[15:28] Hi all. [15:38] hannie: are you there? [15:46] CarstenG, now I am ;) [15:46] Hi [15:46] Good evening [15:46] Evening? [15:46] almost [15:46] Where are you :-) [15:46] 17:46 [15:46] In Germany is afternoon :-) [15:46] yes [15:47] :-) [15:47] ok, here in France too [15:47] What does your Dutch translation of the Saucy manual do? [15:47] I haven't worked on Saucy - nl yet [15:48] Do you want to know how many fuzzies it has? [15:48] I should merge it with raring first [15:49] ähm [15:49] I mean Raring :-) [15:50] Saucy is not yet free for translation … [15:50] Ah, raring is finished, but we are not going to publish it because we have no screenshots and it is rather late [15:50] oh [15:50] It is never to late ;-) [15:50] As I said before, we will only publish the LTS version [15:51] ah, ok [15:51] WE have also finished the German version of Raring [15:51] I am currently trying to get the 12.04 version in USC. It is a hell of a job [15:51] An Kevin want to publish it soon... [15:52] Good, it is still usable for about 3 months [15:52] Oh yes, to get PDFs to USC is bad. [15:53] Kevin showed me some weeks ago the pending packages for USC and there was no progress [15:53] He gave up :-( [15:53] And I can understand him. [15:54] I have packaged the pdf file and am trying to get the attention of some motu guys to review it [15:54] I am afraid the packaging people are understaffed [15:55] See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1207273 [15:55] Launchpad bug 1207273 in software-center "add ubuntu manual nl to software center" [Undecided,New] [15:58] I hope someone will help you here. [15:59] Me too. I did get good help on the motu mailing list and #ubuntu-motu and #launchpad [15:59] If I remember correctly, Kevin told me, that the Ubuntu guys want to change the package process so that external stuff like our manual comes faster to USC... [16:00] We will see, when this happens. [16:00] Well, they have plans.......Since january 2013!! [16:01] Meanwhile, I find information scattered all over the place. Can't see the wood from the trees :) [16:01] And I get plenty of error messages in the terminal because it is hard to figure out what happens behind the schene [16:01] *scene [16:06] Just an idea: Could you write a summary of this process to the list, so that the other translation teams can make it too? [16:08] You mean the packaging? I have 20 pages of instructions and terminal output :( [16:08] oh [16:09] Sound really complicated. [16:09] one example: [16:09] dpkg-source: error: add ump_logo.png in debian/source/include-binaries if you want to store the modified binary in the debian tarball [16:09] dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to ubuntu-handleiding_1.0/ubuntu-handleiding12.04.pdf: binary file contents changed [16:10] This means I have to go through the process all over again :( [16:10] The problem is that the documentation is outdated and contains errors [16:10] mmmh, really annoying [16:11] So I keep on trying. Some tests were successful, others failed [16:12] And I also want to spend some time on the saucy version of our manual (as an author) [16:13] I am going to take a break now (temperature outside = 34 degrees) [16:13] see you soon [18:15] join #ubuntu-beginners