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Raf | How can I help with YouTube? How much dev knowledge is needed? | 02:31 |
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dholbach | good morning | 07:08 |
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oSoMoN | gusch_: hey, quick and trivial MR up for review, when you have a moment: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/unskip-autopilot-test-special-chars/+merge/177747 | 08:45 |
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shrimp | hello | 08:59 |
shrimp | how can ubuntu-touch can support sprd phone? | 08:59 |
JamesTait | Good morning all, happy Uncommon Instrument Awareness Day! :-D | 09:00 |
WebbyIT | mhall119, hi :) I have a doubt about a copyright: we have a MR in u-calc with a file that is equal in rss app. In the copyright there is "This file is part of ubuntu-rssreader-app.", We have to change it? | 09:00 |
gusch_ | oSoMoN: I have troubles in running the test on maguro - so I trust you, and top approve | 09:00 |
oSoMoN | gusch_: thanks. what sort of troubles are you having? | 09:01 |
gusch_ | oSoMoN: I guess I messed up, when trying to abort a running test | 09:02 |
oSoMoN | gusch_: then just shell into the device, use ps -ef to identify the autopilot process, and kill it | 09:02 |
gusch_ | oSoMoN: I rebootet and got some strange traceback (for the serve it seems) | 09:03 |
PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 09:09 |
gusch_ | oSoMoN: can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/camera-app/camera-focus-opacity-eventually/+merge/177765 | 09:22 |
oSoMoN | gusch_: sure | 09:23 |
oSoMoN | gusch_: it’s fishy that the CI autopilot tests passed… needs fixing | 09:31 |
oSoMoN | gusch_: could it be that the tests being run are not those of the generated packages? I’ve had a similar issue in the past with the browser | 09:32 |
gusch_ | oSoMoN: I'm relying on jenkins to run the tests (to save me some time), but it runs the wrong one?!? wtf | 09:49 |
oSoMoN | gusch_: not sure, just a guess, you might want to look at the detailed log to check the version of the packages being installed | 09:52 |
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WebbyIT | mhall119, hi :) I have a doubt about a copyright: we have a MR in u-calc with a file that is equal in rss app. In the copyright there is "This file is part of ubuntu-rssreader-app.", We have to change it? | 10:24 |
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hallino1 | Hello guys.. I'm newbie and it's my first and best time to get in in this fantastic project :) | 10:51 |
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om26er | mhall119, hi | 12:09 |
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coursar | hi to all. does someone try to use ubuntu-ui-toolkit port for windows (https://github.com/edwardoid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-win) ? | 13:10 |
mhall119 | hi om26er | 13:50 |
om26er | mhall119, the Unity Web API Reference does not open here: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps/ | 13:51 |
om26er | 404 Not Found | 13:52 |
mhall119 | om26er: thanks, fixed it | 13:53 |
om26er | cool | 13:53 |
WebbyIT | mhall119, hi :) I have a doubt about a copyright: we have a MR in u-calc with a file that is equal in rss app. In the copyright there is "This file is part of ubuntu-rssreader-app.", We have to change it? | 13:58 |
mhall119 | hey WebbyIT, can you send me a link to the MR? | 13:58 |
WebbyIT | mhall119, sure :) https://code.launchpad.net/~dgadomski/ubuntu-calculator-app/relative-time-formatting/+merge/177651 | 13:58 |
mhall119 | WebbyIT: if it's copied from the rss reader, then leaving that header is fine | 14:00 |
mhall119 | bzoltan: ^^ this might be something to consider for the SDK itself, this dateutils.js is general enough that many apps might want it | 14:01 |
WebbyIT | mhall119, ok, thanks, so I'm going to approve it | 14:01 |
* bzoltan is wondering.. who? What? When? | 14:02 | |
mhall119 | bzoltan: there's a small dateutils.js that's now being shared between the calculator and rss reader core apps | 14:02 |
mhall119 | it currently just converts a datetime diff to plain text | 14:03 |
bzoltan | mhall119: that sounds handy | 14:03 |
mhall119 | but we had discussed building a process to include things like that in the SDK, and this seemed like a good candidate | 14:03 |
bzoltan | mhall119: to be frank, we have not gave much thought to the question of how to centralize and distribute js functions like this. | 14:04 |
bzoltan | mhall119: But it should be doable | 14:04 |
mhall119 | zsombi: back from holiday? | 14:07 |
gusch | om26er: can you check, why jenkis passed that autopilot test? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/camera-app/camera-focus-opacity-eventually/+merge/177765 | 14:07 |
zsombi | mhall119: yep :) | 14:07 |
om26er | gusch, looking, so we don't want the test to pass ? ;) | 14:08 |
mhall119 | zsombi: \o/ | 14:08 |
mhall119 | zsombi: are you able to start work on the alarm API? | 14:09 |
zsombi | mhall119: already working on that | 14:09 |
gusch | om26er: no - my test code there is bogus (I won't push the fix, before I know why it passed, although it clearly shouldn't) | 14:09 |
mhall119 | \o/ again! | 14:09 |
om26er | gusch, seems the package was installed from the ppa instead of the one that was build with your branch | 14:09 |
om26er | gusch, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5932891/ | 14:10 |
gusch | om26er: how can this happen? | 14:10 |
gusch | om26er: and how can we prevent this from happening again | 14:10 |
WebbyIT | yeah, great zsombi :) nik90 will be happy :D | 14:10 |
om26er | gusch, I am not sure yet, I could do some apt-pinning to make sure the local repository always gets the priority | 14:11 |
om26er | mzanetti, ping | 14:11 |
mzanetti | hey om26er | 14:12 |
zsombi | WebbyIT: let's see how happy he will be :) not sure whether the backend is ready for us.. renato said he will work on that starting somewhere next week, so we will do this together | 14:12 |
om26er | mzanetti, remember the last time when the package that was installed in generic-mediumtests-runner was the one from the ppa instead of the local build ? | 14:12 |
om26er | mzanetti, that's happening again | 14:13 |
WebbyIT | zsombi, cool! | 14:13 |
om26er | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-saucy/1475/console | 14:13 |
mzanetti | om26er: merge trunk | 14:15 |
om26er | gusch, ^ | 14:15 |
mzanetti | om26er: gusch: if trunk has a higher version number and is already released, apt will pick that one | 14:16 |
WebbyIT | mhall119, I had an idea, maybe it's a stupid thing, but I would like to know your opinion... it's something for the future | 14:16 |
WebbyIT | mhall119, we can do something like a tutorial for the first start of an app, with a little popup with basic functions (eg, in calc, touch here to insert a label), I think can be useful for new users | 14:16 |
om26er | mzanetti, thanks :) | 14:16 |
mzanetti | om26er: gusch: your development branches version should always be >= the released one | 14:16 |
gusch | om26er mzanetti: not cool | 14:16 |
gusch | om26er mzanetti so I always have to merge trunk before pushing | 14:17 |
mhall119 | WebbyIT: it might, though I think it would be better if it was intuitive enough that people could figure it out | 14:17 |
mzanetti | gusch: if you have some regexp-fu at hand to blacklist versions higher than the one with "autopilot" in its name for apt, let me know | 14:17 |
mhall119 | having the pencil icon, for example, is a pretty strong hint that you can edit those lines on the calculator, but it doesn't necessary hint that it's editing labels instead of the number | 14:17 |
gusch | mzanetti om26er what about using dpkg instead of apt-get? | 14:18 |
mzanetti | gusch: om26er: thinking more about it... this job actually does merge with trunk | 14:18 |
mhall119 | so maybe having a different icon that is a pencil and the letter A together would be a better clue that it's editing text | 14:18 |
WebbyIT | mhall119, so I think we have to work on this side, because we have something not very clear, like editing icon | 14:18 |
mzanetti | gusch: dpkg doesn't install dependencies | 14:18 |
gusch | mzanetti: but that could be separately | 14:18 |
mzanetti | gusch: how? | 14:19 |
hallino1 | Hello nik90 , I'm new on ubuntu touch and I want learn by start with some easy app.. I ping you because my friend (PaoloRotolo) told me that you're really helpful .. Thanks if you can help me :) | 14:19 |
gusch | mzanetti: there for sure is a apt-get command ... | 14:19 |
hallino1 | Oh, hey guys! :) | 14:19 |
mhall119 | hi hallino1 | 14:19 |
WebbyIT | mhall119, yeah, we have design meeting on friday, I'll ask to designers :) | 14:19 |
gusch | mzanetti: in worst case install via apt-get, and then install again via dpkg | 14:19 |
hallino1 | Hey mhall119 , how things going? | 14:19 |
mzanetti | gusch: unfortunately there isn't... I've spend a freakin week to figure how to automatically install packages with dependencies | 14:19 |
mhall119 | hallino1: good | 14:19 |
hallino1 | Nice mhall119 :) | 14:19 |
mhall119 | hallino1: there's a getting started guide you can follow here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide | 14:19 |
mzanetti | gusch: yeah... the downgrade with dpkg might work indeed | 14:20 |
mzanetti | om26er: mind trying that? ^ | 14:20 |
hallino1 | mhall119, thanks friend, i'm reading :P | 14:20 |
mzanetti | om26er: leave the apt-get install stuff as is, and when that is done, use dpkg -i do downgrade to the local package files again | 14:20 |
mhall119 | balloons: I also have a series of blog posts about the different core apps and what needs to be done on them: http://mhall119.com/ | 14:21 |
hallino1 | mhall119, ah just one thing.. Can ubuntu touch able to "read" with speech an input text? | 14:21 |
hallino1 | (Sorry for my bad english :( ) | 14:21 |
om26er | mzanetti, why not apt-pinning then ? | 14:21 |
gusch | om26er: and for testing, you can run that MR :) | 14:21 |
mhall119 | hallino1: the shell/HUD has some support for that, using pocketsphinx, but none of the apps do | 14:21 |
hallino1 | Oh thanks mhall119 .. I asked this because I have a really nice idea that can beat up iOs and Android.. And this will be really helpful for people who need | 14:22 |
mzanetti | om26er: tbh my apt-skills are not as good as they should be.. if you manage to do that with pinning, feel free. I remember I ran into some issue with that too so I had to bump the version number to "+autopilot" | 14:22 |
mzanetti | om26er: well, I guess one last-resort hack would be to bump the major version number for the autopilot job. | 14:23 |
hallino1 | mhall119, and maybe can be a core app :) | 14:23 |
om26er | mzanetti, with apt-pinning we give higher priority to the local repository, so that way we'll make sure to install packages that are downloaded from generic-mediumtest-builder | 14:23 |
om26er | that's fully reliable | 14:23 |
mzanetti | om26er: yeah... but when external dependencies come in that crapped out at some point. don't remember exact details | 14:24 |
hallino1 | And sorry mhall119 ubuntu touch have also something that let me to know the gps position? | 14:26 |
mhall119 | hallino1: maybe, we've had several apps that were written independently then brought into the core apps project | 14:26 |
mhall119 | hallino1: you will be able to use the Qt Location API for that | 14:26 |
mhall119 | it will use gps or geoip, depending on what's available | 14:26 |
hallino1 | mhall119, yeah of course, first I will write then, we will see | 14:26 |
hallino1 | mhall119, oh that's cool.. Thanks again :) | 14:27 |
hallino1 | mhall119, oh my God, the speech it's fantastic (I saw video).. And for let ubuntu touch speak maybe a text? | 14:37 |
hallino1 | With google I can't find anything | 14:37 |
om26er | gusch, I have pushed the fix and re-ran that job, now expect it to fail | 15:20 |
gusch | om26er: cool | 15:20 |
gusch | oSoMoN: https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/+junk/jenkinsTestOnDevice | 15:50 |
gusch | oSoMoN: you can test it like this: jenkinsTestOnDevice.py http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/gallery-app-saucy-armhf-ci/185/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip | 15:51 |
gusch | oSoMoN: to review https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-toolbar-reveal/+merge/177824 | 15:51 |
gusch | oSoMoN: hmmm - although I got 22 errors out of 23 - hmmmm | 15:54 |
gusch | oSoMoN: omer fixed to run always the correct test, so I pushed the fix for https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/camera-app/camera-focus-opacity-eventually/+merge/177765 | 15:55 |
oSoMoN | gusch: about to leave in 5min max, I can check that the code looks ok, but won’t have time to run the tests on my device | 15:57 |
gusch | oSoMoN: no worries - let's do it tomorrow | 15:57 |
PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 16:03 |
om26er | mzanetti, Hi! you must know about the unity8 shell autopilot tests that when those tests run a new instance of unity is started, we'd want to make sure there is only 1 unity running, how does it feel to stop unity for that ? | 17:10 |
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nik90 | PaoloRotolo: Hi :) | 17:34 |
PaoloRotolo | Hi nik90 :) | 17:35 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, I'm trying to add a dialog before deleting an alarm preset (or a city) like "Are you sure that you want to delete this preset?" | 17:38 |
PaoloRotolo | I think that an item can be deleted too simply (with a wrong gesture) | 17:39 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: That needs a confirmation from the design team. | 17:40 |
PaoloRotolo | oh, ok.. | 17:41 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: But I will ask the designers tomorrow | 17:41 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: Do you want to join the meeting tomorrow? | 17:41 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, nice :) BTW, what they said about laps? | 17:42 |
nik90 | I remember there were 2 questions you wanted to raise with the design team? | 17:42 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: I couldnt ask them last week about the laps since the designer was off sick. | 17:42 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, that would be great :D | 17:42 |
nik90 | So we can ask these 2 questions tomorrow. | 17:42 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, nice, it's a IRC meeting right? | 17:43 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: no its on G+ Hangout | 17:43 |
PaoloRotolo | is it* | 17:43 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: tomorrow at 16:00 UTC | 17:43 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: is that okay? | 17:44 |
PaoloRotolo | oh, I'm afraid that I can't join it. I brought a new desktop computer the last week (the old was a laptop with microphone incorporated) and now I'm without microphone/webcam | 17:44 |
PaoloRotolo | I can use the chat instead | 17:45 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: you can type your questions and also more importantly listen to the conversations. | 17:45 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: Do you want to check now with me if you are able to join a google hangout? | 17:46 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, ok, thanks! | 17:46 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, you've to talk very slowly. I've a lot of problems with spoken English :P | 17:48 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: no worries. Give me a minute. I need to fix my hangout. | 17:48 |
PaoloRotolo | I never spoken (very) English before (except in my classroom) :) | 17:49 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, don't worry, no problems :) | 17:50 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: Just invited you to my hangout. | 17:50 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, oh, I've to install a plug-in | 17:50 |
PaoloRotolo | one minute | 17:51 |
PaoloRotolo | lol, software center just crashed :/ | 17:52 |
AskUbuntu | How can I populate ListItem.ValueSelector with values from model | http://askubuntu.com/q/327079 | 17:53 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: Just sent you the invite to your email. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow :-) | 17:59 |
PaoloRotolo | nik90, nice, thanks again! | 17:59 |
nik90 | PaoloRotolo: np | 17:59 |
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