| joako | The problem I have with bzr is it consumes too much memory. I simply wish to ¨download¨ some code. After 12mb is downloaded 225mb of RAM has been consumed | 04:16 |
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| thumper | and that is a problem because... | 04:20 |
| joako | After about 50mb is downloaded approx 500mb is consumed and I am out of memory and bzr abruptly exits with a message ¨Killed¨ | 04:20 |
| joako | In dmesg there is the message: Out of memory: Kill process 3572 (bzr) score 500 or sacrifice child | 04:20 |
| joako | I just wish to download the code of launchpad.net but I don´t see any direct download option | 04:21 |
| SamB | joako: you might want to consider adding some swap | 04:21 |
| joako | SamB, Yes but why is it so complex to download a software? Why does it need 10x more memory than what it downloads? | 04:21 |
| SamB | joako: who knows :-( | 04:22 |
| thumper | python possibly | 04:22 |
| SamB | whoever knew probably moved on | 04:22 |
| thumper | lifeless probably knows | 04:22 |
| SamB | thumper: pretty sure that's not why | 04:22 |
| joako | Is there any other way? E.g. in sourceforge.net there is a download zip option direct from the browser | 04:23 |
| thumper | joako: what are you trying to get? | 04:32 |
| spiv | There's extensive discussions on the list archives about why it consumes so much memory. | 04:39 |
| spiv | The simplest workaround is usually to download incrementally; "bzr branch -r 1000 URL; cd proj; bzr pull -r 2000; bzr pull -r 3000; …" | 04:40 |
| SamB | hmm, true | 04:41 |
| * SamB couldn't remember if that would actually work until he just now realized "well otherwise 'bzr pull' would always take AGES on lp:launchpad" ... | 04:43 | |
| spiv | (Btw, “python” isn't why) | 04:43 |
| spiv | Well, mostly ;) | 04:43 |
| SamB | yeah, Python can only explain a small amount of it | 04:43 |
| SamB | like I might believe a 2x-4x lossage to Python | 04:44 |
| lifeless | thumper: oh hiai? | 05:15 |
| thumper | lifeless: joako above was complaining about the memory use of bzr | 05:16 |
| thumper | lifeless: I said you'd probably know why it was as high as he was reporting | 05:16 |
| lifeless | oh | 05:16 |
| thumper | because I have NFI | 05:16 |
| lifeless | so last I recall a big chunk was the slab cache | 05:16 |
| lifeless | if you're pulling off of a smart server it can mostly blat stuff to disk but we still need to do some processing for integrity | 05:17 |
| SamB | lifeless: he was particularly complaining that it's many times as big in RAM as on the wire | 05:18 |
| lifeless | SamB: that's partly because we get 1000's | 05:20 |
| lifeless | SamB: -> 1 compression | 05:20 |
| SamB | probably it would be better if validation could be performed by reading it back off the disk | 05:21 |
| lifeless | so the thing to do would be to oke at it with jameinel's memory profiler and see where the usage is | 05:26 |
| lifeless | my bet is on cached gc slabs, which is a tunable tat can be tuned down | 05:26 |
| lifeless | (in exchange for more reads off of disk...) | 05:26 |
| SamB | that sure beats being OOM killed ... | 05:30 |
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| karlis | How would you go about creating a folder in launchpad? Something like lp:~team/project/container-folder/branch? | 07:10 |
| thumper | karlis: you can't | 08:24 |
| karlis | thumper: thats what i started to figure | 08:27 |
| thumper | karlis: branches are a flat namespace in launchpad on a project | 08:27 |
| thumper | well, flat in that it goes ~owner/project/name | 08:27 |
| thumper | so that tuple has to be unique | 08:27 |
| thumper | no folders | 08:27 |
| thumper | it complicates traversal | 08:28 |
| karlis | So what is the convention? I just create my structure locally and push the branches straight to my project? | 08:29 |
| karlis | Seems things could get cluttered if you make to many release branches. | 08:29 |
| karlis | thumper: Ether way thank you for the explanation | 08:30 |
| thumper | well, it depends | 08:30 |
| thumper | launchpad tracks merges, | 08:31 |
| thumper | so if a branch is merged into trunk, it gets marked as merged | 08:31 |
| thumper | so doesn't show up in the default branch listing | 08:31 |
| thumper | normally you'd have the development focus series branch set | 08:31 |
| thumper | it becomes the short lp:project name | 08:31 |
| thumper | other series can have linked branches too | 08:31 |
| thumper | to be lp:project/series | 08:31 |
| karlis | Good to know | 08:39 |
| karlis | Thanks btw ;) | 09:54 |
| karlis | Is there a way i could move branches around my repository. But so they change there bound URI to an appropriate destination on the bzr server? | 12:23 |
| karlis | I guess what I'm asking is there a bzr way to do mv,init,bind? | 12:24 |
| maxb | I can't underderstand what you're trying to do | 12:25 |
| karlis | i want to move a branch from folder dev to merged | 12:26 |
| maxb | If you want to move whole branches around on disk, you just do it (subject to the restriction that if they use a shared repository, you can't move them outside it) | 12:27 |
| karlis | I guess that makes perfect sense if i think about it | 12:32 |
| gakins | I'm having permission problems with bazaar. (I'm also new to bazaar so forgive me if this is stupid). It looks like when I do a bar pull that I'm can't access the 'lock' did because my user only has read) access. Is it sufficient to give a 'group' write access to the entire project directory? Or is there more finesse required? | 15:10 |
| gakins | bzr pull.. not bar pull (Stupid autocorrect) | 15:10 |
| mgz | try creating a new branch from what you're trying to pull from | 15:11 |
| gakins | No. I have a local repo which another developer created. I'm trying to get the most recent code from the remote repo | 15:11 |
| mgz | right, so find the url of the remote repo `bzr info` | 15:12 |
| mgz | then create a new branch `bzr branch REMOTE NEW-LOCAL` | 15:12 |
| mgz | you can fiddle with the bits you have on disk if you like, but it's just as easy to get a new copy of what you actually want | 15:13 |
| gakins | It appears that you're saying just to ignore the current local branch and create a new one.. am I understanding that correctly? | 15:13 |
| gakins | mgz:Ah.. OK Thanks! | 15:14 |
| mgz | yup. there are other options, but that's simple and doesn't matter how screwed up the perms are with what you have currently. | 15:14 |
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