[00:23] <skellat> xnox: That's what I saw looking at the branch via Launchpad Librarian.  I hope Noskcaj comes up with something interesting to scratch whatever itch he's got in the matter.
[01:07] <luke_> Anyone around?
[01:09] <pleia2> usually, we all kind of lurk
[01:09] <luke_> i wanted to join the testing team
[01:10] <pleia2> great :)
[01:10] <pleia2> did you have any questions in particular?
[01:10] <luke_> not really, just want to jump in there :)
[01:11] <pleia2> that's the way to do it!
[01:11] <pleia2> middle of the night for the guy who leads up testing, but most of us can answer questions if you encounter any issues
[01:11] <luke_> how does the testing work? can you break it down for me?
[01:12] <pleia2> http://xubuntu.org/news/want-to-help-out-xubuntu-test-raring/ is an article from a few months ago when we were testing raring (now testing saucy)
[01:12] <pleia2> explains a lot of the basics
[01:13] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough has a full walkthrough of testing ISOs
[01:14] <luke_> is there any code testing? what i mean by that is unit testing?
[01:14] <Unit193> Nobody tests me, I'm (mainly) stable.
[01:15] <pleia2> we currently don't do any traditional unit testing
[01:15] <Unit193> Sometimes it's requested to test some application, like Mugshot.
[01:15] <luke_> okok
[01:16] <pleia2> since Xubuntu is made up of a bunch of applications we pretty much trust that the source of the software has done testing and we mostly test things as a whole - installation of Xubuntu, basic functionality of key applications
[01:16] <pleia2> all manual at this point
[01:16] <luke_> ok
[07:04] <elfy> pleia2: thanks for talking to luke last night 
[07:05] <elfy> which just looks too odd now I posted it ... 
[07:06] <Noskcaj> hey elfy 
[07:06] <elfy> hi Noskcaj - thanks for keeping up with merges
[07:06] <Noskcaj> np
[07:07] <Noskcaj> I've made an OEM slideshow for xubuntu, hopefully it will get accepted soon
[07:08]  * elfy read that 
[07:08] <elfy> might not have had much time this week - but I have been reading the backlog
[09:40] <knome> Noskcaj, have you sent your form to the magazine?
[09:41] <Noskcaj> knome, yep
[09:41] <knome> Noskcaj, okay, good
[09:41] <knome> Noskcaj, and have you already got the agreemend and signed that?
[09:41] <knome> *agreement
[09:41] <Noskcaj> i think so
[09:41] <knome> okay, good good
[09:42] <knome> we're able to finish this magazine thing soon then
[09:42] <Noskcaj> knome, just incase you've not read the scrollback, i made an oem slideshow for xubuntu
[09:42] <knome> i didn't, you didn't ping me
[09:44] <knome> where do you have the branch?
[09:51] <Noskcaj> lp:~noskcaj/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/oem-xubuntu i thinl
[10:01] <knome> ok, i'll try to check it out today
[17:19] <bluesabre> maybe I should put this here instead, so that knome, mrpouit/mr_pouit, or micahg might see
[17:19] <bluesabre> https://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/xubuntu-default-settings/lightdm-gtk-greeter-updates/+merge/177959
[17:20] <bluesabre> also, ochosi/mrpouit: the gtk theme in saucy is still the old one without gtk 3.8 or lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.6 support
[17:37] <Unit193> Ah, so could poke https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-s-artwork
[17:42] <bluesabre> thanks Unit193
[17:43] <Unit193> Heh, sure.
[17:52] <knome> bluesabre, saw that, didn't have time to review yet
[17:53] <pleia2> jjfrv8: are we pretty much all set for 12.04 docs?
[17:53] <knome> pleia2, yup
[17:53] <pleia2> need to get it all wrapped up for sru
[17:54] <knome> pleia2, i just came home and i can run through it with you if you have time
[17:54] <pleia2> and I should upload it to docs.xubuntu.org
[17:55] <pleia2> knome: I can make that work, give me 20 min or so?
[17:55] <knome> yeah, same here (i need to plug in and that)
[18:15] <pleia2> knome: hihi
[18:15] <knome> o/
[18:15] <pleia2> ok, shall I download and build this thing?
[18:16] <knome> pleia2, so basically, the 1204 docs should be fine in the technical side (eg. the menu paths should be correct etc etc)
[18:16] <knome> sure, if you want to have a look at it ;)
[18:17] <knome> i've gone through all of jack's MP's, and merged
[18:17] <pleia2> great
[18:17] <knome> they are all fine, and we will want some of them applied to the saucy docs as well
[18:17]  * pleia2 nods
[18:18] <pleia2> do we need to do a specific call for starting on the saucy docs, or does jjfrv8 have that handled?
[18:18] <knome> i've asked him to send the same improvements as MP's to the saucy branch and AFAIK, some other people are working on it, but a call never hurts
[18:19] <pleia2> ok, I'll see about doing that soon
[18:19] <pleia2> so what else needs to be done with precise?
[18:19] <knome> after all, the saucy docs are more open to all kind of improvements and expansions
[18:19]  * pleia2 nods
[18:19] <knome> well, probably a quick run-through and then the SRU
[18:19] <pleia2> ok, looking now
[18:19] <knome> cheers
[18:20] <knome> i think the SRU was also a good test for the docs to see if it's release-agnostic enough (and i think we passed)
[18:22] <knome> ah, i see something that can be further improved :)
[18:23] <knome> hmmwait
[18:23] <knome> no, it's there
[18:26] <pleia2> :)
[18:28] <knome> we should probablt note that apt-offline isn't available by default in 12.04
[18:29]  * pleia2 nods
[18:30] <pleia2> http://docs.xubuntu.org/1204/ but didn't link it to the main page yet
[18:33] <knome> pleia2, pushed rev 65
[18:33] <pleia2> k
[18:36] <knome> i'm ok for the docs to start going the SRU route.
[18:36] <knome> woo!
[18:36] <pleia2> +1
[18:36] <GridCube> when its the next meeting?
[18:37] <GridCube> its its or is
[18:37] <knome> is
[18:37] <knome> we should schedule.
[18:37] <GridCube> mmmhmm i fail at is
[18:38] <knome> eg tala ekki islensku a annan weg
[18:38] <GridCube> i would really like to have some follow ups for the mir subject
[18:38] <GridCube> even if there is some test i could help do
[18:38] <knome> from non-xubuntu side, or xubuntu people poking at the mir team?
[18:39] <pleia2> GridCube: Unit193 and I have been talking about it for days :)
[18:39] <knome> Unit193 has been building some ISOs and stuff
[18:39] <pleia2> GridCube: did you see Unit193's iso?
[18:39] <GridCube> how are we going and stuffs
[18:39] <GridCube> no
[18:39] <pleia2> Unit193: link for GridCube plz
[18:39] <GridCube> was a mail about it?
[18:39] <Unit193> 3 pings all very quickly, I broke something...
[18:39] <pleia2> no, just on irc
[18:39] <GridCube> oh ok
[18:39] <pleia2> and we've been updating http://etherpad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-mir
[18:39] <knome> Unit193, if it's okay for you, can you send a mail to the list announcing the mir ISO?
[18:39] <pleia2> I think I might make a youtube video
[18:40] <knome> woo pleia2 on a video!
[18:40] <Unit193> http://vanir.unit193.tk/dump/xubuntu-13.10-xmir-i386.iso.zsync or http://vanir.unit193.tk/dump/xubuntu-13.10-xmir-i386.iso
[18:40] <pleia2> Unit193: assuming it's ok to share that iso link (on your home connection?)
[18:40] <Unit193> (There's an md5sum file too.)
[18:40] <Unit193> pleia2: VPS, just crappy domain.
[18:40] <pleia2> ah ok
[18:40] <knome> we don't care if you don't care...
[18:40] <knome> pleia2, can you talk with jjfrv8 about a shell?
[18:41] <GridCube> its safe enought to install on real hardware? like if i install it on a partition of my netbook?
[18:41] <pleia2> knome: of course
[18:42] <knome> pleia2, ta
[18:42] <Unit193> GridCube: Well you can't use it in a VM, but live booting is a fine test.
[18:42] <pleia2> jjfrv8: if you'd like a shell, just email me your preferred password and your id_rsa.pub key to use (or link to one in lp)
[18:42] <GridCube> live ok
[18:42] <knome> GridCube, never install testing stuff on production machines.
[18:42] <GridCube> that could do
[18:42] <Unit193> (I use grml-rescueboot: drop ISO in /boot/grml/, sudo update-grub, and reboot.)
[18:43] <GridCube> thats why i'm asking, i would like to know if its safe enough because this might be our default desktop in less than 2 months
[18:43] <knome> jjfrv8, if you need help with the shell stuff, feel free to ask me or pretty much anybody in the channel
[18:43] <GridCube> i find this matter really worrying
[18:44] <GridCube> well i have to go home now
[18:45] <Unit193> Dowh, was going to ask him for his inxi -G...
[18:49] <skellat> This still bothers me as a boot result from the latest ISO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/skellat/audiobox-profile?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=IMG_0039.JPG
[18:50] <pleia2> knome: oh right, so you handling getting the docs srued now?
[18:51] <knome> pleia2, was hoping you would have done that, but i can do that as well
[18:51] <knome> pleia2, or we can delegate to skellat if he's up to it
[18:54] <pleia2> knome: I don't know how :)
[18:54] <skellat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[18:55] <skellat> And I need to scramble to find a charger for my laptop...
[18:55] <skellat> brb
[18:56] <knome> pleia2, i don't know the exact process either, but AFAIK, it's similar to freeze exception paperwork
[18:56] <pleia2> I don't know how to do that either ;)
[18:57] <knome> stop giving excuses! :P
[18:57] <skellat> pleia2: There is a bug that has to be filed.  The wiki link has the template
[18:57] <pleia2> I vote for delegate to skellat 
[18:58] <knome> me too, if he's up to it
[18:58] <knome> skellat, you comfortable with doing it?
[18:58] <pleia2> it just magically creates the package from the branch?
[18:58] <knome> pleia2, i don't know about building magic...
[18:58] <skellat> pleia2: No, there is an SRU team to review things
[19:00] <skellat> There is criteria to consider here for if we qualify for SRU process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#When
[19:00] <knome> skellat, we do.
[19:00] <knome> skellat, there will be nobody saying we can't do that SRU. if somebody says, point them to me
[19:01] <skellat> Okay
[19:01] <knome> skellat, it's a no-brainer: it affects nobody except xubuntu, it can't break other packages
[19:01] <skellat> pleia2 will need to work with me on this as I need a bug control master to nominate for series once I do the paperwork
[19:01] <knome> skellat, neither me or pleia2 can do that afaik
[19:01] <knome> or we can probably both nominate
[19:01] <knome> so just ping us if you need us.
[19:01] <skellat> If you can change severity, you can do it
[19:02] <knome> skellat, so can i mark you as the assignee now? ;)
[19:02] <skellat> Not yet
[19:02] <skellat> Is the changelog completely done for this?
[19:02] <knome> i'm comfortable with out changelog
[19:02] <skellat> We'll need to insert some "Closes LP#" language in there
[19:02] <knome> *our
[19:03] <knome> you need to file that bug first then...
[19:03] <skellat> But I gotta create the bug first so we can have that
[19:03] <knome> yeah
[19:03] <knome> so can i now set you as the assignee? be assured i will give you all the support you need.
[19:03] <knome> :)
[19:04] <skellat> Go for it
[19:04] <knome> thanks
[19:04] <bluesabre> Unit193: is inxi in the repos or just that ppa?
[19:04] <skellat> Did we actually ship proper documentation with 12.04?
[19:04] <bluesabre> it seems like that would be super helpful to have in the repos
[19:04] <Unit193> !info inxi saucy
[19:04] <knome> skellat, not really, the docs were from far away
[19:04] <bluesabre> woot!
[19:04] <skellat> bluesabre: It should be in ppa:skellat/tests done via backportpackage
[19:05] <Unit193> bluesabre: Installed in the ISO too, for reasons. :P
[19:05] <bluesabre> :)
[19:05] <knome> thanks again skellat. i'm just so much more comfortable somebody running the process, even if they asked me about it every day. 
[19:07] <knome> so anybody else want to take any other bug assigned to xubuntu-team at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-flavor-xubuntu.html ?
[19:07] <knome> looks like there aren't too many. yay!
[19:08] <knome> elfy, can you confirm if the testcase bug statuses are up-to-date?
[19:08] <knome> elfy, seems like there are many inprogress
[19:09] <knome> elfy, and/or todo
[19:09] <bluesabre> i'll take this one:
[19:09] <knome> elfy, if you want, i can run through them with you later today
[19:09] <elfy> the in progress ones are afaik
[19:09] <bluesabre> [smd-seandavis] Work to gain packageset uploader rights for Xubuntu through Developer Membership Board process: TODO
[19:09] <knome> bluesabre, that's already assigned to you :P
[19:09] <bluesabre> :D
[19:09] <knome> elfy, abiword is set as "TODO"
[19:10] <knome> elfy, xfce appearance settings as "INPROGRESS"
[19:10] <knome> but i thought i have already done those.
[19:10] <elfy> I'll loook 
[19:10] <knome> done as in added to the tracker
[19:10] <knome> cheers
[19:10] <knome> anything that is in the tracker (even the admin side) can be marked fix released
[19:10] <ganglere1> How do the "Test Needed" qa's work? They're in need of a test case to be written?
[19:10] <knome> ganglere1, yes
[19:10] <elfy> ganglere1: yep
[19:11] <elfy> I might to be honest move the autopilot ones
[19:11] <elfy> not really any chance of them getting sorted afaik
[19:12] <bluesabre> elfy, I can help a bit with the autopilot ones if I find free time
[19:12] <elfy> ok 
[19:12] <bluesabre> I played with it a bit, doesn't seem too hard
[19:12] <elfy> tbh I am still firmly on the fence 
[19:12] <knome> elfy, oh, ah, those are autopilot tests
[19:12] <elfy> knome: some are :)
[19:12] <knome> elfy, we should rename the bugs that it was clear they are
[19:12] <elfy> I'll sort it out in a bit
[19:13] <elfy> yep
[19:16] <elfy> knome: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases
[19:16] <elfy> there they need to be? 
[19:16] <knome> elfy, yup
[19:16] <elfy> thought so 
[19:17] <bluesabre> oh good, I didn't have to ask for the link
[19:17] <Unit193> We aren't shipping translations in docs?  I've been seeing po files come in.
[19:17] <elfy> I'll work through it all now 
[19:17] <skellat> !info xubuntu-docs precise
[19:17] <knome> Unit193, no, i should look how to do that.
[19:18] <Unit193> knome: That, re-write SD, setup meetings, you have a lot. :P
[19:19] <knome> Unit193, sure.
[19:19] <knome> Unit193, rewriting the SD is taking half-a-day and just getting on with it :)
[19:21] <skellat> LP Bug 1207493
[19:24] <knome> skellat, does those changes look like what you need?
[19:27] <skellat> knome: Which changes are you referring to?
[19:28] <skellat> Ah
[19:28] <skellat> Those changes
[19:28] <skellat> Not fix completed
[19:28] <skellat> Was the changelog updated to add the LP bug number?  If not, I'm working on a merge proposal real fast.
[19:28] <knome> skellat, i'll do that in a minute
[19:29] <skellat> I'm pushing a branch up now for MP
[19:31] <skellat> knome: https://code.launchpad.net/~skellat/xubuntu-docs/precise/+merge/178156
[19:35] <knome> skellat, thanks, merged
[19:35] <elfy> knome:  when you got a minute can we just run through adding a testcase 
[19:36] <knome> elfy, sure
[19:36] <knome> elfy, are you ready now?
[19:39] <elfy> yep
[19:39] <elfy> sorry - not looking at timestamps :)
[19:41] <elfy> knome: whenever you are 
[19:42] <knome> lol
[19:42] <knome> so open the admin
[19:42] <knome> then go to the testcases tab, and click "add a testcase"
[19:42] <elfy> yep 
[19:42] <elfy> then find the id
[19:42] <knome> now you should have the bzr branch open
[19:42] <knome> no
[19:42] <knome> you don't input the id
[19:43] <knome> just get a test from the branch that doesn't have an ID
[19:43] <elfy> they all have that I can see
[19:44] <skellat> knome: The SRU is filed and our involvement for the moment is done.
[19:44] <knome> skellat, ta
[19:44] <knome> elfy, in that case, there is no testcase to add.
[19:44] <elfy> mmm
[19:44] <knome> elfy, or somebody has come up with an ID
[19:44] <elfy> so it's there somewhere?
[19:44] <knome> anyway
[19:45] <knome> you basically copy-paste the testcase content
[19:45] <knome> and add the title
[19:45] <elfy> oh 
[19:45] <knome> THEN the tracker will show what ID is linked with that test
[19:45] <knome> and then rename the file in the branch and commit/push the changes
[19:46] <knome> so as testcases in the branch shouldn't be given ID's if nobody has added them to the tracker
[19:47] <elfy> knome: so something is wrong - in http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases
[19:47] <elfy> 1589 is Xfce4 Thunar Volman
[19:47] <elfy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/packages/
[19:48] <elfy> 1589 is Time Administration
[19:48] <knome> elfy, yes
[19:48] <knome> elfy, somebody has "guessed" an ID for time-admin in the branch
[19:48] <elfy> ...
[19:48] <knome> elfy, if you look under "Xfce", thunar volman is also 1589
[19:49] <elfy> yep
[19:49] <elfy> so someone is just guessing at id's 
[19:49] <knome> yup.
[19:49] <elfy> that's helpful
[19:50] <knome> anyboby that isn't a tracker admin and inserting tests shouldn't give tests ID's
[19:50] <knome> that's what the mess was the last time as well.
[19:50] <elfy> indeed
[19:50] <elfy> well I know for fact it wasn't me - I've only looked at it the last time we did :)
[19:51] <knome> yeah.
[19:51] <elfy> right - well I - perhaps stupidly assumed these things talked to each other - and you could just tell it an ID
[19:52] <elfy> I've not got time to do all that tonight - I'm just having a break from dealing with the sso fallout
[19:52] <elfy> I'll have to look - I should be able to follow the log here
[19:52] <knome> i can fix that later
[19:53] <elfy> I've gone through the bugs - renamed OUR a/pilot stuff so it is obvious
[19:53] <elfy> checked all the bugs - marked those on tracker as released
[19:53] <elfy> EXCEPT settings manager - that needs to be checked to make sure all bits are tested somewhere
[19:54] <elfy> so https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-s-qa is up to date
[19:54] <knome> ta
[19:54] <elfy> 10 left commited - working from the bottom - stuff at top is all autopilot
[19:55] <knome> :)
[19:55] <elfy> still showing 13% of 56  - I guess it's not caught up
[19:55] <knome> yeah, it's not live
[19:55] <knome> it'll update at some point
[19:56] <elfy> Last updated: Thu 01 August 2013, 18:59 UTC tomorrow I guess :D
[19:56] <knome> that's an hour ago
[19:57] <elfy> yea - bet it'll do it 2/8/13 @ 18:59 :)
[19:57] <knome> it used to be once in an hour-3 last cycle
[19:58] <elfy> knome: just so I have it right in my head - a testcase on branch with a bad ID - how would you un-ID it?
[19:59] <elfy> I'll work on it all over the weekend then
[19:59] <knome> elfy, just rename it to not have an ID.
[20:00] <knome> elfy, or add it to the tracker and rename to new ID
[20:00] <knome> elfy, but as i said, i can look into that later today... :)
[20:00] <elfy> ok
[20:00] <knome> (once i've stopped confusing poor balloons)
[20:00] <elfy> ok 
[20:00] <elfy> :)
[20:02] <lderan> poor balloons
[20:06] <Unit193> Also, ISO is growing it would seem. :/
[20:06] <elfy> don't know about confusing balloons - does me 
[20:07] <elfy> I just find it hilarious how unjoined up the qa stuff is 
[20:08] <knome> there's just a bit too many levels for packages
[20:09] <knome> for ISO's, they all make sense
[20:11] <elfy> not what I mean - in a sensible world - you'd merge a testcase - give it a number - go to packages.qa - give that the number - done
[20:12] <knome> in the ideal world, there was a script that did that for us
[20:12] <elfy> :)
[20:12] <knome> and that would be completely doable with the API
[20:18] <lderan> doable you say mmmm
[20:18] <knome> ;)
[20:18] <knome> well there is a python API...
[20:18] <lderan> python you say mmmm
[20:19] <lderan> i can give it a shot :)
[20:19] <knome> heh, well you should ask balloons first ;)
[20:20] <lderan> where is this balloons?
[20:20] <knome> #ubuntu-quality
[20:21] <knome> but it's my turn to pester him now >:)
[20:21] <knome> he's the ubuntu/canonical qa lead
[20:21] <lderan> okay i shall poke him after
[20:33] <jjfrv8> knome, hi. I'll e-mail pleia2 the info she requested for getting the screen set up.
[20:33] <knome> jjfrv8, awesome. if you need help with that, or setting the screen up after, just ping people in the channel
[20:35] <jjfrv8> I was trying to avoid letting the world see how ignorant I was about that stuff :) I've got it running now headless on a Raspberry pi but that has its disadvantages too.
[20:36] <Unit193> Hah!  Awesome!
[20:36] <knome> :)
[21:07] <elfy> knome: ok - blueprint is up to date again
[21:11] <knome> elfy, goodie
[21:12] <elfy> there's still a few to do - I'll look at those over weekend - need to do it myself 
[21:12] <knome> mhm
[21:12] <knome> or just wait others to pick them up
[21:13] <elfy> no - I meant there are 3 merged that need to go into packages tracker
[21:13] <elfy> not testcases :)
[21:13] <knome> aha
[21:13] <elfy> I'll also look at testcases that can be in testsuites
[21:14] <knome> did you read my discussion with balloons today?
[21:14] <elfy> kind of - in between talking to people in forum :(
[21:14] <knome> we probably want to leave the obviously shared stuff, like firefox and thunderbird, out of the xubuntu product
[21:14] <elfy> yea - wouldn't move anything that was like that
[21:15] <knome> yup, good
[21:15] <elfy> xfce window manager for instance - needs to be on packages and in xfce testsuite
[21:15] <knome> yup!
[21:16] <elfy> I'd forgotten you had to recreate the testcase - which was why it was making no sense to me :)
[21:16] <knome> hehe
[23:10] <pleia2> knome: any reason not to link up new 12.04 docs on the website now? (updated to version 65)
[23:10] <pleia2> s/website/docs site
[23:10] <knome> no
[23:10] <pleia2> k, on it
[23:11] <knome> ta
[23:13] <pleia2> there we go, shiny
[23:13] <knome> ooh ooh :)
[23:14] <knome> i like our docs progress.
[23:14] <pleia2> yeah, we're like a real operating system \o/
[23:14] <knome> haha
[23:14] <knome> something like that
[23:15] <skellat> pleia2: Once you're done, could you pretty please update LP Bug #1207493  with a comment to mention you've updated the website docs and give a link to such?
[23:17] <skellat> Adding the comment will help with questions from the SRU team
[23:18] <pleia2> hmm, should probably just add xubuntu-website to the affected projects
[23:19] <pleia2> there we go
[23:19] <skellat> Noo
[23:19] <skellat> Not that
[23:20] <knome> pleia2, not really...
[23:20] <knome> :)
[23:20] <pleia2> oh?
[23:20] <skellat> I meant literally just add a comment stating "Our online public-facing documentation has been just updated at http://docs.xubuntu.org to reflect what is in the requested stable release update."
[23:20] <knome> s|org|org/|
[23:21] <pleia2> skellat: ah, well this communicates the same thing, should be ok
[23:21] <skellat> Just need something like that to add tracking for the SRU team.  
[23:22] <skellat> Okay.  Somebody needs to poke Scott Kitterman or Brian Murray to look at the SRU proposal then.
[23:23] <knome> skellat, done @#ubuntu-release.
[23:23] <pleia2> thanks knome 
[23:23] <knome> no problem
[23:28] <GridCube> pleia2, can i pm you?
[23:28] <pleia2> GridCube: shoot
[23:40] <Unit193> So since it's being sent to the list, any last changes requested to the page?
[23:41] <pleia2> it's lovely
[23:41] <pleia2> but it is testing of XMir - so might want to be clear about that
[23:42] <pleia2> XMir != Mir :)
[23:42] <Unit193> Hah, only because Pasi made it to be. ;)   I thought that was pretty clear, but alrighty.  XMir uses Mir, sooo.
[23:42] <Unit193> But, sure.
[23:42] <knome> Unit193, yeah, i get that highlight too :)
[23:42] <Unit193> Figured you would.
[23:43] <pleia2> quick, stop talking about gnome with a k behind his bad!
[23:43] <pleia2> back too!
[23:43] <Unit193> But you wouldn't if I used your surname!  (Mainly because I would spell it very badly.)
[23:43] <pleia2> Unit193: pro tip: it's in his whois
[23:43] <Unit193> (And /who, ident)
[23:44] <pleia2> indeed
[23:44] <knome> lol ;)
[23:44] <knome> heh, actually i do have my surname on the highlight too
[23:45] <knome> maybe you should all try to spell it without looking at it
[23:45] <Unit193> s/Mir/XMir/ done.
[23:45] <knome> and i could add that to the hilight list too :P
[23:45] <Unit193> ohanillaL
[23:45] <pleia2> canonifolks tell me that mailing list archive queuerunner is going again, should take a few hours to get archives up to date again
[23:46] <pleia2> maybe by tomorrow we can tweet GridCube's ml post
[23:46] <knome> duh. :)
[23:46] <Unit193> GridCube: Thanks for posting!
[23:46] <knome> Unit193, i see what you did there!
[23:47] <Unit193> Hrm, I didn't make a note that it had to be on real hardware, and that virtual machines don't count...
[23:48] <knome> Unit193, you can still fix that.
[23:49] <Unit193> Hrm, wording, wording... After making public! :D
[23:51] <Unit193> I didn't indicate the use of DVDs, but people are smart enough to figure that out, right?  "...to add the ISO to grub.  However you do it, you can not use a virtual machine." ? :P
[23:51] <knome> they can just ask if they don't understand.