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fractalinehello people..   i've had my opengl compositing stop working after an apt-get  update that was largely   kde stuff.  anyone have a similar experience or know how to look into the issue?00:37
GiGaHuRtZHmm, guess I wilkl ask here soince every channel before has been clueless00:52
GiGaHuRtZI decided to dig out my brandnew never used 7 inch TFT resistive touchscreen, to have a little fun00:53
GiGaHuRtZWell, it works in KDE as a display, and the touchscreen works, but the problem is it acts a touchpad point device00:53
GiGaHuRtZI dont know how to get it to work as touchpad00:53
GiGaHuRtZThe companies support is very pooor,m and havent published drivers since K24 and K2700:54
GiGaHuRtZ26*00:54
GiGaHuRtZApparently there 3.xs kernels have some sort of module that I believe works with the device, and I have it loaded00:54
GiGaHuRtZRestarted x etc, no difference00:54
GiGaHuRtZIm clueless with touchscreens, so im a bit lost00:55
GiGaHuRtZGuess i  will see if i can get going in 8.101:03
fractalinei've also got what seems to me like a huge memory leak from plasma..   system activity says it's using 2.7gig of 3.7...01:24
greg__hello01:26
fractalinesystem is SO slow.01:27
fractalineok, system seems better after removing plasma config files and restarting but still can't enable opengl...    i'd love to know what to do next...02:30
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emDo any of you think that the latest kubuntu would be suitable for my elderly mother?02:49
emwho is not a computer person by any means02:49
fractalineem, kde can be overwhelming to set up but once done it is easy to use02:51
fractalinethe ultimate custom desktop02:51
fractalineeverything exactiy where and how you want it02:52
juacom99hi, one question, when i search someting at the launcher i keep getting old results. any way to get ride of theme?02:57
autistalolbuntu maximum rice edition03:48
^catalysthello04:07
emfractaline: cool. Yeah so I would probably set it all up for her and then just let her use it. Her needs are very basic.04:57
emfractaline: the one thing im worried about is being able to setup her hp wireless printer-scanner04:58
emdoes kubuntu have a good system for recognizing and using printers?04:58
valoriewhy not try it out with a liveDVD or USB?04:58
valoriethen you can be sure04:58
emI suppose I will try04:59
emIf I get the latest Kubuntu regular version will it be able to LiveDVD ?04:59
valorieit will make both of you feel more secure04:59
valorieall the released ISOs will work as liveDVDs05:00
valorieunless they are old, and say they are not05:00
emok05:01
valoriewe have no alternate install DVDs anymore05:01
emvalorie: but then how do you do things like full disk encryption?05:47
valorieuse the live media to test things out05:47
valorienot as a permanent solution05:47
emvalorie: no im saying, since you have no more alt DVDS anymore, how would a person who uses kubuntu set up something like full disk encryption ?05:49
emi always used the alt cds for that05:49
valorieI've never done it, but I believe that is one of the choices offered as you install05:49
valorieem: http://laffers.net/howtos/install-kubuntu-10-10-with-full-disk-encryption/05:51
valorieis just the top link I get when googling full disk encryption kubuntu05:51
mojo706hello, quick question. If you have Kubuntu then install xfce then you have Xubuntu?05:53
valoriemojo706: how did you install xfce?05:54
Unit193Not precisely, but why would you need Xubuntu if you just want Xfce?05:54
mojo706valorie, its not me its a question on UF about xfce05:55
mojo706Unit193, I didn't know the difference05:56
valoriemojo706: I would think that if you apt-get install xfce-desktop, then you will be able to choose xubuntu in grub06:00
valoriehowever, having never tried it, I can't say for sure06:00
valorieyou might ask in #xubuntu06:01
valoriewhere the experts live06:01
mojo706thanks valorie06:17
emvalorie: looks like Kubuntu  having no more altDVDs is a serious problem.06:27
valoriewhy is that?06:30
emBecause I really liked to be able to put full disk encryption on my laptop with the alt DVD06:31
emlooking at those instructions you linked, that was for 10.10 and its really opaque.06:31
valoriecan you use the server CD to do that?06:31
valoriewell, I just gave you the top match06:32
emI dont know06:32
emmaybe i could use an ubuntu alt DVD if they still make them, and then put kubuntu-desktop on it06:32
emi bet that won't be the same tho06:32
valoriewe don't have enough people to continue to provide the alt-CD06:32
jussiem: Im pretty sure the full disk encryption was added to unity06:32
jussierr06:33
jussinot unity06:33
jussithe installer that I forget the name of :D06:33
emhm, what do you mean?06:33
tsimpsonubiquity06:34
jussitsimpson: thanks :)06:35
emis ubiquity the way that kubuntu is installed on the normal DVD now?06:35
tsimpsonubiquity is what all the ubuntu's use as the graphical installer06:35
jussihttp://www.ozzyfrank.com/Ubuntu/images/ad-Kubuntu-Ubiquity-Partitioner_th.jpg06:35
emoh and full disk encryption is an option on there now?06:35
jussisee picture :)06:36
valorieI thought I remembered that it was.....06:37
c-c-mhello can anyone tell me how can I  add plugins to kdevelop?06:37
emjussi: that looks promising as long as you want to use your whole disk.06:38
c-c-mI'm trying to follow this tutorial http://nikosams.blogspot.com.es/2010/02/kdevelop-xdebug-php-debugger.html06:38
emjussi: the problem can come if you want to dual boot and have enryption on the linux side06:38
c-c-mand I don't know how to install execturebrowser plugin from here: http://download.kde.org/unstable/kdevelop/3.9.98/src06:38
jussiem: selecct manual06:38
embut then you won't get to encrypt06:38
syriaHi ! after downloading anything using firefox, Double click on the downloaded file will ask me which app is supposed to run this file! I don't get this with firefox on unity or windows or anything else!06:55
valoriesyria, you can set stuff like this in systemsettings07:00
valorieonce set globally, you won't be asked again07:01
syriavalorie:  Do you mean default applications?07:02
valorieyes07:02
syriavalorie: but it doesn't mention .zip files or . jpg for example!07:05
valorieas I recall, there is usually a checkbox though: use this choice in the future, or some such07:06
valoriewhich should help07:07
syriavalorie:  if you mark this checkbox all sorts of files will be opened using the same app.07:07
valorieright07:08
syriaI have been suffering from this for a while. :(07:08
valorieisn't that the point?07:08
syriavalorie:  if you mark the checkbox , .zip files and jpg and .deb will be opened the same app!07:08
valoriehmmm07:08
valoriethat seems wrong07:09
valoriefile-a-bugreport type wrong07:09
syriahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/953700  it is already there but there is no useful solution.07:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 953700 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu 12.04 Firefox and Rekong don't know how to open downloaded files" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:09
jussiem: yes you do, iirc, you get to choose if you encrypt the partition itself.07:13
nick87720zhello there. I'm again about that problem with gtk3 apps. Not even kde problem. It was xsettings-kde daemon, which caused gtk3 apps to apply default Raleigh style.08:22
_droidhi people, I tried to install the latest ruby from source and I think I screwed something up. Whenever changing or list the contents of a directory I get this message from bash:08:23
_droid-bash: /usr/share/ruby-rvm/scripts/initialize: No such file or directory08:23
_droid-bash: /usr/share/ruby-rvm/scripts/hook: No such file or directory08:23
_droidcan someone help08:23
nick87720zVery strange, since according to description, this daemon should just remove necesarity to restart gtk3 stuff :/08:23
nick87720zsome xsettings-kde bug08:24
nick87720z_droid: Though i'm not persistent member of this channel... How this relates to kubuntu?08:25
_droidnick87720z: because my os is kubuntu08:25
nick87720zah, probably :) i expected, that this channel is dedicated more to kde-specific discussions, is it not?08:26
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valorienick87720z: you might find more help in a ruby channel, though08:31
nick87720z_droid: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7694151/i-killed-rvm-now-i-have-a-bash-message08:31
_droidnick87720z: thank you08:31
valorieoops, that was for _droid08:31
valoriesorry08:31
nick87720z:)08:32
valoriethere is #kde for strictly KDE questions08:32
valoriewe try to cover all aspects of Kubuntu, but that doesn't mean that all experts in everything are here all the time08:33
nick87720zfor gtk2 apps (tested audacious) xsettings-kde works correct08:39
nick87720z3g modem failure :/08:50
nick87720zI checked, if that bug is caused by same as in xfce4 gtk3 theme was set equal to gtk2 one, but setting gtk2 to oxygen-kde did not work for gtk308:51
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harshadhi10:39
BluesKajHiyas all11:00
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himanshuHi, i want to record my screen, how to do it in kubuntu 13.0412:07
BluesKajhimanshu, install recordmydesktop12:09
BluesKajor recorditnow , which is the kde version I believe12:10
randy__hello12:21
randy__hello?12:22
smartboyhwHello randy__12:23
randy__hello smartboyw, is this the place to ask Django questions?12:24
smartboyhwrandy__: Hmm, not quite. Try #django or ##django (don't know which one)12:24
randy__ty12:25
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juanfgsHello there and thank you for your time. I don't know if this is the correct channel to ask, but yesterday I started using kOrganizer, but today I found out that all the tasks that I created yesterday were gone :(13:05
BluesKajjuanfgs, do you run kubuntu , or are you just asking because it uses kde?13:10
juanfgsI'm currently using kubuntu13:10
juanfgsI know it's a silly question but I coudln't find anything online about it, and just lost a bunch of tasks that I needed to do today :(13:11
BluesKajjuanfgs, make sure your akonadi server is running , i think korganizer uses it's database13:15
juanfgslet me see13:15
juanfgsit's running13:16
BluesKajjuanfgs, sorry but I don't know much about korganizer and akonadi , since i don't use the PIM system13:21
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crazyboyhi,man13:54
BluesKajhey13:56
crazyboywho is chinese?13:57
BluesKaj!cn13:57
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:57
smartboyhwHello crazyboy, I'm from Hong Kong13:57
crazyboywo13:58
BluesKajwhat's with the "boy" thing with you guys ? :)13:59
smartboyhw.....13:59
crazyboyi'm new here14:00
smartboyhwI'm a boy14:00
BluesKajyes crazyboy, I know14:00
crazyboyso ,someone can help me ,if you can speak chinese14:01
BluesKajsmartboyhw, there you go , crazyboy needs help14:01
crazyboyhow do you know,BluseKaj?14:02
BluesKajbut i guess my post above didn't seem to register14:02
BluesKajcrazyboy, because you said so14:03
crazyboy...............14:03
crazyboyi have no words14:03
BluesKajno text ?14:04
smartboyhwcrazyboy: What can I help then?14:07
crazyboycan you speak chinese?14:07
crazyboyif you can ,yes14:07
smartboyhwyes of course14:08
crazyboy真的?14:08
geniicrazyboy: The channels #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw would be more appropriate for help in the language you are asking14:09
crazyboyit's time to slepping,bye14:15
palassoI just noticed that package 'firefox' replaces package 'kubuntu-firefox-installer'. Till now I was purging package 'kubuntu-firefox-installer' and then installing via the package manager package 'firefox'. So was it redundant that I was purging at first 'kubuntu-firefox-installer' ?14:40
BluesKajpalasso, may i ask why you were purging the installer ?14:48
palassoI preferred to install firefox without the installer but through the package manager as it were a normal package. Also since I install firefox that way, I don't really need the installer to be installed on my system.14:50
palassoBasically I am creating a markings file and preparing it for Kubuntu 13.10 and I am reviewing the different packages and their structure.14:51
Raseranhi14:52
BluesKajwell palasso I can tell you that the FF installer is still default in 13,.1015:02
palassoBluesKaj: I'm okay with it. I'm not here to open debates on what should be default in 13.10 :)15:13
palassoAs a matter of fact I like Kubuntu that much that I'm installing the kubuntu-full metapackage ;)15:13
BluesKajyeah , but I figured you might like to know , palasso15:13
palassothnx, I had that in mind... Didn't expect to see it go away...15:14
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palassoAs a matter of fact there are some packages not on the repos and I might suggest in the future to be included15:15
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BluesKajI heard FF was dropping the ubuntu installer , so I guess (k)ubuntu are maintanimg it15:16
palassoubuntu installer? I'm not familiar with that15:17
BluesKajthe ff installer15:17
palassoThe ff installer is a kubuntu thing... I don't think it was ever on any other distro.15:18
BluesKajI'd like to see some that are optional in the OS installer for example some kde PIM services that I will never use15:18
palassoyou mean ubiquity-kde ?15:19
BluesKajyes15:19
palassoI'd like to see a button that says "pick your own packages to be installed" and goes to a screen with Muon Package Manager. Then I would go File ---> Read Markings and  open my markings file with my set of package choices. It's what I do now after the installation ;)15:21
BluesKajubiquity still doesn't recognize some of my hardware and it stops dead, even with dailies in 13.1015:21
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BluesKajso I'm forced to use the internet do-release15:21
BluesKajfor last 2 kubuntu OSs15:22
palasso:(15:23
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BluesKajpalasso, yes , i like your idea of the optional manual package install , apart from the default which should excluse PIMs and any search/index apps etc15:25
BluesKajerr exclude15:26
palassoIsn't there a kubuntu-minimal metapackage?15:26
palassoThe alternate installer had the ability to choose from different metapackages (e.g. I'd choose from that 'kubuntu-full')15:27
BluesKaji miss the alternate install , i preferred it to the auto15:28
oleg_test16:25
Di3mexI'm trying to add virtual desktops to my activities. I want something like this: [Chat] - {skype} {irc} , [Desktop] {chrome}{firefox}{music}. with [an activity] {a virtual desktop}. Problem is that if I change virtual desktops on one activity it changes them on all other activities too.17:16
Di3mexI want 4 virtual desktops on the one activity and 2 on the other. Is that possible?17:18
Di3mexAm I in the right channel?17:18
BluesKajDi3mex, i really don't know much about activity options and features , try the #kde chat17:22
Di3mexBluesKaj: thanks, I will try to get an answer there.17:22
BluesKajdijonyummy, stay here as well , someone who knows your answer might join17:23
BluesKajoops17:23
nick87720zhello there17:32
nick87720zIs it possible, to change oxygen background style for gui (not kwin decoration)?17:32
nick87720zI don't recall, did i achieve that earlier (one or more years ago), but currently i don't se nothing looking like that neither in configuration dialog, nor in oxygenrc.17:34
nick87720zMy problem is that primary style (qt4/gtk2) is qtcurve, when gtk3 is oxygen.17:35
nick87720zqtcurve: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/31/screen1.png17:36
nick87720zfor others decoration is opaque, so it could be solid together oxygen-styled windows, but background enlightenment breaks this17:38
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OkitainHi guys. My touchpad doesn't work after an upgrade and erasing my xorg.conf for technical reasons. I can't find it in lspci/lsusb, and synaptik doesn't find it either. In Mageia that I run in dualboot, it works fine. What can the issue be?19:21
mluser-laptopAnyone know if the ubuntu-sdk can be installed into kubuntu 12.04 without causing dependency nightmares?19:27
* genii contemplates chroot + xephyr19:39
Okitainmluser-laptop: should be.19:47
mluser-laptopOkitain: thanks for the response.. I already tried.. and now I'm fixing a bunch of broken packages.  qtchooser, seems to be the culprit atm19:53
OkitainHmm, my up-to-date kubuntu suggests only qt4-defaults for uninstallation.19:54
mluser-laptopI think I got the same message.. but several packages errored out in the configure/settup phase19:54
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douglcant seem to be able to install 12.04 on my new notebook - any suggestions?21:01
exosuswhere can i find kmix options?21:13
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lethuexosus, go to the systray21:14
lethuthe click the sound icon21:14
lethuthen on the "mixer" button21:14
lethuthen "settings" and then "configure kmix"21:15
exosuslethu, thanks ;)21:16
lethuexosus, yw21:16
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douglanyone know how I can force install kubuntu on a asus g75v21:54
robotdevildougl: why wouldnt it go on?22:11
douglpos22:15
douglI have never been able to install any flavour of ubuntu with out some tooth pulling22:16
keithzgHmm, I just installed Kubuntu 13.04 on an Acer C7 (a chromebook). None of the alternate functions of the F keys (like brightness, volume, etc) seem to work. Anyone have any ideas?22:16
exosuskeithzg, maybe you have to try to set them manually?22:17
keithzgexosus: Yeah, that's what I'22:17
keithzgm resorting to. But that means they won't work if not logged in, for example (mostly just a tingle issue in the case of brightness controls, for example)22:18
exosusi see22:18
keithzgAnd, after all, the settings are already set, for example, for "Volume Down" as the key for putting the volume down, so something's gone wrong with detecting that, at very least.22:19
exosusdo chromebooks have a standalone buttons for functions? in my case i need to press fn key + f1..822:20
keithzgexosus: Naw, it's the standard function+f# keys, but hitting fn+f# does nothing.22:20
keithzgHmmm. And hitting Fn+F6 in the keybindings isn't even noticed. So I can't even manually set it. Sigh.22:21
exosusI am not experienced kubuntu user,  so sorry if my suggestions  turn out to be wrong. Maybe there is something  with keyboard layout?22:23
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keithzgI doubt it. And I've read reports saying that the keys work fine under Ubuntu . . . but no way I want to run Unity, heh.22:25
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keithzg(and, of course, it could've been broken by 13.04)22:25
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exosusSystem Settings> Input Devices > Keyboard > Keyboard mode/ Advanced -> Alt/Win Key22:27
exosushave you tried playing with these?22:28
keithzgBut, the problem isn't the meta key, it's the fn key, and how the input with Fn held down is somehow not being acknowledged.22:29
robotdevilcan anyone tell me if the kubuntu 13.04 manual partitioning  installer bug is fixed22:34
exosusas i've checked on my kubuntu, whenever i press fn key standalone or when i use it in this way: "fn"+"=" it doesnt recognize fn key22:34
exosusand when i use it with arrows or f# it changes name to "Volume up/down" "Monitor Brightness.."22:36
keithzgYeah, when I use it with F# it . . . does nothing at all.22:39
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