| GiGaHuRtZ | weird, the launchpad says its called homerun, but if I search for it in cache, there is a package, just called something else, ie plasma-widget-homerun or whatever | 00:00 |
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| GiGaHuRtZ | version is correct though, oh well. | 00:01 |
| alfonsojon | Does anyone know the difference between screenie and kazam? | 00:02 |
| alfonsojon | I'm not sure which is better | 00:02 |
| alfonsojon | screenie is QT-based, but Kazam may have more features (Not sure) | 00:02 |
| alfonsojon | I currently use kazam | 00:02 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | hmm, homerun reminds me a little of the qml app launcher | 00:03 |
| alfonsojon | Oh, nevermind | 00:05 |
| alfonsojon | The beta PPA does have packages | 00:06 |
| alfonsojon | It's just versioned as 4.10.90 | 00:06 |
| alfonsojon | (not 4.11) | 00:06 |
| bootkiller | it's how they number beta versions. | 00:07 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | valorie: thx again for reminding about the meta package, even though the log showed 4 packages removed, it apparently removed a bunch more before I could kill the process | 00:07 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | alfonsojon: right | 00:07 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | its what Im using | 00:07 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | .95 | 00:07 |
| alfonsojon | ah | 00:07 |
| alfonsojon | do you get lag when saving files with kdialog? | 00:07 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | no | 00:07 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | why would i? | 00:07 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | unless you were saving to a network share, or a drive thats really slow for some odd reason | 00:08 |
| alfonsojon | I don't know, I got horrid lag in 13.04 | 00:08 |
| alfonsojon | 13.10* | 00:08 |
| alfonsojon | with KDE 4.11 | 00:08 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | i doubt thats a kde problem | 00:08 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | it was probably some other issue going on | 00:08 |
| alfonsojon | kdialog was taking forever to open and I wasn't really sure why | 00:08 |
| alfonsojon | I downgraded to 13.04 and now it's good | 00:08 |
| alfonsojon | so if things go wonky, I can always ppa-purge it | 00:09 |
| alfonsojon | :) | 00:09 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I tried 13.10 for a couple days, didnt have any issues such as that | 00:09 |
| alfonsojon | 13.10 literally seems like 13.04 but improved | 00:09 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | but it was a little unstable in general | 00:09 |
| alfonsojon | just a lot smoother | 00:09 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I dont have speed issues, donno | 00:09 |
| alfonsojon | that's what I like about kubuntu | 00:09 |
| alfonsojon | Every release is just about the same, BUT. | 00:09 |
| alfonsojon | It's constantly improving without some "radical redesign" | 00:09 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | And im on a 5 ytear old laptop, but with 8GB of ram | 00:09 |
| alfonsojon | KDE 3.0 users (should) feel at home in KDE 4.0 | 00:09 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | lol, they didnt originally | 00:10 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | At all | 00:10 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | lmao | 00:10 |
| alfonsojon | I know | 00:10 |
| alfonsojon | but the general layout is the same | 00:10 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Hence why they made KDE 3.5 | 00:10 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Just liek they are doing with KDE 4.11 | 00:10 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | 4.11 will be the feature freeze for KDE4 | 00:10 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | And from here on out, bug fixes and siuch only | 00:10 |
| alfonsojon | Oh really? | 00:11 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | So when they come out with KDE5, people can use KDE4.11 for stability | 00:11 |
| alfonsojon | ah | 00:11 |
| alfonsojon | Gotta love KDE | 00:11 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Ya, its how they did it with KDE4 also, with 3.5 being the stable branch | 00:11 |
| alfonsojon | I've always been a Unity/Gnome Fallback user | 00:11 |
| alfonsojon | I've been using Ubuntu since 9.04 | 00:11 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I've only really been using KDE4 for like a month | 00:11 |
| alfonsojon | I switched to KDE recently, and wow | 00:11 |
| alfonsojon | I don't think I can ever go back | 00:12 |
| alfonsojon | People call it bloated but it's so much smoother than Unity | 00:12 |
| alfonsojon | and it's a lot more customizable. | 00:12 |
| alfonsojon | I can have wobbly windows and the desktop cube easily | 00:12 |
| alfonsojon | on my entry level GPU from 2009 | 00:12 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I used kde3.5, then gnome2, then xfce, then gnome3 (i hate unity), then mate, and now kde4, and its by far the best desktop experience I have ever had with linux in over 13 years | 00:13 |
| alfonsojon | and still get 30 FPS in Minecraft | 00:13 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | eh, ya compiz doesnt take much for a gpu | 00:13 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I was running compiz on intel gfx in 2007 | 00:13 |
| alfonsojon | Also, have you tried Wayland? | 00:13 |
| alfonsojon | oh boy | 00:13 |
| alfonsojon | xD | 00:13 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I have, barely | 00:13 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | It renders the windows much smoother | 00:13 |
| alfonsojon | is it in a usable state? | 00:13 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Like moving windows for example | 00:13 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | No idea | 00:13 |
| alfonsojon | Alright | 00:14 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Its usable, but I dont think any window managers fullly support it yet, donno | 00:14 |
| alfonsojon | The noveau drivers work beautifully with my GPU, so I think I can ditch proprietary drivers to grab X11 | 00:14 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I had some things like xterm and such working, that was it, heh | 00:14 |
| alfonsojon | Kwin in 4.11 adds just-about-complete support for Wayland | 00:14 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | Yup | 00:14 |
| wxl | here you guys are talking about games and i read wayward and not wayland | 00:14 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | 13.10 wont be going to mir | 00:15 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | games? | 00:15 |
| wxl | well, minecraft at least :) | 00:15 |
| bootkiller | partial, it only runs on xwayland for now... | 00:15 |
| * GiGaHuRtZ doesnt really play games :-/ | 00:15 | |
| GiGaHuRtZ | og | 00:15 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | oh | 00:15 |
| wxl | i don't play games much btu i do love me some nethack | 00:15 |
| alfonsojon | lol | 00:16 |
| alfonsojon | If I'm not mistaken | 00:16 |
| alfonsojon | XWayland is just the X11 server running as a Wayland extension, right? | 00:16 |
| bootkiller | yes, but still isn't native wayland | 00:17 |
| alfonsojon | is it faster than normal Xorg at least? | 00:17 |
| bootkiller | haven't seen comparisons so far | 00:18 |
| alfonsojon | alrighty then. | 00:18 |
| alfonsojon | how does one install wayland? | 00:19 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | it feels faster imho | 00:19 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | alfonsojon: just google dude | 00:19 |
| alfonsojon | good idea | 00:19 |
| alfonsojon | xD | 00:19 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | anyone here familiar with cifs/smbfs automounting with fstab? | 00:25 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | The reason I ask is, the share I use is not protected by username/passwd at all (its running of embedded linux router like a nas with no permissions) | 00:26 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | I didnt put the password field in the fstab, only a user (i was thinking that was required but cannot) remember, and when doing a mount -a, it asked for a password | 00:27 |
| IdleOne | Why don't you try googling it? | 00:30 |
| alfonsojon | Is there a way to apply the blur effect to the transparency effect? | 00:32 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | IdleOne: I figured it out on my own, I had just never seen the password prompt like that | 00:35 |
| GiGaHuRtZ | alfonsojon: heh, did you comment on ubuntuupdates.org by chance? I just loaded that site, and I looked in the righthand bar, and under recent comments is someone with your name, heh | 00:36 |
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| DarkSim_ | Heh, I have mighty amount of issues with Kubuntu right now lol | 01:12 |
| DarkSim_ | I will get into detail in a while though | 01:12 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:36 |
| MarkusS | anyone knows what happend to kdenlive? and kdenlive.org? | 08:51 |
| MarkusS | down for a while and some filters stopped working for me | 08:51 |
| smartboyhw | MarkusS, go to #kdenlive might be a better idea. | 08:53 |
| valorie | MarkusS: they devels are working on moving the site to kde infra | 08:53 |
| valorie | the, I mean | 08:53 |
| valorie | I'm sure it will redirect once it's all done | 08:53 |
| valorie | but smartboyhw is right | 08:54 |
| MarkusS | k thx | 08:54 |
| alebaby | hola | 09:28 |
| alebaby | buenas noches | 09:29 |
| lordievader | Hey alebaby | 09:29 |
| alebaby | you read spanish ? | 09:30 |
| lordievader | !spanish | alebaby | 09:30 |
| ubottu | alebaby: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 09:30 |
| alebaby | good no matter | 09:31 |
| alebaby | good night lordievader ;) | 09:31 |
| alebaby | I'm glad you found | 09:32 |
| alebaby | I have a serious problem | 09:32 |
| lordievader | What problem are you facing? | 09:32 |
| alebaby | my problem is that I can not install any kubuntu in netbook and notebook | 09:33 |
| alebaby | and the truth and not to do :( | 09:33 |
| lordievader | Why not? Are you getting errors? | 09:33 |
| alebaby | look lets you tell | 09:34 |
| alebaby | install kubuntu 12.04.2 a Mexican brand lanix | 09:35 |
| alebaby | and it turns out that the version of Kubuntu 12.04.1 wifi works really well | 09:35 |
| alebaby | but when I update and installed the version 12.04.2 wifi stops working completely | 09:36 |
| alebaby | but now I do the same with a acer and it turns out the graphics card fails and will not let me install any driver | 09:37 |
| lordievader | alebaby: Have you tried the jockey (jockey-kde or jockey-text), you might need a closed source driver. | 09:37 |
| alebaby | for they are all intel | 09:38 |
| alebaby | That has something to do? | 09:39 |
| lordievader | Hmm that should just work out of the box. Is there a specific reason for installing Precise? Else you could try Raring (13.04). | 09:39 |
| alebaby | with that I can not watch video on youtube or videos inside the pc | 09:40 |
| alebaby | I'll tell you | 09:40 |
| alebaby | I try to, kubuntu 11.10, 12.04.1, 12.04.2, 13.04 just need to try kubuntu 12.10 | 09:41 |
| alebaby | and then if you try with this version and does not work and not to do u.u | 09:43 |
| lordievader | alebaby: Have you installed flash? (Might explain why you cannot watch videos on Youtube) | 09:44 |
| alebaby | yes | 09:44 |
| alebaby | if you installed the flash and not get stuck | 09:44 |
| alebaby | but all that I'm mentioned, only about netbook and notebook computers | 09:48 |
| alebaby | with laptops, the whole system works perfectly | 09:49 |
| alebaby | thanks lordievader I'll take care of yourself and thanks | 09:55 |
| alebaby | bye | 09:55 |
| vadrao | Any nice application to help me concentrate (pomodoro technique) for KDE? | 10:21 |
| izanagi | hello, can i ask a question? | 11:07 |
| izanagi | when i was using 12.04 i was able to turn of my wifi card using FN+F2. In 13.04(clean install) this key combination works, but turns off wifi only by software means. Is there a solution? | 11:09 |
| vadrao | izanagi: I am not sure if this could be a proper solution. But I suggest messingt with System Settings> Shortcuts and Gestures | 11:18 |
| izanagi | issue is present in ubuntu and kubuntu. I dont think these setting will help, but anything is worth trying | 11:19 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:46 |
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| Captain_Proton | ? I am looking to replace win8 on my desktop. The question I have is, it has a Radeon HD 7570 in the pass ati drivers sucked is that still the case? I know with Steam and Canical putting presser on them to fix thier driver or they any better? I looking to play StarCraft 2 and vendatta online by star citizen when it is released | 12:32 |
| ss_haze | Captain_Proton, first, it's easy to set Ubuntu in dual boot, so you can still do windows stuff (I don't) | 12:44 |
| Captain_Proton | ss_haze: I know but yuk Windows lol | 12:45 |
| Captain_Proton | i know vendatta is linux native and star craft 2 runs fine in wine in the pass I had nvidia card their card work OK in linux. ati not so much, I was wondering if their better now | 12:47 |
| izanagi | when i was using 12.04 i was able to turn of my wifi card using FN+F2. In 13.04(clean install) this key combination works, but turns off wifi only by software means. Is there a solution? Maybe i should revert to kernel used in 12.04? | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | nvidia has better support in linux than ati , but that depends on the ati card some are very good , other snot so good | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | Captain_Proton,^ | 13:03 |
| izanagi | yea, ati is pain in the ass | 13:07 |
| Pici | The fglrx-legacy drivers that can be found in a PPA have worked well for me. | 13:07 |
| izanagi | they work, but are not ideal when it comes to full hd movies or hdmi | 13:08 |
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| izanagi | when i was using 12.04 i was able to turn of my wifi card using FN+F2. In 13.04(clean install) this key combination works, but turns off wifi only by software means. Is there a solution? Maybe i should revert to kernel used in 12.04? | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | reverting the kernel is not good policy , it may affect other kernel modules negatively , izanagi , unfortunately i haven't got any suggestions for a fix | 14:40 |
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| Archon__ | Hi. Does the Kubuntu live CD include the java browser plugin? | 16:36 |
| BluesKaj | Archon__, afaik , yes | 16:38 |
| OerHeks | BluesKaj, i am not sure, openJDK comes with restricted extra's ?? | 16:57 |
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| fuke | hi | 17:59 |
| monkeyjuice | low | 18:00 |
| fuke | hello | 18:00 |
| monkeyjuice | Jello | 18:00 |
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| FloodBotK1 | !netsplit | 19:20 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 19:20 |
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| nescius | hello | 23:02 |
| nescius | I have plenty of errors with apt-get and missing links to stuff like changelog.Debian.gz while updating packages, did anyone have same? | 23:03 |
| valorie | nescius: do you think the errors are at your end, or Debian's end? | 23:04 |
| nescius | valorie, those are packages from almost unmodified instalation of raring kubuntu x86_64 | 23:05 |
| valorie | you might post your errors to a pastebin | 23:05 |
| nescius | for example libkactivities6 4:4.10.3-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu13.04 | 23:05 |
| valorie | hard to discuss 'errors' without know what they are | 23:06 |
| nescius | valorie: locale is wrong.. | 23:06 |
| nescius | i will do so, but have to google a bit later tomorrow.. but thanks anyway | 23:06 |
| gustavo_brazil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6drk48mOig&feature=youtu.be | 23:07 |
| gustavo_brazil | this is a great distro | 23:07 |
| nescius | gustavo_brazil: this is kubuntu | 23:07 |
| gustavo_brazil | nescius: ¬_¬ | 23:08 |
| nescius | so please go advertise somewhere not here ;) | 23:08 |
| gustavo_brazil | nescius: I tell you the same :) | 23:09 |
| nescius | here is a log from my apt problem http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GEXcpj0J | 23:18 |
| nescius | basicaly link of one file in a package marked for upgrade links to nowhere | 23:19 |
| nescius | this results in error and so the package is never upgraded. this is happening often (I had at least 4 such cases before - solution was to delete the link and create a new empty file in its place) | 23:20 |
| nescius | i am merely wondering if you had such experiences, is this bad packaging? I was trying to use muon for most of the work, but it is only a frontend for apt right? | 23:22 |
| valorie | someone recently had a similar problem on the kubuntu list | 23:22 |
| valorie | it could be a packaging error | 23:23 |
| valorie | I guess writing to the list is the only way to be sure | 23:23 |
| valorie | or filing a bug report | 23:24 |
| nescius | thanks, i will check the package and who did this version of the package and send them a polite mail | 23:24 |
| nescius | tomorrow | 23:24 |
| nescius | good nigth | 23:24 |
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