[01:36] <ChinnoDog> chirp
[09:45] <rmg51> Morning
[09:59] <JonathanD> hi rmg51
[10:02] <rmg51> o/
[11:22] <scottrigby> hi :)
[12:05] <jedijf> good morning
[12:05] <scottrigby> morning jedijf
[12:17] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[13:29] <ChinnoDog> morning--
[13:51] <teddy-dbear> o/
[14:27] <MutantTurkey> morinn
[14:29] <teddy-dbear> morinn MutantTurkey
[14:36] <MutantTurkey> my Galaxy S III just kicked it yesterday
[14:36] <MutantTurkey> whats the latest and greatest? jedijf any ideas?
[14:37] <MutantTurkey> still have my totally working Galaxy S Captivate... but the SIM card doesn't work
[14:37] <ChinnoDog> S4?
[14:38] <ChinnoDog> The girlfriend has an S4. I'm envious.
[14:38] <MutantTurkey> yeah... but after how poorly the S3 held up
[14:38] <MutantTurkey> I mean did Gorilla Glass take a giant drop in quality?
[14:38] <MutantTurkey> I was actually testing out my original galaxy, hitting it on concrete and stuff
[14:38] <MutantTurkey> and nothing happened
[14:38] <MutantTurkey> so...
[14:39] <MutantTurkey> this s3 is a POS!
[14:44] <ChinnoDog> My S3 seems sturdy to me.
[14:45] <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey: stop breaking your phone
[14:47] <MutantTurkey> compared to my SI it is not
[14:47] <MutantTurkey> i mean the back is plastic...
[14:47] <MutantTurkey> the phone actually bends when you but torsion on it
[14:50] <ChinnoDog> It survives being in my pocket and has survived a couple concrete drops before I put a massive battery on it. It has barely a scratch.
[14:51] <waltman> MutantTurkey: Wait, you were *intentionally* hitting your phone on concrete just to see what happened?
[14:51] <ChinnoDog> MutantTurkey wants a phone made of adamantium.
[14:54] <waltman> Could Wolverine break a phone made of adamantium?
[14:54] <ChinnoDog> Uncertain. Have you seen the latest Wolverine movie?
[15:00] <waltman> No.
[15:09] <MutantTurkey> yes
[15:09] <MutantTurkey> my old phone
[15:09] <MutantTurkey> and nothing happened
[15:10] <MutantTurkey> no, i just want a phone that is decently strong, made out of not plastic, but something sturdy
[15:10] <MutantTurkey> aluminum maybe
[15:10] <MutantTurkey> with built in shocks inside of it, a screen that is not so thin it breaks (because gorilla glass should be able to stop it)
[15:12] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: i am liking the note
[15:12] <MutantTurkey> is it to large for you?
[15:12] <jedijf> no
[15:13] <jedijf> don't have - am liking/thinking/waiting for note3 at this point
[15:13] <jedijf> son-in-law has note3 and loves it
[15:13] <jedijf> note2
[15:14] <MutantTurkey> hmmm
[15:14] <MutantTurkey> ok
[15:14] <jedijf> bigger is better if you want to /use/ it
[15:14] <jedijf> of just get a flip phone
[15:14] <jedijf> or
[15:19] <MutantTurkey> right
[15:35] <waltman> I still think think the Note is an absurdly big clown phone.
[15:36] <MutantTurkey> fits me
[15:36] <jedijf> it's really not that big
[15:37] <jedijf> my 10 inch tab is a clown phone
[15:37] <jedijf> but i wear the shoes to match, so it works
[15:48] <waltman> I was watching a podcast the other day where someone was wishing he could use the Nexus 7 as his phone.
[15:49] <jedijf> that was me
[15:50] <jedijf> been saying that for a little bit now
[15:50] <waltman> No, it was Leo Laporte on TWiT
[16:45]  * waltman admits to confusing the Galaxy S$n's with Nexus $n's.
[17:19] <adom> MutantTurkey ChinnoDog: just saw the mention of the geeknic. that IS a far drive for ChinnoDog and myself, and there was only a couple days notice :/
[17:20] <adom> i need to login here more often
[17:20] <JonathanD> adom: yeah, it was short notice :P
[17:20] <JonathanD> adom: it amounted to KyleYankan saying "hey wanna have a picnic"
[17:20] <JonathanD> and me saying "sure, lets call it a geeknic and invite everyone"
[17:20] <adom> haha i see
[17:20] <adom> fair enough
[17:20] <JonathanD> it rained
[17:20] <JonathanD> a lot
[17:20] <JonathanD> we'll do it again after fosscon.
[17:20] <adom> :(
[17:20] <JonathanD> adom: coming to fosscon?
[17:21] <adom> when is it?
[17:21] <JonathanD> Aug 10
[17:21] <JonathanD> (quite soon)
[17:24] <KyleYankan> Hah, sorry adom. It was like a 36 hour notice for most people. If that.
[17:26] <adom> is the fosscon up in PA?
[17:27] <JonathanD> adom: Philadelphia
[17:27] <adom> KyleYankan: no worries, like ChinnoDog, i probably couldnt have made the drive anyway
[17:27] <MutantTurkey> nothing is more beautiful than this:
[17:27] <MutantTurkey> Records: 6784715  Deleted: 0  Skipped: 0  Warnings: 0
[17:27] <adom> wow lucky
[17:29] <adom> JonathanD: its enticing. at first i was worried about the drive but i see its about 3hrs from me.
[17:29] <adom> im still not going to say its likely, but im going to say its possible
[17:30] <adom> if ChinnoDog happens to go, maybe ill be more likely to go. we really should meet finally, since we now live like, 40 minutes apart from each other. >.<
[18:14] <MutantTurkey> tfmaybe I should get an iPhone
[18:14] <MutantTurkey> i have been resisting so hard
[18:16] <adom> guys, remind me what irc command sends in-channel private messages? am i stupid?
[18:17] <pleia2> /msg nickname hi
[18:17] <pleia2> I assume that's what you mean
[18:18] <pleia2> "in-channel" and "private messages" are two different things, but you seem to know how to send messages in channel :)
[18:18] <adom> for a second i thought there was a command that shows a private message only in the channel you choose, rather than a PM.
[18:18] <adom> alas, twas a theme setting of mine playing tricks on my eyes.
[18:18]  * adom blushes.
[18:18] <pleia2> where private messages show up depends on your client
[18:18] <pleia2> (some people choose to have them show up inline in a channel)
[18:19] <adom> it was just that someone was mentioning me, so the hilight settings for my theme made that line look different in the channel and i thought [for some reason] that only i could see it
[18:19] <pleia2> ah
[18:19]  * adom is dum.
[18:21] <adom> man, if you ever forget how unforgiving IRC users are, just join a highly populated channel and ask a simple question.
[18:22] <adom> well, i got my answer so back to work :(
[18:22] <adom> ill try to login here more often
[18:22]  * adom waves.
[18:24] <MutantTurkey> cya!
[18:25] <jedijf> adom: msg me
[18:25] <jedijf> :P
[19:02] <waltman> MutantTurkey: iphones are awesome!
[19:03] <waltman> And if you splurge for AppleCare, they'll replace it if you drop it, so you don't have to worry concrete!
[19:03] <ChinnoDog> How many times will they replace it?
[19:04] <waltman> An excellent question!
[19:04] <waltman> I don't know, because I've never gotten AppleCare on a phone
[19:05] <MutantTurkey> i wouldn't waste money on any extended things
[19:05] <MutantTurkey> they are easy money for most companies
[19:05] <teddy-dbear> leave it to a turkey to try to smash a phone
[19:05] <MutantTurkey> 'perpetually afraid of thanksgiving'
[19:05] <waltman> I think it's a good deal for the laptops because there are all sorts of things than can fail, and they're all expensive to fix.
[19:10] <JonathanD> I always had it on my laptops, where it included the tech coming out onsite to fix the thing.
[19:10] <JonathanD> This has been nice because you're back up in a day if something breaks.
[19:11] <waltman> It's really nice to be able to bring the box into the apple store and say "fix it!"
[19:13] <waltman> They replaced a faulty screen and battery in my macbook.
[19:13] <waltman> They also fixed up the mess I made of the bottom cover when I upgraded the ram to 8 gb.
[19:15] <KyleYankan> "Those screwriver scratches? Came like that"
[19:15] <ChinnoDog> hehe
[19:16] <MutantTurkey> "your easily worn off warranty sticker is broken? no sorry wecan't service that
[19:16] <MutantTurkey> your battery water indicator is purple even though it was kept in a watersafe container placed in a sealed vault for the entirety of its life, whilst next to a dehumidifier? sorry we can't service that.
[19:17] <KyleYankan> I recently dropped my phone in a puddle for ~10 min. Sticker is still white.... not sure if it's a trap....
[19:22] <jedijf> MutantTurkey doens't need a warranty/guarantee he's opening a repair business
[19:22] <jedijf> repair my doesn't
[19:22] <waltman> It's REALLY difficult to take the bottom cover of a Macbook off and on without messing up the rubber coating on it.
[19:23] <waltman> Also getting the tiny screws all lined up properly is damn near impossible
[19:24] <jedijf> AppleCare sell Koolaid?
[19:24] <waltman> I'm sort of glad the newer models are designed to not be opened. It removes the temptation to do so :)
[19:25] <jedijf> hammer
[19:26] <pleia2> my laptops don't tend to break
[19:26] <KyleYankan> pleia2: then you're not tinkering enough
[19:26] <waltman> It's more that parts of them break :)
[19:26] <waltman> Also I was taking this on the train every single day.
[19:27] <waltman> Nowdays it gets to stay home most days, and I just bring in the much lighter iPad. :)
[19:27] <pleia2> my secret is not buying mac+applecare, but buying cheapo x86 laptops that last forever
[19:27] <pleia2> my netbook has been all over the world with me, 4.5 years with no issues
[19:28]  * pleia2 toss in purse
[19:28] <waltman> Do you have one of those Linux laptops that require a reboot every time you try to connect them to a projector? :)
[19:28] <pleia2> nope, all mine work great with projectors
[19:28] <pleia2> I loan mine to mac people who forget their dongles :)
[19:30] <waltman> Meanwhile I'm still trying to convince my boss I can do a presentation in Powerpoint on my Mac, and that I don't want/need a Surface :)
[19:32] <jedijf> pleia2: did you find your way home or are you still in the office?
[19:32] <pleia2> jedijf: found my way home!
[19:32] <jedijf> :)
[19:33] <pleia2> we didn't get home until 10PM or so and I was all *so tired* and mjoseph was like "you know I do this every day, right?"
[19:33] <jedijf> ha
[19:33] <waltman> pleia2: Wait, you have an office in SF and you work from home?
[19:33] <pleia2> waltman: no, palo alto
[19:33] <waltman> Or is it way down in the valley?
[19:34] <waltman> aha
[19:34] <pleia2> not my office, I'm badge for sunnyvale
[19:34] <waltman> PA's nice from what I remember.
[19:34] <pleia2> badged
[19:34] <pleia2> PA is very nice ($$$$)
[19:34] <waltman> pleia2: Tell them they need to bring back their RPN calculators :)
[19:34] <JonathanD> Title for this position: FTP Specialist
[19:34] <pleia2> lol
[19:34] <JonathanD> Doing FTP full time doesn't sound very fund.
[19:34] <JonathanD> fun
[19:34] <JonathanD> how is that even a job?
[19:34] <jedijf> btw, isn't that Buffy's hometown? Where you are badged.
[19:35] <KyleYankan> JonathanD: We have one at QVC.
[19:35] <JonathanD> heh
[19:35] <pleia2> jedijf: alas no, that's sunnydale
[19:35] <pleia2> near LA
[19:35] <JonathanD> KyleYankan: is he/she being replaced...?
[19:35] <ChinnoDog> HP48 ftw
[19:35] <KyleYankan> JonathanD: I dont think so, but he does need to take some Vaca, dude it here waaay too much. He ahs no backup, so when a FTP job goes down, we're supposed to contact him. 24/7/365
[19:35] <JonathanD> KyleYankan: and what does he/she do... upload and download things all day?
[19:36] <ChinnoDog> I run an HP48 emulator on my phone as my calculator.
[19:36] <waltman> I have an old HP 11C that's going on 30 years old and still works great.
[19:36] <JonathanD> KyleYankan: maybe his is more involved
[19:36] <JonathanD> this descript is just... funny
[19:39] <pleia2> waltman: oh, and there are a couple sf offices but one is snapfish and another is sales or something (they don't let engineers in)
[19:39] <waltman> :(
[19:39] <waltman> that's a lot of offices
[19:39] <pleia2> yeah, there are like a zillion
[19:40] <pleia2> the one in sunnyvale is cool, old palm building that looks out over Moffett air field
[19:40] <pleia2> not cool enough for me to actually go to it though
[19:41] <waltman> Do they at least have free lunch?
[19:41] <pleia2> hah, no
[19:41] <pleia2> yesterday I was like "oh, cafeteria, do I need money?" "yes"
[19:42] <waltman> How quaint!
[19:43] <waltman> Was it actually possible to pay with cash, or do you need to use paypal or nfc or suchlike?
[19:43] <pleia2> can use cash
[19:44] <JonathanD> payapl? wouldn't it at least be google wallet?
[19:44] <waltman> At HP?
[19:45] <JonathanD> oh
[19:45] <waltman> Bitcoin!
[19:45] <JonathanD> nevermind :P
[19:45] <JonathanD> bitcoin!
[19:45] <waltman> pleia2: Did you realize this early enough that you could do some quick mining on your laptop on the way down? :)
[19:46] <pleia2> lol
[19:46] <JonathanD> I don't think "quick mining" is a thing.
[19:46] <JonathanD> Certainly not on anything portable.
[19:46] <pleia2> google's cafeterias don't take google wallet either, but that's because the food there is free ;)
[19:46] <pleia2> they probably take it in their on site shop
[19:46] <waltman> Whose food is better -- HP's or Googles?
[19:47] <pleia2> certainly more selection at Google, but I quite enjoyed my taco salad yesterday