[00:00] <jrib> ^Mike: also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh#function
[00:00] <MathCubes_> @Dr_willis I tr to re wight it it says it is write-protected,
[00:00] <Dr_willis> ^Mike,  id just make a shells script called 'e' in the bin dir.
[00:00] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  try to write to it with what exactly?
[00:01] <jrib> ^Mike: if you need bashisms then either check that you're in bash (see /etc/profile for an example of how) or use /etc/bash.bashrc
[00:01] <MathCubes_> I try to rewight all the bits that has a 1 into
[00:01] <MathCubes_> 0
[00:02] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  try to rewrite with WHAT APP?
[00:02] <MathCubes_> k3b and the terminal
[00:03] <Dr_willis> brassero has a 'blank the cd' item in its menu
[00:03] <Dr_willis> do NOT mount the disk befor trying to blank it.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[00:05] <Dr_willis> To reuse a rewritable CD or DVD you first need to 'blank' the disk. This erases the old data and prepares the disk for new data.
[00:05] <Dr_willis>     wodim -vv dev=/dev/cdrw blank=all
[00:05] <MathCubes_> I tried that
[00:05] <^Mike> jrib: Thanks for the tip. Looks like another bashism is the word "function"
[00:05] <humo0915> Can anyone help me please, after my laptod lid is opened the screen stays black with no response at all, it only happens when lid is closed and then opened
[00:06] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/one-click-erase-of-cd-rw-dvd-rw-rewritable-discs-in-ubuntu/
[00:06] <MathCubes_> I trI did it
[00:06] <MathCubes_> thank you and bye
[00:07] <Dr_willis> humo0915,  so if you close it and then never open it - it dosent stay black? or am i confused here as to that last bit.
[00:11] <Atlantis> Hello!
[00:11] <curatrix> Hi
[00:12] <humo0915> sorry english is not my native language, What I meaned is that it doesnt happen when you leave the laptop open for a long time and it goes to sleep
[00:12] <Atlantis> One, second. Did my colour change?
[00:12] <Atlantis> Nope, it didn't..
[00:13] <allan_> Oi
[00:13] <Atlantis> FUSRODAU
[00:13] <Dr_willis> Atlantis,  why would you think the color would change?
[00:13]  * curatrix grabs Atlantis  by the arm and calls out "found you"
[00:13] <Atlantis> Becuause I thought I'd changed it in settings...
[00:13] <Dr_willis> humo0915,  so you mean to say the laptop 'crashes' when you close the lid - instead of suspending?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> Atlantis,  irc dosent really work that way
[00:14] <Atlantis> Okay....
[00:14] <Dr_willis> MY client uses the colors I tell it to. :)  i dont see what you set.
[00:14]  * Dr_willis colors Atlantis  hot puce.
[00:14] <Atlantis> curatrix... Ummm, hi!
[00:15] <majdi> my opt folder is missing after the latest update to ubuntu 12.04, anyone with this problem?
[00:15] <Atlantis> What is hot puce?
[00:15] <Dr_willis> a light red color. would you perfer lime green?
[00:16] <curatrix> majdi: Are you sure that you are looking in /    ?
[00:16] <Atlantis> Maybe it's becuase I'm on Xchat (an aplication version) but I don't see a difference...
[00:16] <Atlantis> But, I like the light red!
[00:16] <Dr_willis> Atlantis,  im not even sure what you are expecting. Xchat has color themes and settings that you would see on your end. we dont see what colors you set your client to use
[00:16] <allan_> no problem dual booting?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> allan_,  err.. No. none here.
[00:17] <Atlantis> Okay...
[00:17] <allan_> Dr_willis windows 8 and ubuntu ?
[00:17] <allan_> have a problem?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> allan_,  i dont use windows 8 - others in here have done it befor.
[00:18] <majdi> @ curatrix, yes did a search, it gone, I've never experienced this before, very strange, but it broke some of my apps
[00:18] <allan_> Willis you speak portuguese?
[00:18] <curatrix> majdi: To be honest. The first thing that comes to mind is a hardware failure (most likely in the HDD)
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> allan_, You read the uefi wiki?
[00:19] <Atlantis> Hello everyone!
[00:19] <BabyCat> sdfa\
[00:19] <allan_> No
[00:19] <Atlantis> One second...
[00:20] <majdi> curatrix: everything else is running OK
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | allan_
[00:20] <Atlantis> I have no idea what I'm doing...
[00:20] <allan_> Thanks
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> allan_, I am assuming this is a oem W8 if so it is a uefi gpt setup
[00:22] <dalrog> Hi all. How do I prevent drive device names from changing? If I reboot with phone plugged into USB, my external HD changes from /dev/sdb to /dev/sde. Can these be set to be permanent somehow? Thanks.
[00:22] <allan_> I'm speak portuguese =l
[00:23] <curatrix> majdi: If you dont mind ....Can we double check that /opt is missing?  Please open the file manager and click on file system on the left.
[00:24] <majdi> curatrix: done that, its not there
[00:25] <curatrix> majdi: Does firefox/chromium work?
[00:26] <Dr_willis> dalrog,  they change. thats the reason that the uuid is normally used in /etc/fstab
[00:27] <Dr_willis> dalrog,  if the device/filesysem has a label it should auto mount to /media/whatever/label name  and stay that way
[00:27] <majdi> curatrix: yes, I did a sudo find / -name 'opt' -type d, and got /var/opt, /etc/opt. but contents of these opt folders are different than my root opt or /opt folder
[00:27] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[00:28] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know what is the difference between libreoffice and openofice?
[00:28] <mojtaba> *openoffice?
[00:28] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  openoffice sort of got killed/ruined and became libreoffice
[00:29] <dalrog> Dr_willis: the drives are mounted with truecrypt later so they don't have any mount points in fstab
[00:29] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Thanks
[00:29] <K1rk> mojtaba, personally I prefer LibreOffice.
[00:29] <K1rk> mojtaba, LibreOffice is basically a fork of OpenOffice, from the original developers.
[00:29] <K1rk> mojtaba, OpenOffice is now "owned" by the Apache Software Foundation.
[00:31] <majdi> curatrix: yes, both firefox and chrom work
[00:32] <curatrix> majdi:  Not many things use the /opt directory (google earth is one of the few). Is google earth installed?
[00:34] <majdi> curatrix: don’t have google earth installed, but I had prezi installed and its not working now, also had a samsung printer driver, both using the opt folder and they both not working now
[00:35] <mojtaba> I have made a backup using ubuntu's default backup system (deja du, or whatever), How can I ensure the backup has been made and is ok?
[00:36] <majdi> curatrix: not sure what has caused this? any way of finding out? can i see what the last backup did to my files?
[00:38] <resultant_fierce> I have a question on keyboard configuration, if anyone is an expert on that
[00:39] <Dr_willis> just ask the question and see who answers resultant_fierce . also check askubuntu.com
[00:39] <resultant_fierce> thanks.
[00:39] <curatrix> majdi: opt is storage for software add-ons. I  am guessing that the upgrade has wiped it to ensure that the system has no compatibility issues.  If you backed up prior to the upgrade you should be able to retrieve the lost folder, but I dont think anything in there will work wth the new system.
[00:40] <Dr_willis> i cant recall ever seeing or hearing of the apt package maanger touching stuff in /opt/
[00:40] <Dr_willis> its possible some other updates broke software that is in /opt/ but i wouldent think apt would remove anything from it.
[00:41] <curatrix> majdi: It will require reinstalling prezi and anything you were using
[00:41] <fictionalhippo> Hello, ia there anyone online that can help me with a wireless adapter issue?
[00:41] <curatrix> Dr_willis: Neither have I. Usually it is the opposite with linux ......you end up with a load of crud that cant be used
[00:42] <resultant_fierce> I'm running gnome shell, and I have the super key configured to launch the activities overview - by default.  For emacs, I've reconfigured capslock to be the control.  I'd like to use the right alt-key as the meta key.  Under the keyboard options I can set up the alt keys to be meta - under "Alt and Meta are on alt-keys", but this doesn't work in a terminal window.  If I attempt to hit alt+v for meta+v, I instead end up in the 'V
[00:43] <fictionalhippo> Does anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?
[00:44] <fictionalhippo> Does anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?
[00:44] <goddard> my laptop shuts down when playing games
[00:44] <majdi> Dr_willis: there is no opt folder after the update
[00:45] <Dr_willis> majdi,  outout of ls -ld /opt   shows what?
[00:46] <majdi> Dr_willis: No such file or directory
[00:46] <resultant_fierce> goddard: is it just a specific game?
[00:47] <majdi> Dr_willis: is there a way I can check if the update manager removed the opt folder?
[00:47] <fictionalhippo> Does anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> majdi,   not that i know of.. apt shouldent be removeing directories like that
[00:51] <majdi> Dr_willis: any way to check if it was deleted?
[00:51] <curatrix> majdi: try looking in /var/log/
[00:52] <Tiweh> Ok will try.
[00:53] <curatrix> majdi: sorry   /var/log/at
[00:53] <Dr_willis>  /var/log/apt  ;)
[00:53] <curatrix>  /var/log/apt
[00:53] <curatrix> lol ty Dr
[00:53] <Dr_willis> look in /lost+found also  ;P
[00:54] <Dr_willis> i would think it more likely the fs got currupted. and fscking moved /opt/ then apt moveing it.
[00:55] <Tiweh> My ubuntu non pes install is bootin to tty. No GUi.
[00:55] <Tiweh> pae
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I could not for the life of me figure out that ./install in  root on that tar, lol
[00:58] <amyassin> my laptop has temperature problem since I installed Raring.. Does anyone got that?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> no biggie. ;)
[00:59] <fictionalhippo> Can someone please help me with a wireless adapter issue?
[00:59] <bazhang> !wifi | fictionalhippo have a read first
[01:00] <equus> fictionalhippo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[01:00] <amyassin> I can't find something about temperature problem in Raring
[01:01] <majdi> Dr_wills: can i check a log for fscking?
[01:01] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  install what ./install? if the tar extracts and makes a  ~/theapp2.0/theappinstaller   you would cd theapp2.0 then ./theappinstaller
[01:01] <Dr_willis> majdi,  i dont even know if fsck keeps a log.
[01:01] <Dr_willis> majdi,  if fsck moved stuff it would be in /lost+found
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, There is a read, and it says ./install run as root, and there is a text called install, here is the web info, all a bit beyond my skills. http://www.firetrust.com/en/products/mailwasher-enterprise-server/support/linux-installation-instructions#installation
[01:03] <majdi> Dr_willis: nothing in /lost+found and nothing showing in /var/log/apt that might have caused this
[01:03] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  so you just do a 'cd wheevertheinstallfileisat'  then 'sudo ./install'
[01:04] <Dr_willis> cd mwes-xxxx   (replace xxx with the right numbers)   then    sudo ./install
[01:05] <majdi> Dr_willis: any way to detect if the fs is corrupted?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> majdi,  boot live cd, and run fsck on it  would check it
[01:06] <majdi> Dr_willis: will do, thanks a lot
[01:06] <majdi> curatrix: thank you to
[01:07] <majdi> Dr_willis: can I just create the opt folder if no fix for this?
[01:07] <curatrix> majdi: np. Sorry I couldnt have been more help. :)
[01:07] <Dr_willis> majdi,  reinstall your apps if you want to use them.   i dont see what making a empty /opt/ directory will help. :)   assuming cd /opt/  shows its truely not there.
[01:08] <Dr_willis> cd /opt   does give back 'file not found'  ?
[01:09] <amyassin> So I'm guessing nobody had such a problem...
[01:09] <JoshMcCullough> hey all
[01:09] <majdi> Dr_willis:  cd /opt
[01:09] <majdi> bash: cd: /opt: No such file or directory
[01:09] <JoshMcCullough> whats a good webcam server?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> amyassin,  askubuntu.com has a great many people with fan and overheating issues in various releases.
[01:11] <majdi> thank you all
[01:16] <RobertBColton> guys i need help
[01:16] <RobertBColton> i installed virtualbox
[01:16] <RobertBColton> and it fuckin crashed my network driver
[01:16] <RobertBColton> idk wtf is wrong
[01:16] <amyassin> Dr_willis: thanks.. I'll check 'em
[01:16] <RobertBColton> the internet was workign fine for it and the host
[01:16] <RobertBColton> then i shut off virutalbox and restarted
[01:16] <RobertBColton> nothing
[01:17] <RobertBColton> nada
[01:17] <RobertBColton> zilch my fuckin internet wont work
[01:17] <RobertBColton> someone pls help ~
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> !language | RobertBColton
[01:18] <RobertBColton> help !
[01:19] <bazhang> RobertBColton, be patient
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, Thanks I git the tar installed it was a beta so was not running right so just removed it.
[01:20] <RobertBColton> this is rediculous though
[01:20] <RobertBColton> installing virtualbox should not be so dangerous as to fux my network
[01:20] <bazhang> RobertBColton, stop the cursing
[01:20] <thinclient> RobertColton: try this in terminal:  sudo dhclient eth0
[01:21] <RobertBColton> thinclient: file exists.
[01:22] <thinclient> did it revive your network?  (ps that was a zero in eth0).
[01:22] <RobertBColton> thinclient: no it did not that was all it said
[01:22] <RobertBColton> RTNETLINKI answers: File exists
[01:23] <RobertBColton> thinclient: so now what?
[01:24] <thinclient> RoberBColton: not sure sorry. Hopefully someone here has a solution.
[01:25] <thinclient> RobertBColton:  Did you install virtualbox from apt-get or elsewhere?
[01:25] <RobertBColton> thinclient: ubuntu software center
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> RobertBColton, You looked in settings-network-advanced and the cable connected is ticked?
[01:27] <CodeWar> I installed the latest NVIDIA driver and am getting butt kicked since then. Anyways, uninstalled it and am back to the nvidia-current on Ubuntu. But it appears libGL.so.1 has disappeared. Is there a way for me to install a 64bit version of this file?
[01:27] <CodeWar> the NVIDIA uninstaller took it out and now Unity does not work
[01:28] <RobertBColton> wilee-nilee: yes i can ping google.com from terminal with only 4% packet loss
[01:29] <RobertBColton> CodeWar: probably need to reinstall the open source drivers :P
[01:35] <thetinyjesus> RobertBColton, hey im looking into the issue check this out
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> RobertBColton, I always install virtualbox from them and add the extension on that page  and add my self to the users, and it works fine, not sure if the version in the software center is different, I also install the guest additions.
[01:36] <thetinyjesus> in sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[01:36] <thetinyjesus> do you have 2 lines almost exactly the same with NAME="eth0"
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> RobertBColton, There is #vbox as well for more help.
[01:38] <thetinyjesus> RobertBColton,  https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=7749
[01:39] <thetinyjesus> its older but it seems that VB may have setup a different MAC address
[01:39] <mangomania> I'm trying to install 12.04 (single boot) on a Macbook 3,1 using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation . It says to select "msdos" for the partition table, but it says GPT is required for EFI just a few sentences before that. Which one do I need?
[01:43] <fictionalhippo> Ok, I've run the lsusb command and it tells me Bus 001 Device 003: ID 050d:110a Belkin components. This is a wireless adapter for network and i can't seem to get it working. Anyone know info about it?
[01:43] <RobertBColton> u know
[01:43] <RobertBColton> i've had it
[01:43] <RobertBColton> nothing on linux works right
[01:43] <RobertBColton> im just going back to windows
[01:43] <FloodBot1> RobertBColton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <RobertBColton> i was able to use ubuntu fine for several months
[01:43] <thetinyjesus> have fun, guess you didnt bother to read what we sent you
[01:43] <RobertBColton> but its canonical, and their udpates, seriously freakin deadly
[01:43] <RobertBColton> i cant put up with this crap
[01:43] <bazhang> RobertBColton, thats enough
[01:44] <RobertBColton> thetinyjesus: even you do fix this, it doesn't matter, canonical brain dead swill just release more broken updates
[01:44] <RobertBColton> this is the gazillionth time something has gone wrong from updates
[01:44] <thetinyjesus> pretty strange because i've never had my computer break from an update, only me messing something up
[01:44] <fictionalhippo> I did read what you sent me. I'm just providing more information so possibly someone out there could possibly put it in more a more easier term to understand.
[01:45] <thetinyjesus> fictionalhippo, wasn't to you man, was to robert
[01:46] <fictionalhippo> Oh may bad thetinyjesus, came back at the wrong time i guess.
[01:46] <thetinyjesus> fictionalhippo, have you tried googling your specific wireless card ?
[01:48] <equus> fictionalhippo,    lspci                      will probably  show you that your   card is a broadcom chip
[01:52] <thetinyjesus> what exact wireless card is it?
[01:56] <iShotz> Anyone know where I can get AMD drivers for Xubuntu?
[01:56] <danny4way> Hi. I have an error. I can't software update. Whenever I use update manager, it just started to load and shows error saying "failed to download repository information" and below that it says "Check your internet connection
[01:58] <danny4way> Plus I have my internet connection.
[01:58] <OerHeks> danny4way, what ubuntu version ?
[01:59] <danny4way> 13.04
[01:59] <danny4way> I've tried many things. I tried to change server from Untied States to Main Server. It doesn't work.
[01:59] <danny4way> I tried best server too. IT still doesn't work.
[01:59] <thetinyjesus> did you try going to select best server in that menu?
[01:59] <OerHeks> danny4way, try changing the mirror
[02:00] <danny4way> Can you tell me how to change mirror?
[02:01] <OerHeks> open softwarecenter > top panel > edit > sources
[02:03] <Guest65691> hi everyone, I'm having an issue installing a usb wireless adapter on my desktop. It is running ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[02:04] <danny4way> OerHeks, now which mirror do you want me to choose?
[02:04] <danny4way> Because I've tried everything.
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, Can you run lsusb and identify it
[02:04] <Guest65691> yes I can
[02:05] <Guest65691> I have the device ID and all
[02:05] <Guest65691> I found a driver online and used ndiswrapper to install it but got an error in the install
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> tell the channel not me
[02:05] <Guest65691> sorry
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, Any and all details including errors go a long way'
[02:06] <Guest65691> how do I tell the channel haha I'm new to irc
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, I meant in general tell the channel unless you use my nick I assume you telling the channel.
[02:07] <OerHeks> danny4way, close softwarecenter/sources, open terminal and run " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade " # and use paste.ubuntu.com for the output please
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, Just staing the info means to the channel, if someone answers use there nick when answering.
[02:07] <taotao> Hello
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> stating
[02:07] <Guest65691> ah, i understand
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> cool. ;)
[02:08] <Guest65691> wilee-nilee, when I run "sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmn43xx64.inf", it outputs "couldn't find SourceDiskFiles section - continuing anyway..."
[02:09] <danny4way> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923786/
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, What I left out here was I know very little about that, but know that details work for help.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | Guest65691 here is a wiki
[02:11] <OerHeks> danny4way, i see, https://launchpad.net/~dr3mro/+archive/nautilus-actions-extra has no raring packages, remove that ppa and update will run fine
[02:11] <Guest65691> thanks everyone!
[02:11] <Guest65691> I'll check it out
[02:11] <danny4way> And how do i remove that ppa?
[02:12] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[02:12] <danny4way> Please explain to me in details because I just install ubuntu on my laptop a few months ago.
[02:12] <danny4way> Thank you.
[02:12] <OerHeks> or just disable it in sources, but then you will keep those old files.
[02:13] <OerHeks> as it never had packages, ppa purge will be safe
[02:14] <danny4way> Please give me a minute. Thank you.
[02:14] <OerHeks> danny there seems to be an active ppa for those nautilus actions > https://launchpad.net/~nae-team/+archive/ppa
[02:15] <danny4way> Installing command doesn't work.
[02:16] <OerHeks> sudo ppa-purge ppa:dr3mro/nautilus-actions-extra
[02:18] <danny4way> Oh. I thought I can install using command "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge"
[02:18] <danny4way> So I did.
[02:18] <danny4way> And the command you just gave me doesn't work.
[02:19] <OerHeks> ppa-purge is installed default, not?
[02:19] <danny4way> I don't know.
[02:20] <danny4way> But when i type in your command you just gave me, this is what i got.
[02:20] <danny4way> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923809/
[02:21] <sokky_> hello all, any ecrypt pros here?
[02:21] <varunendra> OerHeks, on my 12.04, ppa-purge is not installed by default. Interesting program by the way :)
[02:22] <OerHeks> varunendra, ah i see, that makes it a little harder
[02:23] <varunendra> OerHeks, I just glanced at my IRC client, but can't they just use "apt-get install --print-uris ppa-purge" to get the manual download links to the required packages?
[02:24] <varunendra> so they can install it manually if the normal apt operations are problematic..
[02:24] <danny4way> OerHeks, is there any other solution?
[02:25] <danny4way> The command isn't working. And I can't remove ppa. Well, I mean I might be able to but I don't know how. Please instruct me.
[02:25] <danny4way> I am very new to ubuntu and it's very unlike like windows.
[02:25] <varunendra> OerHeks, just curious, does this program also has the option to re-enable the PPAs?
[02:26] <OerHeks> as alternative solution, disable that ppa in software sources, just unmark, not remove, and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade # and then install ppa-purge
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> I would have them run a apt-get update a broken package maybe
[02:27] <OerHeks> renenable the ppaś  again, and you can fully remove, but hey, that ppa had never packages, so i think removing the list only works too
[02:27] <OerHeks> ppa packages do not survive upgrade, afaik
[02:27] <danny4way> Yeah. Since I don't know about Ubuntu, I just have to listen whatever you have to say.
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Can you run sud apt-get update and pastebin the results.
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> sudo*
[02:28] <danny4way> no I can't
[02:28] <danny4way> It just shows errors.
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, I want to swe the eroors
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> see*
[02:29] <danny4way> Okay. HOld on.
[02:30] <OerHeks> he pasted it a while back
[02:30] <danny4way> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923843/
[02:30] <danny4way> Here
[02:31] <sendaljepit> firewall
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Run gksudo nautilus your in root now be careful go to computer etc/apt/sources.list.d open it and delete those ppa 's then run a upadate again
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> close all that before running the update
[02:35] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, what do you mean by run gksudo nautilus?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, In the terminal it will open your root so you can delete thise ppa's\
[02:36] <nmittal> hello.. ppl.. just installed ubuntu 13.04.. its using the default nouveu driver for graphics.. how can i switch it to the intel driver which also seems to be installed
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, When someone says run here it means in a terminal, unless they say where.
[02:36] <nmittal> i have this onboard vga chip "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)"
[02:37] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, should i install gksudo?
[02:37] <danny4way> It says gksudo is currently not installed. you can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gksu
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, I guess so I forgot that needed to be installed, you will actually see only a put in trash rather than delete I forgot I set my system to bypass trash. However as suggested by the others you can remove theses from another place or untick them.
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, i CAN GET YOU THERE IT MAY BE EASIER.
[02:39] <danny4way> Okay. So I just go to computer then etc then apt then sources.list.d
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> opps sorry for the caps
[02:40] <danny4way> That's okay
[02:40] <danny4way> And i See two files inside sources.list.d
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Cool in that atre the text files you can just open them and put a # at the front of the http
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> are*
[02:41] <danny4way> which one should I open?
[02:41] <danny4way> There are two files.
[02:41] <danny4way> or should I open both?
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Just open the text and put a # in front of the text there, open the ones I think they are both the same except for 32 bit and 64 bit.
[02:42] <Guest65691> wilee-nilee and ubottu, thanks for the help! Your articles helped me. I have internet on my desktop. Have a great night
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> after the # hit the save and close them.
[02:42] <HypnotiX> hello, i am trying to upgrade ubuntu to 13.04 and i get this error: the attempt to mount a file system with type swap in SCS12 (0,0,0), patition 6 sdb at none failed.
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, cool.
[02:42] <danny4way> they already have # in front of them by itself
[02:43] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  perhaps you have an invalid swap partion defined in /etc/fstab
[02:43] <reisio> HypnotiX: it's normal attempting such a thing should fail, but not that it should be attempted in the first place
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, take a screenshot of that
[02:43] <Guest65691> nick ThePoppyMan
[02:43] <Guest65691> fa
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | danny4way
[02:43] <HypnotiX> reisio: what should i do then
[02:43] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  you dont really mount swap partitions anyway.  so that errro/message could be just a red herring.
[02:43] <reisio> HypnotiX: figure out why it's trying to mount a swap partition
[02:43] <amyassin> I'm new here, is ubottu a human or a bot?
[02:44] <HypnotiX> i want to keep windows 7 also
[02:44] <Dr_willis> uBOTu
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !bot
[02:44] <reisio> amyassin: the most annoying bot ever
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> lol
[02:44] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, Okay
[02:44] <ThePoppyMan> yerp
[02:44] <amyassin> lol cool
[02:44] <HypnotiX> reisio: im a linux noob i dont really know how to find that out :)
[02:45] <HypnotiX> Dr_willis: so i should just ignore it
[02:45] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  is the tool failing to work? or just spitting out a message and going on?
[02:46] <reisio> ubottu: prove to the channel that you are annoying
[02:46] <reisio> thanks pal
[02:46] <Woofcat> Is there a channel for ubuntu edge discussion?
[02:46] <HypnotiX> Dr_willis: i will findout right now :)
[02:47] <reisio> Woofcat: it's -touch I believe
[02:47] <Dr_willis> !edge
[02:47] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/265856
[02:47] <reisio> Woofcat: /msg alis list *buntu*
[02:47] <danny4way> here is the screenshot of the first file.
[02:47] <Woofcat> Thanks reisio
[02:48] <HypnotiX> so is 13.04 stable enough yet?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Cool if they both have the # and you are still getting those errors on a update  we can see if you have those PPA's in the regular sources.list
[02:48] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  depends on the details.. stable enough for what? i have no issues with 13.04
[02:49] <danny4way> Wait. No
[02:49] <danny4way> Only first file has # in the front
[02:49] <danny4way> Second file which ends with .save doesn't have # in the front.
[02:49] <HypnotiX> well for example i installed 12.04 yesterday and my video drivers werent working properly, my max resolution was set to 1024
[02:49] <Dr_willis> video card/driver issues can be very dependent on the exact version of the drivers, and kernel. and xorg.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Cool put the # in the other hit save close all that the terminal last and run the sudo apt-get update and look for errors.
[02:49] <danny4way> And When i tried to add # in the front, it says save as, So I tried but it says its read only
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, You opened both from the same pathway
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Ah one is a save, I would just send both to trash, very small data no biggie.
[02:51] <danny4way> But I can't save it now. The other one that ends with .save, when i try to save with # in the front, it tells me to replace it.
[02:51] <HypnotiX> Dr_willis: the installer doesnt seem to be moving, it says removing conflicting operating system files and no progress
[02:52] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  i rarely upgrade. i find clean installs faster these days
[02:52] <danny4way> And when i click on replace, it says "Could not save the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/...ns-extra-raring.list.save.
[02:52] <HypnotiX> alright ill try that
[02:52] <danny4way> And it says under that "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Just close that text with no save and right click both and send to trash, close the folder and the popup then the terminal and open another and run sudo apt-get update
[02:53] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, you want me to send both of those files into trash?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Yes.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> root trash no biggie they are tiny
[02:53] <danny4way> Oh okay.  I will try it.
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> not the most elegant fix, but in this circumstance it works.
[02:54] <danny4way> It won't let me send to trash
[02:54] <savagejen> Well installing Mir has magically made my system super slow
[02:55] <savagejen> either that or the keyboard
[02:55] <speed> hai
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, So if you close al that and then the terminal and run a update again in a new terminal see if you still see the errors on that ppa.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> savagejen, Had to be a PPA and not supported
[02:56] <thinclient> Know a tiny browser that supports flash and javascript?
[02:56] <thinclient> and i mean tiny.
[02:56] <Dr_willis> a tiny browser to run huge bloated flash. ;)
[02:57] <Dr_willis> midori perhaps.
[02:57] <RaveYoda> Hey guys, I need to know the group name for mounting devices such as usbs, cds, dvds, etc. My user can't mount stuff normally
[02:57] <danny4way> Final sentence says "reading package lists ... Done
[02:57] <danny4way> It seems like it's okay now.
[02:57] <savagejen> wilee-nilee, I used this guide
[02:57] <savagejen> http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/
[02:58] <Dr_willis> mir is very much in testing. im not suprised it would be slow.
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Cool, it was hard to tell from here if you had shut off the ppa in another place, at least for me with so many posts.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, The last update you showed showed those still there.
[02:59] <danny4way> I really don't understand what caused this.
[02:59] <danny4way> And it's not working again.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, post all the text in a pastebin
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, and post cat /etc/apt/sources.list as well.
[03:00] <sp2> is there a simple usenet app for pure text, no GUI?
[03:00] <danny4way> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923904/
[03:01] <danny4way> I actually want to run this command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923906/
[03:02] <danny4way> But whenever I try to run sudo apt-get update, it just start to show http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923904 error
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, You running 13.04?
[03:02] <danny4way> Yep
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, There is no release in that ppa for raring
[03:03] <danny4way> Meaning?
[03:03] <danny4way> Those following commands aren't compatible with 13.04 yet?
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, raring is 13.04 there is nothing in that ppa for raring only up to 12.04.
[03:04] <afotek> Is there any safe way to work with NTFS? NTFS-3G messed up my FS last time.
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Not commands but packages.
[03:04] <danny4way> Yeah. So they aren't just compatible yet.
[03:04] <danny4way> So if i want to work with other packages, it will sure work. Right?
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, I thought you were just trying to get rid of the ppa.
[03:05] <danny4way> No. I was actually trying to use following commands
[03:05] <danny4way> But whenver I use sudo apt-get update, it get stuck with errors.
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Can't guarantee anything PPA's are considered unstable and basically not supported.
[03:05] <brucewhealton_> Hello all... was looking for some help with ubuntu server 13.04 and installing an app called owncloud
[03:06] <danny4way> Oh and it's not working again.
[03:06] <brucewhealton_> I did this using apt-get but it didn't create any databases
[03:06] <danny4way> It was working the first time  I tried sudo apt-get update
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, You keep making rookie mistakes. Never add a ppa unless you check that bthere are packages that support your release.
[03:06] <danny4way> NOw it shows the same thing as before.
[03:06] <ciao> ciao
[03:06] <brucewhealton_> I don't know if when you install with apt-get it uses sqlite or if the software doesn't use a db
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, That PPA never worked.
[03:07] <danny4way> Sorry. I dont know. Because I was a windows user
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> in 13.04
[03:07] <ciao> ciao!list
[03:07] <brucewhealton_> or maybe I have to install a db myself and somehow links that with the owncloud installation
[03:07] <brucewhealton_> any ideas?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, No biggie, you turned off that ppa before how did you do it?
[03:08] <mrdeb> hi. if u install chrome on ubuntu lts, does it include pdf viewer and pepper flash
[03:08] <mrdeb> ??
[03:08] <danny4way> LIke going to software setting then remove that package?
[03:08] <savagejen> alright, does anyone know how to disable mir once you've enabled it?
[03:08] <danny4way> I just did and it's still loading.
[03:08] <yahyaa> can someone please help me???
[03:08] <brucewhealton_> the page comes up ok and the recommended installation was with apt-get but I cannot figure out if the software needs a db or not?
[03:08] <danny4way> Yeah. It's working now.
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, flash yes a pdf reader not sure.
[03:08] <yahyaa> I am trying to burn an audio cd but k3b keeps crashing everytime I try to add the music I want, when I attempt to run a back trace this is what it says "Application: K3b (k3b), signal: Segmentation fault"
[03:09] <hal14450> forums still down eh? I was hoping for a more detailed explanation as to what happened. Does anyone happen to have any info or links?
[03:09] <mrdeb> ok wilee-nilee , so can i delete firefox and put chrome on
[03:09] <yahyaa> It was working fine about a week ago, but now it keeps crashing, please help!!!
[03:09] <danny4way> Thank you. So yeah. How do i check if the package is supported for my release?
[03:09] <casshern> hola
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, I would leave firefox one never knows, and install chrome if you want.
[03:09] <casshern> hello
[03:09] <RaveYoda> Does anyone know the group name for mounting devices such as usbs, cds, dvds, etc. My user can't mount stuff normally
[03:09] <joshu> is this the preferred way to make a directory read-only, "   mount --bind /foo /foo-share; mount -o remount,ro /foo-freerdp-share"
[03:09] <somsip> RaveYoda: plugdev ?
[03:09] <zeest> Hello. I know a partition dumped with dd can be mounted, but can it be resized?
[03:10] <RaveYoda> And how do I add a user to this?
[03:11] <casshern> can someone please, with what app, i can play games on linux besides wine and playonlinux? thanks
[03:11] <Dr_willis> zeest,  i belive it can.
[03:11] <zeest> Dr_willis: do you know how?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> casshern,  play native linux games..
[03:11] <RaveYoda> just type sudo usermod -a -G plugdev userName?
[03:11] <Az3rty> Hi, I have a little problem with movie and music. For the song, there are a little white every seconds and for the film, screen is black. I use VLC and my PC is a Eee PC 1101ha. I had try to install different codecs but I dosen't work... (I'm french)
[03:12] <Dr_willis> zeest,  resizefs, gparted, parted perhaps. Ive never really needed to do so.
[03:12] <somsip> RaveYoda: yes
[03:12] <guzzlefry> Does anyone know which package installs the calendar/time panel thing for Gnome-shell?
[03:12] <somsip> RaveYoda: they will need to logout/in to effect the change
[03:12] <RaveYoda> gotcha, thx somsip mate
[03:12] <casshern> @Dr_willis i want install some games i buy for when i have win 7
[03:13] <Dr_willis> casshern,  then you will most likely want to use wine or play-on-linux
[03:13] <somsip> RaveYoda: np
[03:13] <reisio> Az3rty: white noise?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> play-on-linux is a fancy thing for wine basically.
[03:13] <reisio> s/fancy//
[03:14] <Az3rty> @reisio : Yes
[03:14] <casshern> i read long time ago that exist other app for this purpose
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> playonlinux is a real dandy
[03:14] <Dr_willis> you really dont need to use @ on irc.. this isent twitter.
[03:14] <Dr_willis> casshern,  they are most likely other front ends to wine, or some wine variant
[03:15] <hal14450> Dr_willis, amen brother
[03:15] <casshern> ok, thanks everyone...
[03:15] <hal14450> casshern, there are also native games
[03:15] <Dr_willis> casshern,  check the wine app database to see if the games you want to run are supported at all.
[03:15] <casshern> thanks also i been check steam for games
[03:16] <Dr_willis> steam now has a native linux client and a great many games.
[03:16] <casshern> im new with linux
[03:16] <Dr_willis> !steam
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Of course tehres hundreds of free/open sourced games out with native linux versions
[03:17] <hal14450> one of my steam games doesn't work but i can't be bothered to figure out the reason
[03:17] <casshern> Dr_willis thank you
[03:18] <hal14450> so i take it nobody has any info on the forum hack?
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> hal14450, It is all on the splash, what is known that can be shared.
[03:19] <jesuse> little bit disappointed with ubuntu
[03:19] <jesuse> 12.04
[03:19] <jesuse> too many errors
[03:19] <casshern> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS how stable it is?
[03:19] <jesuse> anything that I install I get an error
[03:19] <hal14450> wilee-nilee, so no details at then...
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> hal14450, It is all on the splash, what is known that can be shared. lol
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> no I'm not a bot
[03:19] <hal14450> ...
[03:19] <Az3rty> Nobody ?
[03:20] <hal14450> i got the 'lol'
[03:20] <Mestre-Splinter> Hey guys, im having some problem with my wifi. Im on xubuntu 13.04. Im always disconnected when downloading something. Steam, torents and even downloading files trhogh the browser. My chip set is RLT8187. I tried to look on the foruns of ubuntu but it is offline
[03:20] <casshern> i'm using 12.04 since yesterday and install meany programs without error
[03:20] <Kitt3n> hal14450, which of your steam games aren't working? One of Valve's
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> hal14450, Not really a matter of discussion here is all.
[03:20] <chatterbot> Hi, any info about this bug? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1165433
[03:20] <chatterbot> Any way I can really work around this?
[03:20] <hal14450> Kitt3n, i got it from steam but it's not a valve title
[03:20] <Az3rty> ,Mestre-Splinter : Have you a other PC connect by wifi in your box ?
[03:21] <Kitt3n> hal14450, Ah, okay.
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> jesuse, Why are you using it if disappointed, and what makes you think we care what you use.
[03:21] <trism> guzzlefry: isn't it just a bunch of js files in gnome-shell-common? dateMenu.js calendar.js, etc
[03:21] <Mestre-Splinter> Az3rty, yeah, my girlfriend laptop works fine
[03:21] <hal14450> Kitt3n, i can't recall the name and it's on a different box than my current one
[03:22] <guzzlefry> trism: Haven't a clue.
[03:22] <casshern> if you install gnome3 on unity, delete Unity? or i can return if i want?
[03:22] <HypnotiX> Will  there be a problem if i installed ubuntu without a swap partition ?
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> casshern, unity run ontop of gnome 3
[03:22] <hal14450> HypnotiX, if you run out of ram yes
[03:23] <HypnotiX> should i create one now ?
[03:23] <hal14450> you could
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> casshern, Do you mean the gnome 3 desktop known as the gnome-shell here or the fallback
[03:23] <Az3rty> Mestre-Splinter : It's very strange, I had this problem but for all PC and I have changing my box. But in your case...
[03:23] <HypnotiX> i didnt create one when i installed because it kept giving me errors because of it :)
[03:24] <hal14450> HypnotiX, what errors?
[03:24] <HypnotiX> couldent mount swap at scsi 0,0,0
[03:25] <casshern> wille-nilee i mean the desktop you install with this command
[03:25] <casshern> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, You encrypted?
[03:25] <HypnotiX> no
[03:25] <hal14450> you could use a swap file
[03:25] <HypnotiX> i just tried to install linux next to windows :)
[03:25] <Mestre-Splinter> Az3rty, in my case im screwd? hahha
[03:25] <nownot> question on avconv of ffmpeg, how would I convert flac to alac (mp4) ? I keep getting errors like "utomatic encoder selection failed for output stream #0:0. Default encoder for format ipod is probably disabled. Please choose an encoder manually."
[03:25] <hal14450> i use a partition myself but i have a friend that uses a file
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> casshern, I see, I would not mess with removing unity it is very small just a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3.
[03:26] <HypnotiX> !swap
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Did you install from windows a wubi?
[03:26] <casshern> wilee-nilee ok
[03:26] <HypnotiX> yes
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Ah that was the most important bit of info here, no swap is made, you have a file in windows no partition.
[03:27] <casshern> wilee-nilee i just wanna try that desktop anyway! XD
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> casshern, Cool I use the shell I like it.
[03:28] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: so what does that mean for me :)
[03:28] <rAad> I tried recompiling vim but its not using the right binary: http://pastie.org/8185344
[03:28] <hal14450> HypnotiX, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, A problematic install not supported anymore basically with only one user I have seen with any expertise, other than that it is ubuntu.
[03:29] <hal14450> yuck wubi
[03:29] <RaveYoda> OK, I added my user to both plugdev and disk droups yet my system refuses to mount the drive automatically.
[03:29] <HypnotiX> well i installed linux on its own partition
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, Not from windows other than a file in a ntfs.
[03:30] <HypnotiX> i created an ext4 and installed it on that
[03:30] <hal14450> wubi is a pretend install
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, NOt from windows.
[03:30] <HypnotiX> yeah
[03:30] <RaveYoda> This is a fresh install of Ubu 12:04 where I added only the pkgs I wanted after the base system was installed.
[03:30] <HypnotiX> i think i didnt understand your previous question :)
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Well if you did you might take up miracles because you just performed one.
[03:31] <eaxxae> is there an easy way to replace openjdk with oracle jdk
[03:31] <HypnotiX> i did boot linux and installed it from an usb stick
[03:31] <hal14450> RaveYoda, lsusb sees the device?
[03:31] <RaveYoda> My file manager is SpaceFM
[03:31] <hal14450> what does dmesg have to say?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Ah now a usb stick install I see. ;)
[03:32] <RaveYoda> hal14450, It does
[03:32] <zeest> Dr_willis: none of those seem to recognize the partition
[03:33] <RaveYoda> I can of course mont it through sudo mount /dev/sdb1 but that's uber tedious and certain programs don't like this COUGH Multisystem
[03:34] <flick> hi... i decided that i don't need so much swap space. how can i resize the swap to make it less, and put that space into the root partition?
[03:34] <hal14450> user@laptop:~$ groups
 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare jupiter
[03:34] <casshern> swap partition must be the twice of your ram
[03:34] <hal14450> RaveYoda, if that helps i run 12.04 here
[03:34] <HypnotiX> haha stats for nerds :)
[03:35] <HypnotiX> awesome
[03:35] <hal14450> casshern, that's a waste really
[03:35] <overdub> modern computers have enough RAM to never need swap space
[03:35] <flick> i have 750MB ram and 1GB swap
[03:35] <Kitt3n> casshern, that's not true.
[03:35] <flick> but the swap is completely unused !
[03:35] <overdub> i disable mine with sudo swapoff -a
[03:35] <flick> i checked with the command - free
[03:36] <RaveYoda> hal14450, I have all of those but Jupitor
[03:36] <hal14450> RaveYoda, yeah that's a laptop specific app for controlling junk i should have ditched ages ago
[03:36] <hal14450> nothing to do with mounts
[03:36] <casshern> its not like windows? LOL
[03:37] <hal14450> casshern, not even remotely like it
[03:37] <RaveYoda> hal14450, Oh...well...I've got all of them plus the Disk group
[03:37] <flick> what are some memory intensive things to do? i want to push the ram as much as possible, to see if it still uses swap. i have Firefox, IPython Notebook, Gimp all open together at the same time now
[03:37] <RaveYoda> hal14450, excluding Jupiter
[03:38] <reisio> flick: compile pypy :p
[03:38] <hal14450> RaveYoda, what DE are you suing?
[03:38] <hal14450> using even
[03:38] <RaveYoda> hal14450, Sorry, DE?
[03:38] <flick> cool... while compiling, how do i check the peak memory usage?
[03:38] <hal14450> Desktop Environment
[03:38] <DimBulb> minecraft is very memory intensive
[03:38] <overdub> flick, open a few hundred graphics files with GIMP
[03:38] <DimBulb> flick: use minecraft to max out
[03:38] <overdub> that'll do it
[03:39] <flick> ok i will get minecraft
[03:39] <hal14450> mem[Physical: 3.8GB, 73.5% free - Swap: 3.7GB, 99.2% free]
[03:39] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  As in the disk/usb drive? It's a WD drive
[03:40] <hal14450> no i mean Unity/KDE/?
[03:40] <flick> there is no minecraft, but something called minetest in synaptic. it says it is inspired by minecraft. will that do?
[03:40] <RaveYoda> hal14450, OHHHH Openbox
[03:40] <DimBulb> I'm not sure
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> nice nick, lol
[03:40] <DimBulb> I'm not fimiliar with minetest
[03:40] <Kitt3n> flick, Minetest is in no way as intensive as Minecraft
[03:41] <Dr_willis> run minetest  200 times! ;)
[03:41] <hal14450> RaveYoda, haha yeah so i'd guess running that minimal environment means you'll have to script automount
[03:41] <DimBulb> minecraft.net
[03:41] <DimBulb> to get minecraft
[03:41] <Dr_willis> !info autofs
[03:42] <RaveYoda> hal14450, But my current desktop is automounting fine?
[03:42] <RaveYoda> hal14450, It's my laptop that isn't
[03:42] <hal14450> RaveYoda, fucked if i know man
[03:42] <DimBulb> flick: is this you're primary machine that has 768mb of ram?
[03:42] <hal14450> i pretty much mount everything that matters manually anyway
[03:43] <Dr_willis> theres several desktop services that auto mount things.    what desktop/wm are you using RaveYoda ?
[03:43] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  T.T Damn....That sucks, thx though
[03:43] <flick> sometimes i install something which installs dependencies. when i uninstall it, the dependencies remain - how do i remove these packages which are no longer needed?
[03:43] <hal14450> sshfs is my favorite thing
[03:43] <flick> DimBulb, nope - the primary machine has more ram
[03:43] <Dr_willis> flick,  try  'sudo apt-get auto-remove'  perhaps?
[03:43] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, I'm using Openbox with the RazorQT Panel
[03:43] <Kitt3n> flick, "sudo apt-get autoremove" will clean the system of unneeded packages
[03:44] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  then you dont have the auto mounting services from gnome running, (or whatever qt/kde equilivent they are) would be my guess
[03:44] <marcm> I am setting up a server for KVM virtualization (with LVMs) and I got 6 x 2TB drives and an LSI 9260 8i RAID controller. I get more space with RAID 50, however I am wondering what the performance penalty is vs. RAID 10? Can anyone help me with this please? Thank you.
[03:44] <flick> oh cool thanks!
[03:44] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  theres some auto-mounter assistant tools int he repos i recall. that basically show a button to mount/unmount things if you dont want to install a larger automounting system.
[03:45] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  My File manager is SpaceFM. I've done a base install with Ubu 12:04 and added all pkges I wanted
[03:45] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  so you need to decide how badly you want things to auto mount - and install the needed tools or not..
[03:45] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  The RazorQT Panel has such a button
[03:45] <Kitt3n> ^
[03:46] <hal14450> RaveYoda, my fm is mc lol
[03:46] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  It's the permission system that's messing me up
[03:46] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  depends on the fs you are mounting, as to what you need to do, to get what permissions/ownership.
[03:46] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  MC? MuCommander?
[03:47] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[03:47] <Dr_willis> i like rox-filer also. ;) as an alternative file manager
[03:47] <hal14450> ^^^ what ubottu said
[03:47] <hal14450> rsync is fun too
[03:48] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, Ohhh, duuhhh me. XD MuCommander is much like it but based with Java scripts and QT themes
[03:48] <eaxxae> mc is a classic, used it for about a decade, prob longer
[03:48] <Dr_willis> mc has so many features and extras, ive used it for years.. and havent touched on 10% of them
[03:48] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  You should check out SpaceFM.
[03:48] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  =P
[03:48] <Dr_willis> dual pane file managers. ;) gotta love the classics
[03:49] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, the fs is NTFS on the external drive btw
[03:49] <hal14450> eaxxae, glad to see i'm in good company =D RaveYoda I'll always be a cli junkie
[03:49] <eaxxae> runs in an ssh session too, GUI file managers are bloated.. ;)
[03:49] <reisio> slow way to get around, indeed
[03:50] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  then you will want to look into the ntfs-3g options for getting it mounted how you want. there was a ntfs-config tool on normal ubuntu that could auto-make a ntfs-3g entry in /etc/fstab for them. but that may pull in more then what you want
[03:50] <hal14450> eaxxae, screen has at least two instances running all the time
[03:50] <reisio> /usr/lib64/misc/xscreensaver/apple2 -text -fast -program bash :)
[03:50] <RaveYoda> hal14450, Errr welll. SpFM isn't persay cli.... But it's still veerrryyy light compared to Nautilus in my humble opinion
[03:50] <reisio> that's my new fm
[03:50] <hal14450> gnu-screen that is
[03:50] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  also rember if the ntfs, or vfat fs were 'unmounted uncleanly' from windows, linux may refuse to mount them
[03:51] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  I have ntfs-3g installed already? So just get the automounter script for it?
[03:51] <hal14450> RaveYoda, i'm very set in my ways i have the same time invested as eaxxae in using a cli manager for files
[03:51] <HypnotiX> can someone tell me how to access the settings on pidgin, sry if its a dumb question :)
[03:52] <Dr_willis> I dont know what you have installed RaveYoda  :) (you are asking me?)    you can make a generic fstab entry for the various ntfs drives if you wanted and just mount them as needed.
[03:52] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  I'm working my way to cli. I just like the point and click for running files too much
[03:53] <hal14450> RaveYoda, use what suits you don't try to conform to a cli fm if that's not what you like
[03:53] <hal14450> i'm content using what i've used for ages because i know it and like it
[03:54] <Dr_willis> mc has so many features and is so  handy to use over ssh.. its a must learn about tool. ;)
[03:54] <hal14450> it is exceptionally handy Dr_willis
[03:54] <hal14450> but slower than rsync
[03:54] <Dr_willis> i also find mcedit easier to use then most of the 'suggested' beginner text editors
[03:55] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  Totally bro, but one day it'll all be cli. I LOOOVVEEE LITE RESOURCE Systems. Hence my ubu base system with a completly diffrent software selection
[03:55] <hal14450> sshfs speeds it up because it doesn't use fish then
[03:55] <hal14450> RaveYoda, familiar with screen or tmux yet?
[03:55] <hal14450> those are must have apps for the cli
[03:56] <hal14450> pick one
[03:56] <hal14450> they don't mix well
[03:56] <Dr_willis> !info byobu
[03:56] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, I can't get the launch scripts for programs right is all really. Once I knew how to get MC to launch programs i'd use it in a heart beat
[03:56] <casshern> .
[03:56] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  i dont really see the point in using mc to launch programs..
[03:56] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  Not heard of 'em? I'll look up
[03:57] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  you just find the executable  and hit enter on it in mc.. and it launches it..
[03:57] <hal14450> RaveYoda, Dr_willis mentioned one too
[03:57] <Dr_willis> mc is a FILE MANAGER, not an app-launcher. but it can for example launch your video player when you select a  video file.
[03:57] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, I can't ever find the exacutables
[03:57] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  this is why you just use the shell and type their names :) no need to find them
[03:58] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  and mc lets you do that  from within mc.
[03:58] <Dr_willis> since mc has a shell built in at the bottom
[03:59] <Pinkamena_D> I am curious why opening a large text file with gedit takes so long. just now I tried to open an 80mb text file and its still not unfrozen (been about 2.5 minutes), yet when I try ot load something like chrome which uses like 10 times that amount of ram, it takes maybe 30 seconds max to load up.
[04:00] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, and hall Well, for instance, i type vlc fileName and it never runs through the fm.
[04:00] <hal14450> Pinkamena_D, because it's a gui app but honestly it shouldn't really take that long
[04:00] <hal14450> try viewing in a pager like less
[04:01] <Pinkamena_D> ok, but I hope it doe snot force me to lose work that was open in other tabs
[04:01] <hal14450> q to quit less
[04:02] <Pinkamena_D> still slowely alternating between that "darkened" start and "light" (but still not responding
[04:02] <hal14450> /<search term
[04:02] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  I'm liking tmux. Seems handy
[04:02] <hal14450> you went with the one i don't use lol
[04:02] <hal14450> i prefer screen
[04:03] <hal14450> Pinkamena_D, is it a network attached file or a local one?
[04:03] <Pinkamena_D> local
[04:03] <hal14450> hmm
[04:03] <Pinkamena_D> its just a dump from an old access 2 database
[04:04] <casshern> do you guys remember the movie die hard 4? what kind of chat is using the hacker "justin long" and OS
[04:04] <hal14450> do you need to edit it or just read it?
[04:04] <bret> Is there a website tracking the Ubuntu edge income rates and progress?  Something to get a better idea of if its going to make it
[04:04] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  and Dr_willis  Does the file manager potentialy need permission to mount devices? Or is this handled through the groups?
[04:04] <Pinkamena_D> I was trying to get the schema,
[04:04] <reisio> hal14450: screenshot?
[04:04] <reisio> erm
[04:04] <reisio> casshern: screenshot?
[04:04] <casshern> wait...
[04:05] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  it can be handled by groups, or fstab options
[04:05] <kunji> How do I troubleshoot a consistently failing boot of Ubuntu?
[04:06] <hal14450> kunji, fails as in how?
[04:06] <eaxxae> kunji: boot in single user mode
[04:07] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, ok, wait, what if fstab and or mtab don't see the device?
[04:07] <hal14450> kunji, so no kernel gets loaded?
[04:07] <casshern> reisio here the screenshot http://nmap.org/movies/diehard4/nmap-diehard4-1080p-1920x801.png
[04:08] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, Because if i just type mount /dev/sdb2 it says can't find /dev/sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:08] <kunji> hal14450: A complete freeze during the Plymouth? screen, that purple loading screen.  It does this unless the machine was powered off with the power button (as opposed to an OS shutting down the system).  On the next boot it wants to do a bug report involving Xorg, but I'm not sure how to see what it wanted to report exactly.
[04:08] <hal14450> ctrl+alt+F1 do anything?
[04:09] <kunji> hal14450: nope
[04:09] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, And sense i'm in the correct groups mount /dev/sdb2 should work
[04:09] <reisio> casshern: that is a contrived UI
[04:10] <hal14450> kunji, it's been a while but i'd try booting to a usb and then changing it to boot to txt then check the xorg logs
[04:10] <reisio> casshern: it might even be all post processed
[04:10] <hal14450> can't recall how to do that offhand
[04:10] <reisio> casshern: I'll check my copy and tell you
[04:10] <casshern> ok thanks
[04:11] <hal14450> haven't used it so i 'losed' it
[04:11] <casshern> and its not necessary
[04:12] <reisio> casshern: oh yes it is!
[04:12] <reisio> but if you want an "irc" client like that, just use pidgin
[04:12] <kunji> hal14450: I can get it to boot and I can check the logs, when I say consistent I mean it always does it after being shut down properly, I can just power it off via the power button and boot and it will boot up fine.  I didn't notice anything weird in the xorg logs previously, is there something they use to indicate errors as opposed to normal logs that I can grep for, ERR or something?
[04:12] <hal14450> reisio, that actually looks a bit like fluxbox and conky
[04:12] <casshern> reisio XD
[04:13] <reisio> yeah it's a window manager, with decorations
[04:13] <reisio> and the "chat" part is just lines of text, with an avatar
[04:13] <casshern> reisio i have installed
[04:13] <kunji> hal14450: I have actually found some errors regarding AHCI though, not sure if they're superfluous or not.
[04:13] <reisio> 'cause why have a realistic nmap output on one side AND a realistic something else on the other side?
[04:13] <reisio> realistic + nonsense, YAY
[04:14] <casshern> Hollywood...
[04:14] <Shadowandlight> how do i make sure apache is working on my server?
[04:14] <hal14450> kunji, grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg0.log <--- something like that for the path
[04:14] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  you can use the user/users option in  fstab and  then a user can mount/unmount sdb2
[04:14] <Shadowandlight> apache status is good, its running, but not showing
[04:15] <hal14450> kunji, use tab for completion on the path
[04:15] <hal14450> Shadowandlight, lsof -i|grep apache
[04:16] <kunji> hal14450: That's the right path, here is all it gets that looks even remotely useful for this:  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[04:16] <hal14450> kunji, so no errors on the xorg log
[04:16] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  OK, Uhhhhhh... how may I go about this?
[04:17] <go8765> hello. i cant run skype and get memory overload. can anybody help me with this?
[04:17] <kunji> hal14450: Well, looks like there's more in the Xorg.1.log
[04:17] <Dr_willis> !fstab | RaveYoda
[04:17] <hal14450> kunji, there will be more but it might not have any errors
[04:17] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  the ntfs-3g homepage gives numerous example fstab entries for ntfs  filesystems
[04:17] <kunji> hal14450: [    74.218] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): Output LVDS enabled but has no modes
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): Display Infrastructure Failed
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): PreInit failed
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.403] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.403] (EE)
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.403] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" for additional information.
[04:17] <FloodBot1> kunji: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <kunji> T.T whoops, didn't realize there were returns in that
[04:17] <hal14450> whoops
[04:18] <hal14450> !pastebin
[04:18] <hal14450> ...
[04:18] <kunji> Yeah, didn't realize it was going to be that long, looked short in terminal
[04:18] <RaveYoda> Alright, thx Dr_willis
[04:18] <hal14450> it always does ;)
[04:19] <hal14450> so kunji this sort of sounds like a not waking up from screensaver issue more than anything else
[04:20] <hal14450> hibernate much?
[04:20] <amyassin> anyone has more info of what happened to ubuntu forums?
[04:20] <kunji> hal14450: Actually isn't the number in that log file the display though?  In which case the Xorg.1.log file is probably ancient and irrelevant here.
[04:20] <kunji> hal14450: nah, no hibernating, no screensaver, not even turning the screen off
[04:21] <Dr_willis> amyassin,  it was space aliens! :) actually im sure there will be some big blog postings on it when its all said and done..  and they are sure they got it fixed
[04:21] <hal14450> amyassin, sadly that's the reason i joined tonight and nobody has said anything other than what's on the placeholder is all we have
[04:21] <hal14450> amyassin, that's public...
[04:22] <Dr_willis> hopefully all these other places that use the same forum software will lock things down
[04:22] <hal14450> kunji, the logs say otherwise
[04:22] <hal14450> from you posted
[04:22] <kunji> hal14450: Right, that's what I'm saying though, that's probably from when I first installed Ubuntu, so a few months old
[04:23] <amyassin> Dr_willis hope they get there soon...
[04:23] <hal14450> kunji, no on each boot the previous log is renamed to 1,2,3 etc
[04:23] <amyassin> hal14450, seems nothing yet public.. kinda sad
[04:24] <hal14450> amyassin, it is
[04:24] <hal14450> i already have enough security concerns but at least that isn't tied to cc info
[04:24] <amyassin> I use google cache these days to get the info
[04:24] <kunji> hal14450: Is that Ubuntu specific?  You think it's hibernating instead of shutting down then?  Because the documentation says this: -logfile filename  Use the file called filename as the Xorg server log file.  The default log file is /var/log/Xorg.n.log on most platforms, where n is the display number of the Xorg server.  The default may be in a different directory on some platforms. This option is only available when the server is run as r
[04:25] <hal14450> kunji, check the date
[04:25] <hal14450> amyassin, that can be handy i guess but i prefer ddg
[04:26] <amyassin> hal14450: what's ddg??
[04:26] <kunji> hal14450: with ls -la I get May 15 04:26 on the Xorg.1.log file
[04:26] <hal14450> <---paranoid duckduckgo.com
[04:27] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, and hal14450  THANK YOU TO THE BOTH OF YOU!!! I fixed it with fstab editing. =] OPGHJHJGHJJHGHF STUPIDLY HAPPY ATM
[04:27] <hal14450> so i guess it's not relevant then kunji and you're welcome RaveYoda but i think Dr_willis is the one to thank for that
[04:29] <hal14450> amyassin, i'm literally playing without a full deck if you check my host
[04:29] <DanC> anybody else seeing really slow apt-gets from us.archive.ubuntu.com? I'm getting 139 kB/s
[04:30] <RaveYoda> Halyard, Well...yes to a degree, but you told me how to get the user into plugdev
[04:30] <hal14450> [00:29:56] * [hal14450] is connecting from *@definitely.playingwithoutafulldeck.com
[04:30] <kunji> hal14450: I misremembered earlier, the errors I found before are not AHCI, they are ACPI.  In dmesg I found this: http://pastebin.com/mcbB5can
[04:30] <hal14450> lol
[04:30] <RaveYoda> hal14450, which is quite important too as user needs to be in the group to not have to do sudo mount
[04:31] <Shadowandlight> im running a custom created app on my web server .... i had it running, restarted the server... turned back on the app and now i get no images loadin on the test website ... heres what keeps coming up in the command line - https://privatepaste.com/52124228ef
[04:31] <casshern> ubuntu 12.04 LTS until when its gonna have support?
[04:32] <hal14450> casshern, it has support
[04:32] <john__> hi i have .vmdk file how to install that file in kvm on ubuntu
[04:32] <casshern> i mean until what year?
[04:33] <hal14450> iirc 3 years is the standard for LTS
[04:33] <casshern> thanks
[04:33] <hal14450> until a new one
[04:33] <hal14450> 5 yrs for support iirc
[04:33] <Dr_willis> john__,  perhaps this -> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_To_Migrate_From_Vmware_To_KVM
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> Shadowandlight, not sure how your custom app relates here, if you think it is the server and it is ubuntu you might try #ubuntu-server
[04:34] <agus> hello
[04:34] <agus> ping!!!
[04:35] <casshern> WHAT?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Ping? we barely even met...
[04:35] <smgordon> LOL
[04:35] <agus> where word is that
[04:35] <kunji> hal14450: Also ACPI errors in kern.log
[04:37] <kunji> hal14450: Hmm, there is a cups fail in boot.log, almost looks like it's trying to load cups twice
[04:37] <agus> please help me
[04:38] <smgordon> well agus  speak
iam alreadt tried this link but it is not working
[04:38] <hal14450> kunji, not sure whats up but hunting for errors in logs will generally glean more false positives than you have time for
[04:39] <agus> tolong aku laper nih
[04:39] <Dr_willis> john__,  means nothing to me. i dont use either one.. that url says it should have native support.. perhaps ask in the kvm channels.
[04:39] <hal14450> agus, we can't help you unless you speak english here
[04:39] <kunji> hal14450: Yeah, I sure don't have time to hunt down what they all mean, was hoping you might know if they're worth dismissing  or are common offenders :P
[04:40] <agus> how to updete ubuntu 10.04 to 13.04
[04:40] <hal14450> like most folks i use a search engine for answers i don't already have or have forgotten the solution to
[04:41] <kunji> hal14450: It's just a really weird one to me, like something in the shutdown process causes the fail on next boot... but it's a dual boot machine, and windows will boot every time regardless. Also it doesn't seem to matter whether it was shut down from windows or from Ubuntu, the next boot Ubuntu errors unless the machine was shutdown via the holding the power button.  I'm really suspecting firmware at this point.
[04:42] <hal14450> agus, probably too late for that since it's not an LTS so support is gone
[04:42] <kunji> hal14450: Yeah, no luck with google yet, :P  I'll keep at it and let you know if I fine anything.
[04:42] <kunji> *find
[04:43] <hal14450> kunji, sotty i can't be more helpful :(
[04:44] <hal14450> damn typos
[04:44] <Dr_willis> sooty :)
[04:44] <hal14450> getting late here
[04:44] <hal14450> lol
[04:44] <hal14450> Dr_willis, was i wrong though?
[04:45] <hal14450> 10.04 isn't exactly what most folks run if they're long term
[04:46] <smgordon> maybe thats why he wants to update to 13.04
[04:46] <hal14450> am i wrong though because i ran 8.04 on my dtop for ages
[04:47] <agus> modussssssssssssssss
[04:47] <hal14450> i mean literally until last year when i finally updated to 12.04
[04:47] <agus> has join
[04:48] <kunji> Well, I'm gonna try just removing xorg.conf and rebooting, since that error report about xorg happens, maybe I'll get lucky, gotta reboot for that now, be back in a bit.
[04:48] <John__> I have a fun situation. I have Ubuntu installed and I'm looking at installing Windows 7 alongside it. Should I reformat my HD and start from scratch, find a way to install Windows after Ubuntu, or can I "Export" my Ubuntu setup, install Windows, then reinstall it with my current setup?
[04:49] <agus> any can speaking indonesian , hellooo..............
[04:49] <smgordon> no  sorry agus
[04:49] <smgordon> use google translate
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> John__, You want windows at the front of the disc for easy repair access
[04:50] <agus> wadoh aku terpencil kie
[04:51] <hal14450> John__, there used to be a way to add it to ntldr by copying the first 512 bytes but iirc win7 doesn't use that method like previous windows versions did
[04:52] <hal14450> so basically it would be a pain to install afterwards and then access your any other os because windows only cares about itself
[04:53]  * wilee-nilee did not know windows was sentient.
[04:53] <hal14450> agus, you can try apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:54] <John__> Grah
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> John__, You can clone ubuntu and load it back if you need to.
[04:54] <John__> Oh really?
[04:54] <John__> Somebody mentioned that
[04:55] <hal14450> windows won't even knwo it's there you just need to repair the boot loader
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> John__, I use clonezilla, the only catch is if the partition # is different your loading you will change that info in the saved packages, and it loads to a equal or larger partition of the original.
[04:55] <casshern> agus ???
[04:55] <hal14450> it can't recognize any filesystems other than MS filesystems
[04:56] <John__> Grah I think I'll just backup my code from ubuntu and start anew. I'm very new to partitioning and I'm almost positive I'll end up breaking it somehow.
[04:56] <hal14450> using separate drives is best if it's a dtop
[04:57] <hal14450> linux on the ssd and windows on the old spinner
[04:58] <John__> I don't have an SSD or multiple drives haha
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> John__, Also note when you are getting opinions not substance on the irc,
[04:58] <dirtydaw1> morning all
[04:58] <cmck193> need some help.  installed windows 7 in virtualbox on ubuntu host.  I'm having issues with usb passthrough.
[04:58] <John__> I know, thank you
[04:58] <John__> I'll just fold and start from scratch haha
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, You add the usb in settings?
[04:58] <hal14450> ymmv with my opinions because i admit 10.04 is actually an LTS i skipped lol
[04:59] <cmck193> wille-nille: how do I add the usb?
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Go to setting in vbox and add them.
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> there is a usb tab
[05:00] <cmck193> wille-nille: it tells me no usb devices available
[05:00] <hal14450> cmck193, sometimes you need to enable it in the bios if it won't work otherwise
[05:00] <cmck193> hal14450: enable what in the bios?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Any plugged in, and if so are they mounted with fstab?
[05:00] <hal14450> usb passthrough for vm
[05:00] <cmck193> hal14450: they are mounted
[05:01] <cmck193> wille-nille: they are mounted
[05:01] <cmck193> hal14450: that's an option?
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, With fstab
[05:01] <kunji> I think I sort of know what's up now.  I actually think it was the proprietary driver failing to switch between graphics cards.  The laptop this is on has an A10 and a 7970m, and there is an indicator light for which one is in use.  This fails to change in the cases where the boot fails.  Removing Xorg.conf didn't help, but I switched to the open source drivers just now and it's been solid for 5 reboots.
[05:01] <cmck193> wille-nille: yup.  do they not need to be mounted?
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, I suspect that is why vbox does not see them.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, fstab mounts differently then a just plugging in or having it plugged in when you boot.
[05:03] <cmck193> wille-nille: so, they need to be unmounted from the host?
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, No, probably just not mounted by fstab, they have to be seen by the computer.
[05:03] <kunji> There are unfortunately two downsides to using the open drivers on this machine, one is that the Steam games run better with the proprietary drivers (at least last I heard), and 2nd that my battery life will be shorter, since I don't think I know how to convince the open source drivers to switch to using the A10 instead of the 7870m
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> I never use fstab to mount externals or more than my one HD, so I'm not quite sure the voodoo that it does
[05:05] <cmck193> wille-nille: maybe i'm not checking it correctly.  tell me how to double check fstab
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:06] <cmck193> wille-nille: ok, i'm wrong.  just my swap and ext4 shows
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, So is the usb showing as mounted?
[05:07] <casshern> ubuntu 12.04 wifi doesn't work properly, it disconnects me every 5 or 10 minutes. and after a while doesn't even connect me. can help me?
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Do you have the guest additions installed, and are you in the vbox group?
[05:07] <cmck193> not in fstab,  but i can see the files on it
[05:07] <cmck193> yes and just added.
[05:08] <casshern> already install the driver of my wifi with ndiswrapper
[05:08] <casshern> and nothing!
[05:08] <babinlonston> I want to monitor the Whole Posgresql  in nagios how can i do it
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, So you see the usb icon in the left sidepanel of home?
[05:09] <kunji> wilee-nilee: fstab does voodoo?  I thought it just mounted the listed stuff on boot with the given options, so at least I thought it was pretty straightforward.  There's something else in Ubuntu that handles auto-mounting removable stuff and things like that, don't remember what it is though
[05:09] <HypnotiX> can i just say that i enjoy this ubuntu :)
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> no
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> lol
[05:09] <HypnotiX> :(
[05:09] <cmck193> wille-nille: yup.  do i need to unmount it?  i added myself to the vbox group.  do i need to restart?
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Maynbe a logout would probably do it if that is the problem.
[05:10] <casshern> i need help with my wifi, please!
[05:10] <HypnotiX> wish i didnt need to keep my windows installation for the damn photoshop
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> !details | casshern to the channel
[05:10] <cmck193> wille-nille: ok.  brb going to logout and try again
[05:10] <casshern> ubuntu 12.04 wifi doesn't work properly, it disconnects me every 5 or 10 minutes. and after a while doesn't even connect me. can help me?
[05:10] <dirtydaw1> who
[05:10] <dirtydaw1> wc
[05:10] <casshern> wifi card rtl8187
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> ! rtl8187
[05:11] <kunji> HypnotiX: I hear it will work with magic combinations of the right WINE with the right photoshop, you could try it if you want.
[05:12] <HypnotiX> if i have the 32bit ubuntu will the system use 8gb or is it limited to 4 ?
[05:12] <kunji> Should use 8
[05:12] <HypnotiX> ty
[05:13] <HypnotiX> !nvidia
[05:14] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: ok, fixing to try it out
[05:14] <casshern_> .
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, I believe so now with the pae kernels. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[05:15] <Vbitz> Can Ubuntu 13.04 be installed on the Samsung ATIV Smart PC 500T, it's a 32bit processor and it uses uefi, should I try now or wait for 13.10?
[05:15] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: nice. it's working.  is there a way i can set everything connected to a certain port to automatically be connected to the vm?
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, not sure on the port, do you mean like a multi usb usb plugin?
[05:17] <casshern_> :(
[05:17] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: i connect to fire alarm panels via usb.  have 3 ports on my laptop.  don't know how it would work.  wanted to setup a certain port to go directly to the vm if running
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Vbitz might say here
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Not sure you might ask in #vbox if no one knows here
[05:18] <Vbitz> wilee-nilee it's 32bit
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> Vbitz, Right and if I had a definitive answer I would state it. ;)
[05:19] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: i see i can setup a filter with a port.  how would i find what port is what?
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, No idea, I have limited knowledge really
[05:19] <HypnotiX> !drivers
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> not just here lol
[05:19] <casshern_> should i try with ndiswrapper the driver of my wifi, for windows XP or Win7
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, I think lsusb will name them though, not sure really.
[05:21] <HypnotiX> how do i updated my nvidia driver from the terminal
[05:21] <HypnotiX> sudo apt something nvidia-current ?
[05:24] <vinodpaul> hai
[05:24] <vinodpaul> what thehell
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> !language | vinodpaul
[05:25] <HypnotiX> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html is this guide any good? :)
[05:25] <vinodpaul> sorry
[05:26] <vinodpaul> ubuntu phone
[05:26] <Vbitz> after doing some more research it does not look like ubuntu(or any other linux) is compatible with any clover trail devices right now
[05:26] <vinodpaul> pls redirect me to ubuntu phone
[05:29] <kunji> vinodpaul: You mean where to donate?  Or the irc chat or what?
[05:29] <somsip> !phone | vinodpaul
[05:30]  * Dr_willis waits for a actual device to be produced befor he gets excited about a ubuntu phone. ;)
[05:31] <fictionalhippo> wilee-nilee, are you on?
[05:32] <kunji> Dr_willis: need to put in some monies to get the device though, sort of a chicken and egg problem.  Though phone providers will be rolling out their own devices with it even if the crowdfunded hardware fails.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> kunji,  that even seems weird.. if its to be a big 'ubuntu flagship' product - makes me wonder why  its not allready got funding from err.. canocal and so forth. but what do i know.. Im just a lowly consumer.
[05:33] <mJayk> Its not the ubuntu phone
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Im still waiting for the PiCade case to be avail for me to buy. ;)
[05:33] <mJayk> they have ubuntu flagship phones
[05:33] <mJayk> this is a trial device not a phone
[05:33] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: figured it out.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> ill still belive it when i actually see the things produced.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> I have a whole closet of failed hardware 'gizmos' from over the years. :P
[05:33] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: run "VBoxManage list usbhost" in terminal and see what port you device is on, then create a usb filter with just that port number.  Love it
[05:34] <clue_h> last time i looked they raised 6 million, not sure what it is now
[05:34] <mJayk> 7 last night
[05:34] <fictionalhippo> Ok, so if anyone is on i just need a quick answer. I've installed ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-common and ndisgtk but now i can't seem to get to the System<Administration to get to the Windows Wireless Devices so i can get my usb wireless adapter to work. Any ideas?
[05:34] <somsip> clue_h: same. The average per day is not looking good to hit target, unless Shuttlworth dibs in for the missing amount
[05:34] <kunji> Dr_willis: Well, http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge there you go.  I know Ubuntu isn't broke, but I'm not sure they've got 32 million lying around either.  So the other Ubuntu phones that will come out are partnerships with phone manufacturers.
[05:34] <cmck193> just one more question:  how do i auto mount my local windows partition?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> cmck193,  make a fstab entry for it usign the ntfs-3g filesystem
[05:35] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | cmck193
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g | cmck193
[05:35] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: lsusb in terminal
[05:35] <kunji> And if they don't hit the 32 mil you get your money back, so meh, seems ok
[05:36] <clue_h> that would be unfortunate, i like the look of this edge
[05:36] <clue_h> specs more so
[05:36] <mJayk> the concept is amazing
[05:37] <clue_h> if it can connect to a monitor i can connect it to a mini projector ha
[05:37] <kunji> I actually wasn't too impressed with the specs, also I'm not really clear on what I/O is available, it does need to function more or less as a desktop so... are they going with a special dock to expand I/O or something?
[05:38] <mJayk> clue_h: or even a big projector! ha
[05:38] <cmck193> thanks all.
[05:38] <cmck193> night
[05:38] <mJayk> kunji: the specs are not released yet ?
[05:38] <clue_h> true indeed
[05:38] <mJayk> :)
[05:38] <kunji> mJayk: Some are, but not all
[05:38] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, yeah i've done that and it shows that it is there it just wont connect. I Don't think the drivers were able to make it through so i downloaded those apps to try and move over the drivers from the installation disk that came with my wireless USB adapter
[05:38] <Dr_willis> intel has had that wireless->to a monitor  stuff for some time. and saw google has some chrome-cast dongle comming out..   but still its hard for that stuff to catch on it seems.
[05:39] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: try ip link show
[05:39] <Dr_willis> a Phone or pc or chromebook  with a chrome-cast dongle support.  would be handy for me.  Somthing to hope gets in the future of ubuntu.
[05:39] <kunji> Dr_willis: Archos43 that I've got actually has mini-HDMI out, only problem with that device is that it's pretty slow, but it also has host USB with an adapter, so I can use mouse and keyboard with it as well
[05:40] <Dr_willis> kunji,  my latest hardware toy is a Raspberry Pi. :) so im going the cheap route in my hardware hobbies.
[05:41] <fictionalhippo> danny@fictionalhippo:~$ ip link show 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT      link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT qlen 1000     link/ether 78:ac:c0:c0:e9:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[05:41] <kunji> Dr_willis: got one of those too ^_^ it's nice, even XBMC 1080p video, just the GUI is kinda slow
[05:41] <fictionalhippo> thats my result
[05:41] <clue_h> kunji, i have an archos, the problem is i cant put debian/ubuntu on it as it has no boot option
[05:41] <mJayk> Anyone have a windows phone / how do they sync media
[05:41] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: hard to tell with no formatting
[05:41] <Dr_willis> kunji,  been testing out that Plex-pi disrto on mine lately.  also got xbian going, connecting to my ubuntu upnp server.
[05:41] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: so you have lothats ok you have wired yea i dont see it either
[05:42] <kunji> clue_h: I think you can get the boot option, but I, and least to get Angstrom running, not sure if anyone has gotten Ubuntu running on it
[05:42] <Dr_willis> It is very nice the advances that upnp has made  in the last few years.. ;)
[05:42] <HypnotiX> In what directory should i extract a software? :)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  totally depends on what it is.. and who its for
[05:42] <HypnotiX> its a text editor for me :)
[05:42] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, would you possibly have an email i can send it to?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  stuff for your user, could bekept in their user home.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  no need to move it elsewhere system wide.. unless you wnat all users to access it
[05:43] <clue_h> i'll just keep trying,
[05:43] <HypnotiX> alright thanx
[05:43] <nithin> how can i write a script which shows "good morning " message when the system gets started
[05:43] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: its ok your right it lists only lo and eth0 as network devcies
[05:44] <kunji> See, this looks good though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h384z7Ph0gU&list=UUJ65UG_WgFa_O_odbiBWZoA  ... but when is this hardware coming, and how much will it cost -_-
[05:44] <fictionalhippo> Yeah thats what is making this difficult, but when i do lsusb it shows that is connected to the usb.
[05:45] <mJayk> so it just doesnt recognise it as a network device
[05:45] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: what is the name of the usb stick ?
[05:45] <gogogadget> can anyone recomond a twitter ncurces application?
[05:45] <danny4way> I need help with Wine.
[05:45] <fictionalhippo> 050d:110a Belkin Components
[05:45] <danny4way> I was trying to install windows program. But it seems it installed it well but it's having trouble with starting up.
[05:45] <fictionalhippo> its a wireless usb adapter since i don't have access to an ethernet cord in my room.
[05:46] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: do you have the windows drivers ?
[05:46] <gogogadget> Hello, can anyone recomond a twitter ncurces application for a low resources computer?
[05:46] <sam113101> what's a twitter application?
[05:47] <gogogadget> sam113101: a twitter client that works in console
[05:47] <fictionalhippo> i've got the drivers for it on the install disk. I can see the drivers themselves when i insert the disk and open the files
[05:47] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: gdgd
[05:47] <danny4way> Anyone?
[05:47] <danny4way> I need help with Wine
[05:48] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: try this sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk
[05:48] <kunji> danny4way: Might have better luck in the WINE IRC channel, it's a pretty specific area
[05:48] <||arifaX> danny4way: more info
[05:48] <||arifaX> danny4way: what about the programs name?
[05:48] <danny4way> | |arifaX, Okay basically I am trying to install Microsoft office 2007
[05:49] <mJayk> danny4way: use play on linux
[05:49] <mJayk> danny4way: installs perfectly
[05:49] <danny4way> mJayk, Is play like wine that installs windows program?
[05:49] <fictionalhippo> Ok mJayk, it says it installed fine
[05:49] <danny4way> Or is it microsoft office like program?
[05:50] <mJayk> danny4way: you tel it what you are installing and it sets wine up for that program
[05:50] <||arifaX> danny4way: I can't remember exactly but I think it only works with the commercial wine
[05:50] <danny4way> Now the problem with Wine is that it installs smoothly.
[05:50] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok now try ndiskgt
[05:50] <danny4way> When i load up, it says Unhandled expection: assertion failed in 32-bit code
[05:51] <Dr_willis> MS Office in wine. Eww. ;)
[05:51] <nithin> i am using ubuntu 12.04  OS. i am not able to connect to wifi ca any one help me
[05:51] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, command not found...
[05:51] <mJayk> danny4way: you prolly have some files that are not installed either clibs or crap
[05:51] <tigrang> Anyone know when LO 4.1 will come to ubuntu repos?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> dosent MS have some sort of online-office feature now?
[05:51] <mJayk> Dr_willis: works through wine and yes :(
[05:52] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: you just installed ndisgtk yea
[05:52] <Dr_willis> abiword does all the word processing i need these days. ;)
[05:52] <tigrang> nithin: What happens?  Can you at least see networks?
[05:52] <fictionalhippo> yeah it didn't show any problems
[05:52] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok lets try to find it in the lens i think its in System > Administration > Windows Wireless devices
[05:52] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: we are just trying to run the program you just installed
[05:53] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[05:53] <clue_h> I'm happy to wait a few years for morrowind to be fully ready
[05:53] <mattwj2002> I am running xubuntu it isn't bad
[05:53] <petoo> HI
[05:53] <mattwj2002> :)
[05:53] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: that will load the windows .ini for your usb and tell ubuntu its a wireless devicve
[05:53] <||arifaX> danny4way: winehq says it should work quite well. maybe you pick up a tutorial and follow it http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/how-to-install-microsoft-office-2007-in.html
[05:53] <nithin> yes i am using lenovo laptop i can able to connect to wired network but not for wifi
[05:53] <petoo> How to recover shift+deleted files/folders ?
[05:53] <danny4way> Thank you
[05:54] <fictionalhippo> ok, now here's my next question. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04, how do i get to System > Administration > Windows Wireless Devices?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !undelete | petoo
[05:54] <tigrang> nithin: Can you see wireless networks, but not connect? Or you cant see wireless networks at all?
[05:54] <mJayk> nithin: look for a program called "Additional Drivers" and run that, then select wireless drivers lenovo are proprietary
[05:55] <||arifaX> danny4way: maybe this is better for you: http://www.unixmen.com/install-ms-office2007-on-ubuntu-using-playonlinux/ using playonlinux
[05:55] <petoo> Dr_willis, I am using extundelete and it asks me to first dismount the drive I am using right now. Is it possible at all?
[05:55] <amyassin> Dr_willis: Is there a list of shortcuts for bots somewhere?
[05:55] <Helpme123456789> hello could someone tell me if I am screwed
[05:55] <tigrang> Helpme123456789: you're screwed
[05:55] <Helpme123456789> I just typed apt-get remove wine 1.6 in term
[05:55] <Helpme123456789> and I am watching everything uninstall
[05:55] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: press windows key and type system
[05:55] <Dr_willis> petoo,  you want to unmount the filesystem asap. and work from a live cd. to have the best chance of success.. even then.. its may not be a very big chance.
[05:56] <Helpme123456789> every program on the computer is being uninstalled
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Helpme123456789,  whts the exact command you used?
[05:56] <Helpme123456789> apt-get remove wine 1.6
[05:56] <fictionalhippo> all that comes up is system settings, system log, and system monitor.
[05:56] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, ^
[05:56] <nithin> initially it will not displays the wireless networks available, but if i mention the name of wifi connection available it will starts searching for that connection at that time i can able to see the name of the connection
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Helpme123456789,  err. the package name dosent have a space in it as far as i know.
[05:56] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: go to system settings
[05:56] <Helpme123456789> yhea
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> I know
[05:57] <danny4way> | |arifaX, Thank you
[05:57] <fictionalhippo> ok im there
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> but its to late
[05:57] <Dr_willis> so i dont even see how it did anything  with '1.6'   being an invalid package name
[05:57] <tigrang> Helpme123456789: can't you stop it and re-install whats its uninstalling
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> tryed ctrl c
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> did not stop
[05:57] <danny4way> But I've got other windows program to install too. Because I was a windows user. And I just moved to Ubuntu a few months ago since it's summer break.
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> it just uninstalled everything
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> all icons
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> all apps
[05:57] <danny4way> My school is gonna be open soon so I need all those windows program.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Helpme123456789,  ctrl-c should definatly stop. and i dont see how it even ran being an invalid command.
[05:58] <Helpme123456789> console stopped at configring virtualbox
[05:58] <danny4way> Example: I tried to install iTunes a few days ago because I need to update my iPhone but it shows the same thing about 32 bit problem
[05:58] <Helpme123456789> it might be a bug idk
[05:58] <Helpme123456789> but it should not have uninstalled everything
[05:58] <MonkeyDust> brb
[05:58] <tigrang> Helpme123456789: I cant tried it, and yea I get an error, its not uninstalling everything lol
[05:58] <tigrang> I just tried it*
[05:59] <tigrang> Helpme123456789: try re-installing what it uninstalled, if not, you can back up ur files and re-install
[05:59] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, i was searching all through the system setting earlier trying to find it but came up with nothing. Hopefully you can.
[06:00] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: bugger i made a spelling mistake
[06:00] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: try ndisgtk
[06:00] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: in console
[06:01] <mJayk> you may need to run it as root
[06:02] <fictionalhippo> ok mJayk, so i have it pulled up.
[06:02] <mJayk> you get the window?
[06:02] <Helpme123456789> its still running ctrl_C is not stoping it
[06:02] <Helpme123456789> i want to see the command I put in
[06:02] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok now i thin k you need to go to insert new driver
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> is there another key to stop the term
[06:03] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: then locate the .inf file on the install cd, im not sure which .inf file there may be 2 or 3 but you should beable to work out which one i.e. 32 or 64 bit etc
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> before it uninstalls firefox
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> lol
[06:03] <aeon-ltd> Helpme123456789: uninstalling firefox is no biggie
[06:03] <mJayk> Helpme123456789: try sudo killall terminal ? :p
[06:03] <aeon-ltd> just reinstall it
[06:03] <kunji> I wouldn't stop it
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> its uninstalling the term
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> LOL
[06:04] <Helpme123456789> there went crome
[06:04] <Helpme123456789> there went the unity menu
[06:04] <clue_h> you're saving disk space.
[06:04] <Helpme123456789> D:
[06:04]  * Dr_willis waits for it to remove his irc client.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> since i couldent get it to repeate the problem either.
[06:04] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: any luck ?
[06:04] <Helpme123456789> xchat is gone
[06:05] <kunji> Might as well let it finish, then install it all again.  You don't want your packages in an inconsistent state, which could very well happen if you kill the process.
[06:05] <Helpme123456789> im using webchat in firefox
[06:06] <Helpme123456789> ok its done
[06:06] <fictionalhippo> ok mJayk, so i didn't get any errors and just for saftey i tried to install it a second time and it says driver is already installed. Only, im still not getting any wireless activity.
[06:06] <Helpme123456789> I up arrowed the last command I typed
[06:06] <Helpme123456789> http://pastebin.com/LypVXNAf
[06:07] <clue_h> Helpme123456789, now check /var/log/apt and see what happened
[06:07] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok now (you may need to restart) try ip link show again
[06:07] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: it should come up with number 3 now
[06:09] <dex> hello guys
[06:09] <Balroth> Allo all
[06:09] <mJayk> haya dex Balroth
[06:09] <fictionalhippo> ok mJayk, im gonna restart it and try the command because it's still not showing it. It'll be a few minutes.
[06:09] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: sure
[06:10] <Balroth> Has anyone done VimADventure?
[06:11] <dwane> hello, everyone... does this channel provide any tech support?  =)
[06:11] <mJayk> dwane: it attepts to :)
[06:11] <Dr_willis> only to those that ask support related questions.
[06:11] <Balroth> We try to dwane
[06:11] <dwane> i'm having an issue with totem-audio-preview
[06:12] <kunji> dwane: That the one where it plays sound when you mouse-over the file?
[06:13] <maxiPad3gs> runnin 13.04 desktop on a thinkpad. cant get conky to run at startup. it said that it added it to startup menu during the setup on the terminal/. but i have to ad it manually to startup applications? what is the command for the command box and what should i name it? How to get conky to start up at login? i didi already add it to startup applications with command "conky" but nothing.
[06:13] <dwane> normally when i hover over an audio icon i can hear it played, but now it doesn't -- the sound preferences show totem-audio preview opening/playing the file but the mute checkbox is selected
[06:13] <Dr_willis> That  'feature' has scared the snot out of more then 1 people i know kuji  ;)
[06:14] <kunji> Dr_willis: I thought it disappeared by now, no?
[06:14] <dwane> so how do i unselect the mute option?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  the conky faq mentions adding a little script to run it in your ~/.config/autostart (or was it autorun) directory
[06:14] <Dr_willis> kunji,  i thought it had been removed also.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  basically the script  sleeps for like 30 sec, then runs conky.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  seen examples of this at the conky faq/docs and on askubuntu.com  Im not onmy ubuntu box to pastebin mine.
[06:15] <kunji> dwane: I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, I also need to sleep.  You should probably give full details and someone else will probably be able to help.
[06:15] <fictionalhippo> alright mJayk, so that didnt seem to work. Im still getting the same message when i enter ip link show and there is still no wireless activity.
[06:16] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok i found this while you were away
[06:16] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Main_Page
[06:16] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: see if you can find your wireless usb thing on there
[06:16] <mJayk> itll tell you what .inf file to use and if other people have had sucess
[06:17] <caf4926> *really ndiswrapper is a last resort
[06:17] <beyondcr> Back had to boot off live disc I was just here under the Helpme... username
[06:17] <hdon> hi all :) i have an interesting one for everyone... if i find my computer's clock is 24 hours behind, how can i begin to track down "when" this happened?
[06:17] <maxiPad3gs> until i get this figured out, can i just manually run conky from the terminal each time i start up? how to do that? just type conky in terminal from @myname? and then can i close the terminal window becaue when i do that it warns me that a script is still running but when i close it anyway conky still continues to run until logout?
[06:18] <caf4926> hdon: so instead of 6pm is says 6pm
[06:18] <hdon> caf4926, ha, yes
[06:18] <mJayk> caf4926: its quite common for usb wireless adapts
[06:18] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  the command is 'conky' correct...  if you want to use conky, you really should go to the conky homepage and read some of its docs.
[06:18]  * hdon is glad he doesn't have to ndiswrapper anymore
[06:18] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  run 'conky' then 'exit' at the terminal
[06:19] <caf4926> mJayk: did you find the id of the chip it uses
[06:19] <maxiPad3gs> Dr_willis: i have all last night and today. my new policy is to never waste your time until i have crawled the forums. i am just a hopeless noob is all
[06:19] <Just1n> Really, Conky was just taking up resources and making my screens do weird things when I used to use it about a year ago.  I don't know if it's better now.
[06:19] <mJayk> caf4926: i assume thats what is being looked up atm :)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  i think the conky faq was rather exacting in how to make that startup script.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  its a 3 line script.. #!/bin/bash     sleep 30    conky     (if i recall)
[06:20] <beyondcr> here is whats in apt history.log
[06:20] <maxiPad3gs> Dr_willis: let me go back and re read it all then thank you.
[06:20] <caf4926> *wireless USB devices are so cheap it's easier just to get one that works IMO
[06:20] <beyondcr> http://pastebin.com/xS3i8GWW
[06:20] <beyondcr> why would it remove all that just by putting apt-get remove wine 1.6
[06:20] <Dr_willis> getting conky started should be easy.. getting it configured how you like.. .thats harder.
[06:20] <mJayk> caf4926: i dont really think thats the point :) someone has already purchased the hardware and just want it to work
[06:21] <beyondcr> ok so I was not looking
[06:21] <beyondcr> when I pressed y and enter
[06:21] <beyondcr> was just thinking it was wine till it was to late
[06:22] <caf4926> mJayk: work, fair enough but with some half baked windows .inf from a near obsolete OS
[06:22] <beyondcr> but even still if you do apt-get remove 1.6 it wants to remove just about everything
[06:22] <mJayk> caf4926: work correct
[06:22] <maxiPad3gs> Dr_willis: you are talking about the source forge faq page right? i am going to go over this agin and hopefully get it thanks
[06:23] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  i just recall going to the actual conky homepage with like 10000 examples.. been using conky for literally years now..  (decades?)   every so often theres a resuragnce of people what want to play with it. thenit dies down. then comes back
[06:23] <beyondcr> and having wine installed did not let it get to the error unable to locate package it thought i wanted to remove both things?
[06:23] <maxiPad3gs> ok got it thanks im out.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  there should be some guides and config tools for it on the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites also
[06:24] <maxiPad3gs> okty
[06:24] <Dr_willis> beyondcr,  sudo apt-get remove 1.6 seems to a 'wildcard'  everything it asks to remove here has '1.6' in its name
[06:25] <Dr_willis> 1.6 is a 'regular experssion' for 1(pattern)6
[06:26] <beyondcr> Dr_willis: why would it remove nautilus and network-manager and others that donot say 1.6
[06:26] <Dr_willis> beyondcr,  for example 'sudo apt-get remove lib.' will as to remove everything with lib in its name
[06:26] <Dr_willis> 1.6 also matches 16 and 111121244216 and a lot of other patterns
[06:26] <Quest> can anyone tell me please how to dim down an image in krita?
[06:26] <beyondcr> interesting
[06:26] <Dr_willis> so the lesson is.. be CAREFULL with wildcards. ;)
[06:27] <Dr_willis> well 'regular expressions'
[06:27] <Dr_willis> and for the record.. apt-get does support tab completion
[06:27] <beyondcr> yeah lol I think I learned a little from this one.
[06:27] <beyondcr> well i might aswell reinstall now
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Hmmm saw THIS interesting message for apt-get..
[06:27] <beyondcr> thanks for the time Dr_willis
[06:28] <Dr_willis> 'you are abut to do somthing potentially harmfull'
[06:28] <Dr_willis> to continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[06:28] <Dr_willis> that was at the end of the 'apt-get remove lib.' example
[06:30] <beyondcr> just caught me off guard because I had installed wine from unofficial repos and could not remember the version I wanted to reinstall the offical version
[06:31] <beyondcr> just need to stop saying yes to stuff so quickly
[06:32] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove wine<tab>
[06:32] <Dr_willis> ;)
[06:32] <beyondcr> yhea for some reason the tab auto complete is not doing anything
[06:33] <Dr_willis> make sure thers no space after the wine
[06:33] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[06:33] <beyondcr> auto tab works fine with file names and cd
[06:33] <beyondcr> just not doing anything in apt
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> beyondcr: double tap?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:34] <beyondcr> whats a good program to test auto tab on live disc
[06:35] <aeon-ltd> autocomplete tab?
[06:35] <beyondcr> yhea
[06:35] <fictionalhippo> ok mJayk, sorry about the wait but i found one that is similar to it. The only one closest to mine is the F9L1101v1 mine is F9L1101v2. Do you think it could still be compatable?
[06:35] <aeon-ltd> anything, firefox?
[06:35] <beyondcr> yhea its not working
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> beyondcr: uptime? uname?
[06:36] <beyondcr> i can type apt-g and press tab and it completes
[06:36] <beyondcr> but anything after that it dose nothing
[06:37] <beyondcr> who knows maybe it needs to be updated
[06:38] <N4SSO> could it be that you have an alias set? type 'alias' to get a list.
[06:40] <Munim> I am using ubuntu 13.04 and eclipse ide for java keplar.. it keeps slowing down after starting till it becomes unusable.. Can anyone point out what could be wrong?
[06:40] <beyondcr> on live disc going to hop off to backup some files before I get owned
[06:40] <Munim> and it gives some reindexing error
[06:42] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: Id give it ago its a shame really as im not to sure to be honest
[06:43] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: was the .inf in the location that they mentioned on that site for that card?
[06:43] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: I didn't look, let me check real fast.
[06:44] <punkmexic> hello
[06:44] <punkmexic> is there a way
[06:44] <mJayk> punkmexic: highway ?
[06:44] <punkmexic> the operators put this link on topic http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[06:45] <punkmexic> ubuntu edge can be a great phone only if we support it
[06:45] <punkmexic> it will be a shame if the goal is not reached :(
[06:45] <punkmexic> i feel is not gonna be reached
[06:49] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: So i went ahead and removed the drivers and tried to reinstall them and this is the erro i got. "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found." What should i do?
[06:49] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: you did that via the same method as before ?
[06:50] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: yep. is there something i need to install?
[06:50] <mJayk> no you installed taht
[06:50] <mJayk> i believe
[06:51] <fictionalhippo> im so confused lol
[06:51] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: you tried to uninstall it via ndisgtk yes
[06:52] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: yeah
[06:52] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: have you tried the configure network button inside that program ?
[06:53] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: yeah i tried configuring it and it only shows the ethernet connection.
[06:54] <mJayk> :( im not to sure what to do either then im sorry either try posting on http://ubuntu-discourse.org/
[06:54] <mJayk> or wait around in here some1 else may know more than me
[06:54] <A1Recon> I uninstalled Chrome from Ubuntu using sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-stable  . Do I need to do something else to remove any other files remaining??
[06:55] <petoo> Hi
[06:56] <petoo> !recovery
[06:57] <petoo> What was the link to recover files and folders?
[06:57] <petoo> !recover files
[06:57] <bazhang> !undelete | petoo
[06:57] <petoo> thanks
[06:57] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | A1Recon
[07:05] <BlitzHere> Hi all, I need some pointers. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 off of a USB stick that I created using UNetBootin. I also made reserved 9999MB as I need it to save data after each reboot. Basically I need it to behave sort of like puppy linux.
[07:05] <BlitzHere> IProblem is, no data is saved after each reboot....
[07:07] <mJayk> BlitzHere: you enabled persistance ?
[07:07] <BlitzHere> I made the bootable stick using Lubuntu 13.04, and I have two partitions on the USB stick. A 11.44 GB ext4 partition and a 3 GB swap partition
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, You need it persistent unetbootin offers that, or you can make a partition and name it casper-rw for a persistent bigger than 4 gigs offered by unetbootin
[07:07] <BlitzHere> I did
[07:07] <A1Recon> bazhang: Cant i use sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[07:08] <bazhang> A1Recon, install ppa-purge and run it
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, the iso needs only one gig, a swap is optional.
 wilee-nilee : I did. Made it 9999MB and I used ext4 to get past the 4gig limit
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, How did you make the persistent?
[07:09] <BlitzHere> 11.44 GB ext4 partition and a 3 GB swap partition on 16 GB stick
[07:11] <BlitzHere> wilee-nilee: Space to save data across reboots option in UnetBootIn. The space you can reserve is listed in MB and goes upto 9999. However FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit. So, I made an ext4 partition in the usb stick and got the full 9999MB
[07:12] <BlitzHere> It boots fine, and I have a casper-rw 10GB in size but data wasn't preserved.
[07:12] <BlitzHere> Was ext4 a mistake?
[07:13] <Coburn> no, you're doing it wrong
[07:13] <Coburn> :P
[07:13] <Coburn> I believe there's an option inside Ubuntu to make a bootable USB
[07:13] <Coburn> so you can boot from the Live Image and then use the USB wizard
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, Been awhile sinnce I did this but the iso should be on a small partition like 1 gig a separate partition for the casper-rw and the sap is optional, but honestly with 16 gigs I would do a full install.
[07:14] <soman> dmesg prints something about bluetooth http://paste.kde.org/p68828f6c/50819631/ (from line 783). What does it mean? Is here something for bluetooth used and how can I disable it if I don't use bluetooth?
[07:15] <Coburn> soman: nothing to be concerned, means the bluetooth subsystems have been initialized
[07:15] <Coburn> also means bluetooth is supported on the kernel
[07:16] <BlitzHere> Coburn, wilee-nilee: I'm running the live image right now. should I make another live DVD/USB stick and try to Install on to the 16 GB USB flash drive?
[07:16] <Coburn> yeah
[07:16] <Coburn> the thing is, do the full install on the USB
[07:16] <Coburn> GRUB is smart enough to find the root FS on the USB stick
[07:17] <Coburn> your speed may vary
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> I would do a full install, has to be a manual install, and pointbe sure grub is pointed to the usb's mbr
[07:17] <soman> Coburn: thanks
[07:17] <Coburn> no prob soman
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> I would not say grub is smart enough, the something other manual install might default grub to the usb;s mbr I would just make sure.
[07:23] <Guest42577> Hey guys, I left my computer up from yesterday, when I logged in to my ubuntu 13.04 I found that every thing running slowly, I thought ubuntu would never do that, Is there any explanation why do this happen and how to fix it?
[07:23] <murgero_> hello
[07:23] <murgero_> I am in need of some help
[07:23] <dattashantih> Guest42577: top
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest42577, Run top in the terminal and see whats eating the cpu and gpu
[07:24] <murgero_> Anyone have any idea on porting ubuntu touch?
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> !touch | murosai_
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> murgero_^^^^^^^^^
[07:25] <RayWizard> what is the default way to hibernate in ubuntu? i messed up system a bit, when hibernating it has "s2disk saving snapshot" and stuff log, but i when i boot, while it prints that it restores image it actualy boots to empty desktop
[07:26] <RayWizard> how to resinstall default way of hibernation as default
[07:26] <Kuroshita> Am I able to remove icons from the systray? For example, Tomahawk is in the tray when open by default but I don't want it to.
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, Tray in what desktop?
[07:27] <Kuroshita> unity
[07:27] <dattashantih> Kuroshita: you used to be able to do it in dconf-editor
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, You mean the panel on the left?
[07:27] <Kuroshita> on the right at the top
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> dconf may be it
[07:28] <Kuroshita> it's ugly and not mono so I want to hide it
[07:28] <bita> my mouse click every 2-3 second.please help me?
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> bita, Do you have another mouse to see if it is that mouse?
[07:28] <bita> i change the mouse.it's software
[07:29] <bazhang> !details | bita
[07:29] <dattashantih> Kuroshita: there is a systray-whitelist
[07:29] <dattashantih> Kuroshita: under desktop->unity->panel
[07:29] <Kuroshita> oh neat, where? dattashantih
[07:29] <Kuroshita> sweet thanks I'll give it a go
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, What release is it?
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> I just see this is why I ask. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/unity-notification-area-systray.html
[07:31] <Kuroshita> wilee-nilee, 13.04
[07:31] <Guest42577> dattashantih, wilee-nilee , java takes about 25% and firefox about 14%
[07:32] <Kuroshita> dattashantih, I can't find the option in 13.04
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/unity-notification-area-systray.html
[07:32] <Guest42577> dattashantih, wilee-nilee , how to order the rows according to mem usage
[07:32] <bita> bazhang: my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same
[07:32] <dattashantih> Kuroshita: they may have removed it, i haven't used unity in a while
[07:32] <odinsbane> Can I upgrade ubuntu but keep the same ssh keys?
[07:33] <odinsbane> Sorry, not just upgrade but a full reinstall.
[07:33] <dattashantih> odinsbane: just  backup .ssh/id*
[07:33] <bita> ubottu:my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same
[07:34] <Kuroshita> wilee-nilee, oh right, tomahawk is qt so I suppose I should be asking how to remove appindicators, or I suppose I could remove the sni-qt package
[07:34] <odinsbane> dattashantih: so as long as I keep the save private/public key pairs it should be ok?
[07:35] <DuncanNZ> why are there 3 floodbots?
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, Not sure of a plan of action myself
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> DuncanNZ, Becasue 4 was to many.
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[07:35] <dattashantih> odinsbane: yeah, unless you want to also keep your known_hosts and authorized_keys
[07:35] <DuncanNZ> wilee-nilee: lol but is there an actual reason for more than one?
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> DuncanNZ, Probably just a backup plan so they are always running
[07:36] <dattashantih> Guest42577: type ? in top, it differes between the distros
[07:37] <MonkeyDust> DuncanNZ  in case there's a netsplit and a floodbot should be cut off from the network
[07:37] <odinsbane> dattashantih: no, it is mainly so that I can keep access to a remote server that requires public key authorization. The guy running the server is hard to get ahold of if I need to change public keys.
[07:37] <DuncanNZ> wilee-nilee: ah yes, by whois-ing them all they all come from different locations
[07:37] <DuncanNZ> MonkeyDust: oh, ok makes sense now. thanks
[07:37] <Kuroshita> wilee-nilee, yeah I removed the sni-qt package, nothing is having a fit. I'm ok with this
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, excellent in the voice of Mr Burns
[07:38] <dattashantih> odinsbane: then you should be fine with the just the key pair
[07:38] <bita> my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same.i changed mouse and change destktop to unity(now gnome) but nothing changed.
[07:38] <dattashantih> odinsbane: just make sure it is from the correct user, if you have more than one
[07:39] <bita> plz help me
[07:39] <ffio> i have created lfs and i want to add ubuntu installer to it, how can i do it ?
[07:41] <TheJHNZ> Could I get some of you to answer my survey please? http://goo.gl/vgIRWo
[07:41] <bita> bazhang: my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same.i changed mouse and change destktop to unity(now gnome) but nothing changed.
[07:41] <ikonia> TheJHNZ: we don't do surveys/polls in the channel
[07:41] <TheJHNZ> Sorry ! Didnt know
[07:41] <ikonia> TheJHNZ: not a problem
[07:42] <ikonia> TheJHNZ: I'd advise caution against spamming it in other channels as you are doing now
[07:42] <TheJHNZ> Was just posting it in a couple :)
[07:56] <justaguy> y
[07:56] <justaguy> yo
[07:57] <dattashantih> hello
[07:59] <justaguy> all that quits and joins
[07:59] <justaguy> xd
[07:59] <DJones> Thats normal for this channel, you can hide them in your IRC client if you want
[07:59] <q_> Hello
[08:00] <justaguy> well freenode is huge
[08:00] <q_> Can I ask something?
[08:00] <blazemore> !ask | q_
[08:01] <justaguy> :D
[08:01] <Lunar_LanderU> hello, got a question on harddrive permissions: I got a second drive in my PC now and I had to go to drive manager, format it with ext3 and then also had to tick "Become Owner of this drive"
[08:01] <Lunar_LanderU> do I have to do this every time?
[08:01] <Lunar_LanderU> i.e. what if the prime drive crashes and I have to get a new one?
[08:02] <Lunar_LanderU> I wouldn't want to format the second drive
[08:02] <ikonia> you don't need to touch the second drive
[08:02] <Lunar_LanderU> yeah but when I first installed it, ubuntu saw the drive, but it refused to copy to it at first
[08:02] <Lunar_LanderU> it said "you are not the owner"
[08:02] <ikonia> Lunar_LanderU: you are the owner now, so it's fine
[08:03] <Lunar_LanderU> yeah
[08:03] <q_> I've installed ruby, rvm, ruby gems, and tried to install rails.It seems to be installed, but when i open new terminal window and type rails, terminal says that rails is not installed
[08:03] <Lunar_LanderU> what I meant is if the main drive crashes and the second then is some sort of backup
[08:03] <ikonia> q_: how did you install rails ?
[08:03] <q_> gem
[08:03] <q_> gem install rails
[08:03] <ikonia> Lunar_LanderU: the second drive is not a backup
[08:03] <Lunar_LanderU> ok
[08:03] <ikonia> q_: there you go then, that is not the ubuntu package manager, that is internal to ruby
[08:04] <Lunar_LanderU> so if the first drive malfunctions, the second one is lost?
[08:04] <ikonia> Lunar_LanderU: no the second one is just that a second drive, containing whatever data you put on it
[08:04] <Lunar_LanderU> yea
[08:04] <odinsbane> q_: did you have to use sudo when you did gem install rails?
[08:05] <q_> nope i didnt
[08:05] <q_> should i?
[08:05] <odinsbane> q_: no.
[08:05] <odinsbane> q_: It probably installed it to a local directory, if you add it to your path you should be able to use rails.
[08:06] <q_> please say me how to add it to PATH
[08:06] <odinsbane> q_: If you do not know how to add it to your path you might want to use the ubuntu package manager. IE apt-get install rails
[08:07] <q_> Thanks a lot for helping!
[08:07] <q_> Bye
[08:08] <maxiPad3gs> i have just noticed that the "unity-scope-gdr" is very active on my desktop in the background like all the time. is this normal?
[08:10] <kike__> hi, does anybody knows how to open regular torrent files with anomos??
[08:10] <MonkeyDust> kike__  ubuntu has deluge and transmission
[08:12] <q_> You was right, problem was with path.I edited .bashrc and it seems to be working
[08:12] <q_> Thanks!
[08:13] <maxiPad3gs> i fixed my problem with Conky by startup applications command conky -p 30. giving it a 30 second wait time. and then the blinking screen fix was editing the .conkyrc file to "own_window no" from "yes"
[08:13] <Lunar_LanderU> thanks again ikonia
[08:17] <justaguy> ubuntu + laptops = pain in the ass
[08:17] <ikonia> justaguy: don't need random comments
[08:17] <MonkeyDust> justaguy  works fine here
[08:18] <justaguy> I had alot off problems with my wlan and my LAN , my cd-drive and my USB ports
[08:18] <justaguy> But, once you have it working , it's great :D
[08:21] <Amunere> 00x01
[08:22] <justaguy> it works very good to be honest
[08:23] <ikonia> right, so your earlier comment was just nonsense
[08:25] <justaguy> ikonio : Yes but it was kind off frustrating to get it working
[08:29] <Tantor> Hello. I am installing a private cloud with MAAS. Now I have a problem on one node, on the screen keeps coming this error: bmc-config:1625 map pfn expected mapping type uncached-minus for 8f669000-8f66a000, got write back. And after a while the node will just shutdown. On the webinterface the node does show up as 'ready'
[08:29] <Tantor> I searched on google, but I can't find anything about this error
[08:29] <justaguy> "Have you tried switching it on and off" oww wait this is #ubuntu :d
[08:30] <ikonia> justaguy: stop now
[08:30] <ikonia> justaguy: if you can't help someone - don't speak, stop making silly comments please.
[08:30] <justaguy> lets catch some sleep i'm making non sense comments when i'm tired
[08:35] <echevemaster> Tantor: you did an update of BMC firmware?
[08:39] <echevemaster> Tantor: what's the out of the lpmi service?
[08:39] <echevemaster> Can be a hardware or firmware issue, or the driver doesn't charged in the kernel
[08:44] <blazemore> When you run Skype for the first time, it pops up a GUI asking you to accept the Terms of Use. Is there any way to accept these terms from the command line, so I can use Finch with Skype on my headless server?
[08:44] <ikonia> blazemore: no, I beleive its gui driven only
[08:45] <blazemore> ikonia: I wonder if I copied my Skype directory from the desktop if it'd work
[08:46] <echevemaster> blazemore: afaik, skype doesn't have a cli interface
[08:48] <echevemaster> Finch only is the cli version of pidgin
[08:49] <metxas> hi every brody
[08:50] <dattashantih> hello
[08:50] <FleaFlicker> allo
[08:50] <lasers> blazemore: http://wiki.bitlbee.org/HowtoSkype -- Somewhat relevant. It is possible that you still have to run the Skype (GUI) on headless server(?). :o
[08:51] <blazemore> Thanks lasers - I should have guessed bitlbee would be easier to find resources for than Finch
[08:53] <[[thufir]]> how do you install dns?  I'm not running a server..
[08:54] <blazemore> !details | [[thufir]] What are you trying to achieve
[09:01] <hack13> not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am having issues with a new installation of ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit on one of my dedicated servers.
[09:03] <DJones> hack13: This loks like the right place, feel free to explain the problem here, or if its Ubuntu server you could also ask in #ubuntu-server (which a server specific channel, but will have less people in)
[09:06] <dazzle> I have eth0 and eth1 (integrated & pci-e). Normally only eth0 is in use. When I plug in eth1, everything starts to go through that interface - and I don't want this. I want to use eth0 for it. I want to use eth1 specifically to be a bridged adapter to Virtualbox. How do I do this?
[09:06] <[[thufir]]> blazemore: I don't want to use the DNS from my ISP, but an "open" dns installed locally.
[09:07] <nxis> hi
[09:08] <blazemore> [[thufir]]: You can change your DNS settings in network manager
[09:08] <blazemore> [[thufir]]: Do you already have your local DNS set up?
[09:08] <[[thufir]]> no, I don't have local dns.  that's what I was trying to ask.
[09:08] <blazemore> What have you tried?
[09:08] <[[thufir]]> I didn't know the term.  I looked through apt-cache, but don't want a server.  I'll google local dns.
[09:09] <blazemore> You do want a server
[09:09] <[[thufir]]> oh, ok.
[09:09] <blazemore> But it depends what you want to achieve from this
[09:09] <[[thufir]]> I only want to do lookup (www.whatever to ip address) because I think my ISP does it crummy (I think)
[09:10] <blazemore> It will have to look up from your ISP at some point
[09:10]  * [[thufir]] thinks
[09:10] <solars> hey, can anyone suggest a lightweight email client (graphical)? I'm getting tired of this huge thunderbird monster
[09:10] <blazemore> If you aren't happy using your ISP's servers why not use another open public DNS server like Google or OpenDNS
[09:10] <blazemore> solars: Claws is lightweight
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: is this as a permanent seting, or just for one resolution now?
[09:11] <[[thufir]]> solars: probably you just need to not download everything.  it's the sync settings.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> solars: claws-mail
[09:11] <[[thufir]]> ActionParsnip: permanent.  I think I want opendns for local purposes.
[09:11] <blazemore> [[thufir]]: So change your DNS settings to use OpenDNS, you don't need to run a local caching DNS server, it's overkill
[09:11]  * [[thufir]] goes off to look into opendsn.
[09:11] <[[thufir]]> thanks
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: you can use hosts to set the name to IP resolution if you want to force a certain IP
[09:13] <nxis> I have a question regarding, which distro to choose for my EeePC900 netbook. I've already tried Lubuntu and very liked it, however lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS and 13.04 is quite buggy. Therefore I tried vanilla 12.04 Ubuntu, but it seems quite laggy on my netbook. Should I try xubuntu 12.04 or simply install another DE?
[09:13] <blazemore> nxis: Xubuntu is fairly lightweight
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> nxis: +1 for Xubuntu
[09:14] <nxis> ok, then should I install from scratch or just add another DE?
[09:14] <blazemore> nxis: Or you could start with a Xubuntu base system, and install a super-lightweight window manager like Openbox (Similar to Crunchbang, a debian-based distro)
[09:14] <nxis> I've already tried awesome, and understood that i'm not yet ready for such environment =)
[09:15] <blazemore> nxis: If you don't need to stick with the Ubuntu route, Crunchbang is the best lightweight distro I've used
[09:16] <blazemore> But they provide instructions for how to add Crunchbang features to other distros too, so you could do that
[09:17] <nxis> and what about installing xubuntu? is there any differences between installing xubuntu from scratch, or adding corresponding packet via apt-get?
[09:18] <blazemore> nxis: You can install the "xubuntu-desktop" package
[09:19] <nxis> wouldn't there be some sort of conflicting applications (ubuntu/xubuntu)?
[09:19] <FleaFlicker> only difference i could think of is support
[09:19] <FleaFlicker> nah you can pick between the different desktops
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> nvyou can install the xfce4 package then log off and log in to the XFCE session in LightDM
[09:20] <solars> blazemore, ActionParsnip mm but claws doesn't support html emails right? some partners only send html crap..
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> solars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> solars: sylpheed maybe....
[09:22] <arash> Hello , I have problems updating steam client on ubuntu 13.04
[09:22] <solars> I'll have a look at that
[09:22] <arash> fatal error : steam needs to be online to update
[09:23] <nxis> btw, what about kubuntu 12.04? it seems to be also more efficient than ubuntu with unity?
[09:24] <nxis> i never liked kde however =)
[09:25] <nxis> in fact I'm looking for something widely enough spread (as ubuntu), but not so ugly and slowly (as unity)
[09:26] <FleaFlicker> lxde is light weight, i'm running xfce on my chromebook along side chrome, works ok
[09:27] <FleaFlicker> mouse support for laptops in xfce is terribad though
[09:28] <nxis> yeah, i liked lxde, but it seems to have rather limited community: as I said before, 13.04 has too much issues, and 12.04 does not have lts
[09:28] <FleaFlicker> 12.04 is lts
[09:29] <blazemore> lubuntu 12.04 isn;t, FleaFlicker
[09:29] <FleaFlicker> oh ic
[09:30] <FleaFlicker> have you tried unity in 2d mode? maybe it's not so bad?
[09:31] <nxis> yes, but i did not notice any performance advantages
[09:31] <nxis> also I prefer old style look'n'feel (like gnome 2)
[09:32] <FleaFlicker> hmm, maybe try linux mint then, or you can install cinnamon on unbuntu i believe
[09:33] <nxis> is there LTS in mint?
[09:33] <arash> Is there any fix ? :-( Im getting steam needs to be online to update
[09:33] <FleaFlicker> not 100% sure how they work, but i believe they track ubuntu, so it's possible
[09:34] <FleaFlicker> thought steam was only supported on 12.04
[09:34] <FleaFlicker> dont really pay attention to steam much
[09:36] <jost> Has someone had experience with NVIDIA fakeRAID? When rebuilding it in the BIOS tool, I regain control immediately, but the status of the array switches to "Rebuild". How and when is the real rebuild happening?
[09:38] <FleaFlicker> does fake RAID = software raid?
[09:38] <nxis> well thanks for your answers. i think i will give a try to xubuntu.
[09:38] <jost> FleaFlicker: No, its a hybrid
[09:39] <jost> Its supported by the mainboard, but needs software support from the OS
[09:40] <christian> where is ubuntu 13.10 http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[09:40] <__sjh> anyone know a quick command to get an interfaces current ipv4 address ONLY, for use elsewhere in a script, without chucking through a regex
[09:41] <__sjh> "ifconfig eth0 | awk 'BEGIN { FS = "\n"; RS = "" } { print $2 }' | sed -e 's/ .*addr://' -e 's/ .*//'"  is something i've found online but it seems a bit mental
[09:42] <k1l_> Guest18892: its not released yet. 13.10 means october 2013. for development support ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:42] <FleaFlicker> use hostname -I
[09:42] <FleaFlicker> that's a capital i
[09:43] <__sjh> FleaFlicker, that shows a loopback
[09:43] <__sjh> ah!
[09:43] <FleaFlicker> not lower case upper case
[09:43] <FleaFlicker> upper case shows ipv4 address
[09:44] <__sjh> a simpler regex to take output to first space is clean enough there i think
[09:45] <__sjh> FleaFlicker, thx!
[09:45] <FleaFlicker> your welcome
[09:52] <zrtuioo>  i would like to hack ubuntu website
[09:52] <zrtuioo> what i have to look for ?
[09:52] <blazemore> !ot | zrtuioo
[09:59] <StarOnD> Hello I tried to do boot repair, here is the url that was output >> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5924657/, it is still now working, can someone have a look and help me ?
[09:59] <ikonia> StarOnD: why did you do boot repair ?
[09:59] <blazemore> !details | StarOnD what problem are you having?
[10:00] <StarOnD> ikonia, I want a seperate copy of ubuntu 13.04 in addition to my current one,
[10:00] <ikonia> StarOnD: so why did you do bootrepair ?
[10:02] <StarOnD> so I got a live cd , partitioned my disk which already has win + ubuntu 13, added an entry to 40_custom as advised on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[10:02] <gregor_> hey how can i be in 2 rooms at the same time in xchat ?
[10:02] <StarOnD> I wanted a seperate copy of ubuntu 13
[10:03] <blazemore> gregor_: just type /join #channel
[10:03] <StarOnD> how can I easily have multiple OS's and add them to grub2 ?
[10:03] <ikonia> StarOnD: I understand you want seperate copies, but that doesn't make sense why you are using bootrepair ?
[10:04] <ikonia> StarOnD: boot repair fixes failed booting, that has nothing to do with wanting a seperate copy
[10:05] <StarOnD> on that page it tells me to edit 40_custom for grub2. when I did that, it gave me an error kernel needs to be loaded or something similar
[10:05] <StarOnD> so it needed bootrepair
[10:06] <ikonia> StarOnD: you really shouldn't need boot repair
[10:06] <ikonia> StarOnD: you've edited a file wrong - put it back to normal, verify it's working, then try again learning the mistake
[10:07] <ikonia> rather than just blindly firing a boot repair session at something that doesn't have a boot problem
[10:07] <FleaFlicker> that 40_custom rule is for ubuntu 9.10, that's a bit stale
[10:07] <ikonia> FleaFlicker: it's still valid in later versions as far as I can see
[10:08] <FleaFlicker> read the instructions
[10:08] <flipper88_fl> R\eadt he man pages FleaFlicker
[10:09] <FleaFlicker> those instructions are for if you have 9.10, clearly that is not the case
[10:09] <ikonia> FleaFlicker: is the 40_custom rule not valid in later versions ?
[10:09] <flipper88_fl> 9.10 was eoled i thought?
[10:09] <FleaFlicker> doesn't matter, it's not valid in this case
[10:10] <ikonia> FleaFlicker: explain how it's not valid ?
[10:10] <ikonia> FleaFlicker: is the 40_custom grub option no longer valid ?
[10:10] <flipper88_fl> Is there a way to emulate osx other than purchasing the software from Crapple
[10:10] <FleaFlicker> are you reading the posted instructions?
[10:10] <ikonia> flipper88_fl: it's called "apple"
[10:11] <ikonia> FleaFlicker: I'm not asking about the instructions, I'm asking if 40_custom is no longer valid ?
[10:11] <ActionPa1snip> flipper88_fl: Ive seen that there is a wine-like solution for OSX
[10:11] <flipper88_fl> I know I ahaapen to be ravidlyanti apple and microfot
[10:11] <ikonia> flipper88_fl: and no ther eis no ubuntu virtualization that will support mac os X
[10:12] <flipper88_fl> I know I ahaapen to be ravidlyanti apple and microsot due to having been cheated out of several hundered USD by each enterprise
[10:12] <ActionPa1snip> flipper88_fl: are there mac specific apps?
[10:13] <glick> hi, whats the easiest way to install skype on 12.04?
[10:13] <ikonia> !skype | glick
[10:14] <ActionPa1snip> flipper88_fl: why would you want to?
[10:14] <flipper88_fl> I might just have tos ave my pennies and virtualize win7 or 8 so i can hAVE MS OFFICE 2K10
[10:14] <glick> thanks
[10:14] <ikonia> flipper88_fl: do you have an ubuntu question ?
[10:15] <ActionPa1snip> flipper88_fl: does it not run in Wine?
[10:15] <ActionPa1snip> flipper88_fl: could use google docs / libreoffice instead
[10:15] <iShotz> For some reason my computer randomlys logs me out when i'm using it, i'm xubuntu 13.04
[10:16] <ActionPa1snip> flipper88_fl: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/how-to-install-microsoft-office-suite-2010-in-ubuntu-12-04-using-wine-1-5/
[10:16] <ActionPa1snip> isbric: have you tested RAM health using Memtest86+ from Grub?
[10:17] <iShotz> Sorry about that it logged me out again
[10:17] <inerkick> I am getting this error 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/5924745/'
[10:17] <inerkick> kindly help
[10:18] <ActionPa1snip> ishotz: have you tested RAM health using Memtest86+ from Grub?
[10:18] <ikonia> inerkick: remove the file it's complaining about, re-run sudo apt-get update
[10:18] <blazemore> inerkick: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[10:19] <inerkick> ok will try
[10:19] <glick> when i run the add-architecture command i get the following error
[10:19] <glick> dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[10:19] <ActionPa1snip> inerkick: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[10:19] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: saving that one
[10:19] <ikonia> glick: why are you adding an architecture,
[10:20] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: its the synaptic fix broken packages commands in a handy script because I'm lazy
[10:20] <ikonia> glick: you understand that risks that brings
[10:20] <inerkick> thans ActionPa1snip
[10:20] <glick> ikonia, so i can install skype
[10:20] <ikonia> glick: where does it tell you to do that ?
[10:20] <glick> ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[10:20] <flipper88_fl> Is skype in the nonfree repos?
[10:21] <ikonia> glick: so what's the command you are actually using
[10:21] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[10:21] <glick> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[10:21] <ikonia> glick: and the error you get ?
[10:21] <glick> dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[10:21] <ikonia> glick: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[10:22] <inerkick> I'm getting this errror now "http://paste.ubuntu.com/5924756/" ActionPa1snip ikonia blazemore
[10:22] <glick> ikonia, Linux pluto 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:13:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:22] <ikonia> glick: all looks fine
[10:22] <blazemore> inerkick: You broke your sources.list file
[10:23] <inerkick> brr.
[10:23] <ikonia> inerkick: look at the hostname
[10:23] <inerkick> i am getting an update for ubuntu 12.10
[10:23] <ActionPa1snip> inerkick: what is the output of:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit /etc/apt/resolv.conf
[10:23] <inerkick> I haven't done quite long time
[10:23] <glick> hmm when i do apt-get install skype it says i have unmet dependancies of skype-bin
[10:23] <inerkick> should i give the full command ActionPa1snip
[10:23] <ikonia> inerkick: dists/.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <glick> i thought apt-get would take care of dependancies for me
[10:23] <ikonia> inerkick: you can't have a / in a hostname
[10:23] <ikonia> glick: something seems wrong here,
[10:24] <glick> yea ikonia
[10:24] <glick> im following the skype howto from ubuntu.com
[10:24] <glick> and it seems to not be working
[10:24] <blazemore> glick: Try now sudo apt-get -f install
[10:25] <glick> blazemore, what does that do
[10:25] <blazemore> glick: will install dependencies
[10:25] <ikonia> blazemore: not if he's not got the repos/arch enabled
[10:26] <ikonia> I'm not convinced by those ubuntu instructions any more and their validity, i'll need to check them
[10:28] <ActionPa1snip> inerkick: sorry, pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:28] <FleaFlicker> readin the man page says dpkg --foreign-architecture i386, not seeing anything about --add-architecture
[10:29] <ActionPa1snip> inerkick: just the URL created fro mthe command I gave is fine. Thanks
[10:31] <OerHeks> ikonia, this --add-architecture is recommended on the tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype i understand why you are afraid of it.
[10:33] <ikonia> OerHeks: it concerns me
[10:33] <StarOnD> is it initrd.gz or init.lz?
[10:33] <ikonia> StarOnD: is what ?
[10:33] <glick> OerHeks, it doesnt seem to be working
[10:33] <glick> so its not much of a useful tutorial
[10:34] <ikonia> top
[10:34] <ikonia> oops
[10:34] <StarOnD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux, on this page for ubuntu 13.04 ,will we use initrd.lz?
[10:35] <ikonia> StarOnD: it looks like a typo
[10:35] <FleaFlicker> substitute sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 with sudo dpkg --foreign-architecture i386
[10:36] <StarOnD> it should be gz ?
[10:37] <ikonia> StarOnD: why are you doing this ?
[10:37] <StarOnD> how do we make  a similar menu entry for a different os ?
[10:37] <ikonia> StarOnD: why are you not just doing a seperate install as you anted
[10:37] <ikonia> wanted
[10:37] <StarOnD> that's what I am doing, installing 2 copies of ubuntu + some other linuces
[10:38] <ikonia> StarOnD: the installed should detect the other OS's during the install
[10:38] <StarOnD> how will I choose between them if I dont make a grub2 entry?
[10:39] <StarOnD> okay, how do I do a seperate install from inside linux ?
[10:39] <vnc786> hello all !! i am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and i want to know use of this /usr/share/dict/words  where i see lots of words how do i get meaning of this word
[10:40] <ikonia> StarOnD: why from "inside linux" just do a standard install
[10:40] <StarOnD>  dont havea usb or cd
[10:40] <Oins> I try to find out which smartcard reader (hardware) I have build in. I have a Dell Latitude E6400. Any clue how to find out which hardware is assembled?
[10:40] <StarOnD> okay, how do I go from one usb to 2nd usb ?
[10:40] <StarOnD> I dont have a cd
[10:41] <blazemore> Oins: lsusb or lspci
[10:41] <blazemore> vnc786: You will have to install a dictionary application from the Software Centre
[10:42] <ikonia> StarOnD: how did you install the first one
[10:43] <StarOnD> its been a long time , I forget
[10:45] <StarOnD> maybe through windows ? I dont recall now , but now thatI have one ubuntu, I prefer this way
[10:45] <N03L> Helllo people, made the switch from UBUNTU to KUBUNTU a while ago, anyone know any musthave apps for this?
[10:45] <ActionPa1snip> N03L: depends on your needs
[10:45] <vnc786> blazemore: so that dictionary will use this path ? is there any command line option to get meaning of words..
[10:46] <ActionPa1snip> N03L: kubuntu-restricted-extras is a good one to add in
[10:46] <blazemore> vnc786: No, that dict is just a list of words
[10:46] <blazemore> N03L: kTorrent for a torrent client
[10:46] <Aaruni> Ubuntu is giving me seriously low audio output. here is alsa info : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8eba5e8b0aac25910bda6260a02542173342c8c5
[10:46] <blazemore> Aaruni: Install the application "pavucontrol" and run it; check all your volume levels
[10:46] <ActionPa1snip> Aaruni: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels maxed?
[10:47] <FleaFlicker> vnc786: you can use the command 'look' to use the dictionary
[10:48] <Aaruni> ActionPa1snip: all but master is maxed. master is at 66.
[10:48] <FleaFlicker> they do not however provide definitions
[10:48] <ActionPa1snip> Aaruni: crank it! :)
[10:48] <FleaFlicker> for example, look cloud
[10:48] <Aaruni> blazemore: pavucontrol gives me the system sound that I have set, nothing more
[10:48] <N03L> ActionPa1snip: Certainly looks useful, I'll look into that. Right now, I'm interested in apps that can help navigation and management more easier or organized etc.
[10:49] <ikonia> StarOnD: pretty imporant to know, as if you did it through windows, that's a wubi install, and the instructions you are following is not valid
[10:49] <Tantor> Could someone tell me if I should install the 64 bit or 32 bit edition on a computer with an AMD Athlon II X2 255 processor?
[10:49] <Aaruni> ActionPa1snip: still very low
[10:49] <ikonia> Tantor: is it a 64bit compatible processor ?
[10:49] <N03L> blazemore: I seem to be having problems with Ktorrent, but I haven't bothered to fix it, will defs do that when I get the chance. Cheers for the reminder though.
[10:49] <FleaFlicker> do your speakers have a manual volume control on them?
[10:49] <Tantor> I don't know. How can I find out that?
[10:49] <blazemore> Tantor: If it supports 64 bit, use the 64 bit version
[10:49] <vnc786> FleaFlicker: yeah just ran that cmd then what is the use of all words coming on screen but not providing meaning Or is any other special use ?
[10:50] <blazemore> vnc786: For spellcheck mainly
[10:50] <FleaFlicker> vnc786: no, they do not provide definitions, it's just a list of words
[10:50] <ActionPa1snip> N03L: organisation of what?
 do your speakers have a manual volume control on them? : its a laptop, no hardware switches
[10:51] <ActionPa1snip> Aaruni: are there any bugs reported?
[10:51] <Aaruni> ActionPa1snip: no bugs, I think. see the alsainfo for yourself.
[10:51] <FleaFlicker> Tantor: are you running windows right now?
[10:51] <N03L> ActionPa1snip: files and stuff, dolphin is a pretty neat file manager, but if there's something that tops it in anyone's mind, I'll look into it.
[10:52] <Tantor> No, there was some very old version of fedora on this machine
[10:52] <ikonia> Tantor: it should support 64bit
[10:52] <Tantor> Ok, thanks
[10:52] <Prufrock> Hi all
[10:53] <ActionPa1snip> N03L: images can be managed by shotwell etc, music can be managed by AMarok etc.....
[10:54] <ActionPa1snip> N03L: or digikam etc.
[10:55] <D-Chymera1> hi guys, I bought an external hard drive and want to use it to store and shutte data between computers. I'll be dealing with a lot of brain imaging data (so rather large files, ~10GB per file). What format would you recommend? I need it to a) allow large files b) be readable by windows/mac systems c) have FOSS recovery/repair tools (I've been having some nasty experiences with NTFS)
[10:55] <Aaruni> ActionPa1snip, blazemore : maybe if I say that I am comparing the output to windows which dualboots on the same machine, the problem makes more sense to you guys ?
[10:56] <ActionPa1snip> D-Chymera1: ntfs
[10:56] <blazemore> Aaruni: Maybe Windows controls some sort of hardware volume; try booting into Windows, setting the volume to full, and then boot back to Ubuntu
[10:56] <Aaruni> blazemore: tried that, didn't fix anything
[10:56] <ActionPa1snip> D-Chymera1: remember to use the safe removal feature in your OSes to make sure the storage is ok
[10:57] <ActionPa1snip> D-Chymera1: windows cannot access a great many file systems and is restricting your choices because it sucks
[10:57] <Aaruni> ActionPa1snip: AFAIK, OSX can't write onto NTFS, only read from there.
[10:57] <ActionPa1snip> Aaruni: i see, weird
[10:57] <D-Chymera1> ActionPa1snip: any other formats?
[10:58] <Aaruni> D-Chymera1: maybe you can try exFAT
[10:58] <ActionPa1snip> http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/02/enable-write-for-ntfs-hard-drives-on.html
[10:58] <ActionPa1snip> D-Chymera1: again, windows is holding you back, FAT32 has a max file size of 4Gb
[10:58] <ActionPa1snip> D-Chymera1: exfat maybe, as Aaruni
[10:59] <FleaFlicker> you can also get ext2 support for windows and mac
[11:00] <ikonia> but it is very weak
[11:00] <ikonia> and can often cause corruption
[11:01] <Aaruni> can ubuntu use HFS+ filesystems ?
[11:01] <FleaFlicker> can read
[11:01] <Aaruni> no write ?
[11:01] <FleaFlicker> doesnt do well with writes
[11:01] <bekks> Aaruni: R/O, but Windows cant even read HFS+
[11:01] <FleaFlicker> very limited support
[11:01] <Aaruni> bekks: for windows there is HFSExplorer, but that's read only too.. windows is indeed holding D-Chymera1 back..
[11:03] <FleaFlicker> pretty sure exfat is the only one to work on all three, however, the disk size may become an issue
[11:03] <macram> FleaFlicker: why?
[11:04] <macram> exFAT doesn't have a volume size limit, nor FAT32
[11:04] <FleaFlicker> i believe exfat is for flash devices
[11:04] <FleaFlicker> ah ok
[11:04] <macram> FleaFlicker: yeah, but it's not because of the disk size. It's because it lacks journaling, and it supports large volumes and files >4GB
[11:05] <macram> NTFS wouldn't be efficient in a flash drive
[11:06] <glick2> wow, i tried linux mint and its not polished AT ALL
[11:07] <glick2> ubuntu is pretty polished as far as linux distros go
[11:07] <glick2> even though i dont personally like unity
[11:07] <glick2> i think its fine for my mothers pc
[11:07] <Aaruni> if D-Chymera1 is using huge files, is it safe to assume that it will be an external HDD, and not a flash drive ?
[11:07] <FleaFlicker> what don't you like about unity?
[11:08] <glick2> FleaFlicker, im just used to the traditional desktop
[11:08] <bgardner> glick2: Did you have a support question?
[11:08] <Aaruni> I really like Unity. minimalistic, yet efficient
[11:09] <glick2> bgardner, uhh not at this exact moment
[11:09] <Aaruni> !ot | glick2
[11:10] <ffio> what does this means " how do i create completely unattended install for ubuntu "
[11:12] <ActionPa1snip> ffio: with all the options set so the install never stops as it has the answers to the questions it asks
[11:12] <Aaruni> ffio: it means that you start the installer and it installs on its own, not asking you for any inputs like keyboard layout, language, time zone, account details, etc. all these values are read from a file, and the install does not need a user sitting in front of the machine to input the installer questions
[11:12] <Aaruni> hence, unattended install.
[11:13] <ffio> Aaruni: thanks now i understood, it was really simple lang good :)
[11:13] <ffio> ActionPa1snip: thanks :)
[11:13] <Aaruni> ffio: you're welcome
[11:14] <ffio> :)
[11:15] <joako537> Hello everyone
[11:15] <Aaruni> hello joako537
[11:17] <joako537> Hi Aaruni :)
[11:17] <Aaruni> you have a question ?
[11:17] <Aaruni> I'm eager to help :)
[11:17] <loldongs> AS THE LORD STRUCK DOWN WITH MIGHTY POWER, HE SAID
[11:18] <loldongs> "INSTALL GENTOO"
[11:18] <joako537> Thanks for asking, Im just new to this IRC chat thing Im just experimenting with it
[11:18] <cfhowlett> loldongs, offtopic and SHOUTING.  clever.
[11:18] <loldongs> THE NATION'S USE FLAGS BEGAN TO RUMBLE AND SHAKE IN HIS GLORY
[11:18] <joako537> like the networks and channels and stuff
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !ops|loldongs,
[11:19] <sabgenton> anybody know what package installs hexdump?
[11:19] <ActionPa1snip> !find hexdump
[11:19] <sabgenton> dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which hexdump))
[11:19] <sabgenton> ok
[11:20] <ActionPa1snip> sabgenton: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/libdata-hexdumper-perl/filelist
[11:20] <sabgenton> ActionPa1snip: is there a command line tool that does that?
[11:20] <sabgenton> out of interest
[11:21] <ActionPa1snip> !info hexdump
[11:21] <ActionPa1snip> !info hd
[11:21] <ActionPa1snip> sabgenton: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:22] <sabgenton> Iv got a a cut down version of 12.04
[11:22] <ActionPa1snip> sabgenton: what does the text say please
[11:23] <sabgenton> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l
[11:24] <ActionPa1snip> sabgenton: seems to be in bsdmainutils package
[11:24] <deployment> any routing wizards in here today?
[11:24] <ActionPa1snip> sabgenton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5924900
[11:24] <ActionPa1snip> deployment: try in ##networking
[11:25] <sabgenton> thanks
[11:25] <sabgenton> so much for the chanel bot's help
[11:26] <ActionPa1snip> sabgenton: she is limited but very useful
[11:26] <sabgenton> yeah looks useful anyway
[11:26] <occ> i just bought a netbook with 1000x600 resoluition, but the ubuntu live cd only shows 800x600 and no other option in display settings...... i have tried ubuntu on several other laptops and pcs and this is the first time it gets the native resolution wrong
[11:27] <Aaruni> bye
[11:27] <occ> is there an easy way to fix this?
[11:27]  * sabgenton is happy haz hexdump
[11:27] <ActionPa1snip> occ: what video chip does it use?
[11:28] <occ> action, not sure... bit it is an asus with intel hardware
[11:28] <ActionPa1snip> occ: run:  sudo lshw -C display     what GPU are you using?
[11:29] <occ> that command returned: PCI (sysfs)
[11:29] <occ> after some other text which flicked too fast to see
[11:30] <occ> oh wait more came up...
[11:30] <kyletorpey> this may be a dumb question but is it possible to run a mail server on ubuntu on my desktop? or would i need a server for that?
[11:30] <occ> Atom Processor d2xxx/n2xxx integrated graphics controller
[11:30] <flipper88_fl> occ:  tr an lsoci |grep vga
[11:30] <ActionPa1snip> occ: yes, your PCI bus is slow
[11:30] <ActionPa1snip> occ: what GPU is it?
[11:31] <Ben64> kyletorpey: "can" and "should" are two different things. keep in mind many ISPs block mail servers
[11:31] <ActionPa1snip> occ: oh boy those are always hell
[11:31] <occ> i dont know what gpu
[11:31] <occ> ok
[11:31] <ActionPa1snip> occ: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:31] <kyletorpey> ben64 did not know ISPs block those
[11:31] <kyletorpey> ben64 i guess my real question would be. would i still be able to get mail if my desktop was off?
[11:31] <flipper88_fl> Comcast is pretty leinant withn that kin=d of thing
[11:31] <japanized> hello
[11:32] <blazemore> kyletorpey: no you wouldn't
[11:32] <occ> cat /etc/issue, returns: ubuntu 12.04.2 lts  \n \1
[11:32] <Ben64> kyletorpey: well, if the mail server isn't running how could you
[11:32] <japanized> any JAVA programmer is here?
[11:32] <kyletorpey> ben64 i mean would the mail eventually get to me once i turned my desktop on
[11:32] <kyletorpey> ben64 does it hang in limbo if the server is offline or does it just fail i guess
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> occ: http://daily.siebler.eu/2012/06/ubuntu-12-04-driver-for-intel-cedarview-atom-n2000-und-d2000-serie/    may help
[11:33] <Ben64> kyletorpey: usually retries for a while
[11:33] <kyletorpey> ben64 how long is a while
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> occ: you can use gedit instead of vi if you want, bit easier
[11:34] <Ben64> kyletorpey: the real answer to your question is no, get a real server
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> occ: you will need gksudo instead of sudo for the commands you use gedit with
[11:34] <kyletorpey> ben64 haha ok thank you for cutting to the point
[11:34] <occ> looks like a lot of shit i have to configure
[11:34] <occ> maybe ill just move back to windows
[11:36] <japanized> hi
[11:36] <ActionPa1snip> occ: your choice
[11:36] <cfhowlett> japanized, greetings
[11:36] <ActionPa1snip> occ: its step by step, not hard at all
[11:37]  * cfhowlett ... one of the 10 people you meet on a linux channel is  "Screw this!  I'm moving back to Winders!"
[11:37] <ActionPa1snip> its funny how people feel the need to broadcast the fact as well
[11:38] <gordonjcp> do they still make Windows?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> ActionPa1snip,  always reminds me of SouthPark "Screw you guys, I'm going home."
[11:38] <ActionPa1snip> gordonjcp: not XP :)
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  for those 1/10 people
[11:38] <gordonjcp> I'm surprised it's hung on this long, tbh
[11:38] <gordonjcp> mind you I still run into MSDOS in production stuff from time to time
[11:39] <gordonjcp> VAXen too
[11:43] <occ> how long are the ubuntu forums going to be down for
[11:43] <flipper88_fl> Try a post to linuxquestions.org occ
[11:44] <ActionPa1snip> occ: I'd ask in #ubuntuforums
[11:45] <occ> well the fix for my issue involves "compiling a kernel with experimental drivers" or something... but the page for it is on ubuntu forums which is down
[11:45] <funkt> Hi there I am using 12.04 and I have lost my date weather applet shutdown all from the right hand side of the top panel would anyone know how I can restore this?
[11:46] <ffio> is their a guide or something to understand how upstart works ?
[11:47] <blazemore> !upstart | ffio
[11:47] <ffio> blazemore: :)
[11:47] <ActionPa1snip> funkt: try pressing ALT+F2 and run: unity --reset
[11:47] <ActionPa1snip> funkt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168171/no-launcher-or-system-tray
[11:47] <ActionPa1snip> funkt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136733/some-system-tray-icons-invisible-in-gnome-classic-12-04
[11:49] <funkt> that doesnt seem to work I am using gnome desktop?
[11:49] <funkt> any ideas?
[11:51] <Tankado> Hello, trying to use oprofile and i need a vmlinux file for my Ubuntu (Linux user 3.5.0-30-generic )  12.4 LTS anyone know how can i get one>? i find too many results in google and i was wondering if someone knows more specific answer, thanks
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> funkt: if you log off and on is it ok?
[11:52] <Louwrens> Hello everybody!
[11:53] <Louwrens> I got a easy question (I think)
[11:53] <Brynjolf> What happened to pip in apt-get?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !details|Louwrens,
[11:53] <ActionPa1snip> !info pip
[11:54] <funkt> Hi there no I have tried that too
[11:54] <funkt> still nothing :(
[11:55] <FleaFlicker> did you install the weather applet from the gnome web site?
[11:55] <Louwrens> I installed the R-base ubuntu package from http://cran.xl-mirror.nl/bin/linux/ubuntu/precise/ and I want to know how it was configured,
[11:57] <funkt> Hi there does anyone know what the shutdown date time right hand corner is called?
[11:58] <funkt> I can then try and look into google to try and reset it somehow
[11:58] <funkt> is it launcher??
[12:07] <Tantor> Does someone know how I can change the owner of a node in MAAS?
[12:07] <Tankado> Hello, trying to use oprofile and i need a vmlinux file for my Ubuntu (Linux user 3.5.0-30-generic )  12.4 LTS anyone know how can i get one>? i find too many results in google and i was wondering if someone knows more specific answer, thanks
[12:10] <flipper88_fl> Are the xubunbtu/ubuntu forums open to the public as of yet?
[12:10] <blazemore> flipper88_fl: What does it say on ubuntuforums.com
[12:11] <blazemore> flipper88_fl: For me it says "Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance" - do you need that clarified for you?
[12:11] <flipper88_fl> Still down for private testing by the staffers blazemore
[12:11] <blazemore> flipper88_fl: I thnk you've answered your own question
[12:11] <babinlonston> Did this one is right cronjob entry ?
[12:11] <babinlonston> */1 * * * *     root    /bin/bash -l -c 'backup perform -t canvas_file_store_backups --config-file /home/sysadmin/Backup/config.rb --data-path /home/sysadmin/Backup/data/'
[12:11] <babinlonston> im using cronjob for Root , Did this one is the proper entry to get automated for every minute ?
[12:12] <jrib> babinlonston: */1 is redundant
[12:12] <flipper88_fl> No wounder this channel has become  so popular
[12:13] <babinlonston> then for hourly backup how can i setup and is this one is right ? , cos now im not getting backup from this entry for every hour or every minute
[12:14] <japanized> hi
[12:14] <babinlonston> http://pastebin.com/fqw2FK3y
[12:14] <jrib> babinlonston: */1 is the same as just *
[12:14] <japanized> i tried to upgrade Ubuntu
[12:14] <japanized> but i got the error message. I cannot solve.
[12:14] <japanized> anybody can help me?
[12:14] <jrib> babinlonston: also, you might need to give the full path to "backup"
[12:15] <blazemore> !details | japanized
[12:15] <jrib> japanized: don't use enter to break up your messages and pastebin the error.  I have to leave, but someone else can help
[12:15] <japanized> Third party sources disabled
[12:15] <japanized> what is that?
[12:15] <babinlonston> ya this is the full path
[12:16] <blazemore> japanized: That's not an error, it means that additonal repositories you added will be disabled for the upgrade to ensure compatiblty
[12:16] <japanized> Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager.
[12:16] <japanized> this is full error message
[12:17] <skramer__> Hi everybody. I got a problem with my printer, SAMSUNG ML-1640 connected via USB. Whenever I turn on the PC, the printer is being deactivated. I always got to go to System Settings->Printer and activate it, otherwise the jobs remain in queue.
[12:17] <GothPaw> anyone able to point me to some good documents on setting up/using my multi-function wifi printer as a scanner (Printer Portion works fine)/ Many Thanks
[12:18] <skramer__> How do I make the printer being active when the PC is turned on?
[12:18] <blazemore> !scanner | GothPaw
[12:18] <GothPaw> Thanks :)
[12:21] <adac> In /etc/hosts I'm adding the following: "127.0.0.1       host.example.com" but when I try to resolve the IP of 'host.example.com' it is not 127.0.0.1
[12:21] <Tantor> Does someone know how I can change the owner of a node in MAAS? I have allocated all my nodes, however juju is now complaining: Unexpected Error interacting with provider: 409 CONFLICT. That seems to mean that there are no nodes available and that I shouldn't have allocated some nodes to a user, so how can I undo that?
[12:22] <werner_> Hi anyone. I have a problem with WEBGui and Apache2. I got in /var/log/apport.logthe following error mesage: called for pid 9175, signal 11 - is_closing_session(): no DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in environment
[12:23] <Nosophorus> i'm not being able to upgrade my system and every time i try to do that, it offers me a partial upgrade
[12:23] <Nosophorus> how can i solve that?
[12:24] <mumpitzel> Nosophorus: what is the output of apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:25] <adac> hm it seems that 'ping' does correctly resolve the hostname. 'host' command however does not.
[12:25] <inerkick> hi i am facing issue installing and setting virtualenvs http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925065/
[12:25] <inerkick> kindly help
[12:26] <Nosophorus> mumpitzel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925070/
[12:26] <Nosophorus> mumpitzel: when i go to Software Channels and uncheck all PPAs, the system does upgrade
[12:27] <mumpitzel> Nosophorus: LC_ALL=C apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:27] <blazemore> You have a typo in your .bashrc file inerkick
[12:27] <blazemore> inerkick: change "echpo" to "echo"
[12:27] <Nosophorus> mumpitzel: i'm upgrading my system right now, but in order to do that, i have to uncheck all PPAs in Software Channels
[12:28] <Nosophorus> mumpitzel: there is another problem too
[12:28] <inerkick> no I haven't used echo though blazemore
[12:28] <Nosophorus> mumpitzel: some PPAs are not upgrading at all
[12:28] <mumpitzel> Nosophorus: I don't understand poruguese or whatever it is
[12:28] <blazemore> inerkick: Please put your .bashrc file on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:28] <mumpitzel> so I asked you to provide english output
[12:29] <Nosophorus> mumpitzel: no problem. have you read my msgs above?
[12:29] <inerkick> oops sorry thanks blazemore
[12:29] <inerkick> You are right
[12:29] <mumpitzel> Nosophorus: have you read what i wrote?
[12:29] <blazemore> I know I was right, inerkick , the error message was very clear :)
[12:29] <inerkick> :) thanks blazemore
[12:30] <Nosophorus> mumpitzel: yes, i can't do " LC_ALL=C apt-get dist-upgrade" because, right now, i'm upgrading my system. but, in order to do this, i have to uncheck all PPAs in Software Channels
[12:30] <inerkick> but i can't install virtualenvwrapper , could you help me blazemore
[12:31] <nzoz> hello, when i copy text from an application (kubuntu), and i close the application, i lose the content of the clipboard; is that normal, and is there a fix? thanks
[12:31] <mumpitzel> I cannot help with stuff I can't see or understand. come back when you can describe the problem and follow the instructions needed to get important information
[12:31] <GothPaw> blazemore: thanks again for the link to the docs. scanner up and running in less than 10 min; PERFECT!
[12:31] <inerkick> sudo pip install virtualenvwrapper isn't working blazemore
[12:33] <nebras01> Hi
[12:33] <nebras01> need support
[12:34] <Pici> inerkick: Why not? What happens instead of the expected?
[12:34] <inerkick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925110/ not able to install virutalwrapper, kindly help
[12:34] <inerkick> Pici,
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:34] <Pici> inerkick: That means its already installed.
[12:35] <inerkick> yes, Pici . But when I try for mkvirtualenv myfirstenv that doesn't show up the virtualwrapper
[12:35] <nebras01> has jst installed ubuntu twice , 12.04  on HP Envy 6 Dual boot with Windows 7.  Computer opens automatically windows 7 , and boot-repair-disk didn't work and asked me to enter command lines that didn't work
[12:35] <Nosophorus> mumpitzel: it's in english now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925113/
[12:36] <inerkick> I'm following this, http://www.rosslaird.com/blog/first-steps-with-mezzanine/ and I wasn't able to get virtualwrapper along side virtualenv
[12:36] <Pici> inerkick: did you add those lines to your .bashrc?
[12:37] <inerkick> yes
[12:37] <inerkick> Pici,
[12:37] <nebras01> I have just installed ubuntu twice , 12.04  on HP Envy 6 Dual boot with Windows 7.  Computer opens automatically windows 7 , and boot-repair-disk didn't work and asked me to enter command lines that didn't work
[12:37] <mercer> hi
[12:38] <mumpitzel> nebras01: are you using ubuntu right now?
[12:38] <Pici> inerkick: can you pastebin your .bashrc file please?
[12:39] <nebras01> yes , on a liveUSB
[12:39] <mumpitzel> nebras01: are you using UEFI?
[12:39] <mercer> no
[12:39] <nebras01> yes
[12:39] <mumpitzel> nebras01: mount your ubuntu partition if it's not already. tell us where it is mounted when done
[12:40] <inerkick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925123/ check this Pici
[12:40] <nebras01> sda5
[12:40] <blazemore> np GothPaw
[12:40] <mumpitzel> nebras01: it is not mounted on sda5
[12:41] <Pici> inerkick: what does echo $WORKON_HOME say?
[12:41] <nebras01> mumpitzel: what do you mean ? what command should I enter ? (I am a total noob btw)
[12:42] <mumpitzel> nebras01: the mountpoint where your ubuntu installation is mounted
[12:43] <jeeva> i am not able too connect to the router why
[12:43] <MattHall> test
[12:43] <mumpitzel> jeeva: we cannot know unless you think we are psychic
[12:44] <blazemore> !details | jeeva
[12:45] <nebras01> mumpitzel : /dev/sda5 ; if I understood what you meant
[12:50] <babueverest> Meta-1
[12:51] <babueverest> part
[12:51] <Catbuntu> I think you meant /part
[12:51] <ffio> i have installed ubuntu-builder but when i am opening it, it doesnt start, even when i am starting it from terminal it doesn't displays any errors.
[12:51] <blazemore> How did you install it, ffio ?
[12:51] <ffio> blazemore: yeah installed it
[12:52] <ffio> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-builder
[12:52] <blazemore> ffio: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[12:52] <ffio> even icon is getting displayed uunder applications.
[12:52] <ffio> 13.04
[12:53] <blazemore> !info ubuntu-builder
[12:53] <blazemore> ffio: Is it from a PPA?
[12:53] <ffio> yes from ppa
[12:54] <blazemore> Ah OK, that's what I meant by how did you install it. Could you link the PPA you used?
[12:54] <ffio> on which version it's available in software center ?
[12:54] <mumpitzel> nebras01: /dev files are device files, not mountpoints /mnt is a mountpoint, / is a mountpoint
[12:54] <ffio> LTS ?
[12:54] <nebras01> norma;y the mount point is  /
[12:55] <ffio> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:f-muriana/ubuntu-builder
[12:55] <jeeva> i am trying to do diskless boot through network but i am not able to connect to the router in ubuntu 12.04
[12:55] <PokerFace> Hi all, i use Smuxi irc client but notifications are not working, no pop-up, no messaging indicator just nothing
[12:57] <blazemore> Are you following a guide, jeeva ?
[12:58] <blazemore> !netboot | jeeva
[12:58] <babueverest> why is newer version of ubuntu slow?
[12:58] <nebras01> mumpitzel : sorry, now I understand. it should be  /media/b90afd74-118a-4951-bcf1-69a6ce3b1274
[12:58] <blazemore> That's a loaded question babueverest - I don't think it is
[12:58] <mumpitzel> nebras01: awful mountpoint. almost impossible to write out
[12:59] <blazemore> ffio: try sudo ubuntu-builder
[12:59] <groundzero> hi there
[12:59] <blazemore> ffio: although it works for me - there's no output at all when yu run it from command line?
[13:00] <groundzero> can anyone help me out?
[13:00] <blazemore> !anyone | groundzero
[13:00] <groundzero> ok
[13:01] <nebras01> well I installed everything automatically , thus I don't know what to do. Any sollutions ? I've run boot-repaor and it asked me to write sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sda5" dpkg--configure-a but it didn't work (no such file or directory)
[13:01] <ffio> blazemore: tried sudo too but no use..
[13:02] <ffio> no output when i am typing ubuntu-builder on terminal
[13:02] <mumpitzel> nebras01: give the exact output for the command you wrote
[13:02] <blazemore> ffio: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-builder
[13:02] <groundzero> How can I dictate and enable wifi on compaq presario cq60 running ubuntu 12.04?
[13:03] <ffio> blazemore: ok trying it out
[13:03] <blazemore> !wifi | groundzero
[13:03] <mumpitzel> groundzero: lspci -nn   so we know what wlan chip it is
[13:03] <groundzero> I have tried things like rfkill
[13:04] <nebras01> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/boot-sav/sda5: No such file or directory
[13:04] <groundzero> I got that link, thanks
[13:04] <babueverest> me
[13:04]  * babueverest 
[13:06] <usr13> nebras01: is "/mnt/boot-sav/sda5" correct?
[13:06] <inerkick> i didn't get Pici
[13:06] <usr13> nebras01: mount   #Will tell the story.
[13:06] <groundzero> I have also run the comman lspci -nn but no dictate
[13:07] <blazemore> groundzero: What do you mean by "dictate" in the context of wireless?
[13:07] <nebras01> well , I know for sure that's what was written in the boot-repair GUI. as for my partition , I don't know how to see if it's correct or not
[13:07] <mumpitze1> groundzero: dictate? lspci will output text. pastebin this text
[13:08] <blazemore> groundzero: Please paste the results of running the command "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com, and put the resulting link in channel
[13:08] <mumpitze1> nebras01: even the command you gave that boot-repair told you to run was wrong. I very much doubt anything you wrote about is correct. which is why I wanted the actual command you wrote and its FULL output
[13:08] <groundzero> here is the only relating to Ethernet. 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP77 Ethernet [10de:0760] (rev a2)
[13:08] <blazemore> groundzero: Please paste the results of running the command "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com, and put the resulting link in channel
[13:08] <groundzero> ok
[13:08] <theahindle> Howdy seem to be getting 'no space left on device' but I have lots of space, and my inodes are barely used also - any ideas?
[13:09] <blazemore> theahindle:  Please paste the results of running the command "df -h" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com, and put the resulting link in channel
[13:10] <nebras01> mumpitzel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925205/ this has everything
[13:10] <nebras01> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925205/ this is the mount result
[13:11] <mumpitze1> nebras01: you didn't write the command properly. dpkg--configure-a is NOT a valid command and you never got this from any ubuntu script
[13:11] <groundzero> There is nothing relating wireless ethernet
[13:12] <blazemore> groundzero: Well I wouldn't know because I haven't seen the link yet
[13:12] <groundzero> There is nothing relating to wireless Ethernet
[13:12] <mumpitze1> nebras01: sudo chroot /media/b90afd74-118a-4951-bcf1-69a6ce3b1274  and then "dpkg --configure -a"  now how spaces are IMPORTANT
[13:12] <mumpitze1> groundzero: come back when you can paste the full output into a pastebin as you've been told repeatedly
[13:12] <groundzero> I have already posted it
[13:12] <mumpitze1> groundzero: tell us the URL where you did that please
[13:13] <usr13> nebras01: From  (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925205/ ), we see that the mount point is /media/b90afd74-118a-4951-bcf1-69a6ce3b1274 (not /mnt/boot-sav/sda5)
[13:13] <groundzero> Am really a new guy here
[13:14] <blazemore> groundzero: Just copy and paste the result of running "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com - then copy and paste the URL back here
[13:14] <mumpitze1> groundzero: you put your output into paste.ubuntu.ncom and got a url like "paste.ubuntu.com/1234557". this URL we need with the long number at the end
[13:14] <usr13> groundzero: iwconfig    #What does that say?
[13:15] <groundzero> ok, let complete the registration there. then I will get back to you. thanks
[13:15] <blazemore> you do not need to register there groundzero
[13:15] <theahindle> I actually think the 'no space left on device' is just python not being able to write into /tmp/ - I must have made it wrong
[13:15] <usr13> lspci | pastebinit   #And send resulting URL
[13:15] <blazemore> groundzero: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:16] <mumpitze1> blazemore: it needs a long number at the end or it's worthless
[13:16] <blazemore> what mumpitze1 ?
[13:16] <blazemore> I think you've got the wrong end of the stick
[13:16] <mumpitze1> blazemore: sorry. misread :)
[13:16] <usr13> groundzero: What are you registering for?
[13:17] <mumpitze1> usr13: if you ever tell people to use lspci, always tell them to run "lspci -nn". otherwise it's almost worthless
[13:17] <willybilly0101> All the audio cd's I write with k3b are bad, either do not work, either have a radio-like sound on the backgroud (with sound distorted). I convert flac to wav, on my computer they sound perfect (the wav's). any ideea? last log, http://codepad.org/h4j3RXSb
[13:17] <willybilly0101> oops
[13:17] <usr13> mumpitze1: Ok
[13:17] <willybilly0101> wrong chan
[13:17] <willybilly0101> but if anyone can help fine anyway :)
[13:17] <nebras01> mumpitzel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925226/ this is the result now
[13:18] <blazemore> willybilly0101: Try burning at the slowest speed you can, and see if you get the same problem
[13:18] <groundzero> sorry. I cant login to https://login.launchpad.net/
[13:18] <mumpitze1> nebras01: so you are using uefi after all
[13:19] <usr13> nebras01: You don't have to keep using the chroot command, once is enough.
[13:19] <mumpitze1> groundzero: there is no need to log in to anything. paste.ubuntu.com doesn't need any login
[13:19] <mumpitze1> usr13: not if he doesn't press enter after the chroot command
[13:19] <nebras01> mumpitzel : I said yes when you asked me :)
[13:19] <willybilly0101> blazemore, thanks, I will
[13:19] <usr13> mumpitze1: Oh yea, maybe he didn't do it the first time?
[13:20] <groundzero> ok
[13:21] <usr13> mumpitze1: I'm not understanding those commands run-together like that.
[13:22] <usr13> mumpitze1: If you do it that way, does it mean that chroot only works for the one command?
[13:22] <groundzero> ok. After pasting, am I to type the URL here.
[13:22] <blazemore> groundzero: Yes please so we can see what you have pasted
[13:23] <groundzero> ok. Here is ithttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5925243/
[13:23] <groundzero> sorry. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925243/
[13:24] <groundzero> I like I told you, there is no wireless info in the result
[13:24] <mumpitze1> usr13: of course. what else?
[13:24] <blazemore> OK thanks groundzero can you do the same for "lsusb"
[13:24] <groundzero> ok
[13:26] <nebras01> mumpitzel : So what should I do now ?
[13:26] <apple_> hi
[13:26] <groundzero> Hi, Here is the result link. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925263/
[13:26] <usr13> mumpitze1: I didn't know that.  Thanks.  (Just never did it that way.)
[13:26] <apple_> can any body help me
[13:27] <blazemore> !anybody | apple_
[13:27] <jemark> please ask your question...
[13:27] <groundzero> Guy, this is internal wifi chip
[13:28] <mumpitze1> nebras01: I dunno about UEFI booting due to lack of experience. which is why I asked you this at the beginning
[13:28] <groundzero> It is not external or usb
[13:28] <blazemore> groundzero: One more time for "lshw -C network"
[13:28] <apple_> i m getting prblm in my wifi .. after updating the kernel 3.10
[13:28] <groundzero> ok, thanks
[13:28] <apple_> it dosnt show my wifi interface
[13:28] <mumpitze1> groundzero: the only wireless anything you have is a 3G dongle. no wlan
[13:28] <adamk> groundzero: It is not unusual for internal wifi to be USB.  However, no wifi chipset is showing up, USB or PCI.
[13:28] <mumpitze1> blazemore: why would it show there if it's not on the usb or pci bus?
[13:29] <blazemore> mumpitze1: I might have missed it
[13:29] <adamk> groundzero: Does the wifi work in any other operating system?
[13:29] <nebras01> usr13 : any Idea ??
[13:31] <groundzero> yes, on window$
[13:31] <apple_> heloo any suggestion for wifi prblm aftr updating the kernel with 3.10
[13:31] <TauNeutrino> Linux From Scratch vs. Ubuntu
[13:31] <TauNeutrino> GO !
[13:31] <blazemore> !best | TauNeutrino
[13:31] <groundzero> Here is link of the last command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5925277/
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> TauNeutrino: that is offtopic here, this is support
[13:31] <usr13> nebras01: What are you trying to do?  (What problem are you trying to solve?
[13:32] <TauNeutrino> wtf??
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> TauNeutrino: try in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[13:32] <TauNeutrino> club-ubuntu??
[13:32] <TauNeutrino> free drinks??
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> TauNeutrino: yes
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> TauNeutrino: why not
[13:32] <TauNeutrino> lol
[13:33] <TauNeutrino> hm
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> TauNeutrino: this channel is for people with issues, not idle discussion about pros and cons of certain distros
[13:33] <varunendra> groundzero, is the system dual booting with windows 8?
[13:33] <TauNeutrino> is there a channel for that?
[13:33] <AlHafoudh> hi
[13:33] <blazemore> TauNeutrino: Try #reddit-sysadmin they will argue for you
[13:33] <philinux> TauNeutrino: #ubuntuforums is one
[13:33] <TauNeutrino> like one channel which is dedicated to discuss what distro is the best ^^
[13:33] <AlHafoudh> how should I configure both ipv4 and ipv6 address (static) on bridge interface br0 for example?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> TauNeutrino: #ubuntu-offtopic you can have a nater about anything you want
[13:33] <groundzero> no window$ vi$ta
[13:34] <TauNeutrino> well, good
[13:34] <adamk> groundzero: What does the wirless device show up as in Windows?  (ie. how is it identified in Device Manager?)
[13:34] <TauNeutrino> cu :)
[13:34] <groundzero> but the non sense just crashed after updating
[13:34] <inerkick> want to install go programming
[13:34] <inerkick> kindly help
[13:34] <inerkick> on my ubuntu 12.10
[13:35] <blazemore> inerkick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Go
[13:35] <groundzero> Window$ crashed after updating
[13:35] <AlHafoudh> if I configure it like this: https://gist.github.com/alhafoudh/6104335 only IPv6 connection is working
[13:35] <adamk> groundzero: So we have no way of knowing if the wifi hardware is even working at the present moment...
[13:36] <blazemore> groundzero: Is there a hardware switch for your wifi which could be disabling it?
[13:36] <usr13> groundzero: MS Windows crashed after doing system updates to it?
[13:36] <usr13> blazemore: Even if the hardware switch were off, the device would still show up in the output of lspci
[13:36] <varunendra> groundzero, your wireless card is not being even detected by the OS. Either it is fried, or loose connect, or some static firmware issue while it was on Windows. Try resetting your BIOS.
[13:36] <groundzero> I tried to repair but recovery DVD told me that its going to restore the laptop to default(pre-installed)  window$ system
[13:37] <nebras01> usr13 : I am trying to achieve Dual Boot between Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS and Windows 7 on a 64 UEFI Computer (Hp Envy 6). I have installed ubutnu alongside wndows in the installer but I can't boot , to my knowledge it's a problem with GRUB.
[13:37] <blazemore> groundzero: Your s key is broken
[13:37] <groundzero> That means I will loss Ubuntu and Opensuse
[13:37] <groundzero> which key please
[13:37] <blazemore> groundzero: Does it work in opensuse?
[13:37] <adamk> groundzero: Is the wifi identified and usable in opensuse?
[13:38] <groundzero> no, not at all
[13:38] <varunendra> groundzero, you are using "$" in windows... not appreciated here, that's what blazemore meant by "broken"
[13:38] <adamk> groundzero: Honestly, we have no reason to believe the hardware is fine, and every reason to believe that it's broken.
[13:38] <usr13> groundzero: Is this a laptop?
[13:38] <groundzero> ok, sorry
[13:39] <groundzero> But I don like that os
[13:39] <groundzero> yes
[13:39] <usr13> groundzero: And "Windows" is not enough, needs to be XP or Win8 or Win7 or Vista or....
[13:39] <varunendra> groundzero, just to make sure it is still working, you can backup your current installations using something like clonezilla, then restore windows and check if the wifi still works.
[13:39] <groundzero> hp compaq presario cq60-206us
[13:40] <groundzero> Honestly, I worked with the pre-installed vista os
[13:40] <varunendra> groundzero, every device works before it gets fried ;)
[13:40] <Johnny_Linux> groundzero,  i had one of those, make sure its turned on in bios
[13:40] <usr13> groundzero: varunendra  If we do not see anything about it in the output of lspci, it is more-than-likely dead.
[13:41] <groundzero> ok, bios
[13:41] <usr13> groundzero: You might pull the card out and put it back in again.
[13:42] <groundzero> You, I have talked of this but that means I will shutdown for bios
[13:42] <usr13> groundzero: (But shut down first.)
[13:42] <varunendra> usr13, I have witnessed at least one thread in the forums, where the user's internal (usb) card showed up on live cd, but not in the installed one. I could never figure out why or how.. :/
[13:42] <randomaussie> test
[13:42] <groundzero> The card is built-in
[13:42] <Johnny_Linux> exactly
[13:42] <nebras01> usr13 : My computer is overheating. can you pease help me or I need to reboot to windows
[13:42] <usr13> varunendra: I've never seen that happen.
[13:43] <usr13> nebras01: I dont know the answer to your question.  Maybe someone else does.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> nebras01: does the system have a make and model?
[13:44] <varunendra> usr13, neither did I, but the card worked fine with one driver, and not with the other one, not even visible in either lsusb or lshw..
[13:44] <nebras01> ActionParsnip : I don't think I understand , But it's an HP ENVY 6 with Windows 7
[13:44] <groundzero> If I shutdown, I will loss you guys but no problem I have no other choice
[13:44] <usr13> varunendra: Yea, me neither. I dono.
[13:44] <blazemore> groundzero: You can come back again
[13:45] <groundzero> good bye but I will be back after checking the bios. Thanks a lot
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> nebras01: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see an Nvidia GPU and an Intel GPU?
[13:50] <grzesag> Hi, I would like to use ssl-cert-check with server that runs multiple SSL domains? Is it possible? thanks for your help
[13:54] <SuperBawlz> Hey, I am trying to set up a PPTP client connection into a site on my Ubuntu. Where do I start?
[13:54] <ffio> blazemore: still ubuntu-builder is not working
[13:54] <zipzap> hello
[13:55] <zipzap> il y a des francais ici ?
[13:55] <ffio> blazemore: which ubuntu version are you using ?
[13:55] <blazemore> ffio: Raring
[13:55] <blazemore> !fr | zipzap
[13:55] <zipzap> !fr
[13:56] <zipzap> ok tx
[13:56] <ffio> is it possible that i can have firefox as well as tor browser installed side by side ?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> ffio: sure
[13:56] <Johnny_Linux> yes
[13:56] <ffio> great :)
[13:57] <flipper88_fl> IMHO Chrome direct from google is the best darn browser on the market
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> flipper88_fl: I use it because I'm lazy as it comes with flash :)
[13:58] <ffio> is their a guide or something to make my ubuntu installation secure ?
[13:59] <usr13> SuperLag: you mean pppoe?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ffio: using Tor doesn't add security
[13:59] <usr13> !pppoe | SuperLag
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ffio: look into server hardening
[13:59] <ffio> ActionParsnip: ok sir :)
[14:00] <ffio> ActionParsnip: is their ubuntu documentation on that ?
[14:00] <ffio> yeah got it :)
[14:01] <LongCatTH> how I can disable hotkey 'alt' to not trigger that annoy tab? ()
[14:01] <genii> ffio: There's a pretty decent guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security#Security_Tools
[14:02] <usr13> SuperLag: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml
[14:03] <usr13> SuperLag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[14:03] <usr13> LongCatTH: "tab"?
[14:04] <joshu> if I have xfreerdp on my path be default, e.g. /usr/bin/xfreerdp and I have another newer version in /top/freerdp/bin/xfreerdp. Why when I'm in the latter directory and I do ./xfreerdp do I execute the older version in /usr/bin ?
[14:04] <LongCatTH> I'm not sure what it is , if you using Unity then press 'alt'
[14:04] <ffio> thanks genii :)
[14:05] <Tantor> Anyone here with experience with juju?
[14:05] <Tantor> I can get charms, but when I do juju --deploy it keeps bugging me with an SSH key error
[14:05] <IdleOne> Tantor: #juju is probably a better place to ask
[14:06] <usr13> LongCatTH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts
[14:06] <Tantor> Thanks
[14:06] <IdleOne> sure thing
[14:06] <usr13> !shortcut | LoganCloud
[14:06] <usr13> !shortcut | LongCatTH
[14:07] <OerHeks> LongCatTH, http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[14:07] <LongCatTH> yeah! that's right thanks you
[14:07] <OerHeks> No hud, no fun :-(
[14:08] <joshu> I don't understand how being in a directory and executing the executable in that directory results in a different exec being run?!
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> joshu: if there is a binary of the same name and you use ./name  then it will launch that binary and not the one in $PATH
[14:10] <LongCatTH> I'm using the 'alt'+'shift' keys to changes keyboard layout, I often accidentally  push that hud up :/
[14:11] <joshu> ActionParsnip I've tried that but it for some reason is giving me the version of the older binary
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> joshu: try referencing the binary absolutey, may help
[14:12] <NuSuey> oh hell, whats the difference between the "AMD Catalyst™ Proprietary Display Driver" and the "AMD Catalyst™ OpenGL Driver" ?
[14:12] <MickS> joshu: are you sure about the version of the local copy? You can try to move the old one (/usr/bin) out of the way temporarily for test and see what executing the new local one gives you.
[14:13] <joshu> ActionParsnip MickS going to test both suggestions now
[14:15] <ffio> is that true that after every new version of ubuntu is released when we upgrade there are lot's of breakages ?
[14:15] <ffio> if i am updating form ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10 ?
[14:16] <ffio> i would be running services like mysql and running web-servers..
[14:16] <Pici> ffio: no.
[14:16] <varunendra> ffio, not if you are using only default recommended packages.
[14:16] <ffio> varunendra: where can i know about those default recommended packages ?
[14:17] <Pici> ffio: If you're using the packages in our repositories, you shouldn't have problems.
[14:17] <ffio> Pici: so i can easily migrate to the newer version without much of a prob ?
[14:17] <ffio> Pici: ok :)
[14:17] <ffio> definitely i would be using all the packages from ubuntu repos.
[14:17] <varunendra> ffio, breakage (possibly) occurs only if you are using third party packages (PPAs), or proprietary drivers.
[14:18] <ffio> varunendra: ok :)
[14:20] <Jhg> hello
[14:22] <JoeSomebody> hi, it's really busy in ##linux, you guys are up on multimedia if anyone is so ... for basic user mm support, how many gstreamer does one put on sensibly? is most of them too many? the idea of "too many" affect windows a lot more i am sure, is there a "too many codecs" in linux even? :)
[14:24] <k1l> JoeSomebody: on ubuntu: install those codecs you need.
[14:24] <talexb> I'm trying to set up the automounter to take care of mounting my NFS share. It's not mounting. Are there logs somewhere that I can look at so that I can understand what's going on?
[14:25] <JoeSomebody> i guess i am wondering why there so many, i probably wont really understand the answer anyway LOL
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> talexb: if you add a line in /etc/fstab you can define the mount, you can add a line in /etc/rc.local to make it mount as fstab is processed before the network comes up
[14:26] <jemark> talexb: /var/log/messages
[14:27] <talexb> ActionParsnip, Hmm .. OK, I could try that route instead.
[14:27] <talexb> jemark, Odd .. /var/log/messages doesn't exist.
[14:28] <SuperLag> usr13: say what?
[14:29] <n80> hi, i've got a weird bug related to ubuntu 13.04/skype/microsoft lifecam hd-5000. with the camera plugged in any notification sound is delayed a few seconds after the popup is shown, unplugged it's right as the popup is shown.
[14:29] <gordonjcp> JoeSomebody: just install the lot
[14:29] <SuperLag> usr13: you must have had me confused with someone else
[14:29] <n80> wish i could just not use skype(work related)
[14:30] <n80> found one thing on google mentioning something similar and it didn't really have a solution
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> n80: do you see yourself in cheese?
[14:36] <n80> ActionParsnip: the camera works fine, microphone fine. only issue is the delay in notification/call sounds in skype.
[14:37] <n80> ActionParsnip: also, the light on the camera will blink 3-4 times prior while this delay is happening
[14:45] <joshu> ActionParsnip took a while to find out what I was doing wrong. It was the right way to run the binary, but the binary was not the one I should have copied from another system and thus the version happened to be the same as the one on the user path. Thanks
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> n80: are there any bugs reported?
[14:51] <n80> ActionParsnip: no, not that i could find
[14:54] <llrealmanll> i wanna to install version 5:0.7.15-dmo1.this is my repositories:http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2737820
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> n80: i suggest you report a new bug
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> llrealmanll: mixing debian debs with ubuntu is not advised or supported and you will get a big mess
[14:58] <n80> ActionParsnip: alright, should i find some more information or are the versions and camera model sufficient in the bug report? where do i report the bug?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> n80: the bug guys will ask for the info as needed :)
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> n80: i suggest you run:  ubuntu-bug skype   to start the process
[15:00] <n80> i get "Package skype does not exist" when running that
[15:00] <n80> ActionParsnip: sorry for being a noob :/
[15:01] <joshu> I can scan if I'm superuser and according to Brother's documentation by install this sudo dpkg -i --force-all brother-udev-rule-type1-1.0.0-1.all.deb I can scan as a normal user. However I installed, but I still need to be sudo for scanning to work. I found this https://github.com/afterdesign/nas-project#update-udev and uncommented those lines, but still not working.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> n80: try:   ubuntu-bug cheese    then
[15:03] <joshu> i don't know if there's a log file that shows what's wrong. I tried dmesg and syslog but can't see anything
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> joshu: I've seen this, gimme a sec
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> joshu: http://superuser.com/questions/298298/scanning-only-works-under-sudo-ubuntu
[15:04] <xtal19> update-rc.d -f ssh defaults 20 90
[15:04] <xtal19> what are the numbers pleas ?
[15:04] <xtal19> *please ?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> joshu: try adding your user to the saned group
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> xtal19: man update-rc.d
[15:10] <h22> Guys, what do I do after editing the /etc/hosts file? Should I restart some daemon?
[15:11] <genii> h22: Changes to that file should take effect immediately, unless perhaps you're using some caching application like squid
[15:11] <joshu> ActionParsnip so is that brother udev rule deb package useless?
[15:13] <joshu> ActionParsnip https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b5575431e129b021c7b3
[15:13] <irssi-mike> Trying to gain some disk space and looking in synaptic i see this nexuiz-textures is about half a gig.. How do i find out if taking this out will ruin my box and should i apt-get purge?
[15:14] <irssi-mike> :)
[15:15] <h22> genii: I do I check if I'm using caching app?
[15:15] <irssi-mike> oh oops, it's a game and i just clicked and it said it's a game, never mind
[15:15] <h22> genii: And If I am, How do I clear it?
[15:18] <akka> exit
[15:20] <usr13> h22: Are you using squid?
[15:20] <genii> h22: Since there are so many of them you could be using, the best test is just to do something like add: 8.8.8.8         dnstest        ...to /etc/hosts ( which is one of google's public dns servers) then do: sudo sync     .... then try: ping -c5 dnstest    ...to see if it works
[15:21] <h22> genii, usr13.. I did `service network-manager restart` and it works.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> irssi-mike: its part of the nexuiz game, thats all. If you remove it the game wont work
[15:25] <rhdenis> whoever hacked ubuntu forums is a tool.... whats the pont
[15:25] <rhdenis> point
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> irssi-mike: I suggest you remove old unused kernels
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> rhdenis: indeed
[15:26] <Sirisian|Work> I want to get a second opinion. So if I have some executables installed in /root/bin and I want them to be accessed by everyone would I just run add /root/bin to /etc/environment's path variable?
[15:27] <rhdenis> i read that the russian hacker "Sputn1k_" who did it says he's not doing anything with the data, just proving a point.... what a tool
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> irssi-mike: bleachbit ran as root and user (with as many apps closed as possible) can clear temp files and logs. Watch settings that say they will take a long time and watch application settings r it will remove settings you want to keep
[15:27] <Shadowandlight> trying to run sudo ./configure on mod_wsgi-3.4, but it errorts out with the following.... https://privatepaste.com/d35f56dc28 .... any ideas?
[15:28] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: you're missing apache components
[15:28] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: isn't there a pre-compiled version of this module
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: why sudo for configure? also why are you using sudo when you are already root?
[15:28] <ikonia> why are you compiling as root more to the point
[15:28] <Shadowandlight> sorry just trying to follow a set of instructions
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:28] <ikonia> Shadowandlight:if possible I'd advise you to back away from what you are doing
[15:29] <Shadowandlight> root@ubuntu:/home/mod_wsgi-3.4# cat /etc/issue
[15:29] <Shadowandlight> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:29] <Shadowandlight> root@ubuntu:/home/mod_wsgi-3.4#
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: what are you trying to compile?
[15:29] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: the ubuntu package is called libapache2-mod-wsgi
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thanks, saved me a job
[15:29] <genii> Hm, root@wherever
[15:29] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: there is no need to compile it
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: you do realize that sudo gives users root like access?
[15:31] <rhdenis> those ubuntu forums help poor people all over the world for "free"..... this hackers better lay low...
[15:31] <ikonia> rhdenis: don't need any comment on it
[15:31] <Shadowandlight> yes i do, i was having permission errors installing a package last night so i ended up going into root to fix it
[15:32] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: if you have permissions problems as "sudo" you sohuld not become root
[15:32] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: sudo gives you all the permission root does
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: so why are you using sudo, if you are already root? It doesn't make any sense....?
[15:33] <Shadowandlight> well 1) i am extremely new to linux... 2) i dont really know what i am doing.. hence being here
[15:33] <ikonia> either way - drop out of your root shell, install the package I gave you and you won't need to compile anything
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: you have been given a package name you can install to achieve what you need
[15:33] <Shadowandlight> sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-wsgi - shows already installed?
[15:33] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: then it's already installed, job done
[15:34] <Shadowandlight> ok
[15:34] <irssi-mike> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/1cTMX2S2 Can I get rid of the "-23" and "lts-quantal" and just keep "-36"
[15:34] <rhdenis> hackers had a good rep, at least among the linux community... till now
[15:34] <ikonia> rhdenis: are you unable to grasp that I've told you "no more comment is nessasary"
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> irssi-mike: you need the metapackage, just remove the -23 kernel, it'll save you about 110Mb space
[15:35] <irssi-mike> ActionParsnip: ty
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> irssi-mike: uninstall unused apps too, if you use webmail you can uninstall thunderbird, and so on
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> irssi-mike: a default Ubuntu install has a lot of fluff, some of which you won't use.
[15:38] <irssi-mike> ActionParsnip: thunderbird, on it
[15:39] <mregg964> Hi, on Raring, after a reboot, desktop icons suddenly appeared... and I can't hide them away, even with  Unity Tweak Tool. What's going on?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> irssi-mike: stuff like that, emove the games if you don't use them
[15:40] <irssi-mike> ActionParsnip: I was looking at synaptic at packages not yet installed but most of it seemed small apt-get clean got me the space to burn a disc, i needed /tmp space apparenty
[15:40] <__raven> MYTHTV DB too old: how to update db on 12.04 backend-server to be compatible with 13.04 frontend?
[15:40] <esing> hi
[15:41] <usr13> __raven: updatedb  ?
[15:42] <esing> I wanted to run the ubuntu 13.04 live usb on my laptop (sony vaio 13 pro) , but it is stuck on a black screen
[15:42] <usr13> __raven: .... but I don't know what the MYTHTV DB is.  Maybe different....
[15:42] <usr13> __raven: (I've never run MYTHTV
[15:42] <ikonia> __raven: you need to check the versions
[15:43] <ikonia> __raven: client/server compatability does some times break with different vesions,
[15:43] <ikonia> usr13: it's a mysql database
[15:43] <usr13> O
[15:44] <usr13> !nomodeset | esing
[15:45] <esing> ubottu Thank you for the hint, I'll try that
[15:45] <esing> ^
[15:45] <esing> thanks usr13
[15:45] <usr13> NP
[15:46]  * nhearn 
[15:47] <nhearn> hi, im looking for a little help.  forgive my ignorance as I am new to this IRC Chat
[15:48] <blazemore> !ask | nhearn
[15:48] <__raven> ikonia, usr13 mythtv runs with mysql. that would be one question: do i need to upgrade the mythtv-version or is it the mysql server itself?
[15:50] <nhearn> I have exhausted my googleing skills and come up with very little.  I am using a Radeon hd6450 graphics card wich has 1 analog and 2 digital (hdmi/dvi) outputs.  I am trying to get 2 screens to work at the same time.  but each time I plug in a second screen Ubuntu enters a loop telling me a new screen has been detected and keeps trying it at different refresh rates.  it hits the manufacture suggested refresh but then resets bac
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> nhearn: tried a different cable?
[15:53] <nhearn> also, anyone know how to get gparted status from terminal.  I was partitioning my hard drive when I plugged in the monitor, then it reset my displays and i inadvertedly selected a refresh rate my monitors dont support.  Now I am in console and running top to see if gparted is running, i can see it but I was wondering if there is any way to get its current job/status??
[15:53] <nhearn> ah, yes  different cables.
[15:53] <ikonia> __raven: it's the mythtv version
[15:54] <ikonia> __raven: it's not the actual mysql version
[15:55] <__raven> ikonia, i already did an upgrade via ppa but still no solution. ill try to purge and reconfigure
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> nhearn: or different port on the screen (if it has more than one)
[15:55] <esing> usr13 I added nomodeset to the boot parameters and I booted into the command line. So that's a little progress. I tried from the commandline 'startx', but that results in three errors: 1) file /home/ubuntu/.Xauthority does not exist  2) Fatal server error: no screens founds 3) unable to connect to X server : connection refused. Xinit: unepected signal 2.   And in /var/log/Xorg.0.log there is
[15:55] <esing> this error "open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory" VESA(9): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> nhearn, run xrandr to see what does work then xrandr -s 1024x768  this resolution just shows an example
[15:56] <esing> usr13 My graphic card is intergrated haswell graphicard
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> nhearn, then go from console to de, I assume you are in tty
[15:59] <nhearn> i am
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> nhearn, I think that may get you back to the de, not sure from a console.
[16:00] <usr13> esing: Is it a Desktop PC?
[16:00] <nhearn> xrandr said "Can't open display"
[16:00] <adamus> #xubuntu
[16:00] <adamus> join #xubuntu
[16:01] <usr13> nhearn: export DSIPLAY=:0.0
[16:01] <esing> usr13 It's a laptop
[16:01] <usr13> esing: Make and model ____________   _____________?
[16:01] <esing> usr13 Sony vaio 13 pro
[16:01] <Kat666Dude> sad
[16:01] <Kat666Dude> can anyone see me??
[16:01] <wilee-nilee> no
[16:01] <nhearn> hmmm, "cant open display :0.0"
[16:02] <nhearn> odd
[16:02] <nhearn> yes Kat
[16:02] <blazemore> Kat666Dude: I see your messages
[16:02] <Kat666Dude> awesome! THanx Blazemore!! First time here :)
[16:02] <usr13> esing: https://spicious.com/sony-vaio-pro-11-with-ubuntu.html
[16:03] <wilee-nilee> adamus, /j #xubuntu
[16:04] <DJSBX> so.. last night I upgraded my packages (12.04.02 Server Edition) and now mysql isnt working
[16:04] <DJSBX> tried the whole purge, reinstall, reconfigure, etc
[16:04] <DJSBX> nothing seems to be working
[16:04] <tmmunq> mysqld? client? what do you mean 'not working'?
[16:04] <DJSBX> sorry
[16:04] <DJSBX> let me get some output
[16:04] <DJSBX> installing it I should saw
[16:04] <DJSBX> say*
[16:05] <DJSBX> https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/1e03601f7af3f55804cb
[16:05] <DJSBX> I've been trying to find a solution for hours
[16:05] <DJSBX> apparently this seems to be a common thing
[16:05] <DJSBX> but none of the solutions Ive found, actually work for me
[16:06] <esing> usr13 Thank you for the link!
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> !enter > DJSBX
[16:06] <esing> usr13 If I understand his article correctly, then Dual efi boot isn't working yet with sony vaio pro?
[16:06] <usr13> DJSBX: Did you do "apt-get autoremove"?
[16:06] <DJSBX> yes
[16:06] <blazemore> DJSBX: What happens when you run "sudo service mysql start" ?
[16:07] <DJSBX> blazemore: start: Job failed to start
[16:07] <DJSBX> you can see in that gist, that it tries to run the upstart job for mysql and fails
[16:07] <usr13> DJSBX: "Job"?
[16:07] <blazemore> DJSBX: Do you have anything in /var/log/mysql/error.log
[16:07] <DJSBX> usr13: thats what it said, verbatim
[16:07] <usr13> Ok
[16:07] <tmmunq> i think you have to run dpkg-reconfigure on the mysql-server package, you should get a curses program that lets you configure the mysql server
[16:07] <DJSBX> blazemore: file doesnt exist
[16:08] <DJSBX> tmmunq: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server is broken or not fully installed
[16:08] <usr13> DJSBX: What happened with apt-get autoremove ?
[16:09] <tmmunq> then run it against mysql-server-5.5, 'mysql-server' sounds like a metapackage
[16:09] <DJSBX> tmmunq: same thing, except replace mysql-server with mysql-server-5.5
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> DJSBX: can you stop mysql then install it?
[16:09] <DJSBX> mysql isnt running,
[16:09] <usr13> DJSBX: dpkg-reconfigure -a
[16:10] <ibolmo> I followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo but the mount -t nfs command stalls/stays stuck
[16:10] <ibolmo> i disabled firewall, and verified the setup. syslog isn't being helpful
[16:10] <ibolmo> any other debug tips?
[16:11] <Lope> my sound output device was detected and working on my laptop last night. today its not detected. there is only a dummy output device... any ideas? is there some driver I can restart?
[16:11] <DJSBX> usr13: this is what happened when I did auto-remove. It asked me to enter a new root pw for mysql and then this shows up http://i.imgur.com/lQSOmXb.png
[16:11] <DJSBX> usr13: trying dpkg-reconfigure -a, but it's taking a bit of time
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Lope: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Lope: wait 10 seconds and reboot
[16:13] <usr13> DJSBX: You said earlier that you did   apt-get purge something-or-other ?
[16:14] <DJSBX> usr13: https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/66232c871cab4acd86c3
[16:14] <DJSBX> yeah I tried to purge, clean, autoremove, etc, all the mysql packages
[16:14] <DJSBX> and then try to reinstall them
[16:14] <DJSBX> btu that didnt work either
[16:14] <Sirisian|Work> So I added /root/bin to the path variables in /etc/environment but when I restart my server I can't access any of the commands. when I echo $PATH I get "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games;/root/bin" what am I doing wrong?
[16:17] <tmmunq> looks like permission error
[16:18] <usr13> DJSBX: Re-Installing a package or package(s) is not a silver bullet, and sometimes it is the wrong thing to do.
[16:18] <usr13> DJSBX: It is often a better route to fix what you have.
[16:18] <usr13> DJones: I found this:  http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13046&start=210
[16:19] <DJSBX> usr13: the issue isnt my ps3mediaserver though.. :S..
[16:19] <usr13> I know.... but it is one issue.  (You seem to have several.)
[16:19] <DJSBX> it is?
[16:19] <DJSBX> I have no problem with my ps3mediaserver.. it works fine
[16:20] <usr13> DJSBX: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:21] <joshu> ActionParsnip I've still not been able to sort out scanning as a normal user. I tried sudo adduser saned scanner and sudo adduser saned lp but nothing
[16:21] <usr13> DJSBX: I do not remember what you said was the outcome of  sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:22] <DJSBX> usr13: this is what happened when I did auto-remove. It asked me to enter a new root pw for mysql and then this shows up http://i.imgur.com/lQSOmXb.png
[16:22] <usr13> DJSBX: Ok.  Did  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  do anything?  Or did it error out?
[16:22] <ibolmo> has anyone had time out issues with nfs?
[16:23] <DJSBX> it did something with some other packages
[16:23] <anonee> pidof isn't working, is this normal in ubuntu?
[16:23] <d[o_o]b> na corn
[16:23] <corn> hello
[16:23] <d[o_o]b> ez csati
[16:23] <usr13> DJSBX: Try  sudo apt-get autoremove again.
[16:23] <d[o_o]b> mit szolsz?
[16:23] <corn> szep
[16:23] <d[o_o]b> igy kellene kinezzen az underneten is vaegy magyar kozosseg
[16:23] <DJSBX> usr13: nothing happens. Just says there is nothing to remove
[16:24] <corn> igen
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> joshu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/217571
[16:25] <usr13> DJSBX: Try  sudo apt-get -f install
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> !hungarian | d[o_o]b
[16:25] <anonee> ActionParsnip is it normal that pidof doesn't return anything in ubuntu?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> anonee: if the process isnt runnning then yes, watch out for python apps which will be python and not the name of the app using it
[16:26] <d[o_o]b> ActionParsnip: koszonom szepen
[16:26] <corn> mik ezek a dcc kuldesek?
[16:26] <corn> hmm
[16:27] <usr13> DJSBX: Is it working?
[16:27] <DJones> corn: This channel is for Ubuntu support in English
[16:27] <DJSBX> usr13: one sec
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> anonee:  ps -ef| grep vlc | grep -v grep | awk {'print $2'}     is one way to do it using grep on ps output...
[16:28] <usr13> DJSBX: uptime   #What does it say?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> anonee: thats the same as:   pidof vlc
[16:28] <corn> sorry ActionParsnip
[16:29] <DJSBX> usr13: Not too sure what reason that would be important, but... usr13: this is what happened when I did auto-remove. It asked me to enter a new root pw for mysql and then this shows up http://i.imgur.com/lQSOmXb.png
[16:29] <DJSBX> oops
[16:29] <DJSBX> 11:29:01 up 5 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.41, 0.47, 0.23
[16:30] <usr13> DJSBX: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux*list  #Look at the last one on the list, compare to uname -r
[16:31] <usr13> DJSBX: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic   #What does that say?
[16:31] <anonee> ActionParsnip OMG thank you
[16:31] <usr13> DJSBX: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic*list   #What does that say?   #Correction
[16:32] <anonee> ActionParsnip I'll try to understand this command
[16:33] <DJSBX> usr13: well uname -r is 3.2.0-51-generic, and the last command you gave me gives me /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic.list
[16:34] <usr13> DJSBX: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux*list | pastebinit #Show us the list.
[16:35] <DJSBX> usr13: https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/1607a7f1f56fb890e174
[16:35] <ghostnik11> hi i am about to install the latest ubuntu and i want to know if i should select "encrypt the new ubuntu installation for security"
[16:35] <Ironsight> (is #ubuntu-offtopic broke? I tried to connect and nothing happens)
[16:36] <anonee> ActionParsnip I tried to read man screen but I think I need someone to explain to me just what does screen do I didn't get it, I'm not a programmer.
[16:37] <ghostnik11> is it good to go with encrypt the new ubuntu installaiton for security?
[16:37] <k1l> Ironsight: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:37] <Ironsight> anonee: Screen is an app that is useful for people that remote login into their servers. It lets you run a program inside of it, and then when you logout, the process isn't lost. Then when you log back in, you can run screen and get back to what you were doing.
[16:37] <ghostnik11> or will i have this option later on if i don't choose it now during installation
[16:37] <usr13> DJSBX: I'm looking at https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/1e03601f7af3f55804cb and see "he following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic"  It appears that the package manager has some conflict there.  Maybe try removing some of the old kernels?  (Work from top to bottom https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/1607a7f1f56fb890e174  and maybe just leave the last two.
[16:38] <usr13> DJSBX: And you might even use purge
[16:38] <usr13> But I dono if it would make a difference.
[16:39] <usr13> And then do:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    (again).
[16:39] <ghostnik11> if i encrypt will i be able to install other linux OS's along side ubuntu
[16:40] <Kyubey> Hi, I need some basic help.
[16:41] <Kyubey> I'm giving my old laptop to my sister and she wants a fresh install, but for some reason I can't get the usb to work.
[16:41] <Kyubey> The computer already has Ubuntu 10.04
[16:41] <Kyubey> Is there something I'm doing wrong?
[16:42] <corn> bye
[16:42] <corn> :)
[16:42] <Ironsight> anonee: For instance, say you want to run a game server, and be able to control it remotely… say at work. You run run screen, which will pull up a terminal. You then start the game server from that terminal inside of screen. Then when you want to logout, you press a certain keyboard shortcut that logs you out of screen. You can then at work, login via ssh and load up screen and check that your server is still running.
[16:42] <ghostnik11> Kyubey: maybe your not tell the computer via bios which to select first either hdd or usb drive
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> Kyubey, First will the computer boot from a usb, does the bios show it?
[16:42] <DJSBX> usr13: so, completely and utterly removed any mysql stuff whatsoever from the server. Tried a new install https://gist.github.com/DJSymBiotiX/23f1116ec5d6f2af69a1 same issues
[16:43] <thiscantbegood--> Has anyone seen this before when booting with a cd? -> http://ericmcaine.com/20130729_123808.jpeg
[16:43] <Kyubey> Where can I see where the computer boots from?
[16:43] <thiscantbegood--> I wonder if it's a driver issue
[16:43] <thiscantbegood--> -video
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> thiscantbegood--, shows servive unavailable
[16:44] <thiscantbegood--> The link is bad?
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> Kyubey, Can you get to the bios?
[16:44] <thiscantbegood--> ...
[16:44] <usr13> DJSBX: "mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed"
[16:45] <thiscantbegood--> here http://oi43.tinypic.com/im01av.jpg
[16:45] <Kyubey> wilee-nilee: I don't know how.
[16:45] <Sava> hello, can somebody help me, i need to make home folders of all the computers on a local network be accessible to all....
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> thiscantbegood--, Showed in opera, hit f5 0r f6 I forget which in the first gui and choose nomodeset and continus boot
[16:45] <ghostnik11> Kyubey: you have to restart your computer and press f1 or f2
[16:45] <anonee> Ironsight I installed deluge daemon, I don't need to use the box remotely but I need the app to start before i login, I followed the installation tutorial but I don't seem to understand what's going on, I added the init scripts "deluged.conf" and "deluge-web.conf" but the web interface is acting funny until I run this command $ screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web , and now with the help of this ps -ef | grep deluged | grep -v grep | awk {'print $2'} I f
[16:45] <anonee> ound out there are two instances of deluge-web and 2 deluged (which is the deluge daemon) running at the same time, which is not what I want :(
[16:45] <thiscantbegood--> thanks
[16:46] <thiscantbegood--> can you link me to that page
[16:46] <ghostnik11> Kyubey: then once in bios, you can look up boot sequence to find out what the bios is telling the computer to boot first
[16:46] <DJSBX> usr13: hmm I think I figured it out
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> Kyubey, generally the power on splash tells you how to reach the bios and a boot from menu not in the bios.
[16:46] <DJSBX> and it's such a pissoff....
[16:47] <Sava> that is, the home folders of all users, the users are the same on every machine, be available to everyone no matter at which machine they log in
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> thiscantbegood--, Use nicks, what page?
[16:47] <thiscantbegood--> I'm confused with your English sorry... so I press f5 or f6 when? http://oi43.tinypic.com/im01av.jpg
[16:47] <anonee> Ironsight are you staying for about 30 min?
[16:48] <Ironsight> On and off
[16:48] <Ironsight> :)
[16:48] <Ironsight> I'm at work, so...
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> thiscantbegood--, When you boot the live cd/usb there is a page that says try or install or check the memory, not the exact words, unless you have loaded a usb with unetbootin, that screen is bypassed.
[16:49] <Ironsight> anonee: I am not great with startup scripts
[16:49] <Kyubey> I tried pressing both F1 anf F2, F1 does nothing and F2 flashes the ubuntu logo, but ends up in the normal logging in screen
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> Kyubey, what is the computer model
[16:50] <Kyubey> Asus
[16:50] <distilledchaos> Hello All. I foolhardedly tried to hibernate with an encrypted home disk.
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> Kyubey, asus what that is the manufacturer
[16:50] <Kyubey> UL20A
[16:50] <distilledchaos> When I boot, the login screen is different
[16:50] <distilledchaos> And when I log in, it just sits there without a mouse
[16:51] <wilee-nilee> Kyubey, I see on the web f2 start tapping that at powering on til you see the bios.
[16:51] <distilledchaos> Where do I start looking for a solution to getting my system working again?
[16:52] <distilledchaos> I don't care about hibernate, I was just curious what it would do.
[16:52] <distilledchaos> But I do need my computer working again.
[16:52] <Kyubey> wilee-nilee: I'll try that
[16:52] <ryan___> I have a fresh install of 12.04.  Everything was working OK until I accidentally tried to install edubuntu from software center.  Now the Application Search in the Unity dash is empty.  Can anyone help me to get it working again or let me know an alternative to launch applications?
[16:52] <DJSBX> fyi. If mysql insnt installing properly, it might be because /tmp has incorrect permissions <_<
[16:53] <Kyubey> Heyyy, BIOS!
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> Kyubey, If that does not work here is my google search. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=asus+UL20A+reach+bios&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=fp32Uf6vO6aWigK0nYB4
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> Kyubey, Cool, put the usb first in the drive list, if you still get no boot there is another per-session boot from menu we cab use.
[16:54] <Kyubey> I got it. I have a feeling I had to do the same thing when I first installed Ubuntu.
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> can*
[16:57] <puffin> sup
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> ryan___, Logout and choose the ubuntu desktop and see if that fixes this, and don't just install stuff without knowing.
[16:58] <Anaxandridas> Hi, guys. Ubuntu 12.04 issue. Every time I put my computer in Suspend, when I open it back up later the screen repeatedly flashes, and computer is unresponsive. Screen is black, flashing white at rate of flashflash pause, flashflash pause, flashflash pause. Clicking, button pressing, nothing has result. Computer continues flashing until I turn it off.
[16:58] <usr13> DJSBX: ... or ownership ...
[16:59] <usr13> Anaxandridas: How much RAM do you have in this system?
[17:01] <Anaxandridas> usr13, I just tried to check and realised that I don't know how to see, in Ubuntu.
[17:01] <Anaxandridas> I bought the computer last week, and installed Ubuntu the day after. So... Don't know.
[17:01] <usr13> Anaxandridas: free
[17:01] <Anaxandridas> Free?
[17:02] <usr13> Anaxandridas: Or ls /proc/meminfo
[17:02] <usr13> Anaxandridas: Or cat /proc/meminfo
[17:02] <usr13> correction   ^^^^^
[17:02] <Kyubey> Ha, now it works! thanks for help, everybody!
[17:02] <usr13> Anaxandridas: Open a terminal, type "free" (without quotes), hit enter.
[17:03] <Anaxandridas> I did... Not sure which is RAM. I'm... Not exactly a computer genius, sorry.
[17:03] <usr13> Anaxandridas: free | pastebinit  #Show us resulting URL
[17:04] <Anaxandridas> http://pastebin.com/n93Neh90, usr13.
[17:04] <Anaxandridas> And thank you for your patience.
[17:04] <oldude67> cant do an update, says /boot  is too full, easiest way to fix that?
[17:05] <oldude67> dont say to install tweak tool it wont let me yet.
[17:05] <oldude67> 13.04
[17:05] <oldude67> and please and thank you. for your time and paitence.
[17:06] <oldude67> or point me in the right direction please.
[17:06] <usr13> Anaxandridas: free   #Compare the first collum entry in the top row to one in the last row.
[17:06] <usr13> or bottom row
[17:07] <Anaxandridas> ...
[17:07] <usr13> Anaxandridas: So that issue is eliminated.  (Swap is not too small.)
[17:08] <Anaxandridas> Glad you could tell that. I'm sorry I couldn't have been more use in the matter.
[17:08] <Anaxandridas> Like I said... Ubuntu noob.
[17:08] <Anaxandridas> So, any other ideas?
[17:09] <usr13> Is it fully updated?
[17:09] <usr13> Anaxandridas: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:10] <Anaxandridas> Running now. Though, I've updated since I got the computer, and I've always had the suspend issue.
[17:10] <ghostnik11> i want to install cinnamon desktop but there is no synaptic, i have the instructions for installing synaptic package manager but i want to know if cinnamon will get updates and be updated when i do sudo apt-get update
[17:11] <c0nn3x0r_> anybody home?
[17:11] <Anaxandridas> No.
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> c0nn3x0r_, 1500 people state your issue for help.
[17:12] <Anaxandridas> Ok, usr13... Any other "just in case" ideas before I test suspend a few times?
[17:13] <c0nn3x0r_> bro, i want to ask something
[17:13] <usr13> Anaxandridas: See if that helps, but other than that, just don't use suspend  (If it doesn't work, don't use it).  (In other words, that's all I have on the issue, maybe someone else does. ... You might try hybernate instead.)
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> c0nn3x0r_, Then ask it that is how this works.
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> !ask
[17:14] <c0nn3x0r_> hmm... this channel is ubuntu, rights?
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> c0nn3x0r_, What is the channel name?
[17:14] <Anaxandridas> usr13, I like the idea of hibernate. However, the only such button I've ever found is Suspend. How do I hibernate, in Cinnamon?
[17:14] <c0nn3x0r_> #ubuntu
[17:14] <usr13> http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> c0nn3x0r_, So what does that tell you windows help. ;)
[17:15] <c0nn3x0r_> why you choose ubuntu OS for your PC ?
[17:15] <usr13> Anaxandridas:  I also see:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/199071/problem-after-suspend-ubuntu-12-04
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> !ot | c0nn3x0r_
[17:16] <Anaxandridas> Thanks. I'd have googled it had I realised it was intentionally not there. APpreciate the links, thank you for the help. Have a good one :D
[17:16] <usr13> Anaxandridas: ... but doesn't look like much help ...
[17:16] <ZedGama3> Anyone have any idea why changes using efibootmgr would be lost on reboot?
[17:17] <Anaxandridas> usr13, it was the only help proffered. That makes it good help :D
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> c0nn3x0r_  you should some case studies about ubuntu, to get an idea why
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> should read*
[17:17] <usr13> Anaxandridas: May be that suspend just won't work on your hardware under 12.04, (at least not right now).  Just a speculation but....
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> ZedGama3, Have you looked at the uefi wiki?
[17:18] <netlar> When they say that a NVidia driver is certified for Linux, what does that mean?
[17:18] <ZedGama3> Yes, and many other resources.  I haven't seen any references to this problem.
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> ZedGama3, This a uefi W8 dual boot efi generally means apple here.
[17:18] <c0nn3x0r_> I just ask, do you choose ubuntu OS for coding? hacking? or something else??
[17:18] <usr13> netlar: Not much I'm afraid.  (Baybe other opinions around but....)
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> c0nn3x0r_, This is support not chat.
[17:18] <ZedGama3> This is a new PC, came with windows 8
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | ZedGama3 Take a look here.
[17:19] <ZedGama3> I have the same problems when using easyBCD
[17:19] <usr13> netlar: ... I suppoes you'd have to ask the Nvidia people
[17:19] <usr13> *suppose*
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> ZedGama3, we don't support easybcd I think they have a channel, a forum for sure.
[17:20] <netlar> usr13: I just have my eye on the GTX660, want to see if it is worth it
[17:20] <c0nn3x0r_> oohh.. may i false to join the chat, im so sorry ;)
[17:20] <ZedGama3> Both are having the same issue, it's like the bios isn't taking the change, but I don't know where to look for help at this point
[17:20] <oldude67> how do i manually clear room in /boot?
[17:21] <sidney_> is ubuntu launchpad down
[17:21] <usr13> netlar: https://www.google.com/search?q=+GTX660+Ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> ZedGama3, Adding a 3rd bootloader is not a wise move as well.
[17:21] <usr13> oldude67: use apt-get and remove old kernels.
[17:21] <ZedGama3> I can change efi variables and they look fine.  But once I reboot they return back to their original values
[17:22] <ZedGama3> I was hoping to change UEFI to boot to grub, but it keeps going back to windows
[17:22] <chrisw125> Hey guys anybody had experience with the hud mx2?
[17:22] <usr13> oldude67: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list  #Compare with uname -r  Start at top of list and work your way down.
[17:23] <oldude67> yeah
[17:23] <oldude67> this might be a minute. thank you usr13
[17:23] <usr13> oldude67: NP
[17:23] <usr13> oldude67: Let us know if we can be of further assistance.
[17:24] <sidney_> why is this command returning an error $ sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:teejee2008/ppa
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> chrisw125, What release are you running?
[17:25] <chrisw125> wilee-nilee, technically elementary os
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> chrisw125, THat is not even close to being a ubuntu support issue I believe, nor is that OS.
[17:26] <trism> sidney_: would help to include a pastebin of the error
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> chrisw125, If you are registered you might try ##linux
[17:26] <chrisw125> while-nilee, alright
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> chrisw125, I see #elementary-os & #elementary  as well.
[17:28] <isbric> stupid question -  whats the downside of creating a pv directly on a device like "pvcreate /dev/sdb" ie no partition table?
[17:28] <chrisw125> whilee-nilee, thought id get a better response here since it affects mosts distro's and is oddly device specific
[17:28] <bekks> isbric: There is none.
[17:29] <chrisw125> while-nilee, thanks though
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> chrisw125, Understandable, its just ubuntu support is all. ;)
[17:29] <isbric> one upside is that i wount have to strugle with big disks and fdisk
[17:29] <chrisw125> whilee-nilee, fair enough
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[17:29] <trijntje> Hi all, what is the recommended way to resize an encrypted ubuntu install?
[17:30] <sidney_> http://pastebin.com/CTtz9MEN
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> trijntje, not encrypting to start with that is a kettle of smelly fish.
[17:31] <sidney_> trism, http://pastebin.com/CTtz9MEN
[17:31] <trijntje> wilee-nilee, unless you have a time machine I can borrow, thats not really usefull advice
[17:32] <isbric> trijntje: lmgtfy : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[17:33] <trijntje> isbric, thanks, but that seems to be written for hardy, so I was wondering if there are more up to date instructions
[17:34] <ripthejacker> need help with open source radeon driver
[17:35] <Steevca> Hi,i just downloaded the Ubuntu 13.04 and i want to install it,but the problem is that on my HD i can have only 4 partitions,and i have them so i can't make a new one. Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a NTFS partition ?
[17:35] <isbric> trijntje: oh, i guess it's an interesting read anyway.
[17:36] <Sonderblade> Steevca: probably, but it absolutely is not a good idea. you want a linux-native fs
[17:36] <sidney_> Steevca, do you mean 4 primary partitions
[17:36] <Steevca> sidney_: Oh yeah,i am stupid. I forgot about that.
[17:36] <trijntje> isbric, yes, but it has all this complicated 'remove partition table, re create it with some offset' stuf that seems a recipe for disaster ;)
[17:36] <Steevca> I just did a facepalm.
[17:36] <sidney_> try to create an extended partition
[17:37] <Steevca> sidney_: Yeah,thanks.
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> Steevca, No, you will have to lose one primary and put a extended in to have logical partitions for ubuntu.
[17:37] <isbric> trijntje: no no, encryption is the recipe ;)
[17:38] <platzhirsch> Any idea how to use the disk usage analyzer tool if the home folder is encryped?
[17:38] <trijntje> isbric, I blame windows, if it didn't need 60+ GB for just the OS I wouldn't be doing this in the first place
[17:38] <trism> sidney_: I think the problem here is you are on debian wheezy, not ubuntu, so it can't find a supported distro on the ppa
[17:39] <trijntje> platzhirsch, you mean boabab? It should run fine since home folder encryption is on a per-file basis
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> Steevca, Are you backed up in windows, an image/clone?
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> sidney_, Are you advising to add a extened to 4 primaries?
[17:39] <platzhirsch> trijntje: it works. Though I cannot read what folder has how much storage
[17:40] <isbric> well im out, best of luck to you :)
[17:40] <platzhirsch> home/platzhirsch and then I only see .ecryptfs
[17:41] <ripthejacker> display is all broken like static in TV , using amd radeon hd 6450 with open source radeon drivers
[17:41] <ripthejacker> please help
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> Steevca, One of the problems here is that windows 8 is a gpt so be sure to identify if you have a msdos or uefi setuo.
[17:43] <platzhirsch> trijntje: well, it's reported
[17:43] <platzhirsch> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baobab/+bug/1184283
[17:43] <trijntje> platzhirsch, are you using a live system?
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> !help > ripthejacker
[17:44] <jarray52> Does Ubuntu have a libdl.so.1?
[17:44] <ripthejacker> ok
[17:44] <ikonia> jarray52: sure
[17:44] <kostkon> !find libdl.so.1
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> !info libdl.so.1
[17:45] <kostkon> !find libdl.so
[17:45] <Mosselman> hey guys. I want to host my e-mails myself in order to (partially) prevent employees of my web host (and the NSA) snooping through my stuff. Would it be possible to setup a VPS with my e-mail server and then prevent employees from the cloud company to access the machine?
[17:45]  * genii ponders libsdl
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> Mosselman, Loosen the tin foil hat. ;)
[17:46] <Mosselman> wilee-nilee: you can if you want to
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> hardly a ubuntu support question
[17:48] <Mosselman> wilee-nilee: hardly helpful comment the last one
[17:49] <Sonderblade> Mosselman: even if your handling of email is completely safe, how are you to ensure that everyone who receives your emails do the same?
[17:49] <Mosselman> wilee-nilee: also I think it is, since I am talking about using ubuntu
[17:49] <Mosselman> Sonderblade: that is true and something that I am willing to accept
[17:49] <joshu> still struggling to get scanning to work without sudo. There are many different methods that I've seen via google on how to fix this and I'd like to know what is preferred way of doing it.
[17:49] <ikonia> Mosselman: you know that emails are sent across the internet, out of your ISP's gateways....for all to read
[17:50] <joshu> One is to modify /lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules" SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", MODE="0664" and change MODE to 0666
[17:50] <Mosselman> Sonderblade: I am not going to e-mail plans for building bombs around and stuff, it is just that I'd like to prevent employee-x from having a look around
[17:50] <Mosselman> ikonia: I have thought about this enough and I am aware of the limitations with the conceptual elements
[17:50] <ikonia> Mosselman: you clearly haven't
[17:51] <Sonderblade> Mosselman: use pgp to encrypt your messages?
[17:51] <Mosselman> ikonia: explain to me why not
[17:51] <ikonia> Mosselman: as you believe that the people hosting your server can be "locked out"
[17:51] <Mosselman> ikonia: you can never lockout anyone 100$
[17:51] <Mosselman> 100%
[17:51] <ikonia> Mosselman: Mosselman it's a vps - the person who controls the host will be able to access it
[17:52] <jarray52> what's the difference between libdl.so.2 and libdl.so.1?
[17:52] <joshu> Mosselman also from setting up email servers and maintaining them it is tough stuff and you need to know many things to prevent spam etc
[17:52] <Mosselman> but right now my e-mails on my webhost's server are just open, so a privileged user can just cd around
[17:52] <ikonia> Mosselman: yes, that is correct, thats how an email setup works
[17:52] <olskolirc> ubuntu is SO dead!  We have pentest OS's now even fedora and pentoo has theirs.  Ours is Kali-Linux so why stay with Ubuntu?
[17:52] <ikonia> olskolirc: don't, if you don't need/like it, do'nt use it
[17:53] <ikonia> olskolirc: ubuntu is not designed for pentesting eclusivily, so if it doesn't meet your needs, don't use it
[17:53] <olskolirc> ikonia, I've been on Ubuntu since 1996 when it first came out
[17:53] <Mosselman> ikonia: self hosting already solves part of the problem, but with many VPS setups an admin can still change or see your root password and login, I am looking for a way to make it so that I can only (easily) gain root
[17:53] <Mosselman> for example with 2 way authentication
[17:53] <olskolirc> upgrade to better now
[17:53] <ikonia> olskolirc: what does that matter
[17:53] <joshu> Mosselman but this is pretty much true for anything. At some point you have to realise that today if you want total control of all of your info whether it's super secret stuff or not. There is no 100% way unless you unplug from the net.
[17:53] <ikonia> Mosselman: running on a VPS does not change that
[17:53] <olskolirc> aren't we all pentesters?
[17:53] <Pici> olskolirc: Were you looking for some sort of support, or are you just here to rant?
[17:53] <olskolirc> really
[17:53] <ikonia> Mosselman: the people who run the vps hosts - will always have access to your data
[17:54] <netlar> What is a Pentester
[17:54] <olskolirc> Pici, I was here when freenode started too
[17:54] <joshu> Mosselman then setup a server at home and the data resides in your vicinity and you have physical control
[17:54] <Mosselman> ikonia: I never said they can't
[17:54] <ikonia> Mosselman: so why are you asking if you can do this
[17:54] <Pici> olskolirc: We don't care.
[17:54] <joshu> netlar someone who penetrates for a living :P
[17:54] <olskolirc> the legal way of saying hacker netlar
[17:54] <Mosselman> ikonia: you just want to be negative it seems
[17:54] <ikonia> Mosselman: no, I'm being realistic
[17:55] <olskolirc> YOU don't Pici get a grip and move the f on
[17:55] <ikonia> Mosselman: I can lie to you to be positive if you want, "sure sure, you can make it totally safe and block the people who run the hosts from your data"
[17:55] <Mosselman> ikonia: security is not black-white. you can have different levels
[17:55] <ikonia> Mosselman: from your discussion view point, it's clear
[17:56] <olskolirc> ikonia, i used to admin here you stupid cunt
[17:56] <Mosselman> lets say normally an employee can even see your root password in his admin panel, then he can just access straight away for a little snoop
[17:56] <ikonia> Mosselman: forget the admin pannel
[17:56] <ikonia> Mosselman: the people who run the virtual hosting "host" will always have access to the virtual guest data
[17:56] <Mosselman> ikonia: if however I'd have some other form of extra authentication, lets say 2 way through mobile, he'd have to at least try harder
[17:57] <neodemi> is there an easy way to tell if ive encrypted my backup drive, upgrading a few bits and dont want to risk losing access to my files
[17:57] <Pici> Mosselman: You're running your machine on someone else's hardware.
[17:57] <ikonia> Mosselman: we are getting out of scope here for ubuntu, you'll need to do more research on this, I don't think you get how it works
[17:57] <anonee> anyone familiar with deluge?
[17:58] <anonee> deluge daemon indeed
[17:58] <Mosselman> pick ikonia, you just don't get the point, if you encrypt your drive for example they should not be able to access the data right?
[17:58] <ikonia> Mosselman: of course they can
[17:58] <btcquant> Need some help with setting up a RAID.  Have an encrypted drive with a bunch of data.  Now, I want to setup a mirrored RAID (also encrypted) but without losing the data.  Is that possible?
[17:59] <dirtydaw1> hello all im trying to use the rm command and even with sudo its giving me the cannot be deleted as is a directory....its the directory im trying to delete
[17:59] <Pici> dirtydaw1: are you using rm -rf ?
[17:59] <awpti> dirtydaw1, rm -rf
[18:00] <dirtydaw1> no i didnt please wait one while i re attempt
[18:00] <Mosselman> ikonia, yes because that is why encryption exists.
[18:00] <ikonia> Mosselman: no, you're just parroting blindly what the discussion in #ubuntu-server is
[18:01] <dirtydaw1> perfect worked fine that time thank your all what is the -rf for?
[18:01] <Mosselman> ikonia: If anything I have repeated what I said myself
[18:01] <ikonia> Mosselman: not as I read in #ubuntu-server
[18:01] <dirtydaw1> could goole it but your all faster :)
[18:01] <ikonia> Mosselman: I suggest you get on with it if you feel you are correct
[18:01] <Pici> dirtydaw1: recursive and force.  You *need* the -r for directories.
[18:01] <Pici> dirtydaw1: just use the built-in man pages next time: man rm
[18:02] <dirtydaw1> pici and and others i thank you all again!
[18:02] <Mosselman> ikonia: I suggest you evaluate why it is that you want to waste time in a support chat to be condescending to people
[18:03] <ikonia> Mosselman: I'm not doing that, I'm advising you that you do'nt need to do what you are trying to do - it's a waste and doesn't work as you fel
[18:03] <ikonia> feel
[18:03] <ikonia> Mosselman: you feel it is worth while and does work that way, in that case, whats the point of asking, stop asking and get on with "doing"
[18:04] <joshu> This is the udev rules files that Brother provides which they state should allow you to scan without superuser. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f344694ca9950fe908eb I installed the deb and this file installs to /etc/udev/rules.d/40-brother-libsane-type1.rules but I still can't scan as a normal user.
[18:05] <Pici> joshu: You may have to unplug and then replug your device after making those changes.
[18:07] <joshu> Pici I've tried rebooting, power cycling the printer and still can't scan without sudo. I don't know what's wrong as I've followed Brother's instructions on their site which is to sudo dpkg -i --force-all brother-udev-rule-type1-1.0.0-1.all.deb
[18:07] <rypervenche> btcquant: You would need to migrant your data off then reformat then move it back.
[18:08] <anonee> OK can anyone please explain this command to me? me@ubuntu $ screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web
[18:09] <funkt> Hi there I have lost all my indicator applets from the right hand sand in gnome in 12.04
[18:09] <funkt> would anyone know how i can get them back??
[18:10] <funkt> I cannot add to panel as it will not allow me to right click add to panel
[18:11] <anonee> funkt press windows logo+Alt and right-click
[18:11] <anonee> you're in GNOME Classic right?
[18:12] <ghostnik11> ii just shared a folder, and want to access that folder on another laptop on my network but when i click network in file manager, i can't see anything
[18:12] <ripthejacker> display on my ubuntu 13.04 is broken , I'm using amd radeon hd 6450 with open source drivers , please help
[18:13] <joshu> Pici hat off to you!! I have trying for a few hours searching and trying different things. I reverted my UBuntu test VM installed the scanner software and unplugged and plugged in the usb cable and it works. Amazing that rebooting or shutting down didn't take care of whatever needed to change!!
[18:13] <anonee> funkt windowslogo+Alt and right-click, then Add to panel > Indicator Applet Complete
[18:15] <funkt> haha!!!!!!!! frickin legends thank you!!!!! man that's been a ball ache all day! thank you!!!
[18:16] <Pici> joshu: woo
[18:17] <speedrunnerG55> #ubuntu
[18:17] <speedrunnerG55> hi
[18:18] <anonee> funkt u mean me?
[18:18] <speedrunnerG55> i am havving issues with my grub, i think. i have installed ubuntu 13.04 over mint and now i can not boot from it, all i got is grub rescue
[18:18] <funkt> yep cheers!
[18:19] <anonee> funkt :) glad it worked out, it took me a couple of days when i had this problem
[18:20] <anonee> funkt can you explain this command to me? please? screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web
[18:21] <speedrunnerG55> ;A;
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> speedrunnerG55, Try the bootrepiar app, you can just run the bootinfo summary and post it if you want us to look at it and advise.
[18:21] <funkt> no idea mate
[18:23] <Pici> anonee: Have you looked at the screen manpage?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> speedrunnerG55, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair can be run from a live cd.
[18:24] <anonee> Pici I tried, but I'll try again, now that I know more about what does screen do
[18:26] <joshu> Pici bad news I rebooted to see that it still worked, but it doesn't. Now I have to use sudo again. How's this possible?! :(
[18:26] <anonee> Pici what is flow-control exactly
[18:26] <Kitt3n> Why doesn't Minecraft get more than 10 fps with the ATI Radeon driver?
[18:27] <alumno_> hola
[18:27] <alumno_> z
[18:27] <alumno_> z
[18:27] <alumno_> z
[18:27] <FloodBot1> alumno_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:27] <Pici> anonee: it has to do with the negotiation and flow of the packets between yourself and the target.  I'm not sure how it alters screen's behavior
[18:27] <alumno_> oooooooooo
[18:28] <Pici> alumno_: stop
[18:28] <alumno_>                                         
[18:28] <alumno_> --------------------------------------
[18:28] <anonee> lol alumno is crazy?
[18:29] <genii> anonee: Possibly a language barrier
[18:31] <anonee> OK room, so sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, but I really wanna know, O
[18:32] <joshu> Pici you have any thoughts on why it worked when I un/re plugged, but not after reboot?
[18:33] <SkinnYPuP> test
[18:33] <anonee> I've read man screen but does it mean that when I run a program with screen I'm starting a new session like the gui session I'm running?
[18:34] <Pici> joshu: I'd have to guess it has to do with how the udev rule is structured, but I'd have to do a bunch of research myself to figure out how to do it properly.
[18:35] <joshu> Pici that wasn't good news either
[18:35] <thatstoner> well party on
[18:36] <caersith> anonee: screen is a terminal multiplexer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_multiplexer
[18:36] <joshu> Pici someone did this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/217571/comments/41
[18:37] <joshu> Pici but I don't know if that is a bad thing to do, e.g. change MODE to 0666.
[18:39] <Pici> joshu: it sounds reasonable, its just scanning.
[18:41] <goddard> my laptop shuts down when playing games
[18:41] <goddard> i think it is using to much power
[18:42] <goddard> or to hot?
[18:42] <theseb> help! i uninstalled acrobat but it STILL shows up on pdf launch menu!?!?!?
[18:42] <theseb> (it isn't the default but I STILL want to NOT see it..how nuke?)
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> theseb, uninstall it
[18:44] <theseb> wilee-nilee: i did and it sTILL shows up
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> theseb, they you probably didn't, how did you do it?
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> then*
[18:44] <theseb> wilee-nilee: i installed from source
[18:44] <theseb> wilee-nilee: bad idea
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> theseb, a tar?
[18:45] <theseb> yes
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> rooted?
[18:45] <theseb> wilee-nilee: there was an install script that ran as root
[18:45] <theseb> wilee-nilee: err wait....not as root
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> theseb, Try doing a search in home for it.
[18:46] <theseb> wilee-nilee: i nailed it....you need to remove AdobeReader.desktop from $HOME/.local
[18:47] <lauri__> ho ho ho, 3.8.0-27 kernel upgrade breaks my install
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> theseb, I was thinking local and .config
[18:47] <lauri__> can't boot to graphical interface
[18:47] <lauri__> any tips?
[18:47] <theseb> wilee-nilee: thanks for help
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> lauri__, Try the earlier kernel.
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[18:47] <max64> trying to connect to ThreatSpike VPN service giving me: (the vpn connection 'threat spike dome' failed because of invalid VPN secret)
[18:47] <lauri__> wilee-nilee yup I rolled back
[18:48] <lauri__> should I just keep the old kernel version? is it safe to do so? xubuntu 13.04 here
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> lauri__, Did you install a proprietary graphic driver per-chance?
[18:48] <lauri__> wilee-nilee do you mean catalysts from amd site?
[18:48] <anonee> caersith why would deluge-web run when i call it using this command $ screen -fa -d -S deluge-web -m deluge-web but won't run when i call it using the init script?
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> lauri__, Yes.
[18:48] <lauri__> yes I did
[18:49] <lauri__> catalyst 13.4
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> lauri__, Probably the problem, generally those don't follow kernel upgrades.
[18:49] <max64> can you help plz?
[18:50] <lauri__> should I remove drivers, do kernel update, reinstall drivers?
[18:50] <lauri__> I might even try the LTS release, there is less kernel updates, right?
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> max64, The channel works with you stating the problem in details you will get help if someone knows and wants to answer.
[18:51] <max64> wilee-nilee:that is ok dear :)
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> lauri__, Graphic stuff is not a good area for me, I just am familiar with the problems with using a proprietary, I believe you can reload it not sure of the process though. Might be a repo answer that follows the upgrades.
[18:52] <lauri__> ok
[18:53]  * wilee-nilee ignores drama
[18:55] <anonee> wilee-nilee your name is dramatic though
[18:55] <anonee> I mean it sounds good, let's face it
[18:56] <anonee> anyway.. :)
[18:56] <caersith> anonee: I'm guessing it has anything to do with the environment. looking at the man page -m ignore some env. and -s use the default shell (probably not bash)
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> lauri__, The channel quite good with this sort of problem though.
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> just no me, lol
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> not*
[18:59] <Jinxed-> My usbs don't seem to be mounting correctly on ubuntu 12.04
[19:00] <Jinxed-> It either hows up as mounted at /cdrom
[19:01] <Jinxed-> or not mounted
[19:01] <Jinxed-> when it is not mounted and I attempt to mount via disk utility I get deamon inhibited
[19:01] <Jinxed-> daemon
[19:01] <mario__> ix
[19:02] <abdullatif> Hİ
[19:02] <johnsmiththeman> hello
[19:02] <johnsmiththeman> i need some help
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> Jinxed-, Have you put them in fstab per-chance?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> !help | johnsmiththeman
[19:04] <abdullatif> wh change addiotinal drivers?
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> abdullatif, Can you re-state what the problem is?
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> johnsmiththeman, Tell the channel the issue for help. ;)
[19:05] <caersith> anonee: ignored my previous comment, misread -s with -S, it's probably because -m force to create a session, sorry can't help much I don't use screen.
[19:05] <johnsmiththeman> im having this super annoying wifi issue, I have a realtek RTL8188CE wifi card and for some reason my wifi is sucking hard. I can connect to the internet just fine, but it is super slow. If it even works at all. Most of the time it just doesnt load. I have tried downloading drivers from their website to no avail. I really need to get this working. If anyone knows any solutions it would be great. I have tried googling but no
[19:06] <abdullatif> hp 500 laptop , not dedected wireless driver or debian
[19:06] <abdullatif> But Ubuntu automatic dedected ipw driver
[19:06] <anonee> caersith thanx man
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> abdullatif, If you run lspci does it show the wireless card, if so post that info, what do mean debian, is it a install not showing?
[19:08] <abdullatif> debian not show ipw 2200 drvr
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> abdullatif, Is your operating system debian?
[19:08] <abdullatif> Yes
[19:09] <abdullatif> how install ipw-2200 debian
[19:09] <abdullatif> Sorry ı'm not actualy talking for english
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> abdullatif, Yuu want #debian this is ubuntu support. ;)
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> You*
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> abdullatif, There may be a debian channel in your native language if that helps.
[19:11] <abdullatif> Thank u wilee
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> abdullatif, No problem, good luck. ;)
[19:11] <Freey> git-annex shows internal sever error 128 when I try to install it on Ubuntu 13.0
[19:11] <Freey> how can I make it work on Ubuntu
[19:12] <Ale78GOT> Deian?
[19:12] <Freey> http://git-annex.branchable.com/install/
[19:12] <Freey> I tried installing from here
[19:13] <doomlord> Anyone know  of a way to swap - and _ on the keyboard i.e. pressing shift gets "-" and not pressing shift gets _ instead of the default.
[19:13] <flipper88_fl> Support wise how long is 12.04 goign to be supported for non server environments?
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> Freey, it is in the raring repo, you installing the tar?
[19:13] <doomlord> reason is to make this_case_style_more_comfortable_to_type
[19:13] <johnsmiththeman> well ill be baack in about an hour if someone has a solution
[19:13] <abdullatif> how add channel XChat ırc?
[19:13] <Freey> wilee-nilee, sorry no I did apt-get install git-annex
[19:14] <Freey> wilee-nilee, should I install the tar ?
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> Freey, Not sure then, myself, the more error details you have will help you if posted.
[19:15] <Nawfi> l2tp is a nightmore
[19:16] <Freey> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5926329/
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Freey, This is beyond my skill set. ;)
[19:17] <paul__> Hi. I'm the editor-in-chief of Ubuntu User magazine. We are looking for authors willing to write for us.
[19:17] <Freey> no problem, thanks
[19:18] <abdullatif> why turkish channel not actualy! damn it
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> Freey, Cool, just wanted to make sure you get help is all.
[19:18] <filmfan> good evening. are there any of you people in here that know a lot about lubuntu?
[19:18] <flipper88_fl> o problems mate found it 2017is that the =correct year for desktop/laptop as well as server?
[19:18] <Freey> wilee-nilee, they have a #git-annex in OFTC
[19:18] <Freey> asking there
[19:18] <reisio> filmfan: some do, some don't
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> abdullatif, /j #debian.tr
[19:20] <filmfan> I was wondering if there is a version of wildwine (hbo nordic) that works in lubuntu?
[19:20] <paul__> Serious offer. Paid work.
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> !spam | paul--__
[19:20] <paul__> No not spam at all.
[19:20] <MagePsycho> i want to search and replace in files .. how to search n replace?
[19:20] <paul__> Just not sure where to start looking.
[19:20] <StevenR> MagePsycho: from the commandline?
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> paul__, That is considered spam
[19:20] <MagePsycho> yes
[19:20] <MagePsycho> ssh
[19:20] <paul__> What is?
[19:21] <StevenR> MagePsycho: have a look at sed
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> paul__, What your doing here it is spam.
[19:21] <paul__> Ok. Whatever you say. Bye.
[19:21] <odd1> hey guys can i use an ntfs external partition as an output destination for a dd img file??
[19:21] <odd1> sort of like dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb/backup.image if sdb is an external ntfs drive
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> odd1, Of what?
[19:22] <Dr_willis> odd1,   you can put an image file onto a ntfs fs yes...
[19:22] <Dr_willis> or anywhere else you can write to.
[19:22] <odd1> ah, ok, thx
[19:22] <Dr_willis> and your dd command was totally wrong.
[19:23] <Dr_willis> and would erase your sdb
[19:23] <MagePsycho> StevenR i m new to linux.. can you help me
[19:23] <odd1> oO why?
[19:23] <Dr_willis> odd1,  look at it.. you are imageing TO a /dev/ device.. thats NOT writing a file TO the filesystem
[19:24] <Dr_willis> of=/media/ntfs-mountpoint/imagefile.img
[19:24] <odd1> so what should my of=? be?
[19:24] <Dr_willis> a FILESYSTEM.. not a device ;)
[19:24] <StevenR> MagePsycho: just... have a look at a sed starter guide online
[19:24] <Dr_willis> a place you can write files TO.
[19:24] <odd1> ouch too complex for me :(
[19:24] <Dr_willis> odd1,  if thats comples.. then you shouldebnt be touching dd. its rather stright forward
[19:24] <Dr_willis> your command was imageing a DEVICE to another DEVICE
[19:24] <StevenR> MagePsycho: you're also going to want to read about "regular expressions"
[19:24] <nyitnyit> hello why i can't update using repos from australia (eg iinet.net.au and aarnet.edu.au)? there are always missing files. but if i use repos from indonesia the update runs smoothly.
[19:24] <Dr_willis> not a DEVICE to a FILE
[19:25] <odd1> its kinda complex... but what's the nfts-mountpoint?
[19:25] <odd1> i get the media
[19:25] <Dr_willis> odd1,  whever you have YOUR ntfs drive mounted to.
[19:25] <Dr_willis> !mount
[19:25] <Nawfi> anyone have experience with l2tp?
[19:25] <Dr_willis> same path as if you where putting image file or other files on that ntfs drive
[19:26] <odd1> is there a dd gui btw? for newbies like me?
[19:26] <Dr_willis> odd1,  never seen one, never looked, never needed one
[19:26] <odd1> :)
[19:26] <nyitnyit> odd1: try unetbootin
[19:27] <MagePsycho> find ./ -type f -exec sed -i 's%base/dd%default/dd%g' {} \; --> will this search and replace base/dd -> default/dd ?
[19:27] <Dr_willis> there might be. but if you cant understand the differance btween a device and a file..  the gui would just let you destroy stuff easier
[19:27] <Dr_willis> odd1,  what are you trying to acomplish exactly?
[19:28] <odd1> i messed up my pc... installed zorin by (replace win xp), and it deleted both my xp partition and my data partition... now i need to make a dd image and get it on my main pc (win7) and try to salvage the data with photorec
[19:28] <odd1> atleast some of the data
[19:29] <nyitnyit> are aussie repos only for aussie? i can't update from indonesia using aussie repos
[19:29] <FuzzyThor> Can anyone help or point me into the right direction on creating a autostart script for teamspeak3 on my ubuntu x64 server
[19:30] <n0c> Anyone feel like helping me with an odd password problem?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> n0c, State the problem for help.
[19:31] <FuzzyThor> Can anyone help or point me into the right direction on creating a autostart script for a .sh file in a user directory on my ubuntu x64 server
[19:31] <n0c> I went into account settings to remove my password on my account (n0c).  Now when using sudo/etc, I get invalid password if I use my old password or none at all.
[19:32] <r1d4a3> thanks vavle
[19:32] <r1d4a3> for you workd
[19:32] <r1d4a3> 's
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> odd1, As a heads up ZorinOS is not supported here.
[19:32] <r1d4a3> :)
[19:32] <r1d4a3> :-p
[19:32] <n0c> so I rebooted into recovery, as root, set my password again, then rebooted, and it still didn't work.  Went back into account settings, had to set my password again?
[19:33] <odd1> wilee-nilee: yeah i know, but it's basically ubuntu... 13.04 i believe
[19:33] <joshu> I can get scanning to work without sudo by changing this SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", MODE="0664" to MODE 0666 in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> odd1, Does not matter.
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> n0c, Running without a password is not advised here.
[19:33] <r1d4a3> thanks ubuntu
[19:33] <r1d4a3> lol
[19:34] <n0c> Well, I certainly agree, but I'm still thinking it's some sort of bug.
[19:34] <r1d4a3> donate 1 dollar
[19:34] <r1d4a3> :)
[19:34] <X-Sleepy-X> !lol | r1d4a3
[19:34] <r1d4a3> sorry flood
[19:34] <FuzzyThor> I need to make a autostart script for a program
[19:34]  * r1d4a3 exit
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> n0c, I doubt that you have described a set of actions that are not normal.
[19:34] <joshu> instead of modifying the MODE for all USB devices, I tried to create a rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/40-brother-libsane.rules and added this SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="04f9", MODE="0666". However, for some reason this doesn't work
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> n0c, We have no idea what you have done really.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> !bash | FuzzyThor
[19:35] <n0c> wilee-nilee, well, I described it.  I removed the password from my account under "Account Settings" then lost the ability to perform actions as an administrator.
[19:35] <FuzzyThor> I am running a server
[19:36] <n0c> wilee-nilee, and when I restarted in recovery,  in a root shell, and used passwd n0c, set a password, booted back into Ubuntu, my password still didn't work in the terminal.
[19:36] <FuzzyThor> no gui
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> n0c, There is no way to remove the password from users that is part of any wiki from canonical.
[19:36] <flan> n0c, it's possible that your account is no longer a member of the sudoers group. Try "id n0c" and see if "sudo" shows up int he list of groups.
[19:37] <r1d4a3> working
[19:37] <X-Sleepy-X> !crontab | FuzzyThor
[19:38] <FuzzyThor> ubottu i have my server command-line open via ssh
[19:38] <n0c> wilee-nilee, I apologize, I didn't explain myself properly. I didn't remove my password, I simple set my account to log in without requiring a password.  (User Accounts -> Unlock -> Log in without a password)
[19:38] <joshu> ok problem solved after trial and error
[19:39] <flan> n0c, it's possible that your account is no longer a member of the sudoers group. Try "id n0c" and see if "sudo" shows up int he list of groups.
[19:40] <n0c> flan, gid=1000(n0c) groups=1000(n0c),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),117(nopasswdlogin),124(sambashare)
[19:41] <flan> n0c, then that is not the issue. Can you elaborate, specifcally, on what is failing?
[19:41] <n0c> Now  that I've enabled no passwd at login, I can't use any superuser commands (authentication failure)
[19:41] <n0c> If I re-enable password at login, I get my access back.
[19:42] <esing> Hi
[19:43] <reisio> hi
[19:43] <esing> If I install ubuntu 13.10 alpha and later 13.10 will be released properly, can I then just update the 13.10 alpha to the official release or may there be troubles?
[19:43] <esing> hi reisio
[19:43] <reisio> you can _and_ there may :)
[19:43] <esing> ^
[19:44] <reisio> none that you couldn't overcome, however
[19:44] <n0c> esing, usually the update will go through with no issues, but there is a possibility of something going wrong (rare).
[19:44] <esing> (I want to install ubuntu 13.10 because ubuntu 13.04 live usb isn't booting on the new laptop (haswell gpu), therefor I worry that if I install 13.04 I also get issues with booting after installation
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> esing, For help if needed till release on 13.10 #ubuntu+1
[19:45] <esing> Good to know, thanks
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> esing, That is magical thinking.
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:46] <goddard> how can i install LAMP without making it auto start on the system?
[19:46] <goddard> looking at a dev setup
[19:46] <reisio> does it do that by default?
[19:46] <esing> wilee-nilee Iam not sure if it's just a wrong boot parameter or missing driver for the haswell gpu. Since the live usb isn't booting the normal installation should behave the same I guess :)
[19:47] <X-Sleepy-X> !init | goddard
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> esing, Is this a dualboot and if so what's the other OS?
[19:50] <esing> wilee-nilee Yes it should be dual boot. The other OS is Windows8
[19:50] <esing> And it's EFI
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | esing Have you looked here.
[19:51] <wonton_> I need some help.  Trying to make this.  http://uncommonsense2000.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-make-hybrid-android-liveusb-and.html  Need a recommendation for a ~4+gb linux live dvd, compressed, that I can both use to make this and use in general as a bootable linux dvd. :)
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> esing, I did see various problems on the web with that gpu, but that uefi is more fun than you should be allowed to have.
[19:52] <wonton_> I've never used linux before, hence why I'm asking in an ubuntu forum, I hear it's easier to use than other distros.
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> wonton_, Depends on the user realy.
[19:53] <johnsmiththeman> alright im back
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> wonton_, I would use a usb.
[19:54] <wonton_> I'm a computer nerd with dos and windows experience, but no linux experience.  I plan to code, develop, use flash if possible, use google chrome if possible, etc.   Tools I would like (in no particular order), include compilers, mono, a web browser, flash, etc.
[19:55] <johnsmiththeman> im having this super annoying wifi issue, I have a realtek RTL8188CE wifi card and for some reason my wifi is sucking hard. I can connect to the internet just fine, but it is super slow. If it even works at all. Most of the time it just doesnt load. I have tried downloading drivers from their website to no avail. I really need to get this working. If anyone knows any solutions it would be great. I have tried googling but no
[19:55] <wonton_> I have an intel mac with no hard drive, it may not boot from USB... hmm... I also have TONS of spare DVD's (and yes, a few flash drives)... but mostly DVD's, so regardless, I will make at least one DVD.
[19:55] <esing> wilee-nilee Hm, so I better try it with 13.10, considering the haswell gpu issues
[19:55] <johnsmiththeman> im using ubuntu 12.04
[19:55] <navinod> wonton: make a dvd and try it out
[19:55] <wonton_> You seem to misunderstand, THE LIVEDVD IS NECESSARY TO FORMAT THE USB FLASH DRIVE PROPERLY FOR BOOTING.
[19:56] <wonton_> I am merely asking for your help selecting a good one so I don't have to throw it out after.
[19:56] <wonton_> Sorry for yelling.
[19:56] <goddard> reisio: yes when you install it .. they assume you are setting it up as a 24/7 server
[19:56] <auronandace> wonton_: we support ubuntu here, we don't make other distro recommendations, ask in ##linux
[19:57] <navinod> try lubuntu or ubuntu or xubuntu, they are all easy to pick up
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> wonton_, You have hardly even come close to explaining you goal here
[19:57] <wonton_> I'm asking if anyone has an Ubuntu live DVD recommendation.
[19:57] <r1d4a3> ^-^
[19:57] <histo> wonton_: go to ubuntu.com download and burn to dvd
[19:57] <johnsmiththeman> is anyone able to help me?
[19:58] <wonton_> I need to use a linux live CD to format my flash drive.  I am looking for the most useful ubuntu distro.  Most of the ones on ubuntu are about 1.6gb, way too small.   I'm looking for something I'll get more life out of, a LiveDVD distro that will fill the DVD. :)  I want one packed to the brim.
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> johnsmiththeman, Those cards can be problematic.
[19:58] <reisio> goddard: good times
[19:58] <histo> johnsmiththeman: what happened when you tried the drivers from realtek?
[19:58] <wonton_> Are there any 3+gb Ubuntu distros?
[19:58] <reisio> goddard: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20disable%20apache%20start :)
[19:59] <johnsmiththeman> they didnt make any difference that i can tell
[19:59] <auronandace> wonton_: none supported here no
[19:59] <histo> johnsmiththeman: perhaps an antenna issue?
[19:59] <johnsmiththeman> no it was working fine under windows 7 yesterday
[19:59] <navinod> wonton you can download a live cd and download the tools you need
[19:59] <r1d4a3> sectools.org
[19:59] <auronandace> !uck | wonton_
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> esing, I would not assume a beta has better use for the gpu, but thats me.
[20:00] <histo> johnsmiththeman: maybe try a newer kernel?
[20:00] <r1d4a3> http://ubuntu-fr.org/
[20:01] <ad134> i was wondering if it's possible to publish a website on ubuntu one
[20:01] <johnsmiththeman> How would i do that? I just ran all the updates from update manager
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> r1d4a3, Stop posting garbage.
[20:02] <esing> wilee-nilee Hm, I read this article https://spicious.com/sony-vaio-pro-11-with-ubuntu.html and there is this information "To install Ubuntu, you need to grab the Ubuntu 13.10 daily image. The 13.04 image doesn't correctly setup the GPU at boot. "
[20:03] <esing> " doesn't correctly setup the GPU at boot. " <- Iam not sure if he's talking about the graphic boot parameters or actually X configuration
[20:03] <r1d4a3> 2 $
[20:03] <r1d4a3> wilee-nilee,
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> esing, could be right could be wrong it is one webpage on the net
[20:04] <esing> Hm, ye. I should try out then and see :)
[20:04] <r1d4a3> windows donnate
[20:04] <johnsmiththeman> what is the newest kernel version?
[20:04] <wonton_> Now comes the fun part. XD  Well, since I need to use Uck to make my livecd, does anyone have a suggestion of which LiveCD/Live dvd I should download to boot from/download and make Uck?  The most generally useful one.  (Recursion. XD)  I'm heading over to linux, if anyone has any livedvd recommendations, you may reply here, in ##linux, or via direct message.  Thanks.  Also, intro guides to using ubuntu would be appreciated.
[20:05] <r1d4a3> thi's work men wroking for the software
[20:05] <auronandace> !info linux-image-generic precise | johnsmiththeman
[20:06] <johnsmiththeman> ahh okay thanks
[20:08] <johnsmiththeman> okay so i seem to be runing 3.5.0-37-generic
[20:10] <wonton_> Linux channel doesn't seem to be working either.  Where can I find a list of all the ubuntu ISO's?
[20:10] <johnsmiththeman1> sorry my wifi gave out
[20:11] <auronandace> !download | wonton_
[20:11] <histo> johnsmiththeman1: there are ppas you can try for updated kernels to see if that helps.
[20:11] <histo> wonton_: distrowatch.com
[20:12] <johnsmiththeman1> how would i do that? I am pretty new to linux
[20:13] <ctugt> can someone recommend me a goof free irc for osx
[20:13] <wonton_> thanks histo
[20:13] <auronandace> ctugt: no, this is ubuntu support
[20:13] <ctugt> sorry
[20:13] <ctugt> wron connection
[20:13] <k1l> ctugt: can you undeline that ubuntu in your question? :)
[20:13] <odd1> Dr_willis: is this good? dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/ubuntu/temp/backups/hddimage.img
[20:13] <MonkeyDu1t> ctugt  try #macos
[20:13] <ctugt> thnx
[20:13] <ctugt> ;)
[20:14] <Dr_willis> odd1,  if thats a proper /media/ path.. and you will want to use the bs= option to speed it up
[20:14] <odd1> Dr_willis: /dev/sda is my internal disk i'm backing up and backups is a folder on my external drive
[20:14] <Dr_willis> bs=4M or similer  most every dd example does that
[20:14] <Dr_willis> odd1,  but that IS a valid path or not? can you cd to it?
[20:14] <odd1> yes i tried
[20:14] <odd1> ls and everything
[20:14] <odd1> it's good
[20:15] <Dr_willis> and you do have enough space there? ;P
[20:15] <odd1> :D
[20:15] <wonton_> Ubuntu studio looks interesting.
[20:15] <odd1> 120gb or so
[20:15] <odd1> and my drive is 80gb
[20:15] <odd1> the internal one
[20:15] <odd1> bs= will give me the "empty" parts too?
[20:16] <Dr_willis> dd will always give you the empty parts
[20:16] <Dr_willis> thats how it works
[20:16] <odd1> ah, so what exactly is bs?
[20:16] <Dr_willis> block size
[20:16] <Dr_willis> see 'man dd' and the 10000's of dd examples online for its ussage
[20:17] <Dr_willis> use bs, or else speeds will be very very slow.
[20:17] <th0r> Dr_willis: on the assumption that /media is on /dev/sda, won't that create a loop where dd is reading the output as part of the input?
[20:17] <anddam> hi, is there a PPC specific channel?
[20:17] <Dr_willis> th0r,  dd reads the Device directly. not the filesystem
[20:17] <Dr_willis> odd1,  you are NOT imageing the drive you are booting from are you?
[20:18] <odd1> no ofc
[20:18] <reisio> anddam: /msg alis list *bunt*ppc*
[20:18] <odd1> sda to sdc
[20:18] <th0r> Dr_willis: and that is why I listen in here.....something new every day <smile>. Thanks
[20:18] <odd1> sda is 80gb sdc is 400gb
[20:18] <Dr_willis> odd1,  and what do you plan on doing with this 80gb image file?
[20:18] <reisio> anddam: time to switch to Debian perhaps
[20:18] <anddam> reisio: "end of output", yep
[20:18] <odd1> Dr_willis: i'll mount it on windows...
[20:19] <odd1> and then use photorec to try to recover anything
[20:19] <Dr_willis> well good luck with that.
[20:19] <odd1> http://www.osforensics.com/tools/mount-disk-images.html
[20:19] <odd1> i'll mount it with this
[20:19] <Dr_willis> it might want an image of /dev/sda  or it may be ok with /dev/sda1    but i guess trying sda first will be ok.
[20:20] <odd1> ya i was also a bit confused with that but imho thewhole disk is better
[20:20] <odd1> hopefully i get something back
[20:20] <histo> odd1: photorec is available in linux
[20:21] <histo> odd1: it's part of the testdisk package
[20:21] <anddam> I'll just ask: I'm trying to boot an old powerbook G4 with an ubuntu image from USB stick, I'm not sure how to make the USb stick bootable, the wiki instructions are a bit confusing and result in a APT device with an HFS partition that OF cannot access
[20:22] <odd1> histo: yeah i know, i also downloaded it on hiren, but win7 is my main pc, so there isnt rly much of a difference
[20:22] <odd1> and i tried running it on win and it works
[20:22] <odd1> Dr_willis: dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/ubuntu/temp/backups/hddimage.img bs=4M
[20:23] <odd1> so this is the whole command?
[20:23] <Dr_willis> you will need sudo rights of course. ;)
[20:23] <odd1> ah yes :)
[20:23] <Dr_willis> try it and see - it will take it some time to finish
[20:23] <odd1> ok, thanks!
[20:23] <Dr_willis> you can watch the size from antoehr terminal and see it grow
[20:23] <histo> odd1: does this drive have bad sectors?
[20:23] <Dr_willis> watch 'ls -l /media/ubuntu/whatever/whatever/whatever.img'
[20:24] <Dr_willis> if the disk has bad sectors or other hardware issues.. you should be using 'ddrescue' i imagine
[20:24] <r1d4a3> +1 for all banks's acount
[20:24] <daftykins> anddam: PPC? nasty.
[20:24] <odd1> histo: nope, not that i know of... i just messed it up by installing zorin os over it
[20:25] <Dr_willis> i will honestly be suprised if any data is recoverable at all.
[20:25] <odd1> should i use spinrite first on it?
[20:25] <r1d4a3> .txt ?
[20:25] <r1d4a3> name.txt
[20:25] <Dr_willis> r1d4a3,  you are rambling on about somthing?
[20:25] <lersch> Hello. I used this script (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ListInstalledPackagesByDate) to generate a list of installed packages. I installed Mint in this computer in March, but the dates of the first packages installations dates to 2012. Why?
[20:25] <histo> odd1: ahh
[20:26] <bekks> lersch: We have no clue what Mint does regarding package dates.
[20:26] <histo> odd1: what was on the disk originally before zorin?
[20:26] <r1d4a3> name firstname.txt
[20:26] <histo> !mint | lersch
[20:26] <lersch> ok
[20:26] <lersch> thank you
[20:26] <odd1> histo: winxp=30gb/data=50gb both ntfs partitions
[20:27] <odd1> now zorin 80gb one ext partition
[20:27] <r1d4a3> 6667 ?
[20:27] <histo> odd1: well testdisk will probably be able to recover you data partition.
[20:27] <Dr_willis> the windows partions were deleted and remade into a single ext4 partion, and you now want to try to recover the windows data..
[20:27] <histo> !who | r1d4a3
[20:28] <odd1> Dr_willis: yes
[20:28]  * r1d4a3 no an...
[20:28] <odd1> Dr_willis: photorec says it can do that...
[20:28] <Dr_willis> odd1,  i will be suprised if it works
[20:28] <k1l> !guidelines > r1d4a3
[20:28] <odd1> Dr_willis: PhotoRec ignores the file system; this way it works even if the file system is severely damaged.
[20:29] <odd1> from their wiki
[20:29] <ALLTHECODE> What to do if installing Mir made your machine unusable? Just black screen when booting.
[20:29] <Dr_willis> ALLTHECODE,  try text mode.
[20:29] <MonkeyDu1t> is Mir stable?
[20:29] <Dr_willis> ALLTHECODE,  and if that fails.. live cd, and chroot and repair
[20:29] <ALLTHECODE> Dr_willis: you mean recovery mode?
[20:29] <johnsmiththeman> alright
[20:29] <Dr_willis> !text
[20:29] <OerHeks> MonkeyDu1t, no, xMir is not stable yet
[20:29] <johnsmiththeman> so i just updated to the newest kernel and it still isnt working
[20:29] <ALLTHECODE> Dr_willis: will that work if I had been using encryption?
[20:29] <k1l> ALLTHECODE: wait some time. it did last some time in the first boot for me. but if nothing helps go to tty1 and remove that ppa with ppa-purge
[20:30] <Dr_willis> ALLTHECODE,  no idea.  i dont use encryption.
[20:30] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 thrugh f6 may get you to a console also.
[20:30] <ALLTHECODE> k1l: simply removing the ppa will uninstall?
[20:30] <Dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[20:30] <k1l> ALLTHECODE: no. i said ppa-purge which is a remove program
[20:31] <ALLTHECODE> ok
[20:31] <movan2011> :window log on
[20:31] <ALLTHECODE> thank you I will try
[20:31] <anddam> daftykins: it's actually tidier than x86, it just happens to have failed from an evolutionary POV
[20:32] <johnsmiththeman> so i dont know what to do
[20:32] <johnsmiththeman> shits messed up
[20:32] <histo> Dr_willis: it will recover stuff from past the zorin data just fine.
[20:32] <daftykins> anddam: i was more thinking it's a nasty ancient system to try and make use of in 2013.
[20:32] <johnsmiththeman> wifi isnt working at all now
[20:32] <peyam> Hi, is there any program similar to "windows experience" wher I can see how my hardware is in linux?
[20:32] <johnsmiththeman> i can connect and thats it
[20:32] <johnsmiththeman> pages dont load or anything
[20:32] <histo> peyam: boot live cd
[20:32] <peyam> johnsmiththeman, what is the issue?
[20:32] <peyam> histo, what?
[20:32] <johnsmiththeman> my wifi
[20:33] <johnsmiththeman> is being stupid
[20:33] <johnsmiththeman> i have a realtek RTL8188CE
[20:33] <johnsmiththeman> and i can connect to my network
[20:33] <peyam> yes and the issue is?
[20:33] <johnsmiththeman> but thats it
[20:33] <johnsmiththeman> pages dont load
[20:33] <johnsmiththeman> my connection will drop randomly
[20:33] <peyam> what do you run? ubuntu?
[20:33] <histo> peyam: you can just boot a live cd and see if your hardware works
[20:33] <johnsmiththeman> yes ubuntu 12.04
[20:34] <peyam> histo, do you know what windows experience is? it gives cores to your hardware fron 1 to 7,9 depends on how good it is
[20:34] <histo> johnsmiththeman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203798/realtek-rtl8188ce-wireless-is-slow
[20:35] <histo> johnsmiththeman: here's another http://askubuntu.com/questions/205575/12-10-x64-rtl8188ce-intermittent-slow-internet-connection
[20:35] <histo> peyam: cores?
[20:35] <johnsmiththeman> thanks
[20:35] <johnsmiththeman> i already tried that
[20:35] <johnsmiththeman> but ill try again with the new kernel
[20:35] <histo> peyam: your hardware either works or it doesn't. I'm not sure what you are after
[20:35] <peyam> johnsmiththeman, it could be a router issue as well
[20:36] <histo> johnsmiththeman: the second link I gave you had some options that people posted worked.
[20:36] <johnsmiththeman> well the thing is it worked fine with windows 7 yesterday
[20:36] <peyam> histo, if you google windows experience you will understan it
[20:36] <johnsmiththeman> and my ipad is working fine with it
[20:36] <esing> Does ubuntu (unity) have touchscreen support?
[20:36] <histo> peyam: from what you explained it seems pretty pointless
[20:36] <peyam> johnsmiththeman, yes.. my ubuntu couses me the same problem.. Im forced to restart the router everytime
[20:36] <peyam> histo, no!
[20:37] <planete> hi
[20:37] <histo> peyam: yes!  Don't try and confuse windows with linux
[20:37] <peyam> histo, sir! I am not a newbie!
[20:37] <johnsmiththeman> well this sucks hahah
[20:37] <LuckySMack> has anyone here installed raring on the surface? the install went fine but the wifi is unreliable and it shows the list of network 3 times.
[20:37] <histo> peyam: Boot a live cd and see if your hardware works.  If you want to benchmark your hardware there are tools for that.
[20:37] <johnsmiththeman> i have no idea how to fix this
[20:38] <peyam> histo, I  m searching for program that scores my hardware and tell me how good they are!
[20:38] <histo> johnsmiththeman: Try the second link I gave you. Or search askubuntu.com for solutions
[20:38] <histo> peyam: So you want to benchmark your hardware.  "windows experience" doesn't do that
[20:38] <peyam> johnsmiththeman, http://kurdiskingenjor.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/wifi-is-too-slow-in-xubuntu-ubuntu/
[20:38] <peyam> histo, okej. thank you for ur time
[20:39] <peyam> johnsmiththeman, http://kurdiskingenjor.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/router-doesnt-work-sometimes/
[20:39] <johnsmiththeman> alright ill try these. Thanks.
[20:41] <MrKaliman> Hello all, can somebody help me with my ubuntu 12.03 installation on my Dell Latitude E5400? After 10 minutes the fan starts to spin and stays always on. Sensors showing me that there is no high tempature
[20:42] <peyam> MrKaliman, have you checked your bios?
[20:42] <MrKaliman> Peyam, I upgraded my BIOS to the latest release
[20:42] <peyam> and the settings?
[20:42] <peyam> what does the fan level say?
[20:42] <MrKaliman> peyam: No specific settings found for fan
[20:42] <peyam> hmm
[20:42] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[20:43] <MrKaliman> I already installed sensors, no high tempature mentioned
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> MrKaliman, Can you run this and post the output. lsb_release -a
[20:44] <peyam> he said 13.04
[20:44] <MrKaliman> No LSB modules are available.
[20:44] <MrKaliman> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[20:44] <MrKaliman> Description:	Ubuntu 13.04
[20:44] <MrKaliman> Release:	13.04
[20:44] <MrKaliman> Codename:	raring
[20:44] <FloodBot1> MrKaliman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <peyam> MrKaliman, Did you follow the recommended "YES/NO" answers in lm-sensors?
[20:45] <MrKaliman> Yep, everything answered as YES
[20:45] <peyam> no "No"s?
[20:46] <MrKaliman> indeed, no "NO's" :-)
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> peyam, It says 12.03 first post.
[20:46] <peyam> there is no 12.03 you should know that :P
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> no 13.04 before you tried to correct me
[20:46] <peyam> sory
[20:47] <MrKaliman> wilee-nilee: sorry it was 13.04 was a typo
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> details are the key here.
[20:47] <LuckySMack> anyone in here using ubuntu on the surface pro?
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> LuckySMack, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=surface+pro
[20:52] <reisio> ironicly one of the least problematic tablets to put a free Unix on
[20:52] <reisio> ironicaaaallly
[20:52] <Freey> lol
[20:52] <LuckySMack> yea the install went great and it runs really well on the surface. just wifi it really glitchy
[20:53] <MrKaliman> Current tempature status: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5926656/
[20:59]  * r1d4a3 ZzZzzzz
[20:59] <reisio> agreed
[21:02] <rokas__> Hello, can somebody help me, I need to append incrementing index in each line of the file, I'm using this: "for n in {1..389}; do sed 's/$/'$n'/' seriesss.txt ; done" but seams it adds same text to every line. Thanks a lot :)
[21:04] <k1l> rokas__: you could ask in #bash
[21:07] <FroMaster> Looking for advise... Wanting to build a public facing LAMP webserver thats running current packages managed via apt-get (not source) 12.04 LTS packages are too old. Is running 13.04 a good idea? I'm coming from Gentoo where i'm always running the latest and greatist with minimal effort
[21:07] <ikonia> FroMaster: why are they too old ?
[21:07] <bekks> FroMaster: Running LTS on a public webserver is a far better idea than 13.04.
[21:08] <FroMaster> Are security fixes backported?
[21:09] <bekks> Yes.
[21:09] <ikonia> security fixes are and critical bug fixes
[21:10] <FroMaster> Will 12.04 LTS ever get upgraded to apache2 2.24.x before 14.04 LTS?
[21:10] <ikonia> FroMaster: very doubtful
[21:11] <ikonia> FroMaster: why is 2.2.24 important to you ?
[21:11] <FroMaster> not 2.24, I ment 2.4
[21:11] <ikonia> why is 2.4 important to you ?
[21:13] <FroMaster> ikonia: its been awhile but remembered I needed to upgrade for an application we're developing.
[21:13] <ikonia> I'd be very surprised by that
[21:15] <johnsmiththeman> well
[21:15] <ikonia> FroMaster: the 2.4 brand was only released a few days ago, so I'd be very surpried if it had "been a while" and it was "required"
[21:15] <FroMaster> ikonia: I believe it was 2.4's modules - mod_remoteip and mod_ratelimit
[21:15] <johnsmiththeman> i did all the stuff in the links
[21:15] <johnsmiththeman> and it didnt work
[21:16] <fdhsjkfh> Hello! Why is installing Ubuntu on a MacBook so awkward?
[21:16] <johnsmiththeman> histo: I tried all the stuff and it didnt work
[21:16] <johnsmiththeman> Thanks for trying
[21:17] <deadweasel> fdhsjkfh: i don't these guys can fix subjective issues.  maybe some specifics about your problem?
[21:17] <deadweasel> *think
[21:18] <fdhsjkfh> deadweasel: Well... it's more of a post installation issue. Like, everything seems so slow, and my MacBook gets really hot. :/
[21:18] <histo> johnsmiththeman: then you need to seek new drivers from realtek or use a different chipset
[21:18] <ikonia> !mac | fdhsjkfh
[21:19] <fdhsjkfh> ikonia: Duh!
[21:19] <knabber> I've recently updated from 12.10 to 13.04, my framerate in a particular game i play in wine dropped from 40fps to 8fps. I double checked the version of the driver and it's the newest. My GPU is a Intel Iron Lake. Does have the same issue or does anyone know what the problem might be?
[21:19] <ikonia> fdhsjkfh: ?
[21:19] <fdhsjkfh> ikonia: ?
[21:19] <ikonia> fdhsjkfh: what do you mean "Duh!"
[21:19] <fdhsjkfh> ikonia: Guess! :)
[21:19] <ikonia> fdhsjkfh: I don't know, hence why I'm asking
[21:19] <Ozelsin> Ulnn Burda Turkçe Kürtçe Býlen Yokmu.
[21:20] <fdhsjkfh> deadweasel: Do you know why that happens?
[21:20] <histo> knabber: wine version difference?
[21:20] <OerHeks> fdhsjkfh, macbook .. hot.. see the mactel pages for the PPA with fanspeedcontrol
[21:20] <ikonia> fdhsjkfh: have you read/checked that page ?
[21:21] <knabber> hist: checked that aswell still the same as before
[21:21] <histo> fdhsjkfh: it's awkward because mac uses a 32bit efi system for some god awefull reason
[21:32] <hyprvx> if an application is open, but the window isn't visible and there's no icon on the launcher or taskbar, how can I open an application window for the application?
[21:32] <Azis> hi
[21:35] <jaenie> hi all, i found a PPA for getting php 5.3.10 on a 10.04 system.  I used it as instructed, but in the end I didn't see any updates, I'm guessing it went to the official repos to get 5.3.3 binaries.  I'm guessing this is because the unofficial PPA was meant for 10.04 and I am running 10.10?  Is there a way to fake the PPA to give me the updates?
[21:35] <jaenie> beign that 10.04 is so far out of updates, I'm guessing 10.10 and 10.04 are fairly convergent by now, no?
[21:35] <ikonia> jaenie: sounds like you've made a huge mess of your machine
[21:36] <jaenie> don't think so it works fine... it just ignored the new ppa
[21:36] <ikonia> you're meant to disable PPA' and remove software before upgrading
[21:36] <jaenie> yes, as I said, i went through the instructions
[21:36] <jaenie> disable which ppa? the official one?
[21:37] <hyprvx> 10.10 is out of support totally, but 10.04 is still in support for servers only. I'd recommending updating to 12.04 or newer and then trying again, unless your computer is too old for the newer versions
[21:37] <ikonia> jaenie: yes, disable ALL PPA's
[21:37] <ikonia> and 3rd party repos
[21:37] <ikonia> and remove any software supplied by them
[21:37] <jaenie> hyprvx, i wish i could
[21:37] <jaenie> ikonia, why?
[21:37] <ikonia> jaenie: because the software can cause conflicts
[21:37] <hyprvx> jaenie, what's the problem when you update?
[21:37] <jaenie> as I said, i dont think anything was installed by them
[21:38] <ikonia> jaenie: it has to be - otherwise you wouldn't be using them
[21:38] <jaenie> hyprvx, 12.04 is chock full of multi-head problems
[21:38] <hyprvx> 12.1 or 13.04?
[21:38] <jaenie> ikonia, i never said i was using software from the ppa, as I did say, i still have the only ones in place, even after removing, adding the new ppa, and then uninstalling
[21:38] <ikonia> hyprvx: well, as he said 12.04 I assume he measn 12.04
[21:38] <jaenie> 12.04.02
[21:39] <jaenie> i did not say I have 12.04
[21:39] <Guest10359> hi
[21:39] <jaenie> i said, 10.04
[21:39] <ikonia> jaenie: then you didn't remove them for th upgrade
[21:39] <hyprvx> I was asking if he had tried 12.10 or 13.04
[21:39] <ikonia> jaenie: for the multi-head problems - you did
[21:39] <ikonia> jaenie: that was the reference
[21:39] <ikonia> hyprvx: he said 12.04
[21:39] <ikonia> 22:38 < jaenie> hyprvx, 12.04 is chock full of multi-head problems
[21:39] <Guest10359> help
[21:39] <ikonia> hence why he's not using 12.04
[21:39] <ikonia> Guest10359: bravo, great problem description
[21:39] <Guest10359> i want to register please
[21:39] <jaenie> ikonia:  remove old php related items, add ppa, update, upgrade.  that's the process. stil have the same php i had before I started.
[21:40] <hyprvx> and I asked if he had tried 12.10 or 13.04 as well as 12.04
[21:40] <ikonia> jaenie: yes, that's not what you're meant to do, but it's too late now
[21:40] <Guest10359> sorry iKonia
[21:40] <ikonia> hyprvx: they are not LTS
[21:40] <jaenie> ikonia, yes, your quoting me doesnt say that I actually upgraded.  Some time ago, on another partition i attempted, and dropped the project after multiple attempts to get multi-head working as desired.
[21:41] <OerHeks> !register > Guest 10359
[21:41] <ikonia> jaenie: ok, then you've used a 10.04 repo with 10.10 - just as bad
[21:41] <OerHeks> !register > Guest10359
[21:41] <jaenie> but its actually done nothing
[21:41] <ikonia> jaenie: thankfully the packages are problem locked to the version
[21:41] <jaenie> since when reinstalling the software, after removing and adding the new ppa, the software came from official repos
[21:42] <jaenie> Version: 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.10
[21:42] <jaenie> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[21:42] <jaenie> that's from $ aptitude show php5
[21:42] <ikonia> jaenie: we are getting a bit away from the problem, sorry, what is it you want to achieve
[21:43] <jaenie> ikonia, to use those 10.04 php5.3.10 binaries, or even better to find a PPA with 5.3.10 for 10.10
[21:43] <ikonia> jaenie: don't mix versions
[21:43] <jaenie> i have been unable to find a PPA for 10.10 and obviously have not been able to hack it with the 10.04
[21:43] <jaenie> at this point, i don't care about mixing versions
[21:44] <ikonia> jaenie: well you really sould
[21:44] <jaenie> well, aside from the religious discussion, is there a way to accomplish this, per my initial question?
[21:44] <ikonia> jaenie: no-one is developing/packaging for 10.10 as it's EOL, so I'd consider trying to plan to move to a supported version
[21:44] <jaenie> ikonia, that would take us back to the other discussion regarding 12.04
[21:44] <ikonia> !info php5 lucid
[21:45] <ikonia> !info php5 maverick
[21:45] <ikonia> !info php5 maverick
[21:45] <dieogo> !info php5 maverick
[21:46] <jaenie> so you wont answer on philosophical grounds or do not know the answer on how to get the 10.04 php to give up the goods?
[21:46] <OerHeks> 10.10 maverick is deleted from the factoid?
[21:46] <ikonia> dirtydaw1: repos removed
[21:46] <ikonia> OerHeks: looks like as the repos have been archived, yes
[21:46] <ikonia> jaenie: I am answering
[21:47] <ikonia> jaenie: no-one is developing repos for 10.10 as the repos are archived, so you're best bet is to plan an upgrade to a supported version and work out the problems
[21:47] <jaenie> you'd told me to do something orthagonol to the actual problem, which I've said I cannot do, as 12.04.02 is rife with multi-head problems
[21:47] <jaenie> i know that would be the "best bet" except it doesnt work for other reasons
[21:47] <ikonia> jaenie: I've not told you something orthagonol at all
[21:47] <jaenie> so, i'm ok with doing what's not the "best bet"
[21:47] <ikonia> jaenie: what others reasons, those are (hopefully) reasons we can work through as the distro is supported
[21:48] <piranha_portugal> wath do ppl think of shodan ?
[21:48] <basso> anyone else gotten their google account password changed?
[21:48] <ikonia> piranha_portugal: of wht ?
[21:48] <FleaFlicker> why are you not building php5 from source?
[21:48] <ikonia> basso: nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:48] <jaenie> ikonia, i've already spend enough time trying to get 12.04 to work.  i don't have the time.
[21:48] <ikonia> FleaFlicker: because that is a huge problem
[21:48] <ikonia> jaenie: well, 10.10 is EOL so there are no repos
[21:48] <jaenie> FleaFlicker, because if i could get the ansewr on how to trip aptitude to use the 10.04 ppa on my 10.10 system, i'd be done by now
[21:48] <jaenie> ikonia ^^^^^
[21:48] <ikonia> jaenie: you can't
[21:49] <ikonia> jaenie: the whole point are the packages are locked
[21:49] <jaenie> egads, its like i'm on windows
[21:49] <ikonia> jaenie: it's nothing like that
[21:49] <ikonia> don't be silly
[21:50] <MonkeyDu1t> jaenie  you're trying to make something work that's 'dead', don't reject every and any advice you're getting here
[21:50] <jaenie> MonkeyDu1t, not sure if you're following along here, but i haven't.  no one's given me advice yet that isn't a road I've already travelled
[21:51] <jaenie> the rise of the meta...
[21:51] <ikonia> jaenie: you could always contact the PPA maintainer and see if he'd consdier rebuilding and packaging for 10.10
[21:51] <piranha_portugal> log in
[21:51] <hyprvx> quick question, I installed Skype, and the icon isn't showing up on the taskbar, any way I can force it to?
[21:51] <ikonia> jaenie: it's very doubtful, but worth a punt if you're locked into the position you suggest your in
[21:51] <jaenie> that's not a bad idea
[21:52] <jaenie> i wish it were only a suggestion of a situation
[21:52] <ikonia> jaenie: just so you're aware a lot of the multihead issues have been found and resolved/acceptable work around in place
[21:53] <ikonia> hence why I suggested working through problems on a supported distro, but that of course is your call
[21:54] <jaenie> ikonia, i wasted hours and hours in the past couple of months trying those out, waiting for updates, using edgers, compiliing on my own, etc, etc.  its quite the comedy.  FINALLY i get it all working just right with xfce... only to find the mouse gets stuck on the primary screen.  known issues, multi-reported. no solution.
[21:54] <jaenie> and its not an xfce issue
[21:54] <jaenie> and it happens on ATI and Nvidia
[21:54] <Azis> helo
[21:54] <ikonia> I'm not going to argue it - it's up to you,
[21:54] <Azis> lets distrurb you
[21:54] <jaenie> what's up to me?
[21:55] <Azis> http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f149/138283d1268539537-self-castration-cast.jpg
[21:55] <ikonia> jaenie: how you move on
[21:56] <jaenie> ikonia, if only there were viable options.
[21:56] <jaenie> anyhow, thanks for trying, all
[21:56] <c0nn3x0r> anybody home? what channel it is?
[21:56] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: this is ubuntu, for ubuntu support
[21:57] <c0nn3x0r> hmm.. is for developing?
[21:57] <Dr_willis> 'for developing' is a broad topic
[21:58] <c0nn3x0r> if support? what must i do? i just want to chit chat ;)
[21:58] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: try the channel #defocus for that
[21:58] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: /join #defocus
[21:58] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: that's a random chat channel
[21:58] <Shadowandlight> is it possible to roll back from django 1.6 to 1.4.3?
[21:58] <c0nn3x0r> okeoke,, but i think.. #ubuntu channel is the best :D
[21:59] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: how do you know, as you didn't even know what channel you where in
[21:59] <histo> !info django
[21:59] <kc__> help, everytime i boot ubuntu it hangs at a purple screen, i am using a live cd now
[21:59] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: this channel is for ubuntu discussion, so if you can keep with that, you'll be fine
[21:59] <histo> !nomodeset | kc__
[21:59] <c0nn3x0r> ikonia : cause, its my firs moment i open X-IRC ;)
[22:00] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: right, so I doubt you know ubuntu channel is best, if this is your first time
[22:00] <kc__> ubuntu forums are down, and ive tried replacing a line with nomodeset in a text file and it didnt work
[22:00] <Dr_willis> kc__,  you did try the nomodeset option at the grub menu?
[22:01] <kc__> yes
[22:01] <Dr_willis> and if you mean altersed the /etc/default/grub file you DID run sudo update-grub after editing the file?
[22:01] <c0nn3x0r> yups. cause, the chatters is good ;)
[22:01] <c0nn3x0r> ikonia : like u?
[22:01] <Dr_willis> theres also the text option to get to a console
[22:01] <c0nn3x0r> wkwk
[22:01] <Dr_willis> !text
[22:01] <c0nn3x0r> what do i must for mention ur name? ikonia?
[22:01] <clue_h> hi does anyone know of a cli dictionary tool that does not require a server setup like dict, and is not sdvc
[22:01] <c0nn3x0r> ping
[22:02] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: the topic of this channel is ubuntu discussion, can you please keep to that
[22:02] <c0nn3x0r> oohh.. oke, oke..
[22:03] <c0nn3x0r> if u have a n ubuntu OS for first time, what first you do for develop it?
[22:03] <goddard> how can i install LAMP without making it auto start on the system?
[22:03] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: learn a programming language
[22:03] <ikonia> goddard: install it, then disable it
[22:03] <goddard> ikonia: i was hoping for a way I can turn it off and on semi-quickly
[22:04] <ikonia> goddard: you can, it's 1 command
[22:04] <goddard> ikonia: how are the start up services registered?
[22:04] <ikonia> (or change to 1 config file)
[22:04] <ikonia> goddard: using upstart
[22:04] <ozzloy> goddard, sudo service apache start/stop
[22:04] <c0nn3x0r> hhmm... u mean, bash? but, how if installing any software? like apt-get commands?
[22:04] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: https://help.ubuntu.com explains how to use it
[22:04] <ozzloy> or maybe it's apache2
[22:05] <Foxandxss> Hi, excuse me, I am not an ubuntu user but I got a ubuntu server vps. There is no wheel group?
[22:05] <c0nn3x0r> hhmm.. but i dont interested for open it ;)
[22:05] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: then don't ask
[22:05] <ikonia> Foxandxss: what version of ubuntu ?
[22:05] <Foxandxss> 13.04
[22:05] <ikonia> Foxandxss: the group is "sudo" I think on 13.04
[22:05] <Dr_willis> wheel for sudo/root rights has not been used in ubuntu in ages..
[22:05] <Foxandxss> oh, great
[22:06] <Dr_willis> sudo or admin. i forget. ;) not wheel
[22:06] <ikonia> Foxandxss: also your vps provider may have altered the permissions model
[22:06] <Foxandxss> sorry, old school here Dr_willis
[22:06] <c0nn3x0r> hhmm.. okeoke, pardon me.. i just confused, what i must do if i was installing python, perl, clgi, etc.. for coding =))
[22:06] <ikonia> Dr_willis: admin before 12.04 - sudo after (I think)
[22:06] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: open the web page and read how to use the package manager
[22:06] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: it explains it
[22:07] <Foxandxss> yay thanks ikonia :)
[22:07] <Dr_willis> !manual | c0nn3x0r
[22:07] <ozzloy> ikonia, have you ever been fairly certain someone was being a huge troll and then found out they were genuine the whole time?
[22:07] <c0nn3x0r> hhmm.. do u use ubuntu just for coding? or theres any purpose again? such hacking?
[22:07] <ikonia> ozzloy: not from memory
[22:07] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: anything you want
[22:08] <c0nn3x0r> hmm.. is ur mean Ubuntu "Linux For Human Beings" ?
[22:08] <histo> c0nn3x0r: what is your native language?
[22:08] <c0nn3x0r> Im indonesian, how bout u?
[22:09] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: try the channel #ubuntu-in
[22:09] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: people use your native language in there
[22:09] <luke1_> hey
[22:09] <histo> !in | c0nn3x0r
[22:10] <c0nn3x0r> hhmm.. is ur mean #ubuntu-ID ?
[22:10] <ikonia> #ubuntu-d
[22:10] <ikonia> #ubuntu-id
[22:10] <ikonia> sorry, my mistake
[22:10] <c0nn3x0r> i knew, In is code for inda
[22:11] <ss_haze> I feel like I want to change aproxiamate position of unity panel - do I get code of Unity and everything so I can try to change some variables?
[22:11] <luke1_> its #ubuntu-in i think
[22:11] <euxneks> howdy, is there a way I can initiate wireless on the CLI so I might actually get some useful error messages? As it is right now, wireless is not connecting to a wireless network after a restart.
[22:11] <c0nn3x0r> in #ubuntu-ID channel nobody who hangouts there, cause indonesian people more like with forum then chat. are u understand what i mean?
[22:11] <luke1_> oh
[22:12] <ikonia> c0nn3x0r: yes
[22:12] <c0nn3x0r> brb !
[22:12] <luke1_> whats the difference between x chat and gnome x chat?
[22:12] <Dr_willis> gnome xchat is more dumbed down
[22:12] <Dr_willis> most people hate it.
[22:12] <marcules> Good Evening :)
[22:13] <mjayk> Dr_willis: sounds like you can remove xchat from that sentence :D
[22:13] <c0nn3x0r> good evening too marcules, but in my country it was morning :D
[22:13] <Dr_willis> huh?
[22:13] <mjayk> lol dont worry i was being a bitch :)
[22:13] <Dr_willis> :P
[22:13] <ikonia> mjayk: tone it down a bit please.
[22:13] <mjayk> yesir
[22:13] <ikonia> thanks
[22:13] <luke1_> im using gnome x chat because i found it in the software center and i didn't find just plain x chat
[22:14] <Dr_willis> luke1_,  its in there
[22:14] <Dr_willis> !info xchat
[22:14] <luke1_> oh.
[22:14] <luke1_> i'll look again
[22:14] <hstefan> Hello. We are installing a new service on our server at the company, so I went off to check that machine... and apparently it hasn't been updated since 2009. I really want to update this thing, any strategy that I should follow to avoid rendering it useless?
[22:14] <ikonia> !upgrade | hstefan
[22:15] <jrib> hstefan: step 1: make backups so you can revert to current state.  step 2) see ubottu (I'd suggest upgrading to latest LTS (12.04)
[22:15] <luke1_> i all can find in the software center for a search for"x chat" is gnome x chat,pidgin and mangler
[22:16] <mjayk> i do not like rosey webster at all
[22:16] <luke1_> i mean all i
[22:16] <ikonia> luke1_: it's xchat - that's it
[22:16] <histo> !eol | hstefan
[22:16] <mjayk> luke1_: apt-get install xchat should work ?
[22:16] <ikonia> mjayk: stop it
[22:16] <ikonia> mjayk: the channel is ubuntu support
[22:16] <hstefan> How can I backup the entire state of the system? I'm thinking something like windows' restore points
[22:17] <histo> !backup | hstefan
[22:17] <ikonia> jrib: do you think it's worth putting a good backup / clear backup warning in that upgrade guide
[22:17] <luke1_> mjayk:sudo apt-get install xchat worked. thanks.
[22:18] <marcules> I've got a tiny little problem with my setup here and thought you guys can help... after a while the display manager won't render "everything" - Images/Websites become black und text is disappearing...
[22:18] <mjayk> luke1_: nps enjoy
[22:18] <jrib> ikonia: it should be common sense, but it wouldn't hurt!
[22:18] <marcules> I'm stuck with 12.04 here because of some company proprietary software
[22:18] <luke1_> thanky you
[22:18] <luke1_> i mean thank
[22:18] <luke1_> i need to type slower
[22:18] <marcules> http://i.imagebanana.com/img/h7nbmpme/Selection_038.png
[22:18] <ikonia> jrib: there are a few pages that could do with that, I may knock something up and ask you to put some input in place.
[22:19] <jrib> ikonia: sure
[22:21] <dirtydaw1> ls
[22:22] <Dr_willis> file not found
[22:26] <marcules> [41444.210882] [drm:drm_gem_create_mmap_offset] *ERROR* failed to allocate offset for bo 0 << I'm getting hundreds of these in dmesg
[22:28] <euxneks> for those who see the logs for this in the future, I found a log with lots of info for NetworkManager in /var/log/syslog
[22:30] <Shadowandlight> im trying to install a custom app on VM, and its not working correctly.  The dev suggested that "It means that your PIL or Pillow installation doesn't have freetype support. You need to install PIL or Pillow with freetype support." however "apt-get install python-imaging"  "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart"... did not fix the issue
[22:31] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: you need to get specific details of the requirements from the vendor
[22:32] <Shadowandlight> the only packages mentioned (i've installed all of them without any errors i can see) are taskel, phpmyadmin, python-setuptools, python-dev, make, apache2-dev, libevent-dev, python-mysqldb
[22:33] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: you need to ask them for specific packages/software versions then
[22:33] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: if the developer is telling you it's missing something - then he should be able to tell you specifically what it's missing
[22:33] <Shadowandlight> ok
[22:38] <marcules> Oh, I found my issue https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39552
[22:43] <anonee> may i ask whether i can ask this question?
[22:43] <ikonia> anonee: is it an ubuntu questoin
[22:43] <ikonia> question
[22:43] <anonee> lol ikonia yes
[22:45] <anonee> ikonia everything is related.
[22:45] <ikonia> anonee: is this related to ubuntu (your question)
[22:46] <OerHeks> Just ask your ubuntu question, anonee
[22:50] <jlund> If anyone has a Ubuntu server at DigitalOcean, I just published this advisory: http://missingm.co/2013/07/identical-droplets-in-the-digitalocean-regenerate-your-ubuntu-ssh-host-keys-now/
[22:51] <jrib> jlund: I've noticed that's an issue with lots of vps providers
[22:52] <jlund> jrib: Yeah, I suspect mostly with smaller ones. Rackspace, Amazon and Linode are all doing it right. DigitalOcean is now, too.
[22:54] <Ntemis> hello
[22:54] <Ntemis> i seek help
[22:54] <Ntemis> i have broken packages
[22:54] <Ntemis> but
[22:54] <Ntemis> packages need ubuntu 12.04.5
[22:54] <Ntemis> i have 12.04.2
[22:54] <Ntemis> apt tels me am up2date
[22:54] <anonee> is there ubuntu 12.04.5 ?
[22:55] <Ntemis> dunno
[22:55] <ougogo> Hi all. I've a server with CSF/LFD firewall. How can I create a shell script who open a port TCP/UDP, and an other that will close same port TCP/UDP. But I don't want to flush all iptables à the beginning. Just add port, restart, use port, close port, restart. Thanks !
[22:55] <jrib> Ntemis: what packages need it exactly?  Be more detailed.
[22:55] <Ntemis> transmission : Depends: transmission-gtk (>= 2.81-0ubuntu0.12.04.5) but it is not going to be installed or
[22:55] <Ntemis>                          transmission-qt (>= 2.81-0ubuntu0.12.04.5) but it is not going to be installed or
[22:55] <Ntemis>                          transmission-cli (>= 2.81-0ubuntu0.12.04.5) but it is not going to be installed
[22:55] <Ntemis> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:56] <Ntemis> thanks in advance
[22:56] <bazhang> ougogo, try #netfilter
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, Please use pastebin in the future
[22:56] <Ntemis> okey sorry
[22:56] <jrib> Ntemis: use a pastebin to paste full input and full output.  Also, tell us what you have done regarding packages and repositories (including any non-standard repositories you have enabled and any packages you have installed outside the repositories)
[22:56] <Ntemis> my machine states Operating system 	Ubuntu Linux 12.04.2
[22:57] <Ntemis> i added transmission ppa and sabnzbplus ppa
[22:57] <Ntemis> thast all
[22:57] <Ntemis> thats all
[22:57] <jrib> Ntemis: the regular update procedure takes you through the point releases for 12.04.  All 12.04 are the same (some are just updated more recently)
[22:57] <jrib> Ntemis: ok.  Pastebin what I asked
[22:58] <anonee> Okay, I actually need to throw my box out of the window. does this argument have backward compatibility with ubuntu 11?
[22:58] <ougogo> bazhang Thanks, I go look that !
[22:58] <bazhang> !ot | anonee
[22:59] <ferie> Goodmoning
[23:01] <benbloom> Is there a way to output installation logs from a unetboot instalation media?
[23:01] <benbloom> I'm trying to talk my mother through installation over the phone, so she's using the GUI to install, but I
[23:02] <benbloom> 'd like to be able to find out why it's failing
[23:03] <ferie> hi i do use ubuntu on my laptop. but i what to reinstall my main work computer to sam. but . i run a remote windows program to control a dvr-cam 21 cams. is  there a linux program i can use to remote connect a dvr recorter system. (sorry my bad ensk.)
[23:04] <Ntemis> jrib: http://pastebin.com/9wZS8XGV
[23:05] <ferie> benbloom: nomal ctrl+alt+F2  look in /var/logs i beliv there is a log there
[23:05] <msata> when i run #easy
[23:05] <benbloom> ty ferie.
[23:05] <sunnyjay> ferie, try wine
[23:05] <jrib> Ntemis: I asked for full input and output for the error you pasted
[23:06] <Ntemis> oh
[23:06] <ferie> sunnyjay: i have try but it is no go whe wine.
[23:06] <msata> when i run #easy_install pyasn1 it says easy_install not installed even thou i have already done apt-get install python-setuptools. PLEASE HELP!
[23:06] <jrib> Ntemis: you also have repositories here other than what you said...
[23:06] <Ntemis> i do?
[23:06] <jrib> Ntemis: webmin
[23:06] <Ntemis> ah
[23:06] <daixtr> hi how do i change the text color when I do 'vi testfile.c' in ubuntu?
[23:06] <Ntemis> yeah is a server
[23:06] <Ntemis> i need webmin
[23:07] <jrib> daixtr: you can use a different colorscheme
[23:07] <deyneko> Hi all, I first time here :) I need help. So first I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Decktop AMD Phenom II x4 3.20 / RAM 4 / Mother: M4A78T-E / video: ASUS Radeon EAH5750 /HDD: checked - OK. Problem: the system randomly freezes: mouse doesn't work, no alt+ctrl+F1, no reaction by REUSIB. Then I installed 13.04 it is same situation but it is more like problem with video card with default driver as well with proprietary driver. I can not
[23:07] <deyneko>  install proprietary driver. I mean catalyst said that videocard not correct.
[23:07] <daixtr> i tried that, but none fits what i like
[23:07] <jrib> Ntemis: I'm just stating that you said you only did one thing and in fact it is not true.  By the way though webmin is not suggested nor recommended
[23:07] <daixtr> i tried that in 'profiles'
[23:07] <jrib> !webmin | Ntemis
[23:07] <sunnyjay> ferie, is ur dvr has web access?
[23:08] <ferie> sunnyjay: yep but it will only work whe i install a internet explore .cab file.
[23:08] <Ntemis> webmin is the defacto free server manage tool for many people
[23:08] <Ntemis> i cant find a free replacement
[23:08] <jrib> !ebox | Ntemis
[23:08] <Ntemis> if you know any please tell
[23:08] <ferie> deyneko: try go to default vga update the driver. and start over
[23:09] <msata> when i run #easy_install pyasn1 it says easy_install not installed even thou i have already done apt-get install python-setuptools. PLEASE HELP!
[23:09] <msata> ANYONE>
[23:09] <ferie> msata: nomal you do not use apt-get to python.
[23:09] <Ntemis> i think that cant do what webmin can
[23:10] <Ntemis> i will have a look though
[23:10] <jrib> msata: why are you using easy_install as root?
[23:10] <sunnyjay> ferie, try safari browser on ubuntu
[23:10] <msata> dunno what should i be using?
[23:10] <msata> how do i install pyasn1 as root
[23:10] <ferie> sunnyjay: do safari support .cab files ?
[23:10] <deyneko> ferie yes I tried but situation same - random freezing when I can only use reset buton. Actually I use same distributiv on a noutbook (I'm writing from it) - and it is OK
[23:11] <jrib> msata: ideally you would be using apt-get to install your python packages if you need them system-wide.  Even better, if you need this for some sort of project, you would use virtualenv (and pip)
[23:11] <ferie> deyneko: can you get to a terminal on it. ?
[23:11] <jrib> msata: you can install this package using apt-get: sudo apt-get install python-pyasn1
[23:11] <sunnyjay> ferie, check this link http://www.filecrop.com/safari-browser.cab.html
[23:11] <deyneko> after freezing no, but I have a time before freezing
[23:12] <ferie> thanks sunnyjay i will try whe safari
[23:12] <msata> unable to locate package python-pyasn1
[23:12] <ikonia> ferie: hang on
[23:12] <msata> ?
[23:12] <ikonia> sunnyjay: is safari available for linux
[23:12] <sunnyjay> ferie, let me know if it solves your problem
[23:12] <ikonia> ferie: don't download anything from that site
[23:12] <ikonia> ferie: it is not to be trusted
[23:12] <jrib> msata: what ubuntu version?
[23:13] <msata> 12.04.02
[23:13] <jrib> !who  | msata
[23:13] <Ntemis> jrib: is this free? http://www.zentyal.com/pricing-editions/
[23:13] <ferie> sunnyjay: open your computer and tag out the card start up remove the driver. and back whe the card
[23:13] <ikonia> ferie: do you understand those files are high risk
[23:13] <msata> jrib: 12.04.02
[23:13] <msata> !tab
[23:13] <jrib> Ntemis: I imagine the community edition is
[23:13] <ferie> ikonia: i know. i will not try
[23:13] <ikonia> ferie: ok, great, just checking
[23:14] <Ntemis> yeah but no raid management for servers
[23:14] <Ntemis> so scrap
[23:14] <jrib> !info python-pyasn1 precise | msata
[23:14] <jrib> msata: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again
[23:15] <clj_newb_2345> I have 1)  mac mini, 2) a laptop, 3) network cables / router and 4) no monitor. Is there some way of installing ubuntu on the mac mini? i.e. some way for the mac mini to boot off a cd, which opens up a ssh port, which I can ssh in (over my LAN) from my laptop ... and then install from there
[23:15] <ikonia> clj_newb_2345: burn ubuntu to cd - put ubuntu cd in mac mini, boot mac mini from cd, install ubuntu
[23:15] <clj_newb_2345> I don't have an external monitor
[23:15] <ikonia> clj_newb_2345: ooh I see
[23:16] <clj_newb_2345> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole might be what I want
[23:16] <Ntemis> jrib: zentyal-samba - Zentyal - File Sharing Service are those guys serious lol
[23:16] <Ntemis> webmin all the way!
[23:16] <Ntemis> scapyal
[23:17] <jrib> Ntemis: it's your server; just keep in mind it's not recommended nor supported
[23:17] <Ntemis> i can live without transmission bt
[23:17] <Ntemis> i will notify ppa guys
[23:17] <Ntemis> thanks for the help
[23:18] <msata> jrib: you are correct it was the update
[23:18] <jrib> msata: cool
[23:18] <msata> jrib: but for some reason it fails updating, i can't even do a wget on a site. but i can ping google?
[23:18] <deyneko> ferie: about access to terminal - after freezing no, but I have a time before freezing
[23:19] <PinkSwing> I'm having problems with draftSight. I have managed to install it using this tutorial http://linuxaideddesign.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/draftsight-and-ubuntu-1204-lts-64bit.html   However, when draftSight runs, most of the screen does not update and the mouse disappears when it moves over this non-updating region. It seems to be loading files as the drop-down lists show correct layers and linetypes from my drawing and the correct layout tabs but the drawin
[23:19] <Kitt3n> So, I opened a minimized Konsole window and my computer restarted without actually turning off and closed all my programs
[23:19] <Kitt3n> what
[23:19] <ikonia> Kitt3n: sounds like your xserver crashed
[23:20] <ferie> deyneko: can you open the computer tag out the screen card, boot up and remove the driver. back whe the card and update.
[23:20] <Kitt3n> ikonia, Okay? How can I check that out
[23:21] <ikonia> Kitt3n: re-test it
[23:21] <c_smith_> hey, I'm installing rEFInd on my system, and want to know if the gnuefi version would work on a system with UEFI.
[23:21] <c_smith_> does any one know?
[23:21] <msata> jrib: i added 8.8.8.8 as a name server to /etc/resolv.conf and it started working
[23:21] <msata> jrib: thanks dude!
[23:22] <Dreki> Can someone help me diagnose a problem I am having with Xubuntu? I'm getting a ~60 second hang on login just after I put in my password.
[23:22] <deyneko> ferie: sorry I didn't understand exactly... I have access to ubuntu files from windows. I can remove driver. But at present there are files for proprietary driver but system said that it use default one.
[23:22] <Kitt3n> ikonia, I launched Konsole, minimized it and reopened it, boom same crash
[23:23] <ikonia> Kitt3n: get a bug logged
[23:23] <Kitt3n> ikonia, about? KDE's console emulator crashing and no idea what is actually doing it?
[23:24] <ferie> denwerko: so you can ssh to the computer or ?
[23:24] <denwerko> ferie, yep, i can
[23:24] <denwerko> sorry for afk
[23:24] <denwerko> ehm, you probably got wrong name... deyneko ?
[23:25] <ikonia> Kitt3n: I'd put it against the KDE desktop in general rather than konsole
[23:25] <ikonia> Kitt3n: put all the details in
[23:25] <Kitt3n> ikonia, Okay, I found something similar, and it's linked to AMD. Not a big surprise
[23:25] <ferie> denwerko: okay what the name of the card ?
[23:25] <Dreki> Can someone help me diagnose a problem I am having with Xubuntu? I'm getting a ~60 second hang on login just after I put in my password. I have been having the problem for a few months, I haven't been able to figure out why.
[23:25] <deyneko> ferie if you asking me about ssh - no I can not use it just don't know how
[23:26] <ferie> deyneko: i will help you
[23:26] <Kitt3n> ikonia, yes, it's indeed AMD. I resized Konsole's window and the same thing happened. Fun.
[23:26] <deyneko> ferie: ASUS Radeon EAH5750
[23:27] <ikonia> Kitt3n: get it logged, it's reproducable
[23:27] <XLV> anyone else having trouble updating through update manager in DE?
[23:27] <Kitt3n> ikonia, it's already logged
[23:27] <ferie> deyneko: google putty and download it
[23:27] <ikonia> Kitt3n: by you or someone else
[23:27] <Kitt3n> Someone else having the same problem.
[23:27] <ikonia> Kitt3n: ahh
[23:27] <joshu> hey I'm trying to create a deb from an open source project so I can build once and then move the binary product to other machines. I'm using this: sudo checkinstall -fstrans=no -install=no -pkgversion="1.1.0-beta1" -pkgname=freerdp -y -requires=libavcodec53
[23:28] <Kitt3n> ikonia, LONG ago too
[23:28] <joshu> never used check install so any feedback is welcome
[23:28] <ikonia> joshu: don't do it
[23:28] <Guest97433> yooooooo
[23:28] <ikonia> joshu: build packages properly
[23:28] <deyneko> ferie OK I'will download
[23:28] <joshu> ikonia hey. is that difficult?
[23:28] <CheeseMasta> yeah buddy!
[23:29] <ikonia> joshu: more work, but no, you should be able to manage fine
[23:29] <ikonia> joshu: you know freerdp is in the repos already
[23:29] <joshu> ikonia old version
[23:29] <joshu> :(
[23:29] <ikonia> joshu: do you need the newer version ?
[23:30] <joshu> yeah the ubuntu one is 1.0.1 and is broken. the freerdp-team have a PPA which is the newer stable one 1.0.2 but it too is broken. I've spent several days trying to get help with this, but in the end I've had to build it myself.
[23:31] <Kuroshita> Hey guys, I'm running into a major issue here. Everytime I visit a particular website, X crashes. Here's a paste of the piped error by firefox http://paste.ubuntu.com/5927095/ I am using Ubuntu 13.04
[23:31] <ikonia> joshu: broken ?
[23:31] <EnthusiasticGoer> hey guys.  if I have two clients trying to modify an object A to the same server, how do i make sure that only one of the clients succeeds?
[23:31] <joshu> ikonia I go through the motions, cmake, make and then sudo make install. But now I want to move this to several ubuntu machines and I don't want to spend hours trying to figure out how to build a package. Otherwise I'll just have to copy over the whole build directory.
[23:32] <joshu> ikonia yeah printer redirection etc, the freerdp-team PPA won't even run for me at all
[23:32] <ikonia> joshu: yeah, you want to build this into a proper package
[23:32] <c_smith_> so, does anyone know if gnuefi would work on UEFI?
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[23:33] <ferie> deyneko: i will msg you now much text i will sent you
[23:39] <ferie> my irssi is flipping out. so maning quits and connects
[23:40] <joshu> ikonia is it a long procedure to build a package properly? any good guide, recipe that I can follow?
[23:40] <ikonia> !packaging | joshu
[23:40] <ikonia> joshu: first one will be a bit messy, but you'll soon get the hang of it
[23:43] <joshu> ikonia http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html#starting-a-package upstream tar ball do I need to download the git repo as a tar for this step?
[23:44] <ikonia> joshu: just tar it up
[23:45] <Zandro> !seen helol
[23:46] <delinquentme> unix command to change a number of filenames
[23:46] <joshu> ok and should I remove ubuntu's bundled xfreerdp before building a package and installing it later to avoid conflicts or will mine overwrite ubuntu's version?
[23:47] <delinquentme> say like ls . | mv x*.rb x
[23:47] <jrib> delinquentme: use "rename"
[23:49] <delinquentme> jrib, example of how to rename all blahX.rb to blahX
[23:50] <jrib> delinquentme: rename 's/.rb$//' *X.rb
[23:50] <Shadowandlight> anyone have an idea on how to get freetype 2 / zlib support for PIL on Ubuntu? - https://privatepaste.com/26bf9ff106
[23:50] <jrib> delinquentme: use rename with -n, so that it will not change anything.  It will just tell you what it would do.  Safer this way
[23:51] <jrib> Shadowandlight: doesn't the package have it?   Where are you getting the output you pasted...?
[23:51] <delinquentme> jrib, noted
[23:52] <Shadowandlight> jrib: that output was from running "sudo apt-get install python-dev zlib1g-dev libfreetype6-dev"  then "pip install --upgrade PIL"
[23:52] <ikonia> Shadowandlight: pip is bad
[23:53] <Shadowandlight> easy_install then?
[23:53] <ikonia> easy_install is bad
[23:53] <Shadowandlight> or apt-get?
[23:53] <jrib> Shadowandlight: why don't you use the "python-imaging" package with apt-get?  Anyway, if you need to use pip (for example in virtualenv), install pillow, not PIL
[23:54] <joshu> ok good night
[23:55] <vaskaloidis> hey I installed Ubuntu on my HD on another computer than booted it off the computer i intend to use it on, and when I try to configure the ethernet that is on the motherboard I keep getting an "cannot find device eth0, failed to bring up eth0" error
[23:55] <vaskaloidis> I have configured the interfaces file correctly I beleive
[23:55] <histo> vaskaloidis: does lspci   show the ethernet card?
[23:56] <vaskaloidis> histo: yes it shows the motherboard ethernet jack, the extra ethernet card I have installed and the wireless ethernet card I have
[23:57] <histo> vaskaloidis: does ifconfig show eth0?
[23:57] <vaskaloidis> no just lo
[23:57] <vaskaloidis> wait now eth1 came up
[23:57] <histo> vaskaloidis: do you have multiple nics?
[23:57] <vaskaloidis> yes
[23:57] <vaskaloidis> histo: eth1 never showed up before
[23:58] <vaskaloidis> and idk how it did histo because I commented it out of the interfaces file