[15:28] <CarstenG> Hi all.
[15:38] <CarstenG> hannie: are you there?
[15:46] <hannie> CarstenG, now I am ;)
[15:46] <CarstenG> Hi
[15:46] <hannie> Good evening
[15:46] <CarstenG> Evening?
[15:46] <hannie> almost
[15:46] <CarstenG> Where are you :-)
[15:46] <hannie> 17:46
[15:46] <CarstenG> In Germany  is afternoon :-)
[15:46] <CarstenG> yes
[15:47] <CarstenG> :-)
[15:47] <hannie> ok, here in France too
[15:47] <CarstenG> What does your Dutch translation of the Saucy manual do?
[15:47] <hannie> I haven't worked on Saucy - nl yet
[15:48] <hannie> Do you want to know how many fuzzies it has?
[15:48] <hannie> I should merge it with raring first
[15:49] <CarstenG> ähm
[15:49] <CarstenG> I mean Raring :-)
[15:50] <CarstenG> Saucy is not yet free for translation …
[15:50] <hannie> Ah, raring is finished, but we are not going to publish it because we have no screenshots and it is rather late
[15:50] <CarstenG> oh
[15:50] <CarstenG> It is never to late ;-)
[15:50] <hannie> As I said before, we will only publish the LTS version
[15:51] <CarstenG> ah, ok
[15:51] <CarstenG> WE have also finished the German version of Raring
[15:51] <hannie> I am currently trying to get the 12.04 version in USC. It is a hell of a job
[15:51] <CarstenG> An Kevin want to publish it soon...
[15:52] <hannie> Good, it is still usable for about 3 months
[15:52] <CarstenG> Oh yes, to get PDFs to USC is bad.
[15:53] <CarstenG> Kevin showed me some weeks ago the pending packages for USC and there was no progress
[15:53] <CarstenG> He gave up :-(
[15:53] <CarstenG> And I can understand him.
[15:54] <hannie> I have packaged the pdf file and am trying to get the attention of some motu guys to review it
[15:54] <hannie> I am afraid the packaging people are understaffed
[15:55] <hannie> See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1207273
[15:55] <manualbot> Launchpad bug 1207273 in software-center "add ubuntu manual nl to software center" [Undecided,New]
[15:58] <CarstenG> I hope someone will help you here.
[15:59] <hannie> Me too. I did get good help on the motu mailing list and #ubuntu-motu and #launchpad
[15:59] <CarstenG> If I remember correctly, Kevin told me, that the Ubuntu guys want to change the package process so that external stuff like our manual comes faster to USC...
[16:00] <CarstenG> We will see, when this happens.
[16:00] <hannie> Well, they have plans.......Since january 2013!!
[16:01] <hannie> Meanwhile, I find information scattered all over the place. Can't see the wood from the trees :)
[16:01] <hannie> And I get plenty of error messages in the terminal because it is hard to figure out what happens behind the schene
[16:01] <hannie> *scene
[16:06] <CarstenG> Just an idea: Could you write a summary of this process to the list, so that the other translation teams can make it too?
[16:08] <hannie> You mean the packaging? I have 20 pages of instructions and terminal output :(
[16:08] <CarstenG> oh
[16:09] <CarstenG> Sound really complicated.
[16:09] <hannie> one example:
[16:09] <hannie> dpkg-source: error: add ump_logo.png in debian/source/include-binaries if you want to store the modified binary in the debian tarball
[16:09] <hannie> dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to ubuntu-handleiding_1.0/ubuntu-handleiding12.04.pdf: binary file contents changed
[16:10] <hannie> This means I have to go through the process all over again :(
[16:10] <hannie> The problem is that the documentation is outdated and contains errors
[16:10] <CarstenG> mmmh, really annoying
[16:11] <hannie> So I keep on trying. Some tests were successful, others failed
[16:12] <hannie> And I also want to spend some time on the saucy version of our manual (as an author)
[16:13] <hannie> I am going to take a break now (temperature outside = 34 degrees)
[16:13] <hannie> see you soon
[18:15] <rreed> join #ubuntu-beginners