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jrib^Mike: also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh#function00:00
MathCubes_@Dr_willis I tr to re wight it it says it is write-protected,00:00
Dr_willis^Mike,  id just make a shells script called 'e' in the bin dir.00:00
Dr_willisMathCubes_,  try to write to it with what exactly?00:00
jrib^Mike: if you need bashisms then either check that you're in bash (see /etc/profile for an example of how) or use /etc/bash.bashrc00:01
MathCubes_I try to rewight all the bits that has a 1 into00:01
MathCubes_000:01
Dr_willisMathCubes_,  try to rewrite with WHAT APP?00:02
MathCubes_k3b and the terminal00:02
Dr_willisbrassero has a 'blank the cd' item in its menu00:03
Dr_willisdo NOT mount the disk befor trying to blank it.00:03
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning00:05
Dr_willisTo reuse a rewritable CD or DVD you first need to 'blank' the disk. This erases the old data and prepares the disk for new data.00:05
Dr_willis    wodim -vv dev=/dev/cdrw blank=all00:05
MathCubes_I tried that00:05
^Mikejrib: Thanks for the tip. Looks like another bashism is the word "function"00:05
humo0915Can anyone help me please, after my laptod lid is opened the screen stays black with no response at all, it only happens when lid is closed and then opened00:05
Dr_willishttp://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/one-click-erase-of-cd-rw-dvd-rw-rewritable-discs-in-ubuntu/00:06
MathCubes_I trI did it00:06
MathCubes_thank you and bye00:06
Dr_willishumo0915,  so if you close it and then never open it - it dosent stay black? or am i confused here as to that last bit.00:07
AtlantisHello!00:11
curatrixHi00:11
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humo0915sorry english is not my native language, What I meaned is that it doesnt happen when you leave the laptop open for a long time and it goes to sleep00:12
AtlantisOne, second. Did my colour change?00:12
AtlantisNope, it didn't..00:12
allan_Oi00:13
AtlantisFUSRODAU00:13
Dr_willisAtlantis,  why would you think the color would change?00:13
* curatrix grabs Atlantis by the arm and calls out "found you"00:13
AtlantisBecuause I thought I'd changed it in settings...00:13
Dr_willishumo0915,  so you mean to say the laptop 'crashes' when you close the lid - instead of suspending?00:13
Dr_willisAtlantis,  irc dosent really work that way00:13
AtlantisOkay....00:14
Dr_willisMY client uses the colors I tell it to. :)  i dont see what you set.00:14
* Dr_willis colors Atlantis hot puce.00:14
Atlantiscuratrix... Ummm, hi!00:14
majdimy opt folder is missing after the latest update to ubuntu 12.04, anyone with this problem?00:15
AtlantisWhat is hot puce?00:15
Dr_willisa light red color. would you perfer lime green?00:15
curatrixmajdi: Are you sure that you are looking in /    ?00:16
AtlantisMaybe it's becuase I'm on Xchat (an aplication version) but I don't see a difference...00:16
AtlantisBut, I like the light red!00:16
Dr_willisAtlantis,  im not even sure what you are expecting. Xchat has color themes and settings that you would see on your end. we dont see what colors you set your client to use00:16
allan_no problem dual booting?00:16
Dr_willisallan_,  err.. No. none here.00:17
AtlantisOkay...00:17
allan_Dr_willis windows 8 and ubuntu ?00:17
allan_have a problem?00:17
Dr_willisallan_,  i dont use windows 8 - others in here have done it befor.00:17
majdi@ curatrix, yes did a search, it gone, I've never experienced this before, very strange, but it broke some of my apps00:18
allan_Willis you speak portuguese?00:18
curatrixmajdi: To be honest. The first thing that comes to mind is a hardware failure (most likely in the HDD)00:18
wilee-nileeallan_, You read the uefi wiki?00:19
AtlantisHello everyone!00:19
BabyCatsdfa\00:19
allan_No00:19
AtlantisOne second...00:19
majdicuratrix: everything else is running OK00:20
wilee-nilee!uefi | allan_00:20
ubottuallan_: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:20
AtlantisI have no idea what I'm doing...00:20
allan_Thanks00:20
wilee-nileeallan_, I am assuming this is a oem W8 if so it is a uefi gpt setup00:20
dalrogHi all. How do I prevent drive device names from changing? If I reboot with phone plugged into USB, my external HD changes from /dev/sdb to /dev/sde. Can these be set to be permanent somehow? Thanks.00:22
allan_I'm speak portuguese =l00:22
curatrixmajdi: If you dont mind ....Can we double check that /opt is missing?  Please open the file manager and click on file system on the left.00:23
majdicuratrix: done that, its not there00:24
curatrixmajdi: Does firefox/chromium work?00:25
Dr_willisdalrog,  they change. thats the reason that the uuid is normally used in /etc/fstab00:26
Dr_willisdalrog,  if the device/filesysem has a label it should auto mount to /media/whatever/label name  and stay that way00:27
majdicuratrix: yes, I did a sudo find / -name 'opt' -type d, and got /var/opt, /etc/opt. but contents of these opt folders are different than my root opt or /opt folder00:27
Dr_willis!uuid00:27
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)00:27
mojtabaHi, Does anybody know what is the difference between libreoffice and openofice?00:28
mojtaba*openoffice?00:28
Dr_willismojtaba,  openoffice sort of got killed/ruined and became libreoffice00:28
dalrogDr_willis: the drives are mounted with truecrypt later so they don't have any mount points in fstab00:29
mojtabaDr_willis: Thanks00:29
K1rkmojtaba, personally I prefer LibreOffice.00:29
K1rkmojtaba, LibreOffice is basically a fork of OpenOffice, from the original developers.00:29
K1rkmojtaba, OpenOffice is now "owned" by the Apache Software Foundation.00:29
majdicuratrix: yes, both firefox and chrom work00:31
curatrixmajdi:  Not many things use the /opt directory (google earth is one of the few). Is google earth installed?00:32
majdicuratrix: don’t have google earth installed, but I had prezi installed and its not working now, also had a samsung printer driver, both using the opt folder and they both not working now00:34
mojtabaI have made a backup using ubuntu's default backup system (deja du, or whatever), How can I ensure the backup has been made and is ok?00:35
majdicuratrix: not sure what has caused this? any way of finding out? can i see what the last backup did to my files?00:36
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resultant_fierceI have a question on keyboard configuration, if anyone is an expert on that00:38
Dr_willisjust ask the question and see who answers resultant_fierce . also check askubuntu.com00:39
resultant_fiercethanks.00:39
curatrixmajdi: opt is storage for software add-ons. I  am guessing that the upgrade has wiped it to ensure that the system has no compatibility issues.  If you backed up prior to the upgrade you should be able to retrieve the lost folder, but I dont think anything in there will work wth the new system.00:39
Dr_willisi cant recall ever seeing or hearing of the apt package maanger touching stuff in /opt/00:40
Dr_willisits possible some other updates broke software that is in /opt/ but i wouldent think apt would remove anything from it.00:40
curatrixmajdi: It will require reinstalling prezi and anything you were using00:41
fictionalhippoHello, ia there anyone online that can help me with a wireless adapter issue?00:41
curatrixDr_willis: Neither have I. Usually it is the opposite with linux ......you end up with a load of crud that cant be used00:41
resultant_fierceI'm running gnome shell, and I have the super key configured to launch the activities overview - by default.  For emacs, I've reconfigured capslock to be the control.  I'd like to use the right alt-key as the meta key.  Under the keyboard options I can set up the alt keys to be meta - under "Alt and Meta are on alt-keys", but this doesn't work in a terminal window.  If I attempt to hit alt+v for meta+v, I instead end up in the 'V00:42
fictionalhippoDoes anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?00:43
fictionalhippoDoes anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?00:44
goddardmy laptop shuts down when playing games00:44
majdiDr_willis: there is no opt folder after the update00:44
Dr_willismajdi,  outout of ls -ld /opt   shows what?00:45
majdiDr_willis: No such file or directory00:46
resultant_fiercegoddard: is it just a specific game?00:46
majdiDr_willis: is there a way I can check if the update manager removed the opt folder?00:47
fictionalhippoDoes anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?00:47
Dr_willismajdi,   not that i know of.. apt shouldent be removeing directories like that00:50
majdiDr_willis: any way to check if it was deleted?00:51
curatrixmajdi: try looking in /var/log/00:51
TiwehOk will try.00:52
curatrixmajdi: sorry   /var/log/at00:53
Dr_willis /var/log/apt  ;)00:53
curatrix /var/log/apt00:53
curatrixlol ty Dr00:53
Dr_willislook in /lost+found also  ;P00:53
Dr_willisi would think it more likely the fs got currupted. and fscking moved /opt/ then apt moveing it.00:54
TiwehMy ubuntu non pes install is bootin to tty. No GUi.00:55
Tiwehpae00:55
wilee-nileeDr_willis, I could not for the life of me figure out that ./install in  root on that tar, lol00:57
amyassinmy laptop has temperature problem since I installed Raring.. Does anyone got that?00:58
wilee-nileeno biggie. ;)00:58
fictionalhippoCan someone please help me with a wireless adapter issue?00:59
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bazhang!wifi | fictionalhippo have a read first00:59
ubottufictionalhippo have a read first: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:59
equusfictionalhippo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper01:00
amyassinI can't find something about temperature problem in Raring01:00
majdiDr_wills: can i check a log for fscking?01:01
Dr_williswilee-nilee,  install what ./install? if the tar extracts and makes a  ~/theapp2.0/theappinstaller   you would cd theapp2.0 then ./theappinstaller01:01
Dr_willismajdi,  i dont even know if fsck keeps a log.01:01
Dr_willismajdi,  if fsck moved stuff it would be in /lost+found01:01
wilee-nileeDr_willis, There is a read, and it says ./install run as root, and there is a text called install, here is the web info, all a bit beyond my skills. http://www.firetrust.com/en/products/mailwasher-enterprise-server/support/linux-installation-instructions#installation01:03
majdiDr_willis: nothing in /lost+found and nothing showing in /var/log/apt that might have caused this01:03
Dr_williswilee-nilee,  so you just do a 'cd wheevertheinstallfileisat'  then 'sudo ./install'01:03
Dr_williscd mwes-xxxx   (replace xxx with the right numbers)   then    sudo ./install01:04
majdiDr_willis: any way to detect if the fs is corrupted?01:05
Dr_willismajdi,  boot live cd, and run fsck on it  would check it01:05
majdiDr_willis: will do, thanks a lot01:06
majdicuratrix: thank you to01:06
majdiDr_willis: can I just create the opt folder if no fix for this?01:07
curatrixmajdi: np. Sorry I couldnt have been more help. :)01:07
Dr_willismajdi,  reinstall your apps if you want to use them.   i dont see what making a empty /opt/ directory will help. :)   assuming cd /opt/  shows its truely not there.01:07
Dr_williscd /opt   does give back 'file not found'  ?01:08
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amyassinSo I'm guessing nobody had such a problem...01:09
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JoshMcCulloughhey all01:09
majdiDr_willis:  cd /opt01:09
majdibash: cd: /opt: No such file or directory01:09
JoshMcCulloughwhats a good webcam server?01:09
Dr_willisamyassin,  askubuntu.com has a great many people with fan and overheating issues in various releases.01:09
majdithank you all01:11
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RobertBColtonguys i need help01:16
RobertBColtoni installed virtualbox01:16
RobertBColtonand it fuckin crashed my network driver01:16
RobertBColtonidk wtf is wrong01:16
amyassinDr_willis: thanks.. I'll check 'em01:16
RobertBColtonthe internet was workign fine for it and the host01:16
RobertBColtonthen i shut off virutalbox and restarted01:16
RobertBColtonnothing01:16
RobertBColtonnada01:17
RobertBColtonzilch my fuckin internet wont work01:17
RobertBColtonsomeone pls help ~01:17
wilee-nilee!language | RobertBColton01:18
ubottuRobertBColton: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.01:18
RobertBColtonhelp !01:18
bazhangRobertBColton, be patient01:19
wilee-nileeDr_willis, Thanks I git the tar installed it was a beta so was not running right so just removed it.01:19
RobertBColtonthis is rediculous though01:20
RobertBColtoninstalling virtualbox should not be so dangerous as to fux my network01:20
bazhangRobertBColton, stop the cursing01:20
thinclientRobertColton: try this in terminal:  sudo dhclient eth001:20
RobertBColtonthinclient: file exists.01:21
thinclientdid it revive your network?  (ps that was a zero in eth0).01:22
RobertBColtonthinclient: no it did not that was all it said01:22
RobertBColtonRTNETLINKI answers: File exists01:22
RobertBColtonthinclient: so now what?01:23
thinclientRoberBColton: not sure sorry. Hopefully someone here has a solution.01:24
thinclientRobertBColton:  Did you install virtualbox from apt-get or elsewhere?01:25
RobertBColtonthinclient: ubuntu software center01:25
wilee-nileeRobertBColton, You looked in settings-network-advanced and the cable connected is ticked?01:26
CodeWarI installed the latest NVIDIA driver and am getting butt kicked since then. Anyways, uninstalled it and am back to the nvidia-current on Ubuntu. But it appears libGL.so.1 has disappeared. Is there a way for me to install a 64bit version of this file?01:27
CodeWarthe NVIDIA uninstaller took it out and now Unity does not work01:27
RobertBColtonwilee-nilee: yes i can ping google.com from terminal with only 4% packet loss01:28
RobertBColtonCodeWar: probably need to reinstall the open source drivers :P01:29
thetinyjesusRobertBColton, hey im looking into the issue check this out01:35
wilee-nileeRobertBColton, I always install virtualbox from them and add the extension on that page  and add my self to the users, and it works fine, not sure if the version in the software center is different, I also install the guest additions.01:35
thetinyjesusin sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules01:36
thetinyjesusdo you have 2 lines almost exactly the same with NAME="eth0"01:36
wilee-nileeRobertBColton, There is #vbox as well for more help.01:38
thetinyjesusRobertBColton,  https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=774901:38
thetinyjesusits older but it seems that VB may have setup a different MAC address01:39
mangomaniaI'm trying to install 12.04 (single boot) on a Macbook 3,1 using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation . It says to select "msdos" for the partition table, but it says GPT is required for EFI just a few sentences before that. Which one do I need?01:39
fictionalhippoOk, I've run the lsusb command and it tells me Bus 001 Device 003: ID 050d:110a Belkin components. This is a wireless adapter for network and i can't seem to get it working. Anyone know info about it?01:43
RobertBColtonu know01:43
RobertBColtoni've had it01:43
RobertBColtonnothing on linux works right01:43
RobertBColtonim just going back to windows01:43
FloodBot1RobertBColton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:43
RobertBColtoni was able to use ubuntu fine for several months01:43
thetinyjesushave fun, guess you didnt bother to read what we sent you01:43
RobertBColtonbut its canonical, and their udpates, seriously freakin deadly01:43
RobertBColtoni cant put up with this crap01:43
bazhangRobertBColton, thats enough01:43
RobertBColtonthetinyjesus: even you do fix this, it doesn't matter, canonical brain dead swill just release more broken updates01:44
RobertBColtonthis is the gazillionth time something has gone wrong from updates01:44
thetinyjesuspretty strange because i've never had my computer break from an update, only me messing something up01:44
fictionalhippoI did read what you sent me. I'm just providing more information so possibly someone out there could possibly put it in more a more easier term to understand.01:44
thetinyjesusfictionalhippo, wasn't to you man, was to robert01:45
fictionalhippoOh may bad thetinyjesus, came back at the wrong time i guess.01:46
thetinyjesusfictionalhippo, have you tried googling your specific wireless card ?01:46
equusfictionalhippo,    lspci                      will probably  show you that your   card is a broadcom chip01:48
thetinyjesuswhat exact wireless card is it?01:52
iShotzAnyone know where I can get AMD drivers for Xubuntu?01:56
danny4wayHi. I have an error. I can't software update. Whenever I use update manager, it just started to load and shows error saying "failed to download repository information" and below that it says "Check your internet connection01:56
danny4wayPlus I have my internet connection.01:58
OerHeksdanny4way, what ubuntu version ?01:58
danny4way13.0401:59
danny4wayI've tried many things. I tried to change server from Untied States to Main Server. It doesn't work.01:59
danny4wayI tried best server too. IT still doesn't work.01:59
thetinyjesusdid you try going to select best server in that menu?01:59
OerHeksdanny4way, try changing the mirror01:59
danny4wayCan you tell me how to change mirror?02:00
OerHeksopen softwarecenter > top panel > edit > sources02:01
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Guest65691hi everyone, I'm having an issue installing a usb wireless adapter on my desktop. It is running ubuntu 12.04 LTS.02:03
danny4wayOerHeks, now which mirror do you want me to choose?02:04
danny4wayBecause I've tried everything.02:04
wilee-nileeGuest65691, Can you run lsusb and identify it02:04
Guest65691yes I can02:04
Guest65691I have the device ID and all02:05
Guest65691I found a driver online and used ndiswrapper to install it but got an error in the install02:05
wilee-nileetell the channel not me02:05
Guest65691sorry02:05
wilee-nileeGuest65691, Any and all details including errors go a long way'02:05
Guest65691how do I tell the channel haha I'm new to irc02:06
wilee-nileeGuest65691, I meant in general tell the channel unless you use my nick I assume you telling the channel.02:06
OerHeksdanny4way, close softwarecenter/sources, open terminal and run " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade " # and use paste.ubuntu.com for the output please02:07
wilee-nileeGuest65691, Just staing the info means to the channel, if someone answers use there nick when answering.02:07
taotaoHello02:07
wilee-nileestating02:07
Guest65691ah, i understand02:07
wilee-nileecool. ;)02:07
Guest65691wilee-nilee, when I run "sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmn43xx64.inf", it outputs "couldn't find SourceDiskFiles section - continuing anyway..."02:08
danny4wayOerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923786/02:09
wilee-nileeGuest65691, What I left out here was I know very little about that, but know that details work for help.02:10
wilee-nilee!broadcom | Guest65691 here is a wiki02:11
ubottuGuest65691 here is a wiki: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:11
OerHeksdanny4way, i see, https://launchpad.net/~dr3mro/+archive/nautilus-actions-extra has no raring packages, remove that ppa and update will run fine02:11
Guest65691thanks everyone!02:11
Guest65691I'll check it out02:11
danny4wayAnd how do i remove that ppa?02:11
OerHeks!ppa-purge02:12
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html02:12
danny4wayPlease explain to me in details because I just install ubuntu on my laptop a few months ago.02:12
danny4wayThank you.02:12
OerHeksor just disable it in sources, but then you will keep those old files.02:12
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OerHeksas it never had packages, ppa purge will be safe02:13
danny4wayPlease give me a minute. Thank you.02:14
OerHeksdanny there seems to be an active ppa for those nautilus actions > https://launchpad.net/~nae-team/+archive/ppa02:14
danny4wayInstalling command doesn't work.02:15
OerHekssudo ppa-purge ppa:dr3mro/nautilus-actions-extra02:16
danny4wayOh. I thought I can install using command "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge"02:18
danny4waySo I did.02:18
danny4wayAnd the command you just gave me doesn't work.02:18
OerHeksppa-purge is installed default, not?02:19
danny4wayI don't know.02:19
danny4wayBut when i type in your command you just gave me, this is what i got.02:20
danny4wayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5923809/02:20
sokky_hello all, any ecrypt pros here?02:21
varunendraOerHeks, on my 12.04, ppa-purge is not installed by default. Interesting program by the way :)02:21
OerHeksvarunendra, ah i see, that makes it a little harder02:22
varunendraOerHeks, I just glanced at my IRC client, but can't they just use "apt-get install --print-uris ppa-purge" to get the manual download links to the required packages?02:23
varunendraso they can install it manually if the normal apt operations are problematic..02:24
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danny4wayOerHeks, is there any other solution?02:24
danny4wayThe command isn't working. And I can't remove ppa. Well, I mean I might be able to but I don't know how. Please instruct me.02:25
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danny4wayI am very new to ubuntu and it's very unlike like windows.02:25
varunendraOerHeks, just curious, does this program also has the option to re-enable the PPAs?02:25
OerHeksas alternative solution, disable that ppa in software sources, just unmark, not remove, and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade # and then install ppa-purge02:26
wilee-nileeI would have them run a apt-get update a broken package maybe02:26
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OerHeksrenenable the ppaś  again, and you can fully remove, but hey, that ppa had never packages, so i think removing the list only works too02:27
OerHeksppa packages do not survive upgrade, afaik02:27
danny4wayYeah. Since I don't know about Ubuntu, I just have to listen whatever you have to say.02:27
wilee-nileedanny4way, Can you run sud apt-get update and pastebin the results.02:28
wilee-nileesudo*02:28
danny4wayno I can't02:28
danny4wayIt just shows errors.02:28
wilee-nileedanny4way, I want to swe the eroors02:28
wilee-nileesee*02:29
danny4wayOkay. HOld on.02:29
OerHekshe pasted it a while back02:30
danny4wayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5923843/02:30
danny4wayHere02:30
sendaljepitfirewall02:31
wilee-nileedanny4way, Run gksudo nautilus your in root now be careful go to computer etc/apt/sources.list.d open it and delete those ppa 's then run a upadate again02:34
wilee-nileeclose all that before running the update02:34
danny4waywilee-nilee, what do you mean by run gksudo nautilus?02:35
wilee-nileedanny4way, In the terminal it will open your root so you can delete thise ppa's\02:35
nmittalhello.. ppl.. just installed ubuntu 13.04.. its using the default nouveu driver for graphics.. how can i switch it to the intel driver which also seems to be installed02:36
wilee-nileedanny4way, When someone says run here it means in a terminal, unless they say where.02:36
nmittali have this onboard vga chip "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)"02:36
danny4waywilee-nilee, should i install gksudo?02:37
danny4wayIt says gksudo is currently not installed. you can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gksu02:37
wilee-nileedanny4way, I guess so I forgot that needed to be installed, you will actually see only a put in trash rather than delete I forgot I set my system to bypass trash. However as suggested by the others you can remove theses from another place or untick them.02:39
wilee-nileedanny4way, i CAN GET YOU THERE IT MAY BE EASIER.02:39
danny4wayOkay. So I just go to computer then etc then apt then sources.list.d02:39
wilee-nileeopps sorry for the caps02:39
danny4wayThat's okay02:40
danny4wayAnd i See two files inside sources.list.d02:40
wilee-nileedanny4way, Cool in that atre the text files you can just open them and put a # at the front of the http02:40
wilee-nileeare*02:40
danny4waywhich one should I open?02:41
danny4wayThere are two files.02:41
danny4wayor should I open both?02:41
wilee-nileedanny4way, Just open the text and put a # in front of the text there, open the ones I think they are both the same except for 32 bit and 64 bit.02:41
Guest65691wilee-nilee and ubottu, thanks for the help! Your articles helped me. I have internet on my desktop. Have a great night02:42
wilee-nileeafter the # hit the save and close them.02:42
HypnotiXhello, i am trying to upgrade ubuntu to 13.04 and i get this error: the attempt to mount a file system with type swap in SCS12 (0,0,0), patition 6 sdb at none failed.02:42
wilee-nileeGuest65691, cool.02:42
danny4waythey already have # in front of them by itself02:42
Dr_willisHypnotiX,  perhaps you have an invalid swap partion defined in /etc/fstab02:43
reisioHypnotiX: it's normal attempting such a thing should fail, but not that it should be attempted in the first place02:43
wilee-nileedanny4way, take a screenshot of that02:43
Guest65691nick ThePoppyMan02:43
Guest65691fa02:43
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wilee-nilee!imagebin | danny4way02:43
ubottudanny4way: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.02:43
HypnotiXreisio: what should i do then02:43
Dr_willisHypnotiX,  you dont really mount swap partitions anyway.  so that errro/message could be just a red herring.02:43
reisioHypnotiX: figure out why it's trying to mount a swap partition02:43
amyassinI'm new here, is ubottu a human or a bot?02:43
HypnotiXi want to keep windows 7 also02:44
Dr_willisuBOTu02:44
Dr_willis!bot02:44
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots02:44
reisioamyassin: the most annoying bot ever02:44
wilee-nileelol02:44
danny4waywilee-nilee, Okay02:44
ThePoppyManyerp02:44
amyassinlol cool02:44
HypnotiXreisio: im a linux noob i dont really know how to find that out :)02:44
HypnotiXDr_willis: so i should just ignore it02:45
Dr_willisHypnotiX,  is the tool failing to work? or just spitting out a message and going on?02:45
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reisioubottu: prove to the channel that you are annoying02:46
ubottureisio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:46
reisiothanks pal02:46
WoofcatIs there a channel for ubuntu edge discussion?02:46
HypnotiXDr_willis: i will findout right now :)02:46
reisioWoofcat: it's -touch I believe02:47
Dr_willis!edge02:47
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch02:47
danny4waywilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/26585602:47
reisioWoofcat: /msg alis list *buntu*02:47
danny4wayhere is the screenshot of the first file.02:47
WoofcatThanks reisio02:47
HypnotiXso is 13.04 stable enough yet?02:48
wilee-nileedanny4way, Cool if they both have the # and you are still getting those errors on a update  we can see if you have those PPA's in the regular sources.list02:48
Dr_willisHypnotiX,  depends on the details.. stable enough for what? i have no issues with 13.0402:48
danny4wayWait. No02:49
danny4wayOnly first file has # in the front02:49
danny4waySecond file which ends with .save doesn't have # in the front.02:49
HypnotiXwell for example i installed 12.04 yesterday and my video drivers werent working properly, my max resolution was set to 102402:49
Dr_willisvideo card/driver issues can be very dependent on the exact version of the drivers, and kernel. and xorg.02:49
wilee-nileedanny4way, Cool put the # in the other hit save close all that the terminal last and run the sudo apt-get update and look for errors.02:49
danny4wayAnd When i tried to add # in the front, it says save as, So I tried but it says its read only02:49
wilee-nileedanny4way, You opened both from the same pathway02:50
wilee-nileedanny4way, Ah one is a save, I would just send both to trash, very small data no biggie.02:51
danny4wayBut I can't save it now. The other one that ends with .save, when i try to save with # in the front, it tells me to replace it.02:51
HypnotiXDr_willis: the installer doesnt seem to be moving, it says removing conflicting operating system files and no progress02:51
Dr_willisHypnotiX,  i rarely upgrade. i find clean installs faster these days02:52
danny4wayAnd when i click on replace, it says "Could not save the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/...ns-extra-raring.list.save.02:52
HypnotiXalright ill try that02:52
danny4wayAnd it says under that "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.02:52
wilee-nileedanny4way, Just close that text with no save and right click both and send to trash, close the folder and the popup then the terminal and open another and run sudo apt-get update02:53
danny4waywilee-nilee, you want me to send both of those files into trash?02:53
wilee-nileedanny4way, Yes.02:53
wilee-nileeroot trash no biggie they are tiny02:53
danny4wayOh okay.  I will try it.02:53
wilee-nileenot the most elegant fix, but in this circumstance it works.02:54
danny4wayIt won't let me send to trash02:54
savagejenWell installing Mir has magically made my system super slow02:54
savagejeneither that or the keyboard02:55
speedhai02:55
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wilee-nileedanny4way, So if you close al that and then the terminal and run a update again in a new terminal see if you still see the errors on that ppa.02:55
wilee-nileesavagejen, Had to be a PPA and not supported02:56
thinclientKnow a tiny browser that supports flash and javascript?02:56
thinclientand i mean tiny.02:56
Dr_willisa tiny browser to run huge bloated flash. ;)02:56
Dr_willismidori perhaps.02:57
RaveYodaHey guys, I need to know the group name for mounting devices such as usbs, cds, dvds, etc. My user can't mount stuff normally02:57
danny4wayFinal sentence says "reading package lists ... Done02:57
danny4wayIt seems like it's okay now.02:57
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savagejenwilee-nilee, I used this guide02:57
savagejenhttp://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/02:57
Dr_willismir is very much in testing. im not suprised it would be slow.02:58
wilee-nileedanny4way, Cool, it was hard to tell from here if you had shut off the ppa in another place, at least for me with so many posts.02:58
wilee-nileedanny4way, The last update you showed showed those still there.02:59
danny4wayI really don't understand what caused this.02:59
danny4wayAnd it's not working again.02:59
wilee-nileedanny4way, post all the text in a pastebin02:59
wilee-nileewilee-nilee, and post cat /etc/apt/sources.list as well.03:00
sp2is there a simple usenet app for pure text, no GUI?03:00
danny4wayhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5923904/03:00
danny4wayI actually want to run this command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923906/03:01
danny4wayBut whenever I try to run sudo apt-get update, it just start to show http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923904 error03:02
wilee-nileedanny4way, You running 13.04?03:02
danny4wayYep03:02
wilee-nileedanny4way, There is no release in that ppa for raring03:02
danny4wayMeaning?03:03
danny4wayThose following commands aren't compatible with 13.04 yet?03:03
wilee-nileedanny4way, raring is 13.04 there is nothing in that ppa for raring only up to 12.04.03:03
afotekIs there any safe way to work with NTFS? NTFS-3G messed up my FS last time.03:04
wilee-nileedanny4way, Not commands but packages.03:04
danny4wayYeah. So they aren't just compatible yet.03:04
danny4waySo if i want to work with other packages, it will sure work. Right?03:04
wilee-nileedanny4way, I thought you were just trying to get rid of the ppa.03:04
danny4wayNo. I was actually trying to use following commands03:05
danny4wayBut whenver I use sudo apt-get update, it get stuck with errors.03:05
wilee-nileedanny4way, Can't guarantee anything PPA's are considered unstable and basically not supported.03:05
brucewhealton_Hello all... was looking for some help with ubuntu server 13.04 and installing an app called owncloud03:05
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danny4wayOh and it's not working again.03:06
brucewhealton_I did this using apt-get but it didn't create any databases03:06
danny4wayIt was working the first time  I tried sudo apt-get update03:06
wilee-nileedanny4way, You keep making rookie mistakes. Never add a ppa unless you check that bthere are packages that support your release.03:06
danny4wayNOw it shows the same thing as before.03:06
ciaociao03:06
brucewhealton_I don't know if when you install with apt-get it uses sqlite or if the software doesn't use a db03:06
wilee-nileedanny4way, That PPA never worked.03:07
danny4waySorry. I dont know. Because I was a windows user03:07
wilee-nileein 13.0403:07
ciaociao!list03:07
brucewhealton_or maybe I have to install a db myself and somehow links that with the owncloud installation03:07
brucewhealton_any ideas?03:07
wilee-nileedanny4way, No biggie, you turned off that ppa before how did you do it?03:07
mrdebhi. if u install chrome on ubuntu lts, does it include pdf viewer and pepper flash03:08
mrdeb??03:08
danny4wayLIke going to software setting then remove that package?03:08
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savagejenalright, does anyone know how to disable mir once you've enabled it?03:08
danny4wayI just did and it's still loading.03:08
yahyaacan someone please help me???03:08
brucewhealton_the page comes up ok and the recommended installation was with apt-get but I cannot figure out if the software needs a db or not?03:08
danny4wayYeah. It's working now.03:08
wilee-nileemrdeb, flash yes a pdf reader not sure.03:08
yahyaaI am trying to burn an audio cd but k3b keeps crashing everytime I try to add the music I want, when I attempt to run a back trace this is what it says "Application: K3b (k3b), signal: Segmentation fault"03:08
hal14450forums still down eh? I was hoping for a more detailed explanation as to what happened. Does anyone happen to have any info or links?03:09
mrdebok wilee-nilee , so can i delete firefox and put chrome on03:09
yahyaaIt was working fine about a week ago, but now it keeps crashing, please help!!!03:09
danny4wayThank you. So yeah. How do i check if the package is supported for my release?03:09
casshernhola03:09
wilee-nileemrdeb, I would leave firefox one never knows, and install chrome if you want.03:09
casshernhello03:09
RaveYodaDoes anyone know the group name for mounting devices such as usbs, cds, dvds, etc. My user can't mount stuff normally03:09
joshuis this the preferred way to make a directory read-only, "   mount --bind /foo /foo-share; mount -o remount,ro /foo-freerdp-share"03:09
somsipRaveYoda: plugdev ?03:09
zeestHello. I know a partition dumped with dd can be mounted, but can it be resized?03:09
RaveYodaAnd how do I add a user to this?03:10
cassherncan someone please, with what app, i can play games on linux besides wine and playonlinux? thanks03:11
Dr_williszeest,  i belive it can.03:11
zeestDr_willis: do you know how?03:11
Dr_williscasshern,  play native linux games..03:11
RaveYodajust type sudo usermod -a -G plugdev userName?03:11
Az3rtyHi, I have a little problem with movie and music. For the song, there are a little white every seconds and for the film, screen is black. I use VLC and my PC is a Eee PC 1101ha. I had try to install different codecs but I dosen't work... (I'm french)03:11
Dr_williszeest,  resizefs, gparted, parted perhaps. Ive never really needed to do so.03:12
somsipRaveYoda: yes03:12
guzzlefryDoes anyone know which package installs the calendar/time panel thing for Gnome-shell?03:12
somsipRaveYoda: they will need to logout/in to effect the change03:12
RaveYodagotcha, thx somsip mate03:12
casshern@Dr_willis i want install some games i buy for when i have win 703:12
Dr_williscasshern,  then you will most likely want to use wine or play-on-linux03:13
somsipRaveYoda: np03:13
reisioAz3rty: white noise?03:13
Dr_willisplay-on-linux is a fancy thing for wine basically.03:13
reisios/fancy//03:13
Az3rty@reisio : Yes03:14
cassherni read long time ago that exist other app for this purpose03:14
wilee-nileeplayonlinux is a real dandy03:14
Dr_willisyou really dont need to use @ on irc.. this isent twitter.03:14
Dr_williscasshern,  they are most likely other front ends to wine, or some wine variant03:14
hal14450Dr_willis, amen brother03:15
casshernok, thanks everyone...03:15
hal14450casshern, there are also native games03:15
Dr_williscasshern,  check the wine app database to see if the games you want to run are supported at all.03:15
casshernthanks also i been check steam for games03:15
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Dr_willissteam now has a native linux client and a great many games.03:16
casshernim new with linux03:16
Dr_willis!steam03:16
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.03:16
Dr_willisOf course tehres hundreds of free/open sourced games out with native linux versions03:17
hal14450one of my steam games doesn't work but i can't be bothered to figure out the reason03:17
casshernDr_willis thank you03:17
hal14450so i take it nobody has any info on the forum hack?03:18
wilee-nileehal14450, It is all on the splash, what is known that can be shared.03:18
jesuselittle bit disappointed with ubuntu03:19
jesuse12.0403:19
jesusetoo many errors03:19
casshernUbuntu 12.04 LTS how stable it is?03:19
jesuseanything that I install I get an error03:19
hal14450wilee-nilee, so no details at then...03:19
wilee-nileehal14450, It is all on the splash, what is known that can be shared. lol03:19
wilee-nileeno I'm not a bot03:19
hal14450...03:19
Az3rtyNobody ?03:19
hal14450i got the 'lol'03:20
Mestre-SplinterHey guys, im having some problem with my wifi. Im on xubuntu 13.04. Im always disconnected when downloading something. Steam, torents and even downloading files trhogh the browser. My chip set is RLT8187. I tried to look on the foruns of ubuntu but it is offline03:20
cassherni'm using 12.04 since yesterday and install meany programs without error03:20
Kitt3nhal14450, which of your steam games aren't working? One of Valve's03:20
wilee-nileehal14450, Not really a matter of discussion here is all.03:20
chatterbotHi, any info about this bug? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/116543303:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 1165433 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel 3.8.x panics on bluetooth DUN disconnect" [High,Confirmed]03:20
chatterbotAny way I can really work around this?03:20
hal14450Kitt3n, i got it from steam but it's not a valve title03:20
Az3rty,Mestre-Splinter : Have you a other PC connect by wifi in your box ?03:20
Kitt3nhal14450, Ah, okay.03:21
wilee-nileejesuse, Why are you using it if disappointed, and what makes you think we care what you use.03:21
trismguzzlefry: isn't it just a bunch of js files in gnome-shell-common? dateMenu.js calendar.js, etc03:21
Mestre-SplinterAz3rty, yeah, my girlfriend laptop works fine03:21
hal14450Kitt3n, i can't recall the name and it's on a different box than my current one03:21
guzzlefrytrism: Haven't a clue.03:22
casshernif you install gnome3 on unity, delete Unity? or i can return if i want?03:22
HypnotiXWill  there be a problem if i installed ubuntu without a swap partition ?03:22
wilee-nileecasshern, unity run ontop of gnome 303:22
hal14450HypnotiX, if you run out of ram yes03:22
HypnotiXshould i create one now ?03:23
hal14450you could03:23
wilee-nileecasshern, Do you mean the gnome 3 desktop known as the gnome-shell here or the fallback03:23
Az3rtyMestre-Splinter : It's very strange, I had this problem but for all PC and I have changing my box. But in your case...03:23
HypnotiXi didnt create one when i installed because it kept giving me errors because of it :)03:23
hal14450HypnotiX, what errors?03:24
HypnotiXcouldent mount swap at scsi 0,0,003:24
casshernwille-nilee i mean the desktop you install with this command03:25
casshernsudo apt-get install gnome-shell03:25
wilee-nileeHypnotiX, You encrypted?03:25
HypnotiXno03:25
hal14450you could use a swap file03:25
HypnotiXi just tried to install linux next to windows :)03:25
Mestre-SplinterAz3rty, in my case im screwd? hahha03:25
nownotquestion on avconv of ffmpeg, how would I convert flac to alac (mp4) ? I keep getting errors like "utomatic encoder selection failed for output stream #0:0. Default encoder for format ipod is probably disabled. Please choose an encoder manually."03:25
hal14450i use a partition myself but i have a friend that uses a file03:25
wilee-nileecasshern, I see, I would not mess with removing unity it is very small just a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3.03:25
HypnotiX!swap03:26
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info03:26
wilee-nileeHypnotiX, Did you install from windows a wubi?03:26
casshernwilee-nilee ok03:26
HypnotiXyes03:26
wilee-nileeHypnotiX, Ah that was the most important bit of info here, no swap is made, you have a file in windows no partition.03:27
casshernwilee-nilee i just wanna try that desktop anyway! XD03:27
wilee-nileecasshern, Cool I use the shell I like it.03:28
HypnotiXwilee-nilee: so what does that mean for me :)03:28
rAadI tried recompiling vim but its not using the right binary: http://pastie.org/818534403:28
hal14450HypnotiX, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F03:28
wilee-nileeHypnotiX, A problematic install not supported anymore basically with only one user I have seen with any expertise, other than that it is ubuntu.03:29
hal14450yuck wubi03:29
RaveYodaOK, I added my user to both plugdev and disk droups yet my system refuses to mount the drive automatically.03:29
HypnotiXwell i installed linux on its own partition03:29
wilee-nileeHyperbyte, Not from windows other than a file in a ntfs.03:30
HypnotiXi created an ext4 and installed it on that03:30
hal14450wubi is a pretend install03:30
wilee-nileeHypnotiX, NOt from windows.03:30
HypnotiXyeah03:30
RaveYodaThis is a fresh install of Ubu 12:04 where I added only the pkgs I wanted after the base system was installed.03:30
HypnotiXi think i didnt understand your previous question :)03:30
wilee-nileeHypnotiX, Well if you did you might take up miracles because you just performed one.03:31
eaxxaeis there an easy way to replace openjdk with oracle jdk03:31
HypnotiXi did boot linux and installed it from an usb stick03:31
hal14450RaveYoda, lsusb sees the device?03:31
RaveYodaMy file manager is SpaceFM03:31
hal14450what does dmesg have to say?03:31
wilee-nileeHypnotiX, Ah now a usb stick install I see. ;)03:31
RaveYodahal14450, It does03:32
zeestDr_willis: none of those seem to recognize the partition03:32
RaveYodaI can of course mont it through sudo mount /dev/sdb1 but that's uber tedious and certain programs don't like this COUGH Multisystem03:33
flickhi... i decided that i don't need so much swap space. how can i resize the swap to make it less, and put that space into the root partition?03:34
hal14450user@laptop:~$ groups03:34
hal14450<username> adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare jupiter03:34
casshernswap partition must be the twice of your ram03:34
hal14450RaveYoda, if that helps i run 12.04 here03:34
HypnotiXhaha stats for nerds :)03:34
HypnotiXawesome03:35
hal14450casshern, that's a waste really03:35
overdubmodern computers have enough RAM to never need swap space03:35
flicki have 750MB ram and 1GB swap03:35
Kitt3ncasshern, that's not true.03:35
flickbut the swap is completely unused !03:35
overdubi disable mine with sudo swapoff -a03:35
flicki checked with the command - free03:35
RaveYodahal14450, I have all of those but Jupitor03:36
hal14450RaveYoda, yeah that's a laptop specific app for controlling junk i should have ditched ages ago03:36
hal14450nothing to do with mounts03:36
casshernits not like windows? LOL03:36
hal14450casshern, not even remotely like it03:37
RaveYodahal14450, Oh...well...I've got all of them plus the Disk group03:37
flickwhat are some memory intensive things to do? i want to push the ram as much as possible, to see if it still uses swap. i have Firefox, IPython Notebook, Gimp all open together at the same time now03:37
RaveYodahal14450, excluding Jupiter03:37
reisioflick: compile pypy :p03:38
hal14450RaveYoda, what DE are you suing?03:38
hal14450using even03:38
RaveYodahal14450, Sorry, DE?03:38
flickcool... while compiling, how do i check the peak memory usage?03:38
hal14450Desktop Environment03:38
DimBulbminecraft is very memory intensive03:38
overdubflick, open a few hundred graphics files with GIMP03:38
DimBulbflick: use minecraft to max out03:38
overdubthat'll do it03:38
flickok i will get minecraft03:39
hal14450mem[Physical: 3.8GB, 73.5% free - Swap: 3.7GB, 99.2% free]03:39
RaveYodahal14450,  As in the disk/usb drive? It's a WD drive03:39
hal14450no i mean Unity/KDE/?03:40
flickthere is no minecraft, but something called minetest in synaptic. it says it is inspired by minecraft. will that do?03:40
RaveYodahal14450, OHHHH Openbox03:40
DimBulbI'm not sure03:40
wilee-nileenice nick, lol03:40
DimBulbI'm not fimiliar with minetest03:40
Kitt3nflick, Minetest is in no way as intensive as Minecraft03:40
Dr_willisrun minetest  200 times! ;)03:41
hal14450RaveYoda, haha yeah so i'd guess running that minimal environment means you'll have to script automount03:41
DimBulbminecraft.net03:41
DimBulbto get minecraft03:41
Dr_willis!info autofs03:41
ubottuautofs (source: autofs): kernel-based automounter for Linux. In component main, is extra. Version 5.0.7-3ubuntu1 (raring), package size 647 kB, installed size 1491 kB03:41
RaveYodahal14450, But my current desktop is automounting fine?03:42
RaveYodahal14450, It's my laptop that isn't03:42
hal14450RaveYoda, fucked if i know man03:42
DimBulbflick: is this you're primary machine that has 768mb of ram?03:42
hal14450i pretty much mount everything that matters manually anyway03:42
Dr_willistheres several desktop services that auto mount things.    what desktop/wm are you using RaveYoda ?03:43
RaveYodahal14450,  T.T Damn....That sucks, thx though03:43
flicksometimes i install something which installs dependencies. when i uninstall it, the dependencies remain - how do i remove these packages which are no longer needed?03:43
hal14450sshfs is my favorite thing03:43
flickDimBulb, nope - the primary machine has more ram03:43
Dr_willisflick,  try  'sudo apt-get auto-remove'  perhaps?03:43
RaveYodaDr_willis, I'm using Openbox with the RazorQT Panel03:43
Kitt3nflick, "sudo apt-get autoremove" will clean the system of unneeded packages03:43
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  then you dont have the auto mounting services from gnome running, (or whatever qt/kde equilivent they are) would be my guess03:44
marcmI am setting up a server for KVM virtualization (with LVMs) and I got 6 x 2TB drives and an LSI 9260 8i RAID controller. I get more space with RAID 50, however I am wondering what the performance penalty is vs. RAID 10? Can anyone help me with this please? Thank you.03:44
flickoh cool thanks!03:44
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  theres some auto-mounter assistant tools int he repos i recall. that basically show a button to mount/unmount things if you dont want to install a larger automounting system.03:44
RaveYodaDr_willis,  My File manager is SpaceFM. I've done a base install with Ubu 12:04 and added all pkges I wanted03:45
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  so you need to decide how badly you want things to auto mount - and install the needed tools or not..03:45
RaveYodaDr_willis,  The RazorQT Panel has such a button03:45
Kitt3n^03:45
hal14450RaveYoda, my fm is mc lol03:46
RaveYodaDr_willis,  It's the permission system that's messing me up03:46
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  depends on the fs you are mounting, as to what you need to do, to get what permissions/ownership.03:46
RaveYodahal14450,  MC? MuCommander?03:46
Dr_willis!info mc03:47
ubottumc (source: mc): Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.8.3-10 (raring), package size 422 kB, installed size 1312 kB03:47
Dr_willisi like rox-filer also. ;) as an alternative file manager03:47
hal14450^^^ what ubottu said03:47
hal14450rsync is fun too03:47
RaveYodaDr_willis, Ohhh, duuhhh me. XD MuCommander is much like it but based with Java scripts and QT themes03:48
eaxxaemc is a classic, used it for about a decade, prob longer03:48
Dr_willismc has so many features and extras, ive used it for years.. and havent touched on 10% of them03:48
RaveYodahal14450,  You should check out SpaceFM.03:48
RaveYodahal14450,  =P03:48
Dr_willisdual pane file managers. ;) gotta love the classics03:48
RaveYodaDr_willis, the fs is NTFS on the external drive btw03:49
hal14450eaxxae, glad to see i'm in good company =D RaveYoda I'll always be a cli junkie03:49
eaxxaeruns in an ssh session too, GUI file managers are bloated.. ;)03:49
reisioslow way to get around, indeed03:49
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  then you will want to look into the ntfs-3g options for getting it mounted how you want. there was a ntfs-config tool on normal ubuntu that could auto-make a ntfs-3g entry in /etc/fstab for them. but that may pull in more then what you want03:50
hal14450eaxxae, screen has at least two instances running all the time03:50
reisio/usr/lib64/misc/xscreensaver/apple2 -text -fast -program bash :)03:50
RaveYodahal14450, Errr welll. SpFM isn't persay cli.... But it's still veerrryyy light compared to Nautilus in my humble opinion03:50
reisiothat's my new fm03:50
hal14450gnu-screen that is03:50
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  also rember if the ntfs, or vfat fs were 'unmounted uncleanly' from windows, linux may refuse to mount them03:50
RaveYodaDr_willis,  I have ntfs-3g installed already? So just get the automounter script for it?03:51
hal14450RaveYoda, i'm very set in my ways i have the same time invested as eaxxae in using a cli manager for files03:51
HypnotiXcan someone tell me how to access the settings on pidgin, sry if its a dumb question :)03:51
Dr_willisI dont know what you have installed RaveYoda  :) (you are asking me?)    you can make a generic fstab entry for the various ntfs drives if you wanted and just mount them as needed.03:52
RaveYodahal14450,  I'm working my way to cli. I just like the point and click for running files too much03:52
hal14450RaveYoda, use what suits you don't try to conform to a cli fm if that's not what you like03:53
hal14450i'm content using what i've used for ages because i know it and like it03:53
Dr_willismc has so many features and is so  handy to use over ssh.. its a must learn about tool. ;)03:54
hal14450it is exceptionally handy Dr_willis03:54
hal14450but slower than rsync03:54
Dr_willisi also find mcedit easier to use then most of the 'suggested' beginner text editors03:54
RaveYodahal14450,  Totally bro, but one day it'll all be cli. I LOOOVVEEE LITE RESOURCE Systems. Hence my ubu base system with a completly diffrent software selection03:55
hal14450sshfs speeds it up because it doesn't use fish then03:55
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hal14450RaveYoda, familiar with screen or tmux yet?03:55
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hal14450those are must have apps for the cli03:55
hal14450pick one03:56
hal14450they don't mix well03:56
Dr_willis!info byobu03:56
RaveYodaDr_willis, I can't get the launch scripts for programs right is all really. Once I knew how to get MC to launch programs i'd use it in a heart beat03:56
ubottubyobu (source: byobu): powerful, text based window manager and shell multiplexer. In component main, is optional. Version 5.35-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 93 kB, installed size 543 kB03:56
casshern.03:56
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  i dont really see the point in using mc to launch programs..03:56
RaveYodahal14450,  Not heard of 'em? I'll look up03:56
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  you just find the executable  and hit enter on it in mc.. and it launches it..03:57
hal14450RaveYoda, Dr_willis mentioned one too03:57
Dr_willismc is a FILE MANAGER, not an app-launcher. but it can for example launch your video player when you select a  video file.03:57
RaveYodaDr_willis, I can't ever find the exacutables03:57
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  this is why you just use the shell and type their names :) no need to find them03:57
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  and mc lets you do that  from within mc.03:58
Dr_willissince mc has a shell built in at the bottom03:58
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Pinkamena_DI am curious why opening a large text file with gedit takes so long. just now I tried to open an 80mb text file and its still not unfrozen (been about 2.5 minutes), yet when I try ot load something like chrome which uses like 10 times that amount of ram, it takes maybe 30 seconds max to load up.03:59
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RaveYodaDr_willis, and hall Well, for instance, i type vlc fileName and it never runs through the fm.04:00
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hal14450Pinkamena_D, because it's a gui app but honestly it shouldn't really take that long04:00
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hal14450try viewing in a pager like less04:00
Pinkamena_Dok, but I hope it doe snot force me to lose work that was open in other tabs04:01
hal14450q to quit less04:01
Pinkamena_Dstill slowely alternating between that "darkened" start and "light" (but still not responding04:02
hal14450/<search term04:02
RaveYodahal14450,  I'm liking tmux. Seems handy04:02
hal14450you went with the one i don't use lol04:02
hal14450i prefer screen04:02
hal14450Pinkamena_D, is it a network attached file or a local one?04:03
Pinkamena_Dlocal04:03
hal14450hmm04:03
Pinkamena_Dits just a dump from an old access 2 database04:03
cassherndo you guys remember the movie die hard 4? what kind of chat is using the hacker "justin long" and OS04:04
hal14450do you need to edit it or just read it?04:04
bretIs there a website tracking the Ubuntu edge income rates and progress?  Something to get a better idea of if its going to make it04:04
RaveYodahal14450,  and Dr_willis  Does the file manager potentialy need permission to mount devices? Or is this handled through the groups?04:04
Pinkamena_DI was trying to get the schema,04:04
reisiohal14450: screenshot?04:04
reisioerm04:04
reisiocasshern: screenshot?04:04
casshernwait...04:04
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  it can be handled by groups, or fstab options04:05
kunjiHow do I troubleshoot a consistently failing boot of Ubuntu?04:05
hal14450kunji, fails as in how?04:06
eaxxaekunji: boot in single user mode04:06
RaveYodaDr_willis, ok, wait, what if fstab and or mtab don't see the device?04:07
hal14450kunji, so no kernel gets loaded?04:07
casshernreisio here the screenshot http://nmap.org/movies/diehard4/nmap-diehard4-1080p-1920x801.png04:07
RaveYodaDr_willis, Because if i just type mount /dev/sdb2 it says can't find /dev/sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:08
kunjihal14450: A complete freeze during the Plymouth? screen, that purple loading screen.  It does this unless the machine was powered off with the power button (as opposed to an OS shutting down the system).  On the next boot it wants to do a bug report involving Xorg, but I'm not sure how to see what it wanted to report exactly.04:08
hal14450ctrl+alt+F1 do anything?04:08
kunjihal14450: nope04:09
RaveYodaDr_willis, And sense i'm in the correct groups mount /dev/sdb2 should work04:09
reisiocasshern: that is a contrived UI04:09
hal14450kunji, it's been a while but i'd try booting to a usb and then changing it to boot to txt then check the xorg logs04:10
reisiocasshern: it might even be all post processed04:10
hal14450can't recall how to do that offhand04:10
reisiocasshern: I'll check my copy and tell you04:10
casshernok thanks04:10
hal14450haven't used it so i 'losed' it04:11
casshernand its not necessary04:11
reisiocasshern: oh yes it is!04:12
reisiobut if you want an "irc" client like that, just use pidgin04:12
kunjihal14450: I can get it to boot and I can check the logs, when I say consistent I mean it always does it after being shut down properly, I can just power it off via the power button and boot and it will boot up fine.  I didn't notice anything weird in the xorg logs previously, is there something they use to indicate errors as opposed to normal logs that I can grep for, ERR or something?04:12
hal14450reisio, that actually looks a bit like fluxbox and conky04:12
casshernreisio XD04:12
reisioyeah it's a window manager, with decorations04:13
reisioand the "chat" part is just lines of text, with an avatar04:13
casshernreisio i have installed04:13
kunjihal14450: I have actually found some errors regarding AHCI though, not sure if they're superfluous or not.04:13
reisio'cause why have a realistic nmap output on one side AND a realistic something else on the other side?04:13
reisiorealistic + nonsense, YAY04:13
casshernHollywood...04:14
Shadowandlighthow do i make sure apache is working on my server?04:14
hal14450kunji, grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg0.log <--- something like that for the path04:14
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  you can use the user/users option in  fstab and  then a user can mount/unmount sdb204:14
Shadowandlightapache status is good, its running, but not showing04:14
hal14450kunji, use tab for completion on the path04:15
hal14450Shadowandlight, lsof -i|grep apache04:15
kunjihal14450: That's the right path, here is all it gets that looks even remotely useful for this:  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.04:16
hal14450kunji, so no errors on the xorg log04:16
RaveYodaDr_willis,  OK, Uhhhhhh... how may I go about this?04:16
go8765hello. i cant run skype and get memory overload. can anybody help me with this?04:17
kunjihal14450: Well, looks like there's more in the Xorg.1.log04:17
Dr_willis!fstab | RaveYoda04:17
ubottuRaveYoda: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:17
hal14450kunji, there will be more but it might not have any errors04:17
Dr_willisRaveYoda,  the ntfs-3g homepage gives numerous example fstab entries for ntfs  filesystems04:17
kunjihal14450: [    74.218] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER04:17
kunji[    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): Output LVDS enabled but has no modes04:17
kunji[    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): Display Infrastructure Failed04:17
kunji[    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): PreInit failed04:17
kunji[    75.403] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.04:17
kunji[    75.403] (EE)04:17
kunji[    75.403] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" for additional information.04:17
FloodBot1kunji: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:17
kunjiT.T whoops, didn't realize there were returns in that04:17
hal14450whoops04:17
hal14450!pastebin04:18
hal14450...04:18
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:18
kunjiYeah, didn't realize it was going to be that long, looked short in terminal04:18
RaveYodaAlright, thx Dr_willis04:18
hal14450it always does ;)04:18
hal14450so kunji this sort of sounds like a not waking up from screensaver issue more than anything else04:19
hal14450hibernate much?04:20
amyassinanyone has more info of what happened to ubuntu forums?04:20
kunjihal14450: Actually isn't the number in that log file the display though?  In which case the Xorg.1.log file is probably ancient and irrelevant here.04:20
kunjihal14450: nah, no hibernating, no screensaver, not even turning the screen off04:20
Dr_willisamyassin,  it was space aliens! :) actually im sure there will be some big blog postings on it when its all said and done..  and they are sure they got it fixed04:21
hal14450amyassin, sadly that's the reason i joined tonight and nobody has said anything other than what's on the placeholder is all we have04:21
hal14450amyassin, that's public...04:21
Dr_willishopefully all these other places that use the same forum software will lock things down04:22
hal14450kunji, the logs say otherwise04:22
hal14450from you posted04:22
kunjihal14450: Right, that's what I'm saying though, that's probably from when I first installed Ubuntu, so a few months old04:22
amyassinDr_willis hope they get there soon...04:23
hal14450kunji, no on each boot the previous log is renamed to 1,2,3 etc04:23
amyassinhal14450, seems nothing yet public.. kinda sad04:23
hal14450amyassin, it is04:24
hal14450i already have enough security concerns but at least that isn't tied to cc info04:24
amyassinI use google cache these days to get the info04:24
kunjihal14450: Is that Ubuntu specific?  You think it's hibernating instead of shutting down then?  Because the documentation says this: -logfile filename  Use the file called filename as the Xorg server log file.  The default log file is /var/log/Xorg.n.log on most platforms, where n is the display number of the Xorg server.  The default may be in a different directory on some platforms. This option is only available when the server is run as r04:24
hal14450kunji, check the date04:25
hal14450amyassin, that can be handy i guess but i prefer ddg04:25
amyassinhal14450: what's ddg??04:26
kunjihal14450: with ls -la I get May 15 04:26 on the Xorg.1.log file04:26
hal14450<---paranoid duckduckgo.com04:26
RaveYodaDr_willis, and hal14450  THANK YOU TO THE BOTH OF YOU!!! I fixed it with fstab editing. =] OPGHJHJGHJJHGHF STUPIDLY HAPPY ATM04:27
hal14450so i guess it's not relevant then kunji and you're welcome RaveYoda but i think Dr_willis is the one to thank for that04:27
hal14450amyassin, i'm literally playing without a full deck if you check my host04:29
DanCanybody else seeing really slow apt-gets from us.archive.ubuntu.com? I'm getting 139 kB/s04:29
RaveYodaHalyard, Well...yes to a degree, but you told me how to get the user into plugdev04:30
hal14450[00:29:56] * [hal14450] is connecting from *@definitely.playingwithoutafulldeck.com04:30
kunjihal14450: I misremembered earlier, the errors I found before are not AHCI, they are ACPI.  In dmesg I found this: http://pastebin.com/mcbB5can04:30
hal14450lol04:30
RaveYodahal14450, which is quite important too as user needs to be in the group to not have to do sudo mount04:30
Shadowandlightim running a custom created app on my web server .... i had it running, restarted the server... turned back on the app and now i get no images loadin on the test website ... heres what keeps coming up in the command line - https://privatepaste.com/52124228ef04:31
casshernubuntu 12.04 LTS until when its gonna have support?04:31
hal14450casshern, it has support04:32
john__hi i have .vmdk file how to install that file in kvm on ubuntu04:32
cassherni mean until what year?04:32
hal14450iirc 3 years is the standard for LTS04:33
casshernthanks04:33
hal14450until a new one04:33
hal144505 yrs for support iirc04:33
Dr_willisjohn__,  perhaps this -> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_To_Migrate_From_Vmware_To_KVM04:33
wilee-nileeShadowandlight, not sure how your custom app relates here, if you think it is the server and it is ubuntu you might try #ubuntu-server04:34
agushello04:34
agusping!!!04:34
casshernWHAT?04:35
Dr_willisPing? we barely even met...04:35
smgordonLOL04:35
aguswhere word is that04:35
kunjihal14450: Also ACPI errors in kern.log04:35
kunjihal14450: Hmm, there is a cups fail in boot.log, almost looks like it's trying to load cups twice04:37
agusplease help me04:37
smgordonwell agus  speak04:38
john__<Dr_willis>iam alreadt tried this link but it is not working04:38
hal14450kunji, not sure whats up but hunting for errors in logs will generally glean more false positives than you have time for04:38
agustolong aku laper nih04:39
Dr_willisjohn__,  means nothing to me. i dont use either one.. that url says it should have native support.. perhaps ask in the kvm channels.04:39
hal14450agus, we can't help you unless you speak english here04:39
kunjihal14450: Yeah, I sure don't have time to hunt down what they all mean, was hoping you might know if they're worth dismissing  or are common offenders :P04:39
agushow to updete ubuntu 10.04 to 13.0404:40
hal14450like most folks i use a search engine for answers i don't already have or have forgotten the solution to04:40
kunjihal14450: It's just a really weird one to me, like something in the shutdown process causes the fail on next boot... but it's a dual boot machine, and windows will boot every time regardless. Also it doesn't seem to matter whether it was shut down from windows or from Ubuntu, the next boot Ubuntu errors unless the machine was shutdown via the holding the power button.  I'm really suspecting firmware at this point.04:41
hal14450agus, probably too late for that since it's not an LTS so support is gone04:42
kunjihal14450: Yeah, no luck with google yet, :P  I'll keep at it and let you know if I fine anything.04:42
kunji*find04:42
hal14450kunji, sotty i can't be more helpful :(04:43
hal14450damn typos04:44
Dr_willissooty :)04:44
hal14450getting late here04:44
hal14450lol04:44
hal14450Dr_willis, was i wrong though?04:44
hal1445010.04 isn't exactly what most folks run if they're long term04:45
smgordonmaybe thats why he wants to update to 13.0404:46
hal14450am i wrong though because i ran 8.04 on my dtop for ages04:46
agusmodussssssssssssssss04:47
hal14450i mean literally until last year when i finally updated to 12.0404:47
agushas join04:47
kunjiWell, I'm gonna try just removing xorg.conf and rebooting, since that error report about xorg happens, maybe I'll get lucky, gotta reboot for that now, be back in a bit.04:48
John__I have a fun situation. I have Ubuntu installed and I'm looking at installing Windows 7 alongside it. Should I reformat my HD and start from scratch, find a way to install Windows after Ubuntu, or can I "Export" my Ubuntu setup, install Windows, then reinstall it with my current setup?04:48
agusany can speaking indonesian , hellooo..............04:49
smgordonno  sorry agus04:49
smgordonuse google translate04:49
wilee-nileeJohn__, You want windows at the front of the disc for easy repair access04:50
aguswadoh aku terpencil kie04:50
hal14450John__, there used to be a way to add it to ntldr by copying the first 512 bytes but iirc win7 doesn't use that method like previous windows versions did04:51
hal14450so basically it would be a pain to install afterwards and then access your any other os because windows only cares about itself04:52
* wilee-nilee did not know windows was sentient.04:53
hal14450agus, you can try apt-get dist-upgrade04:53
John__Grah04:54
wilee-nileeJohn__, You can clone ubuntu and load it back if you need to.04:54
John__Oh really?04:54
John__Somebody mentioned that04:54
hal14450windows won't even knwo it's there you just need to repair the boot loader04:55
wilee-nileeJohn__, I use clonezilla, the only catch is if the partition # is different your loading you will change that info in the saved packages, and it loads to a equal or larger partition of the original.04:55
casshernagus ???04:55
hal14450it can't recognize any filesystems other than MS filesystems04:55
John__Grah I think I'll just backup my code from ubuntu and start anew. I'm very new to partitioning and I'm almost positive I'll end up breaking it somehow.04:56
hal14450using separate drives is best if it's a dtop04:56
hal14450linux on the ssd and windows on the old spinner04:57
John__I don't have an SSD or multiple drives haha04:58
wilee-nileeJohn__, Also note when you are getting opinions not substance on the irc,04:58
dirtydaw1morning all04:58
cmck193need some help.  installed windows 7 in virtualbox on ubuntu host.  I'm having issues with usb passthrough.04:58
John__I know, thank you04:58
John__I'll just fold and start from scratch haha04:58
wilee-nileecmck193, You add the usb in settings?04:58
hal14450ymmv with my opinions because i admit 10.04 is actually an LTS i skipped lol04:58
cmck193wille-nille: how do I add the usb?04:59
wilee-nileecmck193, Go to setting in vbox and add them.04:59
wilee-nileethere is a usb tab04:59
cmck193wille-nille: it tells me no usb devices available05:00
hal14450cmck193, sometimes you need to enable it in the bios if it won't work otherwise05:00
cmck193hal14450: enable what in the bios?05:00
wilee-nileecmck193, Any plugged in, and if so are they mounted with fstab?05:00
hal14450usb passthrough for vm05:00
cmck193hal14450: they are mounted05:00
cmck193wille-nille: they are mounted05:01
cmck193hal14450: that's an option?05:01
wilee-nileecmck193, With fstab05:01
kunjiI think I sort of know what's up now.  I actually think it was the proprietary driver failing to switch between graphics cards.  The laptop this is on has an A10 and a 7970m, and there is an indicator light for which one is in use.  This fails to change in the cases where the boot fails.  Removing Xorg.conf didn't help, but I switched to the open source drivers just now and it's been solid for 5 reboots.05:01
cmck193wille-nille: yup.  do they not need to be mounted?05:01
wilee-nileecmck193, I suspect that is why vbox does not see them.05:02
wilee-nileecmck193, fstab mounts differently then a just plugging in or having it plugged in when you boot.05:02
cmck193wille-nille: so, they need to be unmounted from the host?05:03
wilee-nileecmck193, No, probably just not mounted by fstab, they have to be seen by the computer.05:03
kunjiThere are unfortunately two downsides to using the open drivers on this machine, one is that the Steam games run better with the proprietary drivers (at least last I heard), and 2nd that my battery life will be shorter, since I don't think I know how to convince the open source drivers to switch to using the A10 instead of the 7870m05:03
wilee-nileeI never use fstab to mount externals or more than my one HD, so I'm not quite sure the voodoo that it does05:04
cmck193wille-nille: maybe i'm not checking it correctly.  tell me how to double check fstab05:05
wilee-nileecmck193, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab05:05
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cmck193wille-nille: ok, i'm wrong.  just my swap and ext4 shows05:06
wilee-nileecmck193, So is the usb showing as mounted?05:07
casshernubuntu 12.04 wifi doesn't work properly, it disconnects me every 5 or 10 minutes. and after a while doesn't even connect me. can help me?05:07
wilee-nileecmck193, Do you have the guest additions installed, and are you in the vbox group?05:07
cmck193not in fstab,  but i can see the files on it05:07
cmck193yes and just added.05:07
casshernalready install the driver of my wifi with ndiswrapper05:08
casshernand nothing!05:08
babinlonstonI want to monitor the Whole Posgresql  in nagios how can i do it05:08
wilee-nileecmck193, So you see the usb icon in the left sidepanel of home?05:08
kunjiwilee-nilee: fstab does voodoo?  I thought it just mounted the listed stuff on boot with the given options, so at least I thought it was pretty straightforward.  There's something else in Ubuntu that handles auto-mounting removable stuff and things like that, don't remember what it is though05:09
HypnotiXcan i just say that i enjoy this ubuntu :)05:09
wilee-nileeno05:09
wilee-nileelol05:09
HypnotiX:(05:09
cmck193wille-nille: yup.  do i need to unmount it?  i added myself to the vbox group.  do i need to restart?05:09
wilee-nileecmck193, Maynbe a logout would probably do it if that is the problem.05:10
cassherni need help with my wifi, please!05:10
HypnotiXwish i didnt need to keep my windows installation for the damn photoshop05:10
wilee-nilee!details | casshern to the channel05:10
ubottucasshern to the channel: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."05:10
cmck193wille-nille: ok.  brb going to logout and try again05:10
casshernubuntu 12.04 wifi doesn't work properly, it disconnects me every 5 or 10 minutes. and after a while doesn't even connect me. can help me?05:10
dirtydaw1who05:10
dirtydaw1wc05:10
casshernwifi card rtl818705:10
wilee-nilee! rtl818705:11
kunjiHypnotiX: I hear it will work with magic combinations of the right WINE with the right photoshop, you could try it if you want.05:11
HypnotiXif i have the 32bit ubuntu will the system use 8gb or is it limited to 4 ?05:12
kunjiShould use 805:12
HypnotiXty05:12
HypnotiX!nvidia05:13
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto05:13
cmck193wilee-nilee: ok, fixing to try it out05:14
casshern_.05:14
wilee-nileeHypnotiX, I believe so now with the pae kernels. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE05:15
VbitzCan Ubuntu 13.04 be installed on the Samsung ATIV Smart PC 500T, it's a 32bit processor and it uses uefi, should I try now or wait for 13.10?05:15
cmck193wilee-nilee: nice. it's working.  is there a way i can set everything connected to a certain port to automatically be connected to the vm?05:15
wilee-nileecmck193, not sure on the port, do you mean like a multi usb usb plugin?05:16
casshern_:(05:17
cmck193wilee-nilee: i connect to fire alarm panels via usb.  have 3 ports on my laptop.  don't know how it would work.  wanted to setup a certain port to go directly to the vm if running05:17
wilee-nilee!uefi | Vbitz might say here05:17
ubottuVbitz might say here: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI05:17
wilee-nileecmck193, Not sure you might ask in #vbox if no one knows here05:18
Vbitzwilee-nilee it's 32bit05:18
wilee-nileeVbitz, Right and if I had a definitive answer I would state it. ;)05:18
cmck193wilee-nilee: i see i can setup a filter with a port.  how would i find what port is what?05:19
wilee-nileecmck193, No idea, I have limited knowledge really05:19
HypnotiX!drivers05:19
wilee-nileenot just here lol05:19
casshern_should i try with ndiswrapper the driver of my wifi, for windows XP or Win705:19
wilee-nileecmck193, I think lsusb will name them though, not sure really.05:20
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HypnotiXhow do i updated my nvidia driver from the terminal05:21
HypnotiXsudo apt something nvidia-current ?05:21
vinodpaulhai05:24
vinodpaulwhat thehell05:24
wilee-nilee!language | vinodpaul05:24
ubottuvinodpaul: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.05:24
HypnotiXhttp://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html is this guide any good? :)05:25
vinodpaulsorry05:25
vinodpaulubuntu phone05:26
Vbitzafter doing some more research it does not look like ubuntu(or any other linux) is compatible with any clover trail devices right now05:26
vinodpaulpls redirect me to ubuntu phone05:26
kunjivinodpaul: You mean where to donate?  Or the irc chat or what?05:29
somsip!phone | vinodpaul05:29
ubottuvinodpaul: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch05:29
* Dr_willis waits for a actual device to be produced befor he gets excited about a ubuntu phone. ;)05:30
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fictionalhippowilee-nilee, are you on?05:31
kunjiDr_willis: need to put in some monies to get the device though, sort of a chicken and egg problem.  Though phone providers will be rolling out their own devices with it even if the crowdfunded hardware fails.05:32
Dr_williskunji,  that even seems weird.. if its to be a big 'ubuntu flagship' product - makes me wonder why  its not allready got funding from err.. canocal and so forth. but what do i know.. Im just a lowly consumer.05:32
mJaykIts not the ubuntu phone05:33
Dr_willisIm still waiting for the PiCade case to be avail for me to buy. ;)05:33
mJaykthey have ubuntu flagship phones05:33
mJaykthis is a trial device not a phone05:33
cmck193wilee-nilee: figured it out.05:33
Dr_willisill still belive it when i actually see the things produced.05:33
Dr_willisI have a whole closet of failed hardware 'gizmos' from over the years. :P05:33
cmck193wilee-nilee: run "VBoxManage list usbhost" in terminal and see what port you device is on, then create a usb filter with just that port number.  Love it05:33
clue_hlast time i looked they raised 6 million, not sure what it is now05:34
mJayk7 last night05:34
fictionalhippoOk, so if anyone is on i just need a quick answer. I've installed ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-common and ndisgtk but now i can't seem to get to the System<Administration to get to the Windows Wireless Devices so i can get my usb wireless adapter to work. Any ideas?05:34
somsipclue_h: same. The average per day is not looking good to hit target, unless Shuttlworth dibs in for the missing amount05:34
kunjiDr_willis: Well, http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge there you go.  I know Ubuntu isn't broke, but I'm not sure they've got 32 million lying around either.  So the other Ubuntu phones that will come out are partnerships with phone manufacturers.05:34
cmck193just one more question:  how do i auto mount my local windows partition?05:34
Dr_williscmck193,  make a fstab entry for it usign the ntfs-3g filesystem05:35
MonkeyDust!fstab | cmck19305:35
ubottucmck193: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions05:35
Dr_willis!ntfs-3g | cmck19305:35
ubottucmck193: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:35
mJaykfictionalhippo: lsusb in terminal05:35
kunjiAnd if they don't hit the 32 mil you get your money back, so meh, seems ok05:35
clue_hthat would be unfortunate, i like the look of this edge05:36
clue_hspecs more so05:36
mJaykthe concept is amazing05:36
clue_hif it can connect to a monitor i can connect it to a mini projector ha05:37
kunjiI actually wasn't too impressed with the specs, also I'm not really clear on what I/O is available, it does need to function more or less as a desktop so... are they going with a special dock to expand I/O or something?05:37
mJaykclue_h: or even a big projector! ha05:38
cmck193thanks all.05:38
cmck193night05:38
mJaykkunji: the specs are not released yet ?05:38
clue_htrue indeed05:38
mJayk:)05:38
kunjimJayk: Some are, but not all05:38
fictionalhippomJayk, yeah i've done that and it shows that it is there it just wont connect. I Don't think the drivers were able to make it through so i downloaded those apps to try and move over the drivers from the installation disk that came with my wireless USB adapter05:38
Dr_willisintel has had that wireless->to a monitor  stuff for some time. and saw google has some chrome-cast dongle comming out..   but still its hard for that stuff to catch on it seems.05:38
mJaykfictionalhippo: try ip link show05:39
Dr_willisa Phone or pc or chromebook  with a chrome-cast dongle support.  would be handy for me.  Somthing to hope gets in the future of ubuntu.05:39
kunjiDr_willis: Archos43 that I've got actually has mini-HDMI out, only problem with that device is that it's pretty slow, but it also has host USB with an adapter, so I can use mouse and keyboard with it as well05:39
Dr_williskunji,  my latest hardware toy is a Raspberry Pi. :) so im going the cheap route in my hardware hobbies.05:40
fictionalhippodanny@fictionalhippo:~$ ip link show 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT      link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT qlen 1000     link/ether 78:ac:c0:c0:e9:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff05:41
kunjiDr_willis: got one of those too ^_^ it's nice, even XBMC 1080p video, just the GUI is kinda slow05:41
fictionalhippothats my result05:41
clue_hkunji, i have an archos, the problem is i cant put debian/ubuntu on it as it has no boot option05:41
mJaykAnyone have a windows phone / how do they sync media05:41
mJaykfictionalhippo: hard to tell with no formatting05:41
Dr_williskunji,  been testing out that Plex-pi disrto on mine lately.  also got xbian going, connecting to my ubuntu upnp server.05:41
mJaykfictionalhippo: so you have lothats ok you have wired yea i dont see it either05:41
kunjiclue_h: I think you can get the boot option, but I, and least to get Angstrom running, not sure if anyone has gotten Ubuntu running on it05:42
Dr_willisIt is very nice the advances that upnp has made  in the last few years.. ;)05:42
HypnotiXIn what directory should i extract a software? :)05:42
Dr_willisHypnotiX,  totally depends on what it is.. and who its for05:42
HypnotiXits a text editor for me :)05:42
fictionalhippomJayk, would you possibly have an email i can send it to?05:42
Dr_willisHypnotiX,  stuff for your user, could bekept in their user home.05:42
Dr_willisHypnotiX,  no need to move it elsewhere system wide.. unless you wnat all users to access it05:43
clue_hi'll just keep trying,05:43
HypnotiXalright thanx05:43
nithinhow can i write a script which shows "good morning " message when the system gets started05:43
mJaykfictionalhippo: its ok your right it lists only lo and eth0 as network devcies05:43
kunjiSee, this looks good though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h384z7Ph0gU&list=UUJ65UG_WgFa_O_odbiBWZoA  ... but when is this hardware coming, and how much will it cost -_-05:44
fictionalhippoYeah thats what is making this difficult, but when i do lsusb it shows that is connected to the usb.05:44
mJaykso it just doesnt recognise it as a network device05:45
mJaykfictionalhippo: what is the name of the usb stick ?05:45
gogogadgetcan anyone recomond a twitter ncurces application?05:45
danny4wayI need help with Wine.05:45
fictionalhippo050d:110a Belkin Components05:45
danny4wayI was trying to install windows program. But it seems it installed it well but it's having trouble with starting up.05:45
fictionalhippoits a wireless usb adapter since i don't have access to an ethernet cord in my room.05:45
mJaykfictionalhippo: do you have the windows drivers ?05:46
gogogadgetHello, can anyone recomond a twitter ncurces application for a low resources computer?05:46
sam113101what's a twitter application?05:46
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gogogadgetsam113101: a twitter client that works in console05:47
fictionalhippoi've got the drivers for it on the install disk. I can see the drivers themselves when i insert the disk and open the files05:47
mJaykfictionalhippo: gdgd05:47
danny4wayAnyone?05:47
danny4wayI need help with Wine05:47
mJaykfictionalhippo: try this sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk05:48
kunjidanny4way: Might have better luck in the WINE IRC channel, it's a pretty specific area05:48
||arifaXdanny4way: more info05:48
||arifaXdanny4way: what about the programs name?05:48
danny4way| |arifaX, Okay basically I am trying to install Microsoft office 200705:48
mJaykdanny4way: use play on linux05:49
mJaykdanny4way: installs perfectly05:49
danny4waymJayk, Is play like wine that installs windows program?05:49
fictionalhippoOk mJayk, it says it installed fine05:49
danny4wayOr is it microsoft office like program?05:49
mJaykdanny4way: you tel it what you are installing and it sets wine up for that program05:50
||arifaXdanny4way: I can't remember exactly but I think it only works with the commercial wine05:50
danny4wayNow the problem with Wine is that it installs smoothly.05:50
mJaykfictionalhippo: ok now try ndiskgt05:50
danny4wayWhen i load up, it says Unhandled expection: assertion failed in 32-bit code05:50
Dr_willisMS Office in wine. Eww. ;)05:51
nithini am using ubuntu 12.04  OS. i am not able to connect to wifi ca any one help me05:51
fictionalhippomJayk, command not found...05:51
mJaykdanny4way: you prolly have some files that are not installed either clibs or crap05:51
tigrangAnyone know when LO 4.1 will come to ubuntu repos?05:51
Dr_willisdosent MS have some sort of online-office feature now?05:51
mJaykDr_willis: works through wine and yes :(05:51
mJaykfictionalhippo: you just installed ndisgtk yea05:52
Dr_willisabiword does all the word processing i need these days. ;)05:52
tigrangnithin: What happens?  Can you at least see networks?05:52
fictionalhippoyeah it didn't show any problems05:52
mJaykfictionalhippo: ok lets try to find it in the lens i think its in System > Administration > Windows Wireless devices05:52
mJaykfictionalhippo: we are just trying to run the program you just installed05:52
mattwj2002hi guys05:53
clue_hI'm happy to wait a few years for morrowind to be fully ready05:53
mattwj2002I am running xubuntu it isn't bad05:53
petooHI05:53
mattwj2002:)05:53
mJaykfictionalhippo: that will load the windows .ini for your usb and tell ubuntu its a wireless devicve05:53
||arifaXdanny4way: winehq says it should work quite well. maybe you pick up a tutorial and follow it http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/how-to-install-microsoft-office-2007-in.html05:53
nithinyes i am using lenovo laptop i can able to connect to wired network but not for wifi05:53
petooHow to recover shift+deleted files/folders ?05:53
danny4wayThank you05:53
fictionalhippook, now here's my next question. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04, how do i get to System > Administration > Windows Wireless Devices?05:54
Dr_willis!undelete | petoo05:54
ubottupetoo: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel05:54
tigrangnithin: Can you see wireless networks, but not connect? Or you cant see wireless networks at all?05:54
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mJayknithin: look for a program called "Additional Drivers" and run that, then select wireless drivers lenovo are proprietary05:54
||arifaXdanny4way: maybe this is better for you: http://www.unixmen.com/install-ms-office2007-on-ubuntu-using-playonlinux/ using playonlinux05:55
petooDr_willis, I am using extundelete and it asks me to first dismount the drive I am using right now. Is it possible at all?05:55
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amyassinDr_willis: Is there a list of shortcuts for bots somewhere?05:55
Helpme123456789hello could someone tell me if I am screwed05:55
tigrangHelpme123456789: you're screwed05:55
Helpme123456789I just typed apt-get remove wine 1.6 in term05:55
Helpme123456789and I am watching everything uninstall05:55
mJaykfictionalhippo: press windows key and type system05:55
Dr_willispetoo,  you want to unmount the filesystem asap. and work from a live cd. to have the best chance of success.. even then.. its may not be a very big chance.05:55
Helpme123456789every program on the computer is being uninstalled05:56
Dr_willisHelpme123456789,  whts the exact command you used?05:56
Helpme123456789apt-get remove wine 1.605:56
fictionalhippoall that comes up is system settings, system log, and system monitor.05:56
fictionalhippomJayk, ^05:56
nithininitially it will not displays the wireless networks available, but if i mention the name of wifi connection available it will starts searching for that connection at that time i can able to see the name of the connection05:56
Dr_willisHelpme123456789,  err. the package name dosent have a space in it as far as i know.05:56
mJaykfictionalhippo: go to system settings05:56
Helpme123456789yhea05:56
Helpme123456789I know05:57
danny4way| |arifaX, Thank you05:57
fictionalhippook im there05:57
Helpme123456789but its to late05:57
Dr_willisso i dont even see how it did anything  with '1.6'   being an invalid package name05:57
tigrangHelpme123456789: can't you stop it and re-install whats its uninstalling05:57
Helpme123456789tryed ctrl c05:57
Helpme123456789did not stop05:57
danny4wayBut I've got other windows program to install too. Because I was a windows user. And I just moved to Ubuntu a few months ago since it's summer break.05:57
Helpme123456789it just uninstalled everything05:57
Helpme123456789all icons05:57
Helpme123456789all apps05:57
danny4wayMy school is gonna be open soon so I need all those windows program.05:57
Dr_willisHelpme123456789,  ctrl-c should definatly stop. and i dont see how it even ran being an invalid command.05:57
Helpme123456789console stopped at configring virtualbox05:58
danny4wayExample: I tried to install iTunes a few days ago because I need to update my iPhone but it shows the same thing about 32 bit problem05:58
Helpme123456789it might be a bug idk05:58
Helpme123456789but it should not have uninstalled everything05:58
MonkeyDustbrb05:58
tigrangHelpme123456789: I cant tried it, and yea I get an error, its not uninstalling everything lol05:58
tigrangI just tried it*05:58
tigrangHelpme123456789: try re-installing what it uninstalled, if not, you can back up ur files and re-install05:59
fictionalhippomJayk, i was searching all through the system setting earlier trying to find it but came up with nothing. Hopefully you can.05:59
mJaykfictionalhippo: bugger i made a spelling mistake06:00
mJaykfictionalhippo: try ndisgtk06:00
mJaykfictionalhippo: in console06:00
mJaykyou may need to run it as root06:01
fictionalhippook mJayk, so i have it pulled up.06:02
mJaykyou get the window?06:02
Helpme123456789its still running ctrl_C is not stoping it06:02
Helpme123456789i want to see the command I put in06:02
mJaykfictionalhippo: ok now i thin k you need to go to insert new driver06:02
Helpme123456789is there another key to stop the term06:03
mJaykfictionalhippo: then locate the .inf file on the install cd, im not sure which .inf file there may be 2 or 3 but you should beable to work out which one i.e. 32 or 64 bit etc06:03
Helpme123456789before it uninstalls firefox06:03
Helpme123456789lol06:03
aeon-ltdHelpme123456789: uninstalling firefox is no biggie06:03
mJaykHelpme123456789: try sudo killall terminal ? :p06:03
aeon-ltdjust reinstall it06:03
kunjiI wouldn't stop it06:03
Helpme123456789its uninstalling the term06:03
Helpme123456789LOL06:03
Helpme123456789there went crome06:04
Helpme123456789there went the unity menu06:04
clue_hyou're saving disk space.06:04
Helpme123456789D:06:04
* Dr_willis waits for it to remove his irc client.06:04
Dr_willissince i couldent get it to repeate the problem either.06:04
mJaykfictionalhippo: any luck ?06:04
Helpme123456789xchat is gone06:04
kunjiMight as well let it finish, then install it all again.  You don't want your packages in an inconsistent state, which could very well happen if you kill the process.06:05
Helpme123456789im using webchat in firefox06:05
Helpme123456789ok its done06:06
fictionalhippook mJayk, so i didn't get any errors and just for saftey i tried to install it a second time and it says driver is already installed. Only, im still not getting any wireless activity.06:06
Helpme123456789I up arrowed the last command I typed06:06
Helpme123456789http://pastebin.com/LypVXNAf06:06
clue_hHelpme123456789, now check /var/log/apt and see what happened06:07
mJaykfictionalhippo: ok now (you may need to restart) try ip link show again06:07
mJaykfictionalhippo: it should come up with number 3 now06:07
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dexhello guys06:09
BalrothAllo all06:09
mJaykhaya dex Balroth06:09
fictionalhippook mJayk, im gonna restart it and try the command because it's still not showing it. It'll be a few minutes.06:09
mJaykfictionalhippo: sure06:09
BalrothHas anyone done VimADventure?06:10
dwanehello, everyone... does this channel provide any tech support?  =)06:11
mJaykdwane: it attepts to :)06:11
Dr_willisonly to those that ask support related questions.06:11
BalrothWe try to dwane06:11
dwanei'm having an issue with totem-audio-preview06:11
kunjidwane: That the one where it plays sound when you mouse-over the file?06:12
maxiPad3gsrunnin 13.04 desktop on a thinkpad. cant get conky to run at startup. it said that it added it to startup menu during the setup on the terminal/. but i have to ad it manually to startup applications? what is the command for the command box and what should i name it? How to get conky to start up at login? i didi already add it to startup applications with command "conky" but nothing.06:13
dwanenormally when i hover over an audio icon i can hear it played, but now it doesn't -- the sound preferences show totem-audio preview opening/playing the file but the mute checkbox is selected06:13
Dr_willisThat  'feature' has scared the snot out of more then 1 people i know kuji  ;)06:13
kunjiDr_willis: I thought it disappeared by now, no?06:14
dwaneso how do i unselect the mute option?06:14
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  the conky faq mentions adding a little script to run it in your ~/.config/autostart (or was it autorun) directory06:14
Dr_williskunji,  i thought it had been removed also.06:14
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  basically the script  sleeps for like 30 sec, then runs conky.06:14
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  seen examples of this at the conky faq/docs and on askubuntu.com  Im not onmy ubuntu box to pastebin mine.06:15
kunjidwane: I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, I also need to sleep.  You should probably give full details and someone else will probably be able to help.06:15
fictionalhippoalright mJayk, so that didnt seem to work. Im still getting the same message when i enter ip link show and there is still no wireless activity.06:15
mJaykfictionalhippo: ok i found this while you were away06:16
mJaykfictionalhippo: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Main_Page06:16
mJaykfictionalhippo: see if you can find your wireless usb thing on there06:16
mJaykitll tell you what .inf file to use and if other people have had sucess06:16
caf4926*really ndiswrapper is a last resort06:17
beyondcrBack had to boot off live disc I was just here under the Helpme... username06:17
hdonhi all :) i have an interesting one for everyone... if i find my computer's clock is 24 hours behind, how can i begin to track down "when" this happened?06:17
maxiPad3gsuntil i get this figured out, can i just manually run conky from the terminal each time i start up? how to do that? just type conky in terminal from @myname? and then can i close the terminal window becaue when i do that it warns me that a script is still running but when i close it anyway conky still continues to run until logout?06:17
caf4926hdon: so instead of 6pm is says 6pm06:18
hdoncaf4926, ha, yes06:18
mJaykcaf4926: its quite common for usb wireless adapts06:18
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  the command is 'conky' correct...  if you want to use conky, you really should go to the conky homepage and read some of its docs.06:18
* hdon is glad he doesn't have to ndiswrapper anymore06:18
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  run 'conky' then 'exit' at the terminal06:18
caf4926mJayk: did you find the id of the chip it uses06:19
maxiPad3gsDr_willis: i have all last night and today. my new policy is to never waste your time until i have crawled the forums. i am just a hopeless noob is all06:19
Just1nReally, Conky was just taking up resources and making my screens do weird things when I used to use it about a year ago.  I don't know if it's better now.06:19
mJaykcaf4926: i assume thats what is being looked up atm :)06:19
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  i think the conky faq was rather exacting in how to make that startup script.06:19
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  its a 3 line script.. #!/bin/bash     sleep 30    conky     (if i recall)06:20
beyondcrhere is whats in apt history.log06:20
maxiPad3gsDr_willis: let me go back and re read it all then thank you.06:20
caf4926*wireless USB devices are so cheap it's easier just to get one that works IMO06:20
beyondcrhttp://pastebin.com/xS3i8GWW06:20
beyondcrwhy would it remove all that just by putting apt-get remove wine 1.606:20
Dr_willisgetting conky started should be easy.. getting it configured how you like.. .thats harder.06:20
mJaykcaf4926: i dont really think thats the point :) someone has already purchased the hardware and just want it to work06:20
beyondcrok so I was not looking06:21
beyondcrwhen I pressed y and enter06:21
beyondcrwas just thinking it was wine till it was to late06:21
caf4926mJayk: work, fair enough but with some half baked windows .inf from a near obsolete OS06:22
beyondcrbut even still if you do apt-get remove 1.6 it wants to remove just about everything06:22
mJaykcaf4926: work correct06:22
maxiPad3gsDr_willis: you are talking about the source forge faq page right? i am going to go over this agin and hopefully get it thanks06:22
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  i just recall going to the actual conky homepage with like 10000 examples.. been using conky for literally years now..  (decades?)   every so often theres a resuragnce of people what want to play with it. thenit dies down. then comes back06:23
beyondcrand having wine installed did not let it get to the error unable to locate package it thought i wanted to remove both things?06:23
maxiPad3gsok got it thanks im out.06:23
Dr_willismaxiPad3gs,  there should be some guides and config tools for it on the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites also06:23
maxiPad3gsokty06:24
Dr_willisbeyondcr,  sudo apt-get remove 1.6 seems to a 'wildcard'  everything it asks to remove here has '1.6' in its name06:24
Dr_willis1.6 is a 'regular experssion' for 1(pattern)606:25
beyondcrDr_willis: why would it remove nautilus and network-manager and others that donot say 1.606:26
Dr_willisbeyondcr,  for example 'sudo apt-get remove lib.' will as to remove everything with lib in its name06:26
Dr_willis1.6 also matches 16 and 111121244216 and a lot of other patterns06:26
Questcan anyone tell me please how to dim down an image in krita?06:26
beyondcrinteresting06:26
Dr_willisso the lesson is.. be CAREFULL with wildcards. ;)06:26
Dr_williswell 'regular expressions'06:27
Dr_willisand for the record.. apt-get does support tab completion06:27
beyondcryeah lol I think I learned a little from this one.06:27
beyondcrwell i might aswell reinstall now06:27
Dr_willisHmmm saw THIS interesting message for apt-get..06:27
beyondcrthanks for the time Dr_willis06:27
Dr_willis'you are abut to do somthing potentially harmfull'06:28
Dr_willisto continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'06:28
Dr_willisthat was at the end of the 'apt-get remove lib.' example06:28
beyondcrjust caught me off guard because I had installed wine from unofficial repos and could not remember the version I wanted to reinstall the offical version06:30
beyondcrjust need to stop saying yes to stuff so quickly06:31
Dr_willissudo apt-get remove wine<tab>06:32
Dr_willis;)06:32
beyondcryhea for some reason the tab auto complete is not doing anything06:32
Dr_willismake sure thers no space after the wine06:33
Dr_willis>hic<06:33
beyondcrauto tab works fine with file names and cd06:33
beyondcrjust not doing anything in apt06:33
aeon-ltdbeyondcr: double tap?06:34
Dr_williswell night all.06:34
beyondcrwhats a good program to test auto tab on live disc06:34
aeon-ltdautocomplete tab?06:35
beyondcryhea06:35
fictionalhippook mJayk, sorry about the wait but i found one that is similar to it. The only one closest to mine is the F9L1101v1 mine is F9L1101v2. Do you think it could still be compatable?06:35
aeon-ltdanything, firefox?06:35
beyondcryhea its not working06:35
aeon-ltdbeyondcr: uptime? uname?06:36
beyondcri can type apt-g and press tab and it completes06:36
beyondcrbut anything after that it dose nothing06:36
beyondcrwho knows maybe it needs to be updated06:37
N4SSOcould it be that you have an alias set? type 'alias' to get a list.06:38
MunimI am using ubuntu 13.04 and eclipse ide for java keplar.. it keeps slowing down after starting till it becomes unusable.. Can anyone point out what could be wrong?06:40
beyondcron live disc going to hop off to backup some files before I get owned06:40
Munimand it gives some reindexing error06:40
mJaykfictionalhippo: Id give it ago its a shame really as im not to sure to be honest06:42
mJaykfictionalhippo: was the .inf in the location that they mentioned on that site for that card?06:43
fictionalhippomJayk: I didn't look, let me check real fast.06:43
punkmexichello06:44
punkmexicis there a way06:44
mJaykpunkmexic: highway ?06:44
punkmexicthe operators put this link on topic http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge06:44
punkmexicubuntu edge can be a great phone only if we support it06:45
punkmexicit will be a shame if the goal is not reached :(06:45
punkmexici feel is not gonna be reached06:45
fictionalhippomJayk: So i went ahead and removed the drivers and tried to reinstall them and this is the erro i got. "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found." What should i do?06:49
mJaykfictionalhippo: you did that via the same method as before ?06:49
fictionalhippomJayk: yep. is there something i need to install?06:50
mJaykno you installed taht06:50
mJayki believe06:50
fictionalhippoim so confused lol06:51
mJaykfictionalhippo: you tried to uninstall it via ndisgtk yes06:51
fictionalhippomJayk: yeah06:52
mJaykfictionalhippo: have you tried the configure network button inside that program ?06:52
fictionalhippomJayk: yeah i tried configuring it and it only shows the ethernet connection.06:53
mJayk:( im not to sure what to do either then im sorry either try posting on http://ubuntu-discourse.org/06:54
mJaykor wait around in here some1 else may know more than me06:54
A1ReconI uninstalled Chrome from Ubuntu using sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-stable  . Do I need to do something else to remove any other files remaining??06:54
petooHi06:55
petoo!recovery06:56
ubottuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"06:56
petooWhat was the link to recover files and folders?06:57
petoo!recover files06:57
bazhang!undelete | petoo06:57
ubottupetoo: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel06:57
petoothanks06:57
bazhang!ppa-purge | A1Recon06:57
ubottuA1Recon: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html06:57
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BlitzHereHi all, I need some pointers. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 off of a USB stick that I created using UNetBootin. I also made reserved 9999MB as I need it to save data after each reboot. Basically I need it to behave sort of like puppy linux.07:05
BlitzHereIProblem is, no data is saved after each reboot....07:05
mJaykBlitzHere: you enabled persistance ?07:07
BlitzHereI made the bootable stick using Lubuntu 13.04, and I have two partitions on the USB stick. A 11.44 GB ext4 partition and a 3 GB swap partition07:07
wilee-nileeBlitzHere, You need it persistent unetbootin offers that, or you can make a partition and name it casper-rw for a persistent bigger than 4 gigs offered by unetbootin07:07
BlitzHereI did07:07
A1Reconbazhang: Cant i use sudo apt-get autoremove ?07:07
bazhangA1Recon, install ppa-purge and run it07:08
wilee-nileeBlitzHere, the iso needs only one gig, a swap is optional.07:08
BlitzHere<mJayk> wilee-nilee : I did. Made it 9999MB and I used ext4 to get past the 4gig limit07:09
wilee-nileeBlitzHere, How did you make the persistent?07:09
BlitzHere11.44 GB ext4 partition and a 3 GB swap partition on 16 GB stick07:09
BlitzHerewilee-nilee: Space to save data across reboots option in UnetBootIn. The space you can reserve is listed in MB and goes upto 9999. However FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit. So, I made an ext4 partition in the usb stick and got the full 9999MB07:11
BlitzHereIt boots fine, and I have a casper-rw 10GB in size but data wasn't preserved.07:12
BlitzHereWas ext4 a mistake?07:12
Coburnno, you're doing it wrong07:13
Coburn:P07:13
CoburnI believe there's an option inside Ubuntu to make a bootable USB07:13
Coburnso you can boot from the Live Image and then use the USB wizard07:13
wilee-nileeBlitzHere, Been awhile sinnce I did this but the iso should be on a small partition like 1 gig a separate partition for the casper-rw and the sap is optional, but honestly with 16 gigs I would do a full install.07:13
somandmesg prints something about bluetooth http://paste.kde.org/p68828f6c/50819631/ (from line 783). What does it mean? Is here something for bluetooth used and how can I disable it if I don't use bluetooth?07:14
Coburnsoman: nothing to be concerned, means the bluetooth subsystems have been initialized07:15
Coburnalso means bluetooth is supported on the kernel07:15
BlitzHereCoburn, wilee-nilee: I'm running the live image right now. should I make another live DVD/USB stick and try to Install on to the 16 GB USB flash drive?07:16
Coburnyeah07:16
Coburnthe thing is, do the full install on the USB07:16
CoburnGRUB is smart enough to find the root FS on the USB stick07:16
Coburnyour speed may vary07:17
wilee-nileeI would do a full install, has to be a manual install, and pointbe sure grub is pointed to the usb's mbr07:17
somanCoburn: thanks07:17
Coburnno prob soman07:17
wilee-nileeI would not say grub is smart enough, the something other manual install might default grub to the usb;s mbr I would just make sure.07:18
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Guest42577Hey guys, I left my computer up from yesterday, when I logged in to my ubuntu 13.04 I found that every thing running slowly, I thought ubuntu would never do that, Is there any explanation why do this happen and how to fix it?07:23
murgero_hello07:23
murgero_I am in need of some help07:23
dattashantihGuest42577: top07:23
wilee-nileeGuest42577, Run top in the terminal and see whats eating the cpu and gpu07:24
murgero_Anyone have any idea on porting ubuntu touch?07:24
wilee-nilee!touch | murosai_07:24
ubottumurosai_: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch07:24
wilee-nileemurgero_^^^^^^^^^07:25
RayWizardwhat is the default way to hibernate in ubuntu? i messed up system a bit, when hibernating it has "s2disk saving snapshot" and stuff log, but i when i boot, while it prints that it restores image it actualy boots to empty desktop07:25
RayWizardhow to resinstall default way of hibernation as default07:26
KuroshitaAm I able to remove icons from the systray? For example, Tomahawk is in the tray when open by default but I don't want it to.07:26
wilee-nileeKuroshita, Tray in what desktop?07:27
Kuroshitaunity07:27
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dattashantihKuroshita: you used to be able to do it in dconf-editor07:27
wilee-nileeKuroshita, You mean the panel on the left?07:27
Kuroshitaon the right at the top07:27
wilee-nileedconf may be it07:27
Kuroshitait's ugly and not mono so I want to hide it07:28
bitamy mouse click every 2-3 second.please help me?07:28
wilee-nileebita, Do you have another mouse to see if it is that mouse?07:28
bitai change the mouse.it's software07:28
bazhang!details | bita07:29
ubottubita: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:29
dattashantihKuroshita: there is a systray-whitelist07:29
dattashantihKuroshita: under desktop->unity->panel07:29
Kuroshitaoh neat, where? dattashantih07:29
Kuroshitasweet thanks I'll give it a go07:29
wilee-nileeKuroshita, What release is it?07:31
wilee-nileeI just see this is why I ask. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/unity-notification-area-systray.html07:31
Kuroshitawilee-nilee, 13.0407:31
Guest42577dattashantih, wilee-nilee , java takes about 25% and firefox about 14%07:31
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Kuroshitadattashantih, I can't find the option in 13.0407:32
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wilee-nileeKuroshita, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/unity-notification-area-systray.html07:32
Guest42577dattashantih, wilee-nilee , how to order the rows according to mem usage07:32
bitabazhang: my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same07:32
dattashantihKuroshita: they may have removed it, i haven't used unity in a while07:32
odinsbaneCan I upgrade ubuntu but keep the same ssh keys?07:32
odinsbaneSorry, not just upgrade but a full reinstall.07:33
dattashantihodinsbane: just  backup .ssh/id*07:33
bitaubottu:my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same07:33
ubottubita: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:33
Kuroshitawilee-nilee, oh right, tomahawk is qt so I suppose I should be asking how to remove appindicators, or I suppose I could remove the sni-qt package07:34
odinsbanedattashantih: so as long as I keep the save private/public key pairs it should be ok?07:34
DuncanNZwhy are there 3 floodbots?07:35
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wilee-nileeKuroshita, Not sure of a plan of action myself07:35
wilee-nileeDuncanNZ, Becasue 4 was to many.07:35
wilee-nilee;)07:35
dattashantihodinsbane: yeah, unless you want to also keep your known_hosts and authorized_keys07:35
DuncanNZwilee-nilee: lol but is there an actual reason for more than one?07:35
wilee-nileeDuncanNZ, Probably just a backup plan so they are always running07:36
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dattashantihGuest42577: type ? in top, it differes between the distros07:36
MonkeyDustDuncanNZ  in case there's a netsplit and a floodbot should be cut off from the network07:37
odinsbanedattashantih: no, it is mainly so that I can keep access to a remote server that requires public key authorization. The guy running the server is hard to get ahold of if I need to change public keys.07:37
DuncanNZwilee-nilee: ah yes, by whois-ing them all they all come from different locations07:37
DuncanNZMonkeyDust: oh, ok makes sense now. thanks07:37
Kuroshitawilee-nilee, yeah I removed the sni-qt package, nothing is having a fit. I'm ok with this07:37
wilee-nileeKuroshita, excellent in the voice of Mr Burns07:38
dattashantihodinsbane: then you should be fine with the just the key pair07:38
bitamy mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same.i changed mouse and change destktop to unity(now gnome) but nothing changed.07:38
dattashantihodinsbane: just make sure it is from the correct user, if you have more than one07:38
bitaplz help me07:39
ffioi have created lfs and i want to add ubuntu installer to it, how can i do it ?07:39
TheJHNZCould I get some of you to answer my survey please? http://goo.gl/vgIRWo07:41
bitabazhang: my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same.i changed mouse and change destktop to unity(now gnome) but nothing changed.07:41
ikoniaTheJHNZ: we don't do surveys/polls in the channel07:41
TheJHNZSorry ! Didnt know07:41
ikoniaTheJHNZ: not a problem07:41
ikoniaTheJHNZ: I'd advise caution against spamming it in other channels as you are doing now07:42
TheJHNZWas just posting it in a couple :)07:42
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justaguyy07:56
justaguyyo07:56
dattashantihhello07:57
justaguyall that quits and joins07:59
justaguyxd07:59
DJonesThats normal for this channel, you can hide them in your IRC client if you want07:59
q_Hello07:59
justaguywell freenode is huge08:00
q_Can I ask something?08:00
blazemore!ask | q_08:00
ubottuq_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:00
justaguy:D08:01
Lunar_LanderUhello, got a question on harddrive permissions: I got a second drive in my PC now and I had to go to drive manager, format it with ext3 and then also had to tick "Become Owner of this drive"08:01
Lunar_LanderUdo I have to do this every time?08:01
Lunar_LanderUi.e. what if the prime drive crashes and I have to get a new one?08:01
Lunar_LanderUI wouldn't want to format the second drive08:02
ikoniayou don't need to touch the second drive08:02
Lunar_LanderUyeah but when I first installed it, ubuntu saw the drive, but it refused to copy to it at first08:02
Lunar_LanderUit said "you are not the owner"08:02
ikoniaLunar_LanderU: you are the owner now, so it's fine08:02
Lunar_LanderUyeah08:03
q_I've installed ruby, rvm, ruby gems, and tried to install rails.It seems to be installed, but when i open new terminal window and type rails, terminal says that rails is not installed08:03
Lunar_LanderUwhat I meant is if the main drive crashes and the second then is some sort of backup08:03
ikoniaq_: how did you install rails ?08:03
q_gem08:03
q_gem install rails08:03
ikoniaLunar_LanderU: the second drive is not a backup08:03
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Lunar_LanderUok08:03
ikoniaq_: there you go then, that is not the ubuntu package manager, that is internal to ruby08:03
Lunar_LanderUso if the first drive malfunctions, the second one is lost?08:04
ikoniaLunar_LanderU: no the second one is just that a second drive, containing whatever data you put on it08:04
Lunar_LanderUyea08:04
odinsbaneq_: did you have to use sudo when you did gem install rails?08:04
q_nope i didnt08:05
q_should i?08:05
odinsbaneq_: no.08:05
odinsbaneq_: It probably installed it to a local directory, if you add it to your path you should be able to use rails.08:05
q_please say me how to add it to PATH08:06
odinsbaneq_: If you do not know how to add it to your path you might want to use the ubuntu package manager. IE apt-get install rails08:06
q_Thanks a lot for helping!08:07
q_Bye08:07
maxiPad3gsi have just noticed that the "unity-scope-gdr" is very active on my desktop in the background like all the time. is this normal?08:08
kike__hi, does anybody knows how to open regular torrent files with anomos??08:10
MonkeyDustkike__  ubuntu has deluge and transmission08:10
q_You was right, problem was with path.I edited .bashrc and it seems to be working08:12
q_Thanks!08:12
maxiPad3gsi fixed my problem with Conky by startup applications command conky -p 30. giving it a 30 second wait time. and then the blinking screen fix was editing the .conkyrc file to "own_window no" from "yes"08:13
Lunar_LanderUthanks again ikonia08:13
justaguyubuntu + laptops = pain in the ass08:17
ikoniajustaguy: don't need random comments08:17
MonkeyDustjustaguy  works fine here08:17
justaguyI had alot off problems with my wlan and my LAN , my cd-drive and my USB ports08:18
justaguyBut, once you have it working , it's great :D08:18
Amunere00x0108:21
justaguyit works very good to be honest08:22
ikoniaright, so your earlier comment was just nonsense08:23
justaguyikonio : Yes but it was kind off frustrating to get it working08:25
TantorHello. I am installing a private cloud with MAAS. Now I have a problem on one node, on the screen keeps coming this error: bmc-config:1625 map pfn expected mapping type uncached-minus for 8f669000-8f66a000, got write back. And after a while the node will just shutdown. On the webinterface the node does show up as 'ready'08:29
TantorI searched on google, but I can't find anything about this error08:29
justaguy"Have you tried switching it on and off" oww wait this is #ubuntu :d08:29
ikoniajustaguy: stop now08:30
ikoniajustaguy: if you can't help someone - don't speak, stop making silly comments please.08:30
justaguylets catch some sleep i'm making non sense comments when i'm tired08:30
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echevemasterTantor: you did an update of BMC firmware?08:35
echevemasterTantor: what's the out of the lpmi service?08:39
echevemasterCan be a hardware or firmware issue, or the driver doesn't charged in the kernel08:39
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blazemoreWhen you run Skype for the first time, it pops up a GUI asking you to accept the Terms of Use. Is there any way to accept these terms from the command line, so I can use Finch with Skype on my headless server?08:44
ikoniablazemore: no, I beleive its gui driven only08:44
blazemoreikonia: I wonder if I copied my Skype directory from the desktop if it'd work08:45
echevemasterblazemore: afaik, skype doesn't have a cli interface08:46
echevemasterFinch only is the cli version of pidgin08:48
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metxashi every brody08:49
dattashantihhello08:50
FleaFlickerallo08:50
lasersblazemore: http://wiki.bitlbee.org/HowtoSkype -- Somewhat relevant. It is possible that you still have to run the Skype (GUI) on headless server(?). :o08:50
blazemoreThanks lasers - I should have guessed bitlbee would be easier to find resources for than Finch08:51
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[[thufir]]how do you install dns?  I'm not running a server..08:53
blazemore!details | [[thufir]] What are you trying to achieve08:54
ubottu[[thufir]] What are you trying to achieve: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:54
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hack13not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am having issues with a new installation of ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit on one of my dedicated servers.09:01
DJoneshack13: This loks like the right place, feel free to explain the problem here, or if its Ubuntu server you could also ask in #ubuntu-server (which a server specific channel, but will have less people in)09:03
dazzleI have eth0 and eth1 (integrated & pci-e). Normally only eth0 is in use. When I plug in eth1, everything starts to go through that interface - and I don't want this. I want to use eth0 for it. I want to use eth1 specifically to be a bridged adapter to Virtualbox. How do I do this?09:06
[[thufir]]blazemore: I don't want to use the DNS from my ISP, but an "open" dns installed locally.09:06
nxishi09:07
blazemore[[thufir]]: You can change your DNS settings in network manager09:08
blazemore[[thufir]]: Do you already have your local DNS set up?09:08
[[thufir]]no, I don't have local dns.  that's what I was trying to ask.09:08
blazemoreWhat have you tried?09:08
[[thufir]]I didn't know the term.  I looked through apt-cache, but don't want a server.  I'll google local dns.09:08
blazemoreYou do want a server09:09
[[thufir]]oh, ok.09:09
blazemoreBut it depends what you want to achieve from this09:09
[[thufir]]I only want to do lookup (www.whatever to ip address) because I think my ISP does it crummy (I think)09:09
blazemoreIt will have to look up from your ISP at some point09:10
* [[thufir]] thinks09:10
solarshey, can anyone suggest a lightweight email client (graphical)? I'm getting tired of this huge thunderbird monster09:10
blazemoreIf you aren't happy using your ISP's servers why not use another open public DNS server like Google or OpenDNS09:10
blazemoresolars: Claws is lightweight09:10
ActionParsnip[[thufir]]: is this as a permanent seting, or just for one resolution now?09:11
[[thufir]]solars: probably you just need to not download everything.  it's the sync settings.09:11
ActionParsnipsolars: claws-mail09:11
[[thufir]]ActionParsnip: permanent.  I think I want opendns for local purposes.09:11
blazemore[[thufir]]: So change your DNS settings to use OpenDNS, you don't need to run a local caching DNS server, it's overkill09:11
* [[thufir]] goes off to look into opendsn.09:11
[[thufir]]thanks09:11
ActionParsnip[[thufir]]: you can use hosts to set the name to IP resolution if you want to force a certain IP09:12
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nxisI have a question regarding, which distro to choose for my EeePC900 netbook. I've already tried Lubuntu and very liked it, however lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS and 13.04 is quite buggy. Therefore I tried vanilla 12.04 Ubuntu, but it seems quite laggy on my netbook. Should I try xubuntu 12.04 or simply install another DE?09:13
blazemorenxis: Xubuntu is fairly lightweight09:13
ActionParsnipnxis: +1 for Xubuntu09:13
nxisok, then should I install from scratch or just add another DE?09:14
blazemorenxis: Or you could start with a Xubuntu base system, and install a super-lightweight window manager like Openbox (Similar to Crunchbang, a debian-based distro)09:14
nxisI've already tried awesome, and understood that i'm not yet ready for such environment =)09:14
blazemorenxis: If you don't need to stick with the Ubuntu route, Crunchbang is the best lightweight distro I've used09:15
blazemoreBut they provide instructions for how to add Crunchbang features to other distros too, so you could do that09:16
nxisand what about installing xubuntu? is there any differences between installing xubuntu from scratch, or adding corresponding packet via apt-get?09:17
blazemorenxis: You can install the "xubuntu-desktop" package09:18
nxiswouldn't there be some sort of conflicting applications (ubuntu/xubuntu)?09:19
FleaFlickeronly difference i could think of is support09:19
FleaFlickernah you can pick between the different desktops09:19
ActionParsnipnvyou can install the xfce4 package then log off and log in to the XFCE session in LightDM09:20
solarsblazemore, ActionParsnip mm but claws doesn't support html emails right? some partners only send html crap..09:20
ActionParsnipsolars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients09:21
ActionParsnipsolars: sylpheed maybe....09:21
arashHello , I have problems updating steam client on ubuntu 13.0409:22
solarsI'll have a look at that09:22
arashfatal error : steam needs to be online to update09:22
nxisbtw, what about kubuntu 12.04? it seems to be also more efficient than ubuntu with unity?09:23
nxisi never liked kde however =)09:24
nxisin fact I'm looking for something widely enough spread (as ubuntu), but not so ugly and slowly (as unity)09:25
FleaFlickerlxde is light weight, i'm running xfce on my chromebook along side chrome, works ok09:26
FleaFlickermouse support for laptops in xfce is terribad though09:27
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nxisyeah, i liked lxde, but it seems to have rather limited community: as I said before, 13.04 has too much issues, and 12.04 does not have lts09:28
FleaFlicker12.04 is lts09:28
blazemorelubuntu 12.04 isn;t, FleaFlicker09:29
FleaFlickeroh ic09:29
FleaFlickerhave you tried unity in 2d mode? maybe it's not so bad?09:30
nxisyes, but i did not notice any performance advantages09:31
nxisalso I prefer old style look'n'feel (like gnome 2)09:31
FleaFlickerhmm, maybe try linux mint then, or you can install cinnamon on unbuntu i believe09:32
nxisis there LTS in mint?09:33
arashIs there any fix ? :-( Im getting steam needs to be online to update09:33
FleaFlickernot 100% sure how they work, but i believe they track ubuntu, so it's possible09:33
FleaFlickerthought steam was only supported on 12.0409:34
FleaFlickerdont really pay attention to steam much09:34
jostHas someone had experience with NVIDIA fakeRAID? When rebuilding it in the BIOS tool, I regain control immediately, but the status of the array switches to "Rebuild". How and when is the real rebuild happening?09:36
FleaFlickerdoes fake RAID = software raid?09:38
nxiswell thanks for your answers. i think i will give a try to xubuntu.09:38
jostFleaFlicker: No, its a hybrid09:38
jostIts supported by the mainboard, but needs software support from the OS09:39
christianwhere is ubuntu 13.10 http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop09:40
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__sjhanyone know a quick command to get an interfaces current ipv4 address ONLY, for use elsewhere in a script, without chucking through a regex09:40
__sjh"ifconfig eth0 | awk 'BEGIN { FS = "\n"; RS = "" } { print $2 }' | sed -e 's/ .*addr://' -e 's/ .*//'"  is something i've found online but it seems a bit mental09:41
k1l_Guest18892: its not released yet. 13.10 means october 2013. for development support ask in #ubuntu+109:42
FleaFlickeruse hostname -I09:42
FleaFlickerthat's a capital i09:42
__sjhFleaFlicker, that shows a loopback09:43
__sjhah!09:43
FleaFlickernot lower case upper case09:43
FleaFlickerupper case shows ipv4 address09:43
__sjha simpler regex to take output to first space is clean enough there i think09:44
__sjhFleaFlicker, thx!09:45
FleaFlickeryour welcome09:45
zrtuioo i would like to hack ubuntu website09:52
zrtuioowhat i have to look for ?09:52
blazemore!ot | zrtuioo09:52
ubottuzrtuioo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:52
StarOnDHello I tried to do boot repair, here is the url that was output >> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5924657/, it is still now working, can someone have a look and help me ?09:59
ikoniaStarOnD: why did you do boot repair ?09:59
blazemore!details | StarOnD what problem are you having?09:59
ubottuStarOnD what problem are you having?: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:59
StarOnDikonia, I want a seperate copy of ubuntu 13.04 in addition to my current one,10:00
ikoniaStarOnD: so why did you do bootrepair ?10:00
StarOnDso I got a live cd , partitioned my disk which already has win + ubuntu 13, added an entry to 40_custom as advised on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux10:02
gregor_hey how can i be in 2 rooms at the same time in xchat ?10:02
StarOnDI wanted a seperate copy of ubuntu 1310:02
blazemoregregor_: just type /join #channel10:03
StarOnDhow can I easily have multiple OS's and add them to grub2 ?10:03
ikoniaStarOnD: I understand you want seperate copies, but that doesn't make sense why you are using bootrepair ?10:03
ikoniaStarOnD: boot repair fixes failed booting, that has nothing to do with wanting a seperate copy10:04
StarOnDon that page it tells me to edit 40_custom for grub2. when I did that, it gave me an error kernel needs to be loaded or something similar10:05
StarOnDso it needed bootrepair10:05
ikoniaStarOnD: you really shouldn't need boot repair10:06
ikoniaStarOnD: you've edited a file wrong - put it back to normal, verify it's working, then try again learning the mistake10:06
ikoniarather than just blindly firing a boot repair session at something that doesn't have a boot problem10:07
FleaFlickerthat 40_custom rule is for ubuntu 9.10, that's a bit stale10:07
ikoniaFleaFlicker: it's still valid in later versions as far as I can see10:07
FleaFlickerread the instructions10:08
flipper88_flR\eadt he man pages FleaFlicker10:08
FleaFlickerthose instructions are for if you have 9.10, clearly that is not the case10:09
ikoniaFleaFlicker: is the 40_custom rule not valid in later versions ?10:09
flipper88_fl9.10 was eoled i thought?10:09
FleaFlickerdoesn't matter, it's not valid in this case10:09
ikoniaFleaFlicker: explain how it's not valid ?10:10
ikoniaFleaFlicker: is the 40_custom grub option no longer valid ?10:10
flipper88_flIs there a way to emulate osx other than purchasing the software from Crapple10:10
FleaFlickerare you reading the posted instructions?10:10
ikoniaflipper88_fl: it's called "apple"10:10
ikoniaFleaFlicker: I'm not asking about the instructions, I'm asking if 40_custom is no longer valid ?10:11
ActionPa1snipflipper88_fl: Ive seen that there is a wine-like solution for OSX10:11
flipper88_flI know I ahaapen to be ravidlyanti apple and microfot10:11
ikoniaflipper88_fl: and no ther eis no ubuntu virtualization that will support mac os X10:11
flipper88_flI know I ahaapen to be ravidlyanti apple and microsot due to having been cheated out of several hundered USD by each enterprise10:12
ActionPa1snipflipper88_fl: are there mac specific apps?10:12
glickhi, whats the easiest way to install skype on 12.04?10:13
ikonia!skype | glick10:13
ubottuglick: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga10:13
ActionPa1snipflipper88_fl: why would you want to?10:14
flipper88_flI might just have tos ave my pennies and virtualize win7 or 8 so i can hAVE MS OFFICE 2K1010:14
glickthanks10:14
ikoniaflipper88_fl: do you have an ubuntu question ?10:14
ActionPa1snipflipper88_fl: does it not run in Wine?10:15
ActionPa1snipflipper88_fl: could use google docs / libreoffice instead10:15
iShotzFor some reason my computer randomlys logs me out when i'm using it, i'm xubuntu 13.0410:15
ActionPa1snipflipper88_fl: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/how-to-install-microsoft-office-suite-2010-in-ubuntu-12-04-using-wine-1-5/10:16
ActionPa1snipisbric: have you tested RAM health using Memtest86+ from Grub?10:16
iShotzSorry about that it logged me out again10:17
inerkickI am getting this error 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/5924745/'10:17
inerkickkindly help10:17
ActionPa1snipishotz: have you tested RAM health using Memtest86+ from Grub?10:18
ikoniainerkick: remove the file it's complaining about, re-run sudo apt-get update10:18
blazemoreinerkick: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*10:18
inerkickok will try10:19
glickwhen i run the add-architecture command i get the following error10:19
glickdpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture10:19
ActionPa1snipinerkick: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage10:19
blazemoreActionPa1snip: saving that one10:19
ikoniaglick: why are you adding an architecture,10:19
ActionPa1snipblazemore: its the synaptic fix broken packages commands in a handy script because I'm lazy10:20
ikoniaglick: you understand that risks that brings10:20
inerkickthans ActionPa1snip10:20
glickikonia, so i can install skype10:20
ikoniaglick: where does it tell you to do that ?10:20
glickikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype10:20
flipper88_flIs skype in the nonfree repos?10:20
ikoniaglick: so what's the command you are actually using10:21
ActionPa1snipblazemore: step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure10:21
glicksudo dpkg --add-architecture i38610:21
ikoniaglick: and the error you get ?10:21
glickdpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture10:21
ikoniaglick: please show me the output of "uname -a"10:21
inerkickI'm getting this errror now "http://paste.ubuntu.com/5924756/" ActionPa1snip ikonia blazemore10:22
glickikonia, Linux pluto 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:13:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux10:22
ikoniaglick: all looks fine10:22
blazemoreinerkick: You broke your sources.list file10:22
inerkickbrr.10:23
ikoniainerkick: look at the hostname10:23
inerkicki am getting an update for ubuntu 12.1010:23
ActionPa1snipinerkick: what is the output of:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit /etc/apt/resolv.conf10:23
inerkickI haven't done quite long time10:23
glickhmm when i do apt-get install skype it says i have unmet dependancies of skype-bin10:23
inerkickshould i give the full command ActionPa1snip10:23
ikoniainerkick: dists/.archive.ubuntu.com10:23
glicki thought apt-get would take care of dependancies for me10:23
ikoniainerkick: you can't have a / in a hostname10:23
ikoniaglick: something seems wrong here,10:23
glickyea ikonia10:24
glickim following the skype howto from ubuntu.com10:24
glickand it seems to not be working10:24
blazemoreglick: Try now sudo apt-get -f install10:24
glickblazemore, what does that do10:25
blazemoreglick: will install dependencies10:25
ikoniablazemore: not if he's not got the repos/arch enabled10:25
ikoniaI'm not convinced by those ubuntu instructions any more and their validity, i'll need to check them10:26
ActionPa1snipinerkick: sorry, pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list10:28
FleaFlickerreadin the man page says dpkg --foreign-architecture i386, not seeing anything about --add-architecture10:28
ActionPa1snipinerkick: just the URL created fro mthe command I gave is fine. Thanks10:29
OerHeksikonia, this --add-architecture is recommended on the tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype i understand why you are afraid of it.10:31
ikoniaOerHeks: it concerns me10:33
StarOnDis it initrd.gz or init.lz?10:33
ikoniaStarOnD: is what ?10:33
glickOerHeks, it doesnt seem to be working10:33
glickso its not much of a useful tutorial10:33
ikoniatop10:34
ikoniaoops10:34
StarOnDhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux, on this page for ubuntu 13.04 ,will we use initrd.lz?10:34
ikoniaStarOnD: it looks like a typo10:35
FleaFlickersubstitute sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 with sudo dpkg --foreign-architecture i38610:35
StarOnDit should be gz ?10:36
ikoniaStarOnD: why are you doing this ?10:37
StarOnDhow do we make  a similar menu entry for a different os ?10:37
ikoniaStarOnD: why are you not just doing a seperate install as you anted10:37
ikoniawanted10:37
StarOnDthat's what I am doing, installing 2 copies of ubuntu + some other linuces10:37
ikoniaStarOnD: the installed should detect the other OS's during the install10:38
StarOnDhow will I choose between them if I dont make a grub2 entry?10:38
StarOnDokay, how do I do a seperate install from inside linux ?10:39
vnc786hello all !! i am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and i want to know use of this /usr/share/dict/words  where i see lots of words how do i get meaning of this word10:39
ikoniaStarOnD: why from "inside linux" just do a standard install10:40
StarOnD dont havea usb or cd10:40
OinsI try to find out which smartcard reader (hardware) I have build in. I have a Dell Latitude E6400. Any clue how to find out which hardware is assembled?10:40
StarOnDokay, how do I go from one usb to 2nd usb ?10:40
StarOnDI dont have a cd10:40
blazemoreOins: lsusb or lspci10:41
blazemorevnc786: You will have to install a dictionary application from the Software Centre10:41
ikoniaStarOnD: how did you install the first one10:42
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StarOnDits been a long time , I forget10:43
StarOnDmaybe through windows ? I dont recall now , but now thatI have one ubuntu, I prefer this way10:45
N03LHelllo people, made the switch from UBUNTU to KUBUNTU a while ago, anyone know any musthave apps for this?10:45
ActionPa1snipN03L: depends on your needs10:45
vnc786blazemore: so that dictionary will use this path ? is there any command line option to get meaning of words..10:45
ActionPa1snipN03L: kubuntu-restricted-extras is a good one to add in10:46
blazemorevnc786: No, that dict is just a list of words10:46
blazemoreN03L: kTorrent for a torrent client10:46
AaruniUbuntu is giving me seriously low audio output. here is alsa info : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8eba5e8b0aac25910bda6260a02542173342c8c510:46
blazemoreAaruni: Install the application "pavucontrol" and run it; check all your volume levels10:46
ActionPa1snipAaruni: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels maxed?10:46
FleaFlickervnc786: you can use the command 'look' to use the dictionary10:47
AaruniActionPa1snip: all but master is maxed. master is at 66.10:48
FleaFlickerthey do not however provide definitions10:48
ActionPa1snipAaruni: crank it! :)10:48
FleaFlickerfor example, look cloud10:48
Aaruniblazemore: pavucontrol gives me the system sound that I have set, nothing more10:48
N03LActionPa1snip: Certainly looks useful, I'll look into that. Right now, I'm interested in apps that can help navigation and management more easier or organized etc.10:48
ikoniaStarOnD: pretty imporant to know, as if you did it through windows, that's a wubi install, and the instructions you are following is not valid10:49
TantorCould someone tell me if I should install the 64 bit or 32 bit edition on a computer with an AMD Athlon II X2 255 processor?10:49
AaruniActionPa1snip: still very low10:49
ikoniaTantor: is it a 64bit compatible processor ?10:49
N03Lblazemore: I seem to be having problems with Ktorrent, but I haven't bothered to fix it, will defs do that when I get the chance. Cheers for the reminder though.10:49
FleaFlickerdo your speakers have a manual volume control on them?10:49
TantorI don't know. How can I find out that?10:49
blazemoreTantor: If it supports 64 bit, use the 64 bit version10:49
vnc786FleaFlicker: yeah just ran that cmd then what is the use of all words coming on screen but not providing meaning Or is any other special use ?10:49
blazemorevnc786: For spellcheck mainly10:50
FleaFlickervnc786: no, they do not provide definitions, it's just a list of words10:50
ActionPa1snipN03L: organisation of what?10:50
Aaruni<FleaFlicker> do your speakers have a manual volume control on them? : its a laptop, no hardware switches10:50
ActionPa1snipAaruni: are there any bugs reported?10:51
AaruniActionPa1snip: no bugs, I think. see the alsainfo for yourself.10:51
FleaFlickerTantor: are you running windows right now?10:51
N03LActionPa1snip: files and stuff, dolphin is a pretty neat file manager, but if there's something that tops it in anyone's mind, I'll look into it.10:51
TantorNo, there was some very old version of fedora on this machine10:52
ikoniaTantor: it should support 64bit10:52
TantorOk, thanks10:52
PrufrockHi all10:52
ActionPa1snipN03L: images can be managed by shotwell etc, music can be managed by AMarok etc.....10:53
ActionPa1snipN03L: or digikam etc.10:54
D-Chymera1hi guys, I bought an external hard drive and want to use it to store and shutte data between computers. I'll be dealing with a lot of brain imaging data (so rather large files, ~10GB per file). What format would you recommend? I need it to a) allow large files b) be readable by windows/mac systems c) have FOSS recovery/repair tools (I've been having some nasty experiences with NTFS)10:55
AaruniActionPa1snip, blazemore : maybe if I say that I am comparing the output to windows which dualboots on the same machine, the problem makes more sense to you guys ?10:55
ActionPa1snipD-Chymera1: ntfs10:56
blazemoreAaruni: Maybe Windows controls some sort of hardware volume; try booting into Windows, setting the volume to full, and then boot back to Ubuntu10:56
Aaruniblazemore: tried that, didn't fix anything10:56
ActionPa1snipD-Chymera1: remember to use the safe removal feature in your OSes to make sure the storage is ok10:56
ActionPa1snipD-Chymera1: windows cannot access a great many file systems and is restricting your choices because it sucks10:57
AaruniActionPa1snip: AFAIK, OSX can't write onto NTFS, only read from there.10:57
ActionPa1snipAaruni: i see, weird10:57
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D-Chymera1ActionPa1snip: any other formats?10:57
AaruniD-Chymera1: maybe you can try exFAT10:58
ActionPa1sniphttp://www.macbreaker.com/2012/02/enable-write-for-ntfs-hard-drives-on.html10:58
ActionPa1snipD-Chymera1: again, windows is holding you back, FAT32 has a max file size of 4Gb10:58
ActionPa1snipD-Chymera1: exfat maybe, as Aaruni10:58
FleaFlickeryou can also get ext2 support for windows and mac10:59
ikoniabut it is very weak11:00
ikoniaand can often cause corruption11:00
Aarunican ubuntu use HFS+ filesystems ?11:01
FleaFlickercan read11:01
Aarunino write ?11:01
FleaFlickerdoesnt do well with writes11:01
bekksAaruni: R/O, but Windows cant even read HFS+11:01
FleaFlickervery limited support11:01
Aarunibekks: for windows there is HFSExplorer, but that's read only too.. windows is indeed holding D-Chymera1 back..11:01
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FleaFlickerpretty sure exfat is the only one to work on all three, however, the disk size may become an issue11:03
macramFleaFlicker: why?11:03
macramexFAT doesn't have a volume size limit, nor FAT3211:04
FleaFlickeri believe exfat is for flash devices11:04
FleaFlickerah ok11:04
macramFleaFlicker: yeah, but it's not because of the disk size. It's because it lacks journaling, and it supports large volumes and files >4GB11:04
macramNTFS wouldn't be efficient in a flash drive11:05
glick2wow, i tried linux mint and its not polished AT ALL11:06
glick2ubuntu is pretty polished as far as linux distros go11:07
glick2even though i dont personally like unity11:07
glick2i think its fine for my mothers pc11:07
Aaruniif D-Chymera1 is using huge files, is it safe to assume that it will be an external HDD, and not a flash drive ?11:07
FleaFlickerwhat don't you like about unity?11:07
glick2FleaFlicker, im just used to the traditional desktop11:08
bgardnerglick2: Did you have a support question?11:08
AaruniI really like Unity. minimalistic, yet efficient11:08
glick2bgardner, uhh not at this exact moment11:09
Aaruni!ot | glick211:09
ubottuglick2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:09
ffiowhat does this means " how do i create completely unattended install for ubuntu "11:10
ActionPa1snipffio: with all the options set so the install never stops as it has the answers to the questions it asks11:12
Aaruniffio: it means that you start the installer and it installs on its own, not asking you for any inputs like keyboard layout, language, time zone, account details, etc. all these values are read from a file, and the install does not need a user sitting in front of the machine to input the installer questions11:12
Aarunihence, unattended install.11:12
ffioAaruni: thanks now i understood, it was really simple lang good :)11:13
ffioActionPa1snip: thanks :)11:13
Aaruniffio: you're welcome11:13
ffio:)11:14
joako537Hello everyone11:15
Aarunihello joako53711:15
joako537Hi Aaruni :)11:17
Aaruniyou have a question ?11:17
AaruniI'm eager to help :)11:17
loldongsAS THE LORD STRUCK DOWN WITH MIGHTY POWER, HE SAID11:17
loldongs"INSTALL GENTOO"11:18
joako537Thanks for asking, Im just new to this IRC chat thing Im just experimenting with it11:18
cfhowlettloldongs, offtopic and SHOUTING.  clever.11:18
loldongsTHE NATION'S USE FLAGS BEGAN TO RUMBLE AND SHAKE IN HIS GLORY11:18
joako537like the networks and channels and stuff11:18
cfhowlett!ops|loldongs,11:18
ubottuloldongs,: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!11:18
sabgentonanybody know what package installs hexdump?11:19
ActionPa1snip!find hexdump11:19
ubottuFound: libdata-hexdumper-perl11:19
sabgentondpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which hexdump))11:19
sabgentonok11:19
ActionPa1snipsabgenton: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/libdata-hexdumper-perl/filelist11:20
sabgentonActionPa1snip: is there a command line tool that does that?11:20
sabgentonout of interest11:20
ActionPa1snip!info hexdump11:21
ubottuPackage hexdump does not exist in raring11:21
ActionPa1snip!info hd11:21
ubottuPackage hd does not exist in raring11:21
ActionPa1snipsabgenton: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:21
sabgentonIv got a a cut down version of 12.0411:22
ActionPa1snipsabgenton: what does the text say please11:22
sabgentonUbuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l11:23
ActionPa1snipsabgenton: seems to be in bsdmainutils package11:24
deploymentany routing wizards in here today?11:24
ActionPa1snipsabgenton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/592490011:24
ActionPa1snipdeployment: try in ##networking11:24
sabgentonthanks11:25
sabgentonso much for the chanel bot's help11:25
ActionPa1snipsabgenton: she is limited but very useful11:26
sabgentonyeah looks useful anyway11:26
occi just bought a netbook with 1000x600 resoluition, but the ubuntu live cd only shows 800x600 and no other option in display settings...... i have tried ubuntu on several other laptops and pcs and this is the first time it gets the native resolution wrong11:26
Aarunibye11:27
occis there an easy way to fix this?11:27
* sabgenton is happy haz hexdump11:27
ActionPa1snipocc: what video chip does it use?11:27
occaction, not sure... bit it is an asus with intel hardware11:28
ActionPa1snipocc: run:  sudo lshw -C display     what GPU are you using?11:28
occthat command returned: PCI (sysfs)11:29
occafter some other text which flicked too fast to see11:29
occoh wait more came up...11:30
kyletorpeythis may be a dumb question but is it possible to run a mail server on ubuntu on my desktop? or would i need a server for that?11:30
occAtom Processor d2xxx/n2xxx integrated graphics controller11:30
flipper88_flocc:  tr an lsoci |grep vga11:30
ActionPa1snipocc: yes, your PCI bus is slow11:30
ActionPa1snipocc: what GPU is it?11:30
Ben64kyletorpey: "can" and "should" are two different things. keep in mind many ISPs block mail servers11:31
ActionPa1snipocc: oh boy those are always hell11:31
occi dont know what gpu11:31
occok11:31
ActionPa1snipocc: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:31
kyletorpeyben64 did not know ISPs block those11:31
kyletorpeyben64 i guess my real question would be. would i still be able to get mail if my desktop was off?11:31
flipper88_flComcast is pretty leinant withn that kin=d of thing11:31
japanizedhello11:31
blazemorekyletorpey: no you wouldn't11:32
occcat /etc/issue, returns: ubuntu 12.04.2 lts  \n \111:32
Ben64kyletorpey: well, if the mail server isn't running how could you11:32
japanizedany JAVA programmer is here?11:32
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kyletorpeyben64 i mean would the mail eventually get to me once i turned my desktop on11:32
kyletorpeyben64 does it hang in limbo if the server is offline or does it just fail i guess11:32
ActionPa1snipocc: http://daily.siebler.eu/2012/06/ubuntu-12-04-driver-for-intel-cedarview-atom-n2000-und-d2000-serie/    may help11:32
Ben64kyletorpey: usually retries for a while11:33
kyletorpeyben64 how long is a while11:33
ActionPa1snipocc: you can use gedit instead of vi if you want, bit easier11:33
Ben64kyletorpey: the real answer to your question is no, get a real server11:34
ActionPa1snipocc: you will need gksudo instead of sudo for the commands you use gedit with11:34
kyletorpeyben64 haha ok thank you for cutting to the point11:34
occlooks like a lot of shit i have to configure11:34
occmaybe ill just move back to windows11:34
japanizedhi11:36
ActionPa1snipocc: your choice11:36
cfhowlettjapanized, greetings11:36
ActionPa1snipocc: its step by step, not hard at all11:36
* cfhowlett ... one of the 10 people you meet on a linux channel is "Screw this! I'm moving back to Winders!"11:37
ActionPa1snipits funny how people feel the need to broadcast the fact as well11:37
gordonjcpdo they still make Windows?11:38
cfhowlettActionPa1snip,  always reminds me of SouthPark "Screw you guys, I'm going home."11:38
ActionPa1snipgordonjcp: not XP :)11:38
MonkeyDustgordonjcp  for those 1/10 people11:38
gordonjcpI'm surprised it's hung on this long, tbh11:38
gordonjcpmind you I still run into MSDOS in production stuff from time to time11:38
gordonjcpVAXen too11:39
occhow long are the ubuntu forums going to be down for11:43
flipper88_flTry a post to linuxquestions.org occ11:43
ActionPa1snipocc: I'd ask in #ubuntuforums11:44
occwell the fix for my issue involves "compiling a kernel with experimental drivers" or something... but the page for it is on ubuntu forums which is down11:45
funktHi there I am using 12.04 and I have lost my date weather applet shutdown all from the right hand side of the top panel would anyone know how I can restore this?11:45
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ffiois their a guide or something to understand how upstart works ?11:46
blazemore!upstart | ffio11:47
ubottuffio: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/11:47
ffioblazemore: :)11:47
ActionPa1snipfunkt: try pressing ALT+F2 and run: unity --reset11:47
ActionPa1snipfunkt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168171/no-launcher-or-system-tray11:47
ActionPa1snipfunkt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136733/some-system-tray-icons-invisible-in-gnome-classic-12-0411:47
funktthat doesnt seem to work I am using gnome desktop?11:49
funktany ideas?11:49
TankadoHello, trying to use oprofile and i need a vmlinux file for my Ubuntu (Linux user 3.5.0-30-generic )  12.4 LTS anyone know how can i get one>? i find too many results in google and i was wondering if someone knows more specific answer, thanks11:51
ActionPa1snipfunkt: if you log off and on is it ok?11:51
LouwrensHello everybody!11:52
LouwrensI got a easy question (I think)11:53
BrynjolfWhat happened to pip in apt-get?11:53
cfhowlett!details|Louwrens,11:53
ubottuLouwrens,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:53
ActionPa1snip!info pip11:53
ubottuPackage pip does not exist in raring11:53
funktHi there no I have tried that too11:54
funktstill nothing :(11:54
FleaFlickerdid you install the weather applet from the gnome web site?11:55
LouwrensI installed the R-base ubuntu package from http://cran.xl-mirror.nl/bin/linux/ubuntu/precise/ and I want to know how it was configured,11:55
funktHi there does anyone know what the shutdown date time right hand corner is called?11:57
funktI can then try and look into google to try and reset it somehow11:58
funktis it launcher??11:58
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TantorDoes someone know how I can change the owner of a node in MAAS?12:07
TankadoHello, trying to use oprofile and i need a vmlinux file for my Ubuntu (Linux user 3.5.0-30-generic )  12.4 LTS anyone know how can i get one>? i find too many results in google and i was wondering if someone knows more specific answer, thanks12:07
flipper88_flAre the xubunbtu/ubuntu forums open to the public as of yet?12:10
blazemoreflipper88_fl: What does it say on ubuntuforums.com12:10
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blazemoreflipper88_fl: For me it says "Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance" - do you need that clarified for you?12:11
flipper88_flStill down for private testing by the staffers blazemore12:11
blazemoreflipper88_fl: I thnk you've answered your own question12:11
babinlonstonDid this one is right cronjob entry ?12:11
babinlonston*/1 * * * *     root    /bin/bash -l -c 'backup perform -t canvas_file_store_backups --config-file /home/sysadmin/Backup/config.rb --data-path /home/sysadmin/Backup/data/'12:11
babinlonstonim using cronjob for Root , Did this one is the proper entry to get automated for every minute ?12:11
jribbabinlonston: */1 is redundant12:12
flipper88_flNo wounder this channel has become  so popular12:12
babinlonstonthen for hourly backup how can i setup and is this one is right ? , cos now im not getting backup from this entry for every hour or every minute12:13
japanizedhi12:14
babinlonstonhttp://pastebin.com/fqw2FK3y12:14
jribbabinlonston: */1 is the same as just *12:14
japanizedi tried to upgrade Ubuntu12:14
japanizedbut i got the error message. I cannot solve.12:14
japanizedanybody can help me?12:14
jribbabinlonston: also, you might need to give the full path to "backup"12:14
blazemore!details | japanized12:15
ubottujapanized: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:15
jribjapanized: don't use enter to break up your messages and pastebin the error.  I have to leave, but someone else can help12:15
japanizedThird party sources disabled12:15
japanizedwhat is that?12:15
babinlonstonya this is the full path12:15
blazemorejapanized: That's not an error, it means that additonal repositories you added will be disabled for the upgrade to ensure compatiblty12:16
japanizedSome third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager.12:16
japanizedthis is full error message12:16
skramer__Hi everybody. I got a problem with my printer, SAMSUNG ML-1640 connected via USB. Whenever I turn on the PC, the printer is being deactivated. I always got to go to System Settings->Printer and activate it, otherwise the jobs remain in queue.12:17
GothPawanyone able to point me to some good documents on setting up/using my multi-function wifi printer as a scanner (Printer Portion works fine)/ Many Thanks12:17
skramer__How do I make the printer being active when the PC is turned on?12:18
blazemore!scanner | GothPaw12:18
ubottuGothPaw: Scanning software: simple-scan (GNOME), Gwenview (KDE), Xsane. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR12:18
GothPawThanks :)12:18
adacIn /etc/hosts I'm adding the following: "127.0.0.1       host.example.com" but when I try to resolve the IP of 'host.example.com' it is not 127.0.0.112:21
TantorDoes someone know how I can change the owner of a node in MAAS? I have allocated all my nodes, however juju is now complaining: Unexpected Error interacting with provider: 409 CONFLICT. That seems to mean that there are no nodes available and that I shouldn't have allocated some nodes to a user, so how can I undo that?12:21
werner_Hi anyone. I have a problem with WEBGui and Apache2. I got in /var/log/apport.logthe following error mesage: called for pid 9175, signal 11 - is_closing_session(): no DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in environment12:22
Nosophorusi'm not being able to upgrade my system and every time i try to do that, it offers me a partial upgrade12:23
Nosophorushow can i solve that?12:23
mumpitzelNosophorus: what is the output of apt-get dist-upgrade?12:24
adachm it seems that 'ping' does correctly resolve the hostname. 'host' command however does not.12:25
inerkickhi i am facing issue installing and setting virtualenvs http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925065/12:25
inerkickkindly help12:25
Nosophorusmumpitzel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925070/12:26
Nosophorusmumpitzel: when i go to Software Channels and uncheck all PPAs, the system does upgrade12:26
mumpitzelNosophorus: LC_ALL=C apt-get dist-upgrade12:27
blazemoreYou have a typo in your .bashrc file inerkick12:27
blazemoreinerkick: change "echpo" to "echo"12:27
Nosophorusmumpitzel: i'm upgrading my system right now, but in order to do that, i have to uncheck all PPAs in Software Channels12:27
Nosophorusmumpitzel: there is another problem too12:28
inerkickno I haven't used echo though blazemore12:28
Nosophorusmumpitzel: some PPAs are not upgrading at all12:28
mumpitzelNosophorus: I don't understand poruguese or whatever it is12:28
blazemoreinerkick: Please put your .bashrc file on http://paste.ubuntu.com12:28
mumpitzelso I asked you to provide english output12:28
Nosophorusmumpitzel: no problem. have you read my msgs above?12:29
inerkickoops sorry thanks blazemore12:29
inerkickYou are right12:29
mumpitzelNosophorus: have you read what i wrote?12:29
blazemoreI know I was right, inerkick , the error message was very clear :)12:29
inerkick:) thanks blazemore12:29
Nosophorusmumpitzel: yes, i can't do " LC_ALL=C apt-get dist-upgrade" because, right now, i'm upgrading my system. but, in order to do this, i have to uncheck all PPAs in Software Channels12:30
inerkickbut i can't install virtualenvwrapper , could you help me blazemore12:30
nzozhello, when i copy text from an application (kubuntu), and i close the application, i lose the content of the clipboard; is that normal, and is there a fix? thanks12:31
mumpitzelI cannot help with stuff I can't see or understand. come back when you can describe the problem and follow the instructions needed to get important information12:31
GothPawblazemore: thanks again for the link to the docs. scanner up and running in less than 10 min; PERFECT!12:31
inerkicksudo pip install virtualenvwrapper isn't working blazemore12:31
nebras01Hi12:33
nebras01need support12:33
Piciinerkick: Why not? What happens instead of the expected?12:34
inerkickhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5925110/ not able to install virutalwrapper, kindly help12:34
inerkickPici,12:34
BluesKajHey all12:34
Piciinerkick: That means its already installed.12:34
inerkickyes, Pici . But when I try for mkvirtualenv myfirstenv that doesn't show up the virtualwrapper12:35
nebras01has jst installed ubuntu twice , 12.04  on HP Envy 6 Dual boot with Windows 7.  Computer opens automatically windows 7 , and boot-repair-disk didn't work and asked me to enter command lines that didn't work12:35
Nosophorusmumpitzel: it's in english now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925113/12:35
inerkickI'm following this, http://www.rosslaird.com/blog/first-steps-with-mezzanine/ and I wasn't able to get virtualwrapper along side virtualenv12:36
Piciinerkick: did you add those lines to your .bashrc?12:36
inerkickyes12:37
inerkickPici,12:37
nebras01I have just installed ubuntu twice , 12.04  on HP Envy 6 Dual boot with Windows 7.  Computer opens automatically windows 7 , and boot-repair-disk didn't work and asked me to enter command lines that didn't work12:37
mercerhi12:37
mumpitzelnebras01: are you using ubuntu right now?12:38
Piciinerkick: can you pastebin your .bashrc file please?12:38
nebras01yes , on a liveUSB12:39
mumpitzelnebras01: are you using UEFI?12:39
mercerno12:39
nebras01yes12:39
mumpitzelnebras01: mount your ubuntu partition if it's not already. tell us where it is mounted when done12:39
inerkickhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5925123/ check this Pici12:40
nebras01sda512:40
blazemorenp GothPaw12:40
mumpitzelnebras01: it is not mounted on sda512:40
Piciinerkick: what does echo $WORKON_HOME say?12:41
nebras01mumpitzel: what do you mean ? what command should I enter ? (I am a total noob btw)12:41
mumpitzelnebras01: the mountpoint where your ubuntu installation is mounted12:42
jeevai am not able too connect to the router why12:43
MattHalltest12:43
mumpitzeljeeva: we cannot know unless you think we are psychic12:43
blazemore!details | jeeva12:44
ubottujeeva: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:44
nebras01mumpitzel : /dev/sda5 ; if I understood what you meant12:45
babueverestMeta-112:50
babueverestpart12:51
CatbuntuI think you meant /part12:51
ffioi have installed ubuntu-builder but when i am opening it, it doesnt start, even when i am starting it from terminal it doesn't displays any errors.12:51
blazemoreHow did you install it, ffio ?12:51
ffioblazemore: yeah installed it12:51
ffiosudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-builder12:52
blazemoreffio: What Ubuntu version are you using?12:52
ffioeven icon is getting displayed uunder applications.12:52
ffio13.0412:52
blazemore!info ubuntu-builder12:53
ubottuPackage ubuntu-builder does not exist in raring12:53
blazemoreffio: Is it from a PPA?12:53
ffioyes from ppa12:53
blazemoreAh OK, that's what I meant by how did you install it. Could you link the PPA you used?12:54
ffioon which version it's available in software center ?12:54
mumpitzelnebras01: /dev files are device files, not mountpoints /mnt is a mountpoint, / is a mountpoint12:54
ffioLTS ?12:54
nebras01norma;y the mount point is  /12:54
ffiosudo add-apt-repository ppa:f-muriana/ubuntu-builder12:55
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jeevai am trying to do diskless boot through network but i am not able to connect to the router in ubuntu 12.0412:55
PokerFaceHi all, i use Smuxi irc client but notifications are not working, no pop-up, no messaging indicator just nothing12:55
blazemoreAre you following a guide, jeeva ?12:57
blazemore!netboot | jeeva12:58
ubottujeeva: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate12:58
babueverestwhy is newer version of ubuntu slow?12:58
nebras01mumpitzel : sorry, now I understand. it should be  /media/b90afd74-118a-4951-bcf1-69a6ce3b127412:58
blazemoreThat's a loaded question babueverest - I don't think it is12:58
mumpitzelnebras01: awful mountpoint. almost impossible to write out12:58
blazemoreffio: try sudo ubuntu-builder12:59
groundzerohi there12:59
blazemoreffio: although it works for me - there's no output at all when yu run it from command line?12:59
groundzerocan anyone help me out?13:00
blazemore!anyone | groundzero13:00
ubottugroundzero: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.13:00
groundzerook13:00
nebras01well I installed everything automatically , thus I don't know what to do. Any sollutions ? I've run boot-repaor and it asked me to write sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sda5" dpkg--configure-a but it didn't work (no such file or directory)13:01
ffioblazemore: tried sudo too but no use..13:01
ffiono output when i am typing ubuntu-builder on terminal13:02
mumpitzelnebras01: give the exact output for the command you wrote13:02
blazemoreffio: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-builder13:02
groundzeroHow can I dictate and enable wifi on compaq presario cq60 running ubuntu 12.04?13:02
ffioblazemore: ok trying it out13:03
blazemore!wifi | groundzero13:03
ubottugroundzero: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:03
mumpitzelgroundzero: lspci -nn   so we know what wlan chip it is13:03
groundzeroI have tried things like rfkill13:03
nebras01chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/boot-sav/sda5: No such file or directory13:04
groundzeroI got that link, thanks13:04
babueverestme13:04
* babueverest 13:04
usr13nebras01: is "/mnt/boot-sav/sda5" correct?13:06
inerkicki didn't get Pici13:06
usr13nebras01: mount   #Will tell the story.13:06
groundzeroI have also run the comman lspci -nn but no dictate13:06
blazemoregroundzero: What do you mean by "dictate" in the context of wireless?13:07
nebras01well , I know for sure that's what was written in the boot-repair GUI. as for my partition , I don't know how to see if it's correct or not13:07
mumpitze1groundzero: dictate? lspci will output text. pastebin this text13:07
blazemoregroundzero: Please paste the results of running the command "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com, and put the resulting link in channel13:08
mumpitze1nebras01: even the command you gave that boot-repair told you to run was wrong. I very much doubt anything you wrote about is correct. which is why I wanted the actual command you wrote and its FULL output13:08
groundzerohere is the only relating to Ethernet. 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP77 Ethernet [10de:0760] (rev a2)13:08
blazemoregroundzero: Please paste the results of running the command "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com, and put the resulting link in channel13:08
groundzerook13:08
theahindleHowdy seem to be getting 'no space left on device' but I have lots of space, and my inodes are barely used also - any ideas?13:08
blazemoretheahindle:  Please paste the results of running the command "df -h" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com, and put the resulting link in channel13:09
nebras01mumpitzel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925205/ this has everything13:10
nebras01usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925205/ this is the mount result13:10
mumpitze1nebras01: you didn't write the command properly. dpkg--configure-a is NOT a valid command and you never got this from any ubuntu script13:11
groundzeroThere is nothing relating wireless ethernet13:11
blazemoregroundzero: Well I wouldn't know because I haven't seen the link yet13:12
groundzeroThere is nothing relating to wireless Ethernet13:12
mumpitze1nebras01: sudo chroot /media/b90afd74-118a-4951-bcf1-69a6ce3b1274  and then "dpkg --configure -a"  now how spaces are IMPORTANT13:12
mumpitze1groundzero: come back when you can paste the full output into a pastebin as you've been told repeatedly13:12
groundzeroI have already posted it13:12
mumpitze1groundzero: tell us the URL where you did that please13:12
usr13nebras01: From  (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925205/ ), we see that the mount point is /media/b90afd74-118a-4951-bcf1-69a6ce3b1274 (not /mnt/boot-sav/sda5)13:13
groundzeroAm really a new guy here13:13
blazemoregroundzero: Just copy and paste the result of running "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com - then copy and paste the URL back here13:14
mumpitze1groundzero: you put your output into paste.ubuntu.ncom and got a url like "paste.ubuntu.com/1234557". this URL we need with the long number at the end13:14
usr13groundzero: iwconfig    #What does that say?13:14
groundzerook, let complete the registration there. then I will get back to you. thanks13:15
blazemoreyou do not need to register there groundzero13:15
theahindleI actually think the 'no space left on device' is just python not being able to write into /tmp/ - I must have made it wrong13:15
usr13lspci | pastebinit   #And send resulting URL13:15
blazemoregroundzero: http://paste.ubuntu.com13:15
mumpitze1blazemore: it needs a long number at the end or it's worthless13:16
blazemorewhat mumpitze1 ?13:16
blazemoreI think you've got the wrong end of the stick13:16
mumpitze1blazemore: sorry. misread :)13:16
usr13groundzero: What are you registering for?13:16
mumpitze1usr13: if you ever tell people to use lspci, always tell them to run "lspci -nn". otherwise it's almost worthless13:17
willybilly0101All the audio cd's I write with k3b are bad, either do not work, either have a radio-like sound on the backgroud (with sound distorted). I convert flac to wav, on my computer they sound perfect (the wav's). any ideea? last log, http://codepad.org/h4j3RXSb13:17
willybilly0101oops13:17
usr13mumpitze1: Ok13:17
willybilly0101wrong chan13:17
willybilly0101but if anyone can help fine anyway :)13:17
nebras01mumpitzel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925226/ this is the result now13:17
blazemorewillybilly0101: Try burning at the slowest speed you can, and see if you get the same problem13:18
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groundzerosorry. I cant login to https://login.launchpad.net/13:18
mumpitze1nebras01: so you are using uefi after all13:18
usr13nebras01: You don't have to keep using the chroot command, once is enough.13:19
mumpitze1groundzero: there is no need to log in to anything. paste.ubuntu.com doesn't need any login13:19
mumpitze1usr13: not if he doesn't press enter after the chroot command13:19
nebras01mumpitzel : I said yes when you asked me :)13:19
willybilly0101blazemore, thanks, I will13:19
usr13mumpitze1: Oh yea, maybe he didn't do it the first time?13:19
groundzerook13:20
usr13mumpitze1: I'm not understanding those commands run-together like that.13:21
usr13mumpitze1: If you do it that way, does it mean that chroot only works for the one command?13:22
groundzerook. After pasting, am I to type the URL here.13:22
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blazemoregroundzero: Yes please so we can see what you have pasted13:22
groundzerook. Here is ithttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5925243/13:23
groundzerosorry. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925243/13:23
groundzeroI like I told you, there is no wireless info in the result13:24
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mumpitze1usr13: of course. what else?13:24
blazemoreOK thanks groundzero can you do the same for "lsusb"13:24
groundzerook13:24
nebras01mumpitzel : So what should I do now ?13:26
apple_hi13:26
groundzeroHi, Here is the result link. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925263/13:26
usr13mumpitze1: I didn't know that.  Thanks.  (Just never did it that way.)13:26
apple_can any body help me13:26
blazemore!anybody | apple_13:27
ubottuapple_: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.13:27
jemarkplease ask your question...13:27
groundzeroGuy, this is internal wifi chip13:27
mumpitze1nebras01: I dunno about UEFI booting due to lack of experience. which is why I asked you this at the beginning13:28
groundzeroIt is not external or usb13:28
blazemoregroundzero: One more time for "lshw -C network"13:28
apple_i m getting prblm in my wifi .. after updating the kernel 3.1013:28
groundzerook, thanks13:28
apple_it dosnt show my wifi interface13:28
mumpitze1groundzero: the only wireless anything you have is a 3G dongle. no wlan13:28
adamkgroundzero: It is not unusual for internal wifi to be USB.  However, no wifi chipset is showing up, USB or PCI.13:28
mumpitze1blazemore: why would it show there if it's not on the usb or pci bus?13:28
blazemoremumpitze1: I might have missed it13:29
adamkgroundzero: Does the wifi work in any other operating system?13:29
nebras01usr13 : any Idea ??13:29
groundzeroyes, on window$13:31
apple_heloo any suggestion for wifi prblm aftr updating the kernel with 3.1013:31
TauNeutrinoLinux From Scratch vs. Ubuntu13:31
TauNeutrinoGO !13:31
blazemore!best | TauNeutrino13:31
groundzeroHere is link of the last command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925277/13:31
ubottuTauNeutrino: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.13:31
ActionParsnipTauNeutrino: that is offtopic here, this is support13:31
usr13nebras01: What are you trying to do?  (What problem are you trying to solve?13:31
TauNeutrinowtf??13:32
ActionParsnipTauNeutrino: try in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu13:32
TauNeutrinoclub-ubuntu??13:32
TauNeutrinofree drinks??13:32
ActionParsnipTauNeutrino: yes13:32
ActionParsnipTauNeutrino: why not13:32
TauNeutrinolol13:32
TauNeutrinohm13:33
ActionParsnipTauNeutrino: this channel is for people with issues, not idle discussion about pros and cons of certain distros13:33
varunendragroundzero, is the system dual booting with windows 8?13:33
TauNeutrinois there a channel for that?13:33
AlHafoudhhi13:33
blazemoreTauNeutrino: Try #reddit-sysadmin they will argue for you13:33
philinuxTauNeutrino: #ubuntuforums is one13:33
TauNeutrinolike one channel which is dedicated to discuss what distro is the best ^^13:33
AlHafoudhhow should I configure both ipv4 and ipv6 address (static) on bridge interface br0 for example?13:33
ActionParsnipTauNeutrino: #ubuntu-offtopic you can have a nater about anything you want13:33
groundzerono window$ vi$ta13:33
TauNeutrinowell, good13:34
adamkgroundzero: What does the wirless device show up as in Windows?  (ie. how is it identified in Device Manager?)13:34
TauNeutrinocu :)13:34
groundzerobut the non sense just crashed after updating13:34
inerkickwant to install go programming13:34
inerkickkindly help13:34
inerkickon my ubuntu 12.1013:34
blazemoreinerkick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Go13:35
groundzeroWindow$ crashed after updating13:35
AlHafoudhif I configure it like this: https://gist.github.com/alhafoudh/6104335 only IPv6 connection is working13:35
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adamkgroundzero: So we have no way of knowing if the wifi hardware is even working at the present moment...13:35
blazemoregroundzero: Is there a hardware switch for your wifi which could be disabling it?13:36
usr13groundzero: MS Windows crashed after doing system updates to it?13:36
usr13blazemore: Even if the hardware switch were off, the device would still show up in the output of lspci13:36
varunendragroundzero, your wireless card is not being even detected by the OS. Either it is fried, or loose connect, or some static firmware issue while it was on Windows. Try resetting your BIOS.13:36
groundzeroI tried to repair but recovery DVD told me that its going to restore the laptop to default(pre-installed)  window$ system13:36
nebras01usr13 : I am trying to achieve Dual Boot between Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS and Windows 7 on a 64 UEFI Computer (Hp Envy 6). I have installed ubutnu alongside wndows in the installer but I can't boot , to my knowledge it's a problem with GRUB.13:37
blazemoregroundzero: Your s key is broken13:37
groundzeroThat means I will loss Ubuntu and Opensuse13:37
groundzerowhich key please13:37
blazemoregroundzero: Does it work in opensuse?13:37
adamkgroundzero: Is the wifi identified and usable in opensuse?13:37
groundzerono, not at all13:38
varunendragroundzero, you are using "$" in windows... not appreciated here, that's what blazemore meant by "broken"13:38
adamkgroundzero: Honestly, we have no reason to believe the hardware is fine, and every reason to believe that it's broken.13:38
usr13groundzero: Is this a laptop?13:38
groundzerook, sorry13:38
groundzeroBut I don like that os13:39
groundzeroyes13:39
usr13groundzero: And "Windows" is not enough, needs to be XP or Win8 or Win7 or Vista or....13:39
varunendragroundzero, just to make sure it is still working, you can backup your current installations using something like clonezilla, then restore windows and check if the wifi still works.13:39
groundzerohp compaq presario cq60-206us13:39
groundzeroHonestly, I worked with the pre-installed vista os13:40
varunendragroundzero, every device works before it gets fried ;)13:40
Johnny_Linuxgroundzero,  i had one of those, make sure its turned on in bios13:40
usr13groundzero: varunendra  If we do not see anything about it in the output of lspci, it is more-than-likely dead.13:40
groundzerook, bios13:41
usr13groundzero: You might pull the card out and put it back in again.13:41
groundzeroYou, I have talked of this but that means I will shutdown for bios13:42
usr13groundzero: (But shut down first.)13:42
varunendrausr13, I have witnessed at least one thread in the forums, where the user's internal (usb) card showed up on live cd, but not in the installed one. I could never figure out why or how.. :/13:42
randomaussietest13:42
groundzeroThe card is built-in13:42
Johnny_Linuxexactly13:42
nebras01usr13 : My computer is overheating. can you pease help me or I need to reboot to windows13:42
usr13varunendra: I've never seen that happen.13:42
usr13nebras01: I dont know the answer to your question.  Maybe someone else does.13:43
ActionParsnipnebras01: does the system have a make and model?13:43
varunendrausr13, neither did I, but the card worked fine with one driver, and not with the other one, not even visible in either lsusb or lshw..13:44
nebras01ActionParsnip : I don't think I understand , But it's an HP ENVY 6 with Windows 713:44
groundzeroIf I shutdown, I will loss you guys but no problem I have no other choice13:44
usr13varunendra: Yea, me neither. I dono.13:44
blazemoregroundzero: You can come back again13:44
groundzerogood bye but I will be back after checking the bios. Thanks a lot13:45
ActionParsnipnebras01: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see an Nvidia GPU and an Intel GPU?13:46
grzesagHi, I would like to use ssl-cert-check with server that runs multiple SSL domains? Is it possible? thanks for your help13:50
SuperBawlzHey, I am trying to set up a PPTP client connection into a site on my Ubuntu. Where do I start?13:54
ffioblazemore: still ubuntu-builder is not working13:54
zipzaphello13:54
zipzapil y a des francais ici ?13:55
ffioblazemore: which ubuntu version are you using ?13:55
blazemoreffio: Raring13:55
blazemore!fr | zipzap13:55
ubottuzipzap: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:55
zipzap!fr13:55
zipzapok tx13:56
ffiois it possible that i can have firefox as well as tor browser installed side by side ?13:56
ActionParsnipffio: sure13:56
Johnny_Linuxyes13:56
ffiogreat :)13:56
flipper88_flIMHO Chrome direct from google is the best darn browser on the market13:57
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ActionParsnipflipper88_fl: I use it because I'm lazy as it comes with flash :)13:58
ffiois their a guide or something to make my ubuntu installation secure ?13:58
usr13SuperLag: you mean pppoe?13:59
ActionParsnipffio: using Tor doesn't add security13:59
usr13!pppoe | SuperLag13:59
ubottuSuperLag: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE13:59
ActionParsnipffio: look into server hardening13:59
ffioActionParsnip: ok sir :)13:59
ffioActionParsnip: is their ubuntu documentation on that ?14:00
ffioyeah got it :)14:00
LongCatTHhow I can disable hotkey 'alt' to not trigger that annoy tab? ()14:01
geniiffio: There's a pretty decent guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security#Security_Tools14:01
usr13SuperLag: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml14:02
usr13SuperLag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient14:03
usr13LongCatTH: "tab"?14:03
joshuif I have xfreerdp on my path be default, e.g. /usr/bin/xfreerdp and I have another newer version in /top/freerdp/bin/xfreerdp. Why when I'm in the latter directory and I do ./xfreerdp do I execute the older version in /usr/bin ?14:04
LongCatTHI'm not sure what it is , if you using Unity then press 'alt'14:04
ffiothanks genii :)14:04
TantorAnyone here with experience with juju?14:05
TantorI can get charms, but when I do juju --deploy it keeps bugging me with an SSH key error14:05
IdleOneTantor: #juju is probably a better place to ask14:05
usr13LongCatTH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts14:06
TantorThanks14:06
IdleOnesure thing14:06
usr13!shortcut | LoganCloud14:06
ubottuLoganCloud: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://ubottu.com/y/shortcuts14:06
usr13!shortcut | LongCatTH14:06
ubottuLongCatTH: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://ubottu.com/y/shortcuts14:06
OerHeksLongCatTH, http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key14:07
LongCatTHyeah! that's right thanks you14:07
OerHeksNo hud, no fun :-(14:07
joshuI don't understand how being in a directory and executing the executable in that directory results in a different exec being run?!14:08
ActionParsnipjoshu: if there is a binary of the same name and you use ./name  then it will launch that binary and not the one in $PATH14:10
LongCatTHI'm using the 'alt'+'shift' keys to changes keyboard layout, I often accidentally  push that hud up :/14:10
joshuActionParsnip I've tried that but it for some reason is giving me the version of the older binary14:11
ActionParsnipjoshu: try referencing the binary absolutey, may help14:12
NuSueyoh hell, whats the difference between the "AMD Catalyst™ Proprietary Display Driver" and the "AMD Catalyst™ OpenGL Driver" ?14:12
MickSjoshu: are you sure about the version of the local copy? You can try to move the old one (/usr/bin) out of the way temporarily for test and see what executing the new local one gives you.14:12
joshuActionParsnip MickS going to test both suggestions now14:13
ffiois that true that after every new version of ubuntu is released when we upgrade there are lot's of breakages ?14:15
ffioif i am updating form ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10 ?14:15
ffioi would be running services like mysql and running web-servers..14:16
Piciffio: no.14:16
varunendraffio, not if you are using only default recommended packages.14:16
ffiovarunendra: where can i know about those default recommended packages ?14:16
Piciffio: If you're using the packages in our repositories, you shouldn't have problems.14:17
ffioPici: so i can easily migrate to the newer version without much of a prob ?14:17
ffioPici: ok :)14:17
ffiodefinitely i would be using all the packages from ubuntu repos.14:17
varunendraffio, breakage (possibly) occurs only if you are using third party packages (PPAs), or proprietary drivers.14:17
ffiovarunendra: ok :)14:18
Jhghello14:20
JoeSomebodyhi, it's really busy in ##linux, you guys are up on multimedia if anyone is so ... for basic user mm support, how many gstreamer does one put on sensibly? is most of them too many? the idea of "too many" affect windows a lot more i am sure, is there a "too many codecs" in linux even? :)14:22
k1lJoeSomebody: on ubuntu: install those codecs you need.14:24
talexbI'm trying to set up the automounter to take care of mounting my NFS share. It's not mounting. Are there logs somewhere that I can look at so that I can understand what's going on?14:24
JoeSomebodyi guess i am wondering why there so many, i probably wont really understand the answer anyway LOL14:25
ActionParsniptalexb: if you add a line in /etc/fstab you can define the mount, you can add a line in /etc/rc.local to make it mount as fstab is processed before the network comes up14:26
jemarktalexb: /var/log/messages14:26
talexbActionParsnip, Hmm .. OK, I could try that route instead.14:27
talexbjemark, Odd .. /var/log/messages doesn't exist.14:27
SuperLagusr13: say what?14:28
n80hi, i've got a weird bug related to ubuntu 13.04/skype/microsoft lifecam hd-5000. with the camera plugged in any notification sound is delayed a few seconds after the popup is shown, unplugged it's right as the popup is shown.14:29
gordonjcpJoeSomebody: just install the lot14:29
SuperLagusr13: you must have had me confused with someone else14:29
n80wish i could just not use skype(work related)14:29
n80found one thing on google mentioning something similar and it didn't really have a solution14:30
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ActionParsnipn80: do you see yourself in cheese?14:34
n80ActionParsnip: the camera works fine, microphone fine. only issue is the delay in notification/call sounds in skype.14:36
n80ActionParsnip: also, the light on the camera will blink 3-4 times prior while this delay is happening14:37
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joshuActionParsnip took a while to find out what I was doing wrong. It was the right way to run the binary, but the binary was not the one I should have copied from another system and thus the version happened to be the same as the one on the user path. Thanks14:45
ActionParsnipn80: are there any bugs reported?14:48
n80ActionParsnip: no, not that i could find14:51
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llrealmanlli wanna to install version 5:0.7.15-dmo1.this is my repositories:http://pastebin.mozilla.org/273782014:54
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ActionParsnipn80: i suggest you report a new bug14:57
ActionParsnipllrealmanll: mixing debian debs with ubuntu is not advised or supported and you will get a big mess14:58
n80ActionParsnip: alright, should i find some more information or are the versions and camera model sufficient in the bug report? where do i report the bug?14:58
ActionParsnipn80: the bug guys will ask for the info as needed :)14:58
ActionParsnipn80: i suggest you run:  ubuntu-bug skype   to start the process14:58
n80i get "Package skype does not exist" when running that15:00
n80ActionParsnip: sorry for being a noob :/15:00
joshuI can scan if I'm superuser and according to Brother's documentation by install this sudo dpkg -i --force-all brother-udev-rule-type1-1.0.0-1.all.deb I can scan as a normal user. However I installed, but I still need to be sudo for scanning to work. I found this https://github.com/afterdesign/nas-project#update-udev and uncommented those lines, but still not working.15:01
ActionParsnipn80: try:   ubuntu-bug cheese    then15:02
joshui don't know if there's a log file that shows what's wrong. I tried dmesg and syslog but can't see anything15:03
ActionParsnipjoshu: I've seen this, gimme a sec15:03
ActionParsnipjoshu: http://superuser.com/questions/298298/scanning-only-works-under-sudo-ubuntu15:04
xtal19update-rc.d -f ssh defaults 20 9015:04
xtal19what are the numbers pleas ?15:04
xtal19*please ?15:04
ActionParsnipjoshu: try adding your user to the saned group15:05
ActionParsnipxtal19: man update-rc.d15:05
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h22Guys, what do I do after editing the /etc/hosts file? Should I restart some daemon?15:10
geniih22: Changes to that file should take effect immediately, unless perhaps you're using some caching application like squid15:11
joshuActionParsnip so is that brother udev rule deb package useless?15:11
joshuActionParsnip https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b5575431e129b021c7b315:13
irssi-mikeTrying to gain some disk space and looking in synaptic i see this nexuiz-textures is about half a gig.. How do i find out if taking this out will ruin my box and should i apt-get purge?15:13
irssi-mike:)15:14
h22genii: I do I check if I'm using caching app?15:15
irssi-mikeoh oops, it's a game and i just clicked and it said it's a game, never mind15:15
h22genii: And If I am, How do I clear it?15:15
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akkaexit15:18
usr13h22: Are you using squid?15:20
geniih22: Since there are so many of them you could be using, the best test is just to do something like add: 8.8.8.8         dnstest        ...to /etc/hosts ( which is one of google's public dns servers) then do: sudo sync     .... then try: ping -c5 dnstest    ...to see if it works15:20
h22genii, usr13.. I did `service network-manager restart` and it works.15:21
ActionParsnipirssi-mike: its part of the nexuiz game, thats all. If you remove it the game wont work15:25
rhdeniswhoever hacked ubuntu forums is a tool.... whats the pont15:25
rhdenispoint15:25
ActionParsnipirssi-mike: I suggest you remove old unused kernels15:25
ActionParsniprhdenis: indeed15:25
Sirisian|WorkI want to get a second opinion. So if I have some executables installed in /root/bin and I want them to be accessed by everyone would I just run add /root/bin to /etc/environment's path variable?15:26
rhdenisi read that the russian hacker "Sputn1k_" who did it says he's not doing anything with the data, just proving a point.... what a tool15:27
ActionParsnipirssi-mike: bleachbit ran as root and user (with as many apps closed as possible) can clear temp files and logs. Watch settings that say they will take a long time and watch application settings r it will remove settings you want to keep15:27
Shadowandlighttrying to run sudo ./configure on mod_wsgi-3.4, but it errorts out with the following.... https://privatepaste.com/d35f56dc28 .... any ideas?15:27
ikoniaShadowandlight: you're missing apache components15:28
ikoniaShadowandlight: isn't there a pre-compiled version of this module15:28
ActionParsnipShadowandlight: why sudo for configure? also why are you using sudo when you are already root?15:28
ikoniawhy are you compiling as root more to the point15:28
Shadowandlightsorry just trying to follow a set of instructions15:28
ActionParsnipShadowandlight: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue15:28
ikoniaShadowandlight:if possible I'd advise you to back away from what you are doing15:28
Shadowandlightroot@ubuntu:/home/mod_wsgi-3.4# cat /etc/issue15:29
ShadowandlightUbuntu 13.04 \n \l15:29
Shadowandlightroot@ubuntu:/home/mod_wsgi-3.4#15:29
ActionParsnipShadowandlight: what are you trying to compile?15:29
ikoniaShadowandlight: the ubuntu package is called libapache2-mod-wsgi15:29
ActionParsnipikonia: thanks, saved me a job15:29
geniiHm, root@wherever15:29
ikoniaShadowandlight: there is no need to compile it15:29
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ActionParsnipShadowandlight: you do realize that sudo gives users root like access?15:30
rhdenisthose ubuntu forums help poor people all over the world for "free"..... this hackers better lay low...15:31
ikoniarhdenis: don't need any comment on it15:31
Shadowandlightyes i do, i was having permission errors installing a package last night so i ended up going into root to fix it15:31
ikoniaShadowandlight: if you have permissions problems as "sudo" you sohuld not become root15:32
ikoniaShadowandlight: sudo gives you all the permission root does15:32
ActionParsnipShadowandlight: so why are you using sudo, if you are already root? It doesn't make any sense....?15:32
Shadowandlightwell 1) i am extremely new to linux... 2) i dont really know what i am doing.. hence being here15:33
ikoniaeither way - drop out of your root shell, install the package I gave you and you won't need to compile anything15:33
ActionParsnipShadowandlight: you have been given a package name you can install to achieve what you need15:33
Shadowandlightsudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-wsgi - shows already installed?15:33
ikoniaShadowandlight: then it's already installed, job done15:33
Shadowandlightok15:34
irssi-mikeActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/1cTMX2S2 Can I get rid of the "-23" and "lts-quantal" and just keep "-36"15:34
rhdenishackers had a good rep, at least among the linux community... till now15:34
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ikoniarhdenis: are you unable to grasp that I've told you "no more comment is nessasary"15:34
ActionParsnipirssi-mike: you need the metapackage, just remove the -23 kernel, it'll save you about 110Mb space15:35
irssi-mikeActionParsnip: ty15:35
ActionParsnipirssi-mike: uninstall unused apps too, if you use webmail you can uninstall thunderbird, and so on15:36
ActionParsnipirssi-mike: a default Ubuntu install has a lot of fluff, some of which you won't use.15:37
irssi-mikeActionParsnip: thunderbird, on it15:38
mregg964Hi, on Raring, after a reboot, desktop icons suddenly appeared... and I can't hide them away, even with  Unity Tweak Tool. What's going on?15:39
ActionParsnipirssi-mike: stuff like that, emove the games if you don't use them15:39
irssi-mikeActionParsnip: I was looking at synaptic at packages not yet installed but most of it seemed small apt-get clean got me the space to burn a disc, i needed /tmp space apparenty15:40
__ravenMYTHTV DB too old: how to update db on 12.04 backend-server to be compatible with 13.04 frontend?15:40
esinghi15:40
usr13__raven: updatedb  ?15:41
esingI wanted to run the ubuntu 13.04 live usb on my laptop (sony vaio 13 pro) , but it is stuck on a black screen15:42
usr13__raven: .... but I don't know what the MYTHTV DB is.  Maybe different....15:42
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usr13__raven: (I've never run MYTHTV15:42
ikonia__raven: you need to check the versions15:42
ikonia__raven: client/server compatability does some times break with different vesions,15:43
ikoniausr13: it's a mysql database15:43
usr13O15:43
usr13!nomodeset | esing15:44
ubottuesing: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:44
esingubottu Thank you for the hint, I'll try that15:45
ubottuesing: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:45
esing^15:45
esingthanks usr1315:45
usr13NP15:45
* nhearn 15:46
nhearnhi, im looking for a little help.  forgive my ignorance as I am new to this IRC Chat15:47
blazemore!ask | nhearn15:48
ubottunhearn: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:48
__ravenikonia, usr13 mythtv runs with mysql. that would be one question: do i need to upgrade the mythtv-version or is it the mysql server itself?15:48
nhearnI have exhausted my googleing skills and come up with very little.  I am using a Radeon hd6450 graphics card wich has 1 analog and 2 digital (hdmi/dvi) outputs.  I am trying to get 2 screens to work at the same time.  but each time I plug in a second screen Ubuntu enters a loop telling me a new screen has been detected and keeps trying it at different refresh rates.  it hits the manufacture suggested refresh but then resets bac15:50
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ActionParsnipnhearn: tried a different cable?15:52
nhearnalso, anyone know how to get gparted status from terminal.  I was partitioning my hard drive when I plugged in the monitor, then it reset my displays and i inadvertedly selected a refresh rate my monitors dont support.  Now I am in console and running top to see if gparted is running, i can see it but I was wondering if there is any way to get its current job/status??15:53
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nhearnah, yes  different cables.15:53
ikonia__raven: it's the mythtv version15:53
ikonia__raven: it's not the actual mysql version15:54
__ravenikonia, i already did an upgrade via ppa but still no solution. ill try to purge and reconfigure15:55
ActionParsnipnhearn: or different port on the screen (if it has more than one)15:55
esingusr13 I added nomodeset to the boot parameters and I booted into the command line. So that's a little progress. I tried from the commandline 'startx', but that results in three errors: 1) file /home/ubuntu/.Xauthority does not exist  2) Fatal server error: no screens founds 3) unable to connect to X server : connection refused. Xinit: unepected signal 2.   And in /var/log/Xorg.0.log there is15:55
esingthis error "open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory" VESA(9): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range15:55
wilee-nileenhearn, run xrandr to see what does work then xrandr -s 1024x768  this resolution just shows an example15:56
esingusr13 My graphic card is intergrated haswell graphicard15:56
wilee-nileenhearn, then go from console to de, I assume you are in tty15:58
nhearni am15:59
wilee-nileenhearn, I think that may get you back to the de, not sure from a console.15:59
usr13esing: Is it a Desktop PC?16:00
nhearnxrandr said "Can't open display"16:00
adamus#xubuntu16:00
adamusjoin #xubuntu16:00
usr13nhearn: export DSIPLAY=:0.016:01
esingusr13 It's a laptop16:01
usr13esing: Make and model ____________   _____________?16:01
esingusr13 Sony vaio 13 pro16:01
Kat666Dudesad16:01
Kat666Dudecan anyone see me??16:01
wilee-nileeno16:01
nhearnhmmm, "cant open display :0.0"16:01
nhearnodd16:02
nhearnyes Kat16:02
blazemoreKat666Dude: I see your messages16:02
Kat666Dudeawesome! THanx Blazemore!! First time here :)16:02
usr13esing: https://spicious.com/sony-vaio-pro-11-with-ubuntu.html16:02
wilee-nileeadamus, /j #xubuntu16:03
DJSBXso.. last night I upgraded my packages (12.04.02 Server Edition) and now mysql isnt working16:04
DJSBXtried the whole purge, reinstall, reconfigure, etc16:04
DJSBXnothing seems to be working16:04
tmmunqmysqld? client? what do you mean 'not working'?16:04
DJSBXsorry16:04
DJSBXlet me get some output16:04
DJSBXinstalling it I should saw16:04
DJSBXsay*16:04
DJSBXhttps://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/1e03601f7af3f55804cb16:05
DJSBXI've been trying to find a solution for hours16:05
DJSBXapparently this seems to be a common thing16:05
DJSBXbut none of the solutions Ive found, actually work for me16:05
esingusr13 Thank you for the link!16:06
wilee-nilee!enter > DJSBX16:06
ubottuDJSBX, please see my private message16:06
esingusr13 If I understand his article correctly, then Dual efi boot isn't working yet with sony vaio pro?16:06
usr13DJSBX: Did you do "apt-get autoremove"?16:06
DJSBXyes16:06
blazemoreDJSBX: What happens when you run "sudo service mysql start" ?16:06
DJSBXblazemore: start: Job failed to start16:07
DJSBXyou can see in that gist, that it tries to run the upstart job for mysql and fails16:07
usr13DJSBX: "Job"?16:07
blazemoreDJSBX: Do you have anything in /var/log/mysql/error.log16:07
DJSBXusr13: thats what it said, verbatim16:07
usr13Ok16:07
tmmunqi think you have to run dpkg-reconfigure on the mysql-server package, you should get a curses program that lets you configure the mysql server16:07
DJSBXblazemore: file doesnt exist16:07
DJSBXtmmunq: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server is broken or not fully installed16:08
usr13DJSBX: What happened with apt-get autoremove ?16:08
tmmunqthen run it against mysql-server-5.5, 'mysql-server' sounds like a metapackage16:09
DJSBXtmmunq: same thing, except replace mysql-server with mysql-server-5.516:09
ActionParsnipDJSBX: can you stop mysql then install it?16:09
DJSBXmysql isnt running,16:09
usr13DJSBX: dpkg-reconfigure -a16:09
ibolmoI followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo but the mount -t nfs command stalls/stays stuck16:10
ibolmoi disabled firewall, and verified the setup. syslog isn't being helpful16:10
ibolmoany other debug tips?16:10
Lopemy sound output device was detected and working on my laptop last night. today its not detected. there is only a dummy output device... any ideas? is there some driver I can restart?16:11
DJSBXusr13: this is what happened when I did auto-remove. It asked me to enter a new root pw for mysql and then this shows up http://i.imgur.com/lQSOmXb.png16:11
DJSBXusr13: trying dpkg-reconfigure -a, but it's taking a bit of time16:11
ActionParsnipLope: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*16:13
ActionParsnipLope: wait 10 seconds and reboot16:13
usr13DJSBX: You said earlier that you did   apt-get purge something-or-other ?16:13
DJSBXusr13: https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/66232c871cab4acd86c316:14
DJSBXyeah I tried to purge, clean, autoremove, etc, all the mysql packages16:14
DJSBXand then try to reinstall them16:14
DJSBXbtu that didnt work either16:14
Sirisian|WorkSo I added /root/bin to the path variables in /etc/environment but when I restart my server I can't access any of the commands. when I echo $PATH I get "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games;/root/bin" what am I doing wrong?16:14
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tmmunqlooks like permission error16:17
usr13DJSBX: Re-Installing a package or package(s) is not a silver bullet, and sometimes it is the wrong thing to do.16:18
usr13DJSBX: It is often a better route to fix what you have.16:18
usr13DJones: I found this:  http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13046&start=21016:18
DJSBXusr13: the issue isnt my ps3mediaserver though.. :S..16:19
usr13I know.... but it is one issue.  (You seem to have several.)16:19
DJSBXit is?16:19
DJSBXI have no problem with my ps3mediaserver.. it works fine16:19
usr13DJSBX: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade16:20
joshuActionParsnip I've still not been able to sort out scanning as a normal user. I tried sudo adduser saned scanner and sudo adduser saned lp but nothing16:21
usr13DJSBX: I do not remember what you said was the outcome of  sudo apt-get autoremove16:21
DJSBXusr13: this is what happened when I did auto-remove. It asked me to enter a new root pw for mysql and then this shows up http://i.imgur.com/lQSOmXb.png16:22
usr13DJSBX: Ok.  Did  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  do anything?  Or did it error out?16:22
ibolmohas anyone had time out issues with nfs?16:22
DJSBXit did something with some other packages16:23
anoneepidof isn't working, is this normal in ubuntu?16:23
d[o_o]bna corn16:23
cornhello16:23
d[o_o]bez csati16:23
usr13DJSBX: Try  sudo apt-get autoremove again.16:23
d[o_o]bmit szolsz?16:23
cornszep16:23
d[o_o]bigy kellene kinezzen az underneten is vaegy magyar kozosseg16:23
DJSBXusr13: nothing happens. Just says there is nothing to remove16:23
cornigen16:24
ActionParsnipjoshu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/21757116:24
ubottuUbuntu bug 217571 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "xsane only scans as root" [Medium,Confirmed]16:24
usr13DJSBX: Try  sudo apt-get -f install16:25
ActionParsnip!hungarian | d[o_o]b16:25
ubottud[o_o]b: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál16:25
anoneeActionParsnip is it normal that pidof doesn't return anything in ubuntu?16:25
ActionParsnipanonee: if the process isnt runnning then yes, watch out for python apps which will be python and not the name of the app using it16:26
d[o_o]bActionParsnip: koszonom szepen16:26
cornmik ezek a dcc kuldesek?16:26
cornhmm16:26
usr13DJSBX: Is it working?16:27
DJonescorn: This channel is for Ubuntu support in English16:27
DJSBXusr13: one sec16:27
ActionParsnipanonee:  ps -ef| grep vlc | grep -v grep | awk {'print $2'}     is one way to do it using grep on ps output...16:28
usr13DJSBX: uptime   #What does it say?16:28
ActionParsnipanonee: thats the same as:   pidof vlc16:28
cornsorry ActionParsnip16:28
DJSBXusr13: Not too sure what reason that would be important, but... usr13: this is what happened when I did auto-remove. It asked me to enter a new root pw for mysql and then this shows up http://i.imgur.com/lQSOmXb.png16:29
DJSBXoops16:29
DJSBX11:29:01 up 5 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.41, 0.47, 0.2316:29
usr13DJSBX: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux*list  #Look at the last one on the list, compare to uname -r16:30
usr13DJSBX: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic   #What does that say?16:31
anoneeActionParsnip OMG thank you16:31
usr13DJSBX: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic*list   #What does that say?   #Correction16:31
anoneeActionParsnip I'll try to understand this command16:32
DJSBXusr13: well uname -r is 3.2.0-51-generic, and the last command you gave me gives me /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic.list16:33
usr13DJSBX: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux*list | pastebinit #Show us the list.16:34
DJSBXusr13: https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/1607a7f1f56fb890e17416:35
ghostnik11hi i am about to install the latest ubuntu and i want to know if i should select "encrypt the new ubuntu installation for security"16:35
Ironsight(is #ubuntu-offtopic broke? I tried to connect and nothing happens)16:35
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anoneeActionParsnip I tried to read man screen but I think I need someone to explain to me just what does screen do I didn't get it, I'm not a programmer.16:36
ghostnik11is it good to go with encrypt the new ubuntu installaiton for security?16:37
k1lIronsight: /join #ubuntu-offtopic16:37
Ironsightanonee: Screen is an app that is useful for people that remote login into their servers. It lets you run a program inside of it, and then when you logout, the process isn't lost. Then when you log back in, you can run screen and get back to what you were doing.16:37
ghostnik11or will i have this option later on if i don't choose it now during installation16:37
usr13DJSBX: I'm looking at https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/1e03601f7af3f55804cb and see "he following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic"  It appears that the package manager has some conflict there.  Maybe try removing some of the old kernels?  (Work from top to bottom https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/1607a7f1f56fb890e174  and maybe just leave the last two.16:37
usr13DJSBX: And you might even use purge16:38
usr13But I dono if it would make a difference.16:38
usr13And then do:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    (again).16:39
ghostnik11if i encrypt will i be able to install other linux OS's along side ubuntu16:39
KyubeyHi, I need some basic help.16:40
KyubeyI'm giving my old laptop to my sister and she wants a fresh install, but for some reason I can't get the usb to work.16:41
KyubeyThe computer already has Ubuntu 10.0416:41
KyubeyIs there something I'm doing wrong?16:41
cornbye16:42
corn:)16:42
Ironsightanonee: For instance, say you want to run a game server, and be able to control it remotely… say at work. You run run screen, which will pull up a terminal. You then start the game server from that terminal inside of screen. Then when you want to logout, you press a certain keyboard shortcut that logs you out of screen. You can then at work, login via ssh and load up screen and check that your server is still running.16:42
ghostnik11Kyubey: maybe your not tell the computer via bios which to select first either hdd or usb drive16:42
wilee-nileeKyubey, First will the computer boot from a usb, does the bios show it?16:42
DJSBXusr13: so, completely and utterly removed any mysql stuff whatsoever from the server. Tried a new install https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/23f1116ec5d6f2af69a1 same issues16:42
thiscantbegood--Has anyone seen this before when booting with a cd? -> http://ericmcaine.com/20130729_123808.jpeg16:43
KyubeyWhere can I see where the computer boots from?16:43
thiscantbegood--I wonder if it's a driver issue16:43
thiscantbegood---video16:43
wilee-nileethiscantbegood--, shows servive unavailable16:44
thiscantbegood--The link is bad?16:44
wilee-nileeKyubey, Can you get to the bios?16:44
thiscantbegood--...16:44
usr13DJSBX: "mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed"16:44
thiscantbegood--here http://oi43.tinypic.com/im01av.jpg16:45
Kyubeywilee-nilee: I don't know how.16:45
Savahello, can somebody help me, i need to make home folders of all the computers on a local network be accessible to all....16:45
wilee-nileethiscantbegood--, Showed in opera, hit f5 0r f6 I forget which in the first gui and choose nomodeset and continus boot16:45
ghostnik11Kyubey: you have to restart your computer and press f1 or f216:45
anoneeIronsight I installed deluge daemon, I don't need to use the box remotely but I need the app to start before i login, I followed the installation tutorial but I don't seem to understand what's going on, I added the init scripts "deluged.conf" and "deluge-web.conf" but the web interface is acting funny until I run this command $ screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web , and now with the help of this ps -ef | grep deluged | grep -v grep | awk {'print $2'} I f16:45
anoneeound out there are two instances of deluge-web and 2 deluged (which is the deluge daemon) running at the same time, which is not what I want :(16:45
thiscantbegood--thanks16:45
thiscantbegood--can you link me to that page16:46
ghostnik11Kyubey: then once in bios, you can look up boot sequence to find out what the bios is telling the computer to boot first16:46
DJSBXusr13: hmm I think I figured it out16:46
wilee-nileeKyubey, generally the power on splash tells you how to reach the bios and a boot from menu not in the bios.16:46
DJSBXand it's such a pissoff....16:46
Savathat is, the home folders of all users, the users are the same on every machine, be available to everyone no matter at which machine they log in16:47
wilee-nileethiscantbegood--, Use nicks, what page?16:47
thiscantbegood--I'm confused with your English sorry... so I press f5 or f6 when? http://oi43.tinypic.com/im01av.jpg16:47
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anoneeIronsight are you staying for about 30 min?16:47
IronsightOn and off16:48
Ironsight:)16:48
IronsightI'm at work, so...16:48
wilee-nileethiscantbegood--, When you boot the live cd/usb there is a page that says try or install or check the memory, not the exact words, unless you have loaded a usb with unetbootin, that screen is bypassed.16:48
Ironsightanonee: I am not great with startup scripts16:49
KyubeyI tried pressing both F1 anf F2, F1 does nothing and F2 flashes the ubuntu logo, but ends up in the normal logging in screen16:49
wilee-nileeKyubey, what is the computer model16:50
KyubeyAsus16:50
distilledchaosHello All. I foolhardedly tried to hibernate with an encrypted home disk.16:50
wilee-nileeKyubey, asus what that is the manufacturer16:50
KyubeyUL20A16:50
distilledchaosWhen I boot, the login screen is different16:50
distilledchaosAnd when I log in, it just sits there without a mouse16:50
wilee-nileeKyubey, I see on the web f2 start tapping that at powering on til you see the bios.16:51
distilledchaosWhere do I start looking for a solution to getting my system working again?16:51
distilledchaosI don't care about hibernate, I was just curious what it would do.16:52
distilledchaosBut I do need my computer working again.16:52
Kyubeywilee-nilee: I'll try that16:52
ryan___I have a fresh install of 12.04.  Everything was working OK until I accidentally tried to install edubuntu from software center.  Now the Application Search in the Unity dash is empty.  Can anyone help me to get it working again or let me know an alternative to launch applications?16:52
DJSBXfyi. If mysql insnt installing properly, it might be because /tmp has incorrect permissions <_<16:52
KyubeyHeyyy, BIOS!16:53
wilee-nileeKyubey, If that does not work here is my google search. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=asus+UL20A+reach+bios&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=fp32Uf6vO6aWigK0nYB416:53
wilee-nileeKyubey, Cool, put the usb first in the drive list, if you still get no boot there is another per-session boot from menu we cab use.16:54
KyubeyI got it. I have a feeling I had to do the same thing when I first installed Ubuntu.16:54
wilee-nileecan*16:54
puffinsup16:57
wilee-nileeryan___, Logout and choose the ubuntu desktop and see if that fixes this, and don't just install stuff without knowing.16:57
AnaxandridasHi, guys. Ubuntu 12.04 issue. Every time I put my computer in Suspend, when I open it back up later the screen repeatedly flashes, and computer is unresponsive. Screen is black, flashing white at rate of flashflash pause, flashflash pause, flashflash pause. Clicking, button pressing, nothing has result. Computer continues flashing until I turn it off.16:58
usr13DJSBX: ... or ownership ...16:58
usr13Anaxandridas: How much RAM do you have in this system?16:59
Anaxandridasusr13, I just tried to check and realised that I don't know how to see, in Ubuntu.17:01
AnaxandridasI bought the computer last week, and installed Ubuntu the day after. So... Don't know.17:01
usr13Anaxandridas: free17:01
AnaxandridasFree?17:01
usr13Anaxandridas: Or ls /proc/meminfo17:02
usr13Anaxandridas: Or cat /proc/meminfo17:02
usr13correction   ^^^^^17:02
KyubeyHa, now it works! thanks for help, everybody!17:02
usr13Anaxandridas: Open a terminal, type "free" (without quotes), hit enter.17:02
AnaxandridasI did... Not sure which is RAM. I'm... Not exactly a computer genius, sorry.17:03
usr13Anaxandridas: free | pastebinit  #Show us resulting URL17:03
Anaxandridashttp://pastebin.com/n93Neh90, usr13.17:04
AnaxandridasAnd thank you for your patience.17:04
oldude67cant do an update, says /boot  is too full, easiest way to fix that?17:04
oldude67dont say to install tweak tool it wont let me yet.17:05
oldude6713.0417:05
oldude67and please and thank you. for your time and paitence.17:05
oldude67or point me in the right direction please.17:06
usr13Anaxandridas: free   #Compare the first collum entry in the top row to one in the last row.17:06
usr13or bottom row17:06
Anaxandridas...17:07
usr13Anaxandridas: So that issue is eliminated.  (Swap is not too small.)17:07
AnaxandridasGlad you could tell that. I'm sorry I couldn't have been more use in the matter.17:08
AnaxandridasLike I said... Ubuntu noob.17:08
AnaxandridasSo, any other ideas?17:08
usr13Is it fully updated?17:09
usr13Anaxandridas: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade17:09
AnaxandridasRunning now. Though, I've updated since I got the computer, and I've always had the suspend issue.17:10
ghostnik11i want to install cinnamon desktop but there is no synaptic, i have the instructions for installing synaptic package manager but i want to know if cinnamon will get updates and be updated when i do sudo apt-get update17:10
c0nn3x0r_anybody home?17:11
AnaxandridasNo.17:11
wilee-nileec0nn3x0r_, 1500 people state your issue for help.17:12
AnaxandridasOk, usr13... Any other "just in case" ideas before I test suspend a few times?17:12
c0nn3x0r_bro, i want to ask something17:13
usr13Anaxandridas: See if that helps, but other than that, just don't use suspend  (If it doesn't work, don't use it).  (In other words, that's all I have on the issue, maybe someone else does. ... You might try hybernate instead.)17:13
wilee-nileec0nn3x0r_, Then ask it that is how this works.17:13
wilee-nilee!ask17:14
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:14
c0nn3x0r_hmm... this channel is ubuntu, rights?17:14
wilee-nileec0nn3x0r_, What is the channel name?17:14
Anaxandridasusr13, I like the idea of hibernate. However, the only such button I've ever found is Suspend. How do I hibernate, in Cinnamon?17:14
c0nn3x0r_#ubuntu17:14
usr13http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/17:14
wilee-nileec0nn3x0r_, So what does that tell you windows help. ;)17:15
c0nn3x0r_why you choose ubuntu OS for your PC ?17:15
usr13Anaxandridas:  I also see:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/199071/problem-after-suspend-ubuntu-12-0417:15
MonkeyDust!ot | c0nn3x0r_17:16
ubottuc0nn3x0r_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:16
AnaxandridasThanks. I'd have googled it had I realised it was intentionally not there. APpreciate the links, thank you for the help. Have a good one :D17:16
usr13Anaxandridas: ... but doesn't look like much help ...17:16
ZedGama3Anyone have any idea why changes using efibootmgr would be lost on reboot?17:16
Anaxandridasusr13, it was the only help proffered. That makes it good help :D17:17
MonkeyDustc0nn3x0r_  you should some case studies about ubuntu, to get an idea why17:17
MonkeyDustshould read*17:17
usr13Anaxandridas: May be that suspend just won't work on your hardware under 12.04, (at least not right now).  Just a speculation but....17:17
wilee-nileeZedGama3, Have you looked at the uefi wiki?17:17
netlarWhen they say that a NVidia driver is certified for Linux, what does that mean?17:18
ZedGama3Yes, and many other resources.  I haven't seen any references to this problem.17:18
wilee-nileeZedGama3, This a uefi W8 dual boot efi generally means apple here.17:18
c0nn3x0r_I just ask, do you choose ubuntu OS for coding? hacking? or something else??17:18
usr13netlar: Not much I'm afraid.  (Baybe other opinions around but....)17:18
wilee-nileec0nn3x0r_, This is support not chat.17:18
ZedGama3This is a new PC, came with windows 817:18
wilee-nilee!uefi | ZedGama3 Take a look here.17:19
ubottuZedGama3 Take a look here.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:19
ZedGama3I have the same problems when using easyBCD17:19
usr13netlar: ... I suppoes you'd have to ask the Nvidia people17:19
usr13*suppose*17:19
wilee-nileeZedGama3, we don't support easybcd I think they have a channel, a forum for sure.17:19
netlarusr13: I just have my eye on the GTX660, want to see if it is worth it17:20
c0nn3x0r_oohh.. may i false to join the chat, im so sorry ;)17:20
ZedGama3Both are having the same issue, it's like the bios isn't taking the change, but I don't know where to look for help at this point17:20
oldude67how do i manually clear room in /boot?17:20
sidney_is ubuntu launchpad down17:21
usr13netlar: https://www.google.com/search?q=+GTX660+Ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a17:21
wilee-nileeZedGama3, Adding a 3rd bootloader is not a wise move as well.17:21
usr13oldude67: use apt-get and remove old kernels.17:21
ZedGama3I can change efi variables and they look fine.  But once I reboot they return back to their original values17:21
ZedGama3I was hoping to change UEFI to boot to grub, but it keeps going back to windows17:22
chrisw125Hey guys anybody had experience with the hud mx2?17:22
usr13oldude67: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list  #Compare with uname -r  Start at top of list and work your way down.17:22
oldude67yeah17:23
oldude67this might be a minute. thank you usr1317:23
usr13oldude67: NP17:23
usr13oldude67: Let us know if we can be of further assistance.17:23
sidney_why is this command returning an error $ sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:teejee2008/ppa17:24
wilee-nileechrisw125, What release are you running?17:24
chrisw125wilee-nilee, technically elementary os17:25
wilee-nileechrisw125, THat is not even close to being a ubuntu support issue I believe, nor is that OS.17:25
trismsidney_: would help to include a pastebin of the error17:26
wilee-nileechrisw125, If you are registered you might try ##linux17:26
chrisw125while-nilee, alright17:26
wilee-nileechrisw125, I see #elementary-os & #elementary  as well.17:28
isbricstupid question -  whats the downside of creating a pv directly on a device like "pvcreate /dev/sdb" ie no partition table?17:28
chrisw125whilee-nilee, thought id get a better response here since it affects mosts distro's and is oddly device specific17:28
bekksisbric: There is none.17:28
chrisw125while-nilee, thanks though17:29
wilee-nileechrisw125, Understandable, its just ubuntu support is all. ;)17:29
isbricone upside is that i wount have to strugle with big disks and fdisk17:29
chrisw125whilee-nilee, fair enough17:29
wilee-nilee;)17:29
trijntjeHi all, what is the recommended way to resize an encrypted ubuntu install?17:29
sidney_http://pastebin.com/CTtz9MEN17:30
wilee-nileetrijntje, not encrypting to start with that is a kettle of smelly fish.17:30
sidney_trism, http://pastebin.com/CTtz9MEN17:31
trijntjewilee-nilee, unless you have a time machine I can borrow, thats not really usefull advice17:31
isbrictrijntje: lmgtfy : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions17:32
trijntjeisbric, thanks, but that seems to be written for hardy, so I was wondering if there are more up to date instructions17:33
ripthejackerneed help with open source radeon driver17:34
SteevcaHi,i just downloaded the Ubuntu 13.04 and i want to install it,but the problem is that on my HD i can have only 4 partitions,and i have them so i can't make a new one. Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a NTFS partition ?17:35
isbrictrijntje: oh, i guess it's an interesting read anyway.17:35
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SonderbladeSteevca: probably, but it absolutely is not a good idea. you want a linux-native fs17:36
sidney_Steevca, do you mean 4 primary partitions17:36
Steevcasidney_: Oh yeah,i am stupid. I forgot about that.17:36
trijntjeisbric, yes, but it has all this complicated 'remove partition table, re create it with some offset' stuf that seems a recipe for disaster ;)17:36
SteevcaI just did a facepalm.17:36
sidney_try to create an extended partition17:36
Steevcasidney_: Yeah,thanks.17:37
wilee-nileeSteevca, No, you will have to lose one primary and put a extended in to have logical partitions for ubuntu.17:37
isbrictrijntje: no no, encryption is the recipe ;)17:37
platzhirschAny idea how to use the disk usage analyzer tool if the home folder is encryped?17:38
trijntjeisbric, I blame windows, if it didn't need 60+ GB for just the OS I wouldn't be doing this in the first place17:38
trismsidney_: I think the problem here is you are on debian wheezy, not ubuntu, so it can't find a supported distro on the ppa17:38
trijntjeplatzhirsch, you mean boabab? It should run fine since home folder encryption is on a per-file basis17:39
wilee-nileeSteevca, Are you backed up in windows, an image/clone?17:39
wilee-nileesidney_, Are you advising to add a extened to 4 primaries?17:39
platzhirschtrijntje: it works. Though I cannot read what folder has how much storage17:39
isbricwell im out, best of luck to you :)17:40
platzhirschhome/platzhirsch and then I only see .ecryptfs17:40
ripthejackerdisplay is all broken like static in TV , using amd radeon hd 6450 with open source radeon drivers17:41
ripthejackerplease help17:41
wilee-nileeSteevca, One of the problems here is that windows 8 is a gpt so be sure to identify if you have a msdos or uefi setuo.17:41
platzhirschtrijntje: well, it's reported17:43
platzhirschhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baobab/+bug/118428317:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 1184283 in baobab (Ubuntu) "baobab is not able to read a mounted encrypted home directory" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:43
trijntjeplatzhirsch, are you using a live system?17:43
wilee-nilee!help > ripthejacker17:43
ubotturipthejacker, please see my private message17:43
jarray52Does Ubuntu have a libdl.so.1?17:44
ripthejackerok17:44
ikoniajarray52: sure17:44
kostkon!find libdl.so.117:44
ubottuPackage/file libdl.so.1 does not exist in raring17:44
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wilee-nilee!info libdl.so.117:45
ubottuPackage libdl.so.1 does not exist in raring17:45
kostkon!find libdl.so17:45
ubottuFile libdl.so found in libc6, libc6-amd64, libc6-arm64-cross, libc6-armel-cross, libc6-armhf-cross, libc6-dev, libc6-dev-amd64, libc6-dev-arm64-cross, libc6-dev-armel-cross, libc6-dev-armhf-cross (and 7 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libdl.so&mode=&suite=raring&arch=any17:45
Mosselmanhey guys. I want to host my e-mails myself in order to (partially) prevent employees of my web host (and the NSA) snooping through my stuff. Would it be possible to setup a VPS with my e-mail server and then prevent employees from the cloud company to access the machine?17:45
* genii ponders libsdl17:45
wilee-nileeMosselman, Loosen the tin foil hat. ;)17:46
Mosselmanwilee-nilee: you can if you want to17:46
wilee-nileehardly a ubuntu support question17:47
Mosselmanwilee-nilee: hardly helpful comment the last one17:48
SonderbladeMosselman: even if your handling of email is completely safe, how are you to ensure that everyone who receives your emails do the same?17:49
Mosselmanwilee-nilee: also I think it is, since I am talking about using ubuntu17:49
MosselmanSonderblade: that is true and something that I am willing to accept17:49
joshustill struggling to get scanning to work without sudo. There are many different methods that I've seen via google on how to fix this and I'd like to know what is preferred way of doing it.17:49
ikoniaMosselman: you know that emails are sent across the internet, out of your ISP's gateways....for all to read17:49
joshuOne is to modify /lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules" SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", MODE="0664" and change MODE to 066617:50
MosselmanSonderblade: I am not going to e-mail plans for building bombs around and stuff, it is just that I'd like to prevent employee-x from having a look around17:50
Mosselmanikonia: I have thought about this enough and I am aware of the limitations with the conceptual elements17:50
ikoniaMosselman: you clearly haven't17:50
SonderbladeMosselman: use pgp to encrypt your messages?17:51
Mosselmanikonia: explain to me why not17:51
ikoniaMosselman: as you believe that the people hosting your server can be "locked out"17:51
Mosselmanikonia: you can never lockout anyone 100$17:51
Mosselman100%17:51
ikoniaMosselman: Mosselman it's a vps - the person who controls the host will be able to access it17:51
jarray52what's the difference between libdl.so.2 and libdl.so.1?17:52
joshuMosselman also from setting up email servers and maintaining them it is tough stuff and you need to know many things to prevent spam etc17:52
Mosselmanbut right now my e-mails on my webhost's server are just open, so a privileged user can just cd around17:52
ikoniaMosselman: yes, that is correct, thats how an email setup works17:52
olskolircubuntu is SO dead!  We have pentest OS's now even fedora and pentoo has theirs.  Ours is Kali-Linux so why stay with Ubuntu?17:52
ikoniaolskolirc: don't, if you don't need/like it, do'nt use it17:52
ikoniaolskolirc: ubuntu is not designed for pentesting eclusivily, so if it doesn't meet your needs, don't use it17:53
olskolircikonia, I've been on Ubuntu since 1996 when it first came out17:53
Mosselmanikonia: self hosting already solves part of the problem, but with many VPS setups an admin can still change or see your root password and login, I am looking for a way to make it so that I can only (easily) gain root17:53
Mosselmanfor example with 2 way authentication17:53
olskolircupgrade to better now17:53
ikoniaolskolirc: what does that matter17:53
joshuMosselman but this is pretty much true for anything. At some point you have to realise that today if you want total control of all of your info whether it's super secret stuff or not. There is no 100% way unless you unplug from the net.17:53
ikoniaMosselman: running on a VPS does not change that17:53
olskolircaren't we all pentesters?17:53
Piciolskolirc: Were you looking for some sort of support, or are you just here to rant?17:53
olskolircreally17:53
ikoniaMosselman: the people who run the vps hosts - will always have access to your data17:53
netlarWhat is a Pentester17:54
olskolircPici, I was here when freenode started too17:54
joshuMosselman then setup a server at home and the data resides in your vicinity and you have physical control17:54
Mosselmanikonia: I never said they can't17:54
ikoniaMosselman: so why are you asking if you can do this17:54
Piciolskolirc: We don't care.17:54
joshunetlar someone who penetrates for a living :P17:54
olskolircthe legal way of saying hacker netlar17:54
Mosselmanikonia: you just want to be negative it seems17:54
ikoniaMosselman: no, I'm being realistic17:54
olskolircYOU don't Pici get a grip and move the f on17:55
ikoniaMosselman: I can lie to you to be positive if you want, "sure sure, you can make it totally safe and block the people who run the hosts from your data"17:55
Mosselmanikonia: security is not black-white. you can have different levels17:55
ikoniaMosselman: from your discussion view point, it's clear17:55
olskolircikonia, i used to admin here you stupid cunt17:56
Mosselmanlets say normally an employee can even see your root password in his admin panel, then he can just access straight away for a little snoop17:56
ikoniaMosselman: forget the admin pannel17:56
ikoniaMosselman: the people who run the virtual hosting "host" will always have access to the virtual guest data17:56
Mosselmanikonia: if however I'd have some other form of extra authentication, lets say 2 way through mobile, he'd have to at least try harder17:56
neodemiis there an easy way to tell if ive encrypted my backup drive, upgrading a few bits and dont want to risk losing access to my files17:57
PiciMosselman: You're running your machine on someone else's hardware.17:57
ikoniaMosselman: we are getting out of scope here for ubuntu, you'll need to do more research on this, I don't think you get how it works17:57
anoneeanyone familiar with deluge?17:57
anoneedeluge daemon indeed17:58
Mosselmanpick ikonia, you just don't get the point, if you encrypt your drive for example they should not be able to access the data right?17:58
ikoniaMosselman: of course they can17:58
btcquantNeed some help with setting up a RAID.  Have an encrypted drive with a bunch of data.  Now, I want to setup a mirrored RAID (also encrypted) but without losing the data.  Is that possible?17:58
dirtydaw1hello all im trying to use the rm command and even with sudo its giving me the cannot be deleted as is a directory....its the directory im trying to delete17:59
Picidirtydaw1: are you using rm -rf ?17:59
awptidirtydaw1, rm -rf17:59
dirtydaw1no i didnt please wait one while i re attempt18:00
Mosselmanikonia, yes because that is why encryption exists.18:00
ikoniaMosselman: no, you're just parroting blindly what the discussion in #ubuntu-server is18:00
dirtydaw1perfect worked fine that time thank your all what is the -rf for?18:01
Mosselmanikonia: If anything I have repeated what I said myself18:01
ikoniaMosselman: not as I read in #ubuntu-server18:01
dirtydaw1could goole it but your all faster :)18:01
ikoniaMosselman: I suggest you get on with it if you feel you are correct18:01
Picidirtydaw1: recursive and force.  You *need* the -r for directories.18:01
Picidirtydaw1: just use the built-in man pages next time: man rm18:01
dirtydaw1pici and and others i thank you all again!18:02
Mosselmanikonia: I suggest you evaluate why it is that you want to waste time in a support chat to be condescending to people18:02
ikoniaMosselman: I'm not doing that, I'm advising you that you do'nt need to do what you are trying to do - it's a waste and doesn't work as you fel18:03
ikoniafeel18:03
ikoniaMosselman: you feel it is worth while and does work that way, in that case, whats the point of asking, stop asking and get on with "doing"18:03
joshuThis is the udev rules files that Brother provides which they state should allow you to scan without superuser. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f344694ca9950fe908eb I installed the deb and this file installs to /etc/udev/rules.d/40-brother-libsane-type1.rules but I still can't scan as a normal user.18:04
Picijoshu: You may have to unplug and then replug your device after making those changes.18:05
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joshuPici I've tried rebooting, power cycling the printer and still can't scan without sudo. I don't know what's wrong as I've followed Brother's instructions on their site which is to sudo dpkg -i --force-all brother-udev-rule-type1-1.0.0-1.all.deb18:07
rypervenchebtcquant: You would need to migrant your data off then reformat then move it back.18:07
anoneeOK can anyone please explain this command to me? me@ubuntu $ screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web18:08
funktHi there I have lost all my indicator applets from the right hand sand in gnome in 12.0418:09
funktwould anyone know how i can get them back??18:09
funktI cannot add to panel as it will not allow me to right click add to panel18:10
anoneefunkt press windows logo+Alt and right-click18:11
anoneeyou're in GNOME Classic right?18:11
ghostnik11ii just shared a folder, and want to access that folder on another laptop on my network but when i click network in file manager, i can't see anything18:12
ripthejackerdisplay on my ubuntu 13.04 is broken , I'm using amd radeon hd 6450 with open source drivers , please help18:12
joshuPici hat off to you!! I have trying for a few hours searching and trying different things. I reverted my UBuntu test VM installed the scanner software and unplugged and plugged in the usb cable and it works. Amazing that rebooting or shutting down didn't take care of whatever needed to change!!18:13
anoneefunkt windowslogo+Alt and right-click, then Add to panel > Indicator Applet Complete18:13
funkthaha!!!!!!!! frickin legends thank you!!!!! man that's been a ball ache all day! thank you!!!18:15
Picijoshu: woo18:16
speedrunnerG55#ubuntu18:17
speedrunnerG55hi18:17
anoneefunkt u mean me?18:18
speedrunnerG55i am havving issues with my grub, i think. i have installed ubuntu 13.04 over mint and now i can not boot from it, all i got is grub rescue18:18
funktyep cheers!18:18
anoneefunkt :) glad it worked out, it took me a couple of days when i had this problem18:19
anoneefunkt can you explain this command to me? please? screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web18:20
speedrunnerG55;A;18:21
wilee-nileespeedrunnerG55, Try the bootrepiar app, you can just run the bootinfo summary and post it if you want us to look at it and advise.18:21
funktno idea mate18:21
Picianonee: Have you looked at the screen manpage?18:23
wilee-nileespeedrunnerG55, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair can be run from a live cd.18:24
anoneePici I tried, but I'll try again, now that I know more about what does screen do18:24
joshuPici bad news I rebooted to see that it still worked, but it doesn't. Now I have to use sudo again. How's this possible?! :(18:26
anoneePici what is flow-control exactly18:26
Kitt3nWhy doesn't Minecraft get more than 10 fps with the ATI Radeon driver?18:26
alumno_hola18:27
alumno_z18:27
alumno_z18:27
alumno_z18:27
FloodBot1alumno_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:27
Picianonee: it has to do with the negotiation and flow of the packets between yourself and the target.  I'm not sure how it alters screen's behavior18:27
alumno_oooooooooo18:27
Picialumno_: stop18:28
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anoneelol alumno is crazy?18:28
geniianonee: Possibly a language barrier18:29
anoneeOK room, so sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, but I really wanna know, O18:31
joshuPici you have any thoughts on why it worked when I un/re plugged, but not after reboot?18:32
SkinnYPuPtest18:33
anoneeI've read man screen but does it mean that when I run a program with screen I'm starting a new session like the gui session I'm running?18:33
Picijoshu: I'd have to guess it has to do with how the udev rule is structured, but I'd have to do a bunch of research myself to figure out how to do it properly.18:34
joshuPici that wasn't good news either18:35
thatstonerwell party on18:35
caersithanonee: screen is a terminal multiplexer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_multiplexer18:36
joshuPici someone did this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/217571/comments/4118:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 217571 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "xsane only scans as root" [Medium,Confirmed]18:36
joshuPici but I don't know if that is a bad thing to do, e.g. change MODE to 0666.18:37
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Picijoshu: it sounds reasonable, its just scanning.18:39
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goddardmy laptop shuts down when playing games18:41
goddardi think it is using to much power18:41
goddardor to hot?18:42
thesebhelp! i uninstalled acrobat but it STILL shows up on pdf launch menu!?!?!?18:42
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theseb(it isn't the default but I STILL want to NOT see it..how nuke?)18:42
wilee-nileetheseb, uninstall it18:44
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thesebwilee-nilee: i did and it sTILL shows up18:44
wilee-nileetheseb, they you probably didn't, how did you do it?18:44
wilee-nileethen*18:44
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thesebwilee-nilee: i installed from source18:44
thesebwilee-nilee: bad idea18:44
wilee-nileetheseb, a tar?18:45
thesebyes18:45
wilee-nileerooted?18:45
thesebwilee-nilee: there was an install script that ran as root18:45
thesebwilee-nilee: err wait....not as root18:45
wilee-nileetheseb, Try doing a search in home for it.18:46
thesebwilee-nilee: i nailed it....you need to remove AdobeReader.desktop from $HOME/.local18:46
lauri__ho ho ho, 3.8.0-27 kernel upgrade breaks my install18:47
wilee-nileetheseb, I was thinking local and .config18:47
lauri__can't boot to graphical interface18:47
lauri__any tips?18:47
thesebwilee-nilee: thanks for help18:47
wilee-nileelauri__, Try the earlier kernel.18:47
wilee-nileeno prob18:47
max64trying to connect to ThreatSpike VPN service giving me: (the vpn connection 'threat spike dome' failed because of invalid VPN secret)18:47
lauri__wilee-nilee yup I rolled back18:47
lauri__should I just keep the old kernel version? is it safe to do so? xubuntu 13.04 here18:48
wilee-nileelauri__, Did you install a proprietary graphic driver per-chance?18:48
lauri__wilee-nilee do you mean catalysts from amd site?18:48
anoneecaersith why would deluge-web run when i call it using this command $ screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web but won't run when i call it using the init script?18:48
wilee-nileelauri__, Yes.18:48
lauri__yes I did18:48
lauri__catalyst 13.418:49
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wilee-nileelauri__, Probably the problem, generally those don't follow kernel upgrades.18:49
max64can you help plz?18:49
lauri__should I remove drivers, do kernel update, reinstall drivers?18:50
lauri__I might even try the LTS release, there is less kernel updates, right?18:50
wilee-nileemax64, The channel works with you stating the problem in details you will get help if someone knows and wants to answer.18:50
max64wilee-nilee:that is ok dear :)18:51
wilee-nileelauri__, Graphic stuff is not a good area for me, I just am familiar with the problems with using a proprietary, I believe you can reload it not sure of the process though. Might be a repo answer that follows the upgrades.18:52
lauri__ok18:52
* wilee-nilee ignores drama18:53
anoneewilee-nilee your name is dramatic though18:55
anoneeI mean it sounds good, let's face it18:55
anoneeanyway.. :)18:56
caersithanonee: I'm guessing it has anything to do with the environment. looking at the man page -m ignore some env. and -s use the default shell (probably not bash)18:56
wilee-nileelauri__, The channel quite good with this sort of problem though.18:57
wilee-nileejust no me, lol18:57
wilee-nileenot*18:57
Jinxed-My usbs don't seem to be mounting correctly on ubuntu 12.0418:59
Jinxed-It either hows up as mounted at /cdrom19:00
Jinxed-or not mounted19:01
Jinxed-when it is not mounted and I attempt to mount via disk utility I get deamon inhibited19:01
Jinxed-daemon19:01
mario__ix19:01
abdullatif19:02
johnsmiththemanhello19:02
johnsmiththemani need some help19:02
wilee-nileeJinxed-, Have you put them in fstab per-chance?19:03
wilee-nilee!help | johnsmiththeman19:03
ubottujohnsmiththeman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:03
abdullatifwh change addiotinal drivers?19:04
wilee-nileeabdullatif, Can you re-state what the problem is?19:05
wilee-nileejohnsmiththeman, Tell the channel the issue for help. ;)19:05
caersithanonee: ignored my previous comment, misread -s with -S, it's probably because -m force to create a session, sorry can't help much I don't use screen.19:05
johnsmiththemanim having this super annoying wifi issue, I have a realtek RTL8188CE wifi card and for some reason my wifi is sucking hard. I can connect to the internet just fine, but it is super slow. If it even works at all. Most of the time it just doesnt load. I have tried downloading drivers from their website to no avail. I really need to get this working. If anyone knows any solutions it would be great. I have tried googling but no19:05
abdullatifhp 500 laptop , not dedected wireless driver or debian19:06
abdullatifBut Ubuntu automatic dedected ipw driver19:06
anoneecaersith thanx man19:06
wilee-nileeabdullatif, If you run lspci does it show the wireless card, if so post that info, what do mean debian, is it a install not showing?19:07
abdullatifdebian not show ipw 2200 drvr19:08
wilee-nileeabdullatif, Is your operating system debian?19:08
abdullatifYes19:08
abdullatifhow install ipw-2200 debian19:09
abdullatifSorry ı'm not actualy talking for english19:09
wilee-nileeabdullatif, Yuu want #debian this is ubuntu support. ;)19:09
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wilee-nileeYou*19:10
wilee-nileeabdullatif, There may be a debian channel in your native language if that helps.19:10
abdullatifThank u wilee19:11
wilee-nileeabdullatif, No problem, good luck. ;)19:11
Freeygit-annex shows internal sever error 128 when I try to install it on Ubuntu 13.019:11
Freeyhow can I make it work on Ubuntu19:11
Ale78GOTDeian?19:12
Freeyhttp://git-annex.branchable.com/install/19:12
FreeyI tried installing from here19:12
doomlordAnyone know  of a way to swap - and _ on the keyboard i.e. pressing shift gets "-" and not pressing shift gets _ instead of the default.19:13
flipper88_flSupport wise how long is 12.04 goign to be supported for non server environments?19:13
wilee-nileeFreey, it is in the raring repo, you installing the tar?19:13
doomlordreason is to make this_case_style_more_comfortable_to_type19:13
johnsmiththemanwell ill be baack in about an hour if someone has a solution19:13
abdullatifhow add channel XChat ırc?19:13
Freeywilee-nilee, sorry no I did apt-get install git-annex19:13
Freeywilee-nilee, should I install the tar ?19:14
wilee-nileeFreey, Not sure then, myself, the more error details you have will help you if posted.19:14
Nawfil2tp is a nightmore19:15
Freeywilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5926329/19:16
wilee-nileeFreey, This is beyond my skill set. ;)19:17
paul__Hi. I'm the editor-in-chief of Ubuntu User magazine. We are looking for authors willing to write for us.19:17
Freeyno problem, thanks19:17
abdullatifwhy turkish channel not actualy! damn it19:18
wilee-nileeFreey, Cool, just wanted to make sure you get help is all.19:18
filmfangood evening. are there any of you people in here that know a lot about lubuntu?19:18
flipper88_flo problems mate found it 2017is that the =correct year for desktop/laptop as well as server?19:18
Freeywilee-nilee, they have a #git-annex in OFTC19:18
Freeyasking there19:18
reisiofilmfan: some do, some don't19:18
wilee-nileeabdullatif, /j #debian.tr19:19
filmfanI was wondering if there is a version of wildwine (hbo nordic) that works in lubuntu?19:20
paul__Serious offer. Paid work.19:20
wilee-nilee!spam | paul--__19:20
paul__No not spam at all.19:20
MagePsychoi want to search and replace in files .. how to search n replace?19:20
paul__Just not sure where to start looking.19:20
StevenRMagePsycho: from the commandline?19:20
wilee-nileepaul__, That is considered spam19:20
MagePsychoyes19:20
MagePsychossh19:20
paul__What is?19:20
StevenRMagePsycho: have a look at sed19:21
wilee-nileepaul__, What your doing here it is spam.19:21
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paul__Ok. Whatever you say. Bye.19:21
odd1hey guys can i use an ntfs external partition as an output destination for a dd img file??19:21
odd1sort of like dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb/backup.image if sdb is an external ntfs drive19:21
wilee-nileeodd1, Of what?19:22
Dr_willisodd1,   you can put an image file onto a ntfs fs yes...19:22
Dr_willisor anywhere else you can write to.19:22
odd1ah, ok, thx19:22
Dr_willisand your dd command was totally wrong.19:22
Dr_willisand would erase your sdb19:23
MagePsychoStevenR i m new to linux.. can you help me19:23
odd1oO why?19:23
Dr_willisodd1,  look at it.. you are imageing TO a /dev/ device.. thats NOT writing a file TO the filesystem19:23
Dr_willisof=/media/ntfs-mountpoint/imagefile.img19:24
odd1so what should my of=? be?19:24
Dr_willisa FILESYSTEM.. not a device ;)19:24
StevenRMagePsycho: just... have a look at a sed starter guide online19:24
Dr_willisa place you can write files TO.19:24
odd1ouch too complex for me :(19:24
Dr_willisodd1,  if thats comples.. then you shouldebnt be touching dd. its rather stright forward19:24
Dr_willisyour command was imageing a DEVICE to another DEVICE19:24
StevenRMagePsycho: you're also going to want to read about "regular expressions"19:24
nyitnyithello why i can't update using repos from australia (eg iinet.net.au and aarnet.edu.au)? there are always missing files. but if i use repos from indonesia the update runs smoothly.19:24
Dr_willisnot a DEVICE to a FILE19:24
odd1its kinda complex... but what's the nfts-mountpoint?19:25
odd1i get the media19:25
Dr_willisodd1,  whever you have YOUR ntfs drive mounted to.19:25
Dr_willis!mount19:25
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount19:25
Nawfianyone have experience with l2tp?19:25
Dr_willissame path as if you where putting image file or other files on that ntfs drive19:25
odd1is there a dd gui btw? for newbies like me?19:26
Dr_willisodd1,  never seen one, never looked, never needed one19:26
odd1:)19:26
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nyitnyitodd1: try unetbootin19:26
MagePsychofind ./ -type f -exec sed -i 's%base/dd%default/dd%g' {} \; --> will this search and replace base/dd -> default/dd ?19:27
Dr_willisthere might be. but if you cant understand the differance btween a device and a file..  the gui would just let you destroy stuff easier19:27
Dr_willisodd1,  what are you trying to acomplish exactly?19:27
odd1i messed up my pc... installed zorin by (replace win xp), and it deleted both my xp partition and my data partition... now i need to make a dd image and get it on my main pc (win7) and try to salvage the data with photorec19:28
odd1atleast some of the data19:28
nyitnyitare aussie repos only for aussie? i can't update from indonesia using aussie repos19:29
FuzzyThorCan anyone help or point me into the right direction on creating a autostart script for teamspeak3 on my ubuntu x64 server19:29
n0cAnyone feel like helping me with an odd password problem?19:30
wilee-nileen0c, State the problem for help.19:31
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FuzzyThorCan anyone help or point me into the right direction on creating a autostart script for a .sh file in a user directory on my ubuntu x64 server19:31
n0cI went into account settings to remove my password on my account (n0c).  Now when using sudo/etc, I get invalid password if I use my old password or none at all.19:31
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r1d4a3thanks vavle19:32
r1d4a3for you workd19:32
r1d4a3's19:32
wilee-nileeodd1, As a heads up ZorinOS is not supported here.19:32
r1d4a3:)19:32
r1d4a3:-p19:32
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n0cso I rebooted into recovery, as root, set my password again, then rebooted, and it still didn't work.  Went back into account settings, had to set my password again?19:32
odd1wilee-nilee: yeah i know, but it's basically ubuntu... 13.04 i believe19:33
joshuI can get scanning to work without sudo by changing this SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", MODE="0664" to MODE 0666 in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules19:33
wilee-nileeodd1, Does not matter.19:33
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wilee-nileen0c, Running without a password is not advised here.19:33
r1d4a3thanks ubuntu19:33
r1d4a3lol19:33
n0cWell, I certainly agree, but I'm still thinking it's some sort of bug.19:34
r1d4a3donate 1 dollar19:34
r1d4a3:)19:34
X-Sleepy-X!lol | r1d4a319:34
ubottur1d4a3: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.19:34
r1d4a3sorry flood19:34
FuzzyThorI need to make a autostart script for a program19:34
* r1d4a3 exit19:34
wilee-nileen0c, I doubt that you have described a set of actions that are not normal.19:34
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joshuinstead of modifying the MODE for all USB devices, I tried to create a rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/40-brother-libsane.rules and added this SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="04f9", MODE="0666". However, for some reason this doesn't work19:34
wilee-nileen0c, We have no idea what you have done really.19:35
wilee-nilee!bash | FuzzyThor19:35
ubottuFuzzyThor: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal19:35
n0cwilee-nilee, well, I described it.  I removed the password from my account under "Account Settings" then lost the ability to perform actions as an administrator.19:35
FuzzyThorI am running a server19:35
n0cwilee-nilee, and when I restarted in recovery,  in a root shell, and used passwd n0c, set a password, booted back into Ubuntu, my password still didn't work in the terminal.19:36
FuzzyThorno gui19:36
wilee-nileen0c, There is no way to remove the password from users that is part of any wiki from canonical.19:36
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flann0c, it's possible that your account is no longer a member of the sudoers group. Try "id n0c" and see if "sudo" shows up int he list of groups.19:36
r1d4a3working19:37
X-Sleepy-X!crontab | FuzzyThor19:37
ubottuFuzzyThor: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto19:37
FuzzyThorubottu i have my server command-line open via ssh19:38
ubottuFuzzyThor: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:38
n0cwilee-nilee, I apologize, I didn't explain myself properly. I didn't remove my password, I simple set my account to log in without requiring a password.  (User Accounts -> Unlock -> Log in without a password)19:38
joshuok problem solved after trial and error19:38
flann0c, it's possible that your account is no longer a member of the sudoers group. Try "id n0c" and see if "sudo" shows up int he list of groups.19:39
n0cflan, gid=1000(n0c) groups=1000(n0c),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),117(nopasswdlogin),124(sambashare)19:40
flann0c, then that is not the issue. Can you elaborate, specifcally, on what is failing?19:41
n0cNow  that I've enabled no passwd at login, I can't use any superuser commands (authentication failure)19:41
n0cIf I re-enable password at login, I get my access back.19:41
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esingHi19:42
reisiohi19:43
esingIf I install ubuntu 13.10 alpha and later 13.10 will be released properly, can I then just update the 13.10 alpha to the official release or may there be troubles?19:43
esinghi reisio19:43
reisioyou can _and_ there may :)19:43
esing^19:43
reisionone that you couldn't overcome, however19:44
n0cesing, usually the update will go through with no issues, but there is a possibility of something going wrong (rare).19:44
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esing(I want to install ubuntu 13.10 because ubuntu 13.04 live usb isn't booting on the new laptop (haswell gpu), therefor I worry that if I install 13.04 I also get issues with booting after installation19:44
wilee-nileeesing, For help if needed till release on 13.10 #ubuntu+119:44
esingGood to know, thanks19:45
wilee-nileeesing, That is magical thinking.19:45
wilee-nilee;)19:45
goddardhow can i install LAMP without making it auto start on the system?19:46
goddardlooking at a dev setup19:46
reisiodoes it do that by default?19:46
esingwilee-nilee Iam not sure if it's just a wrong boot parameter or missing driver for the haswell gpu. Since the live usb isn't booting the normal installation should behave the same I guess :)19:46
X-Sleepy-X!init | goddard19:47
ubottugoddard: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto19:47
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wilee-nileeesing, Is this a dualboot and if so what's the other OS?19:49
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esingwilee-nilee Yes it should be dual boot. The other OS is Windows819:50
esingAnd it's EFI19:50
wilee-nilee!uefi | esing Have you looked here.19:51
ubottuesing Have you looked here.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI19:51
wonton_I need some help.  Trying to make this.  http://uncommonsense2000.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-make-hybrid-android-liveusb-and.html  Need a recommendation for a ~4+gb linux live dvd, compressed, that I can both use to make this and use in general as a bootable linux dvd. :)19:51
wilee-nileeesing, I did see various problems on the web with that gpu, but that uefi is more fun than you should be allowed to have.19:52
wonton_I've never used linux before, hence why I'm asking in an ubuntu forum, I hear it's easier to use than other distros.19:52
wilee-nileewonton_, Depends on the user realy.19:52
johnsmiththemanalright im back19:53
wilee-nileewonton_, I would use a usb.19:54
wonton_I'm a computer nerd with dos and windows experience, but no linux experience.  I plan to code, develop, use flash if possible, use google chrome if possible, etc.   Tools I would like (in no particular order), include compilers, mono, a web browser, flash, etc.19:54
johnsmiththemanim having this super annoying wifi issue, I have a realtek RTL8188CE wifi card and for some reason my wifi is sucking hard. I can connect to the internet just fine, but it is super slow. If it even works at all. Most of the time it just doesnt load. I have tried downloading drivers from their website to no avail. I really need to get this working. If anyone knows any solutions it would be great. I have tried googling but no19:55
wonton_I have an intel mac with no hard drive, it may not boot from USB... hmm... I also have TONS of spare DVD's (and yes, a few flash drives)... but mostly DVD's, so regardless, I will make at least one DVD.19:55
esingwilee-nilee Hm, so I better try it with 13.10, considering the haswell gpu issues19:55
johnsmiththemanim using ubuntu 12.0419:55
navinodwonton: make a dvd and try it out19:55
wonton_You seem to misunderstand, THE LIVEDVD IS NECESSARY TO FORMAT THE USB FLASH DRIVE PROPERLY FOR BOOTING.19:55
wonton_I am merely asking for your help selecting a good one so I don't have to throw it out after.19:56
wonton_Sorry for yelling.19:56
goddardreisio: yes when you install it .. they assume you are setting it up as a 24/7 server19:56
auronandacewonton_: we support ubuntu here, we don't make other distro recommendations, ask in ##linux19:56
navinodtry lubuntu or ubuntu or xubuntu, they are all easy to pick up19:57
wilee-nileewonton_, You have hardly even come close to explaining you goal here19:57
wonton_I'm asking if anyone has an Ubuntu live DVD recommendation.19:57
r1d4a3^-^19:57
histowonton_: go to ubuntu.com download and burn to dvd19:57
johnsmiththemanis anyone able to help me?19:57
wonton_I need to use a linux live CD to format my flash drive.  I am looking for the most useful ubuntu distro.  Most of the ones on ubuntu are about 1.6gb, way too small.   I'm looking for something I'll get more life out of, a LiveDVD distro that will fill the DVD. :)  I want one packed to the brim.19:58
wilee-nileejohnsmiththeman, Those cards can be problematic.19:58
reisiogoddard: good times19:58
histojohnsmiththeman: what happened when you tried the drivers from realtek?19:58
wonton_Are there any 3+gb Ubuntu distros?19:58
reisiogoddard: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20disable%20apache%20start :)19:58
johnsmiththemanthey didnt make any difference that i can tell19:59
auronandacewonton_: none supported here no19:59
histojohnsmiththeman: perhaps an antenna issue?19:59
johnsmiththemanno it was working fine under windows 7 yesterday19:59
navinodwonton you can download a live cd and download the tools you need19:59
r1d4a3sectools.org19:59
auronandace!uck | wonton_19:59
ubottuwonton_: uck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/19:59
wilee-nileeesing, I would not assume a beta has better use for the gpu, but thats me.20:00
histojohnsmiththeman: maybe try a newer kernel?20:00
r1d4a3http://ubuntu-fr.org/20:00
ad134i was wondering if it's possible to publish a website on ubuntu one20:01
johnsmiththemanHow would i do that? I just ran all the updates from update manager20:01
wilee-nileer1d4a3, Stop posting garbage.20:01
esingwilee-nilee Hm, I read this article https://spicious.com/sony-vaio-pro-11-with-ubuntu.html and there is this information "To install Ubuntu, you need to grab the Ubuntu 13.10 daily image. The 13.04 image doesn't correctly setup the GPU at boot. "20:02
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esing" doesn't correctly setup the GPU at boot. " <- Iam not sure if he's talking about the graphic boot parameters or actually X configuration20:03
r1d4a32 $20:03
r1d4a3wilee-nilee,20:03
wilee-nileeesing, could be right could be wrong it is one webpage on the net20:03
esingHm, ye. I should try out then and see :)20:04
r1d4a3windows donnate20:04
johnsmiththemanwhat is the newest kernel version?20:04
wonton_Now comes the fun part. XD  Well, since I need to use Uck to make my livecd, does anyone have a suggestion of which LiveCD/Live dvd I should download to boot from/download and make Uck?  The most generally useful one.  (Recursion. XD)  I'm heading over to linux, if anyone has any livedvd recommendations, you may reply here, in ##linux, or via direct message.  Thanks.  Also, intro guides to using ubuntu would be appreciated.20:04
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r1d4a3thi's work men wroking for the software20:05
auronandace!info linux-image-generic precise | johnsmiththeman20:05
ubottujohnsmiththeman: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.49.59 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB20:05
johnsmiththemanahh okay thanks20:06
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johnsmiththemanokay so i seem to be runing 3.5.0-37-generic20:08
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wonton_Linux channel doesn't seem to be working either.  Where can I find a list of all the ubuntu ISO's?20:10
johnsmiththeman1sorry my wifi gave out20:10
auronandace!download | wonton_20:11
ubottuwonton_: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Raring, and help keeping the servers' load low!20:11
histojohnsmiththeman1: there are ppas you can try for updated kernels to see if that helps.20:11
histowonton_: distrowatch.com20:11
johnsmiththeman1how would i do that? I am pretty new to linux20:12
ctugtcan someone recommend me a goof free irc for osx20:13
wonton_thanks histo20:13
auronandacectugt: no, this is ubuntu support20:13
ctugtsorry20:13
ctugtwron connection20:13
k1lctugt: can you undeline that ubuntu in your question? :)20:13
odd1Dr_willis: is this good? dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/ubuntu/temp/backups/hddimage.img20:13
MonkeyDu1tctugt  try #macos20:13
ctugtthnx20:13
ctugt;)20:13
Dr_willisodd1,  if thats a proper /media/ path.. and you will want to use the bs= option to speed it up20:14
odd1Dr_willis: /dev/sda is my internal disk i'm backing up and backups is a folder on my external drive20:14
Dr_willisbs=4M or similer  most every dd example does that20:14
Dr_willisodd1,  but that IS a valid path or not? can you cd to it?20:14
odd1yes i tried20:14
odd1ls and everything20:14
odd1it's good20:14
Dr_willisand you do have enough space there? ;P20:15
odd1:D20:15
wonton_Ubuntu studio looks interesting.20:15
odd1120gb or so20:15
odd1and my drive is 80gb20:15
odd1the internal one20:15
odd1bs= will give me the "empty" parts too?20:15
Dr_willisdd will always give you the empty parts20:16
Dr_willisthats how it works20:16
odd1ah, so what exactly is bs?20:16
Dr_willisblock size20:16
Dr_willissee 'man dd' and the 10000's of dd examples online for its ussage20:16
Dr_willisuse bs, or else speeds will be very very slow.20:17
th0rDr_willis: on the assumption that /media is on /dev/sda, won't that create a loop where dd is reading the output as part of the input?20:17
anddamhi, is there a PPC specific channel?20:17
Dr_willisth0r,  dd reads the Device directly. not the filesystem20:17
Dr_willisodd1,  you are NOT imageing the drive you are booting from are you?20:17
odd1no ofc20:18
reisioanddam: /msg alis list *bunt*ppc*20:18
odd1sda to sdc20:18
th0rDr_willis: and that is why I listen in here.....something new every day <smile>. Thanks20:18
odd1sda is 80gb sdc is 400gb20:18
Dr_willisodd1,  and what do you plan on doing with this 80gb image file?20:18
reisioanddam: time to switch to Debian perhaps20:18
anddamreisio: "end of output", yep20:18
odd1Dr_willis: i'll mount it on windows...20:18
odd1and then use photorec to try to recover anything20:19
Dr_williswell good luck with that.20:19
odd1http://www.osforensics.com/tools/mount-disk-images.html20:19
odd1i'll mount it with this20:19
Dr_willisit might want an image of /dev/sda  or it may be ok with /dev/sda1    but i guess trying sda first will be ok.20:19
odd1ya i was also a bit confused with that but imho thewhole disk is better20:20
odd1hopefully i get something back20:20
histoodd1: photorec is available in linux20:20
histoodd1: it's part of the testdisk package20:21
anddamI'll just ask: I'm trying to boot an old powerbook G4 with an ubuntu image from USB stick, I'm not sure how to make the USb stick bootable, the wiki instructions are a bit confusing and result in a APT device with an HFS partition that OF cannot access20:21
odd1histo: yeah i know, i also downloaded it on hiren, but win7 is my main pc, so there isnt rly much of a difference20:22
odd1and i tried running it on win and it works20:22
odd1Dr_willis: dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/ubuntu/temp/backups/hddimage.img bs=4M20:22
odd1so this is the whole command?20:23
Dr_willisyou will need sudo rights of course. ;)20:23
odd1ah yes :)20:23
Dr_willistry it and see - it will take it some time to finish20:23
odd1ok, thanks!20:23
Dr_willisyou can watch the size from antoehr terminal and see it grow20:23
histoodd1: does this drive have bad sectors?20:23
Dr_williswatch 'ls -l /media/ubuntu/whatever/whatever/whatever.img'20:23
Dr_willisif the disk has bad sectors or other hardware issues.. you should be using 'ddrescue' i imagine20:24
r1d4a3+1 for all banks's acount20:24
daftykinsanddam: PPC? nasty.20:24
odd1histo: nope, not that i know of... i just messed it up by installing zorin os over it20:24
Dr_willisi will honestly be suprised if any data is recoverable at all.20:25
odd1should i use spinrite first on it?20:25
r1d4a3.txt ?20:25
r1d4a3name.txt20:25
Dr_willisr1d4a3,  you are rambling on about somthing?20:25
lerschHello. I used this script (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ListInstalledPackagesByDate) to generate a list of installed packages. I installed Mint in this computer in March, but the dates of the first packages installations dates to 2012. Why?20:25
histoodd1: ahh20:25
bekkslersch: We have no clue what Mint does regarding package dates.20:26
histoodd1: what was on the disk originally before zorin?20:26
r1d4a3name firstname.txt20:26
histo!mint | lersch20:26
ubottulersch: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:26
lerschok20:26
lerschthank you20:26
odd1histo: winxp=30gb/data=50gb both ntfs partitions20:26
odd1now zorin 80gb one ext partition20:27
r1d4a36667 ?20:27
histoodd1: well testdisk will probably be able to recover you data partition.20:27
Dr_willisthe windows partions were deleted and remade into a single ext4 partion, and you now want to try to recover the windows data..20:27
histo!who | r1d4a320:27
ubottur1d4a3: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)20:27
odd1Dr_willis: yes20:28
* r1d4a3 no an...20:28
odd1Dr_willis: photorec says it can do that...20:28
Dr_willisodd1,  i will be suprised if it works20:28
k1l!guidelines > r1d4a320:28
ubottur1d4a3, please see my private message20:28
odd1Dr_willis: PhotoRec ignores the file system; this way it works even if the file system is severely damaged.20:28
odd1from their wiki20:29
ALLTHECODEWhat to do if installing Mir made your machine unusable? Just black screen when booting.20:29
Dr_willisALLTHECODE,  try text mode.20:29
MonkeyDu1tis Mir stable?20:29
Dr_willisALLTHECODE,  and if that fails.. live cd, and chroot and repair20:29
ALLTHECODEDr_willis: you mean recovery mode?20:29
johnsmiththemanalright20:29
Dr_willis!text20:29
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode20:29
OerHeksMonkeyDu1t, no, xMir is not stable yet20:29
johnsmiththemanso i just updated to the newest kernel and it still isnt working20:29
ALLTHECODEDr_willis: will that work if I had been using encryption?20:29
k1lALLTHECODE: wait some time. it did last some time in the first boot for me. but if nothing helps go to tty1 and remove that ppa with ppa-purge20:29
Dr_willisALLTHECODE,  no idea.  i dont use encryption.20:30
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Dr_willisalt-ctrl-f1 thrugh f6 may get you to a console also.20:30
ALLTHECODEk1l: simply removing the ppa will uninstall?20:30
Dr_willis!ppa-purge20:30
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html20:30
k1lALLTHECODE: no. i said ppa-purge which is a remove program20:30
ALLTHECODEok20:31
movan2011:window log on20:31
ALLTHECODEthank you I will try20:31
anddamdaftykins: it's actually tidier than x86, it just happens to have failed from an evolutionary POV20:31
johnsmiththemanso i dont know what to do20:32
johnsmiththemanshits messed up20:32
histoDr_willis: it will recover stuff from past the zorin data just fine.20:32
daftykinsanddam: i was more thinking it's a nasty ancient system to try and make use of in 2013.20:32
johnsmiththemanwifi isnt working at all now20:32
peyamHi, is there any program similar to "windows experience" wher I can see how my hardware is in linux?20:32
johnsmiththemani can connect and thats it20:32
johnsmiththemanpages dont load or anything20:32
histopeyam: boot live cd20:32
peyamjohnsmiththeman, what is the issue?20:32
peyamhisto, what?20:32
johnsmiththemanmy wifi20:32
johnsmiththemanis being stupid20:33
johnsmiththemani have a realtek RTL8188CE20:33
johnsmiththemanand i can connect to my network20:33
peyamyes and the issue is?20:33
johnsmiththemanbut thats it20:33
johnsmiththemanpages dont load20:33
johnsmiththemanmy connection will drop randomly20:33
peyamwhat do you run? ubuntu?20:33
histopeyam: you can just boot a live cd and see if your hardware works20:33
johnsmiththemanyes ubuntu 12.0420:33
peyamhisto, do you know what windows experience is? it gives cores to your hardware fron 1 to 7,9 depends on how good it is20:34
histojohnsmiththeman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203798/realtek-rtl8188ce-wireless-is-slow20:34
histojohnsmiththeman: here's another http://askubuntu.com/questions/205575/12-10-x64-rtl8188ce-intermittent-slow-internet-connection20:35
histopeyam: cores?20:35
johnsmiththemanthanks20:35
johnsmiththemani already tried that20:35
johnsmiththemanbut ill try again with the new kernel20:35
histopeyam: your hardware either works or it doesn't. I'm not sure what you are after20:35
peyamjohnsmiththeman, it could be a router issue as well20:35
histojohnsmiththeman: the second link I gave you had some options that people posted worked.20:36
johnsmiththemanwell the thing is it worked fine with windows 7 yesterday20:36
peyamhisto, if you google windows experience you will understan it20:36
johnsmiththemanand my ipad is working fine with it20:36
esingDoes ubuntu (unity) have touchscreen support?20:36
histopeyam: from what you explained it seems pretty pointless20:36
peyamjohnsmiththeman, yes.. my ubuntu couses me the same problem.. Im forced to restart the router everytime20:36
peyamhisto, no!20:36
planetehi20:37
histopeyam: yes!  Don't try and confuse windows with linux20:37
peyamhisto, sir! I am not a newbie!20:37
johnsmiththemanwell this sucks hahah20:37
LuckySMackhas anyone here installed raring on the surface? the install went fine but the wifi is unreliable and it shows the list of network 3 times.20:37
histopeyam: Boot a live cd and see if your hardware works.  If you want to benchmark your hardware there are tools for that.20:37
johnsmiththemani have no idea how to fix this20:37
peyamhisto, I  m searching for program that scores my hardware and tell me how good they are!20:38
histojohnsmiththeman: Try the second link I gave you. Or search askubuntu.com for solutions20:38
histopeyam: So you want to benchmark your hardware.  "windows experience" doesn't do that20:38
peyamjohnsmiththeman, http://kurdiskingenjor.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/wifi-is-too-slow-in-xubuntu-ubuntu/20:38
peyamhisto, okej. thank you for ur time20:38
peyamjohnsmiththeman, http://kurdiskingenjor.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/router-doesnt-work-sometimes/20:39
johnsmiththemanalright ill try these. Thanks.20:39
MrKalimanHello all, can somebody help me with my ubuntu 12.03 installation on my Dell Latitude E5400? After 10 minutes the fan starts to spin and stays always on. Sensors showing me that there is no high tempature20:41
peyamMrKaliman, have you checked your bios?20:42
MrKalimanPeyam, I upgraded my BIOS to the latest release20:42
peyamand the settings?20:42
peyamwhat does the fan level say?20:42
MrKalimanpeyam: No specific settings found for fan20:42
peyamhmm20:42
OerHeks!lmsensors20:42
ubottuTo access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.20:42
MrKalimanI already installed sensors, no high tempature mentioned20:43
wilee-nileeMrKaliman, Can you run this and post the output. lsb_release -a20:43
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peyamhe said 13.0420:44
MrKalimanNo LSB modules are available.20:44
MrKalimanDistributor ID:Ubuntu20:44
MrKalimanDescription:Ubuntu 13.0420:44
MrKalimanRelease:13.0420:44
MrKalimanCodename:raring20:44
FloodBot1MrKaliman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:44
peyamMrKaliman, Did you follow the recommended "YES/NO" answers in lm-sensors?20:44
MrKalimanYep, everything answered as YES20:45
peyamno "No"s?20:45
MrKalimanindeed, no "NO's" :-)20:46
wilee-nileepeyam, It says 12.03 first post.20:46
peyamthere is no 12.03 you should know that :P20:46
wilee-nileeno 13.04 before you tried to correct me20:46
peyamsory20:46
MrKalimanwilee-nilee: sorry it was 13.04 was a typo20:47
wilee-nileedetails are the key here.20:47
LuckySMackanyone in here using ubuntu on the surface pro?20:47
wilee-nileeLuckySMack, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=surface+pro20:49
reisioironicly one of the least problematic tablets to put a free Unix on20:52
reisioironicaaaallly20:52
Freeylol20:52
LuckySMackyea the install went great and it runs really well on the surface. just wifi it really glitchy20:52
MrKalimanCurrent tempature status: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5926656/20:53
* r1d4a3 ZzZzzzz20:59
reisioagreed20:59
rokas__Hello, can somebody help me, I need to append incrementing index in each line of the file, I'm using this: "for n in {1..389}; do sed 's/$/'$n'/' seriesss.txt ; done" but seams it adds same text to every line. Thanks a lot :)21:02
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k1lrokas__: you could ask in #bash21:04
FroMasterLooking for advise... Wanting to build a public facing LAMP webserver thats running current packages managed via apt-get (not source) 12.04 LTS packages are too old. Is running 13.04 a good idea? I'm coming from Gentoo where i'm always running the latest and greatist with minimal effort21:07
ikoniaFroMaster: why are they too old ?21:07
bekksFroMaster: Running LTS on a public webserver is a far better idea than 13.04.21:07
FroMasterAre security fixes backported?21:08
bekksYes.21:09
ikoniasecurity fixes are and critical bug fixes21:09
FroMasterWill 12.04 LTS ever get upgraded to apache2 2.24.x before 14.04 LTS?21:10
ikoniaFroMaster: very doubtful21:10
ikoniaFroMaster: why is 2.2.24 important to you ?21:11
FroMasternot 2.24, I ment 2.421:11
ikoniawhy is 2.4 important to you ?21:11
FroMasterikonia: its been awhile but remembered I needed to upgrade for an application we're developing.21:13
ikoniaI'd be very surprised by that21:13
johnsmiththemanwell21:15
ikoniaFroMaster: the 2.4 brand was only released a few days ago, so I'd be very surpried if it had "been a while" and it was "required"21:15
FroMasterikonia: I believe it was 2.4's modules - mod_remoteip and mod_ratelimit21:15
johnsmiththemani did all the stuff in the links21:15
johnsmiththemanand it didnt work21:15
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fdhsjkfhHello! Why is installing Ubuntu on a MacBook so awkward?21:16
johnsmiththemanhisto: I tried all the stuff and it didnt work21:16
johnsmiththemanThanks for trying21:16
deadweaselfdhsjkfh: i don't these guys can fix subjective issues.  maybe some specifics about your problem?21:17
deadweasel*think21:17
fdhsjkfhdeadweasel: Well... it's more of a post installation issue. Like, everything seems so slow, and my MacBook gets really hot. :/21:18
histojohnsmiththeman: then you need to seek new drivers from realtek or use a different chipset21:18
ikonia!mac | fdhsjkfh21:18
ubottufdhsjkfh: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages21:18
fdhsjkfhikonia: Duh!21:19
knabberI've recently updated from 12.10 to 13.04, my framerate in a particular game i play in wine dropped from 40fps to 8fps. I double checked the version of the driver and it's the newest. My GPU is a Intel Iron Lake. Does have the same issue or does anyone know what the problem might be?21:19
ikoniafdhsjkfh: ?21:19
fdhsjkfhikonia: ?21:19
ikoniafdhsjkfh: what do you mean "Duh!"21:19
fdhsjkfhikonia: Guess! :)21:19
ikoniafdhsjkfh: I don't know, hence why I'm asking21:19
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OzelsinUlnn Burda Turkçe Kürtçe Býlen Yokmu.21:19
fdhsjkfhdeadweasel: Do you know why that happens?21:20
histoknabber: wine version difference?21:20
OerHeksfdhsjkfh, macbook .. hot.. see the mactel pages for the PPA with fanspeedcontrol21:20
ikoniafdhsjkfh: have you read/checked that page ?21:20
knabberhist: checked that aswell still the same as before21:21
histofdhsjkfh: it's awkward because mac uses a 32bit efi system for some god awefull reason21:21
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hyprvxif an application is open, but the window isn't visible and there's no icon on the launcher or taskbar, how can I open an application window for the application?21:32
Azishi21:32
jaeniehi all, i found a PPA for getting php 5.3.10 on a 10.04 system.  I used it as instructed, but in the end I didn't see any updates, I'm guessing it went to the official repos to get 5.3.3 binaries.  I'm guessing this is because the unofficial PPA was meant for 10.04 and I am running 10.10?  Is there a way to fake the PPA to give me the updates?21:35
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jaeniebeign that 10.04 is so far out of updates, I'm guessing 10.10 and 10.04 are fairly convergent by now, no?21:35
ikoniajaenie: sounds like you've made a huge mess of your machine21:35
jaeniedon't think so it works fine... it just ignored the new ppa21:36
ikoniayou're meant to disable PPA' and remove software before upgrading21:36
jaenieyes, as I said, i went through the instructions21:36
jaeniedisable which ppa? the official one?21:36
hyprvx10.10 is out of support totally, but 10.04 is still in support for servers only. I'd recommending updating to 12.04 or newer and then trying again, unless your computer is too old for the newer versions21:37
ikoniajaenie: yes, disable ALL PPA's21:37
ikoniaand 3rd party repos21:37
ikoniaand remove any software supplied by them21:37
jaeniehyprvx, i wish i could21:37
jaenieikonia, why?21:37
ikoniajaenie: because the software can cause conflicts21:37
hyprvxjaenie, what's the problem when you update?21:37
jaenieas I said, i dont think anything was installed by them21:37
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ikoniajaenie: it has to be - otherwise you wouldn't be using them21:38
jaeniehyprvx, 12.04 is chock full of multi-head problems21:38
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hyprvx12.1 or 13.04?21:38
jaenieikonia, i never said i was using software from the ppa, as I did say, i still have the only ones in place, even after removing, adding the new ppa, and then uninstalling21:38
ikoniahyprvx: well, as he said 12.04 I assume he measn 12.0421:38
jaenie12.04.0221:38
jaeniei did not say I have 12.0421:39
Guest10359hi21:39
jaeniei said, 10.0421:39
ikoniajaenie: then you didn't remove them for th upgrade21:39
hyprvxI was asking if he had tried 12.10 or 13.0421:39
ikoniajaenie: for the multi-head problems - you did21:39
ikoniajaenie: that was the reference21:39
ikoniahyprvx: he said 12.0421:39
ikonia22:38 < jaenie> hyprvx, 12.04 is chock full of multi-head problems21:39
Guest10359help21:39
ikoniahence why he's not using 12.0421:39
ikoniaGuest10359: bravo, great problem description21:39
Guest10359i want to register please21:39
jaenieikonia:  remove old php related items, add ppa, update, upgrade.  that's the process. stil have the same php i had before I started.21:39
hyprvxand I asked if he had tried 12.10 or 13.04 as well as 12.0421:40
ikoniajaenie: yes, that's not what you're meant to do, but it's too late now21:40
Guest10359sorry iKonia21:40
ikoniahyprvx: they are not LTS21:40
jaenieikonia, yes, your quoting me doesnt say that I actually upgraded.  Some time ago, on another partition i attempted, and dropped the project after multiple attempts to get multi-head working as desired.21:40
OerHeks!register > Guest 1035921:41
ikoniajaenie: ok, then you've used a 10.04 repo with 10.10 - just as bad21:41
OerHeks!register > Guest1035921:41
ubottuGuest10359, please see my private message21:41
jaeniebut its actually done nothing21:41
ikoniajaenie: thankfully the packages are problem locked to the version21:41
jaeniesince when reinstalling the software, after removing and adding the new ppa, the software came from official repos21:41
jaenieVersion: 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.1021:42
jaenieMaintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>21:42
jaeniethat's from $ aptitude show php521:42
ikoniajaenie: we are getting a bit away from the problem, sorry, what is it you want to achieve21:42
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jaenieikonia, to use those 10.04 php5.3.10 binaries, or even better to find a PPA with 5.3.10 for 10.1021:43
ikoniajaenie: don't mix versions21:43
jaeniei have been unable to find a PPA for 10.10 and obviously have not been able to hack it with the 10.0421:43
jaenieat this point, i don't care about mixing versions21:43
ikoniajaenie: well you really sould21:44
jaeniewell, aside from the religious discussion, is there a way to accomplish this, per my initial question?21:44
ikoniajaenie: no-one is developing/packaging for 10.10 as it's EOL, so I'd consider trying to plan to move to a supported version21:44
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jaenieikonia, that would take us back to the other discussion regarding 12.0421:44
ikonia!info php5 lucid21:44
ubottuphp5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.20 (lucid), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB21:44
ikonia!info php5 maverick21:45
ubottu'maverick' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, unstable21:45
ikonia!info php5 maverick21:45
dieogo!info php5 maverick21:45
ubottu'maverick' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, unstable21:45
jaenieso you wont answer on philosophical grounds or do not know the answer on how to get the 10.04 php to give up the goods?21:46
OerHeks10.10 maverick is deleted from the factoid?21:46
ikoniadirtydaw1: repos removed21:46
ikoniaOerHeks: looks like as the repos have been archived, yes21:46
ikoniajaenie: I am answering21:46
ikoniajaenie: no-one is developing repos for 10.10 as the repos are archived, so you're best bet is to plan an upgrade to a supported version and work out the problems21:47
jaenieyou'd told me to do something orthagonol to the actual problem, which I've said I cannot do, as 12.04.02 is rife with multi-head problems21:47
jaeniei know that would be the "best bet" except it doesnt work for other reasons21:47
ikoniajaenie: I've not told you something orthagonol at all21:47
jaenieso, i'm ok with doing what's not the "best bet"21:47
ikoniajaenie: what others reasons, those are (hopefully) reasons we can work through as the distro is supported21:47
piranha_portugalwath do ppl think of shodan ?21:48
bassoanyone else gotten their google account password changed?21:48
ikoniapiranha_portugal: of wht ?21:48
FleaFlickerwhy are you not building php5 from source?21:48
ikoniabasso: nothing to do with ubuntu21:48
jaenieikonia, i've already spend enough time trying to get 12.04 to work.  i don't have the time.21:48
ikoniaFleaFlicker: because that is a huge problem21:48
ikoniajaenie: well, 10.10 is EOL so there are no repos21:48
jaenieFleaFlicker, because if i could get the ansewr on how to trip aptitude to use the 10.04 ppa on my 10.10 system, i'd be done by now21:48
jaenieikonia ^^^^^21:48
ikoniajaenie: you can't21:48
ikoniajaenie: the whole point are the packages are locked21:49
jaenieegads, its like i'm on windows21:49
ikoniajaenie: it's nothing like that21:49
ikoniadon't be silly21:49
MonkeyDu1tjaenie  you're trying to make something work that's 'dead', don't reject every and any advice you're getting here21:50
jaenieMonkeyDu1t, not sure if you're following along here, but i haven't.  no one's given me advice yet that isn't a road I've already travelled21:50
jaeniethe rise of the meta...21:51
ikoniajaenie: you could always contact the PPA maintainer and see if he'd consdier rebuilding and packaging for 10.1021:51
piranha_portugallog in21:51
hyprvxquick question, I installed Skype, and the icon isn't showing up on the taskbar, any way I can force it to?21:51
ikoniajaenie: it's very doubtful, but worth a punt if you're locked into the position you suggest your in21:51
jaeniethat's not a bad idea21:51
jaeniei wish it were only a suggestion of a situation21:52
ikoniajaenie: just so you're aware a lot of the multihead issues have been found and resolved/acceptable work around in place21:52
ikoniahence why I suggested working through problems on a supported distro, but that of course is your call21:53
jaenieikonia, i wasted hours and hours in the past couple of months trying those out, waiting for updates, using edgers, compiliing on my own, etc, etc.  its quite the comedy.  FINALLY i get it all working just right with xfce... only to find the mouse gets stuck on the primary screen.  known issues, multi-reported. no solution.21:54
jaenieand its not an xfce issue21:54
jaenieand it happens on ATI and Nvidia21:54
Azishelo21:54
ikoniaI'm not going to argue it - it's up to you,21:54
Azislets distrurb you21:54
jaeniewhat's up to me?21:54
Azishttp://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f149/138283d1268539537-self-castration-cast.jpg21:55
ikoniajaenie: how you move on21:55
jaenieikonia, if only there were viable options.21:56
jaenieanyhow, thanks for trying, all21:56
c0nn3x0ranybody home? what channel it is?21:56
ikoniac0nn3x0r: this is ubuntu, for ubuntu support21:56
c0nn3x0rhmm.. is for developing?21:57
Dr_willis'for developing' is a broad topic21:57
c0nn3x0rif support? what must i do? i just want to chit chat ;)21:58
ikoniac0nn3x0r: try the channel #defocus for that21:58
ikoniac0nn3x0r: /join #defocus21:58
ikoniac0nn3x0r: that's a random chat channel21:58
Shadowandlightis it possible to roll back from django 1.6 to 1.4.3?21:58
c0nn3x0rokeoke,, but i think.. #ubuntu channel is the best :D21:58
ikoniac0nn3x0r: how do you know, as you didn't even know what channel you where in21:59
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histo!info django21:59
kc__help, everytime i boot ubuntu it hangs at a purple screen, i am using a live cd now21:59
ubottuPackage django does not exist in raring21:59
ikoniac0nn3x0r: this channel is for ubuntu discussion, so if you can keep with that, you'll be fine21:59
histo!nomodeset | kc__21:59
ubottukc__: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:59
c0nn3x0rikonia : cause, its my firs moment i open X-IRC ;)21:59
ikoniac0nn3x0r: right, so I doubt you know ubuntu channel is best, if this is your first time22:00
kc__ubuntu forums are down, and ive tried replacing a line with nomodeset in a text file and it didnt work22:00
Dr_williskc__,  you did try the nomodeset option at the grub menu?22:00
kc__yes22:01
Dr_willisand if you mean altersed the /etc/default/grub file you DID run sudo update-grub after editing the file?22:01
c0nn3x0ryups. cause, the chatters is good ;)22:01
c0nn3x0rikonia : like u?22:01
Dr_willistheres also the text option to get to a console22:01
c0nn3x0rwkwk22:01
Dr_willis!text22:01
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode22:01
c0nn3x0rwhat do i must for mention ur name? ikonia?22:01
clue_hhi does anyone know of a cli dictionary tool that does not require a server setup like dict, and is not sdvc22:01
c0nn3x0rping22:01
ikoniac0nn3x0r: the topic of this channel is ubuntu discussion, can you please keep to that22:02
c0nn3x0roohh.. oke, oke..22:02
c0nn3x0rif u have a n ubuntu OS for first time, what first you do for develop it?22:03
goddardhow can i install LAMP without making it auto start on the system?22:03
ikoniac0nn3x0r: learn a programming language22:03
ikoniagoddard: install it, then disable it22:03
goddardikonia: i was hoping for a way I can turn it off and on semi-quickly22:03
ikoniagoddard: you can, it's 1 command22:04
goddardikonia: how are the start up services registered?22:04
ikonia(or change to 1 config file)22:04
ikoniagoddard: using upstart22:04
ozzloygoddard, sudo service apache start/stop22:04
c0nn3x0rhhmm... u mean, bash? but, how if installing any software? like apt-get commands?22:04
ikoniac0nn3x0r: https://help.ubuntu.com explains how to use it22:04
ozzloyor maybe it's apache222:04
FoxandxssHi, excuse me, I am not an ubuntu user but I got a ubuntu server vps. There is no wheel group?22:05
c0nn3x0rhhmm.. but i dont interested for open it ;)22:05
ikoniac0nn3x0r: then don't ask22:05
ikoniaFoxandxss: what version of ubuntu ?22:05
Foxandxss13.0422:05
ikoniaFoxandxss: the group is "sudo" I think on 13.0422:05
Dr_williswheel for sudo/root rights has not been used in ubuntu in ages..22:05
Foxandxssoh, great22:05
Dr_willissudo or admin. i forget. ;) not wheel22:06
ikoniaFoxandxss: also your vps provider may have altered the permissions model22:06
Foxandxsssorry, old school here Dr_willis22:06
c0nn3x0rhhmm.. okeoke, pardon me.. i just confused, what i must do if i was installing python, perl, clgi, etc.. for coding =))22:06
ikoniaDr_willis: admin before 12.04 - sudo after (I think)22:06
ikoniac0nn3x0r: open the web page and read how to use the package manager22:06
ikoniac0nn3x0r: it explains it22:06
Foxandxssyay thanks ikonia :)22:07
Dr_willis!manual | c0nn3x0r22:07
ubottuc0nn3x0r: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/22:07
ozzloyikonia, have you ever been fairly certain someone was being a huge troll and then found out they were genuine the whole time?22:07
c0nn3x0rhhmm.. do u use ubuntu just for coding? or theres any purpose again? such hacking?22:07
ikoniaozzloy: not from memory22:07
ikoniac0nn3x0r: anything you want22:07
c0nn3x0rhmm.. is ur mean Ubuntu "Linux For Human Beings" ?22:08
histoc0nn3x0r: what is your native language?22:08
c0nn3x0rIm indonesian, how bout u?22:08
ikoniac0nn3x0r: try the channel #ubuntu-in22:09
ikoniac0nn3x0r: people use your native language in there22:09
luke1_hey22:09
histo!in | c0nn3x0r22:09
ubottuc0nn3x0r: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India22:10
c0nn3x0rhhmm.. is ur mean #ubuntu-ID ?22:10
ikonia#ubuntu-d22:10
ikonia#ubuntu-id22:10
ikoniasorry, my mistake22:10
c0nn3x0ri knew, In is code for inda22:10
ss_hazeI feel like I want to change aproxiamate position of unity panel - do I get code of Unity and everything so I can try to change some variables?22:11
luke1_its #ubuntu-in i think22:11
euxnekshowdy, is there a way I can initiate wireless on the CLI so I might actually get some useful error messages? As it is right now, wireless is not connecting to a wireless network after a restart.22:11
c0nn3x0rin #ubuntu-ID channel nobody who hangouts there, cause indonesian people more like with forum then chat. are u understand what i mean?22:11
luke1_oh22:11
ikoniac0nn3x0r: yes22:12
c0nn3x0rbrb !22:12
luke1_whats the difference between x chat and gnome x chat?22:12
Dr_willisgnome xchat is more dumbed down22:12
Dr_willismost people hate it.22:12
marculesGood Evening :)22:12
mjaykDr_willis: sounds like you can remove xchat from that sentence :D22:13
c0nn3x0rgood evening too marcules, but in my country it was morning :D22:13
Dr_willishuh?22:13
mjayklol dont worry i was being a bitch :)22:13
Dr_willis:P22:13
ikoniamjayk: tone it down a bit please.22:13
mjaykyesir22:13
ikoniathanks22:13
luke1_im using gnome x chat because i found it in the software center and i didn't find just plain x chat22:13
Dr_willisluke1_,  its in there22:14
Dr_willis!info xchat22:14
ubottuxchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (raring), package size 348 kB, installed size 891 kB22:14
luke1_oh.22:14
luke1_i'll look again22:14
hstefanHello. We are installing a new service on our server at the company, so I went off to check that machine... and apparently it hasn't been updated since 2009. I really want to update this thing, any strategy that I should follow to avoid rendering it useless?22:14
ikonia!upgrade | hstefan22:14
ubottuhstefan: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade22:14
jribhstefan: step 1: make backups so you can revert to current state.  step 2) see ubottu (I'd suggest upgrading to latest LTS (12.04)22:15
luke1_i all can find in the software center for a search for"x chat" is gnome x chat,pidgin and mangler22:15
mjayki do not like rosey webster at all22:16
luke1_i mean all i22:16
ikonialuke1_: it's xchat - that's it22:16
histo!eol | hstefan22:16
mjaykluke1_: apt-get install xchat should work ?22:16
ubottuhstefan: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:16
ikoniamjayk: stop it22:16
ikoniamjayk: the channel is ubuntu support22:16
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hstefanHow can I backup the entire state of the system? I'm thinking something like windows' restore points22:16
histo!backup | hstefan22:17
ubottuhstefan: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning22:17
ikoniajrib: do you think it's worth putting a good backup / clear backup warning in that upgrade guide22:17
luke1_mjayk:sudo apt-get install xchat worked. thanks.22:17
marculesI've got a tiny little problem with my setup here and thought you guys can help... after a while the display manager won't render "everything" - Images/Websites become black und text is disappearing...22:18
mjaykluke1_: nps enjoy22:18
jribikonia: it should be common sense, but it wouldn't hurt!22:18
marculesI'm stuck with 12.04 here because of some company proprietary software22:18
luke1_thanky you22:18
luke1_i mean thank22:18
luke1_i need to type slower22:18
marculeshttp://i.imagebanana.com/img/h7nbmpme/Selection_038.png22:18
ikoniajrib: there are a few pages that could do with that, I may knock something up and ask you to put some input in place.22:18
jribikonia: sure22:19
dirtydaw1ls22:21
Dr_willisfile not found22:22
marcules[41444.210882] [drm:drm_gem_create_mmap_offset] *ERROR* failed to allocate offset for bo 0 << I'm getting hundreds of these in dmesg22:26
euxneksfor those who see the logs for this in the future, I found a log with lots of info for NetworkManager in /var/log/syslog22:28
Shadowandlightim trying to install a custom app on VM, and its not working correctly.  The dev suggested that "It means that your PIL or Pillow installation doesn't have freetype support. You need to install PIL or Pillow with freetype support." however "apt-get install python-imaging"  "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart"... did not fix the issue22:30
ikoniaShadowandlight: you need to get specific details of the requirements from the vendor22:31
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Shadowandlightthe only packages mentioned (i've installed all of them without any errors i can see) are taskel, phpmyadmin, python-setuptools, python-dev, make, apache2-dev, libevent-dev, python-mysqldb22:32
ikoniaShadowandlight: you need to ask them for specific packages/software versions then22:33
ikoniaShadowandlight: if the developer is telling you it's missing something - then he should be able to tell you specifically what it's missing22:33
Shadowandlightok22:33
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marculesOh, I found my issue https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3955222:38
ubottuFreedesktop bug 39552 in Driver/intel "intel_uxa_prepare_access() fails with -ENOSPC (bo leak, unreaped bo cache?)" [Major,Resolved: fixed]22:39
anoneemay i ask whether i can ask this question?22:43
ikoniaanonee: is it an ubuntu questoin22:43
ikoniaquestion22:43
anoneelol ikonia yes22:43
anoneeikonia everything is related.22:45
ikoniaanonee: is this related to ubuntu (your question)22:45
OerHeksJust ask your ubuntu question, anonee22:46
jlundIf anyone has a Ubuntu server at DigitalOcean, I just published this advisory: http://missingm.co/2013/07/identical-droplets-in-the-digitalocean-regenerate-your-ubuntu-ssh-host-keys-now/22:50
jribjlund: I've noticed that's an issue with lots of vps providers22:51
jlundjrib: Yeah, I suspect mostly with smaller ones. Rackspace, Amazon and Linode are all doing it right. DigitalOcean is now, too.22:52
Ntemishello22:54
Ntemisi seek help22:54
Ntemisi have broken packages22:54
Ntemisbut22:54
Ntemispackages need ubuntu 12.04.522:54
Ntemisi have 12.04.222:54
Ntemisapt tels me am up2date22:54
anoneeis there ubuntu 12.04.5 ?22:54
Ntemisdunno22:55
ougogoHi all. I've a server with CSF/LFD firewall. How can I create a shell script who open a port TCP/UDP, and an other that will close same port TCP/UDP. But I don't want to flush all iptables à the beginning. Just add port, restart, use port, close port, restart. Thanks !22:55
jribNtemis: what packages need it exactly?  Be more detailed.22:55
Ntemistransmission : Depends: transmission-gtk (>= 2.81-0ubuntu0.12.04.5) but it is not going to be installed or22:55
Ntemis                         transmission-qt (>= 2.81-0ubuntu0.12.04.5) but it is not going to be installed or22:55
Ntemis                         transmission-cli (>= 2.81-0ubuntu0.12.04.5) but it is not going to be installed22:55
NtemisE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.22:55
Ntemisthanks in advance22:56
bazhangougogo, try #netfilter22:56
wilee-nileeNtemis, Please use pastebin in the future22:56
Ntemisokey sorry22:56
jribNtemis: use a pastebin to paste full input and full output.  Also, tell us what you have done regarding packages and repositories (including any non-standard repositories you have enabled and any packages you have installed outside the repositories)22:56
Ntemismy machine states Operating system Ubuntu Linux 12.04.222:56
Ntemisi added transmission ppa and sabnzbplus ppa22:57
Ntemisthast all22:57
Ntemisthats all22:57
jribNtemis: the regular update procedure takes you through the point releases for 12.04.  All 12.04 are the same (some are just updated more recently)22:57
jribNtemis: ok.  Pastebin what I asked22:57
anoneeOkay, I actually need to throw my box out of the window. does this argument have backward compatibility with ubuntu 11?22:58
ougogobazhang Thanks, I go look that !22:58
bazhang!ot | anonee22:58
ubottuanonee: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:58
ferieGoodmoning22:59
benbloomIs there a way to output installation logs from a unetboot instalation media?23:01
benbloomI'm trying to talk my mother through installation over the phone, so she's using the GUI to install, but I23:01
benbloom'd like to be able to find out why it's failing23:02
feriehi i do use ubuntu on my laptop. but i what to reinstall my main work computer to sam. but . i run a remote windows program to control a dvr-cam 21 cams. is  there a linux program i can use to remote connect a dvr recorter system. (sorry my bad ensk.)23:03
Ntemisjrib: http://pastebin.com/9wZS8XGV23:04
feriebenbloom: nomal ctrl+alt+F2  look in /var/logs i beliv there is a log there23:05
msatawhen i run #easy23:05
benbloomty ferie.23:05
sunnyjayferie, try wine23:05
jribNtemis: I asked for full input and output for the error you pasted23:05
Ntemisoh23:06
feriesunnyjay: i have try but it is no go whe wine.23:06
msatawhen i run #easy_install pyasn1 it says easy_install not installed even thou i have already done apt-get install python-setuptools. PLEASE HELP!23:06
jribNtemis: you also have repositories here other than what you said...23:06
Ntemisi do?23:06
jribNtemis: webmin23:06
Ntemisah23:06
daixtrhi how do i change the text color when I do 'vi testfile.c' in ubuntu?23:06
Ntemisyeah is a server23:06
Ntemisi need webmin23:06
jribdaixtr: you can use a different colorscheme23:07
deynekoHi all, I first time here :) I need help. So first I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Decktop AMD Phenom II x4 3.20 / RAM 4 / Mother: M4A78T-E / video: ASUS Radeon EAH5750 /HDD: checked - OK. Problem: the system randomly freezes: mouse doesn't work, no alt+ctrl+F1, no reaction by REUSIB. Then I installed 13.04 it is same situation but it is more like problem with video card with default driver as well with proprietary driver. I can not23:07
deyneko install proprietary driver. I mean catalyst said that videocard not correct.23:07
daixtri tried that, but none fits what i like23:07
jribNtemis: I'm just stating that you said you only did one thing and in fact it is not true.  By the way though webmin is not suggested nor recommended23:07
daixtri tried that in 'profiles'23:07
jrib!webmin | Ntemis23:07
ubottuNtemis: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.23:07
sunnyjayferie, is ur dvr has web access?23:07
feriesunnyjay: yep but it will only work whe i install a internet explore .cab file.23:08
Ntemiswebmin is the defacto free server manage tool for many people23:08
Ntemisi cant find a free replacement23:08
jrib!ebox | Ntemis23:08
ubottuNtemis: zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).23:08
Ntemisif you know any please tell23:08
feriedeyneko: try go to default vga update the driver. and start over23:08
msatawhen i run #easy_install pyasn1 it says easy_install not installed even thou i have already done apt-get install python-setuptools. PLEASE HELP!23:09
msataANYONE>23:09
feriemsata: nomal you do not use apt-get to python.23:09
Ntemisi think that cant do what webmin can23:09
Ntemisi will have a look though23:10
jribmsata: why are you using easy_install as root?23:10
sunnyjayferie, try safari browser on ubuntu23:10
msatadunno what should i be using?23:10
msatahow do i install pyasn1 as root23:10
feriesunnyjay: do safari support .cab files ?23:10
deynekoferie yes I tried but situation same - random freezing when I can only use reset buton. Actually I use same distributiv on a noutbook (I'm writing from it) - and it is OK23:10
jribmsata: ideally you would be using apt-get to install your python packages if you need them system-wide.  Even better, if you need this for some sort of project, you would use virtualenv (and pip)23:11
feriedeyneko: can you get to a terminal on it. ?23:11
jribmsata: you can install this package using apt-get: sudo apt-get install python-pyasn123:11
sunnyjayferie, check this link http://www.filecrop.com/safari-browser.cab.html23:11
deynekoafter freezing no, but I have a time before freezing23:11
feriethanks sunnyjay i will try whe safari23:12
msataunable to locate package python-pyasn123:12
ikoniaferie: hang on23:12
msata?23:12
ikoniasunnyjay: is safari available for linux23:12
sunnyjayferie, let me know if it solves your problem23:12
ikoniaferie: don't download anything from that site23:12
ikoniaferie: it is not to be trusted23:12
jribmsata: what ubuntu version?23:12
msata12.04.0223:13
jrib!who  | msata23:13
ubottumsata: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:13
Ntemisjrib: is this free? http://www.zentyal.com/pricing-editions/23:13
feriesunnyjay: open your computer and tag out the card start up remove the driver. and back whe the card23:13
ikoniaferie: do you understand those files are high risk23:13
msatajrib: 12.04.0223:13
msata!tab23:13
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.23:13
jribNtemis: I imagine the community edition is23:13
ferieikonia: i know. i will not try23:13
ikoniaferie: ok, great, just checking23:13
Ntemisyeah but no raid management for servers23:14
Ntemisso scrap23:14
jrib!info python-pyasn1 precise | msata23:14
ubottumsata: python-pyasn1 (source: pyasn1): ASN.1 library for Python. In component main, is optional. Version 0.0.11a-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 29 kB, installed size 229 kB23:14
jribmsata: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again23:14
clj_newb_2345I have 1)  mac mini, 2) a laptop, 3) network cables / router and 4) no monitor. Is there some way of installing ubuntu on the mac mini? i.e. some way for the mac mini to boot off a cd, which opens up a ssh port, which I can ssh in (over my LAN) from my laptop ... and then install from there23:15
ikoniaclj_newb_2345: burn ubuntu to cd - put ubuntu cd in mac mini, boot mac mini from cd, install ubuntu23:15
clj_newb_2345I don't have an external monitor23:15
ikoniaclj_newb_2345: ooh I see23:15
clj_newb_2345https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole might be what I want23:16
Ntemisjrib: zentyal-samba - Zentyal - File Sharing Service are those guys serious lol23:16
Ntemiswebmin all the way!23:16
Ntemisscapyal23:16
jribNtemis: it's your server; just keep in mind it's not recommended nor supported23:17
Ntemisi can live without transmission bt23:17
Ntemisi will notify ppa guys23:17
Ntemisthanks for the help23:17
msatajrib: you are correct it was the update23:18
jribmsata: cool23:18
msatajrib: but for some reason it fails updating, i can't even do a wget on a site. but i can ping google?23:18
deynekoferie: about access to terminal - after freezing no, but I have a time before freezing23:18
PinkSwingI'm having problems with draftSight. I have managed to install it using this tutorial http://linuxaideddesign.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/draftsight-and-ubuntu-1204-lts-64bit.html   However, when draftSight runs, most of the screen does not update and the mouse disappears when it moves over this non-updating region. It seems to be loading files as the drop-down lists show correct layers and linetypes from my drawing and the correct layout tabs but the drawin23:19
Kitt3nSo, I opened a minimized Konsole window and my computer restarted without actually turning off and closed all my programs23:19
Kitt3nwhat23:19
ikoniaKitt3n: sounds like your xserver crashed23:19
feriedeyneko: can you open the computer tag out the screen card, boot up and remove the driver. back whe the card and update.23:20
Kitt3nikonia, Okay? How can I check that out23:20
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ikoniaKitt3n: re-test it23:21
c_smith_hey, I'm installing rEFInd on my system, and want to know if the gnuefi version would work on a system with UEFI.23:21
c_smith_does any one know?23:21
msatajrib: i added 8.8.8.8 as a name server to /etc/resolv.conf and it started working23:21
msatajrib: thanks dude!23:21
DrekiCan someone help me diagnose a problem I am having with Xubuntu? I'm getting a ~60 second hang on login just after I put in my password.23:22
deynekoferie: sorry I didn't understand exactly... I have access to ubuntu files from windows. I can remove driver. But at present there are files for proprietary driver but system said that it use default one.23:22
Kitt3nikonia, I launched Konsole, minimized it and reopened it, boom same crash23:22
ikoniaKitt3n: get a bug logged23:23
Kitt3nikonia, about? KDE's console emulator crashing and no idea what is actually doing it?23:23
feriedenwerko: so you can ssh to the computer or ?23:24
denwerkoferie, yep, i can23:24
denwerkosorry for afk23:24
denwerkoehm, you probably got wrong name... deyneko ?23:24
ikoniaKitt3n: I'd put it against the KDE desktop in general rather than konsole23:25
ikoniaKitt3n: put all the details in23:25
Kitt3nikonia, Okay, I found something similar, and it's linked to AMD. Not a big surprise23:25
feriedenwerko: okay what the name of the card ?23:25
DrekiCan someone help me diagnose a problem I am having with Xubuntu? I'm getting a ~60 second hang on login just after I put in my password. I have been having the problem for a few months, I haven't been able to figure out why.23:25
deynekoferie if you asking me about ssh - no I can not use it just don't know how23:25
feriedeyneko: i will help you23:26
Kitt3nikonia, yes, it's indeed AMD. I resized Konsole's window and the same thing happened. Fun.23:26
deynekoferie: ASUS Radeon EAH575023:26
ikoniaKitt3n: get it logged, it's reproducable23:27
XLVanyone else having trouble updating through update manager in DE?23:27
Kitt3nikonia, it's already logged23:27
feriedeyneko: google putty and download it23:27
ikoniaKitt3n: by you or someone else23:27
Kitt3nSomeone else having the same problem.23:27
ikoniaKitt3n: ahh23:27
joshuhey I'm trying to create a deb from an open source project so I can build once and then move the binary product to other machines. I'm using this: sudo checkinstall -fstrans=no -install=no -pkgversion="1.1.0-beta1" -pkgname=freerdp -y -requires=libavcodec5323:27
Kitt3nikonia, LONG ago too23:28
joshunever used check install so any feedback is welcome23:28
ikoniajoshu: don't do it23:28
Guest97433yooooooo23:28
ikoniajoshu: build packages properly23:28
deynekoferie OK I'will download23:28
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joshuikonia hey. is that difficult?23:28
CheeseMastayeah buddy!23:28
ikoniajoshu: more work, but no, you should be able to manage fine23:29
ikoniajoshu: you know freerdp is in the repos already23:29
joshuikonia old version23:29
joshu:(23:29
ikoniajoshu: do you need the newer version ?23:29
joshuyeah the ubuntu one is 1.0.1 and is broken. the freerdp-team have a PPA which is the newer stable one 1.0.2 but it too is broken. I've spent several days trying to get help with this, but in the end I've had to build it myself.23:30
KuroshitaHey guys, I'm running into a major issue here. Everytime I visit a particular website, X crashes. Here's a paste of the piped error by firefox http://paste.ubuntu.com/5927095/ I am using Ubuntu 13.0423:31
ikoniajoshu: broken ?23:31
EnthusiasticGoerhey guys.  if I have two clients trying to modify an object A to the same server, how do i make sure that only one of the clients succeeds?23:31
joshuikonia I go through the motions, cmake, make and then sudo make install. But now I want to move this to several ubuntu machines and I don't want to spend hours trying to figure out how to build a package. Otherwise I'll just have to copy over the whole build directory.23:31
joshuikonia yeah printer redirection etc, the freerdp-team PPA won't even run for me at all23:32
ikoniajoshu: yeah, you want to build this into a proper package23:32
c_smith_so, does anyone know if gnuefi would work on UEFI?23:32
deyneko<ferie> I've dowloaded the putty23:33
feriedeyneko: i will msg you now much text i will sent you23:33
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feriemy irssi is flipping out. so maning quits and connects23:39
joshuikonia is it a long procedure to build a package properly? any good guide, recipe that I can follow?23:40
ikonia!packaging | joshu23:40
ubottujoshu: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring23:40
ikoniajoshu: first one will be a bit messy, but you'll soon get the hang of it23:40
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joshuikonia http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html#starting-a-package upstream tar ball do I need to download the git repo as a tar for this step?23:43
ikoniajoshu: just tar it up23:44
Zandro!seen helol23:45
ubottuI have no seen command23:45
delinquentmeunix command to change a number of filenames23:46
joshuok and should I remove ubuntu's bundled xfreerdp before building a package and installing it later to avoid conflicts or will mine overwrite ubuntu's version?23:46
delinquentmesay like ls . | mv x*.rb x23:47
jribdelinquentme: use "rename"23:47
delinquentmejrib, example of how to rename all blahX.rb to blahX23:49
jribdelinquentme: rename 's/.rb$//' *X.rb23:50
Shadowandlightanyone have an idea on how to get freetype 2 / zlib support for PIL on Ubuntu? - https://privatepaste.com/26bf9ff10623:50
jribdelinquentme: use rename with -n, so that it will not change anything.  It will just tell you what it would do.  Safer this way23:50
jribShadowandlight: doesn't the package have it?   Where are you getting the output you pasted...?23:51
delinquentmejrib, noted23:51
Shadowandlightjrib: that output was from running "sudo apt-get install python-dev zlib1g-dev libfreetype6-dev"  then "pip install --upgrade PIL"23:52
ikoniaShadowandlight: pip is bad23:52
Shadowandlighteasy_install then?23:53
ikoniaeasy_install is bad23:53
Shadowandlightor apt-get?23:53
jribShadowandlight: why don't you use the "python-imaging" package with apt-get?  Anyway, if you need to use pip (for example in virtualenv), install pillow, not PIL23:53
joshuok good night23:54
vaskaloidishey I installed Ubuntu on my HD on another computer than booted it off the computer i intend to use it on, and when I try to configure the ethernet that is on the motherboard I keep getting an "cannot find device eth0, failed to bring up eth0" error23:55
vaskaloidisI have configured the interfaces file correctly I beleive23:55
histovaskaloidis: does lspci   show the ethernet card?23:55
vaskaloidishisto: yes it shows the motherboard ethernet jack, the extra ethernet card I have installed and the wireless ethernet card I have23:56
histovaskaloidis: does ifconfig show eth0?23:57
vaskaloidisno just lo23:57
vaskaloidiswait now eth1 came up23:57
histovaskaloidis: do you have multiple nics?23:57
vaskaloidisyes23:57
vaskaloidishisto: eth1 never showed up before23:57
vaskaloidisand idk how it did histo because I commented it out of the interfaces file23:58

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