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iampozwhats the problem?00:00
daniel11x wont start and I cant get to a terminal to troubleshoot it. after installing nvidia binary drivers.00:01
rusty101hello, if I dual boot Linux with my win7, will I have the windows security holes when i boot to linux?00:02
gordonjcprusty101: no00:03
gordonjcprusty101: you can still read your Windows files, mostly, but you're running completely different software with a completely different set of security holes00:04
daniel11rusty101 - when linux is running, windows will be shut down. when windows is running, linux will be shut down. you will not have problems with windows viruses, malware etc. when running linux, even if you still ahve windows installed at the time.00:04
gordonjcprusty101: not nearly so many holes, though00:04
gordonjcprusty101: there are no viruses for Linux00:04
gordonjcprusty101: there are some security holes, and it pays to be somewhat careful00:04
mjaykgordonjcp: i dont like the statement there are no viruses for Linux that cant be true00:04
rusty101will big brother still be logging me in Linux?00:05
hewhomustrusty0101: Big brother is called Canonical00:05
mjaykrusty101: most likely if you use the interwebs00:05
gordonjcpmjayk: well, there aren't00:05
cgtdkrusty101: They log your internet traffic, so yes00:05
daniel11rusty101 - only mark shutteworth00:05
mjaykgordonjcp: i disagree, its a sweeping statement00:05
gordonjcpmjayk: there are vastly more Linux computers connected to the Internet than Windows computers00:05
azaleohttp://i.imgur.com/CnEeI.jpg?100:06
gordonjcpmjayk: you'd think if it was possible, it would have been done by now00:06
cgtdkazaleo: please don't00:06
mjaykgordonjcp: it has been done thats my point, just google theres ltos of info on it. There are not as many because its not a big of a target as windows just google00:06
gordonjcpmjayk: there's nothing, there's *one* proof-of-concept virus that takes a lot of work to get going00:07
rusty101when I boot to linux it certainly will be more secure than Windows, correct?00:07
gordonjcpmjayk: Linux is a much larger target than Windows00:07
azaleonot really00:07
gordonjcpmjayk: there are pretty much no Windows computers connected to the Internet00:08
lurkerhello00:08
mjaykgordonjcp: no your wrong -  reference [1] http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/360194600:08
wilee-nileerusty0101, you are only as safe as you are careful no matter what OS.00:08
gordonjcpmjayk: lol, Kaspersky00:08
mjaykgordonjcp: reference 2 http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security.nsf/ppfdocs/200511071601424800:08
mjayksrsly jsut use the internet00:08
gordonjcplol, Symantec00:08
gordonjcpmjayk: those are nonsense00:09
mjaykyea those crazy dogs gordonjcp people like you saying ahhh there are no linux virus are jsut 1 wrong and 2 provide a false sence of security00:09
mjayksimple as end00:09
lurkeranyone?00:09
cgtdk!ask | lurker00:09
ubottulurker: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:09
gordonjcpmjayk: because, there are no viruses for Linux00:09
mjaykthere are00:09
gordonjcpmjayk: it's really that simple00:09
gordonjcpmjayk: show me one00:09
mjaykdo you have a web browser?00:09
gordonjcpmjayk: yup00:09
mjaykdo you know what google is ?00:09
wilee-nileeget a room guys00:09
gordonjcpmjayk: yes, and I know what fairy stories are too00:10
mjayki suggest you stop wasting my time and use it00:10
cgtdk!pm | lurker00:10
ubottulurker: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.00:10
wilee-nileegordonjcp, mjayk Argue in a pm00:10
gordonjcpmjayk: hint - if you see the name of a virus scanner software manufacturer on the article, it's a sensationalist piece intended to scare you into opening your wallet00:10
lurkerhow to make 2 Oss boot simultaneously from within one00:11
mjaykgordonjcp: please stop saying my name and go away00:11
gordonjcpmjayk: no00:11
lurkerno no, not like this00:11
daniel11gordonjcp: actually the first virus ever written was for a unix-variant. there are viruses that are written in javascript and run in your browser, a classic myspace virus will run on anything with a javascript interpreter and the right environment - including linux. frameworks like metasploit provide exploitations for lots of known, documented security holes in common nix utilities. and anyone is succeptable to running untrusted code. its iimportant to know00:11
lurkermake them choose before the login00:11
mjaykgordonjcp: many dots helps if you can read00:11
gordonjcpdaniel11: those are not viruses, because they cannot self-replicate and they are not persistent00:11
lurkerChoose, not override00:12
daniel11gordonjcp - i gave you several examples of self-replicating code in my previous00:12
lurkeroptional boot00:12
gordonjcpdaniel11: and yet despite there being many many more Linux machines connected to the Internet than Windows machines, they're just not infected anywhere like as often00:12
gordonjcpdaniel11: have you ever seen an ADSL router that ran Windows...?00:13
wilee-nileeSTOP THE OFFTOPIC BADWARE ARGUMENT.00:13
daniel11Hahaha. Yes actually.00:13
daniel11homebrew00:13
gordonjcpwilee-nilee: oops, sorry, just noticed this wasn't #u-ot00:13
lurkerreboot the PC and see 2 Os options00:13
daniel11yeah lets stop now guys.00:13
wilee-nileelol thanks00:13
rusty101If I have say, Flash or windows update on my Win7, will those holes be seen in my dual boot linux install when I boot Linux?00:13
lurkerand then help me decide wich one to shoot00:13
daniel11rusty101 - no.00:14
gordonjcprusty101: no, because none of your Windows code is running00:14
rusty101ahhhh00:14
wilee-nileerusty101, Did you install from windows per-chance?00:14
rusty101I am not going to00:14
rusty101I will install from cd00:14
lurkeror make them run in a bunble, haf the screen each00:14
rusty101I am on windows now00:15
wilee-nileerusty101, Cool, windows and ubuntu will be indifferent partitions then, use common sense, and you will be fine.00:15
wilee-nileedifferent*00:15
daniel11lurker - I particularly like the idea of being given the option of which OS to shoot when you start your computer.00:15
rusty101there will be the GRUB bootloader00:15
wilee-nilee!virus | rusty0101 here is basic info00:16
ubotturusty0101 here is basic info: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus00:16
lurkerdaniel11: it is not new, when windows gets moved, 2 boots are shown (2)00:17
wilee-nileerusty101, There is a security section at the ubuntu forums I would ask questions there.00:17
rusty101okay, thank you very much00:17
Awakenwould like to point out windows update isn't a security hole, it's exactly the opposite00:17
Awaken:P00:17
lurkerdaniel11: it is quite nice to choose the options , moodwise00:17
guest_01anyone know how to resume sshfs after hibernate. something about pm-utils eaelier but i didnt get it all00:18
guest_01or better yet how to put it in fstab. os doesnt seem to like the sshfs command in there00:19
lurkerdaniel11: the next Os overwrote the MBR, and left the old OS buisnessless00:19
lurkerdaniel11: but the old guy is still there, just waiting to be awakened00:20
lurkerdaniel11: it is still there, but the loader in the beginning doesn't see them both.00:22
lurkerCasey, do you know MBR?00:23
Caseylurker: I know of it, yes.00:23
lurkerOh thenk you00:24
CaseyLurker why do you ask?00:24
lurkerCasey: do you know how to change boot options?00:24
Caseylurker you need to be more specific, bud. What are we changing, what OS's are we looking to use, etc...00:25
=== MartynKeigher is now known as MartynKeigher|AW
daniel11can anyone help me with my x crashing problem?00:32
mjaykdaniel11: can you get to a tty? i.e. is it defo an x problem00:32
daniel11mjayk - nope, it freezes for all input. I can get to a tty before the crash, but I dont have time to type anything.00:33
mjaykif tty is crashing doesnt that say its not an x problem daniel11 ? I could be wrong00:34
daniel11could be, could be. I'm not an expert. I'm just assuming its a nvidia drivers problem. there are some error messages - something about sdc1, something about plymouth being ok. Im a fast reader but I dont have time to read them.00:35
mjaykdaniel11: i would be sceptical about saying its an x crash if you cant get to tty, afaik if x crashes you can mostly always get to tty00:36
gustavoHi ya all00:36
CIDR 2 of my users went from getting maybe 30-40 spams a day to over 20k.  And it's just crap like00:36
CIDR              this: http://pastebin.com/VpMmeMsv  any ideas at all?00:36
gustavoWill Ubuntu bring back evolution mail to work with the messaging icon an popper?00:37
cgtdkCIDR: Get a spamfilter00:37
CIDRI'm using one...00:37
daniel11the last message is Starting CPU interrupts balancing daemon and then saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned00:37
CIDRand it's getting hammered.  The users aren't receiving the spam00:37
daniel11both are [ok]00:37
cgtdkSpam is unavoidable. 20k seems like a lot though00:37
gustavoI like evolution better that thunderbird00:38
daniel11CIDR - do most of them come form the same netblocks?00:38
CIDRno00:39
CIDRthat's what's bizarre00:39
daniel11so completely different netblocks, no similarities to message content, etc?00:39
cgtdkCIDR: How exactly is this Ubuntu related? Do you run an Ubuntu server?00:39
greg__How do i install ushare on linux00:39
CIDRspam filter requires valid reverse dns....  and way different net blocks00:39
CIDRcgtdk: yes00:39
CIDRdaniel11: yeah way crazy netblocks and the content of the messages basically are just random words00:40
CIDRno links, no selling of crap, etc...00:40
cgtdkMaybe someone doesn't like those two users. Are they related in any way?00:40
CIDRNo...  not that I can tell00:40
cgtdkodd00:40
CIDRVERY00:40
wilee-nileegreg__, Not sure but here is a wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media00:41
CIDRgetting hundreds a minute still, only way i'm gettin gthe filter to keep up is to just drop mail to those 2 users00:41
daniel11what kind of spam filter are you using?00:41
cgtdkhow long has it been going on?00:41
greg__thanks00:42
CIDRlike 8 hours00:42
daniel11mjayk: any ideas what to do?00:42
greg__wilee00:42
greg__u the man00:42
CIDRexim with spamassin, clamav00:42
cgtdkCIDR: Maybe you should ask on a more relevant forum. #ubuntu isn't exactly filled with spam experts.00:42
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CIDRunderstood, but it is filled with a vast number of people that may/may not work/be in the field and see this kind of thing00:43
CIDRI've been asking wherever and it's a mystery to most everyone, though it was worth a shot00:43
mjaykdaniel11: id go for a recovery cd kinda no idea though sorry00:43
magdurselam mübarekler ya benim makina da ubuntu kurulu amma çok ısınıyor napsak ona ?00:43
cgtdkThat's all right, I was just trying to be helpful.00:43
cgtdkI've never heard of something like this before.00:44
CIDRI understand.00:44
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CIDRThis is just crazy00:44
CIDRusually processes 40k mails a day, at 90+ already today, and it's only 7:4500:44
magdurhiç türkçe bilen yok mu00:45
mjaykCIDR: do the mails have any common link?00:45
CIDRother than them being just random garbage no00:45
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CIDRno same from, no same reply00:45
kostkon!tr | magdur00:46
ubottumagdur: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.00:46
CIDRI've checked headers/logs literally thousands and thousands of different ip's sending them00:46
CIDRUNITE.Communists, should miss each as if made through excitedly. blackmail on.The sons ran down down the standstill think theyve only00:46
cgtdkwhere are they coming from? All over the world?00:46
CIDRI mean just like 3 paragraphs of garbage like that in each e-mail00:46
daniel11thanks mjayk. I have a USB disk around. if I boot into a safe environment form it, what would you suggest to do next?00:47
mjayktbh id try to revert drivers and mby do a disk check im a bit outta my depth tbh daniel1100:48
simiom9Olá, boa noite a todos. alguem do pará?00:48
cgtdksimiom9: Please speak English in this channel.00:49
daniel11thanks mjayk00:49
kostkon!pt | simiom900:49
ubottusimiom9: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.00:49
daniel11ah. this is interesting. I can still REISUB it.00:54
wzj???00:55
cgtdkwzj: yes?00:55
netlar!!!00:56
daniel11I can get to grub. but grub freezes immediately.01:05
charlinhi01:07
netlarhi01:07
charlincan we talk01:07
charlinmaibe not about ubuntu01:07
netlarabout?01:07
charlinlife?01:07
netlarNO!!!01:07
mgodzillahi01:07
Picicharlin: Theres #ubuntu-offtopic for non-ubuntu things01:07
charlinok01:07
charlinso01:08
charlini wanna to know if how to get along well with ubuntu if my english is poor01:08
jpdscharlin: Install it in your language.01:08
charlinclever01:09
qincut here for new entry in bash.org01:09
daniel11I have made progress. ps2 keyboard + shift for grub. from the recovery menu am I better off with a root shell prompt or failsafe graphic mode?01:09
uhelpWhat IRC channel would I join to chat with people in Florida?01:10
qin!loco01:11
ubottuInformation on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/01:11
Coreyuhelp: Any of them. IRC is a global phenomenon. :-)01:11
uhelpThank you I will check it out.01:11
reisiouhelp: I'm in Florida :)01:12
daniel11I have a root shell prompt. any advice on what to do now? or where to start looking for the problem?01:13
uhelpreisio, I remember you --- but I don't remember where --- only that you sold your google maps vehicle.  (The channel is #ubuntu-us-fl by the way)01:13
MalgorathDo AMD/ATI video cards still not perform well in ubuntu/linux?01:13
MalgorathCompared to NVIDIA I mean.01:14
uhelpreisio, I am now in Florida getting Medical Marijuana on the ballot at 2501 Bristol Drive B5 West Palm Beach, FL 3340901:14
Malgorathewe political issues01:14
daniel11anyone?01:15
netlarMalgorath: I have AMD it works pretty good most of the time01:15
uhelpMalgorath, we don't think of it as political ... we think of it as getting politics out of a doctor-patient decision01:15
Malgorathdaniel11: did you do a minimal install?01:15
reisiouhelp: heh01:15
daniel11no, full install. my computer freezes during startup and the x server does weird things. not sure what the problem is. but I have a root shell now.01:16
reisiouhelp: he might have meant that getting it decriminalized is political :p01:16
Malgorathdaniel11: check dmesg and logs to see if there are errors01:16
Malgorathreisio: that and its a very OT thing to bring up. I know when I see it the troll in me starts to stir01:17
reisiohuh?01:17
Malgorathnetlar: I was wondering, I have a box I'm working on with a 7870 in it and was wondering if its time to ditch windows 801:17
netlarI have a 7750 card01:18
netlarMalgorath: Not into video games01:18
Malgorathreisio: its nothing to burn cycles on, just I am against medical versions of anything, make it legal or just let it go01:18
hewhomustMalgorath: If you don't do any serious video editing it should be k01:18
reisiosome people like stepping stones01:18
Malgorathnetlar: I have a windows 7 gaming laptop I use for games. This box was meant to be just pure fun01:19
hewhomustMalgorath: It's still slightly slower than windows01:19
hewhomustI'm using a hd 795001:19
Malgorathhewhomust: I have a mac pro tower dual processor for video editing01:19
hewhomustnice01:19
hewhomustit should run nicely then01:20
dhiahey hey01:20
MalgorathI have to many computers sitting in this office, 2 ACs just to keep it below 8001:20
hewhomustlol01:20
hewhomustdhia: hey01:20
netlarMalgorath: need to start your own server farm01:20
dhiai'm on an imac, so tell me dogs which one is better mac or linux01:20
hewhomustpersonal opinion01:21
netlardhia: I have both. love both01:21
hewhomustor windows is better trollolol01:21
dhianetlar: true mac is linux in disguise dawg ?01:21
reisiodhia: linux01:21
reisiomac is bsd in disguise01:22
Malgorathdhia: depends honestly ... comparing a PC to a MAC is like comparing a honda to a BMW. depends on what you do to the honda to make it better.  And how often do you want to keep putting better in the honda, or do you want something everytime you turn the key it works01:22
reisioheavy, expensive disguise01:22
netlardhia: uhh no, it is not open01:22
hewhomustlinux is probably better because of the proprietary hardware01:22
reisio...01:22
hewhomustthat mac stuffs down users throats01:23
Malgorathbtw OS X is based on BSD but MAC is hardware, which runs windows, OSX, and linux01:23
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reisioworst convo ever01:23
Malgorathhewhomust: not really, you can opt to buy something else.01:23
daniel11thnks Malgorath. nothing unusual in the logs or dmesg, just my xorg log says that it cant find any screens. above which it says it isnt going to enable any screens because my nvidia adapter doesnt have its power cables attached. the fuck? anyone heard of this problem before?01:23
daniel11resio: yes.01:23
hewhomuststill linux or windows is significantly easier to build a custom pc01:23
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reisiodaniel11: r, e, i, TAB01:24
hewhomustunless you go hackintosh01:24
netlarAs I see it , biggest issue I have with Linux is that not enough software companies write softwear for it01:24
reisionetlar: how does that bother you?01:24
tigrangIs there a way to focus multiple windows progamatically at once. Currently I'm doing wmctrl -a in a loop, but I'd like all the windows to unminimize at once01:24
reisiotigrang: that isn't at once enough for you?01:25
hewhomustnetlar: I don't really do anything that proprietary software is significantly better for01:25
Malgorathhewhomust: again, depends on more factors then just which is gud, its about reliablility. Also not many PCs I see come with 3 year protection that mac comes with01:25
netlarreisio: There are some titles that I would love to see on Linux, but have to use mac or even windoze to use01:25
reisionetlar: for example?01:25
tigrangreisio: I can see the first window raise, then the next, then the next with a delay - I'd like all to raise at the same time, if possible01:25
netlarWell, Intuit has tax sofware and quicken that i rely on01:25
hewhomustMalgorath: yeah macs does win in some areas01:25
reisionetlar: Unixland has alternatives to those that you could rely on instead01:26
netlarAnd no photoshop01:26
reisiohas alternatives to that as well01:26
netlarreisio: I really do love gnucash, except for the reports01:26
reisiotigrang: there's a command or two for running commands simultaneously01:26
reisiotigrang: I forget its name01:26
hewhomustnetlar: gimp but thats debatable as to how good it is compared to photoshop01:26
Malgorathhewhomust: actually mac wins in more areas then its given credit for(I'm talking the whole package of OSX and MAC Hardware)  Such as most software coming out today can run on a 3 or 4 year old mac pro.  Plus mac is easier for non-tech users01:26
reisiohewhomust: not any more debatable than anything else01:27
tigrangreisio: i've tried using a ; as well as & between the commands, but in that case no window gets raised, wondering if there's another tool or some other way to go about this01:27
reisiotigrang: GNU parallel01:27
netlarreisio: Actually now tthat I think of it, it is only really those three titles01:27
reisionetlar: quicken & photoshop?01:28
tigrangreisio: thanks, ill try that01:28
netlarreisio: and proseries, from intuit01:28
reisiotigrang: if that doesn't work, you might look into devilspie / devilspie201:28
reisioI think personally I'd try to make the parallel run work, though01:28
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reisionetlar: so what's missing from gnucash?01:29
mobilehey all. this is my fstab entry for fstab.. but only root can access it. anyone how to make this allowed to all01:29
mobilesshfs#website.com:/opt/Music/ /home/luser/Music fuse -p4444 0 001:29
netlarreisio: I know I am being pretty shallow, but they are not as pretty01:29
Malgorathhewhomust: good point is laptops. Windows laptop cost you maybe 400$ but its hardware gets dated in a year to where you have to upgrade to a new one. Where as a mac pro laptop (1100$) will stay usable for 3 to 5 years with an amazing warranty01:29
reisiomobile: probably user or gid options or the like01:30
daniel11I dont think my nvidia card *has* a power cord. why would that stop x starting and make me unable to get to tty?01:30
reisionetlar: pretty?01:30
hewhomustMalgorath: but isn't that an unfair comparison, for example any 1100 dollar laptop will last longer than a 400 dollar one01:30
netlarreisio: the gui and screens of some of the apps are not that polished01:30
hewhomustMalgorath: the warranty is true though01:30
reisionetlar: which ones?01:30
netlarreisio: I know the functionality is there, but I am used to pretty01:30
netlarreisio: gnucash for one01:31
Malgorathhewhomust: its not really unfair01:31
Malgorathhewhomust: both are used for word processing, web surfing, video chatings/watching01:32
reisionetlar: so gnucash isn't quicken, that's your complaint? :p01:32
mobilereisio: the guid of my server user or the user on the client.. server right, that makes more sense01:32
reisioor was there something else?01:32
reisiome, when I'm dealing with taxes01:32
reisiothe only thing on my mind is being done01:32
netlarreisio: It is like being married to a pretty girl, then get devorced and marrying a girl who is a great cook and fun to be with but not nearly as pretty01:33
reisioso fix it :p01:33
hewhomustnetlar: you could always modify it if you want lol but I would pick the other girl01:33
reisioif a few people paid a single developer as much as they pay for quicken, it would be however you want it to look by now01:33
reisioand the dev would be rich :p01:33
reisioso you wouldn't even have to pay that much01:34
cmck193where do i go to get help with wine?01:34
netlarreisio: That is something I think about, I would be so willing to pay for software on linux01:34
reisiocmck193: what kind of help?01:34
Malgorathreisio: have you seen that 48min youtube video, why linux sucks?01:34
reisiothere's plenty of software to pay for, but it tends to be inferior01:34
daniel11I cant uninstall nvidia drivers because dpkg is locked. I cant restore my xorg settings because xorg.conf doesnt exist (only xorg.conf.failsafe). help?01:34
moesnetlar, Then invest in moneydance01:34
cmck193reisio: I want to install rift.01:34
reisiopay a developer, have him make the software you think is imperfect to be perfect01:34
netlarMalgorath: I have seen that video01:34
Malgoraththat guy has some really valid ideas.01:35
reisiocmck193: read the version links at http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1248201:35
mobilesays guid=500 not a recognised command in fstab01:35
magdurhey guys i have a problem about my computer, it is too hot when i use ubuntu on the other hand it is not too hot when i use windows, what can i do01:35
reisiomobile: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sshfs%22%20%22fstab%22%20%22user%2201:35
EnissayWhat happened? my apache/php isnt working anymore after installing updates :(01:35
reisiomagdur: define too hot01:35
mobileperfect thanks!01:35
Malgorathreisio: loved his talk about linux having to many splinter projects instead of a focus.  I always felt linux had to many cooks in to many different but very similar kitchens01:36
daniel11enissay: check your apache log files.01:36
reisioMalgorath: whose talk?01:36
hewhomustwhy linux sucks01:36
Malgorathreisio: the video, why linux sucks01:36
reisiommm01:36
netlarmoes: I would love to pay for gnucash if it meant they polished it up01:36
cmck193reisio: when i try to install required components with winetricks i get "wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string01:36
reisiowe don't have too many projects, we have exactly as many as are required01:36
reisioit is impossible for it to be otherwise01:36
jribnetlar: you can offer bounties for specific tasks you want done01:36
reisiofree software is organic01:36
its_stevehello all......can someone help me with my grub please?   I've edited it to boot to windows by default....but it continues to boot to ubuntu 12.04 and when i choose to boot to windows, nothing happens.01:37
magdur:reisio warm01:37
netlarjrib serious?01:37
jribnetlar: sure01:37
netlarjrib: How does that work01:37
daniel11can anyone help me with my problem please? I cant uninstall nvidia drivers because dpkg is locked. I cant restore my xorg settings because xorg.conf doesnt exist (only xorg.conf.failsafe). help?01:37
reisiocmck193: talk to #winehq then01:37
magdurreisio: warm01:37
reisiomagdur: warm01:37
reisiodaniel11: do you have software center open? close it01:37
daniel11I have no xserver running. I certainly do not hve software center open.01:38
hewhomustmagdur how old is your hardware?01:38
etfbOdd problem with LibreOffice in the last few versions of Ubuntu with Unity: the Alt+key menu keys don't work.  I press Alt+F and it doesn't open the File menu, for instance.  Anyone else seeing that?01:38
Malgorathreisio: I understand that, but that is also what keeps a lot of dev time all over the map. I think linus needs to rise up and rule the masses :D01:38
magdurjust a year01:38
magdurı take it last year01:38
etfbWorks OK in Windows, and in Xubuntu with Xfce, so I think it's a Unity bug.01:38
Enissaydaniel11, /var/log/apache2/error.log ?01:38
daniel11yes01:38
Malgorathdaniel11: what type of video card do you have?01:38
daniel11nvidia something. 6500 probably.01:39
daniel11old one these days.01:39
Malgorathdaniel11: was this after a fresh install of 13.04?01:39
jribnetlar: you basically, say I promise to give $X to person who implements Y.  You might want to check on gnucash mailing list about details (like if they have their own specific bounty program).  If not, there's probably some more general site like launchpad or something else where you can post your bounty01:39
daniel11enissay: sudo tail /var/log/apache2/error.log01:39
daniel11malgorath: fresh + 1 day01:39
jribnetlar: here you go: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bounty_Program01:40
Malgorathdaniel11: did it ever start up correctly?01:40
netlarjrib: I probably would not offer much more than $100, not sure how far that would go01:40
Malgorathnetlar: you offer $100, 500 other people offer 100$, that motivates a dev team purdy fast :D01:40
daniel11yep, lots of times. the most recent thign I did was install the (tested) nvidia binary drivers for hardware acceleration. so I reckon that is what is cuaisng the problem starting x.01:40
its_stevehello all......can someone help me with my grub please?   I've edited it to boot to windows by default....but it continues to boot to ubuntu 12.04 and when i choose to boot to windows, nothing happens01:40
Malgorathdaniel11: try to remove the binary driver01:41
netlarso is that like indiegogo01:41
hewhomustits_steve: What do you mean?01:41
hewhomustand where did you install grub01:41
jribnetlar: I'd hit up their mailing list about how you can help01:41
daniel11Malgorath: dpkg is locked. not sure how to unlock it to use apt-get.01:41
its_steveI can't boot to my win 2003 server .....dual boot system01:41
netlarjrib: Thanks , good eye opener01:41
Malgorathdaniel11:  ps aux | grep dpkg01:42
daniel11Malgorath: Umm just the ps process itself. I'm on a root recovery console btw.01:42
cmck193looks like #winehq is a dud01:42
magdurwhatever in here anyone interest with my problem ?, my computer is warm too much01:43
hewhomustits_steve: how did you install it?01:43
its_stevewin 2003 first...then ubuntu01:43
hewhomustmagdur whats your cpu usage?01:43
Enissaydaniel11, nothing new... only some old errors while I was testing... the fact is that php code is displayed as text on my browser now... nothing is working xD01:43
Malgorathdaniel11: If it was me, and you hadn't done much on this box, re install and use the nouveau driver, its gonna give you the most bang outta that card anyways01:43
hewhomustits_steve: how did you install it?01:43
magdurhewhomust: average %501:44
daniel11Enissay: I do this for a living. PM me.01:44
magdur@hewhomust average %501:44
MalgorathEnissay: you probably disabled .php files in an httpd.conf file(or sub file)01:44
its_steveinstalled win 2003 first..then ubuntu with the live cd01:44
hewhomustmagdur: Thats weird the hardware doesn't seem to be taxed too much01:44
hewhomustmagdur: are you sure its not just psychological01:45
Malgorathits_steve: have you tried fix-boot? its pretty good at fixing grub boo boos01:45
icedwaterHi! I'm trying to log in on my desktop (12.04 LTS) but it keeps redirecting me to a login screen. Any idea what I should do?01:45
its_steveMalgorath.....nope, never heard of it...I'll look it up01:45
Malgorathits fixed a few grub issues for me.01:46
reisioMalgorath: he couldn't if he wanted to01:46
icedwaterIt has to be an issue with X since my consoles are fine. They weren't before though, so it's probably not *just* an X thing.01:46
daniel11Malgorath - the first thing I did was copy a huge bunch of old files onto the drive for safekeeping. and configured a bunch of stuff relating to network shares. if theres any way to brute-force removal of nvidia drivers from the recovery root terminal I'd rather do that. besides, this exact thing happened two years ago and I havent touched ubuntu since. if I go down that route, I dont know if I'll be able to persuade myself to..01:46
Malgorathits_steve: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair01:46
cmck193how would i go about a complete reinstall of iwne01:47
its_stevetyvm Malgorath01:47
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Malgorathdaniel11: let my test my google-fu and see what I can find for you, I know I had something like that once, but it was in gentoo01:47
daniel11thanks Malgorath :-)01:47
daniel11cmck193: I dont know much about wine, but i've been really impressed by the framework and support offered by playonlinux / playonmac. I'd look into doing whatever it is you're trying to do with them instead.01:48
Malgorathdaniel11: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal01:48
cmck193join #playonlinux01:48
Malgorathcmck193: what are you trying to do in wine? sorry I missed what you said01:49
EnissayMalgorath, what files exactly so i'll check them01:49
Malgorathdaniel11: looks like from recovery prompt you type apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current01:49
EnissayI already checked files I modified before, and everything seems to be okay01:49
cmck193Malgorath: i'm trying to install rift.  following the directions on winehq to install required components i get "wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string01:50
cmck193"01:50
cmck193Malgorath: not sure what i did there.01:50
MalgorathEnissay: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP and just double check your steps in there to see if anythign doesn't match01:50
icedwaterFixed, it was permissions on .Xauthority. Thanks, askubuntu.com01:50
Malgorathcmck193: isn't its echo '%Program Files%'01:51
icedwaterOdd that it seemed to mangle my font sizes in the console too though.01:51
Malgorathcmck193: pretty sure there is a space in there01:51
Malgorathmight need '%Program\ Files%'01:51
Malgorathcmck193: btw that command is to just show you the path to C:\Program Files\01:52
cmck193but it doesn't start winetricks01:52
Malgorathcmck193: perhaps you don't need to install anything01:54
Malgorathcmck193: you can also run winetricks from CLI on your own and install what you need01:54
cmck193ok?  the rift installer will not work01:54
Malgorathcmck193: whats it a gold or platinum rating on winehq?01:55
GabbozHi.01:56
Malgorathand the 'installer wont work' is just a lazy way of looking at it, run the command from CLI and see what the error is, sometimes it says things like "Needs vcreditinst.exe" or some crazy thing like that and you use winetricks to install it01:56
MalgorathHello Gabboz01:56
GabbozI have a PC which has a flaky on-board VGA.  What .iso would I go for to have a completely text-mode installer?  I want this PC to run as a file server.  BTW, 12.04 is preferred.  Thanks.01:56
tigrangreisio: neither seem like they'd work, thanks tho01:56
reisiotigrang: neither what?01:56
cmck193gold01:57
Malgorathcmck193: have you looved at http://forums.riftgame.com/game-discussions/rift-guides-strategies/technical-guides/91513-guide-installing-rift-linux-ubuntu-10-10-winetricks.html01:57
tigrangreisio: parallel or devilspie01:57
reisiotigrang: lies!01:57
Malgorathcmck193: er have you looked at...01:57
tigrangreisio: well parallel with wmctrl I know doesnt work, tried it, but too lazy at this point to try devilspie :P01:57
cmck193Malgorath: i'm running 13.04 will the 10.10 still work?01:57
Malgorathcmck193: lot of the 'old' posts have a lot of relivant info01:58
reisiotigrang: either parallel works at all or it doesn't01:58
reisiowmctrl shouldn't be a factor01:58
tigrangreisio: wel this is what my script generated and ran: parallel --gnu wmctrl -i -a {1} ::: 0x00e00003 ::: 0x01000021 ::: 0x01c00007 ::: 0x03400005 ::: 0x0360002d ::: 0x038000a0 ::: 0x03c00003 ::: 0x0340046d01:59
tigrangreisio: and no window raised02:00
reisiotigrang: mmm, maybe try using at02:00
magduri m sure that because when i use windows, my computer is colder than installed ubuntu02:00
reisiomagdur: how're you sure02:01
magduri touch my computer and i check it is warm02:02
tigrangreisio: isnt that scheduling, how would that be used for this?02:02
reisioI'm afraid your hand is not a scientific instrument of measurement02:02
reisiotigrang: to make them happen simultaneously02:03
reisioalas, seems to have the same delay as parallel02:03
magduri wish i compare to result of warm measurement02:03
hewhomustmagdur: you should find a sensor monitor then check the temos02:03
hewhomusttemps02:03
magdurhow can ı ceck it ?02:04
reisiotigrang: some window manager do groups02:04
somsip!lm-sensors | magdur02:04
ubottumagdur: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.02:04
magdursorry about that so i am a new user ubuntu02:04
Ben64sensors don't always return the same value on windows and linux02:04
tigrangreisio: so group those windows (I'd have to see if possible and how) then wmctrl on the parent window/group id?02:05
magdurwhile i install lm-sensors i take some warning02:07
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magdurReading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Suggested packages:   fancontrol sensord read-edid i2c-tools The following NEW packages will be installed:   lm-sensors 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 432 not upgraded. Need to get 100 kB of archives. After this operation, 404 kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe l02:08
magdurSetting up lm-sensors (1:3.3.1-2ubuntu2) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension02:08
magdurwhat can i do now ?02:08
magdurare there here anyone for help me?02:10
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reisiotigrang: sounds like a plan02:11
tigrangany tip on the window groups,having a hard time finding any info on that02:12
Malgorathtigrang: depends on your WM02:12
tigrangMalgorath: Gala02:12
Malgorath... never used it.02:13
goddardhow can I undo a delete from nautilus in a mounted drive02:15
goddard?02:15
Malgorathlook in the trash, but you left so meh02:17
THE_GFR|WORKUbuntu 13.04 PPC won't work, bugged out with a reported bug, that sucks I wanted to try it02:17
MalgorathThey Make a PPC version of 13.04?02:18
somsipTHE_GFR|WORK: it seems to have been dying for a while and will be deprecated http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/ubuntu-ditching-powerpc-builds02:19
somsips/deprecated/dropped02:19
Q_ContinuumAttempting to install 12.04.2 LTS from the alternative ISO written to a flash drive, but they all keep coming out corrupt (thunderbird package) - even when the ISO is good.02:23
Q_Continuum(using the alternative one for FDE)02:23
Q_Continuum(Two flash drives so far, same package corrupt when the ISO checksum'd fine)02:24
MalgorathQ_Continuum: is it running out of space?02:24
bdd_newbieIs there a way to open a terminal window using another terminal command02:24
Q_Continuum4GB and 16GB flash drives, 120GB SSD with nothing on it.02:24
Q_Continuum(told to use the whole disk)02:24
somsipbdd_newbie: just execute the terminal command with a &, eg urxvt & (yours may not be urxvt)02:25
VarunVijayarghavHi, we are running ubuntu server 12.0402:25
VarunVijayarghavIs it safe to delete the /usr/share/fonts/truetype folder?02:25
VarunVijayarghavIt's consuming the most space on the root partiition02:25
reisioneat02:26
MalgorathVarunVijayarghav: could always just rename it reboot and see02:26
jribVarunVijayarghav: in general you shouldn't delete things managed by apt, but instead remove the packages you don't want02:26
reisioyou shouldn't actually need any truetype fonts on a server install unless you're creating text of some kind02:26
Q_ContinuumDownloading the ISO, MD5 tool and disk-writing utility on a different box since the only thing that isn't 'verified' is my desktop >.<02:26
Q_ContinuumUgh.02:26
Q_ContinuumJust means another 45 minutes to install completion02:27
Q_ContinuumISO comes in fine but doesn't get written to USB flash drive fine.02:27
bdd_newbiesomsip: i tried bash & it does not  really open another window02:27
reisioQ_Continuum: you use dd?02:27
VarunVijayarghavThanks!02:27
VarunVijayarghavWill remove it using apt-get02:27
somsipbdd_newbie: try gnome-terminal &, if you're on a standard install02:28
Q_ContinuumI used the pendrive linux installer to make the USB drive.02:29
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somsipbdd_newbie: or echo $TERM if you're still getting nowhere, this will output the name of your terminal02:30
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KxTwohey guys maybe you can help me.  I am trying to download a torrent.  usually when I click on the link it opens up with transmission but now it is saying I need to choose a program?02:33
Q_ContinuumSo at this point its either my machine or Pendisk Linux's installer corrupting the write.  Testing on a different machine with a brand new flash drive with the same utility and a redownloaded MD5-passed ISO.02:34
wilee-nileeQ_Continuum, I missed you description, would you like to repaste it?02:36
bdd_newbiesomsip: using ECHO $TERM outputs xterm , when I type xterm in my bash it transfers control to the other terminal and halts the current one...I want the current one to keep working02:36
cynicistQ_Continuum: I'd recommend using dd to write the iso to your usb flash drive (after being sure it is formatted fat32) using the command "sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX" where X is the letter of your usb drive (if you aren't sure you can find it using "df -h")02:36
Q_Continuumcynicist: I don't presently have a Linux-host machine to use dd from is the issue.02:37
wilee-nileeKxTwo, Choose transmission, or make sure it is a compatible torrent file.02:37
Malgorathbdd_newbie: use xterm &02:37
Q_ContinuumWait...I do. *sigh*02:37
* Q_Continuum grabs the one machine that is presently dual-booting02:37
wilee-nileeQ_Continuum, You can keep the darma out if you want my help.02:37
wilee-nileedrama, lol02:37
Q_Continuumlol02:37
cynicistQ_Continuum: good, sometimes the gui installers do strange things02:37
Q_ContinuumNo just realizing I *do* have a Linux box handy02:37
Q_ContinuumDon't use it often so didn't think about it02:38
wilee-nileethe sigh..etc is so irritating is all02:38
KxTwowilee-nilee, when I click on choose program it just goes to my desktop and if i search for transmission it doesn't show up02:38
wilee-nileeKxTwo, Can you the open transmission and load it?02:38
cynicistKxTwo: what browser are you using?02:39
wilee-nileeKxTwo, I use deluge.02:39
KxTwoI'm using the default firefox, nothing has changed I have no idea why it is doing this, I dl torrents regularly02:39
wilee-nileeKxTwo, The are several types of torrents.02:40
bdd_newbieohk xterm & does that can I at the same time make it execute another command , without manually going to the new terminal?02:40
cynicistKxTwo: you can go to edit > preferences > applications and set the magnet association to the torrent client you are using02:40
cynicistKxTwo: (or torrent if you are actually downloading torrent files)02:40
wilee-nileecould just be bogus as well02:40
Q_ContinuumGrabbing ISO on this other machine, will take a moment, then will dd it to the drive.02:41
wilee-nileeQ_Continuum, Cool, dd works fine.02:41
KxTwohmm interestingly enough cynicist there are no torrent files listed under applications02:41
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* Q_Continuum <3's 100Mbit fiber and his ISP hosting mirrors for anything worthwhile02:41
KxTwowilee-nilee, I am sure tehre is but I am clickon ghte same thing I always do02:42
cynicistKxTwo: you don't see any mention of magnet or BitTorrent seed file?02:42
KxTwono I don't I searched for torrent and magnet as well to be sure02:42
KxTwowait02:42
KxTwothink i found it02:42
KxTwoim in the same boat02:43
KxTwomagnet is set to always ask02:43
KxTwoit just brings me to recently used and I cant figure out how to set it to transmission02:43
wilee-nileeKxTwo, Not sure I use deluge.02:43
KxTwolol02:44
cynicistKxTwo: click on "use other" and navigate to /usr/bin/transmission02:44
cynicistKxTwo: err "/usr/bin/transmission-gtk", whichever02:44
KxTwothank you cynicist I tried to search for transmission but to no avail02:44
cynicistKxTwo: yw :)02:44
KxTwolets see if this work02:45
bdd_newbieMalgorath: I need to execute a bash script in a separate terminal window in my ruby program02:45
wilee-nilee!lol > KxTwo02:46
ubottuKxTwo, please see my private message02:46
Malgorathbdd_newbie: xterm script.sh &02:46
KxTwoOh lord, get over it.02:46
bdd_newbieohk thank you lemme try02:46
KxTwook cynicist it seems to have worked, I am not sure why the settings were changed02:47
KxTwoI downloaded something a week or so ago and it was working as usual02:47
cynicistKxTwo: no idea myself, I'm glad the solution worked for you though02:47
KxTwoit was just the fact of never remembering how to navigate to a program.  I dont know why search didn't work but I am glad you helped me :)02:48
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KxTwoOh wait is smiling ok?  don't want to get scolded again.02:48
bdd_newbieMalgorath: it says no absolute path found for shell , Any ideas why :S?02:50
Q_Continuumcynicist: got written out 'immediately' (I'm writing it from a Fedora box) - I had mounted it.  Waiting for the write to actually complete now.  (Claimed 2.5 seconds for the whole ISO, 300MB/sec)02:51
Malgorathbdd_newbie: are you giving the full path name for xterm? try which xterm, be something like /usr/bin/xterm02:51
Shadowandlightsudo apt-get install gufw fails... any idea why?02:52
bdd_newbieMalgorath: its says no absolute path found for shell : <file path> , looks like it is because of the file path....which is correct...any special location where i need to store my batch files02:52
Q_ContinuumHm, should've used a drive that has a light.02:53
LuckySMacki am on a surface pro, I tried installing raring but it doesnt seem to work. how can I remove grub so it boots back into windows properly again. once I do that I want to start over.02:53
qinQ_Continuum: instead of light: iotop02:54
Malgorathbdd_newbie: tbh you shouldn't be running shell commands from inside ruby.02:54
somsip!info gufw | Shadowandlight02:54
ubottuShadowandlight: gufw (source: gui-ufw): graphical user interface for ufw. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.04.0-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 229 kB, installed size 1178 kB02:54
somsipShadowandlight: what error?02:55
Q_Continuumqin: Perfect, exactly what I couldn't remember the name of!  Showing ~2MB/sec every other poll.02:56
Shadowandlighthttp://anonymousmedia.org/paste/a6hkKb0t02:57
Shadowandlightprivatepaste detected that as spam haha02:57
Shadowandlightsomsip:02:57
bdd_newbiehmmm02:59
somsipShadowandlight: and what happened when you ran apt-get update ?02:59
Shadowandlightah its in ip problem03:00
Shadowandlighthmm werid, i setup static ip...03:00
Shadowandlightand its not working03:00
Shadowandlighthttps://privatepaste.com/d2163957b103:01
Shadowandlightwhat i mess up?03:02
Shadowandlightit pings?03:02
LuckySMackis there an easy way to restore normal efi booting in windows after installing ubuntu?03:02
Sparrow_hi03:02
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GalgorthDoes ubuntu support 1920x1080 resolution? I'm using Virtualbox w/ Ubuntu 64 bit 12.04 and after installing guest additions I'm only able to get the resolution up to 1600x1200.03:05
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Q_Continuumcynicist: I had the drive mounted when I started dd operation, it now appears to be complete via iotop but df still shows only 24K used and attempts to browse the drive are met with an I/O error (On Fedora in XFCE).03:08
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cynicistQ_Continuum: unplug the drive and plug it back in03:09
Q_Continuumcynicist: And working.  Now to hope this write worked unlike the last two (albit those were from windows)03:10
cynicistQ_Continuum: DD has not yet failed me :)03:10
Q_Continuum:-D03:10
daniel11all back and working again. so a question about those nvidia binaries - does no one use them? or do y'all just put up with crappy hardware acceleration? :-P03:11
Q_Continuumcynicist: I had deleted the files that were on it (from the previous failed image) then did the dd operation.  Booting to it I get 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt'03:12
Q_ContinuumI'm gonna guess I screwed it up somehow. lol03:12
cynicistQ_Continuum: hmm, fortunately it is easy to test03:12
Q_Continuumplugged it back into the functional system03:12
cynicistQ_Continuum: format it as fat32 and try DD again, if that doesn't work I'd say you have a corrupt iso03:13
Q_Continuumcynicist: I md5sum'd it and it matched :-/03:14
Q_Continuumwell...from what the mirror had for an md503:14
cynicistQ_Continuum: I would try a different iso (downloaded using bittorrent is best for automatic file checking) and if that fails as well it could just be your flash drive having issues03:15
Q_Continuumcynicist: This is the second drive I've tried03:15
Q_Continuumanyway reformatting03:15
cynicistQ_Continuum: oh and be sure you are using "/dev/sdd" and not "/dev/sdd1"03:16
Q_Continuumcynicist: Oops that is probably what I did. lol03:17
Q_ContinuumWell grabbing the torrent anyway03:18
cynicistQ_Continuum: believe me you aren't the only one, I remember spending an hour or two grabbing isos and testing my flash drive before I realized what I had done lol03:18
Q_Continuumcynicist: This time its actually writing it out instead of caching it to be flushed since I'm targeting /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sdb103:23
Q_ContinuumShould be much more useful03:24
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donphinneyI have a HP 2000 laptop that has an odd issue with Ubuntu desktop 64(and 32) as well as Lubuntu desktop 64(and 32) both normal install as well as alternate. after install the laptop display stay blank on reboot, but if you plug in an external monitor allow it time to detect the external display, then unplug it the laptop display comes on and works fine until next reboot...03:28
wilee-nileedonphinney, Have you tried a nomodeset boot to get in and check for graphic drivers after a update if needed in additional drivers03:32
Q_Continuumcynicist: Out of paranoia making this one check itself too.03:32
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wilee-nileedonphinney, Not sure why you are having to do all that, but here is some info. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201011-6700/03:33
donphinneyDoes not seem to need additional drivers, it detects the display fine after I plug in and external then unplug it.03:33
wilee-nileedonphinney, You are probably right, not sure of the issue though, has does the live cd go?03:34
Q_Continuum...and verified good.  Starting install.03:35
donphinneylive cd for normal desktop needs external monitor, and has same issue03:35
drusepthHmm. Is "The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/" a common error when installing the latest x64 desktop iso on a new (efi) laptop?03:36
drusepthlaptop model is lenovo yoga 1303:36
wilee-nileedonphinney, I see this problem listed in these threads, maybe some info there. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=HP+200003:37
wilee-nileeQ_Continuum, A smattering of applause for the effort. ;)03:37
Q_Continuumwilee-nilee: Thanks ;)03:38
wilee-nileeQ_Continuum, If anything we give moral support. ;)03:38
wilee-nilee!uefi | drusepth have you looked here.03:39
ubottudrusepth have you looked here.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI03:39
wilee-nileedrusepth, More info, the UF and that mod is the best help, make a thread they will stop by. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729503:40
mrdebyes uefi is my microsoft to stop linux install03:40
mrdebby03:40
donphinneywillee I have exhasted those options before I came to the chat room :-(03:40
drusepthYes, I went through the steps there last night, wilee-nilee03:40
wilee-nileemrdeb, Funny MS is the biggest contributer to the linux kernel.03:40
wilee-nileehttp://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/linux-kernel-in-2011-15-million-total-lines-of-code-and-microsoft-is-a-top-contributor/03:41
wilee-nileemrdeb, The anti OS does not really go well on any channel03:43
pvl1what app should i use to host/serv debs via apt03:44
snuffthey guys. i've just checked to see what disks are on my machine with ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and it's given me 3 results. 2 of them start with dm-[number] and the other is sda1. what would the dm disks be for? swap?03:45
pvl1snufft: fdisk -l03:46
wilee-nileesnufft, What is your definition of discs, it seems you have it mixed with partitions?03:47
irssi-mikesnufft: ls is listing the contents of your present working directory, not the disks themselves03:47
snufftpvl1: fdisk -l returns nothing03:48
pvl1snufft: sudo fdisk -l03:48
irssi-mikesnufft: df -h03:49
snufftwilee-nilee: aside from swap, there are no other partitions on this machine that i'm aware of03:49
pvl1irssi-mike: think thats my fave :)03:49
Shadowandlightsudo apt-get install apache2-dev wont download?03:49
snufftirssi-mike: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ is giving me dir of /dev/disk/by-uuid/03:49
Shadowandlight!info apache2-dev03:49
ubottuPackage apache2-dev does not exist in raring03:49
wilee-nileesnufft, Really no operating systems all unallocated03:49
wilee-nileesnufft, Pastebin sudo fdsik -l03:50
snufftwilee-nilee: sorry, swap and the os partition03:50
snufftpvl1: that's what I needed, thanks :)03:50
wilee-nileesudo fdisk -l*03:50
irssi-mikesnufft: oh, okay sorry03:50
pvl1snufft: no problem03:51
wilee-nileesnufft, Cool, it seems you are getting what you need.03:51
pvl1hey there wilee-nilee, found an awesome package for my little project. deborphan03:51
irssi-mikesnufft: swapon -s03:52
wilee-nileepvl1, Cool, that was a cutom ISO right?03:53
wilee-nileecustom*03:53
pvl1wilee-nilee: indeed!03:54
huluhelo everyone03:56
huluwhy the gnome-terminal can't setup03:56
wilee-nilee!details | hulu03:57
ubottuhulu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."03:57
huluwilee-nilee: I have a problem with gnome-terminal. I'm running Ubuntu version 13.04. When I try to config the gnome-terminal the setup windows is gray04:00
theadminhulu: Err... I'm not sure I understand the problem. Gray?04:01
lotuspsychjesnufft: i hear someone recommend swapspace yesterday, maybe its also usefull for you?04:01
hulutheadmin: gray means can't config04:01
pvl1hulu: config how...04:02
huluall config is gray04:02
theadminhulu: Oh... Hm. Oddity. This is an odd suggestion, but run gnome-terminal from a terminal (another instance of gnome-terminal, or maybe xterm) and paste the output when it hangs04:02
theadminhulu: Never mind, it doesn't produce any :/04:03
anoneehi, say added user1 to make daemon1 run before i login, user1 doesn't have a password by default, then later I added a password, and deleted that password again. is the user is still supposed to be able to run daemon1 before me or any user with gui logs into the system?04:03
hulutheadmin: no output04:04
anoneeis the user still*04:04
theadminanonee: The presence of a password shouldn't matter to Upstart.04:04
anoneethank you theadmin!04:05
hulutheadmin: i guess the .gconf User rights04:05
hulutheadmin: but when i change the owner to current user, still can't config04:06
theadminhulu: Hm. Yes, those could be a problem...04:06
theadminhulu: Also ~/.gnome and such.04:07
pvl1hulu: are you running dpkg-reconfigure, are you editing the config file... what do you mean config04:08
theadminpvl1: (s)he means opening the preferences dialog.04:08
anoneewhat'04:08
anoneesorry, what's the meaning of thinClient?04:08
theadminanonee: Eh. A machine whose sole purpose is to connect to another machine via some remote desktop thingy04:09
hulutheadmin: yes04:09
pvl1theadmin: thank you04:10
pvl1hulu: open a terminal, killall instances of gnome-terminal, and run it from terminal with debug option, and then open config04:10
pvl1hulu: or go dig through your logs04:10
pvl1hulu: less  /var/log/whateverTHEgnomeLOGfileIS04:11
pvl1anonee: passwords dont matter if root is telling the user what to do04:11
theadminpvl1: Gnome-Terminal wouldn't log to /var/log, it requires root access to write to.04:12
anoneepvl1 thank you, now I understand more04:12
hulupvl1: can't find /var/log/whateverTHEgnomeLOGfileIS04:12
hulupvl1: how to run debug mode04:12
bertogattihulu: gnome-terminal --gtk-debug=ALL04:14
pvl1im not running.... thanks bertogatti04:14
bertogattihulu: I'm not sure04:14
pvl1i assumed gnome-terminal -V or -v or g or d04:15
bertogattihulu: you can look through gnome-terminal --help-all04:15
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hulupvl1: thx04:16
hulubertogatti: thx04:16
hululet me try04:16
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anoneethanks to all, bye bye.04:17
hulupvl1: no any message04:18
theblindowlhi. please someone help me install a tar.gz program04:18
wilee-nileetheblindowl, you checked the repos first to see if you need the tar?04:19
hulupvl1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931448/04:19
theadminI swear... why don't people get this... theblindowl: .tar.gz is an archive, it can contain absolutely anything.04:19
bertogattitheblindowl: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html04:19
bertogattihulu: the window is blank for Edit > Profile Preferences, but does the same thing happen for other windows like Edit > Profiles, Terminal > Title, etc.?04:21
theblindowlbrothers please write the command for me. this is where the file is : /home/theblindowl/Downloads/reaver-1.4.tar.gz04:21
bertogattitheblindowl: check out the link04:21
theadmintheblindowl: reaver is in the repositories. "sudo apt-get install reaver". And we're not your brothers.04:22
wilee-nileereaver-1.4.tar.gz - reaver-wps - Reaver v1.4 - "Brute force attack ..."04:22
pvl1hulu: can you try running gnome-panel from terminal, and opening this config. if anything is output from terminal, pastebin please04:23
theadminwilee-nilee: Eh. Security testing. Nothing wrong with that... Depends on how you use it, though.04:23
wilee-nileetheadmin, Yeah. ;)04:23
theblindowltheadmin,  I'm running ubuntu 12.04 brother. and i cannot find those packages you mentioned04:23
theadmintheblindowl: Oh, it indeed is not in Precise.04:24
theadmintheblindowl: You could search for a PPA. I have no idea what their tarball is. AND DON'T CALL ME BROTHER :/ It's offensive.04:24
wilee-nileeI hardly think our "brother has good intentions", they cannot even install it, security testing is super geekville04:24
theblindowltheadmin,  so what should i do bro04:24
hulubertogatti: the Edit > Profile Preferences is gray, but the Terminal > Title can run04:25
bertogattitheblindowl: i repeat http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html04:25
pvl1theblindowl: start from the basics04:25
hulupvl1: i havn't the gnome-panel04:25
pvl1theblindowl: http://bit.ly/14B4prJ04:26
theblindowlthanks brothers04:26
wilee-nileebad pvl1 no soup for you. ;)04:26
pvl1hulu: im sorry i didnt understand. you havent the gnome panel?04:26
pvl1wilee-nilee: ;) gotta teach somehow right04:27
theadmin!google | pvl104:27
ubottupvl1: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.04:27
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pvl1:(04:27
theblindowlSorry guys my english is bad04:27
xmetalalot of times a simple websearch (i use duckduckgo or startpage) would answer alot of the basic questions04:27
hulupvl1: what's the gnome panel command04:27
theadminpvl1: Also, although it's not a rule, URL shorteners are evil. You can usually tell what the link might be from looking at the URL, but with URL shorteners... who knows?04:27
pvl1hulu: oh oops gnome-terminal sorry04:28
bertogattihulu: at worst you can always try Guake04:28
pvl1theadmin: fair enoughm i chose the second button to shorten so itd look pretty. i think im ocd04:28
pvl1theadmin: next time perhaps ill make it more obvious04:28
pvl1jk04:28
xmetali (when using tinyurl's shortener) change the http://www.tinyurl/whatever to http://preview.tinyurl/whatever ... thisw way without any addons needed it will take you to the site that TELLS YOU where your going04:29
xmetalthen you can click the link there to "go there"04:29
hulubertogatti: what means Guake04:29
theadminxmetal: Works with is.gd too: http://is.gd/blah to http://is.gd/blah+04:29
xmetali fully understand not wanting to click a link, not knowing where it's going04:30
bertogattibertogatti: another shell emulator04:30
theadminxmetal: Err, - not +04:30
bertogatti*****hulu:04:30
hulupvl1: let me try04:32
bertogattihulu: I have to go, sorry i couldn't help, hope you solve your problem04:34
rreedMy mouse won't register any changes from the default setting. After lowering the sensitivity and closing the Mouse Settings window, it resets every time. Any suggestions?04:38
pvl1resets after closing the window you mean?04:39
holsteinrreed: so, it "registers" the settings? and resets them?04:39
rreedpvl1,  Yes, after I close the window, it resets.04:39
rreedholstein, It registers the settings if I raise it from default, but not when I lower it.04:40
rreedWas fixing to go try to edit my xorg.conf, but figured I'd check in here to see if anyone might have any other ideas.04:40
pvl1rreed: have you tried editing the config files for X (im pretty sure its X?)04:40
pvl1;)04:41
hulupvl1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931479/04:41
hulupvl1: i get this message04:41
rreedpvl1, At least I was headed in the right direction originally ;)04:41
pvl1rreed, i mean we CAN debug... but that could take god knows how long04:41
holsteinhulu: what have you tried? all of those suggestions?04:42
pentesterfdrf04:42
pvl1hulu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-terminal04:42
pvl1hulu: as holstein said, try the suggestions in your message04:44
hulupvl1: i have reconfig the gnome-termianl04:44
holsteinhulu: have you tried all the other suggestions?04:44
hulupvl1: i don't know how to do04:44
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outcoldmanjust got my chromecast, it is awesome04:46
holsteinhulu: you dont know how to do the suggestions from the output you gave? what are you having troube with?04:46
pvl1holstein: did the reconfig work04:46
pvl1holstein: their config windows for gnome-terminal comes up all grey04:46
pvl1hulu: did the reconfig work04:47
huluholstein: i don't know how to do the suggestions04:47
pvl1outcoldman: how is it04:47
holsteinhulu: what exactly do you not understand?04:48
holsteinhulu: i would blow out the config first.. i also wouldnt hesitate to just install another terminal emulator04:49
huluholstein: i don't know how to do04:50
holsteinhulu: what do i suggest? try as a new user, then, if all is normal, you will know that the issue is in your user's /home04:50
pvl1holstein: does a dpkg-reconfigure wipe config files?04:51
holsteinhulu: you have to say "i dont know how to follow step A" for example04:51
holsteinpvl1: not sure...04:51
outcoldmanpvl1, http://askubuntu.com/a/326233/16942604:51
holsteinhulu: if you are saying, "i dont know how to follow the suggestions", im saying, read them... if you have a question about one, or need help interpreting one, past it here, and a volunteer can help04:52
holsteinpaste*04:52
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pvl1outcoldman: how much was it04:56
pvl1and whats the quality on it04:56
thunder1212hi, i am enabling ufw and i have access to a network printer.. so will i allow an exception by sudo ufw allow 631/udp ?04:56
holsteinthunder1212: if thats what the printer needs04:57
thunder1212holstein: how do i know? i assume the printer is accesed from port 631.04:57
thunder1212holstein: and does ufw really protect from hackers?04:58
holsteinthunder1212: i wouldnt assume.. i would pull the firewall down, and test.. then you'll know the printer is working04:58
holsteinthunder1212: you are likely behind a router, with a firewall, so does your system need one at home? you have to answer that04:59
holstein!firewall04:59
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo04:59
holstein!info gufw04:59
ubottugufw (source: gui-ufw): graphical user interface for ufw. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.04.0-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 229 kB, installed size 1178 kB04:59
holsteinthunder1212: ^^ thats a GUI frontend which should help.. but your printer could be on any port.. dont assume, consult the manufacturer05:00
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lotuspsychje!cookie | holstein05:15
ubottuholstein: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!05:15
lotuspsychje:p05:15
Dresk|LaptopHey, so I'm switching over from Mandrake / Mageia, and the one BIG thing I loved about Mageia was drakxservices, the thing that listed everything that started at boot and had start / stop buttons and a checkbox for if it should start at boot - does Ubuntu have something similar?05:19
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santoshHow to get current brightness level of the screen?05:20
theadmin"Mandrake"... That's one I didn't hear in a while05:20
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santoshprogramatically05:23
murgeroHey guys!05:23
murgerohow is everyone?05:23
babinlonstonI want to Open port Number 2812 and i need to acces it from remote ip how can i write iptables rules for this05:24
ptuladharSeriously? username and password was compromised of ubuntuforums.org few days back??????05:26
Someguy123ptuladhar, a few days back?05:26
Someguy123it was nearly 2 weeks ago05:26
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ptuladharsad to hear that.05:27
goddardhas anyone had luck using cross-fire with 7950's on ubuntu?05:28
goddardit seems to lock up on me when i try to use cross fire05:28
YokoBRhey guys, i'm using ubuntu 10.04, but i can't make vsftpd work...05:31
wilee-nileeYokoBR, desktop or server?05:32
YokoBRserver05:32
robertzaccourIs there still an Ubuntu minimal install ISO?05:32
wilee-nileeYokoBR, I figured so.05:32
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, What release?05:32
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: current05:33
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, The minimal is still there now called alternative I believe.05:33
wilee-nileehttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads05:34
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: I mean like it used to be where it opens with no GUI with the repos at your hands so I can install whatever DE I want without having to bother with leftovers from another DE05:34
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, Look at the link, that is what it is.05:34
wilee-nileeonly the name has changed05:35
theadminrobertzaccour: The alternative downloads has a netinstall image. That's what you want.05:35
YokoBRvsftpd just won't work.  The version is 2.2.2, on Ubuntu 10.0405:35
robertzaccourtheadmin: Oh ok thanks.05:35
lgcHi, how can I bypass Unity?05:36
asdasdasdHello friends and colleagues I would like to be friends and talk on the irc05:36
wilee-nileelgc, What do you mean exactly?05:36
asdasdasdHe mean dat u R da homsax05:36
asdasdasdI need halp wit my install uv debanto05:37
wilee-nilee!ot | asdasdasd05:37
ubottuasdasdasd: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:37
YokoBRthis is an off topic, but just to share because i'm so happy: today i've found my biological family on facebook. My biological sister, to be exact. Ok, sorry.05:37
lgcwilee-nilee: I mean having options, like something Gnome-like without having to uninstall Unity.05:37
asdasdasdunity is my favrte ice cream flabor of debanto05:38
lgcYokoBR: Really?05:38
asdasdasdyes05:38
wilee-nileelgc, Which gnome the gnome 3 desktop called the gnome-shell, or the fallback a pseudo gnome 2?05:38
wilee-nileeasdasdasd, This is not chat it is support, go to #ubuntu-offtopic05:38
theadminlgc: The closest to the old, traditional Ubuntu style is Xfce. You can install Xubuntu, or xubuntu-desktop from the repos. It's got exactly the same feel, but more functional05:38
lgcGnome 3 is sort of Unity-like, for what I've heard. I suppose I want the pseudo-gnome thing.05:39
YokoBRlgc, really, i couldn't believe that. They've lived in 3, 4 different cities. And then i've found an user with the same surname... so i've found her :)05:39
YokoBRwe chatted all day and shared photos05:39
theadminlgc: There's also gnome-fallback-session but it became rather limited now05:39
YokoBR27 yeas05:39
lgcYokoBR: Congrats.05:39
YokoBRyears05:39
YokoBRthanks, lgc :)05:39
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: Can the alternate install install Ubuntu without a DE at all?05:39
wilee-nileeYokoBR, #ubuntu-offtopic please and congrats. ;)05:40
Dresk|LaptopShameless repost, beccause I would deeply appreciate a response! :) Hey, so I'm switching over from Mandrake / Mageia, and the one BIG thing I loved about Mageia was drakxservices, the thing that listed everything that started at boot and had start / stop buttons and a checkbox for if it should start at boot - does Ubuntu have something similar?05:40
theadminrobertzaccour: No, it's just a text installer for the full Ubuntu setup, use the mini.iso (netinstall)05:40
YokoBRsorry, wilee-nilee, and thanks for the tip05:40
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, yeah, I believe it is the base without X if you add nothing05:40
wilee-nilee!nounity | lgc05:41
ubottulgc: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic05:41
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: so would mini.iso or net installer be best for installing without a DE? I ask because I wanna install Mate on it without having another DE I don't want. Until Ubuntu has a Mate derivative that is.05:41
vnc786hello all !!! for last couple of months my dhcp service use to get start after boot (12.04 64bit) but last 2 days suddenly its is not getting at boot however tight now i have managed to start at boot by putting in /etc/network/if-up.d/05:42
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, I believe there are the same, the mini is now called the alternative.05:42
wilee-nileethey*05:42
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: oh ok thanks05:42
lgctheadmin, wilee-nilee, I'd like to try both, actually. Is it possible? Do I get to choose on the logon screen?05:42
theadminlgc: Yup05:42
wilee-nileethe previous alternative was discontinued05:42
vnc786but was curious how it happened suddenly i have not update anything nor i have made any changes05:42
sgo11hi, is that possible to turn my socks proxy (ssh tunneling) to https proxy? I am using android sdk manager which only supports https proxy. thanks.05:44
wilee-nileelgc, You can install both and there is a website that has meta lists for "some" of the desktops to remove any you don't want to keep05:44
MarTromhi guys. having a lil trouble updating this system. its been in a box for a few months. running 12.04 LTS, it found 96 updates but getting 404 when trying to install em05:44
theadminMarTrom: Maybe you should re-check for updates05:44
lgcwilee-nilee: I think I don't quite get the meta-list thing. Please explain.05:44
theadminMarTrom: It may be trying to download old ones by some chance05:44
gordonjcpMarTrom: can you actually connect to the Internet?05:44
wilee-nileelgc, see the playing around section for the meta lists. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/05:45
theadminlgc: A metapackage is such a package that is empty, and it's sole purpose is to pull in other packages through dependencies05:45
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theadminlgc: ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop are examples05:45
wilee-nileelgc, Basicall if you install a desktop there are packages that can't be removed by just running a apt-get remove, so you want the whole list called a meta list.05:45
wilee-nileeDoh, you got it the adamk05:46
wilee-nileetheadmin, ^^^05:46
afflicto_Hey guys. my gnome shell froze. I did ctrl+alt+f2 . how can I reset gnome shell?05:46
afflicto_not reset but restart. without restarting all my applications.05:46
wilee-nileeafflicto_, alt-fr-r from the desktop05:47
wilee-nileesorry alt-f2-r05:47
sgo11afflicto_, can you run commands? or alt+f2?05:47
MarTromgordonjcp, I am online right now from the system05:47
afflicto_ok thanks. turns out, I went back to GUI using ctlr+alt+f7 and it was automatically reset or something.05:47
wilee-nileeafflicto_, a restart from the desktop leaving all apps runing is alt-f2-r05:48
lgctheadmin: I can't find much of Xfce. In fact xubuntu-desktop doesn't seem to exist.05:49
theadminlgc: ...huh?05:50
theadminlgc: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop05:50
theadminlgc: Or click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/xubuntu-desktop05:50
sgo11hi, I can use ssh to create socks proxy. but now, I need https proxy. is that possible to turn my socks proxy to https proxy? thanks.05:50
lgctheadmin: Doesn't work. It doesn't seem to locate the package.05:52
theadminlgc: ...What Ubuntu version is this?05:52
lgctheadmin: I just installed from a 12.04 CD.05:53
theadminlgc: Okay. Hm. Install all updates and try again.05:54
theadminlgc: The package lists may not be loaded yet05:54
theadminlgc: Or just run sudo apt-get update05:54
lgctheadmin: I'll do the update first05:54
IncreaseHello05:55
IncreaseAnyone here?05:55
theadminIncrease: Yup05:55
IncreaseHey05:55
IncreaseI need help installing something05:55
babinlonstonyes tell me05:55
z8zIncrease: You see the list .... yes we are here+05:55
theadmin!details | Increase05:55
ubottuIncrease: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."05:55
IncreaseOkay, I've got this download. I successfully extracted it and now when I sudo apt-get install or ./configure won't work05:56
IncreaseI can't cd to the folder on the desktop either05:56
IncreaseI've updated apt-get as well05:56
theadminIncrease: Is the software you're looking for in the repositories?05:56
theadminIncrease: If not, it won't work with apt05:57
z8zIncrease: If you downloaded something you have to compile with configure unless is a binary or a package05:57
IncreaseI have no clue what the repositories is05:57
theadminIncrease: The Software Center?05:58
z8zIncrease: Just a database of softwares05:58
IncreaseNo, I'm not using the software center05:58
z8zto install stuff without you bother around downloading and installing... and also version is chosen by ubuntu team as the stable one05:58
theadminIncrease: Why not? It has a ton of software.05:59
theadminIncrease: And apt-get uses the same software database as the Software Centre, you can't just apt-get install a tarball anyway05:59
IncreaseI'm trying to get into network security and downloading reaver/aircrack-ng06:00
IncreaseFirst time using linux/ubuntu06:00
IncreaseReaver isn't on the software center06:00
z8zIncrease: you can add the repository and you have it too06:00
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theadminIncrease: It is, at least on 13.04.06:01
z8zIncrease: if you don't have in the list is because ubuntu team considered that unsafe or illegal06:01
z8zIncrease: but still you can add specific repository and you have it06:01
theadminz8z: Nah, they just can't add ALL the software to the database, after all, there's tons of it06:01
lgctheadmin: you were right. Upon updating it became aware of xubuntu-desktop.06:03
z8zwell i can't  ever see any network attack tool in ubuntu repos06:03
theadminlgc: Yay.06:03
theadminz8z: aircrack-ng is. Reaver is, too, but only since Raring.06:03
z8ztheadmin: ok probably became stable then06:04
theadminz8z: Stability is not the issue, keeping track of thousands of pieces of software is :P And deciding whether their quality satisfies Ubuntu06:04
lgcby the way, I had trouble choosing the right keboard type. How can I do it again?06:04
theadminlgc: Keyboard type? You mean Layout?06:04
theadmins/L/l/06:05
z8ztheadmin: yeah this is what i'm telling06:05
lgctheadmin: yep.06:05
z8zIncrease: wanna save time? just install backtrack and you have everything you need06:05
theadminlgc: Well, on Unity, System Settings -> Keyboard Layout, on Xfce, Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard.06:05
qinz8z06:05
z8zqin: What? :D06:06
lgctheadmin: It's not the same tool that configured it initially. It's quite limited, I think.06:07
qinz8z: from 10.10 you can include bt repos in ubuntu.... sorry strugle with pad06:07
z8ztheadmin: can you tell me why ubuntu team consider normal quality a package like krusader?06:07
theadminz8z: I don't see anything wrong with it.06:07
z8zqin: oh good ... didn't know that06:07
z8ztheadmin: full of bugs06:08
theadminz8z: Hm. I never used it. Midnight Commander ftw ;)06:08
z8ztheadmin: well.... it also says is a beta but06:08
z8ztheadmin: midnight as too few feature compared to krusader06:09
z8ztheadmin: if just Jean (the developer) fix those remaining bugs the 2.4.0 version is best twin panel in the world06:10
lgctheadmin: do you know of any other tool for keyboard configuration?06:11
theadminlgc: Uh. No, not really06:13
theadminz8z: Hamsters.06:13
lgctheadmin: OK, thanks.06:13
cappicardgood evening. I have 13.04 on my desktop. Every time I  try to plug in my xbox controller, I keep getting  "unable to enumerate USB device on port 2."06:13
der_kleenegood morning06:13
cappicardit does initially detect my xbox controller, but then i get port disabled (emi)06:14
z8ztheadmin: what is that?06:15
theadminz8z: A kind of animal :D06:15
z8ztheadmin: lol :D06:15
z8ztheadmin: thanks for the tip :D06:16
qinhapster is closest to perpetum mobile we could get.06:17
goddardok i have a trash folder on my mounted drive and i ran nautilus as root so of course i can't restore the trash items06:17
goddardhow can i restore the trash items?06:17
z8zgoddard: no way.... better to reinstall os06:18
goddardz8z: ? my os is fine06:19
z8zgoddard: lol just kidding :D06:19
z8zgoddard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28639/how-do-i-restore-the-trash-icon-on-the-desktop06:19
goddardi dont want to restore the trash icon06:20
z8zgoddard: oh sorry read just now what you exactly asked06:20
goddardi deleted files in "sudo nautilus" now I have a trash folder that has root permissions and I can't restore the files on my mounted drive that is not my main drive.06:20
danny4wayhow to update all apps on ubuntu?06:21
goddarddanny4way: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade06:21
danny4wayI don't think there is an option for updating on Software Manager06:21
z8zdanny4way: sudo apt-get update -V06:21
danny4wayOh okay. Thanks guy06:21
z8zdanny4way: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V06:21
danny4wayBecause I am trying to update PlayonLinux06:21
vnc786hello all !!! for last couple of months my dhcp service use to get start after boot (12.04 64bit) but last 2 days suddenly its is not getting up at boot however right now i have managed to start at boot by putting in /etc/network/if-up.d/06:21
z8zdanny4way: run both06:21
vnc786but was curious how it happened suddenly i have not update anything nor i have made any changes06:21
danny4wayBut by running those commands, will it show what apps are updated?06:22
z8zof course06:22
danny4wayOh oKay. Thanks z8z06:22
z8zdanny4way: -V option stays for verbose06:22
danny4wayI just did it but it doesn't require reboot. Does it?06:23
z8zdanny4way: only if it updated system packages06:23
z8zdanny4way: if in doubt just reboot06:23
danny4wayno. Unfortunately, It doesn't work06:23
sgo11hi, I have given Socks Host in Network Proxy under "System Settings". and in terminal, set | grep -i proxy shows proxy variables are defined. but it doesn't work at all. all the connections I made do not go through the socks proxy. why? thanks.06:23
danny4wayI just run sudo apt-get update.06:24
danny4wayIt doens'nt work06:24
danny4wayBut I will try your command.06:24
danny4wayHold on.06:24
z8zdanny4way: what it says?06:24
danny4wayI am not sure. I closed it.06:24
z8zgoddard: why you would ever need to get something you putted in the trash?06:24
danny4wayBecause they have all those results about all links and stuff.06:25
danny4waySo I got confused.06:25
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z8zstart->system->update manager06:25
gordonjcpgoddard: first thing, don't do "sudo nautilus"06:25
gordonjcpgoddard: where is this Trash directory you can't get rid of?06:26
danny4wayAnd ?06:26
danny4wayz8z06:26
danny4wayI tried that before already. It just actually update ubuntu and other built in apps06:26
danny4wayBut I can't update apps like PlayonLinux or something like wine06:26
danny4wayBTW, apt-get upgrade doesn't work06:29
danny4wayIt says E: Could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)06:29
babinlonstonGive me a iptables rules to open the port number 2812 both incoming and out going06:29
danny4wayE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?06:30
danny4wayWhat to do?06:30
danny4wayAnyone?06:30
danny4wayI seriously need to update my app (PlayonLinux) to install windows app that I want.06:30
gordonjcpdanny4way: what does the error message say?06:30
danny4wayE: Could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)06:30
danny4wayE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?06:31
gordonjcpokay06:31
gordonjcpbreak it down06:31
peterrooneydanny4way: re-read the whole error message.06:31
Myrttidanny4way: sudo apt-get06:31
danny4wayOh. My bad06:31
gordonjcpMyrtti: if you just give people the answer they don't learn ;-)06:31
danny4wayI didn't put sudo06:31
gordonjcpdanny4way: the clue is the "are you root?"06:31
danny4wayBut still. Results come out with 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded06:32
danny4wayWhat does that suppose to mean?  Doesn't that sudo apt-get upgrade command suppose to update my apps?06:32
gordonjcpdanny4way: right, but only stuff that is packaged06:32
danny4wayBut still my "PlayonLinux" is still in same version.06:32
gordonjcpdanny4way: where did you install this PlayonLinux from?06:33
babinlonstonany one there06:33
danny4wayI am not sure but it's either  by commands from terminal or software center06:33
sgo11anyone ever successfully configured system wide socks proxy? google search tells me no one is successful on this.06:34
gordonjcpdanny4way: if there's an updated package available from whoever provides that, you could try installing that06:34
gordonjcpdanny4way: if you install over the top of an older version, it will use the newer version06:34
danny4wayOh really?06:34
danny4waySo if i do sudo apt-get install playonlinux again it will install newer version?06:35
danny4wayIs that what you are saying?06:35
gordonjcpdanny4way: if there's a newer version packaged for the distro you're using06:35
danny4wayOH okay.06:36
gordonjcpik.;/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm##############################{}@~#####y6t06:36
danny4wayI will do it again.06:36
danny4wayThank you. I will try it.06:36
gordonjcp^^^ Suzie cat says hi06:36
goddardgordonjcp: its on my mounted drive06:36
goddardi dont want to get rid of it06:36
gordonjcpgoddard: what are you trying to do with it?06:36
gordonjcpdanny4way: what version do you have at the moment?06:36
danny4way4.1.106:37
danny4wayBut in order to install the program that I want, It has to be  4.2.106:37
gordonjcpdanny4way: well the one packaged is 4.0.1406:39
danny4wayOh. I will just look through it.06:40
gordonjcpdanny4way: if there's a newer one on the author's website, packaged as a .deb for Ubuntu, then you can download and install that06:40
danny4wayRIght now one app that I need seems to work fine06:40
danny4wayIt installed fine. But i am actually gonna install the one that I actually need.06:40
danny4wayOH yeah. It's upgraded now.06:40
danny4wayI just need to give a command 'sudo apt-get install playonlinux06:41
goddardnvm06:42
IncreaseHello06:43
IncreaseAnyone here?06:43
anoneehello ubuntu! I'm trying to make sure if this situation is supposed to work correctly: a daemon needs to access a partition mounted by "Storage Device Manager" before a user with a GUI logs in. the daemon has its own gid and uid?06:45
voilaCan any one tell me what is the problem with this simple command for file in $(awk '{print $1}' k169bteq.txt) ; do cp /opt/datastage/uv/projects/scripts/TTU_Scripts/BTEQ/$file k169mock; done06:45
StarOnDHello, I have ubuntu on one partition, I just installed ubuntu a slightly different verision on a 2nd partition from a live usb, but the 2nd ubuntu did not show up in the grub entry, what can i do ?06:46
Cpt_Zyphwhy dost ubuntu use SELinux?? is this a redhat only thing or ?? is it not needed in non fedora distros??06:48
IncreaseWhat do you do if the pcap library is not found?06:49
ANubhello!06:51
vint59hi06:51
ANubwhen i login to ubuntuforums.org.......my username as it appears has changed and "2" has been appended in the end. Furthermore all the activity / threads / posts by me are not visible in my profile....how can i fix it...?06:52
sgo11Hi, I only have socks proxy. but adt manager only supports https proxy for connections. what can I do? thanks.06:54
spherowelcome back06:55
ANubwhen i login to ubuntuforums.org.......my username as it appears has changed and "2" has been appended in the end. Furthermore all the activity / threads / posts by me are not visible in my profile....how can i fix it...?06:57
spheroi froze my ubuntu pc what do i do to fix06:57
zipper /connect irc.spotchat.org06:57
alfreddbahow to monit remote server from local browser06:58
wilee-nileeANub, Closest channel to the forums is #ubuntuforums06:58
alfreddbaam using monit06:58
IncreaseAnyone help with a make install?06:58
IncreaseI'm getting this problem http://pastebin.com/4xjqGaBm06:58
spheroty for help06:58
babinlonstonuff no one is helping.....06:59
z8zwhat do you need?06:59
Myrttibabinlonston: have you done any iptables rules on that machine earlier?06:59
z8zIncrease: use admin privileges to install stuff06:59
alfreddbahow to monit remote server from local browser..i installed monit in remote server and configured...how to monit remote server from local browser...pls help me...07:00
babinlonstonYes there some07:00
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z8zIncrease: put "sudo" in front of every command or "sudo su" and become permanent admin for that session07:00
z8zalfreddba: never used that07:01
wilee-nileez8z, sudo su is a bad idea07:01
z8zalfreddba: but checking07:01
z8zwilee-nilee: just to do a make why not?07:01
babinlonstonMyrtti: just i need to enable one port for incoming and outgoing for that port , and already there are some rules , then how can i add my new rules and get activated ..07:01
wilee-nileez8z, sudo -i is used has to do with permissions, and if you advise that it should come with a warning. ;)07:02
z8zalfreddba: what happen when you try to connect from browser?07:03
wilee-nileeIncrease, Whay are you not using the version in the repos?07:03
IncreaseWhat do you mean?07:04
Myrttibabinlonston: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/06/iptables-rules-examples/ seems to have some pointers07:04
z8zIncrease: yeah still wondering why you don't use that from repos07:04
babinlonstonk ill check07:04
Increasez8z, I don't know what that is07:04
z8zIncrease: repos = repository = ubuntu software database07:04
IncreaseHow do I use it?07:05
IncreaseFirst time ubuntu user07:05
z8zIncrease: = software center07:05
alfreddbaz8z:  unable to connect from 2812 port...07:05
auronandace!software | Increase07:05
ubottuIncrease: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents07:05
babinlonstonMyrtti: already i have the link and got no idea so what i came here07:05
IncreaseI search reaver in SC and I get nothing back07:05
murliMurli07:05
Increase!software07:05
Myrttibabinlonston: see example 507:06
auronandaceIncrease: compiling is always a last resort (and anything you compile we can't really support you here with)07:06
Myrttibabinlonston: er, no, example 407:06
z8zIncrease: in the settings menu of software center go into repository area an check every repository is active07:06
Increasez8z, I don't see a settings button anywhere07:07
z8zIncrease: like main universe restricted and multiverse07:07
J-BBBHi, anyone know why me prerouting on ufw not work? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931784/ I get always ERROR: problem running ufw-init and nothing rule work.07:07
babinlonstonk07:07
auronandace!pm | Increase07:07
ubottuIncrease: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.07:07
z8zalfreddba: are you trying to connect to your home host?07:08
z8zIncrease: find something about repository i don't remember the name07:08
IncreaseIs there anyway to turn off the join/disconnect messages?07:08
z8zIncrease: i usually do everything from terminal07:08
IncreaseThis is my first time using ubuntu07:09
IncreaseI don't really know what a lot of this stuff you guys are talking about is07:09
z8zauronandace: cause you probably didn't open your router or firewall port07:09
MyrttiIncrease: top left corner, settings, hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS07:10
MyrttiIncrease: the little blue button07:10
IncreaseMyrtti thanks07:10
IncreaseOkay07:11
IncreaseKnow that I can read finally07:11
IncreaseNow*07:11
Increasehttp://pastebin.com/4xjqGaBm07:11
IncreaseI got to make install and it gives me that07:11
MyrttiIncrease: yeah, don't use make install07:12
MyrttiIncrease: sudo apt-get install reaver07:12
MyrttiIncrease: it will ask for a password, type your own. it will not show ** to obfuscate your password either, that's ok07:13
IncreaseOkay Myrtti, I did  that07:13
IncreaseBut I don't have enough disk space07:15
IncreaseYay!07:15
root____3hi07:15
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CiSeRhi07:16
J-BBBhi07:16
J-BBBnobody know about prerouting and ufw?07:16
IncreaseSo after something is installed, where do I go to run it?07:18
alfreddbaz8z: connect from different host..07:20
z8zIncrease: you should find in the start menu or type it from terminal07:20
z8zalfreddba: what do you mean? can you explain from where to where are you trying to connect?07:20
Increasez8z, I type reaver in terminal and it doesn't come up07:21
IncreaseSays it's installed when I run apt-get install reaver07:21
weblifeI just finished a three part tutorial on how to get going with Node.js / MongoDB on Ubuntu and then deploy it to cloud services.  Could I get any interested parties to review it for fixes / ideas on how to improve it?  https://github.com/TheMindCompany/mongonode-app/blob/master/tutorial.pdf07:21
z8ztype re and press tab07:22
z8zIncrease: it will suggest all commands starting with those letters07:22
sinkensabeweblife: glorious07:22
HypnotiX1morning, is there any way to show the programs settings in the unity toolbar all the time, not just on hover07:22
Increasez8z it brings up the folder that was already on the desktop but not a program07:23
weblife@sinkensabe thank you07:24
z8zIncrease: check if you can find into /usr/bin folder07:24
alfreddbaz8z: my virtual server in tokyo..i installed monit in remote server and configured now am trying to connect that from localhost to port 2812 ..07:25
z8zalfreddba: is the service active?07:26
z8zalfreddba: you installed but maybe not started the service daemon07:26
alfreddbaz8z: yes active...07:26
z8zalfreddba: did you check config file?07:27
MyrttiIncrease: so did it install earlier when you did sudo apt-get install reaver? or were you out of disk space?07:27
HypnotiX1How can i show a programs settings all the time on the unity taskbar ?07:27
IncreaseWell, the first time I ran it, it said it would go over, but now when I run it, it says it's installed07:28
IncreaseMyrtti07:28
alfreddbaz8z: ya its status fine in virtual server...but trying from local host its problem....07:28
z8zalfreddba: if doesn't work from local host is a problem07:29
z8zalfreddba: ah wait a minute07:29
z8zalfreddba: are you using virtual server not a cloud?07:29
Increasez8z Yes, it's in the usr/bin folder07:29
alfreddbaz8z: with pleasure?07:29
z8zalfreddba: it can have some kernel issue about pcap package07:30
z8zalfreddba: need some extra parameter of configuration stuff to have it to work07:30
z8zalfreddba: virtual server are not pure emulated standalone machines07:31
alfreddbaz8z: pls guide me...07:31
z8zalfreddba: dunno any extra details on that... maybe someon else knows how to fix07:31
z8zalfreddba: are you sure they don't have any other monitoring system preinstalled?07:32
z8zalfreddba: they usually put preinstalled and configured07:33
z8zIncrease: so means you can just type front terminal and it runs07:33
alfreddbaz8z:   no07:33
alfreddbaz8z:   set httpd port 2812 and07:33
alfreddba   #use address localhost  # only accept connection from localhost07:33
alfreddba   #allow localhost        # allow localhost to connect to the server and07:33
alfreddba   allow admin:monit0123123 # require user 'admin' with password 'monit'07:33
alfreddba    allow @admin  # allow users of group 'monit' to connect (rw)07:33
alfreddba    allow @users readonly  # allow users of group 'users' to connect readonly07:33
FloodBot1alfreddba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:33
Increasez8z what do I type into terminal?07:34
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alfreddbaz8z: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931852/07:34
z8zthe name of the executable file you saw inside /usr/bin folder07:34
Increasez8z it just says reaver07:35
Increasez8z How do I run it? Start reaver?07:35
IncreaseOr cd into it?07:35
z8zalfreddba: check if service port is open from remote using nmap07:36
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z8zIncrease: type "reaver" from terminal07:37
alfreddbaz8z: ya checked 0nly 22 and 80 open how to open port 2812...pls guide me....07:37
z8zalfreddba: very strange that installation process didn't open it07:38
z8zalfreddba: usually it does07:38
Increasez8z Okay, thanks it worked! =D07:38
z8zIncrease: good to know :)07:38
z8zalfreddba: first of all try if it's just about the firewall07:38
z8zalfreddba: just temporary disable it "sudo ufw disable"07:39
Increasez8z Do you sit in IRC a lot? I could see helping noobs out to get repitive. Lol07:39
z8zIncrease: no just sometimes when i'm in very positive mood :D07:40
alfreddbaz8z: actually iptable enabled..service i have checked ufw not working....only iptable installed...so how to enable the port 2812 in iptable...07:40
z8zalfreddba: -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 2812 -j ACCEPT07:42
z8zalfreddba: add this to iptables config file if you are not using ufw07:43
z8zalfreddba: anyway before i would make sure is about FW07:43
z8zalfreddba: just disabling it.... trying to connect and then open the port07:44
babinlonstonMyrtti: Please Confirm Will this Work for me to Open the Specific ports what i have  mentioned here07:44
babinlonstonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5931872/07:44
z8zbabinlonston: that only accept packets when connection have already been established but doesn't open initial stage07:46
babinlonstonoh07:46
z8zbabinlonston: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport HEREYOUPUTPORTNUMBER -j ACCEPT07:47
z8zbabinlonston: this goes after those lines and not before07:47
babinlonstonoh for after i need to use -i ?07:48
babinlonstonsorry -I ?07:48
babinlonstonokok07:48
babinlonstongot it07:49
Increasez8z how long have you been on ubuntu?07:49
IncreaseYou seem to know your shit07:49
FroMasterWhat's it called when you login to the shell and your put into a menu/cli script?07:50
z8zIncrease: just 4 years07:50
z8zIncrease: i'm really not a pro07:50
z8zIncrease: I'm a pro developer07:51
z8zIncrease: not system admin07:51
alfreddbaz8z: i will try with iptable and come back...07:51
z8zalfreddba: are you living in Japan?07:52
Increasez8z What does a developer do? Did you go to school? I'm thinking about getting into the sys admin field07:52
Myrtti!offtopic | friendly reminder07:52
ubottufriendly reminder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:52
z8zIncrease: there are many type of sysadmin but usually they are just pro on setting up systems and knows how to configure everything... also a good security knowledge and networking skills are required07:54
IncreaseRight on, well thanks for the help man. Really saved me from the retardation I was getting. Lol07:55
z8zIncrease: devs just write code  and algorithms07:55
z8zIncrease: np :)07:55
LopeI added this line to my fstab yesterday to auto mount my NTFS partition, then tested it with sudo mount -a, and it mounted perfectly. today after booting up, the dir where its supposed to be mounted is empty, and if I run sudo mount -a I get no errors, and the mount dir is still empty. UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   007:58
llutzLope: "mount | grep stuff"  does it show it as mounted?08:00
Lopeit does show up... /dev/sda4 on /home/bob/stuff type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)08:01
llutzLope: so it is mounted08:01
Lopewell, the folder is empty?08:01
Lopeand theres loads of stuff on that partition08:02
Lopels -lxua just gives me . and ..08:02
llutzLope: ls -ld /home/bob/stuff08:02
DJonesLope: Have you obscured the UUID in the line you pasted above, the "AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF" Looks rather odd for the UUID08:02
Lopeyes :)08:03
llutzLope: df -h /home/bob/stuff08:03
DJonesLope: ok, thought it was just worth asking the question08:03
Lopedrwxr-xr-x 2 bob bob 4096 Jul 30 12:29 /home/bob/stuff08:03
raftI can't type the characters "f" or "b" in my shell. I can type them in programs run from the shell and all other programs, but in the shell nothing happens when I enter them. What could possibly be causing this?08:04
LopeFilesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on | /dev/sda4        30G   12G   17G  42% /home/bob/stuff08:04
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Lopehmmm those numbers are wrong08:04
al_nz1Evening peoples08:04
Lopethe that partition is supposed to be like 500GB or more08:04
llutzLope: check it, "sudo parted -l", check UUID "sudo blkid"08:05
al_nz1how do I check the types of partitions on a non mounted disk? (so I can issue the correct mount command)08:06
llutzal_nz1: sudo parted -l08:07
Lopellutz: the UUID is correct (comparing sudo blkid and cat /etc/fstab )08:07
al_nz1thanks08:08
llutzLope: but "df" shows wrong size? what does parted tell you as size for /dev/sda4?08:08
LopeI noticed the format of the first few UUIDs in my fstab file are different to the one I added.08:08
Lopethe one I added has no punctuation, its all uppercase hexadecimal.08:08
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llutzLope: use UUIDs given by blkid to be sure08:09
Lopethe ones that were generated by my install are lowercase, longer and have a few hyphens in them08:09
Lopellutz: yes using the one exactly given by blkid08:09
Lopedo I not need quotes around it? (i have no quotes)08:09
llutzLope: no08:09
Lopeits just UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   008:10
llutzLope: looks fine (just umask=003 is odd, but...)08:10
Lopeparted -l says its 654GB08:10
Lopewhats umask? I copied it off an ubuntu answers webpage.08:11
LopeI just changed the uid and gid to equal the values given by the 'id08:11
Lope' command08:11
Lopeand of course the UUID and mount dir08:11
llutzLope: your fstab-line contains "umask=003", that will cause the mount to be rwxrwxr-- (missing x for "o"), that's a bit... unusual08:11
al_nz1and, please, whats the best way to cp a bunch of data from one nix system to another? sftp or something?08:11
Lopellutz: is it possible that ubuntu is auto mounting my hard drive at bootup and there is a conflict?08:12
al_nz1I really want to copy the /mnt/disk/Baker to new folder08:12
Lopewhats o?08:12
llutzLope: "others"08:13
Lopewhat umask do you recommend?08:13
llutzLope: "0002", depends on the usage (more users than just you? etc.pp)08:13
Lopejust me. I want to be able to execute shell scripts etc on the partition?08:14
llutzLope: if it is an internal drive, it shouldn't be mounted by the system. or is that a wubi-installation? there it might be different, i don't know08:14
babinlonstonWill This allow the incoming and out coming for Specified Ports and how can i block all other requests in Single line http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931943/08:14
Lopeits a huge data partition. I'm moving over from windows.08:14
LopeWell, what happens is when I boot up its not automatically mounted. but its shown in the file manager. if I click on the drive label, then it mounts.08:15
Lopethe reason I added it to my fstab is I want it to auto-mount08:15
Lopewithout me having to go into the file manager to open it and make it mount that way.08:16
Lopeit is an internal drive.08:16
Supaplexif a download url (2.2gb) has no torrent, can I create a torrent using a webseed, while not yet having the file locally? This wireless isp is the suck, but I have as many PCs for no extra cost. 1 download = 0.7mbit, but if I can bootstrap that, then I can fetch it with aria2c and local peer discovery just fine (it's worked for linux DVD torrents before etc).08:17
llutzLope: well, it is mounted, as "mount" stated. but the difference in sizes is odd... you'd perform a fs-check in windows, then try again08:17
Lopehmm08:17
Lopecan I unmount, then re-mount?08:18
Lopewhat is the command for that?08:18
llutzsudo umount /home/bob/stuff08:18
llutzsudo mount /home/bob/stuff08:18
SupaplexLope: llutz assumes it's in your fstab (with all the right paramaters)08:18
llutzSupaplex: which he has, thats part of the problem08:19
Supaplexk. tiny screen here :) (scrollback's a pain)08:19
SupaplexLope: sounds like noauto is in the fstab. remove it to mount at boot time.08:20
llutz UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs08:21
llutz               rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   008:21
llutzSupaplex: ^^ that#s his fstab entry08:21
LopeSupaplex: it does have the flag auto. it does not have noauto08:22
llutz"auto" is default, you don't really need it. just make sure not to have "noauto" :) Lope08:23
Lopeits just (UUID obfuscated, gid and uid are the same as what 'id' reports)   UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   008:23
Lopehow can I unmount it and then re-mount it?08:23
llutzsudo umount /home/bob/stuff Lope08:23
llutzsudo mount /home/bob/stuff Lope08:23
SupaplexI see that. I'd have to unravel the init.d scripts - maybe he needs a variant of ntfs, but if ntfs alone works (or something from /proc/filesystems is missing a kernel module), or it's really fuse related. Dunno.08:23
Lopeyou see, yesterday I added that line to my fstab, then ran sudo mount -a. and it mounted perfectly. today I booted up, and it says its mounted, but reported size is wrong, and the mount dir is empty.08:24
Lopeweird ok so I tried sudo umount /home/bob/stuff and it said its not mounted08:26
SupaplexLope: anything relevant in dmesg or /var/log/* ?  Was the filesystem cleanly unmounted? (may need either fsck, or real windows chkdsk) - throw anything interesting from dmesg/logs in a pastebin08:26
Bisu[Shield]damn, how drunk am I? jpg images animate? https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg08:26
Lopeso I ran sudo mount -a AGAIN. and it didn't give errors (it never has) now its mounted perfectly. really weird08:26
LopeShould I reboot and see what happens again?08:26
MyrttiBisu[Shield]: myrtti@kengu:~$ file Downloads/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg08:27
MyrttiDownloads/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg: GIF image data, version 89a, 247 x 25408:27
Bisu[Shield]oh so I am not drunk...08:27
alfreddbaz8z: i modified iptable...still unable to connect...from local browser...08:28
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Bisu[Shield]Myrtti you saved my life08:28
SupaplexBisu[Shield]: there is an unoffical jpeg animation spec - but mjpeg is generally the lazy route.08:28
Bisu[Shield]aaaaahh08:28
LopeSupaplex: the only interesting thing in /var/log/dmesg is: [    x.xxxxxxx]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 < sda4 >08:29
Cpt_Zyphhey guys i have tried it via virtual machine but that is not a strong test.. im wonder if the new search features on the uniity tray are really nice.. i have had some thoughts of switching from F19 over .. but dont known anyone that uses Ubuntu much at all08:29
Lopedunno why it has lt and gt around it.08:29
Lopeokay I'll reboot and see what happens.08:30
Linux_noobokay, I've rebooted and I have the same situation as before. the mount dir is emtpy.08:33
Linux_noobokay, I ran sudo mount -a (no errors) but its not mounted.08:33
Linux_noobhmmm08:35
Linux_noobhow do I figure out whats wrong :/08:35
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Lopehehe, me again.08:36
llutzLope: what kind of partition is /dev/sda4, is it a normal primary or an extended? (sudo parted -l    should tell you)08:38
Lopesudo mount -l shows /dev/sda5 on /home/bob/stuff type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) [Stuff]08:38
Lopeerm, i meant sda408:39
Lopewhats up with default_permissions ?08:39
Lopeokay, well... its actually sda5 haha. i was obfuscating it. (since I'm a linux noob I dunno how much info is too much to share :) )08:40
Lopeits in some kind of extended partition08:40
LopeI'll show a printout08:40
llutzLope: stop obfuscating stuff, it makes helping harder08:41
ballockI need to trick apt/dpkg into thinking that already-installed package X provides package Y (for testing), so I modified /var/lib/dpkg/status, but it seems apt-get is still trying to install package Y. Is there another cache I need to update for apt?08:41
LopeSorry08:41
Lopemy partition listing http://pastebin.com/3MtCG9Lj08:42
Lopeits the sda5 I want to mount.08:43
llutzLope: "sudo blkid /dev/sda5"    is that the UUID your /etc/fstab entry contains?08:44
Lopeyes 100% exactly08:44
ikoniaballock: you can't do that08:44
ikoniaballock: nor should you do that08:44
ikoniaballock: you should match dependencies correctly08:45
ballockI know I should not do that08:45
TC|LaptopHeh, not a common IRCer, but thought this might be the best place to ask: has anyone noticed this? http://www.instantasp.co.uk/Products/Influx/08:45
ballockbut I don't want to rebuild the package with correct dependencies to verify this on my system08:45
TC|LaptopThat logo looks *awfully* familiar...08:45
Lopeperhaps I should use options different to my current options? UUID=ABCDEF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   008:46
ballockikonia: is there another database that gets considered for dpkg status by apt?08:46
llutz!ntfs | Lope08:46
ubottuLope: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE08:46
TC|LaptopDoes anyone here know who I should flick this off to? It looks mighty suspicously like trademark infringement (assuming the Ubuntu logo is in fact trademarked)08:46
llutz!ntfs-3g | Lope    these links should give you the options you need08:47
ubottuLope    these links should give you the options you need: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions08:47
ikoniaballock: the internal binary one08:47
ikoniaTC|Laptop: no-one, don't worry about it08:47
ballockI thought so, but I couldn't find it in /var/lib/apt08:47
ballockIs there a way to regenerate it?08:47
ikoniaballock: only with "factual" data08:47
ballockwhere is it?08:48
TC|Laptop*nodnod* All good, if it's not an issue then there's no worries, thought I should check anyway. Thanks for the heads up :)08:48
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ikoniaballock: it's /var/lib/dpkg - somewhere like that, I don't remember off the top of my head08:48
ballockikonia: can't find it there, there's just the list of available packages08:49
ballockno binary files, either08:49
ikoniaballock: it is around08:50
ikoniabut you can't modify it08:50
SupaplexLope: that's a good sign. sda ... is partition detection.08:50
ballockTell me a reason I should not claim oracle-java7-jre provides sun-java6-jre in my current system.08:51
ikoniabecause it doesn't08:51
Lopei see ntfs-3g mentioned a lot, as being a requirement for RW. I've just got ntfs in my fstab. should I change it to ntfs-3g?08:52
ballockOk, tell me a reason I should modify the jxplorer package to claim it also works with oracle-java7 without knowing it works there?08:52
LopeI'll try this example given in the ubuntu help page 'MountingWindowsPartitions': UUID=519CB82E5888AD0F  /media/Data  ntfs-3g  defaults,windows_names,locale=en_US.utf8  0 008:52
ikoniaballock: it's up to you, do what you want08:52
ballockof course, I just wanted to know if it's my bad or if there is a binary db created of the status file, as I couldn't find it.08:53
thunder1212hi08:53
ballockthanks for that, though08:53
ikoniaballock: there is a binary file / db08:53
ballockI'll try strace on apt-get to find it08:53
LopeI see the ubuntu help page doesn't specify a uid or gid. does that mean it will be systemwide08:54
thunder1212holstein: there is a libpeerconnection.log file automatically created in my home directory why?08:54
jony_easyriderwhich is faster on an old PC: Ubuntu 10.04 or Lubuntu 12.04?08:56
thunder1212libpeerconnection.log08:56
thunder1212jony_easyrider: lubuntu12.0408:56
Lopesudo mount -l is showing that its mounted. but the folder is empty. maybe the NTFS partition is damaged.08:57
Lopeis the linux NTFS driver a bit dodgy? is it recommended to write to a NTFS partition?08:57
ikoniaLope: hang on08:57
ikoniaLope: can you pastebin the output of the command "mount" please into a pastebin08:57
Noskcajjony_easyrider, Lubuntu 13.04 is my recommendation08:58
Loperecently I used a VM from linux that was stored in a NTFS. the NTFS partition developed errors. next time I booted windows it found problems and deleted some of the VM files, moving them into a folder called found.00008:58
thunder1212libpeerconnection.log created in home why?08:58
Lopesure08:58
Noskcaj10.04 isn't supported and it's very old, lubuntu didn't make an LTS in 12.0408:59
llutzthunder1212: chrome/chromium08:59
thunder1212llutz: ok thnx :)08:59
ikonia10.04 still has server support08:59
Lopemount: http://pastebin.com/taRszb9i parted: http://pastebin.com/3MtCG9Lj09:00
thunder1212llutz: i am using ubuntu 12.04 and i have disabled all updates but if i want to update firefox then what to do?09:01
Lopethunder1212: sudo apt-get update09:01
llutzthunder1212: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox09:02
Lopethen you need to upgrade, specifically the firefox package, somehow09:02
ikoniaLope: ok, so that ntfs partition is mounted using "fuser" which is the "ntfs-3g" component you whre talking about09:02
thunder1212Lope: but i do not want to update my whole system09:02
thunder1212llutz: ok got it09:02
ikoniaLope: so if you go into /home/bob/stuff is that directory empty ?09:02
llutzthunder1212: that will update the database and update firefox if there is an update09:02
Lopethunder1212: update doesn't update any programs, just your apt-database of what is available.09:03
thunder1212Lope: ok thnx:)09:03
Lopesudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade all your programs :)09:03
Lopeyes its empty09:03
Lope(ikonia)09:04
ikoniaLope: ok, so that's as "honest" as it gets09:04
Lopebut whats weird is yesterday it mounted fine, and earlier in this channel today after mounting and dismounting (with varied commands) it eventually mounted perfectly.09:05
ikoniaLope: it's mounted fine now09:05
Lopewhats that command where you can see how much free space on your mounts?09:05
Lopethen fine ain't good enough :p09:05
Lopecos I can't see the hundreds of GB of dirs and files :)09:06
Lopeperhaps I need to boot windows again for a NTFS scan.09:06
Lopegoing forward am I going to have endless hassles using a NTFS partition for storing the bulk of my data?09:06
ikoniaLope: you should verify the partition within windows if possible.09:06
Lopeshould I just copy the data off and format that partition as EXTx?09:07
LopeI've pretty much had enough of windows.09:07
ikoniaLope: the ntfs kernel module is "usable" and quite mature, now so you should not have problems09:07
shuxiongHi, is there any way to get debian package source in Ubuntu?09:07
Lopebut I've not been able to completely get my dev environment sorted on linux yet. so I've not been able to work for the last 2 days.09:07
llutzLope: less hassle, if you don't want to access the data from anythin != linux09:07
shuxiongI've added debian source repository in /etc/apt/source.list.09:08
Lopeokay I'll reboot into windows and see what windows says.09:08
shuxiongand using apt-get source packageName -t unstable, but09:08
shuxiongThe value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources09:08
LopeI don't think using NTFS partition is very error free so far. within a handfull of mounts I've had at least 1 case of NTFS corruption.09:09
HypnotiX1anyone using sublime text here and can help me out for a second please?09:09
Lopeokay. bbiaw. thank you for your help awesome people!09:09
Lopehaha, pity I can't connect that partition to a windows VM and scan it that way :)09:09
Lopeif it was USB I could.09:09
* Lope puts on a rubber suit to go into windows09:10
superjoehello. I played a game on wine and now I can no longer hear audio on my system09:10
superjoehow can I troubleshoot?09:10
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kimirI am trying to send a patch using git imap-send on ubuntu 13.04 and I get error "SSL requested but SSL support not compiled in". Is there a git package WITH ssl?09:13
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ballockikonia: FYI the binary DB is in /var/cache/apt, but it's not considered authoritative, it's regenerated on each apt-get run (or so it seems); in my case it was not enough to change Provides: in /var/lib/dpkg/status, I needed to change the package version there, too. For some reason apt-get treats available packages more authoritatively than the status file.09:16
ikoniaballock: that seems very odd, but worth knowing, thank you09:17
PeterGriffinPostfix is sending to some misstyped version of my mail address, probably from a past failed configuration, even if I don't type a recipient address. When it happens it I get error report from the mail server thet the recipient does not exist.09:17
ballockikonia: and jxplorer seems to work with Oracle's Java7, so perhaps we should update jxplorer package with that data09:17
ikoniaballock: you can request a change to the package via launchpad.net09:18
ikoniaPeterGriffin: postfix doesn't send mail addresses, the mail client does09:18
PeterGriffinikonia: Do you mean I have to check the config of mutt?09:19
ikoniaPeterGriffin: if that's what's sending the mail, yes09:19
ballockikonia: can do, though the package is in universe, so I guess I should head to Debian guys?09:19
ikoniaballock: depends if it's just a clean port from debian to ubuntu or if ubuntu guys rebuild it09:20
ikoniaballock: maybe worth to do it via launchpad and feed back to ubuntu->debian in the correct order09:20
ikoniarather than jumping straight to upstream09:20
Tee_Peehello09:23
Tee_Peequick question - I am having issues with the ssh agent. ssh-add -l gives me "the agent has no identities"09:23
Tee_PeeHow can I find / load the ssh keys into it?09:24
Tee_Peefresh install of ubuntu 13.0409:24
nantoui extracted video files from an iso copy. I can access the files and play em ,but they all have a lock on them. what does that mean?09:25
elvis_hi09:28
krzhi09:28
elvis_i need  a help09:28
krzis it normal that postgres doesnt start automatically when i boot my machine?09:29
elvis_i have just installed wicd09:29
krzeverytime i boot i need to do sudo service postgres restart, just to get it up and running09:29
elvis_and when i start wicd09:29
mudkip908nantou: It means they're readonly.09:29
elvis_i must write a password09:30
nantoumudkip908, so I cant copy em? mux em?09:30
elvis_what password i'll write09:30
jony_easyriderNoskcaj, lubuntu 13.04 is at the final state or only the 12.04 is?09:30
mudkip908nantou: You can copy them, but you cant edit them.09:30
rhythmxhttp://codepad.org/wOxywDD3 -- having trouble linking this in ubuntu, undefined reference to SHA512_Init09:30
mudkip908nantou: right click on one of the files and go to Properties, then Permissions.09:30
rhythmxreadelf -s clearly shows that the symbol is in libcrypto09:30
elvis_does anyone help me09:31
rhythmxlinks in centos and arch, can't figure out why not in ubuntu09:31
Noskcajjony_easyrider, Both are released, but only part of 12.04 is supported, and it's older09:31
krzanyone?09:31
jony_easyriderNoskcaj, so the 13.04 is fully functional and not is a beta?09:31
mudkip908rhythmx: Are you passing "-llibcrypto" to gcc?09:32
rhythmxmudkip908: -lcrypto, yeah09:32
elvis_ i have a problem with wicd09:32
Noskcajjony_easyrider, It's fully funtional. 13.04 means it was released in april09:32
jony_easyriderwhere can I find the transmission's executable to show it to the browser to "open with"?09:33
mudkip908rhythmx:  "openssl/sha.h: No such file or directory" Maybe you're missing a package?09:33
rhythmxthats in libssl-dev09:33
nantouow ow, woww mudkip908 thanks!09:33
rhythmxit compiles fine, just errors on linking09:34
rhythmxit finds libcrypto.so just fine, and I can see that the SHA512 symbols are in that library via readelf09:34
rhythmxbut something about the environment is different09:34
hulupvl1: helo09:34
jony_easyriderNoskcaj, I asking this 'cause I used ubuntu 13.04, but it had some bugs and that was not an LTS and I gone back to 12.0409:34
mudkip908rhythmx: locate libcrypto.so and paste the output09:35
hulupvl1: the libgconf-2-4 gconf_client_commit_change_set return 0 means what09:36
dhaval2712Hey can anybody help me install Barry, the Blackberry manager?09:37
ZIPYis it possible to open a luksencrypted partition in windows if its ntfs?09:37
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rhythmxmudkip908: http://codepad.org/Wrqfrm8f09:37
rhythmxmudkip908: locate command is in the middle there09:37
mudkip908rhythmx: I have no idea why it doesn't link. Maybe try linking libcrypto.so to libcrypto.so.1.0.0 as a last resort09:39
magdurguys i have a problem can anyone help me ?09:39
mudkip908(i mea symlink)09:40
rhythmxmudkip908: yeah I tried that too :/ thanks for looking into it though09:40
Noskcaj!ask | magdur09:41
ubottumagdur: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:41
magdurmy computer warm too much09:42
nantoucan I change the permission settings for several files at the same time?09:42
mudkip908nantou: yes09:42
nekdohello! how to i have to change system domain name on server, because i have some troubles with "recieved" in sendmail?09:43
nantoumudkip908, must it be terminal or is it enough with selecting the files in the GUI and right clicking em?09:43
mudkip908nantou: GUI works09:43
nantouok09:43
anekshey guys, does anyone know why vsftpd would give me this error message when I try to start it? http://pastebin.com/1Hp3N6ip09:43
flipper88_flNice to see ubuntu forums up again!09:44
dhaval2712What happened anyway?09:44
Priceyaneks: use sudo09:45
magdurmy computer warm too much, what can i do09:46
anekssuch an idiot :) thanks Pricey09:46
Priceyaneks: We all do it!09:46
nekdohow do i have to change system domain name (i have bought domain, but what to do now) on server?09:47
skjoedtHi, I installed emesene last night as well as made an account for google talk in empathy. Then I uninstalled emesene but now I am getting gnome keyring prompts on system startup. There is nothing of such in my startup application preferences. How do I undo it?09:50
skjoedtWhen I search google people are often referring to seahorse, but I can't find a way to disable it there.09:51
sharpshooternekdo:  check this http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_domainname.htm09:51
somsipmagdur: did you try lm-sensors as was suggested some hours ago?09:52
xeonixAny forum admin here?09:52
rhythmxmudkip908: fwiw, i just had to put -lcrypto after the .c file that needed it. never knew the option order mattered09:52
somsipxeonix: there will be, but #ubuntu-ops might be somewhere to ask depending on your query09:52
mudkip908rhythmx: wat09:52
SuperLagrhythmx: I think you might have better luck in #ubuntu-forums (I think that's the name of the channel)09:52
mudkip908rhythmx: Why would that make a difference?09:52
SuperLagrhythmx: sorry, that was meant for xeonix09:53
rhythmxSuperLag: problem solved, just thought i'd update09:53
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nekdosharpshooter i thought hostname... when i send mail with sendmail, I always get hostname on Recieved (when looking to email source) which I would like to change to something other, because it's annoying to send folks server info.09:54
rhythmxmudkip908: no idea why, never seen that before09:55
huluhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5932225/09:56
huluwho can help me09:56
huluThe gnome-terminal perference dialog is gray09:57
huluI'm using 13.0409:57
magdursomsip: actuaaly i try it but i take an error09:57
somsipmagdur: and what is the error?09:57
magdurlm-sensors09:59
magdurProcessing triggers for ureadahead ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Setting up lm-sensors (1:3.3.1-2ubuntu2) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension09:59
somsipmagdur: what version of ubuntu?10:01
magdur@somsip 12.1010:02
krzhi10:04
krzwhere do i find the logs for postgres? i need to know what is causing pgsql not to start when my OS boots10:04
somsipmagdur: well, that's justa warning and there are workarounds that can be found by searching (http://is.gd/o7y30z). So did lm-sensors install in the end?10:04
somsipkrz: Try /var/log/postgres/ (guess)10:04
magdursomsip yes it was and10:06
BrixSatHello how do i destroy logic volumes?10:08
FourFireHello10:08
BrixSati want to wipe all logic volumes and things shown by pvscan and lvdisplay10:08
FourFirewhen I run "sudo -s" in the terminal on 12.04 and am instructed to input my password the terminal refuses all input (I can't type anything)10:09
mudkip908FourFire: You can type. It just doesn't show the letters, that's a security measure.10:10
k1l_FourFire: it just doesnt show the password or *******. just type your password and press enter10:10
FourFireoh10:10
FourFirethanks :D10:11
poppyanyone know a command to make a launcher icon bounce?10:12
poppyi know about notify-send, but not how to make an icon bounce or wiggle10:13
jago25_98Do you find after a couple of apt-get upgrade(s) things start breaking?10:14
xeonixMay I get some help with my acer 5755G overheating issue, tired of searching for a solution over google.10:20
HypnotiX1which is better to use photoshop, VM or wine ?10:22
mudkip908CS2 works well in wine10:23
mudkip908newer versions not so much10:23
lunarjarWWhich company makes the best linux compatible laptops that you can buy in UK?(except lenovo)10:23
kwtmHow do I find which package a given file/program is in?  e.g. if I want to run Program1, do I install PackageOfProgramsA, or PackageOfProgramsB, etc.?  (I already know how to use "apt-file list pkgname" if I already know the package name, but I'm trying to find the package name, which is likely not yet installed)10:23
poppyfound my answer here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI10:23
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Dark_lightdoes the 13.10 alpha already run on mir ?10:30
guest8879Hello. Is there a way to delete a UbuntuForums.org account created before the recent hackers attack, without creating a new account on UbuntuOne as requested by the new login procedure? I didn't find contact information on UbuntuForums.org and don't want to create a new account when I want to delete the old one. Thank you.10:31
k1l_guest8879: ask in #ubuntuforums10:32
guest8879(the creation of a new account would be to post this question there, and I want to avoid it)10:32
guest8879thanks a lot k1l_10:33
guest8879have a nice day.10:33
k1l_you too10:33
guest8879I already entered #ubuntuforums before #ubuntu but the header says that it's not for support10:35
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guest8879and "For username issues, post in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=123" but it requires an account :-)10:36
jribguest8879: not for ubuntu support, but you should discuss forum related things there10:38
guest8879Got it. I'll do it, thanks.10:39
guest8879jrib: Have a nice day.10:39
caopengfeihi!10:41
dongyuehello10:42
caopengfeiis there somepeople has the local ip number?10:43
arashhi , I'd like to install a .run file , how can I do It ?10:46
somsiparash: chmod +x file.run; ./file.run (usually)10:46
AschHello. What's the ideal size for a /boot partition?10:47
arashthanks10:47
arashworked10:47
dongyue150M10:47
arashforgot to make It executable10:48
Aschdongyue: mine is 100Mb big. I can boot, but I'm unable to update kernellinux-headers and other packages. Would a simple resize do the trick?10:49
somsipAsch: resize or delete unused, old kernels10:49
Aschsomsip: Can I just clean the partition and run software updater?10:50
Aschsomsip: Is there a way to make Ubuntu clean old kernels automatically?10:50
somsipAsch: clean? You can use the package manager to delete old, unused kernels, but if you go in and just delete stuff, expect problems10:50
Aschsomsip:10:51
Aschsomsip: ok, ty10:51
PeterGriffinWhat is the best practice for auto-mount network partition when the host is online?10:51
somsipAsch: there are various methods to remove old kernels. Eg: http://is.gd/HKIk7Y and http://is.gd/dgb9lA10:51
somsipAsch: you should understand what you are doing and not just blindly follow these instructions to make sure you don't render your system unusuable10:52
clientHello10:56
joako537Hi10:56
UbuPhilluphi10:56
clientCan you tell me how to bypass the source code of a website that requires a password? I downloaded all the files, but when I view the source code, it redirects me to their www10:57
Dr_willis'view' the source code in a text editor. not your browser perhaps10:58
Dr_willisthen edit it.10:58
mudkip908client: when you try to view the source code of the website, or the files?10:59
clientI used a tool called webhttrack to download the source code of the site, but the site is password protected, although it looks like the source code is showing the site11:00
bobsleehow can i mount 9p ?11:00
BluesKajHiyas all11:00
mudkip908client: Upload the index.html to a pastebin11:00
somsipclient: the tool you use may allow you to add the HTTP basic auth details in the URL. Eg: http://user:password@www.example.com11:01
Dr_willisbobslee,  and a '9p' is what?11:02
mudkip908Dr_willis: probably a Bell Plan9 partition11:03
bobsleeDr_willis:  a plan9 (bell labs) filesystem11:03
Dr_willissee if the kernel supports the filesystem, man mount may mention it also.11:03
Supaplexhah. everytime the wife wants me to install something on the w7 tablet, I tell her try linux. And, this is why :D https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9C_aaCX9CyJMklhWGt3dTVmczQ/edit?usp=sharing11:03
bobsleei'm trying.. we'll see11:03
Dr_willisused to be come /proc/fileystems (i think?) file that listed all supported filesystems by the kernel11:03
clientI'm not sure which index.html to pastebin. There is 1 for the web app itself and another 111:04
mudkip908client: Both of them11:04
Dr_willisclient,  so pastebin themboth? not like they charge :P11:04
bobsleeDr_willis: thanx. there's no 9p in it.. hold on11:04
Dr_willisbobslee,  or linux dosent call it '9p'11:04
bobsleeDr_willis: maybe ninep :s lol11:05
mudkip908bobslee: look into this: http://v9fs.sourceforge.net/11:05
Dr_willisA kernel client driver for Linux is part of the v9fs project.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9P11:06
mudkip908Looks like its only for 2.6 though11:06
clientHere is the source code for the actual app itself: http://pastebin.com/kjU2HmDi11:07
Lunar_LanderUhi, I got the following problem on a new 12.04 ubuntu install: when I click on Suspend in the Gear Menu, the PC sometimes starts 10 minutes or so later without me doing anything, any ideas about this?11:09
Lunar_LanderUthe syslog doesn't have anything that could help as far as I see it11:09
Lunar_LanderU(also I am at work now)11:09
mudkip908client: You are trying to mirror a webapp.11:10
Dr_willisuse hibernate instead of suspend perhaps.  - could be its getting some sort of key click, or mouse move thats unsuspending it. (i dont use either one)11:10
mudkip908That won't really work11:10
clientYes mudkip90811:10
clientWhy not?11:10
Lunar_LanderUthere is no hibernate in 12.04 anymore11:10
Dr_willisLunar_LanderU,  it can be enabled.11:10
Lunar_LanderUah11:10
mudkip908If it was only clientside (javascript) then it would be possible11:10
Dr_willisyou need a swap partion = ram+a bit more.11:11
Lunar_LanderUalso, the strange thing is, that it turns on when I am lying in bed, 3 m away from the system11:11
Lunar_LanderUyeah I got a 2 GB swap which the installer made11:11
mudkip908However it also uses serverside scripts, which you can't mirror11:11
clientmudkip908 it looks like it does mostly run client-side11:11
clientthey have this giant client-side .js file11:11
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Twenty-threehi guys, i did a software update yesterday, i am not entirely sure what was updated but it was listed as "ubuntu base" and i was requested to reboot for this update, after rebooting the GUI wouldn't load any more if i did ctrl+alt+F1 i got to the terminal, i uninstalled Nvidia drivers and then reinstalled them, i can get to the GUI now but i only get to see icons, there is no launch bar or...11:12
Twenty-three...the bar at the top, not sure what the problem might be, any clues?11:12
Lunar_LanderUDr_willis: the only thing that I can imagine besides that is when reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/158532/xubuntu-12-04-restarts-after-suspend-only-from-my-account , that my screen is set to go black after 15 minutes. on my old machine I used to set that to 1 h11:13
Lunar_LanderUbut I will try to enable hibernate mode11:13
mudkip908client: When you open the index.html it just takes you back to the login page?11:13
Dr_willisLunar_LanderU,  i dont use either one. I got a SSD hd - i can boot in like 15 sec. so dont see much point in hibernate or suspend11:13
Lunar_LanderUyeah11:14
clientyes it does. But from what I see on the actual code itself, all the layouts, etc. is there. I just need to bypass the login page @ mudkip90811:14
Lunar_LanderUin my case it is a question of closing Firefox and Pidgin and so on and then shutting down11:14
Lunar_LanderUI got a normal HDD but that is also pretty fast, so I probably also would do a normal shutdown now11:14
mudkip908client: What happens when you load it with javascript disabled?11:15
Lunar_LanderUwas just wondering why it happened, the old box could sit a whole day in suspend11:15
clientHow do I do that? mudkip90811:15
mudkip908client: What browser are you using?11:15
clientfirefox11:16
client@mudkip90811:16
mudkip908client: go to Preferences->Content and untick Enable JavaScript11:16
angshow can I watch only one process on top?11:17
clientit gives a blank page @ mudkip90811:17
angstop tool11:18
Dr_willisangs,  htop may have more features. its a hyped up top.11:18
angsthanks11:18
clientboth the index.html files give blank pages11:18
mudkip908client: Can you zip up everything you mirrored and upload it somewhere?11:18
Lunar_LanderUthanks Dr_willis !11:21
Lunar_LanderU:)11:21
clientok give me 2 seconds mudkip90811:22
Twenty-threehi guys, i did a software update yesterday, i am not entirely sure what was updated but it was listed as "ubuntu base" and i was requested to reboot for this update, after rebooting the GUI wouldn't load any more if i did ctrl+alt+F1 i got to the terminal, i uninstalled Nvidia drivers and then reinstalled them, i can get to the GUI now but i only get to see icons, there is no launch bar or...11:26
Twenty-three...the bar at the top, not sure what the problem might be, any clues?11:26
Dr_willis!info ubuntu-base11:26
ubottuPackage ubuntu-base does not exist in raring11:26
Dr_willismost likely it was a kernel update.  you could tyr selecting some of the older kernels from the grub menu11:27
Dr_willisalso test with a newly made user. see if they have the same issue.11:27
Twenty-threeDr_willis: i'll give it a go, brb11:28
Twenty-threeDr_willis: btw, thanks :)11:28
alfreddbaz8z:thanks for ur help finally completed.....11:30
bobsleeDr_willis: 9p (module) is supplied by linux-image-extra-x.x.x-generic (strange name)... after loading, it's listed under /proc/filesystems.11:31
TantorDoes someone know where I can find the log files of bind?11:42
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reisioTantor: probably in /var/log/11:42
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TantorUnfortunately not in /var/log11:44
Guest39380ubuntu edge11:44
DJones!edge | Guest3938011:45
ubottuGuest39380: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch11:45
HypnotiX1how do i copy files from linux to my virtual machine disk ?11:46
HypnotiX1like my photoshop kit :)11:47
reisioHypnotiX1: which virtual machine system?11:47
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HypnotiX1VirtualBox11:47
reisioHypnotiX1: http://wvarner.blogspot.com/2008/05/installing-virtualbox-guest-additions.html11:48
HypnotiX1the one from the software center11:48
reisioHypnotiX1: what's the host OS?11:48
reisiooh nevermind :)11:48
reisioyeah virtualbox's shared folder stuff is simplest11:48
HypnotiX1windows711:48
magdurhow can i learn to my computers working time ?11:48
reisioHypnotiX1: host is the one the VM runs on11:48
reisionot the one the OS runs in11:49
HypnotiX1sry :)11:49
reisiohost = on, guest = in11:49
HypnotiX1ubuntu 13.0411:49
Guest39380cant you access the linux file tree from the virtual machine and then copy paste?11:49
reisioyeah sorry I already knew the answer just forgot :p11:49
reisiomagdur: pardon?11:49
willsmii2i HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS11:49
reisiowillsmii2i: :)11:49
willsmii2i HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS11:49
willsmii2i HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS11:49
DJoneswillsmii2i: Stop that11:49
willsmii2i HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS11:49
reisiowillsmii2i: #hijos :)11:49
willsmii2i HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS11:49
FloodBot1willsmii2i: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:49
karolyHey11:49
reisioHypnotiX1: so wow I got it backwards twice11:50
magdurreisio özür dilerim pek soramadım ama ne bilgisayarımın ne zaman çalışmağa başladığını nasıl öğrenebilirim ?11:50
reisioHypnotiX1: right, install guest additions, and go to the VM settings and set up a shared folder11:50
HypnotiX1i set a shared folder there11:50
reisioHypnotiX1: and check the box that says mount a utomatically11:50
HypnotiX1but i dont see it in windows11:50
karolySomeone is using Xubuntu 13.10 ??11:50
reisioHypnotiX1: and it should just show up when you open windows explorer, down after C:11:50
reisioHypnotiX1: you check the box?11:50
reisiokaroly: someone is11:51
HypnotiX1yes11:51
HypnotiX1its auto mounted11:51
reisiomagdur: the age of your installation?11:51
reisioHypnotiX1: :)11:51
magdur12.0411:51
reisiomagdur: I don't know what you're asking11:51
magdurmy computer when start working ?11:52
cheesecakeshow do i share display=:1 with a windows machine over the network?11:52
reisiomagdur: that doesn't make any sense11:52
karolyIs normal that i can't set the audio level with the plugin in the bar on Xubuntu 13.10 ?? i can only set the volume with the keyboard11:52
reisiomagdur: are you asking when you installed the OS?11:52
reisiokaroly: may just be misconfigured11:52
cheesecakesthere are three FloodBot111:52
magdurno how many time is it work?11:52
cheesecakes:/11:52
karolyAnd how can i configurate it properly?11:53
reisiomagdur: is it work?11:53
HypnotiX1reisio: so what else can i do?11:53
cheesecakesi am using 13.0411:53
reisiokaroly: actually I think I encountered that bug11:53
reisiokaroly: try opening 'alsamixer' in a terminal, and using pgup/dn to change the level of Master11:53
karolySo it's normal and it will be fixed ??11:53
reisiokaroly: it may just magically start working afterwards11:53
magdurcomputer running ?11:53
reisioHypnotiX1: hrmm?11:53
reisiomagdur: rephrase your question, it makes no sense11:54
KaitoKidgood day guys, I have a problem with my Alt & Ctrl key. When I press once the Alt key I can able to move the window without holding it and I have to press it again to deactivate it just the same the Ctrl key but instead of moving the window it adjust the zoom level.11:54
reisiomagdur: "uptime"?11:54
KaitoKidBTW, I'm using Ubuntu 13.0411:54
HypnotiX1i set a shared folder from the VB, with auto mount on but i dont see it in windows11:54
karolyNo reisio it doesn't work :( i can change the volume but it doesn't work...11:54
reisioKaitoKid: one of your ctrl/alt/shift/windows/mouse buttons are stuck, give them all a good smack11:54
reisioHypnotiX1: open my computer11:55
reisioHypnotiX1: it'll be nearer the end11:55
magdurdefinitely11:55
reisioHypnotiX1: and you have to install guest additions first11:55
KaitoKidreisio: But I tried it with windows and it's fine11:55
reisiokaroly: with alsamixer?11:55
KaitoKidreisio: I'm only having a problem with Ubuntu :/11:55
reisioKaitoKid: tried what?11:55
karolyyep, i change the master volume and the "bubble" in the top right corner appears and everithing but the plugin in the bar still had the icon for "muted"11:56
reisioKaitoKid: does your keyboard have a function lock?11:56
KaitoKidreisio: Here's the scenario. When I press Alt key once, the move window function activates without holding the Alt key. and to deactivate the move window I have to press Alt key again11:56
KaitoKidreisio: Like a caps lock, to be similar11:56
magdurwhen is my computers uptime ?11:57
reisioKaitoKid: maybe you have accidentally enabled sticky keys or something11:57
reisiomagdur: open a terminal, type 'uptime', then ENTER11:57
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reisiokaroly: so the icon is just misrepresentative?11:58
reisio'cause that isn't exactly what you said earlier :)11:58
karolyExatly, but i can still set the volume with the keyboard buttons V+ & V- . Not only the icon but the entire plugin, when i click on it nothing appears but a little white square11:59
magdurthank to reisio12:00
reisiokaroly: maybe ask #xubuntu12:00
karoly.....excuse me.. how?? xD12:00
HypnotiX1reisio:  sry im lost :) ubuntu is my host, windows 7 is my guest12:00
reisiokaroly: /join #xubuntu12:00
HypnotiX1i shared the folder rebooted and yeah nothing12:01
pvl1 /close12:01
karolyok thanks12:01
reisioHypnotiX1: did you install guest additions?12:01
HypnotiX1nop12:02
reisiodidn't I say to, like two or three times? :p12:05
reisioor five12:05
HypnotiX1i cant find the devices menu :)12:05
HypnotiX1im on step 6 :D12:05
HypnotiX1Click on Install Guest Additions… from the Devices menu, then run mount /media/cdrom.12:05
SuperLagWhat exactly is the ~/Templates for? I know that probably sounds like an obvious question... "to put templates in"... but it seems like if Ubuntu were going to create that dir in your ~, then it would have some sample templates already....?12:06
SuperLagreisio: no... 712:06
reisioSuperLag: that's a freedesktop thing, Ubuntu probably simply did not remove it12:07
reisioSuperLag: you can however12:07
reisiofree desktop or gnome, one or the other, or both :)12:07
reisiohttp://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/02/13/add-your-document-templates-to-gnome/12:08
magdurcan you suggest best firewall for ubuntu ?12:08
SuperLagmagdur: one that you use :)12:08
SuperLagmagdur: as opposed to not... :)12:08
magdursuperlag sorry i dont understand12:09
MonkeyDustmagdur  ubuntu uses iptables12:09
reisiothey all use iptables12:09
reisiodoesn't it come with ufw?12:09
HypnotiX1reisio: i think that guide is if i run ubuntu from windows12:09
HypnotiX1not the other way around12:10
karolyit's hard to find 13.10 assistance D:12:10
SuperLagmagdur: I'm just saying that any firewall is better than no firewall :)12:10
SuperLagkaroly: #ubuntu+112:10
MonkeyDustmagdur  ufw is a basic GUI, fwbuilder is more advanced12:10
reisioHypnotiX1: yes I said that as well12:10
HypnotiX1well i have ubuntu installed and im running windows in the vbox12:11
magdurmonkeydust what is fwbuilder ?12:11
SuperLagkaroly: no, it's not... not at all :)12:11
ffiowhat does bootstrapping means ?12:11
magdurand what is iptables ?12:11
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Guest25105hey12:12
MonkeyDustmagdur  http://www.fwbuilder.org/4.0/quick_start_guide.shtml12:12
Guest25105hello everyone12:12
Guest25105good evening12:12
Guest25105would you like talk with me?12:12
bazhang!ot | Guest2510512:13
ubottuGuest25105: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:13
Guest25105OK ,12:13
Guest25105I  have a problem12:13
MonkeyDustmagdur  read this to get to know iptables https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo12:14
magdurthank to everyone12:14
magduri will read it12:14
Guest25105magdur12:14
Guest25105where are you form12:14
Guest25105from12:14
Guest25105which country do you live12:15
magdur<Guest25105> yes12:15
DJonesGuest25105: This channel is for Ubuntu support, if you have a support question, you are welcome to ask it in the channel, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat12:15
MonkeyDustGuest25105  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic12:16
karolyhow can i make transmission start auto when i turn on the computer12:16
Guest47332 12:17
reisiokaroly: run it, log out & save session12:17
reisiodone12:17
MonkeyDustkaroly  alt-f2 > startup applications > add transmission12:17
karolyMonkeDust when i press alt+f2 appears a search bar... am i supposed to select transmission from there?12:18
MonkeyDustkaroly  no, search startup applications from there12:19
karoly ah xD ok thanks12:19
stephen_Hello12:19
karolydammit i can't translate startup applications in italian DD:12:19
stephen_Im using xubuntu with Gnome shell12:20
Twenty-threeDr_willis: hi, i came here earlier asking for help with the GUI not loading when booting ubuntu, you were right, i selected a different kernel in GRUB and the resolution is correct, everything fine, except the launcher bar and the bar at the top are still absent and i don't know what to do about it12:23
KaitoKidguys, can someone help with my problem? When I press the Alt key it activates the move window function in which case I don't have to hold the Alt key anymore, and to deactivate the move window function I have to press Alt key again.12:23
KaitoKidSimilar to caps/num lock12:23
Twenty-threekaitokid, maybe look into your desktop shortcuts?12:24
Twenty-threekeyboard shortcuts*12:24
KaitoKidTwenty-three: Yes, I have looked into it. But I can't find it there :/12:24
riplyhi guys, are there any imap/mailservers admins around that would be keen to help me with a little authentication issue I am having, running Ubuntu Server an dVirtualmin?12:24
KaitoKidmaybe it's having a conflict with other programs that I'm not aware of :/12:24
jribriply: just ask your actual question.  If anyone knows how to help you, they will respond12:25
Twenty-threei googled trying to find how to reset unity but haven't found anything actually helpful, i found approaches that seem outdated (prior to 12.04)12:26
riplyjrib, thanks man, I will do12:27
karolyCani reinstall the XFCE Audio Daemon ?12:27
karolyXFCE Volume Daemon*12:27
reisioXfce12:28
reisioyou can if you want12:28
karolyhow ?12:28
SuperLagreisio: if that's unwelcome, my apologies.12:29
reisioI don't mind PMs, but msgs about PMs is excessive! :p12:29
natixhi all12:31
natixCould some please help on svn ?12:31
reisionatix: #svn12:34
natixreisio: thank you :)12:35
Picinatix, reisio: Their channel is #subversion12:35
joshuI'm configuring lightdm and I don't understand what this means if someone can please explain: "user-authority-in-system-dir = True if session authority should be in the system location"12:35
karolyreisio nobody on #xubuntu knows what's my problem with the volume plugin D:12:35
reisiokaroly: give it some time, it's early12:36
karolyOoook12:36
reisioPici: nope12:36
Picikaroly: You said that you were using 13.10 in #xubuntu. 13.10 is not yet released and is likely to have problems.  Also, support is in #ubuntu+1 only for that release.12:36
Picireisio: really? hrm.12:36
reisioit's #svn12:37
reisiothey've set +s like idiots12:37
karolyOoook Pici12:37
zuzuhello I resized my ecryptfs root partition but there is still no free space after reboot12:41
zuzuwhen I do df -h12:41
zuzuin gparted you can see  it is 20GB12:42
choct155I'd like to apply a patch for my network adapter, but it appears to be applied on top of 3.10-rc5.  This appears to be well into Saucy Salamander, but I am currently running Raring Ringtail (v 3.9.0).  Am I correct in assuming I would have to upgrade to Saucy Salamander before applying this patch?  Is Saucy far enough along at this point to do so?12:42
zuzu /dev/sda1 is still only 7GB but I resized it to 20 GB from live cd and rebooted12:42
Guest25105hello friends .Do you like to talk with me12:42
OrpheonI'm adding the wine ppa with $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa, yet for some reason there is no package called wine1.612:43
Orpheonis this normal on a 11.10?12:43
adamkGuest25105: You've been asked to take idle chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic twice already.12:43
karolywine is in the official repository i think  i use apt-get install wine and it worked12:43
Orpheonyeah, but I want wine1.612:44
Orpheonjust apt-get install wine gets the version 1.412:44
ffiowhat does bootstrapping means ?12:44
nxiswhat are you using wine for?12:44
nxisis it really working now?12:44
Guest25105wine ,what is it?12:44
Orpheonnxis, in my case, trying to get league of legends to work12:45
karolywine is used to install windows software pretty much12:45
BluesKaj!wine > Guest2510512:45
ubottuGuest25105, please see my private message12:45
ramsramboUSB boot error, installed Ubuntu 12.10 using unetbootin12:45
xormor!bootstrap | ffio12:45
wsnipexOrpheon, ubuntu 11.10 is deprecated, no new builds accepted on launchpad12:45
Orpheonoh12:45
Guest25105tell me wine?12:46
Guest25105what is it/12:46
Orpheonwsnipex, is there any way to override that and get a ppa from a newer OS?12:46
BluesKajGuest25105, look at the pm12:46
xormorffio: bootstrap is when the operating system and the whole computer starts up.12:46
karolyGuest25105: Wine is used to install windows software12:46
wsnipexno, you must build it yourself12:46
gregor_hey guys how do i install skype on ubuntu becase its not in the software center ?12:46
Guest25105oh ,thanks12:46
xormorffio: first the Power On Self Test, POST, then the operating system.12:46
Guest25105what is ppa12:46
BluesKaj!ppa12:46
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:46
xormor!boot | ffio12:47
ubottuffio: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:47
ffioxormor: !bootstrap12:47
ffioxormor: soryr12:47
ramsramboUSB boot error, installed Ubuntu 12.10 using unetbootin12:47
xormorffio, that's ok.12:47
zuzugregor_: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/ > then click linux12:47
metxasramsrambo, use lili (linux usb creator)12:47
xormorffio, it is when the computer ties its shoelaces or straps its boots.12:47
karolyramsrambo: maybe your bios doesn't support bot from usb12:47
Guest25105oh ,my knowledge is lack12:48
xormorffio, the whole startup of the system, when the computer starts.12:48
ramsrambokaroly : but I can boot from the same usb on another machine12:48
MonkeyDustgregor_  skype is in the software center, but you have to activate the 3rd party source, first12:48
MonkeyDustGuest25105  that's called 'learning'12:48
karolyramsrambo: the same unetbootin usb drive?12:48
zuzucan anyone help me with my ext4 resize issue?12:49
gregor_strange i cant seem to see the linux option for it ?12:49
ramsrambokarole : yes! the same usb boots very well on my lappy (core i7) but fails to boot on my desktop12:49
karolyramsrambo: so probably is a BIOS problem.... what BIOS do you have ??12:49
ffioxormor: ok so collectively what ever processess that undertakes when a computer starts is known as bootstrap  correct?12:50
karolygregor_: have you tried apt-get install skype ?12:50
gregor_never mind i found it12:50
gregor_ty12:50
ramsrambokaroly : I went to the BIOS setup and changed to USB booting that is the reason it is giving me a boot error12:50
xormorffio, yes, system startup.12:50
zuzuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5932665/12:50
karolyramsrambo: so you gave the USB Boot !ft place in priority ?12:50
karoly1st place*12:51
ramsrambokaroly : yup!12:51
ffioxormor: ok :)12:51
karolyramsrambo: and it gives you an error and the boot stops or it boots from HDD skipping the USB ?12:51
ramsrambokaroly : it stops after saying "Boot Error"12:52
karolyramsrambo: that's strange... what model is your BIOS ?12:52
ramsrambokaroly : intel P4 865gbf mother board12:53
zuzuhow come my system only sees 7GB of my 20GB partition?12:54
karolyramsrambo: yes but i need the BIOS model not the mother board12:54
ramsrambokaroly : Bios ver BF86510A.86A.0077.P2512:55
karolyramsrambo: have you tried updating the BIOS ?12:56
ramsrambokaroly : Intel stopped giving the BIOS updates and I hv the latest one12:57
karolyramsrambo: in the BIOS options have you activated the USB Legacy Support ?12:57
karolyramsrambo: anyways i gotta go! good luck ;)12:58
magdurguys my mobile modem dont work in ubuntu what can i do12:59
ramsrambokaroly : nope there is on legacy support under the BIOS only enable and disable USB boot option is avail12:59
DaekdroomIs the Lubuntu default ISO a LiveCD too?13:00
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Johnny_Linuxramsrambo,  is windows on the machine ?13:00
magdurguys my mobile modem dont work in ubuntu what can i do13:01
ramsramboJohnny_Linux : nope no windows but I hv ubuntu but it has crashed13:01
Johnny_Linuxramsrambo,  does it give boot options text when it boots, and, try hitting esc or f12 on boot, there should be either one13:02
ramsramboJohnny_Linux : no it is not coming to that screen at all13:02
Johnny_Linuxinteresting13:02
gregor_dose anyknow here i can downlaod wmware for linux for free?13:02
ramsramboJohnny_Linux : I tried the same USB stick on my lappy it boots very well13:03
zuzugregor_: vmware.com13:03
Johnny_Linuxthere should be a boot options text when it boots before bios13:03
Johnny_Linuxif not, it bay be outdated13:03
ffiocurrently i have setup LAMP stack, ftp and ssh services are running. now can i create a live cd of it ?13:03
ramsramboJohnny_Linux : when I boot on my lappy it displayed the Unetbootin menu13:04
BluesKajgregor_, vmware isn't free , try virtualbox ,it's free13:04
zuzuBluesKaj: vmware player is free (as in free beer)13:04
Johnny_Linuxramsrambo,  when it dos that, dont click anything just let run its course13:04
BluesKajyeah Ziber , have you tried it ?13:04
ramsramboJohnny_Linux : but the same USB stick gives me boot error and stops on my desktop13:04
BluesKajoops zuzu , have you tried vmware player?13:05
Johnny_Linuxramsrambo,  maybe you need to reinstall the usb drive, remember, format it to msdos first13:05
Johnny_Linuxfat13:05
Johnny_Linux3213:05
ramsramboJohnny_Linux : okk! just use format cmd on win 713:06
zuzuBluesKaj: yes it works but no snapshotting13:06
zuzuBluesKaj: that's the limitation. Then you need vmware workstation, which isn't free13:06
Johnny_Linuxyes, but format it to fat and then use unetbootin to do the rest13:06
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choct155I'd like to apply a patch for my network adapter, but it appears to be applied on top of 3.10-rc5.  This appears to be well into Saucy Salamander, but I am currently running Raring Ringtail (v 3.9.0).  Am I correct in assuming I would have to upgrade to Saucy Salamander before applying this patch?  Is Saucy far enough along at this point to do so?13:06
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ramsramboJohnny_Linux : alright lettme try that tooo13:06
zimbogood day, how are you13:06
Johnny_Linuxok13:06
zimbois it possible to use WhatsApp under ubuntu13:07
Lopeokay so I've copied all the data off my windows NTFS partition (sda5). Now I'm gonna delete it and create an EXT partition. I figure I'll use the GUI for this.13:07
zimboit's a mobile phone app used for instant messaging, usually to replace SMSing13:07
jony_easyriderhow can I install a Canon LBP6020 under Ubuntu 12.04?13:07
zuzuI resized my /dev/sda1 from 7GB to 20GB. The partition looks okay but the system still thinks it is 7GB. Where to look?13:08
zuzuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5932665/13:08
BluesKajzuzu, yeah , I recall there was a catch with the vmware player , it was a long time ago ...Virtulalbox works well.13:09
ffiocurrently i have setup LAMP stack, ftp and ssh services are running. now can i create a live cd of it ?13:09
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zimboanyone been able to message other people using whatsapp on a computer without a SIM or a phone number?13:10
ffiozimbo: yeah it's possible13:10
ffiothere is an emulator called bluestack or something similar to it..13:11
zimboi see, ffio, thanks, have you tried it? how did you register on to the whatsapp network without a phone number? or can you temporarily use a cell number that you have access to??13:11
OerHeksjony_easyrider, i do not see your Canon LBP-6020 listed in openprinting.org13:12
ffiozimbo: currently i don't use it my friends use it, so i have to ask them about it.13:12
jony_easyriderOerHeks, and this meens that it won't work?13:12
zimboffio thanks13:13
ffiozimbo: np13:13
zuzufor those interested, I will try this13:14
zuzuhttp://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=1348613:14
Lopewhoa. i just deleted my NTFS data partition. that was scary :)13:14
LopeShould I make a whole bunch of partitions or just one fat EXT4 partition for all my data?13:15
zimboffio: in case you or anyone else cares, this is how to use the whatsapp network under ubuntu: http://linuxg.net/whosthere-an-whatsapp-client-working-on-ubuntu/13:15
VeiditSo if I want to upgrade from 10.4 to 10.10, is this even possible? do-release-upgrade just wants me to go to 12.413:15
wilee-nileeVeidit, desktop right?13:16
ffiozimbo: that will be useful :)13:16
OerHeksjony_easyrider, canon is know as a bad opensource supporter.13:16
Veiditwilee-nilee: No, server.13:16
jony_easyriderI have many LBP 6000 at the office and they are working fine13:16
jony_easyriderOerHeks, I have many LBP 6000 at the office and they are working fine13:16
Riteshhow can i register my nickname on irc freenode13:17
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nxisi have a question regarding ubuntu privacy. I heard that starting with 12.10 - there is a major privacy issue (amazon search?…). Is there something similar in 12.04? Should some tweaks be made there to enforce privacy?13:17
bdd_newbiehow to connect to ftp server using ssh command localhost port 300013:17
PiciVeidit: 10.10 is not a supported release. You should be going from 10.04 to 12.04, which are both LTS releases.13:17
Pici!register > Ritesh13:17
ubottuRitesh, please see my private message13:17
wilee-nileeVeidit, 10.10 is end of life and all up to 12.04 which is not13:17
LopeAt the moment I've got sda1 windows 32GB, sda2 linux swap 32GB, sda3 linux 32GB, 654GB remaining. Now I was thinking of just making one final EXT4 partition of 654GB? or should I make some more smaller ones? I've heard of people using a partition JUST for downloads, for example. is any of that necessary if you have loads of free space?13:17
VeiditPici: I have no option here, I have to go to 10.10 because of specific software requirements and the cpu dosn't support 12.413:18
Priceynxis: I'd guess the clue there is "starting with 12.10"?13:18
philinuxjony_easyrider: canon provide a linux driver http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/i-SENSYS_LBP6020.aspx?type=download&page=113:18
VeiditThe cpu is a i586 and it seems that 12.4 wants to have a i686 cpu13:18
Veiditwilee-nilee: No can do, haveto go to 10.1013:19
wilee-nileeVeidit, 10.04 is still supported can you not stay there?13:19
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Veiditwilee-nilee: No, stupid software13:19
Veiditwilee-nilee: Third pary software that requires 10.1013:19
wilee-nileeVeidit, we don't support end of life.13:20
philinuxjony_easyrider: should be easy to install13:20
tmmunq10.04 is lts so go to 12.0413:20
Veiditwilee-nilee: Yea so you are saying that there is no way to upgrade to 10.10 or that you won't tell me how to do it?13:21
zimboffio just tried it, the client doesn't work. surprising that a project would die that quickly. crazy13:21
zimbo: (13:22
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wilee-nilee!eol | Veidit read13:22
ubottuVeidit read: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:22
ffiozimbo: ohh.. :/13:22
gregor_how do i get to the downlaods  section in firefox ?13:22
Veiditubuntulog: I am aware of that, but I still need 10.1013:23
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PiciVeidit: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com has unsupported packages, but you will no longer be getting security updates and will be essentially on your own.13:25
VeiditPici: I know, the damn thing is that I am locked by the vendor for the software we are dependent on.13:26
wilee-nileeVeidit, read the link, your answer is within. lol.13:26
jony_easyriderphilinux, if I check the "software" it doesn't do anything13:26
BluesKajvel13:26
BluesKajVeidit, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:26
gvksainihow register on freenode permanently?13:27
philinuxjony_easyrider: have you got cookies enabled in your browser, it takes me to a screen to select os etc etc13:27
azazel91does anybody know how i can determine the name of my wirless card shipset13:27
gvksainican anyone help me out?13:27
Pici!register  | ktosiek13:27
ubottuktosiek: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode13:27
BluesKaj!register13:27
gvksainim from haryana13:27
Piciktosiek: I fail at tab complete today13:27
wilee-nileegvksaini, If no one gives you the code go to #freenode that info is on the web.13:28
Picigvksaini: see ubottu's message above.13:28
gvksaini! register13:28
Picigvksaini: read what ubottu said above.13:28
philinuxjony_easyrider: http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/i-SENSYS_LBP6020.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:14-1060371&page=1&type=download13:28
wilee-nileedoh and the bot13:28
ffiohi wilee-nilee :)13:29
wilee-nileeffio, what's up13:29
ffiodoing great :)13:29
wilee-nileegood13:29
ffiocreating a live cd of my current installation :)13:29
wilee-nileeffio, Ah, good I did that a couple of times.13:30
ffiogreat13:30
ffiocurrently i have setup LAMP stack, ftp and ssh services if i create a live cd will all the config files will be there in live cd ?13:31
mhrHow can I add wlan0 to my bond0 which already has eth1 and eth2 as slaves in ubuntu 12.04 server? I tried to search but everywhere i can find only bonding eth0 and eth1 not wlan0.13:31
philinuxazazel91: lspci | grep Network13:31
joshuanyone know if the little icon in unity-greeter next to the username can be made into a link, like the help link in the remote login box?13:32
nakazanietoHmm żre 435 MB system pod odpaleniu, ale nie ma co patrzeć na to bo mam  zainstalowane gnome3 więc pewno  daemony odpala swoje13:33
Pici!pl | nakazanieto13:33
ubottunakazanieto: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.13:33
ffiowilee-nilee: any idea about it ?13:33
nakazanietosorry :) My bad.13:33
gizmoHi All13:33
ffioPici: which lang was that ?13:33
Piciffio: polish.13:33
ffio:)13:33
tehpwnzim trying to install pytyle3, can anyone help me with this please? pastebin.com/0naVqZ2K13:34
nxisone more old question regarding multiboot13:34
nxisif there are several installations of ubuntu on the same hard drive, how to properly setup /boot directory?13:35
gizmoI am running ubuntu with parallels on a mac is it the same as if I used a PC?13:35
ikoniagizmo: same os - same experience13:36
nxisuse shared dedicated /boot partition?13:36
Dr_willisthe vm should emulate a pc. but the 3d acelleration maynot work corectly gizmo13:36
magdurguys how can i protect my self 0days ?13:36
Dr_willisnxis,  you may not even want to bother with a /boot partition13:36
zeusmagdur: use NoScript13:36
gizmoikonia: thanks13:36
mhrHow can I add wlan0 to my bond0 which already has eth1 and eth2 as slaves in ubuntu 12.04 server? I tried to search but everywhere i can find only bonding eth0 and eth1 not wlan0.13:36
magdurhow will be that ?13:36
ikoniamhr: probably not a good option to do so, but its the same process just with the interface wlan0 included13:37
Dr_willismagdur,  totally will depend on what the exploit is exploiting.13:37
bananapieHow do I prevent my ubuntu distro to forget memory cards at shutdown? At each boot, my mac address changes so on the third boot, my ethernet card is now called eth213:37
ikoniamhr: a lot of wlan cards won't support it though13:37
ikoniabananapie: your mac address doesn't randomly change13:37
ikoniabananapie: you are doing something to change it13:37
bananapieYes, the ubuntu is installed on a USB key, and I boot on a different computer each time.13:38
nxisDr_willis: assume: sda1 - ubuntu 12.04, sda2 - ubuntu 13.04. then both updating kernel and updating grub. which /boot will be used for grub?13:38
ikoniabananapie: so what's the issue then ? they are different network cards so will have different macs13:38
philinuxazazel91: also sudo lshw -c network13:38
ikoniabananapie: it's behaving as it's designed to do13:38
roopakI have accidently deleted many critical files from my ubuntu 12.04 machine as root user. I have another PC running same version of ubuntu with almost same packages and configuration. I have same hard dis size and same partitioning on both these machines. How can I restore that into my first PC which is not able to boot into the ubuntu OS ?13:38
bananapieI know, but I want to change the behaviour13:38
ikoniaroopak: what did you delete and how13:38
ikoniabananapie: well seeing as I suspect your booting from squashfs that's quite tricky13:39
Dr_willisnxis,   GRUB installs to the mbr of the hard drive. it stores files in /boot/ each os can have its own boot folder on its /. you dont really need a stand alone /boot/ partition (you could share it i guess)  I really dont see much need to dual boot the 2 ubuntuv ersions.13:39
Dr_willisbananapie,  is this a full install to the usb ? or a live-cd setup on the usb?13:40
wilee-nileeffio, I did that about 4 years ago when there was an app that made it easiest, I think it is gone or renamed, not really up on it.13:40
mhrikonia, i am getting error -- Master 'bond0', Slave 'wlan0': Error: Enslave failed -- when doing as other interfaces.13:40
Dr_willismagdur,  dont msg me.. and thers no 'magical' software that will protect you in every case.  If there was.. then everyone wouldbe using it.13:40
ffiowilee-nilee: ok :)13:40
ikoniamhr: yor card may not support it, are you trying to do trunking or active/passive13:40
bananapieI used debootstrap to install the usb key. I added a few packages like vim, partimage13:40
mhrikonia, that was when I restarted networking13:40
wilee-nileeffio, The web has some info, here is one. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization13:41
roopakikonia: I wanted to purge LAMP server and as I couldn't purge them, I used the command sudo rm -r `locate apache`.  And I think that doesn't matter now because I am not bothered of the original installation. I wnat to clone my second PC into my first.  Because I am afraid I deleted many other files too ( I created a shell script to delete akll files related to apache and mysql )13:41
ffiowilee-nilee: currently i am refering that link, but wanted to knwo that my config files would be preserverd or not.13:42
magduri send message because i cant say that look like to you with red and i dont feel myself safe13:42
ikoniaroopak: that should have only deleted 1 file13:42
magdurfor instance when i use windows i install kaspersky and i feel safe13:42
ikoniaroopak: actually I guess it depends what else you changed for locate to find13:43
wilee-nileeffio, Used to be fairly easy, the only problem I had was a good boot, on a usb rather than a cd, but I was experimenting, not really knowing what I was doing, not much has changed for me. ;)13:43
ikoniaroopak: simple - just re-install to be safe13:43
mhrikonia, i dont know much about trunking or active/passive but i am using round robin mode13:44
ikoniamhr: that's not going to work very well, even if your card supported it, which it looks like it doesn't13:44
magdur@dr_willis how can i tag13:44
magdurhere irc13:44
Dr_willismagdur,  time to read up on security web sites and learn about things i guess. thers no magical bullet.  and i dont know what you mean by 'tag'13:44
Dr_willismagdur,  just by running linux instead of windows.. you are 1000x safer. :013:45
mhrok thank you ikonia for your help13:45
fosstererHi! After installing and removing xen, my boot time got increased.. What can I do now?13:45
magdurwhen you response to me your nick will ve red but i dont know how can i do13:45
Dr_willismagdur,  time to read up on your IRC CLIENT docs.. its doing that.13:46
jony_easyriderphilinux, TY very much, now I can install the LBP6020 too :)13:46
bananapieI will add rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to the network startup script13:46
ffiowilee-nilee: let me experiment and checkout what happends13:46
Dr_willis!manual magdur13:46
bananapiecan I have more than one pre-start in an init conf script?13:46
Dr_willis!manual | magdur13:46
ubottumagdur: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/13:46
ffios/happends/happens13:47
philinuxjony_easyrider: always consider looking at the manufacturers support site for linux drivers. It's becoming more common now13:47
philinuxjony_easyrider: good result though13:47
wilee-nileeffio, Thats how we learn, the original app I used, had a save for the same machine or any machine, I think it is still supported by someone new but renamed, I just got up so don't remember the original name.13:48
magdurde_willis where is it doc13:48
Dr_willisbananapie,  for allthings 'upstart' related - theres the 'upstart cookbook' that has  the best docs ive seen on the topic13:48
jony_easyriderphilinux, now I can see what's was my issue: for the LBP6000 the common driver version was 2.40, but since then the latest common driver version is 2.60 which contains the LBP6020 model too, TY again :)13:49
wilee-nileeffio, Ah this was what I used. http://www.remastersys.com/13:50
ffioremastersys13:50
ffioyeah13:50
ffiono it's something like OS/2 system-imager13:50
Dr_williswilee-nilee,  i think that project is sort of dead/forked now ;)13:50
Dr_willisnight all.13:50
wilee-nileeDr_willis, Yeah I mentioned that just following up. ;)13:50
wilee-nileewith the name13:51
reisiopepole who've had enough with free software are so cute :p13:51
vasilezarembaMy Lenovo x1 Carbon has just been stolen, any recommendations for a new laptop?13:51
vasilezarembathinking of trying the Macbook air13:52
alnri'm looking for a 2pane filemanager where the 2nd pane can be a quick view of the file selected in 1st pane. like midnight commander but graphical. i dont see a quick view in gnome-commander13:52
SuperLagvasilezaremba: I've own an Air. Loved it. I'd stick with OS X on it though13:52
SuperLagvasilezaremba: and put Linux in a VM13:53
BluesKaj!polls | vasilezaremba13:53
ubottuvasilezaremba: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.13:53
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reisioalnr: like 50%/50% two pane? Those are usually called orthodox13:53
vasilezarembaI have to wait one month for a new carbon13:53
reisioa lot of "non-orthodox" file managers have the option, though13:54
reisiohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_managers13:54
Picivasilezaremba: ITs not really on-topic for #ubuntu,  try #ubuntu-offtopic or perhaps ##hardware13:54
alnrreisio: i want to be able to enlarge the 2nd pane, thats why i'm looking for alt. to mc13:54
vasilezarembaok sorry13:54
vasilezarembaKrusader is all right13:54
reisioalnr: a lot of GUI managers have a separate area for previews, instead of using the 2nd pane13:55
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alnrhmm i dont see a quick view in krusader13:56
vasilezarembaF3?13:57
vasilezarembaaaa, sorry, I know what you mean13:57
alnrf3 does pop up a window. i basically want to go thru large numbers of files quickly just pressing arrow down on a directory13:58
alnron a file list13:58
yatharthrg13:59
Lopei got this message when running fdisk /dev/sda: The device presents a logical sector size that is smaller than13:59
Lopethe physical sector size. Aligning to a physical sector (or optimal13:59
LopeI/O) size boundary is recommended, or performance may be impacted.13:59
bananapieDr_willis, thanks. I found the answer immediately in the doc14:00
bananapieI have bookmarked the page.14:00
Lopesorry, that was meant to be 1 line. can I do that without killing my installation?14:00
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Cristian-Hello14:04
ses1984i think i broke one of my installs. i tried to add a user, then added that user to some groups. so far so good. things seem fine. i log in as this user and test things out, great.14:06
AqDCristian-: hello!14:06
Cristian-Hi! may I ask something?14:07
magduryes14:07
ses1984i log in as my old user, and it says, i'm not in the sudoers file. i log in as the new user, and he's also not in the sudoers file. no now one is in the sudoers file...so i'm kinda suck14:07
ses1984stuck* haha14:07
mudkip908ses1984: Can't you just login as root?14:07
varunendra!ask | Cristian-14:07
ubottuCristian-: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:07
Cristian-I want to know if there's a replacement to sabayon profile manager14:07
ses1984mudkip908: no one knows the root password on ubuntu systems, it's randomly set14:07
Cristian-sorry for my english... it's not my native language14:08
ikoniases1984: boot from a livecd and update it14:08
auronandaceses1984: no14:08
auronandace!noroot | ses198414:08
ubottuses1984: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.14:08
ses1984what would i update14:09
ses1984by the way i'm working on this machine through ssh, i can't even do a clean shutdown because "shutdown: Need to be root"14:09
ikoniases1984: you could set a root password, you could put a user in the sudo group,14:09
ikoniases1984: how did all the users get removed from the sudo group ?14:09
mudkip908ses1984: You need physical access.14:09
ses1984my user wasn't in the sudo group before, but i was able to sudo. this is 10.04 by the way14:10
robertzaccourI was going through the net install and I wanted to have the option of installing with no desktop, but that option wasn't there. Is net install what I need to do that? Does netinstall install without a desktop?14:10
ikoniases1984: the group is "admin" then14:10
mudkip908that's beacuse the group is actually called wheel14:10
ikoniases1984: (on 10.04)14:10
ses1984i am in that group14:10
ikoniamudkip908: no, it's admi14:10
ikoniaadmin14:10
ikoniases1984: if you are in "admin" on 10.04 then you should be fine14:10
mudkip908sorry , haven't used 10.04 in a while14:10
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wilee-nileerobertzaccour, The install leaves you with a command line, that not enough?14:13
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: I didn't know that, I wanted to make sure. Thanks.14:13
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, Just don't add anything, I believe.14:14
irssi-mikei found this list of commands http://pastebin.com/CMvYu6e2 and what I need to do is copy the entire / from a remote machine to my local machine but i don't understand this code and i'm afraid of what it might do, scp created an infinite loop and rsync isn't supported on the remote machine14:14
ikoniairssi-mike: what is your end goal ?14:15
irssi-mikebacking up a modem, i want all the files and stuff14:15
irssi-mikei have ssh access to it14:16
ikoniairssi-mike: a modem ?14:16
reisioirssi-mike: it ssh's into a remote host, then runs the command in quotes, then pipes the output to tar14:16
ikoniairssi-mike: then surly you just want the modem config files14:16
irssi-mikeit's only like 4mb the whole thing, i just want the whole thing really14:16
ikoniairssi-mike: can you not just scp user@remote:/ .14:17
ses1984ok, so i'm trying to recover the system that i no longer have root on, put in a live cd and tried to "execute a sell in /dev/sda*" and nothing happens, i tried all the partitions and14:17
ses1984either nothing happens, or it says mount failed14:17
ikoniases1984: why do you no longer have root14:18
reisioirssi-mike: scp -r, that is14:18
ikoniases1984: you said you where in the admin group - that should give you sudo permissions14:18
ikoniareisio: good catch14:18
reisioikonia: I wish we played catch more often :/14:18
ses1984when i did usermod -G i just typed the groups i wanted to add, not the groups i wanted to be in, so it wiped me out of all the groups i was in like admin14:18
ikoniases1984: you said you where in the admin group 20 seconds ago14:18
mudkip908ses1984: that's why you use gpasswd -a14:18
ses1984i *was* in it before i screwed it up14:19
ikoniases1984: what you screwed up 20 seconds ago ?14:19
ses1984when i answered that i was in the admin group i was looking at stale output in the terminal from before i executed usermod -G www-data ses198414:19
ses1984now i'm jst in that group14:19
ikoniases1984: what group is your current user in ?14:20
ses1984www-data14:20
ikoniases1984: that's it14:20
ikonia?14:20
ses1984actually currently im sitting in the live cd main menu trying to execute a shell and it isnt working14:20
ses1984but yeah, thats the only group im in14:20
mudkip908ses1984: are you mounting the correct partition?14:20
ikoniases1984: ok, boot from a livecd, mount the root file system and either update the group file, or the password file14:20
ikonia(shadow file too if you do the password file)14:21
ses1984there are three partitions, tried mounting the first one and the screen flashes but nothing else happens, go back and select other two partitions and it says mount failed14:21
ses1984i guess those are swap and whatever else14:21
mudkip908ses1984: do your partitions have labels?14:21
ses1984no14:21
ses1984rebooted and confirmed, i'm just in www-data group14:21
mudkip908ses1984: lsblk -f14:21
ikoniases1984: please show me the command you are using to mount your root file system14:22
vnc786need help to FIND OUT "dhcp service is in stop status after boot how it happened suddenly i have not update anything nor i have made any changes"14:22
ses1984ikonia: it's whatever the ubuntu 10.04 i386 installer wizard is using to mount root, after that failed i tried 12.04 and had the same thing happen14:22
mudkip908ses1984: just give him the command14:23
ikoniases1984: how are you trying to mount the root file system ?14:23
vnc786ubuntu 12.04 64bit14:23
mudkip908the command youre entering14:23
ikoniavnc786: manually try to start it ?14:23
ikoniavnc786: look in the syslog14:23
ffiowhen doing sudo apt-get update, getting error, GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com raring release: The following signatures couldn'tbe verified because the public key is not available: no_pubkey 1623g3729124d1ds14:24
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azazel91does anybody know how to install madwifi drivers for my card14:24
reisioazazel91: which card?14:24
ses1984boot live cd > rescue broken system > bunch of menus about keyboards hostname timezone >14:24
vnc786ikonia: syslog , nothing  there14:24
ikoniavnc786: did you try to start it ?14:25
ses1984device to use as root /dev/sda1 > execute a shell there > continue > execute a shell there > continue > repeat14:25
azazel91astheros AR928X im on ubuntu 12.0414:25
auronandaceses1984: that isn't a command14:25
ses1984im not executing a command14:25
ikoniases1984: ahh you're booting the recovery shell from the livecd ?14:26
vnc786ikonia: i have now manage to bring it up at boot by putting in /etc/network/if-up.d/14:26
ses1984yeah14:26
ikoniases1984: ok, just boot the livecd into the desktop mode, then mount the disk14:26
ikoniases1984: lets keep this simple14:26
ikoniavnc786: ??? that's nothing to do with dhcp14:26
somanI need to record all windows of one app under xubuntu. What app can help me?14:27
reisiosoman: how many windows has it got?14:27
somanat this time 214:27
vnc786ikonia: its seems strange i havent done anything for last couple of months it use to get start when i use to start my ubuntu 12.04 64 bit but for last 2 days there seems problem14:28
reisiosoman: might be simpler to capture the entire screen and crop out the two parts you want afterward14:28
reisios14:28
azazel91i tried installing this but it failed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124078114:29
ikoniavnc786: I'm really sorry, but I'm not following what you are saying, I thought you where asking why your dhcp server was not starting14:29
somanreisio: what app use for capturing and cutting videos?14:29
tlopezwhat program to use to change the format of a video file?14:30
reisiotlopez: ffmpeg14:30
reisiosoman: ffmpeg14:30
reisio:D14:30
vnc786ikonia: there is no problem with dhcp working the issue is only with service start|stop14:30
vnc786after boot14:31
ikoniavnc786: my apologies, I thought it was the dhcp server failing to start from your first message14:31
reisiosoman: ffmpeg -f x11grab, look it up; it's a little more complicated than some other options, but much more reliable14:31
vnc786thanks for your time no problem14:31
reisiosoman: also ffmpeg for cropping14:32
reisio200 people in #ffmpeg14:32
lgcHi. When I boot normally to my Ubuntu I get a black screen. If I boot in recovery mode it boots well. What gives?14:32
reisio!nomodeset14:33
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:33
HoNgOuRuhi14:33
reisiohi14:33
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lgcThanks, reisio. Let me look into it.14:34
BluesKajreisio, when I try to use ffmpeg , I get the "app is depracated " message14:35
reisioBluesKaj: right, that's because some clown switched Ubuntu from ffmpeg to libav14:35
reisioBluesKaj: libav probably wants you to use 'avconv' or something14:35
reisiostill mostly the same command14:35
gregor_how come when i type in sudo password root to get acces to the root it comes up with erroers ?14:36
BluesKajreisio, exactly , I prefer ffmpeg ...worked well for yrs14:36
ffiocan we run services in chroot ?14:36
reisioffio: most likely14:38
reisiogregor_: it's passwd, not password14:39
reisiogregor_: and by using sudo you become root, so just 'sudo passwd'14:39
gregor_ah ty14:39
ffioreisio: :)14:39
ffioreisio: why is it not possible to run all the service which we can run in normal ubuntu installation ?14:40
ffioany specific reasons ?14:40
reisioffio: it should be, technically14:40
reisioyou may not have mounted all the things your chroot requires to work perfectly14:40
reisiobut nor should it matter that much, why do you need to do it from a chroot14:40
ffioreisio: i was just curious and wanted to know.14:41
guest5171!help14:43
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:43
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ubottupong!14:43
reisioffio: wanted to know what?14:44
guest5171!botsnack14:45
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!14:45
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azazel91i tried following this to and it hasnt worked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros14:46
ffioreisio: wehter all the services can be run in chroot or not.14:47
azazel91says blacklist command not found14:47
ffios/wehter/wether14:47
reisioffio: they can, technically14:48
reisiobut you don't really need to do it14:48
ffioreisio: i will not do it as you said.14:48
reisio:p14:49
wilee-nilee!cookie > guest517114:49
ubottuguest5171, please see my private message14:49
wilee-nilee!help > guest517114:49
ffioreisio: :)14:49
guest5171!botsnack > wilee-nilee14:49
ubottuwilee-nilee, please see my private message14:49
wilee-nileeguest5171, I don't get private messages it is off and post a question if needed and don't abuse the bit or channel.14:50
wilee-nileebot*14:50
reisiosoman: here's how to capture specific windows if you want to try it; you could technically run two commands at once for two separate windows14:50
reisiosoman: http://qubodup.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/record-a-windowed-game-in-linux-using-ffmpeg-in-three-simple-steps/14:50
reisiosoman: there's a chance it'd be annoyingly process intensive, though, cropping a full screen capture is probably still saner14:51
designbybeck_Has anyone install Ubuntu on an Acer w3-810 Tablet?14:51
wilee-nilee!pol | designbybeck14:52
wilee-nilee!poll14:52
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.14:52
wilee-nileedesignbybeck_ I see nothing on the web on this but most likely quite possible.14:54
xeonHas anyone used CDMA on Ubunu?14:55
xeonmy china Telecom CDMA works fine on Linux mint but doesn't work on my Ubuntu....14:55
designbybeck_yeah wilee-nilee, I haven't found anything specifically about that model, that is why i was asking. I'm meeting up with a coworker later who wants to learn about Linux and Open Source Software. We're installing it on a Laptop, but he also had this Tablet he didn't mind playing with14:55
wilee-nileedesignbybeck_, A uefi install feels comfy for you?14:56
wilee-nileedesignbybeck, here is the UF thread I generally give the uefi people, there is a wiki the bot has to. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729514:57
wilee-nileeprobably no biggie for you just passing info14:58
designbybeck_i've only did it once14:58
Ohgahi. how does the restart/shutdown commands work with the runscripts? does any of them skip running them or are they always run?14:58
wilee-nileedesignbybeck_, Have not had the pleasure/pain myself, never been into S&M. ;)14:59
Ohgaand can they be interrupted if they take a long time (whatever long means)?14:59
thinkjsonHow do you add shortcuts to the launcher on the left? I seem to be missing some really basic concept here. :)15:00
Lopeokay good news is W7 still boots :)15:00
reisiothinkjson: open something, right click on it15:00
reisioLope: wonderful news :p15:00
thinkjsonnice. got it.15:00
thinkjsonreisio++15:01
reisiothinkjson: :)15:01
wilee-nileeLope, Shoot linux fails again. ;)15:01
thinkjsonhmm. relaunching it from that same icon fails.15:01
thinkjsonflashes for a bit, then exits without displaying program.15:03
thinkjsonspecifically Sublime Text 215:04
reisiothinkjson: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sublime%20text%22%20%22unity%22%20%22desktop%20file%2215:04
reisiohttp://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=345715:04
Left_Turnhey how do u make a network connection to your router on ubuntu15:04
thinkjson"unity" seems to be the missing piece of information. is that what the launcher is called?15:05
Left_Turni have wireless and ethernet15:05
reisioLeft_Turn: click on the wifi icon, type in password15:05
reisiothinkjson: well "unity launcher" shall we say15:06
Left_Turnhm ok15:06
thinkjsonI've been out of the Ubuntu fold for two years. still catching up. :)15:06
riplywelcome back thinkjson15:07
reisiothinkjson: Unity is a handful of compizy things that run on top of GNOME 315:07
riplyyou've missed out on a lot15:07
thinkjsonthanks :)15:07
thinkjsonI know15:07
reisiothe bar on the left is just the most visible part15:07
thinkjsonlike... Canonical is building a PHONE!?15:07
wilee-nileereisio, lol you beat me to it the commissary is on the right.15:07
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reisiothinkjson: might be15:09
reisiothinkjson: commissioning a phone15:09
thinkjsonwell, right15:10
joshuanyone know how to override the indicators, e.g. not loading all of them from this /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.unity-greeter.gschema.xml15:10
thinkjsonbut if the man can fly to the moon, I'm pretty sure he can get this done amiright?15:10
reisiowilee-nilee: :p15:10
thinkjsonor space at least15:10
thinkjsonwas it ISS?15:10
reisiothinkjson: it's hard to say, they're asking for money to get it done15:10
thinkjsonbeen away too long to remember the lore15:10
Ohgahow does the restart/shutdown commands work with the runscripts? does any of them skip running them or are they always run? also, can they be interrupted if they take a long time (whatever long means)?15:11
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joshuif I change the array to ['session', 'datetime', 'power', 'application'] it won't load lightdm15:11
reisioinstead of just liquidating 6% of Shuttleworth's assets15:11
ramsrambo kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)15:11
reisioI s'pose the point of having a for-profit company is to make money, though15:12
reisionot lose it :p15:12
reisiobut the point of selling something is also to make money (spend money to make it, etc.)15:12
ramsramboJohnny_Linux :  kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)15:13
hadifarnoudsilly question, how can I mv all files with force overwrite?15:13
reisiohadifarnoud: should be mv's default15:14
azazel91anybody know what blacklist is15:14
hadifarnoudreisio: thanks. I was wondering if that's the case15:14
thinkjsonyay! I have a working shortcut!15:15
reisioazazel91: could be referring to disabling the auto-loading of kernel modules15:15
ramsrambohi! I am trying to boot 12.10 and I am getting  kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)15:16
azazel91so how do i disabel ath9k and ath5k15:16
samijamI am running Ubuntu 13.04, sometimes my wifi is very slow.  On speedtest.net I am getting 0.05 Mbps download with 5.5 Mbps upload.  On a windows laptop on same wifi I get 22 Mbps download with 5.5 Mbps upload15:16
IdleOne!blacklist15:17
ubottuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »15:17
IdleOneazazel91: ^15:17
cr3hi folks, I reinstalled my system and the part that is supposed to reinstall previously installed packages failed. how can I troubleshoot that?15:17
dstevensramsrambo: Is this a dual-boot system?15:18
dstevensok bye ramsrambo15:18
blazemorecr3: Could you re-state that?15:18
azazel91i got a problem it isnt there15:19
azazel91is it cause im running a older version of ubuntu15:19
hadifarnoudreisio: mv: cannot move `css' to `/var/www/vhosts/lifewideeducation.co.uk/css': Directory not empty15:19
robertzaccourIt seems I've got a bug here15:19
MihasiHi all. I´m having some trouble installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (well, in fact I´m helping someone else who´se having trouble). The install went fine, but on boot I only gets a limited grub shell. Booting from there on doesn´t work: it finds and reads the kernel (using the vmlinuz command), but when I try to load the initrd image it says it cannot read the file. However, I opened the file in a live CD session and it seems to be alright... Does anyone have a15:19
cr3blazemore: I had a system with 12.04, it got corrupted, so I re-installed 12.04 on top of the same system. at the end of the installation process, I was pleasantly surprised that ubuntu was trying to reinstall previously installed packages. however, that failed so I'd like to figure out why.15:20
robertzaccourI tried to do the Ubuntu minimal install and it keeps failing to install grub. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.15:20
reisiohadifarnoud: well that's a directory, isn't it15:20
hadifarnoudyeah15:20
blazemorecr3: I don't recognise that scenario, sorry :\15:20
reisiohadifarnoud: first answer here looks good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/269775/mv-directory-not-empty15:20
cr3blazemore: yeah, I can't find anything about it online either, so it doesn't seem to be a common scenario which also probably explains why it doesn't work :)15:21
Mandalordrobertzaccour: how ddid you fail?15:21
cr3if something is not used regularly, it accumulates bitrot and should be removed15:21
robertzaccourMandalord: it said failed to install grub15:21
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azazel91so blacklist is a serpate compartment15:22
robertzaccourMandalord: I used a usb flash to install. Is that where I went wrong?15:23
infrared_Since the usual /etc/X11/xorg.conf was removed, how does one set options (like drivers) for input devices on 13.04?15:23
Mandalordrobertzaccour: not really. I use an flash disk too15:23
robertzaccourMandalord: is this a bug?15:23
Mandalordmay you type sudo fdisk -l and post the result on  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15:24
blazemorecr3: I'd recommend doing a completely fresh install, including formatting the target partition, so no files from the old installation remain15:25
robertzaccourMandalord: me type sudo fdisk?15:25
Mandalordrobertzaccour: yes sir. sudo fdisk -l15:25
adamkinfrared_: Create a conf file...  It can be /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/15:25
robertzaccourMandalord: it failed to install, I'm now in live session15:26
Mandalordrobertzaccour: in live session yes.15:26
robertzaccourMandalord: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933117/15:27
cr3blazemore: I wanted to recover as much as possible though, ubuntu really made a nice effort but probably just failed for some inane reason that I could probably fix if I could find15:27
the_cyber_guyi am using ubuntu 12.04 and trying to configure mail server with postfix. i have just moved to new domain name and configured the mail server accordingly. i tried sending mail using sendmail cli as root and it worked fine but the mail received has the old domain name like root@old.domain. i can't figure it out. any help would be appreciated.15:27
cr3blazemore: I need to reboot but I'll continue looking, cheerio!15:27
infrared_adamk: Ok, thanks15:27
ikoniarobertzaccour: what command did you use to install grub ?15:27
robertzaccourikonia: I just let it do its thing15:28
ikoniarobertzaccour: what is the error you get trying to use grub ?15:28
robertzaccourikonia: failed to install is all I remember15:28
robertzaccourikonia: I don't recall any message15:28
ikoniarobertzaccour: I suggest either a.) trying to get more detail on the failure b.) manually installing grub15:29
robertzaccourikonia: how do I manually install grub?15:29
azazel91https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros15:29
ikonia!grub2 | robertzaccour15:29
ubotturobertzaccour: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub215:29
azazel91when i type in echo ath_hak >> ect/modules it says permission denied15:30
mudkip908what's ath_hak?15:30
azazel91opps ath_hal15:30
Ohgaazazel91: typing as root?15:31
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mudkip908azazel91: "echo ath_hal | sudo tee /etc/modules"15:31
Picimudkip908: sudo tee -a15:31
mudkip908yes oops15:32
robertzaccourikonia: how do I install boot repair? It says not found.15:32
antikytherathe_cyber_guy: Have you edited the /etc/mailname file?15:32
mudkip908or just open /etc/modules with nano as root15:32
gethenianis there any way to install on a non-pae cpu?15:32
ikoniarobertzaccour: you can just use a livecd15:32
azazel91what about echo ath_pci >> /etc/modules15:32
Mandalordrobertzaccour: If the links are too long, just read this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933137/15:32
mudkip908azazel91: you'd need to execute that while logged in as root15:32
mudkip908not with sudo15:33
ikoniarobertzaccour: (such as the one you are on now)15:33
the_cyber_guyantikythera, i think i need to run dpkg-reconfigure postfix. i have just edited main.cf and restarted postfix. that might be the cause of the problem15:33
azazel91im a newbie how would i do that15:33
mudkip908azazel91: sudo su15:33
mudkip908then your command15:33
antikytherathe_cyber_guy: all right.15:33
azazel91can you just give me the whole thing15:34
Ohgacould be wrong, but just sudo -c "<the command>" ?15:34
gethenianis there any way to install on a non-pae cpu?15:34
mudkip908Ohga: yeah that would work15:35
azazel91echo ath_pci >> /etc/modules15:35
Ohgasimplicity whenever possible..15:35
mudkip908su -c not sudo -c15:35
Ohgamudkip908: ah yeah, you're correct15:36
reisiogethenian: cpu? or kernel?15:36
robertzaccourikonia: I followed the instructions and here's where I'm stuck http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5933153/15:37
gethenianreisio - the kernel on the install iso demands my cpu have "pae", but it doesn't so the install disc doesn't boot15:37
ikoniarobertzaccour: you don't mount swap15:37
reisiogethenian: really15:38
reisiogethenian: is it a 64-bit image?15:38
crankharderdoes anyone know if start-stop-daemon(init.d) can monitor multiple processes from one script.  I basically want to launch the same daemon multiple times with each instance having different ENV variables sent to it.15:38
crankharderand starting/stopping/restarting them all at once would be nice15:38
robertzaccourikonia: Ok I'm now confused.15:38
ikoniarobertzaccour: why are you doing a minimal install ?15:39
reisiocrankharder: duplicate the scripts, run a for loop15:39
gethenianreisio - I am trying to install 32 bit to a "pentium m" which lacks "pae extensions" but only has 2gb ram15:39
crankharderreisio: yea, specifically trying to avoid maintaining multiple scripts15:39
reisiogethenian: yeah doesn't really make sense :p15:39
reisiogethenian: you might try the minimal install image15:39
gethenianthat was the minimal install image15:40
reisiooh really :p15:40
reisioyou might try some other image :p15:40
reisiogethenian: mmm15:40
Mandalordrobertzaccour: well that's just a simple guide. In your circumstance, I suggest sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/temp15:41
reisiogethenian: are you on an OS on the box right now?15:41
robertzaccourikonia: Because I want to install Mate desktop without having to remove a bunch of other stuff. Does this info help with my issue?15:41
keithb1gethenian: use an older version of ubuntu or use the non-pae mini-iso net install15:41
Ohgaare runscripts always run on stoping the system, or does any of the commands (halt, shutdown..) bypass them?15:41
ikoniarobertzaccour: I'll leave your smart mouth to resolve the problem on your own, I was only trying to understand the problem to better advise you as it's clea ryou have no clue what you are doing15:41
gethenianreisio - no right now I'm using a desktop machine, because the laptop with the pentium m has no OS installed15:41
reisiogethenian: do you have the laptop model?15:42
gethenianthinkpad t4215:42
robertzaccourMandalord: ikonia http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5933165/15:43
robertzaccourI dunno if this can be any help.15:43
ikoniarobertzaccour: I wish you good luck in resolving your problem, I'd also suggest looking at "mint" as a distribution if mate is important to you15:44
reisiogethenian: dunno why they'd require PAE, but I guess you just need an image without it15:44
Mandalordrobertzaccour: it tells smthing about ethernet but not about grub or boot15:44
robertzaccourikonia: I prefer the default Mate from thee PPA, and I don't wanna hassle with removing a bunch of stuff.15:45
keithb1gethenian: read this - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html15:45
ikoniarobertzaccour: mint's mate is default15:45
robertzaccourMandalord: Well network setup was fine, it didn't error until installing grub15:45
ikoniaMandalord: it actualyl does reference sda1 not being able to mount15:45
Mandalordikonia: ah yes, misread it15:46
robertzaccourikonia: no, its got a lot of junk added I don't care for, and Mint is kinda buggy anyway15:46
alparadaHi everyone, Im a new Ubuntu user15:47
ikoniarobertzaccour: it will take you more time to setup a minimal install with your base skill level, than to remove a few packages from ubuntu15:47
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, cinnamon is in the raring repos, if needed15:47
SuperBawlzWelcome... To the real world...15:47
ikoniarobertzaccour: it's up to you how you proceed15:47
gethenianreisio - it said "www.webupd8.org not found"15:47
reisiogethenian: ...what did?15:47
reisioalparada: hi15:47
alparadaanybody speak spanishhhh??????15:47
saiarcot895!es | alparada15:48
gethenianreisio - firefox15:48
ubottualparada: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:48
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: I don't really like cinnamon that much.15:48
Mandalordrobertzaccour: not sure why sda1 cannot be mounted? may you try full install then install mate15:48
reisiogethenian: ...15:48
reisiowhy tell me15:48
alparadahey gracias por la info15:48
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, Cool, just passing info.15:48
saiarcot895alparada: you're welcome15:48
holsteingethenian: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html works fine for me.. try again15:48
gethenianhappened a second time. well, I'd guess the reason why is that firefox passes on the hostname to the dns server, but the dns server didn't find it15:51
noaerhello guys15:51
holsteingethenian: you can try a site such as "is it down for everyone"15:51
robertzaccourok it says boot successfully repaired http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933175/ I used boot repair just now15:51
reisionoaer: 'lo15:51
robertzaccourI'm gonna boot. Might brb. Hope not though :P If not then thanks in advance :)15:52
javierlhi, doesn anyone knows how to debug a netinstall installation?, the installer stops at downloading the repos index, and the logs don't show anything wrong15:53
noaeri'm using xubuntu laptop15:53
weblifeI finished a three part tutorial last night on how to get going with Node.js / MongoDB on Ubuntu and then deploy it to cloud services.  Could I get any interested parties to review it for fixes / ideas on how to improve it?  https://github.com/TheMindCompany/mongonode-app/blob/master/tutorial.pdf15:53
noaershould I install tlp?15:54
C^^Anyone have success running Ubuntu with the Surface RT?15:54
C^^Or do I need to throw this thing in the trash15:54
gethenianit appears www.webupd8.org is only unknown on the dns server I use15:55
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huckleberryhi, what's the best way to find files in commandline?15:57
Dark_lighthuckleberry: find /path/to/directory -depth -iname "name of file" or install mlocate run update-db and then just do locate name of file15:59
ramkamhi guys ... got a question on vnc ... and the raspi16:00
goleldarhello16:00
ramkamtrying to make this work out: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=50897&p=39382516:00
ramkambut it's showing me a screen that is different from the HDMI output16:00
magdurguys are there anyone here prepare #keygenmusic ?16:00
ikoniaramkam: this is ubuntu support16:01
goleldarhow would I move all children files and folders from a current directory into a new folder in the same directory16:01
ramkamikonia: yups, trying to get some help :-)16:01
goleldarfrom the terminal?16:01
ikoniaramkam: you're not using ubuntu though, that guide is not for ubuntu16:01
Mandalordgoleldar: use mv command?16:01
huckleberryDark_light: do i have to " the file name, or use ' ?16:01
ramkamikonia: yep, i completely agree, but it's likely that someone in this chan knows a bit more than me on the topic,16:02
ikoniaramkam: this channel doesn't support non-ubuntu issues, sorry16:02
Ohgagoleldar: bash?16:02
magdurhow can i product a keygenmusic ?16:02
goleldarit involves mv16:03
Ohgagoleldar: are you using bash?16:03
goleldarya16:03
Ohgahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/91740/how-to-move-all-files-in-current-folder-to-subfolder16:03
Picimagdur: A what?16:03
Ohgaor in short "mv !(subdirname) subdirname"16:03
goleldarwow thanks16:04
Ohgaand possibly "shopt -s extglob" first16:04
ramkamikonia: ok, let's suppose it's ubuntu. can the same user have 2 different displays  ? with which (ubuntu) command can i list them ?16:04
magdura keygen music16:04
ikoniaramkam: lets not - please use the correct support channel.16:04
Picimagdur: I have no idea what that is but it doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Ubuntu.16:04
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ramkamikonia: that's very helpfull, thank you.16:05
ikoniaramkam: no problem, good luck16:06
amcsi_workhi16:07
huckleberryDark_light: thank you16:07
amcsi_workdoes memtest86 that comes with ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32-bit work with 8GB of RAM?16:08
amcsi_work(which is for more than 32-bit)16:08
ikoniaamcsi_work: yes, it will16:08
* firecooler ( NoNameScript 4.22 :: by greeny & mute :: www.nnscript.com :: www.esnation.com )16:09
ikoniafirecooler: please disable that script16:09
iFailamcsi_work: es portugues? ou brasileiro?16:09
firecooleroops wrong click16:09
firecoolersorry16:09
a5m0my touchpoint was working on my thinkpad yesterday but suddenly it's not today, has anyone noticed similar behaviour or have a suggestion how i might fix it?16:09
joshuanyone know why I can't use gsettings to remove some unity-greeter indicators with gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter indicators 'session,date time,power,application' ?16:09
amcsi_workikonia, thanks16:11
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kingjohn!list16:15
ubottukingjohn: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:15
magdurhacılar ben iftara gidiyorum16:30
magdurgörüşmek üzere16:30
magdur"oruç tut sıhhat bul" a binaen "iftar et rahatla"16:31
huckleberry!turk16:31
Ohgamagdur: wrong channel?16:31
huckleberry!turkish16:31
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.16:31
huckleberrymy best guess :P16:31
DJoneshuckleberry: Google translate would agree with Turkish16:32
huckleberryDJones: well then - it is settled :)16:32
magdurı m hungry man16:33
W4spuname -a16:33
huckleberrymagdur: you are from hungary?16:33
magdurnot hungary hungary hungry16:34
magdurwithout food16:34
* Ohga hands magdur a sandwish16:35
huckleberrymagdur: ok :)16:35
ariel`how do i connect to the internet using the commandline16:35
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magdurubuntu la aslında imdi trolleyesim var ama yapmayacam bak valla yapmayacam kalkıp gidecem imdi16:38
crankharderwhats that cmd that updates which runtimes an init script starts on?16:38
Ohgamagdur: seriously.. english in here..16:38
DJonesmagdur: This channel is English only16:40
kostkon!tr | magdur16:41
ubottumagdur: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.16:41
kostkonhope that's the right language16:41
tmmunqgoogle detects it as turkish16:42
kostkon;)16:42
magdurguys how can i learn to my kernel version ?16:42
tmmunquname -a16:42
magduryes correct is was turkish ü16:42
magdurthank to16:43
magdurguys how can i connect webchat.freedone.net for #ubuntu it is possible ?16:45
magdurusing from smartphone ?16:46
ariel`anyone know how i could connect to the internet using the commanlinm16:46
magduractually i want to keep in touch with you :)16:46
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theadminmagdur: Err, smartphones have plenty of native IRC clients16:48
theadminmagdur: On Android, try AndroIRC16:48
nuclearramboyo mama16:49
ses1984i'm trying to boot into recovery mode and get into a root shell prompt, and it's mounting root as read only. is that normal? i need to change some things to fix the system16:57
ses1984/etc/mtab says it's mounted rw, remount ro16:57
rypervencheses1984: Yes, you need to remount it as rw. "mount -o remount,rw /" without the quotes.16:59
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pixelshuckHi, I would like to know whether ubuntu BAG meets the Airport cabin baggage measurements17:03
magdurtheadmin thank too much17:04
magdurtheadmin: i can connect #ubuntu here isnt it ?17:06
theadminmagdur: Sure.17:06
fishcookeri've ubuntu box on17:08
fishcookerhow to download animefreak.tv rather than watch online?17:08
Ohga*blink* um... ask animefreak.tv?17:10
sahil__hello people17:11
michi1802hi17:11
pixelshuckHi, I would like to know whether ubuntu BAG meets the Airport cabin baggage measurements17:11
sahil__well i have changed my graphics card,from amd to nvdia... my screen keeps flickering.how to deal with it?17:12
ses1984i tried to follow a guide on how to change a user name, and i think i have everything working properly in command line,17:13
holsteinpixelshuck: those requirements will be per airline.. what "bag" in particular? are you having issues finding he specific measurements? this is the support channel for the OS, so i would contact whoever is creating the "bag"17:13
ses1984but when booting to the gui user log in screen, it still shows the old user name. using 12.0417:13
maggdurYes guys finally i connect wwith mobile17:13
holsteinses1984: i would make a new user,a nd migrate17:13
maggdur,<317:13
ses1984i have tried editing /etc/lightdm/users.conf, to IncludeAll= true , Include = newusername17:14
holsteinses1984: i would change the name back, test. create new user, migrate files from /home as needed17:14
sahil__my os is ubuntu 12.0417:14
holsteinsahil__: you'll want to remove the custom driver you installed17:15
holstein!ati | sahil__17:15
ubottusahil__: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto17:15
ses1984holstein: well its kinda too late for that17:15
philsturgeonI've added user "logstash" into group "adm" with "usermod -a -G adm logstash". The file is read only for the adm group, and when I sudo su logstash I can read the file. BUT, when I restart the logstash_agent service, which runs as the "logstash" when I grep ps aux | grep logstash, but the process cannot read these files.17:15
holsteinses1984: its actually not, as far as i see it17:15
sahil__i have not installed any propietory stuff...17:15
philsturgeonso logstash IS in the group, but a process under that user cannot read a file. huh?17:16
holsteinsahil__: you likely did install the nvidia driver from a popup, and dont konw what that means17:16
holsteinsahil__: you would have seen soemthing about installing a driver, and you clicked through.. thus creating the issue you have17:16
ses1984if i saw it your way then i wouldn't have to come here and ask for help17:16
holsteinsahil__: you can view the link i gave, and see what packages you have installed, and remove them, as needed17:17
sahil__ok...anyway how to check if i have a ati specific driver installed?17:17
holsteinses1984: i would just state the issue you are having as clearly as possible, and a volunteer will likely help17:17
holsteinsahil__: a specific nvidia drver17:17
maggdurHacilar yeni gesiad nerde17:18
ses1984ok, i want to change the default user that appears when you get to the gui login screen, using version 12.0417:18
holsteinsahil__: the link i gave will show you how to look for the driver modules you have or have not installed17:18
abc6293Hello. I have Nvidia GT540M GPU. How do I install drivers for the same in ubuntu 12.10 LTS?17:18
sahil__ok...17:18
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holsteinses1984: i would try the user/accounts gui17:19
holstein!nvidia | abc629317:19
ubottuabc6293: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto17:19
sahil__how to check what driver is currently installed?17:20
abc6293I'm a noob in linux world. How do I get myself started?17:21
holsteinses1984: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username looks like how i would try17:21
wilee-nileeabc6293, Just using it helps, it is a gigantic amount of information overall discover what you want to know and research it.17:22
ironfoot495Hello evertone can someone show me how to get mysql and apache2 to boot at startup? 10.04 ubuntu17:22
holsteinsahil__: you can open a package manager and see what packages are installed from the link i gave you.. you can assume one is installed, and use the remove command.. you can put the ati device back in, boot with no issues and remove the driver17:22
sahil__ok..17:23
holsteinironfoot495: they dont "boot".. they would run as services.. which should just be set up when installing17:23
holstein!lamp | ironfoot49517:23
ubottuironfoot495: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.17:23
abc6293By the way, what exactly is KDE? I did some research but didn't understand it completely.17:23
holstein!kde17:24
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.17:24
ariel`so nobody knows how to connect to the internet using the commandline?17:24
reisioyes, except for the part that's a for-profit company, it's an open community :p17:24
vishnu_KDE is a window manager17:24
holsteinabc6293: unity is the "desktop environment" of main ubuntu.. kubuntu uses KDE.. its basically the desktop look and feel17:24
reisiovishnu_: a DE, actually :)17:24
FahAnyone here using the latest ubuntu on a '10 macbook pro?17:24
reisioFah: probably someone doers17:25
reisioand also does17:25
holstein!macbook | Fah17:25
ubottuFah: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages17:25
Michael72I have the beta version of Firefox. If the extension stops working due to the fact that the transition to the latest version of the beta. How to do in this case? Where to report a problem?17:25
FahYeah, been down that path. Wondering about native uefi mode & bumblebee17:25
reisioMichael72: _the_ extension?17:26
Michael72yes, plugin, add-on. jslib17:26
sahil__i have another problem.i have a micromax 3g dongle,it doesnot get detected...even network manager doesnot shows device(that is "any device" is written)17:26
abc6293So KDE is just like a theme or something? It doesn't effect the basic framework of linux?17:27
reisioMichael72: irc://irc.mozilla.org/firefox http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/17:27
sahil__kde is desktop environment17:27
vishnu_yaa desktop enviroment17:27
reisioabc6293: K-DE17:27
reisioabc6293: it doesn't A-ffect what you can do with GNU/Linux so much, no17:28
BluesKajariel`,  ethernet?  are you at tty , if so then you're probl;y already connected17:28
Michael72sahil__: I prefer to send the AT command to the modem via minicom17:28
netlarDo I need to install blueman to get bluetooth to work?17:28
reisionetlar: what distro?17:29
netlarUbuntu 13.0417:29
sahil__is minicom a script?17:29
reisionetlar: probably comes with a bluetooth manager17:29
holsteinFah: bumblebee is in a PPA17:29
holstein!uefi | Fah17:29
ubottuFah: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:29
Fahthanks17:29
n80hi all, i have two windows stuck open on my desktop from plugging in-unplugging-plugging back in my iphone. they will not close, one is asking what action to perform when plugged in, and one says it was unable to mount because it was already mounted. any idea how to kill these. how can i identify the pid at least?17:29
holstein!kde > abc629317:29
ubottuabc6293, please see my private message17:29
netlarreisio: I typed in blueman, one entry comes up, blueman17:29
Michael72sahil__: sudo minicom -s <== this is utility17:29
reisionetlar: right, because blueman is a thinkg and you searching explicitly for it17:30
holsteinabc6293: KDE is kde.. you'll need to read about it.. or try kubuntu live17:30
reisionetlar: you probably already have some GNOME bluetooth GUI installed17:30
holstein!kubuntu > abc629317:30
ubottuabc6293, please see my private message17:30
bertogattin80: open terminal, type xkill, click on the window17:30
sahil__okk...lets try..btw what is AT command?? O.o17:30
netlarreisio: Sorry, typed it in synapic and it shows up , No installed17:30
reisionetlar: synaptic?17:30
netlarreisio: Yes17:30
n80bertogatti: boom! thanks so much!17:31
abc6293So KDE is just about how I want my desktop environment to look, or does it has it's own set of features (new features)? I'll definitely try it.17:31
bertogattin80: welcome17:31
n80bertogatti: wish i had known of that before :P17:31
reisioabc6293: KDE is more comfortable to people coming from Windows, IMO17:31
netlarreisio: Sorry for my horrible spelling17:31
reisioabc6293: if your mind is flexible and you have the time or inclination, you can make almost any DE or window manager + panel work like Windows or Mac OS17:32
holsteinabc6293: KDE is a desktop environment that you are welcome to read about via http://www.kde.org/screenshots/ or the other links i gave.. or by running kubuntu live, or another KDE idstro17:32
holsteindistro*17:32
Michael72sahil__: my native language is Russian, it is hard for me to explain, but I'll try to find something on the Internet in English for you17:32
rollinbayxfce is lightweight,speedy, and good looking once you get it properly setup17:32
sahil__ah...thanx :)17:33
abc6293Ok sure thanks a lot! :)17:33
chillblaine#funfile.org17:33
vishnu_y do'nt anyone talikong about GNOME17:33
vishnu_it too great than xfce and17:34
Michael72sahil__: http://www.techytalk.info/disable-virtual-cd-rom-drive-with-built-in-software-on-huawei-and-zte-gsm-modem-devices/17:34
OhgaI want to double check that run scripts are always run on shutdown/reboot17:34
Ohgais it so?17:34
michi1802hi i have a problem with xawtv. i found with search no stations, any idea ?17:35
holsteinvishnu_: because this is not a "talk about it" channel.. you can try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. also, no "official" ubuntu variants ship with gnome.. though, ubuntu is doing what it always did.. supply the latest verision of gnome17:35
kevinDoes anyone here know how to compile php with pcntl in this forum ??17:35
ironfoot495Hello I was just here and I did follow the advice to install Lamp but I still get the same resp[onse. Should I remove all file to my php  and start all over or what???17:35
Michael72sahil__: And I'm not using NetworkManager. There is another way to configure the connection17:35
abc6293I'm preparing myself for Google Summer of Code. What can be some interesting projects which I can seek? Not to mention, I'm a noob. Have to give a lot of hardwork.17:36
holsteinkevin: i would follow the readme's at the site.. if you compile on your own, you are kind of one your own.. you can try a PPA17:36
ian_whats Google Summer of Code?17:36
holsteinMichael72: there are many network managers.. wicd is popular17:36
reisioironfoot495: what's the problem?17:36
fribcellhi.  does anyone know how I can change boot options on a persistent usb install? its terribly frustrating to have to catch the f6 everyt ime! thanks17:37
vishnu_ya what is it!17:37
ironfoot495reisio: Icant get mysql and apache to boot at start-up?17:37
holsteinian_: its pretty much OT here.. https://developers.google.com/open-source/soc/17:37
reisioit's a way for google to spend a fraction of their profits on finding new talent/technology17:37
wilee-nileefribcell, You may have to look on the web for that it is possible.17:37
bertogattifribcell: change your BIOS options?17:37
ironfoot495apach217:37
vishnu_is it open for... student tooo17:37
reisioironfoot495: is that a question?17:37
reisioit's only open to students, IIRC17:37
reisioyou can't just be some guy :p17:38
ian_thanks holstein17:38
ironfoot495reisio: Well I'm asking how do I get mysql and apache2 to start-up at bootup?17:38
kevin#holstein - sorry not that technical what's ppa17:38
holstein!ppa | kevin17:38
ubottukevin: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:38
kevinthanks17:39
ironfoot495They don't boot someone said to install Lamp and tht's what I did!17:39
holsteinironfoot495: in ubuntu, you install them and they start.. please see my link17:39
holstein!lamp > ironfoot49517:39
ubottuironfoot495, please see my private message17:39
abc6293I'm 20, student. I'm preparing myself for Google Summer of Code. What can be some interesting projects which I can seek?17:39
holstein!ot | abc629317:40
ubottuabc6293: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:40
holsteinabc6293: also, maybe try a programming channel17:40
abc6293Oh sure. Thanks!17:41
reisioabc6293: /msg alis list *gsoc*17:41
kostkonabc6293, btw "Ubuntu will not be participating in Google Summer of Code 2013"17:41
kostkonabc6293, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC201317:41
vishnu_connecting internet through dongle is quite quirky in linux17:42
reisiovishnu_: nah17:42
holsteinvishnu_: depends on the specific device17:42
vishnu_any simple application!17:42
vishnu_heuwaii too!17:42
holsteinvishnu_: doesnt matter.. the chipset matters17:43
wilee-nileekostkon, That is fud, can you not read, "Ubuntu applied as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013. Unfortunately, our application was not accepted, but we hope to participate again if the program continues for another year."17:43
kostkonwilee-nilee, that wasn't my intention17:43
vishnu_thanks holstein,,, what u use to connect internet17:43
holsteinvishnu_: many devices17:43
vishnu_now17:44
holsteinvishnu_: typically, the operating systems are not responsible for driver support.. in linux, the linux kernel can do that, and usually does support what it can17:44
wilee-nileeI don't care what ubuntu does but misinformation helps no one.17:44
holsteinvishnu_: you can always ask the vendor for support17:44
vishnu_ohhh17:44
Shadowandlightsemi off topic.... what should the privileges look like for a mysql user who only needs to read/write access to there specific database?17:46
holsteinShadowandlight: i think, as a rule, as limited as possible17:47
Shadowandlighthttp://i.imgur.com/CBLdvMA.png17:47
holsteinShadowandlight: try the server channel... or a mysql or security specific channel17:47
Shadowandlightok17:47
vishnu_does recent kernel suites dongle17:49
reisiovishnu_: yes17:49
holsteinvishnu_: depends on the chipset.. try them from live CD's17:49
vishnu_thanx17:49
holsteinvishnu_: or, again, ask the creator of the dongle for linux support17:50
vishnu_thanx17:51
derootAs you know, Unity (Ubuntu Desktop) has a special feature that is called "HUD". This feature enables you to  access menu options of current software by pressing Alt key and typing a key word. Very useful. Is there a similar case in Gnome3?17:54
bazhangderoot, check the gnome-shell extensions site17:55
runsoniaruni just upgraded from Ubuntu Desktop 12 to 13, and tried to update the Flash plugin.  But Adobe no longer providing updates?  Anyone know if this is a security concern or can point me to an article around it?17:56
reisiorunsoniarun: if and when it's a real security concern, Ubuntu will stop making it "easy" to install17:56
wilee-nileerunsoniarun, The ubuntu repo has a adobe-plugin17:56
derootbazhang: ... search for "hud" on the site? let me check17:57
reisioand IIRC it's not getting _developed_ but it is being patched for security17:57
bazhangderoot, not hud, but something that has similar properties17:57
reisiofor nsplugin, anyways17:57
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runsoniarunthanks reisio, just needed assurance, it's all good.17:58
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wilee-nileederoot, couple of ap[ searchers I use synapse myself18:00
wilee-nileeapp*18:00
derootbazhang: checked; nothing for Gnome 3.8!18:00
wilee-nilee3.8 is a PPA and not supported18:01
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derootwilee-nilee: I've never use Synapse. r u sure it can search a software menu?18:01
bazhangderoot, well thats a PPA, and seriously inadvisable to use in any case18:01
wilee-nileederoot, what is you definition of software menu, I ave not used hud.18:02
wilee-nileehave*18:02
derootbazhang: but it's working well for me!18:02
wilee-nileesynapse works like the dash if it is installed you can find it with it, if not just a dependency18:04
derootwilee-nilee: HUD: for example, your typing in libreoffice and you need to change format. 1st way: click on Format menu > click on Page option18:06
deroot2nd way: press Alt > type "page"18:06
crankharderanyone know how to stop all running instances of an upstart-enabled process?18:07
wilee-nileederoot, Ah, thats what I suspected, synapse is just a app finder so not applicable.18:09
robertzaccourOk I now have pure mate installed on top of Ubuntu minimal18:10
robertzaccourHow do I install gdebi package installer with the terminal?18:10
derootcrankharder: ps -o pid,sess,cmd afx | grep -A20 "PROCESS-NAME$"18:10
mudkip908robertzaccour,  sudo apt-get install gdebi?18:10
robertzaccourI mean, what command do I input to install gdebi package installer?18:10
daftykinsrobertzaccour: sudo apt-get install gdebi18:11
robertzaccourmudkip908: Thanks. What's with the ?18:11
mudkip908accidentally pressed it18:11
daftykinshe's a tad surprised as it was an easy question18:11
vedicI have installed pgbouncer using dpkg. When I try to start it (/etc/init.d/pgbouncer start) there is no output. Even I don't see the log file created into /var/log/postgres/pgbouncer.log . How to know what is the problem?18:11
biohazard88:218:11
robertzaccourdaftykins: I got it thanks. This pure Mate on top of minimal install leaves some things out haha :P but at least I get to choose pretty much anything software wise instead of having it chosen for me :)18:12
daftykinsrobertzaccour: was that to save disk space or to run faster on old hardware?18:12
derootvedic: first, you should explain (shortly) what is pgbouncer:P18:12
vedicderoot: postgres connection pooling tool. Google it the best. But consider it as any other way which when started as service, not doing anything18:13
joshuhow do you remove hibernate and suspend from the top menu bar in unity-greeter?18:13
reisiojoshu: probably an option in the config18:14
reisiojoshu: dpkg -L packageName | grep etc18:14
robertzaccourUh..Gdebi isn't recognizint my password...18:14
robertzaccourthis is so weird18:14
robertzaccourdaftykins: I just wanted pure Mate install withouth removing another DE and stuff that comes with it.18:14
reisiorobertzaccour: might need gksudo or something18:15
derootvedic: sudo service pgbouncer status18:15
derootsudo service pgbouncer start18:15
joshureisio I tried but get not results18:15
reisiojoshu: what'd you try?18:16
joshureisio what you sent me, dpkg -L unity-greeter | grep shutdown18:16
joshureisio what you sent me, dpkg -L unity-greeter | grep suspend18:16
joshureisio what you sent me, dpkg -L unity-greeter | grep hibernate18:16
joshunothing18:16
vedicderoot: I think you have not read the issue I mentioned. I know its not running. "status" and ps -aux doesn't show it. "start" doesn't give any output. No creation of log file18:16
nantouI have edited my /etc/environment file so it proxifies all traffic. If I write a # at the beginning of each line, will it be commented and thus, inoperative?18:16
robertzaccourreisio: but gdebi is gui18:16
robertzaccourreisio: I'm confused :-/18:17
mumpitzelnantou: yes. and only programs which honor HTTP_PROXY will actually be proxied18:17
n-iCehello guys18:18
mumpitzelhello baby18:18
jakesahirhello budy18:18
tubbois ethtool supposed to be bundled with ubuntu (12.x)?18:18
tmmunqa better solution would be to set up a transparent proxy18:18
mumpitzeltubbo: yes: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ethtool&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any18:19
n-iCewhy do poeple use ubuntu instead of xubuntu or lubuntu ?18:19
Sk1Specialbecause I only heard of those after i installed ubuntu and went looking for help.18:19
tubbowell it doesn't work for me18:20
daftykinsn-iCe: they have this crazy thing called... choice18:20
mumpitzel!doesn't work | tubbo18:20
ubottutubbo: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.18:20
robertzaccourAnyone know why gdebi wouldn't be accepting the correct password?18:20
n-iCedaftykins: is not supposed to work better than ubuntu? I mean lubuntu at least? faster?18:20
tubboi get "The program 'ethtool' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:"18:20
goddardhow can i print all the UUIDs?18:20
tubboyeah i would've said that faster if my stupid shell would copy shit properly18:20
daftykinsn-iCe: well it depends what you want doesn't it18:20
mudkip908goddard: Of your disks? ls /dev/disk/by-uuid18:20
daftykinstubbo: language please18:20
bazhang!blkid | goddard18:21
ubottugoddard: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)18:21
jakesahirwhat was the new features in ubuntu 13.04?18:21
tubboi don't get why i don't have this command..18:21
anoneeif I right-click a contact in empathy's contact list, there's an option to view contact information. upon the first click you'll be presented with an option to use local address book, and if you happen to choose it, it won't pop again, how to reset this so I can choose the online contact information instead?18:22
mumpitzeltubbo: dpkg -l ethtool | tail -1    what is the output?18:22
mumpitzeltubbo: most likely you don't cause you haven't installed it18:22
wilee-nileejakesahir, there are package list for every desktop and the versions on the web look for yourself.18:22
jakesahirok18:23
tubbough18:23
tubboi guess so but the chef recipes here would indicate that i *should* have it >:(18:23
tubbowhatever18:23
tubboi installed it18:23
wilee-nileetubbo, more drama please. ;(18:23
tubbolol sorry wilee-nilee18:24
jakesahiri have problem in my ubuntu 12.10 when i try to install any software from terminal using sudo apt-get install its just waiting at 0% not doing any thing and i am not be able to install any thing in my ubuntu18:24
robertzaccourok gdebi works fine form the terminal, but in gui it won't accept my password18:24
wilee-nileejakesahir, pastebin a sudo apt-get update all the text.18:24
joshuany othe suggestions on how to remove suspend and hibernate from the top menu bar cog menu item?18:24
jakesahirok18:25
daftykinsjakesahir: sounds like you have APT mirror issues. is that the PC you're online from right now?18:25
chilli-saladI'm looking at my ufw firewall log to make sure my server is protected, but noticed something strange and want to know if it's ok. I have my router forwarding a port to the server, but only allowing one IP address on that port. My ufw log shows multiple addresses attempting but getting "UFW BLOCK". But one time one address got "UFW AUDIT". Does that mean ufw allowed access?18:25
jakesahirwilee-nilee:http://pastebin.com/Ke66LdBR18:26
daftykinschilli-salad: let me google that for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143371/what-do-ufws-audit-log-entries-mean18:26
jakesahirya i am online @daftykins18:27
wilee-nileejakesahir, pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list18:27
jakesahirwilee-nilee:http://pastebin.com/gWcBp99z18:29
sahil__hi18:29
sahil__how to update grub entires?18:29
anoneeokay gonna ask my question again, please, anyone? the right-click menu of empathy's contact list contains "contact information" item, upon the first click you'll have to choose between "online" and "use local address book", and the local address book will pop every time, what if I want to reset this option or use the online profile instead?18:29
wilee-nileejakesahir, Hmm, eveything is there are you proxied?18:29
jakesahiryes i am in my college network ,wilee-nilee18:30
robertzaccourAnyone know why gdebi wouldn't be accepting the correct password?18:30
jakesahircyberoam proxy server ,wilee-nilee18:30
wilee-nileejakesahir, That is probably the problem, out of my fix area though.18:30
robertzaccourgdebi works fine form the terminal, but in gui it won't accept my password18:31
sahil__any help ? :)18:31
X-Sleepy-X!grub | sahil__18:31
ubottusahil__: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:31
sahil__my grub hav few dead links....18:31
wilee-nileesahil__, Have you run sudo update-grub lately, and what are dead links?18:31
kumarnewhi jakesahir, i am also in campus proxy i configured in my lappy...18:31
jakesahirbut our admin says that there is problem in ur os...?wilee-nilee18:32
jakesahirhow can i configure?kumarnew18:32
wilee-nileejakesahir, I can't really say with any definite answer, sounds like a admin who does not know linux though.18:33
mumpitzeljakesahir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy18:33
sahil__i used to have multiple OS but those os are manualy rermoved(HDD partition merged/formated)18:33
daftykinshah i had the same link 2 seconds later ^18:33
* daftykins high-fives mumpitzel 18:33
wilee-nileeadmins are supposed to help not blame in this situation18:34
vcryanHi fellow Ubuntu users -- it this an appropriate place to ask about my Xorg/unity system which I have mangled so much a can no longer login to my account?  :)18:34
wilee-nilee!who | sahil__18:34
ubottusahil__: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)18:34
jakesahiryes but our admin i think don't know about linux..18:34
tozenvcryan: can u can get in recovery mode?18:34
wilee-nileejakesahir, May be when you figure it out show them. ;)18:35
jakesahiri don't have any proxy server address or port..mumpitzel18:35
guest18172canonical should add a system restore feature to ubuntu18:35
wilee-nileeguest18172, Tons of ways of doing it, linux is about knowing what you are doing.18:35
jakesahirya i try my best ... wilee-nilee thanks18:35
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guest18172yeah, but ubuntu is about making linux such that you don't have to know what you are doing :p18:36
X-Sleepy-Xsahil__: If you read about grub in the previous links you will find something about os-prober...18:36
wilee-nileeguest18172, hardly, that is a projection18:36
sahil___<wilee-nilee> i think i got it it was perhaps sudo update grub :command,all i wanted to regenerate the entries...anyway, how to remove old kernals safely18:36
tozenvcryan: if u r sure u tipe in correct login and password then try to delete ~/.Xauthority file and relogin after18:36
kumarnewjakesahir, you must have it configured in your web browser, if you are using internet behind proxy..?18:37
wilee-nileesahil__, The grub-update fixed it?18:37
rollinbayguest18172: haha, setup.sh scripts are basically our system restore. back that data up to the cloud!18:37
sahil__yes :)18:37
guest18172I want a gui interface based system restore :)18:37
MonkeyDustguest18172  don't hesitate to publish constructive ideas in a blog18:37
Questhi18:37
wilee-nileesahil__, Cool, enjoy. ;)18:37
frewsxcvAnyone have personal websites to show off?18:37
X-Sleepy-Xsahil__: if you run uname -r then you'll see which kernel you're on right now18:37
jakesahirbut how can i find address and port???kumarnew18:38
QuestI am using 64 bit ubuntu with 4 gb ram, but "free g" says 3 gb is there. why is that?18:38
wilee-nilee!ot | frewsxcv18:38
ubottufrewsxcv: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:38
marianneugh... running 12.04 64 bit just installed 4gb of RAM and it's only seeing 2GBs. Is there anything I can do so all the installed ram is used?18:38
X-Sleepy-Xsahil__: then you would need to uninstall previous versions of the linux-header-... and linux-image-...18:38
sahil__<wilee-nilee> thnx :), well i have multiple entries like "previous linux versions" i want to remove those...18:38
wilee-nileeguest18172, You are welcome to write one and submit it, you would have many thanks. ;)18:39
jakesahircan anyone know which port ubuntu uses for downloading software that may be blocked by our admin?? wilee-nilee18:39
tozensahil__: ubuntu-tweak can help you ;)18:39
* Quest waits18:39
sahil__<wilee-nilee>3.2.0-38 pae...18:39
sahil__i gota few x.x.3218:39
wilee-nileesahil__, I use a number of ways to remove kernels the easiest is an app called ubuntu-tweak, a 3rd party, it has a janotor that does great claning including configs.18:40
netlarI just installed Blueman, and I still cannot pair up my bluetooth speakers18:40
josehey guys! let's say I set up an ad-hoc network and want a windows client to connect. When the windows person connects, it does not get the network info (such as ip address, default subnet/gateway) automatically, I need to set it up manually. Any ideas on how to get that done?18:40
guest18172I could draw the graphics for it in ms paint18:40
guest18172:)18:40
netlarIs there something that I need to set to get this to work?18:40
wilee-nilee*janitor18:40
kumarnewjakesahir, apt-get uses http or ftp as given in sources.list file, i think18:40
josenetlar: have you tried pairing them?18:40
X-Sleepy-Xsahil__: I usually just look at which version i'm running and then use the TAB key to find which old versions to remove in this command: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-image-(TAB KEY HERE) linux-headers-(TAB KEY HERE)18:40
netlarjose: yes18:41
sahil__<wilee-nilee>last time ubuntu tweaked messed my sysytem..well i was on Natty that time18:41
josenetlar: does it give any error or something?18:41
kumarnewjakesahir, so if you are able to connect to internet using your browser, then there is no problem, you can download from repositories18:41
netlarjose: They just do not show up18:41
jakesahirok than how our admin blocked this because my net is working smoothly??kumarnew18:41
marianneQuest: looks like we have similar problems18:41
josenetlar: don't know what may be happening, sorry18:41
wilee-nileesahil__, Never had that problem myself, I suppose it depends on how and what you use it for, you can do a kernel search and purge the ones you want to.18:42
netlarjose: It is ok, no one else does ;)18:42
sahil__<X-Sleepy-X> so other then 3.3.38,watever comes will be removed right/18:42
sahil__?18:42
Questmarianne,  i found  a solution18:42
kumarnewjakesahir, you need to know your campus proxy server name/address and port number and if applicable proxy username/password18:42
marianneQuest: share please!18:42
Questmarianne,  what command do you give to check ram, and how muchram do you have?18:42
netlarI thought installing blueman might help18:42
hhhhHi all18:42
kumarnewjakesahir, you must have configured it in your browser check your browser preferences or options something...18:43
marianneQuest: to check - 'free -m' just installed 4GBs18:43
Questmarianne,  1. make sure you have 64 bith 2. do a free -m instead of free -g .      free -g rounds up the ram.18:43
wilee-nileesahil__, might try this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu18:43
sahil__<wilee-nilee> is it possible to change the reso of plymouth?18:43
marianneQuest: yeah I'm 64 bit18:43
wilee-nileesahil__, Not something I would know.18:43
sahil__resolution*18:43
Questmarianne,  see what is under "total"18:43
marianneQuest: showing 1938 under total18:44
Questmarianne,  hm then I wont be able to help further.18:44
wilee-nileejakesahir, For the record beyond figuring out you are proxied I'm lost. ;)18:44
Questmarianne,  make sure its shown 4 g in bios before asking anyone else18:44
tozenmarianne: how do u know u got 4Gigs?18:45
* wilee-nilee only knows what I have broken18:45
X-Sleepy-Xsahil__: this is how i would do it: 1. run: "uname -r" it gives me "3.8.0-27-generic". 2. run: "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-headers-3.8.0-26 linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic" as i would see the 3.8.0-26 version if i autocompleted the command with the TAB-key.18:45
mariannetozen: just bought it and installed it about 2 hours ago18:45
sahil__<X-Sleepy-X>ok thnx :)18:46
louisdkHi18:46
mariannetozen: it's what the package said it should be.... did I get hosed?18:46
Lustvaniaa18:46
sahil__tab is used for autocomplete...learnt a new thing ;)18:46
wilee-nileesahil__, You can tab complete nicks it might be easier18:46
X-Sleepy-Xsahil__: but you might want to keep the one of the old kernels18:46
tozenmarianne: i would redoot with choosing memtest option, them u can see what's wrong18:46
Lustvaniahello all... <<< nubie here ^_^18:46
tozen*then18:47
X-Sleepy-Xsahil__: just in case the latest isn't working properly18:47
sahil__ok...18:47
jakesahiri tried that but when i set proxy my internet is not working??wilee-nilee18:47
mariannethanks guys I'll do that...back in a while18:47
huckleberryLustvania: hi, aren't we all noobs in some way *philosophical sigh*18:47
tozenmarianne: perhaps one of them is faulty18:48
reisiohuckleberry: yes *master philosophical sigh*18:48
reisio:p18:48
Lustvaniahuckleberry_: i mean.. i really nubie ^_^ <<< getting the first know18:48
X-Sleepy-Xsahil__: also, as you'll see when using tab, there are more files, like 4 of them for each version but you only need to specify those i wrote down since the autoremove command will take care of the rest.18:48
voilahellos18:48
jakesahiri tried that but when i set proxy my internet is not working??_wilee-nilee18:49
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Lustvaniawanna learn bout ubuntu server18:49
voilaany good messenger for lan ??18:49
X-Sleepy-Xvoila: pidgin and the bonjour protocol18:49
huckleberryreisio: *sighs about all this philosophical sighing*18:49
Lustvaniadid anyone know good website to learn it?18:49
voilaX-Sleepy-X, work on Lan ??18:49
anoneei am newbie18:49
Lustvaniadid anyone know good website to learn it? << bout ubuntu server18:49
X-Sleepy-Xvoila: i use it at work18:49
anoneesorry that was the room18:50
jakesahiri tried that but when i set proxy my internet is not working?_kumarnew18:50
joshuIs this the right place to create new policy kit rules /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d I'm going to try and disable suspend and hibernate this way18:50
huckleberryLustvania: hm... do you have an aim with that server?18:50
huckleberryLustvania: just learn it, with out aim won't work - it will be boring18:50
voilaokies . thanks18:50
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huckleberryLustvania: you need a cool project :D18:51
Lustvaniayup18:51
X-Sleepy-XLustvania: help.ubuntu.com may give you some information but as huckleberry said you need a goal18:51
huckleberryLustvania: do you have seomthing you want to do? any special kind of server? you could set up an irc server :P18:51
huckleberryLustvania: or mumble (that is some cind of teamspeak - but free. very good if you are playing call of duty or LOL with friends)18:52
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huckleberryLustvania: do you play computer games?18:52
louisdkI've a desktop with an Core 2 Duo CPU at 2Ghz and 2 GB ram. Recently it has just been freezing on me. keyboard and mouse stops reacting and sometimes the screen goes blank. Tested HDD, CPU and RAm, found no errors. Upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 and now it goes freezes when I log in. No problems with live cds. If I SSH to the machine I can see that two processes called Xorg are using 100% and 88% of the CPU and I can't kill them. Any18:52
louisdkone that have and idea of that's wrong. I assume the best thing is just make a fresh install.18:52
Lustvania-_-18:53
Lustvania-_-18:53
Lustvaniayup18:53
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FloodBot1Lustvania: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:53
huckleberryLustvania: that games do you play?18:53
anoneelouisdk it sounds to me like a VGA memory problem18:53
wilee-nileejakesahir, Honestly anything beyond discovering at least that you have a sources list and guessing a proxy I have no idea.18:53
Lustvaniai play dragon nest18:54
wilee-nileeI would help if I had a confident fix. jakesahir18:54
jakesahirok thanks _wilee-nilee ...bye18:54
jakesahirgud night18:54
wilee-nileenight18:54
A1ReconThe power/stand by icon in the top right corner is red right now. When I click it .... I see the "Online Accounts" is in red. Any idea why??18:55
reisiohuckleberry: I'm winded18:55
huckleberryLustvania: do you use teamspeak for it?18:56
anoneewilee-nilee could u please help me with this one? in the right-click menu of empathy's contact list, there's "information" item, upon the first click you get 2 options: local address book or online profile, I clicked on the -empty- local address book and I wanna reset this option so I can select the online profile. can I?18:56
wilee-nileelouisdk, I vote fresh install, I never upgrade.18:56
Lustvaniateamspeak?18:56
wilee-nileeanonee, Never used empathy.18:56
Lustvania<<< i'm new too in mirc18:57
Lustvania1st run18:57
huckleberryLustvania: it is like skype, but for groups. teamspeak is often used be ego shooter players so that they can speak with each other while they play18:57
MonkeyDustLustvania  mirc is for windows, are you in windows now?18:57
Lustvaniayup18:58
Lustvaniawin 718:58
wilee-nileeLustvania, There is #ubuntu-server18:58
anoneeOkay any experienced user to check this for me please? empathy is the default im client for ubuntu...18:58
Morg0thhello, i'm trying to put music files on an iPod from Ubuntu 13.04, but if i run banshee or rhythmbox when the ipod is connected the app freezes (whether it is banshee or rhythbox). any ideas please?18:58
reisioanonee: check what out?18:58
Lustvaniacant enter #ubuntu-server18:58
huckleberryLustvania: ok, anyway. belive me: i want to make a server will not cut it. you will set one up - and then? it will be boring to death. trust me. i tried it :P find something you really want to do and then see if ubuntu server can help you with that18:58
reisioMorg0th: disconnect it first?18:58
Lustvaniadont know why -_-18:58
MonkeyDustLustvania  start with linux for the desktop, to get used to it, then try server18:58
Lustvania^_^ ok all18:59
Lustvaniathx for the advice18:59
Morg0threisio: doesn't work.. even if i connect it once, try to run banshee and disconnect the ipod, banshee won't ever run unless i reboot18:59
varlogtimhello all!18:59
Lustvaniai'll try desktop 1st18:59
reisioMorg0th: run it from a terminal and look at the output18:59
reisiovarlogtim: 'lo18:59
varlogtimAm I able to register my nick on this server?19:00
wilee-nileeanonee, You want to be careful here asking for help when not addressed is a no, no, people answer when they know, and some might not if you abuse the rules.19:00
X-Sleepy-X!register | varlogtim19:00
ubottuvarlogtim: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode19:00
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Lustvania1 question everyone :19:03
Lustvaniai'ts wise? if we run ubuntu server from vmware ?19:03
Lustvaniai mean full run like we run from PC19:04
varlogtimLustvania, Are you asking if there are any known issues to running ubuntu server as a guest machine on vmware?19:04
reisioLustvania: not as wise as running it from metal19:06
ariel`can anybody help me network manager doesnt wanna show up19:06
Lustvaniayes bro19:06
Lustvania-_-19:06
wilee-nilee!who > Lustvania19:06
ubottuLustvania, please see my private message19:06
Shadowandlightwhats the command to make user "me" take ownership of a directory so that i can write to it via ftp?... im trying "sudo chmod 777 /var/www/smf" but its not working19:06
X-Sleepy-XLustvania: It all depends on the scenario...19:07
josehey guys! let's say I set up an ad-hoc network and want a windows client to connect. When the windows person connects, it does not get the network info (such as ip address, default subnet/gateway) automatically, I need to set it up manually. Any ideas on how to get that automatically done?19:07
usr13ariel`: Are you sure it is running?19:07
varlogtimariel: pkill -9 nm-applet && nm-applet &19:07
X-Sleepy-X!chown | Shadowandlight19:07
ubottuShadowandlight: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions19:07
varlogtimShadowandlight: chown user /var/www/smf19:07
Shadowandlightsudo chmod 777 -R /var/www worked19:08
ariel`it aint running i cant connect my laptop to the internet19:08
Shadowandlightis that ok to use? sudo chmod 777 -R /var/www19:08
usr13jose: Ad-hoc connections are done manually, but, if it is always going to connect the same way, you can set it up to do so.19:08
PiciShadowandlight: I wouldn't.19:08
joseusr13: have a clue on how to?19:08
varlogtimShadowandlight: that grants read/write/execute permissions to everyone on that folder.19:08
usr13jose: By manually, I mean that you dont have a dhcp server involved in ad-hoc connections.19:08
huckleberryShadowandlight: you shouldn't do that19:08
Shadowandlighti want to limit it to "me"19:09
Shadowandlightso use chown "user" /var/www ?19:09
joseusr13: oh, didn't know about the DHCP part. will check and see what I can do. Thanks a bunch!19:09
usr13jose: I suppose the easiest way is to set up a script. You caould just do it in /etc/rc.local19:09
huckleberryShadowandlight: usually, you make an own user for the webserver - that's what i heard to be best practice19:09
huckleberryShadowandlight: will the server be accessbile from internet?19:10
varlogtimShadowandlight: Ideally you should make an FTP user and run "chown -R ftpuser /var/www/sfw19:10
usr13jose: What ever commands you use to set it up just place in the /etc/rc.local file.19:10
Shadowandlightok.. yes it will be internet accessible eventually varlogtim & huckleberry19:10
_kaizdaUbuntu Sucks!19:10
joseusr13: so, if I set up a DHCP server on my machine will people be able to connect and automatically get an IP address and the other configs?19:10
Shadowandlightso i used sudo chown eveserver -R /var/www19:10
Shadowandlight"eveserver" is the user19:10
hal14450Shadowandlight, is there any particular reason you want to use FTP?19:11
usr13Shadowandlight: A normal user is ok. (That's the way I do it, and I have the files served from the users /home/)19:11
Shadowandlightfor SMF to change permissions on the file19:11
X-Sleepy-X_kaizda: Would you care to elaborate?19:11
aaron_i messed up removing Desktop Environents how can i remove them all and install only the default ones that came with ubuntu 12.0419:11
usr13Shadowandlight: To me, it is simplier and easier that way.19:11
Shadowandlightafter SMF installs i think i can turn FTP off19:11
varlogtimShadowandlight: This site has pretty decent tutorials: http://www.howtoforge.com/howtos/ftp19:12
_kaizdaX-Sleepe-X: <checking dict>19:12
usr13jose: I don't think you can do that with ad-hoc connections, (because ad-hoc connections are normally just one-to-one).19:13
aaron_window managers are *** and the system is lagging as hell19:13
huckleberryaaron_: aaron_ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntuprecise19:13
_kaizdaX_Sleepe_X: it is nice though19:13
aaron_huckleberry, yeah the thing is i see the DE ubuntu and gnome19:13
huckleberryaaron_: so?19:14
usr13jose: But to answer your question, yes, if you set up a DHCP server on your machine, yes, others will be able to connect and automatically receilve IP addresses and all necessary configurations for network connections.19:14
aaron_huckleberry, and i had different shells and windows managers19:14
aaron_huckleberry, but its lagging19:14
joseusr13: that's basically it, thank you! :)19:14
aaron_huckleberry, and the windows are blinking sometimes19:14
usr13Ok19:14
wilee-nileeaaron_, What have you done in detail please, and what is the end goal?19:14
vidarneif you have 2 network cards how can you set what card shal be defult card ?19:15
usr13jose: But beware, you should only have one DHCP server per network, (or subnet).19:15
huckleberryvidarne: there is no default card19:15
aaron_wilee-nilee, i removed some desktop environments xubuntu,xfce,openbox etc and now i want to use the default DE that came with 12.0419:15
joseusr13: how is so?19:15
hal14450vidarne, yes19:15
usr13jose: You mean why only one DHPC server?19:16
gordonjcpjose: what might happen if you had two DHCP servers responding to requests?19:16
huckleberryvidarne: you connect a network cable and that's it :) do you have a specific problem?19:16
joseoh, I got you now19:16
hal14450vidarne, my bad you're asking how19:16
usr13jose: Why don't you tell us exactly what it is you want to do, and maybe we can give you more specific advise.19:16
vidarnei got a problem bow as i have not been using my other lan cards and temspeak server works fine, but now when i activated the other one it uses lan ip from econd card so the nat from firewall is not right19:16
hal14450it depends on the setup really there a re a few ways to do it19:17
daftykinsvidarne: teamspeak's config will likely have a way to choose which IP it listens on19:17
wilee-nileeaaron_, Desktops have to be removed in meta lists go to the psycho cats website and find the correct list, put it on a gedit, then run it. Since you have partially removed stuff it will error, you then remove the listed errors from the gedit and rinse and repeat till it removes all19:17
joseusr13: so I'll be at home with 15 people, and I want them to connect to my ad-hoc network (my laptop) and get files from a webserver that is already set up. I don't want to do it via my LAN because I don't want to give them my password. But, the problem arises when they try to connect and have to manually set up the IP config to be able to successfully connect19:18
aaron_wilee-nilee, also i installed the gnome DE with sudo apt-get install gnome19:18
usr13vidarne: Change  your network configuration so that your network interfaces use proper IP addresses.19:18
aaron_wilee-nilee, the things are ***19:18
usr13jose: You have a wireless router.  Right?19:18
joseusr13: I do19:18
aaron_wilee-nilee, also the thing is that i don't get you19:18
wilee-nileeaaron_, If this " ***" is a blocked swear word stop that.19:18
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huckleberryaaron_: just before you start reomving all kind of stuff- do you use wiki for internet connection, or lan cable?19:18
crankharderdoes upstart have a general config?19:18
usr13jose: What is the make and model?19:19
wilee-nileeaaron_, You might just reinstall then.19:19
huckleberryaaron_: wifi i wanted to say19:19
aaron_i don't try a word i am just writing ***19:19
vidarnei need to have 2 network card now on same subnet 192.168.1.0  lancard 1 192.168.1.105 and lan card2 192.168.1.106 as i need to route trafick from ip 192.168.1.106 to a vpn tun19:19
aaron_the stars19:19
joseusr13: it's a TP-Link router, don't know the model. The point is I don't want to give them access to the router, that's why I'm making the ad-hoc19:19
aaron_huckleberry, lan cable19:19
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wilee-nileeaaron_, drama for me gets a free ignore.19:19
usr13jose: What I'm getting at is that what you are wanting to do can be done though the Wireless Router, (especially with dd-wrt).19:19
aaron_wilee-nilee, this is for sure not a drama i will definitely fix it19:20
aaron_wilee-nilee, i just like joking around sometimes19:20
joseusr13: but when I move I won't have the same files19:20
huckleberryaaron_: ok :) - because sometimes when you start to remove all kind of stuff you suddenly may remove the wifi stuff - and that's bad. but if ouy have cable - no problem19:20
usr13jose: Find out if your router is dd-wrt compatable, if it is, install it and you will have the capabilities you want.19:20
joseok, thanks!19:21
usr13jose: Files? What files?19:21
joseusr13: the ones I'll be sharing on my webserver :)19:21
huckleberryaaron_: aaron_ what you can do is to remove gnome19:21
huckleberryaaron_: and the do "apt-get autoremove"19:21
aaron_huckleberry, but i need 1 DE right?19:22
huckleberryaaron_: autoremove will remove packeages that were installed because they were needed for an other package19:22
huckleberryaaron_: no19:22
aaron_huckleberry, i don't get it19:22
usr13jose: That's ok..   What you need is a wifi router that has the capabilites for segregating network connections.19:22
huckleberryaaron_: if you remove all the X stuff (X = grphic server) you will have command line only - that is the very minimal you can get. the you install the DE you like again, and you're good19:23
joseusr13: got it. Thanks!19:23
aaron_huckleberry, i am confused i also install the gnome shell19:23
huckleberryaaron_: ok, let us clarify things: you want to go back to normal, right?19:23
usr13jose: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Tutorials19:23
aaron_huckleberry, yes19:24
vidarneif you ahve 2 lan cards is it only one of them so shall have gatway in /etc/network/interface file ?19:25
huckleberryaaron_: ok, there are tree ways you can do that. 1) reinstall - the easy way, but you won't learn anything and there is no pain in it, so it is not fun either :P 2) start to remove package by package until you have what you want - this might take some time 3) throw away all DEs - everthing. you will end up with command line. then you type "sudo apt-get install the-desktop-you-want" and you're set19:26
aaron_huckleberry, i will go with number 119:27
aaron_:D19:27
huckleberryaaron_: ok :)19:27
aaron_huckleberry, i've experienced pain19:27
mudkip908pain is fun19:27
tmmunqyeah, you can do a minimal install. best way to go19:27
usr13vidarne: Please restate your question.19:27
aaron_i laugh when i pain19:27
aaron_pain is funny19:27
aaron_i want to reinstall the gnome DE19:28
huckleberryaaron_: to be honest19:28
aaron_how can i do that19:28
huckleberryaaron_: since you choose to reinstall you have nothing to lose19:28
tmmunqgnome-shell? good question, whats the meta-package for that?19:29
huckleberryaaron_: take 30 minutes and reomve all kind of packeges, maybe you are lucky :P19:29
vidarnewhen you ahve 2 network card on same subnet 192.168.1.0 is it only one of the cards so shall have set gatways in /etc/networking/interface  or both of them ?19:29
huckleberryaaron_: so there is at least some fun it ;)19:29
X-Sleepy-X!nounity19:29
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic19:29
honestlyI have ubuntu 12.04.2 with (as far as I know) normal settings. But one thing in my sources doesn't update, here's a paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933858/. I checked around and couldn't find out how to fix that, none of the things I found seemed to apply. anyone got a tip?19:30
usr13vidarne: What is your end goal?  (What exactly are you trying to do?)19:30
vidarneits only for trying to understand bether networking atm, before i start to try seting up one lan card 192.168.1.106 to go throu a vpn (tun0)19:31
usr13honestly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/94082519:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 940825 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt-get update reporting "not acceptable"" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:33
daftykinsvidarne: i think NIC bonding would work differently than just having two interfaces on the same network19:33
honestlyusr13: I get a 404, not 406, so I don't think that's it19:35
p0wn3dNIC bonding has two modes in Linux. failover and active/passive19:35
karolyHello world!19:36
guest_01a-hoy-hoy19:36
usr13honestly: Can you ping de.archive.ubuntu.com from this computer?19:37
usr13honestly: ping -c3 de.archive.ubuntu.com19:37
X-Sleepy-Xhonestly: try changing de.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com19:37
honestlyusr13: yes, it works fine19:37
honestlyThere is a Packages.gz where apt is looking for /Packages19:37
nogoodexit19:38
usr13honestly: As X-Sleepy-X suggests change to main ubuntu archive and try again.19:38
guest_01anyone know if wayland and mir will continue to support x forwarding. all the answer i found were vague.19:39
usr13honestly: "Changed to the main Ubuntu repo, then ran 'apt-get update'   (From https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/940825 )19:39
ubottuUbuntu bug 940825 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt-get update reporting "not acceptable"" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:39
honestlyhmm, that did it19:43
honestlythanks!19:43
tubbois there a way to "give" some user access to `shutdown -h now` the machine?19:46
tubboor is that purely a root/sudo-level thing?19:46
geniitubbo: You could add a specific line in sudoers file just for it19:46
tubboah ok19:46
Pumpkin-you can give people access to run arbitary commands as arbitary users via sudo config19:46
MonkeyDusttubbo  command: visudo19:47
motaka2hello is there any reason to use mint ?19:47
MonkeyDustmotaka2  yes: if you prefer it19:47
OkitainHi guys. My touchpad doesn't work after an upgrade and erasing my xorg.conf for technical reasons. I can't find it in lspci/lsusb, and synaptik doesn't find it either. In Mageia that I run in dualboot, it works fine. What can the issue be?19:47
motaka2MonkeyDust: I use u12.04, it runs slow and I hear strange voices from hard disk, Should I switch to mint?19:48
tubbogenii: oh yeah, there we go19:48
tubbothanks man :)19:48
motaka2how can I uninstall jedit ?19:49
mumpitze1apt-get remove jedit. provided you have it installed via apt19:49
MonkeyDustmotaka2  if you hear strange voices, it's not technical but mental19:49
brandon_Hiya guys19:50
MonkeyDustmotaka2  use a live usb stick to try mint, see if you like it more19:50
motaka2MonkeyDust: how can I uninstall jedit, I want to install the new version19:50
X-Sleepy-X!mint19:50
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org19:50
mumpitze1motaka2: how did you install jedit?19:50
MonkeyDustmotaka2  how you would install any other program, if it's in the repos19:50
MonkeyDustah, uninstall19:50
* genii slides tubbo a coffee19:51
timssHi. Regarding the compromised forums - would it be possible to get sent the hash/salt to the registered email so I could check which password I used? I haven't logged in for ages so I can't remember/I haven't got my password remembered by Lastpass. If this isn't the right channel please do share a relevant email or so that I could use.19:51
X-Sleepy-X!uninstall19:51
ubottuTo learn how to uninstall applications in Ubuntu - please visit http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-delete-remove-software-using-apt-get-command/19:51
wilee-nileetimss, nope19:51
reisioseriously19:52
motaka2mumpitze1: sudo apt-get install jedit19:52
motaka2but I dont know how to remove it19:52
timssIt's frustrating because I have no idea if I used the default generated password or some old (shitty) password..19:52
MonkeyDustmotaka2  replace install with purge19:52
motaka2ok thank you19:52
wilee-nilee!language > tomaw19:53
ubottutomaw, please see my private message19:53
mumpitze1motaka2: then you simply apt-get install jedit  to get the new version of this program if a newer one is actually available in the repos. no need to uninstall anything19:53
wilee-nilee!language > timss19:53
ubottutimss, please see my private message19:53
wilee-nileesorry tomaw19:53
tomawI'll live19:53
wilee-nilee;)19:53
* ikonia mode +q tomaw@freenode/staff/tomaw19:54
reisioheh19:54
* X-Sleepy-X smiles to what just happend19:54
guest_01anyone know why amarok isnt playing when a song is double clicked. goes to the playlist but you gotta hit play19:55
Serpientehey, I know that I can run additional scripts on login if I place them in /etc/ssh/sshrc is there a pendant for logout/ disconnect?19:55
motaka2MonkeyDust: mumpitze1 dont you know why my ubuntu runs slow? my pc is fast on windows19:55
motaka2whats the best place to install manually downloaded aps ?19:57
MonkeyDustmotaka2  these are some tricks I picked up in this channel http://ubuntuone.com/7D0HdIh1JYCAMwAFds8h1i19:57
ikoniamotaka2: which apps? from where ?19:58
wilee-nileemotaka2, you have checked the repos first before downloading?19:58
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jjavaholicso I have unplugged the Sata External HD and plugged it into a system Sata port and was able to read sata Drive but still can't read via  USB interface External Unit what do I need to check now?19:58
ikoniaMonkeyDust: careful putting /tmp in ram and not setting a limit on the size, it can kill your box19:58
Okitainjjavaholic: check the output of lsusb and ls /dev/ |grep sd19:59
geniimotaka2: In the /usr/local   hierarchy isn't bad. Like /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin ... and so on19:59
wilee-nileejjavaholic, does it show in sudo fdisk -l19:59
MonkeyDustikonia  thank you for the tip19:59
motaka2ikonia: new version of jedit19:59
ikoniamotaka2: where did you get it from ? what's wrong with the version in the ubuntu repo ?20:00
motaka2ikonia: I got the jar file from jedit website20:00
jjavaholicit doesn't show up in fdisk -l20:00
ikoniaMonkeyDust: just appending something like size=128M or size=1G to limit it so it can't eat your ram can be more useful to keep some limits in place,20:00
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: try finding it in the repo first by running: apt-cache search jedit20:00
ikoniamotaka2: ok, so it's a jar file, you can put it anywhere you want as it just matters where your CLASSPATH is setup20:01
jjavaholiclsusb: http://pastebin.com/5LpjDzE420:01
kostkonmotaka2, its download page offers a debian package. download that and double click on it20:01
motaka2wilee-nilee: I dont know what a repository is, Once I intalled gedit via sudo apt-get install gedit and it was version 4 and I need version five so I downloaded the jar file from it's website20:01
kostkonmotaka2, gedit or jedit?20:02
wilee-nileemotaka2, All or most OS call a repository for updates and installs20:02
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: which version of ubuntu are you running?20:02
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: in 13.04 jedit is 5.0 i think20:03
jjavaholicand ls /dev/ | grep sd results in this: http://pastebin.com/0MD4FUs920:03
kostkonmotaka2, just download the debian file. easier than using the java based installer20:03
jjavaholicthree partitions on main OS drive. sda20:03
motaka2kostkon: I cant find the debian file20:04
motaka2kostkon: jEdit20:05
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: I am using 12.0420:05
kostkonmotaka2, here's the file http://sourceforge.net/projects/jedit/files/jedit/5.1.0/jedit_5.1.0_all.deb/download20:06
kostkonmotaka2, from here http://jedit.org/index.php?page=download&platform=unix#option_two20:06
goddardi am trying to change apache document route for default to /home/goddard/Web/20:06
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: what does "apt-cache policy jedit" give you?20:06
goddardbut i am getting 403 error20:06
kostkon!version jedit20:07
kostkon:/20:07
nantoudoes starting an app with >>>http_proxy=";"<<< render useless the possible edits to /etc/environment ?20:07
kostkon!find jedit raring20:07
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: what should I do next to this?20:07
ubottuFound: jedit20:07
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: what should I do next to this?  http://codepaste.net/e4zk1920:07
motaka2kostkon: thank you20:07
kostkonmotaka2, np20:08
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: run: apt-cache policy jedit" give you?20:08
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: if apt-cache policy jedit gives you a version number of 5 then you just need to run sudo apt-get install jedit20:09
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: http://codepaste.net/mh91ih20:09
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: I see, never mind then.. :)20:10
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: thanks any way I learnt something new in this world of linux at least20:10
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: I would probably go with option number 2 on this page http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download just in order to recieve updates on jedit through sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade20:12
motaka2kostkon: !version doesnt work20:14
kostkonmotaka2, !version is only for the bot here20:15
kostkone.g.20:15
X-Sleepy-X!version20:15
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »20:15
kostkonyeap20:15
X-Sleepy-X:)20:15
Serp3nt.20:18
Serp3ntany1 there?20:19
gordonjcp!anyone | Serp3nt20:19
ubottuSerp3nt: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:19
Serp3ntk fine20:19
Serp3ntdoes anybody know how to leave this channel?20:19
gordonjcpyou can't20:20
Serp3nt:(20:20
hodappuse /part or /close20:20
gordonjcponce you've joined the channel it's impossible to leave20:20
hodappforgive gordonjcp, sometimes he confuses #ubuntu with #hotelcalifornia20:20
rick33hi20:20
peyamhi20:20
rick33i have xchat-otr installed, how do i use it?20:21
peyamI dunno20:21
peyamgoogle20:21
rick33me neither20:21
rick33i googled20:21
X-Sleepy-Xpreferably with a computer, i'd say20:21
rick33very useful20:22
motaka2kostkon: Ah sorry20:22
motaka2So cant anyone tell me whu my ubuntu is so slow ?20:22
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: Thanks for your soloution20:22
motaka2it sees to be the best20:22
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: yw20:22
varlogtimmotaka2: What version?20:23
varlogtimpost results from top -bn1 |head -n 520:23
varlogtimmotaka: "top -bn1 |head -n 5"20:23
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: perhaps you need to install new graphic drivers in order to make it go faster? what graphics card do you have?20:24
varlogtimOr use LXDE instead of unity20:25
goddardi tried the userdir module20:25
goddardi still get error 40320:25
tjbiddleHey guys - Not ubuntu specific - But should my program write verbose output to STDERR or STDOUT?20:25
varlogtimMy vote is STDERR20:25
tjbiddlevarlogtim: May I ask why? (I'm fine with either - just want to know for future ref. on the convention)20:26
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varlogtimSTDOUT should be for the output of the applications purpose. Verbose logging is additional data that doesn't have anything to do with the purpose of the application.20:26
tjbiddlevarlogtim: Makes perfect sense, thanks :-)20:26
varlogtimImagine this... for a real world example...20:27
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: yes I think it has something to do with graphics, my graphic card is xfx 9 series20:27
hodappstderr is for errors.20:27
hodappverbose should be to stdout, and optional.20:27
peterrooneyLogging should be to a file, progress and verbosity should be to stderr.  varlogtim hit the nail on the head.20:28
hodappThe convention with nearly every program is that stderr is for errors, not for verbose output, and that it's the user's choice, not yours, whether logging is to a file or to stdout.20:29
varlogtimIt is nice to be able to do this: ./script > output_file 2>verbose_data.log20:29
peterrooneyadding a verbosity option should not, for example, change pipeline behaviour.20:29
pbuckleyAnyone running ubuntu 13.10 have an issue with no bass in their audio?20:29
varlogtimSay you have an application that updates a status file that something else reads from. Say it is in production and you need verbose output but without affecting the output of the script (which will break the status file) --- printing to stderr will give you the option to redirect the output...20:30
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: if you run: software-properties-gtk   the go to "Additional Drivers". Do you see a list of drivers to choose from?20:31
varlogtimAlso, lots of apps print to stderr --- ssh for example, (I beleive) prints the password: prompt to stderr20:31
pbuckleyvarlogtim: if you are using passwords with ssh, it is an err ;)20:31
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: Should I run that in terminal20:31
motaka2?20:31
X-Sleepy-X!13.10 | pbuckley20:31
mudkip908motaka2: terminal or alt-f220:31
ubottupbuckley: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+120:31
tjbiddleThanks varlogtim, peterrooney, & hodapp :-) I think I'll lean towards stderr - I had heard verbose out put should go to that in the past, but didn't understand why. Much appreciated!20:32
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: I got some output in terminal and a window poped up20:32
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: Open the tab in that window called "Additional Drivers"20:33
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: THERE IS NO THAB WITH THE CAPTION YOU SAID20:33
bekksmotaka2: We can read lowercase too :)20:34
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: Sorry, my bad. I forgot that you use 12.0420:34
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: that's kind of you to care for my issue20:34
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: I can't recall excatly where you find it in 12.04 but perhaps you can run jockey-gtk20:36
randomaussiei seem to have broken the display drivers for my laptop's own dispolay driver while using an external video card is there a way i can make ubuntu redetect it and auto install the driver for it20:37
antikytheraexit20:38
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: try searching in the dash for additional drivers20:38
high_fiver_randomaussie: Which model of external video card?20:38
motaka2i ran jokey.. and I see additional drivers20:38
randomaussiei'm just talking about hte screens...20:38
randomaussiethe built in one wont go above 640x48020:39
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: you could try to install the latest version of a display driver from there if there are any display drivers showing...20:40
motaka2there are some showing and the recommended one hase a green blob on the left20:40
netlarHow rolling releases for Ubuntu been shelved?20:41
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: i believe the green blob are for the activated ones20:41
goddardhow can i change the owner of a ssytem link?20:42
ikoniagoddard: system link ?20:42
bekksgoddard: Whats a system link?20:43
icerootsymlink :)20:43
X-Sleepy-X!chown | goddard20:43
ubottugoddard: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions20:43
morganhelockersymbolic link20:43
bekksThen the answer is "no".20:43
ikoniayou don't change symlinks20:43
ikoniayou change the target20:43
bekksChanging the owner of a symlink is pointless, since the permissions are 0777 - always.20:44
syn-ackyep, the permission of the symlink is meaningless, its the target that matters.20:44
zeestI opened an application, it didn't show up in the bar in the right(dock? sidebar?) and I minimized the app. Since I can't see it on the sidebar, how do I restore it?20:45
motaka2X-Sleepy-X: yes thats it so I have a driver installed and yet it runs slow?20:45
X-Sleepy-Xzeest: Alt+Tab ?20:45
auronandacezeest: you mean left20:45
zeestauronandace: Yes, sorry20:45
X-Sleepy-Xthat's right...20:45
zeestX-Sleepy-X: No showing up there either :/20:46
X-Sleepy-Xmotaka2: you probably need to reboot or log out and back in again20:46
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X-Sleepy-Xzeest: if you open gnome-system-monitor can you find the program running there?20:48
zeestX-Sleepy-X: Yes20:49
zeestX-Sleepy-X: I killed it and opened again, now it is running fine, and is in the sidebar. Thanks20:49
zeestWhat is that bar called BTW?20:49
X-Sleepy-Xzeest: :)20:50
syn-ackthe unity dock?20:50
zeestsyn-ack: Probably, thanks20:50
robertzaccourWhat's a good network manager for Ubuntu?20:50
bertogattihi all, my startup applications as defined in gnome-session-properties don't seem to work (they work in kde and xfce)20:50
bekksrobertzaccour: The already installed Network-Manager.20:50
syn-ackrobertzaccour: Network Manager.20:50
varlogtimrobertzaccour wicd --- I have been using that and love it.20:51
bekksrobertzaccour: Whats wrong with NM for you? :)20:51
varlogtimI had issues with Network Manager20:51
varlogtimIt was situation on a MacBook Pro20:52
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robertzaccourbekks: I installed Mate on top of Ubuntu minimal install, doesn't appear to be any network apps there by default.20:53
X-Sleepy-Xbertogatti: can you give an example?20:53
bekksrobertzaccour: Just install ubuntu-desktop then.20:53
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robertzaccourbekks: uh no20:53
robertzaccournetwork-manager not available?20:53
robertzaccourI know its installed20:53
bertogattiok while running gnome-3, i have the startup applications set to start guake when i log in20:53
ikoniarobertzaccour: this is because you are doing a minimal install20:54
bertogattihowever this doesn't happen in gnome3 but works in other environments20:54
ikoniarobertzaccour: this is why I suggested doing a standard install and removing what you don't need20:54
robertzaccourikonia: any recommendations for a network manager?20:54
ikoniathe mate PPA will not have all the dependencies20:54
ikoniarobertzaccour: network-manager is the standard one20:54
robertzaccourikonia: I'm learning, I'll feel ahead once I got it all here :)20:54
bekksrobertzaccour: You already asked that and you already got your answers :)20:54
robertzaccourbekks: And I already said it says not available20:55
ikoniarobertzaccour: you're not really learning though, you're making it hard for yourself20:55
robertzaccourikonia: where are all the network dependencies?20:55
ikoniarobertzaccour: what do you mean "where are they" ?20:55
robertzaccourikonia: Yes, I'm learning. I've learned a lot today. Who are you to assume what I haven't learned?20:55
robertzaccourikonia: you said the dependencies aren't there. Where are they?20:56
ikoniarobertzaccour: because you're asking the same style questions from earlier and hitting the issues I warned you of20:56
X-Sleepy-Xbertogatti: hang on, i got it working but im looking for how i did it20:56
ikoniarobertzaccour: so I can only assume you've not grasped/learnt what I was trying to explain earlier20:56
robertzaccourikonia: And I'm learning in the process20:56
bertogattiS-Sleepy-X: thanks20:56
robertzaccourikonia: I have wired internet working just fine, I just need to install an app so I can set up my router.20:57
ikoniarobertzaccour: what has your router got to do with an application ?? it's an external device20:57
bekksrobertzaccour: You dont need any app to setup your router besides a browser to access the web interface,20:57
robertzaccourikonia: I just need a network app that will load. recommend any besides network-manager and wicd?20:58
ikoniarobertzaccour: you don't need a network app to fix your router20:58
sideoneim trying to find a string of *cnn.com/????/* can anyone help me correct for the proper regex?20:58
bekksrobertzaccour: You nheed a browser.20:58
robertzaccourikonia: My router is fine, I just need to connect to it.20:58
ravsterhey all.20:58
robertzaccourbekks: I have a browser20:58
ikoniarobertzaccour: you said you have, you've got wired networking working20:58
ikoniarobertzaccour: so you're already connected20:58
ravsterI can't find grub.cfg in my boot directory.  Any idea where it might be?20:58
robertzaccourikonia: wired yes, but I need to set up wireless20:58
ravsterits a UEFI install20:59
ikoniarobertzaccour: well, I'd use network-manager, is the standard,20:59
robertzaccourikonia: correction: I need a drop-down list to select my router.20:59
ravsterif that changes anything.20:59
robertzaccourikonia: network-manager network-manager: command not found20:59
ikoniarobertzaccour: it's not installed then20:59
robertzaccourikonia: its already the newest version21:00
robertzaccouraccording to terminal21:00
ikoniarobertzaccour: how can it be, if it's not found21:00
robertzaccourikonia: I dunno, but that's what its telling me21:00
ikoniarobertzaccour: what's telling you ?21:01
robertzaccourikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5934135/21:01
ikoniaahhh I see you're trying to laynch it from the command line21:02
X-Sleepy-Xbertogatti: i believe i did something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136559/guake-doesnt-start-when-session-starts21:02
robertzaccourikonia: I'm installing network-config to see how it goes21:02
ikoniarobertzaccour: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager21:02
bertogattiX-Sleepy-X: I'll check it out thank a lot21:02
X-Sleepy-Xbertogatti: Also, I changed the line <property name="gravity">static</property> into <property name="gravity">north</property> in this file /usr/share/guake/guake.glade21:04
MonkeyDustrobertzaccour  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager21:04
islonso, i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 in my wife's pc from an usb. I'm getting a "Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. Try passing init=option to kernel." every time i try booting from the usb. I pressed tab for init options and it shows "/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed ..." any idea or tips?21:04
bertogattiX-Sleepy-X: it works21:05
X-Sleepy-Xbertogatti: Also, I changed the line <property name="gravity">static</property> into <property name="gravity">north</property> in this file /usr/share/guake/guake.glade21:05
daftykinsislon: how did you make the flash drive?21:05
X-Sleepy-Xbertogatti: That will fix the gape in the top21:06
crippledmonkdid you make the install usb on a linux system....21:06
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islondaftykins: i downloaded a usb maker from pendrivelinux.com for windows21:07
bekksislon: How did you create the usb?21:07
robertzaccourthanks ikonia21:07
reisioislon: for what?21:07
islondaftykins: clicked usb-creators -> liveusb install21:07
crippledmonkislon: I've had issues with unetbootin a time or two. I've found "for me" the dd method pretty much always works. All my machines are linux however.21:08
joshuwhere is the config file that store startup applications  set by System > Preference > Startup Applications,21:08
robertzaccourstill not coming up :(21:08
reisioyeah, dd ftw, it's just trickier :p21:08
daftykinsislon: can you verify your image download by hashing it? could be worth wiping the drive then giving it another try21:08
reisiowhich is funny, you'd think those creators would just be dd frontends :p21:08
ikoniastree: what repo are you using21:08
bertogattiX-Sleepy-X: all good now, saves me the trouble of manually opening every time21:08
X-Sleepy-Xbertogatti: :)21:09
islondaftykins: hmm indeed should have checked the hash, will reboot on windows and do that and maybe download some other pendrive creator21:09
crippledmonkdd if=NAME_OF_YOUR_IMAGE.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M     where X in the sdX is your drive. it's usually sdc or sdb and you will most likely need to run it in the terminal with sudo preceeding.21:10
rodrigo91anyone know how i could extra all the data off gb filesystem ot a live cd?21:10
robertzaccourits weird that network manager still isn't opening.21:10
reisiorodrigo91: eh?21:10
rodrigo91extract*21:10
rodrigo91how could i extract all my data from one hard drive to put on a live cd21:11
daftykinsislon: pendrivelinux.com 's 'universal usb installer' might be ok21:11
robertzaccournetwork-manager and wicd won't open :(21:11
reisiorodrigo91: what for21:11
rodrigo91how can i add more space to the live cd21:11
reisiorodrigo91: is it a USB?21:11
bekksrodrigo91: You cant add more space to a live cd.21:12
rodrigo91so what do i do21:12
SolarisBoybut you can build your own live cd21:12
SolarisBoyand put the content you want on it21:12
rodrigo91i aint got a a usb21:12
sereanyone know of any bugs with granule .. it just closes for no reason when i try to load a deck...no error anywhere..not sure why21:12
islondaftykins: yeah that's what i normally use, i think she downloaded the first exe she saw that made sense...21:12
bekksrodrigo91: Just tell us about your actual problem.21:12
SolarisBoyprobably more than you really want to do -21:12
X-Sleepy-Xsere: not even if you start it from the terminal?21:13
rodrigo91its started with network manager but i cant fix that21:13
robertzaccourI can't open network-manager or wicd. Any suggestions?21:13
sereX-Sleepy-X: tried that... but when it closes it logs me out of X21:13
bekks!details | rodrigo9121:13
ubotturodrigo91: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:13
daftykinsislon: sorry i didn't see your first highlight when you said that - heh - let me know how you get on21:13
X-Sleepy-Xsere: start it in screen and the use screen -r to get it back21:14
rodrigo91ok have it your way21:14
MonkeyDustrobertzaccour try nm-applet21:14
rodrigo91i have a problem with network manager i started trying to install mifiwifi but it somwhow got corrupted and now i dont have internet for my laptop21:15
robertzaccourMonkeyDust: thanks :) now only problem is its all grayed out.21:15
bekksrodrigo91: And which problem which network manager do you have?21:15
rodrigo91from 12.0421:16
bekksrodrigo91: And whats the problem with network manager?21:16
sereX-Sleepy-X: ok i will try that..thanks alot21:16
MonkeyDustrobertzaccour  try ifup eth0 or eth121:16
rodrigo91its just wont show up at all i dont know whats wrong21:16
robertzaccourhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5934182/21:16
bekksrodrigo91: Did you checked wether it is installed?21:17
robertzaccourMonkeyDust: huh?21:17
rodrigo91yes i tried reinstalling it to21:17
rodrigo91nothing helped21:17
PostfixHelphello21:17
MonkeyDustrobertzaccour  how come it's so troublesome, it should work out of the box21:17
bekksrodrigo91: Are you able to start it from command line?21:17
robertzaccourI'm gonna try rebooting21:18
rodrigo91i havent tried that21:18
rodrigo91how does that go21:18
bekksrodrigo91: run nm-applet from the command line.21:18
PostfixHelpI need some help with postfix.21:18
FishsceneIs there a channel for the Ubuntu Edge Phone?21:19
ikonia#ubuntu-touch21:19
X-Sleepy-X!details | PostfixHelp21:19
ubottuPostfixHelp: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:19
reisioPostfixHelp: but your nick...21:19
FishsceneThank you, ikonia21:19
rodrigo91im on a live cd plus it would take time to get to the real thing21:20
PostfixHelpI just installed it, and everything seems fine, but I've had a hard time finding a way to read incoming mail/send it.21:20
PostfixHelpFrom what I understand, you use the mail command?21:20
bekksPostfixHelp: Did you configure postfix?21:20
PostfixHelpyeah.21:21
ikoniaPostfixHelp: you need an mail client to send mail / read mail21:21
PostfixHelpwhat is a good one.21:21
PostfixHelpit only needs to be local21:21
PostfixHelpI don't need IMAP/POP321:21
PostfixHelp*what is a good one?21:21
bekksPostfixHelp: You need IMAP/POP3 for reading/sending email.21:21
X-Sleepy-X!thunderbird21:22
ubottuThunderbird is a free email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox (both by the Mozilla Foundation). To make Thunderbird links open in Firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042721:22
ikoniaPostfixHelp: are you sending mail to real system users on your mail server ?21:22
PostfixHelpyeah.21:22
PostfixHelpon different servers.21:23
ikoniawhat do mean on different servers ?21:23
ikoniaPostfixHelp: on the server getting the mail, are they system users ?21:23
PostfixHelpsending to gmail addresses, etc.21:23
PostfixHelpikonia: yes21:23
ikoniathen why are you trying to read mail on your server if you're sending to gmail21:23
X-Sleepy-Xtelnet localhost 25 EHLO.... :)21:23
ikoniathey won't be hosted/held on your server, they will be held on gmail21:24
PostfixHelpI have a local server, but I will be sending mail to other people's email addresses21:24
PostfixHelpon different servers21:24
PostfixHelplike gmail21:24
bekksPostfixHelp: So you need an email client, an IMAP/POP3 server, and your postfix server.21:25
ikoniaPostfixHelp: so why are you trying to read mail on your server if you are sending it to remote servers ?21:25
X-Sleepy-X!thunderbird | Perhaps you'd like to use this client PostfixHelp21:25
ubottuPerhaps you'd like to use this client PostfixHelp: Thunderbird is a free email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox (both by the Mozilla Foundation). To make Thunderbird links open in Firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042721:25
PostfixHelpwhere does the unix mail command fit into this.21:26
rodrigo91is there any good file hosting sites21:26
PostfixHelp?21:26
bekksPostfixHelp: Into "email client".21:26
ikoniaPostfixHelp: it doens't21:26
ikoniaPostfixHelp: you are sending mail to remote servers, you can't read them on your local server as they are stored remotely21:26
PostfixHelpno, but I'll be receiving mail on my local server21:26
PostfixHelpAren't those stored locally?21:26
ikoniaPostfixHelp: right, so will the email addresses be system users on your server ?21:27
PostfixHelpikonia: yes21:27
ikoniaPostfixHelp: what format have you told it to deliver in ?21:27
teskitoe__Hi, I'm on EC2 and have multiverse enabled but "sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer" still gives error "no installation candidate". Any tips?21:27
rodrigo91anybody know how i could resize a partition21:28
bekksrodrigo91: Using gparted. But you cant resize a live cd.21:28
ikoniagparted21:28
islondaftykins: it's working now, it was the usb installer. thanks for your help!21:28
rodrigo91no i mean my other patition the one that has my things in it21:28
bekksrodrigo91: Create a backup, and use gparted afterwards.21:29
rodrigo91how do i create a backup21:29
peyamuse gparted in live cd if you wana change something that is alreadt mounted21:29
X-Sleepy-Xteskitoe__: have you enabled the multiverse repository?21:29
bekks!backup | rodrigo9121:29
ubotturodrigo91: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning21:29
PostfixHelpikonia: /var/mail/user21:30
teskitoe__X-Sleepy-X, yes I have in /etc/apt/sources.list (uncommented all 4 lines). I'm on ubuntu precise21:30
X-Sleepy-Xteskitoe__: and you ran sudo apt-get update afterwards?21:30
lxuser0713fd21:31
lxuser0713dsf21:31
lxuser0713hey i have a problem with dm-crypt/luks. i have add a new passwort but i have not type in the right keys for my new passwort. i dont know what is the new password now and i have deleted my old passwort..... can i add a new passwort without using any luks password? im logged in right now in the system which is encrypted21:32
rodrigo91so which of those utilities do i use21:33
teskitoe__X-Sleepy-X, nope! that must be it. running now. thx21:33
teskitoe__X-Sleepy-X, that did it21:33
X-Sleepy-Xteskitoe__: :)21:33
daftykinsislon: no problem :) glad to hear it21:33
HomelessSantaHowdy all, by any chance does anyone know how to get the wallpaper plugin working in Compiz?!?21:35
reisioHomelessSanta: turn it ze on!21:37
mojtabaHi, I am trying to install virtualbox, but It says "No suitable module for running kernel found21:38
mojtaba" after the installation and says fail. I am using ubuntu 13.0421:38
mojtabaDoes anybody know what should I do?21:38
k1lmojtaba: make sure the right kernel headers are installed21:38
mojtabak1l: How can I check that?21:38
HomelessSantareisio, When it's on still doesn't change the wallpaper when changing the virtual desktop. :(21:39
X-Sleepy-X!headers | mojtaba21:39
ubottumojtaba: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages21:39
mojtabaX-Sleepy-X: how can I find what is my current linux-header and what should I install? (I am newbie)21:40
k1lmojtaba: "uname -a" and then look with "dpkg -l linux-headers* | grep ii21:40
k1l"21:40
reisioHomelessSanta: it's possible nautilus is controlling the desktop, you might have to disable that pref21:41
mojtabak1l: it's current is: 3.5.0-28-generic #48-Ubuntu21:42
HomelessSantareisio, Sounds like I'll be getting a headache in a while. lol21:43
mojtabak1l: The problem is that, I have installed 3.8. ... before and when booting up the OS, the display is not working. (showing dots.) I am using Dell Studio 155521:43
mojtabak1l: Do you which one I should install?21:43
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k1lmojtaba: see my second command. that will list your installed headers21:45
garage00Hi, is there a way to skip kernel update? ( i.e.  *.*.45 to *.*.49 ).   My other machine is lagging behind from unuse and I was hoping not to have to go through each update step21:45
ikoniagarage00: it should just update to current21:46
mojtabak1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934270/21:46
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mojtabak1l: When I boot using these ones, the display just shows some dots.21:47
mojtabak1l: But when I use kernel 3.5, it is working normally.21:47
k1lmojtaba: that are no headers for your kernel. so install "linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic"21:48
garage00ikonia: looks like I'll have to verify that in another few weeks, the older machine is updating to *.49, but on my workstation *.51 is the latest update21:48
mojtabak1l: could you please give me the command to install the header?21:48
holsteingarage00: the different releases have different currently maintained releases21:48
k1lsudo apt-get install packagename21:49
holsteingarage00: 12.04's kernel is not the same version as 13.0421:49
k1lwhere packagename is linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic21:49
garage00holstein, both machines run precise21:49
holsteingarage00: when you update them, they will get the current version.. nothing about that should take a few weeks21:49
thunder-stormHello everybody21:51
mojtabak1l: it says: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic21:51
mojtabaE: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"21:51
garage00holstein: I'll check again after the update, currently running update to .49 on less updated machine21:51
holstein!headers21:51
ubottuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages21:51
thunder-stormHow its possible to restore the mouse speed-settings in Ubuntu 12.04 to default?21:51
k1lmojtaba: use tabcompletion21:51
Henix879Real quick question: does ubuntu have drivers for this netowrk card? http://amzn.to/19y8Vzr21:52
holsteingarage00: you run "sudo apt-get update" first, to refresh the cache.. then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:52
mojtabak1l: it just has 3.8 in the list21:52
X-Sleepy-X-lowlatency - Linux kernel headers for version 3.8.0 on x86/x86_6421:52
k1lmojtaba: so the kernel is from an old release?21:52
mojtabaholstein: could you please give me the complete command?21:53
X-Sleepy-X:S21:53
mojtabak1l: yes21:53
mojtabaI think21:53
holsteinHenix879: ubuntu really doenst have any drivers.. the linux kernel includes drivers, and ubuntu includes installable drivers in the repos.. you can just try the live CD and see how the device works first-hand21:53
holsteinmojtaba: thats it, friend21:53
holsteinmojtaba: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:53
Henix879I'm asking if drivers are readily available for it21:53
garage00hostein: thanks, but I have no plans of using non-LTS21:53
X-Sleepy-Xk1l: i don't seem to find 3.8.0-2821:53
X-Sleepy-Xk1l: only -2721:54
holsteingarage00: sorry, i dont recall suggesting *any* particular version21:54
holsteinHenix879: and im suggesting, a live CD will tell you that21:54
Henix879Because my current network card requires me to go through hell and back just to get it functional, and I'm considering getting the one I just linked21:54
mojtabaholstein: now I am running ubuntu 13.0421:54
holsteinmojtaba: as i stated, 13.04 will have different kernels than 12.0421:55
garage00holstein: sorry, but doesn't dist-upgrade upgrade to ringtail?21:55
mojtabaBut the problem is that with new kernel my display is just showing dot dot screen. (Dell Studio 1555)21:55
holsteingarage00: no21:55
garage00ok21:55
mojtabaholstein: But the problem is that with new kernel my display is just showing dot dot screen. (Dell Studio 1555)21:55
zykotick9!dist-upgrade | garage0021:56
ubottugarage00: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.21:56
holsteingarage00: dist-upgrade, which you *should* and can research before running, upgrades the packages, like you are trying to do21:56
garage00holstein: thanks, perfect definition21:56
mojtabaholstein: hello21:57
brandon_hi21:57
holsteinmojtaba: if an older kernel is working, i would just use it. and keep checking back after upgrading in the future21:57
reisiohi brandon_21:58
mojtabaholstein: Will the command you told me to run remove the current kernel?21:58
mojtabaholstein: Because if it removes the current kernel, I can not restart my computer anymore. :(21:58
holsteinmojtaba: you should have backups, regardless.. but i have not shared anything that will remove any packages21:59
holsteinmojtaba: if you want the headers, i would run "sudo apt-get update" and refer to21:59
holstein!headers | mojtaba21:59
ubottumojtaba: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages21:59
HomelessSantareisio, No problem I ended up getting it to work.22:00
reisioHomelessSanta: yeah?22:00
reisioand are you going to tell the IRC log for posterity?22:00
fbdystangHi, I just installed 12.04 LTS server onto a sabertooth with UEFI. I get an error"invalid arch independent ELF magic". Please advise22:00
mojtabaholstein: when I run sudo apt-get update, it says: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)22:00
mojtabaE: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/22:00
mojtabaE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)22:00
mojtabaE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?22:00
mojtaba"22:00
holstein!paste | mojtaba22:01
ubottumojtaba: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:01
mojtabaWHAT SHOULD I DO???22:01
fbdystangmojtaba: are  you root?22:01
holsteinmojtaba: read, and do what it says.. "is another process using it?".. close the other package managers22:01
HomelessSantareisio, I don't know what you mean.22:01
mojtabaholstein: I guess I must restart the computer22:02
X-Sleepy-Xmojtaba: update, upgrade, dist-upgrade and install will _not_ remove the old kernel _unless_ it says so where it promts you for "Y/n"22:02
mojtabaholstein: What do you mean by "you need the accompanying -dev packages"?22:02
mojtabaX-Sleepy-X: Thanks22:02
holsteinmojtaba: i dont recall saying that22:02
mojtabaholstein: mojtaba: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages22:03
holsteinmojtaba: thats the bot link, friend.. you should try the first command22:03
mojtabaholstein: I should just run: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)22:04
mojtaba?22:04
X-Sleepy-Xmojtaba: yes22:04
mojtabaX-Sleepy-X: holstein: Thank you all. I must restart.22:04
holsteinmojtaba: after running "sudo apt-get update"22:04
mojtabaholstein: sure. Thanks man22:04
garage00holstein: solved, my bad, should have ran update manually before installing the updates22:05
holsteingarage00: cheers22:05
rodrigo91so what would happen if i clicked copy would it copy all my files to another partition22:06
holsteinrodrigo91: in what context?22:06
rodrigo91in a save as much as i can context22:07
w4pmive been increasingly annoyed with apt lately, it has outdated versions of most everything important22:07
fbdystangHi, I just installed 12.04 LTS server onto a sabertooth with UEFI. I get an error"invalid arch independent ELF magic". Please advise22:07
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reisiow4pm: no it hasn't22:07
w4pmyou cant install vagrant, node.js, erlang, couchdb, mongodb, etc etc because apt has super outdated versions22:07
holsteinrodrigo91: not following.. you are trying to make a backup?22:07
reisiow4pm: pick one and tell me which version you want22:08
w4pmthe latest22:08
w4pmvagrant22:08
reisiolateset isn't a version22:08
reisioversions are made up of numbers and sometimes letters22:08
w4pmmaybe i'm doing something wrong?22:08
rodrigo91no i just wanna copy it to another partition22:08
holsteinw4pm: "sudo apt-get update" updates the package cache22:08
reisiow4pm: that'd be my guess22:08
holsteinw4pm: if you are "annoyed" with pacagke versions, that has nothing to do with apt.. that is the sources22:09
rodrigo91holstein would that save the hassle22:09
w4pmthe fact that no one is updating their sources is a bad sign22:09
holsteinrodrigo91: hassle of what, friend?22:09
rodrigo91from backing up the thing22:09
holsteinrodrigo91: i literally dont know what you are referencing or trying to click on, or why.. start at the beginning with all the details22:09
reisiow4pm: Debian has 1.2.2 :)22:10
holsteinrodrigo91: what thing?22:10
rodrigo91partition22:10
reisiobut yeah, you can just get it from http://downloads.vagrantup.com/tags/v1.2.7 if you trust them22:10
holsteinw4pm: ubuntu doesnt "update the sources" like that.. its not a rolling release22:10
X-Sleepy-X!details | rodrigo9122:10
ubotturodrigo91: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:10
w4pmi just want to sudo apt-get install vagrant and for it to get a reaonsable version, not version 1.0.1 which is ancient22:10
holsteinw4pm: you get security release "fixes" and updates.. to the current system22:10
holsteinw4pm: you can always build your own verions of whatever you like.. or try a PPA22:11
w4pmholstein: thats my point, why have a package manager if i have to manually install all my packages22:11
w4pmthats why im complaining :P22:11
holsteinw4pm: the package manager just does that friend.. manages packages.. you are trying to complain about the sources not containing something you want22:11
rodrigo91im trying to copy a partition to a new partition would that work22:12
w4pmhm well whose responsibility is it to update sources? mine or the software creators or ubuntu..22:12
holsteinw4pm: you can file a backport bug.. or as i said, build your own, or try a PPA.. or run a rolling release22:12
holsteinw4pm: the sources *are* updated22:12
w4pmwell like in the case of vagrant, who should be updating the vagrant source?22:12
w4pmto be more recent22:12
w4pminstead of 1.0.122:12
holsteinw4pm: when you install ubuntu, you are installing and not getting a rolling release.. you are agreeing to use the current versions, and accept updates22:13
w4pmi did sudo apt-get install update and its still 1.0.122:13
badelvisHi there. I have encrypted my home. Obviously it is very important to save the mount passphrase, in case I have to access my home directly at some time. How can I retrieve the mount passphrase, when I'm logged in and my home is decrypted and mounted?22:13
holsteinw4pm: vagrant, *if* updates are available will be in the next version of ubuntu.. or, on the site from vagrant for you to get your self.. or a PPA22:13
w4pmi see, so i need to look for PPAs22:14
w4pmto supplement the released sources22:14
holsteinw4pm: ppa's, or install what you want manually, or try a rolling release distro.. or file a backport bug, and follow up, or offer to package and maintain it22:14
w4pmholstein: what is the role of package manager in setting up a system then?22:15
w4pmto maintain lower-level dependencies with libraries that dont change as often?22:15
w4pmif, at the top level, i'm installing what i want manually22:15
holsteinw4pm: to manage packages22:15
rodrigo91holstein forgot it yeah im trying toback up my drive22:15
rodrigo91so where do i start22:16
holsteinw4pm: when you run "sudo apt-get install vagrant", the package manager deals with dependenies , and allows you to easily remove the package.. etc22:16
w4pmyeah thats what i want to do22:16
w4pmbut its outdated :P22:16
mojtabaholstein: Hi again. I run the command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r), but it gives me: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic22:16
mojtabaE: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"22:16
holsteinw4pm: its up to date, according to the version you have chosen to run22:16
holsteinw4pm: you are always welcome to build your own version of whatever22:17
w4pmhmm why lock down software versions to a specific linux distro22:17
zykotick9!latest | w4pm22:17
ubottuw4pm: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.22:17
holsteinw4pm: its not a lock down, friend22:17
w4pmi see22:17
holsteinw4pm: its the alternative ro a rolling release.. both have pro's and con's22:17
mojtabaholstein: Hi again. I run the command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r), but it gives me: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic   E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"22:18
w4pmyeah im trying to get a picture of the psychology behind this, that helps thanks22:18
rodrigo91holstein how do i bavkup my drive to go back to ubuntu 10.0422:18
holsteinmojtaba: yes, i see that, please relax22:18
benkillindid something change with the updates recently? now on my boxen I get 404 errors when I am trying to apt-get update22:18
holsteinmojtaba: run "sudo apt-get update" and share errors via pastebin22:18
mojtabaholstein: sorry22:18
benkillinI've gathered this is because of EOL of the release22:18
w4pmmy personal psychology would be, the only way i install/remove software is witha  package manager, not juggling a multitude of ways (package manager, manual installation, etc) but i understand the need for stability22:18
benkillinis there a way to upgrade my release to a supported version without reinstalling from scratch?22:18
wilee-nileebenkillin, Might you share your release?22:19
holsteinw4pm: if you want the latest and greatest, that needs to be "maintained".. and you are welcome to do so22:19
mojtabaholstein: It gave no error.22:19
jrib!eolupgrade | benkillin22:19
ubottubenkillin: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:19
reisiobenkillin: yes22:19
holsteinmojtaba: then.. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)22:20
benkillin2.6.38-16-server #67-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 6 18:15:24 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux22:21
holsteinmojtaba: pastebin the entire error22:21
mojtabaholstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934368/22:21
benkillinthank you I will look at the eol upgrade page22:21
badelvisHi there. I have encrypted my home. Obviously it is very important to save the mount passphrase, in case I have to access my home directly at some time. How can I retrieve the mount passphrase, when I'm logged in and my home is decrypted and mounted?22:21
jake_can anyone help a moron with Primus and Warcraft?22:21
holsteinmojtaba: why do you need headers?22:21
mojtabaholstein: I want to run virtualbox22:22
holsteinmojtaba: whats the issue?22:23
mojtabait says there is no header22:23
holsteinmojtaba: it?22:23
holsteinmojtaba: share the *exact* errors via pastebin, please22:23
daftykinsvirtualbox install by the sounds22:23
mojtabaholstein: ok22:24
rodrigo91would wubi work for the back up22:24
daftykinswubi is dead22:24
holsteinrodrigo91: a live CD will work22:24
OerHeksbadelvis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Mount_Passphrase22:24
f00bar80After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this22:24
jake_can someone take a look at the 'patch' located at https://github.com/amonakov/primus/issues/91  and tell me what to do with it?22:24
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rodrigo91holstein:im on a live cd how do i back up my drive22:25
holsteinjake_: i would ignore it, and work with getting 3d support on your hardware, if you need it22:25
rodrigo91holstein:im on a live cd how do i back up my drive22:25
mojtabaholstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934378/22:25
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holsteinrodrigo91: you locate the location and source in a filemanager, and copy22:25
jribmojtaba: did you read what you pasted?22:26
rodrigo91what file manager22:26
realdeal2014 is going to be the year of Linux. Mark my words22:26
holsteinmojtaba: have you tried '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root?22:26
X-Sleepy-Xbenkillin: lsb_release -a22:26
badelvisThank you OerHeks. It worked!22:26
mojtabaholstein: No, I just install it via cmd and used sudo22:27
holsteinmojtaba: virtualbox dkms is available22:27
jake_I have hardware support through bumblebee, but Primus is supposed to work far faster....but if it is beyond what I can do, I'll stick with just bumblebee22:27
holsteinmojtaba: the error you just linked me suggests running '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root22:27
mojtabaholstein: What should I do with dkms?22:27
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holsteinmojtaba: you should try what the error message suggests.22:28
benkillinwhy isn't there an easy button for upgrading an EOLd install?22:28
mojtabaholstein: how should I install dkms?22:28
holsteinbenkillin: fresh install is what i consider easy.. but, there is a path when you catch it early enough22:29
holsteinmojtaba: have you tried '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root?22:29
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holsteinmojtaba: if not, try that first, since the error message suggests that22:29
gethenianare there any boot managers besides grub or lilo?22:29
holsteingethenian: plenty22:29
f00bar80hey ppl any comment /.22:30
holsteinf00bar80: on what?22:30
mojtabaholstein: there is no such file in that directory. (vboxdrv setup'22:30
holsteinf00bar80: i would look in the usual places.. fstab22:30
wilee-nileebenkillin, Because the eol repos are different.22:31
holsteinmojtaba: i would run "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms"22:31
f00bar80holstein, look for what ?22:31
lonewulf85Hey has anyone in here taken the Cisco certifications?22:31
mojtabaholstein: virtualbox-dkms is already the newest version.22:31
mojtabavirtualbox-dkms set to manually installed.22:31
holsteinf00bar80: things to be as i expect them to be, based on the drives that are in the system22:31
holsteinmojtaba: then, remove, and reinstall22:32
f00bar80holstein, in /dev/disk there's 2 IDs22:32
mojtabaholstein: sorry, but could you please give me the commands?22:32
holsteinmojtaba: sudo apt-get autoremove virtualbox22:32
mojtabaholstein: and should I run sudo apt-get install virtualbox after that?22:33
holsteinmojtaba: i would run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then after rebooting if there is a kerne upagrade, i would run 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox'22:34
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Phoenix1969HELP   install problem...  After choosing Ubuntu at bood, just get black screen with cursor @ top left...?22:35
holstein!nomodeset22:35
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:35
Phoenix1969boot22:35
holsteinPhoenix1969: ^^22:35
Phoenix1969ok, will read, ty22:36
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mojtabaholstein: I run all the commands and still same problem. :(22:37
mojtabaholstein: No suitable module for running kernel found22:37
wilee-nileelonewulf85, you might make a thread at the ubuntu forums, more users to answer.22:37
daftykinsaskubuntu!22:38
holsteinmojtaba: then, install the module22:38
bigawucI have many computers at my house. I am a web developer. Should I use ubuntu-server or centOS to make a local server to access remotely kind of thinking of making a little intranet app for fun22:38
holsteinmojtaba: you are missing the module, not headers22:38
holsteinmojtaba: i have had that problem when i was running a PPA for virtualbox22:38
reisiobigawuc: whichever distro you're most familiar with22:38
Crowman   /part22:38
reisiobigawuc: be it ubuntu, centos, or another one entirely22:38
lonewulf85wilee-nille, I was just wondering a general question about how tough the courses are?22:38
bigawucwant to manage a lot of development projects on the server22:38
holsteinbigawuc: this is the ubuntu channel. of course ubuntu is suggested22:38
mojtabaholstein: Then you know what should I do?22:38
reisiobigawuc: the only truly sane reason to use CentOS is if you already knew RHEL, and can no longer afford it22:39
holsteinmojtaba: yes.. *exactly* what i said22:39
caersithCan anyone access medibuntu? I can access them during update.22:39
holsteinmojtaba: do you have a ppa added?22:39
wilee-nileelonewulf85, No idea myself, mt studies are not even closely related. ;)22:39
wilee-nileeMY*22:39
Loshkibigawuc: all other things being equal, I think ubuntu has better support for beginners...22:39
mojtabaholstein: I am not sure. but maybe before I have done that22:39
caersithI can't access them during update22:39
mojtabaholstein: How should I check that?22:39
holsteinmojtaba: confirm if you are, or not.. that can be breaking it22:39
holsteinmojtaba: i would look at my sources22:40
mojtabaholstein: How should I look at the sources?22:40
mojtabaholstein: I have not done this before. (sorry for many questions.)22:40
wilee-nileecaersith, Medibuntu is not supported anymore, not really needed as well.22:40
holsteinmojtaba: this is relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/126175/virtualbox-doesnt-load-after-12-04-upgrade22:40
Casey_Anyone know how to auto mount a drive that has been encrypted by truebit?22:40
Casey_truecrypt***22:41
wilee-nileeCasey_, YOu have the password?22:41
mojtabaholstein: should I follow the first two answers?22:42
Casey_wilee-nilee the dirves have not been formated and encrypted yet. I had wanted to wait till I knew if it was possible or not.22:42
holsteinmojtaba: i would read the entire page, and do what you feel comfortable trying22:42
holsteinmojtaba: i am leaving, so addresss the channel22:43
mojtabaholstein: Thank you very much22:43
mojtababye22:43
wilee-nileeCasey_, I have not used that option, but this might help. http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/main-program-window22:43
wilee-nileeon that page22:43
rodrigo91holstein is this one any good http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-files-from-your-dead-windows-computer/22:43
caersithwilee-nilee: So what should I do to uninstall them?22:43
wilee-nileecaersith, I believe you added the repo to  sources.list or sources.list.d however you can untick them and remove in software sources.22:44
LoshkiCasey_: I see a lot of info at http://askubuntu.com/questions/103835/securely-automount-encrypted-drive-at-user-login22:45
Casey_Thank you both for the replies :)22:45
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wilee-nileecaersith, If you go to the ubuntu software center-edit-software sources-other software ans look there.22:46
caersithwilee-nilee: I know that, and I already check them on source.list and I couldn't find the medibuntu address there. I'll look into that one more time. In the mean time. Any other idea?22:47
wilee-nileecaersith, Probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d22:48
wilee-nileecaersith, Fir that I would just gksudo nautilus and go there and delete, I have nautilus set to bypass trash though22:49
caersithyeah I found it on the source.list.d22:49
wilee-nileeFor*22:49
wilee-nileecool22:49
caersithwilee-nilee: thanks22:49
wilee-nileecaersith, no problem I don't know the rm -rf for that link in the folder is all22:50
Woxwhat is the recommended setup for partitions?22:51
wilee-nileeWox, Not really any recomendation other than big enough for the OS, what is your goal here.22:52
wilee-nileeand ext4 generally22:52
f00bar80holstein, i found no fstab in /etc22:52
f00bar80holstein, only mtab22:52
Woxwilee-nilee: mine is to use it for work and such, and have alot of apps i guess.. i really dont know what i want22:53
rodrigo91wilee nilee pm me i really need your guidance22:54
wilee-nileeWox, understandable, the partitions are resizeable if needed, some people have a separate home to have saved for upgrades, personally I just use one partition and a swap, install is about 4 gigs or so.22:55
RalliasIs it possible to tell networkmanager to do an "iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" after connecting to a wireless network?22:55
f00bar80ppl any comment?22:55
wilee-nileerodrigo91, I don't do PM's22:55
reisiof00bar80: hi22:56
f00bar80reisio, hey22:56
f00bar80reisio, After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this22:56
RalliasI know with /etc/networking/interfaces I can do a "post-up", but I'm using a laptop that I'd rather utilize the network-manager infrastructure.22:56
rodrigo91so can you tell me step by step how to backup my system22:57
f00bar80reisio, as well i found no fstab in /etc22:57
Woxwilee-nilee: i have heard that it also good if the system crushed!?22:57
reisiof00bar80: are your partitions mounted?22:57
wilee-nileerodrigo91, You can copy and paste from one partition to another in gparted, or due a clonezilla package save and reload, a number of options22:57
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wilee-nileeWox, A seperate home? I have never had a crash in 6 years but I follow some parameters, my nick is a joke.22:58
Woxyes22:58
Lightingbladehow do i downalod wmere or virual box ?22:59
wilee-nileeWox, I suppose so best insurance on a crash is an image/clone and backups.22:59
daftykinswilee-nilee: you just want everyone to say "i did it wilee-nilee "22:59
thiebaudeLightingblade, its in the software center22:59
f00bar80reisio, proc/partitions list my disk as sda sda1 sda2 ,, etc22:59
thiebaudevirtualbox is22:59
reisiof00bar80: uhuh, are they mounted? 'mount'22:59
Lightingbladeis it free ?22:59
wilee-nileedaftykins, Yah sure you betcha. ;)22:59
thiebaudeyes22:59
thiebaudeLightingblade,22:59
rodrigo91wilee nilee: i tried that but it cant23:00
wilee-nileerodrigo91, tried what?23:00
rodrigo91trying to copy the partition it just stays the same23:01
f00bar80reisio, mount shows udev proc, rootfs tmpfs ,, seems no disk are mounted23:01
wilee-nileerodrigo91, what stays the same?23:01
axelm7hi guys I have a box with ubuntu 13.04 x64 minimal server install. I'd like to add gnome or kde so I can run vuze. Can someone help me with the apt-get install package groups I have to add?23:01
rodrigo91the quanitty its just one wuatity23:01
rodrigo91quatity23:02
Woxwilee-nilee: someone else told me to use root only and backup23:02
spikesHey guys, when I update ubuntu I have been using apt-get upgrade, i noticed it does not update 2 files that dist-upgrade and the gui software updater offer to upgrade23:02
wilee-nileerodrigo91, I use clonezilla then you have a backup then reload it to the other partition. THe copy paste in gparted has to be to anequal or larger partition in size.23:02
wilee-nileesame with clonezilla23:03
rodrigo91is clonezilla available for ubuntu 10.0423:03
spikesmy question is, am i better off skipping those files? for some reason in the past when ive done the dist-upgrade it started messing up my ubuntu install23:03
wilee-nileerodrigo91, It is a 3rd party you download the ISO and make a cd or usb and boot it to use, you need a place to put the packages is all.23:04
wilee-nileerodrigo91, It is not a mirror image other than as data.23:04
wilee-nileeits a clone23:04
rodrigo91darn im strewed i dont got a ush or cd23:05
wilee-nileerodrigo91, Is it a big hurry, having the correct tools makes things easier and less likely to be a failure.23:05
f00bar80reisio, also there's nt /mnt directory23:06
f00bar80reisio, blkid shows the 2 sda1 and sda5 , sda5 is the swap and sda1 is the ext423:07
wilee-nileeWox, Not sure what root only is, I think they meant one partition.23:08
rodrigo91can i just make a  new partition then extract the other partition from that partition23:08
Lightingbladedose anyone know a good site to downlaod oprating systems on ?23:08
spikesLightingblade, torrents23:08
wilee-nileerodrigo91, gparted will if the second partition is equal or larger in size23:08
Woxwilee-nilee: only root partition.. like /23:08
wilee-nileeWox, ubuntu does not run in root / only is the mount for a single partition, the word root here is not exactly accurate.23:09
rodrigo91well the curruped one is 168.24 and the free space is 121.4023:10
wilee-nileerodrigo91, That is why you can't use gparted.23:10
wilee-nileeor clonezilla23:10
rodrigo91so it has to be more23:10
wilee-nileerodrigo91, equal or more23:10
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rodrigo91i already deleted a couple of used files both totaling 40 gb is that enough23:11
Woxwilee-nilee: ok but only one partition and backup.. told a guy to me23:11
Woxother*23:11
Lightingbladebut wont torrent slow down your internet conection  if ur going to download a oprating system ?23:12
wilee-nileerodrigo91, There might be a tar option but I'm not familiar and corrupted partition should just have what you can get out if mountable unless fixable, messing with it may brick it totally if not already.23:12
thiebaudeLightingblade, its better if you have a high speed internet23:12
Lightingbladeah ok im just affried it will wreck my conection for a norma home intenret conection23:13
wilee-nileeLightingblade, torrents have limitations in speed, I would wager your throttled anyway, do you even know the max speed?23:13
thiebaude^^23:13
Lightingbladeno im new to this ^-^ il find out !23:14
wilee-nileeLightingblade, You go there. ;)23:14
thiebaudeLightingblade, i have done it many times, just saying :)23:14
YamakasYI wonder how I can check which port is on which switch on a dell 915523:15
YamakasY195523:15
wilee-nileeyou v=can control the speed from the torrent app23:15
wilee-nileecan*23:15
Lightingbladeis there a website where u can cheack ur intenret speed?23:15
thiebaudeLightingblade, just google it23:15
Lightingbladeah23:15
spikesgoogle speed test first link23:15
thiebaude:)23:15
wilee-nileeLightingblade, on the web what is my speed is a good search23:15
thiebaudeyep23:15
Lightingbladety23:15
f00bar80hello anybody there can help?23:16
thiebaudeLightingblade, i use this http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/23:16
Lightingbladewhat is a good speed to have ?23:17
spikesnormal cable is like 10-15mbs turbo is 20 and it goes up23:17
f00bar80reisio, i've got my sda1 mounted and fstab is showing UUID / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 123:17
Jordan_ULightingblade: If you only allow connections to peers via µTP then it should be more polite to other traffic on the network, and with most Free OSs the torrents have enough peers, and they're savvy enough, that you should be able to get great speeds even from only peers supporting µTP.23:17
Lightingbladeah23:19
f00bar80ppl any help23:20
spikesLightingblade, what works for me with a 25mb connection is limiting it to about 1-1.5mbs top download speed and my internet speed is still sufficient for video streaming and such23:21
daftykinsf00bar80: what's the problem?23:21
IncreaseHey guys23:21
ikoniaf00bar80: what is the actual problm ?23:21
Lightingbladeso if i would do that i can still download stuff on the utorrent without dissurbing annyones internet conection on the net ?23:22
IncreaseIs there any way to keep a usb ubuntu to save what you do?23:22
Ben64!persistance | Increase23:22
Ben64!persistant | Increase23:22
ubottuIncrease: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent23:22
f00bar80ikonia, After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this23:23
spikesLightingblade, theres not going to be any difference between you downloading a movie on utorrent and an OS, they are probably even close to being the same size23:23
IncreaseI've set the persistant file to 4086 and when I exit it doesn't save.23:23
Increaseben6423:23
Ben64maybe you did it incorrectly, check the links above23:23
ikoniaf00bar80: use sudo blkid to check the uuid's of your disks23:23
wilee-nileeBen64, Ou can have a ext3 partition named casper-rw for a persistent as big as you want23:23
wilee-nileeYou*23:23
f00bar80ikonia, i did and they're same as in /mnt/sysroot/etc/fstab23:24
ikoniaf00bar80: what about the grub.cfg23:24
IncreaseBen64, I did the pendrive install like it says on the tut. I slide the persistant slide to all the way and it won't save.23:24
f00bar80ikonia, i've tried cat it but couldn't get all the file content in initramfs even using "more"23:25
ikoniaf00bar80: why are you looking at initramfs /23:25
ikoniaf00bar80: I said the grub.cfg23:25
wilee-nileeLightingblade, Be sure to use nicks when addressing others, you can tab complete nicks so we can follow.23:26
acidrainwhere can i find help about why my ubuntu system is not allowing me to upload a file to my web server using php?23:26
f00bar80ikonia, i've tried to cat /mnt/sysroot/grub/grub.cfg , but can't see all the file's content23:26
ikoniaf00bar80: what do you mean can't see all it's content23:27
f00bar80ikonia, when tried to cat it , only a part of it displayed23:27
ikoniaf00bar80: use a text editor or more23:27
acidrainthe php channel is invite only :/23:28
IncreaseYou will have to enable the component called 'universe'23:28
f00bar80ikonia, i'm in initramfs23:28
IncreaseHow do you that?23:28
Lightingbladehow can i be in more rooms on here is there a command ?23:28
ikoniaf00bar80: use a livecd or something if your not comfortable from busy box23:28
acidraini have proper permissions set as apache is running as www-data. and i have permissions on the 'upload' folder set to www-data.www-data 77723:28
f00bar80ikonia, is there a way to use any text editor from busybox?23:29
thiebaudein xchat-view-channel switcher-tabs Lightingblade23:29
ikoniaf00bar80: you can still use more23:29
f00bar80ikonia, more always displayed the file's tail23:29
ikoniaf00bar80: it should display the start23:30
f00bar80ikonia, i have no cd in this atom notebook23:30
thiebaudeLightingblade, or if you use pidgin you wont have to worry about the tabs23:30
f00bar80ikonia, let me try again23:30
OrpheonI have the source of a c library (in my case portaudio) and would like to include the headers; what is the cleanest/best way to do that?23:31
f00bar80ikonia, no using more, always shows the file's tail23:31
Lightingbladebut i just see the ubuntu room and no other like when i first joined i saw other room too?23:31
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Orpheoncopy-pasting into usr seems dangerous, and leaving somewhere in the file tree and changing the path variable seems not secure either23:31
thiebaudeLightingblade, change the view to tabs instead of tree view23:31
IncreaseYou will have to enable the component called 'universe', how do you enable?23:31
Orpheonis there anything like make install which automatically puts the files in the right places?23:31
thiebaudein xchat23:31
f00bar80ikonia, i think in all cases i'll not be able to modify the grub.cfg from the buxybox23:31
ikoniaf00bar80: should be able to23:32
f00bar80ikonia, how ..?!!23:32
ikoniaf00bar80: first check it has the wrong uuid23:32
acidrainAH! thx ubuntu for your help. i have found the issue. i didnt restart apache after i changed the max file size upload :P23:33
thiebaudeacidrain, cool :)23:33
f00bar80ikonia, how , i mentioned that more always shows the file's tail23:33
gethenianwhat is a normal connection range for a cardbus wifi?23:33
ikoniaf00bar80: it shoulnd't do that23:33
Lightingbladewhat tasps do you mean ?23:33
ikoniaf00bar80: I suggest booting from teh livd usb to make it easy for you23:34
thiebaudeLightingblade, you using xchat?23:34
f00bar80ikonia, :( :) ... that;s what happened23:34
Lightingbladeyeah23:34
ikoniagethenian: that is an impossible question23:34
gethenianwhat is usual?23:34
ikoniagethenian: there is no such thing as "usual"23:34
gethenianis getting only 1 megabit at 10 feet (3 meters), poor reception?23:35
thiebaudegoto the top of xchat and choose view-channel switcher then choose tabs23:35
thiebaudeLightingblade,23:35
f00bar80ikonia, k let me try23:36
mnerihello, i need the name of a good and easy daemon monitor. I want to know if a daemon on my server get down. Suggestions?23:36
hodappI'm on 13.04 on a Chromebook, but I can't seem to connect to any wireless from the commandline; lines like 'iwconfig mlan0 essid NETGEAR' are returning silently, but iwconfig is never showing me as associated and so dhclient can't get an address23:37
hodappwould do this graphically but cannot make X start without some packages missed in the installation23:37
dr_willisyou did a desktop install.?23:38
hodappdr_willis: It's xubuntu-desktop, I believe, but the issue is with some drivers that my hardware configuration requires.23:39
Lightingbladeah finally got it the options menu at the top was hiden with the taps on normal view so i maximixed the window and it came back agen23:39
hodappI suppose I can look at using NetworkManager's commandline tools23:41
azazel91can anybody tell me where does the deleted items of the live cd go i cant seem to find it anywhere in my computer23:43
Dandalionazazel91, is there a trash bin in your home folder?23:44
azazel91no why23:45
azazel91dadalion do you mean left hand panel then yes23:46
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hodappokay, NetworkManager apparently is usable from the commandline and actually got me an address despite my iwconfig commands not working23:50
hodappwoot23:50
vieiraHello, I wrote a shell script and changed /etc/passwd to execute this instead of /bin/bash and it works when I ssh into the machine. But now when I try to scp it gives me an error :(23:50
vieirait says: 2013/07/31 23:41:21 Impossible to monitor size on non-tty23:50
vieiraany idea?23:50
varlogtimHey hodapp23:51
honestlyvieira: sftp instead?23:51
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varlogtimhodapp NetworkManager is usuable on command line, apt-get install nmcli23:51
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honestlyvieira: or you could force the execution of that script in your ssh config instead of replacing your login shell23:52
hodappvarlogtim: err, apt-get does me no good when I've no Internet access on here.23:52
hodappvarlogtim: also, as I just said, I was able to use it to get an address23:53
varlogtimhodapp Oh... My bad... I am on this boring conference call ... Just popped in and thought I would add some non-knowledge23:53
hodapp:)23:54
f00bar80ikonia, hey in grub.cfg that's what i found set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set "my sda1 uuid" which i got from blkid23:54
vieirahonestly: sftp user@host does not give any error but does nothing23:55
vieirahonestly: I write pwd, for example, nothing happens23:55
vieirahonestly: or even help...23:55
honestlyweird23:55
fabrinaoi23:55
honestlylooks like replacing your shell by a script was a bad idea >_>23:55
fabrinacomo??23:56
vieirahonestly: can only access via ssh, I don't understand what I have to change to not break scp23:56
wilee-nileefabrina, English?23:56
fabrinano23:56
fabrinabrazileiro23:56
wilee-nilee!br23:56
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.23:56
wilee-nileefabrina^^^^^23:56
fabrinaola23:56
wilee-nilee;()23:57
wilee-nilee;)23:57
fabrina:))23:57
fabrinafale me portugues23:57
vieirahonestly: I think it has something to do with tty and non-tty but not sure...23:57
honestlyvieira: I think it has something to do with you not having a login shell anymore23:57
vieirafabrina: faça /join #ubuntu-br23:57
IncreaseHey guys23:57
IncreaseWhere do I run the apt-get install command from?23:58
jribIncrease: terminal23:58
IncreaseDo I do it in the folder or in a sub folder or desktop?23:58
Increasejrib I know that.. Lol. I run it and it says it has no installation candiate23:58
jribIncrease: you run it in a terminal.  What is it that you want to do exactly?23:58
tripelbhelp please. 12.04 iso no internet connection can NOT see the 2-3 ntfs windows and backup partitions.23:58
jribIncrease: what are  you running?23:58
Increaseubuntu23:58
jribIncrease: what command are you running?23:59
Increaseapt-get install23:59
IncreaseI'm root23:59
jribIncrease: the syntax is apt-get install PACKAGE23:59
IncreaseYeah, I'm doing that23:59
vieirahonestly: can I mimic the "thing" that a login shell does just to get scp to work?23:59
Increaseapt-get install aircrack-ng23:59
jrib!info aircrack-ng23:59
ubottuaircrack-ng (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-5 (raring), package size 811 kB, installed size 2084 kB23:59
tripelbi have only used gnome 2 before.23:59
jacobguy7800Hi guys ubuntu n00b here23:59
jribIncrease: make sure you have universe enabled and run « sudo apt-get update »23:59

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