[00:00] <iampoz> whats the problem?
[00:01] <daniel11> x wont start and I cant get to a terminal to troubleshoot it. after installing nvidia binary drivers.
[00:02] <rusty101> hello, if I dual boot Linux with my win7, will I have the windows security holes when i boot to linux?
[00:03] <gordonjcp> rusty101: no
[00:04] <gordonjcp> rusty101: you can still read your Windows files, mostly, but you're running completely different software with a completely different set of security holes
[00:04] <daniel11> rusty101 - when linux is running, windows will be shut down. when windows is running, linux will be shut down. you will not have problems with windows viruses, malware etc. when running linux, even if you still ahve windows installed at the time.
[00:04] <gordonjcp> rusty101: not nearly so many holes, though
[00:04] <gordonjcp> rusty101: there are no viruses for Linux
[00:04] <gordonjcp> rusty101: there are some security holes, and it pays to be somewhat careful
[00:04] <mjayk> gordonjcp: i dont like the statement there are no viruses for Linux that cant be true
[00:05] <rusty101> will big brother still be logging me in Linux?
[00:05] <hewhomust> rusty0101: Big brother is called Canonical
[00:05] <mjayk> rusty101: most likely if you use the interwebs
[00:05] <gordonjcp> mjayk: well, there aren't
[00:05] <cgtdk> rusty101: They log your internet traffic, so yes
[00:05] <daniel11> rusty101 - only mark shutteworth
[00:05] <mjayk> gordonjcp: i disagree, its a sweeping statement
[00:05] <gordonjcp> mjayk: there are vastly more Linux computers connected to the Internet than Windows computers
[00:06] <azaleo> http://i.imgur.com/CnEeI.jpg?1
[00:06] <gordonjcp> mjayk: you'd think if it was possible, it would have been done by now
[00:06] <cgtdk> azaleo: please don't
[00:06] <mjayk> gordonjcp: it has been done thats my point, just google theres ltos of info on it. There are not as many because its not a big of a target as windows just google
[00:07] <gordonjcp> mjayk: there's nothing, there's *one* proof-of-concept virus that takes a lot of work to get going
[00:07] <rusty101> when I boot to linux it certainly will be more secure than Windows, correct?
[00:07] <gordonjcp> mjayk: Linux is a much larger target than Windows
[00:07] <azaleo> not really
[00:08] <gordonjcp> mjayk: there are pretty much no Windows computers connected to the Internet
[00:08] <lurker> hello
[00:08] <mjayk> gordonjcp: no your wrong -  reference [1] http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3601946
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> rusty0101, you are only as safe as you are careful no matter what OS.
[00:08] <gordonjcp> mjayk: lol, Kaspersky
[00:08] <mjayk> gordonjcp: reference 2 http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security.nsf/ppfdocs/2005110716014248
[00:08] <mjayk> srsly jsut use the internet
[00:08] <gordonjcp> lol, Symantec
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: those are nonsense
[00:09] <mjayk> yea those crazy dogs gordonjcp people like you saying ahhh there are no linux virus are jsut 1 wrong and 2 provide a false sence of security
[00:09] <mjayk> simple as end
[00:09] <lurker> anyone?
[00:09] <cgtdk> !ask | lurker
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: because, there are no viruses for Linux
[00:09] <mjayk> there are
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: it's really that simple
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: show me one
[00:09] <mjayk> do you have a web browser?
[00:09] <gordonjcp> mjayk: yup
[00:09] <mjayk> do you know what google is ?
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> get a room guys
[00:10] <gordonjcp> mjayk: yes, and I know what fairy stories are too
[00:10] <mjayk> i suggest you stop wasting my time and use it
[00:10] <cgtdk> !pm | lurker
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, mjayk Argue in a pm
[00:10] <gordonjcp> mjayk: hint - if you see the name of a virus scanner software manufacturer on the article, it's a sensationalist piece intended to scare you into opening your wallet
[00:11] <lurker> how to make 2 Oss boot simultaneously from within one
[00:11] <mjayk> gordonjcp: please stop saying my name and go away
[00:11] <gordonjcp> mjayk: no
[00:11] <lurker> no no, not like this
[00:11] <daniel11> gordonjcp: actually the first virus ever written was for a unix-variant. there are viruses that are written in javascript and run in your browser, a classic myspace virus will run on anything with a javascript interpreter and the right environment - including linux. frameworks like metasploit provide exploitations for lots of known, documented security holes in common nix utilities. and anyone is succeptable to running untrusted code. its iimportant to know
[00:11] <lurker> make them choose before the login
[00:11] <mjayk> gordonjcp: many dots helps if you can read
[00:11] <gordonjcp> daniel11: those are not viruses, because they cannot self-replicate and they are not persistent
[00:12] <lurker> Choose, not override
[00:12] <daniel11> gordonjcp - i gave you several examples of self-replicating code in my previous
[00:12] <lurker> optional boot
[00:12] <gordonjcp> daniel11: and yet despite there being many many more Linux machines connected to the Internet than Windows machines, they're just not infected anywhere like as often
[00:13] <gordonjcp> daniel11: have you ever seen an ADSL router that ran Windows...?
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> STOP THE OFFTOPIC BADWARE ARGUMENT.
[00:13] <daniel11> Hahaha. Yes actually.
[00:13] <daniel11> homebrew
[00:13] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: oops, sorry, just noticed this wasn't #u-ot
[00:13] <lurker> reboot the PC and see 2 Os options
[00:13] <daniel11> yeah lets stop now guys.
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> lol thanks
[00:13] <rusty101> If I have say, Flash or windows update on my Win7, will those holes be seen in my dual boot linux install when I boot Linux?
[00:13] <lurker> and then help me decide wich one to shoot
[00:14] <daniel11> rusty101 - no.
[00:14] <gordonjcp> rusty101: no, because none of your Windows code is running
[00:14] <rusty101> ahhhh
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> rusty101, Did you install from windows per-chance?
[00:14] <rusty101> I am not going to
[00:14] <rusty101> I will install from cd
[00:14] <lurker> or make them run in a bunble, haf the screen each
[00:15] <rusty101> I am on windows now
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> rusty101, Cool, windows and ubuntu will be indifferent partitions then, use common sense, and you will be fine.
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> different*
[00:15] <daniel11> lurker - I particularly like the idea of being given the option of which OS to shoot when you start your computer.
[00:15] <rusty101> there will be the GRUB bootloader
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> !virus | rusty0101 here is basic info
[00:17] <lurker> daniel11: it is not new, when windows gets moved, 2 boots are shown (2)
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> rusty101, There is a security section at the ubuntu forums I would ask questions there.
[00:17] <rusty101> okay, thank you very much
[00:17] <Awaken> would like to point out windows update isn't a security hole, it's exactly the opposite
[00:17] <Awaken> :P
[00:17] <lurker> daniel11: it is quite nice to choose the options , moodwise
[00:18] <guest_01> anyone know how to resume sshfs after hibernate. something about pm-utils eaelier but i didnt get it all
[00:19] <guest_01> or better yet how to put it in fstab. os doesnt seem to like the sshfs command in there
[00:19] <lurker> daniel11: the next Os overwrote the MBR, and left the old OS buisnessless
[00:20] <lurker> daniel11: but the old guy is still there, just waiting to be awakened
[00:22] <lurker> daniel11: it is still there, but the loader in the beginning doesn't see them both.
[00:23] <lurker> Casey, do you know MBR?
[00:23] <Casey> lurker: I know of it, yes.
[00:24] <lurker> Oh thenk you
[00:24] <Casey> Lurker why do you ask?
[00:24] <lurker> Casey: do you know how to change boot options?
[00:25] <Casey> lurker you need to be more specific, bud. What are we changing, what OS's are we looking to use, etc...
[00:32] <daniel11> can anyone help me with my x crashing problem?
[00:32] <mjayk> daniel11: can you get to a tty? i.e. is it defo an x problem
[00:33] <daniel11> mjayk - nope, it freezes for all input. I can get to a tty before the crash, but I dont have time to type anything.
[00:34] <mjayk> if tty is crashing doesnt that say its not an x problem daniel11 ? I could be wrong
[00:35] <daniel11> could be, could be. I'm not an expert. I'm just assuming its a nvidia drivers problem. there are some error messages - something about sdc1, something about plymouth being ok. Im a fast reader but I dont have time to read them.
[00:36] <mjayk> daniel11: i would be sceptical about saying its an x crash if you cant get to tty, afaik if x crashes you can mostly always get to tty
[00:36] <gustavo> Hi ya all
[00:36] <CIDR>  2 of my users went from getting maybe 30-40 spams a day to over 20k.  And it's just crap like
[00:36] <CIDR>               this: http://pastebin.com/VpMmeMsv  any ideas at all?
[00:37] <gustavo> Will Ubuntu bring back evolution mail to work with the messaging icon an popper?
[00:37] <cgtdk> CIDR: Get a spamfilter
[00:37] <CIDR> I'm using one...
[00:37] <daniel11> the last message is Starting CPU interrupts balancing daemon and then saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned
[00:37] <CIDR> and it's getting hammered.  The users aren't receiving the spam
[00:37] <daniel11> both are [ok]
[00:37] <cgtdk> Spam is unavoidable. 20k seems like a lot though
[00:38] <gustavo> I like evolution better that thunderbird
[00:38] <daniel11> CIDR - do most of them come form the same netblocks?
[00:39] <CIDR> no
[00:39] <CIDR> that's what's bizarre
[00:39] <daniel11> so completely different netblocks, no similarities to message content, etc?
[00:39] <cgtdk> CIDR: How exactly is this Ubuntu related? Do you run an Ubuntu server?
[00:39] <greg__> How do i install ushare on linux
[00:39] <CIDR> spam filter requires valid reverse dns....  and way different net blocks
[00:39] <CIDR> cgtdk: yes
[00:40] <CIDR> daniel11: yeah way crazy netblocks and the content of the messages basically are just random words
[00:40] <CIDR> no links, no selling of crap, etc...
[00:40] <cgtdk> Maybe someone doesn't like those two users. Are they related in any way?
[00:40] <CIDR> No...  not that I can tell
[00:40] <cgtdk> odd
[00:40] <CIDR> VERY
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> greg__, Not sure but here is a wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media
[00:41] <CIDR> getting hundreds a minute still, only way i'm gettin gthe filter to keep up is to just drop mail to those 2 users
[00:41] <daniel11> what kind of spam filter are you using?
[00:41] <cgtdk> how long has it been going on?
[00:42] <greg__> thanks
[00:42] <CIDR> like 8 hours
[00:42] <daniel11> mjayk: any ideas what to do?
[00:42] <greg__> wilee
[00:42] <greg__> u the man
[00:42] <CIDR> exim with spamassin, clamav
[00:42] <cgtdk> CIDR: Maybe you should ask on a more relevant forum. #ubuntu isn't exactly filled with spam experts.
[00:43] <CIDR> understood, but it is filled with a vast number of people that may/may not work/be in the field and see this kind of thing
[00:43] <CIDR> I've been asking wherever and it's a mystery to most everyone, though it was worth a shot
[00:43] <mjayk> daniel11: id go for a recovery cd kinda no idea though sorry
[00:43] <magdur> selam mübarekler ya benim makina da ubuntu kurulu amma çok ısınıyor napsak ona ?
[00:43] <cgtdk> That's all right, I was just trying to be helpful.
[00:44] <cgtdk> I've never heard of something like this before.
[00:44] <CIDR> I understand.
[00:44] <CIDR> This is just crazy
[00:44] <CIDR> usually processes 40k mails a day, at 90+ already today, and it's only 7:45
[00:45] <magdur> hiç türkçe bilen yok mu
[00:45] <mjayk> CIDR: do the mails have any common link?
[00:45] <CIDR> other than them being just random garbage no
[00:45] <CIDR> no same from, no same reply
[00:46] <kostkon> !tr | magdur
[00:46] <CIDR> I've checked headers/logs literally thousands and thousands of different ip's sending them
[00:46] <CIDR> UNITE.Communists, should miss each as if made through excitedly. blackmail on.The sons ran down down the standstill think theyve only
[00:46] <cgtdk> where are they coming from? All over the world?
[00:46] <CIDR> I mean just like 3 paragraphs of garbage like that in each e-mail
[00:47] <daniel11> thanks mjayk. I have a USB disk around. if I boot into a safe environment form it, what would you suggest to do next?
[00:48] <mjayk> tbh id try to revert drivers and mby do a disk check im a bit outta my depth tbh daniel11
[00:48] <simiom9> Olá, boa noite a todos. alguem do pará?
[00:49] <cgtdk> simiom9: Please speak English in this channel.
[00:49] <daniel11> thanks mjayk
[00:49] <kostkon> !pt | simiom9
[00:54] <daniel11> ah. this is interesting. I can still REISUB it.
[00:55] <wzj> ???
[00:55] <cgtdk> wzj: yes?
[00:56] <netlar> !!!
[01:05] <daniel11> I can get to grub. but grub freezes immediately.
[01:07] <charlin> hi
[01:07] <netlar> hi
[01:07] <charlin> can we talk
[01:07] <charlin> maibe not about ubuntu
[01:07] <netlar> about?
[01:07] <charlin> life?
[01:07] <netlar> NO!!!
[01:07] <mgodzilla> hi
[01:07] <Pici> charlin: Theres #ubuntu-offtopic for non-ubuntu things
[01:07] <charlin> ok
[01:08] <charlin> so
[01:08] <charlin> i wanna to know if how to get along well with ubuntu if my english is poor
[01:08] <jpds> charlin: Install it in your language.
[01:09] <charlin> clever
[01:09] <qin> cut here for new entry in bash.org
[01:09] <daniel11> I have made progress. ps2 keyboard + shift for grub. from the recovery menu am I better off with a root shell prompt or failsafe graphic mode?
[01:10] <uhelp> What IRC channel would I join to chat with people in Florida?
[01:11] <qin> !loco
[01:11] <Corey> uhelp: Any of them. IRC is a global phenomenon. :-)
[01:11] <uhelp> Thank you I will check it out.
[01:12] <reisio> uhelp: I'm in Florida :)
[01:13] <daniel11> I have a root shell prompt. any advice on what to do now? or where to start looking for the problem?
[01:13] <uhelp> reisio, I remember you --- but I don't remember where --- only that you sold your google maps vehicle.  (The channel is #ubuntu-us-fl by the way)
[01:13] <Malgorath> Do AMD/ATI video cards still not perform well in ubuntu/linux?
[01:14] <Malgorath> Compared to NVIDIA I mean.
[01:14] <uhelp> reisio, I am now in Florida getting Medical Marijuana on the ballot at 2501 Bristol Drive B5 West Palm Beach, FL 33409
[01:14] <Malgorath> ewe political issues
[01:15] <daniel11> anyone?
[01:15] <netlar> Malgorath: I have AMD it works pretty good most of the time
[01:15] <uhelp> Malgorath, we don't think of it as political ... we think of it as getting politics out of a doctor-patient decision
[01:15] <Malgorath> daniel11: did you do a minimal install?
[01:15] <reisio> uhelp: heh
[01:16] <daniel11> no, full install. my computer freezes during startup and the x server does weird things. not sure what the problem is. but I have a root shell now.
[01:16] <reisio> uhelp: he might have meant that getting it decriminalized is political :p
[01:16] <Malgorath> daniel11: check dmesg and logs to see if there are errors
[01:17] <Malgorath> reisio: that and its a very OT thing to bring up. I know when I see it the troll in me starts to stir
[01:17] <reisio> huh?
[01:17] <Malgorath> netlar: I was wondering, I have a box I'm working on with a 7870 in it and was wondering if its time to ditch windows 8
[01:18] <netlar> I have a 7750 card
[01:18] <netlar> Malgorath: Not into video games
[01:18] <Malgorath> reisio: its nothing to burn cycles on, just I am against medical versions of anything, make it legal or just let it go
[01:18] <hewhomust> Malgorath: If you don't do any serious video editing it should be k
[01:18] <reisio> some people like stepping stones
[01:19] <Malgorath> netlar: I have a windows 7 gaming laptop I use for games. This box was meant to be just pure fun
[01:19] <hewhomust> Malgorath: It's still slightly slower than windows
[01:19] <hewhomust> I'm using a hd 7950
[01:19] <Malgorath> hewhomust: I have a mac pro tower dual processor for video editing
[01:19] <hewhomust> nice
[01:20] <hewhomust> it should run nicely then
[01:20] <dhia> hey hey
[01:20] <Malgorath> I have to many computers sitting in this office, 2 ACs just to keep it below 80
[01:20] <hewhomust> lol
[01:20] <hewhomust> dhia: hey
[01:20] <netlar> Malgorath: need to start your own server farm
[01:20] <dhia> i'm on an imac, so tell me dogs which one is better mac or linux
[01:21] <hewhomust> personal opinion
[01:21] <netlar> dhia: I have both. love both
[01:21] <hewhomust> or windows is better trollolol
[01:21] <dhia> netlar: true mac is linux in disguise dawg ?
[01:21] <reisio> dhia: linux
[01:22] <reisio> mac is bsd in disguise
[01:22] <Malgorath> dhia: depends honestly ... comparing a PC to a MAC is like comparing a honda to a BMW. depends on what you do to the honda to make it better.  And how often do you want to keep putting better in the honda, or do you want something everytime you turn the key it works
[01:22] <reisio> heavy, expensive disguise
[01:22] <netlar> dhia: uhh no, it is not open
[01:22] <hewhomust> linux is probably better because of the proprietary hardware
[01:22] <reisio> ...
[01:23] <hewhomust> that mac stuffs down users throats
[01:23] <Malgorath> btw OS X is based on BSD but MAC is hardware, which runs windows, OSX, and linux
[01:23] <reisio> worst convo ever
[01:23] <Malgorath> hewhomust: not really, you can opt to buy something else.
[01:23] <daniel11> thnks Malgorath. nothing unusual in the logs or dmesg, just my xorg log says that it cant find any screens. above which it says it isnt going to enable any screens because my nvidia adapter doesnt have its power cables attached. the fuck? anyone heard of this problem before?
[01:23] <daniel11> resio: yes.
[01:23] <hewhomust> still linux or windows is significantly easier to build a custom pc
[01:24] <reisio> daniel11: r, e, i, TAB
[01:24] <hewhomust> unless you go hackintosh
[01:24] <netlar> As I see it , biggest issue I have with Linux is that not enough software companies write softwear for it
[01:24] <reisio> netlar: how does that bother you?
[01:24] <tigrang> Is there a way to focus multiple windows progamatically at once. Currently I'm doing wmctrl -a in a loop, but I'd like all the windows to unminimize at once
[01:25] <reisio> tigrang: that isn't at once enough for you?
[01:25] <hewhomust> netlar: I don't really do anything that proprietary software is significantly better for
[01:25] <Malgorath> hewhomust: again, depends on more factors then just which is gud, its about reliablility. Also not many PCs I see come with 3 year protection that mac comes with
[01:25] <netlar> reisio: There are some titles that I would love to see on Linux, but have to use mac or even windoze to use
[01:25] <reisio> netlar: for example?
[01:25] <tigrang> reisio: I can see the first window raise, then the next, then the next with a delay - I'd like all to raise at the same time, if possible
[01:25] <netlar> Well, Intuit has tax sofware and quicken that i rely on
[01:25] <hewhomust> Malgorath: yeah macs does win in some areas
[01:26] <reisio> netlar: Unixland has alternatives to those that you could rely on instead
[01:26] <netlar> And no photoshop
[01:26] <reisio> has alternatives to that as well
[01:26] <netlar> reisio: I really do love gnucash, except for the reports
[01:26] <reisio> tigrang: there's a command or two for running commands simultaneously
[01:26] <reisio> tigrang: I forget its name
[01:26] <hewhomust> netlar: gimp but thats debatable as to how good it is compared to photoshop
[01:26] <Malgorath> hewhomust: actually mac wins in more areas then its given credit for(I'm talking the whole package of OSX and MAC Hardware)  Such as most software coming out today can run on a 3 or 4 year old mac pro.  Plus mac is easier for non-tech users
[01:27] <reisio> hewhomust: not any more debatable than anything else
[01:27] <tigrang> reisio: i've tried using a ; as well as & between the commands, but in that case no window gets raised, wondering if there's another tool or some other way to go about this
[01:27] <reisio> tigrang: GNU parallel
[01:27] <netlar> reisio: Actually now tthat I think of it, it is only really those three titles
[01:28] <reisio> netlar: quicken & photoshop?
[01:28] <tigrang> reisio: thanks, ill try that
[01:28] <netlar> reisio: and proseries, from intuit
[01:28] <reisio> tigrang: if that doesn't work, you might look into devilspie / devilspie2
[01:28] <reisio> I think personally I'd try to make the parallel run work, though
[01:29] <reisio> netlar: so what's missing from gnucash?
[01:29] <mobile> hey all. this is my fstab entry for fstab.. but only root can access it. anyone how to make this allowed to all
[01:29] <mobile> sshfs#website.com:/opt/Music/ /home/luser/Music fuse -p4444 0 0
[01:29] <netlar> reisio: I know I am being pretty shallow, but they are not as pretty
[01:29] <Malgorath> hewhomust: good point is laptops. Windows laptop cost you maybe 400$ but its hardware gets dated in a year to where you have to upgrade to a new one. Where as a mac pro laptop (1100$) will stay usable for 3 to 5 years with an amazing warranty
[01:30] <reisio> mobile: probably user or gid options or the like
[01:30] <daniel11> I dont think my nvidia card *has* a power cord. why would that stop x starting and make me unable to get to tty?
[01:30] <reisio> netlar: pretty?
[01:30] <hewhomust> Malgorath: but isn't that an unfair comparison, for example any 1100 dollar laptop will last longer than a 400 dollar one
[01:30] <netlar> reisio: the gui and screens of some of the apps are not that polished
[01:30] <hewhomust> Malgorath: the warranty is true though
[01:30] <reisio> netlar: which ones?
[01:30] <netlar> reisio: I know the functionality is there, but I am used to pretty
[01:31] <netlar> reisio: gnucash for one
[01:31] <Malgorath> hewhomust: its not really unfair
[01:32] <Malgorath> hewhomust: both are used for word processing, web surfing, video chatings/watching
[01:32] <reisio> netlar: so gnucash isn't quicken, that's your complaint? :p
[01:32] <mobile> reisio: the guid of my server user or the user on the client.. server right, that makes more sense
[01:32] <reisio> or was there something else?
[01:32] <reisio> me, when I'm dealing with taxes
[01:32] <reisio> the only thing on my mind is being done
[01:33] <netlar> reisio: It is like being married to a pretty girl, then get devorced and marrying a girl who is a great cook and fun to be with but not nearly as pretty
[01:33] <reisio> so fix it :p
[01:33] <hewhomust> netlar: you could always modify it if you want lol but I would pick the other girl
[01:33] <reisio> if a few people paid a single developer as much as they pay for quicken, it would be however you want it to look by now
[01:33] <reisio> and the dev would be rich :p
[01:34] <reisio> so you wouldn't even have to pay that much
[01:34] <cmck193> where do i go to get help with wine?
[01:34] <netlar> reisio: That is something I think about, I would be so willing to pay for software on linux
[01:34] <reisio> cmck193: what kind of help?
[01:34] <Malgorath> reisio: have you seen that 48min youtube video, why linux sucks?
[01:34] <reisio> there's plenty of software to pay for, but it tends to be inferior
[01:34] <daniel11> I cant uninstall nvidia drivers because dpkg is locked. I cant restore my xorg settings because xorg.conf doesnt exist (only xorg.conf.failsafe). help?
[01:34] <moes> netlar, Then invest in moneydance
[01:34] <cmck193> reisio: I want to install rift.
[01:34] <reisio> pay a developer, have him make the software you think is imperfect to be perfect
[01:34] <netlar> Malgorath: I have seen that video
[01:35] <Malgorath> that guy has some really valid ideas.
[01:35] <reisio> cmck193: read the version links at http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12482
[01:35] <mobile> says guid=500 not a recognised command in fstab
[01:35] <magdur> hey guys i have a problem about my computer, it is too hot when i use ubuntu on the other hand it is not too hot when i use windows, what can i do
[01:35] <reisio> mobile: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sshfs%22%20%22fstab%22%20%22user%22
[01:35] <Enissay> What happened? my apache/php isnt working anymore after installing updates :(
[01:35] <reisio> magdur: define too hot
[01:35] <mobile> perfect thanks!
[01:36] <Malgorath> reisio: loved his talk about linux having to many splinter projects instead of a focus.  I always felt linux had to many cooks in to many different but very similar kitchens
[01:36] <daniel11> enissay: check your apache log files.
[01:36] <reisio> Malgorath: whose talk?
[01:36] <hewhomust> why linux sucks
[01:36] <Malgorath> reisio: the video, why linux sucks
[01:36] <reisio> mmm
[01:36] <netlar> moes: I would love to pay for gnucash if it meant they polished it up
[01:36] <cmck193> reisio: when i try to install required components with winetricks i get "wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string
[01:36] <reisio> we don't have too many projects, we have exactly as many as are required
[01:36] <reisio> it is impossible for it to be otherwise
[01:36] <jrib> netlar: you can offer bounties for specific tasks you want done
[01:36] <reisio> free software is organic
[01:37] <its_steve> hello all......can someone help me with my grub please?   I've edited it to boot to windows by default....but it continues to boot to ubuntu 12.04 and when i choose to boot to windows, nothing happens.
[01:37] <magdur> :reisio warm
[01:37] <netlar> jrib serious?
[01:37] <jrib> netlar: sure
[01:37] <netlar> jrib: How does that work
[01:37] <daniel11> can anyone help me with my problem please? I cant uninstall nvidia drivers because dpkg is locked. I cant restore my xorg settings because xorg.conf doesnt exist (only xorg.conf.failsafe). help?
[01:37] <reisio> cmck193: talk to #winehq then
[01:37] <magdur> reisio: warm
[01:37] <reisio> magdur: warm
[01:37] <reisio> daniel11: do you have software center open? close it
[01:38] <daniel11> I have no xserver running. I certainly do not hve software center open.
[01:38] <hewhomust> magdur how old is your hardware?
[01:38] <etfb> Odd problem with LibreOffice in the last few versions of Ubuntu with Unity: the Alt+key menu keys don't work.  I press Alt+F and it doesn't open the File menu, for instance.  Anyone else seeing that?
[01:38] <Malgorath> reisio: I understand that, but that is also what keeps a lot of dev time all over the map. I think linus needs to rise up and rule the masses :D
[01:38] <magdur> just a year
[01:38] <magdur> ı take it last year
[01:38] <etfb> Works OK in Windows, and in Xubuntu with Xfce, so I think it's a Unity bug.
[01:38] <Enissay> daniel11, /var/log/apache2/error.log ?
[01:38] <daniel11> yes
[01:38] <Malgorath> daniel11: what type of video card do you have?
[01:39] <daniel11> nvidia something. 6500 probably.
[01:39] <daniel11> old one these days.
[01:39] <Malgorath> daniel11: was this after a fresh install of 13.04?
[01:39] <jrib> netlar: you basically, say I promise to give $X to person who implements Y.  You might want to check on gnucash mailing list about details (like if they have their own specific bounty program).  If not, there's probably some more general site like launchpad or something else where you can post your bounty
[01:39] <daniel11> enissay: sudo tail /var/log/apache2/error.log
[01:39] <daniel11> malgorath: fresh + 1 day
[01:40] <jrib> netlar: here you go: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bounty_Program
[01:40] <Malgorath> daniel11: did it ever start up correctly?
[01:40] <netlar> jrib: I probably would not offer much more than $100, not sure how far that would go
[01:40] <Malgorath> netlar: you offer $100, 500 other people offer 100$, that motivates a dev team purdy fast :D
[01:40] <daniel11> yep, lots of times. the most recent thign I did was install the (tested) nvidia binary drivers for hardware acceleration. so I reckon that is what is cuaisng the problem starting x.
[01:40] <its_steve> hello all......can someone help me with my grub please?   I've edited it to boot to windows by default....but it continues to boot to ubuntu 12.04 and when i choose to boot to windows, nothing happens
[01:41] <Malgorath> daniel11: try to remove the binary driver
[01:41] <netlar> so is that like indiegogo
[01:41] <hewhomust> its_steve: What do you mean?
[01:41] <hewhomust> and where did you install grub
[01:41] <jrib> netlar: I'd hit up their mailing list about how you can help
[01:41] <daniel11> Malgorath: dpkg is locked. not sure how to unlock it to use apt-get.
[01:41] <its_steve> I can't boot to my win 2003 server .....dual boot system
[01:41] <netlar> jrib: Thanks , good eye opener
[01:42] <Malgorath> daniel11:  ps aux | grep dpkg
[01:42] <daniel11> Malgorath: Umm just the ps process itself. I'm on a root recovery console btw.
[01:42] <cmck193> looks like #winehq is a dud
[01:43] <magdur> whatever in here anyone interest with my problem ?, my computer is warm too much
[01:43] <hewhomust> its_steve: how did you install it?
[01:43] <its_steve> win 2003 first...then ubuntu
[01:43] <hewhomust> magdur whats your cpu usage?
[01:43] <Enissay> daniel11, nothing new... only some old errors while I was testing... the fact is that php code is displayed as text on my browser now... nothing is working xD
[01:43] <Malgorath> daniel11: If it was me, and you hadn't done much on this box, re install and use the nouveau driver, its gonna give you the most bang outta that card anyways
[01:43] <hewhomust> its_steve: how did you install it?
[01:44] <magdur> hewhomust: average %5
[01:44] <daniel11> Enissay: I do this for a living. PM me.
[01:44] <magdur> @hewhomust average %5
[01:44] <Malgorath> Enissay: you probably disabled .php files in an httpd.conf file(or sub file)
[01:44] <its_steve> installed win 2003 first..then ubuntu with the live cd
[01:44] <hewhomust> magdur: Thats weird the hardware doesn't seem to be taxed too much
[01:45] <hewhomust> magdur: are you sure its not just psychological
[01:45] <Malgorath> its_steve: have you tried fix-boot? its pretty good at fixing grub boo boos
[01:45] <icedwater> Hi! I'm trying to log in on my desktop (12.04 LTS) but it keeps redirecting me to a login screen. Any idea what I should do?
[01:45] <its_steve> Malgorath.....nope, never heard of it...I'll look it up
[01:46] <Malgorath> its fixed a few grub issues for me.
[01:46] <reisio> Malgorath: he couldn't if he wanted to
[01:46] <icedwater> It has to be an issue with X since my consoles are fine. They weren't before though, so it's probably not *just* an X thing.
[01:46] <daniel11> Malgorath - the first thing I did was copy a huge bunch of old files onto the drive for safekeeping. and configured a bunch of stuff relating to network shares. if theres any way to brute-force removal of nvidia drivers from the recovery root terminal I'd rather do that. besides, this exact thing happened two years ago and I havent touched ubuntu since. if I go down that route, I dont know if I'll be able to persuade myself to..
[01:46] <Malgorath> its_steve: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:47] <cmck193> how would i go about a complete reinstall of iwne
[01:47] <its_steve> tyvm Malgorath
[01:47] <Malgorath> daniel11: let my test my google-fu and see what I can find for you, I know I had something like that once, but it was in gentoo
[01:47] <daniel11> thanks Malgorath :-)
[01:48] <daniel11> cmck193: I dont know much about wine, but i've been really impressed by the framework and support offered by playonlinux / playonmac. I'd look into doing whatever it is you're trying to do with them instead.
[01:48] <Malgorath> daniel11: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal
[01:48] <cmck193> join #playonlinux
[01:49] <Malgorath> cmck193: what are you trying to do in wine? sorry I missed what you said
[01:49] <Enissay> Malgorath, what files exactly so i'll check them
[01:49] <Malgorath> daniel11: looks like from recovery prompt you type apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current
[01:49] <Enissay> I already checked files I modified before, and everything seems to be okay
[01:50] <cmck193> Malgorath: i'm trying to install rift.  following the directions on winehq to install required components i get "wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string
[01:50] <cmck193> "
[01:50] <cmck193> Malgorath: not sure what i did there.
[01:50] <Malgorath> Enissay: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP and just double check your steps in there to see if anythign doesn't match
[01:50] <icedwater> Fixed, it was permissions on .Xauthority. Thanks, askubuntu.com
[01:51] <Malgorath> cmck193: isn't its echo '%Program Files%'
[01:51] <icedwater> Odd that it seemed to mangle my font sizes in the console too though.
[01:51] <Malgorath> cmck193: pretty sure there is a space in there
[01:51] <Malgorath> might need '%Program\ Files%'
[01:52] <Malgorath> cmck193: btw that command is to just show you the path to C:\Program Files\
[01:52] <cmck193> but it doesn't start winetricks
[01:54] <Malgorath> cmck193: perhaps you don't need to install anything
[01:54] <Malgorath> cmck193: you can also run winetricks from CLI on your own and install what you need
[01:54] <cmck193> ok?  the rift installer will not work
[01:55] <Malgorath> cmck193: whats it a gold or platinum rating on winehq?
[01:56] <Gabboz> Hi.
[01:56] <Malgorath> and the 'installer wont work' is just a lazy way of looking at it, run the command from CLI and see what the error is, sometimes it says things like "Needs vcreditinst.exe" or some crazy thing like that and you use winetricks to install it
[01:56] <Malgorath> Hello Gabboz
[01:56] <Gabboz> I have a PC which has a flaky on-board VGA.  What .iso would I go for to have a completely text-mode installer?  I want this PC to run as a file server.  BTW, 12.04 is preferred.  Thanks.
[01:56] <tigrang> reisio: neither seem like they'd work, thanks tho
[01:56] <reisio> tigrang: neither what?
[01:57] <cmck193> gold
[01:57] <Malgorath> cmck193: have you looved at http://forums.riftgame.com/game-discussions/rift-guides-strategies/technical-guides/91513-guide-installing-rift-linux-ubuntu-10-10-winetricks.html
[01:57] <tigrang> reisio: parallel or devilspie
[01:57] <reisio> tigrang: lies!
[01:57] <Malgorath> cmck193: er have you looked at...
[01:57] <tigrang> reisio: well parallel with wmctrl I know doesnt work, tried it, but too lazy at this point to try devilspie :P
[01:57] <cmck193> Malgorath: i'm running 13.04 will the 10.10 still work?
[01:58] <Malgorath> cmck193: lot of the 'old' posts have a lot of relivant info
[01:58] <reisio> tigrang: either parallel works at all or it doesn't
[01:58] <reisio> wmctrl shouldn't be a factor
[01:59] <tigrang> reisio: wel this is what my script generated and ran: parallel --gnu wmctrl -i -a {1} ::: 0x00e00003 ::: 0x01000021 ::: 0x01c00007 ::: 0x03400005 ::: 0x0360002d ::: 0x038000a0 ::: 0x03c00003 ::: 0x0340046d
[02:00] <tigrang> reisio: and no window raised
[02:00] <reisio> tigrang: mmm, maybe try using at
[02:00] <magdur> i m sure that because when i use windows, my computer is colder than installed ubuntu
[02:01] <reisio> magdur: how're you sure
[02:02] <magdur> i touch my computer and i check it is warm
[02:02] <tigrang> reisio: isnt that scheduling, how would that be used for this?
[02:02] <reisio> I'm afraid your hand is not a scientific instrument of measurement
[02:03] <reisio> tigrang: to make them happen simultaneously
[02:03] <reisio> alas, seems to have the same delay as parallel
[02:03] <magdur> i wish i compare to result of warm measurement
[02:03] <hewhomust> magdur: you should find a sensor monitor then check the temos
[02:03] <hewhomust> temps
[02:04] <magdur> how can ı ceck it ?
[02:04] <reisio> tigrang: some window manager do groups
[02:04] <somsip> !lm-sensors | magdur
[02:04] <magdur> sorry about that so i am a new user ubuntu
[02:04] <Ben64> sensors don't always return the same value on windows and linux
[02:05] <tigrang> reisio: so group those windows (I'd have to see if possible and how) then wmctrl on the parent window/group id?
[02:07] <magdur> while i install lm-sensors i take some warning
[02:08] <magdur> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Suggested packages:   fancontrol sensord read-edid i2c-tools The following NEW packages will be installed:   lm-sensors 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 432 not upgraded. Need to get 100 kB of archives. After this operation, 404 kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe l
[02:08] <magdur> Setting up lm-sensors (1:3.3.1-2ubuntu2) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[02:08] <magdur> what can i do now ?
[02:10] <magdur> are there here anyone for help me?
[02:11] <reisio> tigrang: sounds like a plan
[02:12] <tigrang> any tip on the window groups,having a hard time finding any info on that
[02:12] <Malgorath> tigrang: depends on your WM
[02:12] <tigrang> Malgorath: Gala
[02:13] <Malgorath> ... never used it.
[02:15] <goddard> how can I undo a delete from nautilus in a mounted drive
[02:15] <goddard> ?
[02:17] <Malgorath> look in the trash, but you left so meh
[02:17] <THE_GFR|WORK> Ubuntu 13.04 PPC won't work, bugged out with a reported bug, that sucks I wanted to try it
[02:18] <Malgorath> They Make a PPC version of 13.04?
[02:19] <somsip> THE_GFR|WORK: it seems to have been dying for a while and will be deprecated http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/ubuntu-ditching-powerpc-builds
[02:19] <somsip> s/deprecated/dropped
[02:23] <Q_Continuum> Attempting to install 12.04.2 LTS from the alternative ISO written to a flash drive, but they all keep coming out corrupt (thunderbird package) - even when the ISO is good.
[02:23] <Q_Continuum> (using the alternative one for FDE)
[02:24] <Q_Continuum> (Two flash drives so far, same package corrupt when the ISO checksum'd fine)
[02:24] <Malgorath> Q_Continuum: is it running out of space?
[02:24] <bdd_newbie> Is there a way to open a terminal window using another terminal command
[02:24] <Q_Continuum> 4GB and 16GB flash drives, 120GB SSD with nothing on it.
[02:24] <Q_Continuum> (told to use the whole disk)
[02:25] <somsip> bdd_newbie: just execute the terminal command with a &, eg urxvt & (yours may not be urxvt)
[02:25] <VarunVijayarghav> Hi, we are running ubuntu server 12.04
[02:25] <VarunVijayarghav> Is it safe to delete the /usr/share/fonts/truetype folder?
[02:25] <VarunVijayarghav> It's consuming the most space on the root partiition
[02:26] <reisio> neat
[02:26] <Malgorath> VarunVijayarghav: could always just rename it reboot and see
[02:26] <jrib> VarunVijayarghav: in general you shouldn't delete things managed by apt, but instead remove the packages you don't want
[02:26] <reisio> you shouldn't actually need any truetype fonts on a server install unless you're creating text of some kind
[02:26] <Q_Continuum> Downloading the ISO, MD5 tool and disk-writing utility on a different box since the only thing that isn't 'verified' is my desktop >.<
[02:26] <Q_Continuum> Ugh.
[02:27] <Q_Continuum> Just means another 45 minutes to install completion
[02:27] <Q_Continuum> ISO comes in fine but doesn't get written to USB flash drive fine.
[02:27] <bdd_newbie> somsip: i tried bash & it does not  really open another window
[02:27] <reisio> Q_Continuum: you use dd?
[02:27] <VarunVijayarghav> Thanks!
[02:27] <VarunVijayarghav> Will remove it using apt-get
[02:28] <somsip> bdd_newbie: try gnome-terminal &, if you're on a standard install
[02:29] <Q_Continuum> I used the pendrive linux installer to make the USB drive.
[02:30] <somsip> bdd_newbie: or echo $TERM if you're still getting nowhere, this will output the name of your terminal
[02:33] <KxTwo> hey guys maybe you can help me.  I am trying to download a torrent.  usually when I click on the link it opens up with transmission but now it is saying I need to choose a program?
[02:34] <Q_Continuum> So at this point its either my machine or Pendisk Linux's installer corrupting the write.  Testing on a different machine with a brand new flash drive with the same utility and a redownloaded MD5-passed ISO.
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, I missed you description, would you like to repaste it?
[02:36] <bdd_newbie> somsip: using ECHO $TERM outputs xterm , when I type xterm in my bash it transfers control to the other terminal and halts the current one...I want the current one to keep working
[02:36] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: I'd recommend using dd to write the iso to your usb flash drive (after being sure it is formatted fat32) using the command "sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX" where X is the letter of your usb drive (if you aren't sure you can find it using "df -h")
[02:37] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: I don't presently have a Linux-host machine to use dd from is the issue.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, Choose transmission, or make sure it is a compatible torrent file.
[02:37] <Malgorath> bdd_newbie: use xterm &
[02:37] <Q_Continuum> Wait...I do. *sigh*
[02:37]  * Q_Continuum grabs the one machine that is presently dual-booting
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, You can keep the darma out if you want my help.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> drama, lol
[02:37] <Q_Continuum> lol
[02:37] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: good, sometimes the gui installers do strange things
[02:37] <Q_Continuum> No just realizing I *do* have a Linux box handy
[02:38] <Q_Continuum> Don't use it often so didn't think about it
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> the sigh..etc is so irritating is all
[02:38] <KxTwo> wilee-nilee, when I click on choose program it just goes to my desktop and if i search for transmission it doesn't show up
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, Can you the open transmission and load it?
[02:39] <cynicist> KxTwo: what browser are you using?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, I use deluge.
[02:39] <KxTwo> I'm using the default firefox, nothing has changed I have no idea why it is doing this, I dl torrents regularly
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, The are several types of torrents.
[02:40] <bdd_newbie> ohk xterm & does that can I at the same time make it execute another command , without manually going to the new terminal?
[02:40] <cynicist> KxTwo: you can go to edit > preferences > applications and set the magnet association to the torrent client you are using
[02:40] <cynicist> KxTwo: (or torrent if you are actually downloading torrent files)
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> could just be bogus as well
[02:41] <Q_Continuum> Grabbing ISO on this other machine, will take a moment, then will dd it to the drive.
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, Cool, dd works fine.
[02:41] <KxTwo> hmm interestingly enough cynicist there are no torrent files listed under applications
[02:41]  * Q_Continuum <3's 100Mbit fiber and his ISP hosting mirrors for anything worthwhile
[02:42] <KxTwo> wilee-nilee, I am sure tehre is but I am clickon ghte same thing I always do
[02:42] <cynicist> KxTwo: you don't see any mention of magnet or BitTorrent seed file?
[02:42] <KxTwo> no I don't I searched for torrent and magnet as well to be sure
[02:42] <KxTwo> wait
[02:42] <KxTwo> think i found it
[02:43] <KxTwo> im in the same boat
[02:43] <KxTwo> magnet is set to always ask
[02:43] <KxTwo> it just brings me to recently used and I cant figure out how to set it to transmission
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, Not sure I use deluge.
[02:44] <KxTwo> lol
[02:44] <cynicist> KxTwo: click on "use other" and navigate to /usr/bin/transmission
[02:44] <cynicist> KxTwo: err "/usr/bin/transmission-gtk", whichever
[02:44] <KxTwo> thank you cynicist I tried to search for transmission but to no avail
[02:44] <cynicist> KxTwo: yw :)
[02:45] <KxTwo> lets see if this work
[02:45] <bdd_newbie> Malgorath: I need to execute a bash script in a separate terminal window in my ruby program
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> !lol > KxTwo
[02:46] <Malgorath> bdd_newbie: xterm script.sh &
[02:46] <KxTwo> Oh lord, get over it.
[02:46] <bdd_newbie> ohk thank you lemme try
[02:47] <KxTwo> ok cynicist it seems to have worked, I am not sure why the settings were changed
[02:47] <KxTwo> I downloaded something a week or so ago and it was working as usual
[02:47] <cynicist> KxTwo: no idea myself, I'm glad the solution worked for you though
[02:48] <KxTwo> it was just the fact of never remembering how to navigate to a program.  I dont know why search didn't work but I am glad you helped me :)
[02:48] <KxTwo> Oh wait is smiling ok?  don't want to get scolded again.
[02:50] <bdd_newbie> Malgorath: it says no absolute path found for shell , Any ideas why :S?
[02:51] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: got written out 'immediately' (I'm writing it from a Fedora box) - I had mounted it.  Waiting for the write to actually complete now.  (Claimed 2.5 seconds for the whole ISO, 300MB/sec)
[02:51] <Malgorath> bdd_newbie: are you giving the full path name for xterm? try which xterm, be something like /usr/bin/xterm
[02:52] <Shadowandlight> sudo apt-get install gufw fails... any idea why?
[02:52] <bdd_newbie> Malgorath: its says no absolute path found for shell : <file path> , looks like it is because of the file path....which is correct...any special location where i need to store my batch files
[02:53] <Q_Continuum> Hm, should've used a drive that has a light.
[02:53] <LuckySMack> i am on a surface pro, I tried installing raring but it doesnt seem to work. how can I remove grub so it boots back into windows properly again. once I do that I want to start over.
[02:54] <qin> Q_Continuum: instead of light: iotop
[02:54] <Malgorath> bdd_newbie: tbh you shouldn't be running shell commands from inside ruby.
[02:54] <somsip> !info gufw | Shadowandlight
[02:55] <somsip> Shadowandlight: what error?
[02:56] <Q_Continuum> qin: Perfect, exactly what I couldn't remember the name of!  Showing ~2MB/sec every other poll.
[02:57] <Shadowandlight> http://anonymousmedia.org/paste/a6hkKb0t
[02:57] <Shadowandlight> privatepaste detected that as spam haha
[02:57] <Shadowandlight> somsip:
[02:59] <bdd_newbie> hmmm
[02:59] <somsip> Shadowandlight: and what happened when you ran apt-get update ?
[03:00] <Shadowandlight> ah its in ip problem
[03:00] <Shadowandlight> hmm werid, i setup static ip...
[03:00] <Shadowandlight> and its not working
[03:01] <Shadowandlight> https://privatepaste.com/d2163957b1
[03:02] <Shadowandlight> what i mess up?
[03:02] <Shadowandlight> it pings?
[03:02] <LuckySMack> is there an easy way to restore normal efi booting in windows after installing ubuntu?
[03:02] <Sparrow_> hi
[03:05] <Galgorth> Does ubuntu support 1920x1080 resolution? I'm using Virtualbox w/ Ubuntu 64 bit 12.04 and after installing guest additions I'm only able to get the resolution up to 1600x1200.
[03:08] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: I had the drive mounted when I started dd operation, it now appears to be complete via iotop but df still shows only 24K used and attempts to browse the drive are met with an I/O error (On Fedora in XFCE).
[03:09] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: unplug the drive and plug it back in
[03:10] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: And working.  Now to hope this write worked unlike the last two (albit those were from windows)
[03:10] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: DD has not yet failed me :)
[03:10] <Q_Continuum> :-D
[03:11] <daniel11> all back and working again. so a question about those nvidia binaries - does no one use them? or do y'all just put up with crappy hardware acceleration? :-P
[03:12] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: I had deleted the files that were on it (from the previous failed image) then did the dd operation.  Booting to it I get 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt'
[03:12] <Q_Continuum> I'm gonna guess I screwed it up somehow. lol
[03:12] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: hmm, fortunately it is easy to test
[03:12] <Q_Continuum> plugged it back into the functional system
[03:13] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: format it as fat32 and try DD again, if that doesn't work I'd say you have a corrupt iso
[03:14] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: I md5sum'd it and it matched :-/
[03:14] <Q_Continuum> well...from what the mirror had for an md5
[03:15] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: I would try a different iso (downloaded using bittorrent is best for automatic file checking) and if that fails as well it could just be your flash drive having issues
[03:15] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: This is the second drive I've tried
[03:15] <Q_Continuum> anyway reformatting
[03:16] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: oh and be sure you are using "/dev/sdd" and not "/dev/sdd1"
[03:17] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: Oops that is probably what I did. lol
[03:18] <Q_Continuum> Well grabbing the torrent anyway
[03:18] <cynicist> Q_Continuum: believe me you aren't the only one, I remember spending an hour or two grabbing isos and testing my flash drive before I realized what I had done lol
[03:23] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: This time its actually writing it out instead of caching it to be flushed since I'm targeting /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sdb1
[03:24] <Q_Continuum> Should be much more useful
[03:28] <donphinney> I have a HP 2000 laptop that has an odd issue with Ubuntu desktop 64(and 32) as well as Lubuntu desktop 64(and 32) both normal install as well as alternate. after install the laptop display stay blank on reboot, but if you plug in an external monitor allow it time to detect the external display, then unplug it the laptop display comes on and works fine until next reboot...
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> donphinney, Have you tried a nomodeset boot to get in and check for graphic drivers after a update if needed in additional drivers
[03:32] <Q_Continuum> cynicist: Out of paranoia making this one check itself too.
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> donphinney, Not sure why you are having to do all that, but here is some info. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201011-6700/
[03:33] <donphinney> Does not seem to need additional drivers, it detects the display fine after I plug in and external then unplug it.
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> donphinney, You are probably right, not sure of the issue though, has does the live cd go?
[03:35] <Q_Continuum> ...and verified good.  Starting install.
[03:35] <donphinney> live cd for normal desktop needs external monitor, and has same issue
[03:36] <drusepth> Hmm. Is "The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/" a common error when installing the latest x64 desktop iso on a new (efi) laptop?
[03:36] <drusepth> laptop model is lenovo yoga 13
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> donphinney, I see this problem listed in these threads, maybe some info there. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=HP+2000
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, A smattering of applause for the effort. ;)
[03:38] <Q_Continuum> wilee-nilee: Thanks ;)
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> Q_Continuum, If anything we give moral support. ;)
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | drusepth have you looked here.
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> drusepth, More info, the UF and that mod is the best help, make a thread they will stop by. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[03:40] <mrdeb> yes uefi is my microsoft to stop linux install
[03:40] <mrdeb> by
[03:40] <donphinney> willee I have exhasted those options before I came to the chat room :-(
[03:40] <drusepth> Yes, I went through the steps there last night, wilee-nilee
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, Funny MS is the biggest contributer to the linux kernel.
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/linux-kernel-in-2011-15-million-total-lines-of-code-and-microsoft-is-a-top-contributor/
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, The anti OS does not really go well on any channel
[03:44] <pvl1> what app should i use to host/serv debs via apt
[03:45] <snufft> hey guys. i've just checked to see what disks are on my machine with ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and it's given me 3 results. 2 of them start with dm-[number] and the other is sda1. what would the dm disks be for? swap?
[03:46] <pvl1> snufft: fdisk -l
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> snufft, What is your definition of discs, it seems you have it mixed with partitions?
[03:47] <irssi-mike> snufft: ls is listing the contents of your present working directory, not the disks themselves
[03:48] <snufft> pvl1: fdisk -l returns nothing
[03:48] <pvl1> snufft: sudo fdisk -l
[03:49] <irssi-mike> snufft: df -h
[03:49] <snufft> wilee-nilee: aside from swap, there are no other partitions on this machine that i'm aware of
[03:49] <pvl1> irssi-mike: think thats my fave :)
[03:49] <Shadowandlight> sudo apt-get install apache2-dev wont download?
[03:49] <snufft> irssi-mike: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ is giving me dir of /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[03:49] <Shadowandlight> !info apache2-dev
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> snufft, Really no operating systems all unallocated
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> snufft, Pastebin sudo fdsik -l
[03:50] <snufft> wilee-nilee: sorry, swap and the os partition
[03:50] <snufft> pvl1: that's what I needed, thanks :)
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> sudo fdisk -l*
[03:50] <irssi-mike> snufft: oh, okay sorry
[03:51] <pvl1> snufft: no problem
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> snufft, Cool, it seems you are getting what you need.
[03:51] <pvl1> hey there wilee-nilee, found an awesome package for my little project. deborphan
[03:52] <irssi-mike> snufft: swapon -s
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Cool, that was a cutom ISO right?
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> custom*
[03:54] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: indeed!
[03:56] <hulu> helo everyone
[03:56] <hulu> why the gnome-terminal can't setup
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> !details | hulu
[04:00] <hulu> wilee-nilee: I have a problem with gnome-terminal. I'm running Ubuntu version 13.04. When I try to config the gnome-terminal the setup windows is gray
[04:01] <theadmin> hulu: Err... I'm not sure I understand the problem. Gray?
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> snufft: i hear someone recommend swapspace yesterday, maybe its also usefull for you?
[04:01] <hulu> theadmin: gray means can't config
[04:02] <pvl1> hulu: config how...
[04:02] <hulu> all config is gray
[04:02] <theadmin> hulu: Oh... Hm. Oddity. This is an odd suggestion, but run gnome-terminal from a terminal (another instance of gnome-terminal, or maybe xterm) and paste the output when it hangs
[04:03] <theadmin> hulu: Never mind, it doesn't produce any :/
[04:03] <anonee> hi, say added user1 to make daemon1 run before i login, user1 doesn't have a password by default, then later I added a password, and deleted that password again. is the user is still supposed to be able to run daemon1 before me or any user with gui logs into the system?
[04:04] <hulu> theadmin: no output
[04:04] <anonee> is the user still*
[04:04] <theadmin> anonee: The presence of a password shouldn't matter to Upstart.
[04:05] <anonee> thank you theadmin!
[04:05] <hulu> theadmin: i guess the .gconf User rights
[04:06] <hulu> theadmin: but when i change the owner to current user, still can't config
[04:06] <theadmin> hulu: Hm. Yes, those could be a problem...
[04:07] <theadmin> hulu: Also ~/.gnome and such.
[04:08] <pvl1> hulu: are you running dpkg-reconfigure, are you editing the config file... what do you mean config
[04:08] <theadmin> pvl1: (s)he means opening the preferences dialog.
[04:08] <anonee> what'
[04:08] <anonee> sorry, what's the meaning of thinClient?
[04:09] <theadmin> anonee: Eh. A machine whose sole purpose is to connect to another machine via some remote desktop thingy
[04:09] <hulu> theadmin: yes
[04:10] <pvl1> theadmin: thank you
[04:10] <pvl1> hulu: open a terminal, killall instances of gnome-terminal, and run it from terminal with debug option, and then open config
[04:10] <pvl1> hulu: or go dig through your logs
[04:11] <pvl1> hulu: less  /var/log/whateverTHEgnomeLOGfileIS
[04:11] <pvl1> anonee: passwords dont matter if root is telling the user what to do
[04:12] <theadmin> pvl1: Gnome-Terminal wouldn't log to /var/log, it requires root access to write to.
[04:12] <anonee> pvl1 thank you, now I understand more
[04:12] <hulu> pvl1: can't find /var/log/whateverTHEgnomeLOGfileIS
[04:12] <hulu> pvl1: how to run debug mode
[04:14] <bertogatti> hulu: gnome-terminal --gtk-debug=ALL
[04:14] <pvl1> im not running.... thanks bertogatti
[04:14] <bertogatti> hulu: I'm not sure
[04:15] <pvl1> i assumed gnome-terminal -V or -v or g or d
[04:15] <bertogatti> hulu: you can look through gnome-terminal --help-all
[04:16] <hulu> pvl1: thx
[04:16] <hulu> bertogatti: thx
[04:16] <hulu> let me try
[04:17] <anonee> thanks to all, bye bye.
[04:18] <hulu> pvl1: no any message
[04:18] <theblindowl> hi. please someone help me install a tar.gz program
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> theblindowl, you checked the repos first to see if you need the tar?
[04:19] <hulu> pvl1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931448/
[04:19] <theadmin> I swear... why don't people get this... theblindowl: .tar.gz is an archive, it can contain absolutely anything.
[04:19] <bertogatti> theblindowl: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[04:21] <bertogatti> hulu: the window is blank for Edit > Profile Preferences, but does the same thing happen for other windows like Edit > Profiles, Terminal > Title, etc.?
[04:21] <theblindowl> brothers please write the command for me. this is where the file is : /home/theblindowl/Downloads/reaver-1.4.tar.gz
[04:21] <bertogatti> theblindowl: check out the link
[04:22] <theadmin> theblindowl: reaver is in the repositories. "sudo apt-get install reaver". And we're not your brothers.
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> reaver-1.4.tar.gz - reaver-wps - Reaver v1.4 - "Brute force attack ..."
[04:23] <pvl1> hulu: can you try running gnome-panel from terminal, and opening this config. if anything is output from terminal, pastebin please
[04:23] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Eh. Security testing. Nothing wrong with that... Depends on how you use it, though.
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, Yeah. ;)
[04:23] <theblindowl> theadmin,  I'm running ubuntu 12.04 brother. and i cannot find those packages you mentioned
[04:24] <theadmin> theblindowl: Oh, it indeed is not in Precise.
[04:24] <theadmin> theblindowl: You could search for a PPA. I have no idea what their tarball is. AND DON'T CALL ME BROTHER :/ It's offensive.
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> I hardly think our "brother has good intentions", they cannot even install it, security testing is super geekville
[04:24] <theblindowl> theadmin,  so what should i do bro
[04:25] <hulu> bertogatti: the Edit > Profile Preferences is gray, but the Terminal > Title can run
[04:25] <bertogatti> theblindowl: i repeat http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html
[04:25] <pvl1> theblindowl: start from the basics
[04:25] <hulu> pvl1: i havn't the gnome-panel
[04:26] <pvl1> theblindowl: http://bit.ly/14B4prJ
[04:26] <theblindowl> thanks brothers
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> bad pvl1 no soup for you. ;)
[04:26] <pvl1> hulu: im sorry i didnt understand. you havent the gnome panel?
[04:27] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: ;) gotta teach somehow right
[04:27] <theadmin> !google | pvl1
[04:27] <pvl1> :(
[04:27] <theblindowl> Sorry guys my english is bad
[04:27] <xmetal> alot of times a simple websearch (i use duckduckgo or startpage) would answer alot of the basic questions
[04:27] <hulu> pvl1: what's the gnome panel command
[04:27] <theadmin> pvl1: Also, although it's not a rule, URL shorteners are evil. You can usually tell what the link might be from looking at the URL, but with URL shorteners... who knows?
[04:28] <pvl1> hulu: oh oops gnome-terminal sorry
[04:28] <bertogatti> hulu: at worst you can always try Guake
[04:28] <pvl1> theadmin: fair enoughm i chose the second button to shorten so itd look pretty. i think im ocd
[04:28] <pvl1> theadmin: next time perhaps ill make it more obvious
[04:28] <pvl1> jk
[04:29] <xmetal> i (when using tinyurl's shortener) change the http://www.tinyurl/whatever to http://preview.tinyurl/whatever ... thisw way without any addons needed it will take you to the site that TELLS YOU where your going
[04:29] <xmetal> then you can click the link there to "go there"
[04:29] <hulu> bertogatti: what means Guake
[04:29] <theadmin> xmetal: Works with is.gd too: http://is.gd/blah to http://is.gd/blah+
[04:30] <xmetal> i fully understand not wanting to click a link, not knowing where it's going
[04:30] <bertogatti> bertogatti: another shell emulator
[04:30] <theadmin> xmetal: Err, - not +
[04:30] <bertogatti> *****hulu:
[04:32] <hulu> pvl1: let me try
[04:34] <bertogatti> hulu: I have to go, sorry i couldn't help, hope you solve your problem
[04:38] <rreed> My mouse won't register any changes from the default setting. After lowering the sensitivity and closing the Mouse Settings window, it resets every time. Any suggestions?
[04:39] <pvl1> resets after closing the window you mean?
[04:39] <holstein> rreed: so, it "registers" the settings? and resets them?
[04:39] <rreed> pvl1,  Yes, after I close the window, it resets.
[04:40] <rreed> holstein, It registers the settings if I raise it from default, but not when I lower it.
[04:40] <rreed> Was fixing to go try to edit my xorg.conf, but figured I'd check in here to see if anyone might have any other ideas.
[04:40] <pvl1> rreed: have you tried editing the config files for X (im pretty sure its X?)
[04:41] <pvl1> ;)
[04:41] <hulu> pvl1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931479/
[04:41] <hulu> pvl1: i get this message
[04:41] <rreed> pvl1, At least I was headed in the right direction originally ;)
[04:41] <pvl1> rreed, i mean we CAN debug... but that could take god knows how long
[04:42] <holstein> hulu: what have you tried? all of those suggestions?
[04:42] <pentesterfdr> f
[04:42] <pvl1> hulu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-terminal
[04:44] <pvl1> hulu: as holstein said, try the suggestions in your message
[04:44] <hulu> pvl1: i have reconfig the gnome-termianl
[04:44] <holstein> hulu: have you tried all the other suggestions?
[04:44] <hulu> pvl1: i don't know how to do
[04:46] <outcoldman> just got my chromecast, it is awesome
[04:46] <holstein> hulu: you dont know how to do the suggestions from the output you gave? what are you having troube with?
[04:46] <pvl1> holstein: did the reconfig work
[04:46] <pvl1> holstein: their config windows for gnome-terminal comes up all grey
[04:47] <pvl1> hulu: did the reconfig work
[04:47] <hulu> holstein: i don't know how to do the suggestions
[04:47] <pvl1> outcoldman: how is it
[04:48] <holstein> hulu: what exactly do you not understand?
[04:49] <holstein> hulu: i would blow out the config first.. i also wouldnt hesitate to just install another terminal emulator
[04:50] <hulu> holstein: i don't know how to do
[04:50] <holstein> hulu: what do i suggest? try as a new user, then, if all is normal, you will know that the issue is in your user's /home
[04:51] <pvl1> holstein: does a dpkg-reconfigure wipe config files?
[04:51] <holstein> hulu: you have to say "i dont know how to follow step A" for example
[04:51] <holstein> pvl1: not sure...
[04:51] <outcoldman> pvl1, http://askubuntu.com/a/326233/169426
[04:52] <holstein> hulu: if you are saying, "i dont know how to follow the suggestions", im saying, read them... if you have a question about one, or need help interpreting one, past it here, and a volunteer can help
[04:52] <holstein> paste*
[04:56] <pvl1> outcoldman: how much was it
[04:56] <pvl1> and whats the quality on it
[04:56] <thunder1212> hi, i am enabling ufw and i have access to a network printer.. so will i allow an exception by sudo ufw allow 631/udp ?
[04:57] <holstein> thunder1212: if thats what the printer needs
[04:57] <thunder1212> holstein: how do i know? i assume the printer is accesed from port 631.
[04:58] <thunder1212> holstein: and does ufw really protect from hackers?
[04:58] <holstein> thunder1212: i wouldnt assume.. i would pull the firewall down, and test.. then you'll know the printer is working
[04:59] <holstein> thunder1212: you are likely behind a router, with a firewall, so does your system need one at home? you have to answer that
[04:59] <holstein> !firewall
[04:59] <holstein> !info gufw
[05:00] <holstein> thunder1212: ^^ thats a GUI frontend which should help.. but your printer could be on any port.. dont assume, consult the manufacturer
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | holstein
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:19] <Dresk|Laptop> Hey, so I'm switching over from Mandrake / Mageia, and the one BIG thing I loved about Mageia was drakxservices, the thing that listed everything that started at boot and had start / stop buttons and a checkbox for if it should start at boot - does Ubuntu have something similar?
[05:20] <santosh> How to get current brightness level of the screen?
[05:20] <theadmin> "Mandrake"... That's one I didn't hear in a while
[05:23] <santosh> programatically
[05:23] <murgero> Hey guys!
[05:23] <murgero> how is everyone?
[05:24] <babinlonston> I want to Open port Number 2812 and i need to acces it from remote ip how can i write iptables rules for this
[05:26] <ptuladhar> Seriously? username and password was compromised of ubuntuforums.org few days back??????
[05:26] <Someguy123> ptuladhar, a few days back?
[05:26] <Someguy123> it was nearly 2 weeks ago
[05:27] <ptuladhar> sad to hear that.
[05:28] <goddard> has anyone had luck using cross-fire with 7950's on ubuntu?
[05:28] <goddard> it seems to lock up on me when i try to use cross fire
[05:31] <YokoBR> hey guys, i'm using ubuntu 10.04, but i can't make vsftpd work...
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> YokoBR, desktop or server?
[05:32] <YokoBR> server
[05:32] <robertzaccour> Is there still an Ubuntu minimal install ISO?
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> YokoBR, I figured so.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, What release?
[05:33] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: current
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, The minimal is still there now called alternative I believe.
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[05:34] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: I mean like it used to be where it opens with no GUI with the repos at your hands so I can install whatever DE I want without having to bother with leftovers from another DE
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, Look at the link, that is what it is.
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> only the name has changed
[05:35] <theadmin> robertzaccour: The alternative downloads has a netinstall image. That's what you want.
[05:35] <YokoBR> vsftpd just won't work.  The version is 2.2.2, on Ubuntu 10.04
[05:35] <robertzaccour> theadmin: Oh ok thanks.
[05:36] <lgc> Hi, how can I bypass Unity?
[05:36] <asdasdasd> Hello friends and colleagues I would like to be friends and talk on the irc
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> lgc, What do you mean exactly?
[05:36] <asdasdasd> He mean dat u R da homsax
[05:37] <asdasdasd> I need halp wit my install uv debanto
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> !ot | asdasdasd
[05:37] <YokoBR> this is an off topic, but just to share because i'm so happy: today i've found my biological family on facebook. My biological sister, to be exact. Ok, sorry.
[05:37] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I mean having options, like something Gnome-like without having to uninstall Unity.
[05:38] <asdasdasd> unity is my favrte ice cream flabor of debanto
[05:38] <lgc> YokoBR: Really?
[05:38] <asdasdasd> yes
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Which gnome the gnome 3 desktop called the gnome-shell, or the fallback a pseudo gnome 2?
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> asdasdasd, This is not chat it is support, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <theadmin> lgc: The closest to the old, traditional Ubuntu style is Xfce. You can install Xubuntu, or xubuntu-desktop from the repos. It's got exactly the same feel, but more functional
[05:39] <lgc> Gnome 3 is sort of Unity-like, for what I've heard. I suppose I want the pseudo-gnome thing.
[05:39] <YokoBR> lgc, really, i couldn't believe that. They've lived in 3, 4 different cities. And then i've found an user with the same surname... so i've found her :)
[05:39] <YokoBR> we chatted all day and shared photos
[05:39] <theadmin> lgc: There's also gnome-fallback-session but it became rather limited now
[05:39] <YokoBR> 27 yeas
[05:39] <lgc> YokoBR: Congrats.
[05:39] <YokoBR> years
[05:39] <YokoBR> thanks, lgc :)
[05:39] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: Can the alternate install install Ubuntu without a DE at all?
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> YokoBR, #ubuntu-offtopic please and congrats. ;)
[05:40] <Dresk|Laptop> Shameless repost, beccause I would deeply appreciate a response! :) Hey, so I'm switching over from Mandrake / Mageia, and the one BIG thing I loved about Mageia was drakxservices, the thing that listed everything that started at boot and had start / stop buttons and a checkbox for if it should start at boot - does Ubuntu have something similar?
[05:40] <theadmin> robertzaccour: No, it's just a text installer for the full Ubuntu setup, use the mini.iso (netinstall)
[05:40] <YokoBR> sorry, wilee-nilee, and thanks for the tip
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, yeah, I believe it is the base without X if you add nothing
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> !nounity | lgc
[05:41] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: so would mini.iso or net installer be best for installing without a DE? I ask because I wanna install Mate on it without having another DE I don't want. Until Ubuntu has a Mate derivative that is.
[05:42] <vnc786> hello all !!! for last couple of months my dhcp service use to get start after boot (12.04 64bit) but last 2 days suddenly its is not getting at boot however tight now i have managed to start at boot by putting in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, I believe there are the same, the mini is now called the alternative.
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> they*
[05:42] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: oh ok thanks
[05:42] <lgc> theadmin, wilee-nilee, I'd like to try both, actually. Is it possible? Do I get to choose on the logon screen?
[05:42] <theadmin> lgc: Yup
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> the previous alternative was discontinued
[05:42] <vnc786> but was curious how it happened suddenly i have not update anything nor i have made any changes
[05:44] <sgo11> hi, is that possible to turn my socks proxy (ssh tunneling) to https proxy? I am using android sdk manager which only supports https proxy. thanks.
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> lgc, You can install both and there is a website that has meta lists for "some" of the desktops to remove any you don't want to keep
[05:44] <MarTrom> hi guys. having a lil trouble updating this system. its been in a box for a few months. running 12.04 LTS, it found 96 updates but getting 404 when trying to install em
[05:44] <theadmin> MarTrom: Maybe you should re-check for updates
[05:44] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I think I don't quite get the meta-list thing. Please explain.
[05:44] <theadmin> MarTrom: It may be trying to download old ones by some chance
[05:44] <gordonjcp> MarTrom: can you actually connect to the Internet?
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> lgc, see the playing around section for the meta lists. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[05:45] <theadmin> lgc: A metapackage is such a package that is empty, and it's sole purpose is to pull in other packages through dependencies
[05:45] <theadmin> lgc: ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop are examples
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Basicall if you install a desktop there are packages that can't be removed by just running a apt-get remove, so you want the whole list called a meta list.
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> Doh, you got it the adamk
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, ^^^
[05:46] <afflicto_> Hey guys. my gnome shell froze. I did ctrl+alt+f2 . how can I reset gnome shell?
[05:46] <afflicto_> not reset but restart. without restarting all my applications.
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> afflicto_, alt-fr-r from the desktop
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> sorry alt-f2-r
[05:47] <sgo11> afflicto_, can you run commands? or alt+f2?
[05:47] <MarTrom> gordonjcp, I am online right now from the system
[05:47] <afflicto_> ok thanks. turns out, I went back to GUI using ctlr+alt+f7 and it was automatically reset or something.
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> afflicto_, a restart from the desktop leaving all apps runing is alt-f2-r
[05:49] <lgc> theadmin: I can't find much of Xfce. In fact xubuntu-desktop doesn't seem to exist.
[05:50] <theadmin> lgc: ...huh?
[05:50] <theadmin> lgc: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <theadmin> lgc: Or click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/xubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <sgo11> hi, I can use ssh to create socks proxy. but now, I need https proxy. is that possible to turn my socks proxy to https proxy? thanks.
[05:52] <lgc> theadmin: Doesn't work. It doesn't seem to locate the package.
[05:52] <theadmin> lgc: ...What Ubuntu version is this?
[05:53] <lgc> theadmin: I just installed from a 12.04 CD.
[05:54] <theadmin> lgc: Okay. Hm. Install all updates and try again.
[05:54] <theadmin> lgc: The package lists may not be loaded yet
[05:54] <theadmin> lgc: Or just run sudo apt-get update
[05:54] <lgc> theadmin: I'll do the update first
[05:55] <Increase> Hello
[05:55] <Increase> Anyone here?
[05:55] <theadmin> Increase: Yup
[05:55] <Increase> Hey
[05:55] <Increase> I need help installing something
[05:55] <babinlonston> yes tell me
[05:55] <z8z> Increase: You see the list .... yes we are here+
[05:55] <theadmin> !details | Increase
[05:56] <Increase> Okay, I've got this download. I successfully extracted it and now when I sudo apt-get install or ./configure won't work
[05:56] <Increase> I can't cd to the folder on the desktop either
[05:56] <Increase> I've updated apt-get as well
[05:56] <theadmin> Increase: Is the software you're looking for in the repositories?
[05:57] <theadmin> Increase: If not, it won't work with apt
[05:57] <z8z> Increase: If you downloaded something you have to compile with configure unless is a binary or a package
[05:57] <Increase> I have no clue what the repositories is
[05:58] <theadmin> Increase: The Software Center?
[05:58] <z8z> Increase: Just a database of softwares
[05:58] <Increase> No, I'm not using the software center
[05:58] <z8z> to install stuff without you bother around downloading and installing... and also version is chosen by ubuntu team as the stable one
[05:59] <theadmin> Increase: Why not? It has a ton of software.
[05:59] <theadmin> Increase: And apt-get uses the same software database as the Software Centre, you can't just apt-get install a tarball anyway
[06:00] <Increase> I'm trying to get into network security and downloading reaver/aircrack-ng
[06:00] <Increase> First time using linux/ubuntu
[06:00] <Increase> Reaver isn't on the software center
[06:00] <z8z> Increase: you can add the repository and you have it too
[06:01] <theadmin> Increase: It is, at least on 13.04.
[06:01] <z8z> Increase: if you don't have in the list is because ubuntu team considered that unsafe or illegal
[06:01] <z8z> Increase: but still you can add specific repository and you have it
[06:01] <theadmin> z8z: Nah, they just can't add ALL the software to the database, after all, there's tons of it
[06:03] <lgc> theadmin: you were right. Upon updating it became aware of xubuntu-desktop.
[06:03] <z8z> well i can't  ever see any network attack tool in ubuntu repos
[06:03] <theadmin> lgc: Yay.
[06:03] <theadmin> z8z: aircrack-ng is. Reaver is, too, but only since Raring.
[06:04] <z8z> theadmin: ok probably became stable then
[06:04] <theadmin> z8z: Stability is not the issue, keeping track of thousands of pieces of software is :P And deciding whether their quality satisfies Ubuntu
[06:04] <lgc> by the way, I had trouble choosing the right keboard type. How can I do it again?
[06:04] <theadmin> lgc: Keyboard type? You mean Layout?
[06:05] <theadmin> s/L/l/
[06:05] <z8z> theadmin: yeah this is what i'm telling
[06:05] <lgc> theadmin: yep.
[06:05] <z8z> Increase: wanna save time? just install backtrack and you have everything you need
[06:05] <theadmin> lgc: Well, on Unity, System Settings -> Keyboard Layout, on Xfce, Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard.
[06:05] <qin> z8z
[06:06] <z8z> qin: What? :D
[06:07] <lgc> theadmin: It's not the same tool that configured it initially. It's quite limited, I think.
[06:07] <qin> z8z: from 10.10 you can include bt repos in ubuntu.... sorry strugle with pad
[06:07] <z8z> theadmin: can you tell me why ubuntu team consider normal quality a package like krusader?
[06:07] <theadmin> z8z: I don't see anything wrong with it.
[06:07] <z8z> qin: oh good ... didn't know that
[06:08] <z8z> theadmin: full of bugs
[06:08] <theadmin> z8z: Hm. I never used it. Midnight Commander ftw ;)
[06:08] <z8z> theadmin: well.... it also says is a beta but
[06:09] <z8z> theadmin: midnight as too few feature compared to krusader
[06:10] <z8z> theadmin: if just Jean (the developer) fix those remaining bugs the 2.4.0 version is best twin panel in the world
[06:11] <lgc> theadmin: do you know of any other tool for keyboard configuration?
[06:13] <theadmin> lgc: Uh. No, not really
[06:13] <theadmin> z8z: Hamsters.
[06:13] <lgc> theadmin: OK, thanks.
[06:13] <cappicard> good evening. I have 13.04 on my desktop. Every time I  try to plug in my xbox controller, I keep getting  "unable to enumerate USB device on port 2."
[06:13] <der_kleene> good morning
[06:14] <cappicard> it does initially detect my xbox controller, but then i get port disabled (emi)
[06:15] <z8z> theadmin: what is that?
[06:15] <theadmin> z8z: A kind of animal :D
[06:15] <z8z> theadmin: lol :D
[06:16] <z8z> theadmin: thanks for the tip :D
[06:17] <qin> hapster is closest to perpetum mobile we could get.
[06:17] <goddard> ok i have a trash folder on my mounted drive and i ran nautilus as root so of course i can't restore the trash items
[06:17] <goddard> how can i restore the trash items?
[06:18] <z8z> goddard: no way.... better to reinstall os
[06:19] <goddard> z8z: ? my os is fine
[06:19] <z8z> goddard: lol just kidding :D
[06:19] <z8z> goddard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28639/how-do-i-restore-the-trash-icon-on-the-desktop
[06:20] <goddard> i dont want to restore the trash icon
[06:20] <z8z> goddard: oh sorry read just now what you exactly asked
[06:20] <goddard> i deleted files in "sudo nautilus" now I have a trash folder that has root permissions and I can't restore the files on my mounted drive that is not my main drive.
[06:21] <danny4way> how to update all apps on ubuntu?
[06:21] <goddard> danny4way: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:21] <danny4way> I don't think there is an option for updating on Software Manager
[06:21] <z8z> danny4way: sudo apt-get update -V
[06:21] <danny4way> Oh okay. Thanks guy
[06:21] <z8z> danny4way: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V
[06:21] <danny4way> Because I am trying to update PlayonLinux
[06:21] <vnc786> hello all !!! for last couple of months my dhcp service use to get start after boot (12.04 64bit) but last 2 days suddenly its is not getting up at boot however right now i have managed to start at boot by putting in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[06:21] <z8z> danny4way: run both
[06:21] <vnc786> but was curious how it happened suddenly i have not update anything nor i have made any changes
[06:22] <danny4way> But by running those commands, will it show what apps are updated?
[06:22] <z8z> of course
[06:22] <danny4way> Oh oKay. Thanks z8z
[06:22] <z8z> danny4way: -V option stays for verbose
[06:23] <danny4way> I just did it but it doesn't require reboot. Does it?
[06:23] <z8z> danny4way: only if it updated system packages
[06:23] <z8z> danny4way: if in doubt just reboot
[06:23] <danny4way> no. Unfortunately, It doesn't work
[06:23] <sgo11> hi, I have given Socks Host in Network Proxy under "System Settings". and in terminal, set | grep -i proxy shows proxy variables are defined. but it doesn't work at all. all the connections I made do not go through the socks proxy. why? thanks.
[06:24] <danny4way> I just run sudo apt-get update.
[06:24] <danny4way> It doens'nt work
[06:24] <danny4way> But I will try your command.
[06:24] <danny4way> Hold on.
[06:24] <z8z> danny4way: what it says?
[06:24] <danny4way> I am not sure. I closed it.
[06:24] <z8z> goddard: why you would ever need to get something you putted in the trash?
[06:25] <danny4way> Because they have all those results about all links and stuff.
[06:25] <danny4way> So I got confused.
[06:25] <z8z> start->system->update manager
[06:25] <gordonjcp> goddard: first thing, don't do "sudo nautilus"
[06:26] <gordonjcp> goddard: where is this Trash directory you can't get rid of?
[06:26] <danny4way> And ?
[06:26] <danny4way> z8z
[06:26] <danny4way> I tried that before already. It just actually update ubuntu and other built in apps
[06:26] <danny4way> But I can't update apps like PlayonLinux or something like wine
[06:29] <danny4way> BTW, apt-get upgrade doesn't work
[06:29] <danny4way> It says E: Could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[06:29] <babinlonston> Give me a iptables rules to open the port number 2812 both incoming and out going
[06:30] <danny4way> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:30] <danny4way> What to do?
[06:30] <danny4way> Anyone?
[06:30] <danny4way> I seriously need to update my app (PlayonLinux) to install windows app that I want.
[06:30] <gordonjcp> danny4way: what does the error message say?
[06:30] <danny4way> E: Could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[06:31] <danny4way> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:31] <gordonjcp> okay
[06:31] <gordonjcp> break it down
[06:31] <peterrooney> danny4way: re-read the whole error message.
[06:31] <Myrtti> danny4way: sudo apt-get
[06:31] <danny4way> Oh. My bad
[06:31] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: if you just give people the answer they don't learn ;-)
[06:31] <danny4way> I didn't put sudo
[06:31] <gordonjcp> danny4way: the clue is the "are you root?"
[06:32] <danny4way> But still. Results come out with 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[06:32] <danny4way> What does that suppose to mean?  Doesn't that sudo apt-get upgrade command suppose to update my apps?
[06:32] <gordonjcp> danny4way: right, but only stuff that is packaged
[06:32] <danny4way> But still my "PlayonLinux" is still in same version.
[06:33] <gordonjcp> danny4way: where did you install this PlayonLinux from?
[06:33] <babinlonston> any one there
[06:33] <danny4way> I am not sure but it's either  by commands from terminal or software center
[06:34] <sgo11> anyone ever successfully configured system wide socks proxy? google search tells me no one is successful on this.
[06:34] <gordonjcp> danny4way: if there's an updated package available from whoever provides that, you could try installing that
[06:34] <gordonjcp> danny4way: if you install over the top of an older version, it will use the newer version
[06:34] <danny4way> Oh really?
[06:35] <danny4way> So if i do sudo apt-get install playonlinux again it will install newer version?
[06:35] <danny4way> Is that what you are saying?
[06:35] <gordonjcp> danny4way: if there's a newer version packaged for the distro you're using
[06:36] <danny4way> OH okay.
[06:36] <gordonjcp> ik.;/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm##############################{}@~#####y6t
[06:36] <danny4way> I will do it again.
[06:36] <danny4way> Thank you. I will try it.
[06:36] <gordonjcp> ^^^ Suzie cat says hi
[06:36] <goddard> gordonjcp: its on my mounted drive
[06:36] <goddard> i dont want to get rid of it
[06:36] <gordonjcp> goddard: what are you trying to do with it?
[06:36] <gordonjcp> danny4way: what version do you have at the moment?
[06:37] <danny4way> 4.1.1
[06:37] <danny4way> But in order to install the program that I want, It has to be  4.2.1
[06:39] <gordonjcp> danny4way: well the one packaged is 4.0.14
[06:40] <danny4way> Oh. I will just look through it.
[06:40] <gordonjcp> danny4way: if there's a newer one on the author's website, packaged as a .deb for Ubuntu, then you can download and install that
[06:40] <danny4way> RIght now one app that I need seems to work fine
[06:40] <danny4way> It installed fine. But i am actually gonna install the one that I actually need.
[06:40] <danny4way> OH yeah. It's upgraded now.
[06:41] <danny4way> I just need to give a command 'sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[06:42] <goddard> nvm
[06:43] <Increase> Hello
[06:43] <Increase> Anyone here?
[06:45] <anonee> hello ubuntu! I'm trying to make sure if this situation is supposed to work correctly: a daemon needs to access a partition mounted by "Storage Device Manager" before a user with a GUI logs in. the daemon has its own gid and uid?
[06:45] <voila> Can any one tell me what is the problem with this simple command for file in $(awk '{print $1}' k169bteq.txt) ; do cp /opt/datastage/uv/projects/scripts/TTU_Scripts/BTEQ/$file k169mock; done
[06:46] <StarOnD> Hello, I have ubuntu on one partition, I just installed ubuntu a slightly different verision on a 2nd partition from a live usb, but the 2nd ubuntu did not show up in the grub entry, what can i do ?
[06:48] <Cpt_Zyph> why dost ubuntu use SELinux?? is this a redhat only thing or ?? is it not needed in non fedora distros??
[06:49] <Increase> What do you do if the pcap library is not found?
[06:51] <ANub> hello!
[06:51] <vint59> hi
[06:52] <ANub> when i login to ubuntuforums.org.......my username as it appears has changed and "2" has been appended in the end. Furthermore all the activity / threads / posts by me are not visible in my profile....how can i fix it...?
[06:54] <sgo11> Hi, I only have socks proxy. but adt manager only supports https proxy for connections. what can I do? thanks.
[06:55] <sphero> welcome back
[06:57] <ANub> when i login to ubuntuforums.org.......my username as it appears has changed and "2" has been appended in the end. Furthermore all the activity / threads / posts by me are not visible in my profile....how can i fix it...?
[06:57] <sphero> i froze my ubuntu pc what do i do to fix
[06:57] <zipper>  /connect irc.spotchat.org
[06:58] <alfreddba> how to monit remote server from local browser
[06:58] <wilee-nilee> ANub, Closest channel to the forums is #ubuntuforums
[06:58] <alfreddba> am using monit
[06:58] <Increase> Anyone help with a make install?
[06:58] <Increase> I'm getting this problem http://pastebin.com/4xjqGaBm
[06:58] <sphero> ty for help
[06:59] <babinlonston> uff no one is helping.....
[06:59] <z8z> what do you need?
[06:59] <Myrtti> babinlonston: have you done any iptables rules on that machine earlier?
[06:59] <z8z> Increase: use admin privileges to install stuff
[07:00] <alfreddba> how to monit remote server from local browser..i installed monit in remote server and configured...how to monit remote server from local browser...pls help me...
[07:00] <babinlonston> Yes there some
[07:00] <z8z> Increase: put "sudo" in front of every command or "sudo su" and become permanent admin for that session
[07:01] <z8z> alfreddba: never used that
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> z8z, sudo su is a bad idea
[07:01] <z8z> alfreddba: but checking
[07:01] <z8z> wilee-nilee: just to do a make why not?
[07:01] <babinlonston> Myrtti: just i need to enable one port for incoming and outgoing for that port , and already there are some rules , then how can i add my new rules and get activated ..
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> z8z, sudo -i is used has to do with permissions, and if you advise that it should come with a warning. ;)
[07:03] <z8z> alfreddba: what happen when you try to connect from browser?
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> Increase, Whay are you not using the version in the repos?
[07:04] <Increase> What do you mean?
[07:04] <Myrtti> babinlonston: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/06/iptables-rules-examples/ seems to have some pointers
[07:04] <z8z> Increase: yeah still wondering why you don't use that from repos
[07:04] <babinlonston> k ill check
[07:04] <Increase> z8z, I don't know what that is
[07:04] <z8z> Increase: repos = repository = ubuntu software database
[07:05] <Increase> How do I use it?
[07:05] <Increase> First time ubuntu user
[07:05] <z8z> Increase: = software center
[07:05] <alfreddba> z8z:  unable to connect from 2812 port...
[07:05] <auronandace> !software | Increase
[07:05] <babinlonston> Myrtti: already i have the link and got no idea so what i came here
[07:05] <Increase> I search reaver in SC and I get nothing back
[07:05] <murli> Murli
[07:05] <Increase> !software
[07:06] <Myrtti> babinlonston: see example 5
[07:06] <auronandace> Increase: compiling is always a last resort (and anything you compile we can't really support you here with)
[07:06] <Myrtti> babinlonston: er, no, example 4
[07:06] <z8z> Increase: in the settings menu of software center go into repository area an check every repository is active
[07:07] <Increase> z8z, I don't see a settings button anywhere
[07:07] <z8z> Increase: like main universe restricted and multiverse
[07:07] <J-BBB> Hi, anyone know why me prerouting on ufw not work? -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931784/ I get always ERROR: problem running ufw-init and nothing rule work.
[07:07] <babinlonston> k
[07:07] <auronandace> !pm | Increase
[07:08] <z8z> alfreddba: are you trying to connect to your home host?
[07:08] <z8z> Increase: find something about repository i don't remember the name
[07:08] <Increase> Is there anyway to turn off the join/disconnect messages?
[07:08] <z8z> Increase: i usually do everything from terminal
[07:09] <Increase> This is my first time using ubuntu
[07:09] <Increase> I don't really know what a lot of this stuff you guys are talking about is
[07:09] <z8z> auronandace: cause you probably didn't open your router or firewall port
[07:10] <Myrtti> Increase: top left corner, settings, hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS
[07:10] <Myrtti> Increase: the little blue button
[07:10] <Increase> Myrtti thanks
[07:11] <Increase> Okay
[07:11] <Increase> Know that I can read finally
[07:11] <Increase> Now*
[07:11] <Increase> http://pastebin.com/4xjqGaBm
[07:11] <Increase> I got to make install and it gives me that
[07:12] <Myrtti> Increase: yeah, don't use make install
[07:12] <Myrtti> Increase: sudo apt-get install reaver
[07:13] <Myrtti> Increase: it will ask for a password, type your own. it will not show ** to obfuscate your password either, that's ok
[07:13] <Increase> Okay Myrtti, I did  that
[07:15] <Increase> But I don't have enough disk space
[07:15] <Increase> Yay!
[07:15] <root____3> hi
[07:16] <CiSeR> hi
[07:16] <J-BBB> hi
[07:16] <J-BBB> nobody know about prerouting and ufw?
[07:18] <Increase> So after something is installed, where do I go to run it?
[07:20] <alfreddba> z8z: connect from different host..
[07:20] <z8z> Increase: you should find in the start menu or type it from terminal
[07:20] <z8z> alfreddba: what do you mean? can you explain from where to where are you trying to connect?
[07:21] <Increase> z8z, I type reaver in terminal and it doesn't come up
[07:21] <Increase> Says it's installed when I run apt-get install reaver
[07:21] <weblife> I just finished a three part tutorial on how to get going with Node.js / MongoDB on Ubuntu and then deploy it to cloud services.  Could I get any interested parties to review it for fixes / ideas on how to improve it?  https://github.com/TheMindCompany/mongonode-app/blob/master/tutorial.pdf
[07:22] <z8z> type re and press tab
[07:22] <z8z> Increase: it will suggest all commands starting with those letters
[07:22] <sinkensabe> weblife: glorious
[07:22] <HypnotiX1> morning, is there any way to show the programs settings in the unity toolbar all the time, not just on hover
[07:23] <Increase> z8z it brings up the folder that was already on the desktop but not a program
[07:24] <weblife> @sinkensabe thank you
[07:24] <z8z> Increase: check if you can find into /usr/bin folder
[07:25] <alfreddba> z8z: my virtual server in tokyo..i installed monit in remote server and configured now am trying to connect that from localhost to port 2812 ..
[07:26] <z8z> alfreddba: is the service active?
[07:26] <z8z> alfreddba: you installed but maybe not started the service daemon
[07:26] <alfreddba> z8z: yes active...
[07:27] <z8z> alfreddba: did you check config file?
[07:27] <Myrtti> Increase: so did it install earlier when you did sudo apt-get install reaver? or were you out of disk space?
[07:27] <HypnotiX1> How can i show a programs settings all the time on the unity taskbar ?
[07:28] <Increase> Well, the first time I ran it, it said it would go over, but now when I run it, it says it's installed
[07:28] <Increase> Myrtti
[07:28] <alfreddba> z8z: ya its status fine in virtual server...but trying from local host its problem....
[07:29] <z8z> alfreddba: if doesn't work from local host is a problem
[07:29] <z8z> alfreddba: ah wait a minute
[07:29] <z8z> alfreddba: are you using virtual server not a cloud?
[07:29] <Increase> z8z Yes, it's in the usr/bin folder
[07:29] <alfreddba> z8z: with pleasure?
[07:30] <z8z> alfreddba: it can have some kernel issue about pcap package
[07:30] <z8z> alfreddba: need some extra parameter of configuration stuff to have it to work
[07:31] <z8z> alfreddba: virtual server are not pure emulated standalone machines
[07:31] <alfreddba> z8z: pls guide me...
[07:31] <z8z> alfreddba: dunno any extra details on that... maybe someon else knows how to fix
[07:32] <z8z> alfreddba: are you sure they don't have any other monitoring system preinstalled?
[07:33] <z8z> alfreddba: they usually put preinstalled and configured
[07:33] <z8z> Increase: so means you can just type front terminal and it runs
[07:33] <alfreddba> z8z:   no
[07:33] <alfreddba> z8z:   set httpd port 2812 and
[07:33] <alfreddba>    #use address localhost  # only accept connection from localhost
[07:33] <alfreddba>    #allow localhost        # allow localhost to connect to the server and
[07:33] <alfreddba>    allow admin:monit0123123 # require user 'admin' with password 'monit'
[07:33] <alfreddba>     allow @admin  # allow users of group 'monit' to connect (rw)
[07:33] <alfreddba>     allow @users readonly  # allow users of group 'users' to connect readonly
[07:33] <FloodBot1> alfreddba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <Increase> z8z what do I type into terminal?
[07:34] <alfreddba> z8z: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931852/
[07:34] <z8z> the name of the executable file you saw inside /usr/bin folder
[07:35] <Increase> z8z it just says reaver
[07:35] <Increase> z8z How do I run it? Start reaver?
[07:35] <Increase> Or cd into it?
[07:36] <z8z> alfreddba: check if service port is open from remote using nmap
[07:37] <z8z> Increase: type "reaver" from terminal
[07:37] <alfreddba> z8z: ya checked 0nly 22 and 80 open how to open port 2812...pls guide me....
[07:38] <z8z> alfreddba: very strange that installation process didn't open it
[07:38] <z8z> alfreddba: usually it does
[07:38] <Increase> z8z Okay, thanks it worked! =D
[07:38] <z8z> Increase: good to know :)
[07:38] <z8z> alfreddba: first of all try if it's just about the firewall
[07:39] <z8z> alfreddba: just temporary disable it "sudo ufw disable"
[07:39] <Increase> z8z Do you sit in IRC a lot? I could see helping noobs out to get repitive. Lol
[07:40] <z8z> Increase: no just sometimes when i'm in very positive mood :D
[07:40] <alfreddba> z8z: actually iptable enabled..service i have checked ufw not working....only iptable installed...so how to enable the port 2812 in iptable...
[07:42] <z8z> alfreddba: -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 2812 -j ACCEPT
[07:43] <z8z> alfreddba: add this to iptables config file if you are not using ufw
[07:43] <z8z> alfreddba: anyway before i would make sure is about FW
[07:44] <z8z> alfreddba: just disabling it.... trying to connect and then open the port
[07:44] <babinlonston> Myrtti: Please Confirm Will this Work for me to Open the Specific ports what i have  mentioned here
[07:44] <babinlonston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931872/
[07:46] <z8z> babinlonston: that only accept packets when connection have already been established but doesn't open initial stage
[07:46] <babinlonston> oh
[07:47] <z8z> babinlonston: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport HEREYOUPUTPORTNUMBER -j ACCEPT
[07:47] <z8z> babinlonston: this goes after those lines and not before
[07:48] <babinlonston> oh for after i need to use -i ?
[07:48] <babinlonston> sorry -I ?
[07:48] <babinlonston> okok
[07:49] <babinlonston> got it
[07:49] <Increase> z8z how long have you been on ubuntu?
[07:49] <Increase> You seem to know your shit
[07:50] <FroMaster> What's it called when you login to the shell and your put into a menu/cli script?
[07:50] <z8z> Increase: just 4 years
[07:50] <z8z> Increase: i'm really not a pro
[07:51] <z8z> Increase: I'm a pro developer
[07:51] <z8z> Increase: not system admin
[07:51] <alfreddba> z8z: i will try with iptable and come back...
[07:52] <z8z> alfreddba: are you living in Japan?
[07:52] <Increase> z8z What does a developer do? Did you go to school? I'm thinking about getting into the sys admin field
[07:52] <Myrtti> !offtopic | friendly reminder
[07:54] <z8z> Increase: there are many type of sysadmin but usually they are just pro on setting up systems and knows how to configure everything... also a good security knowledge and networking skills are required
[07:55] <Increase> Right on, well thanks for the help man. Really saved me from the retardation I was getting. Lol
[07:55] <z8z> Increase: devs just write code  and algorithms
[07:55] <z8z> Increase: np :)
[07:58] <Lope> I added this line to my fstab yesterday to auto mount my NTFS partition, then tested it with sudo mount -a, and it mounted perfectly. today after booting up, the dir where its supposed to be mounted is empty, and if I run sudo mount -a I get no errors, and the mount dir is still empty. UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:00] <llutz> Lope: "mount | grep stuff"  does it show it as mounted?
[08:01] <Lope> it does show up... /dev/sda4 on /home/bob/stuff type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[08:01] <llutz> Lope: so it is mounted
[08:01] <Lope> well, the folder is empty?
[08:02] <Lope> and theres loads of stuff on that partition
[08:02] <Lope> ls -lxua just gives me . and ..
[08:02] <llutz> Lope: ls -ld /home/bob/stuff
[08:02] <DJones> Lope: Have you obscured the UUID in the line you pasted above, the "AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF" Looks rather odd for the UUID
[08:03] <Lope> yes :)
[08:03] <llutz> Lope: df -h /home/bob/stuff
[08:03] <DJones> Lope: ok, thought it was just worth asking the question
[08:03] <Lope> drwxr-xr-x 2 bob bob 4096 Jul 30 12:29 /home/bob/stuff
[08:04] <raft> I can't type the characters "f" or "b" in my shell. I can type them in programs run from the shell and all other programs, but in the shell nothing happens when I enter them. What could possibly be causing this?
[08:04] <Lope> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on | /dev/sda4        30G   12G   17G  42% /home/bob/stuff
[08:04] <Lope> hmmm those numbers are wrong
[08:04] <al_nz1> Evening peoples
[08:04] <Lope> the that partition is supposed to be like 500GB or more
[08:05] <llutz> Lope: check it, "sudo parted -l", check UUID "sudo blkid"
[08:06] <al_nz1> how do I check the types of partitions on a non mounted disk? (so I can issue the correct mount command)
[08:07] <llutz> al_nz1: sudo parted -l
[08:07] <Lope> llutz: the UUID is correct (comparing sudo blkid and cat /etc/fstab )
[08:08] <al_nz1> thanks
[08:08] <llutz> Lope: but "df" shows wrong size? what does parted tell you as size for /dev/sda4?
[08:08] <Lope> I noticed the format of the first few UUIDs in my fstab file are different to the one I added.
[08:08] <Lope> the one I added has no punctuation, its all uppercase hexadecimal.
[08:09] <llutz> Lope: use UUIDs given by blkid to be sure
[08:09] <Lope> the ones that were generated by my install are lowercase, longer and have a few hyphens in them
[08:09] <Lope> llutz: yes using the one exactly given by blkid
[08:09] <Lope> do I not need quotes around it? (i have no quotes)
[08:09] <llutz> Lope: no
[08:10] <Lope> its just UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:10] <llutz> Lope: looks fine (just umask=003 is odd, but...)
[08:10] <Lope> parted -l says its 654GB
[08:11] <Lope> whats umask? I copied it off an ubuntu answers webpage.
[08:11] <Lope> I just changed the uid and gid to equal the values given by the 'id
[08:11] <Lope> ' command
[08:11] <Lope> and of course the UUID and mount dir
[08:11] <llutz> Lope: your fstab-line contains "umask=003", that will cause the mount to be rwxrwxr-- (missing x for "o"), that's a bit... unusual
[08:11] <al_nz1> and, please, whats the best way to cp a bunch of data from one nix system to another? sftp or something?
[08:12] <Lope> llutz: is it possible that ubuntu is auto mounting my hard drive at bootup and there is a conflict?
[08:12] <al_nz1> I really want to copy the /mnt/disk/Baker to new folder
[08:12] <Lope> whats o?
[08:13] <llutz> Lope: "others"
[08:13] <Lope> what umask do you recommend?
[08:13] <llutz> Lope: "0002", depends on the usage (more users than just you? etc.pp)
[08:14] <Lope> just me. I want to be able to execute shell scripts etc on the partition?
[08:14] <llutz> Lope: if it is an internal drive, it shouldn't be mounted by the system. or is that a wubi-installation? there it might be different, i don't know
[08:14] <babinlonston> Will This allow the incoming and out coming for Specified Ports and how can i block all other requests in Single line http://paste.ubuntu.com/5931943/
[08:14] <Lope> its a huge data partition. I'm moving over from windows.
[08:15] <Lope> Well, what happens is when I boot up its not automatically mounted. but its shown in the file manager. if I click on the drive label, then it mounts.
[08:15] <Lope> the reason I added it to my fstab is I want it to auto-mount
[08:16] <Lope> without me having to go into the file manager to open it and make it mount that way.
[08:16] <Lope> it is an internal drive.
[08:17] <Supaplex> if a download url (2.2gb) has no torrent, can I create a torrent using a webseed, while not yet having the file locally? This wireless isp is the suck, but I have as many PCs for no extra cost. 1 download = 0.7mbit, but if I can bootstrap that, then I can fetch it with aria2c and local peer discovery just fine (it's worked for linux DVD torrents before etc).
[08:17] <llutz> Lope: well, it is mounted, as "mount" stated. but the difference in sizes is odd... you'd perform a fs-check in windows, then try again
[08:17] <Lope> hmm
[08:18] <Lope> can I unmount, then re-mount?
[08:18] <Lope> what is the command for that?
[08:18] <llutz> sudo umount /home/bob/stuff
[08:18] <llutz> sudo mount /home/bob/stuff
[08:18] <Supaplex> Lope: llutz assumes it's in your fstab (with all the right paramaters)
[08:19] <llutz> Supaplex: which he has, thats part of the problem
[08:19] <Supaplex> k. tiny screen here :) (scrollback's a pain)
[08:20] <Supaplex> Lope: sounds like noauto is in the fstab. remove it to mount at boot time.
[08:21] <llutz>  UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs
[08:21] <llutz>                rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:21] <llutz> Supaplex: ^^ that#s his fstab entry
[08:22] <Lope> Supaplex: it does have the flag auto. it does not have noauto
[08:23] <llutz> "auto" is default, you don't really need it. just make sure not to have "noauto" :) Lope
[08:23] <Lope> its just (UUID obfuscated, gid and uid are the same as what 'id' reports)   UUID=AAABBBCCCDDDEEEFFF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:23] <Lope> how can I unmount it and then re-mount it?
[08:23] <llutz> sudo umount /home/bob/stuff Lope
[08:23] <llutz> sudo mount /home/bob/stuff Lope
[08:23] <Supaplex> I see that. I'd have to unravel the init.d scripts - maybe he needs a variant of ntfs, but if ntfs alone works (or something from /proc/filesystems is missing a kernel module), or it's really fuse related. Dunno.
[08:24] <Lope> you see, yesterday I added that line to my fstab, then ran sudo mount -a. and it mounted perfectly. today I booted up, and it says its mounted, but reported size is wrong, and the mount dir is empty.
[08:26] <Lope> weird ok so I tried sudo umount /home/bob/stuff and it said its not mounted
[08:26] <Supaplex> Lope: anything relevant in dmesg or /var/log/* ?  Was the filesystem cleanly unmounted? (may need either fsck, or real windows chkdsk) - throw anything interesting from dmesg/logs in a pastebin
[08:26] <Bisu[Shield]> damn, how drunk am I? jpg images animate? https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg
[08:26] <Lope> so I ran sudo mount -a AGAIN. and it didn't give errors (it never has) now its mounted perfectly. really weird
[08:26] <Lope> Should I reboot and see what happens again?
[08:27] <Myrtti> Bisu[Shield]: myrtti@kengu:~$ file Downloads/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg
[08:27] <Myrtti> Downloads/480465_494004533947293_1746947633_n.jpg: GIF image data, version 89a, 247 x 254
[08:27] <Bisu[Shield]> oh so I am not drunk...
[08:28] <alfreddba> z8z: i modified iptable...still unable to connect...from local browser...
[08:28] <Bisu[Shield]> Myrtti you saved my life
[08:28] <Supaplex> Bisu[Shield]: there is an unoffical jpeg animation spec - but mjpeg is generally the lazy route.
[08:28] <Bisu[Shield]> aaaaahh
[08:29] <Lope> Supaplex: the only interesting thing in /var/log/dmesg is: [    x.xxxxxxx]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 < sda4 >
[08:29] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys i have tried it via virtual machine but that is not a strong test.. im wonder if the new search features on the uniity tray are really nice.. i have had some thoughts of switching from F19 over .. but dont known anyone that uses Ubuntu much at all
[08:29] <Lope> dunno why it has lt and gt around it.
[08:30] <Lope> okay I'll reboot and see what happens.
[08:33] <Linux_noob> okay, I've rebooted and I have the same situation as before. the mount dir is emtpy.
[08:33] <Linux_noob> okay, I ran sudo mount -a (no errors) but its not mounted.
[08:35] <Linux_noob> hmmm
[08:35] <Linux_noob> how do I figure out whats wrong :/
[08:36] <Lope> hehe, me again.
[08:38] <llutz> Lope: what kind of partition is /dev/sda4, is it a normal primary or an extended? (sudo parted -l    should tell you)
[08:38] <Lope> sudo mount -l shows /dev/sda5 on /home/bob/stuff type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) [Stuff]
[08:39] <Lope> erm, i meant sda4
[08:39] <Lope> whats up with default_permissions ?
[08:40] <Lope> okay, well... its actually sda5 haha. i was obfuscating it. (since I'm a linux noob I dunno how much info is too much to share :) )
[08:40] <Lope> its in some kind of extended partition
[08:40] <Lope> I'll show a printout
[08:41] <llutz> Lope: stop obfuscating stuff, it makes helping harder
[08:41] <ballock> I need to trick apt/dpkg into thinking that already-installed package X provides package Y (for testing), so I modified /var/lib/dpkg/status, but it seems apt-get is still trying to install package Y. Is there another cache I need to update for apt?
[08:41] <Lope> Sorry
[08:42] <Lope> my partition listing http://pastebin.com/3MtCG9Lj
[08:43] <Lope> its the sda5 I want to mount.
[08:44] <llutz> Lope: "sudo blkid /dev/sda5"    is that the UUID your /etc/fstab entry contains?
[08:44] <Lope> yes 100% exactly
[08:44] <ikonia> ballock: you can't do that
[08:44] <ikonia> ballock: nor should you do that
[08:45] <ikonia> ballock: you should match dependencies correctly
[08:45] <ballock> I know I should not do that
[08:45] <TC|Laptop> Heh, not a common IRCer, but thought this might be the best place to ask: has anyone noticed this? http://www.instantasp.co.uk/Products/Influx/
[08:45] <ballock> but I don't want to rebuild the package with correct dependencies to verify this on my system
[08:45] <TC|Laptop> That logo looks *awfully* familiar...
[08:46] <Lope> perhaps I should use options different to my current options? UUID=ABCDEF /home/bob/stuff ntfs rw,auto,users,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=1000,uid=1000    0   0
[08:46] <ballock> ikonia: is there another database that gets considered for dpkg status by apt?
[08:46] <llutz> !ntfs | Lope
[08:46] <TC|Laptop> Does anyone here know who I should flick this off to? It looks mighty suspicously like trademark infringement (assuming the Ubuntu logo is in fact trademarked)
[08:47] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | Lope    these links should give you the options you need
[08:47] <ikonia> ballock: the internal binary one
[08:47] <ikonia> TC|Laptop: no-one, don't worry about it
[08:47] <ballock> I thought so, but I couldn't find it in /var/lib/apt
[08:47] <ballock> Is there a way to regenerate it?
[08:47] <ikonia> ballock: only with "factual" data
[08:48] <ballock> where is it?
[08:48] <TC|Laptop> *nodnod* All good, if it's not an issue then there's no worries, thought I should check anyway. Thanks for the heads up :)
[08:48] <ikonia> ballock: it's /var/lib/dpkg - somewhere like that, I don't remember off the top of my head
[08:49] <ballock> ikonia: can't find it there, there's just the list of available packages
[08:49] <ballock> no binary files, either
[08:50] <ikonia> ballock: it is around
[08:50] <ikonia> but you can't modify it
[08:50] <Supaplex> Lope: that's a good sign. sda ... is partition detection.
[08:51] <ballock> Tell me a reason I should not claim oracle-java7-jre provides sun-java6-jre in my current system.
[08:51] <ikonia> because it doesn't
[08:52] <Lope> i see ntfs-3g mentioned a lot, as being a requirement for RW. I've just got ntfs in my fstab. should I change it to ntfs-3g?
[08:52] <ballock> Ok, tell me a reason I should modify the jxplorer package to claim it also works with oracle-java7 without knowing it works there?
[08:52] <Lope> I'll try this example given in the ubuntu help page 'MountingWindowsPartitions': UUID=519CB82E5888AD0F  /media/Data  ntfs-3g  defaults,windows_names,locale=en_US.utf8  0 0
[08:52] <ikonia> ballock: it's up to you, do what you want
[08:53] <ballock> of course, I just wanted to know if it's my bad or if there is a binary db created of the status file, as I couldn't find it.
[08:53] <thunder1212> hi
[08:53] <ballock> thanks for that, though
[08:53] <ikonia> ballock: there is a binary file / db
[08:53] <ballock> I'll try strace on apt-get to find it
[08:54] <Lope> I see the ubuntu help page doesn't specify a uid or gid. does that mean it will be systemwide
[08:54] <thunder1212> holstein: there is a libpeerconnection.log file automatically created in my home directory why?
[08:56] <jony_easyrider> which is faster on an old PC: Ubuntu 10.04 or Lubuntu 12.04?
[08:56] <thunder1212> libpeerconnection.log
[08:56] <thunder1212> jony_easyrider: lubuntu12.04
[08:57] <Lope> sudo mount -l is showing that its mounted. but the folder is empty. maybe the NTFS partition is damaged.
[08:57] <Lope> is the linux NTFS driver a bit dodgy? is it recommended to write to a NTFS partition?
[08:57] <ikonia> Lope: hang on
[08:57] <ikonia> Lope: can you pastebin the output of the command "mount" please into a pastebin
[08:58] <Noskcaj> jony_easyrider, Lubuntu 13.04 is my recommendation
[08:58] <Lope> recently I used a VM from linux that was stored in a NTFS. the NTFS partition developed errors. next time I booted windows it found problems and deleted some of the VM files, moving them into a folder called found.000
[08:58] <thunder1212> libpeerconnection.log created in home why?
[08:58] <Lope> sure
[08:59] <Noskcaj> 10.04 isn't supported and it's very old, lubuntu didn't make an LTS in 12.04
[08:59] <llutz> thunder1212: chrome/chromium
[08:59] <thunder1212> llutz: ok thnx :)
[08:59] <ikonia> 10.04 still has server support
[09:00] <Lope> mount: http://pastebin.com/taRszb9i parted: http://pastebin.com/3MtCG9Lj
[09:01] <thunder1212> llutz: i am using ubuntu 12.04 and i have disabled all updates but if i want to update firefox then what to do?
[09:01] <Lope> thunder1212: sudo apt-get update
[09:02] <llutz> thunder1212: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:02] <Lope> then you need to upgrade, specifically the firefox package, somehow
[09:02] <ikonia> Lope: ok, so that ntfs partition is mounted using "fuser" which is the "ntfs-3g" component you whre talking about
[09:02] <thunder1212> Lope: but i do not want to update my whole system
[09:02] <thunder1212> llutz: ok got it
[09:02] <ikonia> Lope: so if you go into /home/bob/stuff is that directory empty ?
[09:02] <llutz> thunder1212: that will update the database and update firefox if there is an update
[09:03] <Lope> thunder1212: update doesn't update any programs, just your apt-database of what is available.
[09:03] <thunder1212> Lope: ok thnx:)
[09:03] <Lope> sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade all your programs :)
[09:03] <Lope> yes its empty
[09:04] <Lope> (ikonia)
[09:04] <ikonia> Lope: ok, so that's as "honest" as it gets
[09:05] <Lope> but whats weird is yesterday it mounted fine, and earlier in this channel today after mounting and dismounting (with varied commands) it eventually mounted perfectly.
[09:05] <ikonia> Lope: it's mounted fine now
[09:05] <Lope> whats that command where you can see how much free space on your mounts?
[09:05] <Lope> then fine ain't good enough :p
[09:06] <Lope> cos I can't see the hundreds of GB of dirs and files :)
[09:06] <Lope> perhaps I need to boot windows again for a NTFS scan.
[09:06] <Lope> going forward am I going to have endless hassles using a NTFS partition for storing the bulk of my data?
[09:06] <ikonia> Lope: you should verify the partition within windows if possible.
[09:07] <Lope> should I just copy the data off and format that partition as EXTx?
[09:07] <Lope> I've pretty much had enough of windows.
[09:07] <ikonia> Lope: the ntfs kernel module is "usable" and quite mature, now so you should not have problems
[09:07] <shuxiong> Hi, is there any way to get debian package source in Ubuntu?
[09:07] <Lope> but I've not been able to completely get my dev environment sorted on linux yet. so I've not been able to work for the last 2 days.
[09:07] <llutz> Lope: less hassle, if you don't want to access the data from anythin != linux
[09:08] <shuxiong> I've added debian source repository in /etc/apt/source.list.
[09:08] <Lope> okay I'll reboot into windows and see what windows says.
[09:08] <shuxiong> and using apt-get source packageName -t unstable, but
[09:08] <shuxiong> The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[09:09] <Lope> I don't think using NTFS partition is very error free so far. within a handfull of mounts I've had at least 1 case of NTFS corruption.
[09:09] <HypnotiX1> anyone using sublime text here and can help me out for a second please?
[09:09] <Lope> okay. bbiaw. thank you for your help awesome people!
[09:09] <Lope> haha, pity I can't connect that partition to a windows VM and scan it that way :)
[09:09] <Lope> if it was USB I could.
[09:10]  * Lope puts on a rubber suit to go into windows
[09:10] <superjoe> hello. I played a game on wine and now I can no longer hear audio on my system
[09:10] <superjoe> how can I troubleshoot?
[09:13] <kimir> I am trying to send a patch using git imap-send on ubuntu 13.04 and I get error "SSL requested but SSL support not compiled in". Is there a git package WITH ssl?
[09:16] <ballock> ikonia: FYI the binary DB is in /var/cache/apt, but it's not considered authoritative, it's regenerated on each apt-get run (or so it seems); in my case it was not enough to change Provides: in /var/lib/dpkg/status, I needed to change the package version there, too. For some reason apt-get treats available packages more authoritatively than the status file.
[09:17] <ikonia> ballock: that seems very odd, but worth knowing, thank you
[09:17] <PeterGriffin> Postfix is sending to some misstyped version of my mail address, probably from a past failed configuration, even if I don't type a recipient address. When it happens it I get error report from the mail server thet the recipient does not exist.
[09:17] <ballock> ikonia: and jxplorer seems to work with Oracle's Java7, so perhaps we should update jxplorer package with that data
[09:18] <ikonia> ballock: you can request a change to the package via launchpad.net
[09:18] <ikonia> PeterGriffin: postfix doesn't send mail addresses, the mail client does
[09:19] <PeterGriffin> ikonia: Do you mean I have to check the config of mutt?
[09:19] <ikonia> PeterGriffin: if that's what's sending the mail, yes
[09:19] <ballock> ikonia: can do, though the package is in universe, so I guess I should head to Debian guys?
[09:20] <ikonia> ballock: depends if it's just a clean port from debian to ubuntu or if ubuntu guys rebuild it
[09:20] <ikonia> ballock: maybe worth to do it via launchpad and feed back to ubuntu->debian in the correct order
[09:20] <ikonia> rather than jumping straight to upstream
[09:23] <Tee_Pee> hello
[09:23] <Tee_Pee> quick question - I am having issues with the ssh agent. ssh-add -l gives me "the agent has no identities"
[09:24] <Tee_Pee> How can I find / load the ssh keys into it?
[09:24] <Tee_Pee> fresh install of ubuntu 13.04
[09:25] <nantou> i extracted video files from an iso copy. I can access the files and play em ,but they all have a lock on them. what does that mean?
[09:28] <elvis_> hi
[09:28] <krz> hi
[09:28] <elvis_> i need  a help
[09:29] <krz> is it normal that postgres doesnt start automatically when i boot my machine?
[09:29] <elvis_> i have just installed wicd
[09:29] <krz> everytime i boot i need to do sudo service postgres restart, just to get it up and running
[09:29] <elvis_> and when i start wicd
[09:29] <mudkip908> nantou: It means they're readonly.
[09:30] <elvis_> i must write a password
[09:30] <nantou> mudkip908, so I cant copy em? mux em?
[09:30] <elvis_> what password i'll write
[09:30] <jony_easyrider> Noskcaj, lubuntu 13.04 is at the final state or only the 12.04 is?
[09:30] <mudkip908> nantou: You can copy them, but you cant edit them.
[09:30] <rhythmx> http://codepad.org/wOxywDD3 -- having trouble linking this in ubuntu, undefined reference to SHA512_Init
[09:30] <mudkip908> nantou: right click on one of the files and go to Properties, then Permissions.
[09:30] <rhythmx> readelf -s clearly shows that the symbol is in libcrypto
[09:31] <elvis_> does anyone help me
[09:31] <rhythmx> links in centos and arch, can't figure out why not in ubuntu
[09:31] <Noskcaj> jony_easyrider, Both are released, but only part of 12.04 is supported, and it's older
[09:31] <krz> anyone?
[09:31] <jony_easyrider> Noskcaj, so the 13.04 is fully functional and not is a beta?
[09:32] <mudkip908> rhythmx: Are you passing "-llibcrypto" to gcc?
[09:32] <rhythmx> mudkip908: -lcrypto, yeah
[09:32] <elvis_>  i have a problem with wicd
[09:32] <Noskcaj> jony_easyrider, It's fully funtional. 13.04 means it was released in april
[09:33] <jony_easyrider> where can I find the transmission's executable to show it to the browser to "open with"?
[09:33] <mudkip908> rhythmx:  "openssl/sha.h: No such file or directory" Maybe you're missing a package?
[09:33] <rhythmx> thats in libssl-dev
[09:33] <nantou> ow ow, woww mudkip908 thanks!
[09:34] <rhythmx> it compiles fine, just errors on linking
[09:34] <rhythmx> it finds libcrypto.so just fine, and I can see that the SHA512 symbols are in that library via readelf
[09:34] <rhythmx> but something about the environment is different
[09:34] <hulu> pvl1: helo
[09:34] <jony_easyrider> Noskcaj, I asking this 'cause I used ubuntu 13.04, but it had some bugs and that was not an LTS and I gone back to 12.04
[09:35] <mudkip908> rhythmx: locate libcrypto.so and paste the output
[09:36] <hulu> pvl1: the libgconf-2-4 gconf_client_commit_change_set return 0 means what
[09:37] <dhaval2712> Hey can anybody help me install Barry, the Blackberry manager?
[09:37] <ZIPY> is it possible to open a luksencrypted partition in windows if its ntfs?
[09:37] <rhythmx> mudkip908: http://codepad.org/Wrqfrm8f
[09:37] <rhythmx> mudkip908: locate command is in the middle there
[09:39] <mudkip908> rhythmx: I have no idea why it doesn't link. Maybe try linking libcrypto.so to libcrypto.so.1.0.0 as a last resort
[09:39] <magdur> guys i have a problem can anyone help me ?
[09:40] <mudkip908> (i mea symlink)
[09:40] <rhythmx> mudkip908: yeah I tried that too :/ thanks for looking into it though
[09:41] <Noskcaj> !ask | magdur
[09:42] <magdur> my computer warm too much
[09:42] <nantou> can I change the permission settings for several files at the same time?
[09:42] <mudkip908> nantou: yes
[09:43] <nekdo> hello! how to i have to change system domain name on server, because i have some troubles with "recieved" in sendmail?
[09:43] <nantou> mudkip908, must it be terminal or is it enough with selecting the files in the GUI and right clicking em?
[09:43] <mudkip908> nantou: GUI works
[09:43] <nantou> ok
[09:43] <aneks> hey guys, does anyone know why vsftpd would give me this error message when I try to start it? http://pastebin.com/1Hp3N6ip
[09:44] <flipper88_fl> Nice to see ubuntu forums up again!
[09:44] <dhaval2712> What happened anyway?
[09:45] <Pricey> aneks: use sudo
[09:46] <magdur> my computer warm too much, what can i do
[09:46] <aneks> such an idiot :) thanks Pricey
[09:46] <Pricey> aneks: We all do it!
[09:47] <nekdo> how do i have to change system domain name (i have bought domain, but what to do now) on server?
[09:50] <skjoedt> Hi, I installed emesene last night as well as made an account for google talk in empathy. Then I uninstalled emesene but now I am getting gnome keyring prompts on system startup. There is nothing of such in my startup application preferences. How do I undo it?
[09:51] <skjoedt> When I search google people are often referring to seahorse, but I can't find a way to disable it there.
[09:51] <sharpshooter> nekdo:  check this http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_domainname.htm
[09:52] <somsip> magdur: did you try lm-sensors as was suggested some hours ago?
[09:52] <xeonix> Any forum admin here?
[09:52] <rhythmx> mudkip908: fwiw, i just had to put -lcrypto after the .c file that needed it. never knew the option order mattered
[09:52] <somsip> xeonix: there will be, but #ubuntu-ops might be somewhere to ask depending on your query
[09:52] <mudkip908> rhythmx: wat
[09:52] <SuperLag> rhythmx: I think you might have better luck in #ubuntu-forums (I think that's the name of the channel)
[09:52] <mudkip908> rhythmx: Why would that make a difference?
[09:53] <SuperLag> rhythmx: sorry, that was meant for xeonix
[09:53] <rhythmx> SuperLag: problem solved, just thought i'd update
[09:54] <nekdo> sharpshooter i thought hostname... when i send mail with sendmail, I always get hostname on Recieved (when looking to email source) which I would like to change to something other, because it's annoying to send folks server info.
[09:55] <rhythmx> mudkip908: no idea why, never seen that before
[09:56] <hulu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5932225/
[09:56] <hulu> who can help me
[09:57] <hulu> The gnome-terminal perference dialog is gray
[09:57] <hulu> I'm using 13.04
[09:57] <magdur> somsip: actuaaly i try it but i take an error
[09:57] <somsip> magdur: and what is the error?
[09:59] <magdur> lm-sensors
[09:59] <magdur> Processing triggers for ureadahead ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Setting up lm-sensors (1:3.3.1-2ubuntu2) ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension N: Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[10:01] <somsip> magdur: what version of ubuntu?
[10:02] <magdur> @somsip 12.10
[10:04] <krz> hi
[10:04] <krz> where do i find the logs for postgres? i need to know what is causing pgsql not to start when my OS boots
[10:04] <somsip> magdur: well, that's justa warning and there are workarounds that can be found by searching (http://is.gd/o7y30z). So did lm-sensors install in the end?
[10:04] <somsip> krz: Try /var/log/postgres/ (guess)
[10:06] <magdur> somsip yes it was and
[10:08] <BrixSat> Hello how do i destroy logic volumes?
[10:08] <FourFire> Hello
[10:08] <BrixSat> i want to wipe all logic volumes and things shown by pvscan and lvdisplay
[10:09] <FourFire> when I run "sudo -s" in the terminal on 12.04 and am instructed to input my password the terminal refuses all input (I can't type anything)
[10:10] <mudkip908> FourFire: You can type. It just doesn't show the letters, that's a security measure.
[10:10] <k1l_> FourFire: it just doesnt show the password or *******. just type your password and press enter
[10:10] <FourFire> oh
[10:11] <FourFire> thanks :D
[10:12] <poppy> anyone know a command to make a launcher icon bounce?
[10:13] <poppy> i know about notify-send, but not how to make an icon bounce or wiggle
[10:14] <jago25_98> Do you find after a couple of apt-get upgrade(s) things start breaking?
[10:20] <xeonix> May I get some help with my acer 5755G overheating issue, tired of searching for a solution over google.
[10:22] <HypnotiX1> which is better to use photoshop, VM or wine ?
[10:23] <mudkip908> CS2 works well in wine
[10:23] <mudkip908> newer versions not so much
[10:23] <lunarjar> WWhich company makes the best linux compatible laptops that you can buy in UK?(except lenovo)
[10:23] <kwtm> How do I find which package a given file/program is in?  e.g. if I want to run Program1, do I install PackageOfProgramsA, or PackageOfProgramsB, etc.?  (I already know how to use "apt-file list pkgname" if I already know the package name, but I'm trying to find the package name, which is likely not yet installed)
[10:23] <poppy> found my answer here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI
[10:30] <Dark_light> does the 13.10 alpha already run on mir ?
[10:31] <guest8879> Hello. Is there a way to delete a UbuntuForums.org account created before the recent hackers attack, without creating a new account on UbuntuOne as requested by the new login procedure? I didn't find contact information on UbuntuForums.org and don't want to create a new account when I want to delete the old one. Thank you.
[10:32] <k1l_> guest8879: ask in #ubuntuforums
[10:32] <guest8879> (the creation of a new account would be to post this question there, and I want to avoid it)
[10:33] <guest8879> thanks a lot k1l_
[10:33] <guest8879> have a nice day.
[10:33] <k1l_> you too
[10:35] <guest8879> I already entered #ubuntuforums before #ubuntu but the header says that it's not for support
[10:36] <guest8879> and "For username issues, post in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=123" but it requires an account :-)
[10:38] <jrib> guest8879: not for ubuntu support, but you should discuss forum related things there
[10:39] <guest8879> Got it. I'll do it, thanks.
[10:39] <guest8879> jrib: Have a nice day.
[10:41] <caopengfei> hi!
[10:42] <dongyue> hello
[10:43] <caopengfei> is there somepeople has the local ip number?
[10:46] <arash> hi , I'd like to install a .run file , how can I do It ?
[10:46] <somsip> arash: chmod +x file.run; ./file.run (usually)
[10:47] <Asch> Hello. What's the ideal size for a /boot partition?
[10:47] <arash> thanks
[10:47] <arash> worked
[10:47] <dongyue> 150M
[10:48] <arash> forgot to make It executable
[10:49] <Asch> dongyue: mine is 100Mb big. I can boot, but I'm unable to update kernellinux-headers and other packages. Would a simple resize do the trick?
[10:49] <somsip> Asch: resize or delete unused, old kernels
[10:50] <Asch> somsip: Can I just clean the partition and run software updater?
[10:50] <Asch> somsip: Is there a way to make Ubuntu clean old kernels automatically?
[10:50] <somsip> Asch: clean? You can use the package manager to delete old, unused kernels, but if you go in and just delete stuff, expect problems
[10:51] <Asch> somsip:
[10:51] <Asch> somsip: ok, ty
[10:51] <PeterGriffin> What is the best practice for auto-mount network partition when the host is online?
[10:51] <somsip> Asch: there are various methods to remove old kernels. Eg: http://is.gd/HKIk7Y and http://is.gd/dgb9lA
[10:52] <somsip> Asch: you should understand what you are doing and not just blindly follow these instructions to make sure you don't render your system unusuable
[10:56] <client> Hello
[10:56] <joako537> Hi
[10:56] <UbuPhillup> hi
[10:57] <client> Can you tell me how to bypass the source code of a website that requires a password? I downloaded all the files, but when I view the source code, it redirects me to their www
[10:58] <Dr_willis> 'view' the source code in a text editor. not your browser perhaps
[10:58] <Dr_willis> then edit it.
[10:59] <mudkip908> client: when you try to view the source code of the website, or the files?
[11:00] <client> I used a tool called webhttrack to download the source code of the site, but the site is password protected, although it looks like the source code is showing the site
[11:00] <bobslee> how can i mount 9p ?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:00] <mudkip908> client: Upload the index.html to a pastebin
[11:01] <somsip> client: the tool you use may allow you to add the HTTP basic auth details in the URL. Eg: http://user:password@www.example.com
[11:02] <Dr_willis> bobslee,  and a '9p' is what?
[11:03] <mudkip908> Dr_willis: probably a Bell Plan9 partition
[11:03] <bobslee> Dr_willis:  a plan9 (bell labs) filesystem
[11:03] <Dr_willis> see if the kernel supports the filesystem, man mount may mention it also.
[11:03] <Supaplex> hah. everytime the wife wants me to install something on the w7 tablet, I tell her try linux. And, this is why :D https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9C_aaCX9CyJMklhWGt3dTVmczQ/edit?usp=sharing
[11:03] <bobslee> i'm trying.. we'll see
[11:03] <Dr_willis> used to be come /proc/fileystems (i think?) file that listed all supported filesystems by the kernel
[11:04] <client> I'm not sure which index.html to pastebin. There is 1 for the web app itself and another 1
[11:04] <mudkip908> client: Both of them
[11:04] <Dr_willis> client,  so pastebin themboth? not like they charge :P
[11:04] <bobslee> Dr_willis: thanx. there's no 9p in it.. hold on
[11:04] <Dr_willis> bobslee,  or linux dosent call it '9p'
[11:05] <bobslee> Dr_willis: maybe ninep :s lol
[11:05] <mudkip908> bobslee: look into this: http://v9fs.sourceforge.net/
[11:06] <Dr_willis> A kernel client driver for Linux is part of the v9fs project.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9P
[11:06] <mudkip908> Looks like its only for 2.6 though
[11:07] <client> Here is the source code for the actual app itself: http://pastebin.com/kjU2HmDi
[11:09] <Lunar_LanderU> hi, I got the following problem on a new 12.04 ubuntu install: when I click on Suspend in the Gear Menu, the PC sometimes starts 10 minutes or so later without me doing anything, any ideas about this?
[11:09] <Lunar_LanderU> the syslog doesn't have anything that could help as far as I see it
[11:09] <Lunar_LanderU> (also I am at work now)
[11:10] <mudkip908> client: You are trying to mirror a webapp.
[11:10] <Dr_willis> use hibernate instead of suspend perhaps.  - could be its getting some sort of key click, or mouse move thats unsuspending it. (i dont use either one)
[11:10] <mudkip908> That won't really work
[11:10] <client> Yes mudkip908
[11:10] <client> Why not?
[11:10] <Lunar_LanderU> there is no hibernate in 12.04 anymore
[11:10] <Dr_willis> Lunar_LanderU,  it can be enabled.
[11:10] <Lunar_LanderU> ah
[11:10] <mudkip908> If it was only clientside (javascript) then it would be possible
[11:11] <Dr_willis> you need a swap partion = ram+a bit more.
[11:11] <Lunar_LanderU> also, the strange thing is, that it turns on when I am lying in bed, 3 m away from the system
[11:11] <Lunar_LanderU> yeah I got a 2 GB swap which the installer made
[11:11] <mudkip908> However it also uses serverside scripts, which you can't mirror
[11:11] <client> mudkip908 it looks like it does mostly run client-side
[11:11] <client> they have this giant client-side .js file
[11:12] <Twenty-three> hi guys, i did a software update yesterday, i am not entirely sure what was updated but it was listed as "ubuntu base" and i was requested to reboot for this update, after rebooting the GUI wouldn't load any more if i did ctrl+alt+F1 i got to the terminal, i uninstalled Nvidia drivers and then reinstalled them, i can get to the GUI now but i only get to see icons, there is no launch bar or...
[11:12] <Twenty-three> ...the bar at the top, not sure what the problem might be, any clues?
[11:13] <Lunar_LanderU> Dr_willis: the only thing that I can imagine besides that is when reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/158532/xubuntu-12-04-restarts-after-suspend-only-from-my-account , that my screen is set to go black after 15 minutes. on my old machine I used to set that to 1 h
[11:13] <Lunar_LanderU> but I will try to enable hibernate mode
[11:13] <mudkip908> client: When you open the index.html it just takes you back to the login page?
[11:13] <Dr_willis> Lunar_LanderU,  i dont use either one. I got a SSD hd - i can boot in like 15 sec. so dont see much point in hibernate or suspend
[11:14] <Lunar_LanderU> yeah
[11:14] <client> yes it does. But from what I see on the actual code itself, all the layouts, etc. is there. I just need to bypass the login page @ mudkip908
[11:14] <Lunar_LanderU> in my case it is a question of closing Firefox and Pidgin and so on and then shutting down
[11:14] <Lunar_LanderU> I got a normal HDD but that is also pretty fast, so I probably also would do a normal shutdown now
[11:15] <mudkip908> client: What happens when you load it with javascript disabled?
[11:15] <Lunar_LanderU> was just wondering why it happened, the old box could sit a whole day in suspend
[11:15] <client> How do I do that? mudkip908
[11:15] <mudkip908> client: What browser are you using?
[11:16] <client> firefox
[11:16] <client> @mudkip908
[11:16] <mudkip908> client: go to Preferences->Content and untick Enable JavaScript
[11:17] <angs> how can I watch only one process on top?
[11:17] <client> it gives a blank page @ mudkip908
[11:18] <angs> top tool
[11:18] <Dr_willis> angs,  htop may have more features. its a hyped up top.
[11:18] <angs> thanks
[11:18] <client> both the index.html files give blank pages
[11:18] <mudkip908> client: Can you zip up everything you mirrored and upload it somewhere?
[11:21] <Lunar_LanderU> thanks Dr_willis !
[11:21] <Lunar_LanderU> :)
[11:22] <client> ok give me 2 seconds mudkip908
[11:26] <Twenty-three> hi guys, i did a software update yesterday, i am not entirely sure what was updated but it was listed as "ubuntu base" and i was requested to reboot for this update, after rebooting the GUI wouldn't load any more if i did ctrl+alt+F1 i got to the terminal, i uninstalled Nvidia drivers and then reinstalled them, i can get to the GUI now but i only get to see icons, there is no launch bar or...
[11:26] <Twenty-three> ...the bar at the top, not sure what the problem might be, any clues?
[11:26] <Dr_willis> !info ubuntu-base
[11:27] <Dr_willis> most likely it was a kernel update.  you could tyr selecting some of the older kernels from the grub menu
[11:27] <Dr_willis> also test with a newly made user. see if they have the same issue.
[11:28] <Twenty-three> Dr_willis: i'll give it a go, brb
[11:28] <Twenty-three> Dr_willis: btw, thanks :)
[11:30] <alfreddba> z8z:thanks for ur help finally completed.....
[11:31] <bobslee> Dr_willis: 9p (module) is supplied by linux-image-extra-x.x.x-generic (strange name)... after loading, it's listed under /proc/filesystems.
[11:42] <Tantor> Does someone know where I can find the log files of bind?
[11:42] <reisio> Tantor: probably in /var/log/
[11:44] <Tantor> Unfortunately not in /var/log
[11:44] <Guest39380> ubuntu edge
[11:45] <DJones> !edge | Guest39380
[11:46] <HypnotiX1> how do i copy files from linux to my virtual machine disk ?
[11:47] <HypnotiX1> like my photoshop kit :)
[11:47] <reisio> HypnotiX1: which virtual machine system?
[11:47] <HypnotiX1> VirtualBox
[11:48] <reisio> HypnotiX1: http://wvarner.blogspot.com/2008/05/installing-virtualbox-guest-additions.html
[11:48] <HypnotiX1> the one from the software center
[11:48] <reisio> HypnotiX1: what's the host OS?
[11:48] <reisio> oh nevermind :)
[11:48] <reisio> yeah virtualbox's shared folder stuff is simplest
[11:48] <HypnotiX1> windows7
[11:48] <magdur> how can i learn to my computers working time ?
[11:48] <reisio> HypnotiX1: host is the one the VM runs on
[11:49] <reisio> not the one the OS runs in
[11:49] <HypnotiX1> sry :)
[11:49] <reisio> host = on, guest = in
[11:49] <HypnotiX1> ubuntu 13.04
[11:49] <Guest39380> cant you access the linux file tree from the virtual machine and then copy paste?
[11:49] <reisio> yeah sorry I already knew the answer just forgot :p
[11:49] <reisio> magdur: pardon?
[11:49] <willsmii2i>  HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
[11:49] <reisio> willsmii2i: :)
[11:49] <willsmii2i>  HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
[11:49] <willsmii2i>  HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
[11:49] <DJones> willsmii2i: Stop that
[11:49] <willsmii2i>  HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
[11:49] <reisio> willsmii2i: #hijos :)
[11:49] <willsmii2i>  HIJOS DE PUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
[11:49] <FloodBot1> willsmii2i: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:49] <karoly> Hey
[11:50] <reisio> HypnotiX1: so wow I got it backwards twice
[11:50] <magdur> reisio özür dilerim pek soramadım ama ne bilgisayarımın ne zaman çalışmağa başladığını nasıl öğrenebilirim ?
[11:50] <reisio> HypnotiX1: right, install guest additions, and go to the VM settings and set up a shared folder
[11:50] <HypnotiX1> i set a shared folder there
[11:50] <reisio> HypnotiX1: and check the box that says mount a utomatically
[11:50] <HypnotiX1> but i dont see it in windows
[11:50] <karoly> Someone is using Xubuntu 13.10 ??
[11:50] <reisio> HypnotiX1: and it should just show up when you open windows explorer, down after C:
[11:50] <reisio> HypnotiX1: you check the box?
[11:51] <reisio> karoly: someone is
[11:51] <HypnotiX1> yes
[11:51] <HypnotiX1> its auto mounted
[11:51] <reisio> magdur: the age of your installation?
[11:51] <reisio> HypnotiX1: :)
[11:51] <magdur> 12.04
[11:51] <reisio> magdur: I don't know what you're asking
[11:52] <magdur> my computer when start working ?
[11:52] <cheesecakes> how do i share display=:1 with a windows machine over the network?
[11:52] <reisio> magdur: that doesn't make any sense
[11:52] <karoly> Is normal that i can't set the audio level with the plugin in the bar on Xubuntu 13.10 ?? i can only set the volume with the keyboard
[11:52] <reisio> magdur: are you asking when you installed the OS?
[11:52] <reisio> karoly: may just be misconfigured
[11:52] <cheesecakes> there are three FloodBot1
[11:52] <magdur> no how many time is it work?
[11:52] <cheesecakes> :/
[11:53] <karoly> And how can i configurate it properly?
[11:53] <reisio> magdur: is it work?
[11:53] <HypnotiX1> reisio: so what else can i do?
[11:53] <cheesecakes> i am using 13.04
[11:53] <reisio> karoly: actually I think I encountered that bug
[11:53] <reisio> karoly: try opening 'alsamixer' in a terminal, and using pgup/dn to change the level of Master
[11:53] <karoly> So it's normal and it will be fixed ??
[11:53] <reisio> karoly: it may just magically start working afterwards
[11:53] <magdur> computer running ?
[11:53] <reisio> HypnotiX1: hrmm?
[11:54] <reisio> magdur: rephrase your question, it makes no sense
[11:54] <KaitoKid> good day guys, I have a problem with my Alt & Ctrl key. When I press once the Alt key I can able to move the window without holding it and I have to press it again to deactivate it just the same the Ctrl key but instead of moving the window it adjust the zoom level.
[11:54] <reisio> magdur: "uptime"?
[11:54] <KaitoKid> BTW, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04
[11:54] <HypnotiX1> i set a shared folder from the VB, with auto mount on but i dont see it in windows
[11:54] <karoly> No reisio it doesn't work :( i can change the volume but it doesn't work...
[11:54] <reisio> KaitoKid: one of your ctrl/alt/shift/windows/mouse buttons are stuck, give them all a good smack
[11:55] <reisio> HypnotiX1: open my computer
[11:55] <reisio> HypnotiX1: it'll be nearer the end
[11:55] <magdur> definitely
[11:55] <reisio> HypnotiX1: and you have to install guest additions first
[11:55] <KaitoKid> reisio: But I tried it with windows and it's fine
[11:55] <reisio> karoly: with alsamixer?
[11:55] <KaitoKid> reisio: I'm only having a problem with Ubuntu :/
[11:55] <reisio> KaitoKid: tried what?
[11:56] <karoly> yep, i change the master volume and the "bubble" in the top right corner appears and everithing but the plugin in the bar still had the icon for "muted"
[11:56] <reisio> KaitoKid: does your keyboard have a function lock?
[11:56] <KaitoKid> reisio: Here's the scenario. When I press Alt key once, the move window function activates without holding the Alt key. and to deactivate the move window I have to press Alt key again
[11:56] <KaitoKid> reisio: Like a caps lock, to be similar
[11:57] <magdur> when is my computers uptime ?
[11:57] <reisio> KaitoKid: maybe you have accidentally enabled sticky keys or something
[11:57] <reisio> magdur: open a terminal, type 'uptime', then ENTER
[11:58] <reisio> karoly: so the icon is just misrepresentative?
[11:58] <reisio> 'cause that isn't exactly what you said earlier :)
[11:59] <karoly> Exatly, but i can still set the volume with the keyboard buttons V+ & V- . Not only the icon but the entire plugin, when i click on it nothing appears but a little white square
[12:00] <magdur> thank to reisio
[12:00] <reisio> karoly: maybe ask #xubuntu
[12:00] <karoly> .....excuse me.. how?? xD
[12:00] <HypnotiX1> reisio:  sry im lost :) ubuntu is my host, windows 7 is my guest
[12:00] <reisio> karoly: /join #xubuntu
[12:01] <HypnotiX1> i shared the folder rebooted and yeah nothing
[12:01] <pvl1>  /close
[12:01] <karoly> ok thanks
[12:01] <reisio> HypnotiX1: did you install guest additions?
[12:02] <HypnotiX1> nop
[12:05] <reisio> didn't I say to, like two or three times? :p
[12:05] <reisio> or five
[12:05] <HypnotiX1> i cant find the devices menu :)
[12:05] <HypnotiX1> im on step 6 :D
[12:05] <HypnotiX1> Click on Install Guest Additions… from the Devices menu, then run mount /media/cdrom.
[12:06] <SuperLag> What exactly is the ~/Templates for? I know that probably sounds like an obvious question... "to put templates in"... but it seems like if Ubuntu were going to create that dir in your ~, then it would have some sample templates already....?
[12:06] <SuperLag> reisio: no... 7
[12:07] <reisio> SuperLag: that's a freedesktop thing, Ubuntu probably simply did not remove it
[12:07] <reisio> SuperLag: you can however
[12:07] <reisio> free desktop or gnome, one or the other, or both :)
[12:08] <reisio> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/02/13/add-your-document-templates-to-gnome/
[12:08] <magdur> can you suggest best firewall for ubuntu ?
[12:08] <SuperLag> magdur: one that you use :)
[12:08] <SuperLag> magdur: as opposed to not... :)
[12:09] <magdur> superlag sorry i dont understand
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> magdur  ubuntu uses iptables
[12:09] <reisio> they all use iptables
[12:09] <reisio> doesn't it come with ufw?
[12:09] <HypnotiX1> reisio: i think that guide is if i run ubuntu from windows
[12:10] <HypnotiX1> not the other way around
[12:10] <karoly> it's hard to find 13.10 assistance D:
[12:10] <SuperLag> magdur: I'm just saying that any firewall is better than no firewall :)
[12:10] <SuperLag> karoly: #ubuntu+1
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> magdur  ufw is a basic GUI, fwbuilder is more advanced
[12:10] <reisio> HypnotiX1: yes I said that as well
[12:11] <HypnotiX1> well i have ubuntu installed and im running windows in the vbox
[12:11] <magdur> monkeydust what is fwbuilder ?
[12:11] <SuperLag> karoly: no, it's not... not at all :)
[12:11] <ffio> what does bootstrapping means ?
[12:11] <magdur> and what is iptables ?
[12:12] <Guest25105> hey
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> magdur  http://www.fwbuilder.org/4.0/quick_start_guide.shtml
[12:12] <Guest25105> hello everyone
[12:12] <Guest25105> good evening
[12:12] <Guest25105> would you like talk with me?
[12:13] <bazhang> !ot | Guest25105
[12:13] <Guest25105> OK ,
[12:13] <Guest25105> I  have a problem
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> magdur  read this to get to know iptables https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[12:14] <magdur> thank to everyone
[12:14] <magdur> i will read it
[12:14] <Guest25105> magdur
[12:14] <Guest25105> where are you form
[12:14] <Guest25105> from
[12:15] <Guest25105> which country do you live
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[12:15] <DJones> Guest25105: This channel is for Ubuntu support, if you have a support question, you are welcome to ask it in the channel, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Guest25105  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:16] <karoly> how can i make transmission start auto when i turn on the computer
[12:17] <Guest47332>  
[12:17] <reisio> karoly: run it, log out & save session
[12:17] <reisio> done
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> karoly  alt-f2 > startup applications > add transmission
[12:18] <karoly> MonkeDust when i press alt+f2 appears a search bar... am i supposed to select transmission from there?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> karoly  no, search startup applications from there
[12:19] <karoly>  ah xD ok thanks
[12:19] <stephen_> Hello
[12:19] <karoly> dammit i can't translate startup applications in italian DD:
[12:20] <stephen_> Im using xubuntu with Gnome shell
[12:23] <Twenty-three> Dr_willis: hi, i came here earlier asking for help with the GUI not loading when booting ubuntu, you were right, i selected a different kernel in GRUB and the resolution is correct, everything fine, except the launcher bar and the bar at the top are still absent and i don't know what to do about it
[12:23] <KaitoKid> guys, can someone help with my problem? When I press the Alt key it activates the move window function in which case I don't have to hold the Alt key anymore, and to deactivate the move window function I have to press Alt key again.
[12:23] <KaitoKid> Similar to caps/num lock
[12:24] <Twenty-three> kaitokid, maybe look into your desktop shortcuts?
[12:24] <Twenty-three> keyboard shortcuts*
[12:24] <KaitoKid> Twenty-three: Yes, I have looked into it. But I can't find it there :/
[12:24] <riply> hi guys, are there any imap/mailservers admins around that would be keen to help me with a little authentication issue I am having, running Ubuntu Server an dVirtualmin?
[12:24] <KaitoKid> maybe it's having a conflict with other programs that I'm not aware of :/
[12:25] <jrib> riply: just ask your actual question.  If anyone knows how to help you, they will respond
[12:26] <Twenty-three> i googled trying to find how to reset unity but haven't found anything actually helpful, i found approaches that seem outdated (prior to 12.04)
[12:27] <riply> jrib, thanks man, I will do
[12:27] <karoly> Cani reinstall the XFCE Audio Daemon ?
[12:27] <karoly> XFCE Volume Daemon*
[12:28] <reisio> Xfce
[12:28] <reisio> you can if you want
[12:28] <karoly> how ?
[12:29] <SuperLag> reisio: if that's unwelcome, my apologies.
[12:29] <reisio> I don't mind PMs, but msgs about PMs is excessive! :p
[12:31] <natix> hi all
[12:31] <natix> Could some please help on svn ?
[12:34] <reisio> natix: #svn
[12:35] <natix> reisio: thank you :)
[12:35] <Pici> natix, reisio: Their channel is #subversion
[12:35] <joshu> I'm configuring lightdm and I don't understand what this means if someone can please explain: "user-authority-in-system-dir = True if session authority should be in the system location"
[12:35] <karoly> reisio nobody on #xubuntu knows what's my problem with the volume plugin D:
[12:36] <reisio> karoly: give it some time, it's early
[12:36] <karoly> Ooook
[12:36] <reisio> Pici: nope
[12:36] <Pici> karoly: You said that you were using 13.10 in #xubuntu. 13.10 is not yet released and is likely to have problems.  Also, support is in #ubuntu+1 only for that release.
[12:36] <Pici> reisio: really? hrm.
[12:37] <reisio> it's #svn
[12:37] <reisio> they've set +s like idiots
[12:37] <karoly> Ooook Pici
[12:41] <zuzu> hello I resized my ecryptfs root partition but there is still no free space after reboot
[12:41] <zuzu> when I do df -h
[12:42] <zuzu> in gparted you can see  it is 20GB
[12:42] <choct155> I'd like to apply a patch for my network adapter, but it appears to be applied on top of 3.10-rc5.  This appears to be well into Saucy Salamander, but I am currently running Raring Ringtail (v 3.9.0).  Am I correct in assuming I would have to upgrade to Saucy Salamander before applying this patch?  Is Saucy far enough along at this point to do so?
[12:42] <zuzu>  /dev/sda1 is still only 7GB but I resized it to 20 GB from live cd and rebooted
[12:42] <Guest25105> hello friends .Do you like to talk with me
[12:43] <Orpheon> I'm adding the wine ppa with $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa, yet for some reason there is no package called wine1.6
[12:43] <Orpheon> is this normal on a 11.10?
[12:43] <adamk> Guest25105: You've been asked to take idle chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic twice already.
[12:43] <karoly> wine is in the official repository i think  i use apt-get install wine and it worked
[12:44] <Orpheon> yeah, but I want wine1.6
[12:44] <Orpheon> just apt-get install wine gets the version 1.4
[12:44] <ffio> what does bootstrapping means ?
[12:44] <nxis> what are you using wine for?
[12:44] <nxis> is it really working now?
[12:44] <Guest25105> wine ,what is it?
[12:45] <Orpheon> nxis, in my case, trying to get league of legends to work
[12:45] <karoly> wine is used to install windows software pretty much
[12:45] <BluesKaj> !wine > Guest25105
[12:45] <ramsrambo> USB boot error, installed Ubuntu 12.10 using unetbootin
[12:45] <xormor> !bootstrap | ffio
[12:45] <wsnipex> Orpheon, ubuntu 11.10 is deprecated, no new builds accepted on launchpad
[12:45] <Orpheon> oh
[12:46] <Guest25105> tell me wine?
[12:46] <Guest25105> what is it/
[12:46] <Orpheon> wsnipex, is there any way to override that and get a ppa from a newer OS?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Guest25105, look at the pm
[12:46] <xormor> ffio: bootstrap is when the operating system and the whole computer starts up.
[12:46] <karoly> Guest25105: Wine is used to install windows software
[12:46] <wsnipex> no, you must build it yourself
[12:46] <gregor_> hey guys how do i install skype on ubuntu becase its not in the software center ?
[12:46] <Guest25105> oh ,thanks
[12:46] <xormor> ffio: first the Power On Self Test, POST, then the operating system.
[12:46] <Guest25105> what is ppa
[12:46] <BluesKaj> !ppa
[12:47] <xormor> !boot | ffio
[12:47] <ffio> xormor: !bootstrap
[12:47] <ffio> xormor: soryr
[12:47] <ramsrambo> USB boot error, installed Ubuntu 12.10 using unetbootin
[12:47] <xormor> ffio, that's ok.
[12:47] <zuzu> gregor_: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/ > then click linux
[12:47] <metxas> ramsrambo, use lili (linux usb creator)
[12:47] <xormor> ffio, it is when the computer ties its shoelaces or straps its boots.
[12:47] <karoly> ramsrambo: maybe your bios doesn't support bot from usb
[12:48] <Guest25105> oh ,my knowledge is lack
[12:48] <xormor> ffio, the whole startup of the system, when the computer starts.
[12:48] <ramsrambo> karoly : but I can boot from the same usb on another machine
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> gregor_  skype is in the software center, but you have to activate the 3rd party source, first
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> Guest25105  that's called 'learning'
[12:48] <karoly> ramsrambo: the same unetbootin usb drive?
[12:49] <zuzu> can anyone help me with my ext4 resize issue?
[12:49] <gregor_> strange i cant seem to see the linux option for it ?
[12:49] <ramsrambo> karole : yes! the same usb boots very well on my lappy (core i7) but fails to boot on my desktop
[12:49] <karoly> ramsrambo: so probably is a BIOS problem.... what BIOS do you have ??
[12:50] <ffio> xormor: ok so collectively what ever processess that undertakes when a computer starts is known as bootstrap  correct?
[12:50] <karoly> gregor_: have you tried apt-get install skype ?
[12:50] <gregor_> never mind i found it
[12:50] <gregor_> ty
[12:50] <ramsrambo> karoly : I went to the BIOS setup and changed to USB booting that is the reason it is giving me a boot error
[12:50] <xormor> ffio, yes, system startup.
[12:50] <zuzu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5932665/
[12:50] <karoly> ramsrambo: so you gave the USB Boot !ft place in priority ?
[12:51] <karoly> 1st place*
[12:51] <ramsrambo> karoly : yup!
[12:51] <ffio> xormor: ok :)
[12:51] <karoly> ramsrambo: and it gives you an error and the boot stops or it boots from HDD skipping the USB ?
[12:52] <ramsrambo> karoly : it stops after saying "Boot Error"
[12:52] <karoly> ramsrambo: that's strange... what model is your BIOS ?
[12:53] <ramsrambo> karoly : intel P4 865gbf mother board
[12:54] <zuzu> how come my system only sees 7GB of my 20GB partition?
[12:54] <karoly> ramsrambo: yes but i need the BIOS model not the mother board
[12:55] <ramsrambo> karoly : Bios ver BF86510A.86A.0077.P25
[12:56] <karoly> ramsrambo: have you tried updating the BIOS ?
[12:57] <ramsrambo> karoly : Intel stopped giving the BIOS updates and I hv the latest one
[12:57] <karoly> ramsrambo: in the BIOS options have you activated the USB Legacy Support ?
[12:58] <karoly> ramsrambo: anyways i gotta go! good luck ;)
[12:59] <magdur> guys my mobile modem dont work in ubuntu what can i do
[12:59] <ramsrambo> karoly : nope there is on legacy support under the BIOS only enable and disable USB boot option is avail
[13:00] <Daekdroom> Is the Lubuntu default ISO a LiveCD too?
[13:00] <Johnny_Linux> ramsrambo,  is windows on the machine ?
[13:01] <magdur> guys my mobile modem dont work in ubuntu what can i do
[13:01] <ramsrambo> Johnny_Linux : nope no windows but I hv ubuntu but it has crashed
[13:02] <Johnny_Linux> ramsrambo,  does it give boot options text when it boots, and, try hitting esc or f12 on boot, there should be either one
[13:02] <ramsrambo> Johnny_Linux : no it is not coming to that screen at all
[13:02] <Johnny_Linux> interesting
[13:02] <gregor_> dose anyknow here i can downlaod wmware for linux for free?
[13:03] <ramsrambo> Johnny_Linux : I tried the same USB stick on my lappy it boots very well
[13:03] <zuzu> gregor_: vmware.com
[13:03] <Johnny_Linux> there should be a boot options text when it boots before bios
[13:03] <Johnny_Linux> if not, it bay be outdated
[13:03] <ffio> currently i have setup LAMP stack, ftp and ssh services are running. now can i create a live cd of it ?
[13:04] <ramsrambo> Johnny_Linux : when I boot on my lappy it displayed the Unetbootin menu
[13:04] <BluesKaj> gregor_, vmware isn't free , try virtualbox ,it's free
[13:04] <zuzu> BluesKaj: vmware player is free (as in free beer)
[13:04] <Johnny_Linux> ramsrambo,  when it dos that, dont click anything just let run its course
[13:04] <BluesKaj> yeah Ziber , have you tried it ?
[13:04] <ramsrambo> Johnny_Linux : but the same USB stick gives me boot error and stops on my desktop
[13:05] <BluesKaj> oops zuzu , have you tried vmware player?
[13:05] <Johnny_Linux> ramsrambo,  maybe you need to reinstall the usb drive, remember, format it to msdos first
[13:05] <Johnny_Linux> fat
[13:05] <Johnny_Linux> 32
[13:06] <ramsrambo> Johnny_Linux : okk! just use format cmd on win 7
[13:06] <zuzu> BluesKaj: yes it works but no snapshotting
[13:06] <zuzu> BluesKaj: that's the limitation. Then you need vmware workstation, which isn't free
[13:06] <Johnny_Linux> yes, but format it to fat and then use unetbootin to do the rest
[13:06] <choct155> I'd like to apply a patch for my network adapter, but it appears to be applied on top of 3.10-rc5.  This appears to be well into Saucy Salamander, but I am currently running Raring Ringtail (v 3.9.0).  Am I correct in assuming I would have to upgrade to Saucy Salamander before applying this patch?  Is Saucy far enough along at this point to do so?
[13:06] <ramsrambo> Johnny_Linux : alright lettme try that tooo
[13:06] <zimbo> good day, how are you
[13:06] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[13:07] <zimbo> is it possible to use WhatsApp under ubuntu
[13:07] <Lope> okay so I've copied all the data off my windows NTFS partition (sda5). Now I'm gonna delete it and create an EXT partition. I figure I'll use the GUI for this.
[13:07] <zimbo> it's a mobile phone app used for instant messaging, usually to replace SMSing
[13:07] <jony_easyrider> how can I install a Canon LBP6020 under Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:08] <zuzu> I resized my /dev/sda1 from 7GB to 20GB. The partition looks okay but the system still thinks it is 7GB. Where to look?
[13:08] <zuzu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5932665/
[13:09] <BluesKaj> zuzu, yeah , I recall there was a catch with the vmware player , it was a long time ago ...Virtulalbox works well.
[13:09] <ffio> currently i have setup LAMP stack, ftp and ssh services are running. now can i create a live cd of it ?
[13:10] <zimbo> anyone been able to message other people using whatsapp on a computer without a SIM or a phone number?
[13:10] <ffio> zimbo: yeah it's possible
[13:11] <ffio> there is an emulator called bluestack or something similar to it..
[13:11] <zimbo> i see, ffio, thanks, have you tried it? how did you register on to the whatsapp network without a phone number? or can you temporarily use a cell number that you have access to??
[13:12] <OerHeks> jony_easyrider, i do not see your Canon LBP-6020 listed in openprinting.org
[13:12] <ffio> zimbo: currently i don't use it my friends use it, so i have to ask them about it.
[13:12] <jony_easyrider> OerHeks, and this meens that it won't work?
[13:13] <zimbo> ffio thanks
[13:13] <ffio> zimbo: np
[13:14] <zuzu> for those interested, I will try this
[13:14] <zuzu> http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13486
[13:14] <Lope> whoa. i just deleted my NTFS data partition. that was scary :)
[13:15] <Lope> Should I make a whole bunch of partitions or just one fat EXT4 partition for all my data?
[13:15] <zimbo> ffio: in case you or anyone else cares, this is how to use the whatsapp network under ubuntu: http://linuxg.net/whosthere-an-whatsapp-client-working-on-ubuntu/
[13:15] <Veidit> So if I want to upgrade from 10.4 to 10.10, is this even possible? do-release-upgrade just wants me to go to 12.4
[13:16] <wilee-nilee> Veidit, desktop right?
[13:16] <ffio> zimbo: that will be useful :)
[13:16] <OerHeks> jony_easyrider, canon is know as a bad opensource supporter.
[13:16] <Veidit> wilee-nilee: No, server.
[13:16] <jony_easyrider> I have many LBP 6000 at the office and they are working fine
[13:16] <jony_easyrider> OerHeks, I have many LBP 6000 at the office and they are working fine
[13:17] <Ritesh> how can i register my nickname on irc freenode
[13:17] <nxis> i have a question regarding ubuntu privacy. I heard that starting with 12.10 - there is a major privacy issue (amazon search?…). Is there something similar in 12.04? Should some tweaks be made there to enforce privacy?
[13:17] <bdd_newbie> how to connect to ftp server using ssh command localhost port 3000
[13:17] <Pici> Veidit: 10.10 is not a supported release. You should be going from 10.04 to 12.04, which are both LTS releases.
[13:17] <Pici> !register > Ritesh
[13:17] <wilee-nilee> Veidit, 10.10 is end of life and all up to 12.04 which is not
[13:17] <Lope> At the moment I've got sda1 windows 32GB, sda2 linux swap 32GB, sda3 linux 32GB, 654GB remaining. Now I was thinking of just making one final EXT4 partition of 654GB? or should I make some more smaller ones? I've heard of people using a partition JUST for downloads, for example. is any of that necessary if you have loads of free space?
[13:18] <Veidit> Pici: I have no option here, I have to go to 10.10 because of specific software requirements and the cpu dosn't support 12.4
[13:18] <Pricey> nxis: I'd guess the clue there is "starting with 12.10"?
[13:18] <philinux> jony_easyrider: canon provide a linux driver http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/i-SENSYS_LBP6020.aspx?type=download&page=1
[13:18] <Veidit> The cpu is a i586 and it seems that 12.4 wants to have a i686 cpu
[13:19] <Veidit> wilee-nilee: No can do, haveto go to 10.10
[13:19] <wilee-nilee> Veidit, 10.04 is still supported can you not stay there?
[13:19] <Veidit> wilee-nilee: No, stupid software
[13:19] <Veidit> wilee-nilee: Third pary software that requires 10.10
[13:20] <wilee-nilee> Veidit, we don't support end of life.
[13:20] <philinux> jony_easyrider: should be easy to install
[13:20] <tmmunq> 10.04 is lts so go to 12.04
[13:21] <Veidit> wilee-nilee: Yea so you are saying that there is no way to upgrade to 10.10 or that you won't tell me how to do it?
[13:21] <zimbo> ffio just tried it, the client doesn't work. surprising that a project would die that quickly. crazy
[13:22] <zimbo> : (
[13:22] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Veidit read
[13:22] <ffio> zimbo: ohh.. :/
[13:22] <gregor_> how do i get to the downlaods  section in firefox ?
[13:23] <Veidit> ubuntulog: I am aware of that, but I still need 10.10
[13:25] <Pici> Veidit: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com has unsupported packages, but you will no longer be getting security updates and will be essentially on your own.
[13:26] <Veidit> Pici: I know, the damn thing is that I am locked by the vendor for the software we are dependent on.
[13:26] <wilee-nilee> Veidit, read the link, your answer is within. lol.
[13:26] <jony_easyrider> philinux, if I check the "software" it doesn't do anything
[13:26] <BluesKaj> vel
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Veidit, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[13:27] <gvksaini> how register on freenode permanently?
[13:27] <philinux> jony_easyrider: have you got cookies enabled in your browser, it takes me to a screen to select os etc etc
[13:27] <azazel91> does anybody know how i can determine the name of my wirless card shipset
[13:27] <gvksaini> can anyone help me out?
[13:27] <Pici> !register  | ktosiek
[13:27] <BluesKaj> !register
[13:27] <gvksaini> m from haryana
[13:27] <Pici> ktosiek: I fail at tab complete today
[13:28] <wilee-nilee> gvksaini, If no one gives you the code go to #freenode that info is on the web.
[13:28] <Pici> gvksaini: see ubottu's message above.
[13:28] <gvksaini> ! register
[13:28] <Pici> gvksaini: read what ubottu said above.
[13:28] <philinux> jony_easyrider: http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/i-SENSYS_LBP6020.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:14-1060371&page=1&type=download
[13:28] <wilee-nilee> doh and the bot
[13:29] <ffio> hi wilee-nilee :)
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> ffio, what's up
[13:29] <ffio> doing great :)
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> good
[13:29] <ffio> creating a live cd of my current installation :)
[13:30] <wilee-nilee> ffio, Ah, good I did that a couple of times.
[13:30] <ffio> great
[13:31] <ffio> currently i have setup LAMP stack, ftp and ssh services if i create a live cd will all the config files will be there in live cd ?
[13:31] <mhr> How can I add wlan0 to my bond0 which already has eth1 and eth2 as slaves in ubuntu 12.04 server? I tried to search but everywhere i can find only bonding eth0 and eth1 not wlan0.
[13:31] <philinux> azazel91: lspci | grep Network
[13:32] <joshu> anyone know if the little icon in unity-greeter next to the username can be made into a link, like the help link in the remote login box?
[13:33] <nakazanieto> Hmm żre 435 MB system pod odpaleniu, ale nie ma co patrzeć na to bo mam  zainstalowane gnome3 więc pewno  daemony odpala swoje
[13:33] <Pici> !pl | nakazanieto
[13:33] <ffio> wilee-nilee: any idea about it ?
[13:33] <nakazanieto> sorry :) My bad.
[13:33] <gizmo> Hi All
[13:33] <ffio> Pici: which lang was that ?
[13:33] <Pici> ffio: polish.
[13:33] <ffio> :)
[13:34] <tehpwnz> im trying to install pytyle3, can anyone help me with this please? pastebin.com/0naVqZ2K
[13:34] <nxis> one more old question regarding multiboot
[13:35] <nxis> if there are several installations of ubuntu on the same hard drive, how to properly setup /boot directory?
[13:35] <gizmo> I am running ubuntu with parallels on a mac is it the same as if I used a PC?
[13:36] <ikonia> gizmo: same os - same experience
[13:36] <nxis> use shared dedicated /boot partition?
[13:36] <Dr_willis> the vm should emulate a pc. but the 3d acelleration maynot work corectly gizmo
[13:36] <magdur> guys how can i protect my self 0days ?
[13:36] <Dr_willis> nxis,  you may not even want to bother with a /boot partition
[13:36] <zeus> magdur: use NoScript
[13:36] <gizmo> ikonia: thanks
[13:36] <mhr> How can I add wlan0 to my bond0 which already has eth1 and eth2 as slaves in ubuntu 12.04 server? I tried to search but everywhere i can find only bonding eth0 and eth1 not wlan0.
[13:36] <magdur> how will be that ?
[13:37] <ikonia> mhr: probably not a good option to do so, but its the same process just with the interface wlan0 included
[13:37] <Dr_willis> magdur,  totally will depend on what the exploit is exploiting.
[13:37] <bananapie> How do I prevent my ubuntu distro to forget memory cards at shutdown? At each boot, my mac address changes so on the third boot, my ethernet card is now called eth2
[13:37] <ikonia> mhr: a lot of wlan cards won't support it though
[13:37] <ikonia> bananapie: your mac address doesn't randomly change
[13:37] <ikonia> bananapie: you are doing something to change it
[13:38] <bananapie> Yes, the ubuntu is installed on a USB key, and I boot on a different computer each time.
[13:38] <nxis> Dr_willis: assume: sda1 - ubuntu 12.04, sda2 - ubuntu 13.04. then both updating kernel and updating grub. which /boot will be used for grub?
[13:38] <ikonia> bananapie: so what's the issue then ? they are different network cards so will have different macs
[13:38] <philinux> azazel91: also sudo lshw -c network
[13:38] <ikonia> bananapie: it's behaving as it's designed to do
[13:38] <roopak> I have accidently deleted many critical files from my ubuntu 12.04 machine as root user. I have another PC running same version of ubuntu with almost same packages and configuration. I have same hard dis size and same partitioning on both these machines. How can I restore that into my first PC which is not able to boot into the ubuntu OS ?
[13:38] <bananapie> I know, but I want to change the behaviour
[13:38] <ikonia> roopak: what did you delete and how
[13:39] <ikonia> bananapie: well seeing as I suspect your booting from squashfs that's quite tricky
[13:39] <Dr_willis> nxis,   GRUB installs to the mbr of the hard drive. it stores files in /boot/ each os can have its own boot folder on its /. you dont really need a stand alone /boot/ partition (you could share it i guess)  I really dont see much need to dual boot the 2 ubuntuv ersions.
[13:40] <Dr_willis> bananapie,  is this a full install to the usb ? or a live-cd setup on the usb?
[13:40] <wilee-nilee> ffio, I did that about 4 years ago when there was an app that made it easiest, I think it is gone or renamed, not really up on it.
[13:40] <mhr> ikonia, i am getting error -- Master 'bond0', Slave 'wlan0': Error: Enslave failed -- when doing as other interfaces.
[13:40] <Dr_willis> magdur,  dont msg me.. and thers no 'magical' software that will protect you in every case.  If there was.. then everyone wouldbe using it.
[13:40] <ffio> wilee-nilee: ok :)
[13:40] <ikonia> mhr: yor card may not support it, are you trying to do trunking or active/passive
[13:40] <bananapie> I used debootstrap to install the usb key. I added a few packages like vim, partimage
[13:40] <mhr> ikonia, that was when I restarted networking
[13:41] <wilee-nilee> ffio, The web has some info, here is one. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[13:41] <roopak> ikonia: I wanted to purge LAMP server and as I couldn't purge them, I used the command sudo rm -r `locate apache`.  And I think that doesn't matter now because I am not bothered of the original installation. I wnat to clone my second PC into my first.  Because I am afraid I deleted many other files too ( I created a shell script to delete akll files related to apache and mysql )
[13:42] <ffio> wilee-nilee: currently i am refering that link, but wanted to knwo that my config files would be preserverd or not.
[13:42] <magdur> i send message because i cant say that look like to you with red and i dont feel myself safe
[13:42] <ikonia> roopak: that should have only deleted 1 file
[13:42] <magdur> for instance when i use windows i install kaspersky and i feel safe
[13:43] <ikonia> roopak: actually I guess it depends what else you changed for locate to find
[13:43] <wilee-nilee> ffio, Used to be fairly easy, the only problem I had was a good boot, on a usb rather than a cd, but I was experimenting, not really knowing what I was doing, not much has changed for me. ;)
[13:43] <ikonia> roopak: simple - just re-install to be safe
[13:44] <mhr> ikonia, i dont know much about trunking or active/passive but i am using round robin mode
[13:44] <ikonia> mhr: that's not going to work very well, even if your card supported it, which it looks like it doesn't
[13:44] <magdur> @dr_willis how can i tag
[13:44] <magdur> here irc
[13:44] <Dr_willis> magdur,  time to read up on security web sites and learn about things i guess. thers no magical bullet.  and i dont know what you mean by 'tag'
[13:45] <Dr_willis> magdur,  just by running linux instead of windows.. you are 1000x safer. :0
[13:45] <mhr> ok thank you ikonia for your help
[13:45] <fossterer> Hi! After installing and removing xen, my boot time got increased.. What can I do now?
[13:45] <magdur> when you response to me your nick will ve red but i dont know how can i do
[13:46] <Dr_willis> magdur,  time to read up on your IRC CLIENT docs.. its doing that.
[13:46] <jony_easyrider> philinux, TY very much, now I can install the LBP6020 too :)
[13:46] <bananapie> I will add rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to the network startup script
[13:46] <ffio> wilee-nilee: let me experiment and checkout what happends
[13:46] <Dr_willis> !manual magdur
[13:46] <bananapie> can I have more than one pre-start in an init conf script?
[13:46] <Dr_willis> !manual | magdur
[13:47] <ffio> s/happends/happens
[13:47] <philinux> jony_easyrider: always consider looking at the manufacturers support site for linux drivers. It's becoming more common now
[13:47] <philinux> jony_easyrider: good result though
[13:48] <wilee-nilee> ffio, Thats how we learn, the original app I used, had a save for the same machine or any machine, I think it is still supported by someone new but renamed, I just got up so don't remember the original name.
[13:48] <magdur> de_willis where is it doc
[13:48] <Dr_willis> bananapie,  for allthings 'upstart' related - theres the 'upstart cookbook' that has  the best docs ive seen on the topic
[13:49] <jony_easyrider> philinux, now I can see what's was my issue: for the LBP6000 the common driver version was 2.40, but since then the latest common driver version is 2.60 which contains the LBP6020 model too, TY again :)
[13:50] <wilee-nilee> ffio, Ah this was what I used. http://www.remastersys.com/
[13:50] <ffio> remastersys
[13:50] <ffio> yeah
[13:50] <ffio> no it's something like OS/2 system-imager
[13:50] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  i think that project is sort of dead/forked now ;)
[13:50] <Dr_willis> night all.
[13:50] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, Yeah I mentioned that just following up. ;)
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> with the name
[13:51] <reisio> pepole who've had enough with free software are so cute :p
[13:51] <vasilezaremba> My Lenovo x1 Carbon has just been stolen, any recommendations for a new laptop?
[13:52] <vasilezaremba> thinking of trying the Macbook air
[13:52] <alnr> i'm looking for a 2pane filemanager where the 2nd pane can be a quick view of the file selected in 1st pane. like midnight commander but graphical. i dont see a quick view in gnome-commander
[13:52] <SuperLag> vasilezaremba: I've own an Air. Loved it. I'd stick with OS X on it though
[13:53] <SuperLag> vasilezaremba: and put Linux in a VM
[13:53] <BluesKaj> !polls | vasilezaremba
[13:53] <reisio> alnr: like 50%/50% two pane? Those are usually called orthodox
[13:53] <vasilezaremba> I have to wait one month for a new carbon
[13:54] <reisio> a lot of "non-orthodox" file managers have the option, though
[13:54] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_managers
[13:54] <Pici> vasilezaremba: ITs not really on-topic for #ubuntu,  try #ubuntu-offtopic or perhaps ##hardware
[13:54] <alnr> reisio: i want to be able to enlarge the 2nd pane, thats why i'm looking for alt. to mc
[13:54] <vasilezaremba> ok sorry
[13:54] <vasilezaremba> Krusader is all right
[13:55] <reisio> alnr: a lot of GUI managers have a separate area for previews, instead of using the 2nd pane
[13:56] <alnr> hmm i dont see a quick view in krusader
[13:57] <vasilezaremba> F3?
[13:57] <vasilezaremba> aaa, sorry, I know what you mean
[13:58] <alnr> f3 does pop up a window. i basically want to go thru large numbers of files quickly just pressing arrow down on a directory
[13:58] <alnr> on a file list
[13:59] <yatharth> rg
[13:59] <Lope> i got this message when running fdisk /dev/sda: The device presents a logical sector size that is smaller than
[13:59] <Lope> the physical sector size. Aligning to a physical sector (or optimal
[13:59] <Lope> I/O) size boundary is recommended, or performance may be impacted.
[14:00] <bananapie> Dr_willis, thanks. I found the answer immediately in the doc
[14:00] <bananapie> I have bookmarked the page.
[14:00] <Lope> sorry, that was meant to be 1 line. can I do that without killing my installation?
[14:04] <Cristian-> Hello
[14:06] <ses1984> i think i broke one of my installs. i tried to add a user, then added that user to some groups. so far so good. things seem fine. i log in as this user and test things out, great.
[14:06] <AqD> Cristian-: hello!
[14:07] <Cristian-> Hi! may I ask something?
[14:07] <magdur> yes
[14:07] <ses1984> i log in as my old user, and it says, i'm not in the sudoers file. i log in as the new user, and he's also not in the sudoers file. no now one is in the sudoers file...so i'm kinda suck
[14:07] <ses1984> stuck* haha
[14:07] <mudkip908> ses1984: Can't you just login as root?
[14:07] <varunendra> !ask | Cristian-
[14:07] <Cristian-> I want to know if there's a replacement to sabayon profile manager
[14:07] <ses1984> mudkip908: no one knows the root password on ubuntu systems, it's randomly set
[14:08] <Cristian-> sorry for my english... it's not my native language
[14:08] <ikonia> ses1984: boot from a livecd and update it
[14:08] <auronandace> ses1984: no
[14:08] <auronandace> !noroot | ses1984
[14:09] <ses1984> what would i update
[14:09] <ses1984> by the way i'm working on this machine through ssh, i can't even do a clean shutdown because "shutdown: Need to be root"
[14:09] <ikonia> ses1984: you could set a root password, you could put a user in the sudo group,
[14:09] <ikonia> ses1984: how did all the users get removed from the sudo group ?
[14:09] <mudkip908> ses1984: You need physical access.
[14:10] <ses1984> my user wasn't in the sudo group before, but i was able to sudo. this is 10.04 by the way
[14:10] <robertzaccour> I was going through the net install and I wanted to have the option of installing with no desktop, but that option wasn't there. Is net install what I need to do that? Does netinstall install without a desktop?
[14:10] <ikonia> ses1984: the group is "admin" then
[14:10] <mudkip908> that's beacuse the group is actually called wheel
[14:10] <ikonia> ses1984: (on 10.04)
[14:10] <ses1984> i am in that group
[14:10] <ikonia> mudkip908: no, it's admi
[14:10] <ikonia> admin
[14:10] <ikonia> ses1984: if you are in "admin" on 10.04 then you should be fine
[14:10] <mudkip908> sorry , haven't used 10.04 in a while
[14:13] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, The install leaves you with a command line, that not enough?
[14:13] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: I didn't know that, I wanted to make sure. Thanks.
[14:14] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, Just don't add anything, I believe.
[14:14] <irssi-mike> i found this list of commands http://pastebin.com/CMvYu6e2 and what I need to do is copy the entire / from a remote machine to my local machine but i don't understand this code and i'm afraid of what it might do, scp created an infinite loop and rsync isn't supported on the remote machine
[14:15] <ikonia> irssi-mike: what is your end goal ?
[14:15] <irssi-mike> backing up a modem, i want all the files and stuff
[14:16] <irssi-mike> i have ssh access to it
[14:16] <ikonia> irssi-mike: a modem ?
[14:16] <reisio> irssi-mike: it ssh's into a remote host, then runs the command in quotes, then pipes the output to tar
[14:16] <ikonia> irssi-mike: then surly you just want the modem config files
[14:16] <irssi-mike> it's only like 4mb the whole thing, i just want the whole thing really
[14:17] <ikonia> irssi-mike: can you not just scp user@remote:/ .
[14:17] <ses1984> ok, so i'm trying to recover the system that i no longer have root on, put in a live cd and tried to "execute a sell in /dev/sda*" and nothing happens, i tried all the partitions and
[14:17] <ses1984> either nothing happens, or it says mount failed
[14:18] <ikonia> ses1984: why do you no longer have root
[14:18] <reisio> irssi-mike: scp -r, that is
[14:18] <ikonia> ses1984: you said you where in the admin group - that should give you sudo permissions
[14:18] <ikonia> reisio: good catch
[14:18] <reisio> ikonia: I wish we played catch more often :/
[14:18] <ses1984> when i did usermod -G i just typed the groups i wanted to add, not the groups i wanted to be in, so it wiped me out of all the groups i was in like admin
[14:18] <ikonia> ses1984: you said you where in the admin group 20 seconds ago
[14:18] <mudkip908> ses1984: that's why you use gpasswd -a
[14:19] <ses1984> i *was* in it before i screwed it up
[14:19] <ikonia> ses1984: what you screwed up 20 seconds ago ?
[14:19] <ses1984> when i answered that i was in the admin group i was looking at stale output in the terminal from before i executed usermod -G www-data ses1984
[14:19] <ses1984> now i'm jst in that group
[14:20] <ikonia> ses1984: what group is your current user in ?
[14:20] <ses1984> www-data
[14:20] <ikonia> ses1984: that's it
[14:20] <ikonia> ?
[14:20] <ses1984> actually currently im sitting in the live cd main menu trying to execute a shell and it isnt working
[14:20] <ses1984> but yeah, thats the only group im in
[14:20] <mudkip908> ses1984: are you mounting the correct partition?
[14:20] <ikonia> ses1984: ok, boot from a livecd, mount the root file system and either update the group file, or the password file
[14:21] <ikonia> (shadow file too if you do the password file)
[14:21] <ses1984> there are three partitions, tried mounting the first one and the screen flashes but nothing else happens, go back and select other two partitions and it says mount failed
[14:21] <ses1984> i guess those are swap and whatever else
[14:21] <mudkip908> ses1984: do your partitions have labels?
[14:21] <ses1984> no
[14:21] <ses1984> rebooted and confirmed, i'm just in www-data group
[14:21] <mudkip908> ses1984: lsblk -f
[14:22] <ikonia> ses1984: please show me the command you are using to mount your root file system
[14:22] <vnc786> need help to FIND OUT "dhcp service is in stop status after boot how it happened suddenly i have not update anything nor i have made any changes"
[14:22] <ses1984> ikonia: it's whatever the ubuntu 10.04 i386 installer wizard is using to mount root, after that failed i tried 12.04 and had the same thing happen
[14:23] <mudkip908> ses1984: just give him the command
[14:23] <ikonia> ses1984: how are you trying to mount the root file system ?
[14:23] <vnc786> ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[14:23] <mudkip908> the command youre entering
[14:23] <ikonia> vnc786: manually try to start it ?
[14:23] <ikonia> vnc786: look in the syslog
[14:24] <ffio> when doing sudo apt-get update, getting error, GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com raring release: The following signatures couldn'tbe verified because the public key is not available: no_pubkey 1623g3729124d1ds
[14:24] <azazel91> does anybody know how to install madwifi drivers for my card
[14:24] <reisio> azazel91: which card?
[14:24] <ses1984> boot live cd > rescue broken system > bunch of menus about keyboards hostname timezone >
[14:24] <vnc786> ikonia: syslog , nothing  there
[14:25] <ikonia> vnc786: did you try to start it ?
[14:25] <ses1984> device to use as root /dev/sda1 > execute a shell there > continue > execute a shell there > continue > repeat
[14:25] <azazel91> astheros AR928X im on ubuntu 12.04
[14:25] <auronandace> ses1984: that isn't a command
[14:25] <ses1984> im not executing a command
[14:26] <ikonia> ses1984: ahh you're booting the recovery shell from the livecd ?
[14:26] <vnc786> ikonia: i have now manage to bring it up at boot by putting in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[14:26] <ses1984> yeah
[14:26] <ikonia> ses1984: ok, just boot the livecd into the desktop mode, then mount the disk
[14:26] <ikonia> ses1984: lets keep this simple
[14:26] <ikonia> vnc786: ??? that's nothing to do with dhcp
[14:27] <soman> I need to record all windows of one app under xubuntu. What app can help me?
[14:27] <reisio> soman: how many windows has it got?
[14:27] <soman> at this time 2
[14:28] <vnc786> ikonia: its seems strange i havent done anything for last couple of months it use to get start when i use to start my ubuntu 12.04 64 bit but for last 2 days there seems problem
[14:28] <reisio> soman: might be simpler to capture the entire screen and crop out the two parts you want afterward
[14:28] <reisio> s
[14:29] <azazel91> i tried installing this but it failed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1240781
[14:29] <ikonia> vnc786: I'm really sorry, but I'm not following what you are saying, I thought you where asking why your dhcp server was not starting
[14:29] <soman> reisio: what app use for capturing and cutting videos?
[14:30] <tlopez> what program to use to change the format of a video file?
[14:30] <reisio> tlopez: ffmpeg
[14:30] <reisio> soman: ffmpeg
[14:30] <reisio> :D
[14:30] <vnc786> ikonia: there is no problem with dhcp working the issue is only with service start|stop
[14:31] <vnc786> after boot
[14:31] <ikonia> vnc786: my apologies, I thought it was the dhcp server failing to start from your first message
[14:31] <reisio> soman: ffmpeg -f x11grab, look it up; it's a little more complicated than some other options, but much more reliable
[14:31] <vnc786> thanks for your time no problem
[14:32] <reisio> soman: also ffmpeg for cropping
[14:32] <reisio> 200 people in #ffmpeg
[14:32] <lgc> Hi. When I boot normally to my Ubuntu I get a black screen. If I boot in recovery mode it boots well. What gives?
[14:33] <reisio> !nomodeset
[14:33] <HoNgOuRu> hi
[14:33] <reisio> hi
[14:34] <lgc> Thanks, reisio. Let me look into it.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> reisio, when I try to use ffmpeg , I get the "app is depracated " message
[14:35] <reisio> BluesKaj: right, that's because some clown switched Ubuntu from ffmpeg to libav
[14:35] <reisio> BluesKaj: libav probably wants you to use 'avconv' or something
[14:35] <reisio> still mostly the same command
[14:36] <gregor_> how come when i type in sudo password root to get acces to the root it comes up with erroers ?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> reisio, exactly , I prefer ffmpeg ...worked well for yrs
[14:36] <ffio> can we run services in chroot ?
[14:38] <reisio> ffio: most likely
[14:39] <reisio> gregor_: it's passwd, not password
[14:39] <reisio> gregor_: and by using sudo you become root, so just 'sudo passwd'
[14:39] <gregor_> ah ty
[14:39] <ffio> reisio: :)
[14:40] <ffio> reisio: why is it not possible to run all the service which we can run in normal ubuntu installation ?
[14:40] <ffio> any specific reasons ?
[14:40] <reisio> ffio: it should be, technically
[14:40] <reisio> you may not have mounted all the things your chroot requires to work perfectly
[14:40] <reisio> but nor should it matter that much, why do you need to do it from a chroot
[14:41] <ffio> reisio: i was just curious and wanted to know.
[14:43] <guest5171> !help
[14:43] <guest5171> !ping
[14:44] <reisio> ffio: wanted to know what?
[14:45] <guest5171> !botsnack
[14:46] <azazel91> i tried following this to and it hasnt worked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[14:47] <ffio> reisio: wehter all the services can be run in chroot or not.
[14:47] <azazel91> says blacklist command not found
[14:47] <ffio> s/wehter/wether
[14:48] <reisio> ffio: they can, technically
[14:48] <reisio> but you don't really need to do it
[14:48] <ffio> reisio: i will not do it as you said.
[14:49] <reisio> :p
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> !cookie > guest5171
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> !help > guest5171
[14:49] <ffio> reisio: :)
[14:49] <guest5171> !botsnack > wilee-nilee
[14:50] <wilee-nilee> guest5171, I don't get private messages it is off and post a question if needed and don't abuse the bit or channel.
[14:50] <wilee-nilee> bot*
[14:50] <reisio> soman: here's how to capture specific windows if you want to try it; you could technically run two commands at once for two separate windows
[14:50] <reisio> soman: http://qubodup.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/record-a-windowed-game-in-linux-using-ffmpeg-in-three-simple-steps/
[14:51] <reisio> soman: there's a chance it'd be annoyingly process intensive, though, cropping a full screen capture is probably still saner
[14:51] <designbybeck_> Has anyone install Ubuntu on an Acer w3-810 Tablet?
[14:52] <wilee-nilee> !pol | designbybeck
[14:52] <wilee-nilee> !poll
[14:54] <wilee-nilee> designbybeck_ I see nothing on the web on this but most likely quite possible.
[14:55] <xeon> Has anyone used CDMA on Ubunu?
[14:55] <xeon> my china Telecom CDMA works fine on Linux mint but doesn't work on my Ubuntu....
[14:55] <designbybeck_> yeah wilee-nilee, I haven't found anything specifically about that model, that is why i was asking. I'm meeting up with a coworker later who wants to learn about Linux and Open Source Software. We're installing it on a Laptop, but he also had this Tablet he didn't mind playing with
[14:56] <wilee-nilee> designbybeck_, A uefi install feels comfy for you?
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> designbybeck, here is the UF thread I generally give the uefi people, there is a wiki the bot has to. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[14:58] <wilee-nilee> probably no biggie for you just passing info
[14:58] <designbybeck_> i've only did it once
[14:58] <Ohga> hi. how does the restart/shutdown commands work with the runscripts? does any of them skip running them or are they always run?
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> designbybeck_, Have not had the pleasure/pain myself, never been into S&M. ;)
[14:59] <Ohga> and can they be interrupted if they take a long time (whatever long means)?
[15:00] <thinkjson> How do you add shortcuts to the launcher on the left? I seem to be missing some really basic concept here. :)
[15:00] <Lope> okay good news is W7 still boots :)
[15:00] <reisio> thinkjson: open something, right click on it
[15:00] <reisio> Lope: wonderful news :p
[15:00] <thinkjson> nice. got it.
[15:01] <thinkjson> reisio++
[15:01] <reisio> thinkjson: :)
[15:01] <wilee-nilee> Lope, Shoot linux fails again. ;)
[15:01] <thinkjson> hmm. relaunching it from that same icon fails.
[15:03] <thinkjson> flashes for a bit, then exits without displaying program.
[15:04] <thinkjson> specifically Sublime Text 2
[15:04] <reisio> thinkjson: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sublime%20text%22%20%22unity%22%20%22desktop%20file%22
[15:04] <reisio> http://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3457
[15:04] <Left_Turn> hey how do u make a network connection to your router on ubuntu
[15:05] <thinkjson> "unity" seems to be the missing piece of information. is that what the launcher is called?
[15:05] <Left_Turn> i have wireless and ethernet
[15:05] <reisio> Left_Turn: click on the wifi icon, type in password
[15:06] <reisio> thinkjson: well "unity launcher" shall we say
[15:06] <Left_Turn> hm ok
[15:06] <thinkjson> I've been out of the Ubuntu fold for two years. still catching up. :)
[15:07] <riply> welcome back thinkjson
[15:07] <reisio> thinkjson: Unity is a handful of compizy things that run on top of GNOME 3
[15:07] <riply> you've missed out on a lot
[15:07] <thinkjson> thanks :)
[15:07] <thinkjson> I know
[15:07] <reisio> the bar on the left is just the most visible part
[15:07] <thinkjson> like... Canonical is building a PHONE!?
[15:07] <wilee-nilee> reisio, lol you beat me to it the commissary is on the right.
[15:09]  * [G]Script52 ist jetzt AWAY (grund: auto-AWAY nach 180 min idle-zeit)
[15:09] <reisio> thinkjson: might be
[15:09] <reisio> thinkjson: commissioning a phone
[15:10] <thinkjson> well, right
[15:10] <joshu> anyone know how to override the indicators, e.g. not loading all of them from this /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.unity-greeter.gschema.xml
[15:10] <thinkjson> but if the man can fly to the moon, I'm pretty sure he can get this done amiright?
[15:10] <reisio> wilee-nilee: :p
[15:10] <thinkjson> or space at least
[15:10] <thinkjson> was it ISS?
[15:10] <reisio> thinkjson: it's hard to say, they're asking for money to get it done
[15:10] <thinkjson> been away too long to remember the lore
[15:11] <Ohga> how does the restart/shutdown commands work with the runscripts? does any of them skip running them or are they always run? also, can they be interrupted if they take a long time (whatever long means)?
[15:11] <joshu> if I change the array to ['session', 'datetime', 'power', 'application'] it won't load lightdm
[15:11] <reisio> instead of just liquidating 6% of Shuttleworth's assets
[15:11] <ramsrambo>  kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[15:12] <reisio> I s'pose the point of having a for-profit company is to make money, though
[15:12] <reisio> not lose it :p
[15:12] <reisio> but the point of selling something is also to make money (spend money to make it, etc.)
[15:13] <ramsrambo> Johnny_Linux :  kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[15:13] <hadifarnoud> silly question, how can I mv all files with force overwrite?
[15:14] <reisio> hadifarnoud: should be mv's default
[15:14] <azazel91> anybody know what blacklist is
[15:14] <hadifarnoud> reisio: thanks. I was wondering if that's the case
[15:15] <thinkjson> yay! I have a working shortcut!
[15:15] <reisio> azazel91: could be referring to disabling the auto-loading of kernel modules
[15:16] <ramsrambo> hi! I am trying to boot 12.10 and I am getting  kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[15:16] <azazel91> so how do i disabel ath9k and ath5k
[15:16] <samijam> I am running Ubuntu 13.04, sometimes my wifi is very slow.  On speedtest.net I am getting 0.05 Mbps download with 5.5 Mbps upload.  On a windows laptop on same wifi I get 22 Mbps download with 5.5 Mbps upload
[15:17] <IdleOne> !blacklist
[15:17] <IdleOne> azazel91: ^
[15:17] <cr3> hi folks, I reinstalled my system and the part that is supposed to reinstall previously installed packages failed. how can I troubleshoot that?
[15:18] <dstevens> ramsrambo: Is this a dual-boot system?
[15:18] <dstevens> ok bye ramsrambo
[15:18] <blazemore> cr3: Could you re-state that?
[15:19] <azazel91> i got a problem it isnt there
[15:19] <azazel91> is it cause im running a older version of ubuntu
[15:19] <hadifarnoud> reisio: mv: cannot move `css' to `/var/www/vhosts/lifewideeducation.co.uk/css': Directory not empty
[15:19] <robertzaccour> It seems I've got a bug here
[15:19] <Mihasi> Hi all. I´m having some trouble installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (well, in fact I´m helping someone else who´se having trouble). The install went fine, but on boot I only gets a limited grub shell. Booting from there on doesn´t work: it finds and reads the kernel (using the vmlinuz command), but when I try to load the initrd image it says it cannot read the file. However, I opened the file in a live CD session and it seems to be alright... Does anyone have a
[15:20] <cr3> blazemore: I had a system with 12.04, it got corrupted, so I re-installed 12.04 on top of the same system. at the end of the installation process, I was pleasantly surprised that ubuntu was trying to reinstall previously installed packages. however, that failed so I'd like to figure out why.
[15:20] <robertzaccour> I tried to do the Ubuntu minimal install and it keeps failing to install grub. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
[15:20] <reisio> hadifarnoud: well that's a directory, isn't it
[15:20] <hadifarnoud> yeah
[15:20] <blazemore> cr3: I don't recognise that scenario, sorry :\
[15:20] <reisio> hadifarnoud: first answer here looks good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/269775/mv-directory-not-empty
[15:21] <cr3> blazemore: yeah, I can't find anything about it online either, so it doesn't seem to be a common scenario which also probably explains why it doesn't work :)
[15:21] <Mandalord> robertzaccour: how ddid you fail?
[15:21] <cr3> if something is not used regularly, it accumulates bitrot and should be removed
[15:21] <robertzaccour> Mandalord: it said failed to install grub
[15:22] <azazel91> so blacklist is a serpate compartment
[15:23] <robertzaccour> Mandalord: I used a usb flash to install. Is that where I went wrong?
[15:23] <infrared_> Since the usual /etc/X11/xorg.conf was removed, how does one set options (like drivers) for input devices on 13.04?
[15:23] <Mandalord> robertzaccour: not really. I use an flash disk too
[15:23] <robertzaccour> Mandalord: is this a bug?
[15:24] <Mandalord> may you type sudo fdisk -l and post the result on  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:25] <blazemore> cr3: I'd recommend doing a completely fresh install, including formatting the target partition, so no files from the old installation remain
[15:25] <robertzaccour> Mandalord: me type sudo fdisk?
[15:25] <Mandalord> robertzaccour: yes sir. sudo fdisk -l
[15:25] <adamk> infrared_: Create a conf file...  It can be /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[15:26] <robertzaccour> Mandalord: it failed to install, I'm now in live session
[15:26] <Mandalord> robertzaccour: in live session yes.
[15:27] <robertzaccour> Mandalord: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933117/
[15:27] <cr3> blazemore: I wanted to recover as much as possible though, ubuntu really made a nice effort but probably just failed for some inane reason that I could probably fix if I could find
[15:27] <the_cyber_guy> i am using ubuntu 12.04 and trying to configure mail server with postfix. i have just moved to new domain name and configured the mail server accordingly. i tried sending mail using sendmail cli as root and it worked fine but the mail received has the old domain name like root@old.domain. i can't figure it out. any help would be appreciated.
[15:27] <cr3> blazemore: I need to reboot but I'll continue looking, cheerio!
[15:27] <infrared_> adamk: Ok, thanks
[15:27] <ikonia> robertzaccour: what command did you use to install grub ?
[15:28] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I just let it do its thing
[15:28] <ikonia> robertzaccour: what is the error you get trying to use grub ?
[15:28] <robertzaccour> ikonia: failed to install is all I remember
[15:28] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I don't recall any message
[15:29] <ikonia> robertzaccour: I suggest either a.) trying to get more detail on the failure b.) manually installing grub
[15:29] <robertzaccour> ikonia: how do I manually install grub?
[15:29] <azazel91> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[15:29] <ikonia> !grub2 | robertzaccour
[15:30] <azazel91> when i type in echo ath_hak >> ect/modules it says permission denied
[15:30] <mudkip908> what's ath_hak?
[15:30] <azazel91> opps ath_hal
[15:31] <Ohga> azazel91: typing as root?
[15:31] <mudkip908> azazel91: "echo ath_hal | sudo tee /etc/modules"
[15:31] <Pici> mudkip908: sudo tee -a
[15:32] <mudkip908> yes oops
[15:32] <robertzaccour> ikonia: how do I install boot repair? It says not found.
[15:32] <antikythera> the_cyber_guy: Have you edited the /etc/mailname file?
[15:32] <mudkip908> or just open /etc/modules with nano as root
[15:32] <gethenian> is there any way to install on a non-pae cpu?
[15:32] <ikonia> robertzaccour: you can just use a livecd
[15:32] <azazel91> what about echo ath_pci >> /etc/modules
[15:32] <Mandalord> robertzaccour: If the links are too long, just read this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933137/
[15:32] <mudkip908> azazel91: you'd need to execute that while logged in as root
[15:33] <mudkip908> not with sudo
[15:33] <ikonia> robertzaccour: (such as the one you are on now)
[15:33] <the_cyber_guy> antikythera, i think i need to run dpkg-reconfigure postfix. i have just edited main.cf and restarted postfix. that might be the cause of the problem
[15:33] <azazel91> im a newbie how would i do that
[15:33] <mudkip908> azazel91: sudo su
[15:33] <mudkip908> then your command
[15:33] <antikythera> the_cyber_guy: all right.
[15:34] <azazel91> can you just give me the whole thing
[15:34] <Ohga> could be wrong, but just sudo -c "<the command>" ?
[15:34] <gethenian> is there any way to install on a non-pae cpu?
[15:35] <mudkip908> Ohga: yeah that would work
[15:35] <azazel91> echo ath_pci >> /etc/modules
[15:35] <Ohga> simplicity whenever possible..
[15:35] <mudkip908> su -c not sudo -c
[15:36] <Ohga> mudkip908: ah yeah, you're correct
[15:36] <reisio> gethenian: cpu? or kernel?
[15:37] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I followed the instructions and here's where I'm stuck http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5933153/
[15:37] <gethenian> reisio - the kernel on the install iso demands my cpu have "pae", but it doesn't so the install disc doesn't boot
[15:37] <ikonia> robertzaccour: you don't mount swap
[15:38] <reisio> gethenian: really
[15:38] <reisio> gethenian: is it a 64-bit image?
[15:38] <crankharder> does anyone know if start-stop-daemon(init.d) can monitor multiple processes from one script.  I basically want to launch the same daemon multiple times with each instance having different ENV variables sent to it.
[15:38] <crankharder> and starting/stopping/restarting them all at once would be nice
[15:38] <robertzaccour> ikonia: Ok I'm now confused.
[15:39] <ikonia> robertzaccour: why are you doing a minimal install ?
[15:39] <reisio> crankharder: duplicate the scripts, run a for loop
[15:39] <gethenian> reisio - I am trying to install 32 bit to a "pentium m" which lacks "pae extensions" but only has 2gb ram
[15:39] <crankharder> reisio: yea, specifically trying to avoid maintaining multiple scripts
[15:39] <reisio> gethenian: yeah doesn't really make sense :p
[15:39] <reisio> gethenian: you might try the minimal install image
[15:40] <gethenian> that was the minimal install image
[15:40] <reisio> oh really :p
[15:40] <reisio> you might try some other image :p
[15:40] <reisio> gethenian: mmm
[15:41] <Mandalord> robertzaccour: well that's just a simple guide. In your circumstance, I suggest sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/temp
[15:41] <reisio> gethenian: are you on an OS on the box right now?
[15:41] <robertzaccour> ikonia: Because I want to install Mate desktop without having to remove a bunch of other stuff. Does this info help with my issue?
[15:41] <keithb1> gethenian: use an older version of ubuntu or use the non-pae mini-iso net install
[15:41] <Ohga> are runscripts always run on stoping the system, or does any of the commands (halt, shutdown..) bypass them?
[15:41] <ikonia> robertzaccour: I'll leave your smart mouth to resolve the problem on your own, I was only trying to understand the problem to better advise you as it's clea ryou have no clue what you are doing
[15:41] <gethenian> reisio - no right now I'm using a desktop machine, because the laptop with the pentium m has no OS installed
[15:42] <reisio> gethenian: do you have the laptop model?
[15:42] <gethenian> thinkpad t42
[15:43] <robertzaccour> Mandalord: ikonia http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5933165/
[15:43] <robertzaccour> I dunno if this can be any help.
[15:44] <ikonia> robertzaccour: I wish you good luck in resolving your problem, I'd also suggest looking at "mint" as a distribution if mate is important to you
[15:44] <reisio> gethenian: dunno why they'd require PAE, but I guess you just need an image without it
[15:44] <Mandalord> robertzaccour: it tells smthing about ethernet but not about grub or boot
[15:45] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I prefer the default Mate from thee PPA, and I don't wanna hassle with removing a bunch of stuff.
[15:45] <keithb1> gethenian: read this - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[15:45] <ikonia> robertzaccour: mint's mate is default
[15:45] <robertzaccour> Mandalord: Well network setup was fine, it didn't error until installing grub
[15:45] <ikonia> Mandalord: it actualyl does reference sda1 not being able to mount
[15:46] <Mandalord> ikonia: ah yes, misread it
[15:46] <robertzaccour> ikonia: no, its got a lot of junk added I don't care for, and Mint is kinda buggy anyway
[15:47] <alparada> Hi everyone, Im a new Ubuntu user
[15:47] <ikonia> robertzaccour: it will take you more time to setup a minimal install with your base skill level, than to remove a few packages from ubuntu
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, cinnamon is in the raring repos, if needed
[15:47] <SuperBawlz> Welcome... To the real world...
[15:47] <ikonia> robertzaccour: it's up to you how you proceed
[15:47] <gethenian> reisio - it said "www.webupd8.org not found"
[15:47] <reisio> gethenian: ...what did?
[15:47] <reisio> alparada: hi
[15:47] <alparada> anybody speak spanishhhh??????
[15:48] <saiarcot895> !es | alparada
[15:48] <gethenian> reisio - firefox
[15:48] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: I don't really like cinnamon that much.
[15:48] <Mandalord> robertzaccour: not sure why sda1 cannot be mounted? may you try full install then install mate
[15:48] <reisio> gethenian: ...
[15:48] <reisio> why tell me
[15:48] <alparada> hey gracias por la info
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, Cool, just passing info.
[15:48] <saiarcot895> alparada: you're welcome
[15:48] <holstein> gethenian: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html works fine for me.. try again
[15:51] <gethenian> happened a second time. well, I'd guess the reason why is that firefox passes on the hostname to the dns server, but the dns server didn't find it
[15:51] <noaer> hello guys
[15:51] <holstein> gethenian: you can try a site such as "is it down for everyone"
[15:51] <robertzaccour> ok it says boot successfully repaired http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933175/ I used boot repair just now
[15:51] <reisio> noaer: 'lo
[15:52] <robertzaccour> I'm gonna boot. Might brb. Hope not though :P If not then thanks in advance :)
[15:53] <javierl> hi, doesn anyone knows how to debug a netinstall installation?, the installer stops at downloading the repos index, and the logs don't show anything wrong
[15:53] <noaer> i'm using xubuntu laptop
[15:53] <weblife> I finished a three part tutorial last night on how to get going with Node.js / MongoDB on Ubuntu and then deploy it to cloud services.  Could I get any interested parties to review it for fixes / ideas on how to improve it?  https://github.com/TheMindCompany/mongonode-app/blob/master/tutorial.pdf
[15:54] <noaer> should I install tlp?
[15:54] <C^^> Anyone have success running Ubuntu with the Surface RT?
[15:54] <C^^> Or do I need to throw this thing in the trash
[15:55] <gethenian> it appears www.webupd8.org is only unknown on the dns server I use
[15:57] <huckleberry> hi, what's the best way to find files in commandline?
[15:59] <Dark_light> huckleberry: find /path/to/directory -depth -iname "name of file" or install mlocate run update-db and then just do locate name of file
[16:00] <ramkam> hi guys ... got a question on vnc ... and the raspi
[16:00] <goleldar> hello
[16:00] <ramkam> trying to make this work out: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=50897&p=393825
[16:00] <ramkam> but it's showing me a screen that is different from the HDMI output
[16:00] <magdur> guys are there anyone here prepare #keygenmusic ?
[16:01] <ikonia> ramkam: this is ubuntu support
[16:01] <goleldar> how would I move all children files and folders from a current directory into a new folder in the same directory
[16:01] <ramkam> ikonia: yups, trying to get some help :-)
[16:01] <goleldar> from the terminal?
[16:01] <ikonia> ramkam: you're not using ubuntu though, that guide is not for ubuntu
[16:01] <Mandalord> goleldar: use mv command?
[16:01] <huckleberry> Dark_light: do i have to " the file name, or use ' ?
[16:02] <ramkam> ikonia: yep, i completely agree, but it's likely that someone in this chan knows a bit more than me on the topic,
[16:02] <ikonia> ramkam: this channel doesn't support non-ubuntu issues, sorry
[16:02] <Ohga> goleldar: bash?
[16:02] <magdur> how can i product a keygenmusic ?
[16:03] <goleldar> it involves mv
[16:03] <Ohga> goleldar: are you using bash?
[16:03] <goleldar> ya
[16:03] <Ohga> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91740/how-to-move-all-files-in-current-folder-to-subfolder
[16:03] <Pici> magdur: A what?
[16:03] <Ohga> or in short "mv !(subdirname) subdirname"
[16:04] <goleldar> wow thanks
[16:04] <Ohga> and possibly "shopt -s extglob" first
[16:04] <ramkam> ikonia: ok, let's suppose it's ubuntu. can the same user have 2 different displays  ? with which (ubuntu) command can i list them ?
[16:04] <magdur> a keygen music
[16:04] <ikonia> ramkam: lets not - please use the correct support channel.
[16:04] <Pici> magdur: I have no idea what that is but it doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Ubuntu.
[16:05] <ramkam> ikonia: that's very helpfull, thank you.
[16:06] <ikonia> ramkam: no problem, good luck
[16:07] <amcsi_work> hi
[16:07] <huckleberry> Dark_light: thank you
[16:08] <amcsi_work> does memtest86 that comes with ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32-bit work with 8GB of RAM?
[16:08] <amcsi_work> (which is for more than 32-bit)
[16:08] <ikonia> amcsi_work: yes, it will
[16:09]  * firecooler ( NoNameScript 4.22 :: by greeny & mute :: www.nnscript.com :: www.esnation.com )
[16:09] <ikonia> firecooler: please disable that script
[16:09] <iFail> amcsi_work: es portugues? ou brasileiro?
[16:09] <firecooler> oops wrong click
[16:09] <firecooler> sorry
[16:09] <a5m0> my touchpoint was working on my thinkpad yesterday but suddenly it's not today, has anyone noticed similar behaviour or have a suggestion how i might fix it?
[16:09] <joshu> anyone know why I can't use gsettings to remove some unity-greeter indicators with gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter indicators 'session,date time,power,application' ?
[16:11] <amcsi_work> ikonia, thanks
[16:15] <kingjohn> !list
[16:30] <magdur> hacılar ben iftara gidiyorum
[16:30] <magdur> görüşmek üzere
[16:31] <magdur> "oruç tut sıhhat bul" a binaen "iftar et rahatla"
[16:31] <huckleberry> !turk
[16:31] <Ohga> magdur: wrong channel?
[16:31] <huckleberry> !turkish
[16:31] <huckleberry> my best guess :P
[16:32] <DJones> huckleberry: Google translate would agree with Turkish
[16:32] <huckleberry> DJones: well then - it is settled :)
[16:33] <magdur> ı m hungry man
[16:33] <W4sp> uname -a
[16:33] <huckleberry> magdur: you are from hungary?
[16:34] <magdur> not hungary hungary hungry
[16:34] <magdur> without food
[16:35]  * Ohga hands magdur a sandwish
[16:35] <huckleberry> magdur: ok :)
[16:35] <ariel`> how do i connect to the internet using the commandline
[16:38] <magdur> ubuntu la aslında imdi trolleyesim var ama yapmayacam bak valla yapmayacam kalkıp gidecem imdi
[16:38] <crankharder> whats that cmd that updates which runtimes an init script starts on?
[16:38] <Ohga> magdur: seriously.. english in here..
[16:40] <DJones> magdur: This channel is English only
[16:41] <kostkon> !tr | magdur
[16:41] <kostkon> hope that's the right language
[16:42] <tmmunq> google detects it as turkish
[16:42] <kostkon> ;)
[16:42] <magdur> guys how can i learn to my kernel version ?
[16:42] <tmmunq> uname -a
[16:42] <magdur> yes correct is was turkish ü
[16:43] <magdur> thank to
[16:45] <magdur> guys how can i connect webchat.freedone.net for #ubuntu it is possible ?
[16:46] <magdur> using from smartphone ?
[16:46] <ariel`> anyone know how i could connect to the internet using the commanlinm
[16:46] <magdur> actually i want to keep in touch with you :)
[16:48] <theadmin> magdur: Err, smartphones have plenty of native IRC clients
[16:48] <theadmin> magdur: On Android, try AndroIRC
[16:49] <nuclearrambo> yo mama
[16:57] <ses1984> i'm trying to boot into recovery mode and get into a root shell prompt, and it's mounting root as read only. is that normal? i need to change some things to fix the system
[16:57] <ses1984> /etc/mtab says it's mounted rw, remount ro
[16:59] <rypervenche> ses1984: Yes, you need to remount it as rw. "mount -o remount,rw /" without the quotes.
[17:03] <pixelshuck> Hi, I would like to know whether ubuntu BAG meets the Airport cabin baggage measurements
[17:04] <magdur> theadmin thank too much
[17:06] <magdur> theadmin: i can connect #ubuntu here isnt it ?
[17:06] <theadmin> magdur: Sure.
[17:08] <fishcooker> i've ubuntu box on
[17:08] <fishcooker> how to download animefreak.tv rather than watch online?
[17:10] <Ohga> *blink* um... ask animefreak.tv?
[17:11] <sahil__> hello people
[17:11] <michi1802> hi
[17:11] <pixelshuck> Hi, I would like to know whether ubuntu BAG meets the Airport cabin baggage measurements
[17:12] <sahil__> well i have changed my graphics card,from amd to nvdia... my screen keeps flickering.how to deal with it?
[17:13] <ses1984> i tried to follow a guide on how to change a user name, and i think i have everything working properly in command line,
[17:13] <holstein> pixelshuck: those requirements will be per airline.. what "bag" in particular? are you having issues finding he specific measurements? this is the support channel for the OS, so i would contact whoever is creating the "bag"
[17:13] <ses1984> but when booting to the gui user log in screen, it still shows the old user name. using 12.04
[17:13] <maggdur> Yes guys finally i connect wwith mobile
[17:13] <holstein> ses1984: i would make a new user,a nd migrate
[17:13] <maggdur> ,<3
[17:14] <ses1984> i have tried editing /etc/lightdm/users.conf, to IncludeAll= true , Include = newusername
[17:14] <holstein> ses1984: i would change the name back, test. create new user, migrate files from /home as needed
[17:14] <sahil__> my os is ubuntu 12.04
[17:15] <holstein> sahil__: you'll want to remove the custom driver you installed
[17:15] <holstein> !ati | sahil__
[17:15] <ses1984> holstein: well its kinda too late for that
[17:15] <philsturgeon> I've added user "logstash" into group "adm" with "usermod -a -G adm logstash". The file is read only for the adm group, and when I sudo su logstash I can read the file. BUT, when I restart the logstash_agent service, which runs as the "logstash" when I grep ps aux | grep logstash, but the process cannot read these files.
[17:15] <holstein> ses1984: its actually not, as far as i see it
[17:15] <sahil__> i have not installed any propietory stuff...
[17:16] <philsturgeon> so logstash IS in the group, but a process under that user cannot read a file. huh?
[17:16] <holstein> sahil__: you likely did install the nvidia driver from a popup, and dont konw what that means
[17:16] <holstein> sahil__: you would have seen soemthing about installing a driver, and you clicked through.. thus creating the issue you have
[17:16] <ses1984> if i saw it your way then i wouldn't have to come here and ask for help
[17:17] <holstein> sahil__: you can view the link i gave, and see what packages you have installed, and remove them, as needed
[17:17] <sahil__> ok...anyway how to check if i have a ati specific driver installed?
[17:17] <holstein> ses1984: i would just state the issue you are having as clearly as possible, and a volunteer will likely help
[17:17] <holstein> sahil__: a specific nvidia drver
[17:18] <maggdur> Hacilar yeni gesiad nerde
[17:18] <ses1984> ok, i want to change the default user that appears when you get to the gui login screen, using version 12.04
[17:18] <holstein> sahil__: the link i gave will show you how to look for the driver modules you have or have not installed
[17:18] <abc6293> Hello. I have Nvidia GT540M GPU. How do I install drivers for the same in ubuntu 12.10 LTS?
[17:18] <sahil__> ok...
[17:19] <holstein> ses1984: i would try the user/accounts gui
[17:19] <holstein> !nvidia | abc6293
[17:20] <sahil__> how to check what driver is currently installed?
[17:21] <abc6293> I'm a noob in linux world. How do I get myself started?
[17:21] <holstein> ses1984: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username looks like how i would try
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> abc6293, Just using it helps, it is a gigantic amount of information overall discover what you want to know and research it.
[17:22] <ironfoot495> Hello evertone can someone show me how to get mysql and apache2 to boot at startup? 10.04 ubuntu
[17:22] <holstein> sahil__: you can open a package manager and see what packages are installed from the link i gave you.. you can assume one is installed, and use the remove command.. you can put the ati device back in, boot with no issues and remove the driver
[17:23] <sahil__> ok..
[17:23] <holstein> ironfoot495: they dont "boot".. they would run as services.. which should just be set up when installing
[17:23] <holstein> !lamp | ironfoot495
[17:23] <abc6293> By the way, what exactly is KDE? I did some research but didn't understand it completely.
[17:24] <holstein> !kde
[17:24] <ariel`> so nobody knows how to connect to the internet using the commandline?
[17:24] <reisio> yes, except for the part that's a for-profit company, it's an open community :p
[17:24] <vishnu_> KDE is a window manager
[17:24] <holstein> abc6293: unity is the "desktop environment" of main ubuntu.. kubuntu uses KDE.. its basically the desktop look and feel
[17:24] <reisio> vishnu_: a DE, actually :)
[17:24] <Fah> Anyone here using the latest ubuntu on a '10 macbook pro?
[17:25] <reisio> Fah: probably someone doers
[17:25] <reisio> and also does
[17:25] <holstein> !macbook | Fah
[17:25] <Michael72> I have the beta version of Firefox. If the extension stops working due to the fact that the transition to the latest version of the beta. How to do in this case? Where to report a problem?
[17:25] <Fah> Yeah, been down that path. Wondering about native uefi mode & bumblebee
[17:26] <reisio> Michael72: _the_ extension?
[17:26] <Michael72> yes, plugin, add-on. jslib
[17:26] <sahil__> i have another problem.i have a micromax 3g dongle,it doesnot get detected...even network manager doesnot shows device(that is "any device" is written)
[17:27] <abc6293> So KDE is just like a theme or something? It doesn't effect the basic framework of linux?
[17:27] <reisio> Michael72: irc://irc.mozilla.org/firefox http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
[17:27] <sahil__> kde is desktop environment
[17:27] <vishnu_> yaa desktop enviroment
[17:27] <reisio> abc6293: K-DE
[17:28] <reisio> abc6293: it doesn't A-ffect what you can do with GNU/Linux so much, no
[17:28] <BluesKaj> ariel`,  ethernet?  are you at tty , if so then you're probl;y already connected
[17:28] <Michael72> sahil__: I prefer to send the AT command to the modem via minicom
[17:28] <netlar> Do I need to install blueman to get bluetooth to work?
[17:29] <reisio> netlar: what distro?
[17:29] <netlar> Ubuntu 13.04
[17:29] <sahil__> is minicom a script?
[17:29] <reisio> netlar: probably comes with a bluetooth manager
[17:29] <holstein> Fah: bumblebee is in a PPA
[17:29] <holstein> !uefi | Fah
[17:29] <Fah> thanks
[17:29] <n80> hi all, i have two windows stuck open on my desktop from plugging in-unplugging-plugging back in my iphone. they will not close, one is asking what action to perform when plugged in, and one says it was unable to mount because it was already mounted. any idea how to kill these. how can i identify the pid at least?
[17:29] <holstein> !kde > abc6293
[17:29] <netlar> reisio: I typed in blueman, one entry comes up, blueman
[17:29] <Michael72> sahil__: sudo minicom -s <== this is utility
[17:30] <reisio> netlar: right, because blueman is a thinkg and you searching explicitly for it
[17:30] <holstein> abc6293: KDE is kde.. you'll need to read about it.. or try kubuntu live
[17:30] <reisio> netlar: you probably already have some GNOME bluetooth GUI installed
[17:30] <holstein> !kubuntu > abc6293
[17:30] <bertogatti> n80: open terminal, type xkill, click on the window
[17:30] <sahil__> okk...lets try..btw what is AT command?? O.o
[17:30] <netlar> reisio: Sorry, typed it in synapic and it shows up , No installed
[17:30] <reisio> netlar: synaptic?
[17:30] <netlar> reisio: Yes
[17:31] <n80> bertogatti: boom! thanks so much!
[17:31] <abc6293> So KDE is just about how I want my desktop environment to look, or does it has it's own set of features (new features)? I'll definitely try it.
[17:31] <bertogatti> n80: welcome
[17:31] <n80> bertogatti: wish i had known of that before :P
[17:31] <reisio> abc6293: KDE is more comfortable to people coming from Windows, IMO
[17:31] <netlar> reisio: Sorry for my horrible spelling
[17:32] <reisio> abc6293: if your mind is flexible and you have the time or inclination, you can make almost any DE or window manager + panel work like Windows or Mac OS
[17:32] <holstein> abc6293: KDE is a desktop environment that you are welcome to read about via http://www.kde.org/screenshots/ or the other links i gave.. or by running kubuntu live, or another KDE idstro
[17:32] <holstein> distro*
[17:32] <Michael72> sahil__: my native language is Russian, it is hard for me to explain, but I'll try to find something on the Internet in English for you
[17:32] <rollinbay> xfce is lightweight,speedy, and good looking once you get it properly setup
[17:33] <sahil__> ah...thanx :)
[17:33] <abc6293> Ok sure thanks a lot! :)
[17:33] <chillblaine> #funfile.org
[17:33] <vishnu_> y do'nt anyone talikong about GNOME
[17:34] <vishnu_> it too great than xfce and
[17:34] <Michael72> sahil__: http://www.techytalk.info/disable-virtual-cd-rom-drive-with-built-in-software-on-huawei-and-zte-gsm-modem-devices/
[17:34] <Ohga> I want to double check that run scripts are always run on shutdown/reboot
[17:34] <Ohga> is it so?
[17:35] <michi1802> hi i have a problem with xawtv. i found with search no stations, any idea ?
[17:35] <holstein> vishnu_: because this is not a "talk about it" channel.. you can try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. also, no "official" ubuntu variants ship with gnome.. though, ubuntu is doing what it always did.. supply the latest verision of gnome
[17:35] <kevin> Does anyone here know how to compile php with pcntl in this forum ??
[17:35] <ironfoot495> Hello I was just here and I did follow the advice to install Lamp but I still get the same resp[onse. Should I remove all file to my php  and start all over or what???
[17:35] <Michael72> sahil__: And I'm not using NetworkManager. There is another way to configure the connection
[17:36] <abc6293> I'm preparing myself for Google Summer of Code. What can be some interesting projects which I can seek? Not to mention, I'm a noob. Have to give a lot of hardwork.
[17:36] <holstein> kevin: i would follow the readme's at the site.. if you compile on your own, you are kind of one your own.. you can try a PPA
[17:36] <ian_> whats Google Summer of Code?
[17:36] <holstein> Michael72: there are many network managers.. wicd is popular
[17:36] <reisio> ironfoot495: what's the problem?
[17:37] <fribcell> hi.  does anyone know how I can change boot options on a persistent usb install? its terribly frustrating to have to catch the f6 everyt ime! thanks
[17:37] <vishnu_> ya what is it!
[17:37] <ironfoot495> reisio: Icant get mysql and apache to boot at start-up?
[17:37] <holstein> ian_: its pretty much OT here.. https://developers.google.com/open-source/soc/
[17:37] <reisio> it's a way for google to spend a fraction of their profits on finding new talent/technology
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> fribcell, You may have to look on the web for that it is possible.
[17:37] <bertogatti> fribcell: change your BIOS options?
[17:37] <ironfoot495> apach2
[17:37] <vishnu_> is it open for... student tooo
[17:37] <reisio> ironfoot495: is that a question?
[17:37] <reisio> it's only open to students, IIRC
[17:38] <reisio> you can't just be some guy :p
[17:38] <ian_> thanks holstein
[17:38] <ironfoot495> reisio: Well I'm asking how do I get mysql and apache2 to start-up at bootup?
[17:38] <kevin> #holstein - sorry not that technical what's ppa
[17:38] <holstein> !ppa | kevin
[17:39] <kevin> thanks
[17:39] <ironfoot495> They don't boot someone said to install Lamp and tht's what I did!
[17:39] <holstein> ironfoot495: in ubuntu, you install them and they start.. please see my link
[17:39] <holstein> !lamp > ironfoot495
[17:39] <abc6293> I'm 20, student. I'm preparing myself for Google Summer of Code. What can be some interesting projects which I can seek?
[17:40] <holstein> !ot | abc6293
[17:40] <holstein> abc6293: also, maybe try a programming channel
[17:41] <abc6293> Oh sure. Thanks!
[17:41] <reisio> abc6293: /msg alis list *gsoc*
[17:41] <kostkon> abc6293, btw "Ubuntu will not be participating in Google Summer of Code 2013"
[17:41] <kostkon> abc6293, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2013
[17:42] <vishnu_> connecting internet through dongle is quite quirky in linux
[17:42] <reisio> vishnu_: nah
[17:42] <holstein> vishnu_: depends on the specific device
[17:42] <vishnu_> any simple application!
[17:42] <vishnu_> heuwaii too!
[17:43] <holstein> vishnu_: doesnt matter.. the chipset matters
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> kostkon, That is fud, can you not read, "Ubuntu applied as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013. Unfortunately, our application was not accepted, but we hope to participate again if the program continues for another year."
[17:43] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, that wasn't my intention
[17:43] <vishnu_> thanks holstein,,, what u use to connect internet
[17:43] <holstein> vishnu_: many devices
[17:44] <vishnu_> now
[17:44] <holstein> vishnu_: typically, the operating systems are not responsible for driver support.. in linux, the linux kernel can do that, and usually does support what it can
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> I don't care what ubuntu does but misinformation helps no one.
[17:44] <holstein> vishnu_: you can always ask the vendor for support
[17:44] <vishnu_> ohhh
[17:46] <Shadowandlight> semi off topic.... what should the privileges look like for a mysql user who only needs to read/write access to there specific database?
[17:47] <holstein> Shadowandlight: i think, as a rule, as limited as possible
[17:47] <Shadowandlight> http://i.imgur.com/CBLdvMA.png
[17:47] <holstein> Shadowandlight: try the server channel... or a mysql or security specific channel
[17:47] <Shadowandlight> ok
[17:49] <vishnu_> does recent kernel suites dongle
[17:49] <reisio> vishnu_: yes
[17:49] <holstein> vishnu_: depends on the chipset.. try them from live CD's
[17:49] <vishnu_> thanx
[17:50] <holstein> vishnu_: or, again, ask the creator of the dongle for linux support
[17:51] <vishnu_> thanx
[17:54] <deroot> As you know, Unity (Ubuntu Desktop) has a special feature that is called "HUD". This feature enables you to  access menu options of current software by pressing Alt key and typing a key word. Very useful. Is there a similar case in Gnome3?
[17:55] <bazhang> deroot, check the gnome-shell extensions site
[17:56] <runsoniarun> i just upgraded from Ubuntu Desktop 12 to 13, and tried to update the Flash plugin.  But Adobe no longer providing updates?  Anyone know if this is a security concern or can point me to an article around it?
[17:56] <reisio> runsoniarun: if and when it's a real security concern, Ubuntu will stop making it "easy" to install
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> runsoniarun, The ubuntu repo has a adobe-plugin
[17:57] <deroot> bazhang: ... search for "hud" on the site? let me check
[17:57] <reisio> and IIRC it's not getting _developed_ but it is being patched for security
[17:57] <bazhang> deroot, not hud, but something that has similar properties
[17:57] <reisio> for nsplugin, anyways
[17:58] <runsoniarun> thanks reisio, just needed assurance, it's all good.
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> deroot, couple of ap[ searchers I use synapse myself
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> app*
[18:00] <deroot> bazhang: checked; nothing for Gnome 3.8!
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> 3.8 is a PPA and not supported
[18:01] <deroot> wilee-nilee: I've never use Synapse. r u sure it can search a software menu?
[18:01] <bazhang> deroot, well thats a PPA, and seriously inadvisable to use in any case
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> deroot, what is you definition of software menu, I ave not used hud.
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> have*
[18:02] <deroot> bazhang: but it's working well for me!
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> synapse works like the dash if it is installed you can find it with it, if not just a dependency
[18:06] <deroot> wilee-nilee: HUD: for example, your typing in libreoffice and you need to change format. 1st way: click on Format menu > click on Page option
[18:06] <deroot> 2nd way: press Alt > type "page"
[18:07] <crankharder> anyone know how to stop all running instances of an upstart-enabled process?
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> deroot, Ah, thats what I suspected, synapse is just a app finder so not applicable.
[18:10] <robertzaccour> Ok I now have pure mate installed on top of Ubuntu minimal
[18:10] <robertzaccour> How do I install gdebi package installer with the terminal?
[18:10] <deroot> crankharder: ps -o pid,sess,cmd afx | grep -A20 "PROCESS-NAME$"
[18:10] <mudkip908> robertzaccour,  sudo apt-get install gdebi?
[18:10] <robertzaccour> I mean, what command do I input to install gdebi package installer?
[18:11] <daftykins> robertzaccour: sudo apt-get install gdebi
[18:11] <robertzaccour> mudkip908: Thanks. What's with the ?
[18:11] <mudkip908> accidentally pressed it
[18:11] <daftykins> he's a tad surprised as it was an easy question
[18:11] <vedic> I have installed pgbouncer using dpkg. When I try to start it (/etc/init.d/pgbouncer start) there is no output. Even I don't see the log file created into /var/log/postgres/pgbouncer.log . How to know what is the problem?
[18:11] <biohazard88> :2
[18:12] <robertzaccour> daftykins: I got it thanks. This pure Mate on top of minimal install leaves some things out haha :P but at least I get to choose pretty much anything software wise instead of having it chosen for me :)
[18:12] <daftykins> robertzaccour: was that to save disk space or to run faster on old hardware?
[18:12] <deroot> vedic: first, you should explain (shortly) what is pgbouncer:P
[18:13] <vedic> deroot: postgres connection pooling tool. Google it the best. But consider it as any other way which when started as service, not doing anything
[18:13] <joshu> how do you remove hibernate and suspend from the top menu bar in unity-greeter?
[18:14] <reisio> joshu: probably an option in the config
[18:14] <reisio> joshu: dpkg -L packageName | grep etc
[18:14] <robertzaccour> Uh..Gdebi isn't recognizint my password...
[18:14] <robertzaccour> this is so weird
[18:14] <robertzaccour> daftykins: I just wanted pure Mate install withouth removing another DE and stuff that comes with it.
[18:15] <reisio> robertzaccour: might need gksudo or something
[18:15] <deroot> vedic: sudo service pgbouncer status
[18:15] <deroot> sudo service pgbouncer start
[18:15] <joshu> reisio I tried but get not results
[18:16] <reisio> joshu: what'd you try?
[18:16] <joshu> reisio what you sent me, dpkg -L unity-greeter | grep shutdown
[18:16] <joshu> reisio what you sent me, dpkg -L unity-greeter | grep suspend
[18:16] <joshu> reisio what you sent me, dpkg -L unity-greeter | grep hibernate
[18:16] <joshu> nothing
[18:16] <vedic> deroot: I think you have not read the issue I mentioned. I know its not running. "status" and ps -aux doesn't show it. "start" doesn't give any output. No creation of log file
[18:16] <nantou> I have edited my /etc/environment file so it proxifies all traffic. If I write a # at the beginning of each line, will it be commented and thus, inoperative?
[18:16] <robertzaccour> reisio: but gdebi is gui
[18:17] <robertzaccour> reisio: I'm confused :-/
[18:17] <mumpitzel> nantou: yes. and only programs which honor HTTP_PROXY will actually be proxied
[18:18] <n-iCe> hello guys
[18:18] <mumpitzel> hello baby
[18:18] <jakesahir> hello budy
[18:18] <tubbo> is ethtool supposed to be bundled with ubuntu (12.x)?
[18:18] <tmmunq> a better solution would be to set up a transparent proxy
[18:19] <mumpitzel> tubbo: yes: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ethtool&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any
[18:19] <n-iCe> why do poeple use ubuntu instead of xubuntu or lubuntu ?
[18:19] <Sk1Special> because I only heard of those after i installed ubuntu and went looking for help.
[18:20] <tubbo> well it doesn't work for me
[18:20] <daftykins> n-iCe: they have this crazy thing called... choice
[18:20] <mumpitzel> !doesn't work | tubbo
[18:20] <robertzaccour> Anyone know why gdebi wouldn't be accepting the correct password?
[18:20] <n-iCe> daftykins: is not supposed to work better than ubuntu? I mean lubuntu at least? faster?
[18:20] <tubbo> i get "The program 'ethtool' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:"
[18:20] <goddard> how can i print all the UUIDs?
[18:20] <tubbo> yeah i would've said that faster if my stupid shell would copy shit properly
[18:20] <daftykins> n-iCe: well it depends what you want doesn't it
[18:20] <mudkip908> goddard: Of your disks? ls /dev/disk/by-uuid
[18:20] <daftykins> tubbo: language please
[18:21] <bazhang> !blkid | goddard
[18:21] <jakesahir> what was the new features in ubuntu 13.04?
[18:21] <tubbo> i don't get why i don't have this command..
[18:22] <anonee> if I right-click a contact in empathy's contact list, there's an option to view contact information. upon the first click you'll be presented with an option to use local address book, and if you happen to choose it, it won't pop again, how to reset this so I can choose the online contact information instead?
[18:22] <mumpitzel> tubbo: dpkg -l ethtool | tail -1    what is the output?
[18:22] <mumpitzel> tubbo: most likely you don't cause you haven't installed it
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, there are package list for every desktop and the versions on the web look for yourself.
[18:23] <jakesahir> ok
[18:23] <tubbo> ugh
[18:23] <tubbo> i guess so but the chef recipes here would indicate that i *should* have it >:(
[18:23] <tubbo> whatever
[18:23] <tubbo> i installed it
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> tubbo, more drama please. ;(
[18:24] <tubbo> lol sorry wilee-nilee
[18:24] <jakesahir> i have problem in my ubuntu 12.10 when i try to install any software from terminal using sudo apt-get install its just waiting at 0% not doing any thing and i am not be able to install any thing in my ubuntu
[18:24] <robertzaccour> ok gdebi works fine form the terminal, but in gui it won't accept my password
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, pastebin a sudo apt-get update all the text.
[18:24] <joshu> any othe suggestions on how to remove suspend and hibernate from the top menu bar cog menu item?
[18:25] <jakesahir> ok
[18:25] <daftykins> jakesahir: sounds like you have APT mirror issues. is that the PC you're online from right now?
[18:25] <chilli-salad> I'm looking at my ufw firewall log to make sure my server is protected, but noticed something strange and want to know if it's ok. I have my router forwarding a port to the server, but only allowing one IP address on that port. My ufw log shows multiple addresses attempting but getting "UFW BLOCK". But one time one address got "UFW AUDIT". Does that mean ufw allowed access?
[18:26] <jakesahir> wilee-nilee:http://pastebin.com/Ke66LdBR
[18:26] <daftykins> chilli-salad: let me google that for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143371/what-do-ufws-audit-log-entries-mean
[18:27] <jakesahir> ya i am online @daftykins
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:29] <jakesahir> wilee-nilee:http://pastebin.com/gWcBp99z
[18:29] <sahil__> hi
[18:29] <sahil__> how to update grub entires?
[18:29] <anonee> okay gonna ask my question again, please, anyone? the right-click menu of empathy's contact list contains "contact information" item, upon the first click you'll have to choose between "online" and "use local address book", and the local address book will pop every time, what if I want to reset this option or use the online profile instead?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, Hmm, eveything is there are you proxied?
[18:30] <jakesahir> yes i am in my college network ,wilee-nilee
[18:30] <robertzaccour> Anyone know why gdebi wouldn't be accepting the correct password?
[18:30] <jakesahir> cyberoam proxy server ,wilee-nilee
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, That is probably the problem, out of my fix area though.
[18:31] <robertzaccour> gdebi works fine form the terminal, but in gui it won't accept my password
[18:31] <sahil__> any help ? :)
[18:31] <X-Sleepy-X> !grub | sahil__
[18:31] <sahil__> my grub hav few dead links....
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> sahil__, Have you run sudo update-grub lately, and what are dead links?
[18:31] <kumarnew> hi jakesahir, i am also in campus proxy i configured in my lappy...
[18:32] <jakesahir> but our admin says that there is problem in ur os...?wilee-nilee
[18:32] <jakesahir> how can i configure?kumarnew
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, I can't really say with any definite answer, sounds like a admin who does not know linux though.
[18:33] <mumpitzel> jakesahir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[18:33] <sahil__> i used to have multiple OS but those os are manualy rermoved(HDD partition merged/formated)
[18:33] <daftykins> hah i had the same link 2 seconds later ^
[18:33]  * daftykins high-fives mumpitzel 
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> admins are supposed to help not blame in this situation
[18:34] <vcryan> Hi fellow Ubuntu users -- it this an appropriate place to ask about my Xorg/unity system which I have mangled so much a can no longer login to my account?  :)
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> !who | sahil__
[18:34] <jakesahir> yes but our admin i think don't know about linux..
[18:34] <tozen> vcryan: can u can get in recovery mode?
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, May be when you figure it out show them. ;)
[18:35] <jakesahir> i don't have any proxy server address or port..mumpitzel
[18:35] <guest18172> canonical should add a system restore feature to ubuntu
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> guest18172, Tons of ways of doing it, linux is about knowing what you are doing.
[18:35] <jakesahir> ya i try my best ... wilee-nilee thanks
[18:36] <guest18172> yeah, but ubuntu is about making linux such that you don't have to know what you are doing :p
[18:36] <X-Sleepy-X> sahil__: If you read about grub in the previous links you will find something about os-prober...
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> guest18172, hardly, that is a projection
[18:36] <sahil__> _<wilee-nilee> i think i got it it was perhaps sudo update grub :command,all i wanted to regenerate the entries...anyway, how to remove old kernals safely
[18:36] <tozen> vcryan: if u r sure u tipe in correct login and password then try to delete ~/.Xauthority file and relogin after
[18:37] <kumarnew> jakesahir, you must have it configured in your web browser, if you are using internet behind proxy..?
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> sahil__, The grub-update fixed it?
[18:37] <rollinbay> guest18172: haha, setup.sh scripts are basically our system restore. back that data up to the cloud!
[18:37] <sahil__> yes :)
[18:37] <guest18172> I want a gui interface based system restore :)
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> guest18172  don't hesitate to publish constructive ideas in a blog
[18:37] <Quest> hi
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> sahil__, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[18:37] <frewsxcv> Anyone have personal websites to show off?
[18:37] <X-Sleepy-X> sahil__: if you run uname -r then you'll see which kernel you're on right now
[18:38] <jakesahir> but how can i find address and port???kumarnew
[18:38] <Quest> I am using 64 bit ubuntu with 4 gb ram, but "free g" says 3 gb is there. why is that?
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !ot | frewsxcv
[18:38] <marianne> ugh... running 12.04 64 bit just installed 4gb of RAM and it's only seeing 2GBs. Is there anything I can do so all the installed ram is used?
[18:38] <X-Sleepy-X> sahil__: then you would need to uninstall previous versions of the linux-header-... and linux-image-...
 thnx :), well i have multiple entries like "previous linux versions" i want to remove those...
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> guest18172, You are welcome to write one and submit it, you would have many thanks. ;)
[18:39] <jakesahir> can anyone know which port ubuntu uses for downloading software that may be blocked by our admin?? wilee-nilee
[18:39] <tozen> sahil__: ubuntu-tweak can help you ;)
[18:39]  * Quest waits
3.2.0-38 pae...
[18:39] <sahil__> i gota few x.x.32
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> sahil__, I use a number of ways to remove kernels the easiest is an app called ubuntu-tweak, a 3rd party, it has a janotor that does great claning including configs.
[18:40] <netlar> I just installed Blueman, and I still cannot pair up my bluetooth speakers
[18:40] <jose> hey guys! let's say I set up an ad-hoc network and want a windows client to connect. When the windows person connects, it does not get the network info (such as ip address, default subnet/gateway) automatically, I need to set it up manually. Any ideas on how to get that done?
[18:40] <guest18172> I could draw the graphics for it in ms paint
[18:40] <guest18172> :)
[18:40] <netlar> Is there something that I need to set to get this to work?
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> *janitor
[18:40] <kumarnew> jakesahir, apt-get uses http or ftp as given in sources.list file, i think
[18:40] <jose> netlar: have you tried pairing them?
[18:40] <X-Sleepy-X> sahil__: I usually just look at which version i'm running and then use the TAB key to find which old versions to remove in this command: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-image-(TAB KEY HERE) linux-headers-(TAB KEY HERE)
[18:41] <netlar> jose: yes
last time ubuntu tweaked messed my sysytem..well i was on Natty that time
[18:41] <jose> netlar: does it give any error or something?
[18:41] <kumarnew> jakesahir, so if you are able to connect to internet using your browser, then there is no problem, you can download from repositories
[18:41] <netlar> jose: They just do not show up
[18:41] <jakesahir> ok than how our admin blocked this because my net is working smoothly??kumarnew
[18:41] <marianne> Quest: looks like we have similar problems
[18:41] <jose> netlar: don't know what may be happening, sorry
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> sahil__, Never had that problem myself, I suppose it depends on how and what you use it for, you can do a kernel search and purge the ones you want to.
[18:42] <netlar> jose: It is ok, no one else does ;)
 so other then 3.3.38,watever comes will be removed right/
[18:42] <sahil__> ?
[18:42] <Quest> marianne,  i found  a solution
[18:42] <kumarnew> jakesahir, you need to know your campus proxy server name/address and port number and if applicable proxy username/password
[18:42] <marianne> Quest: share please!
[18:42] <Quest> marianne,  what command do you give to check ram, and how muchram do you have?
[18:42] <netlar> I thought installing blueman might help
[18:42] <hhhh> Hi all
[18:43] <kumarnew> jakesahir, you must have configured it in your browser check your browser preferences or options something...
[18:43] <marianne> Quest: to check - 'free -m' just installed 4GBs
[18:43] <Quest> marianne,  1. make sure you have 64 bith 2. do a free -m instead of free -g .      free -g rounds up the ram.
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> sahil__, might try this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
 is it possible to change the reso of plymouth?
[18:43] <marianne> Quest: yeah I'm 64 bit
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> sahil__, Not something I would know.
[18:43] <sahil__> resolution*
[18:43] <Quest> marianne,  see what is under "total"
[18:44] <marianne> Quest: showing 1938 under total
[18:44] <Quest> marianne,  hm then I wont be able to help further.
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, For the record beyond figuring out you are proxied I'm lost. ;)
[18:44] <Quest> marianne,  make sure its shown 4 g in bios before asking anyone else
[18:45] <tozen> marianne: how do u know u got 4Gigs?
[18:45]  * wilee-nilee only knows what I have broken
[18:45] <X-Sleepy-X> sahil__: this is how i would do it: 1. run: "uname -r" it gives me "3.8.0-27-generic". 2. run: "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-headers-3.8.0-26 linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic" as i would see the 3.8.0-26 version if i autocompleted the command with the TAB-key.
[18:45] <marianne> tozen: just bought it and installed it about 2 hours ago
ok thnx :)
[18:46] <louisdk> Hi
[18:46] <marianne> tozen: it's what the package said it should be.... did I get hosed?
[18:46] <Lustvania> a
[18:46] <sahil__> tab is used for autocomplete...learnt a new thing ;)
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> sahil__, You can tab complete nicks it might be easier
[18:46] <X-Sleepy-X> sahil__: but you might want to keep the one of the old kernels
[18:46] <tozen> marianne: i would redoot with choosing memtest option, them u can see what's wrong
[18:46] <Lustvania> hello all... <<< nubie here ^_^
[18:47] <tozen> *then
[18:47] <X-Sleepy-X> sahil__: just in case the latest isn't working properly
[18:47] <sahil__> ok...
[18:47] <jakesahir> i tried that but when i set proxy my internet is not working??wilee-nilee
[18:47] <marianne> thanks guys I'll do that...back in a while
[18:47] <huckleberry> Lustvania: hi, aren't we all noobs in some way *philosophical sigh*
[18:48] <tozen> marianne: perhaps one of them is faulty
[18:48] <reisio> huckleberry: yes *master philosophical sigh*
[18:48] <reisio> :p
[18:48] <Lustvania> huckleberry_: i mean.. i really nubie ^_^ <<< getting the first know
[18:48] <X-Sleepy-X> sahil__: also, as you'll see when using tab, there are more files, like 4 of them for each version but you only need to specify those i wrote down since the autoremove command will take care of the rest.
[18:48] <voila> hellos
[18:49] <jakesahir> i tried that but when i set proxy my internet is not working??_wilee-nilee
[18:49] <Lustvania> wanna learn bout ubuntu server
[18:49] <voila> any good messenger for lan ??
[18:49] <X-Sleepy-X> voila: pidgin and the bonjour protocol
[18:49] <huckleberry> reisio: *sighs about all this philosophical sighing*
[18:49] <Lustvania> did anyone know good website to learn it?
[18:49] <voila> X-Sleepy-X, work on Lan ??
[18:49] <anonee> i am newbie
[18:49] <Lustvania> did anyone know good website to learn it? << bout ubuntu server
[18:49] <X-Sleepy-X> voila: i use it at work
[18:50] <anonee> sorry that was the room
[18:50] <jakesahir> i tried that but when i set proxy my internet is not working?_kumarnew
[18:50] <joshu> Is this the right place to create new policy kit rules /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d I'm going to try and disable suspend and hibernate this way
[18:50] <huckleberry> Lustvania: hm... do you have an aim with that server?
[18:50] <huckleberry> Lustvania: just learn it, with out aim won't work - it will be boring
[18:50] <voila> okies . thanks
[18:51] <huckleberry> Lustvania: you need a cool project :D
[18:51] <Lustvania> yup
[18:51] <X-Sleepy-X> Lustvania: help.ubuntu.com may give you some information but as huckleberry said you need a goal
[18:51] <huckleberry> Lustvania: do you have seomthing you want to do? any special kind of server? you could set up an irc server :P
[18:52] <huckleberry> Lustvania: or mumble (that is some cind of teamspeak - but free. very good if you are playing call of duty or LOL with friends)
[18:52] <huckleberry> Lustvania: do you play computer games?
[18:52] <louisdk> I've a desktop with an Core 2 Duo CPU at 2Ghz and 2 GB ram. Recently it has just been freezing on me. keyboard and mouse stops reacting and sometimes the screen goes blank. Tested HDD, CPU and RAm, found no errors. Upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 and now it goes freezes when I log in. No problems with live cds. If I SSH to the machine I can see that two processes called Xorg are using 100% and 88% of the CPU and I can't kill them. Any
[18:52] <louisdk> one that have and idea of that's wrong. I assume the best thing is just make a fresh install.
[18:53] <Lustvania> -_-
[18:53] <Lustvania> -_-
[18:53] <Lustvania> yup
[18:53] <FloodBot1> Lustvania: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:53] <huckleberry> Lustvania: that games do you play?
[18:53] <anonee> louisdk it sounds to me like a VGA memory problem
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> jakesahir, Honestly anything beyond discovering at least that you have a sources list and guessing a proxy I have no idea.
[18:54] <Lustvania> i play dragon nest
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> I would help if I had a confident fix. jakesahir
[18:54] <jakesahir> ok thanks _wilee-nilee ...bye
[18:54] <jakesahir> gud night
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> night
[18:55] <A1Recon> The power/stand by icon in the top right corner is red right now. When I click it .... I see the "Online Accounts" is in red. Any idea why??
[18:55] <reisio> huckleberry: I'm winded
[18:56] <huckleberry> Lustvania: do you use teamspeak for it?
[18:56] <anonee> wilee-nilee could u please help me with this one? in the right-click menu of empathy's contact list, there's "information" item, upon the first click you get 2 options: local address book or online profile, I clicked on the -empty- local address book and I wanna reset this option so I can select the online profile. can I?
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> louisdk, I vote fresh install, I never upgrade.
[18:56] <Lustvania> teamspeak?
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> anonee, Never used empathy.
[18:57] <Lustvania> <<< i'm new too in mirc
[18:57] <Lustvania> 1st run
[18:57] <huckleberry> Lustvania: it is like skype, but for groups. teamspeak is often used be ego shooter players so that they can speak with each other while they play
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> Lustvania  mirc is for windows, are you in windows now?
[18:58] <Lustvania> yup
[18:58] <Lustvania> win 7
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Lustvania, There is #ubuntu-server
[18:58] <anonee> Okay any experienced user to check this for me please? empathy is the default im client for ubuntu...
[18:58] <Morg0th> hello, i'm trying to put music files on an iPod from Ubuntu 13.04, but if i run banshee or rhythmbox when the ipod is connected the app freezes (whether it is banshee or rhythbox). any ideas please?
[18:58] <reisio> anonee: check what out?
[18:58] <Lustvania> cant enter #ubuntu-server
[18:58] <huckleberry> Lustvania: ok, anyway. belive me: i want to make a server will not cut it. you will set one up - and then? it will be boring to death. trust me. i tried it :P find something you really want to do and then see if ubuntu server can help you with that
[18:58] <reisio> Morg0th: disconnect it first?
[18:58] <Lustvania> dont know why -_-
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> Lustvania  start with linux for the desktop, to get used to it, then try server
[18:59] <Lustvania> ^_^ ok all
[18:59] <Lustvania> thx for the advice
[18:59] <Morg0th> reisio: doesn't work.. even if i connect it once, try to run banshee and disconnect the ipod, banshee won't ever run unless i reboot
[18:59] <varlogtim> hello all!
[18:59] <Lustvania> i'll try desktop 1st
[18:59] <reisio> Morg0th: run it from a terminal and look at the output
[18:59] <reisio> varlogtim: 'lo
[19:00] <varlogtim> Am I able to register my nick on this server?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> anonee, You want to be careful here asking for help when not addressed is a no, no, people answer when they know, and some might not if you abuse the rules.
[19:00] <X-Sleepy-X> !register | varlogtim
[19:03] <Lustvania> 1 question everyone :
[19:03] <Lustvania> i'ts wise? if we run ubuntu server from vmware ?
[19:04] <Lustvania> i mean full run like we run from PC
[19:04] <varlogtim> Lustvania, Are you asking if there are any known issues to running ubuntu server as a guest machine on vmware?
[19:06] <reisio> Lustvania: not as wise as running it from metal
[19:06] <ariel`> can anybody help me network manager doesnt wanna show up
[19:06] <Lustvania> yes bro
[19:06] <Lustvania> -_-
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> !who > Lustvania
[19:06] <Shadowandlight> whats the command to make user "me" take ownership of a directory so that i can write to it via ftp?... im trying "sudo chmod 777 /var/www/smf" but its not working
[19:07] <X-Sleepy-X> Lustvania: It all depends on the scenario...
[19:07] <jose> hey guys! let's say I set up an ad-hoc network and want a windows client to connect. When the windows person connects, it does not get the network info (such as ip address, default subnet/gateway) automatically, I need to set it up manually. Any ideas on how to get that automatically done?
[19:07] <usr13> ariel`: Are you sure it is running?
[19:07] <varlogtim> ariel: pkill -9 nm-applet && nm-applet &
[19:07] <X-Sleepy-X> !chown | Shadowandlight
[19:07] <varlogtim> Shadowandlight: chown user /var/www/smf
[19:08] <Shadowandlight> sudo chmod 777 -R /var/www worked
[19:08] <ariel`> it aint running i cant connect my laptop to the internet
[19:08] <Shadowandlight> is that ok to use? sudo chmod 777 -R /var/www
[19:08] <usr13> jose: Ad-hoc connections are done manually, but, if it is always going to connect the same way, you can set it up to do so.
[19:08] <Pici> Shadowandlight: I wouldn't.
[19:08] <jose> usr13: have a clue on how to?
[19:08] <varlogtim> Shadowandlight: that grants read/write/execute permissions to everyone on that folder.
[19:08] <usr13> jose: By manually, I mean that you dont have a dhcp server involved in ad-hoc connections.
[19:08] <huckleberry> Shadowandlight: you shouldn't do that
[19:09] <Shadowandlight> i want to limit it to "me"
[19:09] <Shadowandlight> so use chown "user" /var/www ?
[19:09] <jose> usr13: oh, didn't know about the DHCP part. will check and see what I can do. Thanks a bunch!
[19:09] <usr13> jose: I suppose the easiest way is to set up a script. You caould just do it in /etc/rc.local
[19:09] <huckleberry> Shadowandlight: usually, you make an own user for the webserver - that's what i heard to be best practice
[19:10] <huckleberry> Shadowandlight: will the server be accessbile from internet?
[19:10] <varlogtim> Shadowandlight: Ideally you should make an FTP user and run "chown -R ftpuser /var/www/sfw
[19:10] <usr13> jose: What ever commands you use to set it up just place in the /etc/rc.local file.
[19:10] <Shadowandlight> ok.. yes it will be internet accessible eventually varlogtim & huckleberry
[19:10] <_kaizda> Ubuntu Sucks!
[19:10] <jose> usr13: so, if I set up a DHCP server on my machine will people be able to connect and automatically get an IP address and the other configs?
[19:10] <Shadowandlight> so i used sudo chown eveserver -R /var/www
[19:10] <Shadowandlight> "eveserver" is the user
[19:11] <hal14450> Shadowandlight, is there any particular reason you want to use FTP?
[19:11] <usr13> Shadowandlight: A normal user is ok. (That's the way I do it, and I have the files served from the users /home/)
[19:11] <Shadowandlight> for SMF to change permissions on the file
[19:11] <X-Sleepy-X> _kaizda: Would you care to elaborate?
[19:11] <aaron_> i messed up removing Desktop Environents how can i remove them all and install only the default ones that came with ubuntu 12.04
[19:11] <usr13> Shadowandlight: To me, it is simplier and easier that way.
[19:11] <Shadowandlight> after SMF installs i think i can turn FTP off
[19:12] <varlogtim> Shadowandlight: This site has pretty decent tutorials: http://www.howtoforge.com/howtos/ftp
[19:12] <_kaizda> X-Sleepe-X: <checking dict>
[19:13] <usr13> jose: I don't think you can do that with ad-hoc connections, (because ad-hoc connections are normally just one-to-one).
[19:13] <aaron_> window managers are *** and the system is lagging as hell
[19:13] <huckleberry> aaron_: aaron_ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntuprecise
[19:13] <_kaizda> X_Sleepe_X: it is nice though
[19:13] <aaron_> huckleberry, yeah the thing is i see the DE ubuntu and gnome
[19:14] <huckleberry> aaron_: so?
[19:14] <usr13> jose: But to answer your question, yes, if you set up a DHCP server on your machine, yes, others will be able to connect and automatically receilve IP addresses and all necessary configurations for network connections.
[19:14] <aaron_> huckleberry, and i had different shells and windows managers
[19:14] <aaron_> huckleberry, but its lagging
[19:14] <jose> usr13: that's basically it, thank you! :)
[19:14] <aaron_> huckleberry, and the windows are blinking sometimes
[19:14] <usr13> Ok
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, What have you done in detail please, and what is the end goal?
[19:15] <vidarne> if you have 2 network cards how can you set what card shal be defult card ?
[19:15] <usr13> jose: But beware, you should only have one DHCP server per network, (or subnet).
[19:15] <huckleberry> vidarne: there is no default card
[19:15] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i removed some desktop environments xubuntu,xfce,openbox etc and now i want to use the default DE that came with 12.04
[19:15] <jose> usr13: how is so?
[19:15] <hal14450> vidarne, yes
[19:16] <usr13> jose: You mean why only one DHPC server?
[19:16] <gordonjcp> jose: what might happen if you had two DHCP servers responding to requests?
[19:16] <huckleberry> vidarne: you connect a network cable and that's it :) do you have a specific problem?
[19:16] <jose> oh, I got you now
[19:16] <hal14450> vidarne, my bad you're asking how
[19:16] <usr13> jose: Why don't you tell us exactly what it is you want to do, and maybe we can give you more specific advise.
[19:16] <vidarne> i got a problem bow as i have not been using my other lan cards and temspeak server works fine, but now when i activated the other one it uses lan ip from econd card so the nat from firewall is not right
[19:17] <hal14450> it depends on the setup really there a re a few ways to do it
[19:17] <daftykins> vidarne: teamspeak's config will likely have a way to choose which IP it listens on
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, Desktops have to be removed in meta lists go to the psycho cats website and find the correct list, put it on a gedit, then run it. Since you have partially removed stuff it will error, you then remove the listed errors from the gedit and rinse and repeat till it removes all
[19:18] <jose> usr13: so I'll be at home with 15 people, and I want them to connect to my ad-hoc network (my laptop) and get files from a webserver that is already set up. I don't want to do it via my LAN because I don't want to give them my password. But, the problem arises when they try to connect and have to manually set up the IP config to be able to successfully connect
[19:18] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, also i installed the gnome DE with sudo apt-get install gnome
[19:18] <usr13> vidarne: Change  your network configuration so that your network interfaces use proper IP addresses.
[19:18] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, the things are ***
[19:18] <usr13> jose: You have a wireless router.  Right?
[19:18] <jose> usr13: I do
[19:18] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, also the thing is that i don't get you
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, If this " ***" is a blocked swear word stop that.
[19:18] <huckleberry> aaron_: just before you start reomving all kind of stuff- do you use wiki for internet connection, or lan cable?
[19:18] <crankharder> does upstart have a general config?
[19:19] <usr13> jose: What is the make and model?
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, You might just reinstall then.
[19:19] <huckleberry> aaron_: wifi i wanted to say
[19:19] <aaron_> i don't try a word i am just writing ***
[19:19] <vidarne> i need to have 2 network card now on same subnet 192.168.1.0  lancard 1 192.168.1.105 and lan card2 192.168.1.106 as i need to route trafick from ip 192.168.1.106 to a vpn tun
[19:19] <aaron_> the stars
[19:19] <jose> usr13: it's a TP-Link router, don't know the model. The point is I don't want to give them access to the router, that's why I'm making the ad-hoc
[19:19] <aaron_> huckleberry, lan cable
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, drama for me gets a free ignore.
[19:19] <usr13> jose: What I'm getting at is that what you are wanting to do can be done though the Wireless Router, (especially with dd-wrt).
[19:20] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, this is for sure not a drama i will definitely fix it
[19:20] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i just like joking around sometimes
[19:20] <jose> usr13: but when I move I won't have the same files
[19:20] <huckleberry> aaron_: ok :) - because sometimes when you start to remove all kind of stuff you suddenly may remove the wifi stuff - and that's bad. but if ouy have cable - no problem
[19:20] <usr13> jose: Find out if your router is dd-wrt compatable, if it is, install it and you will have the capabilities you want.
[19:21] <jose> ok, thanks!
[19:21] <usr13> jose: Files? What files?
[19:21] <jose> usr13: the ones I'll be sharing on my webserver :)
[19:21] <huckleberry> aaron_: aaron_ what you can do is to remove gnome
[19:21] <huckleberry> aaron_: and the do "apt-get autoremove"
[19:22] <aaron_> huckleberry, but i need 1 DE right?
[19:22] <huckleberry> aaron_: autoremove will remove packeages that were installed because they were needed for an other package
[19:22] <huckleberry> aaron_: no
[19:22] <aaron_> huckleberry, i don't get it
[19:22] <usr13> jose: That's ok..   What you need is a wifi router that has the capabilites for segregating network connections.
[19:23] <huckleberry> aaron_: if you remove all the X stuff (X = grphic server) you will have command line only - that is the very minimal you can get. the you install the DE you like again, and you're good
[19:23] <jose> usr13: got it. Thanks!
[19:23] <aaron_> huckleberry, i am confused i also install the gnome shell
[19:23] <huckleberry> aaron_: ok, let us clarify things: you want to go back to normal, right?
[19:23] <usr13> jose: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Tutorials
[19:24] <aaron_> huckleberry, yes
[19:25] <vidarne> if you ahve 2 lan cards is it only one of them so shall have gatway in /etc/network/interface file ?
[19:26] <huckleberry> aaron_: ok, there are tree ways you can do that. 1) reinstall - the easy way, but you won't learn anything and there is no pain in it, so it is not fun either :P 2) start to remove package by package until you have what you want - this might take some time 3) throw away all DEs - everthing. you will end up with command line. then you type "sudo apt-get install the-desktop-you-want" and you're set
[19:27] <aaron_> huckleberry, i will go with number 1
[19:27] <aaron_> :D
[19:27] <huckleberry> aaron_: ok :)
[19:27] <aaron_> huckleberry, i've experienced pain
[19:27] <mudkip908> pain is fun
[19:27] <tmmunq> yeah, you can do a minimal install. best way to go
[19:27] <usr13> vidarne: Please restate your question.
[19:27] <aaron_> i laugh when i pain
[19:27] <aaron_> pain is funny
[19:28] <aaron_> i want to reinstall the gnome DE
[19:28] <huckleberry> aaron_: to be honest
[19:28] <aaron_> how can i do that
[19:28] <huckleberry> aaron_: since you choose to reinstall you have nothing to lose
[19:29] <tmmunq> gnome-shell? good question, whats the meta-package for that?
[19:29] <huckleberry> aaron_: take 30 minutes and reomve all kind of packeges, maybe you are lucky :P
[19:29] <vidarne> when you ahve 2 network card on same subnet 192.168.1.0 is it only one of the cards so shall have set gatways in /etc/networking/interface  or both of them ?
[19:29] <huckleberry> aaron_: so there is at least some fun it ;)
[19:29] <X-Sleepy-X> !nounity
[19:30] <honestly> I have ubuntu 12.04.2 with (as far as I know) normal settings. But one thing in my sources doesn't update, here's a paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933858/. I checked around and couldn't find out how to fix that, none of the things I found seemed to apply. anyone got a tip?
[19:30] <usr13> vidarne: What is your end goal?  (What exactly are you trying to do?)
[19:31] <vidarne> its only for trying to understand bether networking atm, before i start to try seting up one lan card 192.168.1.106 to go throu a vpn (tun0)
[19:33] <usr13> honestly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/940825
[19:33] <daftykins> vidarne: i think NIC bonding would work differently than just having two interfaces on the same network
[19:35] <honestly> usr13: I get a 404, not 406, so I don't think that's it
[19:35] <p0wn3d> NIC bonding has two modes in Linux. failover and active/passive
[19:36] <karoly> Hello world!
[19:36] <guest_01> a-hoy-hoy
[19:37] <usr13> honestly: Can you ping de.archive.ubuntu.com from this computer?
[19:37] <usr13> honestly: ping -c3 de.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <X-Sleepy-X> honestly: try changing de.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <honestly> usr13: yes, it works fine
[19:37] <honestly> There is a Packages.gz where apt is looking for /Packages
[19:38] <nogood> exit
[19:38] <usr13> honestly: As X-Sleepy-X suggests change to main ubuntu archive and try again.
[19:39] <guest_01> anyone know if wayland and mir will continue to support x forwarding. all the answer i found were vague.
[19:39] <usr13> honestly: "Changed to the main Ubuntu repo, then ran 'apt-get update'   (From https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/940825 )
[19:43] <honestly> hmm, that did it
[19:43] <honestly> thanks!
[19:46] <tubbo> is there a way to "give" some user access to `shutdown -h now` the machine?
[19:46] <tubbo> or is that purely a root/sudo-level thing?
[19:46] <genii> tubbo: You could add a specific line in sudoers file just for it
[19:46] <tubbo> ah ok
[19:46] <Pumpkin-> you can give people access to run arbitary commands as arbitary users via sudo config
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> tubbo  command: visudo
[19:47] <motaka2> hello is there any reason to use mint ?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  yes: if you prefer it
[19:47] <Okitain> Hi guys. My touchpad doesn't work after an upgrade and erasing my xorg.conf for technical reasons. I can't find it in lspci/lsusb, and synaptik doesn't find it either. In Mageia that I run in dualboot, it works fine. What can the issue be?
[19:48] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: I use u12.04, it runs slow and I hear strange voices from hard disk, Should I switch to mint?
[19:48] <tubbo> genii: oh yeah, there we go
[19:48] <tubbo> thanks man :)
[19:49] <motaka2> how can I uninstall jedit ?
[19:49] <mumpitze1> apt-get remove jedit. provided you have it installed via apt
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  if you hear strange voices, it's not technical but mental
[19:50] <brandon_> Hiya guys
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  use a live usb stick to try mint, see if you like it more
[19:50] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: how can I uninstall jedit, I want to install the new version
[19:50] <X-Sleepy-X> !mint
[19:50] <mumpitze1> motaka2: how did you install jedit?
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  how you would install any other program, if it's in the repos
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> ah, uninstall
[19:51]  * genii slides tubbo a coffee
[19:51] <timss> Hi. Regarding the compromised forums - would it be possible to get sent the hash/salt to the registered email so I could check which password I used? I haven't logged in for ages so I can't remember/I haven't got my password remembered by Lastpass. If this isn't the right channel please do share a relevant email or so that I could use.
[19:51] <X-Sleepy-X> !uninstall
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> timss, nope
[19:52] <reisio> seriously
[19:52] <motaka2> mumpitze1: sudo apt-get install jedit
[19:52] <motaka2> but I dont know how to remove it
[19:52] <timss> It's frustrating because I have no idea if I used the default generated password or some old (shitty) password..
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  replace install with purge
[19:52] <motaka2> ok thank you
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> !language > tomaw
[19:53] <mumpitze1> motaka2: then you simply apt-get install jedit  to get the new version of this program if a newer one is actually available in the repos. no need to uninstall anything
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> !language > timss
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> sorry tomaw
[19:53] <tomaw> I'll live
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:54]  * ikonia mode +q tomaw@freenode/staff/tomaw
[19:54] <reisio> heh
[19:54]  * X-Sleepy-X smiles to what just happend
[19:55] <guest_01> anyone know why amarok isnt playing when a song is double clicked. goes to the playlist but you gotta hit play
[19:55] <Serpiente> hey, I know that I can run additional scripts on login if I place them in /etc/ssh/sshrc is there a pendant for logout/ disconnect?
[19:55] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: mumpitze1 dont you know why my ubuntu runs slow? my pc is fast on windows
[19:57] <motaka2> whats the best place to install manually downloaded aps ?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  these are some tricks I picked up in this channel http://ubuntuone.com/7D0HdIh1JYCAMwAFds8h1i
[19:58] <ikonia> motaka2: which apps? from where ?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> motaka2, you have checked the repos first before downloading?
[19:58] <jjavaholic> so I have unplugged the Sata External HD and plugged it into a system Sata port and was able to read sata Drive but still can't read via  USB interface External Unit what do I need to check now?
[19:58] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: careful putting /tmp in ram and not setting a limit on the size, it can kill your box
[19:59] <Okitain> jjavaholic: check the output of lsusb and ls /dev/ |grep sd
[19:59] <genii> motaka2: In the /usr/local   hierarchy isn't bad. Like /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin ... and so on
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> jjavaholic, does it show in sudo fdisk -l
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  thank you for the tip
[19:59] <motaka2> ikonia: new version of jedit
[20:00] <ikonia> motaka2: where did you get it from ? what's wrong with the version in the ubuntu repo ?
[20:00] <motaka2> ikonia: I got the jar file from jedit website
[20:00] <jjavaholic> it doesn't show up in fdisk -l
[20:00] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: just appending something like size=128M or size=1G to limit it so it can't eat your ram can be more useful to keep some limits in place,
[20:00] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: try finding it in the repo first by running: apt-cache search jedit
[20:01] <ikonia> motaka2: ok, so it's a jar file, you can put it anywhere you want as it just matters where your CLASSPATH is setup
[20:01] <jjavaholic> lsusb: http://pastebin.com/5LpjDzE4
[20:01] <kostkon> motaka2, its download page offers a debian package. download that and double click on it
[20:01] <motaka2> wilee-nilee: I dont know what a repository is, Once I intalled gedit via sudo apt-get install gedit and it was version 4 and I need version five so I downloaded the jar file from it's website
[20:02] <kostkon> motaka2, gedit or jedit?
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> motaka2, All or most OS call a repository for updates and installs
[20:02] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:03] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: in 13.04 jedit is 5.0 i think
[20:03] <jjavaholic> and ls /dev/ | grep sd results in this: http://pastebin.com/0MD4FUs9
[20:03] <kostkon> motaka2, just download the debian file. easier than using the java based installer
[20:03] <jjavaholic> three partitions on main OS drive. sda
[20:04] <motaka2> kostkon: I cant find the debian file
[20:05] <motaka2> kostkon: jEdit
[20:05] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: I am using 12.04
[20:06] <kostkon> motaka2, here's the file http://sourceforge.net/projects/jedit/files/jedit/5.1.0/jedit_5.1.0_all.deb/download
[20:06] <kostkon> motaka2, from here http://jedit.org/index.php?page=download&platform=unix#option_two
[20:06] <goddard> i am trying to change apache document route for default to /home/goddard/Web/
[20:06] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: what does "apt-cache policy jedit" give you?
[20:06] <goddard> but i am getting 403 error
[20:07] <kostkon> !version jedit
[20:07] <kostkon> :/
[20:07] <nantou> does starting an app with >>>http_proxy=";"<<< render useless the possible edits to /etc/environment ?
[20:07] <kostkon> !find jedit raring
[20:07] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: what should I do next to this?
[20:07] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: what should I do next to this?  http://codepaste.net/e4zk19
[20:07] <motaka2> kostkon: thank you
[20:08] <kostkon> motaka2, np
[20:08] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: run: apt-cache policy jedit" give you?
[20:09] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: if apt-cache policy jedit gives you a version number of 5 then you just need to run sudo apt-get install jedit
[20:09] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: http://codepaste.net/mh91ih
[20:10] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: I see, never mind then.. :)
[20:10] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: thanks any way I learnt something new in this world of linux at least
[20:12] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: I would probably go with option number 2 on this page http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download just in order to recieve updates on jedit through sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:14] <motaka2> kostkon: !version doesnt work
[20:15] <kostkon> motaka2, !version is only for the bot here
[20:15] <kostkon> e.g.
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> !version
[20:15] <kostkon> yeap
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> :)
[20:18] <Serp3nt> .
[20:19] <Serp3nt> any1 there?
[20:19] <gordonjcp> !anyone | Serp3nt
[20:19] <Serp3nt> k fine
[20:19] <Serp3nt> does anybody know how to leave this channel?
[20:20] <gordonjcp> you can't
[20:20] <Serp3nt> :(
[20:20] <hodapp> use /part or /close
[20:20] <gordonjcp> once you've joined the channel it's impossible to leave
[20:20] <hodapp> forgive gordonjcp, sometimes he confuses #ubuntu with #hotelcalifornia
[20:20] <rick33> hi
[20:20] <peyam> hi
[20:21] <rick33> i have xchat-otr installed, how do i use it?
[20:21] <peyam> I dunno
[20:21] <peyam> google
[20:21] <rick33> me neither
[20:21] <rick33> i googled
[20:21] <X-Sleepy-X> preferably with a computer, i'd say
[20:22] <rick33> very useful
[20:22] <motaka2> kostkon: Ah sorry
[20:22] <motaka2> So cant anyone tell me whu my ubuntu is so slow ?
[20:22] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: Thanks for your soloution
[20:22] <motaka2> it sees to be the best
[20:22] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: yw
[20:23] <varlogtim> motaka2: What version?
[20:23] <varlogtim> post results from top -bn1 |head -n 5
[20:23] <varlogtim> motaka: "top -bn1 |head -n 5"
[20:24] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: perhaps you need to install new graphic drivers in order to make it go faster? what graphics card do you have?
[20:25] <varlogtim> Or use LXDE instead of unity
[20:25] <goddard> i tried the userdir module
[20:25] <goddard> i still get error 403
[20:25] <tjbiddle> Hey guys - Not ubuntu specific - But should my program write verbose output to STDERR or STDOUT?
[20:25] <varlogtim> My vote is STDERR
[20:26] <tjbiddle> varlogtim: May I ask why? (I'm fine with either - just want to know for future ref. on the convention)
[20:26] <varlogtim> STDOUT should be for the output of the applications purpose. Verbose logging is additional data that doesn't have anything to do with the purpose of the application.
[20:26] <tjbiddle> varlogtim: Makes perfect sense, thanks :-)
[20:27] <varlogtim> Imagine this... for a real world example...
[20:27] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: yes I think it has something to do with graphics, my graphic card is xfx 9 series
[20:27] <hodapp> stderr is for errors.
[20:27] <hodapp> verbose should be to stdout, and optional.
[20:28] <peterrooney> Logging should be to a file, progress and verbosity should be to stderr.  varlogtim hit the nail on the head.
[20:29] <hodapp> The convention with nearly every program is that stderr is for errors, not for verbose output, and that it's the user's choice, not yours, whether logging is to a file or to stdout.
[20:29] <varlogtim> It is nice to be able to do this: ./script > output_file 2>verbose_data.log
[20:29] <peterrooney> adding a verbosity option should not, for example, change pipeline behaviour.
[20:29] <pbuckley> Anyone running ubuntu 13.10 have an issue with no bass in their audio?
[20:30] <varlogtim> Say you have an application that updates a status file that something else reads from. Say it is in production and you need verbose output but without affecting the output of the script (which will break the status file) --- printing to stderr will give you the option to redirect the output...
[20:31] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: if you run: software-properties-gtk   the go to "Additional Drivers". Do you see a list of drivers to choose from?
[20:31] <varlogtim> Also, lots of apps print to stderr --- ssh for example, (I beleive) prints the password: prompt to stderr
[20:31] <pbuckley> varlogtim: if you are using passwords with ssh, it is an err ;)
[20:31] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: Should I run that in terminal
[20:31] <motaka2> ?
[20:31] <X-Sleepy-X> !13.10 | pbuckley
[20:31] <mudkip908> motaka2: terminal or alt-f2
[20:32] <tjbiddle> Thanks varlogtim, peterrooney, & hodapp :-) I think I'll lean towards stderr - I had heard verbose out put should go to that in the past, but didn't understand why. Much appreciated!
[20:32] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: I got some output in terminal and a window poped up
[20:33] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: Open the tab in that window called "Additional Drivers"
[20:33] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: THERE IS NO THAB WITH THE CAPTION YOU SAID
[20:34] <bekks> motaka2: We can read lowercase too :)
[20:34] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: Sorry, my bad. I forgot that you use 12.04
[20:34] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: that's kind of you to care for my issue
[20:36] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: I can't recall excatly where you find it in 12.04 but perhaps you can run jockey-gtk
[20:37] <randomaussie> i seem to have broken the display drivers for my laptop's own dispolay driver while using an external video card is there a way i can make ubuntu redetect it and auto install the driver for it
[20:38] <antikythera> exit
[20:38] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: try searching in the dash for additional drivers
[20:38] <high_fiver_> randomaussie: Which model of external video card?
[20:38] <motaka2> i ran jokey.. and I see additional drivers
[20:38] <randomaussie> i'm just talking about hte screens...
[20:39] <randomaussie> the built in one wont go above 640x480
[20:40] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: you could try to install the latest version of a display driver from there if there are any display drivers showing...
[20:40] <motaka2> there are some showing and the recommended one hase a green blob on the left
[20:41] <netlar> How rolling releases for Ubuntu been shelved?
[20:41] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: i believe the green blob are for the activated ones
[20:42] <goddard> how can i change the owner of a ssytem link?
[20:42] <ikonia> goddard: system link ?
[20:43] <bekks> goddard: Whats a system link?
[20:43] <iceroot> symlink :)
[20:43] <X-Sleepy-X> !chown | goddard
[20:43] <morganhelocker> symbolic link
[20:43] <bekks> Then the answer is "no".
[20:43] <ikonia> you don't change symlinks
[20:43] <ikonia> you change the target
[20:44] <bekks> Changing the owner of a symlink is pointless, since the permissions are 0777 - always.
[20:44] <syn-ack> yep, the permission of the symlink is meaningless, its the target that matters.
[20:45] <zeest> I opened an application, it didn't show up in the bar in the right(dock? sidebar?) and I minimized the app. Since I can't see it on the sidebar, how do I restore it?
[20:45] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: yes thats it so I have a driver installed and yet it runs slow?
[20:45] <X-Sleepy-X> zeest: Alt+Tab ?
[20:45] <auronandace> zeest: you mean left
[20:45] <zeest> auronandace: Yes, sorry
[20:45] <X-Sleepy-X> that's right...
[20:46] <zeest> X-Sleepy-X: No showing up there either :/
[20:46] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: you probably need to reboot or log out and back in again
[20:48] <X-Sleepy-X> zeest: if you open gnome-system-monitor can you find the program running there?
[20:49] <zeest> X-Sleepy-X: Yes
[20:49] <zeest> X-Sleepy-X: I killed it and opened again, now it is running fine, and is in the sidebar. Thanks
[20:49] <zeest> What is that bar called BTW?
[20:50] <X-Sleepy-X> zeest: :)
[20:50] <syn-ack> the unity dock?
[20:50] <zeest> syn-ack: Probably, thanks
[20:50] <robertzaccour> What's a good network manager for Ubuntu?
[20:50] <bertogatti> hi all, my startup applications as defined in gnome-session-properties don't seem to work (they work in kde and xfce)
[20:50] <bekks> robertzaccour: The already installed Network-Manager.
[20:50] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: Network Manager.
[20:51] <varlogtim> robertzaccour wicd --- I have been using that and love it.
[20:51] <bekks> robertzaccour: Whats wrong with NM for you? :)
[20:51] <varlogtim> I had issues with Network Manager
[20:52] <varlogtim> It was situation on a MacBook Pro
[20:53] <robertzaccour> bekks: I installed Mate on top of Ubuntu minimal install, doesn't appear to be any network apps there by default.
[20:53] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: can you give an example?
[20:53] <bekks> robertzaccour: Just install ubuntu-desktop then.
[20:53] <robertzaccour> bekks: uh no
[20:53] <robertzaccour> network-manager not available?
[20:53] <robertzaccour> I know its installed
[20:53] <bertogatti> ok while running gnome-3, i have the startup applications set to start guake when i log in
[20:54] <ikonia> robertzaccour: this is because you are doing a minimal install
[20:54] <bertogatti> however this doesn't happen in gnome3 but works in other environments
[20:54] <ikonia> robertzaccour: this is why I suggested doing a standard install and removing what you don't need
[20:54] <robertzaccour> ikonia: any recommendations for a network manager?
[20:54] <ikonia> the mate PPA will not have all the dependencies
[20:54] <ikonia> robertzaccour: network-manager is the standard one
[20:54] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I'm learning, I'll feel ahead once I got it all here :)
[20:54] <bekks> robertzaccour: You already asked that and you already got your answers :)
[20:55] <robertzaccour> bekks: And I already said it says not available
[20:55] <ikonia> robertzaccour: you're not really learning though, you're making it hard for yourself
[20:55] <robertzaccour> ikonia: where are all the network dependencies?
[20:55] <ikonia> robertzaccour: what do you mean "where are they" ?
[20:55] <robertzaccour> ikonia: Yes, I'm learning. I've learned a lot today. Who are you to assume what I haven't learned?
[20:56] <robertzaccour> ikonia: you said the dependencies aren't there. Where are they?
[20:56] <ikonia> robertzaccour: because you're asking the same style questions from earlier and hitting the issues I warned you of
[20:56] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: hang on, i got it working but im looking for how i did it
[20:56] <ikonia> robertzaccour: so I can only assume you've not grasped/learnt what I was trying to explain earlier
[20:56] <robertzaccour> ikonia: And I'm learning in the process
[20:56] <bertogatti> S-Sleepy-X: thanks
[20:57] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I have wired internet working just fine, I just need to install an app so I can set up my router.
[20:57] <ikonia> robertzaccour: what has your router got to do with an application ?? it's an external device
[20:57] <bekks> robertzaccour: You dont need any app to setup your router besides a browser to access the web interface,
[20:58] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I just need a network app that will load. recommend any besides network-manager and wicd?
[20:58] <ikonia> robertzaccour: you don't need a network app to fix your router
[20:58] <sideone> im trying to find a string of *cnn.com/????/* can anyone help me correct for the proper regex?
[20:58] <bekks> robertzaccour: You nheed a browser.
[20:58] <robertzaccour> ikonia: My router is fine, I just need to connect to it.
[20:58] <ravster> hey all.
[20:58] <robertzaccour> bekks: I have a browser
[20:58] <ikonia> robertzaccour: you said you have, you've got wired networking working
[20:58] <ikonia> robertzaccour: so you're already connected
[20:58] <ravster> I can't find grub.cfg in my boot directory.  Any idea where it might be?
[20:58] <robertzaccour> ikonia: wired yes, but I need to set up wireless
[20:59] <ravster> its a UEFI install
[20:59] <ikonia> robertzaccour: well, I'd use network-manager, is the standard,
[20:59] <robertzaccour> ikonia: correction: I need a drop-down list to select my router.
[20:59] <ravster> if that changes anything.
[20:59] <robertzaccour> ikonia: network-manager network-manager: command not found
[20:59] <ikonia> robertzaccour: it's not installed then
[21:00] <robertzaccour> ikonia: its already the newest version
[21:00] <robertzaccour> according to terminal
[21:00] <ikonia> robertzaccour: how can it be, if it's not found
[21:00] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I dunno, but that's what its telling me
[21:01] <ikonia> robertzaccour: what's telling you ?
[21:01] <robertzaccour> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5934135/
[21:02] <ikonia> ahhh I see you're trying to laynch it from the command line
[21:02] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: i believe i did something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136559/guake-doesnt-start-when-session-starts
[21:02] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I'm installing network-config to see how it goes
[21:02] <ikonia> robertzaccour: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[21:02] <bertogatti> X-Sleepy-X: I'll check it out thank a lot
[21:04] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: Also, I changed the line <property name="gravity">static</property> into <property name="gravity">north</property> in this file /usr/share/guake/guake.glade
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[21:04] <islon> so, i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 in my wife's pc from an usb. I'm getting a "Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. Try passing init=option to kernel." every time i try booting from the usb. I pressed tab for init options and it shows "/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed ..." any idea or tips?
[21:05] <bertogatti> X-Sleepy-X: it works
[21:05] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: Also, I changed the line <property name="gravity">static</property> into <property name="gravity">north</property> in this file /usr/share/guake/guake.glade
[21:05] <daftykins> islon: how did you make the flash drive?
[21:06] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: That will fix the gape in the top
[21:06] <crippledmonk> did you make the install usb on a linux system....
[21:07] <islon> daftykins: i downloaded a usb maker from pendrivelinux.com for windows
[21:07] <bekks> islon: How did you create the usb?
[21:07] <robertzaccour> thanks ikonia
[21:07] <reisio> islon: for what?
[21:07] <islon> daftykins: clicked usb-creators -> liveusb install
[21:08] <crippledmonk> islon: I've had issues with unetbootin a time or two. I've found "for me" the dd method pretty much always works. All my machines are linux however.
[21:08] <joshu> where is the config file that store startup applications  set by System > Preference > Startup Applications,
[21:08] <robertzaccour> still not coming up :(
[21:08] <reisio> yeah, dd ftw, it's just trickier :p
[21:08] <daftykins> islon: can you verify your image download by hashing it? could be worth wiping the drive then giving it another try
[21:08] <reisio> which is funny, you'd think those creators would just be dd frontends :p
[21:08] <ikonia> stree: what repo are you using
[21:08] <bertogatti> X-Sleepy-X: all good now, saves me the trouble of manually opening every time
[21:09] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: :)
[21:09] <islon> daftykins: hmm indeed should have checked the hash, will reboot on windows and do that and maybe download some other pendrive creator
[21:10] <crippledmonk> dd if=NAME_OF_YOUR_IMAGE.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M     where X in the sdX is your drive. it's usually sdc or sdb and you will most likely need to run it in the terminal with sudo preceeding.
[21:10] <rodrigo91> anyone know how i could extra all the data off gb filesystem ot a live cd?
[21:10] <robertzaccour> its weird that network manager still isn't opening.
[21:10] <reisio> rodrigo91: eh?
[21:10] <rodrigo91> extract*
[21:11] <rodrigo91> how could i extract all my data from one hard drive to put on a live cd
[21:11] <daftykins> islon: pendrivelinux.com 's 'universal usb installer' might be ok
[21:11] <robertzaccour> network-manager and wicd won't open :(
[21:11] <reisio> rodrigo91: what for
[21:11] <rodrigo91> how can i add more space to the live cd
[21:11] <reisio> rodrigo91: is it a USB?
[21:12] <bekks> rodrigo91: You cant add more space to a live cd.
[21:12] <rodrigo91> so what do i do
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> but you can build your own live cd
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> and put the content you want on it
[21:12] <rodrigo91> i aint got a a usb
[21:12] <sere> anyone know of any bugs with granule .. it just closes for no reason when i try to load a deck...no error anywhere..not sure why
[21:12] <islon> daftykins: yeah that's what i normally use, i think she downloaded the first exe she saw that made sense...
[21:12] <bekks> rodrigo91: Just tell us about your actual problem.
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> probably more than you really want to do -
[21:13] <X-Sleepy-X> sere: not even if you start it from the terminal?
[21:13] <rodrigo91> its started with network manager but i cant fix that
[21:13] <robertzaccour> I can't open network-manager or wicd. Any suggestions?
[21:13] <sere> X-Sleepy-X: tried that... but when it closes it logs me out of X
[21:13] <bekks> !details | rodrigo91
[21:13] <daftykins> islon: sorry i didn't see your first highlight when you said that - heh - let me know how you get on
[21:14] <X-Sleepy-X> sere: start it in screen and the use screen -r to get it back
[21:14] <rodrigo91> ok have it your way
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour try nm-applet
[21:15] <rodrigo91> i have a problem with network manager i started trying to install mifiwifi but it somwhow got corrupted and now i dont have internet for my laptop
[21:15] <robertzaccour> MonkeyDust: thanks :) now only problem is its all grayed out.
[21:15] <bekks> rodrigo91: And which problem which network manager do you have?
[21:16] <rodrigo91> from 12.04
[21:16] <bekks> rodrigo91: And whats the problem with network manager?
[21:16] <sere> X-Sleepy-X: ok i will try that..thanks alot
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour  try ifup eth0 or eth1
[21:16] <rodrigo91> its just wont show up at all i dont know whats wrong
[21:16] <robertzaccour> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5934182/
[21:17] <bekks> rodrigo91: Did you checked wether it is installed?
[21:17] <robertzaccour> MonkeyDust: huh?
[21:17] <rodrigo91> yes i tried reinstalling it to
[21:17] <rodrigo91> nothing helped
[21:17] <PostfixHelp> hello
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour  how come it's so troublesome, it should work out of the box
[21:17] <bekks> rodrigo91: Are you able to start it from command line?
[21:18] <robertzaccour> I'm gonna try rebooting
[21:18] <rodrigo91> i havent tried that
[21:18] <rodrigo91> how does that go
[21:18] <bekks> rodrigo91: run nm-applet from the command line.
[21:18] <PostfixHelp> I need some help with postfix.
[21:19] <Fishscene> Is there a channel for the Ubuntu Edge Phone?
[21:19] <ikonia> #ubuntu-touch
[21:19] <X-Sleepy-X> !details | PostfixHelp
[21:19] <reisio> PostfixHelp: but your nick...
[21:19] <Fishscene> Thank you, ikonia
[21:20] <rodrigo91> im on a live cd plus it would take time to get to the real thing
[21:20] <PostfixHelp> I just installed it, and everything seems fine, but I've had a hard time finding a way to read incoming mail/send it.
[21:20] <PostfixHelp> From what I understand, you use the mail command?
[21:20] <bekks> PostfixHelp: Did you configure postfix?
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> yeah.
[21:21] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: you need an mail client to send mail / read mail
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> what is a good one.
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> it only needs to be local
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> I don't need IMAP/POP3
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> *what is a good one?
[21:21] <bekks> PostfixHelp: You need IMAP/POP3 for reading/sending email.
[21:22] <X-Sleepy-X> !thunderbird
[21:22] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: are you sending mail to real system users on your mail server ?
[21:22] <PostfixHelp> yeah.
[21:23] <PostfixHelp> on different servers.
[21:23] <ikonia> what do mean on different servers ?
[21:23] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: on the server getting the mail, are they system users ?
[21:23] <PostfixHelp> sending to gmail addresses, etc.
[21:23] <PostfixHelp> ikonia: yes
[21:23] <ikonia> then why are you trying to read mail on your server if you're sending to gmail
[21:23] <X-Sleepy-X> telnet localhost 25 EHLO.... :)
[21:24] <ikonia> they won't be hosted/held on your server, they will be held on gmail
[21:24] <PostfixHelp> I have a local server, but I will be sending mail to other people's email addresses
[21:24] <PostfixHelp> on different servers
[21:24] <PostfixHelp> like gmail
[21:25] <bekks> PostfixHelp: So you need an email client, an IMAP/POP3 server, and your postfix server.
[21:25] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: so why are you trying to read mail on your server if you are sending it to remote servers ?
[21:25] <X-Sleepy-X> !thunderbird | Perhaps you'd like to use this client PostfixHelp
[21:26] <PostfixHelp> where does the unix mail command fit into this.
[21:26] <rodrigo91> is there any good file hosting sites
[21:26] <PostfixHelp> ?
[21:26] <bekks> PostfixHelp: Into "email client".
[21:26] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: it doens't
[21:26] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: you are sending mail to remote servers, you can't read them on your local server as they are stored remotely
[21:26] <PostfixHelp> no, but I'll be receiving mail on my local server
[21:26] <PostfixHelp> Aren't those stored locally?
[21:27] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: right, so will the email addresses be system users on your server ?
[21:27] <PostfixHelp> ikonia: yes
[21:27] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: what format have you told it to deliver in ?
[21:27] <teskitoe__> Hi, I'm on EC2 and have multiverse enabled but "sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer" still gives error "no installation candidate". Any tips?
[21:28] <rodrigo91> anybody know how i could resize a partition
[21:28] <bekks> rodrigo91: Using gparted. But you cant resize a live cd.
[21:28] <ikonia> gparted
[21:28] <islon> daftykins: it's working now, it was the usb installer. thanks for your help!
[21:28] <rodrigo91> no i mean my other patition the one that has my things in it
[21:29] <bekks> rodrigo91: Create a backup, and use gparted afterwards.
[21:29] <rodrigo91> how do i create a backup
[21:29] <peyam> use gparted in live cd if you wana change something that is alreadt mounted
[21:29] <X-Sleepy-X> teskitoe__: have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[21:29] <bekks> !backup | rodrigo91
[21:30] <PostfixHelp> ikonia: /var/mail/user
[21:30] <teskitoe__> X-Sleepy-X, yes I have in /etc/apt/sources.list (uncommented all 4 lines). I'm on ubuntu precise
[21:30] <X-Sleepy-X> teskitoe__: and you ran sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[21:31] <lxuser0713> fd
[21:31] <lxuser0713> dsf
[21:32] <lxuser0713> hey i have a problem with dm-crypt/luks. i have add a new passwort but i have not type in the right keys for my new passwort. i dont know what is the new password now and i have deleted my old passwort..... can i add a new passwort without using any luks password? im logged in right now in the system which is encrypted
[21:33] <rodrigo91> so which of those utilities do i use
[21:33] <teskitoe__> X-Sleepy-X, nope! that must be it. running now. thx
[21:33] <teskitoe__> X-Sleepy-X, that did it
[21:33] <X-Sleepy-X> teskitoe__: :)
[21:33] <daftykins> islon: no problem :) glad to hear it
[21:35] <HomelessSanta> Howdy all, by any chance does anyone know how to get the wallpaper plugin working in Compiz?!?
[21:37] <reisio> HomelessSanta: turn it ze on!
[21:38] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to install virtualbox, but It says "No suitable module for running kernel found
[21:38] <mojtaba> " after the installation and says fail. I am using ubuntu 13.04
[21:38] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[21:38] <k1l> mojtaba: make sure the right kernel headers are installed
[21:38] <mojtaba> k1l: How can I check that?
[21:39] <HomelessSanta> reisio, When it's on still doesn't change the wallpaper when changing the virtual desktop. :(
[21:39] <X-Sleepy-X> !headers | mojtaba
[21:40] <mojtaba> X-Sleepy-X: how can I find what is my current linux-header and what should I install? (I am newbie)
[21:40] <k1l> mojtaba: "uname -a" and then look with "dpkg -l linux-headers* | grep ii
[21:40] <k1l> "
[21:41] <reisio> HomelessSanta: it's possible nautilus is controlling the desktop, you might have to disable that pref
[21:42] <mojtaba> k1l: it's current is: 3.5.0-28-generic #48-Ubuntu
[21:43] <HomelessSanta> reisio, Sounds like I'll be getting a headache in a while. lol
[21:43] <mojtaba> k1l: The problem is that, I have installed 3.8. ... before and when booting up the OS, the display is not working. (showing dots.) I am using Dell Studio 1555
[21:43] <mojtaba> k1l: Do you which one I should install?
[21:45] <k1l> mojtaba: see my second command. that will list your installed headers
[21:45] <garage00> Hi, is there a way to skip kernel update? ( i.e.  *.*.45 to *.*.49 ).   My other machine is lagging behind from unuse and I was hoping not to have to go through each update step
[21:46] <ikonia> garage00: it should just update to current
[21:46] <mojtaba> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934270/
[21:47] <mojtaba> k1l: When I boot using these ones, the display just shows some dots.
[21:47] <mojtaba> k1l: But when I use kernel 3.5, it is working normally.
[21:48] <k1l> mojtaba: that are no headers for your kernel. so install "linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic"
[21:48] <garage00> ikonia: looks like I'll have to verify that in another few weeks, the older machine is updating to *.49, but on my workstation *.51 is the latest update
[21:48] <mojtaba> k1l: could you please give me the command to install the header?
[21:48] <holstein> garage00: the different releases have different currently maintained releases
[21:49] <k1l> sudo apt-get install packagename
[21:49] <holstein> garage00: 12.04's kernel is not the same version as 13.04
[21:49] <k1l> where packagename is linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic
[21:49] <garage00> holstein, both machines run precise
[21:49] <holstein> garage00: when you update them, they will get the current version.. nothing about that should take a few weeks
[21:51] <thunder-storm> Hello everybody
[21:51] <mojtaba> k1l: it says: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic
[21:51] <mojtaba> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"
[21:51] <garage00> holstein: I'll check again after the update, currently running update to .49 on less updated machine
[21:51] <holstein> !headers
[21:51] <thunder-storm> How its possible to restore the mouse speed-settings in Ubuntu 12.04 to default?
[21:51] <k1l> mojtaba: use tabcompletion
[21:52] <Henix879> Real quick question: does ubuntu have drivers for this netowrk card? http://amzn.to/19y8Vzr
[21:52] <holstein> garage00: you run "sudo apt-get update" first, to refresh the cache.. then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:52] <mojtaba> k1l: it just has 3.8 in the list
[21:52] <X-Sleepy-X> -lowlatency - Linux kernel headers for version 3.8.0 on x86/x86_64
[21:52] <k1l> mojtaba: so the kernel is from an old release?
[21:53] <mojtaba> holstein: could you please give me the complete command?
[21:53] <X-Sleepy-X> :S
[21:53] <mojtaba> k1l: yes
[21:53] <mojtaba> I think
[21:53] <holstein> Henix879: ubuntu really doenst have any drivers.. the linux kernel includes drivers, and ubuntu includes installable drivers in the repos.. you can just try the live CD and see how the device works first-hand
[21:53] <holstein> mojtaba: thats it, friend
[21:53] <holstein> mojtaba: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:53] <Henix879> I'm asking if drivers are readily available for it
[21:53] <garage00> hostein: thanks, but I have no plans of using non-LTS
[21:53] <X-Sleepy-X> k1l: i don't seem to find 3.8.0-28
[21:54] <X-Sleepy-X> k1l: only -27
[21:54] <holstein> garage00: sorry, i dont recall suggesting *any* particular version
[21:54] <holstein> Henix879: and im suggesting, a live CD will tell you that
[21:54] <Henix879> Because my current network card requires me to go through hell and back just to get it functional, and I'm considering getting the one I just linked
[21:54] <mojtaba> holstein: now I am running ubuntu 13.04
[21:55] <holstein> mojtaba: as i stated, 13.04 will have different kernels than 12.04
[21:55] <garage00> holstein: sorry, but doesn't dist-upgrade upgrade to ringtail?
[21:55] <mojtaba> But the problem is that with new kernel my display is just showing dot dot screen. (Dell Studio 1555)
[21:55] <holstein> garage00: no
[21:55] <garage00> ok
[21:55] <mojtaba> holstein: But the problem is that with new kernel my display is just showing dot dot screen. (Dell Studio 1555)
[21:56] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | garage00
[21:56] <holstein> garage00: dist-upgrade, which you *should* and can research before running, upgrades the packages, like you are trying to do
[21:56] <garage00> holstein: thanks, perfect definition
[21:57] <mojtaba> holstein: hello
[21:57] <brandon_> hi
[21:57] <holstein> mojtaba: if an older kernel is working, i would just use it. and keep checking back after upgrading in the future
[21:58] <reisio> hi brandon_
[21:58] <mojtaba> holstein: Will the command you told me to run remove the current kernel?
[21:58] <mojtaba> holstein: Because if it removes the current kernel, I can not restart my computer anymore. :(
[21:59] <holstein> mojtaba: you should have backups, regardless.. but i have not shared anything that will remove any packages
[21:59] <holstein> mojtaba: if you want the headers, i would run "sudo apt-get update" and refer to
[21:59] <holstein> !headers | mojtaba
[22:00] <HomelessSanta> reisio, No problem I ended up getting it to work.
[22:00] <reisio> HomelessSanta: yeah?
[22:00] <reisio> and are you going to tell the IRC log for posterity?
[22:00] <fbdystang> Hi, I just installed 12.04 LTS server onto a sabertooth with UEFI. I get an error"invalid arch independent ELF magic". Please advise
[22:00] <mojtaba> holstein: when I run sudo apt-get update, it says: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:00] <mojtaba> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[22:00] <mojtaba> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:00] <mojtaba> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:00] <mojtaba> "
[22:01] <holstein> !paste | mojtaba
[22:01] <mojtaba> WHAT SHOULD I DO???
[22:01] <fbdystang> mojtaba: are  you root?
[22:01] <holstein> mojtaba: read, and do what it says.. "is another process using it?".. close the other package managers
[22:01] <HomelessSanta> reisio, I don't know what you mean.
[22:02] <mojtaba> holstein: I guess I must restart the computer
[22:02] <X-Sleepy-X> mojtaba: update, upgrade, dist-upgrade and install will _not_ remove the old kernel _unless_ it says so where it promts you for "Y/n"
[22:02] <mojtaba> holstein: What do you mean by "you need the accompanying -dev packages"?
[22:02] <mojtaba> X-Sleepy-X: Thanks
[22:02] <holstein> mojtaba: i dont recall saying that
[22:03] <mojtaba> holstein: mojtaba: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[22:03] <holstein> mojtaba: thats the bot link, friend.. you should try the first command
[22:04] <mojtaba> holstein: I should just run: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[22:04] <mojtaba> ?
[22:04] <X-Sleepy-X> mojtaba: yes
[22:04] <mojtaba> X-Sleepy-X: holstein: Thank you all. I must restart.
[22:04] <holstein> mojtaba: after running "sudo apt-get update"
[22:04] <mojtaba> holstein: sure. Thanks man
[22:05] <garage00> holstein: solved, my bad, should have ran update manually before installing the updates
[22:05] <holstein> garage00: cheers
[22:06] <rodrigo91> so what would happen if i clicked copy would it copy all my files to another partition
[22:06] <holstein> rodrigo91: in what context?
[22:07] <rodrigo91> in a save as much as i can context
[22:07] <w4pm> ive been increasingly annoyed with apt lately, it has outdated versions of most everything important
[22:07] <fbdystang> Hi, I just installed 12.04 LTS server onto a sabertooth with UEFI. I get an error"invalid arch independent ELF magic". Please advise
[22:07] <reisio> w4pm: no it hasn't
[22:07] <w4pm> you cant install vagrant, node.js, erlang, couchdb, mongodb, etc etc because apt has super outdated versions
[22:07] <holstein> rodrigo91: not following.. you are trying to make a backup?
[22:08] <reisio> w4pm: pick one and tell me which version you want
[22:08] <w4pm> the latest
[22:08] <w4pm> vagrant
[22:08] <reisio> lateset isn't a version
[22:08] <reisio> versions are made up of numbers and sometimes letters
[22:08] <w4pm> maybe i'm doing something wrong?
[22:08] <rodrigo91> no i just wanna copy it to another partition
[22:08] <holstein> w4pm: "sudo apt-get update" updates the package cache
[22:08] <reisio> w4pm: that'd be my guess
[22:09] <holstein> w4pm: if you are "annoyed" with pacagke versions, that has nothing to do with apt.. that is the sources
[22:09] <rodrigo91> holstein would that save the hassle
[22:09] <w4pm> the fact that no one is updating their sources is a bad sign
[22:09] <holstein> rodrigo91: hassle of what, friend?
[22:09] <rodrigo91> from backing up the thing
[22:09] <holstein> rodrigo91: i literally dont know what you are referencing or trying to click on, or why.. start at the beginning with all the details
[22:10] <reisio> w4pm: Debian has 1.2.2 :)
[22:10] <holstein> rodrigo91: what thing?
[22:10] <rodrigo91> partition
[22:10] <reisio> but yeah, you can just get it from http://downloads.vagrantup.com/tags/v1.2.7 if you trust them
[22:10] <holstein> w4pm: ubuntu doesnt "update the sources" like that.. its not a rolling release
[22:10] <X-Sleepy-X> !details | rodrigo91
[22:10] <w4pm> i just want to sudo apt-get install vagrant and for it to get a reaonsable version, not version 1.0.1 which is ancient
[22:10] <holstein> w4pm: you get security release "fixes" and updates.. to the current system
[22:11] <holstein> w4pm: you can always build your own verions of whatever you like.. or try a PPA
[22:11] <w4pm> holstein: thats my point, why have a package manager if i have to manually install all my packages
[22:11] <w4pm> thats why im complaining :P
[22:11] <holstein> w4pm: the package manager just does that friend.. manages packages.. you are trying to complain about the sources not containing something you want
[22:12] <rodrigo91> im trying to copy a partition to a new partition would that work
[22:12] <w4pm> hm well whose responsibility is it to update sources? mine or the software creators or ubuntu..
[22:12] <holstein> w4pm: you can file a backport bug.. or as i said, build your own, or try a PPA.. or run a rolling release
[22:12] <holstein> w4pm: the sources *are* updated
[22:12] <w4pm> well like in the case of vagrant, who should be updating the vagrant source?
[22:12] <w4pm> to be more recent
[22:12] <w4pm> instead of 1.0.1
[22:13] <holstein> w4pm: when you install ubuntu, you are installing and not getting a rolling release.. you are agreeing to use the current versions, and accept updates
[22:13] <w4pm> i did sudo apt-get install update and its still 1.0.1
[22:13] <badelvis> Hi there. I have encrypted my home. Obviously it is very important to save the mount passphrase, in case I have to access my home directly at some time. How can I retrieve the mount passphrase, when I'm logged in and my home is decrypted and mounted?
[22:13] <holstein> w4pm: vagrant, *if* updates are available will be in the next version of ubuntu.. or, on the site from vagrant for you to get your self.. or a PPA
[22:14] <w4pm> i see, so i need to look for PPAs
[22:14] <w4pm> to supplement the released sources
[22:14] <holstein> w4pm: ppa's, or install what you want manually, or try a rolling release distro.. or file a backport bug, and follow up, or offer to package and maintain it
[22:15] <w4pm> holstein: what is the role of package manager in setting up a system then?
[22:15] <w4pm> to maintain lower-level dependencies with libraries that dont change as often?
[22:15] <w4pm> if, at the top level, i'm installing what i want manually
[22:15] <holstein> w4pm: to manage packages
[22:15] <rodrigo91> holstein forgot it yeah im trying toback up my drive
[22:16] <rodrigo91> so where do i start
[22:16] <holstein> w4pm: when you run "sudo apt-get install vagrant", the package manager deals with dependenies , and allows you to easily remove the package.. etc
[22:16] <w4pm> yeah thats what i want to do
[22:16] <w4pm> but its outdated :P
[22:16] <mojtaba> holstein: Hi again. I run the command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r), but it gives me: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic
[22:16] <mojtaba> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"
[22:16] <holstein> w4pm: its up to date, according to the version you have chosen to run
[22:17] <holstein> w4pm: you are always welcome to build your own version of whatever
[22:17] <w4pm> hmm why lock down software versions to a specific linux distro
[22:17] <zykotick9> !latest | w4pm
[22:17] <holstein> w4pm: its not a lock down, friend
[22:17] <w4pm> i see
[22:17] <holstein> w4pm: its the alternative ro a rolling release.. both have pro's and con's
[22:18] <mojtaba> holstein: Hi again. I run the command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r), but it gives me: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic   E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"
[22:18] <w4pm> yeah im trying to get a picture of the psychology behind this, that helps thanks
[22:18] <rodrigo91> holstein how do i bavkup my drive to go back to ubuntu 10.04
[22:18] <holstein> mojtaba: yes, i see that, please relax
[22:18] <benkillin> did something change with the updates recently? now on my boxen I get 404 errors when I am trying to apt-get update
[22:18] <holstein> mojtaba: run "sudo apt-get update" and share errors via pastebin
[22:18] <mojtaba> holstein: sorry
[22:18] <benkillin> I've gathered this is because of EOL of the release
[22:18] <w4pm> my personal psychology would be, the only way i install/remove software is witha  package manager, not juggling a multitude of ways (package manager, manual installation, etc) but i understand the need for stability
[22:18] <benkillin> is there a way to upgrade my release to a supported version without reinstalling from scratch?
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> benkillin, Might you share your release?
[22:19] <holstein> w4pm: if you want the latest and greatest, that needs to be "maintained".. and you are welcome to do so
[22:19] <mojtaba> holstein: It gave no error.
[22:19] <jrib> !eolupgrade | benkillin
[22:19] <reisio> benkillin: yes
[22:20] <holstein> mojtaba: then.. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[22:21] <benkillin> 2.6.38-16-server #67-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 6 18:15:24 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:21] <holstein> mojtaba: pastebin the entire error
[22:21] <mojtaba> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934368/
[22:21] <benkillin> thank you I will look at the eol upgrade page
[22:21] <badelvis> Hi there. I have encrypted my home. Obviously it is very important to save the mount passphrase, in case I have to access my home directly at some time. How can I retrieve the mount passphrase, when I'm logged in and my home is decrypted and mounted?
[22:21] <jake_> can anyone help a moron with Primus and Warcraft?
[22:21] <holstein> mojtaba: why do you need headers?
[22:22] <mojtaba> holstein: I want to run virtualbox
[22:23] <holstein> mojtaba: whats the issue?
[22:23] <mojtaba> it says there is no header
[22:23] <holstein> mojtaba: it?
[22:23] <holstein> mojtaba: share the *exact* errors via pastebin, please
[22:23] <daftykins> virtualbox install by the sounds
[22:24] <mojtaba> holstein: ok
[22:24] <rodrigo91> would wubi work for the back up
[22:24] <daftykins> wubi is dead
[22:24] <holstein> rodrigo91: a live CD will work
[22:24] <OerHeks> badelvis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Mount_Passphrase
[22:24] <f00bar80> After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this
[22:24] <jake_> can someone take a look at the 'patch' located at https://github.com/amonakov/primus/issues/91  and tell me what to do with it?
[22:25] <rodrigo91> holstein:im on a live cd how do i back up my drive
[22:25] <holstein> jake_: i would ignore it, and work with getting 3d support on your hardware, if you need it
[22:25] <rodrigo91> holstein:im on a live cd how do i back up my drive
[22:25] <mojtaba> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934378/
[22:25] <holstein> rodrigo91: you locate the location and source in a filemanager, and copy
[22:26] <jrib> mojtaba: did you read what you pasted?
[22:26] <rodrigo91> what file manager
[22:26] <realdeal> 2014 is going to be the year of Linux. Mark my words
[22:26] <holstein> mojtaba: have you tried '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root?
[22:26] <X-Sleepy-X> benkillin: lsb_release -a
[22:26] <badelvis> Thank you OerHeks. It worked!
[22:27] <mojtaba> holstein: No, I just install it via cmd and used sudo
[22:27] <holstein> mojtaba: virtualbox dkms is available
[22:27] <jake_> I have hardware support through bumblebee, but Primus is supposed to work far faster....but if it is beyond what I can do, I'll stick with just bumblebee
[22:27] <holstein> mojtaba: the error you just linked me suggests running '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root
[22:27] <mojtaba> holstein: What should I do with dkms?
[22:28] <holstein> mojtaba: you should try what the error message suggests.
[22:28] <benkillin> why isn't there an easy button for upgrading an EOLd install?
[22:28] <mojtaba> holstein: how should I install dkms?
[22:29] <holstein> benkillin: fresh install is what i consider easy.. but, there is a path when you catch it early enough
[22:29] <holstein> mojtaba: have you tried '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root?
[22:29] <holstein> mojtaba: if not, try that first, since the error message suggests that
[22:29] <gethenian> are there any boot managers besides grub or lilo?
[22:29] <holstein> gethenian: plenty
[22:30] <f00bar80> hey ppl any comment /.
[22:30] <holstein> f00bar80: on what?
[22:30] <mojtaba> holstein: there is no such file in that directory. (vboxdrv setup'
[22:30] <holstein> f00bar80: i would look in the usual places.. fstab
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> benkillin, Because the eol repos are different.
[22:31] <holstein> mojtaba: i would run "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms"
[22:31] <f00bar80> holstein, look for what ?
[22:31] <lonewulf85> Hey has anyone in here taken the Cisco certifications?
[22:31] <mojtaba> holstein: virtualbox-dkms is already the newest version.
[22:31] <mojtaba> virtualbox-dkms set to manually installed.
[22:31] <holstein> f00bar80: things to be as i expect them to be, based on the drives that are in the system
[22:32] <holstein> mojtaba: then, remove, and reinstall
[22:32] <f00bar80> holstein, in /dev/disk there's 2 IDs
[22:32] <mojtaba> holstein: sorry, but could you please give me the commands?
[22:32] <holstein> mojtaba: sudo apt-get autoremove virtualbox
[22:33] <mojtaba> holstein: and should I run sudo apt-get install virtualbox after that?
[22:34] <holstein> mojtaba: i would run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then after rebooting if there is a kerne upagrade, i would run 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox'
[22:35] <Phoenix1969> HELP   install problem...  After choosing Ubuntu at bood, just get black screen with cursor @ top left...?
[22:35] <holstein> !nomodeset
[22:35] <Phoenix1969> boot
[22:35] <holstein> Phoenix1969: ^^
[22:36] <Phoenix1969> ok, will read, ty
[22:37] <mojtaba> holstein: I run all the commands and still same problem. :(
[22:37] <mojtaba> holstein: No suitable module for running kernel found
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, you might make a thread at the ubuntu forums, more users to answer.
[22:38] <daftykins> askubuntu!
[22:38] <holstein> mojtaba: then, install the module
[22:38] <bigawuc> I have many computers at my house. I am a web developer. Should I use ubuntu-server or centOS to make a local server to access remotely kind of thinking of making a little intranet app for fun
[22:38] <holstein> mojtaba: you are missing the module, not headers
[22:38] <holstein> mojtaba: i have had that problem when i was running a PPA for virtualbox
[22:38] <reisio> bigawuc: whichever distro you're most familiar with
[22:38] <Crowman>    /part
[22:38] <reisio> bigawuc: be it ubuntu, centos, or another one entirely
[22:38] <lonewulf85> wilee-nille, I was just wondering a general question about how tough the courses are?
[22:38] <bigawuc> want to manage a lot of development projects on the server
[22:38] <holstein> bigawuc: this is the ubuntu channel. of course ubuntu is suggested
[22:38] <mojtaba> holstein: Then you know what should I do?
[22:39] <reisio> bigawuc: the only truly sane reason to use CentOS is if you already knew RHEL, and can no longer afford it
[22:39] <holstein> mojtaba: yes.. *exactly* what i said
[22:39] <caersith> Can anyone access medibuntu? I can access them during update.
[22:39] <holstein> mojtaba: do you have a ppa added?
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, No idea myself, mt studies are not even closely related. ;)
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> MY*
[22:39] <Loshki> bigawuc: all other things being equal, I think ubuntu has better support for beginners...
[22:39] <mojtaba> holstein: I am not sure. but maybe before I have done that
[22:39] <caersith> I can't access them during update
[22:39] <mojtaba> holstein: How should I check that?
[22:39] <holstein> mojtaba: confirm if you are, or not.. that can be breaking it
[22:40] <holstein> mojtaba: i would look at my sources
[22:40] <mojtaba> holstein: How should I look at the sources?
[22:40] <mojtaba> holstein: I have not done this before. (sorry for many questions.)
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> caersith, Medibuntu is not supported anymore, not really needed as well.
[22:40] <holstein> mojtaba: this is relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/126175/virtualbox-doesnt-load-after-12-04-upgrade
[22:40] <Casey_> Anyone know how to auto mount a drive that has been encrypted by truebit?
[22:41] <Casey_> truecrypt***
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> Casey_, YOu have the password?
[22:42] <mojtaba> holstein: should I follow the first two answers?
[22:42] <Casey_> wilee-nilee the dirves have not been formated and encrypted yet. I had wanted to wait till I knew if it was possible or not.
[22:42] <holstein> mojtaba: i would read the entire page, and do what you feel comfortable trying
[22:43] <holstein> mojtaba: i am leaving, so addresss the channel
[22:43] <mojtaba> holstein: Thank you very much
[22:43] <mojtaba> bye
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> Casey_, I have not used that option, but this might help. http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/main-program-window
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> on that page
[22:43] <rodrigo91> holstein is this one any good http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-files-from-your-dead-windows-computer/
[22:43] <caersith> wilee-nilee: So what should I do to uninstall them?
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> caersith, I believe you added the repo to  sources.list or sources.list.d however you can untick them and remove in software sources.
[22:45] <Loshki> Casey_: I see a lot of info at http://askubuntu.com/questions/103835/securely-automount-encrypted-drive-at-user-login
[22:45] <Casey_> Thank you both for the replies :)
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> caersith, If you go to the ubuntu software center-edit-software sources-other software ans look there.
[22:47] <caersith> wilee-nilee: I know that, and I already check them on source.list and I couldn't find the medibuntu address there. I'll look into that one more time. In the mean time. Any other idea?
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> caersith, Probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> caersith, Fir that I would just gksudo nautilus and go there and delete, I have nautilus set to bypass trash though
[22:49] <caersith> yeah I found it on the source.list.d
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> For*
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> cool
[22:49] <caersith> wilee-nilee: thanks
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> caersith, no problem I don't know the rm -rf for that link in the folder is all
[22:51] <Wox> what is the recommended setup for partitions?
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> Wox, Not really any recomendation other than big enough for the OS, what is your goal here.
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> and ext4 generally
[22:52] <f00bar80> holstein, i found no fstab in /etc
[22:52] <f00bar80> holstein, only mtab
[22:53] <Wox> wilee-nilee: mine is to use it for work and such, and have alot of apps i guess.. i really dont know what i want
[22:54] <rodrigo91> wilee nilee pm me i really need your guidance
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> Wox, understandable, the partitions are resizeable if needed, some people have a separate home to have saved for upgrades, personally I just use one partition and a swap, install is about 4 gigs or so.
[22:55] <Rallias> Is it possible to tell networkmanager to do an "iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" after connecting to a wireless network?
[22:55] <f00bar80> ppl any comment?
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, I don't do PM's
[22:56] <reisio> f00bar80: hi
[22:56] <f00bar80> reisio, hey
[22:56] <f00bar80> reisio, After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this
[22:56] <Rallias> I know with /etc/networking/interfaces I can do a "post-up", but I'm using a laptop that I'd rather utilize the network-manager infrastructure.
[22:57] <rodrigo91> so can you tell me step by step how to backup my system
[22:57] <f00bar80> reisio, as well i found no fstab in /etc
[22:57] <Wox> wilee-nilee: i have heard that it also good if the system crushed!?
[22:57] <reisio> f00bar80: are your partitions mounted?
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, You can copy and paste from one partition to another in gparted, or due a clonezilla package save and reload, a number of options
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> Wox, A seperate home? I have never had a crash in 6 years but I follow some parameters, my nick is a joke.
[22:58] <Wox> yes
[22:59] <Lightingblade> how do i downalod wmere or virual box ?
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> Wox, I suppose so best insurance on a crash is an image/clone and backups.
[22:59] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: you just want everyone to say "i did it wilee-nilee "
[22:59] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, its in the software center
[22:59] <f00bar80> reisio, proc/partitions list my disk as sda sda1 sda2 ,, etc
[22:59] <thiebaude> virtualbox is
[22:59] <reisio> f00bar80: uhuh, are they mounted? 'mount'
[22:59] <Lightingblade> is it free ?
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, Yah sure you betcha. ;)
[22:59] <thiebaude> yes
[22:59] <thiebaude> Lightingblade,
[23:00] <rodrigo91> wilee nilee: i tried that but it cant
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, tried what?
[23:01] <rodrigo91> trying to copy the partition it just stays the same
[23:01] <f00bar80> reisio, mount shows udev proc, rootfs tmpfs ,, seems no disk are mounted
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, what stays the same?
[23:01] <axelm7> hi guys I have a box with ubuntu 13.04 x64 minimal server install. I'd like to add gnome or kde so I can run vuze. Can someone help me with the apt-get install package groups I have to add?
[23:01] <rodrigo91> the quanitty its just one wuatity
[23:02] <rodrigo91> quatity
[23:02] <Wox> wilee-nilee: someone else told me to use root only and backup
[23:02] <spikes> Hey guys, when I update ubuntu I have been using apt-get upgrade, i noticed it does not update 2 files that dist-upgrade and the gui software updater offer to upgrade
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, I use clonezilla then you have a backup then reload it to the other partition. THe copy paste in gparted has to be to anequal or larger partition in size.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> same with clonezilla
[23:03] <rodrigo91> is clonezilla available for ubuntu 10.04
[23:03] <spikes> my question is, am i better off skipping those files? for some reason in the past when ive done the dist-upgrade it started messing up my ubuntu install
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, It is a 3rd party you download the ISO and make a cd or usb and boot it to use, you need a place to put the packages is all.
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, It is not a mirror image other than as data.
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> its a clone
[23:05] <rodrigo91> darn im strewed i dont got a ush or cd
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, Is it a big hurry, having the correct tools makes things easier and less likely to be a failure.
[23:06] <f00bar80> reisio, also there's nt /mnt directory
[23:07] <f00bar80> reisio, blkid shows the 2 sda1 and sda5 , sda5 is the swap and sda1 is the ext4
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> Wox, Not sure what root only is, I think they meant one partition.
[23:08] <rodrigo91> can i just make a  new partition then extract the other partition from that partition
[23:08] <Lightingblade> dose anyone know a good site to downlaod oprating systems on ?
[23:08] <spikes> Lightingblade, torrents
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, gparted will if the second partition is equal or larger in size
[23:08] <Wox> wilee-nilee: only root partition.. like /
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> Wox, ubuntu does not run in root / only is the mount for a single partition, the word root here is not exactly accurate.
[23:10] <rodrigo91> well the curruped one is 168.24 and the free space is 121.40
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, That is why you can't use gparted.
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> or clonezilla
[23:10] <rodrigo91> so it has to be more
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, equal or more
[23:11] <rodrigo91> i already deleted a couple of used files both totaling 40 gb is that enough
[23:11] <Wox> wilee-nilee: ok but only one partition and backup.. told a guy to me
[23:11] <Wox> other*
[23:12] <Lightingblade> but wont torrent slow down your internet conection  if ur going to download a oprating system ?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, There might be a tar option but I'm not familiar and corrupted partition should just have what you can get out if mountable unless fixable, messing with it may brick it totally if not already.
[23:12] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, its better if you have a high speed internet
[23:13] <Lightingblade> ah ok im just affried it will wreck my conection for a norma home intenret conection
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> Lightingblade, torrents have limitations in speed, I would wager your throttled anyway, do you even know the max speed?
[23:13] <thiebaude> ^^
[23:14] <Lightingblade> no im new to this ^-^ il find out !
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> Lightingblade, You go there. ;)
[23:14] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, i have done it many times, just saying :)
[23:15] <YamakasY> I wonder how I can check which port is on which switch on a dell 9155
[23:15] <YamakasY> 1955
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> you v=can control the speed from the torrent app
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> can*
[23:15] <Lightingblade> is there a website where u can cheack ur intenret speed?
[23:15] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, just google it
[23:15] <Lightingblade> ah
[23:15] <spikes> google speed test first link
[23:15] <thiebaude> :)
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> Lightingblade, on the web what is my speed is a good search
[23:15] <thiebaude> yep
[23:15] <Lightingblade> ty
[23:16] <f00bar80> hello anybody there can help?
[23:16] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, i use this http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[23:17] <Lightingblade> what is a good speed to have ?
[23:17] <spikes> normal cable is like 10-15mbs turbo is 20 and it goes up
[23:17] <f00bar80> reisio, i've got my sda1 mounted and fstab is showing UUID / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[23:17] <Jordan_U> Lightingblade: If you only allow connections to peers via µTP then it should be more polite to other traffic on the network, and with most Free OSs the torrents have enough peers, and they're savvy enough, that you should be able to get great speeds even from only peers supporting µTP.
[23:19] <Lightingblade> ah
[23:20] <f00bar80> ppl any help
[23:21] <spikes> Lightingblade, what works for me with a 25mb connection is limiting it to about 1-1.5mbs top download speed and my internet speed is still sufficient for video streaming and such
[23:21] <daftykins> f00bar80: what's the problem?
[23:21] <Increase> Hey guys
[23:21] <ikonia> f00bar80: what is the actual problm ?
[23:22] <Lightingblade> so if i would do that i can still download stuff on the utorrent without dissurbing annyones internet conection on the net ?
[23:22] <Increase> Is there any way to keep a usb ubuntu to save what you do?
[23:22] <Ben64> !persistance | Increase
[23:22] <Ben64> !persistant | Increase
[23:23] <f00bar80> ikonia, After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this
[23:23] <spikes> Lightingblade, theres not going to be any difference between you downloading a movie on utorrent and an OS, they are probably even close to being the same size
[23:23] <Increase> I've set the persistant file to 4086 and when I exit it doesn't save.
[23:23] <Increase> ben64
[23:23] <Ben64> maybe you did it incorrectly, check the links above
[23:23] <ikonia> f00bar80: use sudo blkid to check the uuid's of your disks
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, Ou can have a ext3 partition named casper-rw for a persistent as big as you want
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> You*
[23:24] <f00bar80> ikonia, i did and they're same as in /mnt/sysroot/etc/fstab
[23:24] <ikonia> f00bar80: what about the grub.cfg
[23:24] <Increase> Ben64, I did the pendrive install like it says on the tut. I slide the persistant slide to all the way and it won't save.
[23:25] <f00bar80> ikonia, i've tried cat it but couldn't get all the file content in initramfs even using "more"
[23:25] <ikonia> f00bar80: why are you looking at initramfs /
[23:25] <ikonia> f00bar80: I said the grub.cfg
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Lightingblade, Be sure to use nicks when addressing others, you can tab complete nicks so we can follow.
[23:26] <acidrain> where can i find help about why my ubuntu system is not allowing me to upload a file to my web server using php?
[23:26] <f00bar80> ikonia, i've tried to cat /mnt/sysroot/grub/grub.cfg , but can't see all the file's content
[23:27] <ikonia> f00bar80: what do you mean can't see all it's content
[23:27] <f00bar80> ikonia, when tried to cat it , only a part of it displayed
[23:27] <ikonia> f00bar80: use a text editor or more
[23:28] <acidrain> the php channel is invite only :/
[23:28] <Increase> You will have to enable the component called 'universe'
[23:28] <f00bar80> ikonia, i'm in initramfs
[23:28] <Increase> How do you that?
[23:28] <Lightingblade> how can i be in more rooms on here is there a command ?
[23:28] <ikonia> f00bar80: use a livecd or something if your not comfortable from busy box
[23:28] <acidrain> i have proper permissions set as apache is running as www-data. and i have permissions on the 'upload' folder set to www-data.www-data 777
[23:29] <f00bar80> ikonia, is there a way to use any text editor from busybox?
[23:29] <thiebaude> in xchat-view-channel switcher-tabs Lightingblade
[23:29] <ikonia> f00bar80: you can still use more
[23:29] <f00bar80> ikonia, more always displayed the file's tail
[23:30] <ikonia> f00bar80: it should display the start
[23:30] <f00bar80> ikonia, i have no cd in this atom notebook
[23:30] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, or if you use pidgin you wont have to worry about the tabs
[23:30] <f00bar80> ikonia, let me try again
[23:31] <Orpheon> I have the source of a c library (in my case portaudio) and would like to include the headers; what is the cleanest/best way to do that?
[23:31] <f00bar80> ikonia, no using more, always shows the file's tail
[23:31] <Lightingblade> but i just see the ubuntu room and no other like when i first joined i saw other room too?
[23:31] <Orpheon> copy-pasting into usr seems dangerous, and leaving somewhere in the file tree and changing the path variable seems not secure either
[23:31] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, change the view to tabs instead of tree view
[23:31] <Increase> You will have to enable the component called 'universe', how do you enable?
[23:31] <Orpheon> is there anything like make install which automatically puts the files in the right places?
[23:31] <thiebaude> in xchat
[23:31] <f00bar80> ikonia, i think in all cases i'll not be able to modify the grub.cfg from the buxybox
[23:32] <ikonia> f00bar80: should be able to
[23:32] <f00bar80> ikonia, how ..?!!
[23:32] <ikonia> f00bar80: first check it has the wrong uuid
[23:33] <acidrain> AH! thx ubuntu for your help. i have found the issue. i didnt restart apache after i changed the max file size upload :P
[23:33] <thiebaude> acidrain, cool :)
[23:33] <f00bar80> ikonia, how , i mentioned that more always shows the file's tail
[23:33] <gethenian> what is a normal connection range for a cardbus wifi?
[23:33] <ikonia> f00bar80: it shoulnd't do that
[23:33] <Lightingblade> what tasps do you mean ?
[23:34] <ikonia> f00bar80: I suggest booting from teh livd usb to make it easy for you
[23:34] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, you using xchat?
[23:34] <f00bar80> ikonia, :( :) ... that;s what happened
[23:34] <Lightingblade> yeah
[23:34] <ikonia> gethenian: that is an impossible question
[23:34] <gethenian> what is usual?
[23:34] <ikonia> gethenian: there is no such thing as "usual"
[23:35] <gethenian> is getting only 1 megabit at 10 feet (3 meters), poor reception?
[23:35] <thiebaude> goto the top of xchat and choose view-channel switcher then choose tabs
[23:35] <thiebaude> Lightingblade,
[23:36] <f00bar80> ikonia, k let me try
[23:36] <mneri> hello, i need the name of a good and easy daemon monitor. I want to know if a daemon on my server get down. Suggestions?
[23:37] <hodapp> I'm on 13.04 on a Chromebook, but I can't seem to connect to any wireless from the commandline; lines like 'iwconfig mlan0 essid NETGEAR' are returning silently, but iwconfig is never showing me as associated and so dhclient can't get an address
[23:37] <hodapp> would do this graphically but cannot make X start without some packages missed in the installation
[23:38] <dr_willis> you did a desktop install.?
[23:39] <hodapp> dr_willis: It's xubuntu-desktop, I believe, but the issue is with some drivers that my hardware configuration requires.
[23:39] <Lightingblade> ah finally got it the options menu at the top was hiden with the taps on normal view so i maximixed the window and it came back agen
[23:41] <hodapp> I suppose I can look at using NetworkManager's commandline tools
[23:43] <azazel91> can anybody tell me where does the deleted items of the live cd go i cant seem to find it anywhere in my computer
[23:44] <Dandalion> azazel91, is there a trash bin in your home folder?
[23:45] <azazel91> no why
[23:46] <azazel91> dadalion do you mean left hand panel then yes
[23:50] <hodapp> okay, NetworkManager apparently is usable from the commandline and actually got me an address despite my iwconfig commands not working
[23:50] <hodapp> woot
[23:50] <vieira> Hello, I wrote a shell script and changed /etc/passwd to execute this instead of /bin/bash and it works when I ssh into the machine. But now when I try to scp it gives me an error :(
[23:50] <vieira> it says: 2013/07/31 23:41:21 Impossible to monitor size on non-tty
[23:50] <vieira> any idea?
[23:51] <varlogtim> Hey hodapp
[23:51] <honestly> vieira: sftp instead?
[23:51] <varlogtim> hodapp NetworkManager is usuable on command line, apt-get install nmcli
[23:52] <honestly> vieira: or you could force the execution of that script in your ssh config instead of replacing your login shell
[23:52] <hodapp> varlogtim: err, apt-get does me no good when I've no Internet access on here.
[23:53] <hodapp> varlogtim: also, as I just said, I was able to use it to get an address
[23:53] <varlogtim> hodapp Oh... My bad... I am on this boring conference call ... Just popped in and thought I would add some non-knowledge
[23:54] <hodapp> :)
[23:54] <f00bar80> ikonia, hey in grub.cfg that's what i found set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set "my sda1 uuid" which i got from blkid
[23:55] <vieira> honestly: sftp user@host does not give any error but does nothing
[23:55] <vieira> honestly: I write pwd, for example, nothing happens
[23:55] <vieira> honestly: or even help...
[23:55] <honestly> weird
[23:55] <fabrina> oi
[23:55] <honestly> looks like replacing your shell by a script was a bad idea >_>
[23:56] <fabrina> como??
[23:56] <vieira> honestly: can only access via ssh, I don't understand what I have to change to not break scp
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> fabrina, English?
[23:56] <fabrina> no
[23:56] <fabrina> brazileiro
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> !br
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> fabrina^^^^^
[23:56] <fabrina> ola
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> ;()
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:57] <fabrina> :))
[23:57] <fabrina> fale me portugues
[23:57] <vieira> honestly: I think it has something to do with tty and non-tty but not sure...
[23:57] <honestly> vieira: I think it has something to do with you not having a login shell anymore
[23:57] <vieira> fabrina: faça /join #ubuntu-br
[23:57] <Increase> Hey guys
[23:58] <Increase> Where do I run the apt-get install command from?
[23:58] <jrib> Increase: terminal
[23:58] <Increase> Do I do it in the folder or in a sub folder or desktop?
[23:58] <Increase> jrib I know that.. Lol. I run it and it says it has no installation candiate
[23:58] <jrib> Increase: you run it in a terminal.  What is it that you want to do exactly?
[23:58] <tripelb> help please. 12.04 iso no internet connection can NOT see the 2-3 ntfs windows and backup partitions.
[23:58] <jrib> Increase: what are  you running?
[23:58] <Increase> ubuntu
[23:59] <jrib> Increase: what command are you running?
[23:59] <Increase> apt-get install
[23:59] <Increase> I'm root
[23:59] <jrib> Increase: the syntax is apt-get install PACKAGE
[23:59] <Increase> Yeah, I'm doing that
[23:59] <vieira> honestly: can I mimic the "thing" that a login shell does just to get scp to work?
[23:59] <Increase> apt-get install aircrack-ng
[23:59] <jrib> !info aircrack-ng
[23:59] <tripelb> i have only used gnome 2 before.
[23:59] <jacobguy7800> Hi guys ubuntu n00b here
[23:59] <jrib> Increase: make sure you have universe enabled and run « sudo apt-get update »