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psivaainfinity: cjwatson: for the uninstallable packages listed in the report.html in precise  cdimage, reported bug #1206860 to account the smoke failure11:20
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1206860 in xf86-input-wacom-lts-raring (Ubuntu Precise) "xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-raring are unintstallable with precise alternate images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120686011:20
infinitypsivaa: Already noted at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise-proposed_probs.html11:22
cjwatsonAlso e-mailed to us daily11:22
cjwatsonFeel free to have a tracking bug if it helps you but we don't need one and it's quite plausible we'll forget to close it ...11:22
psivaainfinity: cjwatson: ack, i am doing the both :)11:22
infinityI'll remember in this case, cause I'm about to fix it.11:22
cjwatson(i.e. it's actually slightly worse for us to have a tracking bug than not, for things in the report)11:23
psivaacjwatson: agreed, but without a tracking bug the smoke dashboard will be red with 0% pass rate with no bugs tagged11:26
cjwatsonpsivaa: Ideally there'd be some other way to log an explanation of what's happening14:56
psivaacjwatson: yes, but on the other side we have a daily image that's not installable. so a bug can only accompany that imho :)14:59
psivaaif it's a known bug or not is a separate issue15:00
rbasakapache2-prefork-dev 2.2.22-6ubuntu5 appears to be in saucy, built from the apache2 source. How do binary packages get removed when they're no longer relevant?15:26
rbasak(apache2-dev 2.4.6-2ubuntu1 now replaces/provides apache2-prefork-dev and it's in saucy too)15:26
xnoxrbasak: an Archive admin removes them by hand, following output from a report http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html15:27
xnoxrbasak: if ofcourse it's time to do it / safe to do.15:28
rbasakI see - thanks15:28
rbasakThis is bug 1206114. I'm not sure if it's causing a problem, but it certainly complicates things a bit.15:29
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1206114 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "Package apache2-prefork-dev broken in Saucy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120611415:29
rbasakAFAICT, there is a solution, the build isn't picking it.15:30
infinityrbasak: If all those deps reported on the nbs report are actually || deps, we can remove the package.  I'll look.15:30
infinityrbasak: The build has no reason to pick the other option until the first is gone.15:30
xnoxrbasak: nothing wrong with apache2 package, instead the reported should follow apache2.4 guidelines on how to port modules / extensions / webapps.15:30
infinitySleep didn't work out for me anyway. :/15:31
rbasak:-/15:31
infinityrbasak: And, the first hit there is broken.  libapache2-authcookie-perl build-depends on apache2-prefork-dev, clearly still needs transitioning.15:32
infinityI imagine the rest are similar.15:33
xnoxrbasak: nothing should build-dep on apache2-frefork-dev with apache2.4, as that will not work with new style packaging.15:34
rbasakI don't understand this fully. Why is a package that build-depends on something that is now a virtual package broken?15:34
xnoxcommented on the bug report.15:34
cjwatsonThere's a Provides, so only ones with versioned build-deps must be transitions15:34
cjwatsoned15:34
rbasakThanks xnox15:34
cjwatsonBut when I last looked at that in NBS, there was at least one versioned build-dep still in place15:34
infinityrbasak: It's a real package too, until we remove it.15:34
cjwatsonAnd Provides doesn't satisfy versioned relationships15:34
rbasakAh15:34
infinitycjwatson: oh, I didn't realise apache2-dev now provided it.15:35
infinityThat helps a little bit.15:35
xnoxrbasak: i was trying to say, that even if apache2-dev would be installed i daubt the package would build anyway =)15:35
rbasakxnox: right, I got that part :)15:35
xnox=) ok.15:35
rbasakI was just confused by the build-dep breaking things15:35
infinitySo, mod-mime-xattr has a versioned build-dep.15:36
rbasakOr more that the archive state broke the build-dep even though it looked OK to me. I didn't understand that provides couldn't provide it in this case.15:36
cjwatsonThe package in that bug will very likely need transitioning, certainly, so I'd be inclined to agree with that not being a valid bug in apache2 even though we should sort this out.15:36
infinityrbasak: Provides can't provide versioned build-deps (so mod-mime-xattr needs fixing), and while provides sure can provide apache2-prefork-dev, the real package (that's still in the archive) will be preferred.15:37
cjwatsonNo properly transitioned package is affected by this.15:37
infinityBut odds are that everything on the NBS list needs transitioning to the new world order anyway.15:37
infinityOh, as Colin said.15:37
rbasakI follow now. Thanks!15:38
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rbasakxnox: could you respond to bug 1206114 please? I get the impression that: 1) removing the old binary won't help anyway, since he's using a versioned dependency; 2) we don't seek compatibility between release in this way, instead preferring to fix the packages; 3) if he wants that change, he should petition the Debian maintainer; but I'd prefer someone else to tell me that I'm being accurate.18:06
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1206114 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "Package apache2-prefork-dev broken in Saucy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120611418:06
infinityrbasak: Done.  I may have been a bit harsh, but his tone rubbed me the wrong way. :/18:51
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dokoinfinity, do you take care about the other binutils-gold issues too?19:08
infinitydoko: I haven't started looking at reverse-build-conflicts yet (other than rebootstrapping fpc, which I already did, and fixing glibc), but that's next on my list.19:10
infinitydoko: And I need to make yade no longer ftbfs for that one to be fixed.19:10
infinityHopefully, the build-conflict list isn't terribly long.19:11
infinitydoko: I know we're also carrying some deltas in some KDE packages to remove -fuse-ld=gold because it was previously not understood.  Now that we're carrying that patch to gcc, we can back those out, but I need to find them (not critical, though, they'll just keep building with bfd, which works fine).19:12
dokothanks. binutils-gold wasn't very helpful with cross builds either19:13
infinitydoko: Were you planning on backporting the -fuse-ld patch to previous GCC versions too, or have it only work in >= 4.8?19:13
dokoit should be there19:13
infinityOh, cool.  I hadn't checked.19:13
dokobut distro specific19:14
infinityYeah, I know gcc-4.7 used to choke on the option, but RH carried the patch in their 4.719:14
infinityWhich is why I asked.19:14
infinity(saucy-amd64)root@cthulhu:~# zgrep '^Build-Conflicts:.*binutils-gold' /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources | wc -l19:20
infinity2119:20
infinityI guess that's not unmanageable.19:20
infinitydoko: Erm, most of them are yours: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933849/19:26
rbasakinfinity: thanks19:28
infinitydoko: gcc-4.8 being a false positive because it's wrong in -release but fixed in -proposed, but I suspect all the rest still need fixing.19:29
infinityAnd Laney's already fixed xpdf.19:31
dokoyes, the cross packages are not a priority for now19:33
infinitySure, just pointing out that other than a few stragglers (and I'm chasing them all down), the rest are GCC or based on GCC packaging.19:35
infinityBut I'll make sure all the !gcc stuff is fixed.  The others will annoy you in the next rebuild test if you forget to fix them before then. ;)19:36
sergiusensUrsinha: hey, long time no talk! I have a launchpad question for you, why can't I link https://launchpad.net/phablet-image-info/i9100/+setbranch to https://code.launchpad.net/~i9100-image-dev/phablet-image-info/i910020:09
Ursinhasergiusens, hey, let me see20:11
Ursinhasergiusens, wild guess: it seems that project isn't set to use codehosting in launchpad (which is weird because you have branches there hehe)20:15
Ursinhasergiusens, are you admin of that project?20:15
sergiusensUrsinha: dholbach is I think...20:15
sergiusensUrsinha: oh, I am admin20:16
ogra_sergiusens, haha20:27
* ogra_ has a deja vu ... i had the same moment of surprise this morning20:27
sergiusensogra_: wanted to do the same thing?20:30
sergiusens:-)20:30
ogra_heh, no, but discovered that we're all admins20:30

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