[18:54] <mauro> hi everyone
[18:55] <Guest21966> hello
[18:56] <Guest21966> i'm new to ubuntu studio
[18:56] <Guest21966> anyine who can give me any tips?
[19:03] <zequence> Guest21966: What kind of help do you need?
[19:04] <Guest21966> sorry zequence i'm running low bat
[19:04] <Guest21966> i'll have to log out and power the laptop
[19:04] <Guest21966> back in a while
[22:08] <volta> Hi folks. I'm having a wicked sound issue in ubuntustudio 13.04. i.e. no sound at all. My laptop is an alienware m14x.
[22:11] <volta> /proc/asound shows me two cards: HDA Intel PCH and HDA NVidia
[22:11] <volta> pavucontrol seema to be configured correctly
[22:12] <volta> (sorry -> seams)
[22:13] <holstein> volta: you dont really configure pavucontrol
[22:13] <holstein> you can use it to configure pulse
[22:13] <holstein> !audio
[22:13] <holstein> volta: if you refer to that ^^ you'll see that if you open a terminal, and run "aplay -l" you should see what alsa is capable of using
[22:14] <holstein> if it were me, i would just load up a few live CD's til something works.. or just check the usual places.. alsamixer and/or pavucontrol.. and dont trust any labels for volume controls
[22:15] <volta> Did all the volume applet stuff. There is apparently a signal. But nothing to hear from the speakers
[22:15] <holstein> volta: look for, and apply all upgrades
[22:15] <holstein> volta: try other live CD's
[22:16] <holstein> volta: confirm that the hardware is functioning
[22:16] <volta> the issue exists only in ubuntustudio. My dualboot debian 7 works flawlessly.
[22:17] <holstein> volta: then, check alsa versions and kernel versions
[22:17] <volta> did all system update, upgrade and system-upgrade  today
[22:17] <holstein> volta: there is nothing about ubuntustudio that is different, and going to cause you an issue like that
[22:17] <holstein> its config related
[22:17] <holstein> volta: what is the output of "aplay -l" ?
[22:17] <holstein> volta: have you read that linke?
[22:18] <holstein> link*
[22:18] <holstein> have you tried another ubuntu live CD?
[22:18] <holstein> do you need ubuntustudio?
[22:18] <volta> suppose so too, but the **** thing is not speaking to me - must be my (configuration) fault
[22:19] <volta> I like ubuntu studio. It's fast (xfce), slim and nice to handle
[22:19] <holstein> volta: im not suggestions its your fault
[22:19] <holstein> volta: what is the output of aplay -l ?
[22:19] <volta> may i post it here?
[22:19] <holstein> volta: you can install slim and xfce in debian 7
[22:19] <holstein> !paste
[22:20] <volta> aplay -l
[22:20] <volta> **** Liste der Hardware-Geräte (PLAYBACK) ****
[22:20] <volta> Karte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], Gerät 0: CA0132 Analog [CA0132 Analog]
[22:20] <volta>   Sub-Geräte: 1/1
[22:20] <volta>   Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
[22:20] <volta> Karte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], Gerät 1: CA0132 Digital [CA0132 Digital]
[22:20] <volta>   Sub-Geräte: 1/1
[22:20] <volta>   Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
[22:20] <volta> Karte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], Gerät 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[22:20] <volta>   Sub-Geräte: 1/1
[22:20] <volta>   Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
[22:20] <volta> Karte 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], Gerät 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[22:20] <volta>   Sub-Geräte: 1/1
[22:20] <volta>   Sub-Gerät #0: subdevice #0
[22:20] <volta> thank you ubottu
[22:20] <holstein> the intel should be working finr
[22:20] <holstein> fine*
[22:20] <holstein> !bot
[22:21] <holstein> anyways, i would try the same installer disc you used live
[22:21] <volta> lol
[22:21] <holstein> its likely just something tricky
[22:21] <holstein> volta: one interesting thing that happens via xfce.. if you mute with the keyboard, you cant unmute
[22:21] <holstein> volta: so, if you have tried unmuting.. try doing it again, and differently
[22:22] <holstein> volta: try from the live CD, so you can bypass what you have done so far
[22:22] <volta> FN seems to work fine (mute unmute)
[22:22] <holstein> volta: FN is what im talking about
[22:22] <holstein> volta: and it will *seem* like it is fine
[22:22] <holstein> volta: but, as i said, and in actualility, its not
[22:23] <holstein> volta: its a bug in xfce/alsa where that will *not* unmute
[22:23] <holstein> volta: so, if you have, as i said, used the keyboard to mute and unmute, use the GUI instead
[22:23] <holstein> volta: understand?
[22:23] <volta> I installed from a usb stick and already deleted the image, so i woud have to do the download again and prepare the stick....
[22:23] <holstein> volta: are you following?
[22:24] <holstein> volta: OK
[22:24] <holstein> volta: then, try the mute suggestion please
[22:25] <volta> got that. going to mute/umute from the mixer (right klick on sound symbol)
[22:27] <volta> right klick on sound symbol offers mute option. I tried it with no result
[22:28] <volta> I had to manually add the sound symbol to the bar because it disappeared before
[22:29] <holstein> volta: try as a different user
[22:29] <holstein> volta: try in #xubuntu or #ubuntu since this is really not ubuntustudio related
[22:29] <holstein> volta: try with different kernels, if you have an older one
[22:29] <volta> Funny thing is that I can see a peak signal in pavucontrol
[22:29] <holstein> volta: that is from something playing audio
[22:29] <volta> tried already an older kernel
[22:29] <holstein> volta: you can "see" that if you have no audio device
[22:30] <holstein> volta: forget that
[22:30] <holstein> volta: its something you have muted
[22:30] <volta> yes, I#m running vlc for testing purposes
[22:30] <volta> ok
[22:31] <holstein> volta: run many things for testing purposes
[22:32] <volta> same with totem and kaffeine, no sound
[22:33] <holstein> volta: i understand that
[22:33] <holstein> volta: im just saying, try other things, as you test
[22:33] <holstein> volta: you have something muted, friend
[22:33] <holstein> volta: i would try a live CD, and you should have sound out of the box
[22:33] <holstein> volta: it is a debian base, so all the same "tricks" apply
[22:34] <holstein> volta: you are using different UI's here, and are likely just not accustomed to them, and have done something accidentally
[22:34] <holstein> volta: you may also, as i said, insatll xfce in debian 7 and enjoy
[22:34] <volta> probably right. As I wrote I have sound from this same machine, just with another linux.
[22:35] <holstein> volta: then, as i said, you can refer to that kernel version, and alsa version
[22:35] <holstein> volta: the same software is the same
[22:36] <volta> Would be nicer to find just the right "unmute-button" .
[22:37] <holstein> volta: install whatever DE you are used to using
[22:37] <volta> Thanks a lot for your help so far.
[22:37] <holstein> volta: how about the other user?
[22:37] <volta> good idea
[22:38] <volta> I'm going to log out, log into the other user and then come back
[23:00] <volta> hi. Had to add a new user, so it took longer. But no sound symbol and also no sound with the new user.
[23:00] <holstein> volta: try a live CD, friend
[23:00] <volta> and copy some configuration from the cd?!
[23:00] <holstein> or, just add the 2 packages you are interested in running into your debian which is working
[23:01] <volta> just want something more bleeding edge than debian, something to toy arround
[23:01] <volta> tried a lot of distros ;-)
[23:02] <volta> I'm happy I have these two quite well configured. Dispite this little catastrophe ;-)
[23:02] <holstein> volta: i would see that *everything* works from the live CD
[23:03] <volta> I'm quite shure it does. But I will try on occasin.
[23:03] <volta> *occasion
[23:04] <volta> I'll go through the links you sent me earlier in detail. See what happens.
[23:05] <volta> ...not that I did't already google some of them ;-)
[23:05] <volta> +n
[23:05] <holstein> volta: you can also try #xubuntu or #ubuntu
[23:06] <holstein> volta: i know this is challenging to understand, but this is not ubuntustduio specific
[23:07] <volta> I still think it's meplayingtoomucharroundspecific. But that's ok ;-)
[23:07] <volta> Could jack just be in the way?
[23:07] <holstein> volta: are you using jack?
[23:07] <holstein> if not, it wont be
[23:08] <volta> yes
[23:08] <holstein> volta: if you are never going to use jack, then dont use it
[23:08] <volta> ardour asked for it
[23:08] <holstein> volta: jack will break the config that i have been talking you through
[23:08] <volta> and some other tools
[23:08] <holstein> volta: you should restart the machine
[23:08] <holstein> launch *nothing* but vlc
[23:08] <holstein> troubleshoot what you know
[23:09] <holstein> get pulse working
[23:09] <holstein> !proaudio
[23:10] <volta> Just to mention it: soud did work before, on this same installation.
[23:10] <holstein> volta: then, you broke it
[23:10] <holstein> volta: that clears that up
[23:10] <volta> jippeeee
[23:11] <holstein> volta: i was troubleshooting as though it *never* worked
[23:11] <volta> new stuff to learn
[23:11] <holstein>   /join #opensourcemusicians and read the links
[23:11] <volta> sorry
[23:11] <holstein> i suggest testing with a live CD.. still.. again
[23:11] <volta> ok
[23:12] <holstein> you wont break anything permanently by messing around