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maurohi everyone18:54
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Guest21966i'm new to ubuntu studio18:56
Guest21966anyine who can give me any tips?18:56
zequenceGuest21966: What kind of help do you need?19:03
Guest21966sorry zequence i'm running low bat19:04
Guest21966i'll have to log out and power the laptop19:04
Guest21966back in a while19:04
voltaHi folks. I'm having a wicked sound issue in ubuntustudio 13.04. i.e. no sound at all. My laptop is an alienware m14x.22:08
volta/proc/asound shows me two cards: HDA Intel PCH and HDA NVidia22:11
voltapavucontrol seema to be configured correctly22:11
volta(sorry -> seams)22:12
holsteinvolta: you dont really configure pavucontrol22:13
holsteinyou can use it to configure pulse22:13
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.22:13
holsteinvolta: if you refer to that ^^ you'll see that if you open a terminal, and run "aplay -l" you should see what alsa is capable of using22:13
holsteinif it were me, i would just load up a few live CD's til something works.. or just check the usual places.. alsamixer and/or pavucontrol.. and dont trust any labels for volume controls22:14
voltaDid all the volume applet stuff. There is apparently a signal. But nothing to hear from the speakers22:15
holsteinvolta: look for, and apply all upgrades22:15
holsteinvolta: try other live CD's22:15
holsteinvolta: confirm that the hardware is functioning22:16
voltathe issue exists only in ubuntustudio. My dualboot debian 7 works flawlessly.22:16
holsteinvolta: then, check alsa versions and kernel versions22:17
voltadid all system update, upgrade and system-upgrade  today22:17
holsteinvolta: there is nothing about ubuntustudio that is different, and going to cause you an issue like that22:17
holsteinits config related22:17
holsteinvolta: what is the output of "aplay -l" ?22:17
holsteinvolta: have you read that linke?22:17
holsteinhave you tried another ubuntu live CD?22:18
holsteindo you need ubuntustudio?22:18
voltasuppose so too, but the **** thing is not speaking to me - must be my (configuration) fault22:18
voltaI like ubuntu studio. It's fast (xfce), slim and nice to handle22:19
holsteinvolta: im not suggestions its your fault22:19
holsteinvolta: what is the output of aplay -l ?22:19
voltamay i post it here?22:19
holsteinvolta: you can install slim and xfce in debian 722:19
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voltaaplay -l22:20
volta**** Liste der Hardware-Geräte (PLAYBACK) ****22:20
voltaKarte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], Gerät 0: CA0132 Analog [CA0132 Analog]22:20
volta  Sub-Geräte: 1/122:20
volta  Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #022:20
voltaKarte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], Gerät 1: CA0132 Digital [CA0132 Digital]22:20
volta  Sub-Geräte: 1/122:20
volta  Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #022:20
voltaKarte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], Gerät 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]22:20
volta  Sub-Geräte: 1/122:20
volta  Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #022:20
voltaKarte 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], Gerät 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]22:20
volta  Sub-Geräte: 1/122:20
volta  Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #022:20
voltathank you ubottu22:20
holsteinthe intel should be working finr22:20
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holsteinanyways, i would try the same installer disc you used live22:21
holsteinits likely just something tricky22:21
holsteinvolta: one interesting thing that happens via xfce.. if you mute with the keyboard, you cant unmute22:21
holsteinvolta: so, if you have tried unmuting.. try doing it again, and differently22:21
holsteinvolta: try from the live CD, so you can bypass what you have done so far22:22
voltaFN seems to work fine (mute unmute)22:22
holsteinvolta: FN is what im talking about22:22
holsteinvolta: and it will *seem* like it is fine22:22
holsteinvolta: but, as i said, and in actualility, its not22:22
holsteinvolta: its a bug in xfce/alsa where that will *not* unmute22:23
holsteinvolta: so, if you have, as i said, used the keyboard to mute and unmute, use the GUI instead22:23
holsteinvolta: understand?22:23
voltaI installed from a usb stick and already deleted the image, so i woud have to do the download again and prepare the stick....22:23
holsteinvolta: are you following?22:23
holsteinvolta: OK22:24
holsteinvolta: then, try the mute suggestion please22:24
voltagot that. going to mute/umute from the mixer (right klick on sound symbol)22:25
voltaright klick on sound symbol offers mute option. I tried it with no result22:27
voltaI had to manually add the sound symbol to the bar because it disappeared before22:28
holsteinvolta: try as a different user22:29
holsteinvolta: try in #xubuntu or #ubuntu since this is really not ubuntustudio related22:29
holsteinvolta: try with different kernels, if you have an older one22:29
voltaFunny thing is that I can see a peak signal in pavucontrol22:29
holsteinvolta: that is from something playing audio22:29
voltatried already an older kernel22:29
holsteinvolta: you can "see" that if you have no audio device22:29
holsteinvolta: forget that22:30
holsteinvolta: its something you have muted22:30
voltayes, I#m running vlc for testing purposes22:30
holsteinvolta: run many things for testing purposes22:31
voltasame with totem and kaffeine, no sound22:32
holsteinvolta: i understand that22:33
holsteinvolta: im just saying, try other things, as you test22:33
holsteinvolta: you have something muted, friend22:33
holsteinvolta: i would try a live CD, and you should have sound out of the box22:33
holsteinvolta: it is a debian base, so all the same "tricks" apply22:33
holsteinvolta: you are using different UI's here, and are likely just not accustomed to them, and have done something accidentally22:34
holsteinvolta: you may also, as i said, insatll xfce in debian 7 and enjoy22:34
voltaprobably right. As I wrote I have sound from this same machine, just with another linux.22:34
holsteinvolta: then, as i said, you can refer to that kernel version, and alsa version22:35
holsteinvolta: the same software is the same22:35
voltaWould be nicer to find just the right "unmute-button" .22:36
holsteinvolta: install whatever DE you are used to using22:37
voltaThanks a lot for your help so far.22:37
holsteinvolta: how about the other user?22:37
voltagood idea22:37
voltaI'm going to log out, log into the other user and then come back22:38
voltahi. Had to add a new user, so it took longer. But no sound symbol and also no sound with the new user.23:00
holsteinvolta: try a live CD, friend23:00
voltaand copy some configuration from the cd?!23:00
holsteinor, just add the 2 packages you are interested in running into your debian which is working23:00
voltajust want something more bleeding edge than debian, something to toy arround23:01
voltatried a lot of distros ;-)23:01
voltaI'm happy I have these two quite well configured. Dispite this little catastrophe ;-)23:02
holsteinvolta: i would see that *everything* works from the live CD23:02
voltaI'm quite shure it does. But I will try on occasin.23:03
voltaI'll go through the links you sent me earlier in detail. See what happens.23:04
volta...not that I did't already google some of them ;-)23:05
holsteinvolta: you can also try #xubuntu or #ubuntu23:05
holsteinvolta: i know this is challenging to understand, but this is not ubuntustduio specific23:06
voltaI still think it's meplayingtoomucharroundspecific. But that's ok ;-)23:07
voltaCould jack just be in the way?23:07
holsteinvolta: are you using jack?23:07
holsteinif not, it wont be23:07
holsteinvolta: if you are never going to use jack, then dont use it23:08
voltaardour asked for it23:08
holsteinvolta: jack will break the config that i have been talking you through23:08
voltaand some other tools23:08
holsteinvolta: you should restart the machine23:08
holsteinlaunch *nothing* but vlc23:08
holsteintroubleshoot what you know23:08
holsteinget pulse working23:09
ubottuFor information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro23:09
voltaJust to mention it: soud did work before, on this same installation.23:10
holsteinvolta: then, you broke it23:10
holsteinvolta: that clears that up23:10
holsteinvolta: i was troubleshooting as though it *never* worked23:11
voltanew stuff to learn23:11
holstein  /join #opensourcemusicians and read the links23:11
holsteini suggest testing with a live CD.. still.. again23:11
holsteinyou wont break anything permanently by messing around23:12

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