[00:05] <xnox> maennchen: use manual partitioning on mini.iso or server cd.
[04:13] <pitti> Good morning
[04:51] <jose> hello, pitti!
[06:19] <DanChapman> Good Morning all :-)
[06:22] <elfy> morning DanChapman
[07:04] <pitti> jodh: good morning
[07:04] <pitti> jodh: sorry, I guess when I tested that I still had a VM created with a modified prepare-testbed (with a different approach) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5924210/ should work now
[07:30] <WebbyIT> Hi all :) Someone can help me with autopilot for U-Touch Core App? I need to close and reopen the app, but I don't know how to close... some references?
[07:36] <pitti> WebbyIT: unless the app has a "close" menu item, it's not normally intended to explicitly close apps; you just switch between them
[07:36] <pitti> WebbyIT: if that's for some internal thing, you could just SIGTERM it, of course
[07:37] <WebbyIT> pitti, thanks for helping. It's for #1188716, what do you think?
[07:37] <WebbyIT> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1188716
[07:38] <WebbyIT> I have to tear off a calculation, close the app, relaunch the app and check if the calc was saved
[07:38] <pitti> WebbyIT: sounds like terminating it with the Python API is right then; hang on, let me check something
[07:38] <pitti> :q
[07:38] <pitti> err, -EFOCUS
[07:39] <WebbyIT> thanks
[07:54] <pitti> WebbyIT: hm, I'm trying to see how one gets from the "self.app" object that gets returned by self.launch_test_application() to a subprocess.Popen object
[07:54] <pitti> (sorry, was OTP)
[07:56] <pitti> WebbyIT: ah, so self.app.process is the Popen object
[07:56] <pitti> WebbyIT: so you can use
[07:56] <pitti> self.app.process.terminate()
[07:57] <pitti> self.app.process.wait()
[07:57] <pitti> WebbyIT: to quit it, and then re-start it with launch_test_application
[07:57] <WebbyIT> pitti cool, thank you very much :D
[09:38] <WebbyIT> pitti, can you help me with bug? I'm looking how to relaunch the app, I think to something like CalculatorTestCase().setUp(), but I get an error... (setUp calls launch_test_application)
[09:39] <slickymaster> good morning all
[09:42] <elfy> hello slickymaster
[09:45] <pitti> WebbyIT: you really shouldn't call setUp() again; in the test case taht calls terminate/wait, just call launch_test_application again
[09:52] <WebbyIT> pitti, ok, thanks, now works... But I can't use functions defined in simplepage, it gives me an error...
[09:52] <WebbyIT> pitti, sorry for the trouble!
[09:59] <Noskcaj> I've found three new installer bugs while i was away from the internet, i'll have them filed by tomorrow
[10:10] <slickymaster> elfy, hello
[10:44] <DanChapman> jibel, hey is it the ubiquity tests or the runner causing the problems? As i can't run the tests with the runner locally but they are working fine not using the runner
[10:45] <jibel> DanChapman, I didn't look yet, maybe it is because it is not the latest image
[11:05] <DanChapman> jibel, ok It seems its an ubiquity attribute error. The process has no poll attribute. Will need to get xnox to take a look
[11:05] <xnox> DanChapman: is that on the jenkins test?
[11:05] <DanChapman> xnox, yeah https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot_ubiquity-saucy/lastCompletedBuild/ARCH=i386,TESTNAME=ubiquity,label=rabisu/testReport/ubiquity.tests.test_default/DefaultInstallTests/test_default_install/
[11:06] <DanChapman> on all tests
[11:06] <xnox> thanks will look into it in a sec.
[11:06] <DanChapman> xnox, cheers mate
[14:40] <balloons> WebbyIT, how's the tear off test coming?
[14:47] <WebbyIT> balloons, it's ready
[14:47] <WebbyIT> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1188716
[14:47] <balloons> WebbyIT, :-) That was last test needed for calc! Hurray
[14:47] <WebbyIT> balloons, but it will not work until #1188292 is fixed
[14:47] <balloons> bug 1188292
[14:48] <WebbyIT> balloons, I'm sure that the test works because I used only functions that works in other test
[14:49] <WebbyIT> well, not sure but 99% :D
[14:49] <balloons> WebbyIT, hmm.. can we send a nicer signal to the application? like a SIGUP?
[14:49] <balloons> or does it matter? perhaps it will always fail
[14:50] <WebbyIT> balloons, well, I use process.terminate(), there is a better way?
[14:51] <balloons> WebbyIT, well that
[14:51] <balloons> WebbyIT, that
[14:51] <balloons> lol
[14:51] <WebbyIT> balloons, :D
[14:51] <balloons> that's probably the right way to do it, I'm just thinking of working around it for the moment. It works when you manually push the close button right?
[14:52] <balloons> so it must be getting a different signal. We can try and send the same signal in the test
[14:52] <WebbyIT> balloons, IMO the best way, one for a forced closure, like that, and one for normal closure
[14:53] <WebbyIT> balloons, yes, if you close the app with the close button, on PC, calc has been saved
[14:53] <balloons> right.. in other words I'd like to merge your test now with the "working way" and once the bug is fixed, add that too
[14:53] <WebbyIT> balloons, nice. How we can fix it to work?
[14:54] <WebbyIT> balloons, I have to move mouse on button then click?
[14:57] <balloons> WebbyIT, well it's about sending the proper signal
[15:02] <WebbyIT> balloons, ok, I'm going to search the proper way! I'll inform you when I'll found something :)
[15:16] <balloons> WebbyIT, sorry was in a meeting ;-)
[15:17] <balloons> WebbyIT, so I was trying to say let's look at the signal it's sending
[15:17] <balloons> WebbyIT, if we send a terminate signal, not a kill signal, i believe it will work
[15:18] <balloons> WebbyIT, kill -s TERM pid
[15:18] <balloons> WebbyIT, let me try that manually on my bo
[15:21] <balloons> WebbyIT, :-( properly terminating it didn't work either.. I'll keep trying different signals till I find it
[15:22] <WebbyIT> balloons, ok, thanks :)
[15:25] <balloons> WebbyIT, no luck with signals.. I wonder if we can click the close button :-)
[15:30] <balloons> WebbyIT, I've got a way to do it :-)
[15:31] <balloons> we can at least run your test
[15:32] <balloons> WebbyIT, so signals didn't work, but you can issue the XEvent and have it function correctly. So wmctrl -c "qmlscene: calculator" will close the window and have it save the tearoff
[15:33] <balloons> so as a way to test anyways, replace your python code to close the calculator with shelling out and issuing that call. it should workaround for now
[15:39] <pitti> jodh, jibel: FYI, I added my current proposal to bug 1158391
[15:40] <pitti> jodh, jibel: that's less ephemeral than IRC pings and pastebins :)
[15:40] <jodh> pitti: thanks!
[15:40] <jibel> pitti, or my brain :)
[15:41] <pitti> jodh: not sure whether you got my IRC ping from this morning, but I fixed the "no group kvm" issue
[15:43] <jodh> pitti: sorry - didn't see the ping, but I ended up with the same fix, thanks.
[15:44] <pitti> jodh: yeah, wasn't quite rocket science :)
[15:44] <pitti> jodh: I tried a different approach before that, and my pristine VM still had kvm installed, so I didn't notice
[15:47] <jodh> pitti: ah :) I'm getting close to being able to run the upstart tests in the pristine vm now. I've created a pseudo-adt variable ADT_ENVIRON_TYPE=nested so that when I run the dep-8 test from within the pristine environment they can check that variable and know which "level" they are running at.
[15:47] <pitti> jodh: ah, I had assumed you'd put debian/tests/controller into Tests:, and the controller script starts the child VMs and runs debian/tests/realtest or sth. like that
[15:48] <jodh> pitti: I may end up doing that. trying a few different approaches atm.
[15:50] <jodh> pitti: I'm also wondering if I should maybe use libvirt/virsh rather than kvm directly to make managing the vm easier.
[15:50] <pitti> jodh: I haven't tried libvirt yet; I find calling kvm directly easy enough, and easy to handle with subprocess
[15:52] <jodh> pitti: sure, I'm using shell though :)
[15:53] <pitti> jodh: well, &, kill, fg :)
[15:54] <jibel> jodh, virsh needs more setup than direct qemu, which anyway ends up generating a qemu command
[15:57] <jodh> pitti/jibel: understood, but I'm thinking of the scenario where I'm booting kvm in the background and am running a test via ssh. What if the VM freezes and the ssh connection just hangs?
[15:58] <jodh> pitti/jibel: I need a main loop so I can run the test, but periodically ping the VM or something so I know it's still alive.
[16:00]  * pitti waves goodnight
[16:00] <DanChapman> ir //temp-dir
[16:09] <jibel> jodh, well, there are several options here, ping a service inside the vm, use qemu monitor (or qmp) to check/control the state of the vm or encapsulate the ssh call in a timeout. It depends on what "freezes" means and which state the VM is
[16:16] <DanChapman> balloons, Hey. You got a moment?
[16:17] <balloons> DanChapman, hey mate!
[16:17] <balloons> I'm in a meetin' but shoot
[16:20] <DanChapman> balloons, just knocked up a quick terminal test http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpniel/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/terminal/view/head:/ubuntu_autopilot_tests/terminal/test_terminal.py but not sure how far to go into it. See if it was to test the profiles dialog its not like it changes anything i can test. Should I just leave it out for now?
[16:26] <balloons> DanChapman, one min and I'm done :-) I'll look then
[16:26] <DanChapman> no rush mate
[16:34] <balloons> DanChapman, alright, let's look
[16:35] <DanChapman> balloons, :-)
[16:35] <balloons> DanChapman, ahh, yea terminal is always a little interesting. My thoughts are to focus as much as possible on the terminal itself. Opening and closing tabs and windows, editing preferences, etc
[16:36] <balloons> it's really difficult because much of the terminal is visual. I think the basic command check it's horrible etheir as you want to make sure keyboard input and response works, but again, try to avoid testing the underlying binaries ;-)
[16:37] <balloons> whoops.. "it's horrible"? not sure what I was trying to say.. the basic command check is good, just avoid going too deep on it
[16:39] <DanChapman> balloons, yeah i just finished tabs. But its the preferences/profiles windows i'm not so sure about as I can change the settings change colour, make scrollback unlimited etc etc but there is not any way of testing that it has actually changed anything
[16:39] <DanChapman> I was going to leave the command side at whats at. Just a few simple ones
[16:39] <balloons> DanChapman, right.. that's the trouble with it being so visual
[16:39] <balloons> DanChapman, yea, the command side looks good as-is
[16:42] <DanChapman> balloons, so do I keep it simple just test that the dialogs load check window title to test the right dialog opens and not really go into whats in the dialog
[16:47] <balloons> DanChapman, hmm.. well, as we already know, we want this to run nicely in the lab :-) So, high-value reproducible tests is the way to go
[17:12] <dkessel> good evening
[17:17] <DanChapman> balloons, unable to select any of the dialogs anyway. It has no names or labels that it can select so have MP'd it as it is. Have you heard anything from Vasudevan about nautilus?
[17:17] <DanChapman> dkessel, evening
[17:18] <slickymaster> balloons: ping, can you waste 30 seconds?
[17:23] <slickymaster> DanChapman: Hi, Dan, do you have 30 secs for quick question?
[17:23] <DanChapman> slickymaster, hey :-) yeah sure
[17:24] <slickymaster> DanChapman, Thanks :) I want to put an absolute path in a manual test. Are there any specific tags for it?
[17:25] <DanChapman> ooo good question! And one i'm afraid I do not know. balloons ^^
[17:26] <slickymaster> DanChapman, no problem. I'll wait until is free to answer me. Thanks anyway Dan
[18:11] <slickymaster> DanChapman: got go, cy
[18:11] <DanChapman> slickymaster, see ya
[18:14] <WebbyIT> balloons, sorry for the delay, it's a busy week, here the MR -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1188716/+merge/177445
[18:16] <WebbyIT> balloons, only a small favor: in your last post on  The Orange Netbook, you write "Ricardo", is "Riccardo" :) I'm Italian, not Spanish ;)
[18:16] <balloons> DanChapman, ohh.. no I haven't heard from vasudevan at all.. not since his issue that we resolved
[18:16] <balloons> I'll try pinging him again
[18:16] <balloons> WebbyIT, ohh I'm sorry! You are right!
[18:17] <balloons> WebbyIT, scusa!
[18:17] <WebbyIT> balloons, np :) I'm going to dinner,we can talk about the test, if is necessary, later :D
[18:18] <balloons> dkessel, evening to you
[18:19]  * dkessel waves
[18:19] <balloons> WebbyIT, enough dinner! but it does look like there are a few fixes to do
[18:20] <balloons> WebbyIT, I meant enjoy dinner.. typos :-)
[19:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hi :)
[19:10] <balloons> Letozaf_, buongiorno :-)
[19:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, :-) it's buonasera now :)
[19:11] <balloons> come va?
[19:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, :-) See a new phrase to try
[19:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, bene
[19:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, see you're learning Italian :-)
[19:12] <balloons> I'll infer that to mean "good"? :-)
[19:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, sure, good
[19:12] <balloons> Letozaf_, hehe.. yes almost all the essentials
[19:12] <balloons> hello, how are you.. and one more.. where's the bathroom :-)
[19:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, dovè il bagno ?
[19:12] <balloons> with that you can do anything right?
[19:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, sure
[19:12] <balloons> bagno.. ahh yes..
[19:12] <balloons> anyways .. :-p
[19:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, I worked on the rssreader app autopilot test
[19:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, but I think I have a bug
[19:14] <Letozaf_> balloons, wanted to hear you first, maybe it's just work in progress and not a bug
[19:14] <WebbyIT> balloons, buonasera :) I have finish dinner, so we can talk ;) Ciao Letozaf_ :)
[19:14] <Letozaf_> hello WebbyIT
[19:15] <Letozaf_> how are you ?
[19:15] <Letozaf_> Letozaf_, must I talk to you about the rssreader app ?
[19:15] <WebbyIT> Letozaf_, fine, I'm tring to do some autopilot, but I have a lot to learn!
[19:15] <Letozaf_> balloons, now I know where you got your Italian from :D
[19:16] <WebbyIT> and have to learn also english :P
[19:16] <Letozaf_> WebbyIT, you're in the right place, then, there is lot to learn and have fun too
[19:16] <Letozaf_> WebbyIT, don't worry balloons knows Italian :p
[19:16] <balloons> Letozaf_, indeed.. poor Riccardo taught me to spell his name properly today :-)
[19:17] <balloons> Letozaf_, lololo.. si si!
[19:17] <WebbyIT> :D
[19:17] <Letozaf_> WebbyIT, maybe I can teach you some English, but got little time :P
[19:18] <balloons> ok so Letozaf_ what bug do you think you'd found?
[19:19] <WebbyIT> Letozaf_, it would be an honor ;) Enough for me that you correct any error when I write!
[19:19] <Letozaf_> balloons, after inserting a feed, for example http://www.canonical.com/rss.xml you select the checkbox so you can click on the next button
[19:20] <Letozaf_> balloons, after that you insert a topic, and that's it, you cannot do anything else but press previous button or
[19:20] <Letozaf_> balloons, well or nothing..
[19:20] <Letozaf_> balloons, suppose the topic should be selectable
[19:20] <balloons> Letozaf_, hmm.. ok, let me try and reproduce. But from what your saying, I agree. Sounds like a bug in the app :-)
[19:21] <Letozaf_> balloons, you get this output on terminal feed INSERT ID:  53
[19:21] <Letozaf_> file:///home/letozaf/autopilot-tests/ubuntu-rssreader-app/databasemodule_v2.js:57: TypeError: Cannot read property 'id' of undefined
[19:21] <Letozaf_> WebbyIT, well if I can  I will, but I can be a pain sometimes, ask my husband, when I correct his english :p
[19:22] <WebbyIT> Letozaf_, ahahha thanks :D
[19:22] <Letozaf_> WebbyIT, :)
[19:22] <balloons> Letozaf_, WebbyIT normally smartboyhw and knome correct my English. Neither speak it natively :-p I laugh that smartboyhw speaks better english, and he's from hong kong
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, another "bug" is that I cannot delete a topic, but the terminal output says its TODO
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, I say that the most important thing is to be understood
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, so as long as we understand each other :p
[19:24] <balloons> Letozaf_, ok so I'm on the screen that says add your new feeds to a topic
[19:24] <balloons> After I input something, there's no button to click
[19:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, there is a grey box on the left
[19:24] <balloons> hmm.. if I hit enter and then select it, I get the error as you say
[19:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes yes that's it
[19:25] <balloons> Letozaf_, I see several little bugs in here actually
[19:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes
[19:25] <balloons> just little UI things. .ok perfect
[19:26] <balloons> so let's start filing :-)
[19:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, what about deleting a topic ? it's TODO
[19:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, but I need to delete it for testing purposes
[19:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, :p
[19:26] <balloons> right.. it looks like that works, but i think the ui is a bit off also
[19:27] <balloons> click edit topic, then select toolbar again and select topic
[19:27] <balloons> then click and hold on the topic and select delete with feeds
[19:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, the delete with feed does not work
[19:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, already tried it
[19:27] <balloons> Letozaf_, lol so I see ;-)
[19:27] <balloons> right.. edit too
[19:27] <balloons> heh
[19:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, :p
[19:28] <Letozaf_> balloons, I wrote the part of the test that adds a new feed and now I'm stuck :P
[19:28] <balloons> right.. it looks like I can add a topic ok
[19:29] <balloons> and verify it exists
[19:29] <balloons> on the adding a feed thing, well for now hmm
[19:30] <balloons> oh.. I see.. I removed my feed and tried to add it back.. it blocks you completely
[19:30] <balloons> anyways, I can file bugs on everything we've seen. But I think you can do the add topic as it stands
[19:31] <Letozaf_> balloons, but once you've run the test once, you get an error as the feed is already there and I cannot remove it
[19:31] <balloons> Letozaf_, I was able to remove my feed.. I just can't add it back now :-)
[19:31] <Letozaf_> balloons, is there a way to delete the feed using the terminal or something like that ?
[19:31] <Letozaf_> balloons, how ?
[19:32] <Letozaf_> balloons, how did you remove it ?
[19:32] <balloons> Letozaf_, umm the apps use localstorage I wonder if there's an easy way to clear it
[19:35] <balloons> Letozaf_, I went into edit topics, then click and hold remove on the feed
[19:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, mmm let me see
[19:37] <Letozaf_> balloons, the funny thing is that I do not see the Canonical feed I added in edit topics, probably I had added it saturday today I updated and to sort of stuck in the middle
[19:38] <Letozaf_> balloons, sorry I meant I got sort of stuck with the canonical feed in but not visible...
[19:38] <Letozaf_> balloons, wounder if there is a way to reset them all
[19:38] <balloons> Letozaf_, after deleting the canonical feed mine reset
[19:38] <balloons> I wonder what the easy way to kill localstorage would be
[19:39]  * Letozaf_ is browsing the rssreader direcotry to find out
[19:41] <balloons> mhall119, do you know where the core apps typically have there localstorage? I can't remember and want to wipe the app's localstorage
[19:42] <balloons> so WebbyIT for whenever your back again.. The tree seems to have conflicts in it https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1188716/+merge/177445
[19:42] <mhall119> balloons: ~/.local/share/Qt\ Project/QtQmlViewer/QML/OfflineStorage/Databases/
[19:43] <balloons> ty mhall119
[19:43] <balloons> Letozaf_, ^^
[19:43] <balloons> :-) I should note that somewhere
[19:43] <Letozaf_> balloons, mhall119 cool thanks
[19:44] <balloons> this might fix some of our bugs too
[19:45] <balloons> nah, we still can't choose the topic
[19:45] <Letozaf_> balloons, :)
[19:45] <balloons> Letozaf_, anyways I'll start filing
[19:46] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I will carry on with the test, if you do not need help filing...
[19:46] <balloons> Letozaf_, yep, sounds like a plan
[19:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, :)
[19:47] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+bug/1203528
[19:49] <Letozaf_> balloons, cool that was quick :)
[19:51] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+bug/1206248
[19:52] <knome> balloons, i saw somebody had pinged me, but d'oh, it was just something unrelated ;)
[19:52] <balloons> knome, sorry!
[19:52] <knome> haha np
[19:52] <knome> i'm just kidding :)
[19:52] <elfy> I get that all the time
[19:52] <balloons> I should have typed out Pasi
[19:52] <knome> what's up?
[19:52] <balloons> I usually do that to refer to you without pinging you :-)
[19:52] <knome> balloons, that highlights me too...
[19:52] <balloons> BAH!
[19:52] <balloons> you went the extra mile!
[19:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, but when you are on the topics page and you click on the topic you just added don't you get this messge on terminal:CLICKED 4 Canonical
[19:53] <Letozaf_> feed INSERT ID:  5
[19:53] <Letozaf_> file:///home/letozaf/autopilot-tests/ubuntu-rssreader-app/databasemodule_v2.js:57: TypeError: Cannot read property 'id' of undefined
[19:53] <balloons> Letozaf_, I think those 2 bugs cover it. But tell me if not
[19:53] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes, I get that exact error. They'll have to fix the code
[19:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok fine
[19:53] <knome> balloons, sure... not too much that gets me a highlight in english channels, and i'm on one finnish channel only, where i want those highlights... :)
[19:53]  * Letozaf_ is reading the bugs
[19:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes I think they are fine, should I confirm them ?
[19:54] <balloons> Letozaf_, so fo now, you can add and remove a topic I think as a test
[19:55] <balloons> Letozaf_, sure confirm away
[19:55] <balloons> the one is confirmed already
[19:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[19:55] <balloons> speaking of bugs.. elopio are you about?
[19:57] <knome> balloons, you consider e lopio a bug?
[19:58] <balloons> knome, not at all.. But I've got one for him :-)
[19:58] <knome> hehe
[19:59] <balloons> ok well elopio whenever you do read this; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1206251
[20:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, I'm still quite confused about one thing on adding a feed, once added, you can either click on next, but if i click on a topic the feed is not added to that topic or click cancel, but my feed, even if clicked is not added, how did you add yours ?
[20:04] <balloons> Letozaf_, I can't add a feed.. as you said, it doesn't work
[20:05] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh! fine, thought you added it :p
[20:05] <balloons> Letozaf_, no matter what i do on the topic screen after selecting my feed it won't be added
[20:05] <balloons> but I can do this
[20:05] <Letozaf_> balloons, :) then WebbyIT want's me to teach him english :P
[20:05] <balloons> 'edit topics' -> 'topics' -> 'add'
[20:05] <balloons> type name, add topic
[20:05] <balloons> it should appear
[20:06] <balloons> I can't delete it yet, but adding does work :-)
[20:06] <balloons> so that piece of the test should be doable as-is
[20:07] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes the topic appears but the feed ?
[20:07] <Letozaf_> balloons, also you can't get the feed in, right ?
[20:08] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes, that will only add a topic. Which then appears on the topic page
[20:08] <balloons> I can't do anything else with the topic
[20:09] <Letozaf_> balloons, fine that's just what happens to me too
[20:09] <balloons> I can also move feeds around between topics, but it's quite weird.
[20:09] <balloons> I wouldn't add a test for it yet
[20:09] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes ok
[20:09] <Letozaf_> balloons, but maybe if you put a feed in the wrong topic then you can  move it to the right one
[20:18] <Noskcaj> I found three bugs on the weekend, but my internet is too slow to get a VM to report them from. Can someone check the bottom of the language select menu, The OEM-setup's lack of slideshow, and the top-left icon changes half-way through the End-user setup.
[20:20] <Noskcaj> All where found in a lubuntu OEM install
[20:20] <balloons> Noskcaj, hmm
[20:20] <balloons> I think my machine needs a reboot.. brb
[20:20] <knome> wondering if the OEM installation should have the slideshow
[20:21] <elfy> I'd not be wanting one
[20:24] <Noskcaj> knome, I'm meaning in the end-user setup. But it does raise the question of why OEMs want to see it.
[20:34] <Letozaf_> balloons, lol
[20:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, I found how you remove a topic
[20:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, just swipe it to the right or to the left :P
[20:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, lol
[20:36] <Letozaf_> balloons, I mean from the topics page
[20:38] <balloons> Letozaf_, OHH!
[20:38] <Letozaf_> balloons, cool :P
[20:38] <balloons> sweet.. so the other delete is deleting with the feed too.. right makes sense
[20:39] <balloons> ok, so you can add and delete a feed :-)
[20:39] <balloons> err
[20:39] <balloons> add and delete a topic!
[20:39] <balloons> not a feed :-)
[20:39] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes
[20:39]  * knome slaps balloons 
[20:39] <Letozaf_> balloons, the add topic has already been done :P
[20:39] <knome> get a grip
[20:42] <Letozaf_> balloons, ah! I have a sudoku app merge proposal hanging...
[20:49] <Letozaf_> balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/sudoku-app/settingsTab/+merge/176027
[20:52] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh!
[20:52] <Letozaf_> balloons, it's for the settings tab, it's pending
[20:53] <balloons> Letozaf_, indeed you do!
[20:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, :D
[20:53] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh more conflicts
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, yep
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, looks like I have feeling with conflicts :P
[20:57] <balloons> the trouble is because of how it merges it's hard.. anyways, let's have a look
[20:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, thanks
[21:00] <balloons> ok so 2 conflicts found :-)
[21:08] <balloons> 1 down :-)
[21:08] <Letozaf_> balloons, good
[21:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, its getting late here, can I come back tomorrow evening so you let me know about the last conflict ?
[21:10] <balloons> Letozaf_, it resolved fine too
[21:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, cool so it works fine!
[21:10] <balloons> Letozaf_, enjoy your evening.. I'll review things now
[21:10] <balloons> no more conflicts :-)
[21:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, thanks :D
[21:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, good night
[21:16] <slickymaster> good evening all
[21:17] <slickymaster> Noskcaj, ping. Can you spare 30 seconds?
[21:18] <Noskcaj> slickymaster, pong. sure
[21:18] <knome> counting.
[21:18] <Noskcaj> *facepalm*
[21:18] <knome> you're out of time
[21:19] <slickymaster> Noskcaj, I need to put an absolute path in Orage manual test. Do I use <code> </code> tags or is there a specific tag?
[21:19] <knome> slickymaster, if the path is something like /var/log, i don't think you need the tag
[21:20] <Noskcaj> You don't need to put tags in unless it's a command IIRC. balloons is the one to ask for this stuff
[21:20] <knome> if it's a longer one, you can use <code> if you want it to pop up
[21:20] <knome> i believe the goal is legibility
[21:20] <slickymaster> knome, actually is /usr/share/orage/sounds
[21:20]  * knome shrugs
[21:21] <knome> does the user need to type it, or just navigate there with a file manager or so?
[21:21] <balloons> slickymaster, evening
[21:21] <slickymaster> knome, just to navigate into
[21:21] <slickymaster> balloons, hi. evening :)
[21:21] <knome> slickymaster, then i'd probably leave it without
[21:21] <slickymaster> balloons, speaking of the devil
[21:21] <balloons> slickymaster, knome and Noskcaj can speak well on this topic. :-0
[21:22] <balloons> it's all about readability
[21:22] <balloons> Noskcaj, btw, did you file on those 3 bugs? I will confirm / deconfirm them
[21:22] <slickymaster> balloons, alright, I'll go without the tags since it's nothing a user will have to type
[21:23] <Noskcaj> balloons, I want a lubuntu install to file them, but my internet is too slow to zsync them
[21:23] <slickymaster> balloons, knome, Noskcaj, thamk you guys
[21:23] <Noskcaj> np