[00:14]  * ScottK didn't remove enough amarok binaries before.
[00:14] <ScottK> Done now.
[03:42] <smartboyhw> kubotu: newversion plasma-mediacenter 1.0.90
[03:48] <smartboyhw> Alright, where the hell is kubotu?
[03:56] <smartboyhw> Anyways, parallel doing 4.10.97 quantal and plasma-mediacenter 1.0.90
[04:02] <smartboyhw> Any packager: Is -dbg package necessary when there's a lot of debug-file-with-no-debug-symbols lintian warning appearing?
[04:25] <smartboyhw> Hmm, while backporting to 12.10 I spotted errors in okular
[04:26] <smartboyhw> debian/control line 26...
[04:26] <smartboyhw> What happened?
[05:19] <jussi> Morning all
[05:19] <jussi> when did my last nick quit?
[05:19] <TheDrums> 23:00:09 EDT
[05:20] <valorie> yep
[05:20] <jussi> ok, thanks... goes to look up what EDT  is :D
[05:20] <valorie> 2 hours ago
[05:20] <valorie> well, 2:20
[05:20] <jussi> ahh excellent, just what I hoped
[05:20] <TheDrums> date -ud "23:00:09 EDT"
[05:34] <smartboyhw> Uploading Quantal 4.10.97 to ~kubuntu-ppa/staging
[05:34] <smartboyhw> With SPEED:P
[05:47] <mitya57> hi, I started lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qt4.8.5
[05:47] <mitya57> if someone is interested in upgrading qt, please start with that branch
[05:48] <mitya57> (unless you are going to do a proper debian merge, which would be better)
[07:45] <smartboyhw> OH NO >>>>>>>>>>
[07:45] <smartboyhw> SYMBOLS AGAIN>>>>>>
[07:47] <yofel> for what?
[07:48] <yofel> good morning btw.
[07:53] <smartboyhw> yofel, 12.10
[07:53] <smartboyhw> kde4libs
[07:53] <smartboyhw> Good afternoon
[07:53] <yofel> ignoreit
[07:53] <smartboyhw> yofel, boing!?
[07:53] <smartboyhw> ignoreit?
[07:53] <yofel> you can't maintain symbol files for different gcc versions
[07:53] <yofel> also, the boost version etc. is different
[07:53] <smartboyhw> yofel, OK
[07:54] <smartboyhw> Waiting all to build then...\
[07:55] <smartboyhw> Good thing I can debsign *.dsc and dput ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging *.changes (LOL)\
[07:55] <smartboyhw> yofel, one thing
[07:55] <smartboyhw> Any packager: Is -dbg package necessary when there's a lot of debug-file-with-no-debug-symbols lintian warning appearing?
[07:56] <agateau> Quintasan: no I have a X1 carbon, but its keyboard is similar to other recent Lenovo laptops
[07:59] <yofel> smartboyhw: that's about something else http://lintian.debian.org/tags/debug-file-with-no-debug-symbols.html
[07:59] <smartboyhw> yofel, and I can't understand the page, sorry:p
[07:59] <smartboyhw> I did read it, but...
[08:00] <yofel> the packages split the debug information out of the binaries into a seperate file (to make them smaller), what that warning tells you is that the new seperate debug file doesn't actually appear to contain any debugging information
[08:00] <yofel> i.e. it's probably useless
[08:00] <yofel> I can't really say what's wrong (or if anything is wrong) without actually looking at such a file
[08:01] <smartboyhw> yofel, it's the new plasma-mediacenter
[08:01] <yofel> well, if you upload it somewhere I could try to build and look at it in the evening. Right now I'm at work and can't do packaging
[08:02] <smartboyhw> yofel, OK. I will upload to main PPA.
[08:02] <smartboyhw> Basically everything is OK except this strange lintian
[08:02] <smartboyhw> warning
[08:02] <smartboyhw> Not strange but
[08:02] <smartboyhw> No dbg symbols hmm
[08:05] <smartboyhw> Damn, my main PPA was oversized
[08:05] <smartboyhw> :O
[08:10] <smartboyhw> yofel, it's in https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/2buntu/+files/plasma-mediacenter_1.0.90-0ubuntu1.dsc
[08:11] <yofel> thanks
[08:18] <Quintasan> agateau: Ah I  see, well welcome to the club anyways. I would throw some bricks at whoever thought PrntScr button there is a good idea
[08:19] <agateau> Quintasan: :)
[08:19] <agateau> Quintasan: it is the reason $DEITY blessed us with Xmodmap :)
[08:20] <Quintasan> Totally.
[08:20] <Quintasan> Anyways, I'm KIND OF late for work
[08:36] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:40] <lordievader> Is it known that in the ppa:neon/kf5 the package project-neon5-kde-workspace failed to build? Wanted to try it out but the dependencies of project-neon5-session were unmet because of the build failure.
[08:44] <smartboyhw> lordievader, I think so...
[08:44] <yofel> lordievader: upstream is changing so much currently that it's pretty much a gamble whether the package builds or not
[08:46] <yofel> yeah, that's broken code
[08:49] <lordievader> Ok, well I'll check back later to see if there is a sucessfull build ;)
[08:56] <apachelogger> did someone just trigger workspace? Oo
[08:56] <yofel> did we both trigger it?
[08:56] <smartboyhw> oO
[08:57] <apachelogger> I am doing a raring rebuild, dunno what you are doing :P
[08:57] <yofel> I clicked on 'Build now', which triggered another one for raring it seems
[08:57] <smartboyhw> LOL
[09:02] <lordievader> Hehe
[09:06] <Riddell> smartboyhw: calligra is out, we should get a story onto kubuntu.org, have you checked the backports?
[09:07] <smartboyhw> Riddell, uh first thing: Please change my Planet KDE thing to smartboyhwubuntu.wordpress.org
[09:07] <smartboyhw> And let me check the backports
[09:07] <Riddell> nothing at smartboyhwubuntu.wordpress.org
[09:08] <smartboyhw> Riddell, damn it's .com
[09:08] <smartboyhw> And I think Quantal and Precise failed.
[09:08] <smartboyhw> Ah, libopencolorio-dev
[09:08] <smartboyhw> damn
[09:08]  * Riddell said something about quantal not being worth it
[09:09] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you did:P
[09:10] <smartboyhw> But Quantal's support period is longer than Raring, don't forget
[09:10] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I might give you a hackergotchi later;P
[09:10] <smartboyhw> What's the size requirement again?
[09:11] <yofel> support period isn't really about the backports though, precise is the first release where we decided to do some updates for CURRENT-2 because it's LTS
[09:11] <yofel> but sure, if you want to do packages for quantal, go ahead
[09:12] <Riddell> smartboyhw: planet updated, hackergotchi at 80x80 pixels a photo headshot on transparent background preferred
[09:12] <smartboyhw> Riddell, got it:)
[09:14] <smartboyhw> Riddell, oh wait
[09:17] <smartboyhw> Riddell, use http://smartboyhwubuntu.wordpress.com/category/planet-kde/feed/?mrss=off instead
[09:24] <Riddell> voila
[09:32] <smartboyhw> Ouch, my webcam doesn't work
[09:32] <smartboyhw> A blurry imag
[09:32] <smartboyhw> *image
[09:57] <xnox> Riddell: agateau: ubiquity fails adt tests in jenkins https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-adt-ubiquity/128/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console
[09:57]  * xnox ponders what did I do wrong....
[09:59] <xnox> Riddell: agateau: never mind.... jenkins is borked, testing 2.15.13 with 2.15.12 installed.
[09:59] <agateau> xnox: ok, no pb
[10:15] <smartboyhw> Riddell, uploaded ~ppa2 for quantal and precise, but plz expect quantal to build slower (since 4.10.97 is building)
[10:15] <smartboyhw> ~ppa2 = calligra 2.7.1
[10:16] <smartboyhw> Anyone interested in Python plz help with http://noskcaj10.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/announcing-the-testdrive-hackfest/
[10:17] <yofel> the builders don't have release-specific queues, so they'll build equally slow
[10:17] <smartboyhw> Yeah
[10:17] <smartboyhw> Eh, done anyway, what else TODO?
[10:21] <soee> riddle
[10:21] <smartboyhw> BTW, Riddell please tell me why Calligra is still stuck in -propoesd
[10:21] <smartboyhw> *-proposed
[10:22] <soee> yesterday for the first time my Kubuntu saucy stopped working :/ had to reboot as there was no response
[10:22] <soee> laso from time to time there is total plasma crash but this is related to latest KDE
[10:22] <smartboyhw> :O
[10:22] <smartboyhw> Hmm.......
[10:22] <smartboyhw> 4.10.97 should be more stable than 4.10.95.
[10:22] <soee> nope
[10:23] <soee> i woinder if this has anything to do with my wireless
[10:25] <smartboyhw> soee, wireless?
[10:25] <smartboyhw> That shouldn't cause a TOTAL plasma crash
[10:27] <debfx> smartboyhw: calligra (1:2.7.0-0ubuntu2 to 1:2.7.1-0ubuntu1) Depends: calligra poppler
[10:27] <smartboyhw> poppler?
[10:27] <debfx> yes
[10:29] <smartboyhw> Maybe it's stuck on the new poppler ver. in -proposed
[10:31] <smartboyhw> debfx, um can you try to explain to me how that happenes/
[10:32] <debfx> like you said, it built against the new poppler version in -proposed
[10:33] <smartboyhw> And it was fried. Hmm
[10:36] <soee> smartboyhw, more specific - maybe networkmanager
[10:36] <smartboyhw> networkmanager?!
[10:36] <smartboyhw> oops
[10:36] <smartboyhw> Really?
[10:41] <smartboyhw> debfx, what can I do to solve that problem then?
[10:41] <debfx> smartboyhw: find out why poppler doesn't migrate :)
[10:42] <debfx> some packages probably need to be rebuilt
[10:42] <smartboyhw> debfx, ouch
[10:42] <smartboyhw> debfx, well at least poppler builts perfectly on all arch
[10:42] <smartboyhw> Where do you get that calligra (1:2.7.0-0ubuntu2 to 1:2.7.1-0ubuntu1) Depends: calligra poppler BTW?
[10:43] <smartboyhw> debfx, got it. poppler new binary
[10:43] <smartboyhw> NEW 
[10:43] <smartboyhw> OUCH
[10:46] <Quintasan> Well, almost 8 millions
[10:46] <smartboyhw> Quintasan, ?
[10:46] <Quintasan> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[10:47] <Quintasan> I estimate that things will die off at $20M
[10:48] <smartboyhw> Quintasan, +1
[11:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:34] <smartboyhw> Hmm, somebody give me proper explanations of why https://launchpadlibrarian.net/146474240/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.calligra_1%3A2.7.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz will happen in quantal ...
[12:35] <smartboyhw> Not even made...
[12:35] <smartboyhw> Maybe because of no opencolorio?
[12:35] <smartboyhw> And no vc?
[12:36] <smartboyhw> Ah, yes, opencolorio
[12:39] <smartboyhw> Hmm, either I'm stupid, or I just can't find that .so file.
[12:40] <yofel> well, it's not built without opencolorio
[12:40] <yofel> krita/plugins/extensions/dockers/CMakeLists.txt:
[12:40] <yofel> if(HAVE_OCIO AND HAVE_GLEW)
[12:40] <yofel>     add_subdirectory(lut)
[12:40] <smartboyhw> yofel, hmm?
[12:41] <smartboyhw> I mean, in quantal
[12:41] <yofel> what so file do you mean?
[12:41] <smartboyhw> yofel, kritalutdocker.so
[12:41] <yofel> well, it wasn't built, so how can it be there?
[12:41] <smartboyhw> Can't exist WITHOUT using libopencolorio
[12:41] <yofel> or do you mean the archive package?
[12:42] <smartboyhw> yofel, quantal buildlog see above
[12:42] <yofel> yes, the file is not there because you built without opencolorio
[12:43] <yofel> easiest fix would probably be to just backport opencolorio
[12:43] <smartboyhw> yofel, no I mean it doesn't exist in .install files
[12:43] <yofel> oh
[12:43]  * yofel looks again
[12:45] <yofel> smartboyhw: uh, that's some "fun" architecture-specific stuff in debian/rules
[12:46] <yofel> probably because of glew
[12:51] <smartboyhw> yofel, meh meh meh
[12:55] <yofel> well, it kind of makes sense
[12:55] <yofel> the alternative would be to maintain install files for specific architectures
[12:56] <yofel> a few lines in rules are less maintenance work
[12:56] <smartboyhw> yofel, HOWTO fix?:P
[12:57] <yofel> backport opencolorio if possible, otherwise delete the stuff from rules
[12:57] <yofel> (latter is more work later on, unless we find a good way to make backport hooks for non-kdesc packages)
[13:01] <smartboyhw> yofel, backport opencolorio then
[13:03] <smartboyhw> DAMN
[13:04] <smartboyhw> I filled in everyrhing precise, but filled in the series quantal...
[13:04] <smartboyhw> HELP
[13:04] <yofel> heh
[13:04] <smartboyhw> DELEETTEETETE
[13:16] <ScottK> smartboyhw: Did you see amarok migrated?
[13:16] <ScottK> Forcing is almost never the right answer.  It's better to figure out why it didn't migrate.
[13:19] <smartboyhw> ScottK, no I didn't;P
[13:19] <smartboyhw> Oh you mean Amarok then yes
[13:19] <ScottK> It did.
[13:19] <smartboyhw> ScottK, what's the reason BTW?
[13:19] <ScottK> The old armhf binaries were blocking.
[13:19] <ScottK> When I removed the amarok binary, I forgot amarok-dbg and amarok-utils.
[13:19] <smartboyhw> ScottK, AH AH AH
[13:20] <smartboyhw> GOt it
[13:20] <ScottK> Did anyone merger your kubuntu-defaults change?
[13:20] <ScottK> I can do it today.
[13:22] <smartboyhw> ScottK, dunnop
[13:23] <ScottK> Nope.  Will do it.
[13:24] <smartboyhw> I don't think so
[13:24] <smartboyhw> ScottK, and plz plz approve my ibus-cangjie SRU
[13:24] <smartboyhw> ScottK, :)
[13:24] <ScottK> I can probably do that later today.
[13:25] <smartboyhw> Hmm, sounded like I need to backport libsoprano-dev
[13:25] <smartboyhw> for 4.10.97
[13:27] <smartboyhw> Done
[13:27] <smartboyhw> I clearly broke my PPA upload record
[13:30] <smartboyhw> daily:p
[13:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: you know you've made it when your project is on phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQyNTc
[14:26] <smartboyhw> AHHHHHHHH
[14:26] <Riddell> OH?
[14:26] <tsdgeos> lol
[14:26] <smartboyhw> Even opencolorio has missing dependencies in Precis
[14:26] <smartboyhw> *Precise
[14:26] <tsdgeos> digikam-dbg is 131MB?
[14:26] <smartboyhw> HELL
[14:26] <tsdgeos> *huge*
[14:26] <smartboyhw> tsdgeos, +1
[14:27] <Riddell> I just dropped opencolorio from precise backport
[14:27] <smartboyhw> Riddell, .......
[14:28] <smartboyhw> Hmm, that's a problem
[14:29] <smartboyhw> Now I really have to touch debian/rules for calligra backport
[14:31] <Riddell> why?
[14:32] <ScottK> tsdgeos: It's not just Digikam anymore remember.  It's the "Digikam Software Collection".  Of course it's huge.
[14:32] <ScottK> ;-)
[15:04] <smartboyhw> Riddell, apachelogger look at my latest reply
[15:07] <ScottK> smartboyhw: Did you fill out your application?
[15:07] <smartboyhw> ScottK, yeah, it's in the original email
[15:07] <smartboyhw> .....
[15:08] <smartboyhw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams
[15:08] <smartboyhw> Does anybody object to change Kubuntu Team's "Leader" from Riddell only to Kubuntu Council?
[15:09] <ScottK> No.  That's what it should be.
[15:10] <smartboyhw> ScottK, DONE.
[15:10] <ScottK> OK.
[15:11] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I've never claimed to be a leader despite many people's trying it
[15:11] <smartboyhw> Riddell, many people = ?:P
[15:13] <Riddell> holy guacamole, 19 people given us £242
[15:13] <smartboyhw> Riddell, \o/
[15:13] <smartboyhw> That's a real lot
[15:13] <Riddell> we'll have to think of something to spend it on
[15:14] <smartboyhw> v
[15:14] <smartboyhw> The $775 #UbuntuEdge  perks are sold out.  If you missed out, you can still get one for $780, just $5 more, and there are 4500 available at that price!
[15:14] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[15:14] <smartboyhw> ooh
[15:15] <yofel> I'm clueless how they want to gather 24M in 20 days though
[15:16] <smartboyhw> yofel, yeah
[15:16] <smartboyhw> The problem: The hype has died down.
[15:18] <yofel> not sure if it has. It's just that everyone that really wanted to spend the money already did it. (or missed the cheaper perks)
[15:19] <yofel> and those that think about taking the expensive perks have 20 days left to think about it
[15:20] <smartboyhw> yofel, +1
[15:31]  * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/08/02/thanks
[15:51] <smartboyhw> Guys, I'm going to sleep. Please give support at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/smartboyhw/KubuntuDeveloperApplication
[15:51] <smartboyhw> Good night.
[16:20] <Riddell> right I'm away on holiday for the next week
[16:21] <Riddell> should be around occationally but not much
[16:21] <Riddell> good luck!
[16:41] <tester56> Riddell, have fun!
[19:08] <yofel> oh great, kdepim-runtime build-depends on libkgapi-dev which depends on libgkapi0 which depends on kdepim-runtime
[19:08] <yofel> That won't quite work for precise :S
[19:09]  * yofel makes that a recommends
[19:12] <yofel> hm, ancient kgapi version too
[19:15] <yofel> CMake Error: INSTALL(EXPORT "kgapiLibraryTargets" ...) includes target "kgapi" which requires target "kgapi2" that is not in the export set.
[19:15] <yofel> er what o.O?
[19:42] <soee> yyyy
[19:42] <yofel> no ^^
[19:42] <soee> grub shows me 3 or 4 times the sam entry ..
[19:42] <soee> same kernel version 
[19:43] <soee> kinda strange as im on raring not saucy
[19:43] <yofel> what does grub.cfg say?
[19:45] <soee> one second, Riddell you know i like you guys :D so i send a small donation to -.-
[19:46] <yofel> \o/
[19:47] <soee> yofel, i have 340 lines in grub.cfg what should i look for ?
[19:48] <yofel> identical "menuentry" lines
[19:50] <soee> nope here i dont see duplicates
[19:50] <yofel> hm, then grub shouldn't show any either... Do you have multiple OS installed that use the same MBR? Maybe a different grub.cfg is actually used?
[19:51] <soee> um windows vista + kubuntu
[19:52] <yofel> really weird then...
[19:53] <soee> ok i installed lates update, ill try later to reboot and see what grub will show
[20:54] <Quintasan> \o
[20:57] <jalcine> o/