[00:37] <fractaline> hello people..   i've had my opengl compositing stop working after an apt-get  update that was largely   kde stuff.  anyone have a similar experience or know how to look into the issue?
[00:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> Hmm, guess I wilkl ask here soince every channel before has been clueless
[00:53] <GiGaHuRtZ> I decided to dig out my brandnew never used 7 inch TFT resistive touchscreen, to have a little fun
[00:53] <GiGaHuRtZ> Well, it works in KDE as a display, and the touchscreen works, but the problem is it acts a touchpad point device
[00:53] <GiGaHuRtZ> I dont know how to get it to work as touchpad
[00:54] <GiGaHuRtZ> The companies support is very pooor,m and havent published drivers since K24 and K27
[00:54] <GiGaHuRtZ> 26*
[00:54] <GiGaHuRtZ> Apparently there 3.xs kernels have some sort of module that I believe works with the device, and I have it loaded
[00:54] <GiGaHuRtZ> Restarted x etc, no difference
[00:55] <GiGaHuRtZ> Im clueless with touchscreens, so im a bit lost
[01:03] <GiGaHuRtZ> Guess i  will see if i can get going in 8.1
[01:24] <fractaline> i've also got what seems to me like a huge memory leak from plasma..   system activity says it's using 2.7gig of 3.7...
[01:26] <greg__> hello
[01:27] <fractaline> system is SO slow.
[02:30] <fractaline> ok, system seems better after removing plasma config files and restarting but still can't enable opengl...    i'd love to know what to do next...
[02:49] <em> Do any of you think that the latest kubuntu would be suitable for my elderly mother?
[02:49] <em> who is not a computer person by any means
[02:51] <fractaline> em, kde can be overwhelming to set up but once done it is easy to use
[02:51] <fractaline> the ultimate custom desktop
[02:52] <fractaline> everything exactiy where and how you want it
[02:57] <juacom99> hi, one question, when i search someting at the launcher i keep getting old results. any way to get ride of theme?
[03:48] <autista> lolbuntu maximum rice edition
[04:07] <^catalyst> hello
[04:57] <em> fractaline: cool. Yeah so I would probably set it all up for her and then just let her use it. Her needs are very basic.
[04:58] <em> fractaline: the one thing im worried about is being able to setup her hp wireless printer-scanner
[04:58] <em> does kubuntu have a good system for recognizing and using printers?
[04:58] <valorie> why not try it out with a liveDVD or USB?
[04:58] <valorie> then you can be sure
[04:59] <em> I suppose I will try
[04:59] <em> If I get the latest Kubuntu regular version will it be able to LiveDVD ?
[04:59] <valorie> it will make both of you feel more secure
[05:00] <valorie> all the released ISOs will work as liveDVDs
[05:00] <valorie> unless they are old, and say they are not
[05:01] <em> ok
[05:01] <valorie> we have no alternate install DVDs anymore
[05:47] <em> valorie: but then how do you do things like full disk encryption?
[05:47] <valorie> use the live media to test things out
[05:47] <valorie> not as a permanent solution
[05:49] <em> valorie: no im saying, since you have no more alt DVDS anymore, how would a person who uses kubuntu set up something like full disk encryption ?
[05:49] <em> i always used the alt cds for that
[05:49] <valorie> I've never done it, but I believe that is one of the choices offered as you install
[05:51] <valorie> em: http://laffers.net/howtos/install-kubuntu-10-10-with-full-disk-encryption/
[05:51] <valorie> is just the top link I get when googling full disk encryption kubuntu
[05:53] <mojo706> hello, quick question. If you have Kubuntu then install xfce then you have Xubuntu?
[05:54] <valorie> mojo706: how did you install xfce?
[05:54] <Unit193> Not precisely, but why would you need Xubuntu if you just want Xfce?
[05:55] <mojo706> valorie, its not me its a question on UF about xfce
[05:56] <mojo706> Unit193, I didn't know the difference
[06:00] <valorie> mojo706: I would think that if you apt-get install xfce-desktop, then you will be able to choose xubuntu in grub
[06:00] <valorie> however, having never tried it, I can't say for sure
[06:01] <valorie> you might ask in #xubuntu
[06:01] <valorie> where the experts live
[06:17] <mojo706> thanks valorie
[06:27] <em> valorie: looks like Kubuntu  having no more altDVDs is a serious problem.
[06:30] <valorie> why is that?
[06:31] <em> Because I really liked to be able to put full disk encryption on my laptop with the alt DVD
[06:31] <em> looking at those instructions you linked, that was for 10.10 and its really opaque.
[06:31] <valorie> can you use the server CD to do that?
[06:32] <valorie> well, I just gave you the top match
[06:32] <em> I dont know
[06:32] <em> maybe i could use an ubuntu alt DVD if they still make them, and then put kubuntu-desktop on it
[06:32] <em> i bet that won't be the same tho
[06:32] <valorie> we don't have enough people to continue to provide the alt-CD
[06:32] <jussi> em: Im pretty sure the full disk encryption was added to unity
[06:33] <jussi> err
[06:33] <jussi> not unity
[06:33] <jussi> the installer that I forget the name of :D
[06:33] <em> hm, what do you mean?
[06:34] <tsimpson> ubiquity
[06:35] <jussi> tsimpson: thanks :)
[06:35] <em> is ubiquity the way that kubuntu is installed on the normal DVD now?
[06:35] <tsimpson> ubiquity is what all the ubuntu's use as the graphical installer
[06:35] <jussi> http://www.ozzyfrank.com/Ubuntu/images/ad-Kubuntu-Ubiquity-Partitioner_th.jpg
[06:35] <em> oh and full disk encryption is an option on there now?
[06:36] <jussi> see picture :)
[06:37] <valorie> I thought I remembered that it was.....
[06:37] <c-c-m> hello can anyone tell me how can I  add plugins to kdevelop?
[06:38] <em> jussi: that looks promising as long as you want to use your whole disk.
[06:38] <c-c-m> I'm trying to follow this tutorial http://nikosams.blogspot.com.es/2010/02/kdevelop-xdebug-php-debugger.html
[06:38] <em> jussi: the problem can come if you want to dual boot and have enryption on the linux side
[06:38] <c-c-m> and I don't know how to install execturebrowser plugin from here: http://download.kde.org/unstable/kdevelop/3.9.98/src
[06:38] <jussi> em: selecct manual
[06:38] <em> but then you won't get to encrypt
[06:55] <syria> Hi ! after downloading anything using firefox, Double click on the downloaded file will ask me which app is supposed to run this file! I don't get this with firefox on unity or windows or anything else!
[07:00] <valorie> syria, you can set stuff like this in systemsettings
[07:01] <valorie> once set globally, you won't be asked again
[07:02] <syria> valorie:  Do you mean default applications?
[07:02] <valorie> yes
[07:05] <syria> valorie: but it doesn't mention .zip files or . jpg for example!
[07:06] <valorie> as I recall, there is usually a checkbox though: use this choice in the future, or some such
[07:07] <valorie> which should help
[07:07] <syria> valorie:  if you mark this checkbox all sorts of files will be opened using the same app.
[07:08] <valorie> right
[07:08] <syria> I have been suffering from this for a while. :(
[07:08] <valorie> isn't that the point?
[07:08] <syria> valorie:  if you mark the checkbox , .zip files and jpg and .deb will be opened the same app!
[07:08] <valorie> hmmm
[07:09] <valorie> that seems wrong
[07:09] <valorie> file-a-bugreport type wrong
[07:09] <syria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/953700  it is already there but there is no useful solution.
[07:13] <jussi> em: yes you do, iirc, you get to choose if you encrypt the partition itself.
[08:22] <nick87720z> hello there. I'm again about that problem with gtk3 apps. Not even kde problem. It was xsettings-kde daemon, which caused gtk3 apps to apply default Raleigh style.
[08:23] <_droid> hi people, I tried to install the latest ruby from source and I think I screwed something up. Whenever changing or list the contents of a directory I get this message from bash:
[08:23] <_droid> -bash: /usr/share/ruby-rvm/scripts/initialize: No such file or directory
[08:23] <_droid> -bash: /usr/share/ruby-rvm/scripts/hook: No such file or directory
[08:23] <_droid> can someone help
[08:23] <nick87720z> Very strange, since according to description, this daemon should just remove necesarity to restart gtk3 stuff :/
[08:24] <nick87720z> some xsettings-kde bug
[08:25] <nick87720z> _droid: Though i'm not persistent member of this channel... How this relates to kubuntu?
[08:25] <_droid> nick87720z: because my os is kubuntu
[08:26] <nick87720z> ah, probably :) i expected, that this channel is dedicated more to kde-specific discussions, is it not?
[08:31] <valorie> nick87720z: you might find more help in a ruby channel, though
[08:31] <nick87720z> _droid: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7694151/i-killed-rvm-now-i-have-a-bash-message
[08:31] <_droid> nick87720z: thank you
[08:31] <valorie> oops, that was for _droid
[08:31] <valorie> sorry
[08:32] <nick87720z> :)
[08:32] <valorie> there is #kde for strictly KDE questions
[08:33] <valorie> we try to cover all aspects of Kubuntu, but that doesn't mean that all experts in everything are here all the time
[08:39] <nick87720z> for gtk2 apps (tested audacious) xsettings-kde works correct
[08:50] <nick87720z> 3g modem failure :/
[08:51] <nick87720z> I checked, if that bug is caused by same as in xfce4 gtk3 theme was set equal to gtk2 one, but setting gtk2 to oxygen-kde did not work for gtk3
[10:39] <harshad> hi
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:07] <himanshu> Hi, i want to record my screen, how to do it in kubuntu 13.04
[12:09] <BluesKaj> himanshu, install recordmydesktop
[12:10] <BluesKaj> or recorditnow , which is the kde version I believe
[12:21] <randy__> hello
[12:22] <randy__> hello?
[12:23] <smartboyhw> Hello randy__
[12:24] <randy__> hello smartboyw, is this the place to ask Django questions?
[12:24] <smartboyhw> randy__: Hmm, not quite. Try #django or ##django (don't know which one)
[12:25] <randy__> ty
[13:05] <juanfgs> Hello there and thank you for your time. I don't know if this is the correct channel to ask, but yesterday I started using kOrganizer, but today I found out that all the tasks that I created yesterday were gone :(
[13:10] <BluesKaj> juanfgs, do you run kubuntu , or are you just asking because it uses kde?
[13:10] <juanfgs> I'm currently using kubuntu
[13:11] <juanfgs> I know it's a silly question but I coudln't find anything online about it, and just lost a bunch of tasks that I needed to do today :(
[13:15] <BluesKaj> juanfgs, make sure your akonadi server is running , i think korganizer uses it's database
[13:15] <juanfgs> let me see
[13:16] <juanfgs> it's running
[13:21] <BluesKaj> juanfgs, sorry but I don't know much about korganizer and akonadi , since i don't use the PIM system
[13:54] <crazyboy> hi,man
[13:56] <BluesKaj> hey
[13:57] <crazyboy> who is chinese?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> !cn
[13:57] <smartboyhw> Hello crazyboy, I'm from Hong Kong
[13:58] <crazyboy> wo
[13:59] <BluesKaj> what's with the "boy" thing with you guys ? :)
[13:59] <smartboyhw> .....
[14:00] <crazyboy> i'm new here
[14:00] <smartboyhw> I'm a boy
[14:00] <BluesKaj> yes crazyboy, I know
[14:01] <crazyboy> so ,someone can help me ,if you can speak chinese
[14:01] <BluesKaj> smartboyhw, there you go , crazyboy needs help
[14:02] <crazyboy> how do you know,BluseKaj?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> but i guess my post above didn't seem to register
[14:03] <BluesKaj> crazyboy, because you said so
[14:03] <crazyboy> ...............
[14:03] <crazyboy> i have no words
[14:04] <BluesKaj> no text ?
[14:07] <smartboyhw> crazyboy: What can I help then?
[14:07] <crazyboy> can you speak chinese?
[14:07] <crazyboy> if you can ,yes
[14:08] <smartboyhw> yes of course
[14:08] <crazyboy> 真的？
[14:09] <genii> crazyboy: The channels #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-tw would be more appropriate for help in the language you are asking
[14:15] <crazyboy> it's time to slepping,bye
[14:40] <palasso> I just noticed that package 'firefox' replaces package 'kubuntu-firefox-installer'. Till now I was purging package 'kubuntu-firefox-installer' and then installing via the package manager package 'firefox'. So was it redundant that I was purging at first 'kubuntu-firefox-installer' ?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> palasso, may i ask why you were purging the installer ?
[14:50] <palasso> I preferred to install firefox without the installer but through the package manager as it were a normal package. Also since I install firefox that way, I don't really need the installer to be installed on my system.
[14:51] <palasso> Basically I am creating a markings file and preparing it for Kubuntu 13.10 and I am reviewing the different packages and their structure.
[14:52] <Raseran> hi
[15:02] <BluesKaj> well palasso I can tell you that the FF installer is still default in 13,.10
[15:13] <palasso> BluesKaj: I'm okay with it. I'm not here to open debates on what should be default in 13.10 :)
[15:13] <palasso> As a matter of fact I like Kubuntu that much that I'm installing the kubuntu-full metapackage ;)
[15:13] <BluesKaj> yeah , but I figured you might like to know , palasso
[15:14] <palasso> thnx, I had that in mind... Didn't expect to see it go away...
[15:15] <palasso> As a matter of fact there are some packages not on the repos and I might suggest in the future to be included
[15:16] <BluesKaj> I heard FF was dropping the ubuntu installer , so I guess (k)ubuntu are maintanimg it
[15:17] <palasso> ubuntu installer? I'm not familiar with that
[15:17] <BluesKaj> the ff installer
[15:18] <palasso> The ff installer is a kubuntu thing... I don't think it was ever on any other distro.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> I'd like to see some that are optional in the OS installer for example some kde PIM services that I will never use
[15:19] <palasso> you mean ubiquity-kde ?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:21] <palasso> I'd like to see a button that says "pick your own packages to be installed" and goes to a screen with Muon Package Manager. Then I would go File ---> Read Markings and  open my markings file with my set of package choices. It's what I do now after the installation ;)
[15:21] <BluesKaj> ubiquity still doesn't recognize some of my hardware and it stops dead, even with dailies in 13.10
[15:21] <BluesKaj> so I'm forced to use the internet do-release
[15:22] <BluesKaj> for last 2 kubuntu OSs
[15:23] <palasso> :(
[15:25] <BluesKaj> palasso, yes , i like your idea of the optional manual package install , apart from the default which should excluse PIMs and any search/index apps etc
[15:26] <BluesKaj> err exclude
[15:26] <palasso> Isn't there a kubuntu-minimal metapackage?
[15:27] <palasso> The alternate installer had the ability to choose from different metapackages (e.g. I'd choose from that 'kubuntu-full')
[15:28] <BluesKaj> i miss the alternate install , i preferred it to the auto
[16:25] <oleg_> test
[17:16] <Di3mex> I'm trying to add virtual desktops to my activities. I want something like this: [Chat] - {skype} {irc} , [Desktop] {chrome}{firefox}{music}. with [an activity] {a virtual desktop}. Problem is that if I change virtual desktops on one activity it changes them on all other activities too.
[17:18] <Di3mex> I want 4 virtual desktops on the one activity and 2 on the other. Is that possible?
[17:18] <Di3mex> Am I in the right channel?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> Di3mex, i really don't know much about activity options and features , try the #kde chat
[17:22] <Di3mex> BluesKaj: thanks, I will try to get an answer there.
[17:23] <BluesKaj> dijonyummy, stay here as well , someone who knows your answer might join
[17:23] <BluesKaj> oops
[17:32] <nick87720z> hello there
[17:32] <nick87720z> Is it possible, to change oxygen background style for gui (not kwin decoration)?
[17:34] <nick87720z> I don't recall, did i achieve that earlier (one or more years ago), but currently i don't se nothing looking like that neither in configuration dialog, nor in oxygenrc.
[17:35] <nick87720z> My problem is that primary style (qt4/gtk2) is qtcurve, when gtk3 is oxygen.
[17:36] <nick87720z> qtcurve: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/31/screen1.png
[17:38] <nick87720z> for others decoration is opaque, so it could be solid together oxygen-styled windows, but background enlightenment breaks this
[18:32] <Guest15394> 123
[19:21] <Okitain> Hi guys. My touchpad doesn't work after an upgrade and erasing my xorg.conf for technical reasons. I can't find it in lspci/lsusb, and synaptik doesn't find it either. In Mageia that I run in dualboot, it works fine. What can the issue be?
[19:27] <mluser-laptop> Anyone know if the ubuntu-sdk can be installed into kubuntu 12.04 without causing dependency nightmares?
[19:39]  * genii contemplates chroot + xephyr
[19:47] <Okitain> mluser-laptop: should be.
[19:53] <mluser-laptop> Okitain: thanks for the response.. I already tried.. and now I'm fixing a bunch of broken packages.  qtchooser, seems to be the culprit atm
[19:54] <Okitain> Hmm, my up-to-date kubuntu suggests only qt4-defaults for uninstallation.
[19:54] <mluser-laptop> I think I got the same message.. but several packages errored out in the configure/settup phase
[21:01] <dougl> cant seem to be able to install 12.04 on my new notebook - any suggestions?
[21:13] <exosus> where can i find kmix options?
[21:14] <lethu> exosus, go to the systray
[21:14] <lethu> the click the sound icon
[21:14] <lethu> then on the "mixer" button
[21:15] <lethu> then "settings" and then "configure kmix"
[21:16] <exosus> lethu, thanks ;)
[21:16] <lethu> exosus, yw
[21:54] <dougl> anyone know how I can force install kubuntu on a asus g75v
[22:11] <robotdevil> dougl: why wouldnt it go on?
[22:15] <dougl> pos
[22:16] <dougl> I have never been able to install any flavour of ubuntu with out some tooth pulling
[22:16] <keithzg> Hmm, I just installed Kubuntu 13.04 on an Acer C7 (a chromebook). None of the alternate functions of the F keys (like brightness, volume, etc) seem to work. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:17] <exosus> keithzg, maybe you have to try to set them manually?
[22:17] <keithzg> exosus: Yeah, that's what I'
[22:18] <keithzg> m resorting to. But that means they won't work if not logged in, for example (mostly just a tingle issue in the case of brightness controls, for example)
[22:18] <exosus> i see
[22:19] <keithzg> And, after all, the settings are already set, for example, for "Volume Down" as the key for putting the volume down, so something's gone wrong with detecting that, at very least.
[22:20] <exosus> do chromebooks have a standalone buttons for functions? in my case i need to press fn key + f1..8
[22:20] <keithzg> exosus: Naw, it's the standard function+f# keys, but hitting fn+f# does nothing.
[22:21] <keithzg> Hmmm. And hitting Fn+F6 in the keybindings isn't even noticed. So I can't even manually set it. Sigh.
[22:23] <exosus> I am not experienced kubuntu user,  so sorry if my suggestions  turn out to be wrong. Maybe there is something  with keyboard layout?
[22:25] <keithzg> I doubt it. And I've read reports saying that the keys work fine under Ubuntu . . . but no way I want to run Unity, heh.
[22:25] <keithzg> (and, of course, it could've been broken by 13.04)
[22:27] <exosus> System Settings> Input Devices > Keyboard > Keyboard mode/ Advanced -> Alt/Win Key
[22:28] <exosus> have you tried playing with these?
[22:29] <keithzg> But, the problem isn't the meta key, it's the fn key, and how the input with Fn held down is somehow not being acknowledged.
[22:34] <robotdevil> can anyone tell me if the kubuntu 13.04 manual partitioning  installer bug is fixed
[22:34] <exosus> as i've checked on my kubuntu, whenever i press fn key standalone or when i use it in this way: "fn"+"=" it doesnt recognize fn key
[22:36] <exosus> and when i use it with arrows or f# it changes name to "Volume up/down" "Monitor Brightness.."
[22:39] <keithzg> Yeah, when I use it with F# it . . . does nothing at all.