <man6>  watch movies while browsing p0rn, most user friendly interface, no spyware, totally FREE - http://www.6play.xxx
[22:34] <genial> zykotick9: yeah, don't think wget supports multiple connections to the same file
[22:34] <vinnyzee> is ubuntu 12.04.2 really so much more stable that its worth having the outdated software compared to 13.04
[22:34] <nmittal> zykotick9, not sure.. its the ASUS Z87-Pro motherboard
[22:34] <zykotick9> genial: well, i'd say, if wget can't do it - you probably shouldn't need it ;)  good luck.
[22:35] <zykotick9> nmittal: "lspci -v | grep -i vga" should show you.
[22:35] <Dr_willis> vinnyzee,  most peole seem to be 'scared' to have to upgrade again to the next release in a few months.. sort of  unjustified i think.
[22:35] <genial> Hehe thanks zykotick9 :) Downloading some huge files from across the globe, and connection speed is subpar. Seems aria2c will do what I want tho, I'll check that out!
[22:35] <Dr_willis> vinnyzee,  and a seperate home partion. makes upgradeing, or a clean install rather trivial
[22:36] <nmittal> zykotick9, http://fpaste.org/28461/13750509/
[22:36] <vinnyzee> Dr_willis, I am planning on reinstalling with a home partition. do I just shrink my 80gb partition to 20 gb / 60 gb /home
[22:36] <nmittal> zykotick9, i want to use the 1st one for display..
[22:36] <zykotick9> oh man, nmittal if i open this link and there are ads - i'm not gonna be happy...
[22:36] <vinnyzee> or do i have to tell the installer whats going on
[22:37] <danny4way> I need help with putting up Refresh option on right click
[22:37] <danny4way> I have no way I can refresh my computer.
[22:37] <nmittal> zykotick9, no its the result of the lspci command
[22:37] <hewhomust> vinny, you can just resize your partitions then mount them with the installer
[22:37] <Dr_willis> vinnyzee,  basically yes.   but with that small a  hard drive..  id personally leave it as one partion for /
[22:38] <Dr_willis> vinnyzee,  of course my /home/ is its own seperate 3TB hd. ;) i need space.
[22:38] <odd1> Dr_willis thanks for your help btw!¨
[22:38]  * Dr_willis blushes 
[22:38] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[22:38] <mattwj2002> installing xubuntu
[22:38] <zykotick9> nmittal: fedora - all good ;)  so that "Intel Corporation Haswell Integrated Graphics Controller " is i'm guessing your onboard graphics, i don't think intel and nouveau will conflict with one another, but propretary nvidia might?  (is this a hybrid/bumblebee type thing? or is that an actual separate MB video card?)
[22:38] <vinnyzee> Dr_willis, i have a 500 gb HD  currently about 330 gb of shared files and about 90/90 win linux
[22:39] <vinnyzee> Dr_willis, than obviously external drives too
[22:39] <kitarilou> hi again so the error message is failed to load com32 file menu.c32
[22:39] <Dr_willis> vinnyzee,   i moved my main linux setup to its own 128gb SSD for /   :) so i decided to keep /home/ on the old hard drive.
[22:39] <ikonia> kitarilou: that looks like you are trying to pxeboot syslinux
[22:39] <ikonia> kitarilou: how are you trying to boot ?
[22:39] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  we dont really know what you mean by  'refresh your computer'
[22:39] <vinnyzee> Dr_willis, if i am giving linux 80gb pretty much just for installation how many should go to / and how many for /home (all files will be saved on other HD / partitions)
[22:40] <kitarilou> via a usb drive I made with unetbootin
[22:40] <danny4way> Dr_willis, I mean like on windows, we have refresh option when we right click.
[22:40] <nmittal> zykotick9, the 1st one is currently running my display but is using the noveau driver..
[22:40] <ikonia> kitarilou: looks like it's not created properly
[22:40] <kitarilou> and I got this error message on 13.04 and 12.04 if I'm not mistaken
[22:40] <nmittal> zykotick9, but noveau conflicts with nvidia so i am not able to use the other two cards for computation
[22:41] <zykotick9> kitarilou: unetbootin might not be your best choice for creating USB images... you might want to try another method of creating the USB
[22:41] <kitarilou> it happenned twice on 2 versions
[22:41] <ikonia> kitarilou: then it looks like it's not making them correctly
[22:41] <hewhomust> vinny, I would just make one root partition since all of your data will be on another partition
[22:41] <kitarilou> it is the only one I know -_-
[22:41] <kitarilou> and it always worked before
[22:41] <Kitt3n> Is there a reason for only getting max 10 fps in Minecraft with the ATI open source driver?
[22:41] <kitarilou> do you know what I should do?
[22:41] <ikonia> kitarilou: remake the images
[22:42] <kitarilou> k
[22:42] <zykotick9> nmittal: so can you use the MB intel for you graphics output?  and the propritary nvidia on the other two?  (i wish i knew ; try it and see)
[22:42] <troglobite> kitarilou, What OS are you loading th usb in?
[22:42] <vinnyzee> hewhomust, wouldn't adding a /home partition basically mean i could reinstall ubuntu at any point and not even notice any settings and software changes?
[22:42] <kitarilou> troglobite, I first used 13.04
[22:43] <nmittal> zykotick9, thats what I want to do.. but when I try to install nvidia drivers (to use the other two cards for computation).. it complains that there is noveau installed... and tries to replace it.. which is a problem!
[22:43] <zykotick9> nmittal: ahhh, are you installing the driver from nvidia.com?
[22:43] <hewhomust> vinny, yeah but the software will be deleted anyway and it's probably only worth it if you have a lot of config files, since you have data on your other partitions
[22:43] <kitarilou> when i got the error message I thought it was a problem with the download so I used 12.04
[22:43] <Lope> is there any way to force apt to do hash checks on all the files in /var/cache/apt-get/archive?
[22:43] <nmittal> zykotick9, yes
[22:43] <vinnyzee> ah alright
[22:43] <troglobite> kitarilou, I don't know your history here so you are loading what ISO using 13.04?
[22:44] <zykotick9> nmittal: 'cause installing the nvidia driver (the ubuntu way) will auto blacklist nouveau...
[22:44] <Maserati> RUSIAN SOCCER LEAGuE on stream... on www.refectori.com
[22:44] <kitarilou> oh you meant from what os I was making the flashdrive?
[22:44] <kitarilou> win8 -_-
[22:44] <zykotick9> nmittal: if you've installed the nvidia.com driver (at any point).  I consider your ubuntu to be broken.  i can't help you further, best of luck.
[22:44] <nmittal> zykotick9, but if noveau is blacklisted my display would stop working.. rt?
[22:45] <nmittal> zykotick9, i havent installed nvidia
[22:45] <hewhomust> kita, can you check the hash sum on the iso it might be a bad iso
[22:45] <troglobite> kitarilou, Yes, a number of usb loaders for windows here check the md5sum of the iso as well. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[22:45] <troglobite> !md5sum | kitarilou
[22:46] <zykotick9> nmittal: sorry, i "won't" help further - i asked, did you install nvidia.com and you said yes!?!  good luck (don't include my nick in any other posts, i won't even see them).
[22:46] <troglobite> !tab | hewhomust
[22:46] <kitarilou> I'm getting lost here what are those?
[22:46] <vectra> kitarilou,        i have used unetbootin a lot  in other OS               just tried in win 8 last night   and had failures
[22:46] <troglobite> !who | kitarilou
[22:46] <hewhomust> sorry
[22:47] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  no needs to msg me.. and F5 in the nautius file manger refreshes the same as it does in windows I belive.
[22:47] <troglobite> kitarilou, You are trying to load a usb with 13.04 in W8 I sent you a website with several usb loaders that runin windows.
[22:47] <kitarilou> vectra, k thanks than I'll just use another os then and if that doesn't work I'll comme back and bother you again
[22:48] <kitarilou> thanks to you all*
[22:48] <danny4way> Oh. Sorry Dr_willis
[22:48] <vectra> kitarilou,     win 8     May be the issue
[22:48] <troglobite> kitarilou,I also included the wiki on checking if the iso you have is good, by checking the md5sum.
[22:48] <hewhomust> hes gone
[22:48] <danny4way> I have another question. Why doesn't sudo apt-get update doesn't work on my ubuntu terminal
[22:48] <Dolphin-man> man
[22:48] <troglobite> vectra, W8 can load usb you just need the correct one to you.
[22:48] <troglobite> use*
[22:48] <Dolphin-man> i just got the boot from #debian
[22:49] <Dolphin-man> i guess they dont want my business
[22:49] <hewhomust> lol
[22:49] <Kitt3n> danny4way, what happens when you run it?
[22:49] <ikonia> Dolphin-man: neither do we
[22:49] <Dr_willis> danny4way,  without us posting an error emssage.. we dont know.
[22:49] <Dr_willis> er you posting an error message to us. ;)
[22:49] <Dolphin-man> jokes on you
[22:49] <Dolphin-man> im already using ubuntu
[22:49] <nautics> It's not too tricky to setup a bootable thumb drive with ubuntu using a mac, is it?
[22:49] <hewhomust> hmm, I'm on debian I didn't see you lol
[22:49] <ikonia> Dolphin-man: this is your only warning - no messing around like in #debian
[22:49] <danny4way> danny4way@Danny:~$ sudo apt-get update
[22:49] <danny4way> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com raring Release.gpg
[22:49] <danny4way> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates Release.gpg
[22:49] <danny4way> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security Release.gpg
[22:49] <danny4way> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net raring Release.gpg
[22:49] <FloodBot1> danny4way: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <danny4way> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com raring-backports Release.gpg
[22:49] <troglobite> Dolphin-man, A boot is proceeded by a problem, I would not use it as bragging rights
[22:49] <hewhomust> wow
[22:49] <vectra> troglobite,        could be    he was using unetbootine and I had the same issue last night
[22:49] <Dr_willis> nautics,  you can image the iso file directly to the usb using differnt tools. the pendrivelinux site has guides
[22:50] <nautics> gotcha, thanks
[22:50] <Dr_willis> nautics,  making a persistant save  setup will be a little tricker. but you dont need that to make an installer-usb
[22:50] <troglobite> vectra, right but without specifics it is just more confusing.
[22:51] <vectra> the issue well may be unnetbootin is not win 8 compatable
[22:51] <hewhomust> it is i have used it
[22:51] <Dr_willis> using unetbootin to make a windows8 boot usb? I think you can image the windows 8 dvd straight to flash also. (id check in #windows however)
[22:51] <vectra> well it was   win 8.1   trial really
[22:52] <Dr_willis> ive used windows 8 for like exactly 5 min..  once...
[22:52] <dirtydaw1> evening all
[22:52] <hewhomust> lol
[22:52] <Dolphin-man> >come to #ubuntu
[22:52] <mercer> Evening
[22:52] <reisio> 'lo
[22:52] <Dolphin-man> >ask for windows support
[22:52] <Dolphin-man> trollfage.png
[22:52] <Dr_willis> Dolphin-man,  troll elsewhere please.
[22:52] <mercer> XD
[22:52] <vectra> Dr_willis,    no      using unetbootin on win 8 to make a ubuntu   live USB
[22:52] <flipper88_fl> i beleive that channel would be #windows
[22:53] <gschiller> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu
[22:53] <Lope> how do I use debsums without checking my entire hard drive?
[22:53] <hewhomust> hi g
[22:53] <Dr_willis> vectra,  theres dozens of alternative tools  for the same task at the Pendrivelinux web site. I tend to use those.
[22:53] <gschiller> I'm a young rails and python dev
[22:53] <gschiller> Is Ubuntu >  Windows for dev. and why?
[22:54] <barrett__> does 'diff -qr' work on folders with binary files?
[22:54] <reisio> gschiller: yes, in every possible way it'd take all year to list
[22:54] <vectra> Dr_willis,     yes and   some of those dont work on win 8 either
[22:54] <vectra> i tied
[22:54] <reisio> barrett__: course, if they're different
[22:54] <vectra> tried
[22:54] <Dr_willis> vectra,  simpleist way would be to use a imageing tool to make a straight image of the iso to the usb. those most always work for me
[22:54] <reisio> barrett__: if you wanted to be 100% sure you'd want to use cmp, though
[22:54] <jrib> !ot | gschiller
[22:54] <barrett__> reisio, so the fact that the manpage keeps pointing out it does 'line comparison' doesn't mean its bad for binaries?
[22:55] <jonathan583> Hey, I've been working on my upgrade issue, and I think there's something wrong with the video card driver settings in X. Is there a command line utility that goes through it or do i have to manually edit xorg.conf
[22:55] <jonathan583> ?
[22:55] <reisio> barrett__: it's not bad, it's just not 100% perfect
[22:55] <gschiller> Sorry, all
[22:55] <barrett__> reisio, well why would cmp be better?  the problem is cmp doesn't work on folders,
[22:55] <barrett__> reisio, so the only way to compare folders of binary filse is to write my own script then?
[22:55] <reisio> barrett__: yeah you'd probably want to parse diff's output, or use find + cmp
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> vectra, I happen to be in W8 and am loading supergrub with no problems using unetbootin. I would not use unetbootin to download any iso though.
[22:55] <reisio> barrett__: probably not, but, probably the easiest way is
[22:56] <gschiller> !ot
[22:56] <vectra> Dr_willis,     sure     I would    and did do that            I just tried   on win 8 because I downloaded to that machine
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> loaded without a problem vect0r
[22:56] <jonathan583> (my desktop is totally unusuable. I did restart lightdm but it didn't help)
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> vectra, loaded without a problem
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> sorry vect0r
[22:56] <barrett__> reisio, thanks.  can I ask when you say diff wouldn't be 100% can you give me any specific details of what you mean by that?  how might it not work, i mean?
[22:56] <Lope> I'm trying to use debsums to scan my apt-get cache directory, but its scanning my entire hard drive. how do I make it JUST scan the specified folder? this is the command I'm using:
[22:57] <vectra> wilee-nilee,      ok   good          but mine was 8.1     and maybe different
[22:57] <barrett__> because it's EXACTLY what i'm looking for, except the 'line comparison' thing scares me
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> vectra, I doubt that.
[22:57] <gschiller> Is booting ubuntu from usb going to be adequate?
[22:57] <Lope> debsums -p --deb-path=/var/cac/apt/archives
[22:57] <vectra> not my issue anyway              i have lots of other options
[22:58] <vectra> like    LINUX      hahaha
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> gschiller, For what?
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> vectra, Not your issue, my point is just don't post a did not work for me.
[22:58] <reisio> barrett__: :)
[22:58] <barrett__> reisio, when it finds differences in binary files, apparently it says "binary files differ" instead of showing a line difference
[22:58] <reisio> barrett__: http://superuser.com/questions/125376/how-do-i-compare-binary-files-in-linux has some good looking stuff
[22:58] <barrett__> gives me a little more confidence
[22:58] <barrett__> ah thank you
[22:59] <vectra> wilee-nilee,     rthe person that i told that to had the same issue as i did
[22:59] <gschiller> wilee-nilee for programming
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> gschiller, Honestly that makes no sense.
[22:59] <Dr_willis> gschiller,  totally depends on the details. You can do a FULL normal installto a good enough sized usb flash drive. or usb hd.
[23:00] <Dr_willis> gschiller,  it will be slower then a HD install. but it can work fine for many people
[23:00] <gschiller> I currently have it on a usb
[23:00] <gschiller> from linux live
[23:00] <Dr_willis> a full install is differnt then a live-usb setup
[23:00] <reisio> gschiller: works fine IME, you might get speed gains by using ext4 without its journal
[23:00] <reisio> or some other FS designed for solid state
[23:00] <Dr_willis> i ran off a 32gb usb flash for several months
[23:00] <gschiller> if I boot and install with bios will that work well?
[23:01] <gschiller> or will that overwrite shit?
[23:01] <reisio> Dr_willis: why didn't it just leave?
[23:01] <reisio> sheesh
[23:01] <reisio> gschiller: hrmm?
[23:01] <gschiller> if I install ubuntu from usb with bios
[23:02] <gschiller> will it overwrite other shit
[23:02] <reisio> from usb?
[23:02] <reisio> what do you mean by with bios
[23:02] <gschiller> or will I be able to have two os simultaneously
[23:02] <gschiller> like
[23:02] <reisio> you can have two simultaneously
[23:02] <reisio> I don't know what you're asking other than that
[23:02] <gschiller> ok
[23:02] <gschiller> in bios
[23:02] <reisio> in bios
[23:02] <reisio> in bios what?
[23:02] <gschiller> I can install the os right?
[23:02] <hewhomust> lol I have 4 oses dont worry
[23:02] <reisio> you don't install an OS "in bios"
[23:02] <gschiller> okay I mean
[23:02] <gschiller> I boot
[23:02] <gschiller> hit f10
[23:03] <reisio> oh
[23:03] <gschiller> then what?
[23:03] <ikonia> !langauage | gschiller
[23:03] <reisio> the bios boot menu
[23:03] <gschiller> yesyes
[23:03] <ikonia> !language | gschiller
[23:03] <reisio> gschiller: you can boot from the usb explicitly via such a menu, yes
[23:03] <reisio> gschiller: for the install media
[23:03] <reisio> gschiller: after you install, it'd be more... normal to just let the boot loader give you the choice
[23:03] <reisio> if you install, that is
[23:03] <gschiller> okayokay
[23:03] <gschiller> How does the data storage work with 2 os?
[23:04] <reisio> gschiller: some data's here, some is there :p
[23:04] <Dr_willis> which 2 os's ?
[23:04]  * wilee-nilee fires up stop making sense by the talking heads
[23:04] <reisio> you have to have disk space somewhere for each OS
[23:04] <jonathan583> if I do a system upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS do I need to reinstall my nvidia driver?
[23:04] <gschiller> ubuntu and 7
[23:04] <gschiller> okok
[23:04] <reisio> jonathan583: most likely but not necessarily
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> jonathan583, This a desktop or server
[23:04] <Dr_willis> jonathan583,  very likely yes. it depends on how you installed it in the first place
[23:04] <gschiller> but do I manually separate the amount of diskspace
[23:04] <reisio> more importantly: it doesn't matter if you need to :p
[23:05] <reisio> gschiller: that is the normal course if you have only one disk, yes
[23:05] <Dr_willis> gschiller,  you can if you want a swperate data partion for stuff
[23:05] <Lope> can someone help me with debsums please?
[23:05] <reisio> gschiller: I believe the installer can also attempt to automatically resize
[23:05] <reisio> Lope: no, but probably some people can
[23:05] <gschiller> ah okok
[23:05] <^Mike> Is there a directory where you can drop a file that specifies a cronjob and it'll be found and run on schedule? That would seem to be easier for automated tools, rather than trying to edit the same cron file as a human
[23:05] <gschiller> Is it hard to repartition if I need more/less?
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> !details > Lope
[23:05] <reisio> gschiller: resizing partitions isn't 100% safe, so you should backup any critical data beforehand
[23:06] <reisio> gschiller: it's quite simple, you can do it manually before running the installer, by selecting 'try' from the install media
[23:06] <reisio> gschiller: and running gparted
[23:06] <ikonia> ^Mike: you can do crontab filname and replace the crontab with a pre-made file
[23:06] <gschiller> okay
[23:06] <gschiller> Wish me luck friends
[23:06] <jonathan583> !details > jonathan583
[23:06] <reisio> gschiller: it's quite a lot simpler if you just have a spare disk
[23:06] <ikonia> ^Mike: there is also the cron.daily, cron.monthly, cron.weekly directories
[23:06] <Shadowandlight> anyone ever get copy-paste to work from a windows host to ubuntu server via virtualbox / guest additions
[23:06] <reisio> gschiller: and since you'll almost certainly need more storage space eventually anyways, you might just go get another disk
[23:06] <gschiller> laptop dude
[23:06] <Shadowandlight> i've followed all the instructions i can find and it refuses to work
[23:07] <reisio> Shadowandlight: an ubuntu server with a DE?
[23:07] <Shadowandlight> DE?
[23:07] <reisio> Shadowandlight: the guest additions are more targeted towards desktop installs
[23:07] <Shadowandlight> oh]
[23:07] <reisio> Shadowandlight: did you try middle-mouse-click to paste?
[23:07] <ikonia> make sure gpm is running
[23:07] <Shadowandlight> i suppose i can try to ssh into the box eh?
[23:07] <reisio> Shadowandlight: also you could just ssh in yes
[23:08] <hewhomust> reisio, yeah but it's still pretty easy to manually do it I have 4 oses, and two ntfs partitions
[23:08] <AndroidFanboy> hey can u guys help me???
[23:08] <ikonia> AndroidFanboy: if you have an ubuntu question, we can try
[23:08] <Gh0stRAT> AndroidFanboy: It depends. What is your question?
[23:08] <reisio> hewhomust: yes, still
[23:08] <AndroidFanboy> I tried to install backtrack on my asus g75vx but when i try to boot it only boots windows 8
[23:08] <ikonia> AndroidFanboy: that's not an ubuntu question
[23:08] <Lope> I'm trying to use debsums to scan my apt-get cache directory, but its scanning my entire hard drive. how do I make it JUST scan the specified dir? this is the command I'm using: debsums -p --deb-path=/var/cac/apt/archives
[23:08] <ikonia> AndroidFanboy: we only deal with ubuntu questions in here
[23:09] <jonathan583> maybe, what's the problem?
[23:09] <AndroidFanboy> is there a channel for backtrack?
[23:09] <ikonia> AndroidFanboy: #backtrack-linux
[23:09] <AndroidFanboy> thanx bro
[23:09] <reisio> AndroidFanboy: /msg alis list *backtrack*
[23:09] <reisio> AndroidFanboy: /msg alis list *whatever*
[23:09] <reisio> AndroidFanboy: /msg alis list *muffins*cheese*
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> heh /msg alis list rasbery scones
[23:10] <hewhomust> gschiller, how big is your laptop's hardrive?
[23:10] <reisio> *ras*erry*scones*
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> ;O)
[23:11] <tgm> !paste
[23:13] <Aqrta> http://www.naked-julia.com/?uid=935734   -> click this link please, it's for a good cause (boobs)
[23:13] <jonathan583> ok, that was the problem. When doing the 10.04 lts desktop -> 12.04 LTS desktop, the video driver got kicked out and I needed to reinstall the proprietary driver
[23:13] <Streusel> what the..
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Aqrta
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> Pici, Sorry to bother you most times they log off immediately.
[23:15] <Pici> wilee-nilee: no bother
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> jonathan583, The proprietary is not usually the one used, but if you know whats up it is okay.
[23:16] <rusty> scsi64bit
[23:17] <Guest44734> rusty101
[23:17] <Shadowandlight> oh god ssh into this box and using copy/paste has just dramatically improved my life
[23:17] <jonathan583> thanks guys
[23:17] <rusty101> scsi64bit
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> rusty101, Whay are you just posting that?
[23:18] <rusty101> noob
[23:18] <rusty101> screwed up
[23:19] <Lope> night night, thanks for the help
[23:21] <Gh0stRAT> Rusty: wtf do you keep changing your name all the time?
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> !language > Gh0stRAT
[23:23] <ckp_> rusty101
[23:25] <pcbryan> UBUNTU!
[23:26] <SunStar> MySQL server was upgraded to 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.13.04.1 by software updates yesterday and now server monitoring through phpMyAdmin is broken
[23:27] <pcbryan> that makes sense
[23:29] <tekkbuzz> anyone know why when I do - apt-get dist-upgrade  It doesn't include kubuntu and I still get a System Notification saying a newer version of kubuntu is available?
[23:30] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | tekkbuzz
[23:31] <tekkbuzz> okay jrib : thanks a lot, appreciate that.
[23:37] <newuserGuy> guys in vim when i try 'd$'   it says 'd'  should showup on the lowest line but it doesn't
[23:37] <newuserGuy> but 'd$'  does what it should
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> Have a tar extracted correcty cd'd to the folder the read says this Run script ./install as "root" not sure what to do at this point.
[23:38] <jrib> newuserGuy: you said you tried 'd$' and it does one thing then you said you tried 'd$' and it does another thing... you said the same command twice
[23:39] <jrib> wilee-nilee: what is your goal?
[23:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> jrib, Install
[23:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I cannot "modprobe nf_nat_irc" or "modprobe_nf_nat_ftp" ... :(
[23:39] <jrib> newuserGuy: do you mean that you want the partial command 'd' to show up in your status bar?
[23:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> on Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS amd64...
[23:40] <Emmanuel_Chanel> How can I help that?
[23:40] <jrib> wilee-nilee: install what...?
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> jrib, It is mail wash beta
[23:40] <jrib> wilee-nilee: do you understand the risks with running random things from third parties as root?
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> jrib oh yes this is a legit app.
[23:41] <gregor_> how do i get skype for on ubuntu do i search it in the software center ?
[23:41] <SunStar> its in software center, its also available for download from microsoft
[23:42] <jrib> wilee-nilee: then you have to follow its documentation. There aren't universal install instructions for random apps.  If it says you should run ./install as root, then that's what you need to do (you can read "as root" as "with sudo" in ubuntu)
[23:42] <jrib> !skype | gregor_
[23:42] <gregor_> ty
[23:42] <SunStar> !pidgin
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> jrib, Cool I tried but this is out of my general use area I rarely have installed using a tar is all, no biggie though.
[23:42] <SunStar> hey there is a trigger. sweet
[23:47] <sternwanderer> does anyone in here usy yahoo mail? the shortcut for sending mails in ubuntu firefox (ctrl + return) doesn't work, in windows it does :/ any suggestions?
[23:47] <sternwanderer> *usy = use
[23:48] <Dr_willis> theres not a send button to click?
[23:48] <sternwanderer> i want to send by keyboard shortcut and avoid using the mouse
[23:48] <gregor_> there is no resulats for skype in the softwere centere should i downlaod it via terminal ?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> its very likely that  shortcut is being grabbed by the window manager, or desktop.
[23:49] <Shadowandlight> "./manage.py collectstatic --noinput" outputs ""Could not find backend '%s': %s" % (backend, e))
[23:49] <Shadowandlight> django.core.cache.backends.base.InvalidCacheBackendError: Could not find backend                    'infinite_memcached.cache.MemcachedCache': No module named infinite_memcached.c                   ache"
[23:49] <sternwanderer> interesting, thanks for that hint, Dr_willis
[23:49] <sternwanderer> i'll investigate on that :)
[23:50] <gregor_>  Unable to locate package skype thats what it saied when i tryed the terminal
[23:50] <Dr_willis> test it by trying a very minimal window manager like jwm  thats not grabbing any shortcutskeys
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> so if one has a extracted tar in home that needs the install run as ./install as root what is the cli path?
[23:50] <heslam> hi guys. i've accidentally turned an ext4 partition into a fat16 one, and although the data is all still there (i used file recovery software to pull it out), i'm not sure how to turn it back into an ext4 partition safely, preserving the directory structure. what's the best way to say "mount this partition *as ext4* no matter what"
[23:50] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  whever/whaever the tar extracted to
[23:51] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  ./whatever   imples you are IN the same directory as the 'whatever' binary.
[23:51] <Dr_willis> thats what the ./ part means.. thats the relative path.  ./ = current directory
[23:51] <MathCubes_> Can any one help me
[23:51] <MathCubes_> ?
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, In this area I am a noob, lol
[23:51] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  only if you ask a real question
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> besides all the rest
[23:51] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  its rather bash basics..  time to hit a bash tutorial or 2. :)
[23:52] <MathCubes_> mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock
[23:52] <MathCubes_> mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock
[23:52] <MathCubes_> I do I remove it ?
[23:52] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  so what sort of cd is in the drive?
[23:52] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  you mean how to you 'eject' the disk?
[23:52] <MathCubes_> no
[23:52] <MathCubes_> reformat
[23:52] <Dr_willis> formating a cd? you mean a cd-rw? dvd-rw?
[23:53] <MathCubes_> cd-rw rewritablr
[23:53]  * Dr_willis is getting sick of playing 20 questions.
[23:53] <MathCubes_> le
[23:53] <Dr_willis> You use one of the cd burning apps to erase the disk.
[23:53] <Dr_willis> you DONT mount it to erase it.
[23:53] <MathCubes_> not working
[23:53] <pcbryan> :-|
[23:53] <Dr_willis> 'not working' tells us nothing... give more details..
[23:53] <MathCubes_> when I go to mount it it says in the terminal ^^^^
[23:53] <Dr_willis> you do NOT MOUNT a cd-rw to 'erase' it..
[23:54] <Dr_willis> you would mount it to read data from it.
[23:54] <MathCubes_> it wasn't mounting
[23:54] <MathCubes_> in root
[23:54] <Dr_willis> so.. start from the beginning.. you want to do what exactly with this  cd-rw disk?
[23:54] <^Mike> Apparently adding a file to /etc/profile.d that declares a shell function causes logins to fail. Any idea why? I would have expected the file to be sourced just like any other, creating a shell function accessible in the terminal after the user logs in.
[23:55] <jrib> ^Mike: be more verbose
[23:55] <^Mike> If I want to add a shell function that's accessible globally on the system, where should I be putting it other than /etc/profile.d?
[23:55]  * wilee-nilee now knows how the noobs feel on this channel. ;)
[23:55] <MathCubes_> it has write-protected so how do i remove that?
[23:55] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  you only write to cd-rw disks  when you burn an image to them. or other wise burn them the first time. You do not treat them like big floppy disks.
[23:55] <^Mike> Well, what do you want to know? When you try to log in, the password is accepted, and it looks like login has succeeded, but then you're kicked back to the login screen with no error message or anything.
[23:56] <reisio> ^Mike: skel?
[23:56] <jrib> ^Mike: exactly what are you doing...?
[23:56] <^Mike> jrib: I did an experiment to show that it was this file -- if I comment out the function, login succeeds.
[23:56] <jrib> ^Mike: ok /I/ will be more verbose.  Pastebin what your file actually looks like.
[23:56] <MathCubes_> @Drwillis I want to elease what I have on the disk?
[23:57] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  then i suggest using the cd-dvd-burner apps to erase (ie: blank) the disk
[23:57] <^Mike> jrib: I created a file /etc/profile.d/sublime_text.sh which contained one line: function e() { "/opt/Sublime Text 2/sublime_text" "$@" &>/dev/null & }
[23:57] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  you do not mount them and treat them as a big floppy, or normal drive.
[23:57] <jrib> ^Mike: you keep saying "the function".  I don't know what "the function" is.  If you prefer guess, in general /etc/profile get sourced by lots of different shells so it should probably only have things that would work on sh
[23:57] <jrib> sh being dash
[23:58] <^Mike> I just showed you the function I'm talking about -_-
[23:58] <^Mike> that is the exact source
[23:58] <Dr_willis> ^Mike,  i think theres a /etc/profile file that has default alias's  and functions like that in it.
[23:58] <MathCubes_> @Dr_willis I can't use a app because it woun't work I try and in the terminal as root. it says it is write-protected,
[23:58] <^Mike> Dr_willis: Yes. I know. I'm trying to add a new one. And then logging in got broken O_o
[23:58] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  you use an app.. thats how you do it.
[23:58] <MathCubes_> I try k3b
[23:58] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  theres dozens of burner apps in the repos
[23:59] <jrib> ^Mike: get rid of the &> stuff
[23:59] <MathCubes_> @Dr_willis how can I remove write-protected on the cd?
[23:59] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  you dont.. you write to it with a burning app and thats it.. you do not treat it as a hard drive/floppy disk.
[23:59] <Dr_willis> the burnibng app burns/writes to it.. and its done.