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| ev | Hi guys. | 15:00 |
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| ev | Steve is off today and has asked me to step in. | 15:00 |
| ev | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Wed Jul 31 15:00:37 2013 UTC. The chair is ev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:00 |
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| ev | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:00 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| ev | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev cjwatson xnox) | 15:00 |
| ev | stgraber xnox cjwatson doko ev barry jodh | 15:01 |
| doko | slangasek not here? | 15:01 |
| cjwatson | He's at the Isle of Man client sprint and unavailable | 15:01 |
| stgraber | xnox: I'm on vacation, so it's your turn | 15:02 |
| ev | oh right, apols :) | 15:02 |
| xnox | * Last week wed-sun was on holiday | 15:02 |
| xnox | * From the week before, android and blobs are packaged and uploaded | 15:02 |
| xnox | into ubuntu universe. | 15:02 |
| xnox | * M.I.R. for above is filed, and in-progress (need to answer security | 15:02 |
| xnox | enquiries). | 15:02 |
| xnox | * TODO: automate "binNMU"/daily building of android package (such that | 15:02 |
| xnox | I'm not the only one who can/knows how to upload it) | 15:02 |
| xnox | * Working on sorting out btrfs mounting/fsck once and for all & get | 15:02 |
| xnox | btrfs in sync between Debian & Ubuntu. Should be fine with -5 | 15:02 |
| xnox | update. | 15:02 |
| xnox | * Working on sorting out ubiquity: outstanding merge proposals & U1 | 15:02 |
| cjwatson | xnox: Ah, you sorted out your internet troubles then | 15:02 |
| xnox | login page. | 15:03 |
| xnox | * Verified pending-removal SRU bugs for mdadm & partman-lvm | 15:03 |
| xnox | * Trying to help resolve bug 1197766, initially provided workaround | 15:03 |
| xnox | was not sufficient | 15:03 |
| ubottu | bug 1197766 in OEM Priority Project "Different partition layout after recovery with keep home partition" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197766 | 15:03 |
| xnox | .. | 15:03 |
| xnox | stgraber: touche =) i was out last week ;-) | 15:03 |
| xnox | cjwatson: yes. they trigger full line resynchronisation via automated telephone option selection. Which got my line back up. | 15:03 |
| xnox | so was only a short down-time <<30minuts. | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | Release engineering sprint. Spent most of the second half of the week implementing build cancellation: | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | - https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/buildstatus-aborted/+merge/176990 | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | - https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad-buildd/fix-abort/+merge/177003 | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | - https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/buildmaster-cancel-properly/+merge/177580 | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | I'm still awaiting some reviews and will probably need to make some changes, but the bulk of it is done. | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | foundations-1305-click-package: | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | - Various minor tweaks to prepare for the IoM demo. Bug 1204523 was especially entertaining to fix. | 15:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1204523 in click (Ubuntu) "Click packages can't be installed from directories not viewable by the clickpkg user" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204523 | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | - Fixed rather embarrassing Unicode support failures. | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | foundations-1305-arm64-bringup: | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | - Bent juju-core to my will to bootstrap a new build farm, after the Canonistack LCY02 instance-deletion instance. | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | - Tried to get some saucy builds working. Currently blocked on some tail-ends of toolchain rebootstrapping, but should be able to start helping out again soon. | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | .. | 15:05 |
| doko | - arm64 bootstrap (later more) | 15:05 |
| doko | - MIR's | 15:05 |
| doko | - binutils update | 15:05 |
| doko | (done) | 15:05 |
| ev | - I've spent much of the week continuing to get mobile error reporting up and | 15:06 |
| ev | running. We now have whoopsie and apport on the Touch images as well as a | 15:06 |
| ev | settings page for controlling reporting. I have a meeting later this week | 15:06 |
| ev | with Katherine to discuss enabling reporting by default. | 15:06 |
| ev | - I've run into what looks like a race condition on whoopsie startup on the | 15:06 |
| ev | Touch images, which prevent it from uploading reports. I'm taking the | 15:06 |
| ev | opportunity to build some more tests into things like whoopsie-preferences | 15:06 |
| ev | (hooray for dbus-test-runner, by the way) as I get to the bottom of this. | 15:06 |
| ev | - Work continues on the Cassandra crisis. You may have noticed that | 15:06 |
| ev | https://errors.ubuntu.com is only showing data from the past week or so. We | 15:06 |
| ev | had to cut over to a new database. Nothing is lost. We're backing up the old | 15:06 |
| ev | database and will merge in the data when that is complete. If you don't | 15:06 |
| ev | UGH. Die pidgin. | 15:06 |
| ev | right, https://pastebin.canonical.com/95283/ | 15:06 |
| ev | done! | 15:06 |
| barry | ev: i don't use dbus-test-runner, but i managed to finally track down a very interesting (and annoying) behavior in the underlying dbus libraries ;) | 15:07 |
| ev | errr http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933046/ :) | 15:07 |
| barry | image based updates: LP: #1206515; LP: #1206558; LP: #1206523; LP: #1204528; LP: #1204976; various dbus api changes for better u/i integration; upload 0.9, 0.9.1, 0.9.2 | 15:07 |
| ev | barry: oh? | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1206515 in Ubuntu system image "dbus service requires /tmp/system-image directory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206515 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1206558 in Ubuntu system image "system-image-dbus should run on system bus" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206558 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1206523 in Ubuntu system image "Need a system dbus policy for the system dbus service" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206523 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1204528 in Ubuntu system image "Add DBus mocks for u/i testing" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204528 | 15:07 |
| barry | other: LP: #1073919; LP: #1205505; LP: #1181814; python-webob 1.2.3-3 (py3 support) and 1.2.3-4, debian bug 717655; PEP 394 (shebang lines); emacs 24.3 bug fix and upload; python-coverage review | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1204976 in Ubuntu system image "Rename IsUpdateAvailable() and make it non-blocking" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204976 | 15:07 |
| ev | ah nice | 15:07 |
| barry | in progress: LP: #1206866, system-image 0.9.3 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1073919 in command-not-found (Ubuntu Raring) "Crash with Python 3" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1073919 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1205505 in python-gnupg (Ubuntu) "Sync python-gnupg 0.3.4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1205505 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1181814 in wsjt (Ubuntu) "Crash: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'isNumberType'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1181814 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 717655 in python-webob "python-webob: Add python 3 support" [Wishlist,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/717655 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1206866 in Ubuntu system image "Dies with dotted version numbers? - TypeError: unorderable types: Image() < Image()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206866 | 15:07 |
| barry | ev: yeah, so i use $DBUS_SYSTEM_BUS_ADDRESS envar to rendezvous on a private bus... | 15:08 |
| barry | turns out that once libdbus is intiialized, it never consults that envar again | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | How did the image-based-updates demo go? | 15:08 |
| ev | ha! | 15:08 |
| barry | so you can't change it and expect the same process to rendezvous on a different bus address | 15:09 |
| barry | cjwatson: mixed i think. they got some weird bug that i don't understand at all but eventually got it to update and reboot | 15:09 |
| barry | cjwatson: and of course it wfm here locally :/ | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | All the best bugs are like that | 15:09 |
| barry | cjwatson: anyway, that's LP: #1206866, ongoing | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1206866 in Ubuntu system image "Dies with dotted version numbers? - TypeError: unorderable types: Image() < Image()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206866 | 15:10 |
| * barry is very happy that phablet-flash now allows --ubuntu-bootstrap and -r -2 | 15:10 | |
| cjwatson | (Oh, I forgot to mention, I'm also working on implementing the "devel" series alias for saucy) | 15:10 |
| barry | (allows you to flash to an older image) | 15:10 |
| barry | cjwatson: nice | 15:10 |
| barry | anyway... | 15:10 |
| barry | done | 15:10 |
| ev | :) | 15:10 |
| ev | [TOPIC] Bugs | 15:10 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs | ||
| ev | No Brian. | 15:10 |
| xnox | ev: paste.canonical.com instead of paste.ubuntu.com ? not using pastebinit? =) | 15:10 |
| ev | Does anyone have bugs worth a mention? | 15:11 |
| ev | xnox: that would've been the smart thing to do | 15:11 |
| jodh | erm, shall I go at the end? :) | 15:11 |
| ev | OH HAI | 15:11 |
| ev | jodh: you're up | 15:11 |
| cjwatson | Steve asked me to get back to bug 1065281, so I'm going to have to roll up my sleeves again on that :-/ | 15:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1065281 in OEM Priority Project quantal "Installer crashed when trying to partition 4k/4k sector hard disks" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065281 | 15:11 |
| ev | soz. I copy and pasted from when you weren't here :) | 15:11 |
| cjwatson | But nothing interesting to talk about as yet | 15:11 |
| jodh | * foundations-1305-upstart-work-items: | 15:11 |
| jodh | - Finished the upstart-dconf-bridge and raised MP: | 15:11 |
| jodh | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/upstart-dconf-bridge/+merge/177650 | 15:11 |
| jodh | - Upstart integration tests (DEP-8): | 15:11 |
| * ev nods | 15:11 | |
| jodh | - Updated python Upstart test module and resubmitted MP: | 15:11 |
| jodh | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/python-upstart-module/+merge/157549 | 15:11 |
| jodh | - Spent remainder of time working on DEP-8 scripts to make use of | 15:11 |
| jodh | nested pristine VM which will be provided by autopkgtest | 15:11 |
| jodh | environment. Attempted to use NBD to mount VM disk and configure | 15:11 |
| jodh | in chroot but requires too many hacks. Plan is now to boot VM, ssh | 15:11 |
| jodh | in to configure it, reboot, then run tests, but use NBD to collect | 15:11 |
| jodh | results data (ongoing). | 15:12 |
| jodh | * upstart: | 15:12 |
| jodh | - upstart-text-bridge simplified (local sockets only), renamed to | 15:12 |
| jodh | upstart-local-bridge and MP raised: | 15:12 |
| jodh | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/upstart-local-bridge/+merge/177027 | 15:12 |
| jodh | - Investigated bugs 1205443 and 1202287 and merged the branch below that | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 1205443 could not be found | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 1202287 could not be found | 15:12 |
| slangasek | doko: mostly not here, no | 15:12 |
| jodh | will hopefully resolve the issue: | 15:12 |
| jodh | lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/quiesce-cleanup-fix | 15:12 |
| jodh | * misc | 15:12 |
| jodh | - debconf/LPC presentation: ongoing updates. | 15:12 |
| jodh | Ử | 15:12 |
| ev | [TOPIC] arm64 bootstrap | 15:12 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: arm64 bootstrap | ||
| barry | ev: i finally got fixed a looooongggg standing emacs bug that was annoying the crap out of me for years :) | 15:12 |
| ev | Steve asked doko to bring us up to speed on the arm64 bootstrap | 15:12 |
| ev | With that, I yield to doko :) | 15:12 |
| ev | barry: :D | 15:13 |
| doko | Aarch64 bootstrap - how we did start ... | 15:13 |
| ev | was the fix to use Vim instead? | 15:13 |
| * barry is not amused | 15:13 | |
| ogra_ | instead ?? | 15:13 |
| doko | (just waiting between my pastes ...) | 15:13 |
| doko | - Start with armhf. It's in the archive, we know that it does build (or not). | 15:13 |
| doko | - Build an armhf buildd chroot entirely with cross-built packages | 15:13 |
| doko | - Use staged builds (DEB_STAGE=stage1) to break cyclic dependencies, or not to build unnecessary/unbuildable binary packages. | 15:13 |
| doko | - Make sure that the cross-built chroot is usable. | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | the fix always involves vim ... no matter what fix :P | 15:13 |
| doko | - Build and package the Aarch64 cross toolchain | 15:14 |
| doko | - Start the cross build again, targeting Aarch64 | 15:14 |
| doko | - Fix Aarch64 specific bugs during that cross-build | 15:14 |
| doko | - Finally had a build chroot + debhelper available (April) | 15:14 |
| doko | - Make sure that it works using the foundations model (simulator). | 15:14 |
| doko | - Building gnu-hello takes over an hour. | 15:14 |
| doko | we got to this state in April | 15:14 |
| doko | - During saucy ... start building native packages (with nocheck enabled). | 15:15 |
| doko | - Build with nocheck. Good enogh if the package builds and can be used as a b-d | 15:15 |
| doko | - We don't have any sbuild or dep-wait information, so set a goal to build a package. Starting with ... you guess it ... the toolchain. | 15:15 |
| doko | - For warming up, binutils | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | Turns out we've built the toolchain several times ;-) | 15:15 |
| cjwatson | I think of it as a stress-test of "Reflections on Trusting Trust" | 15:15 |
| doko | - Build-depends: bison, flex, gettext, texinfo, dejagnu, quilt, file, xz-utils, lsb-release, zlib1g-dev | 15:15 |
| doko | - Identify the b-d's which are only needed for running the tests. Here: dejagnu | 15:15 |
| doko | cjwatson, not just the toolchain =) | 15:15 |
| xnox | if gnu-hello takes over an hour, gcc 3 stage bootstrap took... weeks?! | 15:16 |
| doko | - Next eglibc .. b-d: libaudit-dev | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | (http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html in the unlikely event anyone hasn't encountered it) | 15:16 |
| doko | ... audit: b-d: libkrb5-dev, libldap2-dev, libprelude-dev, and finally systemd | 15:16 |
| doko | crap, maybe we come back later ... | 15:16 |
| doko | - Next gcc ... easy as binutils | 15:16 |
| doko | ... wait, except for gcj and needing gtk+2.0 ... | 15:16 |
| doko | - There are a lot of cyclic dependencies in the gtk stack. | 15:17 |
| doko | - Often not clear which ones are only used for testing. | 15:17 |
| doko | - gtk b-d's on cups, so disable | 15:17 |
| doko | - disable udeb builds, halfs the build time | 15:17 |
| doko | - Ok, now gcc did build | 15:17 |
| doko | - Next target: build LAMP ... | 15:17 |
| doko | Break it down: | 15:18 |
| doko | - build reduced build tools (cmake, doxygen without Qt) | 15:18 |
| doko | - build reduced openldap, krb5, heimdal | 15:18 |
| doko | - build reduced avahi | 15:18 |
| doko | - build databases postgres and mysql (without krb, heimdal) | 15:18 |
| doko | - build krb5, heimdal | 15:18 |
| doko | - build cyrus-sasl2 | 15:18 |
| doko | - build apache | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | The object of the exercise of course is to get to the point where we can start normal-ish autobuilds as quickly as possible. Did I hear correctly that we are at the point of being able to self-host sbuild soon? | 15:18 |
| doko | - build php5 | 15:18 |
| doko | - Any volunteers to test if that actually works? | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | Hm. I'm slightly surprised we're doing LAMP in stage1. I thought that was a stage2 target, or even something we'd want to push for early once we have builds in Launchpad | 15:19 |
| doko | well, busted1.53 did fail to build twice, and took the simulator down | 15:19 |
| cjwatson | Of course the bits that involve circular build-deps are worth doing in stage1 | 15:19 |
| * xnox giggles at busted1.53 | 15:19 | |
| doko | it's systemd, audit and things like that needing the crypto stuff, and the crypto stuff the database stuff | 15:20 |
| doko | so if sbuild can use dchroot, fine, else we need schroot first | 15:20 |
| doko | - A lot of packages have b-d's for documentation builds not in build-indep ... these should be fixed. | 15:20 |
| doko | - Finally I had to build texlive-bin. Running dh_autoreconf on 60+ configuries takes more than three days ... I start hating it. | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | I don't believe it can | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | dchroot is fairly dead except for the version built out of schroot | 15:21 |
| doko | have to finish my other builds before I give it a try. but it's the last package | 15:21 |
| doko | - And now we can build eglibc ... | 15:21 |
| doko | - Not the only cycles. In a lot of cases you have to see where it is the easiest way to break a cycle. Don't touch "uncommon" build systems. | 15:21 |
| doko | - Next steps: Get build-deps for qt4-x11 ready (almost done) | 15:21 |
| doko | - gstreamer (avoid gsl), gst-plugins (avoid external plugins) | 15:21 |
| doko | - Have a look at gtk+3.0 (install failure, don't understand it) | 15:22 |
| doko | - Have a look at the sound stack (pulseaudio, alsa, bluez) | 15:22 |
| doko | - Have a look at the video stack | 15:22 |
| doko | - Have a look at guile. The built interpreter doesn't terminate | 15:22 |
| doko | - Ocaml not yet ported, looks like other distros are working on that | 15:22 |
| doko | - How to build initramfs (klibc isn't yet ported, only used by Debian/Ubuntu) | 15:22 |
| doko | - Have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-aarch64 | 15:22 |
| doko | Help: How do identify both open and closed bugs, which either | 15:22 |
| doko | don't have a distro task, or have an open distro task? | 15:22 |
| doko | - Get dep-wait information for packages without trying to build them | 15:22 |
| doko | Just takes too long ... | 15:22 |
| doko | - Setup a sbuild which rebuilds already built but out-of-date packages | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | doko: Looked at edos-distcheck? | 15:22 |
| slangasek | doko: gtk+3.0> what fails to install? | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | That's what Debian's wanna-build uses | 15:22 |
| doko | not yet, chdist didn't work | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | chdist should work given that all sbuild is doing is an apt-get invocation | 15:23 |
| doko | slangasek, this is strange, I'll post the build log once it finishes again | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | And all chdist does is set up apt to look at different sources | 15:23 |
| xnox | doko: i'd also like to see gtk+3.0 fail to install errors / log. | 15:24 |
| doko | right, but it couldn't handle the saucy archive with the [armhf] identifier | 15:24 |
| doko | so the other blocker is guile (and we need it for autogen) | 15:24 |
| doko | - About packaging ... | 15:24 |
| doko | - Unneeded build-deps, or ones which should be in build-indep | 15:24 |
| doko | - shell script like makefiles (configure & build in one target) | 15:24 |
| doko | - no support for parallel builds | 15:24 |
| doko | - no support for staged builds | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | Still odd, since it doesn't parse sources.list itself :) | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | You might need to set APT::Architecture and/or APT::Architectures in the chdist environment's apt.conf | 15:25 |
| doko | I can give it a try later, I didn't care that much at the moment | 15:25 |
| doko | - About using the simulator: | 15:25 |
| doko | - Crashes sometimes, having to restart builds | 15:25 |
| doko | - The time is slower in the simulator. Uploading a package to saucy, then trying to build it has interesting effects (generated files are older than the one in the package). | 15:25 |
| doko | would love to install ntp, but that b-d's on autogen ... | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | I was about to say :) | 15:26 |
| doko | so, that's it what I did prepare ... | 15:27 |
| ev | thanks doko | 15:27 |
| slangasek | doko: how much is still being cross-built right now, vs. built under emulation? | 15:27 |
| doko | slangasek, for stage1 now nothing. but we didn't re-build cross-built packages from stage0 yet | 15:28 |
| doko | just when I noted issues, like the cross-built bash missing job control | 15:28 |
| * slangasek nods | 15:28 | |
| ev | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:28 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| ev | anything else? | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | We're keeping things reasonably separate between stage0 and stage1, but I'm working on a saucy-stage0 at the moment to see if I can make some cycles a bit easier to break | 15:29 |
| slangasek | brief update from the sprint? :) | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | (Since the raring-stage0 generally didn't use its own output to build, so it's only the first layer in a lot of cases) | 15:29 |
| ev | go for it :) | 15:29 |
| barry | slangasek: please! | 15:29 |
| slangasek | so click packages and system updates were both demoed this week | 15:29 |
| slangasek | the click package demo went off without a hitch (beuno clearly spent more time rehearsing than I did) | 15:30 |
| slangasek | very well-received | 15:30 |
| slangasek | and very close to being ready to go live, which is exciting | 15:30 |
| slangasek | the system updates demo had a few problems, but everything did come together well all things considered | 15:31 |
| cjwatson | beuno was doing little else but rehearsing from about last Wednesday :) | 15:31 |
| slangasek | and I've done several real upgrades through the UI, the code really does work :) | 15:31 |
| slangasek | so kudos to everyone who was involved in those two big pieces of work | 15:31 |
| ev | well done, guys | 15:32 |
| slangasek | everyone here is also happy to have whoopsie landed on the images | 15:32 |
| slangasek | though I've just noticed that with the system images, /var/crash is read-only, so we have some more fixing to do there ;) | 15:32 |
| ev | ha! | 15:32 |
| ev | Zarro boogs found. | 15:32 |
| slangasek | but the unity team are eagerly awaiting having their crashes recorded | 15:32 |
| ev | That's good to know. | 15:32 |
| slangasek | and there's pent-up demand for both the upstart android bridge and package cross-build support (a few more packages needed to support before it meets the team's needs) | 15:33 |
| slangasek | so they're chomping at the bit | 15:33 |
| slangasek | in short: you guys are all doing great work, which is greatly appreciated by the rest of the team | 15:34 |
| slangasek | so keep it up :) | 15:34 |
| slangasek | </cheerleading> | 15:34 |
| ev | slangasek: if you see someone responsible for the current touch experience, spawn an app and then SIGSTOP it for me | 15:35 |
| ev | then tell them to use the launcher | 15:35 |
| ev | I've sent a mail to phablet about it | 15:35 |
| slangasek | ev: this demos a bug I suppose, with the launcher locking up? | 15:37 |
| ev | slangasek: if an application hangs, there is no way out | 15:37 |
| ev | all input seems to be channelled through the foreground application | 15:37 |
| ev | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Jul 31 15:37:52 2013 UTC. | 15:37 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-31-15.00.moin.txt | 15:37 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-31-15.00.html | 15:37 |
| slangasek | ev: ok; fwiw that's probably not worth following up on, since the switch to Mir is coming RSN | 15:37 |
| ev | thanks guys! | 15:37 |
| barry | thanks ev! and thanks slangasek for the update | 15:38 |
| ev | slangasek: yes, I was careful to ask if this would be a problem in Mir in th email | 15:38 |
| jodh | thanks! | 15:38 |
| ev | I tried to get it running on my nexus yesterday, but it sat on the bootloader image | 15:38 |
| slangasek | ev: it *might* be, but it's just not worth tracking that kind of process interaction bug at this stage | 15:38 |
| ev | and I only noticed that unity8 crashed by logging in and seeing a report in /var/crash for it \o/ | 15:38 |
| slangasek | we should revisit once Mir lands | 15:38 |
| ev | slangasek: *nods* | 15:38 |
| slangasek | ev: impressive failure handling, though; when I restart the app again, the UI is now completely out of sync with the input layer :) | 15:41 |
| ev | lol | 15:41 |
| ev | I hadn't noticed that | 15:41 |
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