[17:00] <dholbach> o/
[17:00] <coolbhavi> o/
[17:00] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug  1 17:00:54 2013 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <pleia2> #chair dholbach
[17:00] <meetingology> Current chairs: dholbach pleia2
[17:01] <dholbach> welcome everybody :)
[17:01] <dholbach> thanks coolbhavi for turning up
[17:01] <pleia2> welcome to the Community Council meeting!
[17:01] <coolbhavi> hello dholbach and the CC :)
[17:01] <dholbach> pleia2, it escaped me, who apart from the Dev Advisory Team are we meeting up with today?
[17:01] <pleia2> IRC Council
[17:01] <dholbach> great
[17:01] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[17:01] <dholbach> anyone from the IRCC here?
[17:02] <dholbach> maybe we start off with the DAT - it must be late in India already
[17:02] <coolbhavi> :) 10 30 PM here
[17:02] <pleia2> #topic Catch up with the Developer Advisory Team
[17:03] <dholbach> coolbhavi, how have things been going since the last time we met? (and I guess I'll put on my DAT hat in a bit too :-))
[17:04] <Pici> dholbach: re: ircc, myself and Tm_T should be here.
[17:04] <coolbhavi> dholbach, the major work was dat v2
[17:04] <dholbach> Pici, great
[17:04] <Tm_T> I'm somewhat around anyway (:
[17:04] <dholbach> (dat v2 means the Dev Advisory Team overview page we use to track who we're in touch with, who progressed how far on their journey as a developer, etc.)
[17:05] <coolbhavi> and we have a cool instance up here  http://ec2-50-19-67-12.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[17:05] <pleia2> that's really cool
[17:05] <dholbach> up until we mostly used Trello cards for that and a list of uploads per developer, which got slightly out of hand after a couple of cycles
[17:05] <pleia2> no doubt :)
[17:05] <coolbhavi> trello overflow :)
[17:05] <dholbach> Andrew Starr-Bocchicchio did a PHENOMENAL job on this
[17:06] <coolbhavi> dholbach, +1
[17:06] <dholbach> one stumbling block we're currently having is the deployment
[17:06] <dholbach> I said I was happy to host this on holba.ch
[17:06] <dholbach> but just ran out of time looking into it
[17:06] <dholbach> sorry about that
[17:06] <pleia2> I assume it's on some random person's ec2 account?
[17:06] <AlanBell> hi Pici and all
[17:07] <dholbach> pleia2, yes, but it might get a bit too expensive over time
[17:07] <pleia2> no doubt
[17:07] <dholbach> it crunches quite a bit of LP data, etc
[17:07] <pleia2> jcastro is using hpcloud for discourse, I wonder if you could get a similar deal
[17:07] <dholbach> I'll have a chat with him later on
[17:07] <pleia2> great
[17:07] <coolbhavi> dholbach, if anyone needs hosting space m ready to give as I bought a new physical server
[17:07] <dholbach> I'm no expert when it comes to these things
[17:08] <pleia2> dholbach: he might make you juju deploy it
[17:08] <pleia2> :)
[17:08] <dholbach> yeah
[17:08] <dholbach> and "normally deploying" it is not my forté either ;-)
[17:08] <dholbach> that's probably why we got stuck where we are right now
[17:08] <dholbach> in between a transition where I'm blocking things :)
[17:08]  * pleia2 nods
[17:08] <dholbach> that's also why activity went down quite a bit
[17:08] <dholbach> so we have to figure this out soon
[17:08] <dholbach> I'll talk to jcastro tomorrow
[17:09] <dholbach> promise! :)
[17:09] <pleia2> thanks dholbach!
[17:09] <dholbach> coolbhavi, we could probably also do with some restaffing
[17:09] <dholbach> huats stepped down
[17:09] <pleia2> coolbhavi: also, looking forward to seeing you at fosscon next week :)
[17:09] <dholbach> and some other members got busy with other projects as well
[17:09] <coolbhavi> dholbach, sorry here too as m sucked into HPUX and HP labs
[17:09] <coolbhavi> pleia2, same here :)
[17:10] <dholbach> coolbhavi, I could imagine that as soon as we set up the new tool, start using it and fixing a few bugs, we might as well train a few new contributors in the team
[17:10] <coolbhavi> dholbach, yes +1
[17:10] <dholbach> and being on the DAT is wonderfully social task
[17:10] <dholbach> so we might just want to pick and ask the right people :)
[17:10] <dholbach> coolbhavi, that's something the two of us could probably look into together?
[17:11] <coolbhavi> dholbach, yes can send out a email reg restaffing and a dat overview
[17:11] <dholbach> that'd be fantastic
[17:11] <pleia2> \o/
[17:11] <dholbach> shall we have a chat tomorrow after I talked to jcastro?
[17:11] <coolbhavi> yes
[17:11] <dholbach> awesome
[17:12] <dholbach> I think apart from that there's not much to report - just that we should get on the tasks mentioned above quite urgently :)
[17:12] <dholbach> pleia2, any more questions? :-D
[17:12] <pleia2> nope, thanks coolbhavi and dholbach!
[17:12]  * dholbach hugs coolbhavi
[17:12] <dholbach> thanks a bunch!
[17:12]  * coolbhavi hugs dholbach back 
[17:12] <pleia2> #topic Catch up with the IRC Council
[17:13] <coolbhavi> thanks CC
[17:13] <coolbhavi> :)
[17:13] <Pici> Hi
[17:13] <pleia2> welcome Tm_T, Pici and AlanBell!
[17:13] <AlanBell> hi
[17:13] <pleia2> we haven't heard much from the IRCC lately, hopefully this means all is well :)
[17:14] <pleia2> any concerns, challenges, success stories you'd care to share?
[17:14] <AlanBell> yeah, we have been a bit quiet
[17:14] <sabdfl> o/ sorry to be late
[17:14] <dholbach> hey sabdfl!
[17:14] <AlanBell> I think things are generally OK, we have been missing a few meetings though
[17:15] <Pici> We approved a new Ubuntu Member recently (m4v) though :)
[17:15] <Pici> Long overdue
[17:15] <IdleOne> YAY!
[17:15] <dholbach> What's been keeping you busy since we last met? :)
[17:15] <AlanBell> we are on top of most general issues like assigning cloaks, and yes, we approved M4V for membership, there are no outstanding applications
[17:15] <pleia2> another "oh, they weren't already a member?" :)
[17:15] <Pici> Pretty much.
[17:16] <pleia2> I do notice that next cycle we will have some restaffing to do
[17:16]  * AlanBell checks on launchpad
[17:16] <Pici> There hasn't been many disputes that have needed the IRCC itself to intervene, which is nice.
[17:16] <dholbach> great
[17:16] <pleia2> that's great
[17:16] <AlanBell> end of December we expire
[17:16] <AlanBell> there was a bit of a dispute in the norway loco channel, but we worked with the loco leader to resolve that
[17:16] <dholbach> did you have any plans or tasks from one of the last UDSes?
[17:18] <Tm_T> I think one of the ongoing tasks is we should have a session or two on every cycle about IRC
[17:19] <dholbach> did you get feedback in those sessions? like anything that needs changing? or are you at a stage where you take care of normal business and everything's fine? :)
[17:19] <Tm_T> making us visible, so to speak
[17:19] <Tm_T> dholbach: more like I think we should make them more often
[17:20] <dholbach> ah, gotcha
[17:20] <Tm_T> one form of communication that is
[17:20] <AlanBell> we were doing new operators every UDS, in line with the dev cycle, then the UDS cycle changed a bit wiht the online UDS
[17:21] <AlanBell> so, when do we start the restaffing process given that we expire at the end of the year?
[17:21] <dholbach> right, that makes sense
[17:21] <dholbach> like 2-3 weeks before the expiry?
[17:21] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Restaffing should have more info
[17:22] <AlanBell> ah OK, so plenty of time still :)
[17:22] <dholbach> is there any help the IRCC needs or feedback or anything else?
[17:23] <Pici> The only thing I can think of is with the recent Edge announcement, we didn't have anywhere to route people initially.
[17:24] <AlanBell> don't think so, and I should note that I am pretty happy about the increased communications around the Ubuntu Edge thing compared to other surprises
[17:24] <AlanBell> Pici: yeah we did :)
[17:24] <pleia2> that's good to hear
[17:24] <dholbach> :-)
[17:25] <dholbach> great
[17:25] <Pici> AlanBell: well, we did, but I don't think we were all in the loop from the get go.  Anyway, it was much better than prior releases
[17:25] <Tm_T> improvement, definitely
[17:26] <Tm_T> also I liked much of the contact relating the forums incident
[17:26] <dholbach> Tm_T, you mean the analysis? or the communications during the incident?
[17:27] <Tm_T> communication that it happened and that it might affect irc channels by increasing traffic
[17:27] <dholbach> right
[17:27] <AlanBell> are the forums back to normal now? I haven't been tracking that one closely
[17:27] <Pici> AlanBell: I believe so.
[17:27] <Tm_T> AlanBell: up and running
[17:28] <Tm_T> just that login is changed, I have two accounts now
[17:28] <dholbach> yes, you log in through SSO and through some magic you can reconcile accounts
[17:28] <AlanBell> ok
[17:28] <Pici> We had a spike in traffic, but it wasn't as bad as I had expected.
[17:28] <dholbach> I didn't check for too long how that exactly works, I must admit
[17:29] <Tm_T> anyway, improvements on communication, I like
[17:29] <dholbach> I'm done with questions for the IRCC - I'm very happy with the work you're doing.
[17:29] <IdleOne> Would be nice to get some communication about how to reconcile the forums accounts (sorry for speaking out of turn)
[17:29] <pleia2> the forums council has been handling that
[17:30] <dholbach> maybe you can ping elfy about this
[17:30] <AlanBell> IdleOne: it is available if you try to log on to the forums looks OK to me
[17:30] <IdleOne> AlanBell: my account had a 2 added to it
[17:30] <pleia2> yeah, elfy helped me out
[17:30] <AlanBell> idletwo
[17:30] <dholbach> :)
[17:30] <Pici> pleia2: but... you normally have a 2 ;)
[17:30] <AlanBell> or idlethree perhaps :)
[17:31] <IdleOne> anyway, not a big deal and I'll ping elfy. thank you :)
[17:31] <dholbach> perfect :)
[17:31] <IdleOne> AlanBe11
[17:31] <dholbach> !!
[17:31] <dholbach> pleia2, sabdfl: any more questions for the IRCC from you?
[17:31] <pleia2> I'm all set
[17:34] <pleia2> thanks Pici, AlanBell and Tm_T (and IdleOne!)
[17:34] <dholbach> not sure if we lost sabdfl
[17:34] <IdleOne> :)
[17:34] <Pici> You know where to find us if you need anything :)
[17:34] <AlanBell> thanks o/
[17:34] <dholbach> that's right :)
[17:34] <Tm_T> thanks
[17:34] <dholbach> thanks a bunch!
[17:34] <pleia2> #topic Any other business
[17:34] <pleia2> does anyone have anything else?
[17:34] <dholbach> I'm all set
[17:37] <pleia2> ok, thanks everyone
[17:37] <pleia2> meeting up with the Doc team next meeting
[17:38] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[17:38] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug  1 17:38:03 2013 UTC.
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[17:38] <dholbach> thanks a bunch!
[17:40] <sabdfl> hi
[17:40] <sabdfl> stepped afk to take a call, sorry
[17:41] <sabdfl> AlanBell, you did catch that there was an announcement brewing, thanks for the nudge in that case :)
[22:00] <bkerensa> #startmeeting Ubuntu 22:00 Membership Board https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A22:00
[22:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug  1 22:00:05 2013 UTC.  The chair is bkerensa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[22:00] <bkerensa> #chair bkerensa
[22:00] <meetingology> Current chairs: bkerensa
[22:00] <bkerensa> #voters chilicuil PabloRubianes Pendulum cjohnston bkerensa
[22:00] <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes Pendulum bkerensa chilicuil cjohnston
[22:01] <bkerensa> Hello All, Welcome to the August 22:00UTC Membership Board! We have two applicants today. We will hear each application in the order they were received.
[22:01] <nik90> Hi
[22:01] <bkerensa> hello
[22:01] <nik90> Should I start?
[22:01] <bkerensa> CarlosNeyPastor: are you there?
[22:01] <CarlosNeyPastor> hola
[22:01] <bkerensa> ok
[22:01] <CarlosNeyPastor> si, estoy acá
[22:01] <bkerensa> nik90: Can you briefly introduce yourself to the board?
[22:01] <nik90> bkerensa: sure
[22:02] <nik90> Hi everyone! This is Nekhelesh. I am an aerospace masters student studying in The Netherlands.
[22:02] <CarlosNeyPastor> disculpen pero mi manejo del ingles es pobre
[22:02] <nik90> In my free time, I contribute to Ubuntu by developing, triaging bug reports, blogging and supporting community members.
[22:02] <nik90> You can find my wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nekhelesh%20Ramananthan
[22:02] <bkerensa> CarlosNeyPastor: you will be next
[22:02] <nik90> Some of my official contributions to Ubuntu including hosting a session during the Ubuntu User Day on "Switching to Ubuntu from Windows",
[22:02] <nik90> creating a Ubuntu Manual for 12.04 and more recently being involved in the development of the clock core app for the Ubuntu Touch project
[22:02] <nik90> I have also been blogging about my developer experiences and regular updates about the core app project development at
[22:02] <nik90> http://ubuntu-touch.blogspot.nl/
[22:03]  * popey is here to cheer for nik90 
[22:03]  * bobweaver echos 
[22:03] <popey> I have worked closely with nik90 on the core apps project. he's been professional, reliable and efficient through the whole process.
[22:03] <bkerensa> nik90: your application looks great and I really like the work you are doing on Ubuntu Touch
[22:03] <popey> He's been a great example of what an Ubuntu member should be.
[22:03]  * nik90 feels good
[22:03] <WebbyIT> I started to collaborate to Ubuntu Core Apps development few weeks ago, and I'm very thankful to nik90 , who has helped and encouraged me. I think he fully represents the Ubuntu Spirit and totally deserves the membership
[22:04] <bkerensa> do any other board members have questions for this applicant?
[22:04] <nik90> bkerensa: thnx
[22:04] <PabloRubianes> Es really nice
[22:05] <bkerensa> #vote Application of Nekhelesh Ramananthan (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nekhelesh%20Ramananthan)
[22:05] <meetingology> Please vote on: Application of Nekhelesh Ramananthan (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nekhelesh%20Ramananthan)
[22:05] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[22:05] <cjohnston> +1
[22:05] <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston
[22:05] <bkerensa> #votesrequired 4
[22:05] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[22:05] <PabloRubianes> +1
[22:05] <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes
[22:05] <bkerensa> +1
[22:05] <meetingology> +1 received from bkerensa
[22:05] <chilicuil> +1, great work
[22:05] <meetingology> +1, great work received from chilicuil
[22:05] <Pendulum> +1
[22:05] <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
[22:05] <bkerensa> #endvote
[22:05] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Application of Nekhelesh Ramananthan (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nekhelesh%20Ramananthan)
[22:05] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[22:05] <meetingology> Motion carried
[22:05] <bobweaver> \o/
[22:05] <nik90> Wow! Thank you everyone.
[22:05] <bkerensa> nik90: congratulations!
[22:06] <popey> Boom!
[22:06] <WebbyIT> yeah, congrats nik90 :D
[22:06] <popey> Congratulations nik90
[22:06] <bobweaver> congrates nik90  you deserve it
[22:06] <chilicuil> welcome abroad, keep inspiring us, nik90 =)!
[22:06] <nik90> thnx WebbyIT, popey, bkerensa, chilicuil, bkerensa
[22:06] <nik90> It means a lot to be accepted
[22:06] <bkerensa> #topic Application of Carlos Ney Pastor (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlosNeyPastor)
[22:06] <PabloRubianes> Congrats
[22:06] <nik90> PabloRubianes: thnx :)
[22:07] <bkerensa> Is anyone here in support of CarlosNeyPastor?
[22:07] <CarlosNeyPastor> disculpen pero mi manejo del ingles es pobre, si me pueden ayudar
[22:07] <chilicuil> CarlosNeyPastor: si, no hay problema, presentate en español
[22:08] <bkerensa> CarlosNeyPastor: no problema proceda
[22:09] <CarlosNeyPastor> Soy CarlosNeyPastor , soy de Uruguay
[22:10] <CarlosNeyPastor> hace años utilizo Ubuntu hace años, trato de ayudar a las personas que estan comenzando a utulizar Ubuntu
[22:11] <CarlosNeyPastor> hace un año soy integrande del consejo de Ubuntu Uruguay
[22:11] <bkerensa> CarlosNeyPastor: ¿Puede decirnos eres un estudiante o lo que su profesión es? ¿Tienes un hobby?
[22:12] <CarlosNeyPastor> Soy tecnico en reparación de PC, estoy terminando la carrera profecional la cual me falta un año para concluirla.
[22:13] <CarlosNeyPastor> Mis hobbies son ayudar a personas en los foros, hacer documentaciones de uso de cosas relacionadas con el software libre, principalmente Ubuntu
[22:14] <bkerensa> excelente
[22:14] <bkerensa> Do any other board members have questions?
[22:14] <chilicuil> CarlosNeyPastor: hola, veo que has hecho algunos manuales para principiantes, has pensado en colaborar con doc.ubuntu-es.org ?, la ultima vez que revise hacian falta personas
[22:16] <CarlosNeyPastor> Personalmente me gustaria participar en algun proyecto como por ejemplo doc.ubuntu-es.org, actualmente no dispongo de mucho tiempo como para tener una constancia, pero es algo pendiente uqe tengo
[22:16] <CarlosNeyPastor> hasta el momento he relizado manuales de uso de cosas puntuales y actualmente estoy haciendo una guia de uso y configuracion de Ubuntu
[22:16] <bkerensa> CarlosNeyPastor: Pues bien, parece que está muy dedicado a ayudar siempre que sea posible
[22:16] <CarlosNeyPastor> a nivel muy basico
[22:17] <bkerensa> Shall we vote?
[22:18] <bkerensa> #vote Application of Carlos Ney Pastor (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlosNeyPastor)
[22:18] <meetingology> Please vote on: Application of Carlos Ney Pastor (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlosNeyPastor)
[22:18] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[22:18] <bkerensa> #votesrequired 4
[22:18] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[22:18] <PabloRubianes> +1
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes
[22:18] <cjohnston> +1
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston
[22:18] <Pendulum> +1
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
[22:18] <bkerensa> +1 Espero sus continuas contribuciones! Buen trabajo!
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 Espero sus continuas contribuciones! Buen trabajo! received from bkerensa
[22:18] <chilicuil> +1, colaboracion extensa en varias actividade
[22:18] <meetingology> +1, colaboracion extensa en varias actividade received from chilicuil
[22:18] <bkerensa> #endvote
[22:18] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Application of Carlos Ney Pastor (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlosNeyPastor)
[22:18] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[22:18] <meetingology> Motion carried
[22:18] <PabloRubianes> CarlosNeyPastor, vamo Uruguay noma!
[22:19] <nik90> congrats CarlosNeyPastor!
[22:19] <bkerensa> CarlosNeyPastor: ¡Felicidades
[22:19] <CarlosNeyPastor> Gracias!
[22:19] <chilicuil> CarlosNeyPastor: felicidades!, bienvenido al club ;)
[22:19] <CarlosNeyPastor> Muchas gracias!!
[22:19] <bkerensa> Thanks to our applicants who are now new members and to the board members!
[22:19] <chilicuil> CarlosNeyPastor: tengo entendido que Naudy tambien ha estado trabajando sobre manuales para principiantes, tal vez quieras ponerte en contacto con el
[22:20] <nik90> thank you board members and all who attended
[22:20] <bkerensa> Please be sure to see Membership Perks that may interest you here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[22:21] <CarlosNeyPastor> chilicuil: gracias por el dato, no he podido hablar con Naudy mucho, aunque establecimos una buena relacion de amistad luego de la UbuConLA 2013
[22:22] <chilicuil> CarlosNeyPastor: =)
[22:26] <bkerensa> #endmeeting
[22:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug  1 22:26:15 2013 UTC.
[22:26] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-01-22.00.moin.txt
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